ok often everybody seems to accept only the "true" noisecore which comes from a metal/drunk-as-fuck/kvlt background, that is units with influences a la AC, 7mon etc, and thats fine, no problem. noisecore = bursts of lo-fi explosions, fuck you attitude, "rock" band instrumentation (drums, guitars, bass, screaming)... no problem.
but at least here in finland, for years already and right under everybody's noses, there are a few extremely violent sounding units that make very explosive anti-music outside the "metal" background
from a violent free jazz angle:
Hetero Skeleton
Killer Mc Hann
Mohel
and what about Kuolema? from a HC angle, and pretty fuken down-to-the point...
i dont know, man.... in my universe there are plenty of parameters which are similar in these units and the "old-skool", and i can dig that. just sayin... check it out, specially recommend killer mc hann 7"
You probably intentionally forgot Anal Barbara and Funeral Mongoloids?
Quote from: pentd on February 21, 2011, 01:02:52 PMHetero Skeleton
Killer Mc Hann
Mohel
If you take this direction, the new tape by Paanin Kuoro may interest you. Lots of noisecore-kind of bursts in "free jazz". B-side is more conventional stuff, though.
Quoteand what about Kuolema? from a HC angle, and pretty fuken down-to-the point...
Hardly noisecore at all. Take a listen to some of their recent vinyls - tight, ultrafast finnish hardcore. I guess Siviilimurha on the split w/ Agathocles is closer to what could be finnish hardcore/noisecore -mix.
Quote from: pentd on February 21, 2011, 01:02:52 PM
Hetero Skeleton
Killer Mc Hann
Mohel
Hetero Skeleton / Killer McHannn could maybe qualify as free-jazz-noisecore but Mohel? At least the LP (which is excellent by the way) is pretty "normal" free jazz to my ears.
Also, it's maybe meaningful to note that all those projects are composed of the same group of guys (give or take a couple). So it's not really a "scene" as such.
i didnt forget anyone cos FM and AB are already known of + talked about here... sure they should be on the same list
well... i dont see things so pidgeonholed... never really did and couldnt care less... i see violence in many types of music, so thats why i thought about... hmmm, whatever
also there are the same few people doing tons of different bands/projects anyway in all these other subgenres, so whats the argument?
narrow subgenre hygiene... i still dont get it.
what i get though is many forms of overdrive energy + de/constructive music annihilation.
I agree with pidgeonholing & subgenre hygiene. And you're obviously right about few people doing many things everywhere. I just wanted to point out the fact in this case, that's all.
Anyway, are you familiar with Ascension (S. Jaworzyn + T. Irving)? Guitar/drums violent overload, sort-of from free jazz perspective but the result is total pummeling mayhem. Highly recommended.
Admittedly I never heard any of the bands mentioned so far in the thread, but the term "Finnish noisecore" brings back hazy memories from the 80's... when there was a wave of loud, hard, noisy Finnish rock/punk bands such as Radiopuhelimet, Faff Bey, Psychoplasma, Electric Blue Peggy Sue and the Revolutionions From Mars, and perhaps even on a tangent, the greatest Finnish band ever, Mana Mana. Weren't they also lumped together as "noisecore" or something similar, or is my memory playing tricks again?
KOHINA must have been very first Finnish noisecore act late 80s early 90s? I belive they didnt released officially anything? stuff spreaded throught tape trading (anyone old enough to remember tape trading heh)
Isi, what is tape trading?
I recall talking with mr. Itkonen who was in Kohina, and he was talking about bands like GORE ANGEL or such, which were Finnish noisecore, and influence for Kohina. I would guess those tapes are long ago disappeared in void of punk/metal tape trades.. Itkonen mentioned he dubbed over some better punk/hc in lack of tapes!
Quote from: post-morten on February 22, 2011, 10:42:11 PM
Admittedly I never heard any of the bands mentioned so far in the thread, but the term "Finnish noisecore" brings back hazy memories from the 80's... when there was a wave of loud, hard, noisy Finnish rock/punk bands such as Radiopuhelimet, Faff Bey, Psychoplasma, Electric Blue Peggy Sue and the Revolutionions From Mars, and perhaps even on a tangent, the greatest Finnish band ever, Mana Mana. Weren't they also lumped together as "noisecore" or something similar, or is my memory playing tricks again?
I would guess, these could, theoretically at least, be lumped into "noiserock", which is perhaps even more vague term than noisecore. But I have never heard bands like Mana Mana being labeled as "noisecore". Faff Bey being thrash metal, Radiopuhelimet being distorted energy fueled punk rock, Mana Mana being legends of melancholic emotional rock, sometimes almost stereotype to certain things in Finnish radio-metal.
I know Pentd was looking for the less punk/metal bankground stuff, but if talking of "real noise" in finland, I guess list of bands that existed, could be useful as reference:
bands with some sort of proper releases that circulated internationally:
Anal Barbara
ANH
Arse
Arseslaughter
Aunt Mary
Beip
Earslaughter
Futile Existence
Funeral Mongoloids
K.L.V. (early nc, later goth)
Kohina
Nihilist Commando
Noise Waste
Meat Means Murder
S.E.X.
Siviivimurha (some stuff, mostly chaotic hc)
Yesmeansyes
lesser known, but still relevant (? ahaha) at least in Finland?
NNNC, Vapaamelusaaste, Varikset, Total Denial, Gore Angel, Total Noise Pollution, Riivattu Uloste, Ruumiin Munat, Kalju Pillu, Phrenetic Noise, Rotten Bowel, Peaceful Threat, Bampi Polo, Homofobia, Tuho, Dicktator, Sore Anus/ Sore Arse, etc etc.. Mosts did releases, some even several.
Majority os the bands would be side projects of members known from other bands. NNNC from whatever mikkeli punx it was? Vapaamelusaaste with Silakka etc from whatever punk band he had in Mikkeli back then? Varikset with Nallekerho veikki. Ruumiin Munat and Kalju Pillu with semi-legendary kaapo (r.i.p.) as vocalist of Korruptio. Bampi Polo with guitarist of Katastrofialue. Homophobia with mr. Brown and some Naantali/Turku crust band members. Tuho with mr. Haare. Sore Anus or/and Sore Arse with drummer of Kirous and Kyklooppien Sukupuutto.
You could say something like Goat Vulva with mr. Holocausto of Beherit falls into this category. Member of Monkey Mush (swe) was finn, and lives now in Lahti since many years. Also members of Impaled Nazarene has their... was it Anus Cunt? Guess what kind of stuff? Some of the bands had still more side projects, like Yesmeansyes would play few Noise Of The Rose gigs, as tributes to Seven Minutes of Nause. Even being total cover-song/copycat, those live recordings are good. Unfortunately never really released.
Lets say 1992-1995 was probably the "golden years" of Finnish noisecore. In those time when finnish punk/indie on uprise, it was no miracle seeing punk shows with noisecore bands play, and perhaps this cross-over gigs resulted that even bands such as Tehosekoitin played few noisecore tracks in one comp CD, heh! Perhaps part of forgotten history...
One of the best qualities of noisecore is, that it is so meaningless, so stupid and so talentless - at least in theory - that nobody gives a fuck. There's always faster bands who simply play death metal or black metal. There are short explosive and aggressive tracks in hc, grind, etc. When you look for noisy stuff, the noisE is available there. Noisecore is like the deformed fetus that's hoped to be forgotten. Clumsy, pointless, preferably dead. Long live noisecore!
Ha! I remember when in the early 90s a couple of Finnish noiscore 7"s had crept their way into a few swedish HC/punk-distros, Aunt Mary + some more. The reactions were along the lines of "ok, 600 songs on one 7", sounds like fun? no, it sounds like shit!"...!
When I think of Swedish noisecore, I can't remember much more than... Nojs Bojs, Arsedestroyer,...? Monkey Mush and related of course, but I guess were by finns living in sweden?
Lots of good early punk/hc, lots of early good death and black metal. Lots of action rock. etc.. noisecore? Norway the same. I can't remember anyone else by Lasse Marhaug's connection?
There was some talk after the Pori gig (BU/SS/Grunt) about organizing a noisecore night in the same gallery at some point. Any news on this? Would be great because there's not too many pure noisecore gigs around.
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on February 24, 2011, 09:01:27 AM
I would guess, these could, theoretically at least, be lumped into "noiserock", which is perhaps even more vague term than noisecore. But I have never heard bands like Mana Mana being labeled as "noisecore". Faff Bey being thrash metal, Radiopuhelimet being distorted energy fueled punk rock, Mana Mana being legends of melancholic emotional rock, sometimes almost stereotype to certain things in Finnish radio-metal.
"Noiserock" is probably what I was thinking of. There was this Swedish indie-music magazine Sound Affects that devoted a page in every issue to Finnish music, and they wrote about these sorts of bands. I remember they also called it "sågverksrock", hehe. Then after reading about it, I went down to Radioshopen (legendary Finnish music store in Stockholm's Old Town) and bought the albums that seemed cool, from labels like Bad Vugum and Gaga Goodies.
Quote from: Antti O. on February 24, 2011, 06:57:27 PM
There was some talk after the Pori gig (BU/SS/Grunt) about organizing a noisecore night in the same gallery at some point. Any news on this? Would be great because there's not too many pure noisecore gigs around.
There hasn't been any development with that idea... yet. There'll be one semi private gig soon(ish) in Galleria 3H+K and after that I might not be organizing anymore gigs there, hehe.
But hopefully the noisecore evening will happen in Pori sometime in future, maybe in summer, maybe when Pori Jazz is organized, it might get some artsy jazz fans there, too, hah.
goddamn axpa, how the fuk can you remember all those bands... uncredible
www.cfprod.com/noisecore
I don't currently have ftp to access to files, nor any system to update it, but looking for some easier and faster way to do it eventually... So not even Finnish part is up-to-date or with all bands. I did this after I heard Terrorizer magazine started to call bands like Dillinger Escape Plan "noisecore", and thought fuck the mathcore and techno subgenres. "noisecore" has been associated with certain qualities since.. I mean 80's? If it first covered some Lärm, Disorder type stuff, soon it was accepted for AC, 7MON, old Sore Throat, old Meat Shits and stuff like that. No need for some journalists to try to hijack it for some new purposes.. With probably few hundreds bands actively putting out shit, I guess genre would be pretty firmly established.
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on February 24, 2011, 09:27:26 AM
Tuho with mr. Haare
Tuho is a slightly more recent thing. Back in the 90's, my noisecore band was called "Anti-Laituri" :lol:
edit: come to think of it, this was in the late 80´s.
Does playing discernable riffs automatically exclude you from the noisecore realms?
burial
Quote from: halthan on February 25, 2011, 02:34:03 PM
burial
Saw you guys at "Sarvikuonorock" in Lieto 1989...! I was there with Vapaa ajatus, I was the 2nd vocalist back then. Age 15. :-)
Quote from: Haare on February 25, 2011, 03:53:51 PM
Quote from: halthan on February 25, 2011, 02:34:03 PM
burial
Saw you guys at "Sarvikuonorock" in Lieto 1989...! I was there with Vapaa ajatus, I was the 2nd vocalist back then. Age 15. :-)
hilarious times
Lärm is amazing... still kicks my nuts today
but back on topic.
Aunt Mary's pingpong 7" is, coincidentially, one of my favorite finnish vinyls ever. later i was quite fukin surprised when i figured out who was behind it. but that 7" is one that i always picked up if i ever saw it somewhere 2nd hand. i counted that i have traded/sent out/just given as a gift at least 7 copies throughout the years of that to friends around the world... and to my total surprise i found yet another copy in my messed-up "distro" boxes... so that's #8 ha ha... hate to admit, but that new 7" isnt really my cup of tea. (oh man that was diplomatic...) "the first demo was the only good one"
overdrive insanity?!?! i still say: find that killer mc hann 7" !! its supreme.
Quote from: pestdemon on February 25, 2011, 12:24:09 PM
Does playing discernable riffs automatically exclude you from the noisecore realms?
i guess it's about how "purist" one want's to be about it, heh. where is the line that separates noisecore from some kinda sloppy grind or what ever...?? gotta agree with pd about "narrow sub-genre hygiene". thinking about bands like ARSEDESTROYER: some recognisable riffs here and there, still mostly fitting the definition of noisecore. i don't give too many fucks about this dilemma tho.
and yes, KILLER McHANN!! it's .. umm.. killer! saw them live some years ago and loved it, but somehow kinda forgot about the band. but then picked up the 7" some time ago and fell in love again. and mr. martinkauppi is one of the sweetest fellers in the business.
I think there is certain attitude that makes band either be noisecore, be associated with noisecore or just not being close at all.
Why few riffs don't really hurt. In history of noisecore, there are plenty of bands use used some riffs. Either as intros or within songs. But I think there is the thing, do they aim to be "credible" grind or hc band who just can't make it, or are they aiming to be just what they are. South American scene, especially Brazil scene was possibly my favorite. Bands could border hc or grind, but they were still something any cool grinder would dismiss as worthless bullshit. Especially to my appeal was the nihilist noisecore bands, with promotion of extremism of all sorts. Exterminio Brutal, Hell Noise, Noise, Industrial Holocaust, Sonic Radioactive (check: http://www.cfprod.com/noisecore/sonicrad-int.htm), Necropussy, etc. Already the names mentioned in that interview, what Davi things are vital in Brazil noisecore, brings shivers to your spine! You also see the amusing phenomena how scene was divided with some lifelovers and nihilists and eachother seemed to consider other side "nazis" etc. heh..
Even if something like Destruction Human or Trucidator etc were simply technically "lame", it's something so far from anal this and that and cunt that, what all is "gay" and that teenage humor what dominates the western noisecore. Therefore, for my own recordings as Nihilist Commando, it's vital influence still today.
V/A The edge of Painful Sensation LP - that's something to hunt. Originally not meant to be sold. Especially not for wrong people. 250 copies traded and handed out among the trustworthy noiseheads. You will find it in blogs. Noise/Mayhem Decay Cudgel/Rotten Anger, Conflito Final. Makes you want to pick up axe and dissect some teenagers with their trendy Rotten Sound and Nasum t-shirts, hehe...
This hardly relates to noisecore in Finland, by any other means that my own personal contacts. I used to be in touch with just about "everybody" in nc "scene" in early 90's. I don't remember many having passion for the south america chaos, except the mastermind behind A.N.H. (noisecore) probably better known from Will Over Matter nowadays.
I'm pretty sure this can't be re-created. It happened when it happened, but I'm quite surprised that there is so few people who try to take noisecore seriously. I mean, to extent that it can be. No need to exclude the humor that lies in this nonsense by definition, but that they could have things to say - or at least pretend so, heh.. and it would communicate with listener by other means than references to anime, gayness and fart humor.
nice interview and great call on the 4 way LP...excellent one !
Quote from: halthan on February 25, 2011, 02:34:03 PM
burial
If BURIAL counts...How about NAUSEA?( later name changed into SCIENTIFIC NERVE or something if my memory serves me right.)
Saw `em live, must have been 87 or 88(wasnt that mr. HALTHAN`s organized gig-Länsi-Pasilan nuorisotalo-???). Very noisy close to noisecore. Guys from RYTMIHÄIRIÖ and ALENNUSMYYNTI.
Quote from: XE on February 26, 2011, 11:39:10 PM
Quote from: halthan on February 25, 2011, 02:34:03 PM
burial
If BURIAL counts...How about NAUSEA?( later name changed into SCIENTIFIC NERVE or something if my memory serves me right.)
Saw `em live, must have been 87 or 88(wasnt that mr. HALTHAN`s organized gig-Länsi-Pasilan nuorisotalo-???). Very noisy close to noisecore. Guys from RYTMIHÄIRIÖ and ALENNUSMYYNTI.
Yes, I organized it
Quote from: halthan on February 27, 2011, 09:27:57 AM
Quote from: XE on February 26, 2011, 11:39:10 PM
Quote from: halthan on February 25, 2011, 02:34:03 PM
burial
If BURIAL counts...How about NAUSEA?( later name changed into SCIENTIFIC NERVE or something if my memory serves me right.)
Saw `em live, must have been 87 or 88(wasnt that mr. HALTHAN`s organized gig-Länsi-Pasilan nuorisotalo-???). Very noisy close to noisecore. Guys from RYTMIHÄIRIÖ and ALENNUSMYYNTI.
Yes, I organized it
I think I saw Nausea in Lieto too. And Rytmihäiriö with Kalle on vocals, one of the best shows I've ever seen.
Quote from: theotherjohn on February 28, 2011, 10:58:33 AM
Those would be great Noisecore band names.
Yeah. I like this: ORSE PORNO SEX TUBE maybe a side project in someday.
Anyone remember the name of the noisecore project members of Xysma did? This was back when they were still called Repulse. I remember rumours of a c-90 tape with 5000 songs...!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEC2Z01LnuE
Nihilist Commando live, someone uploaded material of Degenerating Finland dvdr.
Finnish Noisecore comp CD reaching final steps. Been under work for ages, like 3 years. Includes unreleased materials from 1994-2011. I know there are now some bands who should be included, but since it doesn't try to be any anthology, just comp, we'll see in future...
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on March 25, 2011, 05:40:45 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEC2Z01LnuE
Nihilist Commando live, someone uploaded material of Degenerating Finland dvdr.
Has there been more than one NC gig? The infamous one in Factory w/ Unborn SF was in 2007, yet the link says 2006.
Ah, then it just mistake. Hard to keep track when what happened...
This is only gig at the moment, and that was this gig.
http://trialsoftheimpure.blogspot.com/2011/03/nihilist-commando-interview.html
Pori Noisecore Madness by me and my friend (known from Hippycrack and Mucophiliac Narcolepsy)
http://www.4shared.com/audio/U041WrYt/9411.html
Rehearsal from yesterday.
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on March 25, 2011, 05:40:45 PM
Finnish Noisecore comp CD reaching final steps. Been under work for ages, like 3 years. Includes unreleased materials from 1994-2011. I know there are now some bands who should be included, but since it doesn't try to be any anthology, just comp, we'll see in future...
Looking frw this!! Any new info?
Well, since Kuolema could be seen as noisecore, I think that Noituus should also be mentioned. It's messy and chaotic crust punk-blur with really cheap recording equipment, aside of their newest demo which was recorded in a studio. Some have compared the band's sound to a washing machine, heh.
Quote from: DBL on May 05, 2011, 07:23:00 PM
Well, since Kuolema could be seen as noisecore
It cannot be seen as noisecore. Blurry vocalist and very fast hardcore do not count as noisecore, not even if they play drunk.
Quote from: Ryöstö on February 24, 2011, 09:45:34 PM
Quote from: Antti O. on February 24, 2011, 06:57:27 PM
There was some talk after the Pori gig (BU/SS/Grunt) about organizing a noisecore night in the same gallery at some point. Any news on this? Would be great because there's not too many pure noisecore gigs around.
There hasn't been any development with that idea... yet. There'll be one semi private gig soon(ish) in Galleria 3H+K and after that I might not be organizing anymore gigs there, hehe.
But hopefully the noisecore evening will happen in Pori sometime in future, maybe in summer, maybe when Pori Jazz is organized, it might get some artsy jazz fans there, too, hah.
This will be soon i think....
Not yet mentioned:
Masokismi
Tuska
I think these are Noisecore? Atleast Masokismi.
Tuska is ultra chaotic and noisy but with more HC punk structures.
Anyway, both can be recommended to friends of dirty and chaotic stuff..
Well, I think Tuska started as "black core". It was more like noisy hardcore with real songs, real lyrics, trying to capture essence of raw bm too. Masokismi started more like Tuska tribute band, hah... I think that was his main influence. I wouldn't say either one would be "noisecore", even if the sound is noisy. Otherwise any messy hc/punk would qualify.
New Anal Barbara tapes coming "soon".
Quote from: XTORSOX on November 26, 2011, 07:25:07 PM
New Anal Barbara tapes coming "soon".
AB shreds out the Noisecore like no other.
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on April 01, 2011, 07:54:13 AM
http://trialsoftheimpure.blogspot.com/2011/03/nihilist-commando-interview.html
That link is down. Is that interview anywhere else? tsk tsk...should have given me the interview!
Quote from: XTORSOX on November 26, 2011, 07:25:07 PM
New Anal Barbara tapes coming "soon".
Paukapää and Kirsi tapes is available. Trades are welcome.
Horse Porno Sex Tube is recorded.
Full sets of Anal Barbara & Musta Oksennus from 26.5 Vantaa gig:
Anal Barbara: http://obscurex.org/YIXST001.WAV
Musta Oksennus: http://obscurex.org/SIXST001.WAV
Also on a related note: Out in July through Obscurex:
(http://obscurex.org/abmomai.jpg)
10 minutes of new material from both bands!
In addition to that there will be a new Musta Oksennus C20 on Crown Tapes available in the coming week or so.
Very excited about doing that tape for them. They rule!!!!
First Gestapo attitude gig: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6pwinOwLg4
gestapo attittude = very tight!!
I remember listening to Rectal Machete (http://www.myspace.com/rectalmachete) back when MySpace was still a (good) thing. Should have a couple of their CD-R's lying around somewhere. Silly stuff, but noisecore nonetheless.
A newer band and their debut tape: Beer Terror - 79-Tracks (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E43p9fWvVqQ)
Sloppy un-music and bursts of noisecore.
Also, Vomit Pint (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9Ugwa7Oz-Y) made one CD-R entitled "Abortion is a service to mankind." 28 songs of grinding noisecore. Not for noisecore-purists, I'd say. Don't remember if they did any other releases.
Did a brief search of Anus Cunt after seeing mr. Aspa mentioning it having Impaled Nazarene-members, and found these bits:
Nevermind the Burzum, Here's Anus Cunt (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykcZC1HLE-0)
Glumph (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKCO8nfb130)
Fun stuff, heh!
Has anyone bought the new Unpeace-tape yet? I haven't, but I'm trusting it to be a good one. Suitable length and a very affordable price, too.
Latest Finn noisecore what has entered my ears:
UNPEACE "Troops of No Tomorrow" demo
I think their contribution to Saastaa Suomesta 7" ruled. Unfortunate this demo is not as good. It's not bad. Just slightly less interesting sound quality. In this type of junk rubbish music, sound plays significant part. Niko appears to play drums better than ever, yet still this is like HC/punk tempo short "blasts", not super fast machinegun blast. Rough strings and slightly effected vocals, sometimes sounds like there would be morbid downwards pitch-shifted effect? Good idea on demo is to separate pieces of noisecore with pieces of sounds of warfare etc. I like the barbarian element of Unpeace, that it lacks all the coolness of noisecore that appeals to "masses". Lets say, if the tight, superfast, goofy, odd or innovative bands could appeal someone, this tape is for nobody else but demented noisecore fanatics.
S.E.X./Unpeace - Split 7" at press now.
Saastaa Suomesta II 12" Later this year.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32FNAN9kcyg
Herska!
Love that he's playing that vile spew through a Fender Twin!!
In all seriousness, that was pretty fucking tight.
The S.E.X. / Unpeace 7" and the Saastaa Soumesta records are total fucking ragers. What else is in the pipeline? More soon from Anal Barbara? They seem to be my favorite of the current crop of Finnish noisecore bangers....
Before l start contributing to the forum, l would like to introduce myself as well as what my interests are. I'm all the way from Serbia, deeply rooted into underground grindcore / noisecore / obscure hardcore shit.. Running small crappy distro, doing screen printing t-shirts, fanzine in English etc.
Now, back to the topic hehe. Hey Mikko, I heard from Jonte that you're working on ARSESLAUGHTER discography cd! Awesome news, hope that will happen.
Niko, bring UNPEACE stuff in Serbia + OBSCUREX!
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on April 01, 2011, 07:54:13 AM
http://trialsoftheimpure.blogspot.com/2011/03/nihilist-commando-interview.html
Is this interview still available from anyone ? Blog doesnt exist anymore and i would like to read it.
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Quote from: V.T.R on February 13, 2016, 03:17:11 PM
Shameless self promotion:
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Offensive and powerful noisecore. Influenced by Rapt, Fear Of God, Brigada Do Odio, Intolitarian and Herpes. Guided by Julius Evola, Savitri Devi, Jack Abernathy and Jägermeister. Limited edition pro-cassette.
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Ordered a copy together with LÄMPIMÄT JUUTALAISET tape. Very curious to hear them.
There two tapes are very different approach. But also in some ways fit together.
Lämpimät Juutalaiset ("warm jews") is short humorous set, where noise itself is almost like Gerogerigegege "mother fellatio" type of crunchy noises. Short rumbles with low pitched vocals, goofy intropieces selected from classic finnish pop songs, often with theme involving negro. Don't ask more information, I guess one would have to lived in those days to "get" the "point", haha..
Purely anti-musical approach, where is no riffs, no "structure". Just short crunchy noise attacks.
Kali Yuga Noise in the other hand takes much more musical approach, like described in information. Fear Of God, Rapt, Brigada Do Odio, Herpes and all those were less about the "anal cunt / 7mon" tradition and more about short chaotic hardcorepunk rooted blasting. Each song has lyrics. There are actual riffs and patterns, but still it's kind of beyond the point one would call it hardcorepunk, grindcore or such. Noisy sound.
What can lump these bands together, is that they are from Finland and that each of them are pretty much diametrical opposition of "punk scene". While Lämpimät Juutalaiset goes for cheap racist humor and offensive provocations, Kali Yuga Noise takes obscure path in noisecore where themes emerge from slightly more intelligent ("") direction filled with cultural pessimism. Perhaps one could say that quite rare case, if not counting Nihilist Commando?!
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on February 17, 2016, 03:05:12 PM
There two tapes are very different approach. But also in some ways fit together.
Lämpimät Juutalaiset ("warm jews") is short humorous set, where noise itself is almost like Gerogerigegege "mother fellatio" type of crunchy noises. Short rumbles with low pitched vocals, goofy intropieces selected from classic finnish pop songs, often with theme involving negro. Don't ask more information, I guess one would have to lived in those days to "get" the "point", haha..
Purely anti-musical approach, where is no riffs, no "structure". Just short crunchy noise attacks.
Kali Yuga Noise in the other hand takes much more musical approach, like described in information. Fear Of God, Rapt, Brigada Do Odio, Herpes and all those were less about the "anal cunt / 7mon" tradition and more about short chaotic hardcorepunk rooted blasting. Each song has lyrics. There are actual riffs and patterns, but still it's kind of beyond the point one would call it hardcorepunk, grindcore or such. Noisy sound.
What can lump these bands together, is that they are from Finland and that each of them are pretty much diametrical opposition of "punk scene". While Lämpimät Juutalaiset goes for cheap racist humor and offensive provocations, Kali Yuga Noise takes obscure path in noisecore where themes emerge from slightly more intelligent ("") direction filled with cultural pessimism. Perhaps one could say that quite rare case, if not counting Nihilist Commando?!
I agree. I've heard some tracks through DTP radio and I've appreciated both projects.
Sure, Kali Yuga Noise has a deeper approach than L.J., more constructed and so on, but, sometimes, noise and cheap racism is exactly what you need in the morning, at least here in Italy!
I've just ordered the Kali Yuga Noise tape from Bestial Burst. The descriptions sound excellent. I am 100% interested in anything with Rapt/Fear of God as an influence.
Kali Yuga Noise tape arrived the other day. Musically great, lyrically just not my thing, more "conservative" than anything else. Funny to see the Fear of God influence musically and Elvin Jones on the thanks list. I suspect this is more tongue in cheek than anything but what do I know....
any distro still has this Kali Yuga Noise tape for sale?
Quote from: holy ghost on March 13, 2016, 04:09:18 PM
Kali Yuga Noise tape arrived the other day. Musically great, lyrically just not my thing, more "conservative" than anything else. Funny to see the Fear of God influence musically and Elvin Jones on the thanks list. I suspect this is more tongue in cheek than anything but what do I know....
I am the bass-player in Kali Yuga Noise and would like to comment a few things.
"Conservative"? Hell yes, what did you expect?! Another lame joke-band with "anal-themes"? Some liberal left-wing bs? "Tongue-in-cheek"? NEVER. Too old and cynical for that shit.
Just to set you straight, there is no "thanks to"-list. Fear Of God is mentioned as a musical influence and Elvin Jones(as well as James Read) is mentioned because our drummer wanted to show his appreciation for those guys as his own influences. Nothing else.
Some people have called our lyrics "pessimist", others even "fascist". I can understand both descriptions. New stuff will be even more extreme and surely "conservative". Not for the trendy "noisecore"-crowd, but for true lovers of noisy hardcore/noisecore.
Quote from: radokaz on March 14, 2016, 01:44:55 PM
any distro still has this Kali Yuga Noise tape for sale?
Try Filth & Violence. Or I just may have 1-2 tapes somewhere, so e-mail me if nothing else is working.
Quote from: h8jussi on March 15, 2016, 02:14:50 PMwhat did you expect?!
Well, considering there was virtually zero information about the band other than "sounds like Rapt, Fear of God" how could I know what to expect? I'm not even trying to bust your balls here man, musically the tape is great. Lyrically, I just didn't jive. I'd still pick up future releases for sure. I don't need everything I listen to to match my lefty political views.... It's just I typically don't read lyrics like that - not shocking, in your face, just kind of like shit my grandpa used to say....
Quote from: holy ghost on March 13, 2016, 04:09:18 PM
Kali Yuga Noise tape arrived the other day. Musically great, lyrically just not my thing, more "conservative" than anything else. Funny to see the Fear of God influence musically and Elvin Jones on the thanks list. I suspect this is more tongue in cheek than anything but what do I know....
Definitely not joking about Elvin Jones! He is one of my favourite drummers of all time. Even though I also play different instruments in several other bands from spacerock, krautrock, sludge, doom etc. I mostly listen jazz when I am home.
I am listening to Digable Planets while writing this. Yo!
Quote from: holy ghost on March 15, 2016, 04:10:21 PM
...just kind of like shit my grandpa used to say....
:)
Quote from: V.T.R on March 15, 2016, 04:20:39 PM
:)
My grandfather was a great guy, but he had no love for gays, or the Chinese.....
He rented "The Birdcage" by accident, one time, hearing him talk about why they should blow up everyone involved with the making of that film was a real trip man.....
Anyway I'm veering off topic. It's a killer tape. What else do you have planned?
Quote from: holy ghost on March 15, 2016, 04:48:17 PM
Quote from: V.T.R on March 15, 2016, 04:20:39 PM
:)
My grandfather was a great guy, but he had no love for gays, or the Chinese.....
He rented "The Birdcage" by accident, one time, hearing him talk about why they should blow up everyone involved with the making of that film was a real trip man.....
Anyway I'm veering off topic. It's a killer tape. What else do you have planned?
A little conversation is always welcome and thanks for the compliment! We are currently working on a new material and hopefully get that out by the end of the year.
Still continuing the off-topic; I personally don't care about lyrics almost in any music, because I am more interested in sounds and instruments. That's why I love noise and jazz. I can easily listen to Blazebirth Hall bands in the wintertime and Lee Perry and Augustus Pablo in the summer. Some old NYHC bands have great lyrics and that's it. Well, sometimes I amuse myself and read Anal Cunt lyrics from internet because those are so over the top :)
I definitely was not expecting an Augustus Pablo mention in this thread, ha.
Quote from: yosef666 on March 15, 2016, 06:00:43 PM
I definitely was not expecting an Augustus Pablo mention in this thread, ha.
Me neither, but V never ceases to surprise me. But KYN will keep on keepin´ on(ha ha) and will carry the flame of the 8ts with my own personal views as lyrics as long as it is needed. Humour does not belong in music(except for Intense Mutilation), and I definately have had my fill with these "funny as hell"-noisecorebands with no message except "anal and penis". We are the sound of yesterday and the message of old values.
Quote from: yosef666 on March 15, 2016, 06:00:43 PM
I definitely was not expecting an Augustus Pablo mention in this thread, ha.
Nor I. I'm into it though. There's a lot of inspiration noisecore could take from free jazz. I'm a huge fan of Rashied Ali's drumming myself. That's the sort of suff that makes me want to learn how to play the drums....
I was listening to the S.E.X. / Unpeace 7" last night and reminded I really need to investigate more from Unpeace. Unless I am unsure of which side is which, Mr. White Label.....
Just finished exploring some Finnish Noisecore today. First of all:
Kali Yuga Noise - Degeneration of our SpeciesAmazing sound! Very crisp and rich. Certainly clear that this is a band and not just one individual with digital methods etc. Certainly a full-length is needed!
Regarding the themes:
Quote from: h8jussi on March 15, 2016, 02:14:50 PM
I am the bass-player in Kali Yuga Noise and would like to comment a few things.
"Conservative"? Hell yes, what did you expect?! Another lame joke-band with "anal-themes"? Some liberal left-wing bs? "Tongue-in-cheek"? NEVER. Too old and cynical for that shit.
Just to set you straight, there is no "thanks to"-list. Fear Of God is mentioned as a musical influence and Elvin Jones(as well as James Read) is mentioned because our drummer wanted to show his appreciation for those guys as his own influences. Nothing else.
Some people have called our lyrics "pessimist", others even "fascist". I can understand both descriptions. New stuff will be even more extreme and surely "conservative". Not for the trendy "noisecore"-crowd, but for true lovers of noisy hardcore/noisecore.
THIS is something that really sells this project for me. Ditching the comical approach and going unhumourous and stern. I would take this over some "fun" project with shallow porn imagery any day of the week!
Next up was:
Unpeace / NyrkkiFirst track comes creeping in and reminds of the drawn-out ultra-filth that is a trademark of many recent F&V acts. Crispy production and slow build-up make it very enjoyable! Nyrkki's solo track is probably the high-point for me. Noisecore chaos with great vocals and a sound that is much deeper and menacing than is usually the case with Noisecore. As said in reference to Kali Yuga Noise: Full-length is direly needed! Unpeace is also very good, more pitchy and focussed on simple aggression, but that is what makes it great, imo.
https://vomitpint.bandcamp.com/album/yl-stempaus-antikristus
New record from Vomit Pint. tape coming later...
This topic hasn't been updated in a while. I'm sure lots has happened since the last update that I'm not aware of, but here's some "news."
Lolita Slavinder published discography compilation CDs from Arseslaughter and A.N.H. Arseslaughter operated between Arse and YesMeansYes, and unsurprisingly they play short blasts of noisecore in the vein of Anal Cunt etc. So, good stuff in the classical vein. A.N.H. is way weirder with its drum machine beats and variance between short bursts and almost-music slower bits. No guitar, just drum machine, fuzzy bass and brute grunts. Possibly due to the project's line-up the slower bits remind me of Irritate, but either way, especially when compared with the more traditional material of Arseslaughter this one comes off as really odd. It's pretty damn good, though, once the initial shock passes. The label describes it better than me: "Blastbeats mixed with weird 80´s drum machine rhythms and very noncommercial attitude, this duo was originally influenced by the likes of Sore Throat and Godflesh and came up sounding like early Meat Shits, Audio Stench, Potabilizadora etc. drum machine driven noisecore bands from the golden era of the genre. "
Wasn't Rectal Machete's compilation tape mentioned here? Absolutely recommended! About 60 minutes' worth of nasty and screeching noisecore. Feedback-heavy, kinda punk-styled and sloppy, but easily tight, intense and noisy enough to not seem like some "noise for noise's sake"-style joke project. It can seem a bit goofy at times, and the screamed vocals may be too over the top for some, but I enjoyed the tape a lot. The tape shows clear intent at making damage. Released by Obsessive Fundamental Realism.
And while on topic of old stuff getting re-issued, Cadaverizer Records has just recently issued Aunt Mary's "Nicht In Den Gehörgang Einführen "-tape from 1992 and the split tape between Scab (Japan) and the Finnish V.M.S. (aka Vapaamelusaaste) from 1994. Haven't heard the AM-tape yet, but since it's an official reissue I'd assume the sound quality etc. should be ok. Luckily I've got the latter tape and it's very recommendable! I hope more "lost classics" will be reissued by the label.
As of actually new (non-reissue) stuff: Unpeace made a split with Morta Lenta and Musta Oksennus published a tape of their own, but sadly I've heard neither yet (comments are very welcome!). Fecal Fetal published a noisecore-style tape through Against Audio. 40 songs (with lyrics) in about 10 minutes. Raw, screeching stuff. That one can be streamed on bandcamp (https://fecalfetal.bandcamp.com/releases). Beer Terror (bandcamp link (https://beerterror.bandcamp.com/)) just recently made a split with Ragebomb (which I'm awaiting in the mail, so I can't comment on that either hah...), and I think they have a couple of more split in the works. And... Is that it? Hopefully not!
Not 100% on topic, but Against Audio also released a split between Oksennus (Finnish obscure death metal) and Sedem Minút Strachu (Slovakian noisecore) at the same time as the FF-tape. The Oksennus-side is absolutely recommended, but SMS's side had a too damp and bassy sound for my liking.
Kali Yuga Noise was in the studio three weeks ago and recorded 27 new songs for a future vinyl release. If you liked the tape, this shit will blow your mind. Stay tuned.
Up we go. Jump! Van Halen is a great band.
Well, the split-12" is still in the works like we all have guessed. In the meantime, during my recent move to the new flat, I found two tapes from my archives. Guess they were reserved for friends who never claimed them. Well, fuck them.
Anybody still needs that tape, contact via e-mail. I would rather trade for similar releases than have have a few jewros. If you have a release that you think I need, contact me. No PMs please, as I rather not come here often.
All this considering our release on BB, of course. All the best from Finland.
hatejussi at h o t m a i l dot com
Do any Finns know the status of ANAL BARBARA? I really love everything I have heard from them but their releases are few and far between. I have the two Saastaa Suomesta comps, the tracks from the Untergeschoss tape and the split with Musta Oksennus. I'd love to hear more from this sensitive noisecore act.....
Also the Saastaa Suomesta comps are among the highlights of Finnish noisecore, is there any chance of a third?
Quote from: holy ghost on September 22, 2017, 02:57:10 AM
Also the Saastaa Suomesta comps are among the highlights of Finnish noisecore, is there any chance of a third?
There is new Noisecore compilation 12" under work, this time with international line-up. Release: First half of 2018 hopefully!
The American label SPHC published a compilation of (mostly contemporary) Finnish noisecore a few months back: https://sphcrecords.bandcamp.com/album/v-a-spews-rot-and-destroys-civility-a-finnish-noisecore-compendium-12-sphc-127
In addition to that there seems to be at least some things going on. Vomit Pint published a new tape this year that seems to already be sold out, argh... It's on bandcamp though: https://paskaalttari.bandcamp.com/album/extinction-addiction
The same label also reissued Turd Reich's GREAT demo tape, that can also be heard on the same label's bandcamp page.
Fairly new band Toilet Korpse has a few tapes out: https://toiletkorpse.bandcamp.com/
Genital Nausea, also a new band, has put out one tape so far: https://genitalnausea.bandcamp.com/album/genital-nausea
I'd say at least fans of Genital Masticator might want to check it out.
Earlier mentioned Kali Yuga Noise had their final release published under the title The White Album. Probably not available for streaming due to the lyrical content.
Death metal band Axeslaughter published a tape about a year ago that's more of the noisecore style. Gone from the label but should still be available somewhere, and can be heard here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8V63fjbWmqc
Also published by (and now sold out from) Garbage Fountain, the latest Romutus live tape: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WajSrmSLxGY
That one was also published as a CD-R in Brazil by Musikal Exterminator Prods.
I think Death Basket has been more active playing gigs and just busy with the members' other bands, but in any case their stuff is well worth checking out: https://deathbasket.bandcamp.com/
Wild and intense noisecore/noisegrind with some occasional noise, psychedelic and other types of freeform experimentation.
Nahkajätkät has a bunch of online releases out that I haven't checked, and at least one 7" lathe and CD-R too. However I do have their Sakeimmat Keitokset tape which seems to be a collection of snippets from different sessions, and that one worked even better than I had anticipated. Their bandcamp: https://nahkajatkat.bandcamp.com/
I am probably forgetting something, but the rest of "new releases" that come to my mind are from a couple of years ago at least heh... Like the Rectal Machete bizcard.
I think several of the older "bands", activity can me only measured by if releases are done publicly. For example Nihilist Commando has lots of unfinished recordings. Sessions that were done, but.. not completely. There is plan for one split album where bunch of unreleased complete recordings would be combined with latest recordings as soon as vocals are done (meaning, lyrics for hundreds of songs are done).
I've heard bunch of new recordings from people who are known to have noisecore bands/projects, and they just aren't made public, but exists.
Jesus Hitler tape was an interesting one, sort of a mix of black metal and noisecore from guys who have played in various Finnish black metal bands. I think the recordings were done live from 2 different locations in Finland.
I think there is 2nd demo too, that remains unreleased at the moment. Seeing then live, not so memorable musically, but amusing.
Latest news I heard there would be some new releases coming by Herska! Or was it reissues of the old stuff. That is some seriously demented Finn noisecore, in best possible way.