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GENERAL SOUND DISCUSSION => GENERAL SOUND DISCUSSION => Topic started by: Azoikum on June 18, 2012, 01:40:58 AM

Title: Skin Crime
Post by: Azoikum on June 18, 2012, 01:40:58 AM
Keith inspired me to this in the end of the Whorebutcher thread.

What are your personal faves ? Although I love them all Whorebutcher and Urge stand out for me.

As Keith was asking before, what is Patrick up to nowadays ? Way too long without any sign of life from Skin Crime !
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: Mikerdeath on June 18, 2012, 02:58:35 AM
Favorite Skin Crime stuff is the "Monster" 7" on self abuse.
The LP on hospital is also along that same style and also rules.

Audio Pathology.

TAINT/SKIN CRIME/SICKNESS 3 way split rules.


One of the best American noise artists for sure.

Really enjoy the even more obscure HANGED MAN'S ORGASM aswell.
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: Zeno Marx on June 18, 2012, 03:37:50 AM
The s/t LP from 2003.  Had a few of the cassettes in the early-mid 90s.  Didn't care for them.  The LP is great.
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: Bloated Slutbag on June 18, 2012, 07:16:22 AM
Agree with Whorebutcher and Urge. The former for its excess densities pitting ear-bleed sonics against almost droning excursions, the latter for its nicely panned arrangement of extremely high-end frying fleshed out with bottom-heavy rumble-loads.

I also really like Trauma for its completely burnt out damaged sound, like some poor wretch retching and  hacking into a mic jammed down his throat whilst his innards are wrenched out with a contact-mic'd wire cutting implement. Just a total audio wreck.
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: THE RITA HN on June 18, 2012, 12:03:51 PM
TSUNAMI
WHOREBUTCHER
URGE

Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: audiodissection on June 18, 2012, 09:50:16 PM
Personal favourites:

Audio Pathology
Whorebutcher
Tsunami
split 7" w/Pain Jerk

but everything from Skin Crime is worth having. I think a new LP and CD is planned on Self Abuse.
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: troniks on June 19, 2012, 10:06:13 AM
Skin Crime is my favorite noise artist of all time.

The s/t lp on Hospital and the Audio Pathology cd are both must-owns.
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: FreakAnimalFinland on June 19, 2012, 10:45:28 AM
It's quite amazing that Audio Pathology CD is supposedly 500 copies done, and in discogs you can see "23 has this".  While Control Domination CD, same pressing, released same time, "93 has this".  OVMN only "15 has this". slogun CD 46..  Radiosonde CD isn't mentioned there.
But it makes me really wonder did the label make 500 of all these?  Especially when more people appear to have some very small edition Skin Crime CDR's but not this full length?

It makes one really wonder did label have energy to wrap all 500 OVMN discs to such packaging... I have my doubts. But I guess it's more Armed & Loaded topic than Skin Crime topic. But perhaps Audio Pathology would require re-issue to be properly available?  Skin Crime appears to have suffered about too many failed deals? I think at this moment there are releases that were supposed to come out as LP, but so far not made it.

I once asked possibility of re-issue some old tapes/Cdr's as real cd, but I recall he felt it was unnecessary. I have hard time to figure out how many people would be interested in Skin Crime, but I have no hard time hearing it would be ESSENTIAL for the project to have few more properly made CD or LP releases since it's far above remaining just some cheap inkjet cover bulk cdr type of project.
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: bitewerksMTB on June 19, 2012, 10:55:06 PM
It would be good to see SC get the Industrial Recoll. treatment. Maybe he still has the cd-r reissues in stock hence not thinking more are needed? I wish I hadn't missed out on the boxset he did with leather case. I have the Murder 7" in  a leather sleeve & the split with PainJerk in textured painted boxset. I love the Armed & Loaded cd but never really got into the s/t LP. His live performance were interesting despite him just sitting in front of the amp with his back to the audience.
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: Bereft on June 20, 2012, 03:12:05 AM
When dom and I put out the s/t lp it took about a week for all three hundred to disappear.  Now this was before hospital was a "collectors" paradise, so I would discount that aspect of the release.  I think there is a market for Patrick to re-release his stuff with better quality packaging, and I wouldn't mind seeing them released on record.   
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: cipher chris on June 20, 2012, 03:42:54 AM
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on June 19, 2012, 10:45:28 AM
Skin Crime appears to have suffered about too many failed deals? I think at this moment there are releases that were supposed to come out as LP, but so far not made it.
As with a Hanged Man's Orgasm double LP, I believe.  Recorded, masters with label which has long disappeared, unfortunately Patrick didn't have a master copy himself when I asked him.  Would have offered to put it out in a second had it been possible.
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: tisbor on June 20, 2012, 03:09:37 PM
i think i'm missing some of the classics, but my personal favorites:

7" split with Pain Jerk
"Natural Disasters" split with Government Alpha
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: Bloated Slutbag on June 20, 2012, 09:34:39 PM
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on June 19, 2012, 10:45:28 AM
It's quite amazing that Audio Pathology CD is supposedly 500 copies done, and in discogs you can see "23 has this".  While Control Domination CD, same pressing, released same time, "93 has this".  OVMN only "15 has this". slogun CD 46..  Radiosonde CD isn't mentioned there.
But it makes me really wonder did the label make 500 of all these?  Especially when more people appear to have some very small edition Skin Crime CDR's but not this full length?

I remember having a very similar reaction not long after this came out. What could/should have been a big event (comparatively speaking) was barely a blip on the radar.

But since I'm here, allow me to provide a small voice of dissent... while Audio Pathology does serve up quite a diverse assortment of tasties, none of them quite hits that sweetest of sweet spots. Possibly because it tries to overreach, I don't know. I've given this one several more chances than it probably deserves, and a bit of creative eq adjustment goes a long way but... not quite far enough says me. Maybe I'll chuck this into the "to be reappraised" bin along with Akasha Gulva...
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: eyestrain on June 22, 2012, 12:09:46 AM
This is redundant, but Eyestrain is the end-all-be-all Skin Crime for me. I wish it was 2 hours longer. Have never listened to a single noise piece more.
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: Leatherface on July 01, 2012, 12:02:19 PM
Skin Crime is an awesome project, maybe one of the best noise project ever, and Patrick really a nice guy !!!
I get one Skin Crime box from him, years ago, only one of these exist i think, and specially dedicated to me :)
It countain:

One "leather style" box
"Tsunami" cdr
"Parasite" cdr
"King of the Deathmatch" cdr
"Trauma" tape

Fucking Masterpiece !!!!
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: Half Aborted on July 04, 2012, 04:09:27 AM
I'd really welcome Skin Crime reissues and I'm sure I'm not the only one. Most of the material is hard to obtain even as a download, but what I have got is really high quality harsh noise, the kind I crave and need more of.
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: eyestrain on July 04, 2012, 04:47:06 AM
Quote from: Half Aborted on July 04, 2012, 04:09:27 AM
I'd really welcome Skin Crime reissues and I'm sure I'm not the only one. Most of the material is hard to obtain even as a download, but what I have got is really high quality harsh noise, the kind I crave and need more of.

Seconded.
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: xdementia on July 04, 2012, 09:02:07 AM
Mark Jameson plays in a prog/experimental doom band called Kintaan (http://kintaan.bandcamp.com/) now. He also plays noise as Ultra Spasm Aktion (http://youtu.be/P7D3cH_5tGg) in Boston from time to time.

As for my favorite Skin Crime it's probably the material on the Beast split CD.
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: Reprobate on July 11, 2012, 12:33:57 AM
It seems like "Whorebutcher" is a unanimous favorite. Anyone know where I could find a copy of that? Saw one on discogs from Italy, but I only pay cash for stuff.
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: dogcw on August 06, 2015, 08:22:40 PM
Anybody have details on the SC box coming out on Hospital?
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: FreakAnimalFinland on August 06, 2015, 10:16:01 PM
I believe it is 20 x cd set... Will be insane...
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: eyestrain on August 08, 2015, 02:46:44 PM
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on August 06, 2015, 10:16:01 PM20 x cd set...

While this is probably the most exciting news ever, I'm feeling pretty leery also... Will I have to buy this from Boomkat for $200?
Hopefully some quality distro's will pick up copies and somehow manage a fair price. If not, I will grudgingly oblige with a smile anyway.
Con-Dom boxsets, Ultra boxsets, Skin Crime...let's keep 'em coming, please!
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: PTM Jim on August 10, 2015, 12:16:27 AM
Yep. Will be 20xCD boxset. All reissued (and some unreleased material if I'm not mistaken), but no collab work. Skin Crime and Skin Crime only! Currently in the works so this IS in fact happening. Completely essential.
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: sterilization on March 02, 2016, 04:32:29 PM
Up for pre-order today!!!
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: collapsedhole on March 02, 2016, 05:55:52 PM
gave me a better jolt then the morning coffee. the only exciting news i've heard in a long time! especially interesting is 4 unreleased mixes of the s/t lp.
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: totalabuse on March 02, 2016, 06:12:06 PM
I wasn't ready to wake up and spend all my extra money for the month but fuck it... It's Skin Crime baby
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: F_c_O on March 02, 2016, 06:21:24 PM
Quote from: eyestrain on August 08, 2015, 02:46:44 PM
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on August 06, 2015, 10:16:01 PM20 x cd set...

While this is probably the most exciting news ever, I'm feeling pretty leery also... Will I have to buy this from Boomkat for $200?
Hopefully some quality distro's will pick up copies and somehow manage a fair price. If not, I will grudgingly oblige with a smile anyway.
Con-Dom boxsets, Ultra boxsets, Skin Crime...let's keep 'em coming, please!
con-dom box set? I know this is wrong topic but first time ive heard of it.
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: ConcreteMascara on March 02, 2016, 07:03:59 PM
Quote from: sterilization on March 02, 2016, 04:32:29 PM
Up for pre-order today!!!

link?
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: SiClark on March 02, 2016, 07:29:47 PM
Quote from: ConcreteMascara on March 02, 2016, 07:03:59 PM
Quote from: sterilization on March 02, 2016, 04:32:29 PM
Up for pre-order today!!!

link?
http://hospitalproductions.net/releases/
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: Otomo_Hava on March 02, 2016, 08:52:34 PM
Quote from: Si Clark on March 02, 2016, 07:29:47 PM
Quote from: ConcreteMascara on March 02, 2016, 07:03:59 PM
Quote from: sterilization on March 02, 2016, 04:32:29 PM
Up for pre-order today!!!

link?
http://hospitalproductions.net/releases/

Any European Distributors to carry this beauty?
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: ConcreteMascara on March 02, 2016, 09:00:16 PM
Quote from: Si Clark on March 02, 2016, 07:29:47 PM
Quote from: ConcreteMascara on March 02, 2016, 07:03:59 PM
Quote from: sterilization on March 02, 2016, 04:32:29 PM
Up for pre-order today!!!

link?
http://hospitalproductions.net/releases/

Must have missed the email...
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: caveman on March 02, 2016, 09:06:32 PM
Quote from: Otomo_Hava on March 02, 2016, 08:52:34 PM
Quote from: Si Clark on March 02, 2016, 07:29:47 PM
Quote from: ConcreteMascara on March 02, 2016, 07:03:59 PM
Quote from: sterilization on March 02, 2016, 04:32:29 PM
Up for pre-order today!!!

link?
http://hospitalproductions.net/releases/

Any European Distributors to carry this beauty?

I would expect Tesco, they have been stocking a lot of newer Hospital releases.
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: SiClark on March 03, 2016, 01:20:55 AM
Quote from: caveman on March 02, 2016, 09:06:32 PM
I would expect Tesco, they have been stocking a lot of newer Hospital releases.
They seem to jack up the prices to quite an insane level on some tapes, maybe they won't on this release.
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: Scat-O-Logy on March 04, 2016, 02:11:50 PM
Quote from: F_c_O on March 02, 2016, 06:21:24 PM
Quote from: eyestrain on August 08, 2015, 02:46:44 PM
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on August 06, 2015, 10:16:01 PM20 x cd set...

While this is probably the most exciting news ever, I'm feeling pretty leery also... Will I have to buy this from Boomkat for $200?
Hopefully some quality distro's will pick up copies and somehow manage a fair price. If not, I will grudgingly oblige with a smile anyway.
Con-Dom boxsets, Ultra boxsets, Skin Crime...let's keep 'em coming, please!
con-dom box set? I know this is wrong topic but first time ive heard of it.
I'd imagine he meant that double CD/CS compilation on Industrial Recollections.

Seems like epic box... Detailed pics would be appreciated.
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: Azoikum on March 30, 2016, 11:08:14 PM
This is indeed an epic release, had it in the post today, amazing and absolutely recommended ! This must contain about everything Skin Crime has ever released, so grab it quickly while it's still available ! Won't be for too long considering the edition of 300 !
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: SiClark on March 31, 2016, 02:09:12 AM
Hoping mine will arrive soon....
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: Otomo_Hava on March 31, 2016, 11:43:06 PM
Waiting for my copy to arrive as well.
Ordered and bought it from Freak Animal/Northern Heritage webstore, in case of being interested to purchase it.
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: cr on April 30, 2016, 04:41:04 PM
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on August 06, 2015, 10:16:01 PM
I believe it is 20 x cd set... Will be insane...

Indeed...insane! These discs will accompany me through spring and summer. Can't get much better.
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: deutscheasphalt on May 02, 2016, 05:49:30 PM
1 left (http://www.deutsche-asphalt.com/product/skin-crime-case-studies-in-early-taxidermy-techniques)
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: Nil By Mouth on May 05, 2016, 04:58:56 PM
Quote from: Otomo_Hava on March 02, 2016, 08:52:34 PM

Any European Distributors to carry this beauty?

Quote! Who distribuite it in Europe?
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: PTM Jim on May 05, 2016, 06:26:29 PM
Quote from: Nil By Mouth on May 05, 2016, 04:58:56 PM
Quote from: Otomo_Hava on March 02, 2016, 08:52:34 PM

Any European Distributors to carry this beauty?

Quote! Who distribuite it in Europe?
Tesco should have some.
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: mothwings on October 27, 2016, 04:53:54 AM
If anyone has any old Skin Crime or Hanged Mans Orgasm tapes, I'd pay a lot of money for them. PM me.
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: BlackHole on October 28, 2016, 05:09:14 AM
What's the sound pallet like on "The House on the Cliff"? Is more similar to the S/T on Hospital or is more like abrasive like his early material?
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: Theodore on October 28, 2016, 06:42:53 AM
Quote from: BlackHole on October 28, 2016, 05:09:14 AM
What's the sound pallet like on "The House on the Cliff"? Is more similar to the S/T on Hospital or is more like abrasive like his early material?

I have listened a rip. If i recall correctly more close to Hospital one.
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: MMMM on January 27, 2017, 11:01:11 PM
What's the story with these new Hanged Man's Orgasm tapes?

https://www.discogs.com/Hanged-Mans-Orgasm-Secrets/release/9602358
https://www.discogs.com/Hanged-Mans-Orgasm-Mystery/release/9602366
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: absurdexposition on January 28, 2017, 08:36:52 PM
The story is they're great
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: 13 on May 31, 2017, 02:39:19 PM
Is the Hospital box still available anywhere besides Discogs?
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: PTM Jim on May 31, 2017, 11:29:23 PM
Quote from: 13 on May 31, 2017, 02:39:19 PM
Is the Hospital box still available anywhere besides Discogs?
The 150 on Discogs was retail price. Plus you'd be getting it directly from Patrick. Grab it, it's worth every penny.
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: 13 on June 01, 2017, 01:10:37 AM
Quote from: PTM Jim on May 31, 2017, 11:29:23 PM
Quote from: 13 on May 31, 2017, 02:39:19 PM
Is the Hospital box still available anywhere besides Discogs?
The 150 on Discogs was retail price. Plus you'd be getting it directly from Patrick. Grab it, it's worth every penny.

I am located in Europe, so I would prefer a European seller in order to avoid a large customs fee.
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: collapsedhole on June 01, 2017, 03:42:02 AM
finally grabbed my copy from patrick about a month ago so he's still got copies. almost made my way through the whole thing... so awesome getting to hear all the old titles i've wanted to hear since i got into noise music almost 20 years ago.

prenatal, eyestrain, urge, whorebutcher, burn, king of the deathmatch..... all soooo fucking good.

my only complaint is the box doesn't feature any of the art from the original tapes. minor detail i guess. as much as i love the fiittingly brutal medical atrocity imagery of the box i can't see the sense in not using naked pregnant chicks, butchered whores or that cover image from eyestrain... that shit is the best... and it just would feel like a more complete picture to me.
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: FreakAnimalFinland on August 11, 2017, 04:04:01 PM
It took me a while to get started. But once first disc was playing, next thing I notice, I'm already at 7th... That's close to 8 hours of Skin Crime, and there's absolute no feeling of there being too much. Each disc so far has very clear own elements. Of course many of them are formerly familiar. Eyestrain, or ultra brutal Whorebutcher, it's very recognizeable. I'm basically 1/3 done, so lets see where it goes....
Compliments for packaging and presentation too.

One thing what makes me curious, around 20 minutes mark on 2nd track of BURN (disc #7), it sounds so clear that should I make this assumption: Aunt Mary piece is used in processed material of Skin Crime. Not credited, perhaps in a way like BLOD or Macronympha or Emil Beaulieau has done. Just using someone's source material to mutilate it to become their own. Aunt Mary has such a distinctive guitar effect and sloppy blast, that while it is certainly buried there in mix, I'm rather sure that it is down there. Anyone else noticed it?

One could always complain why box set. Why so massive box set. Individual discs would most likely get more play than entire set. However, it is fact that if you start to issue series of discs, it works out for perhaps 3... maybe 4. Already 5th will be guaranteed to be on edge where most people will think do they need this many discs. And if yes, do they need it now or sometime later. It's like the jazkamer/jazzkammer monthly series. Fucking brilliant discs, but having discs appear month apart, pretty soon there was merely feeling ... again?!

To have everything in neat box, good sounging, good looking, it is really the best way to put out this scale of body of work.
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: collapsedhole on August 13, 2017, 02:51:32 AM
http://www.ticketweb.com/t3/sale/SaleEventDetail?eventId=7583485&pl=warsaw&dispatch=loadSelectionData

i hate godflesh, but shit, fucking skin crime live!
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: absurdexposition on August 13, 2017, 05:13:49 AM
Quote from: collapsedhole on August 13, 2017, 02:51:32 AM
http://www.ticketweb.com/t3/sale/SaleEventDetail?eventId=7583485&pl=warsaw&dispatch=loadSelectionData

i hate godflesh, but shit, fucking skin crime live!

The rest of the fest doesn't really do it for me so I can't justify the trip just to see Skin Crime, but it did cross my mind...
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: bitewerksMTB on August 15, 2017, 05:06:28 AM
Quote from: absurdexposition on August 13, 2017, 05:13:49 AM
Quote from: collapsedhole on August 13, 2017, 02:51:32 AM
http://www.ticketweb.com/t3/sale/SaleEventDetail?eventId=7583485&pl=warsaw&dispatch=loadSelectionData

i hate godflesh, but shit, fucking skin crime live!

The rest of the fest doesn't really do it for me so I can't justify the trip just to see Skin Crime, but it did cross my mind...

Patrick sitting in front of an amp on the floor with his back to the audience would be well worth your time! You can snap photos of his dreadlocks (if he still has them).
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: terminus01 on August 16, 2017, 10:52:03 AM
this fest should really be called "the last two years or so of hospital productions."
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: FreakAnimalFinland on August 23, 2017, 08:39:07 AM
Been so much on other tasks, but box listening was completed! I may be in conclusion that this is possible the best major noise box I have listened so far. Incapacitants boxes, well, yeah. Hijokaidan 30xCD box, of course... I don't say those would be bad. But when completing for example Hijokaidan, it felt like "finally". Being great - but also exhausting. Listening more than 1 discs a day makes me wonder if something else between. With Skin Crime box, I listened even up to 5 CD's, that's around 7 hours straight non-stop Skin Crime punishing and felt like if days were just longer, more could be done. After box was completed, still feels like there could be another bunch of discs.

Think of TG24 of TG+ boxsets, and I have yet to even listen either one though. Perphaps now after over decade, also Merzbow would finally be listened with proper attention.

Conclusion is that there is basically one less exciting disc. Couple which are not as good as rest. Most of the 20 are on level that it's not about making historical documentation, but purely about making KILLER NOISE RELEASE. It is quality what all boxes don't have. 100% recommended release!
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: 13 on October 19, 2017, 06:35:50 PM
Now that some of you have had the box for some time, were there any specific recordings that surprised you?
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: aububs on October 19, 2017, 09:36:41 PM
is the box still available from anywhere?
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: FreakAnimalFinland on October 19, 2017, 09:52:05 PM
Quote from: 13 on October 19, 2017, 06:35:50 PM
Now that some of you have had the box for some time, were there any specific recordings that surprised you?

Not specific recordings. I think that is exactly the surprise: Consistency of the box. The fact that is so good, for pretty much every disc, and pretty much all the time. If some part of release is not absolutely greatest, its function seems to build up next great thing. But there is pretty much zero of "historical documents" and novelty discs. Not like Merzbox that starts with couple discs of utmost crap. This goes straight to the point.

Availability... I guess one needs to check discogs.
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: aububs on October 19, 2017, 10:13:04 PM
yeah i see one on discogs...might have to go with that
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: acsenger on February 18, 2018, 10:46:38 AM
Any impressions about the new CD, Ghosts I Have Been?
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: david lloyd jones on February 27, 2018, 04:24:43 PM
Quote from: acsenger on February 18, 2018, 10:46:38 AM
Any impressions about the new CD, Ghosts I Have Been?
from the artwork on.
great album.
inclusive of recent tapes, there is a deep psychedelic quality to the sounds-as in cosmic horror that the covers relate to.
this is not a hippy bliss but darker, stranger in tone.hpl, as ever but also arthur machen and william hope hodgeson
can't wait for more of this type of stuff.
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: acsenger on February 27, 2018, 08:49:21 PM
Quote from: david lloyd jones on February 27, 2018, 04:24:43 PM
Quote from: acsenger on February 18, 2018, 10:46:38 AM
Any impressions about the new CD, Ghosts I Have Been?
from the artwork on.
great album.
inclusive of recent tapes, there is a deep psychedelic quality to the sounds-as in cosmic horror that the covers relate to.
this is not a hippy bliss but darker, stranger in tone.hpl, as ever but also arthur machen and william hope hodgeson
can't wait for more of this type of stuff.

Thanks. I had the same impression when I listened to the sound samples I found on the net. Hopefully a European distro/Discogs seller will be selling it soon.
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: impulse manslaughter on February 27, 2018, 08:53:28 PM
Love the artwork. Looking forward to play this..
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: FreakAnimalFinland on August 10, 2018, 07:35:51 PM
I'm not big fan of artwork of the album. I appreciate artwork - if context would be for example horror book cover or comics etc. Definitely professional to that standard, yet as for "noise CD artwork", just doesn't resonate to me.
This is the new Skin Crime approach, which is very much the obscure and haunting sounds, bleak and hand made creaking and such... Yet, album far from best Skin Crime. I appreciate it to be different than for example glorious CD box set. It makes it worthy item, as it offers something different as addition to the past albums.

Yet, I'm sort of tempted to criticism that while it is different compared to past Skin Crime, what about a lot of recent other Self Abuse items? Lets say, listen to Hanged Mans Orgasm "Mystery" and "Secrets" tapes and Scar Crowe "A Gold Nights Death" and so on.... and it is like... hmmm... why the different projects, when each of them suddenly turn into seemingly same? I think sense of side projects is to explore things (sound or content, or their combination) that one could not feel to be suitable for the main project. With this case, each of the project seems to be taking pretty much exact same route of suffocating and haunting piezzo crackles and eeries sounds and eventually bursts of noise. None of them are bad. No. That is not my argument. What kind of bugs me, that there is barely possibility to say why and how each of the project now stands apart?!

I know someone can sigh what a load of crap coming from guy with dozen sex noise projects, hah... but to me best of Skin Crime is absolute blasting harsh greatness, while HMO and the rest has been... different. Now his other new project LP was probably better noise release than Skin Crime and different enough to stand as good addition to SC discography.

Nevertheless... None of these releases are something I'd sell away, at least not yet. Ghastly contact mic crackling and humming and sudden noises - in wholeness, still rather unique although not absolute masterpieces.
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: acsenger on August 11, 2018, 03:04:34 AM
How's the Skin Crime/Wilt LP+CD? I have high hopes for it based on the sound sample on Urashima's Soundcloud page.
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: Theodore on August 11, 2018, 03:16:48 PM
Anyone knows if this is another project of him too ? https://www.discogs.com/artist/4463271-TTitL . Sound so, like Scar Crowe / HMO, he has added them at Discogs and was the only seller.

Agree with everything Mikko wrote. I actually had a short discussion about this with another guy some time ago. I -or he, don't remember- was "complaining" about how these latest releases of Scar Crowe and HMO, without being bad, sound similar to each other to the point that if you have a couple of them you don't need the rest, they don't add much, if anything at all. I concluded with my guess that each of these releases is so limited, 30-40 copies [?] , that seem like a decision of instead leave much of material out and do a big edition of the best of it, release almost all of it in small editions. If that happened makes some sense since indeed all material is good enough, and i can't easily pick a fav from those i have listened.

If i push myself i can find small differences between the projects. Scar Crowe is the atmosphere. HMO adds some -little- noise on it. - Phocomelus is my preference, noise-pure-just. - Skin Crime new releases is the sum of all.
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: impulse manslaughter on August 14, 2018, 11:25:55 AM
Quote from: acsenger on August 11, 2018, 03:04:34 AM
How's the Skin Crime/Wilt LP+CD? I have high hopes for it based on the sound sample on Urashima's Soundcloud page.

Listened to this yesterday. Personally i was not very impressed after first listen. More atmospheric drone stuff. Have to give a few more spins..
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: FreakAnimalFinland on August 14, 2018, 07:33:33 PM
I have only listened LP, not the CD yet. It is indeed more subtle dark ambient works. Logical assumption would be that WILT does the keyboard tones and Skin Crime does his current quiet/eerie scratching sounds and acoustics on the top. It's not bad, but just seems very very easy. Not like tones would be somehow adventurous and experimental, and Skin Craft role is... just as I commented few messages back, doing what he is currently doing. Nevertheless, it's decent thing to put on background, and at least B-side works better than A-side, so perhaps CD will be further advanced...
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: MyrtleLake on August 15, 2018, 01:15:15 AM
My take on the current output:

Skin Crime = Patrick O'Neil working with various other people.  All other listed projects are Patrick working alone.

Phocomelus = Intricately composed noise work, in studio, no (at least, identifiable) field recordings.

Hanged Mans Orgasm = Field recording work overlaid with various elements of noise.  Atmospheric... almost an "ambient" take on Skin Crime.  The most current work, "Dissociation" (2018) adds a subtle element of synth or melody far back in the mix... perhaps a development influenced by working with Wilt.  More intentionally composed works in relation to Scar Crowe, albeit with the same quiet, haunting, atmospheric underpinning.

Scar Crowe = All but entirely derived from field recordings.  Very minor additions of manipulated elements in comparison to HMO.

*The only release that doesn't really fit my assumptions is "Unknowns," listed as Prurient / Hanged Mans Orgasm.  There are multiple artists involved in that release, including Alberich.  This makes me wonder how involved in the final product Patrick was as opposed to providing material that was then worked over without much direct input from Mr. O'Neil.  Thus, HMO instead of Skin Crime.  I have no idea; this is all conjecture on my part.  The Hospital Productions album, "Ghosts I Have Been," and the other recent (earlier, 1998) release, "The House on the Cliff" contain no credits at all.  If Skin Crime derived from others' input there than solely Patrick, we are left to guess.  Only SI Clark is credited for the artwork.

Skin Crime X Wilt. "The Horror of Fang Rock" 12" w/ CD:
The vinyl recording has a more subdued sound than the CD overall.  In fact, the recording is so minimal on the vinyl that I consider it more of an object, with the inevitable cracks and pops of playback being an intentional, meaningful aspect to the listening experience.  Please do not misconstrue that statement to mean that the pressing is poor.  My turntable falls somewhere between professional "hi-fi" setup and "junk." I spend far more time playing records on it than meticulously cleaning them or obsessing over the needle.  Cracks and pops are inevitable due to my habits.  The vintage aspect of the artwork's time period fits into the gramophone sound concept.  The "Horror of Fang Rock" is a 1977 episode of the British television show Dr. Who set in "the south coast of England in the early 20th century." (Wikipedia)

The CD, on the other hand, is more about the recording—the composition; the subtlety in atmosphere, ambience and sounds.  I find it far more engaging than the vinyl recording, and it climaxes into the last track on the CD where the tension finally breaks loose and the volume opens to full, noise splendor.  The catharsis after nearly an hour of playback is welcome and resplendent.

A question, though...  hmmm... does anyone else with the CD have digital artifacts on playback of the last track??  Mine does.  They ruin the entire experience.  Disappointing.
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: bitewerksMTB on August 15, 2018, 04:42:44 AM
In an email from Patrick, he told me that each project varies in recording methods and that the SC material is all from past sessions. I assumed they were recording new material.

I haven't heard anything from HMO other than a lathe 7" from a long damn time ago...
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: FreakAnimalFinland on August 22, 2018, 04:49:47 PM
Prurient / Hanged Mans Orgasm LP
Hospital Productions

This is probably the best Skin Crime related materials of recent times. Not sure who it is to thank to - or just all the parties involved. Field recordings are thanks to Patrick, not sure who did all the extensive short-wave radio sounds. Vocals, synth tones and such of course thanks to Prurient. Somehow this managed to be better than Rainbow Mirror, or HMO's own stuff, and also way better than WILT/Skin Crime.
Sticker says it is "produced by Kris Lapke", so not sure if he is the guy responsible to make it sound very good. Multi-layered, but in perfect balance and tone. There is actual sense of composition, but also to fine detail of each sound element.

Starts with radio signals, slowly emerges bassy tone behind everything and strongly reverbed whispering vocals, that seems like attempt to escape the typical rhythm of Prurient vocal delivery. Composition of the side is simple, but good texture that operates on several level, keeps minimal composition interesting.
B-side is equally slow, yet building colossal physical noise rumbles to finish the album. It happens after long piece of droning synths, voice loops and radiosignals.
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: FreakAnimalFinland on August 23, 2018, 04:13:12 PM
Skin Crime X Wilt. "The Horror of Fang Rock" 12" w/ CD:
A question, though...  hmmm... does anyone else with the CD have digital artifacts on playback of the last track??  Mine does.  They ruin the entire experience.  Disappointing.
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Hmm.. what type of digital artifacts? As this material seems to use quite a lot of "glitches". Some of it first sounded as if it was clicks and pops of badly burned CDR, but soon you'd notice they are actually part of track, including echoes and such applied to them.
Last track has plenty of contact microphone crackles what I mentioned before. There is plenty of that in new Skin Crime and related stuff.
Last track is the noisiest and best of whole set. In general, LP is way less interesting than the CD. If cut down to 60 minutes in total, I feel this 40 mins LP + 74 mins CD would probably have much better impact.
At least on my CD player, there isn't any skipping or such things.
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: Zeno Marx on August 23, 2018, 08:54:27 PM
Check the bandcamp page(s).  Might be possible to reference those tracks there.
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: MyrtleLake on August 27, 2018, 12:10:02 AM
Hanged Mans Orgasm. "Dissociation" CS
Self Abuse Records

Side A:  A slow, measured breathing.  The blowing of air over a microphone.  The sparkle of tiny, flittering stars through electrical sparks.  A creaking, muffled, fizzling whimper of electrons drowning.  Behind it all, a lilting, unifying synth line...  repeated over, and over, and over—sometimes warbling as if affected by the wind.

Scratches, not disruptive but curious.  What is it?  They?  Is something moving in this barren, nighttime scene?  The earth is breathing life into the landscape and the bugs, the rocks, the dirt achieve equal life.  I am reminded of crickets—sometimes cicadas—in a communicative collusion which does not involve me.  They interact despite my listening. I walk upstairs.  The breathing, the bass rumble, is akin to my house's foundation come alive.  It is a perfect analogous pace to a calm, thoughtful breath.  Returning downstairs to the stereo, I find this relaxing with an implication of magic in its composition.  Side A ends.

Side B:  The second side opens with a larger void.  Sounds of emptiness as filtered through the language of dark ambient.  Contrarily, the rhythm is faster paced.  More mechanical than electrical or sentient.  Soft, vintage sci-fi sounds flutter into the musical lyric.  More metal, electric groaning lost in the underlayment.  Flittering sounds that bring to mind insects unseen in the night.  The source recording material bears no direct relation to such things, I am convinced.

Muffled electro-acoustic music concrete which impresses that something, somewhere out there, is moving amidst the atmosphere.  Sounds with vivid relation to mental imagery to my ears.  At times, perhaps the electricity is trying to communicate, or move its rusting boulders intentionally.  It wishes to uncover itself in fleeting, clearer, louder enunciations.  The messages and intent is ambiguous.  Not malicious but unsettling to those who do not comprehend the play.

The cassette closes with the distorted sounds' obscurity lifting a shade.  A cautiously uplifting, pleasant synth line signals the approaching, comforting, dawn twilight.
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: PedestrianOrgans on August 27, 2018, 12:45:43 AM
I'm surprised there's not more thoughts on Phocomelus, personally I love all of what I've heard of that project.

Best Skin Crime obviously "King of the Deathmatch"
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: MyrtleLake on August 27, 2018, 03:35:15 AM
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on August 23, 2018, 04:13:12 PM
Skin Crime X Wilt. "The Horror of Fang Rock" 12" w/ CD:
Hmm.. what type of digital artifacts?
...
If cut down to 60 minutes in total, I feel this 40 mins LP + 74 mins CD would probably have much better impact.

The CD was bought brand new and looked perfect: no scratches, no smudges, no fingerprints. After your reply, I meticulously washed and cleaned it anyway.  Problem solved.  Weird.  It was skipping at a few specific points is a better way to describe it.  Must have been something on there I couldn't readily see.

I can agree that the length of the full release is over-the-top. Even though the first two CD tracks are suspiciously 19:52 each, they differ from the LP.  The release is 2 hours of original compositions.  It could easily be split into three full length albums of ~40 min each:  (1) LP (2) First two tracks on CD (3) Remaining tracks on CD. Breaking it up that way as a listener is useful, I might suggest.
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: MyrtleLake on August 27, 2018, 06:33:26 PM
Phocomelus
An idiosyncratic perspective on the entire project...
***
Higher pitched squealing: hi-hats keeping it moving.
Middle range squawk: energetic, impassioned guitar solo à la Hendrix.
Lower range thumping: heavy metal, doom-laden guitar... sped up.
Bottom rumble: highly distorted, fuzz box bass guitar rhythm.
***
This is a sound for metal-heads, headbangers and groove junkies. There is no direct correlation in instrumentation; this is harsh noise through and through. The energy, spirit and groove justifies the metaphor. Every Phocomelus release follows the above wig out formula. Some of them really grab me. Others feel more sterile. It's a personal thing, impossible to explain. The tone and compositional aspect of the various albums deviate next to none. The result is original in the spectrum of harsh noise. Each track is a highly complex, tight, focused composition with multiple, detailed elements to focus on with each listen.  While that may be the case for many noise artists, Phocomelus manages to sound entirely different.
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: Zeno Marx on September 03, 2018, 11:37:54 PM
Quote from: acsenger on February 18, 2018, 10:46:38 AM
Any impressions about the new CD, Ghosts I Have Been?
I like this period (is it a period?) of Skin Crime A LOT.  Eerie, organic industrialism with a shit-ton of ambiance.  There are times when it sounds like Hands To/Jeph Jerman is providing the source material, and that type of association can't be a bad thing in my opinion.
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: SiClark on September 04, 2018, 12:42:49 AM
I really love the latest Skin Crime albums but I currently going through the boxed set again and the harshness of the ones I have I listened to so far is beautiful but I listen to the Ghosts... and House on the Cliff the most. Two recent tapes are goddamn lovely as well.

20xCD box is available digitally now for anyone who is interested -

https://hospitalproductions.bandcamp.com/album/case-studies-in-early-taxidermy-techniques
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: pentd on April 17, 2019, 12:57:35 AM
i hope one day emerges a graphic novel / mega comic book following the meanderings of anal speciman

skin crime's interesting material seems to be in the less noisier and more concrete works, i enjoy the "what are they building in there?!?!" element most
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: Eigen Bast on July 02, 2019, 09:13:00 PM
Anyone have the Legacy of Blood tape released at the Hospital showcase? Hoping it will eventually be available for order.
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: absurdexposition on July 02, 2019, 11:38:59 PM
Sold out at the fest but Patrick will be making more copies.
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: DSOL on July 03, 2019, 12:03:30 AM
Quote from: absurdexposition on July 02, 2019, 11:38:59 PM
Sold out at the fest but Patrick will be making more copies.

good to know
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: PedestrianOrgans on July 03, 2019, 03:31:17 AM
Quote from: absurdexposition on July 02, 2019, 11:38:59 PM
Sold out at the fest but Patrick will be making more copies.

I got a copy from Pat directly and yeah, he said he's working on getting them up on Discogs.

It's a fantastic tape though, very in line with the "House On the Cliff" and "Ghosts I Have Been". Slooooowly creeping sounds that never quite reach the intensity of older Skin Crime material. What he gives up in sheer harshness though, he makes up for with eerie programmaticism and a beautiful clarity of the layerings and sounds involved. If you like either of those previous releases this one will really really impress you, I think.
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: bitewerksMTB on July 03, 2019, 08:29:52 PM
I ordered a copy from Patrick. I think he said there's another SC tape coming soon or it may actually be ready but it wasn't in time for the L.A. performance.

Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: MyrtleLake on November 08, 2019, 03:30:01 AM
Oh my!

Skin Crime: Traveller on the Road
http://hospitalproductions.bandcamp.com/album/traveller-on-the-road
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: bitewerksMTB on November 08, 2019, 04:24:29 AM
Good news on the LP & I know there is a tape or two coming that he's waiting on to go into production (along with Mania "Hardly Lethal") plus another title.
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: MyrtleLake on November 09, 2019, 07:08:41 PM
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on November 08, 2019, 04:24:29 AM
Good news on the LP...

Am I to understand that Traveller on the Road is to be a vinyl release? There seems to be no indication of that on the Hospital website or Bandcamp page.
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: totalblack on November 09, 2019, 07:36:39 PM
Quote from: MyrtleLake on November 09, 2019, 07:08:41 PM
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on November 08, 2019, 04:24:29 AM
Good news on the LP...

Am I to understand that Traveller on the Road is to be a vinyl release? There seems to be no indication of that on the Hospital website or Bandcamp page.

It's only available through Boomkat. I've got a box of copies on the way now which will be less expensive internationally than ordering from them.

Samples sound really good, looking forward to playing the whole thing. The last few tapes have been great
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: MyrtleLake on November 09, 2019, 09:21:58 PM
Quote from: totalblack on November 09, 2019, 07:36:39 PM
It's only available through Boomkat.

Thanks for the clarification and upcoming stocking of them. Hospital Prod.'s arrangements, though, make no sense to me on this one.
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: SiClark on November 10, 2019, 01:14:45 AM
Quote from: MyrtleLake on November 09, 2019, 07:08:41 PM
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on November 08, 2019, 04:24:29 AM
Good news on the LP...

Am I to understand that Traveller on the Road is to be a vinyl release? There seems to be no indication of that on the Hospital website or Bandcamp page.

For some reason certain Hospital releases are only mentioned on Boomkat. I think there are other distributors but Boomkat is the main one.
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: SiClark on November 10, 2019, 01:16:04 AM
The new LP is really great by the way. I have listened to it many times. Very slow and brooding tracks and very beautiful.
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: dust on November 10, 2019, 03:28:51 AM
Quote from: MyrtleLake on November 09, 2019, 07:08:41 PM
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on November 08, 2019, 04:24:29 AM
Good news on the LP...

Am I to understand that Traveller on the Road is to be a vinyl release? There seems to be no indication of that on the Hospital website or Bandcamp page.

https://boomkat.com/products/traveller-on-the-road

Clear Vinyl, edition of 300 copies. Mastered and cut at D&M Berlin
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: Eigen Bast on November 10, 2019, 09:27:50 PM
It should show up @ forced exposure soon enough
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: totalblack on November 14, 2019, 02:28:49 PM
Quote from: Si Clark on November 10, 2019, 01:16:04 AM
The new LP is really great by the way. I have listened to it many times. Very slow and brooding tracks and very beautiful.

Agreed, just got copies this morning- really fantastic work, borders on musique concrète at times.
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: theworldisawarfilm on November 14, 2019, 05:05:29 PM
 Was a little late checking it out but I was absolutely floored by Ghosts I Have Been. Perfectly restrained approach which I am a huge fan of. Total masterpiece. Going to give Traveller... a listen right now.
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: Eigen Bast on November 15, 2019, 05:15:35 PM
Ghosts... edges out Traveller... for me simply out of personal taste, though I look forward to hearing Traveller... on a proper system that can bring out the sub bass. Definetly reminds me of Imperial Distortion at times though, just suffocating! I've been listening to a lot of Asmus Tiechens recently and the kernel of this kind of concrete dark ambient is strong in a lot of his works.
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: impulse manslaughter on November 16, 2019, 01:42:56 AM
Listening to the Ghosts I Have Been CD right now thanks to this thread. Even better than I remembered.. like a raw and gritty version of vintage Organum.
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: totalblack on November 22, 2019, 04:34:38 PM
I have copies of "A Legacy Of Blood" and "Lot No. 249" available now for anyone interested.
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: Eigen Bast on February 04, 2021, 04:34:09 PM
New "Tales from the Crypt" compilation sounds fantastic
https://hospitalproductions.net/collections/new-products-new/products/skin-crime-tales-from-the-crypt-2x-cassette
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: monster ripper on February 05, 2021, 04:04:30 PM
Self Abuse now has a bandcamp page up with some of the more recent Skin Crime releases.
https://selfabuserecords.bandcamp.com/ (https://selfabuserecords.bandcamp.com/)
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: Fistfuck Masonanie on February 06, 2021, 04:18:13 AM
Quote from: monster ripper on February 05, 2021, 04:04:30 PM
Self Abuse now has a bandcamp page up with some of the more recent Skin Crime releases.
https://selfabuserecords.bandcamp.com/ (https://selfabuserecords.bandcamp.com/)


Got the email earlier but found it confusing as there was no link, sounded like it wasn't finished yet. Glad to find Conqueror Worm and The Thing That Could Not Die! Appreciate the post.
Title: Re: Skin Crime
Post by: monster ripper on February 07, 2021, 03:27:45 PM


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Got the email earlier but found it confusing as there was no link, sounded like it wasn't finished yet. Glad to find Conqueror Worm and The Thing That Could Not Die! Appreciate the post.
[/quote]

Sorry, was in a rush to get that e-mail out before heading to work......glad you where able to find it anyways, thanks.
Title: Seeking Self Abuse / Skin Crime / HMO tapes for high dollar
Post by: mothwings on May 08, 2021, 11:25:23 AM
 Hi, I am a huge fan of all of Patrick O'Neil's work.  I am desperately searching for certain Skin Crime and Hanged Mans Orgasm tapes.  I do have a want-list on Discogs that notifies me when the tapes I want are available, but it is rare that these show up.  These are the specific tapes I would pay HIGH dollar for:

1.   Hanged Mans Orgasm - Hanged Mans Orgasm Debut (Self Abuse Records - SA-01) Cass, Num, C46 (1992)
2.   Skin Crime - Skin Crime (Not On Label (Skin Crime Self-released) - none)   Cass, Ltd, C30   (1997)
3.   HMO* / Skin Crime - An Autopsy Performed Upon The Living (Self Abuse Records - SAC-03) Cass, Ltd, Num, C60 (1994)
4.   Skin Crime - Whorebutcher (Mother Savage Noise Productions - none)   Cass, C60 + Box, Ltd (1996)   
5.   Skin Crime - Skin Crime (BRS Records - none) Cass, C15 (Uknown)
6.   Diagram A* - Guts:Render (Greenwood Electronic - none) 3xCass, C30 (2010)
7.   Skin Crime - King Of The Deathmatch (Spite (2) - SPITE55) Cass, Ltd, Num, C60 (1999)   
8.   Skin Crime - Urge (BloodLust! - B!019) Cass, Ltd, Num, C64 (1996)
9.   Skin Crime - Burn (Less Than Zero - LTZ024) Cass, Ltd, Num (1996)
10.   Skin Crime - Prenatal (Self Abuse Records - SAC-07) Cass, Ltd, Num, C60   (1994)
11.   Skin Crime - Eyestrain (Self Abuse Records - SAC-08) Cass, Ltd, Num, C62   (1995)
12.   Hanged Mans Orgasm - Misanthropia (Self Abuse Records - SAC-02) Cass, Num, C60 (Uknown)         
13.   Skin Crime - Trauma (Self Abuse Records - SAC-32) Cass, Ltd, Num, C30 (1996)   

You'll get 5 to 10 times more money from me than you will on Discogs.  Please, if anyone has any of the above rarities, please contact me and I will make it worth it.  Send me a private message and maybe we can also possibly trade!

Thanks!
Title: Re: Seeking Self Abuse / Skin Crime / HMO tapes for high dollar
Post by: mothwings on May 08, 2021, 05:12:55 PM
Quote from: accidental on May 08, 2021, 03:29:08 PM
Quote from: mothwings on May 08, 2021, 11:25:23 AM
You'll get 5 to 10 times more money from me than you will on Discogs. 

So Butcher will give me $745-1499?  Good to know next time i'm down and out.

For a couple of the titles i'm missing I can offer 10 times less money than this guy. But i guarantee they will be actually listened to, by a not so rich ears.

If you're that impatient and willing to spend i suggest contacting the man himself. If he would see the dollar signs i'm sure he'd sell it to you.


I talk to Patrick all the time.  He doesn't collect his own work.