Sometimes one thinks, how many releases can one label put out before it just gets "old". Despite being good, at some point one may not be as excited as for earlier ones. With 100 releases behind them, Posh Isolation just put out reissue of ""The Vanity Set" tape of DAMIEN DUBROVNIK as LP and new Puce Mary.
Vanity Set new packaging is great. Some of the most stylish "conceptual" art I have seen for ages and while I remember tape being good, this LP reminds it is good. 1st side long piece what still reminds kind of Pleasure Ground "Military Road" track kind of heavily distorted yet steady keyboard drone with crispy noises on top. B-side of album just gets better. Tracks are shorter and there are some very tasty noises.
However, new PUCE MARY is brilliant. Wasn't sure what to expect, but when I hit it to turntable, listened instantly twice. Hard distorted rhythms, vocals, tasty manual manipulation of effects. Gloomy ice cold drones... It's not like the synth-pop stuff. Musical elements are quite minimal. Perhaps not noisy enough to be lumped together with blatant noise or trad power electronics, but still atmosphere (to me) is closer to that, than any electro-pop, industrial dance muzak etc.
Some live stuff here, which certainly goes towards high energy heavy electronics:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubpAM16pjxQ
Album has more care for structure and individual sounds.
So... more danish projects with recent releases, and not just Posh Isolation camp? There is some upcoming Forza Albino what is great.. but well see when it hits the public.
is there a danish noise/pe/synth ect scene outside of posh isolation? i know of some smaller labels but they have ties with PI as well.any reviews for LR "brother"?? it was great catching a live puce mary set while she was in the US new tape she had with her was very good. looking forward to the lp.
now... some one needs to do a Caucasian Colony 7"
there are some non-posh-related noise acts performing in copenhagen, most of them centered around the DIY venue Mayhem. But label-wise, Posh Isolation is the most active one, besides it there are Dokumentarisk Agenda and Nordisk Klub, and then there's a new copenhagen-based noise label called Blodrøde Floder coming up.
Yep. Dokumentarisk Agenda has pretty solid discography. Not huge by numbers, but pretty much everything is worth to grab. Nordisk Klub site seems to be down. Not sure how active it is online, but several of good tapes came out. Many artists of label also known from Posh Isolation releases.
Don't know what Blodrøde Floder would be doing, but would be nice to see if it's label with own identity. Meaning not bands known from other labels, but profiling into something what represents mostly themselves.
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on August 16, 2013, 10:08:58 AM
So... more danish projects with recent releases, and not just Posh Isolation camp?
I'm not sure they're active anymore, but there's the Køleskab Dommedag CD-R label, run by one Jens H. Hansen. Seems the label was mainly a vehicle for putting out his own albums under the Vederstyggelig moniker. I ended up with a bunch of their releases in a trade, but must confess most of Vederstyggelig is way to one-dimensional for my taste but might appeal to HNW purists. Then there are also a few KD releases where Hansen collaborates with iD (i.e. Ashley Davies of Headbutt/Project Dark fame) that are much better... sporting a more varied style of noise, in their most inspired moments even approaching C.C.C.C. territory.
and there is this 'Rosensort' label which I do not know anything about. they apparently have not released anything in 2013
http://www.discogs.com/label/Rosensort
First release from Blodrøde Floder available now. Hvide Nætter - "Massernes Fremdrift" C21. New experimental/noise/industrial music from copenhagen. Orders through www.blodrodefloder.dk (http://www.blodrodefloder.dk)
When the hell is the upcoming Forza Albino getting released?!?
Tape is ready. 12" vinyl on its way from factory.
Soon!
looking forward for these two releases...
so... dumb question... which are the 10 must-have releases of the Danish scene?
I got several of the most known names, but I know I am missing some masterpieces
Quote from: tiny_tove on February 05, 2014, 10:46:10 AM
which are the 10 must-have releases of the Danish scene?
the three most essential to me is
Damien dubrovnik - Europa dagbog
Alleypisser - Sult
Croatian Amor - mermaids of jadransko
Quote from: tiny_tove on February 05, 2014, 10:46:10 AM
which are the 10 must-have releases of the Danish scene?
You only need LAID BACK "Hole in the sky".
Quote from: tiny_tove on February 05, 2014, 10:46:10 AM
looking forward for these two releases...
so... dumb question... which are the 10 must-have releases of the Danish scene?
I got several of the most known names, but I know I am missing some masterpieces
Hmm.. About two release, I assume you meant Forza Albino. Well tape and 12" are the same. "Black Dog" is released on two formats as some prefer cheaper option than vinyl is these days.. Actually vinyl arrived today. Just waiting to get Con-Dom LP covers finished and these will be ready for sale...
About best Danish releases. I think perhaps good element in Danish scene is that it doesn't really rely on few single highlights, but consistency of interesting releases. It's hard to pick up favorite release from most artists, but conclude each have very little weak moments. Damien Duprovnik, Alley Pisser, Forza Albino, Ashley C, LR, Puce Mary. That's probably favorites of mine.
I think Wäldchengarten belongs on a Danish top 10. Just popped Distractions into my CD player and this kind of ambient noise really is my thing. They predated the Posh Isolation crowd with a decade or so, and surely must've been an influence on the current crop of KPH bands.
thanks... I am already obsessed by: forza albino (looking forward for the new stuff... Including MIke's...) puce mary, ashley c, amien Dubrovnik (fantastic lp...)... will check for the rest
thanks!
If anyone is selling the Sexdrome 7" on PI let me know, thanks!
DOKUMENT #1 2xLP is pretty good document of the Denmark Posh Isolation related scene. I think I was there when the gatefold group photo was taken. Not in the photo of course, but in city. Seeing such large posse walking on street at once quite impressing. Double LP is mix of electronics, post-punk, power electronics, sort of "noiserock/black metal" kind of fusion. I can of course admit that for my liking, it's D.D., Forza Albino and Puce Mary and such who are the most interesting, but despite vast diversity of styles, atmosphere is good through-out entire double LP and especially if one has missed many of the small edition tapes of label, this is good overview. Very good quality vinyl, polylined innersleeves, booklet with photos, gatefold..
Maybe someone knows if the PUCE MARY "Success" LP will be re-released? Or released on CD?
I really hope that gets re-released. I am not paying £30 for it, or whatever the guy on discogs is trying to charge for it.
some talks of it, but when and by who, we'll have to wait and see.
Would be nice as i also missed that one and what i heard online sounds great..
https://special-interests.net/main/loke-rahbek-interview/
I must say the things he said in that interview was pretty dumb. I know many of the guys from that label and that scene and like much of it (especially Age Coin). I have listened to The Brainbombs since '96 (but did not see them back the day, but I did see the band they did a split with, Anal Babes), I first heard Merzbow on a Relapse CD around that time (which you could buy in many metal stores), I heard a Cold Meat Industry compilation CD early on (it was probably because of CMIs connection with Mortiis they were famous), and I know and have listened to all of the stuff that Special Interests writes about. I don't want to say that I don't like Posh Isolation if, say, some kid likes it and don't understand why I am "too old" to like it. But seriously... that is just too arrogant things to say. I pretend like I don't care, but when some hipster noise kid thinks I'm a "new one" or a "poser" because they have read Special Interests's badly written magazine... LOL.
Besides that, Leæther Strip was 5x times as famous back in the day (although I am not the biggest EBM fan).
On the topic of Danish industrial... I have been really into the output of Martin Schacke lately, head of the Moral Defeat label. I have yet to hear a project of his that doesn't deliver top quality: Prostitutes of the 19th Century, Body Stress, Haraam, and even his club output under "Schacke".
I'm not sure where this scene fits into the grand scheme of things being an observer from America, but I enjoy everything surrounding it: Instruments of Discipline, the project Iron Sight is very solid and the Hellenic industrial techno from Restive Plagonna and his Several Minor Promises label is also top notch. I don't know if "rave/techno culture" and industrial even intersect in American music aside from the random mallcore aggrotech bands but this is my shit.
Brutalist Tapes is another small Danish label I've found on Bandcamp that always delivers. Varulv uses obviously very modern (modular?) synths to very interesting effect, and that Forgotten Youth release is great apocalyptic folk.
http://topos.media/topos04.html
This could be fun!
The Den Jyske Harsh Noise Mafia + related acts/festivals/zines/etc are great but I guess most of you pro-fa types wouldn't be into their stuff anyway.
Recently I have enjoyed the latest releases from SEKTION1 and Brutalist Tapes, from Copenhagen.
Quote from: teenagelightning on September 06, 2019, 08:54:06 PM
Recently I have enjoyed the latest releases from SEKTION1 and Brutalist Tapes, from Copenhagen.
I was just listening to the Carnal Exhibition tape. It is really well done lofi Industrial PE. The subdued synths give the tape an eerie feel that does justice to the theme. The other SEKTION1 releases were also good. Its cool to see PE/Industrial being done in Denmark again since Posh Isolation have moved on to something else.
Quote from: W.K. on September 06, 2019, 07:07:00 PM
Quote from: Lysergikon137 on September 05, 2019, 02:30:23 PM
On the topic of Danish industrial... I have been really into the output of Martin Schacke lately
Yeah same, hope he will continue with Moral Defeat and his more noise related projects (especially liking Haraam) and not focus on his Schacke output only.
I think I remember reading somewhere (perhaps the Moral Defeat Facebook page) that he was essentially finished with that. The Schacke stuff is a somewhat guilty pleasure so I'd be bummed if that's where his main focus ends up. Thankfully he does seem to still be releasing material as Prostitutes of the 19th Century, the last release on on Modern Decadence is incredible.
https://moderndecadence.bandcamp.com/album/crepuscular-nature-in-an-era-of-arrogance
In the vein of Haraam, the two tribal techno tapes Moral Defeat put out by Sortlegeme are in a league of their own. Unfortunately that project went into industrial drone territory that is not the same quality as the techno releases, but very worth checking out. Referred to as Danish but i don't think Schacke is behind that one.
Quote from: Lysergikon137 on September 07, 2019, 04:38:21 PM
Quote from: W.K. on September 06, 2019, 07:07:00 PM
Quote from: Lysergikon137 on September 05, 2019, 02:30:23 PM
On the topic of Danish industrial... I have been really into the output of Martin Schacke lately
Yeah same, hope he will continue with Moral Defeat and his more noise related projects (especially liking Haraam) and not focus on his Schacke output only.
I think I remember reading somewhere (perhaps the Moral Defeat Facebook page) that he was essentially finished with that. The Schacke stuff is a somewhat guilty pleasure so I'd be bummed if that's where his main focus ends up. Thankfully he does seem to still be releasing material as Prostitutes of the 19th Century, the last release on on Modern Decadence is incredible.
https://moderndecadence.bandcamp.com/album/crepuscular-nature-in-an-era-of-arrogance
In the vein of Haraam, the two tribal techno tapes Moral Defeat put out by Sortlegeme are in a league of their own. Unfortunately that project went into industrial drone territory that is not the same quality as the techno releases, but very worth checking out. Referred to as Danish but i don't think Schacke is behind that one.
Sortlegeme guy is not Schacke, you are right. This guy is also involved in Clinical Traits - industrial ambient/concrete music stuff. Cheers for the nice words about Brutalist! Edit: BTW, Body Stress is playing in Copenhagen in two weeks, don't know if that means project will be more active from now on? I must admit I doubt it, as far as I know he is pretty much 100 % commited to techno now..
Quote from: brutalist_tapes on September 08, 2019, 03:40:14 PM
Quote from: Lysergikon137 on September 07, 2019, 04:38:21 PM
Quote from: W.K. on September 06, 2019, 07:07:00 PM
Quote from: Lysergikon137 on September 05, 2019, 02:30:23 PM
On the topic of Danish industrial... I have been really into the output of Martin Schacke lately
Yeah same, hope he will continue with Moral Defeat and his more noise related projects (especially liking Haraam) and not focus on his Schacke output only.
I think I remember reading somewhere (perhaps the Moral Defeat Facebook page) that he was essentially finished with that. The Schacke stuff is a somewhat guilty pleasure so I'd be bummed if that's where his main focus ends up. Thankfully he does seem to still be releasing material as Prostitutes of the 19th Century, the last release on on Modern Decadence is incredible.
https://moderndecadence.bandcamp.com/album/crepuscular-nature-in-an-era-of-arrogance
In the vein of Haraam, the two tribal techno tapes Moral Defeat put out by Sortlegeme are in a league of their own. Unfortunately that project went into industrial drone territory that is not the same quality as the techno releases, but very worth checking out. Referred to as Danish but i don't think Schacke is behind that one.
Sortlegeme guy is not Schacke, you are right. This guy is also involved in Clinical Traits - industrial ambient/concrete music stuff. Cheers for the nice words about Brutalist! Edit: BTW, Body Stress is playing in Copenhagen in two weeks, don't know if that means project will be more active from now on? I must admit I doubt it, as far as I know he is pretty much 100 % commited to techno now..
Huh, thanks for the insight. I was gonna say, based on the Kisloty Forever EP I had a feeling Schacke was committing to club culture for the time being. Regardless, I enjoyed the rest while it lasted. Do you have any links to the Clinical Traits stuff? Having a hard time finding anything on Bandcamp etc.
Is there actually a scene in Denmark now? By that I mean one where there's interaction between projects and labels. Are there gigs and venues where live events happen? Do any of the mentioned projects have local or national following or is it all happening in isolation?
Quote from: GEWALTMONOPOL on September 09, 2019, 01:35:30 AM
Is there actually a scene in Denmark now? By that I mean one where there's interaction between projects and labels. Are there gigs and venues where live events happen? Do any of the mentioned projects have local or national following or is it all happening in isolation?
it is pretty much me and my good friend, at least here in the copenhagen area, who is running sektion 1. then there is a crowd of people that are sympathetic to what we do and let us do shows, but they mostly do some kind of black metal, punk or industrial techno-thing, themselves. after moral defeat practically stopped we are the only ones doing strictly PE/noise. sektion 1 has done two shows so far - mk9/rusalka + support and blackwatch/sarin snow/the wilderness by support. i would like to set up shows at some point, but haven't done it so far - but as i said, i work closely w/sektion 1 in some cases, although it is separate entities. to lysergikon: i am also having trouble finding it, will notice him of it.
First message of topic was posted 6 years ago. Things appear to have changed since then quite drastically. I think there are gigs happening in Mayhem. Just like the mentioned Blackwatch, Sarin Snow, etc gig.
After Posh Isolation changed to be mostly dance music or software electronics, I have not been following releases at all. Like expressed in the message 6 years ago, there was question whether label could have stayed interesting making same kind of releases, year after year. Who knows, but certainly that style remained interesting for more than hundred releases. Sound nor aesthetics what they have now, doesn't resonate with my taste.
Puce Mary album finally came out not so long ago, and I tend to think it is still good stuff.
Hard to say should it be labeled Danish or Swedish supremacy, but that Cortex A9: Basic Housekeeping - Order. LP is probably the best thing I have heard in 2019! It is Dan of Sewer Electrion, Puce Mary and 3rd guy I am not very familiar with. The noisiest, the most ripping, yet "musically constructed" industrial noise. Musically constructed meaning that every track has clear idea, excellent most painful and decaying sound giving it form. Vocals. Rhythms. I would give reference of mixing old Whitehouse and early days SJ with sonic qualities of "tape noise", yet coming up with songs as opposed to sheer noise.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1W24fjrGoQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXynIgc0J4g
There are several tracks on album, some with more rhythmic noises. Each song different, but one should get the point. LP sound more dirtier and ripping.
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on September 10, 2019, 08:34:36 AM
Hard to say should it be labeled Danish or Swedish supremacy, but that Cortex A9: Basic Housekeeping - Order. LP is probably the best thing I have heard in 2019! It is Dan of Sewer Electrion, Puce Mary and 3rd guy I am not very familiar with. The noisiest, the most ripping, yet "musically constructed" industrial noise. Musically constructed meaning that every track has clear idea, excellent most painful and decaying sound giving it form. Vocals. Rhythms. I would give reference of mixing old Whitehouse and early days SJ with sonic qualities of "tape noise", yet coming up with songs as opposed to sheer noise.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1W24fjrGoQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXynIgc0J4g
There are several tracks on album, some with more rhythmic noises. Each song different, but one should get the point. LP sound more dirtier and ripping.
this REALLY hits the spot.
Quote from: NaturalOrthodoxy on September 12, 2019, 11:52:51 AM
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on September 10, 2019, 08:34:36 AM
Hard to say should it be labeled Danish or Swedish supremacy, but that Cortex A9: Basic Housekeeping - Order. LP is probably the best thing I have heard in 2019! It is Dan of Sewer Electrion, Puce Mary and 3rd guy I am not very familiar with. The noisiest, the most ripping, yet "musically constructed" industrial noise. Musically constructed meaning that every track has clear idea, excellent most painful and decaying sound giving it form. Vocals. Rhythms. I would give reference of mixing old Whitehouse and early days SJ with sonic qualities of "tape noise", yet coming up with songs as opposed to sheer noise.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1W24fjrGoQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXynIgc0J4g
There are several tracks on album, some with more rhythmic noises. Each song different, but one should get the point. LP sound more dirtier and ripping.
this REALLY hits the spot.
Wow! Yes!
Quote from: Lysergikon137 on September 08, 2019, 11:05:22 PM
Quote from: brutalist_tapes on September 08, 2019, 03:40:14 PM
Quote from: Lysergikon137 on September 07, 2019, 04:38:21 PM
Quote from: W.K. on September 06, 2019, 07:07:00 PM
Quote from: Lysergikon137 on September 05, 2019, 02:30:23 PM
On the topic of Danish industrial... I have been really into the output of Martin Schacke lately
Yeah same, hope he will continue with Moral Defeat and his more noise related projects (especially liking Haraam) and not focus on his Schacke output only.
I think I remember reading somewhere (perhaps the Moral Defeat Facebook page) that he was essentially finished with that. The Schacke stuff is a somewhat guilty pleasure so I'd be bummed if that's where his main focus ends up. Thankfully he does seem to still be releasing material as Prostitutes of the 19th Century, the last release on on Modern Decadence is incredible.
https://moderndecadence.bandcamp.com/album/crepuscular-nature-in-an-era-of-arrogance
In the vein of Haraam, the two tribal techno tapes Moral Defeat put out by Sortlegeme are in a league of their own. Unfortunately that project went into industrial drone territory that is not the same quality as the techno releases, but very worth checking out. Referred to as Danish but i don't think Schacke is behind that one.
Sortlegeme guy is not Schacke, you are right. This guy is also involved in Clinical Traits - industrial ambient/concrete music stuff. Cheers for the nice words about Brutalist! Edit: BTW, Body Stress is playing in Copenhagen in two weeks, don't know if that means project will be more active from now on? I must admit I doubt it, as far as I know he is pretty much 100 % commited to techno now..
Huh, thanks for the insight. I was gonna say, based on the Kisloty Forever EP I had a feeling Schacke was committing to club culture for the time being. Regardless, I enjoyed the rest while it lasted. Do you have any links to the Clinical Traits stuff? Having a hard time finding anything on Bandcamp etc.
Not on bandcamp. But here is a soundcloud link https://soundcloud.com/sektion1recordings (https://soundcloud.com/sektion1recordings)
Quote from: Lysergikon137 on September 08, 2019, 11:05:22 PM
Huh, thanks for the insight. I was gonna say, based on the Kisloty Forever EP I had a feeling Schacke was committing to club culture for the time being. Regardless, I enjoyed the rest while it lasted.
Still hard to believe for me this is Schacke...
this needs to be said, so i'm just going to say it... noise/PE was a phase, it seems, for many in the copenhagen/denmark scene. and people openly mock it now, deny their past in the genre etc. - truly sad! but each to their own i guess
Some of us saw that from the start and distanced ourselves early. It's not that all of the music was terrible or that I disliked any of them personally but scratching the surface a bit revealed a lack of depth and dedication in most of the players from that time.
But who cares? They're trendy and successful pop stars now and I'm sure they're happy how the career plan came together. Industrial has never relied on their kind anyway.
Quote from: brutalist_tapes on January 24, 2020, 11:40:11 PM
and people openly mock it now, deny their past in the genre etc.
"openly" as in privately-openly? Or in interviews? Would like to read if you have a source.
I think most people here would agree with you since this is a noise forum, but yeah to each their own. Couldn't care less about some techno clowns talking shit about noise. The desire to ego-boost whatever one is doing at a point in time (also by talking down other activities that "run contrary") is strong. Not gonna get into it in detail but what shocked me is not that he's doing dance music now but that he apparently planned this to work out for a long time and now it seems like it kinda blew up. Seems easy doesn't it.
as gewaltmonopol said... i kind of sensed it early too, but i was very young when this scene started and was kind of naive, i guess.. but around 2012-13 i sensed something was seriously wrong when they started playing with the same indie rock bands our mutual hate was founded upon on.. overall an extremely depressing experience for me. but i guess i learned things the hard way.
and to deutsche asphalt: definitely privately-openly, but after they started going all-in on "PE is nazi-glorification" etc... and i just got sickened and quit it all... but we're still a few hardcore people left in copenhagen... this shit city is beyond redemption though, unfortunately
It never looked like anything other than a phase at the time. You could see the same process reflected in the various punk, black metal and whatever else bands all these guys burned through just prior or concurrently to whatever late-prurient/Hospital clone job they were peddling (and that people were lapping up). The Family Underground interview in Fördamning when the whole scene appeared to be blowing up had some pretty measured and accurate takes on it all from people not in the focus of the popularity and who'd been around making music a lot longer.
None of that is to suggest I didn't find parts of it enjoyable in passing though, and the handful of people I met from that crowd ranged from nice enough to very nice indeed. As with anything like this I don't think one should overly criticise young people for having thrown themselves into things with that kind of ridiculous gusto then moving on. There's every possibility that their modern day rejection of that music is based in some private embarrassment about who they were and how they presented themselves at the time.
Quote from: Duncan on January 25, 2020, 11:59:29 AM
It never looked like anything other than a phase at the time. You could see the same process reflected in the various punk, black metal and whatever else bands all these guys burned through just prior or concurrently to whatever late-prurient/Hospital clone job they were peddling (and that people were lapping up). The Family Underground interview in Fördamning when the whole scene appeared to be blowing up had some pretty measured and accurate takes on it all from people not in the focus of the popularity and who'd been around making music a lot longer.
None of that is to suggest I didn't find parts of it enjoyable in passing though, and the handful of people I met from that crowd ranged from nice enough to very nice indeed. As with anything like this I don't think one should overly criticise young people for having thrown themselves into things with that kind of ridiculous gusto then moving on. There's every possibility that their modern day rejection of that music is based in some private embarrassment about who they were and how they presented themselves at the time.
very good take.
Quote from: Duncan on January 25, 2020, 11:59:29 AM
It never looked like anything other than a phase at the time.
I think vast majority of bands, labels and activity appears to be that way. Of course one can see who are the guys who are in-it-for-live, perhaps the no progression, no compromises -type of approach. Yet, you can always listen plenty of great recordings that emerged not only due individual, but due zeitgeist or consequences. Lets say that vast amount of 80's postmortem / power electronics etc. That blossomed when the scene was at its peak, and then simply disappeared or moved on.
Same seems to be with many noise things. Obscure 90's or 2000's harsh noise that emerged seemingly same time, and then most people didn't continue churning more noise for rest of their lives. The ones they did, may be well worthy of appreciation regardless what "artists" become later on.
As example, I would still highly appreciate Uncommunity, despite Tim Gane would be vastly more popular with Stereolab and seemingly leave behind the noise dirt for long time. When one looks at it, it's raw UK pe / industrial band former in 83 and being active mere 2 years, entering the already established styles & aesthetics, and quitting as soon as everybody else stopped or changed style by 1985...
Nevertheless, it doesn't make those masterpieces any less remarkable, even if they are probably result of era more than individual creativity. Same way I can appreciate best moments of the Danish scene, what at peak, was seemingly endless flow of gigs, projects, new (good) tapes etc. Not all gold, but best works can be revisited still in 2020.
As for the new stuff, I did not hear any releases for 3 years now. Back in 2016/2017, while many items didn't seem interesting, there was still several good experimental releases there too. From that era, which is already far from old style, I would still like to get few releases I never got. It doesn't look like Damien Dubrovnik – Great Many Arrows LP would be expensive or hard to get, but haven't yet bought it...
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on January 26, 2020, 11:26:53 AM
Quote from: Duncan on January 25, 2020, 11:59:29 AM
It never looked like anything other than a phase at the time.
I think vast majority of bands, labels and activity appears to be that way. Of course one can see who are the guys who are in-it-for-live, perhaps the no progression, no compromises -type of approach. Yet, you can always listen plenty of great recordings that emerged not only due individual, but due zeitgeist or consequences. Lets say that vast amount of 80's postmortem / power electronics etc. That blossomed when the scene was at its peak, and then simply disappeared or moved on.
Same seems to be with many noise things. Obscure 90's or 2000's harsh noise that emerged seemingly same time, and then most people didn't continue churning more noise for rest of their lives. The ones they did, may be well worthy of appreciation regardless what "artists" become later on.
As example, I would still highly appreciate Uncommunity, despite Tim Gane would be vastly more popular with Stereolab and seemingly leave behind the noise dirt for long time. When one looks at it, it's raw UK pe / industrial band former in 83 and being active mere 2 years, entering the already established styles & aesthetics, and quitting as soon as everybody else stopped or changed style by 1985...
Nevertheless, it doesn't make those masterpieces any less remarkable, even if they are probably result of era more than individual creativity. Same way I can appreciate best moments of the Danish scene, what at peak, was seemingly endless flow of gigs, projects, new (good) tapes etc. Not all gold, but best works can be revisited still in 2020.
As for the new stuff, I did not hear any releases for 3 years now. Back in 2016/2017, while many items didn't seem interesting, there was still several good experimental releases there too. From that era, which is already far from old style, I would still like to get few releases I never got. It doesn't look like Damien Dubrovnik – Great Many Arrows LP would be expensive or hard to get, but haven't yet bought it...
huh! interesting... never knew of the connection between noise/industrial music and stereolab. actually i must admit that i think stereolab is a really solid band... not my style normally, but good art rock, 90s style.... although i lost interest by the "dots and loops..." album. and yeah, you are right, merit of releases should not be judged by what people did later, after all, as you said, many legendary releases were made by people who later abandonded the "scene". after all, at least for me, music should be about making art, not sticking to one style, so i guess i am just a little bit sad that style shifted to sound i am not personally interested in... but at the same time, you could say the same about big parts of legendary 80s english PE/noise/industrial scene. i personally think that damien dubrovniks strongest moment is still "europa dagbog", though