Resources, sites and more regarding the subject.
Although I have enough of the glamourisation of crime, I still don't have enough of crime itself.
This is a very interesting site regarding photography in jail.
To notice this amazing portrait of Concutelli, one of Italy's most interesting character in the radical right movement of the 70's.
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http://prisonphotography.wordpress.com/2009/03/
Some pictures of Italian photographer Marco Delogu with some impressive inmates profiles (and again Concutelli).
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http://www.marcodelogu.com/artcattivita.html
http://www.marcodelogu.com/gallerycattivita.html
A well done french serie about different criminals, sex offenders, serial killers, etc. Maybe this link should go in the documentary topic but all the episodes are about true crime and related. It's all in french but i'll try to find versions with english subtitles.
Faites entrer l'accusé:
http://sebastien280190.unblog.fr/faites-entrer-laccuse-video/ (http://sebastien280190.unblog.fr/faites-entrer-laccuse-video/)
Quote from: tiny_tove on February 23, 2010, 03:24:01 PM
This is a very interesting site regarding photography in jail.
To notice this amazing portrait of Concutelli, one of Italy's most interesting character in the radical right movement of the 70's.
Is there any good info about Concutelli? His name have poped up in connection with the assissanation of Olof Palme. Swedish primeminister that was gunned down on an open street in 1986. A crime that have never been solved.
Usual problem, plenty of Italian stuff (his own biography "Me, the black man" and other stuff and his interview in the "Destra criminale". I see if I can find anything in English.
What was the connection with the Palmer murder? I have no clue about this.
The Natashas: Inside the New Global Sex Trade
(in finnish "Natashat") by Viktor Malarek is very fine true crime. It's highly biased writing about modern day slave trade, human traffiking, etc. Best thing is, that it is so biased, that every sentence that describes the pimps, traffickers, dealers and other hustlers, can't be written without degoratory sentences. It's always describing vile character, nasty disgusting looks and so on. While the officers in service busting the cases are "bright eyed", "firm tall well build" type of guys. Author isn't just making the book about sex trade, but he is out there to mock and attack against the wrongdoers. I think in this book there was story of girl who was 12, and he butt had been so brutally penetrated for long times, that there was already permanent internal organ damages. I think it was this book. Most of all it's about east european girls that are being lured to west in hopes of better life. It goes from US to UK, to middle east, etc. One can probably say it might not be such a "academic study" one could trust 100%, but when you type the name online and find the reactions of readers like "After I read this book, I felt like killing all male", I guess it's sign of pretty decent true crime observations?
There's some easy to find websites with a lot of sickos, serial killers, rapists biographies and pictures:
http://www.truelifecrimes.com/ (http://www.truelifecrimes.com/)
http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/ (http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/) (there's a lot of mumbo jumbo on that site but the sections at the buttom of the page are nice and entertaining.)
http://mayhem.net/Crime/archives.html (http://mayhem.net/Crime/archives.html) (a classic)
http://www.truecrimereport.com/ (http://www.truecrimereport.com/)
Quote from: tiny_tove on February 23, 2010, 05:17:17 PM
Usual problem, plenty of Italian stuff (his own biography "Me, the black man" and other stuff and his interview in the "Destra criminale". I see if I can find anything in English.
What was the connection with the Palmer murder? I have no clue about this.
He wasn't connected himself. The idea that has been out there is that the attempted murder of Bernardo Leighton and his wife is a dead ringer for the murder of Olof Palme and that Michael Townley was behind both things. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Townley
I'm trying to get my head around this Townley guy so any info on him is appreciated.
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Peter Sutcliffe should never be freed
Because the Yorkshire Ripper killed women, he is seen as mad. But these were heinous hate crimes and he should die in jail
* Julie Bindel
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o Julie Bindel
o guardian.co.uk, Tuesday 2 March 2010 14.00 GMT
o Article history
PETER SUTCLIFFE, THE YORKSHIRE RIPPER
YORKSHIRE RIPPER, PETER SUTCLIFFE, 59, WHO IS SERVING LIFE FOR THE MURDERS OF 13 WOMEN IN WEST YORKSHIRE BETWEEN 1975 AND 1981. TODAY, Photograph: Rex Features
I was 18 years old and living in Leeds when Sutcliffe killed Jacqueline Hill, a 20-year-old student in the third year of her English degree course. She was returning home to her students' hall of residence in Headingley, Leeds. It was November 1980 and, two months later, Sutcliffe would be arrested by police in Sheffield while setting up his next victim. I lived less than a mile away from where Hill's body was found, and had been followed up the hill late one night the week prior to Jacqueline being killed by a man fitting Sutcliffe's description. I had reported it to the police, but they dismissed me.
I was involved in a group campaigning to end violence against women in the city and we would often talk about the outrageous comments of West Yorkshire police, such as imposing a curfew on women at night rather than men, and talking of "innocent victims" when a body was discovered who had not been a prostitute. In a way, Sutcliffe is partly responsible for me becoming a feminist, but so are the legions of other men who take pleasure from harming women and children.
The so-called Yorkshire Ripper, the notorious serial killer who murdered at least 13 women and left another seven for dead, is back in the news. On Monday, his lawyers won a ruling from a high court judge that a hearing should be held to set his tariff – the length of time he should serve before being eligible for parole. We can only assume that Sutcliffe, sentenced to 30 years in prison in 1981, wants to taste the freedom of which he deprived so many women and their loved ones.
Immediately prior to killing Jacqueline Hill, Sutcliffe had eaten chicken and chips as he waited for his prey. When interviewed by police after his arrest, he said, "The last one I did was Jacqueline Hill" – as though he was talking about cleaning his car. When asked by his brother Carl why he had committed such crimes, he replied, "I were just cleaning up the streets, our kid." In Sutcliffe's mind, the streets were filled with vermin – women – in need of elimination. The attacks carried out by this misogynist were the most extreme hate crimes imaginable. Sutcliffe did not go on a killing spree because he had some sort of moral objection to women in prostitution, as was suggested at the time by much of the media, and since, by authors and commentators, but because he hated women.
If the murders of Ian Banyam, the gay man kicked to death in Trafalgar Square, and Stephen Lawrence, the young black man stabbed to death by racists, are viewed as hate crimes, why are the sex murders of women seen as the actions of individual madmen, rather than an expression of deep-rooted, institutionalised hatred of women?
I remember the jokes ordinary men in Yorkshire used to make about this serial killer before he was caught. "There's only one Yorkshire Ripper" football fans would chant at Elland Road, "Ripper 12, police nil," was one particular jibe during games where the police were penalising unruly fans. "Give us a kiss, love, I'm not the Ripper," was a regular crack heard in nightclubs around the country. In the 1980s, a group of anarchists named themselves "The Peter Sutcliffe Fan Club", because they saw him as the ultimate rebel.
Yet this man is responsible for untold agony and misery, not just of his victims but of the women in the north of England during his reign of terror, and the parents and children of the dead women.
For the sake of Sutcliffe's survivors, such as the brave Marcella Claxton, who was bludgeoned with a hammer in 1976 and still suffers from blackouts and headaches, we should never let this man see the light of day again. It would serve no purpose to release him. Think about poor Doreen Hill, Jacqueline's mother, who has long argued that if the police had done their jobs and arrested Sutcliffe during one of the nine times they questioned him as a potential suspect, her daughter would still be alive today. What would it do to her to know that he has not been given a whole life tariff?
Prisoners should have information regarding their sentences, and those who will never be released should be made aware of that fact. But Sutcliffe's crimes were so heinous, and his remorse so absent, that he should never have the privilege of freedom. The lawyers representing him will argue that they are merely ensuring that his human rights are exercised.
I say, let him die in jail and rot in hell.
I have started to compile selected random articles, photos etc from my archives into a blog. I think it may be of interest to many people here at Special Interests: http://ghoulson.blogspot.com
got a huge collection of photos from swedish prisons in 70/80s, saving much of it for my own artworks etc but I'll share a few of them there.
tony, my bandmate in alfarmania, told me last week that he'd talked to his father about his jailtime in 70s and he said he used to take lots of photos of him and his mates. with a little luck this material comes out of the closet....
James Bulger killer back in prison
Jon Venables, one of the two killers of toddler James Bulger in 1993, returned to jail after breaching the terms of his licence conditions
James Bulger/videograb
A video still dated 13 February 1993 of James Bulger, aged 2, being led away in the New Strand shopping centre in the Bootle area of Liverpool. Photograph: Malcolm Croft/PA
One of the killers of the toddler James Bulger is back in prison after breaching the terms of his licence, the government confirmed yesterday.
Jon Venables, now 27, has been given a new identity since his release from prison for his part in the 1993 murder which horrified the nation due to the savagery of the crime, the age of the perpetrators, and the age of the victim.
Venables and Robert Thompson, both 10 at the time, abducted and murdered James, two, in February 1993.
James was taken from a shopping centre in Liverpool and found on a railway line having been beaten with bricks and an iron bar. Venables and Thompson, who were truanting from school, walked James around the streets of Liverpool for more than two miles, stopping occasionally to kick and punch him. They told adults who intervened that he was their brother.
Last night, James's mother Denise Fergus, 42, said through a spokesman she believed the public should be told what Venables had done to trigger his recall to prison.
"Denise has always said she did not believe that it was safe to parole Venables and Thompson at 18, before they had ever spent a day in an adult prison," the spokesman said.
"She believes this breach of parole shows that she was right ... But she believes that she and the public have a right to know what Venables has done and what is to be done with him now he is an adult offender."
The Ministry of Justice refused to say what Venables had done to breach his licence. It also refused to confirm or deny whether it involved an act of violence against a person or any other criminal act.
The conditions placed on the killers after their release included that they did not contact each other, and that they stayed away from the Liverpool area.
Michael Wolkind QC said he thought there was a "significant chance" the breach had been serious.
He said: "Licence is a means of controlling people once they are released. Now this has been publicised, I think there must be a possibility of his new identity being exposed in prison and the inference must be it was a serious breach.
"To go to all the trouble of building him a new identity and a new life, there must be a significant chance it was serious."
Venables and Thompson were released from custody in 2001, having been the youngest people to be charged with murder in 20th century Britain.
They were convicted following a trial at Preston crown court and ordered to be detained at Her Majesty's pleasure, the usual sentence for life imprisonment when the offender is a juvenile.
Trial judge Mr Justice Morland told the pair they had committed a crime of "unparalleled evil and barbarity".
Venables and Thompson were given life sentences for the murder and will remain on licence for the rest of their lives.
CCTV images of James's abduction were seared into the nation's consciousness, with the pictures showing the toddler being led away by the hand.
On their release, the pair were given new homes, new passports and new national insurance and social security documents.
The media were also gagged from revealing their new identities or where they lived.
Yesterday evening's statement announcing Venables's recall to prison was made by the government, before his breach of his licence conditions were revealed by a newspaper.
Harry Fletcher, assistant general secretary of Napo, the probation union, said: "The fact that the statement has been put out today does not mean he has been recalled within the last 24 hours.
"It's more likely that information about his whereabouts has leaked and the Ministry of Justice has taken a proactive step to limit the damage. He will now be in an adult prison somewhere in England and Wales."
If the usual procedures are followed, Venables will appear before the Parole Board within 28 days of his recall and it will consider how serious the breach is. The board will also decide whether to recommend Venables for release.
David Blunkett, who as home secretary told the House of Commons of the Parole Board's decision that Venables should be released in 2001, said: "It is with great regret that I have learned of the breach – but it is a great credit to the professionals undertaking the supervision and the continuing follow-through work that action has been taken and the original terms enforced."
The Ministry of Justice said: "We can confirm that Jon Venables has been recalled to custody following a breach of licence conditions. Offenders on licence are subject to strict conditions; if they breach those conditions they are subject to immediate recall. There is a worldwide injunction in place that prohibits any reporting that could identify Jon Venables or his location."
Pressure grows for answer to why Jon Venables is behind bars
Justice secretary Jack Straw says he has 'good reasons' for not disclosing more information about James Bulger's killer
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Jon Venables
Jon Venables, who was given a new identity when he was released in 2001, was taken back into custody Photograph: AP
Pressure was mounting tonight on the justice secretary, Jack Straw, to disclose why Jon Venables, who was convicted at the age of 10 of the murder of two-year-old James Bulger, has been sent back to prison for unspecified breaches of the conditions of his release on a life licence.
The calls for public disclosure yesterday were led by Detective Albert Kirby, who led the original investigation into the murder of the toddler in 1993, who said that the public should be told what Venables, now aged 27, had done.
"I think the statement that came out last night actually raises more questions than it answers. They wouldn't, using football parlance, have given him a red card and have him go to prison for one infringement. It would help to clarify and put this to rest once and for all if the public did have some indication of what he has done."
Straw yesterday defended the decision not to give any details: "I'm sorry that I cannot give more information at this stage on the nature of the alleged breach. I know there is an intense public interest in why he has been recalled. I would like to give that information but I'm sorry that for good reasons I can't and that's in the public interest."
The home secretary, Alan Johnson, went a little further conceding that there was a "public right to know" in the case but saying that "at this juncture I can say nothing more than confirm that Jon Venables is back in custody. I believe the public do have a right to know and I believe they will know all the facts in due course. But I must in no way prejudice the future criminal justice proceedings."
His last comment prompted speculation that Venables must be facing a trial after having committed a further serious offence. But the Ministry of Justice moved to issue a clarification, saying that Johnson was referring not to a trial but to impending parole board proceedings that must be held within the next 28 days to decide whether or not to confirm the decision to recall Venables to prison.
It is not usual for the ruling by a three-strong panel, headed by a judge, to be made public but a parole board spokesman said it was likely the outcome would be released because of the high profile nature of the case.
The question of why one of the two Bulger killers has been recalled to prison eight years after he was released with a new identity and new life goes far beyond mere public prurience.
It is already developing into a trial of strength between the tabloid media, fuelled by a wave of punitive outrage on the net, and a criminal justice system striving to maintain a protective cloak of anonymity against vigilante justice.
It is important because a worldwide anonymity order places a legal duty on Straw to protect Venables's new identity, and even the barest details of what he has been involved in could lead to a jigsaw identification. But it also raises the question of how successful the much-vaunted rehabilitation of Venables and his co-defendant, Robert Thompson, has actually been.
As far as Bulger's mother, Denise Fergus, is concerned her grief will never be assuaged. But to understand how we got into the topsy turvy position of being able to name two children aged 10 and relive through CCTV footage every tormented second of their abduction of the Merseyside toddler, but not being able to discuss their adult behaviour it is necessary to go back to their original trial 17 years ago.
As now, it was usual then not to name children accused of crimes. But such was the public and media pressure on the judge, Mr Justice Morland, in a case which Tony Blair described as "a hammer blow against the conscience of the nation" that he made an exception at the end of the trial.
"I did this because the public interest overrode the interest of the defendants," he said. "There was a need for an informed public debate on crimes committed by young children." Straw is now having to live with the consequences of that decision.
The Lord Chief Justice, Lord Woolf, tried to put the genie back in the bottle when he rejected the "institutional vengeance" of Michael Howard's 15-year tariff and replaced it with an eight-year term.
"We ought not to forget that, although they committed those very serious crimes, they were first of all human beings, and secondly they were children. Children can do things when they are children that they would never do in later life when they had matured," he said.
Woolf took a personal interest in the case and ensured that Venables and Thompson were kept out of the "corrosive atmosphere" of the prison service's young offender institutions. Instead, they were kept separately in local authority secure units and put through intense programmes of rehabilitation, education and psychological counselling.
It was a great success story leading to A-levels in Venables's case, and left them articulate enough about their emotions and remorse to convince a parole panel to release them on life licence.
It is breaches in the terms of that life licence which has led to the decision to recall Venables to jail. They include specific conditions such as not going anywhere near Liverpool or trying to contact each other, as well as general conditions, such as only living at an approved address or doing an approved job.
Venables may not have committed a further offence. It is sufficient for him to commit a pattern of technical breaches – such as missing a series of appointments with his probation officer – for him to be recalled to prison. The reasons for the recall could yet demonstrate all that rehabilitation work was not in vain.
Thought I'd share this with you. Nice story from Lithuania. And that's what can be called the bad trip. For 13 years.
The action is under influence of LSD.
"When I attacked Jolanta, her face was just like mine, I thought that I was killing myself, but not her" said Dmitri Andreichiuk, age 28 who stabbed his girlfriend 143 times.
"Then we danced, I was throwing money all around the room, colors started to fade, then I smoked some weed" said the killer. "Jolanta tried to stop me, asked not to use drugs anymore. Then she said that some guys will come and beat me up. She went to the door, I took the knife, I was very afraid, I thought someone will come home. Then I tried to open the door to the balcony with the knife, but I couldn't disappear from the flat so I attacked Jolanta in the bathroom. Her face was just like mine"
Quote from: tiny_tove on March 04, 2010, 10:33:01 AM
Pressure grows for answer to why Jon Venables is behind bars
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Jon Venables
Debated on Question Time yesterday. Watch Will Self talk down the reactionaries and quick fixers round the 31 minute mark. He tends to do that by just presenting facts. He takes no prisoners and I like him.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00r7npn#p006rxvc
http://www.ocregister.com/news/alcala-238591-women-murphy.html (http://www.ocregister.com/news/alcala-238591-women-murphy.html)
Article (and photo gallery) asking readers to view photos of women taken by convicted serial killer Rodney Alcala, with hopes of identifying possible additional victims. Obviously all of the photos released by the police are fairly innocuous, but somewhat intriguing given the context in which the police are releasing them.
From the article :
"...Alcala – a freelance photographer – approached some of his victims and asked them to pose for his camera as a way of getting them to lower their guard. Murphy also contended that Alcala positioned the bodies of his victims into horrific poses and may have shot pictures of them afterward.
Detectives recovered hundreds of photos of young women – apparently taken by Alcala before his 1979 arrest – during court-authorized searches of Alcala's Monterey Park home and a rented storage locker.
Some photos show women or young girls in the nude and engaging in sex acts. Some show women or young girls who appear to be unconscious. Others show women posing, staring into the lens of a camera held by a man who was a serial killer, in remote settings – similar to the locale where Robin Samsoe's body was found in 1979. A few are of young men in sexually suggestive poses.
And most of the subjects in the photos have never been identified.
Murphy said he can't help but wonder: are these people still alive?
"We know that he used his camera many times in the past to gain the trust of several of his victims," Murphy said in an interview. "And then we found dozens of photos of unidentified young women who posed for him.
"We'd like to locate the women in these pictures," Murphy said. "Did they simply pose for a serial killer, or did they become victims of his sadistic, murderous pattern?" ."
Quote from: ATosna on March 27, 2010, 07:15:16 AM
"...Alcala – a freelance photographer – approached some of his victims and asked them to pose for his camera as a way of getting them to lower their guard. Murphy also contended that Alcala positioned the bodies of his victims into horrific poses and may have shot pictures of them afterward.
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I see that racially he's pretty cool.
'Doctor Shock' charged with sexually abusing male patient
Canadian police investigate dozens of allegations against psychiatrist nicknamed for use of electricity to 'cure' gay soldiers
A leading Canadian psychiatrist who kept accusations of gross human rights abuses in apartheid-era South Africa hidden has been charged in Calgary with sexually abusing a male patient and is being investigated over dozens of other allegations.
Dr Aubrey Levin, who in South Africa was known as Dr Shock for his use of electricity to "cure" gay military conscripts, was arrested after a patient secretly filmed the psychiatrist allegedly making sexual advances. Levin, who worked at the University of Calgary's medical school, has been suspended from practising and is free on bail of C$50,000 (£32,000) on charges of repeatedly indecently assaulting a 36-year-old man.
The police say they are investigating similar claims by nearly 30 other patients. The Alberta justice department is reviewing scores of criminal convictions in which Levin was a prosecution witness.
Levin has worked in Canada for 15 years since leaving South Africa, where he was chief psychiatrist in the apartheid-era military and became notorious for using electric shocks to "cure" gay white conscripts. He also held conscientious objectors against their will at a military hospital because they were "disturbed" and subjected them to powerful drug regimens.
South Africa's Truth and Reconciliation Commission heard that Levin was guilty of "gross human rights abuses" including chemical castration of gay men. But after arriving in Canada in 1995 he managed to suppress public discussion of his past by threatening lawsuits against news organisations that attempted to explore it.
Following the arrest, other male patients have contacted the authorities. One, who was not identified, told CTV in Canada that he had gone to Levin for help with a gambling addiction and alleged he had been questioned about his sex life and subject to sexual advances.
The arrest has raised questions about how Levin was allowed to settle in Canada. Canada admitted other South African medical practitioners accused of human rights abuses, including two who worked with Wouter Basson, known as Dr Death for his oversight of chemical and biological warfare experiments that included the murder of captured Namibian guerrillas.
Levin, who made no secret of his hard rightwing views and was a member of the ruling National party during apartheid, has a long history of homophobia.
In the 1960s, he wrote to a parliamentary committee considering the abolition of laws criminalising homosexuality saying that they should be left in place because he could "cure" gay people.
His efforts to do just that in the army began in 1969 at the infamous ward 22 at the Voortrekkerhoogte military hospital near Pretoria, which ostensibly catered for service personnel with psychological problems. Commanding officers and chaplains were encouraged to refer "deviants" for electroconvulsive aversion therapy.
The treatment consisted of strapping electrodes to the upper arm. Homosexual soldiers were shown pictures of a naked man and encouraged to fantasise, and then the power was ratcheted up.
Trudie Grobler, an intern psychologist on ward 22, saw a lesbian subjected to severe shocks.
"It was traumatic. I could not believe her body could handle it," she said later.
One gay soldier claimed to have been chemically castrated by Levin. The Truth and Reconciliation Commission was told by investigators that he was not alone. It also heard that at least one patient had been driven to suicide. Levin refused to testify before the commission.
Levin also treated drug users, principally soldiers who smoked marijuana, and men who objected to serving in the apartheid-era military on moral grounds, who were classified as "disturbed".
Levin subjected some patients to narco-analysis or a "truth drug", involving the slow injection of a barbiturate before the questioning began. In an interview with the Guardian 10 years ago, he did not deny its use but said it was solely to help soldiers suffering from post-traumatic stress.
Levin said he left South Africa only because of the high crime rate, and denied abusing human rights. He said electric shock therapy was a standard "treatment" for gay people at the time and those subjected to it did so voluntarily.
"Nobody was held against his or her will. We did not keep human guinea pigs, like Russian communists; we only had patients who wanted to be cured and were there voluntarily," he told the Guardian in 2000.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2989295/Suspected-serial-killer-Stephen-Griffiths-Im-a-demon.html
By ALASTAIR TAYLOR
Published: Today
A UNIVERSITY researcher studying serial killers was last night being held on suspicion of murdering three prostitutes.
Stephen Griffiths, 40, was arrested after CCTV footage emerged of a woman being executed with a crossbow outside his flat in Bradford - home of the Yorkshire Ripper.
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Cops fear dismembered body parts of possible victim Suzanne Blamires, 36, may have been EATEN or dumped in bin bags.
Triple murder suspect Griffiths was grabbed by armed police after a caretaker discovered horrific CCTV film of a woman being shot in the head with a crossbow.
Ripper territory ... where Sutcliffe's and latest murders took place
The footage showed the victim, believed to be prostitute Suzanne, being chased in a corridor in the early hours of Saturday outside the university researcher's flat.
She was attacked and knocked unconscious by a man who then disappeared from view.
But he returned moments later with a crossbow and fired a bolt into her head, before dragging her body away.
It is understood CCTV cameras also captured a man coming and going from the block of flats with BIN BAGS.
Police recovered partially decomposed body parts from a river in Shipley on Tuesday night.
She vanished last FRIDAY. The man with the bin bags was caught on camera over the WEEKEND.
And 40-year-old Griffiths, who has a PhD in psychology and is studying serial killers, was seized on MONDAY.
He is being held on suspicion of murdering Suzanne and two more vice girls.
They are Shelley Armitage, 31, who vanished at the end of last month, and Susan Rushworth, 43, who has not been seen since June last year.
It is feared at least one of the three may have been dismembered with a samurai sword.
And shocked detectives are investigating whether some body parts may have been EATEN cannibal-style.
They are also probing possible links to other missing or killed prostitutes including 19-year-old Rebecca Hall - murdered and dumped in an alleyway in 2001.
A source said: "We just don't know what we are dealing with at the moment. It is absolutely horrific, the stuff of hell.
"There are three missing women being looked at regarding him at present.
"But there is the obvious fear there could be more."
Griffiths uses the name Ven Pariah on a bizarre website featuring photos of more than 50 serial killers including Ian Brady, Myra Hindley and Fred and Rose West.
A neighbour described him as an "oddball" who often wears a long leather coat.
He was taken in after more than 80 cops - some armed with pistols and machine guns - swooped on his third-floor flat in a converted mill.
It is close to Bradford city centre and deep in the heartland of Yorkshire Ripper Peter Sutcliffe, who slaughtered 13 women, mainly prostitutes, between 1975 and 1980.
The neighbour said: "The whole place was surrounded.
"I tried to walk out of my flat and police shouted, 'Get inside and stay inside.'
"You could see dozens of officers with guns. Some had machine guns. We thought they had found a terrorist.
"It was incredible. We were held for two hours while the police moved in and then broke down the man's door. He was led away in handcuffs."
The block, called Holmfield Court, is heavily covered by CCTV cameras.
And the neighbour said: "Apparently the caretaker was reviewing the footage routinely on Monday to check if there had been any problems over the weekend.
"He was stunned when he saw this woman being attacked in a corridor.
"When the police raided the flat there was no body."
Cops were yesterday combing several derelict buildings that back on to the flats.
They dug on land beside the building and searched nearby streams and drains. Forensic officers and frogmen continued to scour the River Aire at Shipley, where the body parts were seen floating by a passer-by.
A police evidence bag was seen in the boot of a car.
A spokesman said: "We haven't yet been able to identify the remains and inquiries are continuing."
Magistrates yesterday gave cops extra time to quiz Griffiths.
More details of the three possible victims emerged last night.
The first to vanish, heroin addict Susan, was last seen getting off a single-decker bus in the Manningham area of Bradford, near her home. The mother of three, who suffered from epilepsy, did not contact her family or friends again.
Nor did she use her phone or bank account.
Her son James, 23, later made a public appeal for information about her disappearance.
He said his mother had no reason to quit her home of her own accord.
Shelley was last seen in the early hours of April 27 in Rebecca Street in the centre of Bradford.
A week later police launched a poster appeal in a bid to trace her - and said they were "extremely concerned" for her safety.
Shelley, plagued by drink and drug problems, has since failed to claim benefits or use her mobile.
She is thought to have known Suzanne, who lived in Allerton, Bradford.
The disappearance of the three prostitutes will once again throw a spotlight on Bradford's notorious red-light district.
It is where the Yorkshire Ripper struck for the first time, killing vice girl Patricia Atkinson in a flat a few streets away from Susan's home.
In the mid-1990s the area was the backdrop for TV drama series Band Of Gold, about a group of women who lived and worked there.
And Rebecca Hall's 2001 murder sent shivers down the spine of the local community.
The area, just north of Bradford's city centre, remains run-down and grimy despite numerous operations to try to clear up problems of drugs, crime and prostitution.
Streets contain a mixture of commercial and residential properties. But many are abandoned and boarded up.
Those living there complain about sex workers conducting their business outside their homes and leaving used condoms and needles strewn around.
QuoteGriffiths uses the name Ven Pariah on a bizarre website featuring photos of more than 50 serial killers including Ian Brady, Myra Hindley and Fred and Rose West.
I wonder which "bizarre" website this was. When I googled Ven Pariah the only hits I got that wasn't newspapers were Myspace (account deleted) and that he seems to have been part of different bar chat groups on Myspace.
This is my kind of girl
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/latin_america/10169257.stm
Quote from: ConcreteMascara on May 27, 2010, 04:11:15 PM
This is my kind of girl
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/latin_america/10169257.stm
QuoteAn arrest warrant was issued for her after a 21-year-old model was found carrying 55kg of cocaine boarding a flight to Cancun.
Even 55kg of regular luggage would be suspicious. What were they thinking?!
Maybe they had contest? Let's carry our own weight in drugs.
ouch!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/4253849.stm
QuoteShe pulled off his left testicle and tried to swallow it, before spitting it out. A friend handed it back to Mr Jones saying: "That's yours."
QuoteThis is my kind of girl
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3023879/Bulger-killer-Venables-charged-over-57-child-porn-pics.html
Quote from: tiny_tove on June 22, 2010, 10:27:20 AM
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3023879/Bulger-killer-Venables-charged-over-57-child-porn-pics.html
a novel worth reading on this specific subiect matter
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boy_A
recently translated and published also in Italy, by ISBN
the guardian
Probation staff admit to serious failures over sex offenders
Criminal justice report identifies a lack of skills and support
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Probation officers have admitted to lacking the skills and training necessary to protect the public from sex offenders, according to an independent investigation into the police and probation services.
Even experienced officers say they lack vital support and claim that, because of excessive workloads, they feel "unable to engage effectively with offenders and challenge their behaviour", the criminal justice joint inspection study finds.
Public protection work with registered sexual offenders in the community is being undermined through those failures, the report concludes.
There are more than 44,700 people on the sex offenders register for England and Wales, according to the latest available figures, which end in April 2009.
The law requires any sex offender sentenced to a jail term of at least 30 months to be placed on the register for life.
More than half of convicted sex offenders living in the community are released from jail under condition they take part in behavioural programmes. But the report finds that delays in starting treatment programmes are leaving offenders living in public for a substantial time before their abusive behaviour is addressed.
The report also finds that offenders are failing to complete their pre-programme work in "far too many cases", reducing the effectiveness of any further treatment courses they complete.
Andrew Bridges, chief inspector of probation, said: "The proportion of sexual offenders who are reconvicted of further offending is known to be low. Nevertheless, their subsequent crimes understandably cause considerable public concern. [This] inspection revealed ... areas where practice by both police and probation ... threatened to undermine the efficacy of work with registered sexual offenders.
"Many of the probation staff we met during the inspection said they felt inadequately trained or supported to work with sexual offenders outside the group-work programme."
This "lack of confidence" was curtailing the effectiveness of staff contact with offenders, Bridges said.
Denis O'Connor, the chief inspector of constabulary, said time was also an issue. The investigation found that the workloads of probation offender managers averaged 30 to 50 cases, but in one area they were up to 90. "Managers carrying this number of cases would, in our opinion, be unable to engage effectively with offenders and challenge their behaviour," O'Connor said.
The report also identified serious concerns about the violent and sex offender register (ViSOR), a confidential national database of sexual, violent and other potentially dangerous offenders used by the police, prison and probation services.
Vital intervention plans, prepared by the probation service to prevent offenders re-offending, were also found to be dangerously wanting. "Too many ... were of insufficient quality and did not include some of the interventions used with sexual offenders, such as regular home visiting by the police or use of a sexual offences prevention order," said O'Connor.
Criticism was also raised about the quality of case management by Mappa, the multi-agency public protection agency.
"We had serious concerns, in some areas, about the lack of robust processes ... and the high proportion [of cases] that were being managed without any form of multi-agency oversight," the report said.
Donald Findlater, director of the Lucy Faithfull Foundation, a charity concerned with the welfare of offenders and victims and which aids the police, the national offender management service, and Mappa, said the report's findings were "unsurprising".
Findlater said: "I'm not surprised if an observation is expressed that probation officers appear to be deficient and that they're feeling unsupported or potentially inadequate. I have been concerned as to the quality of training being made available to those managing sex offenders in the community for some time."
Got me thinking about Kapten Klänning (swedish for Captain Dress).
QuoteA former police chief was indicted on Wednesday for 23 counts of sex crimes, including pimping, aggravated rape and planning to rape children. Göran Lindberg, who was a prominent public speaker on equality issues, faces six to eight years in prison if convicted on all counts.
Lindberg's trial, which is set to begin on June 29, may take place behind closed doors. This has caused some controversy.
The prosecutor has made a secrecy request, which has been criticized by a police press spokesperson who told Swedish Radio News that the public and the media should have access to the proceedings.
According to people who worked for him he was obsessed with women rights and neglected his regular job as a cop to make speeches about equality and woman lib issues.
If I'm not mistaken, I think the Captain was caught while preparing some nasty stuff with a 14-yr-old; gag-balls, ropes, strap-ons. Should be mentioned that consenting sex with a minor (below age 15) is considered rape either way - she was probably a prostitute, since they had planned the meeting. I suppose someone caught notice of his plans (girl's parents/guardians?) and called the cops on the cop. The reason - the official one at least - that the prosecutor put the lid on the trial is to protect the girls from the humiliating process of everyone knowing exactly what he did to them. Which was probably not in the softcore alley.
Weird thing - I think they unravelled this whole pimp story when they found his contact info in a cell phone in the pocket of a man - a pimp too - who was defenestrated by (supposedly) his girls. He died from the impact, of course. Very cinematic. Sweden is outraged.
somebody broke into my car today and stole the stereos. true story.
Peter Sutcliffe is going to stay in jail.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-10657290
Girls just want to have fun
And in another shock move he signalled that he wanted to scrap indeterminate sentences - where criminals can be kept in jail until they are no longer a danger to the public.
But his decisions were blasted by former Labour Justice Secretary Jack Straw, who brought in the party ban.
He imposed it two years ago after The Sun revealed how some of Britain's vilest women killers staged a sick "Monsters' Ball" at London's Holloway Prison, dressed as devils and vampires.
Mr Straw said last night: "When I introduced a balanced and reasonable public acceptability test on prisoner activity the Tories welcomed it.
"They said the public expect dangerous offenders to be 'sent to prison for life not to be sent to prison to have parties'.
"But now they're abolishing indeterminate sentences for the most serious criminals while restoring the right for prisoners to party. Law-abiding people, and especially victims, will be incredulous."
Mr Blunt said he was "pleased" to axe the ban in a keynote address yesterday to mark the 100th anniversary of a Winston Churchill speech on prison reform.
The posh ex-Cavalry officer declared he was only "vaguely conscious of some row in the tabloids about offenders being recorded as enjoying themselves".
Mr Blunt, uncle of sexy British actress Emily Blunt, went on to say Churchill was opposed to indeterminate sentences. He added: "I've not seen anything to suggest that Churchill's instinct was not correct."
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And the Ministry of Justice last night defended Mr Blunt's decision to allow parties, saying: "Arts activities have a part to play in reducing re-offending."
Yet at the Holloway Monsters' Ball the leering killers had covered themselves in fake blood.
They included Rochelle Etherington, 21, who beat her neighbour to death and Emma Last, 22, who set light to a love rival. Double killer Bella Coll, and murderesses Amie Bartholomew, Jayne Richards and Alison Walder were also there.
Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3065776/Monster-balls-up-as-jail-fiends-party-on.html#ixzz0uUKEZOvp
http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/815111--arrest-in-u-k-grisly-killing
He was studying criminology, with an emphasis on homicide, and told acquaintances that he was doing "a PhD in Jack the Ripper." He had a fascination with Nazi symbology and famous serial killers that he expressed online under the handle "Ven Pariah."
"Humanity is not merely a biological condition. It is also a state of mind," Griffiths/Pariah wrote in one post. "On that basis I am a pseudo-human at best. A demon at worst."
Locals told reporters that Griffiths was a familiar presence in the neighbourhood because of his habitual outfit of round glasses and black leather overcoat. He was known as a loner who kept up to 100 rats at a time in a large trunk to feed his pet lizards.
Quote from: tiny_tove on July 23, 2010, 10:26:50 AM
Yet at the Holloway Monsters' Ball the leering killers had covered themselves in fake blood.
They did the mash! They did the monster mash!
Quote from: Nil By Mouth on July 23, 2010, 02:16:20 PM
http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/815111--arrest-in-u-k-grisly-killing
He was studying criminology, with an emphasis on homicide, and told acquaintances that he was doing "a PhD in Jack the Ripper." He had a fascination with Nazi symbology and famous serial killers that he expressed online under the handle "Ven Pariah."
"Humanity is not merely a biological condition. It is also a state of mind," Griffiths/Pariah wrote in one post. "On that basis I am a pseudo-human at best. A demon at worst."
Locals told reporters that Griffiths was a familiar presence in the neighbourhood because of his habitual outfit of round glasses and black leather overcoat. He was known as a loner who kept up to 100 rats at a time in a large trunk to feed his pet lizards.
this nerd already attempted suicided after few days he got caught.
wimp
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/aug/01/panama-american-serial-killings-suspects
US husband and wife arrested for coning and murdering vacationers in Bocas del Torres. The family that slays together stays together!
Just remembered that a guy was bludgeoned to death across the street from my apartment in December last year. Some friends found him after been missing a couple of days, he'd been smashed with some blunt object (from what I've gathered from details). He had no criminal records (most violence here is gang-related; executions in open areas, daytime etc), had been a citizen since 2006, had no income whatsoever, no clues as to the killer's identity, no sound of fighting the day when he should have died. Police came over and asked a few questions, but I hadn't heard or seen anything. Malmö is a lovely town (ask TheGreatExtacy).
http://www.pppress.se/bilder/main.php?g2_itemId=265769
Grading evil in peacetime:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=129175964&sc=fb&cc=fp
QuoteColumbia University professor Michael Stone knows evil. He's a forensic psychologist — the type of expert that provides testimony on the mental state of accused murderers when a declaration of insanity can mean the difference between life and death row.
Inspired by the structure of Dante's circles of hell, Stone has created his own 22-point "Gradations of Evil" scale, made up of murderers in the 20th century. "I thought it would be an interesting thing to do," he says.
Asian gang of predators abused and raped up to 100 girls as young as 12
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By Andy Dolan
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An Asian gang of 'sexual predators' cruised city streets for girls as young as 12 - usually white - who were then plied with drink and drugs and raped or abused.
Up to 100 'vulnerable' girls may have been groomed, abused or supplied cocaine by married fathers Abid Saddique and Mohammed Liaqat, and their friends.
A court heard the pair used Liaqat's BMW saloon to trawl for victims, pulling up alongside girls outside shops or schools and chatting them up before a 'campaign of calls and texts' to groom them.
Saddique, 27, and Liaqat, 28, plied the victims - most from broken homes - with vodka and cocaine before taking them to 'parties' in hotels or flats with other gang members to rape or degrade them.
When girls refused their advances they were threatened with hammers or thrown out of cars.
Yesterday Saddique and Liaqat, each British-born and of Pakistani origin with an arranged marriage, faced years behind bars after being found guilty of a catalogue of sexual abuse over an 18-month period.
Reporting restrictions were lifted at the end of a third and final trial into the Derby gang's activities.
Seven other guilty members of the gang have already been jailed.
One of 26 alleged victims concerned in the gang's trials was a 14-year-old straight-A student from a middle-class home.
Meanwhile, one victim was in care, a second was with council foster parents and others were known to social services. Questions will now be asked about whether the various agencies worked well enough together to protect the girls.
The inquiry began in late 2008 when Saddique and Liaqat, both fathers-of-one, were arrested for shoplifting and two young girls were discovered with alcohol in their car.
Police swooped in April 2009 when two teenagers came out of a flat officers were watching and reported they had been raped. The surveillance teams had not known the girls were there.
After yesterday's verdicts at Leicester Crown Court, a senior officer warned that child exploitation and abuse was a 'hidden' problem nationwide.
Detective Inspector Sean Dawson, of Derbyshire Police, said: 'I would appeal to parents to monitor their children's phones... and think about if they come home smelling of alcohol or clutching gifts. These are all signs that children could be being groomed.'
He said that although all of the victims were white except for three mixed-race girls and two Asians, the men were 'out for whatever sex they could get' and did not care what race their victims were. The oldest victim was 18 but most were aged between 14 and 16.
One girl described a sexual assault involving at least eight men, although charges in relation to that incident were not proceeded with.
Many attacks were filmed on mobile phones as 'trophies'.
The inquiry, called Operation Retriever, is the biggest child sex investigation ever conducted by Derbyshire Police. A total of 75 charges were brought against 13 suspects - all of Derby. Four were cleared.
Saddique, from Normanton, Derby, was convicted of four rapes, two false imprisonment charges, aiding and abetting rape, three counts of sexual activity with a child, two sexual assaults, being involved with child pornography and attempting to pervert the course of justice. An additional rape charge was ordered to lie on the file when the jury could not reach a verdict.
Unemployed Liaqat, of Sinfin, Derby, was convicted of rape, aiding and abetting rape, being involved with child pornography, two sexual assaults, four counts of sexual activity with a child, and affray.
Of the other defendants, Akshay Kumar, 38, Faisal Mehmood, 24, Mohamed Imran Rehman, 26, Ziafat Yasin, 31, and Graham Blackham, 26 - a convicted sex offender who was the only non-Asian member of the gang to face a judge - have already been jailed after being convicted of a string of sex or drug offences.
Liaqat's brother, Naweed, 33, and Farooq Amed, 28, pleaded guilty to perverting the course of justice and were both jailed for 18 months.
Convictions were achieved in relation to 15 of the 26 victims across the three trials.
Saddique and Liaqat will be sentenced at Nottingham Crown Court in January.
A Serious Case Review by Derby Safeguarding Children Board is due to be published about the case imminently.
'At first I saw them as father figures'
One victim, who was raped in a car after being driven to a country lane by Liaqat and a second man, told how she was targeted aged 16 after telling the men she came from a broken home.
She said: 'They would take you out, buy you ice creams and take you out for a lovely nice meal. And there's part of you that thinks it's really exciting and there's part of you that thinks, "I have met this lovely nice man and he's taking me out for a really nice meal".
Teenage victim: The girl, who cannot be identified for legal reasons, repeatedly broke down in tears as she recounted her ordeal
Teenage victim: The girl, who cannot be identified for legal reasons, repeatedly broke down in tears as she recounted her ordeal
'And there's part of you that looks at these men as a father figure, as weird as it sounds, because you feel like they're going to keep you safe and they then abuse every part of that.
'They make you feel the most insecure you have felt in your entire life.'
The brunette, who cannot be identified for legal reasons, repeatedly broke down in tears as she recounted her ordeal in an interview with the BBC.
She said the gang asked questions such as 'Who do you live with?' in order to work out 'what kind of protection you've got, what kind of safety you've got, who's going to stick up for you if they do anything'.
She added: 'They actually take advantage of the fact that no one does care about you really. They make you feel as if they're on your side and that you are in a real relationship and they just abuse any feelings of love and caring about people. I think they're evil. I just cannot understand what has made them so evil.'
During the first trial in March, the teenager told the jury she was picked up around 1am then the men bought vodka at a petrol station.
After pulling up in the lane, they got into the back of the car, sitting on either side of her, and began molesting her. She was then forced down and restrained as one of the men raped her.
Sobbing, the teenager told the court that her attacker then got back in the driver's seat and 'put the music on and acted like nothing had happened'.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1332746/Asian-gang-raped-girls-young-12-picking-streets-sex.html#ixzz16HicuH7h
Inside a Sexual Assault Referral Centre
Sarcs were set up to make it easier for victims of rape to come forward for treatment and advice – and to boost the conviction rate of rapists. But is their future funding under threat?
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o Amelia Gentleman
o The Guardian, Thursday 25 November 2010
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The Initial Room is cleaned throroughly to prevent contamination of evidence. The Initial Room is cleaned throroughly to prevent contamination of evidence. Photograph: Christopher Thomond for the Guardian
At 11am a young woman wearing pink striped pyjamas is led into a discreet side entrance of St Mary's hospital, Manchester, by a huge, bearded police officer, keys jangling from the breast pocket of his black nylon stab vest, vast brown paper evidence bags tucked beneath his arm.
She says that in the early hours of that morning she was raped by an acquaintance, a man she had spent the evening chatting to in a pub. The police have brought her here to the Sexual Assault Referral Centre (Sarc) to undergo a forensic examination, receive counselling and be advised on and supported in the process of pressing charges.
Everything about the unit has been designed to avoid further humiliation for the victim. The side door is deliberately unmarked, allowing women who have recently been assaulted to avoid the embarrassment of being paraded through the hospital alongside police. The woman is led to a door marked Initial Room, a forensically safe, sterile space with wipe-clean plastic surfaces so that there is no possible contamination of evidence before she is examined. Pictures of orchids and sacks of brightly coloured oriental spices have been hung in a not wholly successful attempt to dilute the clinical atmosphere. A crisis worker sits with her, explaining what is about to happen, while the officer slips across the corridor to brief the doctor.
He runs through his logbook notes of her account, in curtly formal police officialese. "She visited a public house. She met up with a male," he reads. "The offence happened round about two this morning." He explains that she and a girlfriend had met up with a man she vaguely knew, and later the three of them went back to a house; after some time, he said he wanted to have a word with her in private and when she followed him, he raped her. She was shouting a lot, telling him to get off and to stop, and her friend heard and said she would call the police. "At which point he stopped and left the address," the policeman finishes. Beneath the formality he is gently solicitous for the girl's wellbeing and explains that she is exhausted and has had no sleep.
Manchester's police service has a good reputation for its handling of sexual assaults, and this officer has been given extensive training in how to interview women who have been raped. While he can ask her any of the "when", "where", "what" and "how" questions, he knows he is not to ask "why". A line of questioning that looks at her own decisions, questions her choice to go home with someone, to be alone with them, suggests that she should blame herself for the assault and must be avoided.
The woman walked home by herself and the police arrived at her house in the early hours of the morning to take a statement and collect her jeans and underwear for DNA testing, before bringing her here for a full examination. The doctor, a specialist in handling rape cases, makes her own notes, before going to meet the victim to start a physical examination that will take more than two hours. Someone has stuck a public information poster on the wall above her computer that declares: "Rape – short word, long sentence." But the trouble is that rape, short word or not, usually doesn't result in a long sentence, which is why this unit has been set up.
Campaigners tell us that only 6% of reported rapes in this country end up with the rapist convicted, one of the lowest rates in Europe. The figure is controversial, dismissed by some as unhelpfully discouraging, making victims feel so cynical about the process that they do not bother to press charges. The police point out that the rate of conviction for those who are actually charged with rape is a more encouraging 58%, but there remain a large number of reported rapes where charges are never pressed. Years of hostile treatment in the courts, at police stations, at the hands of juries, has left a lingering sense that rape victims are not believed, and many prefer not to submit to unwelcome scrutiny. The 29 Sarcs in England and Wales are described officially as victim-centred medical units, one-stop shops designed to improve the immediate care provided to rape victims, primarily to help them recover better from the attack, and as a side-effect, to boost the conviction rate by supporting women through the prosecution process.
Sarc is staffed 24-7, with doctors constantly on call, so that victims can be seen quickly whenever they are attacked – usually in the middle of the night (with spikes in numbers around Christmas party time, freshers' week, the hot weeks of summer and any time when people are drinking more than usual).
The unit is equipped to gather the most comprehensive forensic evidence, offer advice on sexually transmitted diseases and pregnancy, and provide counselling and assistance throughout a legal process. For those women who decide not to press charges, the support is still on offer. Clothes are stored, and forensic evidence kept in a freezer for seven years in case they change their mind and want to take legal action later.
Vera Baird, Labour's former solicitor general and a champion of the new system, remembers how badly women were treated as recently as a decade ago. "It's very different from going to a police station and knocking on the glass window, probably in a crowded, noisy waiting room, blood on the floor, to tell someone you'd been raped. You would have had to sit there and wait until they found a police medical officer, who'd perhaps come straight from certifying someone dead in the road, or assessing a heroin addict's ability to give evidence, and who wouldn't be a specialist in this area of forensics," she says. "Sarcs treat you like a patient, someone to whom this has happened, with none of the scepticism of a police officer. This gives people the fortitude to go ahead and report the attack."
Upstairs at the morning meeting there are eight women – doctors, counsellors, independent sexual violence advisers (who help victims navigate the legal process) – discussing the cases that have come through over the weekend. First there is the mother of a three-year-old girl, who suspects that the estranged father may have abused her daughter because she has been complaining of a pain and has started crying when she sees him. The girl is booked to come in for an examination later in the morning.
Then there is a student who had a lot to drink and woke up on the floor of the student accommodation, not knowing what had happened for several hours. She is worried she may have been raped.
Next a 17-year-old woman who had been out drinking with her friends. She met up with three lads, whom she recognised, and ended up in a hotel room; she suspects that her drink was spiked and remembers very little of what happened, just the sensation of her face being pushed on to the bed and her arm being bitten.
Last is a Bulgarian woman, in her 20s, whose story had to be untangled through an interpreter. It seems she has been trafficked, brought over here by a Bulgarian man, with the suggestion that she would be employed to look after his children, and perhaps have an opportunity to marry him at some point in the future. She has been examined and counselled but is unwilling to press charges
"She was looking for a better life, but was treated really badly. She was raped on the first day and only managed to escape after two weeks," a counsellor says. "She's asked the police not to take action because she is frightened about reprisals, because the man knows where she lives in Bulgaria."
Staff run through the cases expressing little emotion, skimming through notes biro'd on to pink paper, elbows on the table. Only occasionally do they wince at an unexpected detail.
Michelle Carol, one of the forensic physicians who perform detailed examinations on victims, says women are not put under any pressure to report the case to the police if they don't want to, but staff will try to help them see that they will be believed. "Sometimes they are nervous about how they will be received by the police. They think they will be blamed. A lot of the time they are blaming themselves anyway – if only I hadn't got drunk, if only I hadn't got in that taxi by myself – so they wonder why anyone else would come to another conclusion. We have to explain that this is not about their behaviour, it is about someone else's," she says.
"The police have historically a bad reputation in this area and it's not something that they have shaken off. The view was that many allegations were false, and that they had to weed them out. Often the public are the same. Sometimes we will get a client who thinks that she hasn't really been raped because it doesn't fit into the stereotype of someone being dragged off the streets and beaten, abused and then violently raped. But the bottom line is if you haven't given consent, it's rape, and that's it."
She says most people have ill-informed preconceptions about how a rape victim will behave. "People think they would shout and fight, but they don't. Often they freeze, do nothing. They think they are going to die and think only about self-preservation. They tell themselves: 'Do what he says and then it will be over, and maybe I will survive.' They don't always want to report the attack straight away. They want to crawl into a corner and forget it," she says.
"We don't want to give the impression that we are judging anyone or blaming them, but alcohol is very often a feature because that is when people are often vulnerable. The majority of rapists are acquaintances or well known to them or someone they have spent an evening chatting to, rather than a total stranger."
Each examination can last up to three or four hours, taken at the individual's pace, and is painstakingly methodical and precise to ensure that nothing is missed and that all the evidence found is carefully measured and noted, so it will stand up to scrutiny in court. The work is inevitably gruelling, and being alone with the victim and one crisis worker for long stretches can be quite isolating. Even after several years with the unit, Carol is still occasionally shocked by "the callousness of human nature", constantly "being exposed to the horror of what humans can do".
"If you were emotionally moved by every case, you would be no help to anyone, so you develop coping mechanisms but it's not always possible," she says. "Gang rape is particularly hard. You can understand that there are individuals who are just nasty pieces of work or who have their own mental health problems, but when you have a group of people, you wonder why none of them stood back and said: 'This is wrong.' We see that on a regular basis."
Staff here have a good sense of why rape cases still do not result in as many successful prosecutions as they should. When cases rest on consent, pitting one person's words against another, with no witness to support either side, then even the most expertly gathered forensic evidence may not secure a conviction.
Sharon Scotson, a DCI with Greater Manchester police, who works with Sarc to try to increase the prosecution rate, says victims need to be handled sensitively right from the start. "If you don't get it right in the first instance – if you don't secure evidence, get witnesses, gather CCTV, if the victim is not dealt with properly the first time – then you could lose an investigation," she says. "If the police officer says, 'Well, why did you do that?' then the victim will be lost straight away."
Part of the problem, she concedes, is that successful campaigns have helped police officers shed preconceptions about rape and sensitised NHS staff in handling these cases, but the general public – from which juries are drawn – remain ill-informed, and so cases will be lost.
"It's down to 12 members of a jury, who will have their own preconceived notions," she says. "We have to rely on our victims being able to vocalise, to be able to justify themselves: 'Why didn't you scream, why didn't you run away, why didn't you defend yourself?'
"The victim has to prove that something has happened to them. If you have had a burglary, you don't have to prove that you have been burgled. People tend to believe you."
Alison Barber, a detective sergeant who heads a rape investigation unit in Manchester, adds: "That's why it's so important to have specially trained police working with Sarcs. The victims who come to speak to us are believed, 100%, and it's our responsibility to gather the evidence and put their case before the courts."
A lot of cases are dropped by the Crown Prosecution Service before they get to court because it judges that there is not a "reasonable chance of conviction". If the victim is classified as "vulnerable" in some way, Home Office research suggests that the chances of conviction drop further. The Manchester Sarc's own analysis shows that the majority of the 1,000 or so women, men and children who visit the unit every year have some kind of vulnerability.
"I've seen everyone, from a prominent member of a political party down to an alcohol- and drug-addicted sex worker, but certain groups are over-represented," the unit's clinical director Dr Catherine White says. "People with mental health problems, alcohol problems, learning difficulties, children in care. That's obvious: predators are going to target the vulnerable. It is like a lion with a herd of gazelles . . . they are going to pick off the weakest. When we did an audit, 55% [of the people seen by the unit] were classified as vulnerable in some way."
She agrees that the women who come in are often inclined in the first instance to blame themselves, and are surprised at the way they've handled the situation. "We explain that just because you flirt with somebody, that doesn't mean you want anal sex in the public toilets down the road 10 minutes later," she says. "Also, people in stressful situations don't always manage to do what they'd like to do. Even if it's just an argument with your boss, you never think of the killer putdown line until later on. You always think, I should have said this or done that. You don't think of it until later."
Bernie Ryan, the centre's manager, would like to see more prosecutions, but she concedes that it's not always the best thing for the woman. "We always have to ask ourselves: 'If it happened to me, who would I want to tell?' If the perpetrator was my best friend's husband I might decide to tell nobody," she says. Still, she believes there is evidence to suggest that more cases are going to court than ever before across Manchester, estimating that the conviction rate there is around 68%, slightly higher than the national average.
The last government was committed to increasing the number of Sarcs across the country, in line with recommendations set out by Baroness Vivien Stern, who published an independent review into how rape complaints are handled just before the election. Campaigners have been alarmed by signals from the new government, with its early announcement of anonymity for rape defendants (only reversed earlier this month, after widespread fury), and there was further dismay at a decision by home secretary Theresa May to cancel an inquiry into what lessons could be learned from flawed police handling of the John Worboys and Kirk Reid rape cases (a London taxi driver and a chef and children's football coach who were both, separately, allowed to rape and sexually assault multiple victims before being caught).
A Home Office spokesman would only comment: "The government remains committed to ensuring every victim has access to the dedicated medical and support services they need to help them through their ordeal."
But Stern recently voiced concern that her recommendations would be ignored in the rush to find services that could easily be cut. "It would be very, very sad if we went back to the bad old days where rape victims were dealt with by untrained police and when they need a forensic examination they wait for hours in the custody suite for a police surgeon. We don't want to go back to those days," she said in a BBC interview. "Rape victims must not be forgotten."
Ryan says she would be "foolish not to be concerned" about future funding, but for the moment she is optimistic that their work is too valued to be lost.
In the children's room, where an effort has been made to cheer the atmosphere up with framed photographs of jelly babies and pink-iced cupcakes, Joanne Muccio, a child advocate, has been preparing a 13-year-old for a doctor's meeting and counselling. The girl was raped about two months ago by a family friend. She reported it a few weeks later and a test showed that she had been infected with chlamydia. It's too long ago for any forensic evidence to remain (a week is the outside limit), but the meeting will focus on offering support to the mother, who is very distressed, counselling the girl and discussing the legal process.
"If it's a child, I always ask them first: Do you have a loud voice? Do you know how to shout? You just shout, 'I don't want to do that, Joanne!' if you don't want to do anything," she says, anxious to ensure that a physical examination never echoes the original assault.
Downstairs in the examination suite, the doctor has finished collecting evidence from the 18-year-old who was raped in the night, and she has fallen asleep on a sofa in the room next door, waiting for the policeman to finish sealing up the evidence bags and drive her home. The doctor has found a scratch on the inside leg. "That doesn't show that it was forced, but there is more likely to be an injury if it is; the evidence would suggest that if you have an injury it is more likely to have been non-consensual. Still, most of the people we see don't have any injuries. Even if you have never had sex before it's quite likely there won't be any injuries. People don't realise that," she says.
The patient was not overtly distraught, the doctor says. "She was pretty exhausted. She said, 'I feel dirty,' which is what many say. Very few are overtly distressed by the time they get here. Very few are desperately, desperately upset. They feel they just have to keep on going. We do laugh and joke. The crisis worker will be there, on the side of the bed, holding her hand."
She thinks the case will hinge, as many cases do, on consent: "I just gather the evidence. I can't judge because I don't know the full story." The girl plans to press charges, but a formal police video interview will not be done until the following day, to allow her to get some sleep. The police officer hopes her resolve will not waver.
"Rape is one of the hardest offences to prove. That's the problem. A lot depends on how the victim comes across in interviews, how they come across on the stand, as to how the jury takes it," the officer says.
"You sometimes wish they would report, but knowing what happens when they go through the justice system you can understand why so many don't," the doctor says.
Even those who do not go on to report a rape will receive support from the staff for several weeks if they want it. White says the impact of their work is often visible in the demeanour of the woman as she leaves the unit. "The person who walks out two or three hours later is hugely different to the one who walked in. They might well be smiling. You treat them like human beings. It is part of the healing process," she says. http://www.stmaryscentre.org/
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SWITZERLAND is considering changing its incest laws to make sexual relations between family members LEGAL.
It claims the law banning incest is "obsolete", adding that the courts have dealt with just three cases since 1984.
The upper house of the Swiss parliament has drafted a law decriminalising sex between consenting family members which must now be considered by the government.
Switzerland insists that children within families will continue to be protected by laws governing abuse and paedophilia.
Politicians of both the left and right are said to be outraged at the suggested change.
But Green party MP and lawyer Daniel Vischer said he saw nothing wrong with two consenting adults having sex — even if they were related.
He added: "Incest is a difficult moral question, but not one that is answered by penal law."
Barbara Schmid Federer of The Christian People's Party of Switzerland slammed the proposal, saying it was "completely repugnant".
She said: "I for one could not countenance painting out such a law from the statute books."
The Protestant People's Party is also opposed to decriminalising the offence which at present carries a maximum three year jail term.
A spokesman for the party said: "Murder is also quite rare in Switzerland but no-one suggests that we remove that as an office from the statutes."
Members of the Swiss People's Party are calling for the proposed amendment to be struck down immediately and for incest laws to actually be beefed up.
Justice minister Simonetta Sommaruga has yet to decide whether to implement the proposal.
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Kosovo physicians accused of illegal organs removal racket
Medicus clinic linked in Council of Europe report to alleged Kosovo Liberation Army organ harvesting atrocities
yusuf sonmez
Turkish doctor Yusuf Sonmez, one of seven accused in Pristina of involvement in an illegal organs racket.
The story of how Kosovo hosted an illegal market in human organs began to unfold today in a district court in the capital, Pristina. As armed special forces stood outside, the court heard how desperate Russians, Moldovans, Kazakhs and Turks were lured into the capital "with the false promise of payments" for their kidneys.
EU prosecutor Jonathan Ratel told the court the organs had been illegally removed from victims and transplanted into wealthy recipients in the clinic, known as Medicus. Those who paid up to €90,000 (£76,400) for the black-market kidneys included patients from Canada, Germany, Poland and Israel, Ratel said.
Huddled in the centre of the room, in overcoats, were seven defendants alleged to have played some role in the racket. Among them were some of Kosovo's most respected physicians, including a former permanent secretary of health who is accused of abusing office to grant Medicus a false licence, and Dr Lutfi Dervishi, a urologist at the university hospital alleged to have set up the operation.
Two of their co-accused are fugitives wanted by Interpol: Moshe Harel, an Israeli said to have matched donors with recipients, and Yusuf Sonmez, perhaps the world's most renowned organ trafficker.
The story would be shocking enough if it ended there. But what the court did not hear is that the Medicus clinic has been linked in a Council of Europe report to a wider network of Albanian organised criminals. They are said to have had close links to senior officials in Kosovo's government, including the prime minister, Hashim Thaçi. Their supposed links to the underground organ market allegedly go back more than a decade when, in its most gruesome incarnation, the operation is said to have involved removing kidneys from murder victims. The allegations are contained in an official report into Kosovo's organ trade produced by the human rights rapporteur Dick Marty and obtained by the Guardian.
The Swiss senator conducted a two-year inquiry into organised crime in Kosovo after the Council of Europe mandated him to investigate claims of organ harvesting bythe Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA) after the war with Serbia ended in 1999.
The claims initially surfaced two years ago, when the former chief war crimes prosecutor at The Hague, Carla Del Ponte, said she had been prevented from properly investigating alleged atrocities committed by the KLA. Marty's report suggests the KLA held Serbs and other captives in secret detention centres in Albania for almost a year after the war ended. A small number of prisoners, the report suggests, were transferred to a makeshift clinic just north of the capital Tirana, where they were shot in the head before their kidneys were removed.
The Albanian connection
The criminal trail is said to begin across the southern border, in the lawless mountains of northern Albania.
Serbia has long complained of atrocities committed by the KLA after July 1999, when Nato-led air strikes forced Slobodan Milosevic's troops to retreat from the province. Marty finds evidence for those concerns, stating that Kosovo's guerrilla army formed "a formidable power base in the organised criminal enterprises" in Kosovo and Albania. A group known as Drenica, led by Thaçi, became the KLA's dominant faction and senior KLA figures from the group hold senior positions in Kosovo's government today.
In 1999, Thaçi was identified as the most dangerous of the KLA's "criminal bosses" by intelligence reports, according to Marty. Thaçi's KLA group is also said to be the main organisation responsible for smuggling prisoners across the porous border. They were held in a network of detention facilities converted from warehouses, farm buildings and a disused factory. The report, , which states that it is not a criminal investigation and is unable to pronounce judgments of guilt or innocence, focuses on a key figure said to have played a central role in the organ operation. A KLA medical commander based in Albania, Shaip Muja remains a close confidante of Thaçi's, and is currently a political adviser in the office of the prime minister, with responsibility for health. "We have uncovered numerous convergent indications of Muja's central role [in] international networks, comprising human traffickers, brokers of illicit surgical procedures, and other perpetrators of organised crime," the report states.
Marty estimates that 40 captives survived being held prisoner in Albania, and are alive today. Others are thought to have been killed, including "scores" who he says were taken across the border after the war ended.
Among the makeshift prisons where captives were held, Marty identifies the famed Yellow House, near the town of Burrel. When the Guardian visited the property two years ago, the owners – the Katuci family – became hostile and denied wrongdoing. While the report concludes the Katuci family home was not the site of organ harvesting, it states that captive Serbs were taken there after the Katucis moved out and the KLA took over the property. The Yellow House and other ad hoc jails function as way stations in which KLA operatives selected candidates for organ removal, Marty says.
After medical checks and blood tests, he says a "handful" were moved to a farmhouse in Fushë-Krujë, a town north of the Albanian capital, Tirana. According to the report, some of these prisoners became aware of the fate that awaited them, and are said to have pleaded not to be "chopped into pieces". The report adds: "The testimonies on which we based our findings spoke credibly and consistently of a methodology by which all of the captives were killed, usually by a gunshot to the head, before being operated on to remove one or more of their organs."
The Guardian has established that organs are believed to have been shipped to Istanbul, in a criminal racket operated by Yusuf Sonmez, the same Turkish doctor wanted by Interpol for his alleged involvement in the Medicus clinic.
Pristina airport
An incident at Pristina airport finally led police down a dirt track to Medicus, a nondescript building around six miles away.
When a 23-year-old Turkish man, Yilman Altun, fainted in front of customs officials in November 2008 while he waited for his flight to Istanbul officials lifted his shirt and discovered a fresh scar on his abdomen. The next day, Kosovo police raided Medicus and discovered a 74-year-old Israeli, Bezalel Shafran, who, according to the indictment read out in court today, revealed he had paid €90,000 for a stolen kidney. Both "donor" and recipient identified Sonmez as having been involved in the surgical procedure. That discovery triggered the investigation that led to the start of legal proceedings in Pristina today . After the confirmation hearing, Judge Hugo Pardal will consider whether there is sufficient evidence to proceed to trial. Ratel told the court police had uncovered detailed evidence of organ transplants at the clinic, including records of wire transfers for payments and blood tests taken before the procedures. He estimated there were 20-30 victims in the first eight months of 2008 alone, all tricked into believing they would be paid for their organs by middle men in Istanbul.
All defendants in the Medicus case pleaded not guilty.
Regardless of the outcome of the case, it will be the alleged link between Medicus and KLA organ harvesting that will receive most attention when Marty's report is presented for adoption by an 83-member committee of the Council of Europe in Paris on Thursday . The connection is made explicit in Marty's findings, which refer to "credible, convergent indications" that the removal of organs from prisoners in Albania a decade ago is "closely related to the contemporary case of the Medicus clinic". In making the link, Marty refers to prominent "Kosovan Albanian and international figures" who figure as "co-conspirators" in both organ rackets. Their names have been omitted from the report "out of respect" to the Kosovo judicial process.
However, senior Kosovo government sources have told the Guardian those figures are almost certainly Shaip Muja and Yusuf Sonmez. They are the two names mentioned independently by a Washington-based intelligence source who has monitored criminal networks involving KLA figures since 1999. The source described the pair as "the common thread" tying Medicus to KLA activities in 1999 and 2000.
"It is Muja who got into business with Yusuf Sonmez on his trips to Turkey around the time of the Kosovo war, which resulted in kidneys being secreted out of Albania to Istanbul," the source said. "It's no coincidence that he also played a role in the creation of Medicus, less than a decade later."
The source added: "In many respects the two are similar operations. In both cases, you've got illegal outfits linking senior players among the Kosovar Albanians trading in the organs of innocent victims, playing into an international racket to profit from the surgeries of Sonmez."
* Paul Lewis in Pristina
* guardian.co.uk, Tuesday 14 December 2010 15.17 GMT
And guess who is now leading Kosovo:
Kosovo PM is head of human organ and arms ring, Council of Europe reports
Two-year inquiry accuses Albanian 'mafia-like' crime network of killing Serb prisoners for their kidneys
Hashim Thaci, prime minister of Kosovo
Hashim Thaci, prime minister of Kosovo. Photograph: Dieter Nagl/AFP/Getty Images
Kosovo's prime minister is the head of a "mafia-like" Albanian group responsible for smuggling weapons, drugs and human organs through eastern Europe, according to a Council of Europe inquiry report on organised crime.
Hashim Thaçi is identified as the boss of a network that began operating criminal rackets in the runup to the 1999 Kosovo war, and has held powerful sway over the country's government since.
The report of the two-year inquiry, which cites FBI and other intelligence sources, has been obtained by the Guardian. It names Thaçi as having over the last decade exerted "violent control" over the heroin trade. Figures from Thaçi's inner circle are also accused of taking captives across the border into Albania after the war, where a number of Serbs are said to have been murdered for their kidneys, which were sold on the black market.
Legal proceedings began in a Pristina district court today into a case of alleged organ trafficking discovered by police in 2008. That case – in which organs are said to have been taken from impoverished victims at a clinic known as Medicus – is said by the report to be linked to Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA) organ harvesting in 2000. It comes at a crucial period for Kosovo, which on Sunday held its first elections since declaring independence from Serbia in 2008. Thaçi claimed victory in the election and has been seeking to form a coalition with opposition parties.
Dick Marty, the human rights investigator behind the inquiry, will present his report to European diplomats from all 47 member states at a meeting in Paris on Thursday. His report suggests Thaçi's links with organised crime date back more than a decade, when those loyal to his Drenica group came to dominate the KLA, and seized control of "most of the illicit criminal enterprises" in which Kosovans were involved south of the border, in Albania.
During the Kosovo conflict Slobodan Miloševic's troops responded to attacks by the KLA by orchestrating a horrific campaign against ethnic Albanians in the territory. As many as 10,000 are estimated to have died at the hands of Serbian troops.
While deploring Serb atrocities, Marty said the international community chose to ignore suspected war crimes by the KLA, "placing a premium instead on achieving some degree of short-term stability". He concludes that during the Kosovo war and for almost a year after, Thaçi and four other members of the Drenica group named in the report carried out "assassinations, detentions, beatings and interrogations". This same hardline KLA faction has held considerable power in Kosovo's government over the last decade, with the support of western powers keen to ensure stability in the fledgling state.
The report paints a picture in which ex-KLA commanders have played a crucial role in the region's criminal activity. It says: "In confidential reports spanning more than a decade, agencies dedicated to combating drug smuggling in at least five countries have named Hashim Thaçi and other members of his Drenica group as having exerted violent control over the trade in heroin and other narcotics."
Marty says: "Thaçi and these other Drenica group members are consistently named as 'key players' in intelligence reports on Kosovo's mafia-like structures of organised crime. I have examined these diverse, voluminous reports with consternation and a sense of moral outrage."
His inquiry was commissioned after the former chief prosecutor for war crimes at the Hague, Carla Del Ponte, said she had been prevented from investigating senior KLA officials. Her most shocking claim, which she said required further investigation, was that the KLA smuggled captive Serbs across the border into Albania, where their organs were harvested.
The report, which states that it is not a criminal investigation and unable to pronounce judgments of guilt or innocence, gives some credence to Del Ponte's claims.
It finds the KLA did hold mostly Serb captives in a secret network of six detention facilities in northern Albania, and that Thaçi's Drenica group "bear the greatest responsibility" for prisons and the fate of those held in them.
They include a "handful" of prisoners said to have been transferred to a makeshift prison just north of Tirana, where they were killed for their kidneys.
The report states: "As and when the transplant surgeons were confirmed to be in position and ready to operate, the captives were brought out of the 'safe house' individually, summarily executed by a KLA gunman, and their corpses transported swiftly to the operating clinic.''
The same Kosovan and foreign individuals involved in the macabre killings are linked to the Medicus case, the report finds.
Marty is critical of the western powers which have provided a supervisory role in Kosovo's emergence as a state, for failing to hold senior figures, including Thaçi, to account. His report criticises "faltering political will on the part of the international community to effectively prosecute the former leaders of the KLA".
It concludes: "The signs of collusion between the criminal class and the highest political and institutional office holders are too numerous and too serious to be ignored.
"It is a fundamental right of Kosovo's citizens to know the truth, the whole truth, and also an indispensable condition for reconciliation between the communities and the country's prosperous future."
If as expected the report is formally adopted by the committee this week, the findings will go before the parliamentary assembly next year.
The Kosovo government tonight dismissed the allegations, claiming they were the produce of "despicable and bizarre actions by people with no moral credibility".
"Today, the Guardian published an article that referred to a report from a member of the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe, Dick Marty, which follows up on past reports published over the last 12 years aiming at maligning the war record of the Kosovo Liberation Army and its leaders," it said in a statement.
"The allegations have been investigated several times by local and international judiciary, and in each case, it was concluded that such statements have were not based on facts and were construed to damage the image of Kosovo and the war of the Kosovo Liberation Army.
"It is clear that someone wants to place obstacles in the way of prime minister, Hashim Thaçi, after the general election, in which the people of Kosovo placed their clear and significant trust in him to deliver the development programme and governance of our country.
"Such despicable and bizarre actions by people with no moral credibility, serve the ends of only those specific circles that do not wish well to Kosovo and its people."
* Paul Lewis in Pristina
* guardian.co.uk, Tuesday 14 December 2010 15.17 GMT
Colin Blanchard could spend life in jail for role in paedophile ring
Judge gives former IT consultant an indeterminate sentence, emphasising he is so dangerous that he may never be freed
* Steven Morris
* guardian.co.uk, Monday 10 January 2011 18.36 GMT
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Colin Blanchard trial Colin Blanchard was described as a 'manipulator who used people for his own ends', by Detective Constable Andy Pilling, above centre, outside Bristol crown court. Photograph: Matt Cardy/Getty Images
Colin Blanchard, the IT consultant who created and shared images of child sex abuse with nursery worker Vanessa George, could spend the rest of his life in jail for his role as the "hub" of a paedophile ring.
Blanchard was given an indeterminate sentence for the protection of the public after being described today by the sentencing judge, Mr Justice Royce, as "warped, wicked, dangerous, devious and manipulative".
Royce said the parole board should not consider Blanchard for release until he had served at least nine years but was keen to emphasise that he was so dangerous he might never be freed.
"I have no doubt whatsoever that Colin Blanchard constitutes a high risk of serious harm to children," he said. Addressing Blanchard directly, he continued: "If the parole board is not satisfied it is safe to you to be released then you will remain in prison for the rest of your days."
Royce said Blanchard, 40, was a "Svengali-like" character, a "predator" who encouraged four women, including George, to abuse children and take pictures of that abuse. "Your pernicious grooming of women whose sexual interest in children you stimulate, then nurture and feed on is plain to see. You were the hub of this paedophile wheel," he said.
Also sentenced were former adult careworkers Tracy Lyons, 41, and Tracy Dawber, 44, who were both jailed for four years. George, 40, and the fourth woman, Angela Allen, 40, are already serving indeterminate sentences.
Outside Bristol crown court, police said they believed they had found all of those involved in the ring. Detective Constable Andy Pilling, of Greater Manchester Police, said Blanchard was a "manipulator who used people for his own ends." He said it was "possible" that without Blanchard the women would never have abused children but added: "No one should be under the misapprehension that they were somehow forced into abusing children – they willingly took part."
The sentencing means all members of what the Crown Prosecution Service has described as "one of the most sickening paedophile rings this country has seen" are behind bars.
But the judge reminded the court that the impact of the group's crimes would be felt for many years yet.
The case, he said, had caused "widespread revulsion and disbelief." He told Blanchard: "With your encouragement Vanessa George used her position as nursery worker at Little Ted's nursery [in Plymouth] to photograph herself abusing little children in her care. You must have known what a terrible breach of trust that was going to involve. You did not care a jot."
Royce said e-mails and texts between Blanchard, George and the fifth woman, Angela Allan, were "deeply disturbing." He flagged up one in which Blanchard discussed with George "raping a baby until it dies". "These and others are sickening and reveal attitudes of breathtaking depravity," said the judge. "You also made it clear in communications with Vanessa George that you had groomed or were in the process of grooming a mother who had young children."
Defending Blanchard, Greville Davis said he had been abused as a child by an uncle and his uncle's friends, which had left a "deep psychological scar". The uncle is now dead.
For Lyons, Stephen Smyth, said she was a "vulnerable" woman who was "targeted" by Blanchard. Dawber's barrister, Anne Brown said Blanchard was a person who could "draw" women in. He had appeared to be a "lifeline" to her when she was lonely and isolated. Dawber, the only woman who had actually met Blanchard before the ring was discovered, had grown "dependent on him".
The gang was brought to justice after a work colleague of Blanchard found child abuse images on his computer in June 2009 and called police. Detectives discovered that Blanchard met the women on Facebook and possibly on other sites and encouraged them to abuse children and share the images of the abuse taking place.
Blanchard, of Rochdale, George, of Plymouth, Allen, from Nottinghamshire, and Lyons, of Portsmouth, pleaded guilty to a string of charges of sexual assault and making and possessing child pornography.
Dawber, who was from Merseyside, was found guilty by a jury of sexually abusing a child and allowing Blanchard himself to take pictures of it.
It emerged during the sentencing hearing that Lyons had worked as a volunteer for a nursery – though only on two occasions and always while with others.
The judge addressed remarks directly to Blanchard who declined to stand in the dock because he said he could not bear to be close to Dawber.
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Mongols and Hells Angels Invade Hiptown
Echo Park and Los Feliz see influx of violent, clashing criminal biker groups
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The soft-spoken guitarist recalls hearing, " 'All you motherfuckers are going to die'" and "then I just saw muzzle flashes."
Part Time Punks producer Michael Stock at the Echo
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Reaching for his coffee as a tremble in his hand attenuates up his tattoo-sleeved forearm, the musician says of his tremor, "It's nothing — a family thing."
But it may have something to do with getting rained on by a barrage of bullets fired at close range on a busy commercial stretch of Echo Park. Today, the guitarist offers insight into two criminal biker groups that are clashing in Los Angeles, leading one biker to act out a violent video game–style fantasy that targeted innocent clubgoers.
As the Echo's weekly Part Time Punks show let out in the early morning of June 21, witnesses say, a black-clad, automatic weapon–wielding gunman lumbered into the middle of Sunset Boulevard and calmly fired round after round into the exiting crowd on the sidewalk before fleeing on his motorcycle.
There are Los Angeles neighborhoods where, when someone flashes a firearm, the fight-or-flight instinct kicks in. Not here, on Sunset north of Echo Park Lake, among record shops and ironic storefronts such as Dave Eggers' Time Travel Mart. The shooter actually announced his intent to kill, yet the crowd stood passively as if watching a performance-art piece.
"It seemed so cheesy, I thought it was a joke," says the guitarist, 30, whom we'll call Brad; he's a witness in the gunman's trial and fears for his life. "When he started shooting, I just stood there staring at him. I couldn't believe anyone would fire a gun into a crowd of nerdy indie-rock kids.
"After four shots, that changed," Brad says. "He shifted his fire toward [the Echo's] doorway, and I finally ducked." And saved his own ass.
The bullets, which bit chunks of concrete off the Echo's crudely candy-colored façade, all hit high. Amazingly — Die Hard 2 ridiculously — Brad, though struck in the head, suffered only a grazed temple, with another bullet leaving a burn across his wrist.
Two other clubgoers weren't so lucky. A drummer caught a round in his arm, which shattered the bone, and now, months later, his music career is probably over. Another guitarist languished for months in the hospital following complications from a bullet tearing through his torso.
Amy Lee, vocalist for the Meek, had just collected her band's pay when she stepped out of the Echo and saw the shooter. "I froze," Lee recalls. "It didn't register. This guy in a big jacket, screaming like a bear — I didn't think it was real."
Luckily someone knocked Lee to the ground, and a girl dragged her inside, out of harm's way.
Los Angeles Police Department detectives were initially baffled. The Echo isn't a hub of criminal activity, and Part Time Punks is just that. This is where the bloodless and the twee, guys who can't bench-press their shirts, chicks in leopard-print dresses, have no natural predators.
At the time, an LAPD supervisor at Rampart Division could only comment, "This is kind of weird."
But the LAPD quickly established that among fans of the dark, psychedelic music churned out by garage rockers the Warlocks and the Meek are members of the Hells Angels Motorcycle Club. "We're going over the security tape and see there's a 'full-patch' Hells Angel in the club," says Officer Jose Mireles, of Rampart Division, meaning a full-fledged member, "and he's the victim" of the attempted hit.
A blood feud between the Mongol Nation Motorcycle Club and the Hells Angels has not abated since "Operation Black Rain" in 2008, in which 1,000 local cops, feds and deputized Alcohol, Tobacco & Firearms agents arrested 60 members of the Mongol MC in five states.
Less than a month after the Echo shooting, LAPD's Mireles, along with other Rampart cops, arrested Jose Luis Sanchez, 25, a Mongol "prospect," in his Hollenbeck area home, for the crime.
"This is an ongoing battle for territory," Mireles says, "and it's all about the California bottom rocker" — the word California written in Gothic lettering on both the Mongols' and the Hells Angels' jacket patches, which are considered a gang's colors. The patch, Mireles says, is a message to others: "I sell my drugs here, and you're not allowed to."
Police say that shortly before the Echo Park shooting spree, Sanchez, who now faces several counts of attempted murder, assault and weapons charges, somehow was alerted to the presence of a Hells Angels member at the Echo. As if inspired by video game Assassin's Creed — where cred is built by attracting the most witnesses to a killing — Sanchez allegedly engaged his target, the Hells Angel, in front of dozens of witnesses, while being taped by video surveillance cameras.
"I felt terrible, after I invited people to the show and something this tragic happened," says Lee, vocalist for the Meek. "Afterwards, we didn't book a show, we didn't know why this happened. Only now do I feel normal again."
Police won't identify the victims, because Sanchez's trial is ongoing, with another court appearance set for Jan. 18. "Mongols have a reputation for intimidating witnesses," Mireles tells L.A. Weekly.
Cops: Tattoo artist charged with sex assault
BY KIM JANSSEN Staff reporter Jan 9, 2011 05:22PM
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A tattoo artist raped his girlfriend using tattoo tools above a near West Side tattoo parlor, authorities allege.
Jef Whitehead, 42, allegedly choked and beat his 26-year-old girlfriend unconscious by banging her head against a wall above Taylor Street Tattoo and Piercing, 1150 W. Taylor, in the early hours of Saturday morning.
He also attacked her with a pair of scissors, it's alleged.
When she regained consciousness she discovered she had been sexually assaulted with the tattoo tools, Assistant Cook County State's Attorney Tom McGuire said.
Whitehead then allegedly knocked her out again, McGuire said. When the victim woke up she was in the street outside the parlor, he added.
A heavily-bearded and tattooed Whitehead was dressed all in black as he appeared before Judge Israel Desierto Sunday morning.
Wearing a hooded sweater with the words "stop the madness" printed on it, he was ordered held on bail of $350,000.
Whitehead is from California but he and his girlfriend had recently arrived in Chicago and were considering making it their permanent home, McGuire said.
Contributing: Rosemary Sobol
http://www.suntimes.com/news/crime/3229375-418/according-whitehead-police-tattoo-report.html
AKA Wrest of Black Metal bands Leviathan, Lurker Of Chalice, Von Goat, Twilight et c.
Fuck I guess Leviathan/LoC really is over with. At least until the prison come-back album!
But this cracked me up from the article before, "I couldn't believe anyone would fire a gun into a crowd of nerdy indie-rock kids."
I can't believe it hasn't happened sooner...
I count to 1 allege, 1 alleged and 2 allegedly in that text. Give me hard evidence and I'll believe it, I'll reserve judgement till then.
Child sex trafficking in UK on the rise with even younger victims targeted
White, black and Asian children at risk with abusers using mobiles and web to groom victims, say Barnardo's
* Alexandra Topping
* The Guardian, Monday 17 January 2011
* Article history
Child abuse victim Tim, a victim of abuse who was 14 when he was groomed by one man. Photograph: Martin Godwin for the Guardian
The trafficking of British children around UK cities for sexual exploitation is on the increase with some as young as 10 being groomed by predatory abusers, a report reveals today.
The average age of victims of such abuse has fallen from 15 to about 13 in five years, according to the report by Barnardo's, the UK's biggest children's charity.
But victims continue to be missed as telltale signs are overlooked "from the frontline of children's services to the corridors of Whitehall," said Anne Marie Carrie, the charity's new chief executive.
"Wherever we have looked for exploitation, we have found it. But the real tragedy is we believe this is just the tip of the iceberg," she said.
Calling for a minister to be put in charge of the government's response, she said: "Without a minister with overall responsibility the government response is likely to remain inadequate."
The main findings from the report, called Puppet on a String, include:
• Trafficking becoming more common and sexual exploitation more organised.
• Grooming methods becoming more sophisticated as abusers use a range of technology – mobile phones, including texts and picture messages, Bluetooth technology, and the internet – to control and abuse children.
The charity dealt with 1,098 children who had been groomed for sex last year, a 4% increase on the previous year.
A recent focus on the ethnicity of abusers risks putting more children in danger, said Carrie. "I am not going to say that ethnicity is not an issue in some geographical areas, it clearly is. But to think of it as the only determining factor is misleading and dangerous."
The issue has come under the spotlight after cases in Derby, where ringleaders of a gang of Asian men were jailed for grooming girls as young as 12 for sex, and in Rochdale, where nine mainly Asian men were arrested on Tuesday last week on suspicion of grooming a group of white teenage girls.
Carrie warned of the risk of the issue becoming dangerously simplified after comments from the former home secretary Jack Straw, who said some Pakistani men saw white girls as "easy meat".
The charity dealt with white, black and Asian victims, she said – whose voices were being lost. "Profiling and stereotyping is dangerous – we are scared that victims will say: 'I don't fit into that pattern, so I'm not being abused'."
The report identifies many different patterns of abuse, ranging from inappropriate relationships to organised networks of child trafficking.
Of Barnardo's 22 specialist services surveyed for the report, 21 had seen evidence of the trafficking of children through organised networks for sex, often with multiple men.
Among the cases highlighted is Emma, who met her first "boyfriend" when she was 14. In his 30s, he bought her presents, said he loved her, then forced her to have sex with his friends. She was shipped around the country and raped by countless men. "I got taken to flats, I don't know where they were and men would be brought to me. I was never given any names, and I don't remember their faces," she said.
The "inappropriate relationship" usually involved an older abuser with control over a child. Such cases included Sophie, who was 13 when she met her "gorgeous" 18-year-old boyfriend at a cousin's 21st birthday party. After initially treating her well, he isolated her from her family and became violent. When police rescued her, they told her the man was 34, with a criminal record for child abuse. "I said they were lying. I thought I was in love, I thought it was normal," she said.
The "boyfriend" model, sees girls groomed, often by a younger man, who passes her on to older men. In one case an Asian teenager from the north-west described being dragged out of a car by her hair by her "boyfriend", who took her to a hotel room "to have his friends over and do what they wanted to me".
Boys are also vulnerable: a 14-year-old, Tim, was groomed by one man then expected to have sex with many more. "After a while there would be three or four guys all at once. It was horrible and very scary," he said.
Abusers are increasingly using the internet and mobile phone technology to control victims. Teens are being coerced into sending, or posing for, sexually explicit photos which are then used to blackmail and control them, said Carrie. "The abuser then sells the images, and threatens to send the pictures to the girl's parents or school if she does not do x, y and z."
Often abusers target the most vulnerable: children in care, foster homes or from chaotic backgrounds. But children of all backgrounds are at risk, said Carrie.
Penny Nicholls, director of children and young people at The Children's Society, said the Barnardo's findings echoed their experiences. "We join Barnardo's in calling on the government to take urgent action, ensuring a minister has special responsibility for overseeing a countrywide response to combat sexual exploitation."
A Department for Education spokeswoman said: "This is a complex problem and we are determined to tackle it effectively by working collaboratively right across government and with national and local agencies."
More proof of how brimful of love the world is:
Second disabled woman is identified in abuse video
January 14, 2011 | 6:36 pm
Authorities said they have located a second victim shown on a gruesome video showing disabled women being sexually abused by men.
Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department officials said Friday that they served search warrants at three residences as part of the ongoing investigation.
Ernie Lloyd, 37, of Los Angeles was arrested Saturday after he turned himself in to Los Angeles police in Hollywood in connection with the assault of an unidentified 25-year-old woman shown in the video.
The video, given to sheriff's deputies by an anonymous source, shows men having sex with women, many of whom appear to be disabled, with some in wheelchairs and wearing diapers.
But prosecutors said the tapes alone are not sufficient evidence, telling Sheriff's Department detectives that they need to provide more facts about the women's medical histories, level of disabilities and other information.
"In order to effect a filing, we would either have to prove that the victim did not consent to the sexual acts or she was unable to consent to the sexual acts," the district attorney's office wrote in a memo. "There is insufficient evidence to prove either of these theories beyond a reasonable doubt."
The Sheriff's Department did not directly comment on the district attorney's decision. But in a statement issued after prosecutors had turned back the case, sheriff's officials said they had gathered large amounts of evidence, including an intensive interview with an alleged victim, who told them she was sexually assaulted at a residential care facility in Los Angeles.
The department said the woman specifically named Lloyd and a second suspect, Bert Hicks, as being among those who assaulted her, according to the statement. Hicks is serving a state prison sentence.
-- Andrew Blankstein
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/01/2nd-disabled-woman-identified-in-abuse-video-la-sheriff-serves-warrants.html
Mark Kennedy case: News of sexual liaisons may result in civil actions
Lawyers say there may be grounds for common law actions for negligence after news of undercover policeman's relationships
* guardian.co.uk, Thursday 13 January 2011 20.36 GMT
* Article history
Mark Kennedy News of Mark Kennedy's sexual relationships has fuelled speculation ahout civil lawsuits.
News of undercover policeman Mark Kennedy's sexual relationships with environmental activists has fuelled speculation about the possibility of civil lawsuits, as experts say there may be legal grounds for action.
The Guardian revealed on Monday that Kennedy had infiltrated environmental protest groups over seven years before quitting the police in March last year.
The six protesters – whose trial for conspiring to shut down Ratcliffe-on-Soar power station collapsed earlier this week – and several women who had sexual relationships with Kennedy while they believed him to be a fellow activist are expected to consider bringing civil claims against the police for the way the operation was conducted.
There are also question marks over previous cases that may have involved undercover intelligence gathered by Kennedy. If lawyers could show that he acted as an agent provocateur that could provide grounds for appeal.
Although there are few published rules on the conduct of undercover police operations, lawyers say there may be grounds for common law actions for negligence or misfeasance in public office.
If the protesters or the women could show that the police owed them a duty of care, there is a possibility for a claim of negligence. "If it can be shown that the police have a responsibility, then there could be grounds for a case," said Stephen Cragg, barrister at Doughty Street chambers. "There are just no guidelines on this kind of situation. It is very difficult to establish a duty of care, but if he was sleeping with these women in order to gain information from them, then there may be a strong case."
He said that any case would be likely to be settled by police, to prevent the courts setting precedents for future claimants.
"It could well be that if a claim was brought, the police might not want to risk a judgment saying that such a duty was established," said Cragg.
Women who had intimate relationships with Kennedy would have to show that they suffered damage, such as a recognised psychiatric condition, as a result of discovering his identity was false.
But the possibility of claims under the Human Rights Act, which guarantees respect for private life at the hands of public authorities, would circumvent the need for specific loss or damage as a result of the relationship with Kennedy.
Home Office guidance on the activities of covert human intelligence sources, which includes the police, recognises the likelihood that human rights issues could arise when relationships are formed between undercover officers and the public.
"Article 8 [of the European Convention on Human Rights] includes the right to establish and develop relationships," the guidance says. "Accordingly, any manipulation of a relationship by a public authority (eg one party having a covert purpose on behalf of a public authority) is likely to engage Article 8, regardless of whether or not the public authority intends to acquire private information."
"It is therefore strongly recommended that a public authority consider an authorisation whenever the use or conduct of a CHIS [Covert Human Intelligence Source] is likely to engage an individual's rights under Article 8, whether this is through obtaining information, particularly private information, or simply through the covert manipulation of a relationship."
But as senior figures including the former Director of Public Prosecutions Lord Macdonald questioned whether a seven-year undercover operation could ever be properly authorised, a violation of the right to privacy seemed increasingly likely.
A separate issue is whether previous convictions of environmental protestors are safe. Mark Kennedy's involvement as agent provocateur in actions might provide grounds for appeal, but during a trial it is difficult for the defence to have access to such information unless it is formally disclosed by the proscecution. Defence lawyers have long complained that the odds are stacked against them because the other side can decide what information they reveal. Since 1996, the law has made prosecutors and police responsible for informing the defence about evidence which may be relevant to their case. But lawyers say the system frequently fails to ensure fair trials.
"There is a feeling at the defence bar that disclosure does not always work very well," said Paul Mendelle QC, a criminal defence barrister at 25 Bedford Row. "The prosecution are meant to look at the unused material and objectively decide whether it supports the defence case or undermines the prosecution, but with the best will in the world, it's very difficult to do that as a prosecutor or police officer."
LOL
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biker debauchery
http://bikers.viviti.com/entries/general/hells-angel-associate-now-aged-43-was-sentenced-to-14-yearsimprisonment
Hells Angel associate, now aged 43, was sentenced to 14 years imprisonment in 2001 for the sickening attack a year earlier plus representative charges for violating a 13-year-old boy in a similar manner in 1991.
Under legislation at the time of his sentencing, the heavily tattooed sex offender must be released after two-thirds of his sentence ? meaning he is to be freed by January 5, 2010 at the latest. But the Department of Corrections has taken the rare step of applying for an order under Section 107 of the Parole Act 2002, to keep him in jail. The section can only be enforced if the Parole Board has sufficient evidence an offender is likely to commit a "specific" offence between release and the end of their sentence.
A hearing will take place later this week ? two months since the Parole Board imposed eight conditions relating to his release. They included he undertake, and complete, a raft of counselling programmes and treatment. Campbell was also banned from making contact with his victims, having contact with anyone aged 16 years or younger unless with approved supervision and possessing or consuming alcohol. During his 2001 trial in the Auckland High Court, Campbell was described by Detective Sergeant Adam Lough, officer in charge of the case, as a "calculating, manipulative sexual deviant who preys on teenage boys from single-parent families". In 2000, Campbell held the 14-year-old boy captive in a wardrobe and performed a series of indecencies on him after telling him he had nominated him for the Hells Angels, and that the boy would have to disappear for several months in a bid to secure his gang patch. The boy was then plied with booze, before Campbell initially made him perform oral sex on him and then sodomised him. The abuse continued when he pierced the boy's scrotum, inserting two rings. A day later Campbell forced his victim to strip naked, and tattooed him with a brickwork design from his groin to his buttocks using a home-made tattoo gun. The boy was then restrained in the wardrobe of Campbell's house in the North Shore suburb of Beach Haven, using shackles and chains. He was repeatedly beaten, had hot wax poured over his body and was again sodomised. The next day he was tied to a bed with chains, rolled onto his stomach, and branded on his lower back, causing second-degree burns. The boy escaped after being able to phone his family when Campbell left the house. Campbell was also found guilty of sexually abusing a 13-year-old boy over a two-and-a-half month period in 1991. Shortly after he abused his first victim, Campbell moved to Australia and went on a fire-lighting spree which included the destruction of the central business centre of Beaudesert, west of the Gold Coast. In 1996 he was sentenced to nine years' jail for arson.
the killing fart
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3360100/Mans-fart-fury-led-to-killing.html
By STAFF REPORTER
Published: 19 Jan 2011
A PARTYGOER has been charged with knifing his friend to death and stabbing two others after being teased about his FARTS.
Marc Higgins told cops he was furious about being mocked and wanted to teach his friends a lesson, according to court documents.
The 21-year-old is said to have rowed with reveller Stacy Buccheri during the party, who then ribbed him about his flatulence.
Buccheri slapped Higgins who then smashed a beer bottle and stormed out of the apartment in Bristol, Connecticut, US, witnesses claimed.
He allegedly returned 45 minutes later armed with three knives and began stabbing people indiscriminately on a porch.
Higgins was said to have been "very drunk" as he reportedly stabbed 21-year-old Matthew Walton to death.
He is also accused of knifing Sandra Ranger, 18, David Klett, 19, and Tyler Basso, 18.
Higgins told investigators he didn't target his victims — 'they just happened to be the first people he came across'.
He has been remanded in custody on $2million bail.
Activists plan Scotland Yard blockade to expose spies who used sexual tactics
Women aim to identify undercover police who infiltrated environment groups and had sexual relations with protesters
*
* James Meikle
* guardian.co.uk, Monday 24 January 2011 06.01 GMT
* Article history
Metropolitan Poloce Commissioner Ian Blair resigns Activists are expected at Scotland Yard in London today to protest over surveillance methods on women and what they call 'state-endorsed sexual manipulation'. Photograph: Andy Rain/EPA
Women activists are to blockade Scotland Yard today, intending to demand to know the identity of any undercover police who have infiltrated their organisations.
As evidence continued to emerge of police officers having had sexual relations with people they were monitoring, the women said they wanted to know if they had been "abused" by police.
Though senior police insisted that sleeping with activists during such operations was banned, a former agent claimed such "promiscuity" routinely had the blessing of commanders.
The activists' concerns follow the revelation that the undercover PC Mark Kennedy had sexual relationships with several women during the seven years he spent infiltrating environmental activists' groups. Last week the Guardian identified more officers who had sex with the protesters they were sent to spy on. One officer, Jim Boyling, married an activist and had two children with her.
Rebecca Quinn, an environmental activist from Oxford, said: "This is about people from different groups and networks who share concerns about this type of policing and how it affects women. We are still at the stage where we are trying to piece together the extent to which these operations have reached.
"There may be dozens of other women who might be affected by this, who have [unknowingly] had relationships with other undercover officers. It is unacceptable. A picture is starting to emerge of state-endorsed sexual manipulation."
The issue is expected to be raised by MPs tomorrow, when the acting Metropolitan police commissioner, Tim Godwin, appears before the Commons home affairs select committee
Teenagers suffer the kicks of abusive relationships
the guardian
Teenagers are suffering abuse and humiliation by their partners, but we should be concerned that it's just shrugged off as normal, writes Lizz Pearson (theguardian.co.uk)
Girls are suffering violence and online humiliation by their teenage boyfriends. Photograph: Julia Honess/Tender
What qualities do teenage boys look for in a girlfriend? It was the question put to a group of boys by a youth project worker in a London secondary school. The list they gave her wasn't exactly cerebral, so she was encouraged when one boy piped up "fairness". She asked him to explain. "You know," he said. "She's like fair if she spends five minutes giving me head, then my friend head, and like ... we all get the same time."
This was the beginning of my research for the BBC Radio 4 documentary Teenage Kicks, and although the story was unpleasant, I wasn't surprised. The brief for my programme was to look at abuse in teenage relationships. I knew it happened, there had been research. Violence in teenage partner relationships had been the subject of a landmark NSPCC report, with girls describing being pushed, hit or slapped by boyfriends, controlled through constant texting and online messaging, or forced into sex. So I knew I would hear stories of harassment and abuse. What I wasn't prepared for was the seeming ambivalence that young people had to the violence around them.
I talked to teenagers in groups, individually, in pairs. Elly (not her real name) was 17. Her ex had turned up at her house, and "back-handed" her in front of his laughing mates. Just to show off. A group of 15- and 16-year-old schoolgirls told me they'd seen a peer hit in the face by a boy, right outside their school. He'd asked her out, and she'd said no. Bam. The girls' schoolmates gathered round, gossiping. "She broke her nail, he pulled her hair, she looks a wreck." Only a teacher had tried to help.
Then there was abuse online. I'd never heard the word "sket" - teen slang for a slut - before I met these teenagers. Or of online "sket-sites" – pages created on Facebook where a girl's sexual deeds are posted, and boys invited to add their comments. Sometimes a boy makes the site, sometimes another (perhaps jealous) girl. The idea is to humiliate. And it works. Intimate pictures, intimate details of a teenager's life, posted for all to see, the girl labelled a "sket" or "ho" – I found this deeply upsetting. Weren't they shocked too? They shrugged. It's normal. And I heard that response again and again. Wrong, yes, but normal too. It was said of boys who take photos of girls during sex, of teens learning "sex moves" from porn, of the young man who shares his "girlfriend" with his mates, so they're not "left out" – something adults might call gang rape. Wrong, but normal.
There are various theories about why this is happening and some are in the programme. TV, magazines, our whole culture invites us to prize our sexuality, and judge ourselves and others accordingly. Whether it's front page pictures of a celeb's wobbly bits, or articles that tell us we must "have it all" - big boobs, great boyfriend, toned, waxed, perfect bod. To me this had always been the outside pressure, the stuff I could ignore. Talking to these teens, I realised there's a very good chance that these "outside" values are becoming their norm. I found that far more shocking than any of their stories of violence or abuse.
• Lizz Pearson is the producer of Teenage Kicks, which is broadcast on Radio 4 today at 11a
Can't seem to find a thread with true crime books, so I'll post it here. Found this in an english shop in Berlin, has some interesting cases, from a prosecutors pov.
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is she somehow related to the "other" Vachss?
Quote from: tiny_tove on January 31, 2011, 12:08:31 PM
is she somehow related to the "other" Vachss?
which one would that be, her husband?
yep, I could not remember his name, Andrew Vachss I think.
correct. He seams to have been working in a simliar part of the justice system in New York. And also an author
I read some interviews some years ago, but I only got ahold of his books in the past weeks.
I've read all of Andrew vachss' books except for anything in the last few years*. Never come across anything recent in used bkstores. He did some comic books too; titles were "Hard Looks" & "Underground".
I always thought Sotos was reading WAY TOO MUCH into Vachss' books... really reaching about AV being a pervert. I have "Sex Crimes" or use to. DOnt' remember it being all that interesting.
*Looks like I haven't read his last 8-9 books
which are the best of his books I should start with?
Quote from: tiny_tove on February 01, 2011, 11:21:45 AM
which are the best of his books I should start with?
"Flood"
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on February 01, 2011, 04:08:02 AM
I have "Sex Crimes" or use to. DOnt' remember it being all that interesting.
overall, it isn't. But it has some good bits.
I was at an apartment builiding just now and I think somebody got stabbed there earlier. ive never seen so much blood in one place. three or four levels of the corridors were stained as shit. most of it had been mopped but the walls were still messy and it had dripped down the stairs. and it reeked!cool
Gomorrah Girl
http://www.repubblica.it/persone/2011/02/17/foto/foto_spada-12561134/1/
fucking brilliant aldo.
there is a whole area like this in my old per neighbourhood, totally alike.
Depla take a look at the "Napule shot"
http://www.maurodagati.com/
thanks Aldo, this made my day.
LOL!!!
Black lesbians murder man for being heterosexual
Category: Blacks, Crime, Diversity Is Our Greatest Strength, Don't Say The N Word!, Gays|Homosexuals, Hate Crimes
In St. Louis. No hate crimes charge, of course, even though the victim's sexual orientation was a major factor in the crime. Hate crime charges are for white people. On very rare occasions a non-white who assaults a homosexual or member of another non-white group is charged with a hate crime, but the concept of "hate crimes" was invented to target white people.
And I'm pretty sure this story won't get nearly as much attention as the murder of Matthew Shepard over a decade ago still gets, let alone the attention it got when it first happened. Homos murdering heterosexuals is no big deal. Especially when they're black homos.
And if you think I'm exaggerating, and this really doesn't qualify as a hate crime, then just imagine the media and police reaction if a straight white man beat a gay guy to death for making sexual advances to him. Or beat a lesbian to death for coming on to his girlfriend. You're dreaming if you think it wouldn't be nationwide non-stop news and that he wouldn't be charged with a hate crime. This case is no different, but the reaction is the complete opposite. Because hate crime charges are for white people.
ST. LOUIS — Two women accused of beating a man to death in Forest Park were charged today with first-degree murder, armed criminal action and filing a false police report.
Dawn E. Fulks, 25, and Mellonie D. Jones, 20, both of St. Louis, are being held at jail without bond, St. Louis police said.
Police described the women as lovers and said the two beat the man after he made unwelcome advances toward Fulks, but she refused, police said.
The two are accused of fatally beating Willard Bryant Payne, 26, of University City, who was found dead early Monday in the Kennedy Forest area of Forest Park. Police said Payne died of head trauma.
Either late Sunday or early Monday, Payne went with the women to smoke marijuana in the park, police said. When Payne made an advance at Fulks, police said Jones allegedly hit Payne.
He tried to run, but the women caught him and continued to beat him with an object not identified by investigators, police said.
Police said both women were larger than Payne. According to data from Payne's driver's license, he was 5-foot-5 and weighed 140 pounds.
The women told police that Payne tried to rape Fulks, but police do not believe that happened, resulting in the false police report charge.
Anyone know if there are any in depth books out there on the Sidney Cooke / Jason Swift case?
fuck... I am laughing my ass off.
Smiley Culture died from single stab wound to heart, postmortem finds
Family of rapper vows to uncover truth after star – real name David Emmanuel – dies 'making tea during police raid'
Smiley Culture performing at Reggae Sunsplash in London in 1985 Smiley Culture, who has died during a police raid at his home in Surrey, performing at Reggae Sunsplash in London in 1985. Photograph: David Corio/Redferns
David Emmanuel, the British rap star Smiley Culture, died from a single stab wound through his heart, according to a postmortem examination.
The 48-year-old singer died during a Metropolitan police raid at his house. His family have been told he stabbed himself while making a cup of tea.
Emmanuel's family say the postmortem has strengthened their resolve to uncover the truth behind the "most bizarre of circumstances". They say they will employ an independent pathologist to verify the cause of death.
"As a family, we are in a state of deep sorrow and anger," said David Emmanuel, the musician's nephew, at a packed public meeting in Brixton, south London. "My uncle was a father, an uncle, a friend and a mentor to many and is a British icon who died under the most peculiar of circumstances.
"This is not a race issue, although there are suspicions that ethnicity has some relevance in this tragic event. This is a time when the whole British public will stand up to let the police and government know that we will no longer allow any citizen to die in the most bizarre of circumstances. Instead, we will seek the truth, doggedly, until that truth has been exposed."
Emmanuel was stabbed shortly before 8.30am on Tuesday, an hour and a half after four Metropolitan police officers arrived at his house in Warlingham, Surrey, with a search warrant.
A relative, who asked to remain unnamed, said she saw Emmanuel shortly after 8am. He seemed calm, she said, but appeared to indicate that he was confused by the raid. She saw him "surrounded by officers" and when she waved to him, he "shrugged his shoulders, as though to tell me he didn't know what was going on".
It was after this that Emmanuel was allowed to go unaccompanied into his kitchen, his family say. "Why, if Smiley was arrested, was he allowed to go near a kettle full of boiling water and drawers full of knives?" asked Lee Jasper, chair of the London race and criminal justice consortium. "It just doesn't make sense."
At about 8.30am an air ambulance was called by police officers. The helicopter arrived but Emmanuel died at the scene.
The case has been referred to the Independent Police Complaints Commission, which is setting up a community reference group to tell local people and the family of the investigation's progress and channel questions or concerns.
"This investigation is examining the basis on which Metropolitan police service officers went to Surrey to carry out the search warrant on Tuesday, how that was planned, how it was communicated with Surrey police and what happened while officers were at the address," said IPCC commissioner Mike Franklin.
"It is also looking at the response of the officers present to examine what was done in terms of first aid. The independent investigation will be studying forensic evidence and all other possible lines of enquiry to try to establish a factual account of exactly what happened," he added.
"Many of the questions that I know Mr Emmanuel's family and friends have are exactly what we will be examining as part of this investigation. I want to reassure people that we will thoroughly scrutinise this incident and will update all those involved as we progress. I will also make the findings of our investigation public at the earliest opportunity. Until then, I would ask that speculation is avoided."
In September last year Emmanuel appeared before magistrates charged with conspiracy to supply cocaine. He was due in court in the coming days.
Another relative, Merlin Emmanuel, said he refused to believe the singer had taken his own life.
"Smiley had a great deal to look forward to," he said. "It is true that he had an impending case but it is also true that the evidence in relation to this case was minimal and he, along with his legal team, were supremely confident of being acquitted this coming week.
"The police have yet to give an official statement as to what happened," he added. "We haven't had a clear, coherent, official explanation as to what happened to Smiley. The police have a lot to answer to. Until our questions, queries and suspicions have been fully and competently answered to dispel any notion of foul play, we will not rest."
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/03/global-raids-shut-boylovernet-arrest-184-men-rescue-230-kids.ars
I saw this story ran at the bottom of a news channel but never saw anything else about it..
I would think a lot of media is not very keen to report of gay related offenses, when attempt is to normalize and promote sexual diversity? Over here, I think there was something mentioned that sex has gotten dirtier in gay bar toilets and glory holes than in germany, and result of unprotected sex, level of diseases and HIV has grown intensively. They will underline HIV counts related to junkies, how diseases spread and drug related death escalated +30% in short time. Girl molestations are often reported with big headlines, but even if % of boy molestation is close by, you hardly hear of it. Not long ago up north was going search for 3 guys who abused 10 year old buy.. on street?
Few days ago, site "global finland" published news article - in finnish, about boys abused on cambodia. That local people don't really know, and if they know, they don't care. While abuse of girls is taken, ehm, seriously if you can say so, boys getting abused receives attitude that "men should be strong, he'll get over it soon" or even mockery of such a sissy getting abused. I must stress the finns to grab this "häväistyt ruumiit, rikotut mielet", filled with testimonies of the interviewed victims.
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on March 22, 2011, 09:25:36 AM
I must stress the finns to grab this "häväistyt ruumiit, rikotut mielet", filled with testimonies of the interviewed victims.
Seems to be sold out everywhere?
Oh never mind, forgot about good ol' libraries.
Italy never had problems to talk about gay related crimes.
Recently they are more focused on anti-gay violence, but whenever there somebody buttfucking underage kids there is plenty of coverage.
Even the church no longer cover ups their priests when they sexually harrass kids.
In my town there has been a quite peculiar case with this priest fucking several tims a retarded kid. The local bishop attempted to cover the whole story, but it backfired.
The bishop was known for talking against gay people and immigrants, but people working in Milan gay library Babele were openly saying that in the 70's he was a slutbag.
Remember we are in Italy, so called omophobia is big, so it is a subjects that excites the moral majority.
In finland, good court case of leading conservative Laestadian priest.. or was it jehovas withness? Anyways, incest and molestation of little boys of pariah, with approval of the parents. At least on level of rather protecting the church than exposing the predator.
I had to look up omophobia...
True crime stuff is not a huge fixation of mine. That being stated, both the Gomorrah Girl and Napule Shot albums suggested a page back seem really impressive. Wish I had more money for photo books... For those interested in the Camorra syndicate, Roberto Saviano's book Gomorrah is the most obvious pick on the topic--film based on it worth checking out too--but I'd also recommend Nanni Balestrini's novella Sandokan:
http://mhpbooks.com/book.php?id=238
It's a shame that only a handful of Balestrini's works are available in English. His writing on the '70s autonomous Left in Italy, and its descent during the "years of lead," is also worth reading.
On a totally unrelated note, I just saw this gallery related to the '81 shooting of Reagan on CNN. Most of the images are fairly common, but I figure a few of you may want to take a look... 30 year anniversary of this event on the 30th, so there will be plenty of material for those interested in this topic in the days ahead...
http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/03/18/reagan.shooting.gallery/index.html
we were talking about gay rape
today this hit the news
Raped policeman: 'I never thought I would be a victim'
A detective investigating sexual assaults was devastated when he himself was raped. But he grew even more angry when police colleagues insisted on investigating the crime. Here he tells his tale anonymously
o Interview by Amelia Hill
o guardian.co.uk, Monday 4 April 2011 20.30 BST
o Article history
'I made a series of choices that led to me waking up in a man's bed trapped underneath him. Being raped.' Photograph: Christian Sinibaldi for the Guardian
I've been a police officer for two decades and a detective, specialising in serious crime and sexual offences, for 15 years. Never once in all the time I've investigated these horrific crimes has it occurred to me that one day I would be a victim; that I would be raped – and that I would refuse to help the police investigate.
But a couple of weeks ago, I made a series of choices that led to me, a heterosexual man, waking up in a man's bed, trapped underneath him. Being raped. I'm still struggling to come to terms with how, despite my decades of professional experience, I made the choices that led to me being raped. At no point the evening before had I felt at risk. At no point did I think I was making a bad decision.
I also never anticipated using the service the police provide to rape victims. I've always been the one asking the questions. To be on the other side of the table has been a shock – if I investigated a sexual crime now, there are things I would do differently.
It's hard to accept that a couple of weeks ago everything was normal. Now everything's wrong. I had gone out with friends for a Saturday brunch. We were a small group of settled, sorted, middle-aged men, some single, some in relationships, but none of us looking to do anything other than spend some quiet leisure time together. We had a couple of beers, shared a bottle of wine over the meal, then sat around in the pub chatting and reading the papers.
As the afternoon turned into evening, people began peeling off from the group. By 9.30pm, the last of my friends headed home. On a whim, I decided to stay. I'd never been in that pub before but I felt comfortable alone there.
After a while, I got chatting to a group around the bar. I got the impression that they knew each other and they were a friendly lot. We talked about football, music, the state of the country. It was good, happy banter. It was the chat that goes on every night, in hundreds of pubs across the country when new people start getting to know each other.
As the night wore on, the accumulation of a day's steady drinking began to back up. I was never particularly drunk, I don't think, but my memory becomes increasingly misty when I try to think back.
I can't remember when I first noticed the guy who ended up assaulting me, but he stood out from the rest of the group – he was more extrovert, a bit larger than life. But he didn't do or say anything that made me feel uncomfortable – or that gave the slightest suggestion of what he would be capable of doing a few hours later.
I was still in the pub at about midnight, then the next thing I remember is being in a house with the same group of about six people. I have no recollection of leaving the pub, travelling or arriving. I've racked my brain but I don't know if we walked there, or got a bus or a cab. I do have some memories from the rest of the evening, though. I remember standing in the kitchen, talking about Christina Rossetti's poem The Convent Threshold. It developed into a conversation about poetry and what we would want read at our funerals.
Then my memory tails off again. I don't think my drink was spiked. I'll never know if I was drugged or not but I didn't have any of the after-effects you would expect. I didn't feel disorientated or woozy.
My next memory is at about six or seven the following morning. I woke up in a bed and that guy was raping me. My first thought was: "What the fuck do you think you're doing?" The second thought was fear, channelled into self-preservation: I jumped out of bed and grabbed my clothes from the floor. It didn't occur to me to arrest him. It did not even cross my mind that I was a detective. My only thought was my personal safety. He didn't try to stop me. We didn't say a word to each other.
I ran out into the street. I roughly knew the area, so I jumped on a bus heading home and started the longest journey of my life. Sitting alone on that bus was awful. My phone had died during the evening so I couldn't call anyone. I felt alone and dirty. I was very angry, disgusted, a bit scared. I needed help. I told myself what I know victims say all the time: that it was my fault for putting myself in that position. I've spent decades telling victims not to blame themselves, but now I truly understand what it means to torture yourself with "Why did I? / How could I?" thoughts. By the time I got though my front door, I had decided I didn't want to report what had happened to the police. I knew they would do a wonderful job investigating but I was thinking ahead to the trial, with me in court as the victim. I knew that anonymity at work would be impossible. Of course everyone would be sympathetic but they'd treat me differently. How could I sit there with colleagues, trying to be objective about someone else's rape if they were saying "Are you OK?" the whole time?
I knew I had to make sure I was healthy. I couldn't go to a police-run sexual assault referral centre because there was a chance I would know the staff there – the attack had happened in my town. Instead, I found the public specialist clinic. It was very good: great advice, great counselling, great follow-up service.
I called in sick to work for a few days after the attack, but I soon went back because I desperately needed some normality. I'm not gung-ho: I thought about what it would be like, listening to the stories of other victims and arresting perpetrators. How could I guarantee that I wouldn't suddenly break down? What if the man who raped me attacked someone else? How could I arrange for someone else to take over the investigation without it turning into a big deal?
My boss was also a friend, so I decided to tell him what had happened. I was clear that I didn't want to make an official report. But he called in two other officers, opened a case file and started an investigation. I was horrified. I said I wouldn't help but they kept saying they had a duty to protect one of their own.
I believe they thought they were doing the right thing, but if I'd been any other victim, my wishes would have come foremost. They perhaps felt they could put extra pressure on me because, as a copper, I didn't need the careful handling we give other victims.
I was furious but dumbfounded. The strain on me was – and still is – intense. The sexual abuse team ask me to meetings where they say the same thing, again and again: "We appreciate you don't want to substantiate this allegation but what else can you give us?" Then they say they'll come back to me in a couple of weeks to see if I've changed my mind. This relentless stress means I can't start coming to terms with what's happened to me. I want to sign a closure statement that puts all this behind me. I keep telling them that I'm not refusing to co-operate to be difficult. I tell them repeatedly that I don't want to talk about it because it was horrible and I want it to go away. I want to not think about it any more.
The worst thing was when they rang me late at night and told me they'd arrested a suspect. I have no idea who he was, and no idea what information the arrest was based on. I don't know whether they found someone based on what I told them when they were chipping away at me or whether they'd found CCTV film.
The coercion became worse. They asked if I wanted to know his name. That made me feel as sick as on the morning it happened. They obviously hoped that personalising my attacker – giving him a name and a face – would make me change my mind. Then, of course, they had to ring me back later that same evening and tell me they were going bail the guy. They had no evidence sufficient to hold him. I guess they had two goals in seeking his arrest: either I'd crack and agree to go to court, or they could take his DNA and check it on the database to see if he matched any past complaints.
My experience has led me to seriously contemplate whether I or other officers investigating similar serious sexual assaults put undue pressure on victims. Do we push victims to go through the court process? Do we do it for the right reason – because we want to fight crime – but, in doing so, not listen to what the victims are telling us? The pressure my colleagues put on me was conscious – but I think there's a risk that we do it subconsciously in other cases. That worries me deeply.
Another question I've had to ask myself is why, as a police officer, I am not doing everything I can to get my attacker off the streets. But I'm a victim first and a police officer second. I'm not the first victim to decide not to press charges, and I won't be the last. Being a cop means I know the system, and it has scared me off. I know this case would be likely to end in court and, from that point, I couldn't maintain my anonymity. I couldn't cope with the added burden of being a cop as well as a victim.
Do I have more sympathy and empathy with victims after what's happened to me? Without a doubt. Has it made me more cautious? Absolutely. But we're always wise after the event. That's not much good to me now.
'Double Initial' killer may have struck elsewhere
by STAFF REPORTER
Published: Today - the sun
A 77-YEAR-OLD man has been charged with killing four women he allegedly targeted because their first and last initials were the same.
Police fear Joseph Naso, from Nevada, may be responsible for more deaths while travelling across the US working as a professional photographer.
They believe he killed Roxene Roggasch in 1977, Carmen Colon in 1978, Pamela Parsons in 1993 and Tracey Tofoya in 1994.
The murders took place in three different northern California counties.
The women have little in common but their quirky names.
Investigators found evidence at Naso's home in Reno last year that tied him to the slayings.
"When you are talking about a person who has killed more than once, this doesn't stop," said Chris Perry of the Nevada Department of Public Safety.
"We think there are others out there we haven't discovered yet."
And detectives in New York are looking into whether he could be responsible for what they call the "Double Initial Murders" of three young girls who were abducted, raped and strangled in Rochester in the 1970s.
One of the victims in the New York case was also named Carmen Colon.
"We expected the calls the moment the arrest became public," said Allan Dombroski, a senior investigator with the New York State Police.
But the New York victims were children, while the California victims were women, leading some to question a possible link.
Naso is being held without bail at Marin County Jail in San Rafael in California
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3531910/School-assistant-head-jailed-after-he-and-his-teacher-brother-hoarded-11000-child-porn.html
Less talked about here in Europe than in the US I would think. That doesn't make it any less funny.
The woman who falsely accused three Duke University lacrosse players of raping her in 2006 has been charged with murder over the death of her boyfriend.
Crystal Mangum, 32, was indicted on Monday on a charge of first-degree murder and two counts of theft. She has been in jail since 3 April, when police charged her with assault in the stabbing of 46-year-old Reginald Daye. He died in hospital nearly two weeks later.
Mangum had accused the lacrosse players of raping her at a party, for which she was hired to perform as a stripper. The case heightened long-standing tensions in the university in Durham, North Carolina, about race, class and the privileged status of college athletes. Prosecutors declined to press charges over her claims.
Last year she was convicted of starting a fire that nearly destroyed her home with her three children inside. She told officers she was arguing with her boyfriend at the time - not Daye - and burned his clothes, smashed his car windshield and threatened to stab him.
Friends said Mangum has never recovered from the stigma of the lacrosse case and has been involved in a string of questionable relationships in an attempt to provide stability for her three children.
Vincent Clark, a friend who co-authored Mangum's self-published memoir, said he hoped people would not rush to judge her. He said Mangum realises she has mental health problems: "I'm sad for her. I hope people realise how difficult it is being her," he added.
A federal judge recently ruled that the three players accused of attacking Mangum - Reade Seligmann, Collin Finnerty and Dave Evans - could pursue a lawsuit against the detectives and the district attorney at the time, Mike Nifong, over their handling of the case. The players have not sued Mangum.
A lawyer for Mangum did not return a call seeking comment. The district attorney's office declined to discuss the case.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/apr/19/duke-lacrosse-crystal-mangum-charged-murder
http://www.oregonlive.com/rajneesh/index.ssf/2011/04/part_one_it_was_worse_than_we.html (http://www.oregonlive.com/rajneesh/index.ssf/2011/04/part_one_it_was_worse_than_we.html)
More Rajneesh: http://www.oregonlive.com/rajneesh/ (http://www.oregonlive.com/rajneesh/)
"In a nearly unbelievable chapter of Oregon history, a guru from India gathered 2,000 followers to live on a remote eastern Oregon ranch. The dream collapsed 25 years ago amid attempted murders, criminal charges and deportations.
"But the whole story was never made public. With first-ever access to government files, and some participants willing to talk for the first time, it's clear things were far worse than we realized.
"What follows is an inside look -- based on witness statements, grand jury transcripts, police reports, court records and fresh interviews -- at how Rajneesh leaders tried to skirt land-use and immigration laws only to have their schemes collapse to the point they decided killing Oregonians was the only way to save their religious utopia."
an old ex of mine is a keen follower.
I have been in a commune for an article many years ago. many feminists that failed with politics turned to "orange", no more no less than in Uk with Wiccan.
It would be interesting to gather figures about sexually transmitted desease rates in those environments, since compulsive sex is part of the trade.
It was a strong influence in Italy's 70's, accepted as a guru even by many people in the left, and I am still asking myself what this crook had to do with Marxism.
Regarding sexually transmitted diseases: apparently with the dawn of AIDS as a public concern, condoms and latex gloves were provided on the Rajneeshee property, and Rajneesh pretty much commanded his followers to always use them... or leave.
Regarding your other point, perhaps the popularity was not because of Marxism so much as to do with its failures..? But obviously the Rajneesh Movement was not the only new religious movement/cult that had a strong link to the Left... think of the Peoples Temple, whose members were frequently seen at Bay Area Left-wing protests before leaving for Guyana...
well.
he may have suggested that but I know 100% for sure what I saw in the places I have been and from the tales of other "insiders". when somebody wanted a cheap fuck went either to these ashrams or to children of god local section.
yes totally agree. In Italy many of the them moved to post Hindu (even hare krishna), Buddism or turned to radical Christianity, while on the right some turned Muslims. whenever there are gaps to fill you have many choices, be it politics or religion.
That's the cult who sucked in Swedish child prodigy and popstar Ted Gärdestad. He came out of it a wreck and eventually jumped in front of a train.
Great sleeve from his younger, happier and less troubled days. Little did he know back then...
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Not really true crime, more social commentary, still makes me laugh:
* News
* Society
* Children
British girls 'biggest teenage binge drinkers in western world'
Half of 15-year-old girls have been drunk at least twice, nearly double the average proportion in other developed countries
* Press Association
* guardian.co.uk, Friday 22 April 2011 10.39 BST
* Article history
Teenage binge drinking
The proportion of British girls who consume more than six drinks per session has risen 10% in a decade, a report shows. Photograph: Anita Maric/News Team International
British girls are the biggest teenage binge drinkers in the western world, according to a report.
Half of 15-year-olds have been drunk at least twice – almost double the 29% average of other developed countries, while 44% of 15-year-old British boys admitted to being intoxicated on two or more occasions.
Girls also drink more alcohol in the UK than their male counterparts, with 44% of 15-year-old boys being intoxicated on two or more occasions.
The Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) figures were published in a Through the Looking Glass, a report commissioned by the thinktank Demos. They found that between 1998 and 2008 the proportion of girls who binge-drank – defined as consuming more than six drinks per session – increased from 17% to 27%.
As part of the report, which offers recommendations for a policy to empower young women, Demos conducted a poll of 500 British females aged 16 to 19. It found 84% were anxious about being able to secure the job they wanted in the future, with 81% also worried about doing well in exams.
Money fears also featured highly, with more than three-quarters (76%) saying they were worried about not having enough money, compared with 38% who were anxious about finding a partner and 57% who were worried about getting into university.
Having more cash to spend was ranked as the top answer (27%), when girls were asked what would make them happiest, while in second place was a good or better relationship with their boyfriend, girlfriend or partner (26%).
The poll also found teenage girls thought success in education (92%), having good friends (72%) and being kind (70%) would enable them to excel in life.
Among respondents 16% were not very happy, while 64% were quite happy most of the time and 17% felt very happy.
Teenage girls from lower socioeconomic groups were less happy than their wealthier counterparts, with 13% reporting being very happy most of the time, against 19%, and 21% reporting to being not very happy most of the time against 15%. More than half (55%) said their mobile phone was the most important item in their bag, while 62% said their main use of the internet was for social networking.
Perhaps among the best TRUE CRIME books I've read for long time is HATELAND.
HATELAND book is good book to read anyone who complains about "nazis". When you see that one should rather complain about multi-problem psychopaths, which hang around everywhere where bad things happen..
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"Published in May 2005, it tells of O'Mahoney's correspondence with nailbomber David Copeland which helped secure his convictions for the 1999 nail bomb attacks which led to the deaths of three people and left hundreds of others injured. It also tells of O'Mahoney's violent childhood and youth, including the abuse he suffered at the hands of his alcoholic father and Bernard's involvement with football hooliganism and the Nazi/far-right movement and subsequently his change of views and how he helped infiltrate the British Ku Klux Klan with a News of the World reporter. O'Mahoney also recalls the backlash against his own family and many other people of Irish descent across England in the aftermath of the IRA pub bombings of Birmingham in 1974."
It's pretty cheap paperback. One should be able to get it just about anywhere and very entertaining. Ultra violence, extreme characters which get very very little sympathy from reader. Just overall fuck up's who can't really handle their lives, but REALLY brutal life experiences all over.
If you have seen the Rise Of The Footsoldier, there is some cross over here with the Essex hooligans & criminals. I think more extensive scrapbook & photo section would have been good. You see when he is in cover of C18 magazine, threatened. You see the all the thugs in this book in photos, who don't appear to be the "cool thugs". You won't see some neat casual clothing or fancy tattoos. You see the genuine aggressors, you'd better stay away from.
with his previous effort "Essex boys" a classic in true crime /thugh mentality. He seems to have been anywere there was need to be violent and politically incorrect. Absolutely amazing the part in South Africa when he seems to loose his mind.
I want to check the other books as well.
I also enjoyed "Essex Boys" the movie, featuring Sean Bean, although the story is pretty different, but still describes pretty well how club securities works in UK.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1_LwzcC-2o&feature=feedrec_grec_index
About a lunatic skinhead who thinks ALL UGLY PEOPLE SHOULD DIE.
There's an old paperback called "The Hate Factory" about a New Mexico prison riot that is violent as hell. I'd like to find another copy.
"hateLand" sounds like it's worth tracking down.
There's a reprint of "hate factory": http://www.amazon.com/Hate-Factory-First-Hand-Account-Penitentiary/dp/0595366694
As said, Hateland is easy to get. Not some "cult literature", but I actually bought it cheaply back in 2008 from London airport. Was too tired to read it after all, and then it got buried in shelves until now. I think it's like 10,- for 350 pages, in slightly bigger sized paperback.
It's 7 pages so please forgive me if this is been overly recommended.
Ian Brady's GATES OF JANUS has been my book companion today.
Feral House can be hit and miss. This one is a homerun.
Russian person sent me this information:
QuoteIt might be interesting for you as a noise(core) artist to hear some news from
Russia regarding this genre. A couple of weeks ago or so, two male teens were
arrested in Siberian city of Irkutsk and were charged with a series of murders
(4-6, according to various sources) in their local area, which were previously
blamed on some unknown "serial killer". There was a huge "manhunt" after them by
the police and local volunteers, but the couple passed through it unsuspected -
they were busted only after uncle of one of them found an undeleted murder video
on a video camera he lent them. To cut a long story short, both guys were
previously known in the Russian noisecore scene with their band Raschlenennaya
Pugachova. One of them has also left some traces on internet as a follower of
extreme nazi subculture bordering on total nihilism. R.P. sported Anal Cunt -
style lyrics revolving about nihilism and violence. The most exciting thing is,
there already has been another nihilist gang from Irkutsk - the so-called Magiya
Krovi (Blood Magic), whose leader Shumkov openly stated that he led teens to
murder for the kicks "without subjecting to any morals". Shumkov was jailed in
2009 for 25 years, and just in that year, R.P. released an album titled "Magiya
Krovi" and featuring an intro in which they're giving a spoken promise to
"continue the job of Magiya Krovi". Then, nobody took that serious... It's also
wonderful that the band's scene friends didn't chicken out after those news and
right now are working on a noisecore tribute to R.P.
When trying to google information of band, you get lots of russian sites, and very little of english results, but one says "Chuck schuldiner is gay!"... haha... true AC worship it seems!
I wish there were mor infos regarding the whole same-sex rape thing in africa:
Uganda anti-gay bill likely to drop death penalty
MP behind globally-condemned legislation said he will 'concede' if committee recommends that death sentence be removed
Associated Press in Kampala
guardian.co.uk, Tuesday 26 April 2011 21.19 BST
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David Bahati Ugandan MP
Ugandan MP David Bahati's anti-gay legislation was condemned by President Obama when it was first proposed. Photograph: Ronald Kabuubi/AP
The MP behind anti-gay legislation that has been condemned worldwide said yesterday the death penalty is likely to be dropped from the bill.
David Bahati said if the committee studying the bill recommends the death penalty be removed, "I would concede."
Proposed 18 months ago, the bill attracted international condemnation, including from President Barack Obama.
Under the legislation, anyone convicted of a homosexual act would face life imprisonment.
The original bill would have mandated a death sentence for active homosexuals living with HIV or in cases of same-sex rape.
Stephen Tashobya, the chairman of the legal and parliamentary affairs committee, said the legislation may come up for a vote before parliament's session ends 12 May.
"We shall try and see how far we can go with the bill. It may be possible. We are doing all we can. We have limited time," he said on Tuesday, before adding: "Many people have expressed concern about that provision providing for the death sentence and I'm sure when we start hearings on that bill we will hear many more concerns."
Bahati said he thinks the bill would become law if voted on by legislators.
"I can guarantee you I have not seen any member of parliament who is opposed to it," he said.
Frank Mugisha, the director of Sexual Minorities Uganda, a gay rights group, said anti-gay sentiment in Uganda had increased since the bill's introduction. More gays are being harassed, he said, because of media attention and because church leaders have been preaching for the bill's passage to congregations.
Bahati's original bill carried harsh provisions. The original bill would mandate a death sentence for active homosexuals living with HIV or in cases of same-sex rape. "Serial offenders" also could face capital punishment, but the legislation did not define the term. Anyone convicted of a homosexual act would face life imprisonment.
Anyone who "aids, abets, counsels or procures another to engage of acts of homosexuality" would face seven years in prison. Landlords who rent rooms or homes to homosexuals also could get seven years.
"If the bill passes we cannot even be allowed to do our work," Mugisha said.
Last year a tabloid newspaper published the names and photos of men it alleged were gay. One cover included the words: "Hang them."
Shortly afterward, in January, a prominent gay rights activist whose picture was published was killed, though authorities contend David Kato's sexual orientation had nothing to do with the killing.
Bahati called Kato's death regrettable.
"My reaction is that I extend condolences to the family, parents of Kato. It's regrettable that they could find themselves in this situation, and also regrettable that he could be allowed to be used to recruit our children.
"But the death of Kato had nothing to do with the bill in parliament," he said.
Bahati, 36, is serving his first term. He said that the bill has helped raise public awareness about what he calls "the dangers to our children". Many Ugandan leaders who support the bill say that gay Ugandans recruit school children to become homosexual.
A case has hit the Danish court with a very happy family: the parents are accused of continuously raping and abusing their nine (!) children, who are according to newspapers probably too messed up to ever lead a normal life. The oldest daughter, now 21, was seen by neighbors shoving snow barefoot and cleaning up horse dung with her bare hands; they contacted social services but since she was past 18, she was adult & should take care of herself. They didn't see her getting raped by the horse, her father, and her brother(s) - the latter forced by the parents. They also forced her siblings to urinate on her, and on one occasion she had to dig her own grave. The kids lived in some kind of outhouse it seems, without water light or warming, in animal and human excrements. One of the kids had hot soup poured down his or her throat. Seems like it's the patriarch's sadism mostly, the mother also being threated to her & her family's life - that's what she claims anyhow.
Have only read about it in Swedish newspapers.
Not sure of its international release, but May 19 "Snowtown" has its theatrical release. Based on the Snowtown murders that occurred from 1992-1999. 12 bodies recovered, 2 found buried in a backyard, whilst the others mostly found in plastic barrells found in an abandoned bank vault. These murders happenned in my hometown and the house where the buried bodies found only a few kms from my house. At this stage imdb has no international release but trailer is up there.
Just learned of this film tonight, and I'll be watching for Netflix to add it to their stock (it will probably never play in my area theatrically). The official website:
http://www.snowtownthemovie.com/
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/woman/3598804/Rapists-jail-terms-cut-if-they-admit-guilt.html
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on April 19, 2011, 10:31:48 PM
Couple summers ago there was a rapist in Texas who was sexually attacking men. I think it was a black guy who was arrested. Fairly curious as it's a crime you rarely hear about. I wonder if rape is common with men who are straight being picked up for violent sex? They'd be embarrassed so wouldn't report the crime... I rmember there was a guy in NYC picking up guys from leatherbars & wrapping their heads in duct tape then beating them; someone in the area told me it was well-known who the predator was & he was rich. I had a flyer or photo of the flyer that was warning people about him plus the letter from the guy giving me all the details. Seems like it was used for something but I have no idea what or where........
More details? If you ever find that flier scan it!
another looser on the block
Nursery worker admits raping child
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Paul Wilson, 20, pleads guilty to two counts of rape and 45 charges linked to online grooming of other girls
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Paul Wilson, 20, pleaded guilty to two counts of oral rape, and 45 charges of making and distributing indecent images. Photograph: West Midlands Police/PA
A nursery worker has pleaded guilty to raping a child in his care and to a string of offences linked to the online grooming of more than 20 other young girls.
At Birmingham crown court, Paul Wilson admitted two counts of raping a girl aged two or three years old and a further 45 charges of making and distributing indecent images and inciting youngsters to engage in sexual activity on the internet. He was warned that he should expect an indeterminate jail term when he is sentenced next month.
Wilson, 20, of Nechells, Birmingham, was charged with rape in January after his arrest on suspicion of child abuse prompted an investigation into his employment at Little Stars Nursery, which was temporarily closed after the arrest but later reopened.
The investigation by West Midlands police revealed Wilson's online grooming of young girls whom he threatened if they did not comply with his wishes.
One of Wilson's internet victims said she was left feeling shocked, violated and ashamed. The girl, who cannot be named for legal reasons, said she now felt "pure hatred" for Wilson, with whom she communicated via MSN instant messaging and on the youth community site Netlog.
The teenager initially engaged in normal conversations but was eventually pressured into exposing herself to Wilson via a webcam, and was then told that the images would be distributed if she refused to follow his orders.
The girl, now 17, believes she broke off her contact with the offender up to a year before his crimes were uncovered by police, and said she had not realised he had any hidden agenda.
Asked to describe her emotions when she discovered what the nursery worker had done to other victims, she replied: "I felt violated - it just betrayed all my trust. I felt quite stupid and ashamed that I had succumbed to what he had asked me to do. To know that it was the same person who I was talking to and felt that I trusted and had a relationship with - it just made me feel I had been violated."
She said Wilson had threatened to send images of her to her friends. "It was the choice of carrying on doing this - which I just did not want to do - or going through a few months of total humiliation from these images."
Eventually, the teenager got to a point where she "just didn't care" whether he distributed the images, and she deleted him from her MSN account.
"It has really affected me in the way that I go on the internet now," she added. "I am really careful - I will stick to Facebook and only speak to people who I genuinely know in the real world."
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3623145/Nursery-monster-raped-girl-aged-2.html
Has any one heard the story of 3 guys one hammer?I remember reading about some sick russian kids who went nuts and started filming themselves beating and hacking people to death just for kicks,I did a search on it but cant find anything relating to the full story.
Quote from: DEFILER on June 09, 2011, 12:23:59 PM
Has any one heard the story of 3 guys one hammer?I remember reading about some sick russian kids who went nuts and started filming themselves beating and hacking people to death just for kicks,I did a search on it but cant find anything relating to the full story.
This is everywhere. The video is on Uncoverreality forums (you do have to register but if you like death videos this is a good place to be registered at anyway), along with the whole story and photos of the court sessions, other videos they recorded, etc:
Main thread:
http://forum.uncoverreality.com/graphic-vids/52789-murderers-brutally-kill-man-camera-sickest-thing-you-will-ever-see-3guys1hammer.html
Personally it is not the "sickest video" I have ever seen, it's actually not really that bad at all, it is just some bloody lump getting hit for a few minutes with a hammer and wheezing while unconscious. If you register there make sure to watch this video. Japs went to far with breath control or were purposely trying to make a snuff film...
http://forum.uncoverreality.com/graphic-vids/676957-smothering-girl.html
Quote from: DEFILER on June 09, 2011, 12:23:59 PM
Has any one heard the story of 3 guys one hammer?I remember reading about some sick russian kids who went nuts and started filming themselves beating and hacking people to death just for kicks,I did a search on it but cant find anything relating to the full story.
you can also find their infamous video online
http://www.tokobakso.com/video/3-guys-1-hammer-revisited-video-18sg.html
Quote from: RyanWreck on June 09, 2011, 08:39:14 PM
Quote from: DEFILER on June 09, 2011, 12:23:59 PM
Has any one heard the story of 3 guys one hammer?I remember reading about some sick russian kids who went nuts and started filming themselves beating and hacking people to death just for kicks,I did a search on it but cant find anything relating to the full story.
This is everywhere. The video is on Uncoverreality forums (you do have to register but if you like death videos this is a good place to be registered at anyway), along with the whole story and photos of the court sessions, other videos they recorded, etc:
Main thread:
http://forum.uncoverreality.com/graphic-vids/52789-murderers-brutally-kill-man-camera-sickest-thing-you-will-ever-see-3guys1hammer.html
Personally it is not the "sickest video" I have ever seen, it's actually not really that bad at all, it is just some bloody lump getting hit for a few minutes with a hammer and wheezing while unconscious. If you register there make sure to watch this video. Japs went to far with breath control or were purposely trying to make a snuff film...
http://forum.uncoverreality.com/graphic-vids/676957-smothering-girl.html
Thanks,just registered a few minuites ago,I was surprised they had the guy that killed himself on webcam,also the Bjork stalker vid is great!!!!..Couldnt watch the Japanese smut vid gone bad but will check back later this evening,thanks again for the info however,good shit!!!!
Quote from: Unheard on June 09, 2011, 08:39:32 PM
Quote from: DEFILER on June 09, 2011, 12:23:59 PM
Has any one heard the story of 3 guys one hammer?I remember reading about some sick russian kids who went nuts and started filming themselves beating and hacking people to death just for kicks,I did a search on it but cant find anything relating to the full story.
you can also find their infamous video online
http://www.tokobakso.com/video/3-guys-1-hammer-revisited-video-18sg.html
Damn I know they had an actual video of it,I always thought the link following the story was fake as I used to get directed to broken links and didnt think much for doing a full search on it at the time...Its not as bad as I thought it would be,I read they tortured a pregant woman aswell and taped it,any chance that ones been leaked?Just curious to see what the hell makes people that look like they come from decent families go nuts,most killers were raised in nice quiet neighborhoods and made some huge accomplishments for themselves as well as there communities,never know I guess who may actually go off the deep end....
not big on this sort of stuff, and I haven't read the whole thread so I apologize if this has already been posted.
http://www.theweeklyvice.com/2011/05/shannon-and-brian-gore-were-creating.html
http://www.myspace.com/insomniac2788
http://www.myspace.com/shanic0le21
there are links their myspace pages where you can view a video of the wedding proposal, pics of her smiling with a toddler, and other innocuous looking shots.
made me head spin.
Murder victims' families treated awfully in court warns Louise Casey
Victims' Commissioner said families often talked about the legal process being as traumatic as the crime itself
Alan Travis, home affairs editor
guardian.co.uk, Tuesday 5 July 2011 23.20 BST
Article history
The families of murder victims receive worse treatment from the courts than the rich and wealthy who want to protect their privacy and they need a statutory 'victims' law' to protect their rights.
The call from the government-appointed Victims' Commissioner, Louise Casey, comes six months after she conducted the largest survey of bereaved families.
Casey said the criminal justice system left "families trembling in its wake" with many of the stories she heard just "jaw droppingly awful" and the survey demonstrated that families that had had no involvement with the police and courts actually coped better with their bereavement.
She said that families often talked about the legal process being almost as traumatic as the crime itself: "We ask people not to go out and take the law into their own hands. We ask that people come to court and give evidence so that nasty people can be locked up. In return the criminal justice system needs to do better," said Casey.
She said that she sometimes wondered that if murder victims' families had more money and weren't facing an untold bill because of their devastation, "would we treat them in the same way?"
Casey said the treatment of Milly Dowler's family in the Levi Bellfield court case had thrown the spotlight "on this rather odd scenario where in one court we have rich people pursuing their civil injunctions ... whereas down the road in the criminal court a family is being stripped in no uncertain terms of some of the moments with their family."
The Victims' commissioner says in her ground-breaking report published on Wednesday that families were often treated as a legal inconvenience.
"Families deserve to bury the body of their child without defence lawyers asking for autopsy after autopsy. They deserve not to have to sit next to the defendant's family in court listening to them laughing, or being intimidated by them. They deserve to be told that their husband's killer is going to be released before they bump into him in the supermarket. They deserved to be treated with some humanity in the witness box."
The proposed victims' law would include:
• a criminal practice direction to ensure families were treated with dignity and respect during court cases;
• judges should clear the court when particularly distressing evidence is about to be heard or at least the families given due warning;
• the right to information from the crown prosecution service, including meeting the prosecuting lawyer;
• the right to sentencing remarks from the judge in writing and trial transcripts;
• release of the body back to the family within 28 days;• courts to have a family meeting to ensure that their needs during the trial are met.
The survey of the 400 bereaved families showed that more than 60% faced financial difficulties after the case with each family facing an average bill of £37,000 for funerals, court travel costs and cleaning up crime scenes.
Casey said that more than 80% of families suffered symptoms of trauma after going to court and the same proportion had to wait more than a month to bury their loved ones. A quarter stopped working permanently.
The justice secretary, Kenneth Clarke, agreed that more could be done to get families the help they needed and tominimise the impact of bereavement. "We are working on our review of all victim support arrangements – this will include consideration of victims' services, entitlements and redress, designed to ensure that our time, money and best efforts are targeted at those in greatest need. As part of this review, we have been in constant dialogue with the Victims' Commissioner, victims and victim support organisations," he said.
ends
Former "Bond Girl" commits suicide by drinking sulfuric acid. Fucking brutal.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-14218733
postcards from my beloved Ipswich
http://www.eveningstar.co.uk/news/ipswich_evil_thug_jailed_indefinitely_for_horrific_attack_on_baby_1_996492
America's serious crime rate is plunging, but why?
Sociologists have offered explanations including abortion laws, a fall in crack use and – most contentiously – longer sentences
Chris McGreal
Chris McGreal in Washington
guardian.co.uk, Sunday 21 August 2011 18.00 BST
Article history
Violence in Washington
Police investigate a crime scene in Washington DC. Serious crime across America has fallen to a 48-year low. Photograph: Jean Louis Atlan/Sygma/Corbis
On one of the lifeless, uniform streets of America's capital, a bulky former crack cocaine dealer who goes by the nom de guerre of Tiny laments the passing of the old Washington DC.
"Back then they called it the murder capital of the world. These few blocks here were the murder capital of the murder capital of the world, and right here's where I did my business. Made a lot of money too," he says, hovering on a corner in the mostly black Trinidad neighbourhood a few blocks north of that largely white citadel, the Capitol. "Even sold it down by the White House. Could do anything back then. We owned this city. Now it's like everywhere else. One giant coffee shop."
Tiny long ago moved on to the more legal if less lucrative, and certainly less adrenaline-pumping, enterprise of parcel delivery, which is why he is reluctant to give a name other than the one he used to be known by on the streets.
Two decades ago, Washington DC had the highest murder rate in America. Now the drive-by shootings that claim the lives of innocent teenagers are infrequent enough to shock, and make the newspapers.
Criminologists and sociologists have spent years grappling to explain the dramatic slide in violent and other serious crime in the US capital, but it's not unique to Washington.
The latest FBI figures show that murder, rape, robberies and other serious crimes have fallen to a 48-year low across the country.
In Washington last year, 131 people were murdered, the lowest number in half a century. Two decades ago, there were 482 homicides in the city amid turf wars among drug gangs and crack-driven violent robberies.
It's a pattern replicated across the country.
In 2009, New York City had the lowest number of murders since detailed FBI records began in 1963. There was a small increase last year but even so the total of 536 homicide victims was still well below the 2,245 murdered in 1990 when Times Square was infamous for peep shows and drug pushers, not the Disney Store.
Twenty years ago, the murder rate for the whole US was 9.8 per 100,000 people. It has fallen by nearly half, although it is still twice the rate in France.
It's not just murder. Robberies were down nearly 10% last year and 8% the year before.
There are a score of explanations offered by sociologists for collapsing crime figures, from theories that it is tied to legalisation of abortion or reduction of lead in fuel to the closing of mental institutions.
One theory has it that better and swifter medical treatment has reduced the number of murders by saving the lives of assault victims who would otherwise have died. But that doesn't explain why overall violent crime is also down.
Anti-gun activists note that the cities with two of the sharpest falls in murder rates, New York and Washington, have enacted strict gun control laws by US standards. Yet Houston in Texas, where some regard it as criminal not to own a gun, has also seen a sharp drop in homicides.
One of the most widely accepted explanations is also one of the most politically and socially sensitive – that the imposition of sharply stiffer prison sentences since the early 1980s, which has resulted in the US having the highest rate of incarceration in the developed world, has kept large numbers of criminals off the streets.
The US imprisons 2.3 million of its citizens, a number that has risen dramatically since the 80s when state legislatures began greatly increasing prison sentences out of fear of the surging crime rate.
"We now incarcerate four times as many people as we did 20 years ago," said John Roman, director of the District of Columbia Crime Policy Institute, who has spent years studying crime trends in the city and the US. "Just by sheer size you've removed a lot of potential offenders from the street. I don't think that's very popular in many circles but it's very hard to argue with."
James Wilson, author of Thinking About Crime, backed that view in the Wall Street Journal recently.
"Imprisonment's crime-reduction effect helps to explain why the burglary, car-theft and robbery rates are lower in the US than in England. The difference results not from the willingness to send convicted offenders to prison, which is about the same in both countries, but in how long America keeps them behind bars. For the same offence, you will spend more time in prison here than in England," he wrote.
But Wilson adds that cannot be the sole explanation, as Canada has experienced roughly the same decline in crime without the same lengthening of prison sentences.
Roman says that in parallel with an ever-expanding jail population was the peak and collapse of the crack cocaine epidemic in major cities.
"If you look at the crime statistics over time you see one big rise throughout the 70s and then an additional big rise at the end of the 80s. That big rise at the end of the 80s was almost entirely due to the crack epidemic and users committing crimes to support their habits and due to violence within gangs and drug trafficking networks," he said.
He said that the crack epidemic burned itself out, largely because a new generation saw the effect of the drug on older users and were discouraged.
"As fewer and fewer new users entered the crack market it really started to dry up those networks and shrink them," he said.
On the streets of Washington, Tiny thinks there is something to both theories.
"There's a lot of guys who were from around here in jail. If you're black and you do crack you go to jail for a long time. There's guys who were selling here with me in the 80s who are still locked up," he said. "But I went out of business because nobody wanted to buy anymore. Crack got a bad name on the streets."
Sociologists credit a couple of other important factors in falling rates of some crimes. It is considerably more difficult than 30 years ago to steal a new car given all the electronic security, and houses are better protected.
An explanation favoured by some politicians and police officers traces back to New York's "zero tolerance" strategy in the early 1990s, which followed the theory that arrests for minor crimes deter major ones, and that most serious crimes are committed repeatedly by a small number of hardcore criminals.
Roman is sceptical, saying the strategy went hand in hand with a large increase in the size of the police force which led to more people being arrested for crimes in general. Also, detaining people for minor crimes, such as jumping the turnstiles at New York subway stations, led to a significant number of wanted criminals being nabbed. So the real effect was not so much to deter as to lock up.
There is no shortage of other theories.
One has it that the lead poisoning through paint and petrol of a generation raised in 60s and 70s caused violent behaviour as they entered their teens.
Steven Levitt, co-author of the bestselling book Freakonomics, has argued that the 1973 supreme court ruling legalising abortion reduced the number of criminals by reducing the number of unwanted babies born to single mothers who would raise youths prone to crime.
There are even those who believe the election of Barack Obama has inspired young black men to steer away from a life of crime, although that only works for the past two years and falls flat when trying to explain the past two decades.
Some theories have had to be binned outright.
A favourite of some sociologists was that economic hard times result in increased robbery and associated violence on the grounds that crime is a rational act prompted by particular circumstances. Yet, through the past three years of financial depression in the US, crime rates have not only continued to fall but the drop has accelerated in many cities.
With growing support for the view that high rates of imprisonment and lengthy sentences are a leading factor in reducing crime, the debate is now shifting to whether that is an argument for maintaining a policy that critics say is disproportionately applied to black men and causes other social damage, including taking fathers away from their children for much of their upbringing.
Roman thinks the policy may have served its purpose and should be changed.
"If you look at the homicide statistics from major cities in 1990 they're absolutely appalling. I think the reaction of the legislatures at the time was to say three strikes and you're out, mandatory minimums, you have to actually serve the time. They were responding to what was in front of them which was an epidemic of violence and I think to some extent they were right," he said.
"You can make the case that mass incarceration hastened the end of the crime wave. You would have a much more difficult time making the case that a continuation of that mass incarceration is necessary. The benefit from preventing crime, since crime rates are so much lower, is a lot smaller than it used to be and the costs continue to go up. We're investing more and more in prison and getting a smaller and smaller return."
But the public may not share that view. A recent poll showed most Americans feel crime is still getting worse.
Liking the case of 15 year old Karoliina Kesti here in Finland. I guess all those guys she spent the night with were not her friends after all....
It is curious how the nice and always so good church-girl suddenly is revealed to have "changed circle of friends", spending nights with boys, underage people drinking in some older people's empty apartments etc.
But of course, she's girl, 15, nice looking, so there's plenty of stories of her and guaranteed to be like the imatra teen-found-in-gutter story that went on for years.
So what happened to her? Was she killed or what?
Quote from: pestdemon on August 23, 2011, 10:51:36 AM
So what happened to her? Was she killed or what?
The case hasn't been solved yet but Police suspects that she had been kidnapped or murdered.
At this point the doubts about her death has strengthened.
Quote from: Scat-O-Logy on August 23, 2011, 04:02:13 PM
Quote from: pestdemon on August 23, 2011, 10:51:36 AM
So what happened to her? Was she killed or what?
The case hasn't been solved yet but Police suspects that she had been kidnapped or murdered.
At this point the doubts about her death has strengthened.
(http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/8692/kantokaroliina230811stl.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/52/kantokaroliina230811stl.jpg/)
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3769899/Gang-celebrated-rape-like-a-goal.html
an old school bushrapist has been working the local runningcircle/football field for most of the summer. roughly the same place and maybe nine wictims . they cought him now but the mature ladies I occasionally work with let out some fairly rude jokes on the matter.
going there to hang out after dark trying to get at least some action. but acting coy so the rapist wont run away.
or causing regret to the rapist for assaulting such old hags.
A woman raped a woman here the other day, both in their 40's. Pretty violently too. Lesbian rape must be rather unusual, can't think I've heard of it before? The victim, in the middle of the attack, weirdly enough proposed they should go out & have a smoke, to which the rapist even more weirdly agreed; once outside, the victim ran away. And it all took place in the laundry room, they were neighbours and the victim had supposedly turned down sexual invitations from the other woman, to her dismay.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14668270
An Austrian man is accused of imprisoning his daughters for over 40 years and sexually abusing them.
Quote from: pestdemon on August 25, 2011, 10:27:41 PMLesbian rape must be rather unusual, can't think I've heard of it before?
I'm a hard, cynical and woman hating man of course but I'm guessing it's a lot less unusual than everyone thinks. It would be interesting to see stats if they exist.
Just yesterday I was checking a doc about women behind bars.
It perfectly described the hyerarchies in the block, including the explicit sexual undertones, domination/violence/rape related issues.
The way some of the "bosses" were talking about young preys was no more/no less the same featured in the first episode of Oz.
The block leaders were 100% dyke stereotypes who I woldn't like to find in a dark alley.
Body found in rubble after explosion at Leicester kebab shop
Six people arrested after remains discovered in shop that exploded in the early hours of Monday morning
Sam Jones
guardian.co.uk, Tuesday 30 August 2011 11.18 BST
Article history
Police Line (Do Not Cross) tape
Leicestershire police have launched a criminal investigation after a body was pulled from the rubble of the kebab shop. Photograph: Maurice Savage / Alamy/Alamy
A body has been found in the rubble of a Leicester kebab shop that exploded in the early hours of Monday morning, police have revealed.
Six people – two men and four women – have been arrested in connection with the incident, which detectives are treating as suspicious.
The emergency services were called to the shop on Narborough Road at 2.23am on Monday following reports of an explosion.
They arrived to find the kebab shop had been destroyed and, at 4.30pm on Monday, a body was recovered from the remains of the building.
Leicestershire police have confirmed that a criminal investigation is under way, but have not identified the victim or given further details.
Neighbouring properties have been evacuated while police and fire investigators examine the scene, and parts of Narborough Road remain closed. Police are asking anyone who was in the area at the time of the incident and may have seen something to get in touch.
Kym Marshall, who lives in a nearby flat, told the Leicester Mercury that she had been woken up by a "massive bang and a shudder".
"It was very scary," said Marshall, 19. "There was debris everywhere, and the building was on fire.
"There were people running towards the building and others were shouting, 'Get back, there's been an explosion'."
Another local resident described the blast as "like an earthquake".
Warren Bernstein told the paper: "There was a popping noise coming from it and we weren't sure if it was going to go up again.
"People were screaming because they thought there might have been people in there. It must have been a powerful explosion because the metal security shutter was thrown across the road."
Anyone with any information is asked to contact Leicestershire constabulary on (0116) 222 2222 and quote incident 103 or call Crimestoppers anonymously on 0800 555 111.
http://www.timeslive.co.za/local/2011/08/28/wanted-facebook-racist (http://www.timeslive.co.za/local/2011/08/28/wanted-facebook-racist)
I guess it is that it child in picture what provokes the attention.
Remember the case with cat-stomping crush videos, where worldwide (wo-)manhunt is launched. And you wonder with all these people eating mangled animals all day everyday getting agitated by one kitten under high heel?
People die in acts of warfare, by people with utterly malicious intent to kill and destroy every day. If one lives under illusion that war is noble game, I guess it needs pictures like this to show it isn't.
Facebook Racist claims that "he paid the child to pose":
http://www.timeslive.co.za/politics/2011/08/29/facebook-racist-lashed
Quote from: Scat-O-Logy on August 23, 2011, 04:02:13 PM
Quote from: pestdemon on August 23, 2011, 10:51:36 AM
So what happened to her? Was she killed or what?
The case hasn't been solved yet but Police suspects that she had been kidnapped or murdered.
At this point the doubts about her death has strengthened.
(http://is13.snstatic.fi/kuvat/karoliinaloytyijuttu/img-1288551699966.jpeg)
The body of (supposedly) Karoliina Kesti was found from the lake called "Likolammi".
Police reported that there was no crime commited that related to her death. Only teen age foolishness.
Rest In Pieces...
Kids do that once in a while. A guy from my elementary school disappeared some year ago, found bobbing on a beach some month later. Can only remember him as a 15 year old jackass, but you have to speak well of the dead...
Reminds me a bit of earlier this summer, when suddenly a 30yr old woman disappeared from Malmö. It was revealed that over the past year, she had (without telling family or friends) lost her job and all her savings. Her boyfriend reported her missing early August, some months after her family had seen her the last time. A lot of people assumed the boyfriend, with a foreign sounding name, was involved in it, posting accusations on Facebook etc. Then one day they found her wandering confused at a playground some kilometres from her hometown. She must've been surprised finding out that her whole private life had become common knowledge in the media the past two-three weeks...
Leighton Buzzard 'slave' empire uncovered in major police raid
Five arrests made after 24 men released from caravan site, some held in virtual captivity for up to 15 years
reddit this
Alexandra Topping
guardian.co.uk, Sunday 11 September 2011 19.35 BST
Police raid Leighton Buzzard slave empire
Bedfordshire police have uncovered a modern-day slave empire on a caravan site in Leighton Buzzard. Photograph: John O'Reilly
Twenty-four modern day slaves were released from bondage on Sunday after a pre-dawn police raid found them emaciated, hungry and living in "filthy and cramped" conditions on a caravan site in Leighton Buzzard.
The men – Poles, Romanians and Russians as well as British – had been forced to survive in a "state of virtual slavery" at the Green Acres caravan site, according to Bedfordshire police.
The men varied in age from about 20 to 50 years old; all vulnerable men who had been recruited from homeless shelters and dole queues. Some are believed to have been in virtual captivity for up to 15 years.
Five people – four men and a woman – were arrested in the swoop on the mainly Traveller site at 5.30am on Sunday. The raid, involving 200 officers including armed police, dog units and a police helicopter, followed a long-running undercover operation. When police arrived at the site, which is estimated to have around 10-12 family sized plots, they discovered men they believe had been coerced into forced labour.
One had dog excrement on his clothes, and many were starving, said Detective Chief Inspector Sean O'Neil, of the Bedfordshire and Hertfordshire major crime unit, which was aided by officers from the UK Human Trafficking Centre.
He explained that the men had not received payment for physically demanding labouring jobs, were hardly fed and were given no clothes. If they complained they faced beatings.
"The men we found at the site were in a poor state of physical health and the conditions they were living in were shockingly filthy and cramped.
"We believe that some of them had been living and working there in a state of virtual slavery, some for just a few weeks and others for up to 15 years."
They have now been taken to a medical centre where their health is being assessed.
Police said some of the men will have to be carefully re-introduced to a proper diet; giving them a large amount to eat immediately could prove dangerous, as their bodies have existed on meagre rations for such a long period of time.
"This was a recruitment centre where people down on their luck were brought to," said O'Neil. "They had been found in soup kitchens and benefit offices and told they would be given work, clothing, a home and food.
These were people who might be alcoholics or have no family support, which made them easy prey.
"We heard in one case a man had been sitting on the parapet of a bridge ready to commit suicide when he was spotted by this gang and brought here to the site after being promised paid work and a roof over his head. It was all lies."
When new recruits arrived at the site they would have their mobile phones confiscated and their heads shaved, he added.
"They were told by the people who had brought them here 'you have no family now, we are your family'. If they wanted to leave they were threatened."
The men lived in unsanitary conditions, said Jo Hobbs, a spokeswoman for Bedfordshire police.
"There were up to four men living in tiny and filthy caravans which were unheated, and old. They had no access to running water, no toilet and no washing facilities," she said.
The men were thought to have worked from 7am until 7pm most days, performing a range of gruelling manual jobs including asphalting.
It was likely that they had been threatened to keep them working, said Paul Donohoe, a spokesman for the charity and lobby group Anti-Slavery. "People in this situation find they are not able to leave because, particularly if their immigration status is irregular, their gangmaster threatens to inform the police and they could be arrested.
"They could have also been threatened with violence against themselves or their family."
The five arrests were made under the slavery and servitude provisions of the Coroners and Justice Act, after police launched an undercover operation in April this year, following tip-offs from several other alleged victims.
Weapons, drugs and money were also found at the private site, which is thought to have been occupied by a mostly Traveller community for about 10 years.
The suspects were being held at police stations in Bedfordshire and Hertfordshire. Once the victims have been questioned, further arrests may be made.
If found guilty of forcing the men into labour, the gangmaster could face up to seven years in prison, said Donohoe. "If these people arrested are found guilty they must feel the full force of the law. Courts needs to send out the message that there is no place in Britain for slavery."
The law on slavery
Since the Coroners and Justice Act became law in early 2010, holding a person in servitude has become a criminal offence punishable by up to 14 years in prison. Exacting forced labour is punishable by up to seven years.
The act followed a change of heart by the government, which had argued that existing legislation outlawing slavery gave adequate protection.
The new offences were introduced after intense lobbying by campaigners, including Liberty and Anti-Slavery. They argued that too many loopholes existed because of the difficulty of proving the crime of people trafficking or the intent of a person profiting from forced labour.
The campaign intensified after at least 21 Chinese cockle pickers drowned in Morecambe Bay.
However, Paul Donohoe, a spokesman for Anti-Slavery, pointed out that the sentences handed down in recent cases had been as short as six months. "The campaign goes on," he said.
Maev Kennedy
my terror as a gipsy slave
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3810769/My-terror-as-a-gypsy-slave.html
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3815040/Vile-web-taunts-for-three-years.html
maybe a PE fan gone too far
troller of the world unite
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/sep/14/troll-sean-duffy-internet
Shit you want to see world class trolling trying posting on the Tronics board now...
http://www.sydsvenskan.se/sverige/article1554521/Svenskar-och-finnar-dodar-med-kniv.html
In Swedish. Studies by the "crime prevention counsel" (free translation) comparing lethal violence in Finland, Sweden and the Netherlands have now proven that most murders in Sweden and Finland are committed spontaneously by drunk men, at home, with kitchen knives. Lethal violence in the Netherlands on the other hand is planned, in the cities, with guns, most often gang related. Finland murders are more often in the countryside. No news there, really...
For anyone who still cares, Amanda Knox went free yesterday. USA USA !!!
hahaha...
Teemu Keskisarja: Kyynelten Kallio. Perhaps not the "true crime" in sense of what it often means, but this is pretty good new book. 400 pages, only in Finnish unfortunately, about Finland back in 1600-1700 and little bit about progress till 1800. While many higher cultures of the time have plenty of information, over here, very little of written information was beyond the upper class & church related things. Majority of normal folks lived lives not worth of writing about. Universities of the time focused on studying ideas of european classic thinking and bible, and aimed to not present any new ideas themselves.
Only real existing writing about the normal people is the court documents. Focus to times after heavy duty witch-hunt is already past, and the crimes book studies is murder, beastiality, incest, whoring, homosexuals, blasphemy, corrupted priests. You got people from every class fucking cows and horses, but idea of homosexuality comes very late.
Punishment in most of the crimes mentioned is death. Often it includes execution of all parties involved, also the animals used for bestial fun.
There are good stories of denial of god and pacts with devil written with blood drained from middlefinger of left hand and so on.
It portrays pretty brutal image of the Finnish woodlands before "proper civilization". Sweden is in control, yet their country has pretty much the same problems.
QuoteTeemu Keskisarja
Kyynelten kallio
Esiteollisen ajan sukupuolisuudesta on tehty kirjoja vähemmän kuin esiteollisen ajan teollisuudesta. Miksi ihmeessä, kysyy Teemu Keskisarja Kyyneltenkallion esipuheessa.
– Kun aihepiiri on tänään viihteellistynyt ja meheväksi möyhitty, ei kai se rutikuiva voinut olla eilenkään?
Kyynelten kallio tutkailee niin sanottujen tavallisten ihmisten kohtaloita.
– Muisteluksia, kirjeitä ja maalauksia syntyi yhden linnan tanssiaisista enemmän kuin tuhannen savupirtin siivottomuuksista. Kirjoitustaidottomasta kansasta arkistot tarjoavat nimiä, syntymä- ja kuolinpäiviä sekä maaomistuksen ja verotuksen numeroita, mutta ajatukset ja teot piiloutuvat, kirjoittaa Keskisarja.
Miten 1600- ja 1700-luvulla eläneisiin tavallisiin ihmisiin pääsisi käsiksi persoonina?
– Ojankaivajan ja lypsäjän tuntemukset ovat kadonneet iäksi, mutta pienoiselämäkertojen kohteiksi tarjoutuvat sentään rikolliset. Mitä törkeämpi teko, sen viitseliäämmin oikeus selvitti epäillyn vaiheita etsien todisteita ja asianhaaroja.
Aviorikkojien, eläimeensekaantujien, onanistien ja homoseksuaalien elämäntarinat valottavat menneisyyden maalaiskylän arkea. Samalla ne kertovat siitä, kuinka käsitykset oikeasta ja väärästä sekä luonnollisesta ja perverssistä ovat muuttuneet ajan myötä.
Suomen ensimmäiset homoseksuaalit olivat Heikki ja Heikki
Turun hovioikeuden istunnossa 14. lokakuuta vuonna 1665 oli esillä oikeushistorian kummajainen. Se koski Taivassalon kirkkoherra Claudius Brenneruksen renkejä Heikki Pekanpoikaa ja Heikki Mikonpoikaa. He saivat kuolemantuomion "sodomiittisesta synnistä".
Tuomio määrättiin toimeenpantavaksi Taivassalossa Kyynelten kallioksi kutsulla teloituspaikalla. Heikit piti kirveellä mestattaman ja roviolla poltettaman. He ovat Suomen ensimmäiset nimeltä tiedetyt homot.
Vastaavat tapaukset olivat harvinaisia, sillä Ruotsin valtakunnan oikeuslaitos vaikeni tästä sodomian muodosta. Havumetsien huminassa ja savupirttien hämärässä ei juuri ollut homoja eikä homovainojakaan. Esivallalla oli paljon pahempia kriminaalipoliittisia ongelmia. Suomessa harjoitettiin tiettyjä luonnonvastaisia syntejä enemmän kuin missään muualla kristikunnassa.
Filosofian tohtori, dosentti Teemu Keskisarjalla (s. 1971) on lukijaystävällinen, rento ja vauhdikas kirjoitustyyli.
– Yleistajuisen vastakohta ei ole tieteellinen vaan yleistajuton, hän sanoo.
– Joskus "tieteellinen" kieli sovittaa uusia vaatteita asioille, jotka ovat pohjimmiltaan alastomia. Lumppupaperilla lukee, että Antti löi Pekkaa ja Matti makasi Annan kanssa. Siinä kaikki ja se on paljon.
Viime syksynä julkaistu Keskisarjan kirja Vihreän kullan kirous – G.A. Serlachiuksen elämä ja afäärit valittiin Vuoden 2010 historiateokseksi. Ennen sitä Keskisarja on kirjoittanut muun muassa teokset Suomen ainoa sarjamurhaaja (Atena 2008) sekä Vääpeli T:n tapaus ja muita kertomuksia suomalaisesta terrorista (Atena 2010).
I think ive read a review for that book, I dont remember the name but I cant imagine two books written about such a specific thing.
one thing that it mentioned was how many bestiality charges there were. I think that when theres a bunch of people getting cought, that must mean that just about everybody was doing it. thumbs up
Ah who cares? Mother carries the children for about less then a year, they should have the right to restore the little ones' lives to nothing, should it be fitting their agendas. Always a good moment to express latent hatred of women or course, as mothers, carriers of new life and as sexual objects. But I haven't read the whole wikipedia article yet... but anyway, the idea of young mothers destroying their offspring which they cannot control, it's pretty hot.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missing_white_woman_syndrome
SWEET. Madonna/Lady Gaga complex.
Not exactly crime but definitely not how I would spend my morning break at work...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-15302674
Quote from: Peterson on October 08, 2011, 12:00:30 AM
Anybody have thoughts on the Casey Anthony/Caylee Anthony case? Woman child-killer goes free and nobody's really saying much, at least here.
she moved back to my parents county in ohio... maybe i need to meet a nice italian girl...
I think it may be fake http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3875350/Man-feared-eaten-by-cannibals.html
Quote from: tiny_tove on October 17, 2011, 10:32:08 AM
I think it may be fake http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3875350/Man-feared-eaten-by-cannibals.html
Strapping German remains!
Was going to post this is a film thread but I suppose it could go here just the same....
Just wondering if anyone has seen the film "Snowtown", which is loosely centered around South-Australian serial killer John Bunting and his relationship with the 16-year-old son of a friend. I watched it recently and was wondering what people around here though of it...
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1680114/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-15340426
"Three suspects have been charged with chaining four mentally disabled adults in a basement in Philadelphia and collecting their disability benefits."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/law/2011/oct/18/children-lost-human-trafficking
Mankinds feral nature proves itself stronger than any of the lofty ideals behind Occupy Whatever. Not even retard girls are safe.
http://www.wtam.com/cc-common/news/sections/newsarticle.html?feed=104668&article=9275253
Quote from: GEWALTMONOPOL on October 20, 2011, 08:57:55 PM
Mankinds feral nature proves itself stronger than any of the lofty ideals behind Occupy Whatever. Not even retard girls are safe.
http://www.wtam.com/cc-common/news/sections/newsarticle.html?feed=104668&article=9275253
For what its worth, ADD/ADHD isn't retarded, it just means she needs ritalin.
Also, great job, activist youth, raping someone is just what the collective "occupy" movements needed...
Hm, wasn't an American newsreporter gang-raped by Egyptians during the "revolution" earlier this year?
I recall some of Nasser's children behaving in an inappropriate manner towards a female reporter from America as well. My memory is only a distant one though. There's so much great stuff happening all the time.
This one is biased but funny:
http://bigjournalism.com/abreitbart/2011/10/20/source-abc-reporters-life-allegedly-threatened-at-occupy-oakland-we-shoot-white-bitches-like-you-around-here/
I'm not against going after Wall Street and the banks but it seems the majority of the people involved are sissys and considering the enemy that will just not do. People dressing up and having drum circles is beyond laughable. Send those fags back to Portland and bring in some "Plain Guys from Montana" and disgruntled ex-marines instead.
Police spy tricked lover with activist 'cover story'
Bob Lambert used false identity in 1980s to infiltrate protest movements while working for Metropolitan police special branch
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Paul Lewis and Rob Evans
guardian.co.uk, Sunday 23 October 2011 22.00 BST
Article history
Bob Lambert issued an unreserved apology to the woman he had an 18-month relationship with while working undercover. Photograph: guardian.co.uk
A former police spymaster who spent years living deep undercover in the protest movement has confessed he tricked an innocent woman into having a long-term relationship with him, as part of an elaborate attempt to lend "credibility" to his alter ego.
Bob Lambert, who adopted a false identity to infiltrate leftwing and animal rights groups, said he had the 18-month relationship with the woman, who was not herself involved in political activism, as part of his cover story.
The Guardian has detailed the cases of seven undercover police officers known to have infiltrated protest movements, mostly in the past decade. Of those, five have had sexual relationships with women who were oblivious to their real identities.
Lambert, who became an academic after a 26-year career in the special branch of the Metropolitan police, made the admission after the Guardian contacted him about their relationship.
In a statement, he offered an "unreserved apology" to the woman, who does not want her identity to be revealed, and said he was also sorry for deceiving "law-abiding members of London Greenpeace," a peaceful protest group.
His former partner, who recently discovered the long-haired political activist she had the relationship with in the 1980s was actually an undercover police officer, said she felt "violated" by the experience.
"I was cruelly tricked and it has made me very angry," the woman said. "I am actually quite damaged by the whole thing. I am still not over it."
Police chiefs have claimed that officers who spy on protesters are not permitted "under any circumstances" to sleep with activists. But police spies are known to have been having relationships with activists as recently as last year, as part of a secret police operation to monitor political activists that has been in place since the late 1960s.
In most cases, the police officers developed long-term relationships and their subsequent disappearance left women feeling traumatised and angry.
They include Mark Kennedy, who spent seven years living undercover in Nottingham as environmental campaigner "Mark Stone".
Another undercover police officer, Peter Black, said sex was a widely used "tool" to gain the trust of activists when he was deployed in the 1990s.
The woman duped by Lambert said their relationship came to an end more than 20 years ago after the man she knew as "Bob Robinson" vanished from her life, claiming to be in hiding from special branch. Lambert was, in fact, a special branch detective and would go on to rise through the ranks of the covert unit to a position in which he managed the deployments of several other spies.
Lambert is currently subject to a Metropolitan police review into whether he was prosecuted in a court using his false identity. The force is considering whether to refer his case to the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC).
On Friday, the Met referred the case of another undercover officer, Jim Boyling, to the IPCC, after evidence emerged that he posed as a defendant using his false identity in another court case.
After living undercover himself, Lambert went on to manage Boyling, who infiltrated environmental campaign groups and ended up marrying an activist he was sent to spy on and fathering two children with her.
Lambert and Boyling later worked for the Met's Muslim contact unit, which was created to improve relations with Muslims after the 11 September 2001 attacks.
Now an outspoken critic of the government's counter-terrorism strategy, Lambert has strongly denied the suggestion that the unit he set up was involved in surveillance of the Muslim community.
Lambert said his undercover role in the 1980s was part of a secret infiltration of the Animal Liberation Front, which was involved in a fire-bombing campaign at the time.
"As part of my cover story, so as to gain the necessary credibility to become involved in serious crime, I first built a reputation as a committed member of London Greenpeace, a peaceful campaigning group," he said in a statement to fellow anti-Islamophobia campaigners at the Spinwatch transparency campaign.
"I apologise unreservedly for the deception I therefore practiced on law abiding members of London Greenpeace.
"I also apologise unreservedly for forming false friendships with law abiding citizens and in particular forming a long-term relationship with [the woman] who had every reason to think I was a committed animal rights activist and a genuine London Greenpeace campaigner."
It is not clear why Lambert chose the woman as part of his cover story.
He added: "I should point out here that the vast majority of Met special branch undercover officers never made the mistakes I made, have no need to apologise for anything, and I deeply regret having tarnished their illustrious, professional reputation."
Lambert could be questioned by officials from HM Inspectorate of Constabulary, which is conducting a review into undercover policing of protest.
The review – one of nine disciplinary and judicial inquiries into the controversy in undercover policing – was initially conducted by Bernard Hogan-Howe before he took his post as Met commissioner.
The planned publication of his report, which had been expected to reject calls for more robust oversight of the use of undercover police officers, was abandoned on Wednesday, hours after the Guardian and BBC Newsnight revealed evidence undercover officers may have been lying in court.
http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/news/3896198/Maddie-perv-freed-because-hes-disabled.html
Child killer convicted of 1981 murder of girl in Northern Ireland
Police say Robert Black may be responsible for six other murders after he was found guilty of killing Jennifer Cardy
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Henry McDonald, Ireland correspondent
guardian.co.uk, Thursday 27 October 2011 12.50 BST
Article history
Jennifer Cardy
Jennifer Cardy, 9, was abducted and murdered by Robert Black in August 1981, a court found. Photograph: Pa
The convicted child sex killer Robert Black has been found guilty of murdering a nine-year-old girl in Northern Ireland three decades ago.
Jennifer Cardy was abducted from a road near her home in Ballinderry in County Antrim on 12 August 1981. Since his conviction for murdering three other children, Black has been a prime suspect in the Cardy case.
Robert Black Robert Black. Photograph: Niall Carson/PA
Addressing Armagh crown court, the judge told Black: "There is only one sentence that can be imposed and that is a life sentence. Take him down."
Following his conviction, detectives said they believed Black could be responsible for six other child killings in the UK that remain unsolved. Outside the court in Armagh the detectives described him as an "aggressive predatory paedophile" and someone the like of whom they hoped they would never encounter again. They compared him to the Moors murderer Ian Brady in terms of his callousness.
One of those who spoke about the 30-year long case involving six police forces was retired detective Roger Orr, who interviewed Black and said there was a coldness in the killer's "somewhat empty eyes".
During the five-week trial, the jury heard that Jennifer had left her home to cycle a short distance to meet a friend.
Her red bicycle, which had been a birthday present two weeks earlier, was later found thrown over a hedge close to her home.
After a huge search operation, her body was found at McKee's Dam near Hillsborough, six days after she disappeared. At the time Black was working as a delivery driver for a London-based poster company and was travelling all over the UK.
The prosecution said his job had brought him to the Lisburn area on 12 August, the day Jennifer went missing.
The jury heard that he stopped Jennifer before she reached her friend's house, abducted her, sexually assaulted her and killed her before dumping her body.
He had always denied killing her.
During his trial it was revealed that he was a predatory paedophile who fantasised about abducting, raping and killing young girls.
In 1982, he abducted and murdered 11-year-old Susan Maxwell from the village of Cornhill-on-Tweed, close to the border between England and Scotland.
A year later, Caroline Hogg, five, disappeared from outside her home in the seaside resort of Portobello, just outside Edinburgh.
Ten days later, the child's body was found in a ditch in Leicestershire.
A third girl, 10-year-old Sarah Harper, was abducted as she walked from a corner shop near her home in Morley, Leeds.
She was murdered by Black and her body discovered in the river Trent in Nottingham.
Black, who is originally from Scotland, was caught after abducting a six-year-old girl in Stow in the Scottish Borders in 1990, nine years after Jennifer's murder.
He had been spotted and was caught a short time later with the abducted girl trussed up in a sleeping bag in the back of his van.
Black was given a life sentence for abduction and in 1994 was convicted for the murders of Susan, Caroline and Sarah.
Those Russians are at it again...
Russian 'grave robber made dolls from girls' corpses'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-15653074
Quote from: GEWALTMONOPOL on October 21, 2011, 06:14:05 PM
I'm not against going after Wall Street and the banks but it seems the majority of the people involved are sissys and considering the enemy that will just not do. People dressing up and having drum circles is beyond laughable. Send those fags back to Portland and bring in some "Plain Guys from Montana" and disgruntled ex-marines instead.
I fully agree. These hippy pussies aren't doing shit, they never do. I don't really care at this point about this whole Wallstreet shit because it doesn't really effect me and my work but there should be more rednecks with guns, and the property damaging type of anarchist's out there.
Teen girl held as sex-slave for a year by a retarded gypsie (http://www.thelocal.se/37268/20111109/)
Quote from: RyanWreck on November 10, 2011, 02:02:00 AM
Quote from: GEWALTMONOPOL on October 21, 2011, 06:14:05 PM
I'm not against going after Wall Street and the banks but it seems the majority of the people involved are sissys and considering the enemy that will just not do. People dressing up and having drum circles is beyond laughable. Send those fags back to Portland and bring in some "Plain Guys from Montana" and disgruntled ex-marines instead.
I fully agree. These hippy pussies aren't doing shit, they never do. I don't really care at this point about this whole Wallstreet shit because it doesn't really effect me and my work but there should be more rednecks with guns, and the property damaging type of anarchist's out there.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2011/11/police_arrest_man_at_occupy_po.html
Also:
http://www.wweek.com/portland/article-18140-notes_from_the_occupation.html
It started maybe, MAYBE, as something worthwhile. Then the hippie love-in ensued and with that the freaks, psycho's and the dangerously unhinged joined in and took over. The hippies and trust fund liberals don't have the capability to control that. Now they're asking the police to do it for them. "Excuse me Mr Pig, would you mind escorting those unruly individuals off the premises. They totally ruined yesterdays drum circle and the children are afraid of them. No? Aw shoot! Where the law when you really need it???". Yeah, fuck capitalism, eh?
I can't imagine the Rothschilds losing any sleep over this "movement" anytime soon. If this thing ever stood a chance it's long gone.
force feeding mom condemned
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/nov/11/nurse-jailed-baby-force-feeding
A list of 50 of the most infamous US female teacher sex scandals. Not tons of info but still worth checking out.
http://www.zimbio.com/The+50+Most+Infamous+Female+Teacher+Sex+Scandals
This interview with Jerry Sandusky and his defense attorney is worth watching. The way Sandusky answers at 7:14 is priceless.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Xy0L8MUsOE
Oh, and when you think that his attorney Joe Amendola looks like a Houellebecq-type perv, you're probably right.
http://blog.thedaily.com/post/12814855718/breaking-sandusky-lawyer-impregnated-a-teen
HaHa. Also watched this on The Daily Show last night. Going into that whole thing about hows he enjoys being around young people probably wasn't such a wise move.
(http://d1g4sq00ps2bp3.cloudfront.net/photographs/15647.jpg)
There is always time for a picture of the wonderfully named KING ZOG. This is my favourite though
(http://www.goldcoastmansions.com/images/gold%20coast%20mansion%20images/KingZog.jpg)
Extent of injuries to children in private jails revealed
Serious injuries detected on 285 occasions when children have been restrained in privately run jails over the past five years
Alan Travis, home affairs editor
The Guardian, Tuesday 22 November 2011
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Serious injuries or other life-threatening warning signs have been detected on 285 occasions when children have been physically restrained in privately run jails over the past five years, according to Ministry of Justice figures.
The figure reflects the number of "exception reports" submitted by the four privately run secure training centres to the youth justice board since 2006.
The warning signs triggering an exception report include struggling to breathe, nausea, vomiting, limpness and abnormal redness to the face.
Serious injuries are classified as those requiring hospitalisation and include serious cuts, fractures, concussion, loss of consciousness and damage to internal organs.
The MoJ figures, which have been disclosed for the first time, show that there were 61 such exception reports made last year. There have been 29 so far in the first 10 months of this year.
Their disclosure comes as a two-day High Court challenge is due to get underway over the MoJ's refusal to identify and trace hundreds of children who have been unlawfully restrained in the privately run child jails using techniques that have since been banned. Children's rights campaigners believe they should be entitled to compensation.
The Children's Rights Alliance for England (Crae) has brought the case challenging the justice secretary, Ken Clarke's, refusal to contact former detainees dating back to 1998, when the first secure training centre opened. The legal challenge follows a second inquest earlier this year into the death of 14-year-old Adam Rickwood, who was found hanging in his room at Hassockfield Secure Training Centre, where he was on remand in 2006. It concluded there was a serious system failure which gave rise to an unlawful regime at the child jail.
The use of several "distraction" restraint techniques, that involved inflicting pain with a severe blow to the nose or ribs, or by pulling back a child's thumb, were banned in 2008. The use of physical restraint techniques to control teenagers simply for the purposes of "good order and discipline" was also ruled unlawful by the court of appeal.
Carolyne Willow, Crae's national co-ordinator, said their lawyers will argue there had been a chronic failure by the authorities to protect vulnerable children over many years.
"It was not children's responsibility to know about, challenge and stop unlawful and abusive treatment," said Willow, adding there were potentially thousands of former detainees who should now be contacted.
"Children in custody are among the most disadvantaged in society and they were held in closed institutions where unlawful restraint was routine and ordinary. It was the state, and the private contractors, who were duty-bound to protect the welfare and rights of vulnerable children."
She said that government officials now had a duty to notify potential victims that their rights had been infringed. The abuses should no longer remain hidden and unchallenged.
The security company, G4S, which operates three of the four child jails is also joining the case as an 'interested party'.
The MoJ has maintained that it has no duty to notify former detainees and insisted that safety of young people in custody has always been its highest priority. The MoJ has previously said that restraint is only ever used as a last resort when young people put themselves or other people's safety at risk.
The justice minister, Lord McNally, has told peers that the 285 exception reports since 2006 were submitted by secure training centres if any warning signs or serious injuries were detected during or following the use of physical control in care - as the current system of restraint is called.
He said they were used to gather evidence and enable the incident to be reviewed by the youth justice board to identify ways of improving the safety and efficacy of restraint methods.
The exception reports are passed to a panel, which includes medical experts, who consider every case and are able to report to ministers any significant issues, said Lord McNally.
lol
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3954872/Burglar-16-told-to-write-apology-letter-to-victims-but-just-scrawlsNOT-BOTHERED.html
Amish on the rampage
Seven members of Amish breakaway group arrested over haircut attacks
US authorities raid compound and arrest seven men – including group leader Sam Mullet – on federal hate crime charges
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guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 23 November 2011 18.37 GMT
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Amish community
Amish people in Gordonville, Pennsylvania. Several members of the breakaway group forcefully cut the beards and hair of others, authorities said. Photograph: Richard Ellis/Getty Images
US authorities have raided the compound of a breakaway Amish religious group and arrested seven men on federal hate crime charges in haircutting attacks against Amish men and women.
Cutting the hair is a highly offensive act to the traditional Amish, who believe the Bible instructs women to let their hair grow long and men to grow beards and stop shaving once they marry. Several members of the breakaway group forcefully cut the beards and hair of Amish men and women in September and October, authorities said.
Among those arrested Wednesday were the group's leader, Sam Mullet, and three of his sons, said Mike Tobin, a spokesman for the US attorney's office in Cleveland. He said authorities were planning to hold a news conference on Wednesday afternoon to explain why they charged the men with hate crimes.
The attacks struck at the core of the Amish identity and tested their principles.
The Amish strongly believe that they must be forgiving in order for God to forgive them, which often means handing out their own punishment and not reporting crimes to law enforcement.
The Amish have a modest lifestyle and are deeply religious. Their traditions of travelling by horse and buggy and foregoing most modern conveniences distance themselves from the outside world. Ohio has an estimated Amish population of just under 61,000, second only to Pennsylvania in the US.
Mullet told the Associated Press in October that he did not order the haircutting, but didn't stop his sons and others from carrying it out. He said the goal was to send a message to local Amish that they should be ashamed of themselves for the way they were treating Mullet and his community.
"They changed the rulings of our church here, and they're trying to force their way down our throat, make us do like they want us to do, and we're not going to do that," Mullet said.
The seven men were sleeping when the FBI and local police showed up at their homes before dawn Wednesday, Jefferson County sheriff Fred Abdalla said. All were arrested without incident, he said.
The attacks came amid long-simmering tension between Mullet's group, which he established in 1995, and Amish bishops. Arlene Miller, the wife of one victim, said several bishops had condemned Mullet's decision to excommunicate several members who previously left his community, saying there was no spiritual justification for his action.
Five men were charged in state court last month in Holmes County, the heart of Ohio's Amish country, in an attack on an Amish bishop and his son. They allegedly were held down while men used scissors and a clipper to cut their beards. Similar alleged attacks were under investigation in Amish communities in eastern and northeastern Ohio.
Two of the men arrested Wednesday, Mullet's sons Johnny and Lester, were among the five charged last month. The charges are pending.
Authorities have said some Amish refused to press charges, following their practice of avoiding involvement in the courts.
One couple refused to press charges even after acknowledging that their two sons and another man came into their house, held them down, and cut the father's beard and the mother's hair. But others have said they decided to press charges to prevent anyone else from getting hurt.
when we're not being laughed about because of our governement, we hit the news in style :
http://news.yahoo.com/death-toll-belgian-attack-rises-4-154123200.html (http://news.yahoo.com/death-toll-belgian-attack-rises-4-154123200.html)
take that Christmas shoppers!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-16172662
update on the Belgian gunman
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-16236866
Woman set on fire in her apartment elevator by a man. Too bad there are no pictures.
http://vanessawest.tripod.com/crimescenephotos.html
bunch of things ive never seen before
in Lithuania police is searching for a man who beheaded and cut into pieces his mother, later made "tattoos with apocalyptic signs" like APOK under one of his eyes and is currently on a run. There are a couple of dead drivers found on the way towards border with Poland. Sorry, no info about him in English, but it's quite interesting where will this story go.
here we go
plenty of military rape, including male gang rape galore
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2011/dec/09/rape-us-military
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-16427840
"boy murdered over witch claim"
"We'll Kill You If You Cry"
http://www.hrw.org/node/12376/section/8
One of the women was six months pregnant and slightly disabled. She was last in the row. When it was her turn, she was stabbed in the neck and fell down. The rebels started to discuss whether she was carrying a boy or a girl. They bet on the sex of the baby so they decided to check it. Kill Man No Blood split open her belly. It was a boy. One of the other rebels took the baby out and showed everyone that it was a boy. The baby was still alive when he threw it on the ground next to the woman but died shortly after. As the rebels took me away, I saw six men who had just been amputated. Some had an arm cut off below the elbow, others above the elbow. They were screaming, "Please kill us, don't leave us this way."
dead female in Antwerp parking lot http://www.deredactie.be/cm/vrtnieuws/regio/antwerpen/120102_parking (http://www.deredactie.be/cm/vrtnieuws/regio/antwerpen/120102_parking) .....area known for prostitution at night, porntheater nearby etc etc ....
the witchcraft bedwetter
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4049572/Sorcery-lads-wet-pants-led-to-killing.html
Quote from: tiny_tove on April 14, 2011, 02:32:00 PM
'Double Initial' killer may have struck elsewhere
by STAFF REPORTER
Published: Today - the sun
A 77-YEAR-OLD man has been charged with killing four women he allegedly targeted because their first and last initials were the same.
Police fear Joseph Naso, from Nevada, may be responsible for more deaths while travelling across the US working as a professional photographer.
They believe he killed Roxene Roggasch in 1977, Carmen Colon in 1978, Pamela Parsons in 1993 and Tracey Tofoya in 1994.
The murders took place in three different northern California counties.
The women have little in common but their quirky names.
Investigators found evidence at Naso's home in Reno last year that tied him to the slayings.
"When you are talking about a person who has killed more than once, this doesn't stop," said Chris Perry of the Nevada Department of Public Safety.
"We think there are others out there we haven't discovered yet."
And detectives in New York are looking into whether he could be responsible for what they call the "Double Initial Murders" of three young girls who were abducted, raped and strangled in Rochester in the 1970s.
One of the victims in the New York case was also named Carmen Colon.
"We expected the calls the moment the arrest became public," said Allan Dombroski, a senior investigator with the New York State Police.
But the New York victims were children, while the California victims were women, leading some to question a possible link.
Naso is being held without bail at Marin County Jail in San Rafael in California
http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_19727373 (http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_19727373)
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2012/01/13/BAUS1MONOS.DTL (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2012/01/13/BAUS1MONOS.DTL)
Anneli Auer case getting boosted with details again, hah...
Murder, abuse... now the animal killings / abuse.
Haha! Killer of Olga "Kristiina" Piscugina(same girl as in the Snuff tape) in Voice of Finland singing competition.
06:20 --> http://www.nelonen.fi/ohjelmat/voice-finland/kaikki-videot?vt=video_episode&vid=358120
He's also some sort of karaoke champion.
(http://www.rikary.fi/Jarno_Blom01.jpg)
Man of many talents!
Suomeksi juttua tuosta: http://www.murha.info/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=458664#p458528
South Africa: several men who killed a lesbian woman get 18 years in prison.
"Lesbians are often subjected to "corrective rape" by men who think this will "cure" them of their homosexuality."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-16835653
Someone has to do a song called "Corrective Rape"! Maybe Xenophobic Ejaculation should cover Africa. They could do so much better than William Bennett.
those african woman are so ugly... WB was into new britain now into africa&israel wtf happened with him ? back to ravensbruck !
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on February 03, 2012, 02:10:04 AM
Someone has to do a song called "Corrective Rape"! Maybe Xenophobic Ejaculation should cover Africa. They could do so much better than William Bennett.
As soon as I read the article that's what I thought.
Hi all
I must say that I should be focusing more of my attention here.
I am reading this now, story of Lake and Ng former millitary who built a concrete bunker for their sex slaves, very close to the state capital of sacramento California.
http://books.google.com/books?id=qzl-dEX29psC&pg=PA264&dq=die+for+me+lake+ng&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Ag0yT6GjCMOWiQLi6N3PCg&ved=0CEEQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=die%20for%20me%20lake%20ng&f=false (http://books.google.com/books?id=qzl-dEX29psC&pg=PA264&dq=die+for+me+lake+ng&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Ag0yT6GjCMOWiQLi6N3PCg&ved=0CEEQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=die%20for%20me%20lake%20ng&f=false)
The stuff about the unicorn/goat is really strange in that Lake/Ng book.
"Like a mermaid, sweeheart":
http://www.justice.gov/usao/nj/Press/files/pdffiles/2012/Mahoney,%20Jennifer%20Complaint.pdf
Quote from: HongKongGoolagong on February 08, 2012, 11:46:19 PM
The stuff about the unicorn/goat is really strange in that Lake/Ng book.
"Like a mermaid, sweeheart":
http://www.justice.gov/usao/nj/Press/files/pdffiles/2012/Mahoney,%20Jennifer%20Complaint.pdf
Unicorn?
I had a police statement from one of the Wonderland arrests (I think) that cataloged and described the videos on his computer (there was something like 72) like they did in the above statement. I need to find that again, anyone know which one I am talking about?
Yeah, apparently Lake used to hang around with this like surgically modified goat that had a unicorn horn attached, to entice female children to take "professional" photographs and possibly do other things to them.
Oh! That must be the unicorn goat on the Consumer Electronics/Merzbow cover art?
Quote from: RyanWreck on February 10, 2012, 05:00:11 AM
Oh! That must be the unicorn goat on the Consumer Electronics/Merzbow cover art?
The same. I believe the hooded figure in the cover is Lake.
"sex gang plied girls with drink"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-17117530
former IMF head questioned in regards to prostitution ring
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17110618
Bouncer jailed for rape and murder of pregnant teenager Nikitta Grender
Carl Whant raped 19-year-old, who was two weeks away from giving birth, stabbed her and set fire to her home
Press Association
guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 22 February 2012 12.07 GMT
Article history
Carl Whant
Carl Whant has been convicted of the rape and murder of heavily pregnant teenager Nikitta Grender. Photograph: Tim Ireland/PA
Former nightclub bouncer Carl Whant has been sentenced to life in prison with a minimum of 35 years for the rape and murder of heavily pregnant teenager Nikitta Grender.
Grender, 19, was two weeks away from giving birth when Carl Whant, who had been taking drugs, called at her flat at around 5am on 5 February last year.
Whant raped the mother-to-be, who was the girlfriend of his closest friend and cousin, Ryan Mayes, then slashed her throat and stabbed her in the abdomen.
In an attempt to disguise his crimes, he then set fire to her home in Newport, south Wales, which was ready for the imminent arrival of baby Kelsey May.
The blaze also claimed the life of Grender's pet dog, which burned slowly for two hours before it was discovered by a neighbour.
Despite throwing away the murder weapon, Whant, 27, of Bettws, near Newport, was caught after DNA evidence was found at the scene and in his car.
Whant had claimed he had consensual sex with Grender just hours before her death.
The jury at Newport crown court rejected his explanation that the reason he was driving near Grender's flat near sunrise was to "pick up fags" from his grandmother's house.
Whant was found guilty of murder, rape, child destruction and arson.
He appeared to yawn as the four unanimous guilty verdicts were delivered.
Mayes looked at Whant and shook his head at each verdict.
'Witchcraft' trial: there may be similar unreported cases, say police
In wake of convictions, police warn that ritualised abuse of children branded as witches is often hidden crime in UK
Alexandra Topping
guardian.co.uk, Thursday 1 March 2012 19.06 GMT
Article history
Witchcraft trial: there may be many similar unreported cases, say police
Kristy Bamu was murdered by Eric Bikubi and Magalie Bamu because they claimed he was a witch. Photograph: Metropolitan Police/PA
Police and groups representing African communities have warned that ritualised abuse of children branded as witches is an under-reported and hidden crime in the UK, as a man and woman were convicted of murdering a 15-year-old boy because they believed he was a witch.
Eric Bikubi and Magalie Bamu, both 28, murdered Magalie's brother Kristy Bamu in their east London flat after violently abusing him for several days because they believed he was possessed by evil spirits.
Bikubi and Bamu also accused two of the teenager's sisters of witchcraft and were found guilty of causing actual bodily harm after abusing them for several days. The pair will be sentenced on Monday.
Over four days, Kristy, who was visiting his sister with his siblings from France for Christmas, was tortured with metal bars, a chisel, a hammer and a pair of pliers in a "prolonged attack of unspeakable savagery and brutality", the court heard.
In a victim impact statement Pierre Bamu, Kristy's father, said: "The fact that Kristy died at the hands of those who were expected to look after him and his siblings makes it all the more difficult for us to come to terms with."
He said the family had been betrayed over the killing of a "fine young man", adding: "We will never forget, but to put our lives back into sync we must forgive."
Speaking outside the Old Bailey, Detective Superintendent Terry Sharpe said the Met police had done a great deal of work to understand and deal with belief-based child abuse. "However, this is a hidden and under-reported crime and therefore difficult to deal with in terms of protecting potential victims from harm," he said.
Kristy's ordeal began soon after he arrived in London on 16 December 2010. Bikubi, a man he thought of as his uncle, accused him of witchcraft after he wet himself. He forced Kristy and two of his sisters who he also believed were witches – Kelly, 20, and their 11-year-old sister, who cannot be named – to pray, denying them food and sleep in an attempt to "remove the kindoki", the Lingala word for witchcraft.
Bikubi – helped and encouraged by Bamu – then focused on Kristy, using an "armoury of weapons". He beat the child with a metal bar used for weights, shoved a metal bar into the teenager's mouth, forced him to eat a screw and struck him with a hammer in the face, knocking out his teeth. Bamu also beat him, taking a pair of pliers and wrenching his ear.
On Christmas Day 2010, when Kristy was weakened due to the beatings, Bikubi forced the boy and his siblings into a bath to wash away the evil spirits. He doused them with water and, as the bath filled, Kristy was submerged and drowned.
When Kristy was found by paramedics in the eighth-floor flat in Forest Gate, his head, face, back and arms were covered in deep cuts and bruises, and several of his teeth were missing. Pathologist reports revealed he suffered 101 injuries and died as a result of drowning and the injuries.
Giving evidence through a French interpreter, Kelly said the pair were fixated on the idea that the three siblings were practising witchcraft. "It was as if they were obsessed by that and then it became absolutely unbearable," she told the court. "I repeated again and again and again that we were not witches that we had come there to spend Christmas as a family together. But I don't know what was going on in their minds. They decided we were there to kill them."
In a "staggering act of depravity and cruelty", the defendants recruited sibling against sibling as "vehicles for their violence", with Kristy's brother forced to stand guard to make sure he did not escape. Just before he died, two of the younger children were made to clean up Kristy's blood, which covered the flat.
In a joint statement, the NSPCC and World Vision said Kristy's was not an isolated case: "The vast majority of people in the communities where it can take place are horrified by these acts and take no part in this atrocious behaviour, so we must not be afraid to challenge these communities to out the wrong-doers within them.
In a statement, Congolese Pastorship UK denounced any ritualised child abuse and said it planned to improve its monitoring system and procedures with a refresher child safeguarding programme.
On Christmas day, the day Kristy died, Bikubi called his father Pierre Bamu and threatened to kill the child, before passing the phone to Kristy who also warned him that Bikubi would kill him.But Pierre dismissed fears about the children because he could not imagine Bikubi doing any harm to them. Kristy's parents then attempted to get a last-minute hire car but failed, and instead decided to arrive as planned two days later. A few hours later, they received a call from Kelly to tell them Kristy was dead.
Pierre Bamu said in a statement at the Old Bailey that the pain of Kristy's death was "something which cannot be measured or calculated", adding that the family had been betrayed by Bikubi and his daughter. "We were always fond of Eric and regarded him as a son. We were proud that he would call us Mum and Dad. As a family we planned our futures together and Eric and I were to open a restaurant in London together as a legacy for our family," he wrote. "Kristy was a fine young man, kind and considerate, much loved by his family and friends. We saw that he was becoming a man."
A Malmö-based female reverend connected to the sectarian Christian congregation "The River" (based in Borås, across the street from my partner's grandmother) is accused of abusing and beating a 14 year old girl, together with her father + stepmother, in attempts at exorcising demons possessing the girl. She was beaten, taunted in violent prayer rituals, burnt with hot knives, had her hair shaved off & feet tied, and was isolated & not allowed to touch anyone else, so as to not infect others with her demons. Her brother was also involved in the abuse.
Britain's government is planning to sell it's police force to the highest bidder. Cyberpunk novels are slowly becoming reality..
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/mar/02/police-privatisation-security-firms-crime
Quote...The breathtaking list of policing activities up for grabs includes investigating crimes, detaining suspects, developing cases, responding to and investigating incidents, supporting victims and witnesses, managing high-risk individuals, patrolling neighbourhoods, managing intelligence, managing engagement with the public, as well as more traditional back-office functions, such as managing forensics, providing legal services, managing the vehicle fleet, finance and human resources.
Quote from: Niko on March 04, 2012, 11:42:32 PM
Britain's government is planning to sell it's police force to the highest bidder. Cyberpunk novels are slowly becoming reality..
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/mar/02/police-privatisation-security-firms-crime
Quote...The breathtaking list of policing activities up for grabs includes investigating crimes, detaining suspects, developing cases, responding to and investigating incidents, supporting victims and witnesses, managing high-risk individuals, patrolling neighbourhoods, managing intelligence, managing engagement with the public, as well as more traditional back-office functions, such as managing forensics, providing legal services, managing the vehicle fleet, finance and human resources.
The SHIFTMAN should start his own vigilante crew.
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1926-2012
never forget
Body parts found in University of Cologne's cellars
Hundreds of human body parts have been found in the cellars of the institute of anatomy, apparently abandoned for years
Kate Connolly in Berlin
guardian.co.uk, Tuesday 13 March 2012 20.32 GMT
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Main building of the University of Cologne
Hundreds of body parts have been found in the cellars of the University of Cologne's anatomy department. Photograph: Stefano Paterna /Alamy
The University of Cologne is investigating after hundreds of human body parts were found in the cellars of its institute of anatomy, apparently abandoned there for years.
The scandal has shaken the German academic world, especially as last month the former head of the anatomy department was found dead, apparently having taken his life when rumours began to circulate.
According to a first report made available to Spiegel Online, university staff discovered a room full of human adult corpses and animal cadavers, as well as a large number of plastic buckets, labelled "noses", "newborns" and "shark head". Evidence gathered by hygiene experts and fire safety officers accompanying the staff indicated that the room might have been left unused for a decade or more.
About 100 corpses of people who had donated their bodies to medical research, but who should by then have long been buried, were among the macabre discoveries. The institute has been trying to identify them using a highly muddled donor archive.
One of the staff, a man who wished to remain anonymous, said that at the time of the visit "the cooling system was broken, and the room smelt accordingly bad". He described the scene as "quite disgusting" and "reminiscent of a horror film".
According to the report, the group took mould samples from the walls and the corpses, analysis of which also indicated the room had been left unused for years.
The university rector, Axel Freimuth, has called the discovery "completely unacceptable" and said it had "deeply shattered and shocked" the university. He said the animal cadavers could be traced back to a past link between the institute and Cologne zoo.
A commission is investigating further, but the public prosecutor's office has said there is no evidence of any crime.
The body of Professor Jürgen Koebke, 66, the institute's former head, was found under a bridge in Cologne last month days after rumours began to circulate; police suspect he stabbed himself to death, and he left a note in which he made reference to the irregularities at his institute. He is said to have been respected by staff and students alike.
The scandal has brought into focus the practice of donating corpses to anatomical institutes for medical purposes. While long popular in Germany, the trend has greatly increased over the past decade since the government scrapped state support for funeral costs leaving people looking for ways to save money.
Institutes have had to find ways of ensuring they do not take more corpses than they need for the purposes of training medical students, as supply has greatly exceeded demand.
Manhunt underway for French school shooting suspect
TOULOUSE, France – Police blanketed southern France on Tuesday, searching for a gunman -- possibly a racist, anti-Semitic serial killer -- who shot dead four people at a Jewish school and may have filmed his attack.
The manhunt took place as friends and family tearfully mourned those slain at close range in the city of Toulouse -- a rabbi, his two young sons and a young girl.
Authorities suspect the killer at the Jewish school was also behind two recent attacks in the same area on French paratroopers that left three dead and one seriously wounded. The soldiers were of North African and French Caribbean backgrounds.
A "monster" is on the loose in France, French President Nicolas Sarkozy declared, vowing to track him down.
"There are beings who have no respect for life. When you grab a little girl to put a bullet in her head, without leaving her any chance, you are a monster. An anti-Semitic monster, but first of all a monster," he said.
Focus fell Tuesday on a group of three paratroopers who had been expelled from their regiment near Toulouse in 2008 for neo-Nazi sympathies, a police official said. The killer on Monday handled large-caliber guns with expertise, leading some to suspect he had a military or police background.
France was reeling Tuesday after Monday's shooting, the deadliest school shooting in the country and the bloodiest attack on Jewish targets in decades. Schools across the country held a moment of silence Tuesday to honor the victims, who were heading to Israel for burial.
Interior Minister Claude Gueant described the suspect as "someone very cold, very determined, very much a master of his movements, and by consequence, very cruel."
Gueant said the attacker was wearing a camera around his neck that could be used to film and post video online. He said that gave investigators new clues to the killer's "profile," although he admitted they don't appear to close to an arrest.
He mentioned the three paratroopers who had been kicked out but insisted it was just one of many leads being investigated and "not favored any more than the others."
Norway's Anders Behring Breivik, the right-wing extremist who killed 77 people in a rampage last year, had suggested in an online manifesto before the killings that a camera could be used to film such ethnic-cleansing "operations." There was no mention in his indictment that he used one.
In Monday's shooting, the attacker first gunned down a rabbi and his two young sons, then chased down the daughter of the school principal, shooting her dead at point-blank range. Reports of the children's ages varied, with the Israeli Embassy saying Tuesday the boys were 3 and 5 and the girl was 8.
Police are investigating the possibility that the killer is a former soldier with psychological troubles and racist and anti-Semitic views. One soldier was briefly held then released over the weekend, after the paratrooper killings but before the school shooting, the police official said. The official was not authorized to speak while the investigation is ongoing.
At the site of the second paratrooper killing, police found the charger for the gun used in all three attacks, but found no fingerprints or DNA on it, the official said.
Police are studying the online communications by the first paratrooper killed. He was shot March 11 after posting an announcement online to sell his motorcycle, the police official said, and investigators believe the gunman responded to the ad and lured the paratrooper into an isolated place March 10 to kill him.
Behavioral analysts are helping with the investigation, the police official said, and comparing the actions of the suspected perpetrator to those of serial killers and to those such as Norway's Breivik.
Wails and weeping filled the air Tuesday as the school honored the victims, including the rabbi who taught there. Several young men pressed their heads against the rear window a hearse in grief as it drove away.
The rabbi's widow covered her face and held her remaining child, a 1-year-old daughter, dressed in a bright pink dress. The widow's uncle, Marc Alloul, described how the girl woke up in the middle of the night after the killings, calling out, "Papa! Papa!"
Sarkozy, who has played up nationalist themes in his bid for a second term in upcoming elections, sought to stress the overall horror of the crime.
"The children are exactly like you," Sarkozy told junior high school students in Paris after joining them for the moment of silence. "That could have happened here."
He spoke at a public school across the street from a memorial to the French people who helped Jews during the Holocaust, when most of France was occupied by the Nazis.
Sarkozy also talked about the paratroopers killed in two attacks in Toulouse and nearby Montauban. The killer in those attacks also came and went on a motorbike and shot from the same weapon as the one used in Monday's school killing.
"Is it because they had come back from Afghanistan? Is it because they came from visible minorities? We don't know," Sarkozy asked about the paratroopers who were killed.
The French Defense Ministry has said the paratroopers didn't serve in Afghanistan, but one family says their son did. Other families have refused to comment on the topic.
France is holding a two-pronged presidential election on April 22, with a runoff expected May 6, in which issues about religious minorities and race have gained prominence. Sarkozy, a conservative, is known for his hard line against increased immigration.
Sarkozy also met Tuesday with members of France's Jewish and Muslim community. France has western Europe's largest population of both Jews -- about half a million -- and Muslims -- about 5 million.
The terror threat level was raised to scarlet across a swath of southern France -- the highest level since the four-point system was created in 2003.
In Toulouse, France's bustling fourth city, streets were emptier than normal. In one main square, Place Wilson, a dozen police officers were on patrol, some guarding the subway entrance.
In Paris, police bearing automatic weapons stood in front of Jewish schools.
"It's impossible not to imagine the worst, because it can happen to any child in France," said Mendy Sarfati, a father dropping his three children off at a Jewish school in Paris. "We want to put this drama behind us and for the French Republic to draw lessons from it."
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/03/20/interior-minister-says-french-school-killer-may-have-filmed-shootings/#ixzz1pfyQKJUa
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/03/21/french-police-investigating-school-shooting-raid-house-2-officers-injured/?test=latestnews
There's the latest on the TooLose killer.
Crazy guy. Sounds like an action movie, bursting out from the bathroom under heavy gunfire, falling/ out the window shot in the head. Apparently he was a complete sociopath & narcissist - like Breivik, but on the opposite end of civilization.
One of the news reports I heard said he was on a motorscooter which lessens him a bit. Guess it wouldn't be realistic thinking he was on a chopper, right? I haven't checked the news today to see if the standoff is over or not.
He's dead. A sniper shot him.
Report I just saw said he was holed up in his apt bathroom. Cops entered the apt, putting a camera underneath the door then he came out firing on the coppers then ran back into the bathroom, jumped out the 2nd floor window & was shot to death.He ended up with at least one bullet to the brain. Pretty fucking intense! He fired 30-32 rnds at police. There was footage you could hear the shooting.
This guy was a lunatic! Amazing ending & picturing him riding around the city on a motorcycle, stopping to shoot little kids point blank is fucking ridiculous. Praise be Allah. He deserves his virgins.
"Germany's New Breed of Neo-Nazis..."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17514394
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17690997
German Brother/Sister couple lose case/right to have a family together.
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/man-commits-10-felonies-9-hours-231718822.html
glad this happened in my home town. 10 felonies in 9 hours. must be a record.
edit: also he's got a gg allin look for him mug shot for extra points
Quote from: Si Clark on April 12, 2012, 08:42:22 PM
Quote from: GWNBF on April 12, 2012, 06:55:16 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/man-commits-10-felonies-9-hours-231718822.html
glad this happened in my home town. 10 felonies in 9 hours. must be a record.
edit: also he's got a gg allin look for him mug shot for extra points
I thought it would be 10 minor felonies but he got a lot done. Wiping his shit on the framed law degrees is quite amusing.
Real Talk.
Found his ass in a water cooling vat.
An honorable man.
It's an old case but as the excellent book 'People Who Eat Darkness' by Richard Lloyd Parry recently made it to paperback, here is a link to Joji Obara's defence website: http://lucies-case.to.cx/case1_e.html
the accused preferred non-Japanese bar hostesses who were drug-addicted, punk women (with a mean personality), known as "bitches"
For Finnish readers:
http://www.iltalehti.fi/uutiset/2012041815464058_uu.shtml
http://pastebin.com/2vg8pAzN
Not very surprising that media hides the fact that the rapists are muslim scum. Someone from Hommaforum ordered the statement from the district court.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/africa/south-african-police-find-girl-arrest-suspects-after-video-circulates-of-her-being-raped/2012/04/18/gIQADx0kQT_story.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/africa/south-african-police-find-girl-arrest-suspects-after-video-circulates-of-her-being-raped/2012/04/18/gIQADx0kQT_story.html)
"When a 17-year-old girl said to have the mental capacity of a 5-year-old was reported missing four weeks ago in the sprawling South African township of Soweto, police distributed her photo and asked neighborhood residents for help.
Then a video emerged of seven men and boys raping the girl. Within a day of media alerting them to the video, police said, they on Wednesday found the girl in a house across Soweto from her home. Eight men and boys were arrested on charges of kidnapping and rape."
http://youtu.be/iyfu_mU-dmo
Quote from: Vigilante Ecstasy on April 19, 2012, 01:03:14 AM
For Finnish readers:
http://www.iltalehti.fi/uutiset/2012041815464058_uu.shtml
http://pastebin.com/2vg8pAzN
Not very surprising that media hides the fact that the rapists are muslim scum. Someone from Hommaforum ordered the statement from the district court.
They definately gave her a hard lesson of life the GG Allin way. Maybe after this she won't be so trustful of unknown people.
Sometimes I wish skinivalkoinen suomi would make a strong comeback to the streets of Helsinki.
Well they certainly tried last week but only ended up shooting each other.
I must have missed the news.
http://shine.yahoo.com/team-mom/stuart-chaifetz-secretly-tapes-autistic-son-school-discovers-220500111.html
http://takimag.com/article/south_africas_rape_culture_hannes_wessels#axzz1tBCdIhde
Rape is committed in Africa?!?
Ariz. border militia leader kills 3 adults, infant and self:
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2012/05/5-dead-in-shooting-near-phoenix/1?csp=34news#.T6HpuNXLLfU
Quote from: davenpdx on May 03, 2012, 05:18:01 AM
Ariz. border militia leader kills 3 adults, infant and self:
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2012/05/5-dead-in-shooting-near-phoenix/1?csp=34news#.T6HpuNXLLfU
There's an interesting conspiracy nut slant on this at http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1856214/pg1
this caught my eye on the newsfeed today.
"A 22-year-old Saint Louis, Mo. woman was given two life sentences on Tuesday after being found guilty of allowing a 49-year-old man to rape her 5-month-old daughter in 2009. According to St. Louis Today, Tessa L. Vanvlerah was charged with first-degree statutory rape and sodomy, as well as incest and child pornography. Vanvlerah met California professor Kenneth M. Kyle online, where she agreed to his sexual fantasies. Her lawyers tried to get her off by having a doctor testify that she suffered from a dependent-personality disorder. Dr. Brooke Kraushaar argued that Vanvlerah knew what Kyle wanted was wrong, but participated anyway out of fear of rejection. She also allowed him to choke, burn and urinate on her. Investigators found Kyle had visited Vanvlerah four times in five months, each time initiating the sex acts with the 5-month-old and her mother at various hotels. They also found hundreds of pornographic images on his computer" - Dailycaller
It just gets better:
Syyttäjien rajut väitteet: Auer sekaantunut saatananpalvontaan
"Rituaaleja verellä ja tuhkalla"
http://www.iltalehti.fi/uutiset/2012050815544597_uu.shtml
today the sun is full of amazing stuff
a new Asian sex ring, with impressive title
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4305385/47-victims-of-Asian-sex-monsters-who-targeted-white-girls.html
war criminals in uk living on social welfare
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4305299/200-war-criminals-on-the-loose-in-Britain.html
and last but not least a case that is making the news here in Switzerland
Gentlemen let me introduce you to the almighty Hans Ulrich Rudel.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4304274/Hans-Rudel-advertised-for-cannibals-to-eat-family.html
I have seen pictures of him in action as a slavemaster
Watching a documentary about the killing of the citizens of McCarthy Alaska by an enviromentalist trying to disrupt the pipeline. At the time (1983), there were less than a dozen people in the entire area (docu seems to think there were 7 in all). 6 were killed, one shot but taken to the hospital.
http://murderpedia.org/male.H/h/hastings-louis.htm
"the End of the Road" looks to be all the same info that's in the docu I'm watching...
Someone give Tiny Tove a reward for three excellant links. Sadistic politican, war criminals, & a sex ring. Can't beat that with a bag of hammers!
the wrong carlos
history of a miscarriage of justice
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/may/15/carlos-texas-innocent-man-death
texas death row prisoners interactive
-anybody you know mr bitewerks? - http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/interactive/2011/sep/15/texas-death-row-prisoners
"FBI Agent Who Investigated Unabomber Arrested On Child Pornography Charges"
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/05/fbi_agent_who_investigated_unabomber_oklahoma_city_bombings_arrested_for_child_pornography.php
http://www.columbinegame.com/
Quote from: davenpdx on May 15, 2012, 10:28:09 PM
"FBI Agent Who Investigated Unabomber Arrested On Child Pornography Charges"
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/05/fbi_agent_who_investigated_unabomber_oklahoma_city_bombings_arrested_for_child_pornography.php
"All it takes is one slip up to create a whole life style." It's not a huge surprise to think that someone who investigates a form of pornography, especially those who do it daily as their job, would have a higher chance to possibly like it. Most porn won't change the stuff you are into unless you already have some deviant ideas and I think something that is as visceral as |<p has a higher chance to switch something off in your head as well.
Briton arrested with roasted human foetuses for use in black magic ritual
A British man has been arrested in Thailand after being found with six foetuses that had been roasted and covered in gold leaf as part of a black magic spirit ritual.
Telegraph.co.uk/News (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/thailand/9274106/Briton-arrested-with-roasted-human-foetuses-for-use-in-black-magic-ritual.html)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/may/22/eugene-terreblanche-murder-farmworker-guilty
vigilantes in hk
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/05/23/us-china-police-abuse-idUSBRE84M07Y20120523
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/dutch-court-sentences-preschool-pedophile-to-18-years-plus-psychiatric-treatment/2012/05/21/gIQA7JoteU_story.html
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/anti-paedophile-vigilante-killer-may-never-be-released-843903
Belgium, missing girl strangled, cut up & hidden in the freezer,
http://www.deredactie.be/cm/vrtnieuws.english/news/120523_Missing_girl_body (http://www.deredactie.be/cm/vrtnieuws.english/news/120523_Missing_girl_body)
what's with the shooting in Finland ?
Some guy was brutally murdered some blocks away from here, supposedly by his wife who's under arrest but deny it.
Nothingisttrue facing 30 years in prison under the Dangerous Offender statute.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2012/05/state_plans_to_argue_a_portlan.html (http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2012/05/state_plans_to_argue_a_portlan.html)
http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/05/26/2818832/naked-man-shot-killed-on-macarthur.html
http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/05/27/2819885/investigation-continues-into.html
One-man cannibal holocaust in Miami.
he is a zombie
Was a zombie. Or a werewolf.
Quote from: vlai44 on May 27, 2012, 12:12:12 AM
Nothingisttrue facing 30 years in prison under the Dangerous Offender statute.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2012/05/state_plans_to_argue_a_portlan.html (http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2012/05/state_plans_to_argue_a_portlan.html)
Quotefirst-degree sodomy
Didn't know there was different degrees.
A nice old story about Mr Nonneman is at http://feds-are-speds.livejournal.com/1416.html#comments
Barely heard of this Nonneman guy before now, never heard his music, obviously he sounds like someone I'm glad I don't know. Mykel Board quoted for MRR magazine the reports made to the judge from an earlier prison stint:
"Samples of Nonneman's work under the name "Nothingistrue" include the following:
The Passion of Misanthropy
Cunt Envy
Right to Kill
Dead Little Girls
Once You've Killed Someone Life's Shit
it appears he (Kyle) subscribes to a Nihilist philosophy....Typically Nihilists reject social, legal, moral and religious norms. His thoughts and beliefs are clearly spelled out in his writing, music and posts on his MySpace page."
Seems like the guy was gunning to be the GG Allin of PE with all the empty stupidity that implies. Seems also that authorities have singled him out for special treatment because of this. Fuck him, he sounds like a dick, but interesting to see how subcultures can maybe have a bad impact on someone who already had problems in his life and personality.
A more dramatic case from the world of punk in the UK: http://www.murderuk.com/cannibal_david_halker.html - the other tattoo was of course 'Subhumans', misreported everywhere in the media.
Kyle was at one or more gigs when Grunt/Control/Slogun/Taint, etc performed on the East Coast 6 years ago (or roundabout). I don't remember meeting him but he was at the Brooklyn gig.
http://www.bestgore.com/beheading/1-lunatic-1-ice-pick-video/
Not sure if this is something new or everyone but me has seen it until today...
follow-up on who the 1-lunatic may be:
http://www.bestgore.com/murder/luka-magnotta-perpetrator-behind-1-lunatic-1-ice-pick/
Meanwhile in Canada
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/may/30/human-foot-canada-conservative-party
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1282647/US-cage-fighter-Jarrod-Wyatt-rips-training-partner-Taylor-Powells-heart.html (cross posted in mma thread)
Quote from: tiny_tove on May 30, 2012, 10:57:52 AM
Meanwhile in Canada
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/may/30/human-foot-canada-conservative-party
some updates on that one...this has all the makings of a hollywood classic ha ha....pornstars, ex-girlfriend is a serial killer..etc....
http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/05/31/body-parts-killer-note/
http://www.iol.co.za/news/world/hunt-for-porn-star-after-body-parts-found-1.1308655
NIT website hosted on FA server is still up, that's kinda funny
Quote from: theotherjohn on May 31, 2012, 03:57:42 PM
Quote from: locustfurnace on May 31, 2012, 11:01:17 AM
Quote from: tiny_tove on May 30, 2012, 10:57:52 AM
Meanwhile in Canada
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/may/30/human-foot-canada-conservative-party
some updates on that one...this has all the makings of a hollywood classic ha ha....pornstars, ex-girlfriend is a serial killer..etc....
http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/05/31/body-parts-killer-note/
http://www.iol.co.za/news/world/hunt-for-porn-star-after-body-parts-found-1.1308655
So this is now linked up with the video posted on BestGore that bitewerks shared earlier? Holy shit.
ha, fuck, didn't click with me that the two were related....
Cut n pasted from the invite-only documentingreality forum, where the video apparently surfaced before BG:
""There are rumors that there are two more video. One of him with his aunt Andrea Yourkin Loschiavo who died in 2010 mysteriously of pills being forced down her throat ( or drugged). Someone said she was laying on a pink sofa dead while Luka was performing oral sex on her????? Did he kill her because she found out about his crimes? And apparently another video where he kills a homeless man? I cant believe all this?"
This was posted by someone who joined the forum a couple of days ago...... Luka has been making new accounts to promote his "work", and then shutting them down quickly. Similar posts with the same females name were thrown up in at least 3 different places that I saw, including a you tube comment that I'm 99% sure was by Luka.
It could either be a troll, or a preview..... I tried searching the females name, but nothing usable came up....... I saw in other places though that the Woman lived in Russia, and that Luka's Father is from Russia, which could explain a lot.
Its a VERY specific name though, doesn't really sound random."
One of his youtube accounts: http://www.youtube.com/user/red66night
His straight porn: http://www.hardsextube.com/video/652890/Teen%20Boy%20Bangs%20Milf
Yet more fucked up stuff: http://www.xtube.com/community/blog.php?id=MTk2ODg=
EDIT: OK, from what I can tell the video first appeared on theync.com (what a surprise, not) on 26th May but there were 'viral marketing' style hints and teasers from Magnotta's numerous sites and sockpuppets from the 15th onwards -see http://i.imgur.com/BJjLg.png and 'anonymousgirl33' on dailymotion. A shocker for me is the very recent confirmation from Canadian cops that he really has been in a relationship with Karla Homolka. She's living in the Bahamas now I believe and will no doubt be getting a visit. Oh the drama.
Luka's most recent youtube comment just eleven hours ago, almost certainly him: "I'd like to give my thanks to the uploader, his work, and the original six or seven members who began investigating this in winter of 2010, skipping christmas with family to work. Thank you for all of your hard work. You know who you are. I hope all of your work helps in some small way to get an evil bastard off the street. Thank you. And thanks to alexisvaloranreich" - on http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msugdAqGj_0&feature=related - as 'Evil Bastard'.
Quote from: Peterson on May 31, 2012, 10:54:59 PM
More details to follow, but an ex-coworker of mine (not someone I am friends with) tried (and failed) to stab a guy to death in Tennessee yesterday afternoon. His girlfriend and he were on some sort of drug, or possibly drunk, and some middle-aged couple was jogging by, and an altercation started, don't know how. It ended up with the middle-aged man getting more than 14 stabwounds, most of which were to the throat and stomach area. The guy, Marcus Carillo, is now in custody, as well as his broad, Rachel Marcinek. They are ages 30 and 20 respectively, Mr. Carillo having an extensive prison history. The man he attacked is currently in critical condition at a hospital nearby.
Edit: this now gives me the street cred I need to make a C10 ltd. 5 about this subject!!! :P
only if you make it around 14 tracks. one per stab wound!
I watched a docu about kids who kill out of hatred so basically hate crimes: one case was a Mexican beaten to death in the U.S.;another was a goth couple beaten to death in the U.K.- one of the teens jumped up n' down with both feet on the girl's face; in France, kids beat a homeless man with 2x4's then set him on fire, and finally, a homosexual was beaten to death in Toronto Canada. All featured silly reinactments but the UK goth case has some awful animation mixed with the actor reinactments.
Saw another docu about kid/teen killers that had a case from the mid-1950s in the midwest of the U.S., this teen male killed 3 (I think) young girls. Each murder became more brutal including shoving treelimbs up inside of one girl & gutting another (or that was done to the same victim). All were heavily beaten and stomped on.
I think Crumer should be cut a break. He's got all sorts of issues: broke him arm, moved a dozen times, couldn't flip the tapes over in the recording deck, the post office was one block east while he was one block west, his dog died, someone received surgery.....
Quote from: Peterson on May 31, 2012, 10:54:59 PM
Edit: this now gives me the street cred I need to make a C10 ltd. 5 about this subject!!! :P
Heh, well you get to a certain age and you know lots of real-life trouble. I've known one murder victim, innumerable suicides, at least one guy doing serious time for violent crimes.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on May 31, 2012, 11:12:24 PM
another was a goth couple beaten to death in the U.K.- one of the teens jumped up n' down with both feet on the girl's face
Sophie Lancaster. A fucking horrible case. I used to enjoy playing shows in Bacup but when that happened the town was spoiled for me a little.
Quote from: KMusselman on May 31, 2012, 11:05:53 PM
Who is Rocco Magnotta?
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/rocco-magnotta-165417986.html
The reporting is quickly getting less reliable and more sensational on this with fiction and speculation being stated as fact. One of the most bizarre cases ever, very 2012. Expect extensive "Luka was an MK Ultra victim" shit soon.
Quote from: Si Clark on June 01, 2012, 12:22:41 AM
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on May 31, 2012, 11:12:24 PM
Saw another docu about kid/teen killers that had a case from the mid-1950s in the midwest of the U.S., this teen male killed 3 (I think) young girls. Each murder became more brutal including shoving treelimbs up inside of one girl & gutting another (or that was done to the same victim). All were heavily beaten and stomped on.
Do you know the name of this documentary?
KILLER KIDS-
http://www.biography.com/tv/killer-kids
i just watched the luka ice pick video that's fucking gross !
it happened 1h from where i live they talk about him a lots on the local news
one police think he is still in canada even maybe in montreal will see ...
rocco magnotta is a killer name, and would sound sleazy/fake for Italian standard.
The Sun has a good exclusive story on Luka today (which could well be invented bullshit knowing their standards):
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4349654/Cannibal-on-run-after-chopping-up-man-warned-The-Sun-I-cant-stop-killing.html
Aesthetically speaking it would be better if he'd signed the email Keith Bennett. True Faith, and Happy Xmas (War Is Over) which was used in his previous kitten vacuuming film (not Little Drummer Boy as The Sun suggests, although I'll admit I don't search the web for all the kitten snuff he may have made) suggest real refinement of cruelty.
It's mindblowing, the most intense crime case since Joseph Duncan.
totally agree... there are so many ingredients to write an instant book
http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/06/01/police-name-murder-victim-reveal-luka-rocco-magnotta-could-have-already-returned-to-canada/
From the link: (note the national post's embarrassing use of the (non-)word supremest!)
Magnotta linked to white supremest site
A year before he became the target of an international manhunt for an alleged killing and dismemberment, Luka Rocco Magnotta was being hailed as a hero of free speech on a U.S. white nationalist website.
A May 27, 2011 post on Stormfront.org refers to Mr. Magnotta as "an open white supremacist" and claims he was being forced to flee Canada and return to Russia because of "his views on white supremacy."
The post, by a forum member named reddragon1, said Magnotta "is of Russian/Italian heritage," was born in Tolyatti, Russia, moved to Canada at age five and went to the United States to work in modeling and adult entertainment.
"However, after he published his website supporting the freeze on immigration to America and Canada, he was bombarded with hate mail and his website was removed," the post read. "His websites were frequently targeted and removed."
It quoted Mr. Magnotta's website as lamenting that "blacks get their own countries, Chinese get their own countries ... however if white people want their own countries then we are denied that right."
A photo of a shirtless Mr. Magnotta accompanied the post, which has now been taken down. A second and final post by reddragon1 the following day made derogatory comments about Jews. Stormfront is run by former Ku Klux Klan leader Don Black.
The blog Anti-Racist Canada, which found the Stormfront posts, reported Thursday that it would be sending them "to the appropriate authorities" and said it suspected reddragon1 to be Mr. Magnotta himself.
Mr. Magnotta appeared again on Stormfront in September, when a member wrote that "Luka Magnotta, he wrote a lot of very interesting articles on multiculturalism. I for one am extremely happy that he is courageous enough to write the things he does, knowing full well he will receive death threats. ... He says he is not advocating killing different races, he simply does not want to communicate, work or associate with different races."
Abbee Corb, an analyst with the Hate Crimes Extremism and Investigative Team, which advises police services in Ontario, said Stormfront "has become a social networking site and prominent voice in the right-wing white supremacist community.
"Prominent Canadian right winger Paul Fromm, hosts his radio show on the Stormfront network. Stormfront has a great deal of Canadian and international content. Its users can post and create content promoting events, recruiting and providing commentary on global events."
Stewart Bell
http://www.luka-magnotta.net/cyber-stalking.html and http://www.anorak.co.uk/270417/strange-but-true/luka-magnotta-is-the-youtube-kitten-killer.html/ (comments especially) for the faint possibility that this is all some kind of insane frame-up on the guy.
Initially I also thought Dennis Cooper, but now it seems more like Brett Easton Ellis 'Glamorama'.
http://boingboing.net/2012/06/01/accused-maryland-cannibal-murd.html
Found an article about the orig video with the cat dressed in Santa hat. It was originally posted a year or more back & has 'been removed from the internet'. I think it said it was first posted on a site called Flix by someone who may have been in the UK. Sounds like the same thing- I think one of HongKong's links had a pic of the cat in Santa hat?
http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/06/01/luka-rocco-magnotta-disappearance/
This article claims he had converted to scientology. Is scientology an MK-ULTRA front group?
2007 sympathetic story on him - http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2007/09/14/4495619-sun.html
And what the FUCK are these old and probably self-created ones: http://mafiarussian.hubpages.com/hub/Luka-Magnotta-Russian-Mafia
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SC5hkJGrCBg - can any Russian speakers tell what's being said in the video?
Joseph Duncan case also had the Russian connection due to 'Panda Conspiracy' blogger who befriended The Fifth Nail, all that mysterious creepy 'I Am Your Sasha' stuff.
Scientology link is fairly mindblowing if true but I think new reporters are probably outright making stuff up now. How can this story be any better anyway?
Quotecan any Russian speakers tell what's being said in the video?
it's mostly just swearing and nothing makes any sense.
-Let's go... laughing, swearing... what are you looking at... laughing, swearing, messing around etc etc.
http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2012/05/31/matt-gurney-the-body-parts-case-and-miami-zombie-are-horror-films-made-real/
Interesting comments on Luka & Rudy, bad boys of May 2012, and even more the public interest in them (including this topic, haha) and the relations of the events to popular culture. Yes, the "too good to be true"- nature of Luka reeks of Bret Easton Ellis hyperbole.
in high contrast to all the vile true crime above, here's 'typical' stuff from Belgium:
http://www.deredactie.be/cm/vrtnieuws.english/news/120601_Molem (http://www.deredactie.be/cm/vrtnieuws.english/news/120601_Molem)
Sharia4Belgium claims she was 'almost stripped naked by 5 cops and fell' .....quite a fall if break a cop's nose doing it :-)
Followed by some riots against the police for the 'racist action' etc etc ....one big déjà vue.....
Quote from: P-K on June 03, 2012, 01:33:17 PM
in high contrast to all the vile true crime above, here's 'typical' stuff from Belgium:
http://www.deredactie.be/cm/vrtnieuws.english/news/120601_Molem (http://www.deredactie.be/cm/vrtnieuws.english/news/120601_Molem)
Sharia4Belgium claims she was 'almost stripped naked by 5 cops and fell' .....quite a fall if break a cop's nose doing it :-)
Followed by some riots against the police for the 'racist action' etc etc ....one big déjà vue.....
From a libertarian perspective this just shows how some laws create worse problems than they solve. In the UK niqab and burka aren't illegal, a minority of muslim women choose to wear them (or are made to by their crazy husbands), nothing worse happens usually than those women being looked at by others (including majority of muslims) with pity and disgust.
Meanwhile the conspiracy theory has begun with Luka Magnotta - http://www.abeldanger.net/2012/06/mcconnell-claims-magnotta-hired-to-make.html
So, I never even thought about Basic Instinct...
http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/06/03/luka-rocco-magnotta-murder-case-has-disturbing-resemblance-to-hollywood-thriller-basic-instinct/
...but I guess it seems that he was emulating the opening scene.
http://www.torontosun.com/2012/06/01/new-youtube-video-sounds-like-magnotta-expert
It's pretty obvious that he's been commenting on videos he posted so I'd rather think that it's 100% sure to be him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ew21K3J3JOQ
edit :I guess there's some weird random stuff on this channel, i don't know now...
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCc37CtjNQHaX1o10AJ0Uoiw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSYsu7SsTD0
Interview with Luka on Naked News from 2007.
Quote from: HongKongGoolagong on June 03, 2012, 04:34:11 PM
Meanwhile the conspiracy theory has begun with Luka Magnotta - http://www.abeldanger.net/2012/06/mcconnell-claims-magnotta-hired-to-make.html
fucking hilarious!!!!
Breaking news: Magnotta arrested in Berlin - http://www.lefigaro.fr/flash-actu/2012/06/04/97001-20120604FILWWW00578-luka-magnotta-aurait-ete-arrete-a-berlin.php
Back to the usual shit now until trial. Some might put this story down as a woman's right to choose rather than true crime, and I'm sure one or two sick fucks might even put it in the sexual curiosities thread. Whatever, it's an all-time great headline: http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/doctors-in-beed-feed-aborted-female-foetuses-to-dogs/1/189919.html
Ah, I have seen that python video that guy made. "Kittie-Porn", heh. I want to see the actual murder video that is circulating, it wasn't on uncoverreality or The YNC, maybe I can find it on the deep... if anyone runs into it please link it!
I was hoping he would last longer.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-18325047
Canada murder suspect Luka Magnotta held in Berlin
More cannibalism: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2153536/Engineering-student-killed-ate-roommate-ranted-mass-human-sacrifices-Facebook-posted-photo-warpaint-online.html
Perhaps already posted.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2152519/Rudy-Eugene-Last-words-Miami-cannibal-girlfriend-attack-Ronald-Poppo.html
Of course it was a Voodoo attack!
Okay voodoo zombie attacks? I think I saw a documentary about this. We're doomed. :P
(http://www.grindhousedatabase.com/images/thumb/Zombie1.jpg/350px-Zombie1.jpg)
A rather random development.
http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/06/05/luka-rocco-magnotta-vancouver/
Ah finally found that video, and yea I have seen it. People give such stupid names to gore videos now. For the curious it is known as "1 Lunatic 1 Ice Pick". It's been removed from most sites only 1 working that I know of.
Quote from: RyanWreck on June 06, 2012, 08:50:16 AM
Ah finally found that video, and yea I have seen it. People give such stupid names to gore videos now. For the curious it is known as "1 Lunatic 1 Ice Pick". It's been removed from most sites only 1 working that I know of.
It will be online forever now, someone even uploaded it to youtube in full a few days ago. Incidentally documentingreality's owner has an interesting history: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nowthatsfuckedup.com
Quote from: Jordan on June 06, 2012, 07:05:30 AM
A rather random development.
http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/06/05/luka-rocco-magnotta-vancouver/
I think the article linked within it, http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/06/05/best-gore-website-will-most-likely-be-charged-for-graphic-dismemberment-video-police-say/, is more interesting, particularly for quotes like this:
While Zvulony said he believes not all murderous content should be taken off the Internet — for example, he would not remove depictions of governments massacring their own citizens, as happened recently in Syria — the video attributed to Magnotta, he argued, crosses a line.
"We don't want to sanitize reality. We want to have access to the truth. Except at some point, that unsanitized truth becomes really harmful to society," he said.Which to me promotes an interesting discussion (which granted, has been done to death) about desensitization and control and the accountability of the media and authorities. Funny that documenting genocide in a far away land is on the right side of acceptability but the most high profile (of 2012 so far) and geographically relevant story of first degree murder is too much in all its "gory glory".
Quote from: martialgodmask on June 06, 2012, 02:57:28 PM
Quote from: Jordan on June 06, 2012, 07:05:30 AM
A rather random development.
http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/06/05/luka-rocco-magnotta-vancouver/
I think the article linked within it, http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/06/05/best-gore-website-will-most-likely-be-charged-for-graphic-dismemberment-video-police-say/, is more interesting, particularly for quotes like this:
While Zvulony said he believes not all murderous content should be taken off the Internet — for example, he would not remove depictions of governments massacring their own citizens, as happened recently in Syria — the video attributed to Magnotta, he argued, crosses a line.
"We don't want to sanitize reality. We want to have access to the truth. Except at some point, that unsanitized truth becomes really harmful to society," he said.
Which to me promotes an interesting discussion (which granted, has been done to death) about desensitization and control and the accountability of the media and authorities. Funny that documenting genocide in a far away land is on the right side of acceptability but the most high profile (of 2012 so far) and geographically relevant story of first degree murder is too much in all its "gory glory".
Further to this, the article displays a partially obscured still *supposedly from the video (*I've not seen it so cannot verify directly) which to me raises more questions in itself.
Quote from: HongKongGoolagong on June 06, 2012, 02:12:43 PM
It will be online forever now, someone even uploaded it to youtube in full a few days ago.
Of course. The "internet is forever". I should have clarified that I was talking more about easy to find streaming sites. Here is a link to the only streaming video I know of that isn't on a share, FTP or torrent and I am sure this one won't last long considering it is imageshack's video hosting:
http://imageshack.us/clip/my-videos/651/video133801191571.mp4/
Quote from: theotherjohn]Yes, the screengrab is from the video. Watched it when bitewerks mentioned it with the sound turned off which probably added to the discomfort - I certainly don't think it would have been the same with it turned on given the added New Order soundtrack. One viewing was enough for me. Yes, it's awful to watch as this is/was an actual human being, yet it's oddly ridiculous too (I won't full out say "comical" although it's not too far a stretch of the imagination) as all the notorious stuff mentioned in the video appears to happen once he's dead.
It's really not a bad watch at all, however there are parts where you have to rewind and look again and say "wtf". A lot of it is more ridiculous than anything, i.e. the handjob part.
Lin Jun was seemingly quite an odd character judging from some of the reports coming out - search "midnight cannibalism train". Was this a consensual murder like Sharon Lopatka?
There are some interesting photos floating around purporting to show Luka in the Ukraine with a female accomplice to one of his cat killing movies.
Also saw an amazing b/w picture supposedly of Luka and Karla a few years ago. It does look like she looks now but may well have been a shop.
More body parts found headed for Vancouver elementary schools.
Quote from: martialgodmask on June 06, 2012, 02:57:28 PM
Quote from: Jordan on June 06, 2012, 07:05:30 AM
A rather random development.
http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/06/05/luka-rocco-magnotta-vancouver/
I think the article linked within it, http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/06/05/best-gore-website-will-most-likely-be-charged-for-graphic-dismemberment-video-police-say/, is more interesting, particularly for quotes like this:
While Zvulony said he believes not all murderous content should be taken off the Internet — for example, he would not remove depictions of governments massacring their own citizens, as happened recently in Syria — the video attributed to Magnotta, he argued, crosses a line.
"We don't want to sanitize reality. We want to have access to the truth. Except at some point, that unsanitized truth becomes really harmful to society," he said.
Which to me promotes an interesting discussion (which granted, has been done to death) about desensitization and control and the accountability of the media and authorities. Funny that documenting genocide in a far away land is on the right side of acceptability but the most high profile (of 2012 so far) and geographically relevant story of first degree murder is too much in all its "gory glory".
If BestGore are charged, I think I want to leave Canada. Maybe I'll try to get people on Facebook to make their status "I am Ernst Zundel" again because I'm such a Slack(tm)tavist but if that doesn't work I'm definitely leaving.
Still, I'm intrigued as to why he sent body parts to two elementary schools on the other side of the country. Can't wait for the trial.
HongKongGoolagong- Do you have a link to this alleged photo of Luka and Karla? Those names have a nice ring together.
Quote from: Jordan on June 06, 2012, 09:37:08 PM
HongKongGoolagong- Do you have a link to this alleged photo of Luka and Karla? Those names have a nice ring together.
http://i48.tinypic.com/334p8ip.jpg
Karla in 2008: https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/4xoeEh4i3skLrAj0vWiCkXYhuZZZEYJtVXZIcVFC9Tw
And here is an amazing resource put together by Magnotta using his cutelittlenemo1 persona: http://www.pearltrees.com/#/N-f=1_3906080&N-fa=3906080&N-p=30741259&N-play=0&N-s=1_3906080&N-u=1_465461 - the site is hard to navigate but has lots of information including titles for all his 'art projects' which doesn't appear in news reports. EDIT: that was actually his hunters, not himself for once. Archive of info on his older stuff is at http://www.abproject.org/docs/
Pretty sure that they are posing on the same bed as in the murder video. She's ugly as hell but she should have been in the video instead of that charlie.
The shadows look kind of funny I guess, but I'm not very familiar with the minutiae of photoshop forensics. I'd like for this to be true.
Quote from: RyanWreck on June 06, 2012, 09:45:43 PM
She's ugly as hell but she should have been in the video
I think her video-making days are behind her, how could she possibly follow up those hits. Lest we forget: http://mascaramurder.blogspot.com/2012/03/karla-homolka-and-fireside-chat.html
Quote from: theotherjohnYes, it's awful to watch as this is/was an actual human being, yet it's oddly ridiculous too (I won't full out say "comical" although it's not too far a stretch of the imagination) as all the notorious stuff mentioned in the video appears to happen once he's dead.
Quote from: RyanwreckIt's really not a bad watch at all, however there are parts where you have to rewind and look again and say "wtf". A lot of it is more ridiculous than anything, i.e. the handjob part.
Carl from Sharpwaist sent me the video, a worthy viewing experience. Quite a case.
Reminded me of this shit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NOhghUWZos
Doesn't surprise me that Canada would go after the website. Canada is like Germany- make a movie too realistic & they'll go after you:
http://www.dreadcentral.com/reviews/artcrime-2011
I was sent the "Art/Crime" docu but the dvd-r was cracked in half. Hopefully he'll send another sooner or later.
Here's a filmography:
2003 : Street Bait 996 : Luka
2003 : His First Huge Cock : Jimmy
2003 : His First Huge Cock 104 : Luka - http://juicytv.com/video/195760/his-first-huge-cock/luka-episode-104 if you must
2004 : Son of Posedon
2005 : BadPuppy.com : Luka
2006 : Adorable
2009 : Monster Cock Jocks 25
2010 : Daddy Mugs fucks Justin
More supposed Karla: http://www.abproject.org/gallery3/index.php/VBKK/P1000192-1431176188 - I doubt it's her or that they ever really met TBH.
"Street Bait 996" would be a great PE project name. He didn't start using 'Luka Magnotta' as a name until August 2006 so seems he took the name from his porn moniker.
Meanwhile in Miami
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jun/06/girlfriend-defends-miami-attacker-face
His gf looks like an actress.
Someone is spending a little too much time researching Luka...
"Daddy Mugs fucks Justin" is pretty funny. The titles make me think of 8mm films.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on June 07, 2012, 09:49:18 PM
Someone is spending a little too much time researching Luka...
Hey, I always thought about joining some of those true crime/web sleuths forums but all the moralists, perverts-in-denial and generally judgemental fuckers look too much hassle and irritation to deal with, even compared to specialolympics here.
Uploaded a rare Luka Moors Murders fetish video found on abproject archive to my youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQx5_YxQsZs - faint possibility it was actually made by the animal rights activists following him under names like hollywoodloveletters.
This whole Luka thing has been one of the most fascinating human interest stories as of late, at least for us Canadians. Too much is never enough. I don't know where you find all this stuff, but please keep it coming.
Though I thought the Russell Williams story was a lot of fun, especially seeing as how he was the queen's personal pilot for a time. The pictures of him in women's underwear are hilarious contrasted to the photos of him and the queen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRgRXgi5j2w
Still, he looks like a sissy compared to Luka, which is odd because he's a big burly army guy with a cop/Henry Rollins type jaw and Luka is diminutive and effeminate.
Robert "Willie" Pickton had some funny lines ("Pickton spoke in difficult-to-understand sentences, and said odd things, like "I'm mind-baffling," and "It's nice to have nose hair" while picking his nose. The Crown argued the jury could believe Pickton's confessions because prosecutors proved at least one of the stories he told to police was accurate: that two small pigs were let loose in the Downtown Eastside on Christmas Eve 1997. Pickton bragged about police chasing after his pigs, and said in a sing-song voice: " 'Twas the night before Christmas and all through the streets not a soul to be found except two little pigs and two working girls." I think once when talking about letting the pigs loose and the subsequent attempts by the police to capture them he said something like "It's hilarious to watch the pigs chasing some pigs.") but nothing as mind-blowing as any of the Luka stuff.
Luka is a national treasure, but I'm glad he's caught because I like kittens.
The Williams/Bernado connection is pretty fascinating. I have plenty of Ontario relatives, they are all nuts and dysfunctional as fuck.
The Pickton registered charity name "Piggy Palace Good Times Society" is kind of unforgettable. A nice resource site on Vancouver's missing downtown eastside hookers is at http://www.missingpeople.net/home.html Also see the highly entertaining and bizarre Abel Danger conspiraloon site I linked above for much lurid speculation.
There's a joke about how a Canadian road movie would have as the exciting plot twist someone making a turn without indicating, but when it comes to bizarre crime Canada is up there with Russia.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/jun/07/safe-havens-bullied-teenagers
Friendly gettoes for nerds
It's like fish in a barrel for bullies.
I always thought that bullying was just a part of growing up. You make fun of some people, haze the new kids, and all that good stuff. I could see bullying as maybe even helping in the long run. Learn how to stick up for yourself, defend yourself, make friends and find out why you are a target and then stop being one. Kids are just gigantic pussies now.
Pickton is waaaaay more interesting than Luka! I use to have a huge stack of Van.BC articles on Pickton & his victims, some with handwritten notes from a fellow who was knew some of the victims. Little stories about what they were like as pro's & what kind of drugs they preferred. I haven't kept up but it seems like by now there would be some books on the case. If it wasn't for BC, Canada would be completely worthless- along with the crime, they've got extreme metal & BC is a mountain biking paradise!
I was joking about the research. Keep it up, it's entertaining & seems weird b/c I have no clue where I would even begin to look for his filmography!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-18339088
musical parody of "The Wire" approved by creator.
Quote from: HongKongGoolagong on June 08, 2012, 06:12:04 AM
The Williams/Bernado connection is pretty fascinating. I have plenty of Ontario relatives, they are all nuts and dysfunctional as fuck.
The Pickton registered charity name "Piggy Palace Good Times Society" is kind of unforgettable. A nice resource site on Vancouver's missing downtown eastside hookers is at http://www.missingpeople.net/home.html Also see the highly entertaining and bizarre Abel Danger conspiraloon site I linked above for much lurid speculation.
There's a joke about how a Canadian road movie would have as the exciting plot twist someone making a turn without indicating, but when it comes to bizarre crime Canada is up there with Russia.
I live in Ontario and I'm completely normal. Actually, I'm from the middle of nowhere in Northern Ontario. A guy I grew up with whose aunt used to bail him out on his coke debts stabbed her like a hundred times and fucked her corpse a lot. I'm so from the middle of nowhere I can't even find a story about it on the internet. Recently my aunt tried to drug her son's baby mother and torch her house, but was unsuccessful. It made national news though because she's a cop.
Highway 61 is an okay Canadian road movie.
Anyway, back to Luka:
http://www.thespec.com/news/canada/article/739556--is-luka-magnotta-l-a-s-dismemberment-killer
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on June 08, 2012, 08:28:39 PM
Pickton is waaaaay more interesting than Luka! I use to have a huge stack of Van.BC articles on Pickton & his victims, some with handwritten notes from a fellow who was knew some of the victims. Little stories about what they were like as pro's & what kind of drugs they preferred. I haven't kept up but it seems like by now there would be some books on the case. If it wasn't for BC, Canada would be completely worthless- along with the crime, they've got extreme metal & BC is a mountain biking paradise!
I was joking about the research. Keep it up, it's entertaining & seems weird b/c I have no clue where I would even begin to look for his filmography!
Clifford Olson said some pretty hilarious stuff as well, unfortunately he passed away recently.
BC is filled with stinking hippies, and Pickton never sent any body parts to the Government.
Still, Canada is almost completely worthless, although I really like the wilderness around where I grew up.
What a pair of Canadian scumbags Michael Rafferty and Terri-Lynne McClintic are. I don't often get upset with reading details of true crime stories but some of their behaviour was really sickening. Everyone's favourite Goth 12-year old 'Runaway Devil' Jasmine Richardson was rather more appealing. Most of my Canadian relatives are in Hamilton. They all seem to be alcoholics, get divorced every year and go to the mall a lot.
I got the Luka filmography from his French wikipedia page, someone in turn trawled the internet adult film database for that - journalists have picked up on his Vancouver connection for the 'Street Bait' film. Wondered if he'd picked the name in allusion to the Suzanne Vega song about an abused child but seems it was just intended to imply some kind of eastern European street boy vibe for gay porn viewers. Seems he did enjoy Lady Gaga's 'I Like It Rough' though - http://www.abproject.org/gallery3/index.php/VBKK/1294467867135 - how much funnier than True Faith that song would have been for the soundtrack of his directorial triumph Icepick.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9dPr9N0vAo has some good research. His mother's myspace with photos of them having a rather strained looking day out is still around. There are craigslist ads still online from a few weeks ago which were probably by him. I wish I'd saved everything I'd found, like the Duncan case a lot of it will disappear and be forgotten. The pearltrees link has been wildly expanded recently and is probably the best resource around.
Some titles of his other films, the animal torture ones, include "Titon's Last Breath', 'Spartacus' Bath', 'Apollo's Bath' and '1 Cat 1 Christmas'. What a sick fuck.
The forum linked from that LukaLeaks video seems interesting, although it says that the video debuted in the deep web on the 20th, and I thought the murder happened on the 25th or thereabouts.
Rafferty and McClintic were definitely just white trash scumbags and not particularly interesting, although during Rafferty's trial recently it was funny how McClintic was trying to put everything on Rafferty and saying she was just a confused drug addict although she was a documented history of homicidal ideation that makes it pretty obvious that she was hot to kill. It's fucked that the cops searched his laptop without a warrant despite a recent ruling that was quite public that said a computer is like a house and the police need a separate search warrant to search a computer found in a warranted search on a home. He had extremely violent child pornography but that wasn't admissible in court.
I lived in Alberta during the Richardson/Steinke thing and all the weird old Albertans I worked with found my interest in her case to be rather alarming or something.
I lived in Hamilton for a while and I hated it.
LUKA LOVED SATAN: http://luka-magnotta-magnotta-luka.blogspot.ca/2011/04/nine-satanic-statements-sins-and-rules.html
I used to buy meth at Remington's Men Of Steel, the strip club where Luka worked, around the time that he worked there apparently. I wonder if I ever crossed his path?
I have a couple of books on Clifford Olsen. Seems like one of them is about conspiracies or cover-up's involving the police or something?
I think you're talking about Where Shadows Linger maybe? That book is mostly about the $100,000 paid to Olson's wife in exchange for the location of the bodies. I like how during his parole hearing a few years ago he said that he gave the United States information about 9/11 and in exchange they had granted him clemency so the parole hearing had no jurisdiction over him.
A couple of years ago he sent one of his Old Age Security pension cheques to a Sun reporter and asked him to forward it to Prime Minister Stephen Harper's reelection campaign.
Funny guy.
http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/Body+parts+case+suspect+Luka+Rocco+Magnotta+girlfriend+talks+about+dark+romance+with+video/6760077/story.html
http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/06/09/luka-rocco-magnotta-look-alike-finds-unwanted-attention-frustrating/
http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2012/06/08/luka-rocco-magnotta-orhan-s/
http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/06/07/luka-rocco-magnotta-1-lunatic-1-ice-pick-jun-lin/
Obscure Luka detective work: http://www.crackyhouse.com/board/kareha.pl/1338940184/ - the tinychat conversations while he was on the run are extremely oblique. And anonymous message boards are extremely unreliable sources.
I managed to convince myself that it wasn't him in the kitten videos yesterday through overthinking all this. The girl who probably does appear with him in the python clip is now posting on documentingreality and talking in PMs to one of my bandmates. It's insane! I don't know if anyone knows the HaLeigh Cummings case but it's starting to remind me of it in that everyone else as well as Luka seems to be fucking lying, the truth is buried already. Photoshops, fake postings, lies from cops and media outlets, trolls and animal activists. He'll be medicated and given the lone nut treatment in court.
Weird shit continues: http://marie-laure-bessege-montreal-missing.blogspot.co.uk/
Popo, the zombie attack survivor
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4370170/Man-who-had-face-eaten-by-drug-crazed-zombie-pictured.html
Online child abuse images 'becoming more extreme, sadistic and violent'
Sheer number of images and limited resources makes identifying new abuse victims difficult, according to new study
Alexandra Topping
guardian.co.uk, Thursday 14 June 2012 00.05 BST
Online child abuse images are becoming "more extreme, sadistic and violent", with the vast number of images and pressure on resources making identifying new victims increasingly difficult, according to a study from the Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre (CEOP).
"The children in these images are getting younger and the offences committed against them are getting more serious and extreme," said Andy Baker, deputy chief executive of the CEOP Centre. "Not only has a child been abused when these images were taken but they are being abused again each time that image is viewed."
There was a correlation between viewing child abuse images and committing child sexual abuse - with 55% of those who had viewed images likely to go on to physically abuse, he added. He urged police forces to make a risk assessment of every offender not only on the content and number of images they possessed but also their potential contact with children.
The report indicates the volume of images coupled with budget cuts is putting unprecedented pressure on already stretched specialist units tackling online child abuse images, leading to the risk that identifiable child victims of sexual abuse were not being rescued.
"Not all images found on storage media are reviewed and classified due to a lack of time and resource to process the large collections of images [...] consequently the chances of identifying new images and their victims are reduced," the report says. In a perfect world all cases would be investigated as soon as police became aware of the offence, but "in a time where resource is sparse and priorities continually modified, this has become increasingly unachievable" it adds.
Baker said: "We must recognise that the professionals dealing with these cases have a passion for child protection but if there is a small unit and many cases to look at that is a real challenge."
The report also says people working with children - in schools or in care - were among the most dangerous offenders. Analysis of 97 case studies, from 34 UK police forces, showed that dual offenders - those harbouring indecent images and also sexually abusing children - were most likely to be between the ages of 19 and 45 and out of work, with people working with children the second most likely group to dual offend.
Offenders looking at child abuse images were also likely to have contact with children, in the majority of cases studied offenders were living with a spouse or partner, and of them more than half were living with children.
Child victims found in online pictures and videos were getting younger, with the offences committed against them more brutal, said the report. According to the study, A Picture of Abuse, images depicting penetrative abuse had risen by 7.6% between 2008 and 2010. But despite evidence that offenders possessing the worst types of sexual images, in many cases perpetrators are avoiding jail terms. In one police force only 18% of people convicted of possessing indecent images of children had been sent to prison over a three year period.
The report warned that although a caution for possessing child abuse images was regarded as unsuitable, the number of cautions were increasing,probably owing to the low number of jail sentences resulting from prosecutions for possession.
In the past year 26 forces reported a total of 2,625 reports of indecent images from January to December 2011, with 246 victims of sexual abuse identified, but the report suggested that as the problem was often difficult to detect and not all forces had been counted the true figure was likely to be higher. In this study data received from 17 forces identified 3% of offenders who had indecent images had also committed a physical offence.
Advances in technology were also putting increasing numbers of teenagers as risk, as they were persuaded to share indecent images of themselves. "Once that image has been sent it is out of your control, and can easily be passed from offender to offender," said Baker.
In one of the most harrowing examples of cases that CEOP have tackled in the report detailed the abuse of two children in care by their foster father and his son. After arrest the father, who had been a foster carer for a number of years, admitted to a range of offences including rape, inciting a child to engage in sexual activity and making indecent images of children, while his son pleaded guilty to sexual activity with a child, sexual assault and making indecent images.
The father told police that the abuse had begun after he took an indecent image of one of the children, while the son said he had begun to abuse the children after discovering the images that his father had taken. The father was sentenced to ten years in prison while the son was given an indeterminate public protection sentence.
The report quoted one child who had appeared in explicit images related to a different case as saying: "I feel like I had my childhood taken away from me, I wasn't allowed a childhood."
Donald Findlater, of the Lucy Faithfull Foundation, a charity dedicated to preventing child sexual abuse, said: "There is no doubt that the possession of indecent images of children is a growing problem. But our responses need to include prevention of this behaviour and we need to distinguish those at low risk of contact abuse - probably the majority - from the minority who are high risk. Children and families deserve a full and balanced analysis of this problem and of the effective responses to it."
Nice story.
http://postimage.org/image/6bz0skryf/
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jun/15/aum-supreme-subway-suspect-arrested
one of my personal obsessions
not really true crime, more darwing award... but made my day
(http://i.imgur.com/fcsRz.jpg)
That is exactly the kind of headline you need to brighten your day. Thank you!
Quote from: tiny_tove on June 15, 2012, 10:48:38 AM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jun/15/aum-supreme-subway-suspect-arrested
one of my personal obsessions
"He was often seen at a restaurant near his dormitory, where he typically drank just one drink with three skewers of grilled chicken, according to the Yomiuri Shimbun."
You gotta love those type of specifics, as if they mattered at all.
Didn't see this link posted:
http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/06/13/teacher-suspended-for-showing-alleged-luka-rocco-magnotta-murder-and-mutilation-video-to-students/
All that's missing is the trailer & it may be there b/c I didn't read it all:
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2012/05/13/rafferty-mcclintic-murder-stafford_n_1512504.html
The teacher showing the video to students is hilarious.
A pretty complete Luka timeline is at http://pastebin.com/ngjMR2YL
And best new Luka story yet is at
http://www.businessinsider.com/the-bizarre-backstory-of-the-alleged-canadian-psycho-2012-6 :
25. tied me up with duct tape and forced me to listen to my favorite song "Patience" at full volume while he fisted me in my anus.
So it seems "Manny" made him do it. There's some speculation already whether Manny is actually his dog and he's going for the full Son of Sam revival thing.
"Magnotta posts a review of '120 days of Sodom' on one of his blogspot accounts.
He writes "Not to many of you heard about this film. The reason being is because it's banned in many
countries due to their intense rape scenes, fascism (eating feces), and torture."..."Despite the dark and disgusting feel to it it can be viewed as a piece of art." He also posts a review about the horrofilm 'The Human Centipede'."
It seems he thought of fascism in a scatological sense, I guess he was thinking faeces - faecism.
http://serialkillersink.net/skistore/index.php
I saw that guy on NatGeo's show, "Taboo". The Slavemaster hammer is pretty cool.
I own a letter from Gerald Schaefer (I think that's his name?) & a Manson signature off the corner of a letter he sent someone else (who knows him, had reg contact w/some of the Girls, etc). Not too sure if I still have that letter, need to dig around.
I used to write with several of these gentlemen in the 90's... Ottis Toole, Gerard Schrafer, Gacy, etc. Got offered money for those treasures but will never part from them.
Another Green River Killer victim identified
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/wash-officials-green-river-killer-victim-idd-16600685#.T-BxqpHNkxE
Teen survives a spear through the skull
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-18509408
Quote from: Peterson on June 20, 2012, 02:42:57 AM
one of the young girls who was becoming a whore in the 1991 documentary "Streetwise," later became one of his younger victims.
I didn't know about this. Makes the film even more enjoyable! Was she the one going to a clinic and stuff?
Shiner Bock use to be a pretty good beer until they monkeyed with it.
http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/state&id=8707343
Did they mess with the formula? I haven't had it in a long time. They sell it for too much $$$ on the East Coast
Yeah, quite a few years ago. Seems like it 'softened' up in taste. Use to drink it regularly then it changed so it has been a very long time since I've had it. They have a Black Lager that is pretty good.
Other than the beer & this child molestor getting what he deserved, we never hear anything about Shiner TX.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2012/jun/24/undertaker-investigation-undercover-filming
http://blogs.sfweekly.com/thesnitch/2012/06/larry_brinkin_chil_porn.php (http://blogs.sfweekly.com/thesnitch/2012/06/larry_brinkin_chil_porn.php)
Quote from: d_i_v_i_d_e on June 26, 2012, 01:52:19 AM
http://blogs.sfweekly.com/thesnitch/2012/06/larry_brinkin_chil_porn.php (http://blogs.sfweekly.com/thesnitch/2012/06/larry_brinkin_chil_porn.php)
"I loved especially the nigger 2 year old getting nailed. Hope you'll continue so I can see what the little blond bitch is going to get. White Power! White Supremacy! White Dick Rules!"!!!!!!!!!
http://miami.cbslocal.com/2012/06/27/medical-examiner-causeway-cannibal-not-high-on-bath-salts/
Poppo apparently hadn't done "bath salts" or any other weird psycho-drugs, only weed but that doesn't usually make people cannibalistic. Wonder if they'll ever solve this thing.
Quote from: hsv on June 28, 2012, 01:40:25 AM
Poppo apparently hadn't done "bath salts" or any other weird psycho-drugs, only weed but that doesn't usually make people cannibalistic. Wonder if they'll ever solve this thing.
An interesting twist to our endless "war on drugs"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdbJ7TSMIcw
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/congress-votes-ban-bath-salts-article-1.1103242?localLinksEnabled=false
Not looked for article info but saw this newspaper scan on FB:
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/255220_258415614264770_836981304_n.jpg
Didn't know whether to post here or the curiosities thread!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2165681/I-love-abusing-kid-Mother-videoed-assault-torment-month-old-baby-sent-childs-father.html?ICO=most_read_module
Mother video tapes herself abusing 10 month old, sends tape to father.
Quote from: martialgodmask on June 28, 2012, 04:28:07 PM
Not looked for article info but saw this newspaper scan on FB:
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/255220_258415614264770_836981304_n.jpg
Didn't know whether to post here or the curiosities thread!
A friend of a friend worked in a animal hospital or veterinarian's office or something and said every once in a while they'd get sketchy old men who'd bring in cats with torn-up assholes or something and refusing to say what happened to them. Bestiality is legal here and I guess it's hard to prove something anyway.
Quote from: hsv on June 29, 2012, 03:37:57 AM
Quote from: martialgodmask on June 28, 2012, 04:28:07 PM
Not looked for article info but saw this newspaper scan on FB:
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/255220_258415614264770_836981304_n.jpg
Didn't know whether to post here or the curiosities thread!
A friend of a friend worked in a animal hospital or veterinarian's office or something and said every once in a while they'd get sketchy old men who'd bring in cats with torn-up assholes or something and refusing to say what happened to them. Bestiality is legal here and I guess it's hard to prove something anyway.
Well, if karma exists, hopefully they'll get what's coming.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4408161/Ian-Brady-rushed-to-hospital-after-suffering-a-seizure.html
Jorge Rafael Videla convicted of baby thefts
Former Argentine dictator jailed for 50 years after executing a systematic plan to steal babies from leftist dissenters
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2012/7/5/1341526669477/General-Jorge-Rafael-Vide-008.jpg)
guardian.co.uk, Thursday 5 July 2012 23.19 BST
General Jorge Rafael Videla
Jorge Rafael Videla at the courtroom before receiving the sentence for his role in an orchestrated plan to kidnap babies. Photograph: Juan Mabromata/Getty
Argentina took a giant leap forward in its struggle to come to terms with its bloody past during the 1976-83 dictatorship by condemning former dictator Jorge Videla to 50 years in prison for masterminding a plan for stealing the newborn children of political opponents and handing the babies over to be raised by "good" military families after killing their mothers.
The verdict on Thursday evening capped a 16-year trial during which hundreds of hours of testimony were heard proving that the kidnappings were not just collateral damage in the "civil war" between the military and leftwing guerrillas, as supporters of the dictatorship have claimed, but rather a deliberate policy put in place by the top leaders of the regime.
"The kidnapping of newly born babies is the last crime that former members of the military regime are willing to admit," says British journalist Robert Cox, who was one of the main witnesses at the trial last year. As editor of the small English-community daily Buenos Aires Herald in the late 1970s, Cox was one of the only journalists in Argentina who dared report on the crimes committed by the military as they happened, including their kidnapping of infants. "It's like the Nazis, what they did was so terrible they could never admit it," Cox said in Buenos Aires upon hearing the verdict that his testimony helped bring about.
The reading of the verdict was followed by a huge crowd outside the Buenos Aires court who viewed the proceedings on giant video screens set up on the street in a carnival-like atmosphere organised by human rights groups with some of Argentina's top rock bands playing to the assembled crowd after the verdict was heard.
Until now, top leaders of the regime such as Videla claimed that the kidnappings were haphazard occurrences not sanctioned by his regime, something that Cox refutes. "It was a plan because they set up these maternity wards expressly for that purpose in the camps were they held opponents. They try to make it sound as if they were being humane in saving the kids, but the kidnapping of babies is the one thing that even the most rightwing fascist-minded supporters of the dictatorship condemn."
Apart from Videla, other top leaders of the military regime received sentences ranging from 40 to 15 years, including Reynaldo Bignone, the last leader of the military junta in 1983, former general Santiago Riveros, who oversaw a number of death camps, Jorge Acosta, head of the ESMA death camp where a special maternity ward was set up to deliver many of the abducted babies, as well as doctor Jorge Magnacco, who delivered most of the babies born at the ESMA.
A total of 500 babies are believed to have been handed over to military families after their mothers were murdered by the dictatorship. So far, 105 of them, now all in their 30s, have been identified through DNA tests and united with their blood families through the efforts of the Grandmothers of Plaza de Mayo, an association formed over three decades ago by the mothers of the missing women whose babies were stolen.
"This trial crowns many years of struggle by the Grandmothers," said Victoria Montenegro, who discovered her real identity and was united with her blood family in 2001. "I think the Grandmothers, now all in their 80s, deserve the Nobel peace prize for their brave and untiring work," added Cox.
One wife of a military officer who brought one such baby home 34 years ago claimed she never knew the baby was the son of a murdered political opponent. "My priority has always been my children, I feel I have three children although one is not my biological son," said Susana Colombo, who was sentenced to five years for the kidnapping of Francisco Madariaga, who only found out his real identity two years ago after growing up believing Colombo was his mother.
"This is justice, this is democracy, at last these people who did us so much damage are condemend, although personally it is a very difficult moment for me," said Madariaga in tears upon hearing the verdict.
'Well done! You've gone up a level in the spiritual world'
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/2012/06/21/psychic-karl-lang-made-me-perform-like-a-porn-star-alleged-victim-tells-court-91466-31232852/
Duncan answered my question. http://5ninquery.blogspot.co.uk/2012/07/what-dealings-do-you-remember-having.html
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4419830/Bridge-trip-wire-burns-boy-12.html
that must hurt
I remember stringing rope across the street as a kid, hanging steel washers on it that would shatter car windshields. Who knew I could have been scarring children instead?
Quote from: ConcreteMascara on July 10, 2012, 04:04:50 PM
I remember stringing rope across the street as a kid, hanging steel washers on it that would shatter car windshields. Who knew I could have been scarring children instead?
We used to pretend to pull a rope across the street when cars came driving down, that was funny... sometimes.
Some asshole last summer strung wire at headheight on the bike trails. Made me pretty paranoid for awhile- scary as shit coming down trails at speed & could get my head cut off.
That chinaman's head for found in a Montreal park last wk (probably already mentioned here).
the thread decapitation thing has been an obsession of mine since I saw it on an issue of Legs Weaver (Italian sci-fi comic). Since then I cannot help myself thinking about it whenever I see a long straight street.
Man mauled to death by tigers in Denmark, possible suicide.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-18798542
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4426592/Cannibals-disembowelled-inmate-to-eat-his-liver.html
Quote from: tiny_tove on July 13, 2012, 11:19:14 AM
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4426592/Cannibals-disembowelled-inmate-to-eat-his-liver.html
damn, you beat me to it...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=c_h1D8dBgUU
Hate on the streets - reports on racial violences in Greece since 2008
http://www.hrw.org/sites/default/files/reports/greece0712ForUpload_0.pdf
http://blogs.reuters.com/photographers-blog/2012/07/17/photographing-elusive-killer-karla-homolka/ (http://blogs.reuters.com/photographers-blog/2012/07/17/photographing-elusive-killer-karla-homolka/)
bed his ex's mother and kill her while on the phone with ex gf
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4434984/Killer-made-ex-listen-to-mums-plea-for-life.html
"beast", "brute", "monster", "bloodbath" and "caged" - Even for the Sun this article seems a little sensationalist
in other news
a Heathrow airport hotel receptionist kills 2 fellow employees, then hides inside the bed the one corpse was left on, while police and pathologists examined the body.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-18888596
Quote from: ConcreteMascara on July 18, 2012, 03:39:09 PM
a Heathrow airport hotel receptionist kills 2 fellow employees, then hides inside the bed the one corpse was left on, while police and pathologists examined the body.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-18888596
Were those Policemen blind?
(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/61656000/jpg/_61656210_ban-divan_met.jpg)
Yep, nothing stands out about that bed there.
I knew a tweaker who had a secret crawl spot that he put behind a large screen TV that went into his wall. The cops raided his Meth lab one day and he hid in that wall for 6 hours and the Marshall's service didn't catch him for almost a month later in a different state. His girlfriend told me they had K9's too but they didn't catch his scent in there. He just sat there, pretty comfortably, and listened to them going through his shit and breaking down his lab.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jul/18/israel-iran-bomb-tourists-bulgaria
http://www.itv.com/news/story/2012-07-20/ten-shot-dead-at-batman-film-premiere-denver-says-report/
Nice!
It was Joker
Quote from: MT on July 20, 2012, 11:56:10 AM
http://www.itv.com/news/story/2012-07-20/ten-shot-dead-at-batman-film-premiere-denver-says-report/
Nice!
Apparently 14 dead now and 50 wounded. I guess the movie was not satisfying?
"what ???? not tim burton?????"
Quote from: tiny_tove on July 20, 2012, 03:58:30 PM
"what ???? not tim burton?????"
coffee spilled. thanks..
50 total; 12 dead, 38 wounded. Boobytrapped apartment, S&W AR-15, 12ga shotgun, & 2 Glock .40S&W handguns, bulletproof vest/throatprotector/ballistic helmet & leggings (!!!), gasmask, & possibly a teargas cannister.
MSNBC has already started on gun control. A Democract Gov. said no one should be able to own a nuclear-fired rocket launcher. Another guest said explosives need to be regulated & gun-smuggling banned. Not too sure but I would think there are already state/federal laws about explosives, gunsmuggling, & murder. I'd love to see a nuclear-fired rocket launcher.
Oh, and they blamed glorification of violence in movies. And there were young children in attendance.
Quote from: Peterson on July 20, 2012, 08:47:29 PM
With how bad most comic book movies tend to be, can't say I'm surprised! If only someone had taken similar action at the Watchmen premier.
Many shitey comic adaptations sure, for me Watchmen is not one of them.
The "kids in attendance" thing will probably give rise to heated debate over stricter controls/censorship but, ultimately, whether kids were there or not people would've still gotten shot.
Occupy comic book adaptations.
Listen to Batman theater shooting 911 calls http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYRetvmaY4g
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on July 20, 2012, 07:53:24 PM
I'd love to see a nuclear-fired rocket launcher.
Several funnies.
Associated with Batman shooting:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/couple-colo-theater-shooting-escape-baby-toddler-tow/story?id=16821447#.UAo0ZfUbSSo (http://abcnews.go.com/US/couple-colo-theater-shooting-escape-baby-toddler-tow/story?id=16821447#.UAo0ZfUbSSo)
the guy hears the shooting, runs away, leaving his fiancee with the daughter, drops the baby, drives home alone, calls to his fiancee, drives back.
http://www.justicevids.com/18-year-old-who-allegedly-molested-sodomized-2-young-kids-cries-in-trial/ (http://www.justicevids.com/18-year-old-who-allegedly-molested-sodomized-2-young-kids-cries-in-trial/)
Crying 18-year old child molester
Quote from: Levas on July 21, 2012, 09:44:46 AM
http://www.justicevids.com/18-year-old-who-allegedly-molested-sodomized-2-young-kids-cries-in-trial/ (http://www.justicevids.com/18-year-old-who-allegedly-molested-sodomized-2-young-kids-cries-in-trial/)
Crying 18-year old child molester
Click on the next video after the crying kid to see some stupid woman set herself on fire trying to burn down someone's house. Made me laugh.
Quote from: RyanWreck on July 18, 2012, 06:38:49 PMI knew a tweaker who had a secret crawl spot that he put behind a large screen TV that went into his wall. The cops raided his Meth lab one day and he hid in that wall for 6 hours and the Marshall's service didn't catch him for almost a month later in a different state. His girlfriend told me they had K9's too but they didn't catch his scent in there. He just sat there, pretty comfortably, and listened to them going through his shit and breaking down his lab.
Made me think of a story I heard from a guy I know... he worked a shit job clearing out apartments of evicted people and one place he went into, he found a guy under the couch, who exclaimed "Wow I thought you were the cops!" and took off...
Here's a list of all 'mass' shootings in the U.S. compiled by The Brady Campaign:
http://www.bradycampaign.org/xshare/pdf/major-shootings.pdf
Just saw an interview with a woman who thinks that everyone should "at least" have to show an ID to buy a gun. You'd think these reporters would have to do, at least, some research before opening their mouths.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on July 23, 2012, 08:52:33 PM
You'd think these reporters would have to do, at least, some research before opening their mouths.
Ice-T is more reliable than any reporter and that's sad.
http://popwatch.ew.com/2012/07/24/ice-t-jason-alexander-colorado-shooting-guns/
Umberto lenzi style
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4448847/Monster-dad-hangs-daughter-from-chandelier-as-punishment.html
Has anyone noticed the trend moving towards mass shootings over serial killing? Seems that serials are becoming more n' more rare; I'm thinking the current crop need immediate gratification and attention instead of being cautious & patient. For mass killers, I miss the anger from older shooters like James Huberty or the precision/skill of Charles Whitman. It's hard not to think that the last few, if they could have just found someone to hug them & dump some pills down their throat, they wouldn't have been so dramatic over minor issues.
Looks like the CO. shooter didn't do much training with his AR & the Beta mag; the Beta is known for working well but it needs to be lubed with graphite. I'm guessing he used cheap Russian .223 ammo (bought in bulk) which isn't the best of quality hence the jamming/feeding issues he couldn't clear. The AR's chamber getting hot with the lacquer coating (seals bullet to casing; I remember it on Wolf ammo being red) on some the Russian ammo gums up fast- I've had a case stuck in my AR. To get it out I had to dump a bunch of oil inside, let it sit then poked it out with a cleaning rod. From then on, I was much slower on the trigger & ran a Bore Snake through after every few mags. That may not be the case with the S&W M&P AR-15 if it's piston-driven (chamber doesn't heat up as quickly, maybe?)...
Mass shooters use to be angry, middle-aged men, now it's teens to early-20s who barely have any 'real world' problems. They haven't been alive long enough for life to beat them down so they have really extreme reactions to very minor, temporary issues. They haven't earned the right to go hunting humans!
I think it was the 2 kids in Arkansas who teamed up, one pulled a fire alarm so the shooter could pick kids off as they were coming out of the school. That one was interesting. I can't remember why they did it. Bullying, probably.
There's reports that the CO. shooter was dumped recently by his girlfriend & he sent a Uni. psychiatrist a diary with drawings of his plans but it sat in the school's mailroom until cops found it after-the-fact.
I thought I was the only one who missed good old serial killers. I don't know if they are by the wayside because of the technology we have now which lets us catch them quicker, as opposed to the 70's and 80's which was when Serial Killers seemed to be on the rise, or if the media now pays less attention to them because they are told to due to it feeding their ego, especially when they are given a name.
I've never liked mass shooters, I prefer bombers when it comes to the "loner who jerks off to Guns & Ammo" type of guy.
Quote from: Peterson on July 25, 2012, 10:02:17 PM
As soon as I had read that, I thought "who the hell takes a baby to a movie theater?" What kind of parent takes their kid to something that loud and overwhelming? I thought most parents could have a nice day in the park and be happy, but no, it's all movie theaters and shopping malls.
Yeah bad judgment on their part, "Oh I have an Infant and nothing to do. What? Dark Night Rises came out??? Going."
http://creation.com/inside-the-mind-of-a-killer
(http://creation.com/images/fp_articles/2007/5435sturmgeist.jpg)
Keith is absolutely right about this rise of spree killers fall of serial killers trend, I would attribute it as another incredible byproduct to this mega technology instantaneous culture mindfuck we are in right now, im pretty sure the guy said he was "the joker" or apparently referenced some character from the film before he attacked, so maybe he was more interested in the film itself than with any sort of political or socio-political adgenda
This turn in the discussion immediately reminds me of Virgina Tech, another example of the contemporary spree killer:
(http://www.newscom.com/cgi-bin/featured/prnthumbnew/20070422/CLSU002)
As far as the "decline" in serial murder, its all relative, but im confident we will have a new "big name" case soon.
All the cases that get any media attention now are of old ass men who were serial killer back in the late 70's or 80's,BUT they just got found out now. Like the "Grim Sleeper Killings" and Joseph Naso in Reno.
If I remember correct there was an active Serial killer in the Brooklyn area.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/24/ronald-brown-puppeteer-rape-kill-eat-children_n_1698949.html
not sure if this one has already been posted.
Quote from: STREETMEAT on July 27, 2012, 04:38:37 AM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/24/ronald-brown-puppeteer-rape-kill-eat-children_n_1698949.html
not sure if this one has already been posted.
Speaking of old ass men....
"Ronald Brown, 57, of Largo, was arrested last week after federal agents found that he'd allegedly been chatting online with child pornography suspects about "extremely graphic discussions regarding kidnapping, sexually abusing, murdering and eating children," according to a federal complaint obtained by the Tampa Bay Times."
he'd allegedly been chatting onlineBe careful what you talk about on the internet. what a lesson. Those pics from the article are damn creepy.
HuffPost Live Wants Your Take!
I think there are definitely serial killers out there but it seems less attention is paid to them by the media until they're caught. I wish another Randy Kraft or Larry Eyler would surface.
Yes, the Gay killers are always the best. I've was in contact with a Gay killer in Prison who wrote about some men he said he killed and the cops didn't know about (put a part of one of our correspondences in the FAGGOT piece I did in Exoteric).
i am not sure i even remember the last time i heard about an american serial killer...
except for http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Sowell (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Sowell)
but that was a few years back. at the risk of repeating what people have said, i also think it is rather hard to do in a country that is so advanced in forensics/crime investigation. there are cameras on every street corner. cellphones. precise DNA. its hard for people to disappear/reappear all while leaving a trail of dead behind them.
when talking about a subject like this, i am always reminded of that old documentary THE KILLING OF AMERICA (the full movie is uploaded on youtube if anyone hasnt seen it.) classic shock-u-mentary style thing that focuses on the moral decline of the country from the late 70s/early 1980s- mass murderers, serial killers, drugs, random violence. a great time piece.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4456649/Yob-eats-bus-seat.html
LOOOL
Quote from: Si Clark on July 27, 2012, 10:54:42 AM
There's a documentary on Channel 4 about an American serial killer where '11 bodies dumped on an isolated stretch of coastal road in Long Island, New York, leading to a wealthy gated community.' Do any US people here know of this case? At the end of the documentary they didn't have any idea who the killer was. I also remember reading about some more bodies being discovered in New York semi recently and they called the killer something like The Slow Burner killer or something to do with taking time because he stopped for a long period in between these killings.
SI
Quote from: Mikerdeath on July 27, 2012, 04:24:50 AM
If I remember correct there was an active Serial killer in the Brooklyn area.
I meant to say
Long Island City, never been to NY before but the place looks lovely.
Mom, daughter may be among 10 bodies found near New York beachhttp://wtaq.com/news/articles/2011/sep/20/mom-daughter-may-be-among-10-bodies-found-near-new-york-beach/
Yea, that Long Island Serial Killer has been a media sensation. I do hope that he actually gets away with it, a Zodiac killer of our generation. And I hope he keeps making calls to their family members.
I saw a report on CNN about a big child porn bust & they were referencing a Newsweek or Time mag article about kp's 'popularity' on the internet. Bust came from fed's tracking photos they suspected were new/recent back to a Netherlands daycare centerworker.
http://antonia-monacelli.hubpages.com/hub/Murderous-Children-Cristian-Fernandez
(http://s2.hubimg.com/u/6155633_f520.jpg)
Wisconsin Sikh temple gunman named as Wade Michael Page. Here is his old band's myspace -http://www.myspace.com/endapathyband - the lyrics to 'Self Destruct' are now sorta amusing.
Some guy is on Fox right now reading lyrics by Youngland, another of the shooter's past bands. End Apathy's myspace page looks like typical 'tough guy' hardcore, not white power. MSNBC will have a field day with this: gun control & racism. 2 for 1!
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on August 06, 2012, 08:50:56 PM
Some guy is on Fox right now reading lyrics by Youngland, another of the shooter's past bands. End Apathy's myspace page looks like typical 'tough guy' hardcore, not white power. MSNBC will have a field day with this: gun control & racism. 2 for 1!
youngland, wow. that is definitely not an unknown band in the ranks
south african murder/rape/boiling water
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2179171/Walkerville-family-murders-Horrific-death-boy-12-drowned-boiling-water-robbers-raped-mother.html
Quote from: tiny_tove on August 07, 2012, 09:55:54 AM
south african murder/rape/boiling water
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2179171/Walkerville-family-murders-Horrific-death-boy-12-drowned-boiling-water-robbers-raped-mother.html
"Women are raped and people are shot every day,' 'But the fact that a 12-year-old was killed is horrific. There will be shock.' Despite a recent improvement in crime statistics' "According to one report they [the killers] were led back to their cells
smiling"
Saw this back in may 2011... seems like a good time to post.
"DR Congo: 48 rapes every hour, US study finds"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-13367277
Quote from: HongKongGoolagong on August 06, 2012, 07:07:00 PM
Wisconsin Sikh temple gunman named as Wade Michael Page. Here is his old band's myspace -http://www.myspace.com/endapathyband - the lyrics to 'Self Destruct' are now sorta amusing.
Dude probably thought he was shooting Muslims, Christ the right is so stupid
Quote from: KHH on August 07, 2012, 12:51:08 PM
Quote from: HongKongGoolagong on August 06, 2012, 07:07:00 PM
Wisconsin Sikh temple gunman named as Wade Michael Page. Here is his old band's myspace -http://www.myspace.com/endapathyband - the lyrics to 'Self Destruct' are now sorta amusing.
Dude probably thought he was shooting Muslims, Christ the right is so stupid
Pretty much. It's what I was thinking.
Reminds me of the time while riding the bus in Chicago, where some Pollock kept bitching to the Sikh bus driver about how all of "them" were going back to Afghanistan.
I don't think I've laughed harder in public.
They were brown so still half right. The left isn't much smarter: Occupiers protesting in Chicago against Rush Limbaugh who hasn't lived or worked in Chicago for years. Granted no one was killed but you get my point. Always Do Your Research First!
I've never heard of Youngland but I don't keep up with WP music anymore (since Tri-State Terror died). The name is familiar- is there band called Youngblood?
Last night CNN talked to the Southern Poverty Law Center who claim to have been 'tracking' the shooter for 12 years after they found out he was in contact or ordered material from The National Alliance. How they 'track' a civilian, I have no idea. Shows they what they do, doesn't make a fuck of a difference. Is keeping track of hate groups the only thing the SPLC does?
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on August 07, 2012, 07:16:40 PM
Last night CNN talked to the Southern Poverty Law Center who claim to have been 'tracking' the shooter for 12 years after they found out he was in contact or ordered material from The National Alliance. How they 'track' a civilian, I have no idea.
So many far-right groups are thoroughly infiltrated and in some cases outright controlled by LE and intelligence agencies. I don't know how anyone could be so stupid as to think say, Stormfront is actually a 'white nationalist community' rather than an information-gathering project but these political cranks aren't known for their brightness. Same goes of course for the other side - Indymedia was almost entirely taken over by IP-logging cops some years ago in most territories.
Seems this big crybaby did it because his girlfriend threw him out and he couldn't handle his drink.
I haven't heard anything about the shooter being involved with any specific group other than the white power heavy metal bands (The WP Music Industry brings in millions according to the SPLC person I saw on CNN).
Listening to the SPLC, it sounds like they're real-life detectives instead of logging user names, what they post, etc. on forums. It would be funny if they were following people, taking surveillance photos, shaving their heads, getting 1488 tattoos, arranging bomb & machine gun sells...
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on August 07, 2012, 07:16:40 PM
They were brown so still half right
What on earth does this mean?
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/07/us-usa-wisconsin-shooting-idUSBRE8740FP20120807
Label 56 issue a statement:
"Label 56 is very sorry to hear about the tragedy in Wisconsin and our thoughts are with the families and friends of those who are affected. We have worked hard over the years to promote a positive image and have posted many articles encouraging people to take a positive path in life, to abstain from drugs, alcohol, and just general behavior that can affect ones life negatively. Likewise we have never sought attention by using "shock value"/ symbols and ideology that are generally labeled as such. With that being said, all images and products related to End Apathy have been removed from our site. We do not wish to profit from this tragedy financially or with publicity.
In closing please do not take what Wade did as honorable or respectable and please do not think we are all like that.
Thank you, Label 56"
Quote from: tiny_tove on August 08, 2012, 09:40:06 AM
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/07/us-usa-wisconsin-shooting-idUSBRE8740FP20120807
I found this sentence "In recent days, Page turned from his guitar to a gun." rather amusing.
What I think is interesting is that you see that over a long period of time he remained active with WP music, even with sometimes some years inbetween and then he goes to shooting people, whereas a lot of other WP bands (as far as I know, I'm not too much into this) seem to run only for a couple of years and then disappear and you'll never know whether they turned away from the ideas or just stopped making music. I think of Hate Society for example, whose album 'Sounds of Racial Hatred' I like a lot, really nice music and the lyrics always make me crack.
Quote from: HONOR_IS_KING! on August 08, 2012, 03:45:58 AM
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on August 07, 2012, 07:16:40 PM
They were brown so still half right
What on earth does this mean?
"If it ain't white, it ain't right" so getting the religion wrong is a moot point. If he thought they were Muslim which doesn't seem to be the case- I'm guessing he went for the brown skin.
Local paper has an article about hate rock & mentions he was in Intimidation One which is a band I am familiar with. Seems I had their cd or a comp they were on. I think they had the boring RAC sound.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4498292/Suspects-hunted-over-rape-of-terrified-boy-in-shop-toilet.html
more male rape
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2012/feb/21/us-more-men-raped-than-women
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/jun/29/guardian-investigation-abuse-power-police
Quote from: tiny_tove on August 22, 2012, 01:01:42 PM
more male rape
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2012/feb/21/us-more-men-raped-than-women
Crucial information here.
& one for youth! "The teenager said he had taken part in executions of police, farmers and even a musician since February."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/13/mexico-teen-assassin-_n_1882679.html
former Scoutmaster charged with trading child porn.
http://www.philly.com/philly/neighbors/main_line/20120925_Former_scoutmaster_charged_with_trading_child_porn.html (http://www.philly.com/philly/neighbors/main_line/20120925_Former_scoutmaster_charged_with_trading_child_porn.html)
I saw the live suicide video:
http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/technology/2012/09/fox_news_car_chase_suicide_video_was_buzzfeed_wrong_to_post_it_on_youtube_.html?tid=sm_tw_button_toolbar
Wasn't expecting it to end the way it did. The idiot drove onto a dirt road, took off running and falling down like someone was hot on his tail then stopped, fiddled with something (obviously the gun but his back was to the heli camera) then shot himself.
Quote from: ConcreteMascara on September 26, 2012, 01:15:21 AM
former Scoutmaster charged with trading child porn.
http://www.philly.com/philly/neighbors/main_line/20120925_Former_scoutmaster_charged_with_trading_child_porn.html (http://www.philly.com/philly/neighbors/main_line/20120925_Former_scoutmaster_charged_with_trading_child_porn.html)
"The allegations against this individual in no way reflect on the outstanding job our more than 50,000 security officers do every day to ensure the security of the traveling public."
http://www.abc2news.com/dpp/news/crime_checker/baltimore_county_crime/tsa-agent-charged-with-possession-of-child-porn#ixzz27svp25Fp
(http://www.abc2news.com/dpp/news/crime_checker/baltimore_county_crime/tsa-agent-charged-with-possession-of-child-porn#ixzz27svp25Fp)
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on September 29, 2012, 08:13:45 PM
I saw the live suicide video:
http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/technology/2012/09/fox_news_car_chase_suicide_video_was_buzzfeed_wrong_to_post_it_on_youtube_.html?tid=sm_tw_button_toolbar
Wasn't expecting it to end the way it did. The idiot drove onto a dirt road, took off running and falling down like someone was hot on his tail then stopped, fiddled with something (obviously the gun but his back was to the heli camera) then shot himself.
The Fox guys commentary on the video made me laugh a lot.
Miraculous coincidence, the same day fox lets this video slip out, the American Journal Of Public Health comes out with this...
Suicide has surpassed motor vehicle traffic crashes as the leading cause of injury mortality.http://ajph.aphapublications.org/doi/abs/10.2105/AJPH.2012.300960 (http://ajph.aphapublications.org/doi/abs/10.2105/AJPH.2012.300960)
This data reminds me of our spree killer discussion, maybe they really are more prevalent now.
The Fox commentor had very little info during the chase. I recall a few smart-ass remarks about the carjacker. Other that the helicopter, no one seemed to be after him. I figured he would crash because he was FLYING past trucks and cars at 100mph after car-jacking someone & firing at the police. I don't remember if it was in Phoenix or not. Pretty good catching it yesterday afternoon. Better than watching anything about the fucking Presidental race...
Quote from: tiny_tove on August 22, 2012, 01:01:42 PM
more male rape
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2012/feb/21/us-more-men-raped-than-women
QuoteFirst of all, "sexual assault" is not always the same as "rape" and includes a variety of behaviour that wouldn't meet the legal standard for rape. So it's not clear that there are actually more rapes of men than women, or more rapes of prisoners than non-prisoners.
Of course, of course...
Chinese food joint closed down after a dead deer (roadkill) is found in the kitchen
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/01/roadkill-chinese-restaurant-kentucky-closed-after-dead-deer-kitchen_n_1929241.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/01/roadkill-chinese-restaurant-kentucky-closed-after-dead-deer-kitchen_n_1929241.html)
"I just killed my mom and my sister" - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBn1uQJq7L4
File this under "related".
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/7528428/French-firm-offers-to-kidnap-paying-thrill-seekers.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/7528428/French-firm-offers-to-kidnap-paying-thrill-seekers.html)
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on October 07, 2012, 04:58:45 AM
File this under "related".
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/7528428/French-firm-offers-to-kidnap-paying-thrill-seekers.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/7528428/French-firm-offers-to-kidnap-paying-thrill-seekers.html)
It would be quite fun to be tracked by a bounty hunter.
Brady brought back to life
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2214031/Ian-Brady-Moors-murderer-brought-life-hospital-staff-heart-stops.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2214031/Ian-Brady-Moors-murderer-brought-life-hospital-staff-heart-stops.html)
Nazis in Mongolia
http://search.kr.real.com/watch.php?id=xBBgl85MAKg (http://search.kr.real.com/watch.php?id=xBBgl85MAKg)
I hope something like this for Italy, including corporal punishment.
Victims of antisocial behaviour to decide on punishment
Home secretary Theresa May wants 'community remedy' powers to allow victims to choose from menu of punishment options
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Theresa May
Theresa May is to set up a review of how the Human Rights Act can be replaced by a UK bill of rights and responsibilities. Photograph: Peter Byrne/AFP/Getty Images
Victims of antisocial behaviour are to decide how offenders are punished for the first time under a 'community remedy' power to be detailed by the home secretary, Theresa May, in a speech at the Conservative party conference on Tuesday.
The home secretary will say she wants to change the law to empower victims to ensure they get some form of reparation by choosing from a 'menu' of punishment options that would include a form of restorative justice.
May is also to respond to the delays of up to 14 years in extraditing terror suspects such as Abu Hamza by announcing she is setting up her own review of how the Human Rights Act can be replaced by a British bill of rights and responsibilities. This is likely to clash with the coalition government's existing commission on a bill of rights that is not expected to recommend scrapping the Human Rights Act.
The home secretary is also expected to confirm she intends to opt out of areas of EU police and justice co-operation, including possibly the European arrest warrant under which teacher James Forrest was detained in France last month after leaving Britain with his pupil Megan Stammers.
May will also confirm her target of cutting net migration from 210,000 to 'tens of thousands' by the time of the next election. She also hopes the 'community remedy' will help boost the introduction of police and crime commissioners when the first elections take place on 15 November.
The home secretary told the Daily Mail the new power would be used for low-level crime such as criminal damage, which would normally be dealt with by a caution. Last year, 272,000 cautions were handed out for such antisocial behaviour. The new police and crime commissioners will decide on what menu of punishments should be available to victims to choose from.
An offender who refuses to accept the punishment would face court proceedings as an alternative.
"One of the big problems for the victims of antisocial behaviour is that they feel powerless," May told the newspaper. "Somebody does something to them or their property and they feel they don't get reparation, or feel they are not part of the process.
"We want to ensure that they have a choice. It will mean saying to the victim: here's a list of options, what do you want to do? They may choose to go down the restorative route, and that they want someone to say sorry.
"It may be that they want reparation for the damage that was done, so if a window has been broken they want it fixed. It may be that they want an offender to do something not immediately in relation to them, but for the community," she said.
The home secretary's intention to opt out of some areas of European policing and judicial co-operation has attracted strong criticism from senior police leaders and the Liberal Democrats.
May is expected to indicate at the very least that the UK will opt out of EU police and justice co-operation when the decision has to be made in 2014. This will be packaged up as part of the UK repatriating powers from Europe.
The European arrest warrant is seen by police and intelligence officers as one of the most successful of all instruments in European crime-fighting, helping speed up extraditions and the process of bringing to justice some of Europe's most wanted criminals. If the UK opts out of all police and justice co-operation it can selectively opt back in to some of it at a later stage, provided other countries do so.
cops & dad kidnap a kid from school to lock him into a institution.
the mother and all the neighbours intervene, cops bully them and journalists saying they can do whatever they want.
http://www.adnkronos.com/IGN/News/Cronaca/Bimbo-prelevato-da-polizia-VIDEO-Manganelli-dispone-uninchiesta_313781644670.html
interactive guide to bali bombers
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/interactive/2012/oct/12/bali-bomb-guide-bombers?intcmp=239
Authorities: 'Predator at large in our community'
Authorities said it took several days to identify the girl because the body was not intact.
http://www.coloradoan.com/viewart/20121013/NEWS11/310130004/Authorities-Predator-large-our-community-after-Jessica-Ridgeway-found-dead
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-19952899 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-19952899)
Former Bosnian Serb leader Radovan Karadzic has said he should be rewarded for "reducing suffering", not accused of carrying out war crimes.
Saville galore
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/oct/07/nick-cohen-jimmy-savile-child-abuse
Saville the necro-paedo (by warren ellis)
http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/good-morning-sinners-warren-ellis-jimmy-savile-and-the-price-of-silence
Comment on the Vice article...
Quoteinstead of taking up his gravestone and removing the flowers, his family should have changed the epitaph to "Necrononce". now it's just a small hole in the ground and no bush around it- just what he would have wanted.
Jimmy Savile: BBC regrets dropped Newsnight investigation
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20038436
Quite annoying, but also in some ways interesting case:
Finnish prime-minister taking part of currently going lower level city/county elections. Approached by some loser, who kneels in front of him, handing over kitchen knife, handle first to the minister saying he came to "fake kill him" (whatever translation would suit the best). Just media trick to get his "political ideas heard".
Of course media is all about "attempted stabbing of prime-minister", while this was never the case. However, in middle of day, in Turku, if he wanted, he could have stabbed. Or shot. Or.. well, basically done whatever someone pleases.
Case is annoying, because it again shows how retarted hysteria is being produced by media. They will talk about attempted kill or attempted stabbing while they know it wasn't the case. Just to sell papers exaggerations and misinformation is being flamed all over papers and prime time TV.
Next thing we have is "concerned citizen" demanding something silly, like more surveillance cameras, more big brother, and whatever. As if this would have any effect on anything.
Will you ban kitchen knives? Will you perform body search on every person walking on public? If not, then the reality is that whether politicians, ministers, president, corporation bosses.. etc.. live or die, is simply based on morality of surrounding people. Anyone could be killed, with no detailed plans, with no major effort. It just requires man next to you suddenly take razor sharp knife and assault. That's what makes news interesting. As much as we have all sorts of shit going on in society, there hardly ever happens assault on the people who are the biggest enablers of things going wrong. We have scandalous news of all sorts of extremists, but in reality, whole fragile system remains untouched and respected.
I visited punk forum with discussion of news, and I didn't see single message saying stabbing that prick would have been good. All I saw was "he is asshole, but I don't approve things like this". Of course, bourgeois posers. It would have been great to get news of some serious ass-stabbing.
Same discussion is happening here in Berlin at the moment. 20 year got stomped to death by six guys and now it's all - more police won't help (arguing that it never happens in front of police officers) , we need more cameras in the city. More surveillance, more security? Get the right case, blow it up over the news and use the outcry to push through more state control.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4608178/BBC-probe-two-more-Saviles.html
More BBC pervs
Update on Saville!
Gary Glitter back in jail "I am the leader of the gang-bang"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/global/2012/oct/28/gary-glitter-arrest-jimmy-savile
http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/blog/2012/09/21/jury-convicts-man-for-orally-raping-his-baby-to-death/index.html - ewww. What the fuck is up with this baby-raping thing. I think it's somewhere in Interzone that Burroughs says 'Anyone who can't wait til a kid is thirteen got something wrong with them' but these sick fucks make even the regular paedos seem reasonable.
Conspiracy theories hit the mainstream press re: Savile, the Leader of the Gang etc: http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/354945/Sex-abuse-is-guilty-secret
And 'Jimmy The Beast' plus 'Masonic imagery' http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2224672/Jimmy-Savile-The-Beast-Graffiti-vandals-target-paedophile-DJs-Highlands-cottage.html
Mega church pastor beaten to death with electric guitar by man who rammed car into church\
only in Texas...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2225061/Church-pastor-killed-Rev-Danny-Kirk-Sr-beaten-death-electric-guitar.html?ICO=most_read_module (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2225061/Church-pastor-killed-Rev-Danny-Kirk-Sr-beaten-death-electric-guitar.html?ICO=most_read_module)
Quote from: ConcreteMascara on October 31, 2012, 01:55:01 AM
Mega church pastor beaten to death with electric guitar by man who rammed car into church\
only in Texas...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2225061/Church-pastor-killed-Rev-Danny-Kirk-Sr-beaten-death-electric-guitar.html?ICO=most_read_module (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2225061/Church-pastor-killed-Rev-Danny-Kirk-Sr-beaten-death-electric-guitar.html?ICO=most_read_module)
I was gonna post this one but I had to restrain myself. Too good.
"Don't mess..."
Savile+Sutcliffe= tnt
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4629105/peter-sutcliffe-claims-jimmy-savile-is-innocent.html
The supposed ballet roses/Dutroux style UK elite paedo/torture rings in childrens' homes which have broken in the wake of the Savile case:
"They have talked of psychopaths marking children with Stanley knifes to show "ownership". They tell of parties where children were "passed around" the men. They speak of golf course car parks being the scenes for child abuse after an 18 hole round.
And they have named powerful people – some of them household names – who abused children with impunity."
http://www.tom-watson.co.uk/2012/11/10-days-that-shook-my-world
"It was almost like pass the parcel, I knew a few boys who were marked up, like a stamp in the post office, I know one lad ... he had to go off to hospital. He had tremendous problems."
The former resident told the programme about other physical evidence of sexual abuse: "The state of them, they were quite obviously extremely upset - some of them quite marked around the face and body ... cut quite badly around the arms and chest area."
http://www.channel4.com/news/exclusive-eyewitness-saw-thatcher-aide-take-boys-to-abuse
And a nice video of the Prime Minister's face when this was first mentioned in Parliament: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMC1HxjpQu0
Strange times in the UK for sure.
Quote from: HongKongGoolagong on October 29, 2012, 11:10:47 PM
http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/blog/2012/09/21/jury-convicts-man-for-orally-raping-his-baby-to-death/index.html
QuoteDeuman told police that he went out for a cigarette and when he returned to their mobile home, he found the baby lying on the floor unconscious, not breathing, bleeding from the nose, with a used condom in her mouth.
I, for one, would want to have been there when he told them that. This fellow's reception in prison is going to be legendary, even in Hell.
Apparently, Savile was questioned for the Yorkshire ripper case
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4631199/Police-quizzed-Savile-on-ripper-murders.html
Quote from: HongKongGoolagong on November 07, 2012, 05:32:16 AM
The supposed ballet roses/Dutroux style UK elite paedo/torture rings in childrens' homes which have broken in the wake of the Savile case:
"They have talked of psychopaths marking children with Stanley knifes to show "ownership". They tell of parties where children were "passed around" the men. They speak of golf course car parks being the scenes for child abuse after an 18 hole round.
And they have named powerful people – some of them household names – who abused children with impunity."
http://www.tom-watson.co.uk/2012/11/10-days-that-shook-my-world
"It was almost like pass the parcel, I knew a few boys who were marked up, like a stamp in the post office, I know one lad ... he had to go off to hospital. He had tremendous problems."
The former resident told the programme about other physical evidence of sexual abuse: "The state of them, they were quite obviously extremely upset - some of them quite marked around the face and body ... cut quite badly around the arms and chest area."
http://www.channel4.com/news/exclusive-eyewitness-saw-thatcher-aide-take-boys-to-abuse
And a nice video of the Prime Minister's face when this was first mentioned in Parliament: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMC1HxjpQu0
Strange times in the UK for sure.
It will be interesting to see what happens... on one hand I am reminded of the ritual satanic abuse-scare and other pedophile panics in history that turned out to be basically nothing, on the other hand from what I've seen (haven't looked into it that much), the Dutroux case looks like there's definitely been things omitted from the official version. Even if I don't buy into the whole David Icke brainwash-program-theory, it's not so hard to imagine there being cover-ups given that 1) the rich and powerful can obviously be pedophiles as much (probably moreso) as anybody, and 2) all pedophiles will probably use any means available to prevent it from getting out.
Quote from: tiny_tove on November 07, 2012, 09:40:51 AM
Apparently, Savile was questioned for the Yorkshire ripper case
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4631199/Police-quizzed-Savile-on-ripper-murders.html
Quote from: tiny_tove on November 06, 2012, 04:16:26 PM
Savile+Sutcliffe= tnt
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4629105/peter-sutcliffe-claims-jimmy-savile-is-innocent.html
When I dealt with Peter personally over 'Shergar' (his original title for the painting is Making Friends) album cover art in 2003/4 I noticed he had those smiley faces in his signature and handwriting just like Jimmy did. Your links to Sun stories tiny_tove make me remember just what a huge dirt file Murdoch/Newscorp had on not only Savile but presumably also the old politicians and rings who are coming down like a house of cards in the UK now. "Shame makes the world go round" as Morrissey sang.
Quote from: hsv on November 07, 2012, 10:50:10 AM
It will be interesting to see what happens... on one hand I am reminded of the ritual satanic abuse-scare and other pedophile panics in history that turned out to be basically nothing, on the other hand from what I've seen (haven't looked into it that much), the Dutroux case looks like there's definitely been things omitted from the official version. Even if I don't buy into the whole David Icke brainwash-program-theory, it's not so hard to imagine there being cover-ups given that 1) the rich and powerful can obviously be pedophiles as much (probably moreso) as anybody, and 2) all pedophiles will probably use any means available to prevent it from getting out.
I think the idea of all this is that it is (or at least used to be) easier to control someone, politically and/or financially, if you happen to have some photographed or videotaped evidence of them acting in illegal, immoral and shameful sexual ways.
totally agree.
I love reading the sun for pure exploitation value and the idea that this is one of the world's most read newspaper make the value increase :)))
Look at the "connection" points in this article... http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4633112/What-does-ripper-know-about-savile.html
young guy cleared of assault after tearing another guy's scrotum open during a gaelic football match ...
http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/1025/gaa-assault-acquittal.html
http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/players-scrotum-torn-during-pitch-attack-211825.html
South African arrested with 'nephew's genitals in his wallet'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/20251773 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/20251773)
Quote from: tiny_tove on November 08, 2012, 09:29:45 AM
totally agree.
I love reading the sun for pure exploitation value and the idea that this is one of the world's most read newspaper make the value increase :)))
Well this one just published is fucking beautiful and pretty funny too - http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4634859/jimmy-saviles-plea-to-get-sex-for-yorkshire-ripper.html - and the related 'hint-hint' stories below about their other files. The most base tabloids like this so often reveal to the careful and attuned reader more than serious newspapers dare to. I like some of the very crass US tabloids too - they are generally almost 100% correct about the UK Royal Family!
The UK Paedogeddon of 2012 is largely Murdoch's revenge, I am sure.
Christian cultists in group sex and murder -
http://www.kshb.com/dpp/news/region_missouri/grandview/parents-of-bethany-deaton-plea-for-prayers-as-their-daughters-death-is-investigated
Quote from: HongKongGoolagong on November 09, 2012, 04:40:25 AMThe UK Paedogeddon of 2012 is largely Murdoch's revenge, I am sure.
Considering the scalps are coming from the BBC so far, quite likely.
I have always have been perversely convinced that the falldown of Murdoch and Berlusconi is part of an underground war deriving from the competition between Mediaset and Sky -and other stuff.
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on November 13, 2012, 05:25:29 AM
Quote from: HongKongGoolagong on November 09, 2012, 04:40:25 AMThe UK Paedogeddon of 2012 is largely Murdoch's revenge, I am sure.
Considering the scalps are coming from the BBC so far, quite likely.
I think after the arrests of so many of his ex-staff and presumably the secret deals he'd made with Parliament and Police being betrayed he's now just going for causing as much trouble here as possible - Rupert Murdoch presents Anarchy in the UK, heh.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/politics/4643137/MP-Sir-Cyril-Smith-dramatically-unmasked-as-paedo-in-Commons.html
Note continual insinuations about the Royals throughout all this.
Quote from: tiny_tove on November 13, 2012, 09:52:35 AM
I have always have been perversely convinced that the falldown of Murdoch and Berlusconi is part of an underground war deriving from the competition between Mediaset and Sky -and other stuff.
Please do elaborate!
The other side of class war - posh versus posh. Easy to forget they have factions too.
Quote from: Strömkarlen on November 14, 2012, 12:14:23 PM
Quote from: tiny_tove on November 13, 2012, 09:52:35 AM
I have always have been perversely convinced that the falldown of Murdoch and Berlusconi is part of an underground war deriving from the competition between Mediaset and Sky -and other stuff.
Please do elaborate!
well not to much to elaborate, difficult matter.
the two groups (sky and mediaset) have been fighting against each other for the ladership of rights of satellite TV, that has been quite big here. consider that all italy is being forced to pass through the new digital transmissions, even if most Italian still carry on with old TVs. so this means that "free broadcasters" are showing always less material and if you want to have decent programs you must turn to satellites, etc.
the two main groups have been backstabbing each other for this leadership in the market, nothing new, and it sounds a bit weird that at the peak of this both Berlusconi and the Murdoch group get into any sort of scandal, exatly in the same moment.
These are just assumptions of a damaged brain of course, but I tend to not believe in large scale coincidences.
Israeli air strike kills Hamas military chief Jabari
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-20328579
Not exactly true crime of the regular variety, but as a Hamas sympathizer, I definitely consider this true crime at the political/military level.
Something that also crosses over with the sexuality thread.
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/west-virginia/woman-utters-line-never-previously-recorded-police-report (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/west-virginia/woman-utters-line-never-previously-recorded-police-report)
This is fun and different. An American and Canadian tried to smuggle $246 million dollars worth of meth and coke into Australia in a steam roller. I guess it didn't make a good get away vehicle :P
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-20422400 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-20422400)
Quote from: ConcreteMascara on November 14, 2012, 07:11:53 PM
Israeli air strike kills Hamas military chief Jabari
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-20328579
Not exactly true crime of the regular variety, but as a Hamas sympathizer, I definitely consider this true crime at the political/military level.
Pin-point accuracy! Nothing left of him to even scoop up.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/video/2012/nov/22/tottenham-hotspur-lazio-rome-video?CMP=twt_gu
Lazio supporters assault Thottenam fans in Rome.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/nov/22/racist-bus-attack-victim-australia?CMP=twt_gu
how to rob with a dildo
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4660941/man-carrying-sex-toy-sparks-armed-police-swoop.html
http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/gun-enthusiast-kills-17-year-old-playing-loud-music-lawyer-says-he-acted-very
"They were listening to the music. It was loud; they [other teens] admitted that. But I mean that is not a reason for someone to open fire on them."
Today a teacher was stabbed to death in front of his students in Wyoming.
I bet they learned a lot from it.
http://www.seattlepi.com/news/us/article/3-dead-in-Wyoming-attack-at-school-neighborhood-4080849.php
Halabja chemical weapons: A chance to find the men who armed Saddam
steps are being taken to determine which countries supplied Saddam with chemicals used in the Halabja attack
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-20553826 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-20553826)
A mother who beat her seven-year-old son "like a dog" when he failed to memorise passages of the Koran has been found guilty of his murder.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-20596854 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-20596854)
NY Post photographer photographs man moments before he is hit by a subway train.
http://nyc.barstoolsports.com/random-thoughts/new-york-post-in-hot-water-for-showing-this-dude-about-to-get-hit-by-the-train/ (http://nyc.barstoolsports.com/random-thoughts/new-york-post-in-hot-water-for-showing-this-dude-about-to-get-hit-by-the-train/)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-20611140 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-20611140)
http://news.sky.com/story/1021180/cannibal-fears-over-lost-russian-fishermen
Well, that's the script for Ravenous II sorted :)
"The Horrors of Meth" - damn. tweakers are looking worse than heroin addicts these days
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2244031/The-horror-Meth-Before-pictures-reveal-shocking-transformation-faces-users-hooked-deadly-drug.html?ICO=most_read_module (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2244031/The-horror-Meth-Before-pictures-reveal-shocking-transformation-faces-users-hooked-deadly-drug.html?ICO=most_read_module)
Man raped, abused 13 infants (some as young as 8 days old), in their homes and videotaped attacks:
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/12/06/15735891-prosecutor-man-raped-abused-13-infants-children-and-videotaped-attacks?lite
I remember this grim story of Greek debauchery
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4691660/52-years-in-prison-for-the-Beast-of-Kavos-Dimitris-Aspiotis.html
another good old fashioned rampage in Oregon yesterday, although a low death toll
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-20690215 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-20690215)
Jason mask is a plus
A couple of assholes in CT shot & killed 18 elementary kids plus 9 adults in a school. I'm starting to think that America needs to become an actual police state. Everyone needs to be tracked & finger-printed. Schools locked down like prisons. No one should be able to own anything sharp, blunt, heavy, or fires a bullet, a bb, or a paintball. Freedom is just too much responsibility for some people to handle.
I wish that at least people should have to work here instead of sitting on their asses, getting allowances and popping out children one by one. But I guess that would be violating their human rights etc. etc.
Reports now say the 24-yea r old shooter killed his mother who taught at the elementary school he killed everyone at. Two handguns used (a Glock & Sig Sauer) with a Bushmaster AR-15 in his car. Not sure if it's been reported if he shot himself or the police put him down.
Mass shooters use to be much older than they are now. Bunch of fucking dramaqueens in their early 20s. I think I've covered this before...
In similar news 22 kids were knifed at school in Henan, China.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-20723910 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-20723910)
when it comes to china, the ratio should be equivalent to the number of people living there
I totally agree that nobody who posts on this forum should have kids.
Except me, obviously.
Ct. Thoughts
deathtoll rises to 28, 20 injured.
Images/witness interviews// http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/12/14/connecticut-school-shooting-2012/ (http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/12/14/connecticut-school-shooting-2012/)
Short update// http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/1302311--school-shooting-reported-in-connecticut-lockdown-in-place (http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/1302311--school-shooting-reported-in-connecticut-lockdown-in-place)
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on December 14, 2012, 08:24:59 PM
No one should be able to own anything sharp, blunt, heavy, or fires a bullet, a bb, or a paintball. Freedom is just too much responsibility for some people to handle.
Normally when these periodic mass shootings happen, it doesn't hit me on an emotional level. I'm detached from it because it's just something I'm reading about on a screen. This one is different. There's still the detachment from it, but this one gives me a queasy feeling in the pit of my stomach. A massacre of little kids at an elementary school? Not only are a bunch of innocent little kids dead, there's a greater amount of them who are now left to live the rest of their lives with a mental scar that may never fully heal. This was truly a sick, evil, perverse act.
Gee, I wonder if this Lanza guy had been a kid with "behavioral problems" while growing up, so he's been pumped full of medications his whole life? I would not be surprised at all if that were true, and that should really be the issue here in terms of national/global debate. Instead, it will get overshadowed by yet more gun control debate.
I've never been a supporter of more gun control because if you make them illegal then only the criminals will have them because they don't give a shit if they're breaking the law to obtain them. I'm also a hunter, so I use a shotgun and a rifle. This event gives me pause, though...maybe there does need to be greater control. Guns are just too great a responsibility to be available to the masses.
Also, gotta love the conspiracy folk who come out of the woodwork when stuff like this happens. Some people really think that this is some kind of Manchurian candidate false-flag operation carried out by the CIA.
Reports are the shooter was autistic &, of course, intelligent. I think this is the first time I've ever heard anything about an autistic person being violent.
More gun laws will not stop mass shooters unless there's a way to make MOST guns just vanish into thin air. I saw on the MSNBC newscrawl that 4 people in Denver were doused with lighter fluid & set on fire...
Lots of talk about more background checks (closing the so-called 'gun show loophole') & another 'assault weapons' ban. Neither of which will make much difference. Face it, Local/State/& especially the Federal Government do piss poor jobs at stopping ANYTHING before it happens & a few new laws added to the already thousands of laws on the books, will not make anyone safer.
Holy shit, check this out:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_School_disaster
Worst mass murder in US history! I've never heard of it. I like the detail about loading his car with rusted farm machinery for shrapnel. Fucking lunatic was determined to slaughter as many as possible.
If you hate reading, listen to a song about the school bombing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bh2D1LqcHv0
Quote from: RG on December 15, 2012, 05:44:41 PM(T)his one gives me a queasy feeling in the pit of my stomach. A massacre of little kids at an elementary school? Not only are a bunch of innocent little kids dead, there's a greater amount of them who are now left to live the rest of their lives with a mental scar that may never fully heal. This was truly a sick, evil, perverse act.
Agreed, and to me it's the centre of the business. He targeted kids. The babble will go on about guns and the individual's sanity and all the rest of it but in this person's concious mind he decided to kill children. Like those dung in Russia who shot up a school a couple of years ago and that slime who cut up a bunch of kids with a knife just recently in China. That's a line I hate seeing crossed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunblane_school_massacre
May I also refer you to this.
The Bath School Disaster has'em all beat! I can't get over how much he put into just killing EVERYONE over higher taxes. 500#'s of unexploded dynamite in the school's basement plus all the metal crap he loaded into his Model T then drove up to the crowd that had gathered to help then set it all off with a rifle.
The retarded are intellectually disabled, not retarded.
You're not suppose to use the r-word, the n-word, or the i-word (illegal as in illegal alien).
The next few wks may be interesting if the Democrats push for those who have mental issues owning guns. I can imagine people coming out saying that 'just b/c their
son/daughter is autistic, it doesn't make them dangerous & should have the same rights as anyone else until they have been proven otherwise'. If they can't own a gun then what about driving or, as it's been mentioned here, raise a child. I doubt Liberals have the guts to stand up to such arguments. Instead they'll push for an assault weapons/hi-cap mag ban.
There's been some debate as to whether the fuck had some mental illness or not - seriously, so what if he did? The world is full of mentally ill people who don't go around shooting and killing people, and certainly full of people who are totally cognisant who do, they're called soldiers.
A couple of really nutty crime stories buried under the Sandy Hook coverage:
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/court-papers-bieber-wasn-target-castration-article-1.1219200 - $2,500 per testicle.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/texas-dad-carves-pentagram-year-sons-back/story?id=17966644 - 12/12/12 was a holy day.
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on December 17, 2012, 01:11:48 AM
There's been some debate as to whether the fuck had some mental illness or not - seriously, so what if he did? The world is full of mentally ill people who don't go around shooting and killing people, and certainly full of people who are totally cognisant who do, they're called soldiers.
Indeed.
Most people suffering either Autism or Aspergus are living in their own world and wouldn't hurt an ant.
I don't know enough about this guy, but sound very much like somebody who inherited weapon obsession with his mother's milk and developed it alone in his room with his nerd brother.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/dec/18/most-damaged-children-care-failed
Reading about Aspergus, it seems people can fixate on something so maybe he developed a firearm obsession but shooting his mother in the face 4x stinks of some SERIOUS anger issues despite him 'unemotional'. Basically, we'll never know what set him off. Maybe a butterfly flapped its wings in South America setting off a massacre in Newtown CT.
Early reports said he hadn't had any contact with his older brother in a year or more which is kind of odd. If it's true.
indeed.
I am quite confused regarding the brother thing. Apparently he was carrying his brother's documents...
Anyway in order to confuse all of us he destroyed his hard drive so most most of his secrets will be buried with him.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/lostprophets-singer-ian-watkins-remanded-in-custody-after-appearing-in-court-accused-of-conspiring-to-rape-oneyearold-girl-8425042.html - a really terrible band of course but this is a bit more extreme than just some underage groupie story.
See gossip site http://www.whosdatedwho.com/tpx_74997/ian-watkins/comments for gruesome details - wanting to give babies HIV and having dumb teen fans offering their infants, apparently. Makes his crimes against music look harmless!
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-12-20/nepal-elephant-on-cross-border-killing-rampage/4437032 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-12-20/nepal-elephant-on-cross-border-killing-rampage/4437032)
"Young Roma girl kidnapped and murdered in Dublin, attempts at saving her thwarted by illiteracy and language barrier."
The dude has a reputation:
"Gardai long suspected that the dark haired suitor who lured her into his car four years ago was a 29-year-old criminal known for his sexual depravity, and who hired himself out as a hit man for warring crime gangs. "
http://www.independent.ie/opinion/analysis/young-and-vulnerable-her-last-days-spent-in-fear-3003027.html
Quote from: RyanWreck on December 20, 2012, 02:28:17 AM
"Young Roma girl kidnapped and murdered in Dublin, attempts at saving her thwarted by illiteracy and language barrier."
The dude has a reputation:
"Gardai long suspected that the dark haired suitor who lured her into his car four years ago was a 29-year-old criminal known for his sexual depravity, and who hired himself out as a hit man for warring crime gangs. "
http://www.independent.ie/opinion/analysis/young-and-vulnerable-her-last-days-spent-in-fear-3003027.html
I remember her going missing as I was working in Dublin at the time. Was in the news a good bit back then.
Heres some follow up links in relation to it :
http://www.sundayworld.com/columnists/index.php?aid=8154
http://www.irishexaminer.com/archives/2012/0901/world/man-accused-of-2008-murder-of-romanian-teen-to-face-trial-206023.html
very interesting... one of the next chapters of teh caligula031 will deal with roma/sinti.
Quote from: Si Clark on December 20, 2012, 06:29:48 PM
Thanks for the links about Marioara Rostas. If I'm honest I don't usually feel anything when I read articles of people getting killed but this story had an effect on me for some reason. Have just spent a while reading all of the articles. Messed up.
I don't ever feel anything with articles like this, nor videos or sound clips. I used to kind of get bothered when animals would get tortured on video, being a Dog lover and all, but now for some odd reason those don't even bother me. I think as I get older I just get more detached from this type of stuff. And I don't care what anyone says about being "desensitized" or whatever, I personally don't really think that is a good thing. It's almost a de-evolution in my mind.
Quote from: RyanWreck on December 20, 2012, 07:00:24 PMbeing a Dog lover
yeah..
Well, people getting killed is as effective as throwing Chicken McNuggets in garbage can. One would have to find a bit more substance than just ordinary things. You know, thinking of this recent school shooting for example. It maybe should awake more feelings than questions in the lines of "so what?".
Israeli stikes at Gaza killed 20 children last month. Who's crying? Have our governments sent some sort of condolences to them like it appears to be policy when handful of americans die in whatever consequences of gun rampage or hurricane.
Almost million less than 5 year olds dies of diarrhoea each year. Within underground movement of west, it probably causes nothing but fart jokes.
I think it is actually very recommended to watch animal torture videos, if this would be only method of bringing couple honest emotions to ones mind. It's quite brutal situations if nothing awakes any emotion anymore.
The closer you are to whomever or whatever, the more you'll feel. Something in a state/country you've never been to or plan on going to, people you've never heard of & couldn't help even if you wanted to, isn't going to resonant all that much. Like with the 29 kids shot, 300+ million other people did not get shot that day... that line of thinking certainly wouldn't make the victims family feel any better but it is true. I would imagine that a certain amount of disassociation is built in to help with coping otherwise everyone would be an emotional mess every day.
One of the main reasons I dislike liberals is that I do not believe that they care about anyone as much as they say they do.
Not sure if I should include this here or in the documentaries thread, but this seems more applicable.
I've always enjoyed James Ellroy's personality and work. An intense analysis of his own psyche and into the minds of LAPD detectives in general.
Feast of Death
"LA CONFIDENTIAL author James Ellroy surfs the death vibe from the Dallas assassination site of US President John F. Kennedy to the Hollywood intersection where Black Dahlia Elizabeth Short's mutilated corpse was dumped in 1948.
Part procedural, part confessional, FEAST OF DEATH is an uncensored carnival ride through Ellroy's dark places, conducted in fearless fashion by a teenage sneak thief turned celebrated author of crime books written in blood, seminal fluid and napalm.
See Ellroy return to the location of his mother's 1958 rape and murder, which continues to haunt the Demon Dog of American crime fiction 50 years after the fact.
See Ellroy on a profane trip down memory lane to the scenes of his boyhood crimes and misdemeanors.
See Ellroy in skull sessions with LAPD cops and journalists as they name a suspect in the unsolved Black Dahlia case.
A hit at the 2001 Toronto Film Festival, FEAST OF DEATH was directed by Vikram Jayanti (producer of WHEN WE WERE KINGS, 1997 Academy Award® for Best Documentary ) and features an evocative score by Rob Lane (AILEEN: LIFE AND DEATH OF A SERIAL KILLER)."
http://www.amazon.com/James-Ellroys-Feast-Death-Ellroy/dp/B0010X7478
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0333445/
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on December 20, 2012, 08:43:37 PM
The closer you are to whomever or whatever, the more you'll feel.
Just 7 months ago (April 2nd) my fiance who I had been with for over 7 years died, so I definitely understand what you are saying here. I'm still fucked up about it, moving from denial as if she somehow faked it all and being completely "meh" numb. But even at my worst this event hasn't changed my views about anything, and I still cannot relate to 95% of the people I see on the media talking about their loved ones who died. Sometimes I feel like I may have some type of psychological problems when I compare myself to these people who are blubbering and crying on T.V. about their 4 year old kids, and I was extremely close to someone for over 7 years and I don't feel like I have the same emotional responses they do. It's odd to me. A grief counselor friend of my family was saying that there could have been a break from something like PTSD and when trying to deny my emotions it made me non-empathetic to anything now, but I don't really believe that shit since I still have other strong emotions. Who fucking knows. It has made me very bitter though, especially towards people who want to complain about breaking up with their significant other, or not being able to pay a water bill on time, I seriously want to kill those people. I'm jealous that I don't just have their problems.
There is something quite morbid in those people who choose to go cry on cameras. What exactly they could achieve? I saw clip in news of some father crying after 5 year old daughter who had been shot. It was repulsive sight. From perspective of media as well as willing people to get their face on TV.
Dislike towards modern media is something I can relate to. Wouldn't mind seeing trash journalist getting what they deserve.
If you don't break down and cry & screech that your life is over, then you're simply not normal. Over-reaction is the new normal. Even better if you need to be medicated because you're nervous about everyday, mundane crap.
Back to true crime. I had never heard of this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cologne_school_massacre
A flamethrower, a mace, & a spear! Almost better than a Model T loaded with rusted farm machinery & TNT.
With regards to the child shootings, I appreciate and identify with Freak Animal's comments.
What do they have to prove or establish by parading themselves in front of the television cameras?
And then week later the community comes out with its "intolerance" towards the media presence.
Which is it that that value more, coverage or privacy?
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on December 20, 2012, 11:15:17 PM
If you don't break down and cry & screech that your life is over, then you're simply not normal. Over-reaction is the new normal. Even better if you need to be medicated because you're nervous about everyday, mundane crap.
Yea, and it seems as though people are far weaker and complaisant now-a-days. Look back at the World Wars as an example, all the men who did come back came back just fine. Now everyone thinks it is OK to kumbaya and thoroughly bring their emotions to the forefront to just cry it out. As if they should embrace their drawbacks and heartbreaks, being fine with playing a victim. And as I had said, it seems as though the worlds outlook has changed so much since WWII. I would never see my Grandfather cry, never see him claim "PTSD", he would never even talk about it. Same with my Uncle who watched his brother die in Croatia or my Father even, who was abused as a child. It's all shit.
Quote from: MikerdeathWhat do they have to prove or establish by parading themselves in front of the television cameras?
Sympathy and attention. It gets far worse from that point on when they seemingly dedicate their entire existence to that one specific event.
Quote from: RyanWreck on December 22, 2012, 08:41:28 AMLook back at the World Wars as an example, all the men who did come back came back just fine.
No.
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on December 22, 2012, 10:27:57 AM
Quote from: RyanWreck on December 22, 2012, 08:41:28 AMLook back at the World Wars as an example, all the men who did come back came back just fine.
No.
Agreed. Sorry Ryan, but that's a massive generalisation brush you've just swept.
People from WWII came back fucked up (cpl of my grandfather's brothers who I did not know were in WWII & were later gambling drunks. Not sure if it was related; my G-father wasn't in the military & didn't drink), some just dealt with it better. Or it could be, you just HEAR less about it. Our grandparents lived much harder lives & they just had to do whatever it was that needed to be done. Today, you don't hear about the success stories, just how bad everything is or how unfair it all is.
Are the people in Newtown complaining about the media? Piers Morgan is squeezing as much as he can out of it!
Quote from: martialgodmask on December 22, 2012, 09:49:13 PM
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on December 22, 2012, 10:27:57 AM
Quote from: RyanWreck on December 22, 2012, 08:41:28 AMLook back at the World Wars as an example, all the men who did come back came back just fine.
No.
Agreed. Sorry Ryan, but that's a massive generalisation brush you've just swept.
Well I am sure there are handful's of vets from that era who do have problems, maybe I should have said that I had never meet any. I worked at the VA for 7 months and had meet a good hundred vets in that short time and there seemed to be an almost rival disconnect between the eras, especially the Vietnam guys and the really old men. The older men seem to keep their shit together and almost look down on counseling and such things. And maybe things differ in other countries, I surely haven't meet any Australian WW2 vets.
Same culture here for men of that generation who went to the war. Don't talk about it. Emphasise the good, de-emphasise the bad. That's how they coped. Those who didn't cope often went without any assistance at all and never talked about it, they just suffered silently. It strikes me more as a generational issue, and the advances made with psychology and therapy since the two world wars.
I've cared for WW2 vets at work and have seen the effect the war had on them. One man, at least, had to cry after there was a news report on the telly about the Iraq conflict, and one of the carers was spouting off about it. When I asked him what was wrong, all he could do was look at me and say "They don't know what war is". I couldn't answer him. He had been in Malaysia during the war and had visited Nagasaki afterwards. I could do nothing for him. And this was one of the more generally cheerful and lucid residents at work, who had no problem talking about his experiences. I think that there are moments for every former soldier when it becomes too fucking much.
In fact, the one US Vietnam vet I have met was pretty pleased to have been to that war. He had a denim vest with all the "Kill 'Em All" patches and the rest and was there to protest against an anti-Iraq war protest, holding up a big US flag. A friend's father was an Aus. veteran of the Vietnam conflict and he seemed pretty pleased about the whole affair as well. But that doesn't tell me that every soldier who was in Vietnam came back happy and satisfied.
In any case - people react to crisis and stress differently and there's no competition about it. The real issue with the shootings is the media coverage, and the fools who consume it like drugs. Fucking normal people love the misery of others and the media is only too happy to oblige.
Isn't it that overall times change people's physical and psychological capabilities. Nowadays people are weaker in both senses though perhaps more intelectual or so. Read any story about the injuries in WW2, scope of the medicine etc. and try to think about yourself in that soldier's etc. place. I don't know. These were at least my thoughts years ago when I had open fracture of the leg and tried to overcome the night without the anesthetics when the Ilisarov's apparatus was installed. I failed.
Anyone seen any updates on the hunt for the female child pornographer...
Quote(http://media.spokesman.com/photos/2012/08/10/Photo_5.JPG)
"The woman could live anywhere in the United States. She is depicted in several videos discovered in June during a child pornography investigation in Colorado.
The videos featured two young girls, estimated to be tween 3 and 7 years old, who were also featured in child pornography seized in Los Angeles in June 2011.
The material found in Colorado appears to be first time investigators could see an adult's face. A man who also is shown sexually abusing the girls digitally obscured his face in the material, making him unrecognizable.
The woman appears to be white, about 25 to 35 years old with a medium building, black to dark brown hair and blues eyes. She has a large mole on the back of her left thigh.
Several of the images were created in February 2010. The material depicts a home “which appears to be of typical North American construction found in several areas of the United States.”
The home has standard North American electrical switches. Agents noted two U.S. Army duffel bags, a U.S. Army poncho liner and U.S. Army desert boots in some of the image. Agents also observed a cardboard box with “Sunkist” written on it and a mattress with “Serta Perfect Sleep” written on it. The book “Animal Tracking Basics” by John Young and Tiffany Morgan is on a nightstand."
More...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2186503/Call-U-S-public-help-identify-Jane-Doe-accused-abusing-young-girls-child-porn-case.html#ixzz23hTRph1g
There have been some screen caps of the 2 kids but I probably shouldn't post those even though they are not graphic. Maybe when they make their rounds on more legit new sites I will link them.
Nothing involving Syria would be good for the Administration. There's no easy solution & it may make him look bad hence no focus.
I saw something on the news last wk or wk before about a woman having sex with a couple of 14 year old boys she met through her son but couldn't find anything online. I didn't see the entire report so details may be wrong. There seems to be more & more women involved with young boys these days.
I would think people putting illegal vids up would blur faces & anything that could identify people or location...
CNN did a poll of 620 people who 'want more gun control' but here's 52,000 would want Morgan GONE. That's kinda funny.
Did you look at all those petitions? Everything under the goddamn sun. They can barely get one thing done let alone stopping geNOcide of white people in other countries & they're definitely NOT going to suspend paycheck/benefits for Congress/President until they get this 'Cliff' business settled.
Quote from: RyanWreck on December 24, 2012, 03:27:00 AM
Anyone seen any updates on the hunt for the female child pornographer...
She and her husband were caught - as was another more recent 'Jane Doe' - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2251793/Corine-Danielle-Motley-FBI-bust-Jane-Doe-child-sex-abuser-just-24-hours-nationwide-appeal.html - Florida, surprise surprise.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2252602/Hunts-Point-Bronx-Chris-Arnade-photographs-New-York-Citys-Red-Light-District.html?ICO=most_read_module (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2252602/Hunts-Point-Bronx-Chris-Arnade-photographs-New-York-Citys-Red-Light-District.html?ICO=most_read_module)
'If I had all the money in the world, I would buy all the crack in the world'
This isn't getting a lot of coverage:
http://video.today.msnbc.msn.com/today/50208495#50208495
Also, there is this video which shows footage of investigators unloading a shotgun, not a rifle, from the trunk of Lanza's car:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOB6tNJ5nTU
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on December 29, 2012, 03:14:49 AM
This isn't getting a lot of coverage:
http://video.today.msnbc.msn.com/today/50208495#50208495
Also, there is this video which shows footage of investigators unloading a shotgun, not a rifle, from the trunk of Lanza's car:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOB6tNJ5nTU
Thank you for sharing, I haven't been paying attention to the news lately.
I do also remember appreciating the slightly underreported fact that he demolished his computers.
I've heard nothing more about the destroyed hard drive & I haven't seen anything about the sole use of handguns. I ran across the link in a comment thread for reason.com on facebook. If you do a google/dogpile search for 'handguns used at sandy hook', almost nothing comes up. The media are not reporting INFORMATION.
It's hard to believe that reporters would not following up on the investigation, they would rather attempt to influence policy making based on hysterical emotions over gun
control.
NOTE: That video link may be from the early reports before they said it was a rifle. Early reporting claimed rifle was left in car & handguns found in school...
Diane Feinstein wants semi-automatic rifles to be classfied the same way as machine guns & grandfathered weapons would be registered with the NFA Branch. They're who handles transfers of machine guns which require a $200 tax so there's no reason to believe that a tax wouldn't be on semi-auto rifles as well despite her site not mentioning it. Yet.
Info is here:
http://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/assault-weapons
A different kind of true crime story, 3 doctors are suspended in Leipzig, Germany because they manipulated a list for patients waiting for liver transplants, to get the livers for the patients quicker. It's possible they took money to do this, but either way I can't say I'd be upset to get a liver faster if I was waiting for a transplant. I'll probably need one when I'm older and my liver has turned into a scarred rock from drinking :(
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-20897840 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-20897840)
Quote from: ConcreteMascara on January 03, 2013, 06:35:49 PM
A different kind of true crime story, 3 doctors are suspended in Leipzig, Germany because they manipulated a list for patients waiting for liver transplants, to get the livers for the patients quicker. It's possible they took money to do this, but either way I can't say I'd be upset to get a liver faster if I was waiting for a transplant. I'll probably need one when I'm older and my liver has turned into a scarred rock from drinking :(
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-20897840 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-20897840)
Not really connected to that, but the black market trade in human organs is a murky area of crime/ruthless capitalism which fascinates me. A very strange story of child trafficking by a 'humanitarian charity' is at http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-20592304 - it's not reported there or in any European media but the President of Chad publicly accused the charity of kidnapping the children for organ harvesting rather than adoption.
From a Rastafarian news source, caveat lector of course: http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/african-children-menaced-by-european-organ-harvesting-charity-agencies-the-zoes-ark-project-by-ogu-eji/
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on December 30, 2012, 12:34:31 AM
I've heard nothing more about the destroyed hard drive & I haven't seen anything about the sole use of handguns. I ran across the link in a comment thread for reason.com on facebook. If you do a google/dogpile search for 'handguns used at sandy hook', almost nothing comes up. The media are not reporting INFORMATION.
It's hard to believe that reporters would not following up on the investigation, they would rather attempt to influence policy making based on hysterical emotions over gun
control.
NOTE: That video link may be from the early reports before they said it was a rifle. Early reporting claimed rifle was left in car & handguns found in school...
Diane Feinstein wants semi-automatic rifles to be classfied the same way as machine guns & grandfathered weapons would be registered with the NFA Branch. They're who handles transfers of machine guns which require a $200 tax so there's no reason to believe that a tax wouldn't be on semi-auto rifles as well despite her site not mentioning it. Yet.
Info is here:
http://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/assault-weapons
Can you post more on this when you hear/find more?
"How Many People Have Been Killed by Guns Since Newtown?
Slate partners with @GunDeaths for an interactive, crowdsourced tally of the toll firearms have taken since Dec. 14."
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/crime/2012/12/gun_death_tally_every_american_gun_death_since_newtown_sandy_hook_shooting.html
Quote from: ConcreteMascara on January 04, 2013, 12:31:04 AM
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on December 30, 2012, 12:34:31 AM
I've heard nothing more about the destroyed hard drive & I haven't seen anything about the sole use of handguns. I ran across the link in a comment thread for reason.com on facebook. If you do a google/dogpile search for 'handguns used at sandy hook', almost nothing comes up. The media are not reporting INFORMATION.
It's hard to believe that reporters would not following up on the investigation, they would rather attempt to influence policy making based on hysterical emotions over gun
control.
NOTE: That video link may be from the early reports before they said it was a rifle. Early reporting claimed rifle was left in car & handguns found in school...
Diane Feinstein wants semi-automatic rifles to be classfied the same way as machine guns & grandfathered weapons would be registered with the NFA Branch. They're who handles transfers of machine guns which require a $200 tax so there's no reason to believe that a tax wouldn't be on semi-auto rifles as well despite her site not mentioning it. Yet.
Info is here:
http://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/assault-weapons
Can you post more on this when you hear/find more?
You mean more about the assault weapon bill? Just watch the news, it'll be coming soon I'm sure.
10 new gun control bills: http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/house/275587-10-gun-bills-introduced-in-first-day-of-the-house
Wow, can't believe this video is still on Youtube...
The "fake" Video of a Chechen Man slitting Woman's throat turns out to be real: (Video in link)
http://redhotrussia.com/chechen-man-slitting-throat/
Yeah, I saw part of Alex Jones last night while flipping through the channels. Jones sounds like a nutcase but, I'm guessing, it's all an act for infowars.com i.e. $$$.
Some of his comments were pretty funny.
I remember people talking about Jones a lot back when the ATF were hanging out around here.
http://www.infowars.com/alex-jones-best-night-of-television-ever/
http://www.infowars.com/ (a whole bunch of shit about the interview)
http://www.infowars.com/piers-morgan-guests-turn-in-your-guns-or-we-will-kill-you/
"liked" Alex Jones on facebook & he's LOVING all the attention from Piers Morgan!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jan/10/klaus-kinski-rape-claims-daughter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2cSMePU9n4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2cSMePU9n4)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CzQi40MKbc
This is interesting:
http://www.infowars.com/prominent-rifle-manufacturer-killed-in-mysterious-car-crash-days-after-posting-psych-drug-link-to-school-shooters/
I've watched a lot of this guys gun videos:
http://www.secretsofthefed.com/breaking-man-behind-fpsrussia-youtube-channel-found-dead/
Quote from: tiny_tove on January 11, 2013, 12:11:59 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CzQi40MKbc
Picked up the term "hippy scum" around the twelve minute mark, but that's about all I can understand.
Extra footage of the med. examiner taking unaired ?'s about the Newtown shooting:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMPS4--s9e0&feature=player_embedded
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=eKDT7XwgMMo
The video claims Sandy Hook was a hoax pulled off by FEMA. Something I find interesting is the screenshots the video has of a victim's facebook page created the day before the shooting but now says Dec. 15th & the posts highlighted in the video are no longer on fb. Here's the link to the victims page:
https://www.facebook.com/#!/RIPEmilieParker?fref=ts
The same is true of one of the teachers; screenshots of comments asking why the pg. was created before the shooting but have since been removed & now the pg. shows it was created on Dec.15th.
It would be absolutely AMAZING if this turns out to be true! One of these days, someone has to come up with an off-the-wall conspiracy that has to be real, right?
After watching the video, I realize that I saw someone on CNN talking about the section claiming photos of an alleged victim were taken with the President after the shooting. Also questioning how the alleged parents are not showing their grief properly. There's also a Florida Professor claiming this whole thing was pulled off with crisisactors.com who locked their site soon after. I wonder if any of the conspiracy reporters checked Newtown CT newspapers for obituaries or tried to attend funerals?
A cleaning woman has stolen an empty commuter train in a suburb of Stockholm and crashed it into a house, injuring herself, Swedish officials say.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21030211 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21030211)
I caught an interview with David Wheeler & his wife whose son was shot in Sandy Hook. They were interviewed on a set made up to look like a classroom with blackboard & desk and, for some reason, the sound of something running int he background. You could hear all the reverb & feet movement on the wooden floors too. Really shoddy. The wife keeps looking at her husband like she can't believe he's talking, just staring at him. No crying at all. Definitely unlike any interview I have ever seen with parents of a murdered child. It was on Rachel Maddow's show:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/ns/msnbc_tv-rachel_maddow_show/#50464224
I think I would have thought it was odd even if I didn't know anything about the hoax theories. Maddow claims she cries at the drop of a hat but no tears shed here (that I saw).
Godlikeproductions, a conspiracy forum place with a heavier than average gun rights activist user base, was pinning a lot of the mysterious Sandy Hook anomalies within a week of it happening. Strange stuff indeed, my own favourite was the mention of Sandy Hook in the latest Batman film that James Holmes shot up the Aurora theatre at while people were at the premiere, then the death of the Newtown CT guy who put that Sandy Hook reference into the movie in a car crash last September...this is from vague memory of reading weird synchronicity-riddled headfuck material and I may be wrong.
A nice Jimmy Savile Satanic panic piece is at http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/370439/Jimmy-Savile-was-part-of-satanic-ring which is (or was) a mainstream UK paper, not a tabloid rag. Have mentioned the mysterious Valerie Sinason on this forum before.
Quote from: HongKongGoolagong on January 16, 2013, 02:53:10 AM
A nice Jimmy Savile Satanic panic piece is at http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/370439/Jimmy-Savile-was-part-of-satanic-ring which is (or was) a mainstream UK paper, not a tabloid rag. Have mentioned the mysterious Valerie Sinason on this forum before.
It comes as no surprise that Valerie Sinason would jump on this. Hopefully this brings back the SRA craze! Or, maybe it never went out of style in the U.K.? I was excited when Scott Peterson tried to claim that Satanists cut open Lacy's stomach to remove the fetus for use in satanic rituals, but nobody bought it and the hoopla I'd hoped for never materialized.
There's a nice video uploaded just in time for the UK Satanic Panic revival of Valerie Sinason's close associate Vera Diamond at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APcahiSveTg - this from the '92 Channel 4 documentary that got Genesis P-O expelled from the UK. Nice 'reconstruction' acting job. Maybe she's in therapy now recovering memories.
The big shock for me with Savile has been the very recent naming of the late Ray Wyre (a Tim Tate associate) as part of an organised abuse ring. Probably by lunatics, but still. Enthusiasts for this hysterical and bizarre material should internet search for "Mary Moss" and NAYPIC.
More UK Satanic Panic redux: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-12703785 and http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-20705898
The US may have more gun crimes than the UK but, at least, we don't have sexually abusive satanic cults!
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on January 16, 2013, 10:22:45 PM
The US may have more gun crimes than the UK but, at least, we don't have sexually abusive satanic cults!
Well not anymore.....so 80's
The US has the most intense rape case this side of Delhi right now in Steubenville. http://localleaks.blogs.ru/ by some very moralfag anons has some amazing information - it all reminds me of a Tom Wolfe novel.
Quote from: HongKongGoolagong on January 17, 2013, 12:56:21 AM
The US has the most intense rape case this side of Delhi right now in Steubenville. http://localleaks.blogs.ru/ by some very moralfag anons has some amazing information - it all reminds me of a Tom Wolfe novel.
Oh yeah. I kept meaning to look all that up but kept forgetting. The protest footage of the Anon idiots in their masks is ridiculous.
I saw something about a woman who stabbed her future husband to death (I think) & there are some tasty lookin' nude photos of her I saw on Nancy Grace. Photos were censored which, I think, make them more interesting.
BBC : "It can't get worse than Sandy Hook"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-21037654
Its been written about over and over for a few months now. Its old news. If they want to frame the issue now as the worst possible crime imaginable, then I would simply state that they have a small and ignorant imagination if they believe in such propaganda, and furthermore the worst is yet to come.
I love this story
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2013/jan/17/women-relationships-police-spies-victory
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2013/1/17/1358431219299/Mark-Kennedy-010.jpg)
this guy's googly eyes remind me of my dog :P
saville outrage
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4754933/BBC-shows-Savile-act-on-the-Tweenies.html
http://www.iol.co.za/news/south-africa/lesbian-couple-guilty-of-gruesome-murder-1.270415#.UP0k-Gesl8E
young woman in Philly was burned alive. This shit happened right down the street from my friends house, in the nice part of Philly. What the fuck
http://mobile.philly.com/news/?wss=%2Fphilly%2Fnews%2Fbreaking%2F&id=187784661&viewAll=y#more (http://mobile.philly.com/news/?wss=%2Fphilly%2Fnews%2Fbreaking%2F&id=187784661&viewAll=y#more)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/jan/22/footballers-sex-assault-trial-brighton
Quote from: Eloy on January 06, 2013, 01:28:43 PM
"How Many People Have Been Killed by Guns Since Newtown?
Slate partners with @GunDeaths for an interactive, crowdsourced tally of the toll firearms have taken since Dec. 14."
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/crime/2012/12/gun_death_tally_every_american_gun_death_since_newtown_sandy_hook_shooting.html
that's just body counts.
Quote from: KMusselman on January 28, 2013, 10:56:35 PM
JonBenet Ramsey grand jury voted to indict parents in 1999, but DA refused to prosecute
http://www.coloradodaily.com/ci_22446410/boulder-grand-jury-voted-indict-ramseys?source=most_emailed#axzz2JJ1IDi3t
My girlfriend is possibly writing a paper for some silly, post-modern gender class about child beauty pageants and pedophilia (at my suggestion) and she's just discovered that poor Ms. Ramsey was born a year to the day after she was. That really highlighted the age difference between us in a startling way.
Edit: Her professor didn't let her do the Jonbenet thing. I really wanted to get her to cite Sotos.
Quote from: ConcreteMascara on January 22, 2013, 04:39:06 PM
young woman in Philly was burned alive. This shit happened right down the street from my friends house, in the nice part of Philly. What the fuck
http://mobile.philly.com/news/?wss=%2Fphilly%2Fnews%2Fbreaking%2F&id=187784661&viewAll=y#more (http://mobile.philly.com/news/?wss=%2Fphilly%2Fnews%2Fbreaking%2F&id=187784661&viewAll=y#more)
Woah, how did I not hear about this, I have been in Philly a year and its been a weird time.
http://reason.com/blog/2013/01/31/missouri-man-gets-three-years-for-posses
Incest comics
Looks like a politically motivated assassination to me: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-21313208
From my home town, yet another horrific murder - http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/feb/02/blackpool-murder-victim-stabbed-fire - know someone who knew her and says she was an OK girl, what a horrible senseless way to die so young. That end of town has always been rough.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjnrLt3VuSM
Quote from: HongKongGoolagong on February 03, 2013, 07:38:28 PM
Looks like a politically motivated assassination to me: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-21313208
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Precisely what I thought when I first heard about this, but now I'm not so sure what the motive was. It could be that the military/government didn't like him talking about killing people in cold blood so openly and unabashedly, fearing it may lead to muslim outrage or something. I hope more information is forthcoming.
Quote from: tiny_tove on February 05, 2013, 10:37:45 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjnrLt3VuSM
This guy is my new hero. POPO!!
Finally, something GOOD out of Africa!
Babyraping is ok but don't eat shit, it's not good for Africa.
Here's a PRO Gun Control murderer:
http://gunssavelives.net/blog/former-lapd-spree-killer-left-manifesto-calling-for-more-gun-control-another-criminal-support-gun-bans/
This link has more of his manifesto:
http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/lapd-spree-killers-full-manifesto-showing-support-for-gun-co?utm_campaign=socialflow&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=buzzfeed
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/07/christopher-dorner-manhunt-los-angeles_n_2638023.html
"Mr. Dorner's politics are...inconvenient though, so let's not mention them. " (from Huffington Post comments)
I just saw a report on CNN about this guy. They mention his manifesto & that "he reached out to them" along with a couple of excerpts but didn't
mention his pro-gun control rant at all. Sounds like his motivation is simply that he was fired from the police force.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on February 07, 2013, 10:50:20 PM
Here's a PRO Gun Control murderer:
http://gunssavelives.net/blog/former-lapd-spree-killer-left-manifesto-calling-for-more-gun-control-another-criminal-support-gun-bans/
This link has more of his manifesto:
http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/lapd-spree-killers-full-manifesto-showing-support-for-gun-co?utm_campaign=socialflow&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=buzzfeed
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/07/christopher-dorner-manhunt-los-angeles_n_2638023.html
"Mr. Dorner's politics are...inconvenient though, so let's not mention them. " (from Huffington Post comments)
I just saw a report on CNN about this guy. They mention his manifesto & that "he reached out to them" along with a couple of excerpts but didn't
mention his pro-gun control rant at all. Sounds like his motivation is simply that he was fired from the police force.
He kind of looks like a fat LL Cool J. I wonder if his momma said shoot them up?
I can see this being big in gun control/mass murder conspiracy circles.
A link to the full manifesto - http://hiphopandpolitics.wordpress.com/2013/02/07/uncensored-manifesto-from-retired-lapd-officer-christopher-dorner/
Quite a bizarre story to say the least.
The news said the manifesto was 11 pages long. Pretty nutty, to say the least. I bet he's already offed himself...
Fan page:
https://www.facebook.com/ChristopherDornerOfficial
Quote from: HongKongGoolagong on February 08, 2013, 07:20:53 AM
A link to the full manifesto - http://hiphopandpolitics.wordpress.com/2013/02/07/uncensored-manifesto-from-retired-lapd-officer-christopher-dorner/
It begins...
Quote
Mayor McCheese
FEBRUARY 7, 2013 @ 11:55 AM
Yeah, no one tampered with this and inserted a bunch of anti gun crap in the manifesto...they would never do that!!
A child could have done a better job of editing for effect.
Supposedly this is the cops' version of events - http://leaksource.wordpress.com/2013/02/07/christopher-dorner-v-lapd-case-file/
I guess we all know how the police work and that his version of events is more plausible. Doesn't stop him from being hilarious and tragic in equal measures. Shooting people to protest against the 2nd Amendment and with Ellen DeGeneres in his thanks list - only in California.
The video of the alleged victim of police brutality's video testimony is here: http://leaksource.wordpress.com/2013/02/08/christopher-dorner-investigation-documents-deposition-legal-papers-challenging-lapd/
His testimony was considered "too inarticulate and un-credible" to be used as evidence, although I don't really see how. I think they also brought up that he claimed he was only kicked once, which was inconsistent with Dorner's complaint, though the first time the lawyer asked about the kicks, he asked him how many times he was kicked in the face, which is entirely consistent with Dorner's claim that Evans kicked him twice in the chest or shoulder, and once in the face. The second time he said he was kicked only once, he was probably still thinking of the kick to his face. He should have been asked if he was kicked in the chest or shoulder as well. Fucking hell.
When I first read Dorner's "manifesto", for the first paragraph or two I was struck by how normal he seemed, but reading on, his repetitions of the same points, sometimes the same sentences, over and over again clearly show that he was cracking up. And then all his messages for celebrities and politicians clearly indicate some kind of manic state. Still, it kind of makes you think that it had all just started out as a kind of just regular discussion of his case, and thinking back on those events made him break down as he was writing it, but it seems that he was appealing the decision of the court until late 2011 or thereabouts. That, and the fact that he sent the package to Anderson Cooper in advance shows that he was planning this for a while. He also must have been trailing and gathering intelligence on his targets for some time, as is evident in his "manifesto".
I really hope he can keep it up for a while, and maybe send out some further communications. Although it's a really sad story, it's also highly entertaining and it would be a shame for it to be over so quickly.
http://www.examiner.com/list/christopher-dorner-off-the-record-i-love-your-new-bangs-mrs-obama
I'm not the only person who thinks that Dorner looks like LL Cool J, but they do all look alike.
Some good stories on NBC Los Angeles right now:
http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Hutchinson-Report-Christopher-Dorner-LAPD-Allegations-190551791.html
http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/LAPD-to-Re-Open-Case-into-Fugitive-Christopher-Dorners-Termination-190555681.html
http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Timeline-Ex-LAPD-Officer-Suspected-in-Shooting-Spree-Had-Sued-The-Department-190206031.html
http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Christopher-Dorner-La-Palma-LAPD-Officer-Murder-Plot-Shootings-190431831.html
http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Police-Who-Shot-Women-Mistaken-ID-Leave-190413671.html
The only new info I've heard is that 2 rifles with 'silencers', night vision goggles, & cold weather gear were found inside the burned truck. Seems like stuff you'd need, at least, the suppressed rifles. It'd be nice if it's all part of some huge plan along with leaving drivers license when trying to steal the boat.
I find the allegations against the LAPD hard to believe. They have such a sterling reputation!
I think leaving the stuff behind in the truck and the drivers license thing were definitely part of a plan to throw cops off. I read that they're estimating that he might have as many as thirty guns on him post-truck fire, so I guess he must have stolen another automobile? He's probably back in L.A. already, having spread out their resources all around. That, or maybe he's dead.
The LAPD is supposedly reopening the case against him, though they say it's only to demonstrate that they are upright and open, and that Dorner was fired justly. Still, he said the killings would stop if they did those things. Excited to see where this will wind up, or down, I guess.
Two Manifestos Conspiracy: http://freedomguide.blogspot.ca/2013/02/the-two-manifestos-of-christopher-dorner.html
I like that his 'proof' is that Dorner, in the supposed second manifesto, attacks Obama detractors for questioning Bam's "judeo-christian beliefs" whilst declaring in the first manifesto that he himself is definitely not a fucking christian.
WHOA!!!
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2013/02/manhunt-christopher-dorner-big-bear.html
http://www.tmz.com/2013/02/12/chris-dorner-cornered-manhunt-murder-big-bear/
I guess he's probably dead now. Oh well, I'll have to wait for the next one.
EDIT: Confirmed Dead - http://ktla.com/2013/02/12/cabin-dormer-believed-to-be-holed-up-in-on-fire/#axzz2KkB45NSN
This video has audio of cops talking about burning the cabin down, they've been saying that the gunshot heard inside the cabin must have ignited the tear gas a la Waco. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNk-bV40XMc
http://hollywoodlife.com/2013/02/12/chris-dorner-dead-shot-killed-police-sniper-cabin-fire-big-bear/
The LAPD is saying that the burnt out cottage is still too hot and nothings been confirmed yet.
Interesting development. Here are the transcripts of the case.
http://pastebin.com/Pm6Jz5Bq (http://pastebin.com/Pm6Jz5Bq)
Nothing's confirmed yet though. Anyways, it was interesting to listen and watch live tonight
It must have felt crazy sitting across from the police command post or whatever you call it while the search went on for days on end. I wonder how they managed to miss him so close to them, AND the burnt out truck. I guess he wasn't really throwing them off with all of that - it seems he was trying to get to Mexico until word went out that that was where he was headed. I guess I'd probably fumble and bumble in a situation like that on account of my nerves, but he really seems to have over sold himself in that facebook message. Hopefully more info about this is coming, because I don't want it to end yet.
I saw this on a google news search last night on a website called "Occupy Law Enforcement" or something silly like that, but it was password protected. Unfortunately, I don't think this guy will go on a shooting rampage, and he looks absolutely nothing like LL Cool J.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobileweb/2013/02/12/joe-jones-manifesto-christopher-dorner_n_2670513.html
If the universe were a person, or maybe if I was a pantheist, this would be a crime against humanity! So, that asteroid should be fun: http://m.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/hundreds-hurt-as-meteorite-strikes-central-russia/article8711190/?service=mobile
Twitter comments & videos of the meteor:
http://twitchy.com/2013/02/15/amazing-photos-and-video-hundreds-injured-after-meteor-lights-up-the-sky-over-russia/
I saw some excellant footage on CNN & Fox. I love sonic booms!
Yeah, excellent footage around, but lots of hoax videos too. I guess the meteor/meteorite (maybe) was unrelated to the asteroid.
Back on topic: that "Bladerunner" cyborg athlete guy from South America murdered his girlfriend. When he first made headlines, I got to thinking that athletes would undergo elective amputations for that competitive edge, and maybe I'd start being interested in sports.
very interesting
I saw a movie on the subject but I ignored its extents:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/feb/19/magdalene-laundries-ireland-apologise-survivors
there was something similar in my hometown where ex prostitutes were forced to work and never leave the place although most of them freely applied to live there.
Quote from: KMusselman on February 19, 2013, 09:14:52 PM
New photos, details emerge of Newtown mass shooter Adam Lanza
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/photos-details-emerge-newtown-mass-shooter-adam-lanza-124951161.html
I saw something about the school being chosen because it would have the most 'clustered victims' which, sort of, backs up what the gun nuts have been saying about Gun Free Zones. I find it interesting that the article says the AR-15 is 'believed' to be used in the shooting. You would think they'd know for sure by now . There were photos of the LA copshooter's weapons before his body cooled down but there are no photos of Lanza's weapons...
The Elisa Lam case is creepy. 21 year old Canadian girl takes a solo trip to Los Angeles, stays in a sleazy downtown hotel and is found dead in the water tank. The CCTV footage of her in the elevator checking she isn't being followed is weird and sad - http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57570625-504083/elisa-lam-case-water-in-la-hotel-tank-with-dead-body-wont-cause-illness-police-say/
I'm tired of hearing about the fucking Blade Runner of South Africa. Only interesting thing about it is whether he put his legs on first before shooting her.
?? !! ??
This is too sad - and good to be true!
(http://www.france24.com/en/files/imagecache/aef_ct_wire_image_lightbox/images/afp/photo_1361802129767-1-0.jpg?1361810862)
http://www.france24.com/en/20130225-batman-joker-child-killer-claims-no-choice-0 (http://www.france24.com/en/20130225-batman-joker-child-killer-claims-no-choice-0)
mass murder in Luzern
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21601323#TWEET630414
and related VERY interesting article regarding gun control in Switzerland
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-21379912
Is there anyone on the forum in Switzerland with one of the SIG beauty's in his home? Would love to see a photo.
from the BBC article Marco posted above
"Street gun violence is very rare in Switzerland, says Emma Jane Kirby, who recently investigated the subject for BBC News. However, there are more domestic homicides and suicides with a firearm in Switzerland than virtually anywhere else in Europe except Finland, she says."
hahaha
http://nametheproblem.tumblr.com/
Quote from: ConcreteMascara on February 27, 2013, 07:15:15 PM
from the BBC article Marco posted above
"Street gun violence is very rare in Switzerland, says Emma Jane Kirby, who recently investigated the subject for BBC News. However, there are more domestic homicides and suicides with a firearm in Switzerland than virtually anywhere else in Europe except Finland, she says."
hahaha
there are not many dometisc homicides in Switzerland at all. more in the German part, but not many.
most murders in this area are street-violence related or committed by profugees/immigrants, but they are not many as well. definitely increasing since some years ago where nothing happened. new generations are very much into gansta culture and there seems to be a strong fascination with blades.
Keith I can ask to my colleagues at lunch break, but from what I have head I thing they are all in the "civil protection" alternative service, so no weapons.
Every now and then I see kids in camo carrying their gun home on the train, will try to take some snaps with my mobile if it happens again.
SIG makes beautiful rifles: http://www.sigsauer.com/Catalog/rifles.aspx
I use to own one of their handguns in .357 Sig caliber (9mm bullet in a .40S&W casing) but ammo was too expensive so traded it for something else.
I'd love to see this in Switzerland: http://vimeo.com/54892632 (not true crime related & you need to watch it all or, at least, till they get to the steep/tight switchbacks).
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/world/indonesian-mum-kills-son-over-penis-size-20130228-2f94r.html (http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/world/indonesian-mum-kills-son-over-penis-size-20130228-2f94r.html)
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on March 02, 2013, 10:27:17 AM
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/world/indonesian-mum-kills-son-over-penis-size-20130228-2f94r.html (http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/world/indonesian-mum-kills-son-over-penis-size-20130228-2f94r.html)
"She told police investigators that she killed him as he would have a bleak future with his small penis," Rikwanto said.
Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/world/indonesian-mum-kills-son-over-penis-size-20130228-2f94r.html#ixzz2MULQTRWS
the grim truth?
The thing that I found most bothersome looking at that MALE VIOLENCE page is the sprinkling of spelling and grammatical errors. I perhaps need to re-assess my life!
It doesn't matter. The President will be signing the Violence Against Women Act into law soon so 'namethatproblem' will have to find a new problem to tumbl about. VAWA is sure to end violence against women, lgbt, native americans, pretty much everyone except boys and men.
QuoteMale violence is so normalized, we don't even use the word "male" to describe it. It's just violence.
Goddess forfend...
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4830815/Christina-Edkins-16-who-was-knifed-to-death-on-bus-on-her-way-to-school-was-worried-by-a-fellow-traveller-weeks-ago.html
Quote from: tiny_tove on March 08, 2013, 10:01:11 AM
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4830815/Christina-Edkins-16-who-was-knifed-to-death-on-bus-on-her-way-to-school-was-worried-by-a-fellow-traveller-weeks-ago.html
Quite big news in the UK...at least, quite a bit of coverage of it. Like most UK current affairs as of late, I've not really paid much attention so don't know the ins and outs of it all, but I initially heard about it via a friend who used to drive that bus on that route.
"Recommended" link on that article - http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/news/4828619/Lesbian-poses-as-boy-to-seduce-teenage-girls.html
"A TEENAGE girl who had sex with a cross-dressing lesbian only found out her partner was a woman when cops broke the news.
The youngster was one of two 15-year-olds who fell for Christine Wilson, 25, after the predator seduced them by posing as a boy.
Warped Wilson claimed she was a 16-year-old lad called Chris before luring the victim into a fraudulent sexual relationship. She made sure she slept with the youngster, who was a virgin, under the covers so her sordid secret would not be exposed."
that was a classic!
anything involving cross-dressed related crimes interests me...
Very strong deja vu, I remember reading about some a similar case in the UK a few years ago. I think I'll have to dig through this thread and see if it was posted.
Quote from: ConcreteMascara on March 08, 2013, 06:09:06 PM
Very strong deja vu, I remember reading about some a similar case in the UK a few years ago. I think I'll have to dig through this thread and see if it was posted.
I'm pretty sure you're thinking of the case of some woman (teenage girl?) in the UK (England?) who was living as a teenage boy and dating a handful of unsuspecting girls...possibly had "intercourse" with a few of them. Case is a year or two max old.
GO USA!
Meth, sex, murder.
http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news%2Fiteam&id=9020345 (http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news%2Fiteam&id=9020345)
Quote from: locustfurnace on March 08, 2013, 07:02:39 PM
Quote from: ConcreteMascara on March 08, 2013, 06:09:06 PM
Very strong deja vu, I remember reading about some a similar case in the UK a few years ago. I think I'll have to dig through this thread and see if it was posted.
I'm pretty sure you're thinking of the case of some woman (teenage girl?) in the UK (England?) who was living as a teenage boy and dating a handful of unsuspecting girls...possibly had "intercourse" with a few of them. Case is a year or two max old.
Yeh, there was a BBC or Channel 4 documentary about it. No idea if it's online or owt, though saying that I don't remember it being very good anyway.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-21715473
Hardly a shocking discovery/announcement, could be interesting where the story goes. Or if it will be stifled quickly?
Quote from: online prowler on March 08, 2013, 07:30:44 PM
GO USA!
Meth, sex, murder.
http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news%2Fiteam&id=9020345 (http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news%2Fiteam&id=9020345)
Were #1.
Thanks Tinilove for that article about the woman being stabbed to death on the bus, Ive been thinking about that one all day.
I saw something the other day on CNN about a couple plus another male, maybe, who had sex on top of the corpse of their murder victim. Seems like it took place in Illnois. They billed the case as necrophilia but never said anything about sex WITH the corpse. Emphasis was mostly on the female.
Short update on the Luka Magnotta case. Apparently the defense is trying to get the media banned from the proceedings.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-21747563 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-21747563)
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on March 09, 2013, 09:59:55 PM
I saw something the other day on CNN about a couple plus another male, maybe, who had sex on top of the corpse of their murder victim. Seems like it took place in Illnois. They billed the case as necrophilia but never said anything about sex WITH the corpse. Emphasis was mostly on the female.
yeah. this happened in a town called Joliet, Illinois- about 40 minutes south of chicago. the three who were charged lured 2 black guys to their place, strangled them, and left them there on the floor for a few hours. the girl then told her boyfriend that one of her biggest sexual fantasies was to have sex with dead bodies, so they all fucked on top of the two corpses (no sources indicated there was sex with the actual corpses). a local chicago news source covering the story divulged almost a play by play of how it happened, including the girls testimony, saying that when they started fucking on the two dead guys, the air was pushed out of their lungs, creating what she described as a "zombie groan". she also described how both corpses released their bowels during the sex.
Quote from: ConcreteMascara on March 11, 2013, 09:39:50 PM
Short update on the Luka Magnotta case. Apparently the defense is trying to get the media banned from the proceedings.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-21747563 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-21747563)
Yeah, it seems he's trying to keep his medical records mum or something. He does have a fairly feminine figure, at least in his pornography work that I've seen, which is admittedly a small fraction. Kinda suspect he was a hermaphrodite who under went gender reassignment surgery in his youth, or something similar, even before this attempted gag order came to light.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/mar/12/man-charged-murder-christina-edkins
in Belgium:
investigating the contact between Swedisch 'artist' Angelina Elander (http://angelinaelander.blogspot.be/ (http://angelinaelander.blogspot.be/)) and Kim De Gelder before Kim committed his crimes
(http://s8.gva.be/ahimgpath/assets_img_gvl/2010/04/07/979734/zweedse-aanbidster-kim-de-gelder-wordt-toch-nog-ondervraagd-id1120666-515x350.jpg)
for those not familiar with Kim :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dendermonde_nursery_attack (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dendermonde_nursery_attack)
Quote from: P-K on March 12, 2013, 08:42:51 PM
in Belgium:
investigating the contact between Swedisch 'artist' Angelina Elander (http://angelinaelander.blogspot.be/ (http://angelinaelander.blogspot.be/)) and Kim De Gelder before Kim committed his crimes
(http://s8.gva.be/ahimgpath/assets_img_gvl/2010/04/07/979734/zweedse-aanbidster-kim-de-gelder-wordt-toch-nog-ondervraagd-id1120666-515x350.jpg)
for those not familiar with Kim :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dendermonde_nursery_attack (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dendermonde_nursery_attack)
It's a puzzle - she would seem to be possibly the kind of artist who would pull this as a prank/project, but every entry on the blog has her comments under another profile saying that it is the work of a malicious imposter.
New York's 'Cannibal Cop' fetishist aka "Girlmeat Hunter": http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/there_are_simply_no_words_sCiYMs2jY1mh7mu8Qj5r3H
Quote from: humanpulp on March 12, 2013, 01:27:09 AM
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on March 09, 2013, 09:59:55 PM
I saw something the other day on CNN about a couple plus another male, maybe, who had sex on top of the corpse of their murder victim. Seems like it took place in Illnois. They billed the case as necrophilia but never said anything about sex WITH the corpse. Emphasis was mostly on the female.
yeah. this happened in a town called Joliet, Illinois- about 40 minutes south of chicago. the three who were charged lured 2 black guys to their place, strangled them, and left them there on the floor for a few hours. the girl then told her boyfriend that one of her biggest sexual fantasies was to have sex with dead bodies, so they all fucked on top of the two corpses (no sources indicated there was sex with the actual corpses). a local chicago news source covering the story divulged almost a play by play of how it happened, including the girls testimony, saying that when they started fucking on the two dead guys, the air was pushed out of their lungs, creating what she described as a "zombie groan". she also described how both corpses released their bowels during the sex.
Someone sent me a link about this case:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2284890/Joliet-murders-Teens-3-way-sex-bodies-men-strangled.html#ixzz2MHNXu4ei
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/mar/20/police-missing-children-new-procedure
respect
V
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4852227/Is-that-V-for-villains-Ron.html
Kannibalkult leader escapes from PNG prison
http://www.asiaone.com/News/AsiaOne%2BNews/Crime/Story/A1Story20130324-410966.html
alcholic looser murder friend
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/mar/25/horror-film-fanatic-jailed-murder
Ecstacy Snorting Hooker Bites John's Balls Off
http://www.i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm?link_id=83735
QuoteRussia moves to criminalize Holocaust denial
The Russian lower house has received a new bill suggesting up to five years in prison for publicly denying the Holocaust or portraying Nazis as heroes.
The sponsor of the bill is Boris Shpigel, an Upper House member who recently submitted his resignation after being elected president of international rights group 'World without Nazism,' as Russian laws do not allow senators to hold leading posts in foreign or international organizations.
The new bill suggests amending the Criminal Code article on inciting hatred or humiliation of human dignity. The current draft would criminalize the rehabilitation of Nazism, portraying Nazis or their aides as heroes, Holocaust denial and also humiliating the dignity of individuals or groups on the basis of gender, race, ethnicity, language, background, religion or belonging to a social group. These offenses would be prosecuted if committed in public or in mass media.
The amendments would punish such crimes with fines ranging from 100,000 to 300,000 rubles (from $3,300 to $10,000), correctional labor for up to two years or, in severe cases, prison terms of up to two years. If the crime is committed through abuse of office or together with threats of violence, the fines are raised to 500,000 rubles (under $17,000) and a maximum prison term of five years.
Russian law mandates punishment for inciting racial and ethnic hatred, and Nazi movements are outlawed in the country. However, these norms have not been formalized into a single legislative act. Last May, the Parliamentary Assembly of the Russian-led Commonwealth of Independent States (CIS) political bloc approved a model law aimed at countering the glorification of Nazism, prioritizing mandatory punishment for such crimes.
Russian law enforcement has also noted a rise in nationalist sentiment in society, and called for rapid approval of laws to combat this threat.
The CIS model law also suggested the establishment of a special body to counter the rehabilitation of Nazism, which would inform society about the problem and present annual reports. However, this provision was not included in the Russian bill.
http://rt.com/politics/denial-holocaust-criminalize-moves-russia-853/ (http://rt.com/politics/denial-holocaust-criminalize-moves-russia-853/)
Quote from: tiny_tove on March 25, 2013, 03:34:05 PM
alcholic looser murder friend
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/mar/25/horror-film-fanatic-jailed-murder
The movie the killer likes so much is awful.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/mar/27/brazilian-doctor-investigated-hospital-deaths
http://m.theage.com.au/victoria/superglue-poured-in-mans-eyes-and-ear-20130402-2h3rh.html
The prosthetic leg comment takes the cake!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22008559 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22008559)
'Monsignor Meth' - 61 year old Priest pleads guilty to selling meth
http://www.thisisderbyshire.co.uk/Mick-Philpott-Mairead-Philpott-Paul-Mosley-guilty/story-18542150-detail/story.html#axzz2PKrLbjGX
A reasonably lengthy case has just come to a close today, where two parents and their friend have been found guilty of manslaughter of their six children as a result of setting their own home on fire. Numerous denials and numerous story changes have been reported on but a verdict has been reached at last.
Local newspaper/website ThisisDerbyshire have kindly uploaded a number of secret recordings, as well as a full 6min+ recording of their 999 call, which can be found @ http://www.thisisderbyshire.co.uk/Audio-secret-recordings-Mick-Mairead-Philpott/story-18587585-detail/story.html#axzz2PKrLbjGX
Not sure how long the recordings will remain online, but there's nothing stopping anyone from saving copies, just in case...
Quote from: martialgodmask on April 02, 2013, 10:33:57 PM
http://www.thisisderbyshire.co.uk/Mick-Philpott-Mairead-Philpott-Paul-Mosley-guilty/story-18542150-detail/story.html#axzz2PKrLbjGX
A reasonably lengthy case has just come to a close today, where two parents and their friend have been found guilty of manslaughter of their six children as a result of setting their own home on fire. Numerous denials and numerous story changes have been reported on but a verdict has been reached at last.
Local newspaper/website ThisisDerbyshire have kindly uploaded a number of secret recordings, as well as a full 6min+ recording of their 999 call, which can be found @ http://www.thisisderbyshire.co.uk/Audio-secret-recordings-Mick-Mairead-Philpott/story-18587585-detail/story.html#axzz2PKrLbjGX
Not sure how long the recordings will remain online, but there's nothing stopping anyone from saving copies, just in case...
The father, Mick Philpott, apparently has previous convictions for knife-crime against former girlfriends.
All the coverage, including photo galleries, articles and the aforementioned recordings have been compiled @ http://www.thisisderbyshire.co.uk/philpotttrial#axzz2K6DoDyPH
Not sure if this has been mentioned here or not, but it should be. Best revenge fuck ever?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/02/steven-smith-death-sentence_n_2996518.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular
The Loved Ones being blamed for a murder is truly ridiculous. It's a really silly, campy and enjoyable tumblr generation film but about as sinister as Child's Play 3, and no-one would blame that for a crime ;)
Interesting to see Ovenden go down. I was very much torn during the trial, knowing how pissed off the Met were with him yet weighing up how difficult it would have been to get, what was it, four witnesses perjuring themselves? I think pretty much it seems like he did overstep the mark and take liberties with his models quite a bit all those years ago. The Through A Glass Darkly series (published first by the police according to him in his trial) sounds very intriguing from a forensic kind of viewpoint: a cheap and lazy Biblical excuse/reference in the title. For that sort of thing, he's better than the nauseating and saccharine David Hamilton, not as good as Jock Sturges whose photographs can take your breath away. It's a limited kind of art. Lord Alistair McAlpine is his biggest collector apparently. It was his cousin Jimmie who liked the Welsh boys and golf.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4874597/john-shearen-arrest-worlds-number-one-distributor-child-abuse-images.html
Quote from: Jordan on April 03, 2013, 02:50:21 AM
Not sure if this has been mentioned here or not, but it should be. Best revenge fuck ever?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/02/steven-smith-death-sentence_n_2996518.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular
"Smith, known to consume as many as 12 beers a day, had had several beers earlier in the evening and had a blood-alcohol content of .123 — well above the legal limit — when he was tested almost eight hours later, at 11 a.m., records show."
12 beers a day? That's supposed to be some large amount, shocking to the conscience? You've got to be fucking kidding me.
Yeah, it always amazes me what passes for "binge drinking" these days.
Most dangerous city: San Pedro Sula, HondurasQuoteSan Pedro Sula, Honduras, has been given the unfortunate title of the most dangerous city in the world. The data was compiled by Citizen Council for Public Security, Justice, and Peace, a Mexican think tank focusing on crime statistics from the Western Hemisphere. The city tops the list for the second year in a row. Photographers Jorge Cabrera of Reuters and Esteban Felix of Associated Press spent time with with local police and in emergency rooms documenting the violence at the end of March 2013. They captured arresting scenes of death, fear, pain, and grief. San Pedro Sula has a homicide rate of 169 per 100,000 people. Laws allow civilians to own up to five personal guns. Arms trafficking has flooded the country with nearly 70 percent illegal firearms; 83.4 percent of homicides are by firearms, compared to 60 percent in the United States.
http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2013/04/most_dangerous_city_san_pedro.html
Mass stabbing/cutting:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57578668-504083/texas-college-stabbing-at-least-12-people-injured-in-stabbing-at-lone-star-college-report-says/
The news is reporting the cutter may have used a boxcutter & could be deaf- he was seen to regularly carry around a stuff animal on campus.
torture porn
http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/news/4879340/Cruelty-beyond-belief.html
cult figure
http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/article/veselin-vlahovic-sentenced-to-maximum-penalty
I killed 11 babies for money rituals ...Confession of 20-yr-old ex-cultist
http://www.osundefender.org/?p=97715
Explosions at the Boston Marathon RIGHT NOW! Injuries reported new finish line...
Just saw footage of a guy in a wheelchair with, at least, one leg blown off below the knee. A cop said there are people 'blown apart'. No word if this is a crime or something like a gasline explosion.
http://reason.com/blog/2013/04/15/explosions-at-boston-marathon-finish-lin
Seems like terrorism.
EDIT: I guess I spoke too soon, one news story I read said two explosions were ' detonated', which made it seem intentional to me.
Report is now that there were 2 explosions, one on each side of the street.
People can't even be bored at a fucking marathon without some asshole fucking the day up. Jeez.
A couple unexploded devices have been found somewhere along the marathon route.
Two reported dead so far.
Third explosion at Jfk library. I heard they were evacuating it about an hour ago, I'm not sure if that was before or after the explosion. If the evacuation was before, I guess they had advance knowledge? Probably after I guess.
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/904130_10151404895828811_1179896666_o.jpg
Not a lot has been said about the library; one thing was that it may be unrelated. I haven't heard anything about any injuries or deaths nor anything about the library being evacuated. Not much was said during the press con.
Alex Jones:
http://www.infowars.com/eyewitness-authorities-announced-drill-before-boston-explosions/
I heard about the evacuation on CNN like 20 minutes after I first heard the news. Probably an hour later I heard about the explosion.
UPDATE: I guess it was an unrelated fire. Oh well, the fog of terror and all that.
UPDATE 2: I guess they're saying explosion again, and that they're not sure if it's related.
Call this a terrorist attack? It's some kids or cranks with a tiny bit of acetone peroxide. The IRA we grew up living with could have made a bigger bang in their sleep.
In other crime news the details on this press release are rather lurid: http://www.fbi.gov/newyork/press-releases/2013/manhattan-u.s.-attorney-and-fbi-assistant-director-in-charge-announce-kidnapping-conspiracy-charges-against-massachusetts-veterans-affairs-police-chief-and-former-new-york-city-high-school-librarian
Asch brought to the April 15 meeting two bags of tools intended to be used in the kidnapping, rape, torture, and murder of UC-3, including, but not limited to, a Taser gun, rope, a meat hammer, duct tape, gloves, cleaning supplies, zip ties, a dental retractor, two speculums, 12-inch skewers, pliers, a wireless modem, and a leg spreader.
The Boston Globe is reporting that no unexploded bombs were found, but the New York Times,or maybe it was the Post is quoting an unnamed source from the Boston police as saying there were four bombs. Press conference in fifteen minutes.
Quote from: HongKongGoolagong on April 16, 2013, 03:44:28 AM
Call this a terrorist attack? It's some kids or cranks with a tiny bit of acetone peroxide. The IRA we grew up living with could have made a bigger bang in their sleep.
In other crime news the details on this press release are rather lurid: http://www.fbi.gov/newyork/press-releases/2013/manhattan-u.s.-attorney-and-fbi-assistant-director-in-charge-announce-kidnapping-conspiracy-charges-against-massachusetts-veterans-affairs-police-chief-and-former-new-york-city-high-school-librarian
Asch brought to the April 15 meeting two bags of tools intended to be used in the kidnapping, rape, torture, and murder of UC-3, including, but not limited to, a Taser gun, rope, a meat hammer, duct tape, gloves, cleaning supplies, zip ties, a dental retractor, two speculums, 12-inch skewers, pliers, a wireless modem, and a leg spreader.
HA! That's the least of the VA's troubles. That Government agency can't get
anything done correctly!
More Boston conspiracy:
http://www.infowars.com/eyewitness-authorities-must-have-known-about-bombing/
It's interesting that only Jones' sources 'hear' or 'see' things that no one else does before something awful happens...
I'm surprised Infowars didn't link Boston with Waco:
http://reason.com/blog/2013/04/16/nbcs-luke-russert-im-just-speculating-on
Jones is entertaining.
Many people over here sees him as a trustable freedomfighter who is more reliable than David Icke... see how we are reduced in Italy
"I killed him, treacle"
Very detailed bleak and depressing tale of a pointless murder by vile excuses for human beings - http://www.romfordrecorder.co.uk/news/crime-court/three_convicted_of_murdering_harold_hill_teen_luke_harwood_1_2022120
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/apr/18/teenager-convicted-raping-girl
Not sure if it has been posted but here is the Abortion Serial Killer:
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/witness-gosnells-filthy-abortion-clinic-floor-had-dried-blood
http://3801lancaster.com/
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on April 18, 2013, 11:16:44 PM
Not sure if it has been posted but here is the Abortion Serial Killer:
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/witness-gosnells-filthy-abortion-clinic-floor-had-dried-blood
Ha, the anti-abortion brigade are out in ridiculous "force" on the comments, best thing I've read this evening!
MIT Shooting going on RIGHT NOW (Thur April 18, 10:20 MST)
Streaming police scanners:
http://audio2.radioreference.com/446184308
and..
http://www1.whdh.com/video/7newslive
Dead cop. Possible secondary devices were just reported.
As if America didn't already have issues with firearms.
*EDIT* Damn it, it's all done. Was anyone else able to catch that live stream I posted while it was happening? That shit was intense.
The scene right now..
http://i.imgur.com/Pjpl1xE.jpg
more BOSTON
MIT shootings & explosions
MIT's emergency feed: http://emergency.mit.net/emergency/ (http://emergency.mit.net/emergency/)
This stuff better get resolved soon or I'll die of sleep deprivation. Goddamned Chechen terrorists.
There's a youtube video a couple of news channels has run of the shoot-out. The woman says "there's explosions and gunfire down the street". All of it sounds like gunfire to me, no exploding bombs but maybe she hadn't started recording yet.
The Uncle is funny. I like how he was pretty much yelling at everyone. "They're LOSERS". haha
I didn't expect it to end up like this. Figured someone would turn them in & they'd get arrested quietly. I bet Alex Jones is having a field day...
Police scanner:
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/ma-rt-9-window-cam
I thought for sure that he would go down in flames but one of these is likely: a) he's ultimately a coward and couldn't turn the gun on himself b) out of ammo, fuck! or c) passed out from massive blood loss
Stuff like this really brings out the conspiracy theorists. They disgust me in the same way that religious people disgust me. Their ramblings can be entertaining though
Yeah, I was hoping for one final boom but would have preferred him getting ripped apart by cop bullets. Now a shitload of more money gets to be spent on him.
One thing I want to know is why the cops didn't use dogs to track him down from the blood, sweat, etc. he left in the car he abandoned?!? Surely there was plenty of scent for dogs to follow.
I think he was too bloodied up to do anything, at least that's what the photos of him in the ambulance led me to believe.
Glenn Beck seems to be having a field day.
That is fucking brutal. It's amazing the death toll was not higher. That sequence of photos was shown on CNN minus the last 3.
I heard yesterday that the FBI figured out who the bombers were from a photo of the brothers walking away calmly while everyone else in the photo were clearly reacting to the bomb going off.
There's some excellent footage of the tear gas bombs hitting the boat.
Scheisse indeeed, but it'll look good in the hollywood movie .. I'm seeing Gwyneth in the role ...
It seems unlikely she wouldn't know something but one reporter said she worked 7 days a week (he stayed home w/the kid) & I'm guessing he built bombs elsewhere as their apartment is suppose to be really small. Maybe she isn't the brightest bulb in the box or he was really good at hiding what he was doing.
I want to know where they tested the bombs. Even if they used internet instructions, you have to test them out beforehand esp with a timer. Has anyone heard what firearms they had?
You mean they're guilty?
Quote from: Steve on April 24, 2013, 09:45:27 PM
You mean they're guilty?
Kind of hard to say they're not when one brother was killed in a gunfight with the police in the street with unexploded pipebombs but maybe his brother just went along for the ride & knew nothing but then he did take off in a stolen vehicle & is seen on video setting down a backpack right near the soon-to-be-blownup-8-year-old-kid. Still, could be a false flag conspiracy by The New World Order to pass stricter control on citizens...
How long before more anti-AR15 nonsense starts up? It was kind of funny listening to the President throw a tantrum in the rose garden when the gun control bill didn't pass.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on April 24, 2013, 10:24:53 PM
Still, could be a false flag conspiracy by The New World Order to pass stricter control on citizens...
No.
I'm not directing this at you, just more of a general comment, but why does EVERY major news event have to have a conspiracy behind it? Honestly, every goddamn big news event has an extensive government conspiracy behind it? I guess dreaming up conspiracy theories and believing in them makes life more interesting. Seems to me that a lot of people want to believe that there's a shadowy figure(s) behind all these major events and that things are going according to a plan (sounds similar to religion and belief in god, huh?) The thought that random, chaotic things can happen is too much for some people to handle and they want to believe that everything is unfolding according to a plan. It's a very childish mindset when you think about it.
I'm not saying all conspiracy theories are false, just a
vast majority of them. It's a flawed way of thinking that has completely run amok. The simplest explanation for something is usually the correct one, and conspiracy theories involving multiple layers of government and media outlets isn't exactly simple.
Actually it is a conspiracy if the two brothers talked about and planned the attack together.
http://memoryholeblog.com/2013/04/22/witnessing-bostons-mass-casualty-event/
I believe in the "3 can keep a secret if 2 are dead" adage. And I don't think the Government could pull off such things without fucking it all up. But maybe fucking things up is intentional so that I think that they can't pull of such events...
I am not a conspiracy theorist, but for me, the value of conspiracy theory lies in inspiring critical thinking.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/apr/28/girl-forced-pregnant-donor-semen
Chilean 'cult leader' Ramon Castillo found dead in Peru
Police in Peru say they have found the body of the alleged leader of a Chilean cult accused of burning a newborn baby alive last November.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-22377160 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-22377160)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/may/02/stuart-hall-sex-offender
more bbc debauchery
Head of US air force sexual assault prevention unit charged with groping
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/may/07/us-airforce-officer-charged-groping
Hope this turns into a serial killer case:
http://www.newsnet5.com/dpp/news/local_news/cleveland_metro/Cleveland-police-dispatch-Missing-teens-Amanda-Berry-and-Gina-DeJesus-found-alive
Just goes to show you never really know your neighbors...
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on May 07, 2013, 07:11:20 PM
Hope this turns into a serial killer case:
http://www.newsnet5.com/dpp/news/local_news/cleveland_metro/Cleveland-police-dispatch-Missing-teens-Amanda-Berry-and-Gina-DeJesus-found-alive
Just goes to show you never really know your neighbors...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Qbv7vGthUQ
ahahh total genious, looks like a character of Cleveland show
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4919089/kidnap-neighbour-saw-naked-girls-wearing-dog-leashes.html
I'm hoping this girls all give interviews, long detailed interviews. Seems like they could potentially be prime source material for Grunt or Wertham?
Quote from: ConcreteMascara on May 08, 2013, 05:24:15 PM
I'm hoping this girls all give interviews, long detailed interviews. Seems like they could potentially be prime source material for Grunt or Wertham?
ahha split?
I paid only very mild attention to Amanda Knox- no clue if she had anything to do with the murder. I saw an interview with her last week & remember thinking she seems 'odd' based on some mannerisms but I can't remember what they were.
The Cleveland kidnapping case doesn't sound like it'll turn into a serial killer case. One thing I keep thinking, is why the hell would ANYONE want to keep up with three kidnapped women?!? Just seems like too much work.
I read tons of shit a few years ago when the first Amanda Knox trial was going down and I am pretty much 100% convinced that she was guilty and the Italian legal system just fucked the whole thing up. As it was years ago I don't remember where I read all of these things but there was some pretty suspect evidence, like her and her boyfriend going to the only general store in the town, and buying bleach, gloves, and a mop the day after it happened, shop owner didn't have a record of the purchase as it was with cash however. Also there was some fairly convincing DNA evidence on the weapons, but the police messed up while collecting it or something. I don't know I think drug fueled orgy murder is what happened and her rich parents lawyers managed to talk her out of it initially.
Quote from: tiny_tove on May 07, 2013, 11:39:24 AM
Head of US air force sexual assault prevention unit charged with groping
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/may/07/us-airforce-officer-charged-groping
Great story!
Pretty confident the US air force and Entire military establishment will eradicate all the sexual assaults before the years end.
Not really true crime but an interesting follow up story:, these are the people who control our nuclear missiles:
Air Force strips 17 officers of nuclear watch command (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22457265)
There's been some good stuff on the Cleveland Sex Monster: his basement was a dungeon; one woman was impregnated then forced to abort 5x in a kiddie pool; his daughter from ex-wife said he would disappear from family dinners for 30 min or so w/no explanation along with saying that "there is no monster in our blood" concerning other family members; friends said he wouldn't let them in the house beyond one room; he was extremely abusive to his ex-wife; and the Monster himself has said he's a 'cold-blooded sex addict'... Hopefully more sordid details will be coming soon.
Hope some photos of inside the home are released!
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on May 11, 2013, 01:12:20 AM
There's been some good stuff on the Cleveland Sex Monster: his basement was a dungeon; one woman was impregnated then forced to abort 5x in a kiddie pool
At first I dismissed this story but it is definitely turning into quite an ordeal. Will have to keep an eye on it.
I just like to read this. Fuck mothers day.
Shooting at US Mother's Day parade in New Orleans (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22506029)
The statement said 10 men, seven women, a 10-year-old boy and a 10-year-old girl were wounded by gunfire.
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/p480x480/24796_346481842197_2067182_n.jpg)
RIP
Luciano Lutring "the machinegun solo-player" inspired many flicks on crime in Milan.
The last of the gentlemen criminals.
Met him twice in Milan, definitely cult figure...
http://www.modernghana.com/news/463263/1/ghanaian-attacks-passers-by-with-pickaxe-in-italy-.html
There's already a PE tape by Swallowing Bile about Geofrey Portway :
http://www.mommyish.com/2013/05/07/geoffrey-portway-plotted-to-rape-murder-eat-children/
The PE: http://swallowingbile.bandcamp.com/
he looks like my best friend!!! separated at birth!
Maybe I should have put this in PC Faggotry, 'cause it's exactly true crime...
A prominent Japanese politician has described as "necessary" the system by which women were forced to become prostitutes for World War II troops.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-22519384 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-22519384)
I have to admire the Japanese Far Right for never admitting fault in WWII, or even half of the war crimes committed by Japan, before and during the War. Holocaust Deniers could learn a thing or two from their uncompromising position.
Anyone pay attention to the 8 year old girl in California that was stabbed to death in her home by 'an intruder' her 12 year old brother saw running out of the house? I figured he did & it was announced yesterday that he has been arrested.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/leila-fowler-brother-arrested-fatal-stabbing-year-california/story?id=19162330#.UZJ_zawo6M8
Some vintage:
The sister of one of the Oakland County Child Killer's victims has a blog at http://catherinebroad.wordpress.com/ which has some pretty amazing information proving serious incompetence in the investigation at least, and an outright cover-up at worst - disquieting reading when connections are made with what happened with the 'tax-deductable KP' wealthy/protected abuse ring based on North Fox Island in the 70s.
The case does attract many kooks. On the topix thread about this (on the Jon Benet board) I saw references to how Dennis Cooper may have met some of those involved in Amsterdam in the late 80s when the major players were in exile with changed names. All rather overheated and overimaginative but really fascinating hidden history there. God knows what some of these people would make of this forum.
A man in his 60s has shot himself in front of a dozen children at a nursery school close to the Eiffel Tower in Paris, French officials say.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-22551126 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-22551126)
Quote from: HongKongGoolagong on May 16, 2013, 05:34:58 AM
Some vintage:
The sister of one of the Oakland County Child Killer's victims has a blog at http://catherinebroad.wordpress.com/ which has some pretty amazing information proving serious incompetence in the investigation at least, and an outright cover-up at worst - disquieting reading when connections are made with what happened with the 'tax-deductable KP' wealthy/protected abuse ring based on North Fox Island in the 70s.
The case does attract many kooks. On the topix thread about this (on the Jon Benet board) I saw references to how Dennis Cooper may have met some of those involved in Amsterdam in the late 80s when the major players were in exile with changed names. All rather overheated and overimaginative but really fascinating hidden history there. God knows what some of these people would make of this forum.
Crazy find! Thanks.
Another French-related story:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/21/notre-dame-suicide-evacuated_n_3312888.html
Now all we need is a mass shooting at the Louvre.
Beheading: One Shot Dead By Police After Help For Heroes Man Attacked With Machete And Dumped In Street....
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/05/22/woolwich-police-shooting-machete_n_3319793.html?utm_hp_ref=uk
"Two blacks behead and hack to death a white, serving-soldier in broad-daylight in the capital of our nation. Multicultural enrichment at work. Rivers of blood. "
From the comments on the above link.
SCUM
We don't want you, we don't need you...
Hard to imagine the levels of fanatical bravery it took for them to attack the soldier in broad daylight then wait twenty minutes for the armed police response knowing their certain death was coming and give an interview in the meantime. I wish the unedited footage was available to hear what he said in full.
As terrorists go, these guys chose a much more appropriate target than the Boston bombers.
EDIT: both apparently still alive but in hospital. Certain living death coming for them then.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4938855/Pluck-of-cub-leader-who-challenged-Woolwich-terrorist-who-wanted-to-start-war-on-the-streets-of-London.html
Audio recording (http://youtu.be/hGhcFd7rbbw) of an eyewitness in Woolwich attack.
I was watching some document piece about situation in Kongo. It was being asked why ongoing war with 10 million bodycount doesn't make to papers, while cases like this, or the boston, will make headlines in just about every media around the world. You got the mandatory nazi document coming every week (or should I say day?) on TV channels, but Kongo? Who cares? Of course it is news, while situation in kongo is just business as usual.
And curiously, I didn't watch the raw footage clips before, but the man appears to say exact same. This happens in their countries all the time and nobody gives a fuck. Don't know or much even care what those men wanted and where they originally came from, but maybe type "UK interests in Congo" ......
edl drunk mob attack mosquees
http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/the-edl-threw-bottles-around-in-woolwich-last-night
Attackers were British, born of Nigerian descent and Muslim converts from Christianity according to what we are being told. So 'our countries' would simply mean Islamic states according to them. The Sun has more of the clip in which they talk about 'David Cameron won't be killed, it will be you' and there is the amusing sight of an old lady passing by oblivious with a shopping trolley.
I first became aware of the worldwide apparent cover-up/ignorance of the situation in the Congo from Mark Manning and Bill Drummond's book 'The Wild Highway' published by Creation after Penguin rejected it due to supposedly racist content. Deaths all over that area of West Africa, Sierra Leone and Ivory Coast as well as the DRC, are mainly related to the trade in coltan, the mineral used in computers and mobile phones. Highest number of deaths in any conflict since WW2, absolutely dwarfing any middle east stuff, and we don't hear about it.
Yep, the congo situation is something I come across quite often, but certainly like said, just look at what world needs and you find it in Congo. Be it slaves, ivory, coltan, whatever. Situation is something that can't be solved, unless rest of the world wants to pay things what they are really worth. Until then, it's best to keep chaos and bloodshed going on, and exploit situation to maximum. It's certainly repulsive in levels of hypocrisy.
At least in Finland, EDL's chapter - naturally called "FDL", is one of the absolute worst. Utmost zionist, and to call them "fascist" seems very clueless. But perhaps the EDL's strategy promotes this confusion. But in some ways, it's kind of heart warming to read about mob agitation in front of pub, getting people ready to create social disorder, hah...
I guess the reason why Congo is reminded, is due situation or mining industry in Finland. Our laws allows any multinational corporation simply claim their rights to do business. They promise few jobs, and that it. State requires no %, no special tax for this "service". So any foreign big company can come, take all what the soil of Finland has to offer and walk away. Leave accepted amount of pollution of ruined earth behind them. When you get conclusion that despite supposedly representing civilized west, our mining laws are "worse than Congo", you tend to hear about it a bit more...
I feel that some people will pay, eventually. They will claim on ignorance or "bad decisions", but I hope for settlement in blood.
So much horror goes on in Africa, you'd need another 24 hour news channel devoted to covering it all.
Quote from: HongKongGoolagong on May 22, 2013, 11:04:21 PM
As terrorists go, these guys chose a much more appropriate target than the Boston bombers.
25 year old lad, unarmed and minding his own business to or from work. Are you absolutely sure about that?
It just reminds that conflicts of modern age can't be restricted, but countries engaging into war, exploitation, etc won't leave these problems there - but bring them home with them. There's pretty good article about difference of old times, when countries had defined enemy. They'd have the disagreement, even war, but eventually binding contract could be made by two parties. Enemies, who still played the game. Now, there is no more well defined enemy, and you can't make any kind of deal. You go to war, and all you must provide is ultimate annihilation, to make sure the enemy is all gone or unable to stand up. But even then, when there is no more defined "enemies", enemy simply is the unexpected man in your own neighborhood.
Quote from: HongKongGoolagong on April 03, 2013, 03:35:17 AM
Interesting to see Ovenden go down.
Ovenden had described himself in court as a modest man, but told police he had a "major reputation" for creating "some of the best portraits of children in the last 200 years".
He also declared himself one of the "two or three great printers" in the world. But the court heard his portraiture formed part of a ruse for abusing girls.Following his conviction, the Tate gallery removed images of his work from its online gallery, and also removed access to his work in its galleries.
Someone opened blogsbot site to host images, though. Called "notintate" or something like that.
Quote from: theotherjohn on May 25, 2013, 04:17:46 PM
Trevor Brown has a good roundup of posts relating to Graham Ovenden: http://www.pileup.com/babyart/blog/?p=1498
Having read up on that stuff and even seen an example of the 'Through a Glass Darkly' series I was quick to pass misinformed judgement on, I think he's been set up.
Some light relief:
Woman confesses to practising witchcraft and owning 10 goblins http://bulawayo24.com/index-id-news-sc-national-byo-30722.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/jun/07/teenager-raqped-11-girl-life
"We saw a woman get shot in the head"
Old news now but a good story:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22823290
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/jun/17/ian-brady-mental-health-tribunal?CMP=twt_fd
still looking for an existential alibi
"Ian Brady considers his crimes as an "existential exercise" which were petty compared with the crimes of soldiers and politicians in war."
classic!
"There was a period where Ian Brady was thought to be listening to white noise through headphones while being force fed... doctors initially wondered if he was listening to white noise to block of auditory hallucinations, but decided it was not the case."
Ian Brady has appeared in public at a mental health tribunal to try and be sent back to the prison system from special hospital.
Some interesting press quotes from the hearing so far I found:
The panel was told that Brady in the 90s had correspondence with a woman who claimed to be a reincarnated Nazi, and told a visitor that he could "change the laws of psychics" (sic - presumably the widely discredited journalist who is reporting Paul Britton meant physics) and "walk through locked doors at night".
The tribunal has heard from Dr James Collins, a consultant forensic psychologist who is Brady's responsible clinician at Ashworth, who goes through previous reports relating to Brady. In one, Brady admitted that he does not have control over his thoughts and said he was being controlled by green beings. Brady is reported to have said: "I am being controlled by external things."
One incident is described where Brady was said to have been listening to 'white noise' through headphones whilst being fed. The tribunal is told it could have been to block out hallucinations
There is a possibility the last report above is actually describing a nurse overhearing Whitehouse album - to my knowledge he was extremely infuriated by Peter Sotos's afterword to Janus and would have surely demanded to know more about this person who was impugning his writing and 'existential exercises'.
Quote from: HongKongGoolagong on June 19, 2013, 01:48:12 AM
to my knowledge he was extremely infuriated by Peter Sotos's afterword to Janus and would have surely demanded to know more about this person who was impugning his writing and 'existential exercises'.
yes he was I confirm... I think he wanted to sue feral house for something... but personally I think Peter was correct in anything he said...
Gates of janus is VERY interesting, especially when he discuss other serial killers, but when he talk about himself he shows all his problems.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/20/nyregion/2-accused-of-trying-to-create-a-weapon.html?_r=0 (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/20/nyregion/2-accused-of-trying-to-create-a-weapon.html?_r=0)
"In April 2012, the authorities said, an industrial mechanic walked into a synagogue in Albany and announced his intention to build a weapon that could help Israel kill its enemies while they slept. He wanted to know if anybody would provide financial backing. Turned away, prosecutors said, he sought money from another source: a leader in the Ku Klux Klan in North Carolina."
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/484791/20130630/russian-teenagers-behead-decapitate-homeless-man-football.htm
Pretty interesting story about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Tel_Aviv_gay_centre_shooting (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Tel_Aviv_gay_centre_shooting)
During years people were "terrified" about this homophobic crime while Gaul Shanon a few days ago, confessed that he raped a younger brother of the shooter. here is some more:
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4393222,00.html (http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4393222,00.html)
and another thing:
http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/newshome/17800543/qld-boys-horror-raised-by-global-pedophile-ring/ (http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/newshome/17800543/qld-boys-horror-raised-by-global-pedophile-ring/)
QuoteThe boy was "adopted" by American Mark J Newton who lived in Brisbane and Cairns with his Australian boyfriend, Peter Truong.
Such was the extent of the abuse, the boy, who will be called Adam for legal reasons, grew up believing the abuse and exploitation was a natural part of his daily existence.
Maggots kept rotting woman alive
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/trending/Maggots-kept-rotting-woman-alive.html (http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/trending/Maggots-kept-rotting-woman-alive.html)
People in the Chicago take July 4th celebrations to the extreme:
http://www.examiner.com/article/12-men-killed-55-wounded-chicago-gun-violence-during-the-4th-of-july-weekend
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2013/jul/07/brazilian-referee-decapitated-stabs-player
die gangsta die
http://anonym.to/?http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/brazilian-rapper-mc-daleste-shot-581767
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQwyHXzKkBE&feature=player_embedded
http://www.cvltnation.com/13-terrifying-real-life-kid-murderers/#more-85294
https://sites.google.com/a/spectrumhr.org/www/hot-news-1/russianlgbtteenspubliclybulliedandtorturedbyneonazisonvideolocallawenforcementcondoneshomophobia
So are there any adults in the video? All I've seen are teenagers and teenagers were fighting all the time for anything. So this time it's "sexual preference", caught on camera and it's against the human rights, but chechens beating skinhead goes to "funnies" etc. Today Lithuania is a proud country, we have gay parade in the main boulevard! We'll see how it goes. I think nothing will happen, but the police forces are on high alert.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1jUykynsKE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1jUykynsKE)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5C5Hml5zDkw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5C5Hml5zDkw)
http://www.heavy.com/news/2013/08/derek-medina-wife-killer-burn-notice/
http://www.timescolonist.com/news/world/two-teens-face-child-pornography-charges-in-case-of-rehtaeh-parsons-1.572891
Quote from: tiny_tove on August 09, 2013, 10:34:42 AM
http://www.heavy.com/news/2013/08/derek-medina-wife-killer-burn-notice/
http://www.latimes.com/features/books/jacketcopy/la-et-jc-florida-murder-suspect-derek-medinas-awful-selfpublished-books-20130809,0,1887602.story
Can any American explain why it's always Florida that provides the most bizarre or extreme crime stories?
Do you want to move on down to Florida?
I'm guessing it's the goddamn humidity.
There's been this Weird Florida or something series on Slate recently that's pretty good. I haven't seen a new one in a while, so maybe it's done, but there were about 90 installments.
An album of photos from inside the Ariel Castro house:
http://imgur.com/a/6PLZL
Quote from: HongKongGoolagong on August 10, 2013, 12:08:12 AM
Can any American explain why it's always Florida that provides the most bizarre or extreme crime stories?
Tons of retirees, difficult to find work there and the community couldn't a fuck since they don't need to work anymore, the heat and humidity, every City and town is basically a collection of strip malls, fast food chains and tourist shops, the immigrants, southern Florida is fucking dirty, etc. I haven't been there in 2 years though, but generally when I was going there every summer these seemed to be the ruling negative aspects of the state. I'm sure there are redeeming qualities outside of Death Metal and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers but I can't think of any off the top of my head.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on August 09, 2013, 08:43:45 PM
http://www.timescolonist.com/news/world/two-teens-face-child-pornography-charges-in-case-of-rehtaeh-parsons-1.572891
I'm glad something actually came of this- this took place in the city where I live and a lot of people I know knew the girl. It's surprising that they actually laid charges to be honest, didn't seem like it would ever happen.
Watched a docu about this string of child murders by 'The Babysitter Killer' in Detroit in the late '70s:
https://mylifeofcrime.wordpress.com/2012/02/08/unsolved-serial-killings-oakland-county-child-murders-the-babysitter/
http://www.clevescene.com/cleveland/the-babysitter-killer/Content?oid=1498422
I've been running across police interview videos of Israel Keyes on a news channel the last day or so. I don't remember hearing about him last year but I like that he burglarized homes to fund his hobby of murder:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_Keyes
A squalid and messy public murder - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-23486509
And this story brought to life by a blog from someone who knew him - http://malignantnarcissism.blogspot.co.uk/2013/07/ty-medland-convicted-murderer.html - really depressing reading.
you are right, quite depressive story
cheer up with this story that started sad and turned positive
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/rapist-discovers-victim-had-hiv-110612503.html#WZ9dhM6
Quote from: RyanWreck on August 10, 2013, 06:06:31 AM
An album of photos from inside the Ariel Castro house:
http://imgur.com/a/6PLZL
Ariel Castro found dead in prison cellhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2410898/Ariel-Castro-Cleveland-kidnapper-dead-prison-hanging-cell.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2410898/Ariel-Castro-Cleveland-kidnapper-dead-prison-hanging-cell.html)
http://www.metalinsider.net/crime/necrophobic-vocalist-sentenced-to-prison-for-spousalchild-abuse
Attacked his daughters with a bullwhip. Read parts of the interrogation with one of the daughters. Not very uplifting.
http://malignantnarcissism.blogspot.co.uk/2013/07/ty-medland-convicted-murderer.html
Says you have to be invited to read it...
Miserable as in not that interesting...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2417572/Geoffrey-Portway-dungeon-First-pictures-torture-dungeon-British-man-planned-rape-murder-eat-children-beneath-Massachusetts-house.html
Incredible dvd collection!
Seems like if the solution to gun crime is more laws that regulate law-abiding buyers then the same would work for the regulation of the internet, digital cameras, cellphones, & computers to make it more difficult to find/distribute kp. Everyone that buys a pc or a digital camera needs to undergo a Federal/State/Local background check for sex crimes, etc.
MC Killah P got MC Killed, yo! (http://www.vice.com/en_se/read/the-golden-dawn-murdered-an-antifascist-rapper-last-night)
Kenyan soldiers claim to find scenes of torture by mall terrorists
They say children found dead in food fridges with knives still in bodies
Men were said to have been castrated and had fingers removed
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2434278/Kenya-mall-attack-torture-claims-emerge-soldiers-Eyes-gouged-bodies-hooks-fingers-removed.html
Brutal! I didn't pay a lot of attention to the going's-on in the mall. I did see some footage of the collapsed parking garage on tv & thought a huge bomb went off. I'd think some photos from the inside should show up eventually...
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2013/09/27/mall-victims-tortured-maimed-in-al-shabab-attacks/2882299/
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/sep/30/british-nurse-charged-cannibalism-investigation
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/24/california-police-kill-boy-rifle
Quote from: Si Clark on October 24, 2013, 03:45:23 PM
Quote from: tiny_tove on October 24, 2013, 09:54:59 AM
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/24/california-police-kill-boy-rifle
As this sort of thing seems to happen a lot in the US I was curious about what the usual sort of outcome is for these cases? If the police involved can show there was a potential threat to themselves do they get let off? From what I've read from this story it kind of seems fair enough, not that he died obviously, but if he's walking around with a fake AK-47 you really don't want to raise that up to a policeman when they tell you to drop the gun and have their gun pointed at you.
I think the standard route of action is to delay proceedings until everyone other than the victims family forgets and then give the police their old positions back, full pay for the inconvenience of the time off.
Also - as the story notes, officers were BEHIND the child. They basically shot him in the back without even knowing he was a kid, it just looked like he raised the gun
"The subject turned toward the deputies, and as he was doing that the barrel of the weapon was rising toward the deputies," Henry said. The deputy then fired rounds, killing the boy."
That's right there in the article.
Here's an article that mentions an eyewitness who says something different:
http://www.ktvu.com/news/news/local/dozens-march-remember-boy-killed-deputies/nbXRH/
Cops need to start wearing Go-Pro cameras. It can only help them. Whether it shows exactly what they say happened or stops them from being assholes. And helps to convict them when they are assholes.
cop who pepper sprayed protestors at uc davis received a $38,000 settlement for "psychological damage" awarded by worker's compensation laws.
Maybe he should have thought, perhaps pepper spraying a group of people is a bad idea. I don't know.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-24650954
Geeks turn violent
Tinkerer "armed" revolution
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/oct/25/suspected-3d-printer-gun-found-manchester
Quote from: Mikerdeath on October 25, 2013, 03:49:08 AM
cop who pepper sprayed protestors at uc davis received a $38,000 settlement for "psychological damage" awarded by worker's compensation laws.
Maybe he should have thought, perhaps pepper spraying a group of people is a bad idea. I don't know.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-24650954
It worked out well for him so it wasn't really all that bad of an idea.
To nicely coincide with Martin Bladh's upcoming book:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2485804/Fury-murderer-Dennis-Nilsens-pornographic-book-published-online.html
Extracts here:
http://dennisnilsen.blogspot.co.uk/
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on October 25, 2013, 08:32:17 PM
It worked out well for him so it wasn't really all that bad of an idea.
He got very lucky because the defense lawyers representing Uc Davis chose to take his lawyers settlement offer instead of taking him to court.
Capitalism at its utmost finest.
http://survivinginnumbers.tumblr.com/
Quote from: tiny_tove on November 11, 2013, 04:09:02 PM
http://survivinginnumbers.tumblr.com/
it seems like everyone is getting raped these days
I think it's amusing that rape victims try to turn their merely surviving following the incident into some sort of victory, like they won over the perpetrator even though they suffered unalterable psychological trauma and faced and/or continue to face difficulties following their abuse for years, often from close friends and families.
lets get back to some good old fashioned murder.
woman pleads guilty to stabbing 3 men to death and leaving their bodies in ditches.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/11/18/joanna-dennehy-guilty-murder-men_n_4295026.html?utm_hp_ref=uk (http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/11/18/joanna-dennehy-guilty-murder-men_n_4295026.html?utm_hp_ref=uk)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-24987953 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-24987953)
http://www.fox19.com/story/24014955/federal-judge-grants-stay-of-execution-in-missouri
Joseph Paul Franklin
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on November 20, 2013, 03:01:30 AM
http://www.fox19.com/story/24014955/federal-judge-grants-stay-of-execution-in-missouri
Joseph Paul Franklin
Never heard of this guy. Surprising only by the fact that he killed 20 people in racist attacks and most big serial killers from the US have lots of crappy documentaries about them (most of which I have wasted my time watching) but don't remember hearing anything about this guy.
Quote from: Si Clark on November 20, 2013, 04:07:41 AM
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on November 20, 2013, 03:01:30 AM
http://www.fox19.com/story/24014955/federal-judge-grants-stay-of-execution-in-missouri
Joseph Paul Franklin
Never heard of this guy. Surprising only by the fact that he killed 20 people in racist attacks and most big serial killers from the US have lots of crappy documentaries about them (most of which I have wasted my time watching) but don't remember hearing anything about this guy.
I had heard about him, thanks to Der Stürmer, they have a track about and dedicated to him, called Day of the Hunter. I guess they won't be too happy about him now saying he regrets the murders. Except if he doesn't mean it of course, which seems very well possible.
Here's the track: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUBL0XfGxzs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUBL0XfGxzs)
Seems like there is a documentary or 2 with Franklin. I know I've seen a few interviews with him. Some have speculated that he got a sexual charge from the killings that he wouldn't admit.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2013/11/20/joseph-paul-franklin-execution/3648881/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24987465
Not sure if this fits, but undercover soldiers given the task of hunting and killing IRA members in the 70s admit to shooting unarmed civilians
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/charles-manson-marry-third-wife-2835946
Arizona couple 'held three daughters captive' in home
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-25132953
"It was 24/7 loud music, or, if they showed appreciation or enjoyment of the music... loud static", said Roberto Villasenor, Tucson Police Department
This one really has it all, brutal noise, incest, filth, total sadism. A notch or two higher than most of the other recent captive slave stories.
German policeman arrested in possible 'cannibal' case
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-25151961
Quote from: totalblack on November 29, 2013, 07:25:45 PM
German policeman arrested in possible 'cannibal' case
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-25151961
"German media report that he is an expert in handwriting analysis."
Unfortunately for him, corpse disposal didn't command equal expertise.
Quote from: theotherjohn on November 26, 2013, 11:38:29 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/11/26/ian-watkins-lostprophets-_0_n_4343245.html?ref=topbar
And a revealing article written shortly after his arrest: http://www.roxanashirazi.co.uk/articles/ian-watkins-emo-star-pedophile/
I read up about this when he was first arrested and after some bemusement decided it was a lot of hysteria created by a spurned ex. Amazing that they all pleaded guilty and that the details are so horrible and psychopathic. I kinda wish I hadn't read some of the stuff I've read in murky corners of the web over the last few days.
Newtown 911 calls were released :
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-audio-newtown-school-shooting-911-calls-20131204,0,897864.htmlstory
http://www.wisn.com/news/national/Newtown-school-shooting-911-calls-released/-/9373390/23280828/-/y6tpgbz/-/index.html
Last week or week before, an official report on Adam Lanza was released & the most interesting detail, for me, was that he hadn't left the house in 3 months & only communicated with his mother via email. She also wasn't allowed into his room.
I read up about this when he was first arrested and after some bemusement decided it was a lot of hysteria created by a spurned ex. Amazing that they all pleaded guilty and that the details are so horrible and psychopathic. I kinda wish I hadn't read some of the stuff I've read in murky corners of the web over the last few days.
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Give some of those juicy details, please!
10-year-old Chinese Schoolgirl beats baby,throws him off from 25th floor balcony.
http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/527918/20131206/china-schoolgirl-toddler-elevator.htm (http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/527918/20131206/china-schoolgirl-toddler-elevator.htm)
Quote from: JHC on December 09, 2013, 03:27:47 AM
10-year-old Chinese Schoolgirl beats baby,throws him off from 25th floor balcony.
http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/527918/20131206/china-schoolgirl-toddler-elevator.htm (http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/527918/20131206/china-schoolgirl-toddler-elevator.htm)
The baby seems to have survived? The article talks about medical costs for the child. I know babies and young children can survive falls from great heights because they don't really understand what is happening so they don't tense up their bodies, but falling from the 25th floor and surviving is pretty crazy, some kind of super baby...
This one is kind of old:
"Roommates of the Florida teen who allegedly bludgeoned a 36-year-old man to death last week say the suspect was a satanic male escort after an $800 debt."
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/devil-worshipping-male-escort-accused-killing-sugar-daddy-800-roommates-article-1.1059404
REVENGE PORN article by BBC
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-25332816
has anyone actually looked at these websites?
pretty genius they were charging people to remove the photos.
Any comments or insight on this?
hmmm.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/12/11/texas-man-who-lost-wife-and-daughter-to-rich-kid-drunk-driver-fuming-over-sentence/
Quote from: Mikerdeath on December 12, 2013, 03:34:32 AM
has anyone actually looked at these websites?
pretty genius they were charging people to remove the photos.
Any comments or insight on this?
There are also 'predator watch' sites where people have been charged for details to be removed after they answered craigslist ads, and vigilante attacks liked to the sites. http://thedatingjudge.com/predatorswatch-com-is-a-site-that-blackmails-craigslist-users/
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/343622/Pregnant-mum-jailed-after-vigilante-attack-on-man-wrongly-accused-of-being-a-paedophile
Ian Watkins got a MEGALONGZ sentence of 35 years - http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/ian-watkins-lostprophets-singer-describes-6417103
Sentencing remarks - warning, contains extremely unpleasant details to say the least - http://www.judiciary.gov.uk/Resources/JCO/Documents/Judgments/r-v-watkins-and-others.pdf
One of Italy most notorious serial killer is once again on the loose after being granted a short leave.
Last time he escaped he murdered two persons.
Screws and officers claim they didn't know he's been a sk but only a robber... How the Italian justice system works...
http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/blog/article/chilling-final-photos-of-murder-victims-taken-by-their-killers/index.html
Where can I find more ?
not totally the same, but feds have released thru various outlets photographs taken by 'dating game killer' rodney alcala. for instance: http://www.orangecountyda.com/home/index.asp?page=474 (http://www.orangecountyda.com/home/index.asp?page=474) obviously not all of them are murder victims, but it's still unsure how many of them in fact are.
few days ago Pándy died in jail : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andr%C3%A1s_P%C3%A1ndy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andr%C3%A1s_P%C3%A1ndy)
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/victims-say-bnp-monster-james-3002548
Victims say BNP monster is too dangerous to be freed after fiend tortured girlfriends while they were pregnant
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/jan/08/jail-klu-klux-klan-golliwog-christopher-philips
"a 24-year-old kickboxing tutor who was drummed out of the National Front, reportedly because his views were considered too extreme"
If you are getting kicked out of far right groups for being too extreme you need to calm down a bit.
durng the 90's True crime was my main interest. the interest never died but after going to jail to meet people and for work the interest became secondary...
since two weeks the obsession is back and I have discovered some interesting Italian TV series that are between information and pure exploitation, featuring gruesome reconstructions and stuff. they are all available on youtube.
apart from classic serial killers, there are many lesser names, ad some very interesting bizarre murders and crimes that I never heard of.
some series worth checking:
- Delitti
- Storie maledette (Lengthy interviews with murderers or alleged one. the woman running this is really annoying and constantly provoke them... impressive stuff)
- La linea d'ombra (reconstructions - often with nudity and rape included - many interviews with experts, etc.)
Black metal murder in Thailand:
http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/local/389066/satanist-slays-metal-singer
There are a couple of crime scene photos on the killer's fb profile.
This is the longer version of the "manifesto"/facebook explanation.
***This is status updated from murderer who killed Avaejee of Surrender Of Divinity*** (Translated version for all oversea friends)
Checkmate
Just had no many thing of reason why I murdered, I intend to commit suicide as I am 25 years old, It's a matter that I'll die certainly So, I want to drag together a 1-2 corpses of those who lead attitude of Satanism to stain! And the true Satan answered me to agreed (I am who did meditation everyday 30-60 minutes and gazing in the mirror 30-60 minutes included) but I refrain to kill his wife and his kids, Atleast, to made him know that 'Satan' is not a toys that you can play anywhere and hail upon stage by without the true faith. If you didn't true believe in Satan and no religions but take Satan to be 'symbol' to blaspheme another religions then you can call yourself to be anything, don't fucking call yourself 'Satanic' and also said 'don't believe in Satan but I believe in myself' SHIT!... Poser to blame all another religions which the true Satanist will not blame another religions like a bullshit because of my view is Buddha, Christian, Muslim that believe in their own way, I think they rather be respect more than posers that call oneself 'Satanist' but without any fucking knowledge. It seems like a trendy children and I believe for sure that if I didn't kill, someday he'll be killed by Buddhist, Christian or Muslim certainly.
This murder by first time, I intend to kill around 20-30 corpses but since inconvenience and I am only one who plan to kill So, I decided to kill as enough as possible and the news posted wrongly that I am the fan of Surrender Of Divinity, I'd like to say nowadays I'm not the fan of this shit band anymore and don't take this case to be with 'John Lennon' murder, fucking different...and fucking polices marks this murder is came from drinking and drunk, I'd like to say it's not true because of I INTEND TO KILL HIM ESPECIALLY. I hided my knife into a jacket and sham to bring my t-shirt for painting by his wife and try him to join drinking. That's set up my way to wait he unguarded and came to a night.
I murdered fucking Avaejee, stabbed by a knife which a news posted wrong that I stabbed 3 times but the truth is stabbed 30 times for sure and didn't behead from behind, I confront him, bring a knife to multiple stabbed his front of neck, no slash nor wipe, stabbed every lesions and watching him scrabble, clamber like a dog and raised a hands asking life. He said 'NO' it's breath without voice with splattered blood out follow his speak but I stabbed again at his neck and his skull again and again (sometime knife is deep in skull and hard to pull off) I just wonder that murder people by knife is got a flavor, exciting, feeling more than shooting by gun. When I finished, I'm back to did meditation at the rent hotel easily and for sure...I'M NOT SORRY WHAT I'VE DONE!
All his friends or his family maybe cursing me now but I thought this death is suitable for the poser like him already. Above all, Lord Satan is not a toys, If you haven't true believe, don't call oneself to be Satanist!!!!! I'm not person like brutal, cool, gangster louder but silence, cold blood, savagery...I have it certainly
My life after death is no saying anymore unless I wish I can be in the land of devil and spend a time after death to do meditation continually regardless of 10 years 100 years or 1000 years on my way.
Don't comment or like this status, I only just want to inform a little bit and thanks for reading. Wish everyone whoever read this, be faith on own way by no fool oneself, doing what you must, see you again if we can live in the same dimension after death
HAIL SATAN!!!
This story is getting pretty big I'd say:
http://www.policestateusa.com/2014/kelly-thomas/ (http://www.policestateusa.com/2014/kelly-thomas/)
Charges were dropped from 2 cops who has killed a homeless schizophreniac.
Extensive piece on Adam Lanza:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/exclusive-lanza-twisted-call-radio-station-article-1.1580984
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/newtown-killer-wrote-tales-graphic-violence-documents-article-1.1560456
Listening to Lanza's phonecall to 'Anarchy Radio' now...
http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/30/world/europe/italy-amanda-knox-retrial/
I think she did it
one of the most hated women on Italy for the past few years...
I think as well, but the story is so messed up that everything could be possible.
the worst stuff is that she first accused an apaprently innocent man who ended up in jail for some months, then got freed. this made me think how nasty she was.
http://mobile.nytimes.com/blogs/kristof/2014/02/01/an-open-letter-from-dylan-farrow/
From last June...
Super-obese gang member, 425lbs, gets 32 months in prison for grabbing and sniffing 10-year-old boy's arm (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2351071/425-Pound-man-gets-32-months-prison-grabbing-sniffing-10-year-old-boys-arm.html)
After killing her third victim, Joanna Dennehy phoned her friend and sang the Britney Spears track "Oops I Did It Again" down the line. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-25669206
US doctor guilty of waterboarding daughter
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/americas/2014/02/us-doctor-guilty-waterboarding-daughter-20142140412144495.html (http://www.aljazeera.com/news/americas/2014/02/us-doctor-guilty-waterboarding-daughter-20142140412144495.html)
"Prosecutors accused him of preventing the girl from bathing, suffocating her and keeping her in her room without access to a bathroom, the Reuters news agency reported."
Come on! Waterboarding is kind of like bathing.
I love uK:
Puppy farm massacre
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/367065/Stacy-Banner-opens-up-about-puppy-farm-massacre-that-saw-her-mum-and-sister-shot-dead
Bad-ass woman with over 400 convictions... looks like the fat chick in Shameless
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/367045/Woman-with-400-convictions-jailed-for-attacking-a-pensioner-at-a-bus-stop
Nigerian schoolboy murders:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/25/boko-haram-kills-children-boarding-school
boko haram are amongst the nasties radical groups around the world
in the meantime:
http://www.upworthy.com/see-the-photos-of-what-death-row-inmates-requested-as-their-last-meals?c=ufb1
28 killed, over 100 injured in Kunming by gang of knife-wielding 'terrorists'
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/01/us-china-attack-idUSBREA200OQ20140301 (http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/01/us-china-attack-idUSBREA200OQ20140301)
There's a video of the victims here:
http://thelibertarianrepublic.com/33-killed-130-wounded-mass-stabbing/#axzz2ulN4N5S8
Small in the grand scheme of things, of course, but it's the little things that count.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-03-03/man-pleads-guilty-to-torturing-rats-to-death/5295824 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-03-03/man-pleads-guilty-to-torturing-rats-to-death/5295824)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2572861/Female-pimp-threatened-kill-alleged-child-prostitute-didnt-told-aged-just-10.html
http://nypost.com/2014/03/06/black-hitler-allegedly-tortured-held-nanny-hostage/
'Black Hitler' allegedly tortured & held nanny hostage
A police source said Gamble choked the woman until she passed out, "beat her with a fist, pulled her hair out and beat her with a cellphone on the head."
He also allegedly "rolled up a newspaper and shoved it down her throat, and shouted, 'I am going to kill you. You don't know who I am. I am the black Hitler.'
BLACK HITLER - great band name.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bb4xHHfRFB8 ( video on Italian language only )
Marco Mariolini was a writer before becoming a killer obsessed with anorexic women
His novel "Il cacciatore di anoressiche" ( the anorexic hunter ) prophesy the future of the author himself.
Creepy story
(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/WthDxWR2J6M/0.jpg)
this guy totally obsessed me back in the days. I intended to get in touch with him, but he got annoying in other interviews since he was somehow still blaming the girl for hammering him to get free from his clutch.
I did a long track based on the samples of this track, but never published it.
Vampire Trucker:
http://www.mercurynews.com/crime-courts/ci_25335802/vampire-obsessed-trucker-allegedly-kept-sex-slaves-filed
Wasn't there a movie based on the ano guy? I know I've seen it but remember nothing about it other than it wasn't very memorable.
Would be interesting to see the whole interview w English subs with Marco Mariolini.
I understand Matteo Garrone made a movie about this case. Or loosely based on the book. Namely, Primo Amore from 04. Anyone see it?
"I understand Matteo Garrone made a movie..."
That's the director of the film I was thinking was based on the ano guy.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/03/14/police-maryland-teenage-girls-forced-autistic-boy-to-perform-sex-acts-at-knifepoint/
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on March 14, 2014, 06:23:34 PM
"I understand Matteo Garrone made a movie..."
That's the director of the film I was thinking was based on the ano guy.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/03/14/police-maryland-teenage-girls-forced-autistic-boy-to-perform-sex-acts-at-knifepoint/
the movie is based on Marco Mariolini's novel "il cacciatore di anoressiche"
By Garrone, must see:
- L'IMBALSAMATORE (inspired by a perverted real story - a famous gay dwarf embalmer who ha connection with Naples Camorra. Must see)
- Gomorra (devastating crime movie with real mafia guys involved... no positive characters and based on a notorious Italian book on the subject. dreadful nemelodic soundtrack)
- Reality (possibly the best movie I have seen on reality tv and talents... main actor is an ex con).
Garrone is one of the few Italian directors worth following
40,000 euros of liquid cocaine seized in condoms on way to the Vatican http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/23/vatican-cocaine-condoms-parcel-seized-package (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/23/vatican-cocaine-condoms-parcel-seized-package)
people I would happily exterminate
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/toddler-injured-after-thugs-glue-3286701
Quote from: tiny_tove on March 26, 2014, 04:38:43 PM
people I would happily exterminate
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/toddler-injured-after-thugs-glue-3286701
has to be children doing that
children or not that's disgusting
Have been fascinated with the Romeo and Juliet teens in Florida who shot a cop then themselves while on the run from weed charges. Very sad love notes and suicide notes are at http://www.mynews13.com/content/news/cfnews13/news/article.html/content/news/articles/cfn/2014/3/26/windermere_officer_s1.html
RIP the cop, RIP stupid starcrossed lovers, and fuck the war on drugs.
california pro-gun control senator arrested in arms trafficking conspiracy
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/california-state-senator-leland-yee-arrested-in-federal-raid/ (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/california-state-senator-leland-yee-arrested-in-federal-raid/)
Quote from: l.b. on March 27, 2014, 06:38:23 AM
california pro-gun control senator arrested in arms trafficking conspiracy
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/california-state-senator-leland-yee-arrested-in-federal-raid/ (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/california-state-senator-leland-yee-arrested-in-federal-raid/)
That's a good one! I saw the Senator's name run along the bottom of a news channel but it just said "charges of corruption".
Three basejumpers are in hotwater over this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nz7sxt9xeJE
1,776 feet; one of the jumpers worked as an iron worker on the tower. Pretty goddamn awesome, if you ask me.
Kid in the closet:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2593601/Pregnant-stepmother-father-allegedly-kept-boy-stairs.html
Power Electronics supergroup: http://www.sundaysport.com/?p=15169
This type of activity is already getting old but whatever...
"Complete coverage of the attack at a high school outside of Pittsburgh, PA, where a student went on a bloody rampage and knifed 20 people on the morning of April 9, 2014."
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/school-stabbing-spree/school-stabbing-spree-20-hurt-pittsburgh-area-bloodbath-n75536
Quote from: Scat-O-Logy on April 10, 2014, 12:10:01 AM
This type of activity is already getting old but whatever...
"Complete coverage of the attack at a high school outside of Pittsburgh, PA, where a student went on a bloody rampage and knifed 20 people on the morning of April 9, 2014."
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/school-stabbing-spree/school-stabbing-spree-20-hurt-pittsburgh-area-bloodbath-n75536
Where is the -like- button?
http://www.newsday.com/news/nation/megan-huntsman-accused-of-birthing-killing-7-babies-police-say-1.7697209
Quote from: C601 on April 14, 2014, 08:19:06 PM
http://www.newsday.com/news/nation/megan-huntsman-accused-of-birthing-killing-7-babies-police-say-1.7697209
(http://cdn.newsday.com/polopoly_fs/1.7697219.1397477927!/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/display_600/image.jpg)
She's a real looker :D
was just about to post that one. sometimes mugshots tell such a story. anyway, here's something else: former KKK man arrested for jewish center shootings in illinois
http://abcnews.go.com/US/jewish-center-shooting-suspect-recorded-yelling-heil-hitler/story?id=23314978 (http://abcnews.go.com/US/jewish-center-shooting-suspect-recorded-yelling-heil-hitler/story?id=23314978)
http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/14/us/kansas-jewish-center-shooting/index.html
"Raging Jew hater" shooting
April 13th, 2014, shooting in Kansas City jewish center.
Frazier Glenn Miller is now one and only suspect. 73 year old Miller made his fame as head of White Patriot Party. In '88 man testified against members of The Order in favor of getting shorter prison sentence. Ratting out people who funded his work was certainly not approved by people of underground resistance. 2003 back in business man was running even to US congress. Now couple days ago, according to news, shouting Heil Hitler and making assault at age of 73!
Playlist: OPERATION CLEANSWEEP "White Patriots".
;)
( EDIT: Combined messages of two topics about same thing. )
Miller ran for office (I think it was something local) & received a whopping 7 votes!
The 3 people he shot were Christians. I saw that on TV; this is the first link that popped up when I searched to verify:
http://themadjewess.com/2014/04/14/nazi-democrat-glenn-miller-shot-christians-hoping-it-was-jews-hes-just-like-a-son-of-obama-shooting-random-whites/
Looks pretty kooky...
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/weird-news/cannibals-released-from-prison-only-to-be-found-feasting-on-human-head-9258991.html
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on April 15, 2014, 07:48:16 PM
April 13th, 2014, shooting in Kansas City jewish center.
Frazier Glenn Miller is now one and only suspect. 73 year old Miller made his fame as head of White Patriot Party. In '88 man testified against members of The Order in favor of getting shorter prison sentence. Ratting out people who funded his work was certainly not approved by people of underground resistance. 2003 back in business man was running even to US congress. Now couple days ago, according to news, shouting Heil Hitler and making assault at age of 73!
Playlist: OPERATION CLEANSWEEP "White Patriots".
holy shit!! i knew this guy was familiar. He's featured in the documentary
Blood in the Face, where all of those samples from that operation cleansweep lp come from. if he really testified against the Order, this kinda stinks like a set-up...
edit: here's miller as head of the 'white patriots party' in the aforementioned documentary
(http://i.imgur.com/2yVpFth.png)
and miller in custody the other day:
(http://i.imgur.com/nX51yOz.png)
100 schoolgirls kidnapped:
http://news.yahoo.com/many-girls-abducted-islamist-raid-nigeria-school-131746891.html?soc_src=mediacontentsharebuttons
Rodney Alcala photographs: http://crime.about.com/od/serial/ig/Rodney-Alcala---Photographs/0-20.htm
Model or Victim?
Quote from: l.b. on April 15, 2014, 10:14:27 PM
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on April 15, 2014, 07:48:16 PM
April 13th, 2014, shooting in Kansas City jewish center.
Frazier Glenn Miller is now one and only suspect. 73 year old Miller made his fame as head of White Patriot Party. In '88 man testified against members of The Order in favor of getting shorter prison sentence. Ratting out people who funded his work was certainly not approved by people of underground resistance. 2003 back in business man was running even to US congress. Now couple days ago, according to news, shouting Heil Hitler and making assault at age of 73!
Playlist: OPERATION CLEANSWEEP "White Patriots".
holy shit!! i knew this guy was familiar. He's featured in the documentary Blood in the Face, where all of those samples from that operation cleansweep lp come from. if he really testified against the Order, this kinda stinks like a set-up...
edit: here's miller as head of the 'white patriots party' in the aforementioned documentary
(http://i.imgur.com/2yVpFth.png)
and miller in custody the other day:
(http://i.imgur.com/nX51yOz.png)
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/04/kkk-leader-caught-with-a-black-male-prostitute.html
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/suburbs/elgin/chi-exstate-rep-farnham-charged-with-child-porn-20140428,0,7141488.story
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20140505/af-nigeria-kidnapped-girls/
Up to 300 schoolgirls were kidnapped (50-something escaped) & could be sold into slavery. The quote about hating Western education & selling the girls on the free market is interesting. If he really hated the West, he'd give them away or sell for a price that is fair to everyone who wants to own a schoolgirl.
http://worldcultwatch.org/heartbroken-father-claims-his-married-daughter-32-was-driven-to-suicide-by-a-death-dance-cult-leader/
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on May 06, 2014, 12:49:37 AM
The quote about hating Western education & selling the girls on the free market is interesting.
The quote I read was "on the market", though I do appreciate the irony.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/woman-forced-girl-3-eat-3579492
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/21/carol-coronado-arrested-daughters-slain_n_5362660.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUSqZBWKctc
hmm.
video of allegedly shooter.
seems like a charmer.
Quote from: 2pf cell on May 24, 2014, 05:55:54 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUSqZBWKctc
hmm.
video of allegedly shooter.
seems like a charmer.
"Humanity is a disgusting, wretched, depraved species. If I had it in my power I would stop at nothing to reduce every single one of you to mountains of skulls and rivers of blood and rightfully so. You deserve to be annihilated and I will give that to you. You never showed me any mercy so I will show you none. You forced me to suffer all my life, now I will make you all suffer. I waited a long time for this. I'll give you exactly what you deserve, all of you. All you girls who rejected me, looked down upon me, treated me like scum while you gave yourselves to other men. And all of you men for living a better life than me, all of you sexually active men. I hate you. I hate all of you. I can't wait to give you exactly what you deserve, annihilation."
I have to say, that has a certain Panzram-like quality to it, doesn't it?
Quote from: 2pf cell on May 24, 2014, 05:55:54 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUSqZBWKctc
hmm.
video of allegedly shooter.
seems like a charmer.
Damn, this guy needs a good fuck. Poor boy... :/
Quote from: yosef666 on May 24, 2014, 10:13:29 PM
"Humanity is a disgusting, wretched, depraved species. If I had it in my power I would stop at nothing to reduce every single one of you to mountains of skulls and rivers of blood and rightfully so. You deserve to be annihilated and I will give that to you. You never showed me any mercy so I will show you none. You forced me to suffer all my life, now I will make you all suffer. I waited a long time for this. I'll give you exactly what you deserve, all of you. All you girls who rejected me, looked down upon me, treated me like scum while you gave yourselves to other men. And all of you men for living a better life than me, all of you sexually active men. I hate you. I hate all of you. I can't wait to give you exactly what you deserve, annihilation."
I have to say, that has a certain Panzram-like quality to it, doesn't it?
certainly does!
but unfortunately he comes across more as a spoilt brat.
i'm still not sure what to make of his evil laughs...!
Quote from: 2pf cell on May 25, 2014, 12:42:50 AM
Quote from: yosef666 on May 24, 2014, 10:13:29 PM
"Humanity is a disgusting, wretched, depraved species. If I had it in my power I would stop at nothing to reduce every single one of you to mountains of skulls and rivers of blood and rightfully so. You deserve to be annihilated and I will give that to you. You never showed me any mercy so I will show you none. You forced me to suffer all my life, now I will make you all suffer. I waited a long time for this. I'll give you exactly what you deserve, all of you. All you girls who rejected me, looked down upon me, treated me like scum while you gave yourselves to other men. And all of you men for living a better life than me, all of you sexually active men. I hate you. I hate all of you. I can't wait to give you exactly what you deserve, annihilation."
I have to say, that has a certain Panzram-like quality to it, doesn't it?
certainly does!
but unfortunately he comes across more as a spoilt brat.
i'm still not sure what to make of his evil laughs...!
I haven't watched his youtube video but If I was going to go on a rampage youtube would be the last thing on my mind. This fellow needed some attention obviously, I guess his black bmw could not afford him enough?
However, his statement in written form is pretty strong in it's simplicity. He is not the only young white male in America today that feels this way inside.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/225960813/Elliot-Rodger-Santa-Barbara-mass-shooting-suspect-My-Twisted-World-manifesto - full and ridiculous manifesto. Page 136 contains some corkers.
Quote from: HongKongGoolagong on May 25, 2014, 04:15:07 PM
http://www.scribd.com/doc/225960813/Elliot-Rodger-Santa-Barbara-mass-shooting-suspect-My-Twisted-World-manifesto - full and ridiculous manifesto. Page 136 contains some corkers.
"corkers" would be the understatement of the century (...its a young century)
Is this whole thing some kind of wind-up? There's something distinctly contrived about this twat. Maybe I'm just getting more paranoid.
This is a gift to the feminista blogger/punter brigade.
Cop Killer
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/moncton-shooting-finding-arresting-suspect-top-priority-1.2665707
active now - this is happening about 2.5-3 hours away from where I live, everyone in my office and on my facebook feed is losing their shit. quite annoying.
Finland to the world map! A bit old already but...
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/06/04/us-finland-crimes-babies-idUSKBN0EF16020140604
lefty pedo scandal
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-26352378
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/real-life-stories/kidnapped-daughters-killer---only-3728024
always supported self-made justice
over 100 sets of remains of illegal migrants found in mass grave in Texas
http://www.aljazeera.com/humanrights/2014/06/mass-migrant-graves-unearthed-texas-2014622135759344842.html (http://www.aljazeera.com/humanrights/2014/06/mass-migrant-graves-unearthed-texas-2014622135759344842.html)
I thought this was good -
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/aug/07/man-fined-pretending-to-be-ghost-portsmouth-cemetery-anthony-stallard (http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/aug/07/man-fined-pretending-to-be-ghost-portsmouth-cemetery-anthony-stallard)
"Police spokesman says witnesses complained about Anthony Stallard 'throwing his arms in the air and saying woooooo'"
^Yeah, gave me good laughs today. I can picture the situation in my mind. Must've been pretty awkward, haha! :D
was he armed with a large white sheet?
this made my day
Islamic State militants mourn Robin Williams, enjoy 'Jumanji'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2722878/Bizarre-Twitter-outburst-ISIS-fighters-reveal-love-late-Robin-Williams-blockbuster-hit-Jumanji.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2722878/Bizarre-Twitter-outburst-ISIS-fighters-reveal-love-late-Robin-Williams-blockbuster-hit-Jumanji.html)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-28641008
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-08-15/woman-with-cocaine-breast-implants-arrested-in-madrid/5675162 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-08-15/woman-with-cocaine-breast-implants-arrested-in-madrid/5675162)
QuoteAlthough unusual, it is not the first time Spanish police have seen drug smugglers using breast implants to try to beat detection.
"bitches be trippin"
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-28862308 (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-28862308)
Lovely...
http://topconservativenews.com/2014/08/far-left-activist-gets-beaten-up-in-ferguson-in-a-racial-hate-crime-mob-attack/
guy having skype sex inadvertently recorded audio of michael brown's shooting:
http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/26/us/michael-brown-ferguson-shooting/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/26/us/michael-brown-ferguson-shooting/index.html)
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/brother-sister-arrested-after-having-4127773
QuoteTeenage girls raped in the Rotherham child sex abuse scandal gave birth to more than 100 babies.
Scores more children as young as 13 miscarried or were forced to have abortions after attacks by Asian gangs on 1,400 girls.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/rotherham-child-sex-scandal-resulted-4137542 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/rotherham-child-sex-scandal-resulted-4137542)
Well that didn't end well...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2741925/Man-28-bike-ride-six-states-propose-girlfriend-stabbed-death-homeless-man-snack-stop-McDonald-s.html?ito=social-facebook
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2754761/Stalker-jailed-raping-pregnant-woman-making-BREASTFEED-gave-birth.html
Seems like the dude got little more than just milk from dem titties: His first victim said she feels he has 'sucked the life out of me'
QuoteGibbons is one of the most vile, controlling, abusive and cowardly men I have ever encountered...
Going by the descriptions of his crimes, that seems a reasonable assessment. Hope he gets the bible-quoting shit kicked out of him in prison (although there's probably a fair quota of similar scum inside who'd think he was alright).
http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2014/09/12/43-year-old-hiv-positive-teacher-admits-having-sex-with-teen/
creepy giftgivers :O
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ian-forman-watch-receptionist-obsessed-3483322
the video!!!
That's great, I love how careful he is taking a sip of wine at the start. He looks very scary.
http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/chef-marcus-peter-volke-killed-dismembered-and-cooked-girlfriend-in-teneriffe-apartment/story-fnihsrf2-1227080803355?nk=0d43dded6e374cbd16ad5f65df5dce68
7th Heaven dad Stephen Collins - Confesses on tape to to child molestation
http://www.tmz.com/2014/10/07/stephen-collins-child-molestation-7th-heaven-audio-tape-nypd-investigation/
"Stephen Collins -- who played the pastor/dad on "7th Heaven" -- confessed to his estranged wife he was a child molester"
This show was on when I was a lot younger, the audio is quite revealing.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-10-28/clown-terror-spreads-in-france/5846008 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-10-28/clown-terror-spreads-in-france/5846008)
http://www.inquisitr.com/1571567/grave-robber-exhumes-29-little-girls-and-turns-them-into-dolls-graphic-photos/
Grave Robber Exhumes 29 Little Girls And Turns Them Into Dolls
Would like to see scans/photos of the notes left behind at the grave site.
Splendid Chinese reportage with useful illustrations of the British banker in Hong Kong who's being dubbed the 'American Psycho' killer - http://money.21cbh.com/2014/11-2/4NMDA0MDRfMTMzMTU4Ng.html
Wonder who has this hanging up in their bathroom today?
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/11/04/world/europe/germany-dachau-sign-theft/index.html
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/410339/Timothy-Jay-Vafeades-trucker-obsessed-vampires-kidnapped-women-sex-slaves-fangs
"rape culture" at University of Virginia
http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-echochambers-30153441 (http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-echochambers-30153441)
a new angel of death on the news in Italy
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/412123/Daniela-Poggiali-nurse-murder-poison-Italy
there was another one in my town that i knew by sight and was living close to my friend at soffitta macabra. there was a moment when she was suspected of over 90 deaths, then the quotes got drastically reduced
http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonya_Caleffi
still mrs poggiali
(http://i3.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article4517678.ece/alternates/s615/nurse-Daniela-Poggiali.jpg)
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/killer-nurse-who-took-pictures-4517695
QuoteAccording to investigators, she had found the dead patients "annoying" or they had "pushy relatives."
Know the feeling.
http://wonderfulengineering.com/it-seems-like-an-ordinary-toy-until-she-removes-the-foil-its-frightening/
don't fucking call me harry potter! (nerds strike back!)
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ryan-walker-harry-potter-attack-3134853#rlabs=4
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/teenage-shoplifter-who-also-broke-4740311
lol
Quote from: tiny_tove on December 03, 2014, 04:33:23 PM
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/teenage-shoplifter-who-also-broke-4740311
lol
Cruel parents...
http://www.aol.com/article/2014/12/12/killing-calmed-me-down-brazilian-man-admits-murdering-more-than-40-people-rio-de-janeiro/21115576/?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D581142 (http://www.aol.com/article/2014/12/12/killing-calmed-me-down-brazilian-man-admits-murdering-more-than-40-people-rio-de-janeiro/21115576/?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D581142)
and.. a local killer...
http://news.yahoo.com/accused-seattle-campus-killer-allegedly-confessed-fun-021428980--abc-news-topstories.html (http://news.yahoo.com/accused-seattle-campus-killer-allegedly-confessed-fun-021428980--abc-news-topstories.html)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/21/megan-mahoney-teacher-sex_n_6022546.html
another article on NY teacher Megan Mahoney
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/01/shelley-dufresne-teacher-sex-rachel-respess_n_5915244.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular
i feel like i really missed the boat in high school. didn't fuck any of my teachers...
Quote from: ConcreteMascara on December 15, 2014, 10:47:37 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/01/shelley-dufresne-teacher-sex-rachel-respess_n_5915244.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular
If that stupid kid had just kept his mouth shut he'd probably still be living the wet dream.
Quote from: tiny_tove on December 02, 2014, 12:29:27 PM
don't fucking call me harry potter! (nerds strike back!)
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ryan-walker-harry-potter-attack-3134853#rlabs=4
Ten fucking points!
Blog of the woman who got raped by a nigger at her workplace. Only in Finnish.
http://jasmin70.blogspot.fi/
(http://static.iltalehti.fi/uutiset/15391401_190_uu.jpg)
Quote from: Vigilante Ecstasy on December 18, 2014, 01:00:46 PM
Blog of the woman who got raped by a nigger at her workplace. Only in Finnish.
http://jasmin70.blogspot.fi/
(http://static.iltalehti.fi/uutiset/15391401_190_uu.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/2bSgBkW.jpg)
case closed in hanging death of 6-year-old girl in foster care, police say "foul play isn't suspected." naturally people are a bit suspicious.
http://www.kare11.com/story/news/crime/2015/01/15/case-closed-on-hanging-death-of-6-year-old-kendrea-johnson/21817087/
Wowsers.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-30884342
I wonder if the teacher told the students that he is coming up their ass, and that his cock is on fire?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tara_Calico
A man from my local pub...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11371480/Man-accused-of-having-sex-with-a-Shetland-pony-was-found-smelling-strongly-of-horses.html
Quote from: youngnosh on January 28, 2015, 11:53:41 AM
A man from my local pub...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11371480/Man-accused-of-having-sex-with-a-Shetland-pony-was-found-smelling-strongly-of-horses.html
"It's a small world, after all" ... I went to middle school with this guy, never liked him.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2933329/Conservative-radio-producer-25-arrested-studio-possessing-hundreds-disturbing-child-porn-images.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2933329/Conservative-radio-producer-25-arrested-studio-possessing-hundreds-disturbing-child-porn-images.html)
This gal was in the same class with the above mentioned guy and myself.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/07/world/middleeast/isis-claims-american-hostage-killed-by-jordanian-retaliation-bombings.html?_r=0 (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/07/world/middleeast/isis-claims-american-hostage-killed-by-jordanian-retaliation-bombings.html?_r=0)
I guess it's been kind of an odd week.
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/teen-charged-selfie-dead-body-052144327.html#uGzLrWC
Maybe this historical site will have interested parties here ?
http://malefactorsregister.com/wp/ (http://malefactorsregister.com/wp/)
happy valentine's day
http://www.cbs12.com/news/top-stories/stories/man-broke-into-funeral-home-had-sex-corpses-body-arrested-23380.shtml?wap=0 (http://www.cbs12.com/news/top-stories/stories/man-broke-into-funeral-home-had-sex-corpses-body-arrested-23380.shtml?wap=0)
http://www.seattlepi.com/local/article/Charge-Child-rape-video-collector-caught-with-6088608.php
Can you pick the pedophile? (I got a C).
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=spot_the_pedo (http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=spot_the_pedo)
whole other abstract level:
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/islamic-state-video-shows-militants-smashing-rare-ancient-132226579.html
Nothing scum like that wont stoop to. The Taliban destroyed those ancient Buddhist statues over a decade ago, too. Fucking vermin.
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/teenage-virgin-jailed-21-years-175709401.html#NTTG8ak
http://www.thejournal.ie/graham-dwyer-trial/news/
"Jury at Elaine O'Hara murder trial warned that details will be difficult for the squeamish" - plenty of detail in these press reports of an ongoing case not widely reported outside Ireland.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-03-21/colorado-woman-admits-cutting-foetus-from-stranger27s-womb/6338004 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-03-21/colorado-woman-admits-cutting-foetus-from-stranger27s-womb/6338004)
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on March 21, 2015, 11:43:04 AM
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-03-21/colorado-woman-admits-cutting-foetus-from-stranger27s-womb/6338004 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-03-21/colorado-woman-admits-cutting-foetus-from-stranger27s-womb/6338004)
The emergency call by the victim was pretty eerie...
Definitely crime of the year at the moment:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/obsessive-germanwings-co-pilot-andreas-lubitz-5410558
very interesting profile.
http://national.suntimes.com/national-world-news/us-news/7/72/647601/woman-get-life-prison-sex-4-year-old-dog/
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/explicit-exhibition-branded-grotesque-020511922.html#iqQ3yMh
Someone's burning churches down here.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-04-01/suspicious-fire-third-melbourne-catholic-church-paedophile-pries/6363844 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-04-01/suspicious-fire-third-melbourne-catholic-church-paedophile-pries/6363844)
'Vile and depraved' UK gang raped and abused babies
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-32413502
The UK-wide gang raped and abused babies and young children, streaming the attacks online to fellow members.
John Denham, 49, and Matthew Stansfield, 34, had denied plotting sex crimes against the victims.
They were found guilty after a trial at Bristol Crown Court. Five other members had earlier admitted various offences.
The group used the internet to plan and stream abuse and tried to groom pregnant women in order to find new victims, the trial heard.
In one case, they groomed a mother and father before their child was born.
Officers from the National Crime Agency, which led the investigation, said the crimes were the most "vile and depraved" it had ever investigated.
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/apr/30/teenager-found-not-guilty-of-raping-his-mother-after-she-said-it-was-just-a-dream
What a headline.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/may/06/new-zealand-man-found-guilty-of-pulling-out-lovers-teeth-during-sex (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/may/06/new-zealand-man-found-guilty-of-pulling-out-lovers-teeth-during-sex)
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/cannibal-killer-accused-eating-girlfriends-5649109#ICID=sharebar_twitter
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/pregnant-10-olds-alleged-rapist-arrested-035603680.html#tZ09yrd
which groups were involved?
genious
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/stinson-hunter-wannabe-cop-fetish-5769150
http://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2015/jun/09/child-marriage-girls-initiation-rites-fgm-customs
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jun/10/lee-irving-murder-disability-hate-crime-increase
Dylann Storm's manifesto has surfaced at http://lastrhodesian.com/data/documents/rtf88.txt - at least it's shorter than Anders Breivik and Elliot Rodgers' epic justifications.
cannot access the website :/
Manifest has been cut & pasted all over internet. Nothing new on it. Basic stuff. Perhaps it is shocking to many humanists out there, but I'd assume many would also ask: 9 people?
One can't deny individual tragedy, but I'd guess 9 people probably dies this year in Finnish mid-summer celebrations this weekend? There is no shortage of people. If just same social-media crying would arise from big headlines hitting newspapers around same time, about utterly alarming rate of extenction of species. But no. Couple people dies in other side of world and it seems to be dominating headlines even here over.
Well, of course it's interesting case in some ways, like more obscure true crime is. For example, mass murder. Newsworthy, especially for crime enthusiasts. But exaggerated empathy or concern in other side of world seem weird.
It's hard to judge such act, as one can always write it off as foolish and senseless, that simply ruined lives (others and his), but in other hand he appears to be quite sure of what he aimed for. Maximum exposure for his message, and that's what he got.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2015/jun/26/suspected-terror-attack-at-french-factory-live-updates
https://www.academia.edu/13272724/Ted_Bundy_Contemporary_Missing_Girls_List_1961-1975
Brady supports the Ukip
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/inside-twisted-ian-bradys-warped-5584576
OUCH
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/juror-faints-after-murder-trial-6059976
OUACH
(http://i1.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article6059414.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/JS68120462.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=137&v=5nIwmSMVh8Y
http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/pimps-dirty-needles-and-used-condoms-in-one-vancouver-residential-area-prompt-calls-for-city-action/ar-AAdrnb5
Dead man with 1200 guns claimed to be secret agent alien hybrid
http://ktla.com/2015/07/23/jeffrey-alan-lash-pacific-palisades-mystery-man-weapons-cache/ (http://ktla.com/2015/07/23/jeffrey-alan-lash-pacific-palisades-mystery-man-weapons-cache/)
Quote from: l.b. on July 26, 2015, 10:09:58 PM
Dead man with 1200 guns claimed to be secret agent alien hybrid
http://ktla.com/2015/07/23/jeffrey-alan-lash-pacific-palisades-mystery-man-weapons-cache/ (http://ktla.com/2015/07/23/jeffrey-alan-lash-pacific-palisades-mystery-man-weapons-cache/)
The deceased gun nut didn't claim to be anything:
"Dawn VadBunker of Oxnard was last seen by her family on the same day 60-year-old Jeffery Lash died. Lash has not been officially identified as the man whose body was reported to police on July 17, but his former attorney confirmed his name to KTLA.
VadBunker's mother believes her 39-year-old daughter has been caught in the middle of a mysterious death investigation and may be suffering from a mental breakdown. According to Laura VadBunker, her daughter believes Lash was an alien "sent to earth to protect us."
http://ktla.com/2015/07/22/dead-man-with-hundreds-of-weapons-linked-to-disappearance-of-oxnard-mother/
The LAPD scored big time with all those rifles & ammo!
Here's a good story: http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/07/25/women-who-shot-alleged-attacker-may-have-slain-a-serial-killer-police-say/
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jul/26/bill-cosby-accusers-new-york-magazine-photo-essay
american dad
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CK50Ie-UkAEgVS2.jpg)
http://crazed.com/wyoming-man-eyeballs-in-cavity/
genious
That is just...outstanding.
Holy crap, I wouldn't want to eat that soup.
guys, really, that really made my day and I so love my girlfriend for forwarding it to me... I cannot stop thinking about it.
Search for 43 missing students in Mexico turns up corpses of at least 129 other people
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2015/07/27/world/search-43-missing-students-mexico-turns-corpses-least-129-people/#.VbYtUvl8XKj (http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2015/07/27/world/search-43-missing-students-mexico-turns-corpses-least-129-people/#.VbYtUvl8XKj)
Ok, not the most shocking crime but worth it just for the mugshot
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/08/02/14/2B0A68D700000578-0-image-m-2_1438521242814.jpg)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3182955/Woman-brazenly-tries-eat-crack-cocaine-drug-agents-arrest-theft.html?ito=social-facebook
Lunatic..
http://us.tomonews.net/lunatic-decapitates-wife-kills-dogs-gouges-his-own-eye-out-and-cuts-off-his-own-arm-259128833589248
Quote from: Nil By Mouth on August 04, 2015, 09:17:04 AM
Lunatic..
http://us.tomonews.net/lunatic-decapitates-wife-kills-dogs-gouges-his-own-eye-out-and-cuts-off-his-own-arm-259128833589248
Good lord, look at the photo of his wife, I didn't realise that was a woman.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3185180/Father-hacks-six-children-aged-one-seven-pieces-axe-murders-pregnant-mother-accused-adultery-Russia.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3185180/Father-hacks-six-children-aged-one-seven-pieces-axe-murders-pregnant-mother-accused-adultery-Russia.html)
QuoteRussian police discovered the dismembered remains of six children killed with an axe after the alarm was raised when the youngsters failed to appear at kindergarten.
Officers broke in to the family flat through a window to find the dead youngsters - aged between one and seven - and the body of their pregnant mother in Nizhny Novgorod, east of Moscow.
All had been hacked to pieces with an axe and bundled into plastic bags, said police.
Dude in Texas molests some kid in the entrance of a restaurant and it was caught on video:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1f3_1438969658
Mummy and Daddy
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/shocking-pictures-show-horrendous-conditions-6265719
http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/18/us/subway-jared-fogle-charges/index.html
"You've got to admire Jared's constant drive to get into smaller and smaller pants."
Rome is not only the political capital of Italy but also one of the most important criminal ones.
In recent times what everybody into intelligence/crime knew for a long time became explicit.
The town has been run in the past few years by both left and right politicians connected to a weird mix of murderers, ex terrorists, mafiosi from Naples and Calabria, Sinti gipsies, etc.
Many the means of incomes: drugs, loan sharking, corruption and a very peculiar immigrant management that uncovered why some people was so happy about the various wars in Northern Africa and the Middle east.
As said by Buzzi himself (head of a left wing social trust previously jailed for a brutal murder and strict collaborator of an ex right wing murderer connected to the so called Banda della Magliana, a gang that run Rome in the 80's) immigrants brings more money than drugs.
There are thousands of pages on line regarding the subject, so I won't bore you with that.
What I wanted to share was yeseterday's funeral of one of the heads of the Casamonica's klan, a Sinti/Gipsys family that runs a big slice of the drug market and other form of exploitations/crimes in Rome. Without any problems and with big advertisement with posters with written "King of Rome", helicopters spreading flowers from the sky, brass bands playing the godfather, a space odisssey and paradise (!!!).
http://video.corriere.it/casamonica-banda-suona-my-way-paradise-la-bara-cielo-poi-applausi-l-evergreen-sinatra/e556357e-4764-11e5-aa5e-2130add6a46c
The priest says he didn't know who this guy was...
Sinti? Italian newspapers don't tell nothing about this, strange to know ehe
Yea, that's made headlines in the English speaking world. Every now and then (more so recently, I've noticed) I'm reminded that the ruling class have absolutely no taste at all. The crass shall inherit the Earth.
http://roma.corriere.it/cronaca/cards/casamonica-trash-boxe-ferrari-clan-sport-usura-politica/vicini-banda-magliana_principale.shtml
Yes they are. And they are proud of that.
Very often Italia media no longer quote the origins of criminal groups due to Boldrini's pressures.
Same happened during the Roms' raids in the twon where my sister lives. They opened her house twice in a week (and she had already been visited by Sintis due years ago).
The group returned in the town every night for one week and the only cop car available had to come crom a not-so-nearby town.
They raided houses, offices, shops until a bartender was abel to crush one of this scumbags with his car, but unfortunately he survived and was wable to run away.
it took a few days before the news went on line yet they saw them in the face, they heard them speaking and cops themselves confirmed they knew about this gang but could do nothing to stop them beacuse they were too many and too organized.
http://www.laprovinciadicomo.it/stories/Cronaca/beregazzo-sorpresi-e-inseguiti-i-ladri-con-la-barba-abbandonano-il-bottino_1128877_11/
http://www.laprovinciadicomo.it/stories/Cronaca/colpo-a-beregazzo-con-figliaroma-un-altro-colpo-sfuma_1129991_11/
the funny thing was the northern league's leader in town (who got robbed as well) asked for the army intervention lol
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/aug/21/disgust-in-rome-at-mafia-dons-glamour-funeral-complete-with-godfather-music
funnily enough they quote left wing politicians while (no more no less than right ones) are part of the Rome problem at the moment.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Rome_corruption_scandal
PD stands democratic party, currently in charge of the governament.
nephews complaining they are not mafia
http://video.corriere.it/i-casamonica-si-difendono-non-siamo-mafiosi-chiediamo-scusa-solo-papa/5febaedc-4809-11e5-9031-22dbf5f9fa34?cmpid=SF020103COR
Interesting article on civil warfare in El Salvador.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/aug/22/el-salvador-worlds-most-homicidal-place (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/aug/22/el-salvador-worlds-most-homicidal-place)
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/weird-news/464036/Train-pervert-masturbates-in-front-of-passenger
more exhibitionism, yet this time with a celeb
http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/star-trek-voyager-actress-jennifer-6451231?ICID=FB_mirror_main
UN vs rapist peacekeepers!
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/17/stop-protecting-peacekeepers-who-rape-ban-ki-moon-tells-un-member-states
back in the 90's something like this happened to me...
http://www.theguardian.com/education/2015/sep/24/student-accused-being-terrorist-reading-book-terrorism
Quote from: tiny_tove on September 24, 2015, 12:23:55 PM
back in the 90's something like this happened to me...
http://www.theguardian.com/education/2015/sep/24/student-accused-being-terrorist-reading-book-terrorism
What were you reading?
to cut a long story short. among the several things I was reading/owning were books on radical politics and religius extremism that were actually purchased straight from the source and it took me quite a while to explain it was for reasearch purpose. I was not incarcerated for this reason -luckily - but stuff got confiscated for a long while and returned after a long while and I have been "visited" several times. Once I started writing for magazines, etc. things became easier since possession of such material became justifiable as documentation, but it was annoying to say the least.
Can imagine... always had academia as an excuse for my collection... though not having a muslim name probably means I fall under the radar...
class war against true crime
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/sep/30/jack-the-ripper-museum-ridiculed-class-war-counter-protest
Quote from: tiny_tove on September 16, 2015, 11:59:30 AM
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/weird-news/464036/Train-pervert-masturbates-in-front-of-passenger
Happening here in Austria regularly - usually done by non-whites and therefore not in the media at all...
http://dangerousminds.net/comments/website_collects_the_mugshots_and_final_words
http://loudwire.com/goatlord-guitarist-murders-neighbor-her-son-commits-suicide/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3260432/Colorado-man-accused-hunting-young-men-teenagers-dating-app-Grindr-keeping-sex-slaves-branding-name.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3260432/Colorado-man-accused-hunting-young-men-teenagers-dating-app-Grindr-keeping-sex-slaves-branding-name.html)
A 48-year-old man has been accused of hunting down teenagers and young men on all-male dating app Grindr, keeping them as sex slaves and branding them with a tattoo of his name.
He told Fox31 Denver that the males living with him played video games, watched Netflix and made porn.
'They don't realize they're victims. They think he's there to help them and they get whatever they want and they don't have to work or get jobs or participate in normal society,' he added.
One boy says Crumpler is HIV positive but protection was not used during sex, the affidavit stated.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on October 08, 2015, 02:53:54 AM
http://loudwire.com/goatlord-guitarist-murders-neighbor-her-son-commits-suicide/
This reminds me, I need to buy those recently reissued Goatlord records!
Happy Halloween!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3274571/Brutally-beaten-dead-body-mother-hanging-fence-dismissed-neighbors-gory-Halloween-decoration.html
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/16/trio-stole-corpse-to-sell-as-bride-says-chinese-media (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/16/trio-stole-corpse-to-sell-as-bride-says-chinese-media)
Quote from: Scat-O-Logy on October 16, 2015, 04:44:23 AM
Happy Halloween!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3274571/Brutally-beaten-dead-body-mother-hanging-fence-dismissed-neighbors-gory-Halloween-decoration.html
this is straight out of a slasher flick. here's another article
http://fox8.com/2015/10/16/neighbors-mistake-body-of-murdered-woman-hanging-from-fence-as-halloween-decoration/ (http://fox8.com/2015/10/16/neighbors-mistake-body-of-murdered-woman-hanging-from-fence-as-halloween-decoration/)
Mind-numbing amounts of k=p:
http://www.fox32chicago.com/news/crime/31569106-story
Could it be a noiser who stabbed kids in Trollhättan today. I just read he was listening to odd sounding music.
I bet its not, just some edm bullshit.
I hadn't heard of this woman before, very bizarre.
http://murderpedia.org/female.K/k/knight-katherine.htm
Maybe you have heard of her before, if not, enjoy!!
http://news.yahoo.com/texas-woman-used-blood-ritual-while-being-held-184725886.html
It's all about kid touching these days so this is pretty refreshing:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-19011763
this is super hard to find but does anyone know where i could see a documentary called Lifer: Living with Murder. its about UK prisoners in the 1990's/2000's.
Quote from: molena on November 17, 2015, 08:09:41 AM
this is super hard to find but does anyone know where i could see a documentary called Lifer: Living with Murder. its about UK prisoners in the 1990's/2000's.
Is this a different documentary to 'Lifers' that is on Channel 4 as well? I can't seem to find that one online either. Did find a lecture from the director of Lifer if you are interested -
http://www2.le.ac.uk/departments/criminology/news-and-events/scarmanlecture/rexbloomstein
its not the most recent one on channel 4, i think it was originally on in 2003. thanks for the info on the maker of the doc.
very interesting and reminds me of the Sardinian blood feuds I have been investigating for years.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/19/the-murderers-next-door-romania?CMP=fb_gu
any Romanian person on the forum that could give me more information on this subjects?
http://www.theguardian.com/culture/2015/nov/11/nathan-matthews-case-reignites-debate-over-violent-pornography
http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/Becky-Watts-Nathan-Matthews-paranoid-pervert/story-28163133-detail/story.html
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/becky-watts-murder-trial-how-6808709
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/violent-porn-dangers-posed-to-women/ (where are the "stabbing videos" located?)
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/nov/26/man-stole-brains-from-former-insane-asylum-and-put-them-on-ebay (http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/nov/26/man-stole-brains-from-former-insane-asylum-and-put-them-on-ebay)
ab... normal
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-KgwB2n_j7Tw/UBAVC34OOAI/AAAAAAAAEhI/JyzuK1WujGQ/s1600/abbn.jpg)
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-34987697
San Bernardino shooting with 14 dead in a center for the disabled.
(attempted) murder as art
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3347287/Woman-stabbed-Art-Basel-random-attack-witnesses-thought-performance-art-fake-blood.html
Maybe these have already been posted (??)
http://politicalvelcraft.org/2013/03/13/illinois-murder-for-necrophilia-politics-are-looking-for-racist-motives/
https://crimecrawlers.wordpress.com/2010/07/31/the-grunke-twins-and-buddy-radke-try-to-dig-up-a-date-and-end-up-getting-screwed/
nerds+white trash= tnt
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/6797919/Chilling-CCTV-shows-evil-killers-lead-man-with-learning-disabilities-to-their-flat-before-murdering-him-and-walking-away-hand-in-hand.html?CMP=spklr-_-Editorial-_-FBPAGE-_-TheSun-thesun-_-20151211-_-News-_-301906118-_-Imageandlink
Psycho-the-RAPIST
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3354501/Christian-cult-leader-psychotherapist-63-told-clients-breastfeed-suckle-mummy-s-milk-jailed-series-bizarre-sexual-assaults-women.html
if you're kids misbehave, put them in storage for a bit
http://q13fox.com/2015/12/15/2-dead-children-found-in-california-storage-unit/ (http://q13fox.com/2015/12/15/2-dead-children-found-in-california-storage-unit/)
This pretty wild, it's old, still but I hadn't seen it before:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ngtXPP5krU
When she stops the interview, to my mind she starts to sound like Aileen Wuornos.
el chapo back in jail
this is one of the most recent Italian true crime cases, going on for some years
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/08/-sp-the-murder-that-has-obsessed-italy
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/19/alexander-litvinenko-the-man-who-solved-his-own-murder?CMP=fb_gu
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/492516/death-row-making-a-murderer-last-words-death-penalty
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/feb/07/dublin-drugs-shooting-spain-gang-warfare
any book on the subject? I mean Irish mob in Ireland, links with IRA, etc.?
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/feb/14/mother-supposed-know-son-columbine-sue-klebold?CMP=fb_a-culture_b-gdnculture
You have to give the guy some credit for having a solid work ethic:
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/02/21/us/michigan-kalamazoo-county-shooting-spree/index.html
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/497798/moscow-Oktyabrskoye-Pole-metro-station-severed-head-child-russian-woman-detained
UK Daily mirror has 20 year anniversary interview with headmaster of Dunblane School massacre.
Am sitting in the pub reading a paper copy so no tag for you to click.
The copy is usual sensationalist, my story stuff with added editorial moralising and even spurious celeb angle as UK tennis player Andy Murray was at school there at the time.
I wish you guy could all read Italian: http://www.huffingtonpost.it/2016/03/08/varani-figlio-mostro-coca_n_9406562.html?ncid=fcbklnkithpmg00000001
The darkside of gay Chemsex
Quote from: david lloyd jones on March 05, 2016, 03:33:03 PM
UK Daily mirror has 20 year anniversary interview with headmaster of Dunblane School massacre.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-35727480
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/alberta-rcmp-offer-100-000-reward-for-serial-killer-1.557283
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3496407/Predator-23-ran-global-child-porn-network-jailed-15-years.html
Also could probably fit in the Pornography thread.
Breiviks lawsuit against the state is off to a flying start!
(http://daisy.sodor.no/generated/264915_374383_np.jpg)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3073478/Teen-girl-feted-Ukraine-s-Joan-Arc-fighting-against-Russian-rebels-revealed-nasty-neo-Nazi-views-arrested-killing-cops.html
Wouldn't usually post a Mail link but it's the only reporting that makes a deal out of the splendid 'Mum Slut' folder detail - fun for all the family. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3513790/Crane-driver-69-cut-partner-s-head-kitchen-knife-flushed-smashed-skull-toilet-boasted-sleeping-men.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3515296/Schoolgirl-14-cowers-floor-female-bullies-repeatedly-stamp-head-punch-spit-film-sickening-attack.html
Pretty brutal video
QuoteRyon Lenelle Travis was arrested last month when police executed a search warrant at the 32-year-old suspect's Detroit home and found a 25-year-old woman with a chain around her neck, locked to a stripper pole.
A four-count indictment accused him of sexual exploitation of children; involvement with activities and material constituting child pornography and sex trafficking of children by force, fraud or coercion.
The woman, who has not been identified, told police she was one of four sex slaves living in the home that authorities described as a prison-like brothel run by Travis, the Chicago Tribune reported. She had been chained to the pole for two weeks as a punishment for attempting to escape, police said.
https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2016/04/08/police-find-%E2%80%98house-horrors%E2%80%99-arrest-sovereign-citizen
I guess even serial killers have friends:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/police-dig-up-garden-married-7890832#rlabs=1%20rt$category%20p$9
Quote from: cantle on May 04, 2016, 04:22:19 AM
I guess even serial killers have friends:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/police-dig-up-garden-married-7890832#rlabs=1%20rt$category%20p$9
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/chilling-fred-rose-west-postcard-7902691
http://murderpedia.org/male.D/d/drew-carl.htm
Occultist and pimp who organized his "stable" as a satanic coven. "Sacrificed" young women who displeased him. A Massachusetts pimp and self-styled Satanist, Drew used the trappings of his twisted religion to keep prostitutes in line, compelling their participation in cult rituals and threatening savage violence if they tried to reject his "protection."
Quote from: F_c_O on May 15, 2016, 04:52:36 PM
http://murderpedia.org/male.D/d/drew-carl.htm
Occultist and pimp who organized his "stable" as a satanic coven. "Sacrificed" young women who displeased him. A Massachusetts pimp and self-styled Satanist, Drew used the trappings of his twisted religion to keep prostitutes in line, compelling their participation in cult rituals and threatening savage violence if they tried to reject his "protection."
Haha, have you seen his website? I just came across it a few days ago,
http://carldrewsfight.com
Quote from: Nganga_Cult on May 16, 2016, 01:28:44 AM
Quote from: F_c_O on May 15, 2016, 04:52:36 PM
http://murderpedia.org/male.D/d/drew-carl.htm
Occultist and pimp who organized his "stable" as a satanic coven. "Sacrificed" young women who displeased him. A Massachusetts pimp and self-styled Satanist, Drew used the trappings of his twisted religion to keep prostitutes in line, compelling their participation in cult rituals and threatening savage violence if they tried to reject his "protection."
Haha, have you seen his website? I just came across it a few days ago,
http://carldrewsfight.com
This is awesome. Thanks.
https://www.rt.com/news/344673-mexico-rape-whistle-mayor/
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on May 29, 2016, 03:13:44 AM
https://www.rt.com/news/344673-mexico-rape-whistle-mayor/
This reminds me of that quote from Seven, at least I think it was Seven, when he says in modern female self defense classes they are instructed to yell 'Fire!' if they are being attacked because people typically ignore cries of 'Rape!' or 'Help me!'. Or in Mexico's case apparently that probably won't even work.
i don't know if it was mentioned here, but i would like to think about "fangirling a little" i've been through the net and i found a plenty of movies, blogs, webpages about being a fan of a serial killer (i remember somebody linked a interview with some teenagers) but yeah, i've seen like fangirls for Eric Harris or some others but now i saw a channel of a women in love with Ted Bundy and that really interested me. And sometimes i'm thinking about the whole idea of their actions, if i'd be brutal and kill, it would be easier to find love? That's where our society went? Anyway, heres the link to the channel
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCY69kRZzcZD-duvhT5X6K9A (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCY69kRZzcZD-duvhT5X6K9A)
ahaha that channel is amazing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqJveHD3WgE
Working Class Hero
http://touch.orlandosentinel.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-87436801/ (http://touch.orlandosentinel.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-87436801/)
Quote from: cutter on June 04, 2016, 03:17:08 PM
i don't know if it was mentioned here, but i would like to think about "fangirling a little" i've been through the net and i found a plenty of movies, blogs, webpages about being a fan of a serial killer (i remember somebody linked a interview with some teenagers) but yeah, i've seen like fangirls for Eric Harris or some others but now i saw a channel of a women in love with Ted Bundy and that really interested me. And sometimes i'm thinking about the whole idea of their actions, if i'd be brutal and kill, it would be easier to find love? That's where our society went? Anyway, heres the link to the channel
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCY69kRZzcZD-duvhT5X6K9A (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCY69kRZzcZD-duvhT5X6K9A)
Endlessly fascinating how serial/spree killers have groupies, Ted Bundy being one of the most notorious and popular. Eric Harris (not Dylan though haha) is another one that when I can recall being popular with teenage girls as mentioned. Charles Manson is married (still?) I believe, Richard Ramirez was as well. Apparently some women love filth and violence!
Quote from: Fluid Fetish on June 08, 2016, 12:24:28 AM
Quote from: cutter on June 04, 2016, 03:17:08 PM
i don't know if it was mentioned here, but i would like to think about "fangirling a little" i've been through the net and i found a plenty of movies, blogs, webpages about being a fan of a serial killer (i remember somebody linked a interview with some teenagers) but yeah, i've seen like fangirls for Eric Harris or some others but now i saw a channel of a women in love with Ted Bundy and that really interested me. And sometimes i'm thinking about the whole idea of their actions, if i'd be brutal and kill, it would be easier to find love? That's where our society went? Anyway, heres the link to the channel
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCY69kRZzcZD-duvhT5X6K9A (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCY69kRZzcZD-duvhT5X6K9A)
Endlessly fascinating how serial/spree killers have groupies, Ted Bundy being one of the most notorious and popular. Eric Harris (not Dylan though haha) is another one that when I can recall being popular with teenage girls as mentioned. Charles Manson is married (still?) I believe, Richard Ramirez was as well. Apparently some women love filth and violence!
and that's what i've been thinking about, in this modern society, wouldn't be easier to make women love you by being a serial killer? i think, that is kinda worth of reflection
https://www.thesun.co.uk/uncategorized/1248036/singer-drinks-blood-from-madeleine-mccann-doll-and-promises-to-reveal-what-really-happened-to-missing-tot/?CMP=spklr-_-Editorial-_-FBPAGE-_-TheSun-thesun-_-20160608-_-News-_-486556665-_-Imageandlink#/time-to-meet-this-years-big-brother-hopefuls/
Something else that is fascinating, to me at least, is the romanticizing and glorification of spree killers that has become prominent with millenials (the greatest generation of course). Hell, even the popularity with spree killing amongst millenials in general is extremely fascinating! But I guess for me the intriguing part is that it's the fact that people's existences in the modern world are so banal, empty and worthless that they as 25 year olds worship as "saints" socially frustrated, virgin, high school kids who go on shooting sprees. People like this guy:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kimveer_Gill
The hilarious pattern is almost the same every time. Emotionally and socially misaligned and immature young adult male who usually has a shallow, surface level obsession with everything 'goth' and 'metal', indirect and incoherent rage aimed at society (despite usually having lived in comfort their whole lives), middle to upper class with too much free time to do things like play video games and fantasize, egotistical pictures of themselves holding weapons and looking 'evil' in front of their Nightwish posters, idolization of other social rejects/spree killers who they identify with etc...
No one seems to worship good old fashioned serial killers anymore.
Kimveer Gill described himself in his profile on Vampirefreaks.com, which is no longer accessible:
"His name is Trench. You will come to know him as the Angel of Death. [...] He is male. He is 25 years of age. He lives in Quebec. He finds that it is an O.K place to live. He is not a people person. He has met a handful of people in his life who are decent. But he finds the vast majority to be worthless, no good, conniving, betraying, lying, deceptive, motherfuckers. Work sucks... School sucks... Life sucks... What else can I say. Metal and Goth kick ass. Life is like a video game, you gotta die sometime."
Quote from: Peterson on June 09, 2016, 04:02:36 AMThe spree killers, on the other hand, seem to be emotionally maladjusted because of their relative comfort in life, which enables the rich fantasy/imagination, which in turn serves the maladjustment further. If you're an angry, horny, but wimpy teenager, it seems like you'd relate a lot more to the Columbine kids than Ted Bundy, I guess.
I think your post is dead on correct and part of what makes the whole matter fascinating, but what is truly bizzare to me is people like Kimveer who are 25 years old yet idolize 17/18 year old high school kids and compare them literally to 'saints' while mimicking their behavior. I wasn't the most mature or intelligent at 25 myself but I think I'd have to do a pretty quick mental checklist on myself if I was looking up to teenagers at that age, but as you nailed it they live in a fantasy world. And there is tons more like him out there which makes it even more interesting..
http://metro.co.uk/2016/06/08/boyfriend-knocks-girlfriend-to-the-ground-with-repeated-punches-5930443/
Link should be called "boyfriend-knocks-girlfriend-to-the-ground-with-repeated-punches-after-getting-beat-on-by-girlfriend"
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on June 09, 2016, 07:54:41 PM
http://metro.co.uk/2016/06/08/boyfriend-knocks-girlfriend-to-the-ground-with-repeated-punches-5930443/
Link should be called "boyfriend-knocks-girlfriend-to-the-ground-with-repeated-punches-after-getting-beat-on-by-girlfriend"
haha good point, but calling it that wouldn't be as controversial, outrageous and sensational!
Also the last sentence in the article is hilarious:
No police arrived on the scene during the incident and nor have they commented on the matter.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/the-times/hundreds-watch-as-islamic-state-burns-sex-slaves-in-mosul/news-story/fa81dbb13424017cca9be3204a724eb1
Sheriff's report of search of Michael Jackson's home:
http://radaronline.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/mj-docs.pdf
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on June 22, 2016, 02:00:10 AM
Sheriff's report of search of Michael Jackson's home:
http://radaronline.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/mj-docs.pdf
All this stuff that's come out is crazy
to chime in on spree/serial killers: serial killers are compelling because they are acting out of a sexual compulsion (more often than not) that they have to cultivate into a series of clandestine and intricately planned procedures in order to fully enjoy an illegal, immoral experience. spree killers are socially frustrated, succumbing to social pressures, lashing out instead of conforming to simple rules or adjusting their own perspective. it's about emotional un-fulfillment, rather than sexual control, which is not nearly as interesting.
On that note, under "Photography and Art," he apparently had a copy of Skinhead by Nick Knight.
Quote from: theotherjohn on June 22, 2016, 08:45:05 PM
A slightly more diverse look into his collection, each book with added annotations: http://rhythmofthetide.com/michael-jacksons-library-favorite-books/
QuoteWithout Sanctuary: Lynching Photography in America, by James Allen
Now that's creepy...
impressive book by the way... recently got a copy for 35 euro
Seems like serial killer worship is the outcome of internet blogs dedicated to them. Sotos would be proud.
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/524604/Serial-killer-tattoos-death-threats-craze-Myra-Hindley-Charles-Manson-Nightstalker
https://www.conservativeoutfitters.com/blogs/news/listen-full-911-call-audio-of-texas-mother-shooting-her-2-daughters
Love the comments section.
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/526550/gay-british-youtube-star-beat-himself-up-with-phone-in-prison-cell-west-hollywood
Italian crusty punk kills young American republican-wanna-be
http://roma.corriere.it/foto-gallery/cronaca/16_luglio_06/fate-schifo-confessate-l-inquietante-dialogo-fb-dfa3e3ce-43c1-11e6-831b-0b63011f1840.shtml
http://roma.corriere.it/notizie/cronaca/16_luglio_05/max-cani-vita-sotto-ponte-sisto-io-foto-lui-non-cattivo-45e79b10-42ed-11e6-b736-d853470efb0e.shtml
Apparently the same guy is suspected to have killed in the same way another guy a few years ago and there is people stating this on facebook.
Quote from: tiny_tove on June 30, 2016, 02:03:37 PM
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/526550/gay-british-youtube-star-beat-himself-up-with-phone-in-prison-cell-west-hollywood
spazz
http://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-36743033?ocid=socialflow_facebook&ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbcnews&ns_source=facebook
acab
violence in our minds!
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1410632/dallas-shooting-black-power-political-organization-claim-responsibility-after-snipers-shoot-police-officers/?CMP=spklr-_-Editorial-_-FBPAGE-_-TheSun-thesun-_-20160708-_-News-_-511865412
Quote from: tiny_tove on July 08, 2016, 09:55:22 AM
http://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-36743033?ocid=socialflow_facebook&ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbcnews&ns_source=facebook
acab
for any non slang aware folks acab stands for all coppers are bastards
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEQQS4pml3c
Quote from: tiny_tove on July 10, 2016, 07:11:51 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEQQS4pml3c
ha! great! some of the comments!
has this been mentioned?
intense dude decides its time to clean up & shoots teenage burglars
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyZxtz-4PKU
The owner of the home should be able to sit in his dark basement, with a gun, talking to himself & if someone breaks in, then they should accept the risk of possibly getting shot by that homeowner whom could be sitting in the basement, with a gun, talking to himself.
He could have saved himself some trouble by turning off the security system...
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on July 13, 2016, 08:15:22 PM
The owner of the home should be able to sit in his dark basement, with a gun, talking to himself & if someone breaks in, then they should accept the risk of possibly getting shot by that homeowner whom could be sitting in the basement, with a gun, talking to himself.
He could have saved himself some trouble by turning off the security system...
If I was breaking into someone's house, not that I ever have *cough*, the first thing that I would be concerned about at the forefront of my brain would be, this guy may be in the next room...talking to himself...with a gun....preparing to record the audio of my summary execution. Also did you mean turn ON the security system? haha
From what I read I think the reason he was charged and sentenced was because he shot the kids execution style after they were probably already dead anyway. Also, when you record yourself killing someone and while you were doing so you say "Whoops, sorry about that." right before you shoot them in the face at point blank range followed by "You're dying now bitch!" as you shoot a 17 year old girl multiple times while she's screaming in complete terror, probably not going to look good in court haha. Personally, I wouldn't hesitate to kill anyone breaking into my house, I don't think I'd enjoy it as much as this guy seemed to but never the less I don't blame him much.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIVG2bOwi2c
Also, has anyone seen this? Probably one of the most interesting videos I've ever seen, it's one of the five cops killed in the recent shooting. A good example of how adrenaline can get you killed? I wonder what the cop was thinking rushing the shooter by himself with only his police glock.... as wreckless as it is it's damn brave and admirable to attack an enemy who has you outgunned. You can tell this shooter knew what he was doing as he uses his military training to lay down suppressing fire and then flanks the cop, and then executes him.
If his security system had been off there would have been less evidence against him. I assume it was used against him in court?
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on July 14, 2016, 01:20:28 AM
If his security system had been off there would have been less evidence against him. I assume it was used against him in court?
Now I see what you mean, from what I remember reading you're right, the video camera footage as well as the audio recording were cited as the main reasons he was sentenced.
Quote from: Fluid Fetish on July 14, 2016, 01:33:05 AM
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on July 14, 2016, 01:20:28 AM
If his security system had been off there would have been less evidence against him. I assume it was used against him in court?
Now I see what you mean, from what I remember reading you're right, the video camera footage as well as the audio recording were cited as the main reasons he was sentenced.
Perhaps we're onto a new creative subgenre. Some are willing to go to prison for their art.
edit
Good dialog, a bit weak on setting. Would've been better if the second victim copped it in a bathtub full of piss.
India 'gold man' battered to death
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-36804209
Website by the cop shooter in Louisiana yesterday:
http://convoswithcosmo.com/man-datory-watching-list/
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-07-26/stabbing-attack-in-japan/7660310 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-07-26/stabbing-attack-in-japan/7660310)
QuoteAsahi Shimbun reported that the suspect was quoted by police as saying "I want to get rid of the disabled from this world".
Another site said the priest was decapitated:
http://news.sky.com/story/slain-priest-forced-to-kneel-before-throat-cut-10512914
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jul/26/japan-care-home-attack-satoshi-uematsu-horrifying-vision-disabled-people (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jul/26/japan-care-home-attack-satoshi-uematsu-horrifying-vision-disabled-people)
Quote"I envision a world where a person with multiple disabilities can be euthanised, with an agreement from the guardians, when it is difficult for the person to carry out household and social activities," the letter said.
Uematsu's letter said he could "wipe out a total of 470 disabled individuals" by targeting two facilities for disabled people during the night shift, "when staffing is low".
"The act will be carried out speedily, and definitely without harming the staff. After wiping out the 260 people in two facilities, I will turn myself in."
Vancouver, BC downtown Eastside winning more awards:
http://www.theprovince.com/news/local+news/german+researcher+investigates+violence+downtown+eastside+drug/12110106/story.html
note reference to carpet knives that in UK are known as Stanley knives, a common weapon of football hooligans in times past.
they would put two blades in and separate them so that the resulting cut could not be sutured, leaving an almighty scar.
In Italian is called "taglierino" (little cutter), and in the 90's was the standard alternative to syringes for junkies/hiv positive criminals to extort money and rob people, especially in post offices and shops.
seems to have lost popularity, even with junkies who as far as media go, don't threaten with syringes in recent years.
as far as drug stories go it is' legal' highs getting it. noting that these are no longer legal in UK.
stories are similar to early ecstasy fatality stories
"they would put two blades in and separate them so that the resulting cut could not be sutured, leaving an almighty scar."
Ouch.
In the UK, Italy, etc., is it legal to carry a pocket knife?
In Texas, the overall length of the knife has to be under or no more than 9 inches. I'm not sure it matters whether it's a folder or not. I don't think a dagger is legal to carry (double-sided blade). I've never seen anyone with a large hunting knife sheath on their belt, just those carrying a large folder. Automatic knives are legal to own but not to carry unless you work as a EMT or law enforcement.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on August 12, 2016, 09:12:57 PM
In the UK, Italy, etc., is it legal to carry a pocket knife?
here you cannot bring around blades that are longer than 4 fingers.
I supposed you can have them as tools (see stanley knife, kitchen knife, swiss knife, leatherman), but if you have it with you when just walking around you get fined.
a swiss friend of mine got arrested (no kidding) for a swiss army knife of ridicolous size.
Restrictions on Carry in Texas:
It is illegal to conceal or open carry any knife with a blade over 5 ½ inches long
It is illegal to conceal or open carry throwing stars or any type of throwing knife
It is illegal to conceal or open carry dirks, daggers, stilettos, and other stabbing knives
It is illegal to conceal or open carry a bowie knife
It is illegal to conceal or open carry a sword or spear
The same site says "gravity knives" are illegal but butterfly knives are legal to own. I think they're the same? I don't know what a dirk is, either.
I use to carry a pocket knife every day but I've gotten out of the habit.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on August 13, 2016, 01:16:15 AM
Restrictions on Carry in Texas:
It is illegal to conceal or open carry any knife with a blade over 5 ½ inches long
It is illegal to conceal or open carry throwing stars or any type of throwing knife
It is illegal to conceal or open carry dirks, daggers, stilettos, and other stabbing knives
It is illegal to conceal or open carry a bowie knife
It is illegal to conceal or open carry a sword or spear
The same site says "gravity knives" are illegal but butterfly knives are legal to own. I think they're the same? I don't know what a dirk is, either.
I use to carry a pocket knife every day but I've gotten out of the habit.
A dirk is a Scottish word for knife. You can see Scotsman wearing them stuck into the side of their socks when they wear a kilt.
UK laws on knives are very restrictive.
even 'legal' knives can get you arrested if the context makes it an offensive weapon. so for example you can have knives lawful within the context of hunting or fishing etc but if they are found on you, rather than in your equipment, you could be arrested for carrying an offensive weapon.
slightly more lightheartedly, zombie hunting knives are to be outlawed. seems people may not restrict use to zombies. who would have guessed?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-37103668 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-37103668)
India deaths as kite string slits throats
Quote from: Si Clark on August 17, 2016, 01:12:08 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-37103668 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-37103668)
India deaths as kite string slits throats
(https://40.media.tumblr.com/2f6ab28673b34cf2ebd062218152f14a/tumblr_nm7imhE0og1u34e9wo1_500.jpg)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3745055/Girl-4-zip-tied-bed-beaten-covered-scars-bruises-said-thought-Idiot-mother-boyfriend-arrested.html
Quote from: Scat-O-Logy on August 18, 2016, 12:44:43 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3745055/Girl-4-zip-tied-bed-beaten-covered-scars-bruises-said-thought-Idiot-mother-boyfriend-arrested.html
Fuck..
Also, is that guy named after Blowfly?
http://www.courierpostonline.com/story/news/2016/08/17/camden-woman-admits-sex-trafficking/88918186/ (http://www.courierpostonline.com/story/news/2016/08/17/camden-woman-admits-sex-trafficking/88918186/)
"The victim escaped on the way to Atlantic City, when the group stopped at a Gloucester City residence. The victim went inside and called the police, according to the U.S. Attorney's Office."
South Jersey sex trafficking... I guess some people aren't as good at it.
Quote from: Scat-O-Logy on August 18, 2016, 12:44:43 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3745055/Girl-4-zip-tied-bed-beaten-covered-scars-bruises-said-thought-Idiot-mother-boyfriend-arrested.html
Stop breeding, you fucking worthless
filth!
there should be a license for breeding.
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on August 18, 2016, 05:02:21 PM
Quote from: Scat-O-Logy on August 18, 2016, 12:44:43 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3745055/Girl-4-zip-tied-bed-beaten-covered-scars-bruises-said-thought-Idiot-mother-boyfriend-arrested.html
Stop breeding, you fucking worthless filth!
Exactly.
The hilarious thing is that this is the norm now in the US. There are thousands if not millions of these drug addled, half retarded, mongoloid simians staggering around with their disgusting brood always tailing them through every possible nook and cranny of civilization. All of them half drooling, eatting, living off of welfare, and decked out in the latest sports and/or juggalo wear. And they never seem to stop spitting out more and more disgusting little mulatto shits.
Also I love how the 12 year old kid in the background of the one picture is throwing up the 'west side' little gang sign. hahah
Quote from: tiny_tove on August 18, 2016, 05:25:12 PM
there should be a license for breeding.
so true but we all know that the very people who should, would never be bothered to apply
what disgusting people...
http://www.koat.com/news/sources-police-investigate-killing-of-9yearold-girl/41351480.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-37172002
Properly tough on crime...
"Ahead of his election, he promised to kill 100,000 criminals in his first six months in office."
http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/28/us/new-mexico-child-murder/index.html
"Martens told police her daughter was given methamphetamine "to calm her down" and that Gonzales had sex with the girl, according to the complaint.
Martens told police Gonzales choked her daughter to death. But Gonzales denied any involvement in the killing, telling police it was Kelley, who he identified as his cousin, who stabbed and dismembered Victoria. Kelley "held her hand over" Victoria's mouth as Gonzales "committed the sexual act" while Martens watched, the complaint said. According to the document, "Michelle stated she watched this ... happen for sexual gratification."
Whoops, I see Bleak Existence beat me on that one already (pun not intended), that's what I get for posting while I'm at work.
I guess all I can say is meth is a fascinating drug, and along with the inherit exhaustion/psychosis that comes with heavy use it has a very interesting affect on the human mind, or stimulants as whole in general for that matter.
speed psychosis gets you to some odd places.don't think that drugging, fuckin, killing and dismembering a child is where most people end up.
child abuse and murder is what it is.
being judgemental (always a fun hobby), the human trash here didn't need drugs to destroy this girl's life.
another argument for spaying.
Quote from: david lloyd jones on August 29, 2016, 07:33:42 PM
speed psychosis gets you to some odd places.don't think that drugging, fuckin, killing and dismembering a child is where most people end up.
child abuse and murder is what it is.
being judgemental (always a fun hobby), the human trash here didn't need drugs to destroy this girl's life.
another argument for spaying.
Yeah don't get me wrong, I'm not stating that drugs specifically caused this, just that how amphetamine psychosis affects people is something extremely fascinating to me. Or how drugs and stimulants especially affect human behavior and physiology specifically. I've traveled the road myself and have a lot of personal experience in regard to the matter which is part of the reason I'm obsessed with it. Totally aware and agree of course that drugging your own child and watching someone fuck her to death isn't where most people end up of course, I think Philip K. Dick is a shining example of how drug induced psychosis can actually be beneficial especially in an artistic sense to give a contrasting example.
Edited to clarify my shitty grammar.
I think Philip K. Dick is a shining example of how drug induced psychosis can actually be beneficial especially in an artistic sense to give a contrasting example.
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an illustration, perhaps, and more luck than design, open to debate as well.
talking about any benefits to psychosis, is, to me, romantic and naïve.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/37219280/clowns-trying-to-lure-children-into-woods-locals-in-south-carolina-say (http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/37219280/clowns-trying-to-lure-children-into-woods-locals-in-south-carolina-say)
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on August 31, 2016, 05:34:19 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/37219280/clowns-trying-to-lure-children-into-woods-locals-in-south-carolina-say (http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/37219280/clowns-trying-to-lure-children-into-woods-locals-in-south-carolina-say)
GLAD TO SEE UNDER RELATED COMMENTS IS THE PHRASE 'YOU WHAT?'
"...FBI agents actually improved The Playpen site during the two weeks they had control, making it faster and more accessible."
http://reason.com/blog/2016/08/31/the-fbi-distributes-child-pornography-to
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on August 31, 2016, 08:23:08 PM
"...FBI agents actually improved The Playpen site during the two weeks they had control, making it faster and more accessible."
http://reason.com/blog/2016/08/31/the-fbi-distributes-child-pornography-to
even pre internet the FBI was named as a/the publisher of child porn in order to catch buyers, reprinting the same mags again and again
Quote from: david lloyd jones on August 31, 2016, 05:02:04 PM
I think Philip K. Dick is a shining example of how drug induced psychosis can actually be beneficial especially in an artistic sense to give a contrasting example.
an illustration, perhaps, and more luck than design, open to debate as well.
talking about any benefits to psychosis, is, to me, romantic and naïve.
[/quote]
A valid and understandable point, glorifying mental illness or drug induced psychosis is probably how it came across but not how I intended at all. I disagree that it's more 'luck then design' however.
I just believe that these factors can contribute to creativity in a variety of constructive and amazing ways but usually at great cost...another individual who I'm a fanatic fan of and another good example would be Syd Barrett.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on August 31, 2016, 08:23:08 PM
"...FBI agents actually improved The Playpen site during the two weeks they had control, making it faster and more accessible."
http://reason.com/blog/2016/08/31/the-fbi-distributes-child-pornography-to
I've heard very similar theories both paranoid and non-conspiratory that the FBI has done the same thing with drugs, distributing them and trafficking in order to achieve certain aims. Politicans have been doing it for years so no surprise I suppose.
lack of certifiable results/sources will always tend to vagueness and 'conspiracy theories' that murky the waters.
Quote from: david lloyd jones on September 02, 2016, 09:10:43 PM
lack of certifiable results/sources will always tend to vagueness and 'conspiracy theories' that murky the waters.
Well, although a lot of these theories have no certifiable results or sources, there are several instances historically of politicans and presidents over here in the US supporting drugs, drug cartels, and trafficking such as the Reagan administration being one of the most recent and obvious instances, so not all of these ideas are based on vague, tin foil hat wearing nonsense exactly.
US soldiers raping kids in abu ghraib.
http://www.mintpressnews.com/classified-evidence-us-soldiers-raped-boys-in-front-of-their-mothers/200160/ (http://www.mintpressnews.com/classified-evidence-us-soldiers-raped-boys-in-front-of-their-mothers/200160/)
The disappearence of Jacob Wetterling:
Minnesota man admits to abducting, killing 11-year-old in 1989
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN11C2AR
Any UK gang members here?
https://www.theguardian.com/channel-5-gangland/2016/aug/31/everything-you-need-to-know-about-gangland-uk
First they try to tax us without representation 240 years ago and then they steal the names of our gangs!
Moss Side Bloods and the Rusholme Crips does sound kind of cute though, silly Brits.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on September 09, 2016, 02:26:19 AM
Any UK gang members here?
https://www.theguardian.com/channel-5-gangland/2016/aug/31/everything-you-need-to-know-about-gangland-uk
don't see any cross pollination between inner city black crack gangsters and noise. if only! Vials of crack or heroin named after classic HNW releases etc. who could resist total slitting of throats crack? etc.
this portrays UK gangs in the usual banal context. black, drug and territory obsessed.
not to say this isn't true
a.local news is often punctuated with the fallout from this crape.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/sep/09/cell-of-french-women-radicalised-by-isis-behind-failed-notre-dame-attack?CMP=edit_2221
Other than the car being found, I haven't seen anything about the women arrested.
Quote from: david lloyd jones on September 09, 2016, 10:17:01 PM
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on September 09, 2016, 02:26:19 AM
Any UK gang members here?
https://www.theguardian.com/channel-5-gangland/2016/aug/31/everything-you-need-to-know-about-gangland-uk
don't see any cross pollination between inner city black crack gangsters and noise. if only! Vials of crack or heroin named after classic HNW releases etc. who could resist total slitting of throats crack? etc.
this portrays UK gangs in the usual banal context. black, drug and territory obsessed.
not to say this isn't true
a.local news is often punctuated with the fallout from this crape
Since there is a rap thread, I figured some had to be gang bangers, too.
I came across the UK show from comments on Twitter complaining that there were no white gangs included. Hell, I didn't know there were any blacks in the UK!
Skrrrr
I heard the story of 'Purple Aki' through some friends a while ago so was quite surprised to see this story about him. Crazy story about a huge guy who likes to feel people's muscles -
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-6d083913-0bfb-4988-8cd8-d126fa6dcff1
Quote from: Si Clark on September 12, 2016, 09:37:48 PM
I heard the story of 'Purple Aki' through some friends a while ago so was quite surprised to see this story about him. Crazy story about a huge guy who likes to feel people's muscles -
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-6d083913-0bfb-4988-8cd8-d126fa6dcff1
entertaining!
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on September 09, 2016, 02:26:19 AM
Any UK gang members here?
https://www.theguardian.com/channel-5-gangland/2016/aug/31/everything-you-need-to-know-about-gangland-uk
apparently.
no on camera shooting or killing is disappointing(don't even remember any dealing) and as a whole far too restrained to be that entertaining.
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/chris-halliwell-found-guilty-of-becky-godden-murder/ar-BBwli4e?ocid=
Travis buckle wasn't the only bad taxi driver
Reddit AMA (from about a year ago) with the police chief who headed the investigation into the JonBenet Ramsey murder. Pretty much flat out says he thinks the mother did it.
http://extras.denverpost.com/jonbenetAMA.html (http://extras.denverpost.com/jonbenetAMA.html)
Quote from: aububs on September 21, 2016, 12:38:38 AM
Reddit AMA (from about a year ago) with the police chief who headed the investigation into the JonBenet Ramsey murder. Pretty much flat out says he thinks the mother did it.
http://extras.denverpost.com/jonbenetAMA.html (http://extras.denverpost.com/jonbenetAMA.html)
http://www.aetv.com/specials/the-killing-of-jonbenet-the-truth-uncovered
That's an interesting documentary I watched a few weeks ago. I had forgotten pretty much everything about the case. Going by what's in the docu., the family didn't do it & the case will, most likely, never be solved. This docu.makes the case that Boulder police were dead-set on the parents right from the get-go & excluded everything else. The DA even went so far to try to suppress evidence another detective had about a break-in. That detective & another (I think) eventually resigned. There's lots of details about how she was killed along with photos.
I'm thinking I missed the first hour as I do not remember anything about the ransom note...
i'll watch that documentary when i get a chance. heard a lot of stuff over the years saying the brother did it and when the parents found out they covered it up.
kind of agree with bitewerks in that the explanation is family vs stranger culprit
various blogs have blamed both with family winning the legal argument,
but likely never satisfactorily concluded to conspiracy buffs satisfaction.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b07vxmxw/rubble-kings
docu about black new York gangs in the 70's
good archive footage.
didn't know their look was hell's angels inspired.
also, the reality behind 'the warriors' type films
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-37211348
http://www.towleroad.com/2016/07/serial-killer-stephen-port/
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/ex-radio-1-dj-chris-denning-jailed-for-catalogue-of-sex-crimes-on-young-boys/ar-BBx8qP6?li=AA59G2&ocid=spartandhp
more historic UK abuse.
as someone growing up in these times, was always aware that the 'glitter' ( no pun intended) hid something more unsavoury-even without awareness of these celebrity indiscretions.it seemed to permeate all of society.
http://thump.vice.com/en_us/article/afrika-bambaataa-sexual-abuse-zulu-nation-ron-savage-hassan-campbell
http://coed.com/2016/10/11/hi-walter-video-hoax-fake-kayla-berg-missing-evidence-disappearance-information-updates/
http://www.wsaw.com/content/news/Antigo-PD-investigating-if-Youtube-video-is-connected-to-missing-teen-396576361.html
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on October 12, 2016, 01:54:14 AM
http://coed.com/2016/10/11/hi-walter-video-hoax-fake-kayla-berg-missing-evidence-disappearance-information-updates/
http://www.wsaw.com/content/news/Antigo-PD-investigating-if-Youtube-video-is-connected-to-missing-teen-396576361.html
spooky/perverse
deez nutz will kill you
http://www.syracuse.com/crime/index.ssf/2016/10/mans_fiancee_to_murderer_why_did_you_have_to_kill_him_over_deez_nuts.html#incart_river_home (http://www.syracuse.com/crime/index.ssf/2016/10/mans_fiancee_to_murderer_why_did_you_have_to_kill_him_over_deez_nuts.html#incart_river_home)
Quote from: ConcreteMascara on October 13, 2016, 11:15:13 PM
deez nutz will kill you
http://www.syracuse.com/crime/index.ssf/2016/10/mans_fiancee_to_murderer_why_did_you_have_to_kill_him_over_deez_nuts.html#incart_river_home (http://www.syracuse.com/crime/index.ssf/2016/10/mans_fiancee_to_murderer_why_did_you_have_to_kill_him_over_deez_nuts.html#incart_river_home)
stupid is as stupid does.
Quote from: david lloyd jones on October 13, 2016, 08:14:59 PM
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on October 12, 2016, 01:54:14 AM
http://coed.com/2016/10/11/hi-walter-video-hoax-fake-kayla-berg-missing-evidence-disappearance-information-updates/
http://www.wsaw.com/content/news/Antigo-PD-investigating-if-Youtube-video-is-connected-to-missing-teen-396576361.html
spooky/perverse
i've seen that video earlier, actually, it was in like "weird videos compilation" but yeah someone said there that it's probably fake as the whole "hi Walter" series
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/man-arrested-for-murder-after-tattooing-victims-death-date-on-arm-and-creepy-thanks-for-everything-tribute/ar-AAkxVDh?li=AA59G2&ocid=
http://swordandscale.com/sword-and-scale-episode-20/
'A good whack to the back of the head preferable with a blackjack.'
Read:
https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/ravensbruck-nazi-germany-female-concentration-camp
While listening to:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCQ2NNgtNBg
Anyone have recommendations on serial killer/sex crime books? I just ordered "On the Farm" about Robert Pickton. I'm sure there's a bunch of titles I'm unaware of ,especially from the UK, published in the last six or seven years. I'm watching a couple of books on eBay about Jack the Stripper (see the Sotos thread in the classified forum) and there's one or two more on Pickton I've been looking at for awhile but never gotten around to ordering.
Has anyone been watching "The Killing Season" on A&E? A couple of, sort of, hipster investigators try to connect every single hooker killed in the U.S. to the Long Island Serial Killer. Basically, the premise is that there are an ungodly amount of active serial killers working all over the place, all the time, and they all know each other. A woman disappears= serial killer. And cops don't care, they're incompetent & the women as nothing but drug addict trash...
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on December 08, 2016, 08:58:28 PM
Anyone have recommendations on serial killer/sex crime books? I just ordered "On the Farm" about Robert Pickton. I'm sure there's a bunch of titles I'm unaware of ,especially from the UK, published in the last six or seven years. I'm watching a couple of books on eBay about Jack the Stripper (see the Sotos thread in the classified forum) and there's one or two more on Pickton I've been looking at for awhile but never gotten around to ordering.
Curious to know how On the Farm reads. I grew up in that area and remember the ongoing evening news reports of the arrest / trial / conviction.
QuoteAnyone have recommendations on serial killer/sex crime books?
I recommend:
"Green River, Running Red" by Ann Rule - Gary Ridgway (this book is
so fucking bleak)
"The Stranger Beside Me" by Ann Rule - Ted Bundy
"The Night Stalker" by Philip Carlo - Richard Ramirez (read this listening to Slayer hot summer nights)
"When The Monster Comes Out Of The Closet" by Lori Steinhorst - Westley Allan Dodd
"Female Serial Killers" by Peter Vronsky (read this while watching
Monster and drinking alcohol)
"No Mercy" by John Walsh (this has some of the most violent descriptive paragraphs ever. Brutal.)
"Lost Girls" by Robert Kolker (if you like the trashiness of the L.I.S.K. case then go for it)
"The Franklin Coverup" by John W. DeCamp (child abuse conspiracy stuff)
"Streetwalker" by anonymous (prostitution memoir, jaded with some very sad parts, again, trashiness)
"A Stolen Life" by Jaycee Lee Dugard (kidnapping memoir written by survivor/victim. Explicit, sad and brutal)
"My Story" by Elizabeth Smart (same deal, but I really like what Jaycee has to say whereas this is just a book)
"Serial Killers: In Their Own Words" by Tom Philbin (more of an anthology of writings by serial killers, absolutely explicit and brutal, contains extensive section on Dodd)
"Talking With Serial Killers" by Christopher Berry-Dee (revealing information that lead to developments in cases, plus he thinks that Doug Clark is innocent and I wonder about that)
"The Serial Killer Whisperer" by Anthony Ciaglia (downright bizarre story about a teenage kid with brain injury who starts impersonating Elvis and writing to serial killers - this led to developments in the Bobby Joe Long case which I think is referenced on a couple Taint releases. One of the most entertaining books I've ever read)
"Predators" by Anna C. Sauter, PhD (this one is hefty with sad parts and such explicit brutality. Holy shit)
"Tiger, Tiger" by Margaux Fragoso (very explicit and bleak memoir of a woman's "romantic"/sexual relationship with the man who molested her for years)
Many of those you can find for less than five bucks and often at a thrift store or whatever. Might sound cheap but most of them are well-written and informative, with the ones that are not (Lost Girls, No Mercy) have a pretty interesting atmosphere to them and plenty of detail.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on December 08, 2016, 08:58:28 PM
Anyone have recommendations on serial killer/sex crime books? I just ordered "On the Farm" about Robert Pickton. I'm sure there's a bunch of titles I'm unaware of ,especially from the UK, published in the last six or seven years. I'm watching a couple of books on eBay about Jack the Stripper (see the Sotos thread in the classified forum) and there's one or two more on Pickton I've been looking at for awhile but never gotten around to ordering.
Has anyone been watching "The Killing Season" on A&E? A couple of, sort of, hipster investigators try to connect every single hooker killed in the U.S. to the Long Island Serial Killer. Basically, the premise is that there are an ungodly amount of active serial killers working all over the place, all the time, and they all know each other. A woman disappears= serial killer. And cops don't care, they're incompetent & the women as nothing but drug addict trash...
will try to sort list of recent uk books on topic..
jack the stripper is obscure, even in uk. there are two books on him as true crime and one as faction.
original crime book is rare-written by uk tabloid journalist.
recent 'jack of jumps' should be easier to get and is more expressionistic, forget the title and author of the fiction, but will look up.
this was likely Stuart home or cath unsworth
Hunting Humans: An Encyclopedia of Modern Serial Killers (1990) is all I need. Compact and precise. Really don't need to read hundreds of pages about some homicidal bed-wetter's psychological turmoils.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on December 08, 2016, 08:58:28 PM
Anyone have recommendations on serial killer/sex crime books?
People Who Eat Darkness by Richard Lloyd Parry, about the Korean-Japanese rapist and killer Joji Obara. It's a kind of literary true crime book in the tradition of Norman Mailer and Gordon Burn's stuff, and it's very well done indeed - doesn't skimp on any unpleasant details and the fact that the guy really can put a sentence together makes it much more powerful than the usual Ann Rule or Wensley Clarkson trash.
just read The People Who Eat Darkness earlier this year and yes it's great. And anyone i've recommended it to has thought the same.
don't think it was mentioned above but Final Truth: Autobiography of a Serial Killer by Donald Gaskins is probably one of the most repulsive things i've ever read.
I doubt I have the Gaskins book but I use to. He was rather extreme; he's the one who raped a newborn infant, right? After killing its mother... I'll have to check the local used bookstore to see if they have a copy.
The People Who Eat Darkness is on eBay for a reasonable price so I'll order a copy soon.
I have an early hardcover edition of The Sexual Criminal. I think I may have his other book, too, but it doesn't have any of the pretty pictures.
Highly recommend "Finding Jacob Wetterling: The 27-year investigation from kidnapping to confession" by Robert M. Dudley
https://www.amazon.com/Finding-Jacob-Wetterling-Investigation-Kidnapping/dp/1476668922
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on December 12, 2016, 01:12:17 AM
I doubt I have the Gaskins book but I use to. He was rather extreme; he's the one who raped a newborn infant, right? After killing its mother
yup that's him.
Guy I knew, used to hang out with - "victim of gun violence." One thing they neglect - he fucking got road rage and attacked the guy with a knife before getting shot.
http://gunmemorial.org/2016/12/25/graeme-whinery
what cracked me up was the 'do you have a better photo of graeme' under his pic
12 year old Katelyn Nicole Davis committed suicide and streamed in live on Facebook.
Link to her bio and a brief explanation of the story etc:
https://www.everipedia.com/katelyn-nicole-davis/
Link to the actual suicide video:
https://www.everipedia.com/katelyn-nicole-davis/36062448/
Quote from: .:Will:. on January 13, 2017, 11:34:22 AM
12 year old Katelyn Nicole Davis committed suicide and streamed in live on Facebook.
Link to her bio and a brief explanation of the story etc:
https://www.everipedia.com/katelyn-nicole-davis/
Link to the actual suicide video:
https://www.everipedia.com/katelyn-nicole-davis/36062448/
strangely bland despite the reality of the original post
am I just old or is this the new suicide note-with added picks?
Agreed. It's just kind of like "here is a girl and she is dying". Very calm. Still deep though considering a human being is losing her life with plenty of voyeurs looking on.
Someone has to take some of the footage of her body swaying like that and turn it into a video for some heavy HNW!!
I feel like an ass, it reminds me of my mid teens and the people I knew then, sad. I only watched her jump but her little speech was pretty heart breaking and dredged up some pretty evocative memories for me, I found the word 'depression' particularly piercing.
Quote from: theotherjohn on January 14, 2017, 01:38:50 AM
A morbid watch for sure, but after reading the book Autoerotic Deaths last year it was quite fascinating to observe the various stages in the agonal sequence. I'm sure 'The Working Group on Human Asyphyxia' have been reviewing it already: http://www.practicalhomicide.com/Research/JFSaug2010.pdf
as ever, strange to fear something so personal, reduced to something subject to academic study.
doubt that the suicides impulses were autoerotic, but accusatory-look what you made me do.
similar to parasuicidal acts but with a finality denying the other a response and all the more aggressive for it.
my response to the specific video was curiously, emotionless-from a number of perspectives.
as a psychiatric nurse, am aware that any parasuicide can be fatal as unconsciousness will kick in as soon as 10 seconds and so any planned acts from the suicides are useless, despite their intentions.
erotic asphyxiation and other acts seem like a whole different ball game, even/especially when they go wrong.
as mentioned before, the camera image appears to be a suicide with specifically accusatory implications-there is after all no possibility of reply to the act or even preventing it, despite any online streaming.
only afterwards does any response kick in and, for me, it relates to the loneliness and finality of the act.
Quote from: Si Clark on January 24, 2017, 01:50:57 PM
Interesting story about a recent child abduction case in the UK -
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-5667c315-a69c-4e5d-a683-e4e7771eb04d
victim porn deluxe.
or perhaps of the sub genre, survivor porn.
I would have thought it would be easy to destroy a thumb drive.
http://nypost.com/2017/01/27/professor-of-ancient-greek-and-roman-sexuality-imprisoned-for-child-porn/?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=NYPTwitter&utm_medium=SocialFlow&sr_share=twitter
https://www.google.com/amp/heavy.com/news/2017/02/liberty-german-abigail-williams-delphi-suspect-audio-murder-video-cell-phone-photo-indiana/amp/
"down the hill"
The way it plays as a loop is pretty interesting/disturbing...
well, yeah.
hope you recorded it and are looking for ways to intensify creepiness, ESP at cost of 'truth' of recording, whatever that was, ESP as too short and muffled to be meaningful.
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/mum-urged-son-to-kill-his-older-brother-before-he-was-attacked-on-sofa-with-knife/ar-AAo6Yen?li=AAmiR2Z&ocid=
proud to be British...
Cop blames backyard masturbation on 'tough times'
http://nypost.com/2017/03/27/cop-blames-backyard-masturbation-on-tough-times/ (http://nypost.com/2017/03/27/cop-blames-backyard-masturbation-on-tough-times/)
Quote from: ConcreteMascara on April 10, 2017, 11:37:04 PM
Cop blames backyard masturbation on 'tough times'
http://nypost.com/2017/03/27/cop-blames-backyard-masturbation-on-tough-times/ (http://nypost.com/2017/03/27/cop-blames-backyard-masturbation-on-tough-times/)
we all have 'tough times'
"stiff times"
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/british-fritzl-strikes-up-prison-371100
pervs who play together stay together.
Quote from: Peterson on April 18, 2017, 08:09:36 PM
That one reminds me of an article I read about Lawrence Bittaker and either Bill Bonin or Larry Eyler hanging out on the yard, even had a signed picture. Birds of a feather...
Pretty interesting how some offenders just seem to embody the bogeyman type physically, specifically Sydney Cooke. Almost surreal.
those east London paedos exactly embodied bogeymen.
the tragedy is that this is in hindsight.
also of note are the childish nicknames of these men- catweazle, hissing sid, odd body, all cartoonesque, and in line with their general social id'
only in a pack in private and en orgy do they reveal their true selves and motives, hence the difficulty in catching them.
equally, none of their victims were girls, blond or cute, but hustlers, grubby and non photogenic.
uk media had less interest in killers or victims than the likes of sara Chapman and the soham victims and Madeleine Maguire, the uk version of Jon Benet Ramsay.
re: pedo buddies link,
gather that sidney cooke of jason swift murders infamy, is wheelchair bound and pushed around by the british fritzl, as link explores.
Quote from: Peterson on May 23, 2017, 05:13:35 AM
http://people.com/crime/man-allegedly-castrated-transgender-woman-in-unsanctioned-surgery-she-underwent-out-of-desperation/amp/
Look at his eyes.
well yes, but look at all the adverts in this thread.
Quote from: Peterson on May 23, 2017, 05:13:35 AM
http://people.com/crime/man-allegedly-castrated-transgender-woman-in-unsanctioned-surgery-she-underwent-out-of-desperation/amp/
Look at his eyes.
Intense gaze... on several forums online there are guys advertising a desire to have this done to them. Weather or not these only are sexual fantasies I don't know...
Not related to castration but similar case of fantasies becoming reality: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armin_Meiwes
Quote from: Scat-O-Logy on May 23, 2017, 09:25:51 PM
Not related to castration but similar case of fantasies becoming reality: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armin_Meiwes
That guy became a rockstar. Interesting case.
Any sex crime-serial murder book recommendations? Especially UK books.
Has anyone read "Robert Black: The True Story of a Child Rapist and Serial Killer " by C.L. Swinney? I still have two books on Black but if this one particularly sleazy (kinda doubt it) or has new info, I'd go for it.
I have "People Who Eat Darkness" on the way & just finished a book on a serial killer whom was active in Nazi Berlin, Germany. I'm starting "Pig Farm" tonight & read the same author's first book on Robert Pickton a couple of weeks ago- "The Pickton File" which is rather pointless. Not a lot of info due to Canadian press rules. Hoping all the good stuff is in "P.F.".
Looking through eBay, I ran across this book, which, has the same image I used on "Indecent Liberties":
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Programmed-to-Kill-The-Politics-of-Serial-Murder-by-David-McGowan-Paperback-Boo-/160670194395?hash=item2568b09adb:g:a8sAAOSwZG9WkODq
My black and white image came out of a 'true detective' magazine (really wish I still had all of those mags!).
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on June 01, 2017, 03:26:02 AM
I'm starting "Pig Farm" tonight & read the same author's first book on Robert Pickton a couple of weeks ago- "The Pickton File" which is rather pointless. Not a lot of info due to Canadian press rules. Hoping all the good stuff is in "P.F.".
We PM'd about this for a minute a while back, but let me know how that Pig Farm book is. It is a shame there was a media blackout during the whole thing. Hopefully the guy has some decent intel.
It's "On the Farm" not "Pig Farm". "O.T.F." is by Stevie Cameron as is "The Pickton File".
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on June 01, 2017, 03:26:02 AM
Any sex crime-serial murder book recommendations? Especially UK books.
Has anyone read "Robert Black: The True Story of a Child Rapist and Serial Killer " by C.L. Swinney? I still have two books on Black but if this one particularly sleazy (kinda doubt it) or has new info, I'd go for it.
I have "People Who Eat Darkness" on the way & just finished a book on a serial killer whom was active in Nazi Berlin, Germany. I'm starting "Pig Farm" tonight & read the same author's first book on Robert Pickton a couple of weeks ago- "The Pickton File" which is rather pointless. Not a lot of info due to Canadian press rules. Hoping all the good stuff is in "P.F.".
Looking through eBay, I ran across this book, which, has the same image I used on "Indecent Liberties":
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Programmed-to-Kill-The-Politics-of-Serial-Murder-by-David-McGowan-Paperback-Boo-/160670194395?hash=item2568b09adb:g:a8sAAOSwZG9WkODq
My black and white image came out of a 'true detective' magazine (really wish I still had all of those mags!).
People Who Eat Darkness shouldn't disappoint. Goes into quite a bit of depth when looking at Tokyo's seedy underbelly and has a broader focus than I had expected. Author gets clearly very emotionally attached to both the case and the family of Lucy Blackman which give's it an extra edge.
UK/Irish recommendations:
Gordon Burn - 'Happy Like Murderers'. Obvious choice but truly great book. Very well written and really captures the gritty day to day life of the Wests in between the more grisly sections. Some interesting details, such as Fred West apparently accidentally running over and killing a kid in his van while in Glasgow... Almost every person in the book has been abused or dishes it out themselves. Grim.
Paul Williams - 'Almost the Perfect Murder: The Killing of Elaine O'Hara' - Garda investigation into S&M relationship between a family man architect and woman with severe mental health issues that gets hugely out of hand...Book prints transcripts of text messages etc. Not particularly well written but its a gripping case and a page turner.
I have Gordon Burn - 'Happy Like Murderers' & remember it being one of the best. I think I own 4 or 5 books on The Wests. Seems like another good one was "An Evil Love".
totally agree
lurid
focuses mostly on their sex live than the murders
Gordon Burn's books are superb, "Somebody's Husband, Somebody's Son: The Story Of Peter Sutcliffe" is also well worth reading.
I often wondered about "happy like murderers" as he seemed to have figured out more possible grave sites, but as far as i know the police have never followed it up. What a treasure trove that would be to stumble across.
'lambs to the slaughter' on the east london paedophile ring.
'the lost british serial killer' by wilson and harrison, on peter tobin, forgotten killer.
'found naked and dead', b mc connell and 'jack of jumps' d seabrook, both on the anon serial killer late 50's early 60's who killed on london, was never found but the main suspect suicided and no deaths after.
'hunting evil' re the suffolk strangler
'prime suspect' by christopher berry-dee, on the likely killer of Suzie lamplugh
there is at least one other book covering suzie lamplugh and other western hostesses.
'tokyo underworld' by us writer does what says on title-cops and yakusa..
"Lambs..." & "Found Naked & Dead" I already own. Seems like both were difficult to find at the time. "Lambs..." b/c I didn't know the authors name & there are other books with the same title. It's a good one! Are the other Jack the Stripper books worth picking up?
I'm watching "The Lost British Serial Killer" on eBay; a US dealer has it for a low price.
Digging out books off a low shelf obscured by LP boxes, I found my copy of "Happy Like Murderers" plus "I'm Jack", "Monsters of the Moors", "F.N.A.D.", "Blind Fury", "The Riverman", a couple of Daniel Mannix pb's, & a few others all covered in dust.
i enjoyed 'jack of jumps' both as a book on a rare, forgotten serial killer, and as reading.
if you like fiction, referring to real events, then recent books by kath unswerth may suit...most recent referring to a sex killer in soho in ww2 london, and before that, relating to jack the stripper.
http://themiamigazette.com/cannibals-arrested-florida-claim-eating-human-flesh-cures-diabetes-depression/
(http://themiamigazette.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Cannibals.png)
QuoteWhen the officers arrived at 3845 Toolson Lane, they repeatedly knocked on the door and rang the doorbell, however, nothing could be heard over the sound a stereo inside the house repeatedly playing the same song, which was later identified as – Enya's 'Who Can Say'.
Knew there was something wrong with people who like Enya. Had to have been easy for them to "befriend" the homeless drifters when you look like that...
Quote from: tiny_tove on June 04, 2017, 12:25:47 AM
http://themiamigazette.com/cannibals-arrested-florida-claim-eating-human-flesh-cures-diabetes-depression/
(http://themiamigazette.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Cannibals.png)
would rather be diabetic and depressed than look like these cannibals.
I wish I could look like that at whim. Would be great freaking out people I don't like.
Little Omie Wise:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omie_Wise
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRAAF_MqVi0
"Little Omie, little Omie, I'll tell you my mind.
My mind is to drown you and leave you behind."
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on June 07, 2017, 10:33:59 PM
Little Omie Wise:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omie_Wise
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRAAF_MqVi0
"Little Omie, little Omie, I'll tell you my mind.
My mind is to drown you and leave you behind."
Nice. Always liked that song but never looked into the story.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on June 07, 2017, 10:33:59 PM
Little Omie Wise:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omie_Wise
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRAAF_MqVi0
"Little Omie, little Omie, I'll tell you my mind.
My mind is to drown you and leave you behind."
great old rhyme.
reminds me of 'mary bell' by monte cazazza, a modern take on this type of song, based on uk child murderer of same name, herself a child at the time, and documented in the book by gita sereni, ,
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/first-picture-of-uks-youngest-double-killers-who-butchered-her-sister-13-and-mum-before-having-sex/ar-BBCkX56?li=AAmiR2Z&ocid=spartandhp
teens have all the fun
Quote from: david lloyd jones on June 09, 2017, 08:31:16 PM
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/first-picture-of-uks-youngest-double-killers-who-butchered-her-sister-13-and-mum-before-having-sex/ar-BBCkX56?li=AAmiR2Z&ocid=spartandhp
teens have all the fun
Younger than the boys that murdered the little boy that Sotos wrote about? Or was it just the victim was really young? I had a book or 2 about that case but not sure I still have them.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on June 09, 2017, 09:22:16 PM
Quote from: david lloyd jones on June 09, 2017, 08:31:16 PM
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/first-picture-of-uks-youngest-double-killers-who-butchered-her-sister-13-and-mum-before-having-sex/ar-BBCkX56?li=AAmiR2Z&ocid=spartandhp
teens have all the fun
Younger than the boys that murdered the little boy that Sotos wrote about? Or was it just the victim was really young? I had a book or 2 about that case but not sure I still have them.
jamie bulger's killers were younger and bulger himself a mere toddler.
the double killers reference is to the two victims.
even so, think mary bell was younger, but could be wrong
Quote from: KMusselman on June 22, 2017, 06:01:40 PM
The Monster of Florence
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2006/07/the-monster-of-florence/304981/?single_page=true
got a bootleg of an italian true crime thriller based on the case, and of course, there is the book.
Unabomber manifesto:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/longterm/unabomber/manifesto.text.htm
I wonder if he's keeping up with what's currently going on?
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on June 25, 2017, 03:20:41 AM
Unabomber manifesto:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/longterm/unabomber/manifesto.text.htm
I wonder if he's keeping up with what's currently going on?
i remember seeing something on tv about a college class getting in touch with him, post 9-11-2001, one of the questions they asked him was if he was aware of 'current events' and he said yes because he reads newspapers.
Quote from: KMusselman on May 31, 2017, 11:57:55 PM
"Beyond Reasonable Doubt" profiles the hunt for Green River Killer Gary Ridgway. Airs 9 p.m. Friday on HLN.
Trailer here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15wfSGfZSxI
Found a stream of this and gave it a go. A bit lackluster and the format isn't long enough to go too deep. Nothing special, some interesting footage of Ridgway though.
The stream is here for those interested: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5pbxyj
Wanted to watch the Rise and Fall of the Yorkshire Ripper, but there are a couple documentaries deliberately titled this on YouTube so I actually watched Manhunt: The Search for the Yorkshire Ripper instead. Worth watching. Nice document of the utter failures of the police. https://youtu.be/XiPGwB3cPh4
Quote from: KMusselman on July 11, 2017, 05:53:43 PM
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ore-woman-molested-female-alasla-airlines-plane-sentenced-article-1.3315694
Don't know why this strikes me as so funny.
"She then proceeded to grope the victim's breast, genitals and even licked her ear..."
I wonder if that was the order in which she did everything? The ear lick is a little much.
"I personally don't feel you know how much damage you have caused me,'' the woman wrote, according to Oregon Live. "That day you messed with my head and took something from me that I will never get back.'"
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on July 11, 2017, 10:08:32 PM"That day you messed with my head and took something from me that I will never get back.'"
Tf did she swallow her earring or what?!
Quote from: Scat-O-Logy on July 11, 2017, 10:13:50 PM
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on July 11, 2017, 10:08:32 PM"That day you messed with my head and took something from me that I will never get back.'"
Tf did she swallow her earring or what?!
ha ha
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/judge-rejects-andrea-giesbrecht-delay-motion-1.4204123
Andrea Giesbrecht has been sentenced to 8½ years in prison for concealing the remains of six infants in a storage locker in Winnipeg.
Quote from: absurdexposition on July 15, 2017, 04:36:06 PM
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/judge-rejects-andrea-giesbrecht-delay-motion-1.4204123
Andrea Giesbrecht has been sentenced to 8½ years in prison for concealing the remains of six infants in a storage locker in Winnipeg.
She looks the type.
Quote from: Deadpriest on July 15, 2017, 08:21:39 PM
Quote from: absurdexposition on July 15, 2017, 04:36:06 PM
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/judge-rejects-andrea-giesbrecht-delay-motion-1.4204123
Andrea Giesbrecht has been sentenced to 8½ years in prison for concealing the remains of six infants in a storage locker in Winnipeg.
She looks the type.
hate to sgree, but , yeah she does.
"Protect and serve" my fuckin' ass. ACAB
http://reason.com/blog/2017/05/23/oakland-cop-on-trial-for-sex-conspiracy
http://reason.com/blog/2017/07/13/oakland-police-corruption-comes-out
Quote from: Peterson on July 20, 2017, 12:34:06 AM
"Protect and serve" my fuckin' ass. ACAB
http://reason.com/blog/2017/05/23/oakland-cop-on-trial-for-sex-conspiracy
http://reason.com/blog/2017/07/13/oakland-police-corruption-comes-out
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looking at your links, the ad for boxer briefs with mesh here and there protected and served more than the cops.
4 fires/arson on one weekend in tiny town of joutseno, where we played last weekend, out there between imatra and lappeenranta... a paper recycling container, a big container, and 2 plastic containers by the graveyard.. and my favorite, which seems to go unreported, was the totally destroyed entrance to k-market grocery store, which some local guy smashed with a tractor, then chopped some shit down with an axe, all this round 6 a.m. on sat morning ...
cant find much more than this (sorry foreigners)
https://www.joutsenolehti.fi/2017/07/31/nelja-sytytettya-paloa-joutsenossa/
bottled up smalltown moon madness, and we were just passin through for a show haha... normipäivä!!
Any suggestions for books on (Mexican) drug cartels?
Quote from: wash in blood on August 11, 2017, 11:59:35 PM
Any suggestions for books on (Mexican) drug cartels?
I'm reading this at the moment:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Executioners-Men-Soldiers-Criminal-Entrepreneurs/dp/1412854849/ref=sr_1_sc_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1502495158&sr=8-1-spell&keywords=the+exectioners+men
Would recommend it.
Quote from: wash in blood on August 11, 2017, 11:59:35 PM
Any suggestions for books on (Mexican) drug cartels?
I think I read this and that it was good:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/El-Narco-Bloody-Mexican-Cartels/dp/1408889463/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1502561972&sr=1-3&keywords=narcos
Quote from: wash in blood on August 11, 2017, 11:59:35 PM
Any suggestions for books on (Mexican) drug cartels?
I can recommend
Blood + Death - The secret history of Santa Muerte and the Mexican drug cartels by John Lee Brook.
(http://www.headpress.com//Uploads/jpg/3D_Blood%20Death-hbk_250.jpg)
http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/wtf/murder-accused-wants-to-present-penis-as-evidence-his-fiancee-died-accidentally/news-story/46f2ca381a52bea9851f5d1f53c9c42c (http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/wtf/murder-accused-wants-to-present-penis-as-evidence-his-fiancee-died-accidentally/news-story/46f2ca381a52bea9851f5d1f53c9c42c)
he he he
https://www.texasobserver.org/cops-go-free-warrantless-body-cavity-search-houston-roadside/
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on August 13, 2017, 12:36:56 AM
Jack the Ripper could have been H.H. Holmes:
http://www.history.com/shows/american-ripper
Holmes is more interesting than I remember. I don't think I've read anything other than in books that compile murderers. His murder house is certainly interesting!
Am listening to something at the moment but the title of this video sounds fairly conclusive plus I heard there was DNA evidence before.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCF708Q45Ns
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/bjjv93/professor-allegedly-stabbed-boyfriend-70-times-as-part-of-sexual-fantasy-vgtrn
"Jemma Beale, 25, claimed she had been raped by nine men and seriously sexually by six in four different encounters..."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/08/24/woman-falsely-accused-15-men-rape-sexual-assault-jailed-ten/?WT.mc_id=tmg_share_tw
Quote from: Deadpriest on August 12, 2017, 09:20:45 PM
Quote from: wash in blood on August 11, 2017, 11:59:35 PM
Any suggestions for books on (Mexican) drug cartels?
I think I read this and that it was good:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/El-Narco-Bloody-Mexican-Cartels/dp/1408889463/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1502561972&sr=1-3&keywords=narcos
El Narco is recommended, the outsider perspective helps a lot, also recommend "In the Shadow of Saint Death" which is a more conventional history.
I would strongly recommend this:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Murder-City-Ciudad-Economys-Killing/dp/1568584490/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1504079090&sr=1-3&keywords=murder+city
His writing style takes a while to get used to but this book just drowns in fatigue at the killings. If I remember correctly at the back of the book he tried to document all the killings in one year and gave up around July because there was so many.
sorry to say, keith, that those ritual killer gold seekers can see through the cap disguise thing.
maybe an afro wig...
Texas. Football. Guns. Murder. America...
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/police-dead-shooting-north-texas-49759991
Quote from: slugbait on September 12, 2017, 01:03:25 AM
Texas. Football. Guns. Murder. America...
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/police-dead-shooting-north-texas-49759991
I'm only spit-balling but gas is expensive and it's more efficient if victims are all at one location so he invited them over. Or all of the victims were rooting for the team that beat the shit out of the shooter's favorite team.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on September 12, 2017, 01:49:57 AM
Quote from: slugbait on September 12, 2017, 01:03:25 AM
Texas. Football. Guns. Murder. America...
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/police-dead-shooting-north-texas-49759991
I'm only spit-balling but gas is expensive and it's more efficient if victims are all at one location so he invited them over. Or all of the victims were rooting for the team that beat the shit out of the shooter's favorite team.
Interestingly, the Cowboys won, decisively. They were busy grilling burgers or hot dogs during the day; perhaps a vegetarian put in a request and it wasn't received well.
Technically this is a mass murder, isn't it? Eight dead, not including gunman. But since the shooter seems to be known and not a stranger, does that still count as a mass murder? Or is this a case of just a little Texas fun gettin' out of hand?
Yeah, it's a mass shooting. I believe the FBI defines M.S. as 4+ victims in one location.
I just saw the incident on the news but no details other than the number of victims. It's hard to imagine what would drive someone to shoot everybody they invited over for burgers n' beer during the game. Texans do take their football seriously but this is ridiculous.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on September 12, 2017, 02:09:10 AM
Yeah, it's a mass shooting. I believe the FBI defines M.S. as 4+ victims in one location.
I just saw the incident on the news but no details other than the number of victims. It's hard to imagine what would drive someone to shoot everybody they invited over for burgers n' beer during the game. Texans do take their football seriously but this is ridiculous.
And yet, despite that this was a mass murder, it's gotten little to no coverage on the big news stations. Yes, Hurricane Irma is getting her 15 minutes of fame but, c'mon. If this had been at a mall or a school, this would be a big story. If the shooter had been named Ahmed, this would be cause for another war.
Interestingly, Plano is an upscale neighborhood. I'm not sure it's the Beverly Hills of Dallas but it's close. Usually that warrants more coverage in our news here because, well, wealthy lives matter (more)....
Plano has a nice, grim history. If interested, check out the teen suicide wave that hit the city in 1983. Kids were offing themselves left and right and the whole country was all "what the fuck?" It gave rise to TV movies (one with Charlie Sheen and another with Molly Ringwald) and some After School Specials about kids hanging it up.
Between the satanic panic, teen suicide, "this is your brain on drugs", and of course Crucifix, Discharge, DRI, Fear, etc...., I miss the '80s.
The local paper mentions that the female homeowner recently divorced her husband so it's probably going to the ex killing her & her family.
Plano is a city, not a neighborhood.
Confirmed that ex-husband is the killer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoN24V0p0ks
School shooting up here in Washington State. Noteworthy if only because shooter loved Breaking Bad. It IS a fantastic show. More disturbing (and why I enclosed a Yahoo link) are Yahoo commenters. I don't know but I'm guessing if you wanted a fair assessment of this country's net IQ and the mean level of its "intelligence", look no further than Yahoo comments on any story. We Americans just can't shut the hell up.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/breaking-spokane-schools-modified-lockdown-174054063.html
Quote from: slugbait on September 14, 2017, 07:07:00 PM
School shooting up here in Washington State. Noteworthy if only because shooter loved Breaking Bad. It IS a fantastic show. More disturbing (and why I enclosed a Yahoo link) are Yahoo commenters. I don't know but I'm guessing if you wanted a fair assessment of this country's net IQ and the mean level of its "intelligence", look no further than Yahoo comments on any story. We Americans just can't shut the hell up.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/breaking-spokane-schools-modified-lockdown-174054063.html
thank you for adding some much needed humor to my day
http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2017/09/cleveland_woman_repeatedly_sta.html#incart_river_home_pop (http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2017/09/cleveland_woman_repeatedly_sta.html#incart_river_home_pop)
"Cleveland woman repeatedly stabs boyfriend after finding him naked on top of 12-year-old daughter, reports say"
Quote from: ConcreteMascara on September 15, 2017, 07:17:42 PM
http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2017/09/cleveland_woman_repeatedly_sta.html#incart_river_home_pop (http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2017/09/cleveland_woman_repeatedly_sta.html#incart_river_home_pop)
"Cleveland woman repeatedly stabs boyfriend after finding him naked on top of 12-year-old daughter, reports say"
That sounds like trouble. Cleveland is a tough town. I like these two quotes from the article:
"The man told police that his girlfriend may have attacked him because she thought her 12-year-old daughter had feelings for him..."
"The woman and her daughter gave a different account of what happened."
http://reason.com/blog/2017/10/02/las-vegas-shooting-update-50-dead-more-t
Biggest mass shooting so far in U.S. At least 50 dead, 400 injured. Intense...
Anyone paying attention to the news on the LV massacre & have a half-cocked theory? Lots of conspiracy theories on gun forums about the guy. Everything from he was killed by someone else in the room to antifa literature found and photos of him in a pink outfit at a anti-Trump rally.
Last night, it was reported he was firing at some fuel tanks near the concert location but the bullets failed to penetrate. His car was packed with Tannerite but no word if it was mixed or if he tried firing at the car. If the Tannerite was mixed & he had hit it, it would have been one hell of huge explosion!
https://www.reviewjournal.com/local/the-strip/las-vegas-strip-shooter-targeted-aviation-fuel-tanks-source-says/
My guess is that he was just a tightly-wound guy who eventually snapped. Motive seems so unclear and unless anything else comes out, I just think he was tired of life and wanted to take folks out with him. Seems like he might've had some genetic issues re: his Dad's criminal history, but I dunno.
Quote from: Peterson on October 06, 2017, 12:15:54 AM
My guess is that he was just a tightly-wound guy who eventually snapped. Motive seems so unclear and unless anything else comes out, I just think he was tired of life and wanted to take folks out with him. Seems like he might've had some genetic issues re: his Dad's criminal history, but I dunno.
I think that is a very superficial, easy and safe way to see it. Most likely complex reason. I remember in Norway after Breivik shot those bunch a people there was a similar jargon in the public which was based in a collective self-denial, us vs them as well as two-face mentality, uh.... it was ridiculous the whole thing. Eh! We as a society are partially responsible for what he turned out to be. Looking past his grandiose self-worth and misguided political aspirations there were red flags all the way from his childhood throughout his adult life. In the end, he was neglected and shunned. This is what we get.
If I where to speculate on the US I see pe themes: Hate, alienation, radicalization, death drive, self-annihilation, a 'superior' psychology, mental illness (from depression to anti-social disorders) and - An inmost need to explode in all directions.
https://www.reviewjournal.com/local/the-strip/las-vegas-strip-shooter-targeted-aviation-fuel-tanks-source-says/
Frankly I don't see much of a difference between your examples and my assessment save for the "this is what we get" moral. I think it's fairly obvious society and it's myriad ills are at least partly to blame for individuals who "explode" etc. In all fairness, I don't see much "safety" in the idea that certain individuals might suddenly become violent in a way that's not meaningfully preventable, rather the opposite. Also, we knew Brevik had ideological motivations almost immediately, whereas there's more to be found regarding this guy. Call it "superficial" if you want, but saying there's still questions to be answered seems reasonable enough to me.
Quote from: Peterson on October 06, 2017, 04:09:00 AM
Frankly I don't see much of a difference between your examples and my assessment save for the "this is what we get" moral. I think it's fairly obvious society and it's myriad ills are at least partly to blame for individuals who "explode" etc. In all fairness, I don't see much "safety" in the idea that certain individuals might suddenly become violent in a way that's not meaningfully preventable, rather the opposite. Also, we knew Brevik had ideological motivations almost immediately, whereas there's more to be found regarding this guy. Call it "superficial" if you want, but saying there's still questions to be answered seems reasonable enough to me.
agree with you there. To me it seems you both say the same, just differently formulated.
all the planning appears to contradict any 'explosion' theories
buying and reconfiguring guns etc , recon, 3 days to move multi suitcases into room etc, etc.
dad a major psychopath- like father, like son...
Quote from: Sigil23 on October 06, 2017, 04:24:30 PM
Quote from: Peterson on October 06, 2017, 04:09:00 AM
Frankly I don't see much of a difference between your examples and my assessment save for the "this is what we get" moral. I think it's fairly obvious society and it's myriad ills are at least partly to blame for individuals who "explode" etc. In all fairness, I don't see much "safety" in the idea that certain individuals might suddenly become violent in a way that's not meaningfully preventable, rather the opposite. Also, we knew Brevik had ideological motivations almost immediately, whereas there's more to be found regarding this guy. Call it "superficial" if you want, but saying there's still questions to be answered seems reasonable enough to me.
agree with you there. To me it seems you both say the same, just differently formulated.
I disagree. 'To explode in all directions' can be a very thought through and reflected decision that at times correlate w fanti-social disorders/attitudes, deadly physical illness, etc. It's not about being crazy at all or snapping in my book. It is planned and pre-meditated act. In this concept, it is about killing oneself directly or in-directly (socially if one survives) and dragging along as much as possible life in the drain. See for instance the case of pilot Andreas Lubitz who allegedly crashed a Germanwings aircraft into the Alps back in 2015 and killing all 150 people on board. Brevik later said he never thought he would survive even though he planned his escape.
RE 'safety'... I was referring to this in conjunction w self-denial and not wanting to look into / at oneself as a means for self-preservation and upholding set self-image. In a very general term it is easier to blame one or 'the others' and not look at the society as a whole - or one's role in it. This was one of the fall pits Norway fell into during Breivik.
Anyways, this will for sure be an interesting case to follow.
There was never any implication in my comment that his actions weren't premeditated, I think it sort of goes without saying that it (obviously) was. For one, I don't understand how wanting more questions answered before trying to seriously imagine a viable motive equates with deflecting blame elsewhere (seriously??), and two, you seem to feel that "blame" is an important factor here for reasons that escape me. I think "blame" can be determined when you have more facts. Third, what some guy in Vegas killing 50 innocent people has to do with my own "self-denial" and "self-image" is rather abstract, not sure what you really mean by that. If you're just implying that society helps create violent folks, well, duh.
Quote from: Peterson on October 06, 2017, 06:55:57 PM
There was never any implication in my comment that his actions weren't premeditated, I think it sort of goes without saying that it (obviously) was. For one, I don't understand how wanting more questions answered before trying to seriously imagine a viable motive equates with deflecting blame elsewhere (seriously??), and two, you seem to feel that "blame" is an important factor here for reasons that escape me. I think "blame" can be determined when you have more facts.
I made the comment because I think it is an interesting case in progress just as you I suspect. I felt however that your comment about snapping was hasted and thin. As you mention, no word about not being premeditated. In regards to the rest, you jump too fast to conclusions and are so gravely off the point that it is difficult to follow you. It's not about blame at all, but responsibility among other things. I end my talk here, but look forward to hear US peoples experience around the case and the American society when it settles down.
Arctic style animal love:
https://www.nrk.no/nordland/naken-mann-gikk-til-angrep-i-fjos-i-lofoten-1.13725384 (https://www.nrk.no/nordland/naken-mann-gikk-til-angrep-i-fjos-i-lofoten-1.13725384)
Text in Norwegian. Headline reads: 'Naked man committed assault in stable'.
https://www.texasmonthly.com/the-daily-post/the-south-texas-fajita-bandit-has-finally-been-caught/
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on October 18, 2017, 09:56:36 PM
https://www.texasmonthly.com/the-daily-post/the-south-texas-fajita-bandit-has-finally-been-caught/
now i'm hungry.
http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2014/04/male_rape_in_america_a_new_study_reveals_that_men_are_sexually_assaulted.html?wpsrc=sh_all_mob_tw_top
re: fajita bandit
"it's worth noting that meat theft is a surprisingly common crime in the state of Texas."
stealing meat is actually big everywhere. a common scheme among food workers & delivery drivers.
where i am located now it is mostly illegal hunting with deer meat being passed around - hunting season began oct. 1st and my freezer is already stuffed with backstraps, yum. but in the past when i lived in non-rural areas have acquired a good deal of meat and/or food products meant for stores... literally falls off the back of the truck.
though that guy was pretty ballsy getting it delivered to a detention center, of all places. he probably just knew a lot of poor illegals and was hooking em up good. at least they gave him a heroic name.
http://www.newsjs.com/url.php?p=http://indianexpress.com/article/world/newtown-shooter-adam-lanza-had-pedophilic-interest-in-kids-fbi-4905425/
http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/24/us/sandy-hook-adam-lanza-unsealed-docs/index.html
If anyone knows where to read that unsealed FBI report, post a link or pm.
I guess it'll be a few years before we get a report on the Las Vegas shooter...
Quote from: KMusselman on October 25, 2017, 09:56:55 PM
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on October 25, 2017, 09:12:36 PM
If anyone knows where to read that unsealed FBI report, post a link or pm.
https://vault.fbi.gov/sandy-hook-elementary-school-shooting
thank you.
I started skipping through the documents and to my amusement the first thing I stop on says "Adam was into japanese techno music" and that just tickled me for some reason.
Quote from: KMusselman on October 25, 2017, 11:13:08 PM
Those e-mails that the Newton Bee newspaper received would make great content for a P.E. release!
(pages 146-161 of .pdf no. 3)
Agreed! Lots n' lots of crap to scroll down through. I didn't see anything about pedo interests mentioned in the news article. Seems kind of like that UK shooter PS wrote about.
Update on Stephen Paddock is he removed his hard drive so it's either hidden or destroyed and that he had purchased software to wipe it clean. That's rather disappointing that we will not find out what he was reading up on or posting on reddit. Also, one of his brothers was arrested for possession of a shitload of kaypee images.
I'm only posting this short article because the headline is just so great: "Iowa parents charged after baby found rotting in swing." The more common 'Dead in crib' or 'Strangled in carseat' pale in comparison to 'Rotting in swing.' Sounds like a line from an old Alice Cooper record. As well, in classic understated fashion, the line in the article, "The cause of death was a failure to provide critical care." No shit.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/alta-vista-iowa-parents-charged-after-baby-found-rotting-in-swing/
I saw the news about the Japanese serial killer last night:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/10/31/japanese-police-find-body-parts-hidden-coolers/817221001/
The History Channel is doing a series on the Zodiac Killer starting on November 14th & "Dahmer on Dahmer" will be on the Oxygen channel Nov. 11th.
Japan case is quite weird, nine bodies in two months they are alleging, but it is possible he was sourcing his victims from suicide forums.
one report said he was known to the police after bringing a woman to a bar where he knew she'd be forced into prostitution.
Bizarrely Tokyo Reporter has nothing on this case last I checked
http://www.tokyoreporter.com/2017/11/01/man-found-with-9-corpses-in-residence-once-worked-as-scout-for-sex-parlors-in-kabukicho/
http://www.tokyoreporter.com/2017/10/31/parts-9-corpses-found-in-zama-apartment-of-man-who-accessed-group-suicide-site/
"Two of them say he warned them: 'I'm going to rape you like I rape my daughter,' before attacking them and one says he punched her breast so hard her implant 'flipped'."
"'He continued to punch her, stating that: "Howie is the daddy. The daddy has to beat his baby.' The woman says he then raped her so violently it caused 'tears to her vagina'. "
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5046477/Top-investment-fund-manager-raped-beat-women.html
The ads are getting oddly related to news content nowadays...
(https://i.imgur.com/JaH572f.jpg)
Well, #owntheparty indeed I guess.
Quote from: KMusselman on November 12, 2017, 05:06:20 AM
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on October 31, 2017, 10:38:11 PM
on November 14th & "Dahmer on Dahmer" will be on the Oxygen channel Nov. 11th.
thanks for the tip, recording now!
Second half is on tonight. I missed the first 10 or so minutes last night but it's pretty decent, overall. Dahmer was a bit of a sadsack but still pretty damn interesting & he just
kept getting more n' more extreme.
I wonder if there are multiple serial killers of gay men currently working ? Seems like there has to be..
Tuesday night is the Zodiac series on History & I'm currently watching "Inside with Chris Cuomo" on HLN about sex trafficking.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on October 31, 2017, 10:38:11 PM
I wonder if there are multiple serial killers of gay men currently working ? Seems like there has to be..
Look up the Manchester Pusher
Quote from: cantle on November 12, 2017, 11:54:43 PM
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on October 31, 2017, 10:38:11 PM
I wonder if there are multiple serial killers of gay men currently working ? Seems like there has to be..
Look up the Manchester Pusher
I saw one of his supposed victims being dragged out of the waters by coppers on my way to work a couple of years ago
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/teenage-girl-escapes-through-window-after-being-held-captive-and-forced-into-sex-with-20-men/ar-BBF7C0X?li=AAmiR2Z&ocid=spartandhp
not only pakistani muslims it seems.
Quote from: NaturalOrthodoxy on November 13, 2017, 05:58:00 PM
Quote from: cantle on November 12, 2017, 11:54:43 PM
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on October 31, 2017, 10:38:11 PM
I wonder if there are multiple serial killers of gay men currently working ? Seems like there has to be..
Look up the Manchester Pusher
I saw one of his supposed victims being dragged out of the waters by coppers on my way to work a couple of years ago
Quote from: NaturalOrthodoxy on November 13, 2017, 05:58:00 PM
Quote from: cantle on November 12, 2017, 11:54:43 PM
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on October 31, 2017, 10:38:11 PM
I wonder if there are multiple serial killers of gay men currently working ? Seems like there has to be..
Look up the Manchester Pusher
I saw one of his supposed victims being dragged out of the waters by coppers on my way to work a couple of years ago
plenty here on this-http://thomassheridanarts.com/home.php
more likely that it's conspiratorial bullshit like the 'smiley face killers' created to explain the relatively high incidence of young men drowning after a night out because they're intoxicated etc
http://reason.com/blog/2017/12/07/4th-circuit-says-forcing-a-teenager-to-m
More so-called "law enforcement" molesting teens. This is what our taxes pay for.
Quote from: Peterson on December 07, 2017, 10:40:46 PM
http://reason.com/blog/2017/12/07/4th-circuit-says-forcing-a-teenager-to-m
More so-called "law enforcement" molesting teens. This is what our taxes pay for.
So a teenager takes pics of his own dick, then is guilty of possession of child pornography?! That's a special kind of retardation.
Quote from: Ashmonger on December 08, 2017, 08:55:36 AM
Quote from: Peterson on December 07, 2017, 10:40:46 PM
http://reason.com/blog/2017/12/07/4th-circuit-says-forcing-a-teenager-to-m
More so-called "law enforcement" molesting teens. This is what our taxes pay for.
So a teenager takes pics of his own dick, then is guilty of possession of child pornography?! That's a special kind of retardation.
HAHA! I saw that yesterday. Pervy cop indeed. I wonder what his power electronics moniker is?
Not so much true crime as bizarre antipornography propaganda for Christian perverts. But still...
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/is-the-cannibal-murder-another-fallout-of-porn
"Hussein K. not only raped Maria Ladenburger. He chew her breats (sic), her checks (sic) and her genitals to pieces and when he could not get an erection anymore tortured her with her hands and strangled her to death. She was volunteering for "refugees welcome"."
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2333501/maria-ladenburger-eu-rape-murder-afghan-asylum-seeker/
"So maybe 20-year-old Adam Lanza was a kind of pedophile whose idea of having sex with kids was to shoot them."
https://www.thedailybeast.com/we-already-know-what-adam-lanzas-real-motive-was-at-sandy-hook
https://www.thedailybeast.com/with-radio-call-adam-lanzas-disturbing-smiggles-trail
https://www.thedailybeast.com/adam-lanzas-terrifying-online-life-revealed-mass-shooting-spreadsheets-columbine-collages-and-murder-tumblrs
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on December 29, 2017, 01:09:05 AM
"So maybe 20-year-old Adam Lanza was a kind of pedophile whose idea of having sex with kids was to shoot them."
https://www.thedailybeast.com/we-already-know-what-adam-lanzas-real-motive-was-at-sandy-hook
https://www.thedailybeast.com/with-radio-call-adam-lanzas-disturbing-smiggles-trail
https://www.thedailybeast.com/adam-lanzas-terrifying-online-life-revealed-mass-shooting-spreadsheets-columbine-collages-and-murder-tumblrs
interesting. not aware of this guy.
in uk there is usually a trickle of missing children found dead stories where the offender is late teens early twenties, and where, i have always assumed there was a sexual element.
saw these as not really paedo, but the 'adolescent' need for sex murderously enacted.
Quote from: david lloyd jones on December 29, 2017, 04:24:17 PM
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on December 29, 2017, 01:09:05 AM
"So maybe 20-year-old Adam Lanza was a kind of pedophile whose idea of having sex with kids was to shoot them."
https://www.thedailybeast.com/we-already-know-what-adam-lanzas-real-motive-was-at-sandy-hook
https://www.thedailybeast.com/with-radio-call-adam-lanzas-disturbing-smiggles-trail
https://www.thedailybeast.com/adam-lanzas-terrifying-online-life-revealed-mass-shooting-spreadsheets-columbine-collages-and-murder-tumblrs
interesting. not aware of this guy.
in uk there is usually a trickle of missing children found dead stories where the offender is late teens early twenties, and where, i have always assumed there was a sexual element.
saw these as not really paedo, but the 'adolescent' need for sex murderously enacted.
worth looking into the conspiracy theories behind sandy hook shooting. some real mental stuff!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5238497/Somali-migrant-sexually-assaults-Italian-woman-labour.html
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on January 08, 2018, 11:10:16 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5238497/Somali-migrant-sexually-assaults-Italian-woman-labour.html
speechless
Maybe it was a fetish thing?
Here is an article about 'Murderpeg', Canada that was at the bottom of the Ripper-Sweden piece:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-dc75304f-e77c-4125-aacf-83e7714a5840
A good quote totally taken out of context:
"savage levels of violence are the fault of the women themselves"
https://localtvkdvr.files.wordpress.com/2018/01/report.pdf
Preliminary investigative report on the Los Vegas shooting released.
QuoteAdditionally, several hundred images of child pornography were located on
the computer's hard drive. The investigation into the source of these images is ongoing.
https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2018/01/19/barry-and-honey-sherman-were-murdered-sources-say.html
Headline sounds like a Christopher Morris sketch.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/fake-social-media-accounts-pretending-11175055
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/614830/Sonia-Sutcliffe-Peter-Sutcliffe-Yorkshire-Ripper-visits-hospital-prison
Toronto serial killer :
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/bruce-mcarthur-serial-killers-robert-pickton-1.4509608
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/bruce-mcarthur-what-we-know-1.4509436
'Hey, check out this awful, horrible video. I'm so outraged I'm going to go watch it again...':
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5357615/Suspect-victim-widely-shared-child-porn-video-identified.html
Penis hoarder
http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/fbi-seizes-over-3000-penises-during-raid-at-morgue-employees-home/
Quote from: tiny_tove on March 09, 2018, 02:14:11 PM
Penis hoarder
http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/fbi-seizes-over-3000-penises-during-raid-at-morgue-employees-home/
sad to report, but fake as they come.
yep but made me crack
Sex Hell:
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/britains-worst-ever-child-grooming-12165527
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5777071/telford-abuse-grooming-sex-gangs-victims/
https://twitter.com/hashtag/austinbombings?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
Serial Bomber attacking Austin TX
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/22/us/las-vegas-shooting-stephen-paddock.html
MGM security camera footage of Paddock moving all of his equipment into the hotel.
East Area Rapist suspect in custody
http://www.sacbee.com/news/local/crime/article209779364.html
Quote from: Potier on April 25, 2018, 07:46:38 PM
East Area Rapist suspect in custody
http://www.sacbee.com/news/local/crime/article209779364.html
This 'News' conference is on now but it's lite on actual info & heavy on DA's patting themselves on the back.
No info on how this guy came about other than he was surveilled & they obtained "abandoned" DNA to compare to what they already had. He's been charged with two murders from 1980.
EAR/ONS stuff is completely nuts
cannot believe they got him
This is incredible they caught him, one of the most legendary cold cases in serial killing, super interested to hear all the details once the trial starts!
Agreed with all of the above! Mom of all people was the one to tell me. I've read that some of the charges against Ramirez were actually attributed to this guy since they had similar tags and were operating simultaneously in the sane area at one point. I would say this is one of the most intruiging true crime cases, if not THE most.
i heard from a co-worker that the east area rapists dna was confirmed because a relative submitted dna to ancestry.com or something like that.... i haven't researched that fact myself, but if true i guess that means "someone, somewhere" is monitoring and comparing samples. seems like a painstaking and paranoia fueled task to endure. makes me think they had him, then used a stolen sample off a suspected family member as an "official" way to nab him.
" The police reportedly drew on the open-source GEDmatch service, which does not test DNA but allows users searching for relatives to them to upload the results of such tests from other companies. Apparently, a relative or two of DeAngelo had submitted test results to GEDmatch. This familial genetic link led the police to suspect DeAngelo. The police directly connected DeAngelo to the murders and rapes by matching old crime scene DNA to his obtained from some item(s) he had recently discarded in public."
http://reason.com/blog/2018/04/27/the-golden-state-killer-and-your-genetic
The mass van killing in Toronto was something I didn't pay much attention to. Apparently, it was done by a guy who can't get laid:
https://twitter.com/ArshyMann/status/988818797086871558
https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/pax9kz/a-brief-history-of-incel-the-misogynistic-group-allegedly-cited-by-toronto-van-attacker
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/8xkjbx/toxic-masculinity-is-at-the-heart-of-this-darkness
reports are saying that they going to try and use the same method they used for the GSK for the Zodiac case
anyone watch the Evil Genius doc that Netflix put out?
based on the Pizza Bomber case
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Brian_Wells
There's gold in them there skulls!
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-40185359
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on June 10, 2018, 09:51:30 PM
There's gold in them there skulls!
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-40185359
hm, well in noise terms, are the skulls of bald men better at producing power electronics? there may be a strong argument there but after thinking about it for 10 seconds and naming about as many bald PE guys, i'm thinking yes.
OT:
report on the police scanner earlier this week about a guy chasing another guy with an axe down the street from me. 1 in custody. next day "big killer john" who did 15 years in prison for attempted murder cashes in his $6 in natty daddys at my work and explains that it wasn't an axe, it was a sledge hammer. he was arrested, so i guess thats true crime.
http://santiagotimes.cl/2018/06/17/video-23-foot-long-python-swallows-woman-in-indonesia/
Didn't know where else to post this article, but it's worth a read.
"Inside China's Dystopian Dreams: A.I., Shame and Lots of Cameras"
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/08/business/china-surveillance-technology.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/08/business/china-surveillance-technology.html)
https://www.oxygen.com/snapped/season-99/videos/snapped-notorious-who-is-ted-bundy
"I'm Talented Ted from Washington State. I don't come early, I never come late. I'll just come when you're dead and then in your face..."
"Inside Evil with Chris Cuomo: The Mind of a Serial Killer", interviews with Joel Rifkin is well worth checking out.
https://www.cnn.com/shows/inside-evil
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on July 16, 2018, 01:52:27 AM
https://www.oxygen.com/snapped/season-99/videos/snapped-notorious-who-is-ted-bundy
"I'm Talented Ted from Washington State. I don't come early, I never come late. I'll just come when you're dead and then in your face..."
watching this right now
Big brother + racist jokes:
http://reason.com/blog/2018/07/26/amazon-facial-recognition-confuses-membe
Quotethe tech struggles particularly with differentiating between the faces of minorities.
Just finished an episode of "Most Evil Killers" about Michael Ryan's Hungerford Massacre & currently watching a PBS documentary about this case:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Servant_Girl_Annihilator
http://www.servantgirlmurders.com/the-servant-girl-annihilator/
Three years before Jack the Ripper!
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on July 29, 2018, 12:20:58 AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Servant_Girl_Annihilator
Don't you just love that handle? Of course there's a Ramirez project named after it.
Finally caught April Tinsley's killer:
https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/16/us/cold-case-april-tinsley-dna-trnd/index.html
Case history is gruesome enough for PE; could've sworn I've seen that photo used for something Sotos or Slogun-related.
Documentary called "Bad Henry" about Henry Wallace is interesting esp. the fact that he was friends with all 11 victims:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Louis_Wallace
"B.H." was on the ID Channel.
I apologize if it's been mentioned in here, but has anybody heard of Shasta Groene's Kickstarter for a memoir from last month?
Apparently it's been fully funded and it says its due for first printing this October.
On Reddit I read some people are highly skeptical because there has been mentions online of her lately getting into a lot of legal trouble regarding childcare + drugs and alcohol, so they wonder where the money's REALLY gonna go to.
Quote from: endors_toi on July 30, 2018, 01:44:23 PM
I apologize if it's been mentioned in here, but has anybody heard of Shasta Groene's Kickstarter for a memoir from last month?
Apparently it's been fully funded and it says its due for first printing this October.
On Reddit I read some people are highly skeptical because there has been mentions online of her lately getting into a lot of legal trouble regarding childcare + drugs and alcohol, so they wonder where the money's REALLY gonna go to.
She made probation instead of jail due to a kindly judge last month and there is a methed out mugshot in the local news reports. Cannot imagine the unbearable circumstances of her life and maybe it would be better if she changed her name and disappeared rather than playing 'Shasta Groene' for prurient gawkers forever. Fuck, I'd be doing drugs.
Yep, really don't blame her. That Raiders tattoo is pretty depressing but yeah, that woman should start a new life far away from us and everyone else.
That's exactly how I feel, too (I've seen the mugshot as well).
I absolutely don't blame her one bit; I only meant I do not believe in the integrity of the circumstances (?) leading to writing and publishing of this book.
In the beginning I was shamefully excited cause I realized I could finally read the details of this utter horror from her side, but then I caught myself and realized how pointless and how sad the entire ordeal is.
not a crime story but i thought you guys would like these:
(https://image.ibb.co/cODm0e/38023499_1694003440722323_4845206405377949696_n.jpg)
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http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/08/07/dad-arrested-at-muslim-extremist-new-mexico-home-planned-exorcism-tied-to-terror-linked-imam-report-says.html
Weird story. Heavily armed, exorcism, kooky religion, starving children training to be school shooters (take that with a grain of salt), & a dead boy...
Here's the event reported two days ago which mentions none of the above (may all be bs):
http://www.register-herald.com/cnhi_network/new-mexico-sheriff-compound-searched-kids-removed/article_d486e72c-a0d0-59af-95af-4f93fe2f5b2a.html
Here's the school-shooting training:
https://apnews.com/7f19d48b60844336a7bd2cb386b44561/The-Latest:-Documents:-Man-training-kids-for-school-shooting?utm_medium=AP&utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=SocialFlow
Interested to know some background to this case.
First Web address seems unavailable in Europe.
Looks to run a while
wild story
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/07/world/europe/germany-couple-sexual-abuse-son.html?smtyp=cur&smid=tw-nytimesworld
Quote from: DSOL on August 09, 2018, 04:59:57 PM
wild story
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/07/world/europe/germany-couple-sexual-abuse-son.html?smtyp=cur&smid=tw-nytimesworld
"A buyer had asked whether he could kill the boy after assaulting him"
Quote from: Eloy on August 10, 2018, 12:50:33 AM
Quote from: DSOL on August 09, 2018, 04:59:57 PM
wild story
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/07/world/europe/germany-couple-sexual-abuse-son.html?smtyp=cur&smid=tw-nytimesworld
"A buyer had asked whether he could kill the boy after assaulting him"
same story in Italy in the 80s with high-rank Catholic business man. I exploited the story for Wertham track "Brand new toy"
He was acalling his meat supplier talking about toys, how much did they cost and how much to break them.
The guy was named Moncini (or Mongini, not sure), probably the first pedo scum to make the big news in Italy with charges related to trafficking and not only to sex abuse charge.
Another pig got famous named William Andraghetti, who has his own sex ring. Weirdly enough his connection with a few pseudo-Satanist groups never became public, while he was active in sexpol, a free-for-all left wing homosexual group who advocated anti-agist attitude, NAMBLA style.
His book Diary of a pedophile, for Stampa Alternativa causes a big stir, since he was finding excuses, while he was just a perv preying on kids for filming them.
anyone following the Colorado
dude went on TV and asked for his family to be returned back safe - gets arrested the next for 3 murder's (wife and 2 small daughters) now he is saying his wife killed the daughter which in turn he killed her
https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/20/us/chris-watts-investigation-affidavit/index.html?utm_source=twCNN&utm_medium=social&utm_term=link&utm_content=2018-08-21T14%3A50%3A05
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/20/us/christopher-watts-colorado-wife.html?smtyp=cur&smid=tw-nytimes
possible serial killer
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/22/nyregion/danueal-drayton-tinder-killer.html?smtyp=cur&smid=tw-nytimes
the Mollie Tibbetts case causing a shit storm
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/21/us/mollie-tibbetts-dead-iowa-college.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur
https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/2018/08/22/mollie-tibbetts-murder-missing-iowa-student-immigrant-cristhian-bahena-rivera-family-statement/1064137002/
https://apnews.com/64979cf7d54745828cad9c2cdcca13a4?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=APCentralRegion
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/08/22/mollie-tibbetts-murder-suspect-illegal-immigrant-cristhian-rivera-allegedly-passed-e-verify-system.html
I think one link does the trick, four or five is overkill.
Anyway, bit of a Silence of the Lambs vibe going on with this one:
https://www.mynbc5.com/article/body-found-in-fish-tank-in-missing-man-s-san-francisco-home/22855952
2nd time in a week possible human remains found in a bag
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/28/nyregion/bronx-park-body-human-remains-bags.html?smtyp=cur&smid=tw-nytimes
Quote from: DSOL on August 29, 2018, 05:55:38 PM
2nd time in a week possible human remains found in a bag
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/28/nyregion/bronx-park-body-human-remains-bags.html?smtyp=cur&smid=tw-nytimes
well, this got a bit interesting
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/31/nyregion/she-answered-a-friends-call-for-help-and-paid-with-her-life.html?smtyp=cur&smid=tw-nytimes
https://www.metro.us/news/local-news/philadelphia/chesco-child-predator-Lawrence-Jamieson-child-porn
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2018/09/16/womans-daring-escape-border-patrol-agent-helped-reveal-serial-killer-police-say/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.ede338cbad0f
https://patch.com/california/newportbeach/newport-surgeon-girlfriend-charged-multiple-date-rapes (A couple more women have come forward as victims of this Paul Bernardo & Karla Homolka-style rape team)
Malaysian professor sentenced to life in prison after being found guilty of Hong Kong yoga ball murders
https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/law-and-crime/article/2164793/hong-kong-jury-sent-away-decide-fate-professor-accused (https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/law-and-crime/article/2164793/hong-kong-jury-sent-away-decide-fate-professor-accused)
Serial Killer recently arrested in Mexico
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=es&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Flaverdadnoticias.com%2Fcrimen%2FMonstruo-de-Ecatepec-mata-desde-los-22-anos-20181022-0028.html&edit-text=&act=url (https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=es&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Flaverdadnoticias.com%2Fcrimen%2FMonstruo-de-Ecatepec-mata-desde-los-22-anos-20181022-0028.html&edit-text=&act=url)
Miami Herald's comprehensive article on Jeffrey Epstein.
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/article220097825.html (https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/article220097825.html)
for anyone interested in the Susan Powell case, there is a really good podcast called Cold which is detailing the case in depth.
there are 5 episodes available right now with each one being super informative. the first couple of episodes detail the upbringing of both Susan and Josh (more focus on Josh) and then through their marriage up until her disappearance (the last episodes details Josh being interviewed by the police)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Susan_Powell
that missing Wisconsin girl has been found
https://apnews.com/c529a15d30f845c6adf6ccd478df3a5a?utm_medium=APCentralRegion&utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=Twitter
original story
https://apnews.com/10ae3d46856c46899e787ed698d5ec59
I remember seeing the Wisconsin girl on the news then it was just gone. Last I heard they were looking for a vehicle then nothing until today. I figured she & a boyfriend killed the parents then took off...
Definitely had that feeling of that exact scenario
this Sunday, Investigation Discovery has a BTK special airing called "BTK: A Killer Among Us".
I found BTK to be way more interesting than Bundy, Gacy and Dahmer/etc.
I think it was last Friday BTK was on 20/20 for two hours & tonight, 20/20 has Bundy.
A few weeks ago, 20/20 had the guy who killed a few women at a California resort. When he was a kid, his brother was snatched & kept by a pedophile for a few+ years. I can't remember the killer's name but he cut the head off of his last victim out in the woods.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on February 16, 2019, 01:59:42 AM
I think it was last Friday BTK was on 20/20 for two hours & tonight, 20/20 has Bundy.
A few weeks ago, 20/20 had the guy who killed a few women at a California resort. When he was a kid, his brother was snatched & kept by a pedophile for a few+ years. I can't remember the killer's name but he cut the head off of his last victim out in the woods.
20/20.... Is that a USA crime show? Lost context here.
Quote from: online prowler on February 16, 2019, 09:42:53 PM
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on February 16, 2019, 01:59:42 AM
I think it was last Friday BTK was on 20/20 for two hours & tonight, 20/20 has Bundy.
A few weeks ago, 20/20 had the guy who killed a few women at a California resort. When he was a kid, his brother was snatched & kept by a pedophile for a few+ years. I can't remember the killer's name but he cut the head off of his last victim out in the woods.
20/20.... Is that a USA crime show? Lost context here.
it is national level broadcast focusing on essay style news pieces. varies from fluffy human interest to housewife true crime.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on February 16, 2019, 01:59:42 AM
I think it was last Friday BTK was on 20/20 for two hours & tonight, 20/20 has Bundy.
A few weeks ago, 20/20 had the guy who killed a few women at a California resort. When he was a kid, his brother was snatched & kept by a pedophile for a few+ years. I can't remember the killer's name but he cut the head off of his last victim out in the woods.
the Yosemite Murders?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cary_Stayner
actually just finished the book by the FBI agent who got him to confessed, a lot of detail about what he did to each victim
Quote from: DSOL on February 19, 2019, 08:24:48 PM
the Yosemite Murders?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cary_Stayner
actually just finished the book by the FBI agent who got him to confessed, a lot of detail about what he did to each victim
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Yes, that's the case.
I caught most of the first episode of the new 2-part series, "Unmasking the Killer", about the capture of The Golden State Killer. There wasn't much info that was not on all of the news stations at the time of his arrest. The second part was last night; I think I recorded it but will have to double-check.
HLN channel that ran the T.G.S.K. will start a new series next month called something really stupid like "Really Bad Men".
Quote from: DSOL on February 11, 2019, 04:52:33 PM
this Sunday, Investigation Discovery has a BTK special airing called "BTK: A Killer Among Us".
I found BTK to be way more interesting than Bundy, Gacy and Dahmer/etc.
not sure if anyone caught this - it was okay. didn't really presented anything that wasn't already known if you've read a book on BTK. I was hoping they were going to delve deeper into his stalking, the hit/slick cards he created on victims during the down years of his killings
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on February 19, 2019, 11:09:10 PM
Quote from: DSOL on February 19, 2019, 08:24:48 PM
the Yosemite Murders?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cary_Stayner
actually just finished the book by the FBI agent who got him to confessed, a lot of detail about what he did to each victim
Yes, that's the case.
I caught most of the first episode of the new 2-part series, "Unmasking the Killer", about the capture of The Golden State Killer. There wasn't much info that was not on all of the news stations at the time of his arrest. The second part was last night; I think I recorded it but will have to double-check.
HLN channel that ran the T.G.S.K. will start a new series next month called something really stupid like "Really Bad Men".
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I think I have a book on the Yosemite killings that I got at Borders some years ago that I never read.
threats from woman who loves columbine killers shuts down denver schools
https://www.npr.org/2019/04/17/714205353/denver-area-schools-closed-as-authorities-search-for-armed-and-dangerous-woman (https://www.npr.org/2019/04/17/714205353/denver-area-schools-closed-as-authorities-search-for-armed-and-dangerous-woman)
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https://denver.cbslocal.com/2019/04/17/sol-pais-dead-manhunt-search-school-threats-colorado-echo-lake-mount-evans/ (https://denver.cbslocal.com/2019/04/17/sol-pais-dead-manhunt-search-school-threats-colorado-echo-lake-mount-evans/)
RIP Sol Pais
7 confessed so far :
https://www.keeptalkinggreece.com/2019/04/25/cyprus-serial-killer-confesses-murder-women-children/
https://knews.kathimerini.com.cy/en/news/confessed-killer-admits-to-seven-murders
Quote from: l.b. on April 17, 2019, 05:32:13 PM
threats from woman who loves columbine killers shuts down denver schools
https://www.npr.org/2019/04/17/714205353/denver-area-schools-closed-as-authorities-search-for-armed-and-dangerous-woman (https://www.npr.org/2019/04/17/714205353/denver-area-schools-closed-as-authorities-search-for-armed-and-dangerous-woman)
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https://denver.cbslocal.com/2019/04/17/sol-pais-dead-manhunt-search-school-threats-colorado-echo-lake-mount-evans/ (https://denver.cbslocal.com/2019/04/17/sol-pais-dead-manhunt-search-school-threats-colorado-echo-lake-mount-evans/)
RIP Sol Pais
Wasn't particularly bad looking....sick bitch should have just become a stripper or a dominatrix.
https://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressivesecularhumanist/2019/05/pastor-who-repeatedly-raped-daughter-14-gets-light-sentence-because-jesus/
http://mileswmathis.com/tate.pdf
Pretty much everything is a CIA operation.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/couple-killed-bc-missing-persons-lucas-fowler-chynna-deese-1.5221657?fbclid=IwAR33dXwzzza4dVty0Wrpfno-mnL0DfV_uZvfJ-Xz9pFIO7uqd8LHTqaW4Sg (https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/couple-killed-bc-missing-persons-lucas-fowler-chynna-deese-1.5221657?fbclid=IwAR33dXwzzza4dVty0Wrpfno-mnL0DfV_uZvfJ-Xz9pFIO7uqd8LHTqaW4Sg)
Couple of kids from BC suspected of murdering those tourists on the Alaska Highway.
Quote from: theworldisawarfilm on July 24, 2019, 01:11:47 AM
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/couple-killed-bc-missing-persons-lucas-fowler-chynna-deese-1.5221657?fbclid=IwAR33dXwzzza4dVty0Wrpfno-mnL0DfV_uZvfJ-Xz9pFIO7uqd8LHTqaW4Sg (https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/couple-killed-bc-missing-persons-lucas-fowler-chynna-deese-1.5221657?fbclid=IwAR33dXwzzza4dVty0Wrpfno-mnL0DfV_uZvfJ-Xz9pFIO7uqd8LHTqaW4Sg)
Couple of kids from BC suspected of murdering those tourists on the Alaska Highway.
Been following this one pretty closely since one of the victims was Australian. They found a third body but I think the cops have refused to say whether it's connected or not.
Quote from: theworldisawarfilm on July 24, 2019, 01:11:47 AM
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/couple-killed-bc-missing-persons-lucas-fowler-chynna-deese-1.5221657?fbclid=IwAR33dXwzzza4dVty0Wrpfno-mnL0DfV_uZvfJ-Xz9pFIO7uqd8LHTqaW4Sg (https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/couple-killed-bc-missing-persons-lucas-fowler-chynna-deese-1.5221657?fbclid=IwAR33dXwzzza4dVty0Wrpfno-mnL0DfV_uZvfJ-Xz9pFIO7uqd8LHTqaW4Sg)
Couple of kids from BC suspected of murdering those tourists on the Alaska Highway.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/24/americas/canada-couple-murder/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/24/americas/canada-couple-murder/index.html)
QuoteIn an emotionally charged interview with CNN news partner CTV News, Alan Schmegelsky said his son has been dealing with mental anguish and plans to go out in "a blaze of glory."
"A normal child doesn't travel across the country, killing people. A child in some very serious pain does," he said. [...] Schmegelsky said he believes the RCMP will "shoot first and ask questions later."
"Basically, he's going to be dead today or tomorrow. I know that," he told CTV. "Rest in peace, Bryer. I love you. I'm so sorry all this had to happen. I'm so sorry that I couldn't rescue you."
Buckets of heads & penises, 'Frankenstein' corpses found in FBI raid on horror body donation center
(https://www.rt.com/usa/465103-families-sue-body-donation-frankenstein/)
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Heads stitched to mismatched bodies "like Frankenstein," buckets of disembodied limbs, and other horrors were found by FBI agents in a body donation center that's being sued for profiting off illegal trafficking in human parts.
A "cooler filled with male genitalia," a "bucket of heads, arms and legs," "infected heads," "pools of human blood and bodily fluid" on the floor, and bodies cut up with chainsaws, band saws and other instruments wildly inappropriate for medical dissection were found during an FBI raid on the Biological Resource Center in Phoenix, Arizona. Testimony from the agents describing the horrors they encountered only became public recently – five years after the raid – as part of an ongoing lawsuit against the facility by families who donated the bodies of their deceased loved ones, unaware of the unspeakable things going on inside.
Quote from: A-Z on July 28, 2019, 03:56:40 AM
Buckets of heads & penises, 'Frankenstein' corpses found in FBI raid on horror body donation center
(https://www.rt.com/usa/465103-families-sue-body-donation-frankenstein/)
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Heads stitched to mismatched bodies "like Frankenstein," buckets of disembodied limbs, and other horrors were found by FBI agents in a body donation center that's being sued for profiting off illegal trafficking in human parts.
A "cooler filled with male genitalia," a "bucket of heads, arms and legs," "infected heads," "pools of human blood and bodily fluid" on the floor, and bodies cut up with chainsaws, band saws and other instruments wildly inappropriate for medical dissection were found during an FBI raid on the Biological Resource Center in Phoenix, Arizona. Testimony from the agents describing the horrors they encountered only became public recently – five years after the raid – as part of an ongoing lawsuit against the facility by families who donated the bodies of their deceased loved ones, unaware of the unspeakable things going on inside.
When did this happen? I don't remember ever seeing that in the news.
Good run down on the 1980 New Mexico prison riot. Utterly depraved shit went down in there, including but not limited to a snitch getting his face burnt off with an acetylene torch, another murdered by having a piece of rebar rammed through his head, ear to ear, two hundred rapes in 48 hours... The photos alone are brutal.
https://www.abqjournal.com/1413470/revisiting-the-nightmare-the-1980-prison-riot-and-its-legacy.html
https://www.abqjournal.com/1413476/a-chaotic-rampage-of-torture-and-murder.html
Quote from: Eigen Bast on January 27, 2020, 01:16:57 AM
Good run down on the 1980 New Mexico prison riot. Utterly depraved shit went down in there, including but not limited to a snitch getting his face burnt off with an acetylene torch, another murdered by having a piece of rebar rammed through his head, ear to ear, two hundred rapes in 48 hours... The photos alone are brutal.
https://www.abqjournal.com/1413470/revisiting-the-nightmare-the-1980-prison-riot-and-its-legacy.html
https://www.abqjournal.com/1413476/a-chaotic-rampage-of-torture-and-murder.html
unfortunately you can't access those articles without paying a subscription fee.
Quote from: monster ripper on January 27, 2020, 04:55:23 PM
Quote from: Eigen Bast on January 27, 2020, 01:16:57 AM
Good run down on the 1980 New Mexico prison riot. Utterly depraved shit went down in there, including but not limited to a snitch getting his face burnt off with an acetylene torch, another murdered by having a piece of rebar rammed through his head, ear to ear, two hundred rapes in 48 hours... The photos alone are brutal.
https://www.abqjournal.com/1413470/revisiting-the-nightmare-the-1980-prison-riot-and-its-legacy.html
https://www.abqjournal.com/1413476/a-chaotic-rampage-of-torture-and-murder.html
unfortunately you can't access those articles without paying a subscription fee.
Maybe there is subscription-only only for US users. They open here -Greece- . I get a subscription pop-up but it closes and you can read the article.
I just had to disable my adblock software temporarily.
Thanks, that seems to have done the trick.
Quote from: theworldisawarfilm on January 27, 2020, 06:38:42 PM
I just had to disable my adblock software temporarily.