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GENERAL SOUND DISCUSSION => GENERAL SOUND DISCUSSION => Topic started by: jesusfaggotchrist on August 18, 2012, 01:51:09 PM

Title: Controlled Bleeding's noisier material
Post by: jesusfaggotchrist on August 18, 2012, 01:51:09 PM
aside from Knees & Bones, whats some tapes/CDs/LPs of them that showcases their noisier, less ambient sound. I'm looking for recommendations and general discussion of this NYC outfit.
Title: Re: Controlled Bleeding's noisier material
Post by: Andrew McIntosh on August 18, 2012, 02:38:00 PM
Shanked And Slithering (http://www.discogs.com/Controlled-Bleeding-Shanked-And-Slithering/release/452993). A Harsh Noise masterpiece.
Title: Re: Controlled Bleeding's noisier material
Post by: audiodissection on August 18, 2012, 03:25:12 PM
Bladder Bags And Interludes CD
Plegm Bag Spattered CD
Distress Signals C60
Curd LP
Body Samples LP
Gibbering-Canker 5xCD
Shanked And Slittering CD
Headcrack LP
Hoog Floor LP
Songs From A Sewer Of Dreams 4xLP

With these you can't go wrong...
Title: Re: Controlled Bleeding's noisier material
Post by: HongKongGoolagong on August 18, 2012, 07:48:08 PM
I remember getting such a shock when I bought one of their WaxTrax era 12"ers in a bargain bin during the early 90s - all I knew about them at the time was the harsh noise stuff on Broken Flag but that single was some kind of I don't know what, prog and opera-influenced electronics?

They seem a very strange and genuine project who followed their own path not giving a fuck if people liked it or kept up or not.
Title: Re: Controlled Bleeding's noisier material
Post by: tinnitustimulus on August 19, 2012, 07:28:19 AM
"You know Paul, you're being a real clown, I HAVE A TEST TOMORROW, YOU DON'T GIVE A FLYING FUCK..."

Title: Re: Controlled Bleeding's noisier material
Post by: FreakAnimalFinland on August 19, 2012, 08:31:34 AM
Quote from: audiodissection on August 18, 2012, 03:25:12 PM
Plegm Bag Spattered CD

That is my favorite. It's 100x better than Shanked And Slithering. Simply because the 1990 "lets make this old great noise recording loud and distorted" often has much better results than same idea in mid 2000's.  Shanked And Slithering is great in composition itself, but overall sound is extremely flat compared to Plegm Bag Spattered.

In discogs you can currently shop copies in price range from 4 euro to 77 usd. I suggest anyone to grab copies that are less than 20 euro. It will be worth of money!
Title: Re: Controlled Bleeding's noisier material
Post by: JEH on August 19, 2012, 12:15:36 PM
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on August 18, 2012, 02:38:00 PM
Shanked And Slithering (http://www.discogs.com/Controlled-Bleeding-Shanked-And-Slithering/release/452993). A Harsh Noise masterpiece.

This. Also "Death in the Cameroon".  Two of my favorites.
Title: Re: Controlled Bleeding's noisier material
Post by: Goat93 on August 19, 2012, 07:02:46 PM
I liked Hoog Floor most, but the really cheap to get 4/5 CD Box is also nice

http://www.discogs.com/Controlled-Bleeding-Gibbering-Canker-Opera-Slaves-Studies-In-Meditation-And-Evisceration/master/213910
Title: Re: Controlled Bleeding's noisier material
Post by: bitewerksMTB on August 19, 2012, 07:34:46 PM
Did anyone know about the CB reissue tapes on a Brooklyn label called Obsolute Unit? "Knees & Bones" is sold out and "Body Samples" is currently available.

"Plegm Bag Spattered" is a terrible title but one I remember wanting to order but never got around to it for whatever reason.
Title: Re: Controlled Bleeding's noisier material
Post by: audiodissection on August 19, 2012, 09:34:09 PM
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on August 19, 2012, 07:34:46 PM
Did anyone know about the CB reissue tapes on a Brooklyn label called Obsolute Unit? "Knees & Bones" is sold out and "Body Samples" is currently available.

"Plegm Bag Spattered" is a terrible title but one I remember wanting to order but never got around to it for whatever reason.


i got both. They sound great.
Title: Re: Controlled Bleeding's noisier material
Post by: tinnitustimulus on August 20, 2012, 04:00:53 AM
did they ever reissue Shitslipper? I remember Paul saying on myspace that he got the masters of those out to be rereleased and totally had no memory of recording the material. It's an odd one but still very much in the classic harsh noise realm.
Title: Re: Controlled Bleeding's noisier material
Post by: audiodissection on August 20, 2012, 09:30:09 AM
Quote from: tinnitustimulus on August 20, 2012, 04:00:53 AM
did they ever reissue Shitslipper? I remember Paul saying on myspace that he got the masters of those out to be rereleased and totally had no memory of recording the material. It's an odd one but still very much in the classic harsh noise realm.

Yes. It appears on the CD4 of the boxset. CD5 has unreleased material taken from the Shitslipper sessions..
Title: Re: Controlled Bleeding's noisier material
Post by: Bloated Slutbag on August 31, 2012, 09:48:19 AM
It's all about the Knees & Bones.

For the longest time I suspected that the brief K&B "1983" feedback-wank session represented CB's only legitimate foray into genuinely harsh noise. The following were then to be regarded as re-presentation / re-mastering / re-mixing of the same material:

Knees & Bones
Plegm Bag Spattered
Bladder Bags and Interludes (most of it)
Shanked and Slithering (the two long tracks)

This suspicion was briefly halted when CB released Bladder Bags and Interludes (Vanilla, JPN) on the heels of their submission to the World Record compilation (Alchemy, JPN). The liners for both described the material as representing "all new" harsh noise work from "1991". (Quoth Mikawa in the latter, "This work, 'Shoving Stump,' is, according to them, their first noise work since 1984." [emphasis added. Could Mikawa have harbored his own suspicions?]) Suspicions were nevertheless raised anew upon perusing the material and finding it to share more than few cubits of air with Plegm Bag Spattered – itself supposedly consisting of "out-takes" from Knees & Bones. Not to mention the fact that one of the "all new" "1991" tracks on Bladder Bags is described as a remix of Knees & Bones, but sounds no different from any of the other "all new" "1991" material... anyone following me?

None of this mattered much since Bladder Bags, in conjunction with the World Record submission, "Shoving Stump", was – and still is – by far and away the best harsh work CB have ever released. The sound pressure is just that much more forceful; and where Plegm Bag tends to devolve a little bit overmuch into aimless wankery, Bladder Bags is simply full on all the way through. Parts sound like some kind of ultra-slow-death swans-punk-pounding enveloped by masses of scorching hell. Other parts divest themselves of any lingering note of musicality and leave the aural passages with the scorching hell. Plus the mastering really emphasizes the brutality of the sound. "Shoving Stump" is practically onomatopoeic in its thud-flubbering scud-huffery.

Then Shanked and Slithering comes out and the liner notes this time describe the Bladder Bags material as having been recorded in "1986". Geesh. Shanked and Slithering commits the mortal sin of indexing the first four short tracks off Bladder Bags into one fat one, and then just arbitrarily snipping five minutes off the end of the fourth track. The mastering is indeed shite but enjoyable for all that. Much as I appreciate the heaving dynamism on Bladder Bags, Shanked is just that bit harsher. And in any case is worth having for two things: the awesome "Dry Lung"("2004"), which at times approaches the psychedelic intensity of a live Incapacitants set; and "Swallowing No 5 (Power Mix)", a wonderfully dense concoction apparently recorded in "1985".

My favorite "harsh" CB moment, however, appears on the otherwise hit-and-miss Body Samples. Haven't listened to it for ages, but the memory is crystal clear. Somewhere in the middle of the recording, this lovely lilting bit of glittering ambience is rudely interrupted with a dose of CB at their very harshest, a drilling redzone scorcher that wouldn't sound out of place on a 90's Incapacitants album.

EDIT But the recent 5-disc box is the easy value-added winner, Shitslipper or no.
Title: Re: Controlled Bleeding's noisier material
Post by: jesusfaggotchrist on September 02, 2012, 04:30:58 AM
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on August 19, 2012, 07:34:46 PM
Did anyone know about the CB reissue tapes on a Brooklyn label called Obsolute Unit? "Knees & Bones" is sold out and "Body Samples" is currently available.

"Plegm Bag Spattered" is a terrible title but one I remember wanting to order but never got around to it for whatever reason.

You're kidding, that's a great title
Title: Re: Controlled Bleeding's noisier material
Post by: icepick method on September 07, 2012, 12:05:43 AM
Ok now someone do a rundown of all the Swallowing Scrap Metal parts.
Title: Re: Controlled Bleeding's noisier material
Post by: jesusfaggotchrist on December 10, 2012, 08:17:26 PM
i bumped this thread because im looking for cheap copies of curd and between tides. can anyone help me here?
Title: Re: Controlled Bleeding's noisier material
Post by: Zeno Marx on July 03, 2018, 09:26:38 PM
There has to be some Controlled Bleeding fanatics akin to the Nurse with Wound crazies.  Despite being void of the format consumer manipulations, which could possibly be central to the NwW diehards, I would still think Controlled Bleeding would have their zealots; maybe more like Coil, but obviously smaller in population.  Also like Muslimgauze.  I'm not musically drawn to the extreme variety, but it does cause me to find them an interesting situation.  I was listening to Core today and wondering where all the card-carrying CB members hide.

"Core was the real highlight of this early period and includes our first 8-track recordings. Joe and I had great fun recording this music. Gone was the angst that had spawned Knees and Bones and Body Samples. Finally, we were able to better imitate the bands we loved. The influence of Mahavishnu, King Crimson, and Swans comes through loud and clear. Core was the climax of this period and the realization of my ambition to work with Subterranean Records, the label that had issued records by Flipper and Dead Kennedys."

Are there any blogs or whatnots where one of these aficionados have collected all the noise tracks, all the synth tracks, all the dark ambient tracks, etc?  You know...like Blogged and Quartered makes their own listening projects and playlists and then shares them.  To me, CB is ideal for outsiders curating collections.  Or maybe someone here with a substantial CB collection has done this?  Anyone?  Care to publicly share your CB mix tapes?  I'd be interested in benefiting from your knowledge.
Title: Re: Controlled Bleeding's noisier material
Post by: Eigen Bast on July 06, 2018, 08:41:02 PM
Some random thoughts:

I was happy to pick up the CD set from Artofact (though the presentation leaves a bit to be desired) and will likely put some mixes together now that I have so many random CDs, tapes and LPs of theirs. The triad of records surrounding Music for Gilded Chambers is such top tier dark ambient/industrial. Judging by the liner notes it sounds like there's going to be another compilation that may collect the Wax Trax and-on material.

I was just listening to Dub Songs from a Shallow Grave and it is such a wild record (can't think of anything else that is such a literal interpretation of "Industrial Dub").
Title: Re: Controlled Bleeding's noisier material
Post by: cr on July 06, 2018, 10:04:40 PM
When I think about something like "Industrial Dub" - Adrian Sherwoods' The Missing Brazilians also come into my mind. "Gentle Killers"
Title: Re: Controlled Bleeding's noisier material
Post by: Zeno Marx on August 26, 2018, 10:57:40 PM
Besides these handful of recommended noisier albums, are there any others that stand out in their style(s)?