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Title: Suggestions for noise newbie
Post by: JuhoN on October 16, 2015, 01:52:55 PM
Hello,

I am newcomer to noise/Industrial music.
So what I can tell about my experiences of noise music, is very little.

So I pretty much started noise/industrial (or what style it is) begin with picking up Grunt - Myth of blood album.

So what I have enjoyed are:

Grunt
Will Over Matter
(Couple split albums) Bizzarre Uproar

(Other ambient/experimental music from years before looking into noise )
Vinterriket
Dark ages
Dead Reptile Shrine
.


If you can suggest some artist or album it would be greatly appreciated. My list isn't big so you can suggest pretty much anything and I will listen it and try give some comment back what it sounds like.
Title: Re: Suggestions for noise newbie
Post by: GEWALTMONOPOL on October 16, 2015, 02:37:22 PM
Welcome to the warzone!

Industrial:

SPK - Leichenschrei
BDN - Inner War
GENOCIDE ORGAN - Remember
ANENZEPHALIA - Noehaem

Leichenschrei is the essential starting point. It's the alpha and omega of industrial. The other three are trail blazers of the second generation and their template of 25-30 ago still pretty much stands today.

I'm less interested in noise personally but a few notables:

MACRONYMPHA
SICKNESS
KERANEN
UMPIO
SSRI...

The Finns are good as a general rule. They have been for a while now and probably will continue to be for a while longer. The above names aren't the be all and end all of course. There are a multitude of giants who deserve your time and commitment but that's for you to seek out via the small list above. Happy hunting!
Title: Re: Suggestions for noise newbie
Post by: Vanitas on October 16, 2015, 02:56:16 PM
You may also want try stuff like Alfarmania,STROM.ec,Cloama,Trepaneringsritualen,Grey Wolves and Con-Dom..to name a few.
Title: Re: Suggestions for noise newbie
Post by: GEWALTMONOPOL on October 16, 2015, 03:19:03 PM
Good point! There is the PE side as well. Mainly British and UK 80's but a few Americans have done well too.

WHITEHOUSE - Everything from Erector to Great White Death. After that it starts to flag IMO.
CON-DOM - Colour of a Man's Skin, the tracks off War Against Society
GREY WOLVES - Catholic Priests
SUTCLIFFE JUGEND - I'm actually more fond of their current output than their older material, Pigdaddy is a favourite.
FINAL SOLUTION - Didn't release much but they didn't need to. Sometimes written off as a Whitehouse rip off which is ridiculous. While WH remain essentially British FS are uber American and all the better for it. The track Ravensbruck from the Zyklon B compilation is hard to beat on any level.

As with the above list this is bare bones. There is SO much greatness to be explored. Start with FINAL SOLUTION - Ravensbruck and let yourself go. It's a beautiful track that will leave you wanting more.
Title: Re: Suggestions for noise newbie
Post by: F_c_O on October 16, 2015, 03:26:26 PM
I'll share some of my personal favourites. Prepare to spend few evenings to search for these & more. After that, comes the need to fucking buy everything ever now (or at least thats how it is for me, hehe).

Japan

(early) Merzbow
Masonna
Gerogerigegege
Monde Bruits
Government Alpha
K2
MSBR
Pain Jerk
Incapacitants
All artists associated with Lust Vessel label

USA

Taint
Macronympha
Skin Crime

Europe

Mauthausen Orchestra
Atrax Morgue
Male Rape Group
Whitehouse
Con-Dom
Genocide Organ
Consumer Electronics
All Bizarre Uproar
Snuff
Xenophobic Ejaculation
Blood ov thee christ
Blod
Treriksröset
Strom.Ec

I am sure I have forgotten several but this came completely from top of my head with no referencing to anything at all.
Title: Re: Suggestions for noise newbie
Post by: JuhoN on October 16, 2015, 03:28:54 PM
Quote from: Vanitas on October 16, 2015, 02:56:16 PM
You may also want try stuff like Alfarmania,STROM.ec,Cloama,Trepaneringsritualen,Grey Wolves and Con-Dom..to name a few.

STROM.ec was great!
Title: Re: Suggestions for noise newbie
Post by: JuhoN on October 16, 2015, 04:14:25 PM
Quote from: GEWALTMONOPOL on October 16, 2015, 02:37:22 PM
Welcome to the warzone!

Industrial:

SPK - Leichenschrei
BDN - Inner War
GENOCIDE ORGAN - Remember
ANENZEPHALIA - Noehaem

Leichenschrei is the essential starting point. It's the alpha and omega of industrial. The other three are trail blazers of the second generation and their template of 25-30 ago still pretty much stands today.

I'm less interested in noise personally but a few notables:

MACRONYMPHA
SICKNESS
KERANEN
UMPIO
SSRI...

The Finns are good as a general rule. They have been for a while now and probably will continue to be for a while longer. The above names aren't the be all and end all of course. There are a multitude of giants who deserve your time and commitment but that's for you to seek out via the small list above. Happy hunting!

SPK was excellent

I like as well:

ANENZEPHALIA
UMPIO
SSRI...
Title: Re: Suggestions for noise newbie
Post by: Major Carew on October 16, 2015, 05:03:32 PM

Try Brethren too...

http://www.discogs.com/artist/280441-Brethren-4 (http://www.discogs.com/artist/280441-Brethren-4)

And Deathkey

http://www.discogs.com/artist/942962-Deathkey (http://www.discogs.com/artist/942962-Deathkey)
Title: Re: Suggestions for noise newbie
Post by: Dr Alex on October 16, 2015, 06:00:35 PM
Don't forget Organized Resistance!
Title: Re: Suggestions for noise newbie
Post by: Psychosadist on October 17, 2015, 10:37:48 AM
You should check also following:

- STAB Electronics
- Atrax Morgue
- Streicher
- Slogun
- RxAxPxE
- Wertham
- Maskhead
- Cadaver Gutter
Title: Re: Suggestions for noise newbie
Post by: MaisonBlanche on October 17, 2015, 10:47:45 AM
Quote from: GEWALTMONOPOL on October 16, 2015, 02:37:22 PM
Welcome to the warzone!

Industrial:

SPK - Leichenschrei
BDN - Inner War
GENOCIDE ORGAN - Remember
ANENZEPHALIA - Noehaem

Leichenschrei is the essential starting point. It's the alpha and omega of industrial. The other three are trail blazers of the second generation and their template of 25-30 ago still pretty much stands today.

Thanks for the recommendation, being a newbie myself...
Let me add Leichenlinie by GENOCIDE ORGAN that totally got me into P.E. Unbelievable stuff.
Title: Re: Suggestions for noise newbie
Post by: eyestrain on October 18, 2015, 12:13:43 AM
Instead of suggestion what I've found amazing over time, these were essentials to start with. Note: I was moreso interested in harsh noise and industrial-ish music. I think many of the folks above have given great power electronics suggestions...

Ryan Bloomer "Forearm Shiver" C69 (Self Abuse): Absolutely incredible harsh noise artist. Grating feedback, dense distorted rumbles and very adept at building tension. This was his best, or maybe "Bully Hiss" on Phage.
Sewer Election & Treriksröset "Rågsved" C30 (Thorax Harsh Cassettes): Two kingpins of Swedish harsh noise. They've put out many collabo's together, but this was always my favorite. Just gritty, direct.
Body Collector "Acidic Dread" C30 (Nurse Etiquette): First time I ever heard anyone play with silence. With contact mic's. Sheet metal that wasn't disguised by a million effects. His early work was pure distortion, but this album and beyond were exciting bits of experimental noise.
Ultra "Spray / Death / Ultra" LP (Dom America): Suggested by Ajna Offensive, this album kinda opened it all up. Depraved, experimental, subtly harsh. The most "musical" item here.
Ahlzagailzehguh "Black Destination" 2xC20 (Truculent Rec.): One of the best harsh noise albums I ever heard. Relentless. A fist direct in the face.
Burial Hex "Gripster Killer" C30 (Hate Song): One of the most eclectic and adventurous characters in the world of noise. This early tape was when he was still deeply indebted to early European noise pioneers. The sound of another dimension ripping open.
Bizarre Uproar "Triumph" 2xC44 (Cathartic Process): Not the BU you'll hear discussed quite as much. This is a monolith of shrill and menacing noise.
C.C.C.C. "Chaos Is The Cosmos" CD (Cold Spring): Psychedelic noise master-group.
Mo*Te "Life in a Peaceful New World" C60 (Hebi Like A Snake): Fuzz till kingdom come. As it's been suggested, probably an early inspiration to the creation of the "noise wall".
Taint "Misogynist Lust" C48/CD/LP (Taint Ent./Freak Animal): My favorite by this legend. Not as "stalkerish" as his other works. A crumbling mass.
Treriksröset "Sexregler" CD (Troniks/Chondritic Sound): One of the best 40+ minute albums of linear harsh noise I ever heard.
Chop Shop "Powerdrunk" C46/CDr (Banned Prod.): One of the more "quiet" works you'll ever hear that is also mammoth. A very fascinating artist.
Le Syndicat "Rectal Struggle" C60 (Broken Flag): Maybe you could call this an early or ur-power electronics album. Lots of voice, although maybe all samples, across a melee of synth and grit. Legendary label to research. Look into "As Loud As Possible #1" magazine...
LXSS "Twist And Decease" C60 (Multiple Configuration): Exotic and surreal industrial album. Haunting and experimental.
Piss Horn "Hatred Mountain" C30 (Nurse Etiquette): One of the "darker" albums I've ever heard.
XX Committee "Steel Negro Music" CS/CD (A.R.P.H. Tapes/Trash Ritual): Amazing mixture of ambience, rhythm, and metallic din.
Macronympha "Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania" LP/CD/C47 (Praxis Dr. Bearmann/Trash Ritual/Mother Savage): Along with Skin Crime, Macro- is the end-all-be-all of American harsh noise.
Skin Crime "Skin Crime" LP (Force Of Nature Prod., Hospital Prod.): Yep...

Like some others, I'm sure, I am forever grateful for Joe Roemer's 100 essentials list:
https://36.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6zndja29g1qiei5oo1_540.jpg (https://36.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6zndja29g1qiei5oo1_540.jpg)
http://harshnoise.blogspot.com/2005/10/joseph-roemers-one-hundred-essential.html (http://harshnoise.blogspot.com/2005/10/joseph-roemers-one-hundred-essential.html)
Title: Re: Suggestions for noise newbie
Post by: Zeno Marx on October 18, 2015, 01:02:01 AM
Quote from: eyestrain on October 18, 2015, 12:13:43 AM
Instead of suggestion what I've found amazing over time, these were essentials to start with.
I think this is a great way to guide someone through those initial stages.  Experiment with styles.  Take a broad approach and hone from there.  It is experimental after all.
Title: Re: Suggestions for noise newbie
Post by: Levas on October 18, 2015, 11:19:49 AM
check these threads.

Canon of PE (http://www.special-interests.net/forum/index.php?topic=13.0)


Canon of noise (http://www.special-interests.net/forum/index.php?topic=3724.0)
Title: Re: Suggestions for noise newbie
Post by: Goat93 on October 18, 2015, 12:25:39 PM
Quote from: GEWALTMONOPOL on October 16, 2015, 02:37:22 PM
Welcome to the warzone!

Industrial:

SPK - Leichenschrei

Leichenschrei is the essential starting point. It's the alpha and omega of industrial. The other three are trail blazers of the second generation and their template of 25-30 ago still pretty much stands today.

Nothing Short of a Total War... Didn't you forget in the Alpha and Omega to mention Throbbing Gristle?

Nice Stuff not mentioned yet:

Asmus Tietchens
Kontakt der Jünglinge
Column One
(old) Laibach
Maschinenzimmer 412 / Folkstorm
Barzel
Blackhouse
Maurizio Bianchi
Murder Corporation
Azoikum
Swastika Kommando
Ultra
(Dogs Blood Rising / Nature Unveiled) from Current 93 are also nice
Magadan
Puce Mary
Thorofon
Emil Beauliue
Prurient
Grey Wolves / Con Dom (wondering not mentioned yet??)
Smell & Quim
Contrastate
Sudden infant

and Like your Dark Ambient Stuff:
Lustmord
Muslimgauze
Mortiis
Puissance
Raison D# etre
In Slaughter Natives
Sophia
Aube

If you'r interested in Buying Physical Stuff on menstrualrecordings are nice and cheap CD Boxes from Sacher Pelz and Murder Corporation and i think Dom America still sells Ultracheap the Ultra Box.

The List could get endless actualy, hope you have plenty of Time
Title: Re: Suggestions for noise newbie
Post by: F_c_O on October 18, 2015, 01:23:55 PM
Quote from: F_c_O on October 16, 2015, 03:26:26 PM
snip
Added recommendations from each artist. Probably clear that I dont know as much about some artists as I should and as such, feel free to add to/critique/whatever this list. Some are rare as fuck as physical copies but all of them should be quite easy to find online.

Japan

Merzbow

Pornoise tape set
Ecobondage

Masonna

Spectrum ripper

Gerogerigegege

Yellow Trash Bazooka
Night
William Bennet is my dick

Monde Bruits

Purgatory

Government Alpha

Alphaville

K2

Tekhnodrug
Rusty tongue

MSBR

Ultimate Ambience

Pain Jerk

Spitfire

Incapacitants

Ad Nauseam

All artists associated with Lust Vessel label

Gaze Campaign - Gestalt Bruise
Karasyozoku - Mischievous Sigyn 1923
Parijna - The Age Of Scentless Imperilment
Ultimastanza - A Jewel In A Dunghill
Lebensfaden - Desnos
Tongue Knax - Maxim For Subjugation
Polar Moldmentous - Desperate In Nirvana

USA

Taint

Justmeat
Indecent Liberties
Misogynist Lust

Macronympha

Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
Cut Ups, Drones & Other Weird 1993-2007

Skin Crime

Genital Modification

Australia

Streicher

Annihilism
Blood & Honour
War Against Society compilation appearance

Europe

Mauthausen Orchestra

Necrofellatio
Bloodyminded
Anal Perversions

Male Rape Group

On to '83

Whitehouse

Dedicated To Peter Kurten Sadist And Mass Slayer
Bird Seed

Ramleh

The Hand Of Glory
A Return To Slavery / Slaughter At Random

Con-Dom

Even More Racial Hatred
All In Good Faith
Subjection
Colour Of A Man's Skin

Genocide Organ

Leichenlinie
虐殺機関

Consumer Electronics

Leathersex
Nobody's Ugly
Crowd Pleaser

Bizarre Uproar

Unsafe And Insane
Purification
Viha & Kiima

Snuff

2xcass/Kristiina

Xenophobic Ejaculation

Victory
White Power

Blood ov thee christ

Master Control
Filthy Criminals
Guilty To Everything

Blod

Red Light Companion

Treriksröset

Sexregler
Venal

Strom.Ec

Divine Legions Beyond Psyche
Title: Re: Suggestions for noise newbie
Post by: cr on October 18, 2015, 06:20:07 PM
If not already done I'd like to recommend these:
*SHIFT
*Trucido/Death Squad/MK9
*C.C.C.C.
*Hal Hutchinson
*The Haters
*Iron Fist Of The Sun
*Entre Vifs
*IRM
*Human Larvae
*Chop Shop
*The Rita

...and by the way...thanks for recommending S.P.K.'s Leichenschrei, after a quite long time I'm  now listening to it again. And it's great!
Title: Re: Suggestions for noise newbie
Post by: tiny_tove on October 18, 2015, 07:10:55 PM
Quote from: GEWALTMONOPOL on October 16, 2015, 03:19:03 PM

FINAL SOLUTION - Didn't release much but they didn't need to. Sometimes written off as a Whitehouse rip off which is ridiculous. While WH remain essentially British FS are uber American and all the better for it. The track Ravensbruck from the Zyklon B compilation is hard to beat on any level.

As with the above list this is bare bones. There is SO much greatness to be explored. Start with FINAL SOLUTION - Ravensbruck and let yourself go. It's a beautiful track that will leave you wanting more.

that, white house's thank your like star and GO's white power forces are the definitve PE anthems.

Title: Re: Suggestions for noise newbie
Post by: JuhoN on October 18, 2015, 07:14:20 PM
Quote from: Major Carew on October 16, 2015, 05:03:32 PM

Try Brethren too...

http://www.discogs.com/artist/280441-Brethren-4 (http://www.discogs.com/artist/280441-Brethren-4)

And Deathkey

http://www.discogs.com/artist/942962-Deathkey (http://www.discogs.com/artist/942962-Deathkey)

Bretheren was good, Deathkey not that much
Title: Re: Suggestions for noise newbie
Post by: JuhoN on October 18, 2015, 07:16:00 PM
Quote from: Dr Alex on October 16, 2015, 06:00:35 PM
Don't forget Organized Resistance!

Quite interesting
Title: Re: Suggestions for noise newbie
Post by: JuhoN on October 18, 2015, 07:22:23 PM
Quote from: Psychosadist on October 17, 2015, 10:37:48 AM
You should check also following:

- STAB Electronics
- Atrax Morgue
- Streicher
- Slogun
- RxAxPxE
- Wertham
- Maskhead
- Cadaver Gutter

Wertham and RxAxPxE sounded perfect, thank you as well
Title: Re: Suggestions for noise newbie
Post by: cr on October 18, 2015, 09:18:51 PM
Quote from: GEWALTMONOPOL on October 16, 2015, 03:19:03 PM
SUTCLIFFE JUGEND - I'm actually more fond of their current output than their older material, Pigdaddy is a favourite.

I like this one a lot, too. I think if you're drunk enough it sounds like an over the top perverted blues album. But, don't take me too serious...!

More:
*Nyodene D
*Murderous Vision
*Pogrom
*Zyklon SS


Title: Re: Suggestions for noise newbie
Post by: humanpulp on October 19, 2015, 01:31:15 AM
essential PE + vocals triptych:

SLOGUN "bloody roots"
BLOODYMINDED "trophy"
DEATHPILE "G.R."
Title: Re: Suggestions for noise newbie
Post by: impulsemanslaughter on October 19, 2015, 10:45:37 AM
Just a few random favorites, most are pretty obvious:
- Merzbow
- Masonna
- Aube
- Hijokaidan
- Incapacitants
- Killer Bug
- Monde Bruits
- Controlled Bleeding
- Skin Crime
- The Haters
- Prurient
- Wolf Eyes
- John Duncan
- Ramleh
- Whitehouse
- Sutcliffe Jugend
- Nurse With Wound
- The new Blockaders
- Organum
- SPK
- Genocide Organ
- Anenzephalia
- Rudolf Eb.er / Schimpfluch Gruppe
- Streicher
- Club Moral
- Entre Vifs / Le Syndicat
- Etant Donnes
- Maurizio Bianchi
- Esplendor Geometrico
- Brighter Death Now
- Irm
- Grunt
Title: Re: Suggestions for noise newbie
Post by: Psychosadist on October 19, 2015, 11:19:27 AM
I Forget one of the best:

- Steel Hook Prostheses


Also very good is White Walls.
Title: Re: Suggestions for noise newbie
Post by: SUBKLINIK on October 21, 2015, 06:22:10 AM
Might I suggest:

Korpses Katatonik
Predominance
Control Resistance
Wolverine
Trauma
N.
Möder Machine
Zero Kama
Theologian
NON
Coteries
Operation Cleansweep
Inade
MZ.412
Militia

Yes, the list is endless....
Title: Re: Suggestions for noise newbie
Post by: SUBKLINIK on October 21, 2015, 06:26:47 AM
Oh yeah...

DAGDA MOR!!!!!!
Title: Re: Suggestions for noise newbie
Post by: JuhoN on October 27, 2015, 12:26:12 PM
Thank you for all good suggestions, I will continue in bandcamp. There is alot stuff to listen.