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GENERAL SOUND DISCUSSION => GENERAL SOUND DISCUSSION => Topic started by: Andrew McIntosh on April 04, 2011, 05:37:40 AM

Title: French Musique Concrete
Post by: Andrew McIntosh on April 04, 2011, 05:37:40 AM
Etant Donnes, Le Syndicate, Brume - not to mention Monsieurs Schaeffer and Henry, among others - what is in the water in France that makes it citizens want to bend and twist the sound around them into new forms? I've known about musique concrete for years, of course, and realise it's not exclusively a French movement, but I know little enough to want to know more.

Please, enlighten me; who are the best composers and artists? Who are the lesser known? What do you think of the influence of musique concrete upon the kinds of music we all listen to and create today?

(PS - from the book "File Under Popular" by Chris Cutler - "Schaeffer has since repudiated his work as not being 'music', as leading nowhere; 'It took me fourty years to discover that nothing is possible outside Do Re Mi' ". With all due respect, I disagree completely).

Title: Re: French Musique Concrete
Post by: Mattias G on April 04, 2011, 05:25:09 PM
I am right at the moment listening to a Luc Ferrari LP i got today. But the one of my best discovery's lately is Lionel Marchetti. http://www.intransitiverecordings.com/artists/lionel-marchetti/ The CD´s on Intransitive is absolutely mind blowing stuff. What more should i buy in his discography?
Title: Re: French Musique Concrete
Post by: FreakAnimalFinland on April 04, 2011, 07:41:33 PM
See also the previous topic, not just about French, but some of that covered.
http://www.special-interests.net/forum/index.php?topic=189.0
Title: Re: French Musique Concrete
Post by: Zeno Marx on April 05, 2011, 12:08:45 AM
a couple great electro-acoustic threads on the noise board.

I feel Francois Bayle puts all other to shame, but I said that a few times over in those threads.

I'm not sure it influences much of this culture at all, which is a real shame.  Dynamics.  Palate wise.  Painting and storytelling with sonic colors (though I often find it purely ear candy of the finest order).  It's so rich in so many textures, ideas, etc.  We're amidst the dumbed-down phase of "noise", so it only makes sense that stuff like this is appreciated by fewer new listeners, thus fewer people taking any influence from it.

The French seem to have maintained a connexion with nature, and it follows through in their sonic interests.  Maybe it is simply a strong sense for art and organics.  I'm not learned enough to say.  That's not to say that electro-acoustics aren't laden with the plastique.  I find they are a great deal, but I hear organic ideas and atmosphere in subtle, but strong, ways in the finer works.
Title: Re: French Musique Concrete
Post by: Andrew McIntosh on April 05, 2011, 01:34:38 AM
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on April 04, 2011, 07:41:33 PM
See also the previous topic, not just about French, but some of that covered.
http://www.special-interests.net/forum/index.php?topic=189.0

Sorry, I was lazy. First thing I should have done was look up.