There are some threads with CMI topic and it's rise and fall, and rising again, but not one about Mr. Karmaniks' musical works itself (at least I couldn't find one)
Got the Bomb the Daynursery box and watched BDN live two weeks ago. Great, really fucking good! Thanks to Roger and Lina B. Doll for still doing this!
So let's discuss BDN and CMI and everything related!
Cheers!
Huge fan of the 'Great Death' releases, which were my initial exposure to BDN. Fond of a lot of their material but those remain my favourites by a long shot and I've been revisiting them over the past two weeks--sounding better than ever!
Bomb The Daynursery LP box, damn that is great! I had never heard these tapes, and had no expectation what type of sound there could be. Maybe Lille Roger type? Maybe Brighter Death Now? Of course, there is little of both. Like Karmanik said in interview, that he was always curious of people starting projects and changing style with intent. Like having project that plays X style, then project that plays Y, and so on. He said that he can only create what he creates. It is not decision what he aims to do, but result of doing art and it always becomes this way.
Bomb The Daynursery is the most crude, most primitive, and perhaps even technically most simplistic, but at the same time there is variation. It is not so uniform as Pain In Progress or Innerwar or Great Death or other masterpieces that have this monochrome singleminded vision. Early tapes might have just tapedeck+pause button type of experiments, broken records on turntable, all sorts of no-tech industrial noise, and that makes it so good for me. I was told this LP box can be found even from Spotify, so those using streaming services can listen there. I'd say vinyl box is well worth money if you are drawn towards ultra primitivist industrial noise.
I have been a BDN fanboy for many many years. I like the "ambient" approach the most, and find little fault with anything from Pain In Progress to and including Necrose Evangelicum. I can't really pick a favourite between those, it changes with the days. Innerwar and May All be Dead are great too, but not quite as good, I think. After that, I don't really listen to any of it. I have bought all the releases, listened to them a couple of times, then just archived them. That is often the case with old bands. You listen to their new album, think "not too bad, but no new classic" and that's it. Same with Death In June and Current 93 for me. Bands I used to eagerly collect but their records are now just sitting on the shelf apart from the classics which get the occasional spin. I am happy that Roger is still touring though, and for that reason alone it is good that he still makes new music. It is a bit lame when bands tour without any new output. The Primitive Perversions box was a hard listen for me, so amateurish, but interesting to see some of the seeds of what would become great over time. I doubt if I will ever put any of the LPs on a gain though. The Lille Roger box was way better and has a lot of classic material, but also material that i had never heard except for old mp3 rips. The sound quality is way better than on the old Lille Roger CD on CMI.
The CMI label was hugely influential on me as a teenager, so I can't really be objective here. Pretty much everything they released from the beginning until c. 2000 was pure gold, even the more synth cheesy stuff like the various Mortiis and Raison D'etre side-projects. Only band from that period I have never become friends with is Sanctum. After 2000 CMI coulnd't really keep up, but some good things such as IRM was still released. CMI was a particular era for me, and remain close to my heart.
Back in 93-94 I started to go to the town of Linköping on a regular basis for my job. I had discovered CMI a year before or so, and on one of my trips I mobilized the courage to seek out the address given on the album covers, which turned out do be an apartment building. I found the door to the Karmanik residence and rang the bell. One of the kids opened and I asked for his dad. Roger came out and I sheepishly asked if he had any records to sell. I can only imagine his perplexity, but he was super nice and explained he didn't have any at home but I could join him to his office/warehouse. So we went down to the nearby basement space he rented back then. I remember buying ISN "Enter Now the World", Memorandum "Aux Morts", and the BDN "Great Death" 2CD box set that had just come out at that point. All remain huge favorites from the label's roster.
From then and on I made a point of always dropping by the CMI HQ to pick up the latest releases when in town. A few years down the road Roger also had a proper store for a while, with "Lina Baby Doll" often manning the counter. I avidly collected their output and I think I have pretty much every release up until CMI.150 or so. Back then it wasn't too difficult to fill the gaps from the label's first years, and I managed to track down the early tapes, 7"s, and even the Debauch VHS for relatively modest sums. Internet (long before www) became a vital source with Usenet newsgroups like rec.music.industrial and the coldmeat-l mailing list that had recently started. In cyberspace I befriended likeminded CMI aficionados such as Jason of Malignant, Mason Jones over at Charnel House, and Ares that ran the Eskhatos zine. Those were very exciting years.
As for BDN, even though I'm very partial to the Great Death series, for me the pinnacle is May All Be Dead. Roger's Crass influence came out just perfect in that release.
Quote from: post-morten on July 01, 2022, 09:53:41 AM
Back in 93-94 I started to go to the town of Linköping on a regular basis for my job. I had discovered CMI a year before or so, and on one of my trips I mobilized the courage to seek out the address given on the album covers, which turned out do be an apartment building. I found the door to the Karmanik residence and rang the bell. One of the kids opened and I asked for his dad. Roger came out and I sheepishly asked if he had any records to sell. I can only imagine his perplexity, but he was super nice and explained he didn't have any at home but I could join him to his office/warehouse.
That's a nice story! And to put your visit and the shop in it's proper context one should read this article:
http://www.bardomethodology.com/articles/2021/09/01/cold-meat-industry-roger-karmanik-brighter-death-now-interview/
Never listened to BDN or much CMI. But recently i picked up Great Death and Pain in Progress LP to see what the praise was about. I listened to them in reverse chronological order. i think the LP re-release of Pain In Progress, when having listened to Great Death prior, is not very exciting. Partly due to the bonus tracks and using some of the same material as on Great Death.
How different is May All Be Dead from Great Death?
Quote from: accidental on July 01, 2022, 11:48:19 AM
How different is May All Be Dead from Great Death?
While BDN is always dark in a way, May All Be Dead is less of that? Perhaps the Crass style package itself makes one to associate it with wilder approach?
Quote from: accidental on July 01, 2022, 11:48:19 AM
How different is May All Be Dead from Great Death?
Quite a bit I'd say. From my point of view, BDN is basically about pain, paranoia, anger - Roger fighting his inner demons through the music. Album titles such as "Pain In Progress" and "Innerwar" are really clues to what it's all about.
"May All Be Dead" is different beast. Instead of internalizing his battle, Roger turned outwards. The pain and anger are substituted for hatred and aggression. Instead of the trademarked dark, brooding, punishing atmospheres there's more of a punkish in-your-face attitude that goes beyond the cover design and permeats the tracks. That's how I see and hear it at least.
As others have said "May All Be Dead" is more punky and in your face than previous albums, not unlike more recent albums (but better). The power electronics influence is also pretty strong on it and on Innerwar, and it has more rythmic elements than earlier releases. Not bad at all, by any means, I just enjoy the bleaker less rythmic output of BDN slightly more. I think the new one is actually the best in years, and certainly the best since BDN "returned". I think people should pay more attention to Slaughterhouse than they generally do, by the way, it hardly ever gets mentioned despite being a bleak and minimalist death industrial masterpiece.
Necrose Evangelicum is my go-to album, and really, the only one I ever think to play. I don't go to BDN for my death industrial fix. Some of the new stuff is good, like "Love Hard" from Everything is gonna be Alright (2022). I'm not as well acquainted with the newer releases, but I might prefer them over most of the old. May All be Dead (1998) and "All Too Bad - Bad To All" (2021) kept my attention.
Quote from: post-morten on July 01, 2022, 09:53:41 AM
Back in 93-94 I started to go to the town of Linköping on a regular basis for my job. I had discovered CMI a year before or so, and on one of my trips I mobilized the courage to seek out the address given on the album covers, which turned out do be an apartment building. I found the door to the Karmanik residence and rang the bell. One of the kids opened and I asked for his dad. Roger came out and I sheepishly asked if he had any records to sell. I can only imagine his perplexity, but he was super nice and explained he didn't have any at home but I could join him to his office/warehouse.
You weren't the only one... I used to drop by from -88 and forward. Fondly remembering dropping by the basement office and seeing 10 or more Zyklon B boxes in the window. Think he might have had some trouble if that had been today.
I like your Roger/CMI anecdotes and would like to keep this thread going a little more - so this "bump" is kind of an attempt at that. I got to see BDN 3 times this spring and all of them were great. The material really comes alive with Roger's stage persona.
Now, some observations about the metal heads who often go to these kinds of shows and have no fucking clue about what they're in for. At two of the gigs, which were in Denmark together with Of The Wand And The Moon, the audience simply left when they found out what BDN was all about. People in metal shirts who couldn't take the heat, fucking hilarious! It is kind of funny since CMI had a lot of crossover with the metal scene back in the day, mostly because of Mortiis, Aghast and MZ 412 probably, while Roger always hated all things metal. Anyway, I find it funny that the metal heads, looking much meaner than most of the industrial/noiseheads, couldn't take BDN even though they have a rather structured and rythmical approach that should talk to the more rock-oriented segment. Some reviews really revealed that these people were clueless about industrial music, saying stuff like "in some of the songs they were ajusting their pedals, they probably felt like that was needed" (quoted from memory). Ignorant shit like that makes me wish for fucking genre-segregation (kidding, kind of...but come on, speak about being ignorant about industrial)! It kind of maybe merits its own thread, but should metal people just get the fuck out of the industrial scene? I can mention less than 5 artists or so with a metal background who are able to make good industrial and vice versa...there might be more, but I'm sure you get what I'm getting at...
Lastly, the best show so far for me this year was BDN at the OEC fest in Pordenone, actually, all gigs were good that night, but BDN stole the show! That just shows that Roger and co. are still a force to be reckoned with in the industrial scene. I am also very much looking forward to the CMI festival in November where a few bands will be crossed off my must see-list. Nothing new happening, really, no upcoming bands or anything that pushes anything forward, I know, but I'm kind of psyched to finally see some of these old bands that I adored as a teenager live on a stage.
Sorry for ranting, must be the heat.
Actualy CMI were one of the Biggest Labels, who SELLS the Stuff into the Metal Scene. There were a lot of Noise/industrial Connections in the (Black Metal) Scene from the 90ties.
I was in Oberhausen on that OFWATM / BDN Tour and most People left after OTWATM, cause they had to work next Day. Its fucking Folk Music and not Metal at all. Besides the Singer comes also from a Metal Background, its not linked much more to Metal than BDN.
Quote from: Goat93 on August 11, 2022, 07:14:40 PM
Actualy CMI were one of the Biggest Labels, who SELLS the Stuff into the Metal Scene. There were a lot of Noise/industrial Connections in the (Black Metal) Scene from the 90ties.
I was in Oberhausen on that OFWATM / BDN Tour and most People left after OTWATM, cause they had to work next Day. Its fucking Folk Music and not Metal at all. Besides the Singer comes also from a Metal Background, its not linked much more to Metal than BDN.
That's hardly news to anyone. What's slightly amusing is the idea that once you're metal you never get out - endless support for OTWATM in metal circles, same for Ulver f.ex. although they haven't made metal in more than 20 years. CMI did indeed sell a lot of industrial to the metal people, although I doubt most of them bought the more hard hitting stuff. Anyway, I started a new topic for that and related discussions as it might be relevant to talk about on it's own without a direct link to Roger and CMI.
Actualy i don't get your idea about Separate Scenes and excluding them. OFWATM don't get Metal Support cause of his involvement in a Band. He got support, cause the People like his Music (i know its still not believable). Metal is one of the biggest Trends in the last Years, so no wonder People running around in Shirts.
But for an idea:
Nuclear War Now
just saying.....
Well, trends or not, I am not at all againt OTWATM or their fans. I like neofolk and think Kim has contributed a lot to the scene and has a really good back catalogue. That is also why he can sell albums and concert tickets, of course. I do think the metal community have a tendency to support bands where members have a metal background, and it seems to me that starting from a metal base will give you a much bigger audience than starting from an industrial base. Also, it seems like having a clear-cut song-based form will get you further, also among those who claim to like the gritty stuff. Just observations...all up for discussion, but maybe not in a thread that is dedicated to BDN.
Quote from: Phenol on August 11, 2022, 06:34:17 PM
I like your Roger/CMI anecdotes and would like to keep this thread going a little more - so this "bump" is kind of an attempt at that. I got to see BDN 3 times this spring and all of them were great. The material really comes alive with Roger's stage persona.
I also got to see BDN three times, but it's over 20 years ago now. Going back to my first meeting with Roger at his basement office, besides the general feeling of awe two things stand out in my memory: the Zyklon B canisters (just as Strömkarlen mentioned above), and flyers for an upcoming show. Around that time Roger threw a number of "Death Parties" around Sweden... gigs with CMI acts. In Oct 94 there was gonna be a death party in a punk squat in a Stockholm suburb, which would've been my first chance to see BDN. To my dismay it coincided with a trip abroad that couldn't be changed, so I missed out and it took another couple of years.
There was a growing sense of community thanks to the various online foras that emerged. Another contributing factor was the happening of dedicated Cold Meat festivals. Sure some CMI artists had been invited to play European festivals in the past, but I dare to say the first major Cold Meat manifestation was in Erlangen the summer of 96. People travelled from all over. Then came Waregem in 97 & 98 and Athens in 99, and you'd see many of the same faces over and over again. Next thing you knew Coldmeaters were mainstays at bigtime festivals like WGT, Maschinenfest, and even Eurorock, where you had industrialists mixing in with a crowd of metallers, goths, ravers, Hitler jugend lookalikes, and whatnot.
Anyway I'm ranting but basically agree that BDN live used to be pretty darn great. I think my favorite CMI act was Mental Destruction though, who put on an inferno of insanely loud music and seizure inducing strobe lights.
Nice story! At that time, 1994-96, I was still living with my parents and listening to this stuff in my room, completely convinced I was the only one in the world into that shit. I went to see Death In June, Der Blutharsch, Blood Axis (as Knotwork), Non etc. in Aarhus a few years later during the late 90s, but the first gigs abroad for me were in 2000-2001. I saw Anenzephalia with Der Blutharsch and Deutsch Nepal in London, f.ex. (for me Anenzephalia was the main attraction, but they were the first to enter the stage) which had huge impact on me. I would have loved to see those CMI acts back in those days. Lina and also Klaus from GO came to one of the gigs in Aarhus and I was a bit starstruck, being 15 or 16 at the time. I didn't dare to speak to any of them, but acknowleged their presence. Mental Destruction were always among my favourites, but I unfortunately never saw them live. It really felt (and still feels) like I was born 5-10 years too late.
[quote author=post-morten link=topic=12201.In Oct 94 there was gonna be a death party in a punk squat in a Stockholm suburb, which would've been my first chance to see BDN. To my dismay it coincided with a trip abroad that couldn't be changed, so I missed out and it took another couple of years
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Was this at Vita huset ("the white house") in Täby? I went to that show, it really was great! Have seen BDN a couple of times after that, latest just a few months ago at Nalen, and never liked it much, but that first gig was something else!
Quote from: magnus on August 13, 2022, 06:40:59 PM
Was this at Vita huset ("the white house") in Täby? I went to that show, it really was great! Have seen BDN a couple of times after that, latest just a few months ago at Nalen, and never liked it much, but that first gig was something else!
Yes, that's the event I meant. Perhaps unfair to call the venue a squat. Activity house is probably more like it. Anyway BDN played with ISN, Deutsch Nepal and Ordo Equilibrio. Believe me when I say I'd much rather been there than sipping Mai Tais in Phuket.
Quote from: post-morten on August 15, 2022, 12:08:49 AM
Quote from: magnus on August 13, 2022, 06:40:59 PM
Was this at Vita huset ("the white house") in Täby? I went to that show, it really was great! Have seen BDN a couple of times after that, latest just a few months ago at Nalen, and never liked it much, but that first gig was something else!
Yes, that's the event I meant. Perhaps unfair to call the venue a squat. Activity house is probably more like it. Anyway BDN played with ISN, Deutsch Nepal and Ordo Equilibrio. Believe me when I say I'd much rather been there than sipping Mai Tais in Phuket.
And most of the bands would rather have been sipping Mai Tais then playing in Täby.
Quote from: Phenol on August 11, 2022, 06:34:17 PMNow, some observations about the metal heads who often go to these kinds of shows and have no fucking clue about what they're in for. At two of the gigs, which were in Denmark together with Of The Wand And The Moon, the audience simply left when they found out what BDN was all about. People in metal shirts who couldn't take the heat, fucking hilarious! It is kind of funny since CMI had a lot of crossover with the metal scene back in the day, mostly because of Mortiis, Aghast and MZ 412 probably, while Roger always hated all things metal. Anyway, I find it funny that the metal heads, looking much meaner than most of the industrial/noiseheads, couldn't take BDN even though they have a rather structured and rythmical approach that should talk to the more rock-oriented segment. Some reviews really revealed that these people were clueless about industrial music, saying stuff like "in some of the songs they were ajusting their pedals, they probably felt like that was needed" (quoted from memory). Ignorant shit like that makes me wish for fucking genre-segregation (kidding, kind of...but come on, speak about being ignorant about industrial)! It kind of maybe merits its own thread, but should metal people just get the fuck out of the industrial scene? I can mention less than 5 artists or so with a metal background who are able to make good industrial and vice versa...there might be more, but I'm sure you get what I'm getting at...
That was a great read. It's definitely annoying when (mostly-)Metalheads stumble accross PE/DI/Noise and act all confused or even morally outraged. I'm curious as to whether this type or reaction mostly manifests from Slayer shirted long-haireds or Avant-garde experimentalists alike who listen to Stockhausen and John Cage, being the latter often more than open towards forms of music that might sound out of the box, whatever the aesthetic presentation.
Many good stories around this forum involving true interaction between people who dwelled within the scene to some extent is not only amusing but revigorating. In my country, for example, there are no stores dedicated to Industrial or Noise music, thus every release I own from this style of music comes from outside. Not even on ebay and stuff. The only place which would probably sell this kind of music is a gallery in here that is known for its decades long cultivation of sub-culture related music, from rock and metal to hip-hop, reggae, tattoos and all that shit. I proceeded to ask some of the stores if they had Whitehouse/Prurient/Merzbow albums (because I didn't want to simply bust into the store asking for releases of GENOCIDE LOLITA, MAUTHAUSEN ORCHESTRA, NICOLE 12, heh) due to them being well recognized acts - didn't find anything, and the sellers didn't even know what I was talking about. I went to the harshest store there, focused on Black and Death Metal to ask if it had Brighter Death Now albums. "You know, Death Industrial, like?" The guy responds that "oh, that's like one of that Drone stuff you kids listen to, am I right?" HAHAHA!
Anyway, really enjoy Roger's sample work. Some of them, such as Adipocere and UriNITED, evoke the sheer perversity and boundlessness of Death Industrial with pure wit and darkness. I was listening to the Noisextra episode on Innerwar, and am curious as to where the American Tale sample comes from. The Innerwar one is Ted Bundy. But the hoster comment on the other one being a news report on two children being stabbed outside of a daycare home, all the while the other children were having a party outside. Does anyone have any idea on what's behind that? Probably no one, but anyway.
Anyone know if the Bomb the Daynursery boxset will be issued on cd?
Speaking of random finds of this sort of music in normal record stores---I think it's just luck a lot of the time. I found one of the Current 93 experimental albums (i.e. non-neofolk) at a folk record store, and more recently found a still sealed Skin Area 2cd set on CMI for $5 in the very small goth/industrial section of another local store (along with an early reissue of the In Slaughter Natives debut).
as a Metalhead, Brighter Death Now and Cold Meat Industry have been my first link ever to the industrial stuff, mainly due to Mortiis (I never really got into MZ412 until a few years ago). Karmanik's music is one of my main inspirations ever, but it was a kind of delusion when I saw him live last year (for various reasons I didn't manage to see a show of him before then) together with Raison d'Etre. He was pretty much wasted and dropped the table after barely 20 mins he started to play. Quite punk for sure, and what he did was good, but I expected a better (or at least a longer) show.
Quote from: Into_The_Void on February 03, 2024, 10:46:45 AMas a Metalhead, Brighter Death Now and Cold Meat Industry have been my first link ever to the industrial stuff, mainly due to Mortiis (I never really got into MZ412 until a few years ago). Karmanik's music is one of my main inspirations ever, but it was a kind of delusion when I saw him live last year (for various reasons I didn't manage to see a show of him before then) together with Raison d'Etre. He was pretty much wasted and dropped the table after barely 20 mins he started to play. Quite punk for sure, and what he did was good, but I expected a better (or at least a longer) show.
I saw BDN about 10-12 years ago when Karmanik was drunk, and it was amazing, and then again a few years ago when he was sober, and it was truly awful. Of course, there are limits to how pissed you can be... I suppose there's a tipping point, isn't there?!
Quote from: Balor/SS1535 on February 02, 2024, 06:43:56 PMAnyone know if the Bomb the Daynursery boxset will be issued on cd?
Speaking of random finds of this sort of music in normal record stores---I think it's just luck a lot of the time. I found one of the Current 93 experimental albums (i.e. non-neofolk) at a folk record store, and more recently found a still sealed Skin Area 2cd set on CMI for $5 in the very small goth/industrial section of another local store (along with an early reissue of the In Slaughter Natives debut).
That's the gist of things. One can definitely find noise-related or noise-oriented music on those stores, but never the likes of Taint, Strict or & Con-dom, heh.
Quote from: burdizzo1 on February 03, 2024, 11:29:17 AMI saw BDN about 10-12 years ago when Karmanik was drunk, and it was amazing, and then again a few years ago when he was sober, and it was truly awful. Of course, there are limits to how pissed you can be... I suppose there's a tipping point, isn't there?!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrNsLCBt_44 - speaking of which, BDN seems like an amazing act to be seen live. The project still maintains the raw energy and unadulterated anger which pushes us towards that vortex of infinity that is the Todestrieb of our species. I guess that's what makes a good project, releasing music for decades without losing that omnipresent passion for pushing boundaries and creating good music. Your comment, in particular, reminds me of that segment of Roger's interview on Bardo Methodology in which he describes changing his whole lifestyle just to end up destroying everything and dressing in black as he used to, wallow in being himself. Seems like a nice person to talk with aswell.
Quote from: burdizzo1 on February 03, 2024, 11:29:17 AMQuote from: Into_The_Void on February 03, 2024, 10:46:45 AMas a Metalhead, Brighter Death Now and Cold Meat Industry have been my first link ever to the industrial stuff, mainly due to Mortiis (I never really got into MZ412 until a few years ago). Karmanik's music is one of my main inspirations ever, but it was a kind of delusion when I saw him live last year (for various reasons I didn't manage to see a show of him before then) together with Raison d'Etre. He was pretty much wasted and dropped the table after barely 20 mins he started to play. Quite punk for sure, and what he did was good, but I expected a better (or at least a longer) show.
I saw BDN about 10-12 years ago when Karmanik was drunk, and it was amazing, and then again a few years ago when he was sober, and it was truly awful. Of course, there are limits to how pissed you can be... I suppose there's a tipping point, isn't there?!
Probably I have just had partially bad luck, who knows? The show was quite good, just stopped after not even 20 minutes because he has thrown everything down eheh, quite punk, but at the same time, I would have gladly seen a longer show.
Saw BDN yesterday, joined by Martin Ekelund (TxRxPx), and in my opinion it was one of the best shows I recently watched. Very good and intense!
I have a ticket for the show in Rotterdam next week. Really looking forward to this. Promotor told me last week 150+ pre-sale tickets were sold so there seems to be enough interest for this tour.
Just a heads up that the Cold Meat Industry documentary Soul in Flames (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt33291513/) is officially out now. Yesterday saw its public premiere in Stockholm. The movie tracks the developmental arc of CMI - the rise, the fall, and eventually the resurrection - through a large number of interviews. Roger Karmanik being the protagonist of course, but also people from most of the projects on the label are featured. In addition members of Watain and MGLA gave their testimonials on the influence of CMI. Karmanik's oldest daughter also related some insights from her inside p.o.v. All in all a very good movie telling a universal story, not necessarily related to the music biz: how an entrepreneural mind with a punk ethos launches a succesful one-man venture only to eventually be crushed under financial pressures, exacerbated by domestic and mental issues. But with a happy ending...
After the screening followed a Q&A session with Roger and the director Claudio Marino, hosted by hipster journalist Ika Johannesson (some may recognize her name from the Blood, Fire, Death anthology on Swedish black & death metal). The evening was capped by live performances by In Slaughter Natives and Raison d'Etre.
Keep an eye out on https://artaxfilm.com/ for a regular DVD release. Leftover copies of the crowdfunding special edition still seem to be available. With some luck the movie will hit the film festival circuit at some point.
Looking forward to that film. It's been a long time since it was first announced, so I'm glad it's finally out. Did anyone here get to see any of the recent Necrose Evangelicum shows?
Quote from: Phenol on November 18, 2024, 02:11:06 PMDid anyone here get to see any of the recent Necrose Evangelicum shows?
I saw him on the second to last date of the tour---the show was great and a lot harsher than the studio recordings of the tracks. He should have been the headliner!
A little envious now, I have to admit. I'd like for him to do a Necrose Evangelicum tour on European soil. The gig at the CMI festival was one of the best I've witnessed - very Great Death sounding - but it seems like the recent one in London was back to the usual thing that we've seen a number of times in recent years (I wasn't there, so I could be wrong).
Quote from: Phenol on November 19, 2024, 02:37:52 PMA little envious now, I have to admit. I'd like for him to do a Necrose Evangelicum tour on European soil. The gig at the CMI festival was one of the best I've witnessed - very Great Death sounding - but it seems like the recent one in London was back to the usual thing that we've seen a number of times in recent years (I wasn't there, so I could be wrong).
I was jealous of the London show---Lina Baby Doll was back at it! There are some videos of the US tour (which I am sure you have seen), but the set didn't quite have the same atmosphere as the album itself (though it was easy to tell which track was which).
Quote from: Balor/SS1535 on November 19, 2024, 06:49:47 PMQuote from: Phenol on November 19, 2024, 02:37:52 PMA little envious now, I have to admit. I'd like for him to do a Necrose Evangelicum tour on European soil. The gig at the CMI festival was one of the best I've witnessed - very Great Death sounding - but it seems like the recent one in London was back to the usual thing that we've seen a number of times in recent years (I wasn't there, so I could be wrong).
I was jealous of the London show---Lina Baby Doll was back at it! There are some videos of the US tour (which I am sure you have seen), but the set didn't quite have the same atmosphere as the album itself (though it was easy to tell which track was which).
No surprise they put Sutcliffe No More to close. BDN is great and Lina was a great addition, but following SNM would have been impossible - the energy and intensity levels were so high that one could only go home (or to a pub) after it. Great decision on organisers' part, even though initially I was a bit surprised.
I can't believe I skipped the first act - it wasn't announced but I understand it was Antichildleague with Tamon from Am Not? Kicking myself now. But good news ACL/Am Not gig in December is around the corner.
Quote from: Penon on November 25, 2024, 07:41:41 PMQuote from: Balor/SS1535 on November 19, 2024, 06:49:47 PMQuote from: Phenol on November 19, 2024, 02:37:52 PMA little envious now, I have to admit. I'd like for him to do a Necrose Evangelicum tour on European soil. The gig at the CMI festival was one of the best I've witnessed - very Great Death sounding - but it seems like the recent one in London was back to the usual thing that we've seen a number of times in recent years (I wasn't there, so I could be wrong).
I was jealous of the London show---Lina Baby Doll was back at it! There are some videos of the US tour (which I am sure you have seen), but the set didn't quite have the same atmosphere as the album itself (though it was easy to tell which track was which).
No surprise they put Sutcliffe No More to close. BDN is great and Lina was a great addition, but following SNM would have been impossible - the energy and intensity levels were so high that one could only go home (or to a pub) after it. Great decision on organisers' part, even though initially I was a bit surprised.
I can't believe I skipped the first act - it wasn't announced but I understand it was Antichildleague with Tamon from Am Not? Kicking myself now. But good news ACL/Am Not gig in December is around the corner.
A lot of the time, I feel that many videos do not do justice to the live sets of some bands---and to an extent I think that is the case with SNM. I would have assumed, in abstraction, that BDN would put on the better show, but now I think that SNM must just be much more intense in person than in the clips I have seen online!