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GENERAL SOUND DISCUSSION => GENERAL SOUND DISCUSSION => Topic started by: Hakaristi on August 30, 2023, 02:40:21 PM

Title: Noise with Sax
Post by: Hakaristi on August 30, 2023, 02:40:21 PM
Having enjoyed The New Boyfriends 3 and also recent Lusters tape, looking for recommendations of harsh noise with saxophone. Aware of Maranata, Wiese/Mumma groups, classic Borbeto/Voice Crack collabs etc. but majority of "noise jazz" stuff leans toward more free improv side than full-on noise attack with sax blast... anyone?
Title: Re: Noise with Sax
Post by: Baglady on August 30, 2023, 02:55:49 PM
Wasteland Jazz Unit covers the spectrum from free form jazz to ripping noise. This is a noisy one of their's: https://wastelandjazzunit.bandcamp.com/album/assembled-rejection
Title: Re: Noise with Sax
Post by: FreakAnimalFinland on August 31, 2023, 09:22:06 AM
It is not exactly NOISE with caps on approach, but due being exposed to DISLOCATION (japan) early on with their tapes on noise labels and participation on noise compilations, I didn't associate them as much into improvised music as I did for noise. Anyways, it is somewhere between. There sure is sax and "reeds" used, but always also members doing noisy electronics and it never bound to follow the usual traits of "improv". Sax torment is often really neat ultra-sonic assaults. I will strongly recommend not only quick taster, but listening their works for slightly longer piece to really appreciate how their sets are being build. Band has done also LP, CD etc, but good way to start is 1992 GROSS tape:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=218137s7FQ8
Title: Re: Noise with Sax
Post by: Hakaristi on September 05, 2023, 10:15:24 AM
Wasteland Jazz Unit had totally slipped my mind when posting this, still need that New Forces tape.

Dislocation link is excellent, figured there must be some Japanese folks doing this, was thinking even some Hijokaidan featured sax but perhaps my imagination...

EDIT: Ah yes, Jazz Hijokaidan, like Sax Ruins!
Title: Re: Noise with Sax
Post by: Balor/SS1535 on September 06, 2023, 06:51:33 AM
Not harsh noise, but noisy in other ways: https://www.discogs.com/release/1640881-Various-No-Music-Festival-NO99

I found this comp totally at random at a record store.  I have only listened to a small portion of it, but the first track on the first disc is a long noisy sax jam!
Title: Re: Noise with Sax
Post by: aivosumu on September 06, 2023, 08:00:39 AM
The Fuckings! Awesome tape: https://ruputapes.bandcamp.com/album/rupu021-the-fuckings
Title: Re: Noise with Sax
Post by: Hakaristi on September 06, 2023, 08:27:22 AM
Great lineup on that No Music comp. Some of the collab tracks sound promising - Pedestrian Deposit/Solmania/Nihilist Spasm or Borbeto-Mania.

The Fuckings are good!
Title: Re: Noise with Sax
Post by: NeroEllipsis on September 07, 2023, 10:59:17 AM
The Return of the Real album by Dror Feiler, on the Tochnit Aleph label - Contrabass & Bass Saxophones, Eb Clarinet & Electronics:

https://feiler.bandcamp.com/album/the-return-of-the-real?label=1203753090&tab=artists
Title: Re: Noise with Sax
Post by: tisbor on September 08, 2023, 10:26:14 AM
I toot my own horn (ha) and it's clarinet but:
https://taeter.bandcamp.com/album/abysmal-collapse
https://turgidanimalrecordsitaliandivision.bandcamp.com/album/s-t
Title: Re: Noise with Sax
Post by: Hakaristi on September 08, 2023, 11:45:51 AM
Quote from: tisbor on September 08, 2023, 10:26:14 AMI toot my own horn (ha) and it's clarinet but:
https://taeter.bandcamp.com/album/abysmal-collapse
https://turgidanimalrecordsitaliandivision.bandcamp.com/album/s-t

Yes! Sure I've heard some horns on another Taeter release too, was it the Pene Squad split. Dig Diarrheal Blast's nod to the classic manifesto, "We hate Borbetomagus. Piss off John Coltrane. Asshole Painkiller..." heh.
Title: Re: Noise with Sax
Post by: tisbor on September 08, 2023, 05:38:45 PM
Quote from: Hakaristi on September 08, 2023, 11:45:51 AM
Quote from: tisbor on September 08, 2023, 10:26:14 AMI toot my own horn (ha) and it's clarinet but:
https://taeter.bandcamp.com/album/abysmal-collapse
https://turgidanimalrecordsitaliandivision.bandcamp.com/album/s-t

Yes! Sure I've heard some horns on another Taeter release too, was it the Pene Squad split. Dig Diarrheal Blast's nod to the classic manifesto, "We hate Borbetomagus. Piss off John Coltrane. Asshole Painkiller..." heh.

Glad you got the tribute to Hanatarash!
I've been using brass sounds on Taeter tracks for a long time, so much that my friend Paolo eventually joined the "band" on clarinet
Title: Re: Noise with Sax
Post by: cheeses on September 09, 2023, 08:56:07 PM
How about this one: Ryoko Ono (alto saxophone) & Toshiji Mikawa (electronics)
https://www.discogs.com/release/12010177-Ryoko-Ono-Toshiji-Mikawa-Beyond-Screaming-Sax
Title: Re: Noise with Sax
Post by: Haare on September 09, 2023, 09:03:32 PM
Quote from: aivosumu on September 06, 2023, 08:00:39 AMThe Fuckings! Awesome tape: https://ruputapes.bandcamp.com/album/rupu021-the-fuckings
Thanks! This session is from 2006 but we decided to record some more later this year.
Title: Re: Noise with Sax
Post by: Bruitiste on September 12, 2023, 12:25:58 AM
The Alan Licht / Tamio Shiraishi: Our Lips Are Sealed CD on RRR/Pure is a very noisy and screechy 20 minutes.
Title: Re: Noise with Sax
Post by: Volcano Queen on September 12, 2023, 01:55:40 AM
The late works of Masayuki Takayanagi absolutely need a mention. Sounds like if Fushitsusha was a jazz group.
https://www.discogs.com/release/1026195-Masayuki-Takayanagi-New-Direction-Unit-Mass-Hysterism-In-Another-Situation

There's also the Wolf Eyes & Anthony Braxton collaboration, but the former record is a lot more consistently noisy.
https://www.discogs.com/release/975012-Wolf-Eyes-Anthony-Braxton-Black-Vomit
Title: Re: Noise with Sax
Post by: Hakaristi on September 18, 2023, 02:42:31 AM
Quote from: cheeses on September 09, 2023, 08:56:07 PMHow about this one: Ryoko Ono (alto saxophone) & Toshiji Mikawa (electronics)
https://www.discogs.com/release/12010177-Ryoko-Ono-Toshiji-Mikawa-Beyond-Screaming-Sax

This led me to a couple of live sets from them: https://youtu.be/trcib8IGUj4 /// https://youtu.be/A730vEp9Ums
Some great moments of harsh but also laptop beats, wacky touchpad noise and other stuff that kinda kills it for me. Second gig is more restrained experimental. Not sure which vein the CD is in.

Know Ono's work from Sax Ruins but wasn't aware of her more recent instrumental prog metal band, Plastic Dogs, which is killer!

Quote from: Bruitiste on September 12, 2023, 12:25:58 AMThe Alan Licht / Tamio Shiraishi: Our Lips Are Sealed CD on RRR/Pure is a very noisy and screechy 20 minutes.

Some painful earhole torture there, not so different from the Snuff album I returned to afterward!

Quote from: Volcano Queen on September 12, 2023, 01:55:40 AMThe late works of Masayuki Takayanagi absolutely need a mention. Sounds like if Fushitsusha was a jazz group.
https://www.discogs.com/release/1026195-Masayuki-Takayanagi-New-Direction-Unit-Mass-Hysterism-In-Another-Situation

There's also the Wolf Eyes & Anthony Braxton collaboration, but the former record is a lot more consistently noisy.
https://www.discogs.com/release/975012-Wolf-Eyes-Anthony-Braxton-Black-Vomit

Definitely a fan of Masayuki Takayanagi. Not so much Wolf Eyes but will check those Braxton collabs.
Title: Re: Noise with Sax
Post by: spiritassembly on September 18, 2023, 03:12:19 PM
This K2 (electronics) + .es (alto sax/piano) collab is a brutal masterpiece.

https://www.discogs.com/release/8865416-K2-With-es-Blackhole