I would expect this is something to consider in many european countries. Over here post made decision to stop all shipments, except gifts. I have hard time believing that if there are possibily millions of packages bending for clearance, that
a letter with gift makes it through the chaos, hah.
So in my store, USA orders are currently not possible to make. Lets hope situation clears at some point. I knew this may be coming and am still talking to various couriers if they can handle it, and what would be level of costs and amount of paperwork it requires. So far appears that nobody really knows, since there doesn't exist system to handle these requirements.
I would also assume that guys who press their releases in European factories may want to check out effects on their deliveries.
QuoteLatest news at Posti
Trump administration's decision impacts currently good shipment to the United States
20.8.2025
On July 30, 2025, the Trump administration announced that the duty exemption for shipments valued up to USD 800 will be removed, effective August 29, 2025. This change has a global impact on all operators transporting goods to the United States.
Under the new rules, customs duties must be paid before goods can be shipped to the United States. Exceptions apply to document shipments and gifts between private individuals, provided the value does not exceed USD 100.
U.S. Customs has not yet provided details on how the payment process will work. Postal operators in various countries currently lack systems to collect the required customs duties.
The situation creates uncertainty around delivery options, return procedures, and responsibilities also in Finland. As a result, suspending shipments of goods to the U.S. is currently the only feasible solution. Several other countries, including Estonia, Sweden, Denmark, and Norway, have announced they will also suspend shipments of commercial goods to the United States.
The last sending date for parcels and letters containing goods to the U.S. is Friday, 22 August 2025.
Document and gift shipments up to 100 USD can still be sent
Shipments of documents from businesses and individuals, as well as gifts between private individuals valued up to USD 100, remain duty-free and can continue to be sent to the U.S.
Working together to resolve the situation
European postal operators are working closely with U.S. Customs and the Universal Postal Union (UPU) to find a solution. The goal is to resume shipments of goods as soon as possible. However, for now, the implementation date of August 29, 2025, remains in effect.
Any updates will be shared as soon as new information becomes available.
https://www.posti.fi/en/latest-news-at-posti/%20/news/trump-administration-decision
Hopefully this gets rectified. Absolutely ridiculous move on our governments part (again). And I was just picking out my next order...fuck.
(From @realDonaldTrump on Truth Social)
QuoteAmerica doesn't need noise from places like Finland or Japan or McDonald Islands (where they don't even have McDonalds) or wherever else, we've got great noise artists, the best Noise artists, everybody from overseas wants our Noise. I got Wolf Eyes to play my inauguration ceremony, great band, also Kid Rock, great American Noise and a dear personal friend. We're going to have a hundred percent tariff on noise from other countries so we can make American Noise great again. we're putting AMERICAN NOISE FIRST!
... Huh , weired , and i didn't smoke weed today...
I always mark packages as gift with a low value. Seems this will continue to work or not?
The duty free treatment is being suspended for all shipments, "regardless of value, country of origin, mode of transportation, or method of entry." This wording is somewhat vague but it does not indicate any exception for gift or private shipments. They're going to use a blanket tariff of $80-200 USD "per item", depending on country. Time will tell how this is all actually applied but it implies that gifts won't be excluded from the tariffs. WCN also won't be shipping to the USA for the time being.
https://www.international-logistics-group.com/uk-en/insights/us-de-minimis-removal-2025-162031/
Quote from: prolapsedlielack on August 21, 2025, 10:20:19 AMHopefully this gets rectified. Absolutely ridiculous move on our governments part (again). And I was just picking out my next order...fuck.
Back to local noise again, I guess...
Quote from: WCN on August 21, 2025, 06:36:04 PMThey're going to use a blanket tariff of $80-200 USD "per item"
This is insane, I don't think it will last for long. Probably just a temporary halt to get organized. - Haven't they agreed to 15% tariff with EU ? I think the whole thing finally will be something like that we have in EU for imports plus the tariff, so : 15% + VAT + a fee the postal service charges for the custom work - what work? - .
Actually just looked a little closer and found this on the whitehouse site: "Longstanding exemptions under 19 U.S.C. 1321(a)(2)(A) and (B) remain in place – meaning American travelers can still bring back up to $200 in personal items and individuals can continue to receive bona fide gifts valued at $100 or less duty-free."
So perhaps it's business as usual after all?
Knowing Trump he will flip flop and go back on this. This is definitely going to hurt a ton of businesses and people in the USA and will only further fuck the economy, especially if carriers are just plain refusing to deliver things to the USA.
Quote from: Balor/SS1535 on August 21, 2025, 07:04:35 PMQuote from: prolapsedlielack on August 21, 2025, 10:20:19 AMHopefully this gets rectified. Absolutely ridiculous move on our governments part (again). And I was just picking out my next order...fuck.
Back to local noise again, I guess...
Ha, I'll pass...time to retire!
Quote from: prolapsedlielack on August 21, 2025, 11:44:39 PMQuote from: Balor/SS1535 on August 21, 2025, 07:04:35 PMQuote from: prolapsedlielack on August 21, 2025, 10:20:19 AMHopefully this gets rectified. Absolutely ridiculous move on our governments part (again). And I was just picking out my next order...fuck.
Back to local noise again, I guess...
Ha, I'll pass...time to retire!
With the scene the way it is---good call!
It was on the news that Finnish post will suspended also sending gifts and documents, that are supposedly free.
This was because many airlines have refused to carry post to USA. At least in Finland, "customs" doesn't have the packages and letters, but they actually are at the warehouses of those deliverers. I would assume that in situation where there is no logistics to handle situation, warehouses will be cluttered with stuff and there won't be space for them.
In situation where you got endless amount of containers filled with boxes of stuff waiting for cleaning out, would be fairly optimistic idea that sending letter with a CD as a gift, would somehow travel through all that chaos. Hah..
15% tariff - no problem. We all here in Europe have ALWAYS paid taxes. VAT in Finland is among highest 25,5%. And that applies not only to commercial goods, but also to gifts over 45 euro value, and you pay 25,5% for value of gift AND shipping costs too.
Problem is lack of system. They don't have one, and its been told post can't even build one and there is not really system for it in US either.
At least UPS told they have system for both, sender paying tariffs or receiver paying them. Sending bigger boxes probably will become ok. Letter mail will remain interesting to see how it goes. I know some countries have already given up on it. I recall news that Denmark is ending letter mail this year, right?
Bpost, the national Belgian postal service, is also suspending all packages from tomorrow to the US until there's more clarity on the tariffs.
However, note that this is effecting postal services. So FEDEX, UPS and such companies, they should be doing business as usual. Currently about to finalize some new deals and hoping to get back to shipping probably September or something...
In Italy from today every shipping under 800$ is blocked.
I'm waiting a package from USA and I'm pretty worried now.
It's blocked in Los Angeles from one week now....
It's just shipping from Europe to USA that's temporarily postponed at the moment, but not from USA to Europe? I'm just learning of this shit now. It's always something!
Quote from: Cranial Blast on August 22, 2025, 09:56:12 PMIt's just shipping from Europe to USA that's temporarily postponed at the moment, but not from USA to Europe? I'm just learning of this shit now. It's always something!
Yes man, it seems so.
From Europe to USA is blocked, but from USA to Europe is possible.
I hope so because I'm waiting a parcel from USA!
Quote from: Stipsi on August 22, 2025, 10:01:10 PMQuote from: Cranial Blast on August 22, 2025, 09:56:12 PMIt's just shipping from Europe to USA that's temporarily postponed at the moment, but not from USA to Europe? I'm just learning of this shit now. It's always something!
Yes man, it seems so.
From Europe to USA is blocked, but from USA to Europe is possible.
I hope so because I'm waiting a parcel from USA!
Ehhh that sucks... Hopefully this is something temporary. I've got two packages I absolutely have to mail out tomorrow that are both going overseas. It's my day off tomorrow and hopefully I won't have any issues at the post office.
Quote from: impulse manslaughter on August 21, 2025, 05:30:20 PMI always mark packages as gift with a low value. Seems this will continue to work or not?
Dutch postal service now postponed all parcels for the US as well...
https://www.discogs.com/about/news/united-states-tariff-impact-music-media-2025/
QuoteVinyl records, CDs, cassettes, and other recorded media should be exempt from any tariffs under US presidential executive order.