Forgiveness if this subject has been brought up, feel free to delete. Wanted to discuss a more narrowed down focus on a trend within industrial *usually* found among older material. That is, industrial / noisy oriented rhythmic stuff - as "industrial" and "techno industrial" are too broad of terms. Projects like Esplendor Geometrico; SPK's Information Overload album; TG's "What a Day". Some Crash Worship might fit into this description. Tuning Circuits comes to mind. Older Ah Cama-Sotz. Some Bourbonese Qualk as well.
What i don't mean is stuff like Death Grips (ugh), Techno Animal, Converter et al. I also don't merely mean more techno / commercial stuff with some abrasive elements. I don't mean NIN, FLA, newer Skinny Puppy et al.
What is some more recent stuff that touches on this vibe? Mentioned in another thread is that the ease of access to gear possibly causing a bit of saturation and banality in that much of the "industrial techno" today is far too polished or redundant - ie "Goth Club" industrial which I rarely get into at all, personally.
In the same respect that the only real metal that really resonates with me tends to be raw black metal -this is true as well when it comes to my interest in most "industrial" experimental stuff as well, though there are exceptions, of course.
In the same light it should be noted that the term "industrial" is obviously far too broad at this point, hence more defining terms narrowing it down, but in the style I'm getting at that's really the only descriptor I could think of besides "Rhythmic Noise".
Some more modern projects offhand that touch on this is Coagul from Spain (though the production is less "old school"), and the Mortal Fear tape on the Aesthetic House label (highly recommended if you're unfamiliar). Obviously use of older gear helps this. While getting into the more techno end of things I've been enjoying a small handful of artists on the Pinkman label that also bleed into this style also, though it's a case by case basis.
Could be interested in Reptile Womb, crossover potential with your stated interest in raw BM.
Yes after a revisit Reptile Womb gets into that territory for sure. Good stuff. Not much like that out there.
Will Over Matter-Seven Impulses/The Spell Of Vengeance
I.M.C.P.-Embryotomi
Spinbox-Pragamaticus
Henry Hektik-Motion P. Music
F.A.R.-Lust
Final Payment-Brothers In Harm
The Grey Wolves-Judgement/Chaos Ov Creation
Glad to see Tuning Circuits mentioned as well, that album needs a reissue.
I would say Schmerlabor - Juggernaut 1 & 2 scratches that itch
I recommend Vivenza.
I recommend this thread, lots of great suggestions that might be what you are seeking:
https://special-interests.net/forum/index.php?topic=14084.msg112853#msg112853
Good insights here. Thank you. If users have their own projects feel free to mention, please don't be shy. As stated I don't intend on starting a long thread for older material, I'm curious about active or at least somewhat recent material that fits in this niche. The thread mentioned above could certainly be revived in the case of early material (and probably should be). I don't want to seem ridged about this, we could go on for pages in regards to stuff from the 80s etc.
Like I implied earlier, a lot of "popular" "industrial" today just strikes me as abrasive club music, heh.
Some recent Teatro Satanico might qualify, certain Haus Arafna tracks as well. Great projects.
Obviously there is a bit of a gradient from the more "techno" style to rhythmic noise but that's kind of what I'm honing in on here.
Its not exactly new (newer than the 80s though), and you may already be aware of them since you mentioned ACS, but Winterkälte always comes to mind for that kind of sound, especially as Esplendor Geometrico were a huge influence on their sound.
Schachtanlage Gegenort may fit the bill as well.
If you search Winterkalte or Vivenza, you'll find some threads that might interest you. This is probably the best one, or at least the one I look to use:
https://special-interests.net/forum/index.php?topic=3518.0
Esplendor Geometrico are clearly the masters of this current within industrial. They have never deviated from the formula in their long career. Le Syndicat come second.
Zeno, I've often taken your recs with strong consideration. I mostly lurk here but even in the Troniks days your insights were always appreciated.
Yes, Esplendor Geometrico were a big reason they were the first to be mentioned, especially as they are still active afaik. I may have been a bit harsh dismissing Techno Animal and Converter initially -- I personally wasn't too engaged with my first exposure but they do fit this bill in many respects.
Propergol also deserves a mention here.
Two suggestions, 1990s stuff so far from recent:
Early Orphx, namely Fragmentation on Malignant (I think it was recently reissued). While later material (starting with In Vita Mediativa) is firmly in the techno realm, I used to joke that Fragmentation is the best SPK album.
Einleitungszeit: indisputably one of the best industrial projects ever; masterful use of rhythmic elements in the context of bleak and harsh soundscapes. An early tape and some other LPs were recently rereleased. Especially the early tapes, and the mid-period stuff (Auranoise and Doba Uvodu), are close to what I understand you are after. But all of their work fits in here.
From the artists you specifically referenced, like Esplendor Geometrico, or tracks from Throbbing Gristle like "What A Day," hands down the best modern artist I've heard in that style is the American artist Corporate Park, which has some excellent releases on Virtues Label. You can find and listen to them easily on bandcamp.
Quote from: MALVM on April 05, 2026, 11:03:31 PMZeno, I've often taken your recs with strong consideration. I mostly lurk here but even in the Troniks days your insights were always appreciated.
Yes, Esplendor Geometrico were a big reason they were the first to be mentioned, especially as they are still active afaik. I may have been a bit harsh dismissing Techno Animal and Converter initially -- I personally wasn't too engaged with my first exposure but they do fit this bill in many respects.
Propergol also deserves a mention here.
Try the first Techno Animal album - Ghosts. I suspect it still doesn't fit your parameters, but it's different from the later era of distorted beats.
Not sure if these fit your parameters either but have always been partial to Strom.ec (particularly Divine Legions) and enjoy Agonal Lust for the fact that I can follow what's happening sonically quite easily.
Prurient - Casablanca Flamethrower was a recommendation in the Prurient thread that strongly resonated with me, it removed the techno adjacent stuff from some of his releases, but kept a sense of rhythm and structure.
Some Trepaneringsritualen would fit the bill, as would Mental destruction.
Quote from: Natalia on April 08, 2026, 11:34:08 PMFrom the artists you specifically referenced, like Esplendor Geometrico, or tracks from Throbbing Gristle like "What A Day," hands down the best modern artist I've heard in that style is the American artist Corporate Park, which has some excellent releases on Virtues Label. You can find and listen to them easily on bandcamp.
I'm familiar with them via Beau Wanzer whose work could *almost* make it in this discussion, though he's a bit more on the techno side, i really dig his stuff for sure. I'll look into Corporate Park more thoroughly.