Was listening to Encephalophonic "beauty/death" tape today. Very good stuff. I think tape format, and C-20 length, compliments this release. Presentation of tape brings little connection to MSNP aesthetic, but without utter copycat behavior.
So what it is? It's something what mixing together Macronympha/Sickness/K2 and so on would deliver. It has the fast paced edits of metal junk and pedal noises of Sickness/K2 without being so fast, but with Macro kind of blown-out sound (although cleaner/sharper) with tasty mono-to-stereo transitions happening once in a while. In every way appears to be "typical" elements of harsh noise, yet what is the good dynamic harsh noise of today. I mean:
1) no lazy walls
2) no crackle studies
3) no keyboard melodies thrown in mix
4) no improv jams
5) no lo-fi feedback drone
6) no computer cyber noise
Just the heavy duty and ENERGY filled harsh noise? From Finland I think about some works of Umpio and some works of Keränen. But then when I start to think some good harsh noise things, even from many known artists, suddenly my mind wanders few years back?
Custodian
Easily one of the best new harsh noise artists.
You seemed pretty enthused by Mixturizer's "Siete Patologies". Nearly everything I've heard of this project so far could only be described as Harsh Noise.
Edit - my apologies, I misread the initials in the SI review.
They don't release very frequently but I really like everything I've heard by the duo Age Of Enlightenment on Hospital Productions. Their first tape was nice and long. Their sound is dynamic rumble and crumble accentuated by sharp feedback attacks and metal screeching
The Virgin Spring 12" and tape on Gods of Tundra last year were also quite good. Nice blown out sound bust still very violent.
To be honest I really miss the scathing harsh noise days of Pedestrian Deposit. The new PD stuff is good but primarily entirely removed from harsh noise.
I don't know if AODL and esp. Ahlzagailzehguh qualify as recent enough but everything I have heard by them have been really exciting harsh noise.
ICHOROUS
Quote from: Henrik III on August 12, 2011, 05:27:43 PM
I don't know if AODL and esp. Ahlzagailzehguh qualify as recent enough but everything I have heard by them have been really exciting harsh noise.
yeah, qualifies, but while I was writing opening message, checked out discogs if Ahlzagailzehguh has something new, and seems like most recent longer release is... 2008?
Developer! Cut up harsh noise focused around cassettes!
Quote from: HONOR_IS_KING! on August 13, 2011, 05:29:22 PM
Developer! Cut up harsh noise focused around cassettes!
Seconding this. In general the Dayton scene has the whole dynamic harsh noise thing pretty nailed.
QuoteCustodian
this!
Jah Excretion?
Quote from: andy vomit on August 12, 2011, 08:55:14 PM
ICHOROUS
Seconded. As well as Custodian.
Also:
Being
Rusulka
Taskmaster
Blue Sabbath Black Cheer
Paranoid Time
GM Electronics
also:
Jake Vida
Jute Gyte
Skin Graft
A Snake In The Garden
Quote from: xdementia on August 16, 2011, 06:10:30 AM
also:
Skin Graft
More industrial then harsh noise. Same would be said about Blue Sabbath Black Cheer really........
I don't know if I'd qualify AODL and Ahlzagailzehguh as "new," but both are extremely great.
I second Custodian and Developer.
Where the midwest lacks PE, we make up for it with great Harsh Noise.
New I would mean freshly released. I don't need lists of bands who are "new" in terms of being formed 2005 and having released something back then. I mean new releases as 2010, 2011, which has been good years for raw PE for example and possibly vast availability of HWN, but less of great harsh noise of type described in opening message.
Ah, that makes sense. In that case, those two have release material in the past year. Both Ahlz and AODL are on the ANHEDONIA comp. along with an AODL c30.
Bachir Gemayel has also gotten rid of the HNW title and now does straight up harsh noise.
new good houston HN:
Illicit Relationship
Frustrated Dissector(Illicit Relationship+ Ramirez)
Red Hook
Quote from: PTM Jim on August 17, 2011, 08:30:50 PM
Bachir Gemayel has also gotten rid of the HNW title and now does straight up harsh noise.
Cheers Jim!
Eager to finally get working on stuff after I move out......so excited to test out the double MR8 attack!!!!!!!!
Quote from: HONOR_IS_KING! on August 18, 2011, 01:20:19 AM
Quote from: PTM Jim on August 17, 2011, 08:30:50 PM
Bachir Gemayel has also gotten rid of the HNW title and now does straight up harsh noise.
Cheers Jim!
Eager to finally get working on stuff after I move out......so excited to test out the double MR8 attack!!!!!!!!
Well you know I'm excited! NCHN! (er...not so much anymore...)
Quote from: PTM Jim on August 18, 2011, 09:10:27 AM
Quote from: HONOR_IS_KING! on August 18, 2011, 01:20:19 AM
Quote from: PTM Jim on August 17, 2011, 08:30:50 PM
Bachir Gemayel has also gotten rid of the HNW title and now does straight up harsh noise.
Cheers Jim!
Eager to finally get working on stuff after I move out......so excited to test out the double MR8 attack!!!!!!!!
Well you know I'm excited! NCHN! (er...not so much anymore...)
My heart still lies in the no coast, no matter where I move.
bury my heart on the no-coast.
Quote from: STREETMEAT on August 17, 2011, 09:47:34 PM
new good houston HN:
Illicit Relationship
Frustrated Dissector(Illicit Relationship+ Ramirez)
Red Hook
Houston must have hundreds of people into noise now for all these new projects...
How many projects is Ramirez involved in?
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on August 20, 2011, 01:09:07 AM
Quote from: STREETMEAT on August 17, 2011, 09:47:34 PM
new good houston HN:
Illicit Relationship
Frustrated Dissector(Illicit Relationship+ Ramirez)
Red Hook
Houston must have hundreds of people into noise now for all these new projects...
How many projects is Ramirez involved in?
really there isnt too much going in houston. mainly the same people.Austin Caustic(concrete violin) and Carol Sandin (rotten piece) do Illicit Relationship. sean of blj, last rape, pis does red hook. some projects pop up here and there but nothing to special.
Ramirez is involved in too many gangbangs and facialfests to count.
Recent tape of Kazuma Kubota + Axonox is really really good.
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on August 12, 2011, 10:55:09 AM5) no lo-fi feedback drone
may i ask what you mean? not sure if i get it right... examples?
kakerlak is generally pretty good. I also like wince and baculum. I feel like they are improv type projects, but not sure if that qualifies as 'jam' band or not.
Don´t know if it´s fair to tag Lettera 22 from Italy Harsh Noise but they are really good. And you got Heinz Hopf from Sweden but in think you already are familiar with booth acts with reviews in Special Interests in mind.
Quote from: pt on August 21, 2011, 11:37:40 PM
kakerlak is generally pretty good. I also like wince and baculum. I feel like they are improv type projects, but not sure if that qualifies as 'jam' band or not.
I don't think they're "improvising" so much in the sense of American Tapes / Fag Tapes stuff. What gives you that impression?
I listened to Encephalophonic's "Metal Obsession" c62 tape and yes, it's great.
90s harsh noise style, with metal bashing, rhythmic loops, synth swooshing..K2, Pain Jerk, Merzbow, Macronympha etc
I'm glad there's still something like this in Italy.
a hybrid, but TRTRKMMR is tremendous. Vicious stuff:
http://aumwar.com/home
Quote from: IronBloodBlasphemy on September 18, 2011, 02:09:02 AM
a hybrid, but TRTRKMMR is tremendous. Vicious stuff:
http://aumwar.com/home
TRTRKMMR is easily the most underrated act in the midwest. That and Anal Hearse.
Culver is drone, whats the relation with harsh noise?
for what it's worth, Anal Hearse is great, can't really be experienced by anyone because there's like no recordings of him. Unless you live within two states of Milwaukee, he's not really anyone that can be heard.... more good projects need to release their first things, enough of these mediocre projects overreleasing every goddamn recording and whoring it out to the forums......
The best Noise tapes I have received in the past few months would have to be:
Developer – WCN008
Wince - Vasovagal Syncope
Wince - Wince
Kakerlak – Crawling To Objectify
Martial God Mask – Death's Head
1188 – First Process
I'm not a huge fan of HN, I prefer P.E., but these 5 tapes definitely gave me a run for my money.
ah yes, Grain Belt CD from a couple of years ago was very good.
As far as i know, it's a "new" band.
Still have to check Matteo's new output Lettera22 but i doubt it's harsh noise.
Some of the more recent stronger harsh noise recordings getting played here:
Encephalophonic - Beauty/Death k7 : Mid to fast paced harsh noise mixing elements of Macronympha, Pain Jerk and K. Endo. A bit tighter feel overall compared to the open ended aggressive behemoth of "Metal Obsession" k7 release. Duration works well as it pushes for upmost quality with little to no room for filler. Really can't give enough praise for this new project.
Endless Sea - Anchors 12" LP : Project of Matteo/Lettera 22. After soaking in the bliss of the Lettera23 LP on A Dear Girl Called Wendy had to recheck other releases I had and this was first up. A bit looser in composition than the refined works of the Lettera 22 but still works quite well. Was a bit worried with the drone based start but once the drone abruptly cuts a few minutes in the entire thing takes it up a few steps. Excellent use of extended scrap metal cuts. Can't help but think though that the fuzz used colors the mix mildly and if different choice was made end result would have been much more chaotic sounding. Minor negative points in the overall picture though and worth checking out.
Mania / Custodian - Split 12" LP : Some of the best Custodian material I have heard along with the tape on WCN a while back. Very simple, straight to the point bursts of noise. No need for dragging dull moments or overextending ideas that many other artists fail with. Some of Custodian's recent tape work on both "Sonance From Detached Life" and "The Weight Of Tension" hasn't been to my liking due to the odd cut/sputter phrasing which just served as a distraction imo. Mania material of the split is more along the lines with the split with GdRO focusing on a heavier industrial edge. Haven't played the ep that F&V did recently so can't comment on how they measure up.
QuoteEndless Sea - Anchors 12" LP
i have to listen to this too, other material from Endless Sea is good!
I had talks about an Encephalophonic release on Turgid Animal, i'm really glad something of this quality comes out of Italy.
Still haven't listened to the Anchors LP, but the cassettes on Joy De Vivre and Cathartic Process are both very good and right up my alley. Probably said this before but i think the Endless Sea/Lettera 22/Kam Hassah stuff is all some of the more, "new", exciting european stuff happening for a while. Definitely deserves more attention.
Faux Pas has not been mentioned here, pretty good no brainer harsh noise from Marhaug and Sten Ove Toft, and a fairly new project as far as i know.
Hey, good to see Encephalophonic finally getting their due. Plugged the shit on the black board back in July, no response. Guess I should be directing my rants this way.
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on August 12, 2011, 10:55:09 AM
1) no lazy walls
2) no crackle studies
3) no keyboard melodies thrown in mix
4) no improv jams
5) no lo-fi feedback drone
6) no computer cyber noise
Of couse, to paraphrase Endo, so much does this go without saying that the opposing tendency has long since come and gone; just to make a point on the prescriptive tendency.
I mean, I like tasteful atmosphere much as the next gent. But at the same time, "That is why we reject it."
Seriously - Kakerlak's CS on TF/PE is a tape you cannot go wrong with as is the entire White Centipede Noise catalog.
Hospital (literally) just released new Viodre and Ahlz CDs. Guaranteed to be mandatory.
So what's been good from 2012 so far? As of right now, it seems to be a Power Electronics dominated year. The 3 of 4 tapes that I heard from the latest batch on White Centipede were extremely good but that is no surprise, the Tourette release on Skeleton Dust was nice as well. So what else?
I agree that it's been a more PE dominated year so far, but here are some of the ones, thus far, that have gained my attention:
mtDNA - Between Another Magic Mushroom
Engines Of Modern Dysfunction Vol. 1 (comp featuring Weise, Ahlz, K2, Facialmess, etc.)
LHD - Even Still (comp of old material, however, this is 100% MANDITORY)
Sissy Spacek - Harm
Developer - OOBR004 (Wow, is this one fucking good)
Virgin Spring - Widening Tail
and, even though I released them, these are seriously perfect and shouldn't be missed by any HN fanatics:
Hostage Pageant - Filth Consumption Tactics
Sirotek - A Hole In My Heart
I just want to agree and mention the Orgasmic Response Unit tape on WCN by name - I seriously loved this one. Just totally relentless shrapnel and crushed noise mayhem. For me, a near perfect noise tape that I just want to keep turning up louder and louder.
The Contemporary Harsh Noise Vol 1. - Waste comp is also fantastic
Quote from: nidding on August 13, 2011, 11:14:40 PM
Quote from: HONOR_IS_KING! on August 13, 2011, 05:29:22 PM
Developer! Cut up harsh noise focused around cassettes!
Seconding this. In general the Dayton scene has the whole dynamic harsh noise thing pretty nailed.
why haven't I heard of this?
Quote from: tisbor on September 19, 2011, 02:13:59 PMStill have to check Matteo's new output Lettera22 but i doubt it's harsh noise.
It is harsh noise for sure, with element of drone, concrete and field recordings. Great stuff, some of the most exciting new noise going.
Tooting my own horn here but my duo Inverted Nepal with my friend Paul (who played on classic Smell & Quim albums The Jissom Killers and A Sod's As Good As A Wank To A Blind Arse) have been recording some material lately that will most likely appeal to fans of the dense, active 90s harsh noise sound. A tape should be out soon.
Quote from: Half Aborted on August 13, 2012, 06:54:25 PM
Quote from: tisbor on September 19, 2011, 02:13:59 PMStill have to check Matteo's new output Lettera22 but i doubt it's harsh noise.
It is harsh noise for sure, with element of drone, concrete and field recordings. Great stuff, some of the most exciting new noise going.
Tooting my own horn here but my duo Inverted Nepal with my friend Paul (who played on classic Smell & Quim albums The Jissom Killers and A Sod's As Good As A Wank To A Blind Arse) have been recording some material lately that will most likely appeal to fans of the dense, active 90s harsh noise sound. A tape should be out soon.
A year has passed and yes, i confirm that Lettera 22 is excellent!
***self promotion***
Existence Establishment Presents: Lackthrow - Release 2xCDR http://existest.org/ee_v3/?p=5506
Lackthrow is a name most unknown to noise fans of today but Andrew Powell has been active and creating noise under several different guises – twit/ch, Internal Empty, A Hymn For Her – since 1990. The project has been alive and hyperactive for many years and time has seen it take many forms from experimental surrealism, or harsh Masonna-influenced cut up noise, to power electronics and back again. Even spanning into weird ambience, synth-pop and cybergrind influences.
Quote from: xdementia on August 17, 2012, 07:02:34 PM
***self promotion***
Existence Establishment Presents: Lackthrow - Release 2xCDR http://existest.org/ee_v3/?p=5506
Lackthrow is a name most unknown to noise fans of today but Andrew Powell has been active and creating noise under several different guises – twit/ch, Internal Empty, A Hymn For Her – since 1990. The project has been alive and hyperactive for many years and time has seen it take many forms from experimental surrealism, or harsh Masonna-influenced cut up noise, to power electronics and back again. Even spanning into weird ambience, synth-pop and cybergrind influences.
I talked with him on facebook, such an articulate dude.
A Snake In The Garden - The Shepherds Are Lost, The Sheep Are Scattered (Sound Holes) - 2012
A Snake In The Garden - Paralysis and Leaving the Body (Brise Cul) - 2011
GRKZGL / Flatgrey – Split (Brise Cul) - 2012
Diaphragmatic – Exsanguinate (Fusty Cunt) - 2012
John Madigan Moloney – Illusion.DisIllusionment (Jungle Crunk) - 2011
Heart Of The Whore - Life Of Vapor (Phage Tapes) - 2012
Faux Pas – Dobbel Haestkuk (Second Sleep) - 2011
Developer - IF 15 (Imminent Frequencies) - 2011
is Zebra Mu worth checking out or am I wasting my time?
and more pe than noise but I'm looking for something resembling harsh noise/pe mixed with breakbeats like what Folkstorm attempted on Sweden.
ALL of the STIFF SANCTORUM tapes!!
Quote from: xdementia on August 16, 2011, 12:37:56 AM
Being
FUCK!!!
I see Xdementia recommended this already back in 2011... Now currently listening to "Hunters Fingers" tape and it is killer noise release. C-20, but that's pretty much enough. Starts little bit slow. Makes me first think "ässh... another crackle study", but then full power hits in your face. Brilliant!!!
I know this is just because due my hoarding habits of noise tapes, I got bunch of Being stuff already in piles just waiting to get listened. But already today wasting time on few semi-ok'ish releases by whatever projects, I really like the feeling of being cleansed by purifying noise blast what shows skills and taste. Now I know what I'll grab next when I go through shelves of bought-but-not-listened-yet items...
Got couple of these in distro and recommend for fans of good no-bullshit harsh noise!
@Mikko - Are you serious, you've never listened to Being before Hunters Fingers?
Yep. I think I have couple tapes, but just haven't listened them yet. Needless to say I have probably 1000 items waiting..
I don't remember anyone stressing how good it actually is... Or lets say, the people I would know they aren't just saying because he's friend or local.
Cementimental
Derek from ex-Messiah Complex (Scotland) has started making new death industrial/harsh noise by the name of Asahara.
First album can be found at http://vilenoise.bandcamp.com/album/a-perfect-love-a-perfect-hate, have spun it in the car a few times, sounds great loud.
Well, some of the named dropped in this topic are not really "new good harsh noise".
Like this Asahara, it's more of Pleasure Ground era Prurient. There's tones of dark keyboards, some noise on top and delayed screamo vocals and each song has kind of rhythmic or compositional structures more common with contemporary post-industrial/"PE" than just sheer loud harsh noise.
At the same time, it kind of shows that just solid, rough, nasty harsh noise appears to be almost nonexistent minority now?!? Where are the really NEW and GOOD bands?
As reminder, that what it is, that I'm looking for in this topic (feel free to start new good PE, new good ambient, etc..):
QuoteWas listening to Encephalophonic "beauty/death" tape today. Very good stuff. I think tape format, and C-20 length, compliments this release. Presentation of tape brings little connection to MSNP aesthetic, but without utter copycat behavior.
So what it is? It's something what mixing together Macronympha/Sickness/K2 and so on would deliver. It has the fast paced edits of metal junk and pedal noises of Sickness/K2 without being so fast, but with Macro kind of blown-out sound (although cleaner/sharper) with tasty mono-to-stereo transitions happening once in a while. In every way appears to be "typical" elements of harsh noise, yet what is the good dynamic harsh noise of today. I mean:
1) no lazy walls
2) no crackle studies
3) no keyboard melodies thrown in mix
4) no improv jams
5) no lo-fi feedback drone
6) no computer cyber noise
EDIT: lets add no power electronics, no ambient, no drone!!!
Just the heavy duty and ENERGY filled harsh noise? From Finland I think about some works of Umpio and some works of Keränen. But then when I start to think some good harsh noise things, even from many known artists, suddenly my mind wanders few years back?
As reminder what is harsh noise I mean:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYz2l4FP4cI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUzHNKHh1mk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KT7GbQSnfys
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHksWF5R0Qk
etc.
Plenty of possibilities there... but see the list of no no's. Other good music to other topics...
Fair point.
but that said, perhaps topic for new good PE or something could be useful? But that stuff appears to be quite well presented now. It was very different some years ago, when rough PE appeared to be minority, and harsh noise was going strong.
Now many of the past harsh noisers have moved on to less straight noise. I don't say that it is bad. Possibly better, than restrict creative impulses.
However, many times I find myself craving for solid brutal harsh head rituals, but mostly option is to look back. 20, 15, 10 years.... So I remain little amazed, is solid brutal harsh noise living now quiet moment? As this approach is (to me) very timeless, I think basically anyone can challenge the masterworks and it doesn't sound like there would be retro back in the 90's nostalgia, but simply capturing the pure essence of noise.
Now that I listened for example always praised "Pulsedemon", I have no problems to say, that BEING tape mentioned few messages ago, probably tops that. It may sound heresy, hah, but I find it true. Of course it is different. Same could be said about Testicle Hazard output being easily better than anything Incapacitants released after ... 2005? My humble opinion. And despite one could say the operational field of harsh noise is very limited, I would not agree. Certainly huge variety of tools, methods and approaches what approach from different angle, but remain.... pure.
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on April 06, 2013, 03:58:40 PM
At the same time, it kind of shows that just solid, rough, nasty harsh noise appears to be almost nonexistent minority now?!?
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on April 06, 2013, 05:48:44 PM
So I remain little amazed, is solid brutal harsh noise living now quiet moment?
No offense but I think there's something wrong with your thought-process. Earlier on in this discussion you admitted that you have 1000 releases on a pile that you have not listened to, yet.
If this is the case, how is it possible for you to determine whether Harsh Noise is "quiet" or even "nonexistent" at the moment?
BEING - to stick with your example - has been putting out rock-solid material since '06 and you just noticed the project recently, right?
At any given time we only see a fraction of what is really out there, therefore we should be careful with assessments like the one above.
There's a whole bunch of great Harsh Noise that has already been mentioned in this thread.
It's simply because 1000 unlistened releases is not of just "harsh noise", but stuff of all types, and from very wide time scale. If I'm in mood to hear new harsh noise by new artists, and I see rows of contemporary art music, metal, industrial, pe, punk and rac... those 1000 items won't help me to fill need of
2013 harsh noise from new maker. It's possible there is some harsh noise I didn't listen yet, but to realize what tapes would be that, even then it's useful.
Sometimes I buy big chunks of stuff at once. Say, opportunity presents itself to buy 30 LP's of 80's hardcore. Some distro lists has 50 LP's of RAC what is unlikely to get later on. I buy it. I may know band X is great, so I end up getting everything they have done, but don't want to burn myself listening everything right away, but perhaps during next 10 years. Some stuff remains on the shelves, unlistened, for 10+ years. But most often for reason. Like, do I need to listen the AUBE tape I just got now - or next year. It's doesn't matter as stuff is already 15 years old.
But I like to keep up to date, what is happening right now.
Quote from: Potier on April 07, 2013, 01:08:34 AM
There's a whole bunch of great Harsh Noise that has already been mentioned in this thread.
Yep, and I'm asking them to be mentioned. That's what this thread is for.
Lets see what has been mention, with some brief comments:
1188 (project of Klaus Hansen, not really new to this, but yeah, got it, good, 2011)
A Snake In The Garden (appears to do stuff since '07 ? I should have his phage tape releases somewhere... waiting ;) for example "Contemporary Harsh Noise vol II")
Ahlzagailzehguh (since.. 2003 is it? 10 years of great stuff hardly "new" anymore. Solid stuff no complaints, though)
AODL (same as above)
Being (already worshipped)
Blue Sabbath Black Cheer (someone asked if this is more muddy industrial stuff, and that's my impression - but maybe got to listen more? Now listened some sample and it certainly had harsh elements but also gloomy droning element and vocals..)
Custodian (justa about as good example as there can be. Project was appears to have started 2009 - really being new. And harsh noise!)
Developer (justa about as good example as there can be. Project was appears to have started 2011?? - really being new. And harsh noise!)
Diaphragmatic – Exsanguinate (Fusty Cunt) - 2012 (Same guy who's in Orgasmic Response Unit, which is very nice, this project I never heard but appears to be exactly what I look for in this topic)
Encephalophonic (many times worshipped and given example already in first message)
Endless Sea (master Matteo Castro who in short time made name with this, Kam Hassah, Lettera 22 - totally worshipped!)
Faux Pas (veteran project by Lasse Marhaug, Sten Ove Toft.. hardly "new" even is project is new. Kind of same as Testicle Hazard)
GM Electronics (already since 2002 is it? not so new anymore)
Grain Belt (new, but also project consisting members of same guys who do noise by themselves. I wasn't blown away by CD, but not bad. Prefer their solo works)
GRKZGL (since 2006, never heard appears to be just suitable. I don't buy CDR's what is most of his early output)
Heart Of The Whore (project of guys mentioned before in their solo projects)
ICHOROUS (time flies fast! This also already 8 years in scene, right? Of course good items, etc, but 8 years.. "new"? In some ways yes, but hardly in same ways as bands that put out their first release in 2011.
Jute Gyte (Somehow doesn't look like harsh noise projects and listened on youtube and this is some stuff reminding melodic black metal, wtf?)
Illicit Relationship (is it one-off project of Concrete Violin, now r.i.p.? In some ways new, but in some ways not really)
Lackthrow (been around already from turn of 90's... hardly new)
Jah Excretion (one of few Japan harsh noisers that are young (2009 started??) and pretty good and also put out real releases. In deed I have got bunch of links from electronic harsh noise makers from Japan looking for label, who only uploaded stuff.
Jake Vida (Started 2005..? making it also approaching soon 10 years milestone. Not always harsh noise)
John Madigan Moloney (member also in heart of whore. Haven't heard his solo work, but I read "experimental/noise".?)
Kakerlak (got many of his.. Also Dog Holocaust stuff. Since 2006)
Martial God Mask (haven't heard it. 2009 one release)
Mixturizer (he's been around since early 90's under different names. This since 2006. Hit & miss, sometimes very good)
mtDNA - Between Another Magic Mushroom
Orgasmic Response Unit (good project, features members of other known new projects)
Paranoid Time (since 2005, again making it little unsure if almost 10 year old bands with well known discography and labels/guys very clearly present in scene would be "new" ?)
Red Hook (tx harsh noise since 2009 or what? I think I have this Ramirez split but that's all)
Rusulka (??)
Skin Graft (more gutter industrial?)
Taskmaster (2006 onwards, good)
Virgin Spring (who's this? Is it Conelly's project? If yes, then hardly so "new", but just spin off by legendary old noise maker)
Wince (great and worshipped!)
so basically if we erase those, what are side projects of veterans and bands that are hardly "new", but almost 10 years active in scene (so lets say last 5 years, making it bands of 2008 onwards), and also bands that don't appear to be harsh noise, there's..
A Snake In The Garden (appears to do stuff since '07 ? I should have his phage tape releases somewhere... waiting ;) for example "Contemporary Harsh Noise vol II")
Being (already worshipped)
Custodian (justa about as good example as there can be. Project was appears to have started 2009 - really being new. And harsh noise!)
Developer (justa about as good example as there can be. Project was appears to have started 2011?? - really being new. And harsh noise!)
Diaphragmatic – Exsanguinate (Fusty Cunt) - 2012 (Same guy who's in Orgasmic Response Unit, which is very nice, this project I never heard but appears to be exactly what I look for in this topic)
Encephalophonic (many times worshipped and given example already in first message)
Endless Sea (master Matteo Castro who in short time made name with this, Kam Hassah, Lettera 22 - totally worshipped!)
Grain Belt (new, but also project consisting members of same guys who do noise by themselves. I wasn't blown away by CD, but not bad. Prefer their solo works)
Heart Of The Whore (project of guys mentioned before in their solo projects)
Jah Excretion (one of few Japan harsh noisers that are young (2009 started??) and pretty good and also put out real releases. In deed I have got bunch of links from electronic harsh noise makers from Japan looking for label, who only uploaded stuff.
John Madigan Moloney (member also in heart of whore. Haven't heard his solo work, but I read "experimental/noise".?)
Martial God Mask (haven't heard it. 2009 one release)
Orgasmic Response Unit (good project, features members of other known new projects)
Red Hook (tx harsh noise since 2009 or what? I think I have this Ramirez split but that's all)
Rusulka (??)
Wince (great and worshipped!)
...
And some of them are side projects consisting same people. And most of all, I pretty much got it all - except couple mentioned. So, question remains, is this the good harsh noise of last 5 years?
And, to be clearer, it's not only about stuff I want to listen, but to know.
Question relates to piece I'm doing on SI #9 about "harsh noise 2013". Quite similar as Field Recording article in #8. Involving most of the above mentioned new guys, but also some older guys. And when asked about good new noise, there appears to be little bit void. Still, I'm sure after article would appear, there will be some people crying about writing about my friends and my visions, and ignoring all that's happening out there. I keep asking around, new guys, old guys, artists, label makers, forum users, and it appears that there is not MUCH other than I already know.
Of course, it used to be, that good noise is only noticed perhaps 5-10 years later when it has happened. Only when it really survives the test of time and has proven to be continuously great.
Nevertheless, I'd be curious of - new blood, with new approaches. If I want to listen good harsh noise, I can always put some trusted name on player, but there are often times when I'd like to hear new, unheard, something never experienced before. You know, as said before, I think artists such as WINCE and BEING - according to my opinion (should have about all Wince stuff, not enough of Being) are guys who should have labels spamming them for LP deals. And one could forget many of the bigger names that are nowadays quite weak compared to them.
Talking about Grain Belt and Developer, both part of the White Centipede Noise, I want to mention also Neckhold.
VIRGIN SPRING is now defunct, VIRILE GAMES is the new incarnation.. epic mix of harsh noise, field recordings and concrete parts, closed to some stuff we've done with lettera 22.. the project is run by Matt, a young guy from NY, not connelly
shameless self promotion..
me and francesco tignola, from joy de vivre label, started a new project some months ago DRUG AGE, just harsh noise.. you can listen a couple of tracks here: https://soundcloud.com/secondsleep-1
No mention of HEINZ HOPF? Members aren't new to the "scene" but the project has only been in existence for a few years (since 2010), but have a string of good releases (most recently the CD "Gothenburg") behind them.
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on April 07, 2013, 09:07:13 AM
Rusulka (??)
Spelling error. Rusalka. Harsh Noise with heavy theremin use.
http://www.discogs.com/artist/Rusalka
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on April 07, 2013, 09:07:13 AM
A Snake In The Garden (appears to do stuff since '07 ? I should have his phage tape releases somewhere... waiting ;) for example "Contemporary Harsh Noise vol II"
This is a prime example - you say you have the Phage Tape? The split with Poison Light? I wouldn't say this release is truly representative of the project.
Contemporary Harsh Noise contribution is on Skeleton Dust. Great material. Do yourself a favor and get the recent tapes on Sound Holes & Brise Cul. Tunnel Of Blinding Light (2010, self released) is brilliant as well.
Quote from: Nil By Mouth on April 07, 2013, 10:25:31 AM
Talking about Grain Belt and Developer, both part of the White Centipede Noise, I want to mention also Neckhold.
Mordant Karma (Japan) should also be mentioned. Someone said: the entire White Centipede Noise Catalogue.
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on April 07, 2013, 09:07:13 AM
And some of them are side projects consisting same people. And most of all, I pretty much got it all - except couple mentioned. So, question remains, is this the good harsh noise of last 5 years?
Many people have a variety of projects & are very much interrelated - friends, same label, same family, same city. I am convinced that this is not a negative tendency at all. It has been mentioned in this thread before - the midwest/no coast of the United States is a hotbed for great Harsh Noise and has been for a while. Exploring those tight-knit networks can be very rewarding.
If we go by labels and groups of people that are very closely linked, there is more. Maybe someone should create a map or a Harsh Noise family tree of some sorts - that'd be very interesting to see.
When the circle of friends and acquaintances expands, more projects get started, evolve and get a certain amount of attention. Sometimes the attention is reduced to the community that originally spawned the new project.
I believe that at that point a lot of people tend to start their "bro-job"-discussions and I am not sure if we are benefiting from those arguments. I think community is what keeps noise alive.
If we talk about "New Good Harsh Noise", we are inclined to say something is only truly good,
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on April 07, 2013, 09:07:13 AM
when it really survives the test of time and has proven to be continuously great.
Once it gets to this point, it's not "new" anymore.
It is great when you can go back 15-20 years and find great harsh noise that has stood the test of time. More recent material has - by nature - not really lived up to this standard, yet.
I'd like to add to the list:
Weak Sisters - recent compilation of WS, Other People's Children, Worth (all projects of the same person) on Heavy Psych ("Mothers & Destroyers") is great.
Hostage Pageant - very active project as of late, ties to the midwest-family
Plague Mother - from Cleveland, OH I believe - similar networks - maybe start with the tape on Amnesia Program - please note the connection to Hostage Pageant :-)
Also, since Blue Sabbath Black Cheer has been brought up, Stan Reed's Dried Up Corpse project is relentless.
Quote from: Potier on April 07, 2013, 06:41:44 PM
Mordant Karma (Japan) should also be mentioned. Someone said: the entire White Centipede Noise Catalogue.
We've been intending to trade - so still on process of getting that Mordant Karma tape.. Those WCN catalogue bands are all pretty much listed on list above.
Quote from: Potier on April 07, 2013, 06:41:44 PM
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on April 07, 2013, 09:07:13 AM
And some of them are side projects consisting same people. And most of all, I pretty much got it all - except couple mentioned. So, question remains, is this the good harsh noise of last 5 years?
Many people have a variety of projects & are very much interrelated - friends, same label, same family, same city. I am convinced that this is not a negative tendency at all. It has been mentioned in this thread before - the midwest/no coast of the United States is a hotbed for great Harsh Noise and has been for a while. Exploring those tight-knit networks can be very rewarding.
If we go by labels and groups of people that are very closely linked, there is more. Maybe someone should create a map or a Harsh Noise family tree of some sorts - that'd be very interesting to see.
When the circle of friends and acquaintances expands, more projects get started, evolve and get a certain amount of attention. Sometimes the attention is reduced to the community that originally spawned the new project.
I believe that at that point a lot of people tend to start their "bro-job"-discussions and I am not sure if we are benefiting from those arguments. I think community is what keeps noise alive.
yep, I didn't mean that it's bad. But lets say, you couldn't say that Finland has huge power electronics /noise scene, and then lists 20 "bands" in total by 2 guys. To show quantity, would require many people, not just many projects by same people.
I mean, that if we can gather list of possibly 15 names, and even these include projects involving member(s) who get listed more than once, it's quite thin result of 5 years worth of new harsh noise of entire world? I somehow feel that it can't be all here? So where's the noiseheads hiding? Or is it really now this small.
Of course, quantity should not be issue here. As mentioned, quality is the issue. But it makes situation up for wondering what happened between now and moment, when decent new harsh noise bands appeared to pop up on monthly basis? Those which are still remembered decades later. And now it's almost struggle to find out who's new around here. I think this LOUD/LOUDER/LOUDEST program is pretty neat for looking back at some releases what probably many didn't manage to grab. Patrick is of course mr. PARANOID TIME, and that project.. 2005 onwards.. Gaping Hole label certainly documented well harsh noise brutality. But especially for those with lack of funds, this podcast or his gaping hole archive where you can listed streaming audio of all these goodies, is a must:
http://gapinghole.snse.net/
But again - most of new bands that are on this label are already mentioned in this topic?
When I think of Finland... Who's making harsh noise fitting on the style described here?
*Umpio - he did his cdr releases in 2008. Not any youngster, but didn't do harsh noise before.
*Jaakko Vanhala - he did his first harsh noise release in 2012, but hardly "new guy" either. Experimental noisy stuff for many years.
*Keränen - his stuff is also very late under this name. 2008? Something like that. But Rulla did first releases 2005?
*Hippycrack - first release appears from 2008. Live show was pretty good and straight harsh noise. I don't remember if I have single release from him. Perhaps only youngster here and only real "new blood"...
Who else? Can't get more to my head. For reason or another, apart from Hippycrack, these guys don't feel so "newcomers" to me, but damn good harsh noise nevertheless. However, Keränen has done also drone CD. Umpio has been now moving to electro-acoustic and "microsounds", not just rugged metal junks. Of course the traditional noise blast may have always been minority in Finnish scene?
there is a close-knit micro community of harsh noise that has been developing over the the past few years here in los angeles -- they're all good friends, and closely connected, but are also creating what i see as solid work that deserves mention. most of it has been very interconnected and released in tiny editions locally. the main players are:
sissisters (a project which has existed for several years in different forms, done releases on joy di vivre and others, just opened the storefront venue MATA in west LA. also operates the christian pop tape label)
recommended release: brick in the arm cs (self-released)
http://soundcloud.com/stisers/sissisters-dem-passwords-la
http://vimeo.com/28247518
constrain (formerly known as droughter, a grimier progression. operates the heavy psych label and is a respected visual artist as well)
recommended release: split c-30 w/ being (HP)
http://www.heavypsych.net
wrong hole (young noise prodigy following in the tradition of impregnable, weak sisters, and others. several offshoot projects including NM and BPNM, several offshoot labels such as prima donna and presh, mostly micro-editions)
recommended release: private lives c-60 (presh)
http://vimeo.com/21797236
http://wrongholesound.bandcamp.com
Orgasm Denial from Hong Kong, I think he started less than 5 years ago. Mostly very rough harsh noise.
I second all of the projects mentioned by Borges. Great stuff that not too many people seem to be aware of. These projects are a perfect example of when Mikko describes those of having "pure essence" of noise. Also, on the LA note, Obstacle Corpse is also great energetic and dynamic harsh noise. Two of the most powerful and memorable harsh noise performances I have witnessed were by Obstacle Corpse (2009) and Wrong Hole (2011), both of which took place in Los Angeles. Lets also not forget to mention the excellent Vasculae project by Mr. Borges himself. I would almost consider it wall noise, due to how dense it is (especially when compared to older Pedestrian Deposit recordings), however J don't want to dumb it down because it is much more than your typical wall noise fare. Lots of development and progression carried by extended amounts of crushing harsh noise.
Also, I don't know if Vast Glory has been mentioned yet but if not it definitely belongs in this thread.
We vote HEINZ HOPF!
Pure and intense.
Quote from: kh on April 07, 2013, 05:58:21 PM
me and francesco tignola, from joy de vivre label, started a new project some months ago DRUG AGE, just harsh noise.. you can listen a couple of tracks here: https://soundcloud.com/secondsleep-1
Damn! I read the message, but didn't think it much further. Two days later I'm putting on tape deck some random tape from pile what appeared to be interesting... and that was DRUG AGE "alphabet" (second sleep). God damn it's good! Some of the pretty good stuff listed here has this thing I kind of like, but at the same time have problem. Close-up small objects with pretty much line-in feel in recording. That it is distorted, yes, that it's crispy and crunchy, yes, but it is so small sounding and lacks any feel of space.
This Drug Age tape has good sounds mixed in. It is very close-up, nearly directly injected to your ear, yet still occasionally reveals some kind of physical space. It is not that fast, but certainly lacks all the typical downfalls of rumbling walls. It moves, goes ahead, and has compositional element to it - while staying pretty much pure NOISE.
That soundcloud file - being free of charge, good quality - check it out if you don't have possibility to get tape!
Drug Age sample sounds great, as does their other one from the 4xCASS set. Hadn't heard of them before.
Quote from: andy vomit on August 12, 2011, 08:55:14 PM
ICHOROUS
Haha this guy banned me from a board he moderated several times. Fuck him.
I make way better HN than he does and I'm almost purely digital. Fuck analog hipster "I'm rich and spend all my money on pedals noise" I stick to drum machines, fl studio and field recording. Kid just wants to be MERZBOW and play Coachella someday, which we all will eventually.
I'm guessing you were banned for good reason?
To observe ICHOROUS set up, one can take view on video!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJZkIZ2UGc4
Not too fancy looking. Computer recording, couple of standard distortion pedals and cheap microphone... and that's it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCPvTIzG1pM
Quote from: jesusfaggotchrist on April 22, 2013, 12:27:15 AM
Quote from: andy vomit on August 12, 2011, 08:55:14 PM
ICHOROUS
Haha this guy banned me from a board he moderated several times. Fuck him.
I make way better HN than he does and I'm almost purely digital. Fuck analog hipster "I'm rich and spend all my money on pedals noise" I stick to drum machines, fl studio and field recording. Kid just wants to be MERZBOW and play Coachella someday, which we all will eventually.
Most Merzbow material these days is purely digital, so if he wanted to emulate him he wouldn't be using pedals. Agreed analogue loyalism is silly, but using analogue gear has many uses besides fetishism.
I remember some Ichorous releases from a few years ago and they were quite good japanese-style harsh noise. Is he still active?
I don't think new releases since 2010 or 2011 or so, but didn't he just do live gigs again?
Yep, I have no complaints. Material wasn't yet ultimate new classics of genre, but as a young and enthusiastic guy doing good stuff, there is always potential for more. I think I haven't even yet listened all the tapes what I got... so he could have already improved.. eh..
The Ichorous I've heard was very solid. Didn't know he was still around, though.
I saw Mordant Karma mentioned in relation to the White Centipede release, but I can't stress how good the entire Lust Vessel roster is. Mordant Karma, Tongue Knax, and Ultimastanza all being really good examples of newer harsh noise.
And someone mentioned Vast Glory also which I will second.
Yeah that stuff is amazing, Lust Vessel anyway... Haven't heard vast glory.
Quote from: horse worship on April 27, 2013, 03:37:47 AM
Yeah that stuff is amazing, Lust Vessel anyway... Haven't heard vast glory.
Vast Glory had tapes out on Lake Shark Harsh Noise and Waterpower, both of which are really high quality material. Also has a bunch of stuff out on his own tape imprint which I am in the process of procuring, most of the releases are available to listen to at the link below:
http://modernarrangements.blogspot.ca/p/catalogue_26.html
I didn't read all 6 pages of this thread, but browsed most and didn't see anyone mention Ritual Stance or Crown of Bone. I think both qualify if we are going back 4 years or so.
Ritual Stance might be to static for the rules of this thread, but he does some great stuff.
Crown of Bone makes unrelenting MONSTERS of texture walls.
*shameless self promotion alert*
A few people have dug the stuff I've done too. Check out links in sig for big shifting space walls.
Ok - I figured this was a good way to stay on top of what is going on in the world of harsh noise - bringing this thread back from the dead. My apologies if this an inappropriate way of going about it.
Here's the thing: I've been out of the loop for pretty much most of the last year. I also somehow feel that I see way too many descriptions of new material that read ambient, industrial and power electronics - for my taste at least.
Please tell me about exciting harsh noise releases from 2015 - maybe even from 2014. Any new names worth checking out? Any new ground broken? Anything worth picking up that can actually still be picked up for reasonable prices anywhere? Artists/Labels to watch at this point in time? Any revivals?
Any help is much appreciated.
I can't remember what was on this thread but, Gene Pick and Shredded Nerve. Also Scant. I think VAT and wrong hole were mentioned already. Of course I'm more informed of the American end as a American.
Quote from: tinnitustimulus on November 17, 2015, 09:51:57 AM
I think VAT and wrong hole were mentioned already. Of course I'm more informed of the American end as a American.
Wrong Hole - "Sucking Wound" is really good.
Lately I've been listening to a lot of HN, favorites currently...
Muck - "Concealed In The Ashes Of Enemies" and the live one on Fusty Cunt are the two I have and highly suggest
Orgasmic Response Unit - Straight forward and good all around US Harsh Noise with no extra gimmicks.
Mordant Karma - Get everything; off the wall, obscure Japanoise in the outline of Incapacitates but with its own unique mood.
Primorje - More brilliant field tapes/concrete tape noise that Second Sleep is great at. Laid back but still has ear-splitting high end introduced at some point through-out most of the material I have heard, loud headphones probably not a good idea (check out the Civil Music excerpt on their soundcloud to see what I mean; https://soundcloud.com/primorje ).
I'm a bit out of the loop with what's going on myself, but the Being double c15 on Wendy from last year (or was it early this year?) was pretty amazing. A bit MSNP-like in how it's cut and mixed, and that somehow feels fresh to these ears. Just perfect, varied powerful noise. Not that it explores any new grounds, but it has Something, don't know what...
And yes, Wrong Hole "Sucking wound" is a really good one.
NECKHOLD tape on White Centipede (as mentioned).
NOVASAK (he doesn't always do harsh stuff, but he builds PAs to be louder than normal, and his own pedals, mixing boards, etc. Sometimes it is wall noise, but when he does harsh noise it is captivating).
Diaphragmatic (as mentioned).
Breakdancing Ronald Reagan (when he is not doing silly shit and sampling, it is excellent harsh noise of a hi-speed variety).
Architeuthis Dux - Acropolis CDr - Excellent movement, density, and texture. Not a dull moment in over 40 minutes, if I recall correctly.
I have seen AODL at least three times, and I wouldn't call it harsh noise, but I do enjoy it thoroughly. I don't remember any of his recording being what I'd call harsh noise.
XOME is still active and always mind-bogglingly good.
Vertonen, when he does a harsh set, is always good. It's sparing on his recordings, but the "Stations" CD hits on it most, as I recall. In Chicago, it has been very common that he play first and explode with deep bass and screaming distortion for 6 minutes or less.
Thirteen Hurts must play live with at least 30 pedals, and I usually roll my eyes at that, but he knows how to use them. Not always harsh in the way that we expect / want it, but dynamics and soundscapey territory with purely pedals, eventually punctuated with brutal harsh noise. This is a guy that only really plays noise fests. He lives in a geodesic solar powered dome in the middle of nowhere, Colorado, (6 hours from civilization in any direction, according to him) and he has driven to Florida to do a noise set. I've seen him 3 times, I have 2 of his CDs, and it is highly recommended.
Mutant Ape
Ascites
I know there are some I'm missing. I should say that Skin Graft isn't limited to harsh noise, but when he does it, it's extremely good.
I have to mention Kevin Shields (the noise act). She did an amazing escalating repetitive epic harsh noise set in 2010 that blew my mind. Her recordings are unable to match that performance, but still worth getting.
I hope Pope Joanna will continue at some point, but I can mention her here as she was on a split with PCRV in 2010. Could be my favorite harsh noise artist. Very sparing discography.
I don't mind "Crackle Studies" or certain "Wall Noise", but I really like "loop studies", and would like to see more of it.
when at its harshest, Torba
I would say Maskhead is one of the hottest Harsh Noise newcomers. Great positioning between dirty Industrial and heavily distorted sounds. Two other promising acts are Finnish Rotat and Yasuhito Fujinami.
Quote from: NO PART OF IT on November 18, 2015, 12:00:05 AM
I have seen AODL at least three times, and I wouldn't call it harsh noise, but I do enjoy it thoroughly. I don't remember any of his recording being what I'd call harsh noise.
Weird, I have a few AODL things and it is just blistering, cut up heavy noise. Dunno if it is all different now though. The releases I have date at least 10 years back so dunno if it classes as new anymore but definitely something I'd recommend.
AODL is awesome harsh noise but i have tapes from almost 10 years ago so definitely not a 'new' project...
as for TORBA i only have the split tape with KRUBE - don't remember it being harsh noise but it is very good. crude & noisey sound collage, kinda schimpfluch style... i just checked discogs... seems he has a lot more releases in the past few years then i thought... he's one i will need to catch up on for sure. what are some of his harsher works?
as for NEW harsh noise i kinda draw a blank except for a group of midwest usa guys who are kickin ass and keeping the torch burning... fucking DETERGE is amazing, though not always strictly HN every release is worthwhile and live sets are so intense...you really see the cathartic aspect of noise seeing/hearing him live...
ORGASMIC RESPONSE UNIT / anything the tandy bros do gets the seal of approval.... ACTION/DISCIPLINE - anything brad griggs is involved with... A/D is a collab between him and BREAKING THE WILL... and BTW live is violent ejaculation of harsh purity! i love how stefan must have hid in the background for years perfecting his craft - now comes out of nowhere playing shows and blowing peoples fucking minds! best pure harsh noise i've heard since NECKHOLD! and NECKHOLD is THE BEST!
Quote from: collapsedhole on November 20, 2015, 12:21:07 AM
[ACTION/DISCIPLINE] live is violent ejaculation of harsh purity!
Perhaps 2016 would be a good time to revive this topic? I think harsh noise proper is still plenty but what is the best, in terms of recent acts and releases?
Obviously, Wince. I would also say Scent impressed me quite a bit.
Lots of great new harsh noise as of recent, and it's hard to recall everything, but here's a short list:
-Anything Chris Conroy-related, including Vat, Unpenis, and Slave Coordination. He also runs the excellent Everything as Dung label. He's a master of producing some of the roughest, nasty sounding "trash harsh noise". For lovers of corroded, blasting sounds.
-Kiran Arora, formerly of Los Angeles, CA, and now living in Austin, TX. I had the pleasure of sharing a few bills with him last week on a short Texas tour and it was a treat to watch him perform every night. Sometimes blown-out 4 track harsh noise and sometimes harsh guitar noise a la Solmania, but more full-force and straight ahead. His tape that came out on Presh a few years back is highly recommended if you can manage to find a copy, otherwise, stay tuned for a tape on Skeleton Dust eventually.
-Have also been enjoying the output coming out of the Team Boro Tapes camp...liked all of the recent tapes I've heard, but the VMS Elit "Destruction Derby" tape really hit the spot, as well as the various Schakalens Bror tapes released on the label. According to the label owner, the guy behind SB isn't really a harsh head by any means, which makes the ripping guitar noise on the tapes that much more endearing.
Scouring this thread I've adored the Wrong Hole stuff I heard and enjoyed a lot of Wince too.
This has tickled a thirst for really gritty, nasty harsh noise. Lots of the other recommendations are probably great if you have a few tapes or whatever to listen to but the few online sources I can find are pretty boring washes of barely moving sound...maybe like an overdriven field recording???
Keeping this thread alive for gutter, textural, saturated harsh noise suggestions.
Quote from: Duncan on April 07, 2016, 01:24:49 AMgutter
Here's good topic for such noise: http://www.special-interests.net/forum/index.php?topic=148.0
Hoping to keep this topic alive as well: http://www.special-interests.net/forum/index.php?topic=6120.0
Judging by samples I've heard, I think those two Publication Ban tapes should fit in Harsh/Raw Tape Noise thread. Should give em a proper spin soon.
Thanks, I am aware of those threads and enjoy reading them.
I suppose tape is often in play when going for those super gutter noises but I'm still keen to investigate this thread for the general gamut of new, harsh noise.
Don't think I'd heard of Constrain before checking out a sample today and that was very, very nice.
VAT, Unpenis, any of the other Everything as Dung/Chris Conroy projects (a modern master...). New Forces released "Bubble Probe" last year and it was difficult to pull out of my deck all winter.
*edit - Noticed his work was already mentioned (on this page no less)...consider my post a "seconding".
I'm joining those who praise Constrain. After being blown away by Option to Hide, I ordered The Boundary too, and it's just as good. Solid, dynamic, well-crafted harsh noise. It has enough creativity that although it's not anything radically new, it never gets boring. The sound of these tapes is great too.
Quote from: NO PART OF IT on November 18, 2015, 12:00:05 AM
Mutant Ape
Since I thought a new topic for this question was a bit over the top, I ask here in the hope that someone knows: what has happened to the Turgid Animal/Mutant Ape/etc website? It's been down for weeks, if not a month.
I thought I would bring this thread back from the dead. Nothing added in 4 years is shocking.
I have been somewhat selective in recent times with picking up new material from projects I don't really know - this is in part due to price increases in distribution etc.
Anything you'd recommend that has stood out for you in the last few years?
Still feels like some of the "older" names/people involved are starting new collaborations or projects on the side.
There are some names that are thrown around a lot and I can't say I have heard much from projects like Blind Date or Jackson Pratt or the like...this may well be my own fault...
I have enjoyed a lot of the Scathing-material I picked up and on this forum there seems to have been a bit more of a focus on the Finnish scene recently judging from the lengthy thread...
Maybe there is more to be added to this important thread from days past...
Isn't new good harsh noise covered rather well in the playlist thread? Either way... Heat Signature, Worth, Wince and Body Carve have stood out for me the last couple of years, each in their own way.
Quote from: Baglady on May 13, 2020, 06:40:32 PM
Isn't new good harsh noise covered rather well in the playlist thread? Either way... Heat Signature, Worth, Wince and Body Carve have stood out for me the last couple of years, each in their own way.
Ditto, add to that VMS Elit and Form Hunter
Lots of "contemporary" names mentioned, but a lot of those aren't really that "new", some have been active 5-10 years, even more if we talk about WORTH - going back to WEAK SISTERS and OTHER PEOPLES CHILDREN, which while not as fully realized, still were great and unique HN dating back to 2004.
If we want to keep this thread relevant and useful outside of the PLAYLIST thread, let's talk about the good NEW new... Yes BLIND DATE (have yet to listen to the new CD but have very high hopes, everything I've heard since the beginning has been hard as fuck) and JACKSON-PRATT (a bit less refined still, but the B-side of the tape on New Forces is PERFECT, and everything I'Ve heard shows promise). I'll add STAR... has a really bizarre sound and fresh take on super primitive HN.
Would be fun to hear of more straight up newcomers who come out of nowhere and are both interesting and quality.
I think hearing, knowing and naming the NEW new names is the real challenge? I guess the few who really stay up to date on the newest newcomers to noise and get their music are more qualified than me. But how many people can do that? I appreciate your suggests WCN, because I am not up to the task of staying current.
Quote from: WCN on May 14, 2020, 01:43:37 AM
Lots of "contemporary" names mentioned, but a lot of those aren't really that "new", some have been active 5-10 years, even more if we talk about WORTH - going back to WEAK SISTERS and OTHER PEOPLES CHILDREN, which while not as fully realized, still were great and unique HN dating back to 2004.
I think it is relevant to mention PRESAGE. Even though he was in OPC, he left noise around the time I started Weak Sisters. He also did a project called National Therapy which did a tape on Stammer way back when (which only this year learned was actually released)
I just consider his efforts very new, and he rips.
But to stay even more on topic- Richmond, Va has an alright thing going on right now, Xenojothsz is solid wall of sound with a lot of varied intricacy to mention one.
Pain Appendix?
did not read the whole thread...
Split with Armenia is great long form pure hn
COST
Delivers live, 1/2 of UNEXAMINE, and tape on Dead Gods is an unexpected gloomy hn
again sorry did not check the thread to see if things were mentioned
Quote from: WCN on May 14, 2020, 01:43:37 AM
I'll add STAR... has a really bizarre sound and fresh take on super primitive HN.
Keen to hear this, can you point me toward any further info?
I think he mentions this tape : https://whitecentipedenoise.bigcartel.com/product/star-last-vestige-of-malehood-cs
There is a preview here too :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9DIAI1m6ZQ
Brilliant, thanks a lot.
I've been diving in on a few of these recommendations and am enjoying the results. I definitely have not given enough time and patience to listening to new material plus lots of the aesthetics is a massive turn off from many projects, but the quality of the sounds is quite undeniable.
Yeah, trying to avoid just pointing to artists that I have worked with or plan on working with in the future, but the correlation is predictable.
I've only heard one track from COST, just recently, a longform track from an upcoming compilation and I was blown away. PRESAGE's "Feralheart" tape is a favorite of the last fee years as well.
WOLF CREEK seem to be some pretty exciting Japanese young guns, but haven't really checked them out yet.
Quote from: Duncan on May 14, 2020, 01:07:45 PM
Brilliant, thanks a lot.
I've been diving in on a few of these recommendations and am enjoying the results. I definitely have not given enough time and patience to listening to new material plus lots of the aesthetics is a massive turn off from many projects, but the quality of the sounds is quite undeniable.
Curious what "aesthetics" you're turned off by?
Seconded on Wolf Creek, they are incredible. I've only heard the recorded output but multiple people who have visited Japan have talked about their live sets being the best on a lineup full of all-time legends.
Was just looking through some tapes and will re-visit the PRIMORDIAL WOUND tape from 2018 on Oxen. Remember it being good. Anybody know if that project is still going?
I was also going to mention Primordial Wound. some of his tapes take me back to old Pedestrian Deposit in a slight way of mixing in 'pretty' sounds. I do not think he is active anymore, with some slight chances of small returns.
LASSO WENDY- dead tones, sometimes using original Wasp. highly recommended swampy minimal darkness hn.
Ironically the tape that started this entire thread is one of my deep needs at the moment, haha.
But I wanted to address Pissoir Rouge, three tapes and now a CD of pure wondrous nasty. Definitely keeping the fire burning, metaphorically speaking.
Quote from: Strangecross on May 14, 2020, 09:15:03 PM
LASSO WENDY- dead tones, sometimes using original Wasp. highly recommended swampy minimal darkness hn.
Came across the name a few times but never heard anything. Interesting lead. Have you heard anything else maybe from the Freedom Club label that seems related? Seems to be a connection to the individual that did HORRIBLE MESS a few years back which was an interesting project...apparently recently in DOGS IN THE MOONLIGHT with another person...
Worth looking into? (man, I love discogs :-) )
Lasso Wendy is excellent. I think Fife Roping might be the best, but you can't go wrong. Dogs In The Moonlight is him and another great chap. Hope the project still lives. Really strange sound. The second tape suffers from poor dubbing, but the first and self-titled cassette almost made me bite my own tongue off.
Lasso Wendy is excellent. Liam's a good guy. Saw him as Lindow Man when he lived here in Montreal for a few months (there is a Lindow Man / Taskmaster split tape limited to 4 copies as a result of that as well). Been trying to get a Wendy tape out of him for a while but I think his priorities are elsewhere at the moment. Hope he returns to the fold before too long!
I'll toss in Kiran Arora. I haven't heard everything and I guess it's a 7 year old project at this point, but his track on the recent "The Silent Continuity of All Existence With Which the Victim is Now One" CD-R on Prose Nagge was one of my favourites.
Also, Kyle Flanagan.
Quote from: absurdexposition on May 15, 2020, 03:26:48 AMAlso, Kyle Flanagan.
Glad he got a mention, Kyle never seems to disappoint.
I'd also like to mention Sects from Providence, he hardly has any recordings with the most notable one being a tape for Oxen, but his live performances are always a treat. For those in this thread who saw him at Summer Scum last year, you know what I mean.
Quote from: absurdexposition on May 15, 2020, 03:26:48 AM
I'll toss in Kiran Arora. I haven't heard everything and I guess it's a 7 year old project at this point, but his track on the recent "The Silent Continuity of All Existence With Which the Victim is Now One" CD-R on Prose Nagge was one of my favourites.
Just to build on this and even though he isn't "new", the little I've heard from the artist is clearly a notch above the rest. I scored a copy of "Glare" from Skeleton Dust recently and it's a home run. Also the latest "Fever Swamp" on New Forces was equally as good. Flying below the radar, and I can't pinpoint in words why it's better than others, just one of those you need to hear it to believe it artists. If I had to compare, in some sort of similar vein to Worth or Hostage Pageant in style and execution.
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Quote from: absurdexposition on May 15, 2020, 03:26:48 AM
I'll toss in Kiran Arora. I haven't heard everything and I guess it's a 7 year old project at this point, but his track on the recent "The Silent Continuity of All Existence With Which the Victim is Now One" CD-R on Prose Nagge was one of my favourites.
Just to build on this and even though he isn't "new", the little I've heard from the artist is clearly a notch above the rest. I scored a copy of "Glare" from Skeleton Dust recently and it's a home run. Also the latest "Fever Swamp" on New Forces was equally as good. Flying below the radar, and I can't pinpoint in words why it's better than others, just one of those you need to hear it to believe it artists. If I had to compare, in some sort of similar vein to Worth or Hostage Pageant in style and execution.
Kiran Arora material I have heard is definitely great. Unique and radical approach in a sense. The
Pet Sounds tape he did with Kenny from Scathing is also wicked - damn...that was already about 3 years ago now.
Last few days I have been hitting the No Rent bandcamp - the "Delaware" tape by
Jacob Winans is a great listen. Great mixture of textures, short field recording interludes, weird stereo effect pulse sounds. Noticed today also that he has a forthcoming release on Flag Day.
Quote from: Potier on May 21, 2020, 11:52:16 PM
Last few days I have been hitting the No Rent bandcamp - the "Delaware" tape by Jacob Winans is a great listen. Great mixture of textures, short field recording interludes, weird stereo effect pulse sounds. Noticed today also that he has a forthcoming release on Flag Day.
Just sampled the latter this morning and it certainly lives up the ah rather familiar-sounding label blurb courtesy Snake In the Garden chap, re-
Textural obliteration and amplified apathy, ripping through the frequency spectrum from ear to ear.
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Quote from: Baglady on May 13, 2020, 06:40:32 PM
Isn't new good harsh noise covered rather well in the playlist thread? Either way... Heat Signature, Worth, Wince and Body Carve have stood out for me the last couple of years, each in their own way.
146 pages since May 2016. Click back to numero 382 and get reading!
While I'm here, how bout Izumi Kawasaki?
https://gerpfastkolektif.bandcamp.com/album/moromi
Not sure if this is pushing any envelopes but would certainly seem to be pushing all the right buttons, tickling the correct boxes, etc. Precise pointy-headed incisions punching through scrunch-mouthed squealies 'n spiced with considered sprinklings of metal-on-metal thwack. Seems somewhat schooled in the Endo-isms, which might work for an artist that has performed (in a er painting capacity) with Endo.
Quote from: Bloated Slutbag on May 23, 2020, 11:42:57 AM
Seems somewhat schooled in the Endo-isms, which might work for an artist that has performed (in a er painting capacity) with Endo.
I feel like most of current Japanoise is influenced/has worked with Endo. You could call it Endocore.
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Quote from: Potier on May 21, 2020, 11:52:16 PM
Jacob Winans is a great listen. Great mixture of textures, short field recording interludes, weird stereo effect pulse sounds. Noticed today also that he has a forthcoming release on Flag Day.
Just sampled the latter this morning and it certainly lives up the ah rather familiar-sounding label blurb courtesy Snake In the Garden chap, re- Textural obliteration and amplified apathy, ripping through the frequency spectrum from ear to ear.
And just to be clear here, this is not just a good thing, but possibly
the thing. (I'm riffiing here off an ongoing line I rant on about from time to time, most recently in the Levels of chaos thread... and like clockwork duly delete the next morning, but uh...)
Textural obliteration, or whatever you want to call it, is the thing that consistently elevates the cut-up shit. Well it elevates all kinds of shit, but as far as the hard-panners I think it can be critical. This goes back to SICKNESS, before whom cut-ups did not quite convince. People would go on and on about Masonna and I would not disagree. I would like the Maso, even love the Maso, but come the end of, say,
Mademoiselle Anne Sanglante the 'holes would demand their due and proper purification in the form of say,
Quietus. And then. SICKNESS brought frequency rippping textures so convincing that it frankly would hardly matter if the shit were cut-up or not. It just fucking rrrrrrrrrrrrrrriiiiiippppppppped. SICKNESS is actually the one that helped me appreciate all manner of cut-up, texturally obliterating or not, and helped ensure for me at least that Masonna's place in the celestial spheres is secure.
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Quote from: Bloated Slutbag on May 23, 2020, 11:42:57 AM
Seems somewhat schooled in the Endo-isms, which might work for an artist that has performed (in a er painting capacity) with Endo.
I feel like most of current Japanoise is influenced/has worked with Endo. You could call it Endocore.
Admittedly the same could probably be said for just about any hard-panner on the planet. It would be hard not to be influenced in one way or another.
I may have been joking there with the aside about painting performances, but as far as the JP contingent there might actually be a few things which give Kawasaki an Endocore edge over the Spore Spawns, scums, Yasuhito Fujinamis and even the Kazuma Kubotas-
- the somewhat spare, measured metals whanging on metal
- the more focused or condensed sound palate
- the pointy-headed spiky-ness of the piercing screech
Not to say any of this is better, just more Endo-like (to this admittedly fucked ear). Almost like what might be ear-visioned if you combined the classic hard-panned Endo with the monophonic improvisations of recent vintage.
That makes a lot of sense. I also think a lot of those projects have their own flavors, especially ones like Linekraft and Wolf Creek, even if the Endo influence is still there.
Many thanks for introducing Wolf Creek and Izumi Kawasaki in this thread, didn't know about them before! Great to see and hear new (and unknown to me) Japanese Noise.
New and not so new:
Blind Date
Jackson-Pratt
Kiran Arora
Cost
Star
Kyle Flanagan
Imminent Death
Kiran Arora - Fever Swamp
Adriano Vincenti - Marcire
Aggressive Fucking - Ripped Fishnets and Smudged Eyeliner
Vril Jager - Celestial Bliss
Linekraft - Subhuman Principle