Unlike some other countries (Finland, Sweden, Germany, UK, Japan etc) the Netherlands doesn't seem to have a documented "scene" when it comes to Power Electronics, Noise, Death Industrial and other related genre's, besides Kristus Kut, Stirner, Onkunde & myself (Staalkracht) I can't really think of any other projects.
Does any of you know more projects from the Netherlands?
Odal is from the Netherlands, right?
What about Vene and his other projects?
Also, Kapotte Muziek and DMDN. But maybe you were looking for active projects?
Holland has tons of stuff of noise/noisy stuff and long history too. I think some of the labels mentioned below have done extensive job for noise of all sorts. Maybe that some of it happened long ago - like close to 30 years ago - makes these works distant for younger folks?
KORM PLASTICS label since mid 80's put out tons of stuff of also PE. Also internationaö a'la Death Pact International tape '86, Nails Ov Christ,.. etc
V2-Archief was another good label from mid 80's to forward. Nowadays different people run this and it has transformed into something else. Multimedia info center or whatever? Early days include releases of Merzbow, Eric Lunde, Laibach, Test Dept, Vivenza, Chop-Shop, and countless more.
Staalplaat exists since 2004 in Germany, but started and operated their most famous era in Netherlands. Since 80's put out great stuff. On their own label and also re-issues. NON, Korpses Katatonik, Master/Slave Relationship, Muslimgauze, Autopsia, Blackhouse, Zoviet-France, Etat Donnes, Nocturnal Emissions, Controlled Bleeding, Le Syndicat, John Duncan, etc etc etc..
could mention more labels too, but if talking of artists, lets say worth to check out instantly would be:
DMDN
Kapotte Muziek
THU-20 (especially old)
Beequeen
ODAL
..more.
From newer ones, I guess obviously would be TERG and BITTER, right? Fuckn'Bastrds is sometimes noise.
I'm sure there exists Dutch noise comp. For examples Dutch Fidelity 7" I have still in stock at FA. It's 7" from 2002. Even if it includes also electronic music ("techno") it is most of all abstract noise/electronic with 14 projects doing short assaults.
DMDN and Kapotte Muziek are still active. New DMDN 7" where he remixed KM that just came out in January is very good. I have been told he is also working with his new noise release!
The new industrial label Kurzwellen (http://kurzwellen.blogspot.com) might be Dutch? The blog has a .nl contact address, though the Soundcloud unexpectedly claims to be based in Paraguay. I have no idea where the associated acts Precision Surgery and Necrosis are based, as I'm unable to find any information on either of them.
Thanks for the suggestions, I forgot about Odal and Kapotte Muziek.. It's hard to find any information about Dutch projects and labels. There were some one off live projects before but most of those dissapeared. I'll check out the labels and projects which you guys suggested.
lately there were a few dutch noise compilations out, maybe that might give some links to more 'newer' dutch noise artists:
http://www.discogs.com/Various-Nedernoise/release/2510157
http://www.discogs.com/Various-Dutch-Darkness-Selected-Works-From-The-Dark-Disorderly/release/2610156
also worth to mention is the radio station Patapoe, where Odal and God's Wil have their weekly radio shows
In Tilburg there used to be a sort of small 'scene' too a few years back
Does anyone know if the label Kwark still exists? They had good shows in Eindhoven
Thanks Bart, I'll try to get a copy of both of the compilations.. The "south" of the Netherlands seems to be where most Dutch noise artists hang around.
I do believe the law rah collective is from the Netherlands. not sure how you feel about noisey drone, but I love his stuff.
http://darkambient.net/
Zyrthax
Vulvax
Dr. Bibber (aka Odal)
Smur
Butplug
Medmud
Membus
Dementia
Gino Santi
Heras
Skinmask
Quote from: Bereft on April 09, 2012, 11:14:19 PM
I do believe the law rah collective is from the Netherlands. not sure how you feel about noisey drone, but I love his stuff.
http://darkambient.net/
You're right they are from the Netherlands, great stuff!
Thanks again for all the suggestions.
Gnaw Their Tongues / Aderlating
Deadpulse 731(?)
I'm very fond of the early 80's one-man project Het Zweet, who were kind of the missing link between :zoviet*france: and Z'ev. Several tapes are available for download over at Simon Crab's blog, http://crab.wordpress.com/category/het-zweet/
Beequeen is another huge favorite. Search the forum for a thread dedicated to Frans & Freek.
I used to listen to quite a lot of Dutch postpunk back in the day, groups such as Minny Pops, The Ex, Kiem, and Nasmak. Some of it was pretty experimental, but probably too lame for diehard noiseheads.
Quote from: post-morten on April 11, 2012, 12:45:30 AM
I'm very fond of the early 80's one-man project Het Zweet, who were kind of the missing link between :zoviet*france: and Z'ev. Several tapes are available for download over at Simon Crab's blog, http://crab.wordpress.com/category/het-zweet/
i read the Militia-guy was going to release a live-recording on LP ......but when? lol
Quote from: Staalkracht on April 09, 2012, 06:47:23 AM
Unlike some other countries (Finland, Sweden, Germany, UK, Japan etc) the Netherlands doesn't seem to have a documented "scene" when it comes to Power Electronics, Noise, Death Industrial and other related genre's, besides Kristus Kut, Stirner, Onkunde & myself (Staalkracht) I can't really think of any other projects.
Does any of you know more projects from the Netherlands?
I guess you mean current scene because this seems so weird to me. I went on pilgrimes to the Staalplaat store in Amsterdam in the way back land. Seeing the Women of the SS box in the window you know you where in the right place (it was only their for a couple of days before they got the window smashed) and going down the stairs into the basement of the leftist bookstore you could feel a shift in the air. The cassettes where all over the metal walls attached with magnets and spotting more s/m imagery than my teenage mind could handle. It was heaven.
I have some old recordings with Zombie under Stress that was pretty good (before they turned EBM) but my favourite Dutch recordings are two compilations Καθαροσ and Exhaustion released by the Katharos Foundation http://www.discogs.com/label/Katharos+Foundation .
Are meldy Peaches from Netherlands?
Thought so
THE MELDY PEACHES are from Tilburg connected to VATICAN ANALOG collective with FRANZ FJÖDOR (now residing in Berlin) and Steffan de Turck a.k.a. STAPLERFAHRER as their most talented members. Worth to mention here is also the doomy harshnoise project THE JIM MORRISONS, who were active only for 2 years around 2007/08, but who have done some impressive performances all over The Netherlands during that time.
THE JIM MORRISONS
http://youtu.be/BCdhIcVlOjs
http://youtu.be/tnLY_fqL-H8
VATICAN ANALOG
http://www.vaticananalog.com/
Apophallation
Quote from: fin de siècle on April 12, 2012, 10:36:56 AM
THE MELDY PEACHES are from Tilburg connected to VATICAN ANALOG collective
MELDY PEACHES are from Tilburg / Nijmegen. But they are not part of Vatican Analog anymore since 2010, just as a few others.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4H6xzNMtmGA
The most important figure in Vatican Analog was VINCENT KOREMAN who founded it and did most of the work organising shows etc.. in the beginning. But Vincent did a step back in 2009 to focuss on other things like the Incubate Festival. Vatican Analog is leading a rather sleeping existence...
Thanks all, it seems I still have a lot to check out.. somehow I never really got into Dutch projects, It's about time to do so.
I met member of THU-20 in Holland yesterday and he mentioned Monochrome (rus) is working on release of oldest of their works. I'm very curious to hear that!
In addition to some of the projects mentioned there's definitely a lot more going on, though for a large part at no particular 'scene' level (or, if speaking for myself at least, at any professional level, some exceptions of course). In addition to my own projects (horsing, Panic, Immaculate Affection) there's quite a few projects by friends such as Jelle, who does Ikodora '65, Chantal + runs Muzikaal Kabaal; Dennis, who currently does TRAITORS (recent tape on Kafkex) and also has done plenty other things including Sendot Sklin, Granuloma Inguinale; then there's a lot of projects from mates like IMG_9401/Schraepsol, Fyarl/Rabbit Rape, nènè and Solak.
Other things that spring to mind are the great Svartvit (+ UN/Unsolved Deaths), Doornen/Neurotic Envelope, Machinefabriek (mostly drone and ambient, but occasional noisy ventures), Orphax, Doodshoofd, De Hondenkoekjesfabriek, Fever Spoor, and quite a lot more... let me do some thinking.
Quote from: P A N I C on April 22, 2012, 02:33:45 PM
though for a large part at no particular 'scene' level
Isn't this common perception? Where people that are involved, don't see the scene - but it exists in minds of outside observer? Many people over here, seem like they consider themselves slightly "outsiders" or not part of the "hardcore of the scene", but when this is pretty much everybody's perception, I think as result they become members in a way.
Older Dutch stuff I only became fully conscious after seeing him mentioned in Pain Jerk's top-10 essentials in past issue of SI magazine is Dick Raaijmakers. Bought his multiple CD box set compiling stuff from 50's to onwards. Wrote something about it in some topic of forum.. Electro-acoustic or musique concrete? If you know nothing, maybe the 3rd link decent to start with. 1961 recordings not so far from noise or dark ambient.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udoD2m_KTdw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ao5bt2zwios
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPd5Cx9Z5Zk
I found lot's of great stuff because of you guys and there's still a lot more for me to listen.
this is my project (zyrtax), taken from the last release:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xonNcM9G09g
Quote from: P-K on April 11, 2012, 11:30:21 AM
Quote from: post-morten on April 11, 2012, 12:45:30 AM
I'm very fond of the early 80's one-man project Het Zweet, who were kind of the missing link between :zoviet*france: and Z'ev. Several tapes are available for download over at Simon Crab's blog, http://crab.wordpress.com/category/het-zweet/
i read the Militia-guy was going to release a live-recording on LP ......but when? lol
here we go :
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SubRec 01: the first official release on Subterra Recordings label:
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HET ZWEET: Tribal Running – live at Utopia in Elsloo, Holland 1988
This treasure box contains previously unrecorded and unreleased songs by Marien Van Oers
Tribal at its best!!
recorded live by Frank Gorissen and remastered at the Subterra recording Studio
packed in a "tribal" eco fold out cover with insert with piece of wood to close the cover
A must have for the die-hard fans of pure industrial and tribal music from the '80-s
price: 17 euro (//http://SubRec%2001:%20the%20first%20official%20release%20on%20Subterra%20Recordings%20label:%3Cbr%20/%3E%3Cbr%20/%3E.%3Cbr%20/%3E%3Cbr%20/%3EHET%20ZWEET:%20Tribal%20Running%20%E2%80%93%20live%20at%20Utopia%20in%20Elsloo,%20Holland%201988%3Cbr%20/%3E%3Cbr%20/%3EThis%20treasure%20box%20contains%20previously%20unrecorded%20and%20unreleased%20songs%20by%20Marien%20Van%20Oers%3Cbr%20/%3E%3Cbr%20/%3ETribal%20at%20its%20best!!%3Cbr%20/%3E%3Cbr%20/%3Erecorded%20live%20by%20Frank%20Gorissen%20and%20remastered%20at%20the%20Subterra%20recording%20Studio%3Cbr%20/%3E%3Cbr%20/%3Epacked%20in%20a%20%22tribal%22%20eco%20fold%20out%20cover%20with%20insert%20with%20piece%20of%20wood%20to%20close%20the%20cover%3Cbr%20/%3E%3Cbr%20/%3EA%20must%20have%20for%20the%20die-hard%20fans%20of%20pure%20industrial%20and%20tribal%20music%20from%20the%20'80-s%3Cbr%20/%3E%3Cbr%20/%3Eprice:%2017%20euro)