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GENERAL SOUND DISCUSSION => GENERAL SOUND DISCUSSION => Topic started by: jesusfaggotchrist on February 13, 2013, 05:21:00 PM

Title: Skullflower
Post by: jesusfaggotchrist on February 13, 2013, 05:21:00 PM
I've noticed their Crucial Blast releases have little to no drumming, besides IIIrd Gatekeeper, which are some easily obtainable releases by them that actual feature percussion along with the drones?
Title: Re: Skullflower
Post by: HongKongGoolagong on February 13, 2013, 05:50:35 PM
There has occasionally been some drumming in Skullflower of recent years but it tends to be buried in the mix when it's there. A kind of 'metal' incarnation with blastbeat drumming did some shows last year but I don't think there are any recordings out of that stuff yet.

From the 90s, the Carved Into Roses/Infinityland stuff on VHF (recently repackaged) has drums and drones and is great music.

Their earliest albums Form Destroyer/Xaman were extremely powerful 'rock' type material and a lavish reissue is planned for these and the singles/EPs and outtakes. The label involved has asked for no announcements yet but I do know it's happening.
Title: Re: Skullflower
Post by: Jordan on February 13, 2013, 06:00:54 PM
Can't think of any albums that fit the original posters specifications, besides maybe that Noiseville lp from 2009 or so, which features drumming on one side I think, but as mentioned, it's quite buried in the mix, only listened to it a couple of times when it came out though. Then there is that White Medal split, but I may me way off there, I believe I only listened once.

Excited for those reissues though.

Skullflower is a longtime favorite of mine, and I really love them in nearly every incarnation, though some Matthew Bower solo Skullflower albums aren't that good, I still love most of his output under his various monikers.

COME TO THINK OF IT: there is that song, I think it's on the Evel Knievel 7", and I think it's called Diamond Bullet. I'm away from my records/stereo for the night, so I could be way off. That song is the one with the synth drone by former Pure member Alex Binnie, so I'm pretty sure that it is the one, but if it's not, maybe it's something on Ponyland then?
Title: Re: Skullflower
Post by: HongKongGoolagong on February 15, 2013, 01:01:06 AM
Someone on rateyourmusic has written a not yet complete but trustworthy list of the music of Skullflower which is an excellent guide to the very confusing catalogue: http://rateyourmusic.com/list/nightwrath/the_power_of_skullflower/

I'm one of the few people who has heard that Sorties cassette he mentions, in fact I turned on Matthew's walkman to help record some of it. Do I get to put 'Broken Flag recording engineer' on my noise CV?

Diamond Bullet is a wild fifteen-minute rhythmic track with Apocalypse Now sample on the RRR 'Obsidian' album, also in short edited version on Evel Knievel 7". Last Shot At Heaven is also pretty rhythmic but hard to find nowadays I would imagine. Likewise the gorgeous Transformer, my very favourite Skullflower album ever, although with Grateful Dead, Jefferson Airplane and Syd Barrett covers it's probably not for strict harsh noise fans.
Title: Re: Skullflower
Post by: Jordan on February 15, 2013, 09:51:26 AM
Quote from: HongKongGoolagong on February 15, 2013, 01:01:06 AM

Diamond Bullet is a wild fifteen-minute rhythmic track with Apocalypse Now sample on the RRR 'Obsidian' album, also in short edited version on Evel Knievel 7".

I didn't remember that song being on Obsidian Shaking Codex so I had to pull it out, lots of longer songs I guess. I guess the CD doesn't mention Alex Binnie, but the 7" does.

And not really like Skullflower drone stuff, but has a drone part throughout.

I always mix up Evel Knievel and Ponyland 7"'s, don't know why. I really like and have listened to them a lot too.
Title: Re: Skullflower
Post by: HongKongGoolagong on June 18, 2013, 03:34:31 PM
Check http://www.dirter.co.uk/ soon for availability of:

SKULLFLOWER - KINO I:
BIRTHDEATH
SX031/DPROMCD95

Anaphora*
Like a Disease*
Slaves I*
Shit Strasse*
Marilyn Burns*
Birthdeath
Grub Song
Timebomb
Blood Harvest
Language + Trance*

*previously unreleased


SKULLFLOWER - KINO II:
FORM DESTROYER
SX032/DPROMCD96

Serve No Master*
Serve No Purpose*
Eat the Stars
Black Ass Bone
Elephant's Graveyard
Big Muff
Thirsty Animal
Woodland Death March
Solar Anus
Procession of Eternity

*previously unreleased


SKULLFLOWER - KINO III:
XAMAN
SX033/DPROMCD97

Slaves
Sunset
Xaman
What Did You Expect?
The Shit Hits the Fan
Barbed Wire Animal
Wave

SKULLFLOWER - KINO IV: 
BLACK SUN RISING
SX034/DPROMCD99

Night Tripper*
Kasso's Blues*
Rift
Avalanche
Slaves
Hoof**
Black Lizard*
I Live in the Bottomless Pit
Bo Diddley's Shitpump
Against Everything***
March of the Lemmings*
Thank You and Good Night*
The Punk Rock Song*

* previously unreleased
** previously titled "Satan" My Black Ass, Steve Albini = Jim Steinman
*** previously titled A Guide To Canine Foreskin Retraction

Also a mail-order only set limited to 250 of all four plus a bonus one-sided 12" of Skullflower's first ever concert recorded on October 7th, 1987 (Bower/Dennison/Jaworzyn/Mundy) plus stamped and hand-numbered package of six reproduction flyers and handbills.
Title: Re: Skullflower
Post by: dubduboverlord on June 18, 2013, 07:44:46 PM
Well. This is good news.
Title: Re: Skullflower
Post by: Steve on June 19, 2013, 05:05:33 PM
Words like "Dead", "Horse" and "Flogging" spring to my mind.
Title: Re: Skullflower
Post by: dubduboverlord on June 19, 2013, 11:10:59 PM
Quote from: Steve on June 19, 2013, 05:05:33 PM
Words like "Dead", "Horse" and "Flogging" spring to my mind.

Why? Are those 7" tracks that didn't make the set or something?
Title: Re: Skullflower
Post by: Steve on June 21, 2013, 05:46:19 PM
As in releasing old material (yet again) with the added tease of a few as yet to be heard tracks that probably didn't make it to the ears of the general public in the first place because they were below standard.(That's just a guess ... but still, why not put the unreleased stuff on one CD or LP and sell it at a reasonable price? 
Title: Re: Skullflower
Post by: HongKongGoolagong on June 21, 2013, 07:47:20 PM
They're pretty great records which have been out of print and sought after for around fifteen years and most of the digital copies are now unplayable. The bonus 12" and flyer hand-stamped special edition bullshit is a money grab of course. Maybe there'll be an ultra-deluxe box with used syringe and 'fuck everything, Cthulhu f'taghn arse magic' written in the artists' blood for £100.

I have some tapes of unreleased Skullflower of the era (including a completely different mix/version of Xaman), two C90s somewhere in a box in the garage, I remember it all being good stuff and presume these bonus tracks are from that.

Skullflower back when it was still a real kind of ensemble although an increasingly loose one did one of the very best shows I've ever seen by anyone, Leeds summer 1995 as a five-piece with Richard Youngs on guitar. Unforgettable wonder and half the people present seemed to get brainwashed into making their own not-great attempts at capturing that sound which led to the dreadful faux-spiritual drone music scene in the UK in the late 90s/early 00s.
Title: Re: Skullflower
Post by: Steve on June 21, 2013, 08:13:54 PM
Aye, think their first LP/12" - Form Destroyer - is a killer record. Essential, and Third Gatekeeper has its' moments but the box set is pretty ...erm... like i mentioned earlier in a previous post. How long before the live gigs are ... performing Form Destroyer live type affairs? I'm just an old cynic. Simon ... I apologise.
Title: Re: Skullflower
Post by: dubduboverlord on June 21, 2013, 09:05:13 PM
I couldn't give a shit about the boxset - I'm just happy to replace my long-gone copies of Form Destroyer and Xaman. Any extras/unreleased tracks are welcome, but not a draw for me. I can't be too cavalier about it - getting hold of those albums where I live was a chore when they were originally released, and I've regretted selling them for years. Anyway, now I'm off to go get "fuck everything, Cthulhu f'taghn arse magic" tattooed on my face.
Title: Re: Skullflower
Post by: Haare on June 24, 2013, 04:38:50 PM
Would like to get this for Birthdeath & the bonus tracks but the price is off-putting.
Title: Re: Skullflower
Post by: HongKongGoolagong on June 25, 2013, 03:11:40 PM
Got a copy of Birthdeath. Nice packaging with sleevenotes by Jaworzyn, plenty of artwork by Bower. The earliest things on there from rehearsal room tapes are completely new to me - very obvious Butthole Surfers influence, some audible lyrics which may inspire mirth ("fuck this world"), one track is a semi-cover of PiL 'Banging the Door'. Later outtakes are the unreleased studio material I had tapes of - very good. The masters for the EP itself are lost, so side one is from the same cassette mix as Ruins and side two is from a needledrop. I'm kind of wishing I'd gone for the full set even if it's extortionate and I already had most of it - this is a very high quality release.
Title: Re: Skullflower
Post by: HongKongGoolagong on July 03, 2015, 02:30:51 AM
Listening to Draconis (Cold Spring 2014 2xCD) again and it really is the very best thing with the name Skullflower on for a long time - an almost perfect fusion of the atonal post-2005 BM sounds with prettier melodies reminiscent of the mid-90s vibe, and dressed up in some of the nuttiest most dramatic conceptual mysticism yet: time travel, Egypt transposed over Yorkshire, saucy titles talking about 'Nightblooms'.

A record that would appeal to many different listeners from all sorts of backgrounds, Cold Spring's great packaging and Skullflower got this one exactly right.
Title: Re: Skullflower
Post by: MMMM on March 04, 2017, 05:00:08 PM
Two new albums. Any impressions yet?
Title: Re: Skullflower
Post by: david lloyd jones on March 04, 2017, 05:20:45 PM
Quote from: MMMM on March 04, 2017, 05:00:08 PM
Two new albums. Any impressions yet?
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no.
but whatever your expectations, they will go and go and go ad nauseam...]
Title: Re: Skullflower
Post by: Duncan on March 04, 2017, 06:37:16 PM
Bower's been knocking digital only (I think) releases out steadily for months on bandcamp.  Not listened to much but it's worth a visit for the shitty artwork and writing that accompanies it.

https://skullflower.bandcamp.com
Title: Re: Skullflower
Post by: david lloyd jones on March 04, 2017, 07:23:14 PM
Quote from: Duncan on March 04, 2017, 06:37:16 PM
Bower's been knocking digital only (I think) releases out steadily for months on bandcamp.  Not listened to much but it's worth a visit for the shitty artwork and writing that accompanies it.

https://skullflower.bandcamp.com

does this mean shifty everything or just non sounds?
not listened to sf in a dogs age.
get the idea that releases are cut from a never ending source.
don't like it now? wait a while and maybe you will.
Title: Re: Skullflower
Post by: HongKongGoolagong on March 05, 2017, 06:46:58 PM
Quote from: Duncan on March 04, 2017, 06:37:16 PM
Not listened to much but it's worth a visit for the shitty artwork and writing that accompanies it.

I like the writing a lot, it's funny, confusing, obnoxious, provocative, poetic and pretentious all at once and leaves me wanting more. He has a book due out this year.
Title: Re: Skullflower
Post by: Duncan on March 05, 2017, 06:58:26 PM
I prefer the photos of his cat
Title: Re: Skullflower
Post by: bitewerksMTB on March 05, 2017, 10:23:41 PM
I think I sold off everything I had from Skullflower but I do still own two of the Shock Xpress books & a few issues of the magazine. Stefan always seemed like an interesting character...

http://www.tinymixtapes.com/features/stefan-jaworzyn
Title: Re: Skullflower
Post by: david lloyd jones on March 09, 2017, 08:19:33 PM
Quote from: theotherjohn on March 05, 2017, 11:32:04 PM
Funnily enough, I was looking through my copy of the Headpress book Xerox Ferox recently and in the Jaworzyn interview/Shock Xpress section on pg. 511, there's a scan of a Xpress Mail page that features a letter from a Mr David Lloyd Jones...

yeah, the same.
also was in turnip flag by mr goolagong and, in my hippy period, hairy hifi.
the shock letter was just extra padding to a subscription thing.
anyway, this is skullflower's thread...
clearly in the most recent few thousand releases mr bower is skull.
mr jaworzyn there at the beginning or so-see the VODbroken flag set booklet for info there.
Title: Re: Skullflower
Post by: eraciator on May 23, 2017, 11:45:17 PM
https://www.normanrecords.com/label/7620

Kino CDs for just over a fiver each.
Title: Re: Skullflower
Post by: Decrepitude on May 24, 2017, 11:04:34 AM
Quote from: MMMM on March 04, 2017, 05:00:08 PM
Two new albums. Any impressions yet?
I Bought The Spirals Of Great Harm CD a while back and have been playing it constantly. Brilliant, imaginative sound design and it seems that on every listen you find something new from the murk. Listening to both of the CD's in one sitting is a bit of a chore but there's not much filler per se and I've just listened them one at a time. I haven't really been on a Skullflower kick in a long while but this got me interested in their other newer stuff too.
Title: Re: Skullflower
Post by: Kayandah on March 06, 2018, 05:27:00 PM
Does anyone know if the Form Destroyer LP was ever bootlegged? I finally got round to putting my collection on discogs and in theory the LP i brought a couple years back in Japan is an original, except it seems in remarkably good condition for something nearly thirty years old and i paid a fraction of what it should be worth, hence my suspicion it is a bootleg