In Russia there has been made some absolutely wonderful art in the fields of cinema, literature, visual arts... But what is your experience of the Russian electronic/experimental/avantgarde music?
For me the most important is of course Eduard Artemyev. Maybe he is also the most well know in general. I really haven't heard that much of noise or power electronics, but it seems there is a lot of ambient done in Russia - especially of the 'ritual' variety. They seem to have a peculiar Russian sound of their own - always strangely melancholic, of a definitely Slavic quality. I've mostly seen and heard some limited CDRs, with info sometimes typed in Cyrillic, which naturally might have something to do with their relatively low publicity in other countries.
I've liked some of the work that I've heard from such projects as for example Bardoseneticcube, Noises of Russia, Hladna, Ogni Videniy, ZHA, Staruha Mha... There is also the ritual project Phurpa which might not have that much in common with 'experimental' but might be of interest to some people here still. There are more, but mostly it's just uncharted area for me. I'd really like to know more about the music done there. I am especially interested of the more 'dry' experimenters like Artemyev - these pioneer guys who weren't working with VST plugins...if they exist.
As a reminder, here's the railroad sequence from the movie 'Stalker' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rk1PxpZ-hfE)
Linija Mass, I haven't listened to it in a long time. But if I remeber correctly, it had slightly avant-gardistic approach to industrial noise.
If it's okay to recommend music from ex-USSR countries, I would recommend BUDRŪS from Lithuania. They would definately fit the "experimental/avant-garde electronics" category.
Not new but still great Russian industrial band was Popular Mechanics. I have one LP called Insect Culture released by Ark Records. http://www.discogs.com/artist/Популярная+Механика
Sergey wanted to have the biggest most noise orchestra he could get and combined classic trained musicians with artist banging on scrap metal.
Don't get offended by any Westbam reference. Sergey Africa (the second Sergey in the band) who was playing junk later played with Westbam but that is totally different story.
For Russian electronic you might want to try Artemiy Artemiev's label Electro Shock: http://www.electroshock.ru (http://www.electroshock.ru)
I discovered Zga randomly years ago and i still like it a lot .. i think my favourite is the "Riga" LP , maybe because it's the first material i got..
I think there must have been topics about it somewhere... not sure if it was troniks.
My appreciation with Russian material goes more into nature of "physically" crafted industrial works. Experimental - perhaps, but perhaps more of low-tech decay of industrial sound.
Linija Mass, Veprisuicida, Organomehanizm, Reductio Ad Absurdum, S36NZ-OKH, YAO 91404 D, Stahlnoy Pakt (perhaps more the 10"s than CD), and so on... Many of these are noisy, but not exactly noise. Their approach seems often to be minimal equipment for very honest and primitive experimental industrial. Some bands can be crap on one release, brilliant on the next.
V/A Holy Mother Russia LP is also very nice comp. on Steinklang. Includes few of the above mentioned, but also Reutoff, Lunar Abyss Quartet, Lucisferrato, Sal Solaris, Bardoseneticcube.
Lucisferrato is pretty unique also. CD's european labels are easy to get. If I'm not mistaken, earlier material slightly darker than the later works of strange organic delay/reverb drenched flow of acoustic & vocal sounds.
Only recently been listening to stuff coming out of Russia and former Russian States courtesy of Terror Magazine. Budrus is superb, real dark cinematic stuff. Have a Pogrom cassette that is slightly disappointing. Standard PE, whereas their contribution to the Oorchah/Pogrom split cassette is excellent - organic industrial, and really (to these ears) fresh. I will have to get the next Pogrom release though, just to see if it was a "blip"!
I recently traded with this dude,
http://www.myspace.com/avrorin
His split with Biomass is pretty killer.
http://chondriticsound.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=35799&p=367837#p367837
wow. this google is a good thing, it's detected my last name here!
i'm grisha avrorin introduced by bajaras. i'm from st-petersburg.
yes, a lot of ambient and drone here in russia. i remind in one second cisfinitum, hum, lunar abyss deus organum, hladna, noises of russia, kriptogen rundfunk, gipnoz.
cisfinitum is a most known ambient\drone\noise project in a western world, i guess. evgenij voronovskij - classically trained violinist, started his non-classical works in a middle of 90's. he is from moscow. he use violin, soviet sythesizers, feedbacks, computers. i'm not a big fan of drone ambient, but some of his works are very impressive and monumental. sometimes his works are influented by mamleev visionaries, sometimes it's a big happenings. evgenij collaborated with almost all moscow underground artists.
he is the guy with a strange sense of humour, i'm in odds with him)
hum is a duo from moscow suburbs. they both have a lot of different projects beside hum. they work with tapes, field recordings, getting drone and, well, hum. i don't know them in person.
l.a.d.o. is solo project from my city, spb. he started about 10 years ago in the band sadohypnos (with nikolaj 'hladna' kalmykov). first they did 'shamanic' industrial, then he started l.a.d.o. he has mistic conception of carelian, old russian and hindu mixed tradotions.
hladna is nikolaj kalykov, man who escaped the city and now lives with his family deep in a woods. hladna started as power electronics, then drone and now forest ambient. i met him first at my talonov net band performance back in 1998. he is a brilliant guy.
noises of russia is moscow\st-pete group guided by gosha solnzev, they play dark ambient and are the most pr'ed ambient collective. they are good guys and girls, but too much pr.
kriptogen rundfunk is artem (i forgot his last name and the name of l.a.d.o. owner, sorry), he works with radionoise and analog synths. also he runs the biggest russian ug mailorder zhelezopeton. he is very cool guy.
gipnoz - dmitrij zubov from frjazino (near moscow), drone ambient mostly analog source. he is a good man for drinking.
sorry for such short 'descriptions' it's hard for me write about ambient and write it in english. i prefer harshnoise. if you have any questions, just ask, i will find out something.
Don't forget about the project Vetrophonia and the label Monochrome Vision. I have a ton of MV releases to sell, but haven't listed them because they were all sent without jewel cases.
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hum is a duo from moscow suburbs. they both have a lot of different projects beside hum. they work with tapes, field recordings, getting drone and, well, hum. i don't know them in person.
Not a duo but a single person, Dmitry Chistov. Very good and sincere guy.
well, thanks for correction. Dmitriy is from Fryazino too, isn't he?
Yes, Vetrophonia. But they are doing more in a way of constructivistic industrial, but I wrote about ambient.
Monochrome Vision is cool, I can't listen the most part of his releases though. And he releases mostly foreign artists.
Quote from: dddonkey on April 29, 2010, 10:39:41 PMhladna is nikolaj kalykov, man who escaped the city and now lives with his family deep in a woods. hladna started as power electronics, then drone and now forest ambient. i met him first at my talonov net band performance back in 1998. he is a brilliant guy.
noises of russia is moscow\st-pete group guided by gosha solnzev, they play dark ambient and are the most pr'ed ambient collective. they are good guys and girls, but too much pr.
I played with both the above bands in Dresden. I quite enjoyed Hladna's set and the 2xcdr he gave me that evening.
(http://www.collectivexxiii.com/fireinthehead/images/photos/dresden_2007/flyer_big.jpg)
ah and of course :
http://www.myspace.com/maaaanoise
they live in poland now i think
Any information available on Urauschwitz? I found the Zirkuszerfall cd quite intriguing although not fully successful. Can one expect more releases from them (or him/her?) in the future?
http://www.myspace.com/privateentertainment
Quote from: Strömkarlen on April 14, 2010, 10:04:33 AM
Not new but still great Russian industrial band was Popular Mechanics. I have one LP called Insect Culture released by Ark Records.
Got the LP for cheap somewhere but I can't really hear the "industrial" elements that much - reminds me more of a People Like Us vs. C W Vrtacek collaboration - lots of looped samples, cut-ups and saxophone. Are you sure your memory does not play tricks again?
Quote from: bogskaggmannen on May 17, 2010, 11:16:19 PM
Quote from: Strömkarlen on April 14, 2010, 10:04:33 AM
Not new but still great Russian industrial band was Popular Mechanics. I have one LP called Insect Culture released by Ark Records.
Got the LP for cheap somewhere but I can't really hear the "industrial" elements that much - reminds me more of a People Like Us vs. C W Vrtacek collaboration - lots of looped samples, cut-ups and saxophone. Are you sure your memory does not play tricks again?
Might have. I have to listen to it later today.
I think I have mentioned it on other forums, but back in the early 90's, from Finnish TV came document about Russian industrial & experiemental music. At least at that time I didn't know any of the bands. Now I can't remember who was in it. There was a lot of footage, interviews,.. atmosphere was perhaps more into TG/TestDept/Cabaret Voltaire/SPK type of industrial and there was stories about the pioneers of scene who put out reel-to-reel full lengths. I tried to find some Russian stuff, but at that time with very little of connections, only band I found through zines was called NEIRO NOISE. I wrote then and send some early Grunt stuff and band replied they aren't really noise at all.
Demo 93 I got in trade, is discordant 2-3 chord noisy punk. It has some experimental moments, but most likely many ideas taken from CRASS and such. Protest lyrics, simple drum beat and discordant guitar what sets it apart from "regular punk". He gave me couple names I could check out, but totally forgotten.
This is probably hijacking the theme, but if talking of old Russian/Soviet punk, one can say it was destined to be raw. I think several people at least in eastern finland I know had certain interest Grazhdanskaya Oborona. Even with hardly idea what band actually sings about, it is sonically interesting mix of sonic rawness, psychedelia and punkrock. Brutal conditions of being formed in siberia during era on KGB hammer up their ass all the time. Those interested can check out youtube for example. Countless albums available as CD in Russia.
There's link in noise related blog so perhaps others see some connection too?
http://mutant-sounds.blogspot.com/2007/03/grazhdanskaya-oborona-poganaya-molodej.html
Some members of Grazhdanskaya Oborona had side-project named Communism, which was about musique concrete, audio collages in soc-art vein at al. For the most part of people here it was the first attempt for non conditional music. A lot of people think it's a real industrial and noise.
I like Communism, it's realy fun and terrific.
Some years ago i was rather obsessed with the Russian industrial music. It felt to me as it was something new, but also very much rooted in the old indurtial style of TG, SPK etc. It seemed like a small "scene" mostly based in St. Petersburg and using many similar atributes but in different ways, like soviet iconic images, machines/factories, influenses from the futurists and creating mysterious atmosphere. Some more noisy some more subtile, repetative and droning. And all from a culture that felt quite alien to me, making it even more fascinating.
My absolute favorite was called HUM (also used other name that i forgot), very calm and obscure drones on tapes with blurry photographs as covers. Also liked very much SAL SOLARIS, LUNAR ABYSS QUARTET (more "ritualislic" with churchbells and chanting), BARDOCENETICCUBE etc. But i think most, if not all, i got had a very high quality and was intriguing in it´s own way. I remember a cdr with theme of Sputnik and Gagarin, but forgot the name of the artist. Almost all releases came in strange handmade covers with sympols and writing that i couldn´t understand. Great stuff!
But after a while i felt it all getting to my head so after some manic collecting i sold it all off, maybe a bit drastic + interest was very low so didn´t get much for it, but that was it.... then i spent some months mostly listening to calypso/mambo records, haha!
Also had some stuff from the Ukraine, it wasn´t quite as fascinating as the Russian stuff in general, more accesable, but still real good stuff.
And the 10" series on Der Angriff label had some true gems, specially the Sal Solaris/Stahlwerk 9 one.
Huh!!
VETROPHONIA / F.T.MARINETTI / F.B. PRATELLA "formula of war" cd !!!
Total kill!
So, basically this is Vetrophonia CD, but where the "stolen" old recordings are actually credited. You know the traditional euro industrial method, where some old tracks from past are used as songs, without telling who they actually were made by?
All the utmost orgasmic industrial/experimental/tape-manipulation/sound collage work of Vetrophonia is interrupted by long pieces of futurist music from past centuries. Marinetti and Pratella maybe get ignored within noise when everybody remembers to babble about Russolo, without really knowing anything. Myself included, that is! :D
Absolutely recommended, and being ltd 300 on CD on Russian label, I don't know how well its available anywhere, but few at FA distro.
first researches in noise and industrial related music was Arseny Avraamov and Dziga Vertov -in the begining of 20 century.
Vertov was a first ever industrial/noise musician,cause he use field-rec and special composed sounds in his film - Enthusiasm: Symphony of Donbass.
It's kinda Vivenza music but more authentic. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUInm2dC6Ug (for example from 0:40).
Example of Avraamov symphony is here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kq_7w9RHvpQ - the reconstruction of public event in Baku city in 1922.
Also,I would like to note intrestin tendencies - classic music with 'fabric' sound - for example Mosolov
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rq1-_UPwYSM and Sviridov - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILTVcp2Is78.
there were others composers and experimentators later:
Lev Thermin (creator of termenvox) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJ4dfYUlW1w
Murzin (creator of ANS) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptRmDeoQQlw
Artemiev (with more classic electronic music - like Pinhas) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=po50pva_uhU
Gubaidulina,Kreichi etc
in the 80th there was hometapers explosion, but musicians were often pursued by KGB therefore materials of that music actually didn't remain -
it is possible to list such names as ZGA,Popolznovenie,Communusm, DK, Dimakok,Alexey Tegin, early Stereozoldat and many others used industrial and noise elements in the albums.
later I can write about 90х if somebody becomes interested.
Quote from: Strömkarlen on April 14, 2010, 10:04:33 AM
Not new but still great Russian industrial band was Popular Mechanics.
I saw Pop Mechanica perfoming in Liverpool UK in 1989. Really amazing powerful show with performance art and use of local musicians (including Echo and the Bunnymen!) as well as Russian visitors. Very memorable.
Mr Phil Monopolka from St Petersburg, who started in a punk band The Man With The Gun, then became surrealist noise act Tea Man With Tea Gum, currently working I guess as Massive Ejaculation and publishing Paddington magazine - well this guy as well as being a friend is a major inspiration for me.
So much amazing art and music from Russia it is difficult to all follow.
I saw Massive Ejaculation in Tallinn a year and a half ago, it was really bad. But it seemed like it was some kind of comedy/performance act and he was speaking in russian so I guess I just didn't get the joke.
Love Cult from Petrozavodsk is a drone outfit that's maybe more "indie"/"hipster" than industrial:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lj2bwkBlyno
Ivan from the band runs the label Full of nothing that releases mostly folk-ish drone, ambient etc. from what I've heard.
Massive Ejaculation is shitcore I think so it cannot be taken seriously.
When Massive Ejaculation falls flat it is truly terrible, but when he is on fire the violence and electrifying qualities of the physical performance can transcend the shitcore origins and become closer to something like Hanatarash: venue space can be transformed, everyone's jaws drop. There is quite a mind behind all the deliberate stupidity too. "Pony Express" CD release of imaginary alternate reality 'demo tapes' of a terrible band is a quite extraordinary collection of mentally disturbed over-imagination with influence of many avant-garde art currents.
I enjoy the music I have of a Moscow collective improvised/experimental band SA ZNA on Leo Records. A mix of jazz musicians and non-musicians improvise dark and mysterious instrumental recordings. Artwork and liner notes also very cultlike and intriguing. Some similarities to AMM but with an A-Band sensibility. I am also reminded of YaHoWa somehow.
Quote from: HongKongGoolagong on February 05, 2013, 09:00:32 PM
When Massive Ejaculation falls flat
And ambitions are low
And resentment rides high
But emotions won't grow.
ALL TOGETHER NOW...
MASSIVE EJACULATION "Pony Express" is actually quite good album.
Are Lunar Abyss Quartet and Lunar Abyss Deus Organum the same group? I like the "Zoloto" track off the V/A Holy Mother Russia comp. Never enough tribal drums mixed with ambient and electronics. Any recommendations?
Quote from: Zeno Marx on February 16, 2013, 02:50:21 AM
Are Lunar Abyss Quartet and Lunar Abyss Deus Organum the same group? I like the "Zoloto" track off the V/A Holy Mother Russia comp. Never enough tribal drums mixed with ambient and electronics. Any recommendations?
Yes, this is the same. There also a couple more of other names LUNAR ABYSS + something or even L.A.D.O. Really good band, I like early albums the most dark and heavy with industrial taste.
My favorite are Zeleznaya Voda (2002) and Cosmologamma - Ichthyonoider (2000), but all those tribal and forest sound which came later are are great.
Quote from: kkkkkk on January 28, 2013, 02:18:00 AM
later I can write about 90х if somebody becomes interested.
certainly! Feel free to write more!
Fresh gig of VETROPHONIA http://youtu.be/2Ngiwi80KPQ
Really great stuff.
This seems very interesting!
http://www.elektromoskva.com/english/film (http://www.elektromoskva.com/english/film)
QuoteELEKTRO MOSKVA (Electro Moscow) is an essayistic documentary about the Soviet electronic age and its legacy. The story begins with the inventor of the world's first electronic instrument, Leon Theremin, unveiling the KGB's huge pile of fascinating devices, some of which were musical. They all came into existence as a by-product of a rampant defense industry. Nowadays, those aged and abandoned 'musical coffins', as solidly made as a Kalashnikov, are being recycled and reinterpreted by the post-Soviet generations of musicians, sound collectors and circuit benders. The story of the Soviet synthesizers as an allegory to the everyday life under the Soviet system: nothing works, but you have to make the best out of it. An electronic fairy tale about the inventive spirit of the free mind inside the iron curtain- and beyond.
(http://www.elektromoskva.com/content/english/photos/02.jpg)
Zex Model is a new Russian electronic project that I've been enjoying, the music is similar to '80s Skinny Puppy.
http://volna.afisha.ru/sounds/premera-alboma-zex-model-mind-slaughter-i-gid-po-new-body-music/
http://www.discogs.com/artist/Kotra (http://www.discogs.com/artist/Kotra)
Kotra - saw this guy maybe 4 years ago at a show in DC. Ukrainian, not Russian but close enough. Good stuff, sounded like a mash-up of John Wiese and Pan Sonic. Rhythmic glitch harsh noise? The CD I got from him was nowhere near as good as the live performance though.
Wow. Today I was trying to finally review VA - The report from distant lands - Russia 3xC90 released via Impulsy Stetoskopu. So interested in contemporary Russian stuff people can check this. It's quite cheap and tapes are long. But my discovery was Blockhead's Guts. Wow. After hours of experimental/ambient and a few noise tracks this blasts pure power electronics goodness. I don't know about the other releases of theirs, but that track is awesome.
Today was checking out tape shelves and noticed some odd blank tape box. Opened it, and it was Veprisuicida "Chinese Meat". Old ULTRA label release with ltd ed 50 copies hand carved in tapes. According to price tag, seems like I have got this from Artware Audio back in the day... What a great tape once again. Rotten sound quality is not really just "filth", it's just utterly tasty textures of decay and rawness. Always creating multiple layers of tape manipulation with abundance of details.
Seems like someone also quite recently uploaded material to youtube, so those who can't have access to this great Russian release, click here to start with first track and rest should be available from links..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uh8_909_iKU
Quote from: kkkkkk on January 28, 2013, 02:18:00 AM
first researches in noise and industrial related music was Arseny Avraamov and Dziga Vertov -in the begining of 20 century.
Vertov was a first ever industrial/noise musician,cause he use field-rec and special composed sounds in his film - Enthusiasm: Symphony of Donbass.
It's kinda Vivenza music but more authentic. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUInm2dC6Ug (for example from 0:40).
Example of Avraamov symphony is here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kq_7w9RHvpQ - the reconstruction of public event in Baku city in 1922.
Also,I would like to note intrestin tendencies - classic music with 'fabric' sound - for example Mosolov
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rq1-_UPwYSM and Sviridov - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILTVcp2Is78.
there were others composers and experimentators later:
Lev Thermin (creator of termenvox) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJ4dfYUlW1w
Murzin (creator of ANS) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptRmDeoQQlw
Artemiev (with more classic electronic music - like Pinhas) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=po50pva_uhU
Gubaidulina,Kreichi etc
in the 80th there was hometapers explosion, but musicians were often pursued by KGB therefore materials of that music actually didn't remain -
it is possible to list such names as ZGA,Popolznovenie,Communusm, DK, Dimakok,Alexey Tegin, early Stereozoldat and many others used industrial and noise elements in the albums.
later I can write about 90х if somebody becomes interested.
So many Soviet artists that were so ahead of their time... Avraamov, Mosolov, Khlebnikov are three of my personal favorites.
Not sure anyone really cares but just in case... I love this website: http://www.ruskeys.net/eng/synths.php
There's some good information on Russian industrial in the "Current Russian Industrial scene/projects? (http://www.special-interests.net/forum/index.php?topic=3967.0)" thread on this board also, in case people haven't checked that out yet. The posts of user "64" on that thread are every bit as useful as the overviews provided by G. Avrorin on this one.
Today I played "Воздействие"/"Impact" CD by Секта Феникса/Sekta Phoenixa a couple of times, and was reminded what a damn good release it is. According to online accounts (http://www.last.fm/music/Sekta+Phoenixa/+wiki), Sekta Phoenixa existed in Tomsk from 1999 – 2003, and functioned not only as an experimental musical project, but also as some sort of broader subversive experiment in living. It seems that a line-up of Секта Феникса is operating again (http://www.facebook.com/sekta.phoenixa) nowadays, although I haven't yet listened to their more recent output.
Back to "Impact"... this was originally released in 1999 as a cassette, but what I've heard is the 2009 CD release by Provoloka (http://prvlk.com/index_eng.htm), in which the original tracks were edited down in length somewhat. The tracks are improvised, mostly built around repetitive synth textures or beeping, to which other layers and especially guitar are eventually added. The overall sound has been compared to classic Throbbing Gristle (http://translate.google.com/translate?depth=1&hl=en&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http://maeror3.livejournal.com/135735.html), with added "psychedelic" guitars. While I pretty much agree with these characterizations, the release also curiously reminds me of some of the very best stuff that came out of New York during the second half of the Twentieth Century—everything from noisiest parts of the Velvet Underground, to the synth sounds of Suicide and the guitar styles of early No Wave acts (the unpolished grittiness of the guitars balancing out their alleged "psychedelic" aspects.) As far as I'm concerned, the release is one of the true underground classics of Russian industrial. I strongly encourage folk to grab one of the remaining CD copies whenever they show up on Discogs (the Provoloka label itself unhelpfully states that the CD is "temporary not available due some mysterious reasons [sic]").
For those who wish to explore Sekta Phoenixa's output further, it seems that one of the founding members has posted a number of other early cassettes and rehearsals as mp3 downloads on his blog (http://arhiv-johnjane.blogspot.com/search/label/%D0%B7%D0%B2%D1%83%D0%BA?max-results=20).
Стук Бамбука В XI Часов is a really good band. Their only album is an underrated gem.
"Formed in Izhevsk somewhere at the end of Soviet era, Bamboo Knock at 11 o'clock was a short-lived electronic art-project, whose sole album "Cold Is A Light Thing" was released just before their disbanding in 1991.
Complete dilettantes in the approach, but thorough inventors in methods of sound design, project members used manipulations with magnetic tapes, primitive analogue synthesizers, field recordings and distant, sad vocals to "create an atmosphere containing a mood", ranging from dreamlike lullaby to eerie menace as record progresses, staying vaguely surreal, yet naturally engaging all the way it lasts. Though the elements of dark ambient, electroacoustics, ambient techno, field recordings and (arguably) early anticipations of trip-hop are considered to present here, this enigmatic act avoids to sound restricted by any genre's cliche and remains truly unique and unclassifiable still to this day."
Full album:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DG2nFwyEnJE
also, there's a cat on the cover
Bunch of ULTRA label items in recent playlist...
ORGANOMEHANIZM first tape
Ultra 039
Debut tape of this project, guy also member of Reductio Ad Absurdum among others. Year 2000 and certainly something to search for. Due not being any big name, you can grab this cheaply online. First side, having Organomehanizm Part I, goes well under atmosphere of Ultra label other groups such as Veprisuicida, Vetrophonia etc. Industrial/noise in short. B-side with part 2 is surprisingly close to brutality of harsh noise wall, yet it also has some subtle layering where you can hear other things happen than static fuzz.
Vetrophonia "Kuomintang" tape
Ultra 026
Collaborative project between Nick Sudnick (ZGA) and Alexander Lebedev-Frontov (Linija Mass). This tape from 1998 is something what would be nice to see reissued. By copy of tape has few glitches in its dubbing. Few clicks and pops what shouldn't be there. It doesn't affect much listening pleasure, since material is so good. In other hand, sample from youtube seems to have less balance in channels. Industrial-noise is the name of the game, where tape manipulation, sound collages and loops create massive rusty broken machine. It's not pedal oriented fuzzy distortion, but overdriven tape distortion. Each of the 3 tracks may be live creations - not sure - but at least they feel like there hasn't been almost any editing & post-production what makes the material flow very naturally with great spontaneous feel to it. Strongly recommended!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qniqftevjw4
K2/VEPRISUICIDA split tape
Ultra 038
K2 here is such a masterworks, even the russians can keep up. Year 2000, so kind of last stages before project went dormant for a while. Loud as fuck harsh noise cut-up with mini pauses between moments where loud electronics and metal junk and feedback compete of loudness and brutality. Never density of layering. Always in-your-face. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSiIQep5w2I
Veprisuicida is much less powerful, and disadvantage of coming after 30 minutes bombardment leads him to make clearly less impact. It is ok, but on standards of ALF it seems like random stuff he put together in late 90's and threw on side of split for fun. But not much else.
Zavoloka
Alexei Borisov
Olga Nosova
Andrei Kiritchenko
The Moglass
Arturas Bumsteinas
Gintas K
Fear Konstruktor
Sal Solaris
QuoteArturas Bumsteinas
Gintas K
Those guys are from Lithuania! :)
Quote from: Jnz on March 16, 2016, 05:32:33 PM
QuoteArturas Bumsteinas
Gintas K
Those guys are from Lithuania! :)
Baltic states - soviet union - close enough ;-)
I am trying to rember the name of a composition or symphony maybe sombody here knows it ? I read about it in an interveiw somewhere but cant recall where. Anyway it is perhaps a symphony but it is played with military artillary that is cannons riffles syrens etc are the actuall instruments I think it was supposed to be played in the black sea off Crimea useing lots of ships but was never preformed however some sort of version of it exists. Anyone know what it is ?
Thats it exactly thanks
Currents Of Death - Cretodoh! CD is not bad at all. PE recordings from 1992, released by Provoloka label. Worth listening.
Sample : https://youtu.be/O6ffhTOmYQY
Sirotek.
Sounds like a grimier Skin Graft. Some of the best slow HN I've heard.
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on May 19, 2010, 10:43:47 AM
I think I have mentioned it on other forums, but back in the early 90's, from Finnish TV came document about Russian industrial & experiemental music. At least at that time I didn't know any of the bands. Now I can't remember who was in it. There was a lot of footage, interviews,.. atmosphere was perhaps more into TG/TestDept/Cabaret Voltaire/SPK type of industrial and there was stories about the pioneers of scene who put out reel-to-reel full lengths.
I still have that document transfered to dvd. The document is "The Double - Russian industrial music and low-tech videos" made by Mika Taanila and Anton Nikkilä. It's mostly a compilation of videos with a short document part in the beginning. Musicwise there's not much to remember, ranging from poor man's Swans to some strange 'arte-shit', so the old video footage is much more interesting.
Here is link to trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9MfDNVkeZM&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9MfDNVkeZM&feature=youtu.be)
Here is a text from program notes:
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This music video compilation made by two young Finns captures perfectly the zeitgeist of the early 1990's on both sides of the temporarily fallen Iron Curtain. On the Russian side there are the omnipresent ruins of the old industrial society and a prevailing sense that anything absurd or ridiculous may happen at any moment; on the Finnish side the postmodernist juxtaposition of incongruous materials such as early, wild Russian TV ads with interviews of underground video-makers, as well as low tech aesthetics and production methods seen as a liberation from centralized control. What brought them together was atemporary breakdown of hierarchies in the mainstream media – the Finnish national TV partially financed this hunt for deeply untraditional amateurs, while the Russian national TV provided editing equipment and plenty of nationwide air time for these outsider auteurs and their videos with titles like "Fucking Electrisity" (sic), "Brain Parasites","Captivated by the Handicapped", or "You Must Forget Everything".
1. Pusk: V plenu u invalidov
Captivated by the Handicapped, 1993
2. Iskusstvennoye dykhaniye: Vanya (Revolyutsiya)
Vanya (Revolution), 1992
3. Microsurgery: Amalgama
Amalgam, 1989
4. Vadim Koshkin & Nikolai Shiroky: Parazity mozga
Brain Parasites, 1993
5. Notchnoi Prospekt: Abyss
directed by Konstantin Bozhiev, 1989/1993
6. Elena Nabel: Je voudrais me taire1992
7. Igor Verichev: Vy dolzhny vsyo zabyt
You Must Forget Everything, directed by Sergey Shutov, 1992
8. Velvet & Velvet Dolls: Skazka
Fairytale, 1992
9. Laboratoriya merzloty: Svet v kontse tunnelya
Light at the End of the Tunnel, fragment from a pirate cable tv show, directed by Kirill Preobrazhensky and Alexey Belyayev, 1991
10. Currents of Death: Fucking Electrisity
directed by Vadim Koshkin, 1993
11. Stuk bambuka v XI chasov: Snezhnyi myod
Snow Honey, 1992"
Bardoseneticcube + Noises of Russia: New Orthodox Line CD is brilliant stuff. Mixture of slowly building noise wall and orthodox chanting is a marriage made in heaven. Noises of Russia's Gosha (aKa 1g0g) took that route with even better results in 'All Sacred' CDr, which goes easily to my top 10 noise albums of all time.
Quote from: Marko-V on March 25, 2016, 11:43:07 PM
Bardoseneticcube + Noises of Russia: New Orthodox Line CD is brilliant stuff. Mixture of slowly building noise wall and orthodox chanting is a marriage made in heaven. Noises of Russia's Gosha (aKa 1g0g) took that route with even better results in 'All Sacred' CDr, which goes easily to my top 10 noise albums of all time.
Thanks for the recommendations, really like this stuff. Marriage made in heaven- good choice of words! Also grabbed and enjoyed the other two items from the New Orthodox Line bandcamp, though these were less noise-laden, more in the ambient and collage veins respectively.
This combination- orthodox chanting, or any of the more melodramatic-type religio chanting, plus noise seems to be a genre worthy of its own thread. I've been tempted to start one but have resisted thus far. About the only reason I'd see this not catching on as a genre, or whatever, would be the simple fact that the chanting already sounds great on its own. Any noise efforts to feature only a minimum of processing might appear like cheating. (In the ritual-ambient vein I'd mention Sigillum S Bardo Thos-Grol, a personal favorite but also not far removed from recordings one might encounter of Tibetan ritual music, those of the Gyuto monks in particular. In their defense, Bardo was originally issued as a "private edition".)
Quote from: Bloated Slutbag on March 30, 2016, 03:56:26 AM
This combination- orthodox chanting, or any of the more melodramatic-type religio chanting, plus noise seems to be a genre worthy of its own thread. I've been tempted to start one but have resisted thus far. About the only reason I'd see this not catching on as a genre, or whatever, would be the simple fact that the chanting already sounds great on its own. Any noise efforts to feature only a minimum of processing might appear like cheating. (In the ritual-ambient vein I'd mention Sigillum S Bardo Thos-Grol, a personal favorite but also not far removed from recordings one might encounter of Tibetan ritual music, those of the Gyuto monks in particular. In their defense, Bardo was originally issued as a "private edition".)
Talking about Russian electronics and 'religious noise', there is also this:
https://www.discogs.com/artist/748949-Irmologion (https://www.discogs.com/artist/748949-Irmologion)
And a little bit of shameless self-promotion:
https://archive.org/details/La-Musique_Concrete_part_1 (https://archive.org/details/La-Musique_Concrete_part_1)
Pretty old video (1993!) - Russian industrial music @ YLE TV https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ek3XgljIWew
There is a lot of rare stuff!
Apologies if this has already been mentioned or is only semi relevant.
One of my most treasured finds of recent months is the FUNKED UP EAST YouTube channel.
Besides being a treasure trove of obscure jazz, prog and psych from former soviet countries and beyond, there is a wealth of experimental, concrete, synthesiser & avant garde stuff to be found spanning decades.
Go and shove that into YouTube and enjoy.
I like MAAAA.
And from the "Extreme Music from Russia" comp, I enjoy everything on it, but what stands out there is Volga, I followed up on their work, haven't been disappointed.
I.M.M.U.R.E. is Russia's answer to COIL and Current 93 at times, but with his own style. I really enjoy his work, he has his own take on the "psychedelic electronics" of the late 90s.
Kshatriy does some really excellent dark ambient/drone.