http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOpKRYT9WiA
"Bonus tracks"? Tracks that didn't make it onto the comp due to time length or because the label turned them down?
They are new tracks that have no relation with the original compilation
Quote from: audiodissection on August 20, 2013, 01:35:55 AM
They are new tracks that have no relation with the original compilation
Oh why?
it's a Joe Roemer decision...
Maybe for all the People who have the Original Compilation (not me ;()
4 CD Set will be Awesome :)
Never heard this classic comp and i'm looking forward to check it out. Would be better though without these random bonus tracks. Are they on a seperate disc..?
Why to make such a big deal about some bonus tracks? I mean it's 4-CD set, a reissue of some old comp, in my opinion couple of extra tracks can't harm it. Kazumoto Endo... Encephalophonic... Yes please!
Quote from: Scat-O-Logy on August 20, 2013, 08:43:10 PM
Why to make such a big deal about some bonus tracks? I mean it's 4-CD set, a reissue of some old comp, in my opinion couple of extra tracks can't harm it. Kazumoto Endo... Encephalophonic... Yes please!
Yup, the more the merrier!
What's this lovely set gonna cost, approximately?
the america noise comp is around 20+ and its 2cds guessing this one will be around 40+
Quote from: Scat-O-Logy on August 20, 2013, 08:43:10 PM
Why to make such a big deal about some bonus tracks? I mean it's 4-CD set, a reissue of some old comp, in my opinion couple of extra tracks can't harm it. Kazumoto Endo... Encephalophonic... Yes please!
When possible i like to listen to records the way they were originally released and do not care for new artwork, re-mastered sound or a different track list. Also, i think it's a bit strange that the label owner adds his own project to this compilation.
Quote from: impulse manslaughter on August 21, 2013, 01:07:46 AM
Quote from: Scat-O-Logy on August 20, 2013, 08:43:10 PM
Why to make such a big deal about some bonus tracks? I mean it's 4-CD set, a reissue of some old comp, in my opinion couple of extra tracks can't harm it. Kazumoto Endo... Encephalophonic... Yes please!
When possible i like to listen to records the way they were originally released and do not care for new artwork, re-mastered sound or a different track list. Also, i think it's a bit strange that the label owner adds his own project to this compilation.
You can easly purchase the original 2xCS edition on discogs if you want the original. It's not the label owner who add his own project, but Joe Roemer (who is the owner of all rights/master tapes) who asked me to contribute with an Encephalophonic bonus track, just like he asked to SICKNESS, Skin Crime and Endo.
And...what do you mean with "i don't care for re-mastered sound"..?? How do you think a 20years-old cassette compilation sound with no remastering?
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on August 20, 2013, 11:05:58 PM
Not a big deal but it does beg the question why bonus tracks by artists with no relation to the original comp.?
How many of the artists have been difficult to find contact for or are no longer among the living (D.Gilden is dead, right?)?
I am in contact with most of the artists involved. Gilden is dead according to some trustworthy information.
it's funny how many say "you should do this" "you should do that" in place of being happy there are still dedicated people who work hard to keep the good stuffs alive and properly released, so i encourage everyone who think that can make this classic compilation turn out better than me to contact Joe and move the plans on its label.
Quote from: audiodissection on August 21, 2013, 02:27:44 AM
it's funny how many say "you should do this" "you should do that" in place of being happy there are still dedicated people who work hard to keep the good stuffs alive and properly released, so i encourage everyone who think that can make this classic compilation turn out better than me to contact Joe and move the plans on its label.
whats his contact info???
just playing around. im really excited for this one. bonus material never hurt & feels alot better then paying 100+ the original.
Quote from: STREETMEAT on August 21, 2013, 02:46:49 AM
Quote from: audiodissection on August 21, 2013, 02:27:44 AM
it's funny how many say "you should do this" "you should do that" in place of being happy there are still dedicated people who work hard to keep the good stuffs alive and properly released, so i encourage everyone who think that can make this classic compilation turn out better than me to contact Joe and move the plans on its label.
whats his contact info???
just playing around. im really excited for this one. bonus material never hurt & feels alot better then paying 100+ the original.
Mother Savage Noise Productions
Joseph Roemer
1180 Colgate Drive
Monroeville, PA 15146 USA
Whether or not this was Joe's decision, the notion of adding completely unrelated, new bonus tracks to this comp is fucking offensive. Some things should not be tampered with. Noise War is a total bigger than the sum of its parts (Mother Savage and contributing artists). And if the label goes along with it, that is offensive as well. Just because Joe says to add some tracks doesn't mean you have to do it. A label should have some integrity about the things it releases. I thought your Americanoise cd release was tasteful and well-executed, and you should do the same with Noise War. Noise War is one of my favorite releases of all time and yet I would never release it if it meant defiling it with half-assed "bonus" tracks.
There are lots of classic releases with added bonus tracks and remastering.
For fans it may be total offense when suddenly there is "new artwork", "stronger sound", "bonus tracks"... but the original makers had another idea.
Of course if I was to make suggestion, would have probably suggested possibility of "noise war 2012" as separate release put out simultaneously. But beauty is that many good things are born from senseless situations and majority of listeners are listening this now for the first time. It will be curious to see if the additions stand out somehow "out of place" or simply blend in..
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on August 21, 2013, 08:40:35 AM
There are lots of classic releases with added bonus tracks and remastering.
For fans it may be total offense when suddenly there is "new artwork", "stronger sound", "bonus tracks"... but the original makers had another idea.
Of course if I was to make suggestion, would have probably suggested possibility of "noise war 2012" as separate release put out simultaneously. But beauty is that many good things are born from senseless situations and majority of listeners are listening this now for the first time. It will be curious to see if the additions stand out somehow "out of place" or simply blend in..
Obviously there are many releases added with bonus tracks, but I think a compilation is different from adding previously unreleased recordings to an album by one band or something. I think your Industrial Recollections releases are generally ideal in terms of reissue ideology. They are faithful to the originals and don't indulge in a lot of extraneous packaging or added tracks.
Compilations are delicate matters anyway. I agree that a separate "Noise War 2012" release would have been less irksome because it would not intrude upon the integrity of the original; however, very few compilations of that sort are successful either. (See, for instance, the "Wine of Satan II" comp which is one of the most embarrassing attempts to recapture the irretrievably lost spirit of an era embodied in a classic compilation.) I just see no benefit to adding new material to that compilation and the potential for doing harm.
Classic comp, definitely looking forward for the re-issue.
I see no problems in adding material to reissues if they fit the concept/sound, which is something I am sure is going to happen in this occasion. The few additional names definitely files it into my "must-have" list.
I think its strange that now people are against Bonus Tracks or anything what a Release would make better or bigger (from Durationtime for example), since i'm happy to get the Stuff in first place, instead not getting anything. In NWN Forum the People also lament about Die Hards, Special Editions and Bonus Tracks, buit i have the feeling that most of them have had wrote the Opposite not too long ago. For me, i welcome any Bonustrack on a Release.
Otherwise the Penis Rectus was somekind of irritating before i get thats a new Comp. with "Best Off Bonus CD"
Is this one still planned to be released someday? Would be great!
Or did I miss something?
this is still available from stella. i paid $15 in person, but they are $20 via mailorder. sounds great. crisp and loud. does not come with outer bag with screen printed image of hitler, but otherwise it's the same.
Big project, so takes longer time. I think its on final stages. Industrial Recollections should take part in getting set financed made in reality. I think this year!
Quote from: sterilization on June 15, 2015, 03:24:21 AM
this is still available from stella. i paid $15 in person, but they are $20 via mailorder. sounds great. crisp and loud. does not come with outer bag with screen printed image of hitler, but otherwise it's the same.
I should clarify, by "this" I mean the cassette version.
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on June 15, 2015, 10:09:40 AM
Big project, so takes longer time. I think its on final stages. Industrial Recollections should take part in getting set financed made in reality. I think this year!
Thanks for the information. Good to know this will happen. I can wait.
...also thanks to sterilization for the info about the tape version!