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GENERAL SOUND DISCUSSION => GENERAL SOUND DISCUSSION => Topic started by: Otomo_Hava on January 03, 2014, 04:34:32 PM

Title: Archive Copies
Post by: Otomo_Hava on January 03, 2014, 04:34:32 PM
Do you find valuable and useful to hold a copy for your own archive collection (in case of being an artist or label owner or both) of albums you have or others have released from your/others label(s)?
Title: Re: Archive Copies
Post by: FreakAnimalFinland on January 03, 2014, 05:28:14 PM
I generally keep 3 copies of most things. 1 for listening, 1 storage, 1 "back up". But no more. I never felt like stashing copies for the future. CDR and tape I might have just 1 copy.

There is VERY very few other labels items I have extra copy. Possibly not more than 5 different items.
Title: Re: Archive Copies
Post by: Steve on January 03, 2014, 07:43:09 PM
I keep the Test Pressing and one release copy - the rest goes as merchandise ... I have found this the rule of thumb with other folk too.
Title: Re: Archive Copies
Post by: Zeno Marx on January 03, 2014, 09:21:45 PM
I used to keep one test pressing and five of the general pressing, but I've given many vaulted copies as gifts.  I don't know what I have anymore.  Never sold a test pressing; always sent them out to close comrades to double-check for plating and mastering errors; the more ears the better.  As for the cassettes, only one kept copy because the pressings weren't large enough to get obsessive with more.
Title: Re: Archive Copies
Post by: impulse manslaughter on January 03, 2014, 10:17:31 PM
I usually keep 1 copy of every version..
Title: Re: Archive Copies
Post by: pentd on January 06, 2014, 03:02:59 AM
2-3 of each thing i've made or worked on.

fun fact: the bigger the label, the higher the probability of never receiving even 1 copy for myself without asking repeatedly.. and even then it's just 1 copy, would be nice to even have some backups. indie/ug artists/labels/players are the other way around, "are these 3 (or 5 or whatever) copies ok for you?"
Title: Re: Archive Copies
Post by: Steve on January 06, 2014, 10:26:56 AM
It's always been 10% of pressing for the last 20 years ....
Title: Re: Archive Copies
Post by: andy vomit on January 06, 2014, 07:34:44 PM
i keep (meaning "i don't sell") one copy of every release i've appeared on.
Title: Re: Archive Copies
Post by: Dr Alex on January 06, 2014, 07:49:07 PM
2 copies of everything I've appeared on for my personal collection.
Title: Re: Archive Copies
Post by: HOGRA on January 06, 2014, 08:55:06 PM
Quote from: Dr Alex on January 06, 2014, 07:49:07 PM
2 copies of everything I've appeared on for my personal collection.

Same with me.
Title: Re: Archive Copies
Post by: stealththought on January 07, 2014, 12:35:06 AM
I keep the first and last numbered copies of what I release. And uh, all thr other copies that no one buys.
Title: Re: Archive Copies
Post by: SNR on January 08, 2014, 08:39:43 PM
I get rid of every copies. Personally, I don't see the point of the storage about my materials... I've got the original WAV, and/or tape masters + original artwork/or with the prints. So, I listen them, if I want to listen my own stuff, and not the issues. Also, 2-3 near friends always have a copy of an issue, so, if I would need the release material for something, I still can get them.
Title: Re: Archive Copies
Post by: tiny_tove on January 08, 2014, 10:06:04 PM
i try to keep 2 copies of everything I do (apart from compilations), but often give away also back up copies.
Title: Re: Archive Copies
Post by: Mattias G on January 08, 2014, 10:26:11 PM
Quote from: tiny_tove on January 08, 2014, 10:06:04 PM
i try to keep 2 copies of everything I do (apart from compilations), but often give away also back up copies.


Same here.
Title: Re: Archive Copies
Post by: WCrap on January 10, 2014, 07:58:30 AM
Quote from: Steve on January 06, 2014, 10:26:56 AM
It's always been 10% of pressing for the last 20 years ....

seriously? i consider everything below 20% a rip-off. as an artist for me everything below this percentage is unacceptable. as a label i usually give 20-30%, depending on how many the artist wants / needs (or the equivalent in money).
Title: Re: Archive Copies
Post by: FreakAnimalFinland on January 10, 2014, 08:52:54 AM
Yeah. I have been ripped off couple times. Not getting copies of compilations I submitted tracks or getting just 1 copy of solo tape. But otherwise, 20% seems like most usual free copy royalty. Of course depends on type of project one does, but I see very few scenarios where accepting 10% would be fair.
Title: Re: Archive Copies
Post by: Zeno Marx on January 10, 2014, 10:51:11 AM
20-25% was the standard, and I can't see any reason why it would be less now.  10% feels like a real shoe squeezing of the artist(s).
Title: Re: Archive Copies
Post by: kettu on January 10, 2014, 12:28:18 PM
I have some archive copies, first time on vinyl etc but tend to get rid off most stuff with the exeption of making a tape dub for myself of the material. when fasting is not an option even artist copies must be sold.




Title: Re: Archive Copies
Post by: Ashmonger on January 12, 2014, 02:47:17 PM
About the 20% free copies for the artist, I guess this doesn't count for compilations. I'm thinking about the Small Doses Noise/Noisecore comp CD for example...
Title: Re: Archive Copies
Post by: Matthias on January 12, 2014, 03:28:27 PM
Quote from: Ashmonger on January 12, 2014, 02:47:17 PM
About the 20% free copies for the artist, I guess this doesn't count for compilations. I'm thinking about the Small Doses Noise/Noisecore comp CD for example...

20% shared among the contributed artists seems to be standard (like a comp in 500 copies with 10 artists = 10 copies per act).
Title: Re: Archive Copies
Post by: tisbor on January 14, 2014, 09:02:27 PM
I try to keep at least 1 copy of every release of my own project. When it's possible I also store stuff from my label. The main problem is having enough space for everything!
Title: Re: Archive Copies
Post by: Bleak Existence on January 15, 2014, 06:58:31 AM
i keep 1 copy of every release of my old and present project