What was the first exposure in noise in early days of internet?
I was just reading Akitsa interview, where he mentions doing some noise trading in MSBR's forum. I remember that, and most of all... Noiseweb? Quite primitive list of links and... reviews? There was chatroom done by mr. Stimbox, what was very first times I had online discussions with various people. This was all in late 90's.
Due being time before most people had connections at home, it was all very limited hours in library or other such place. Perhaps never going to receive the glorified status of paper catalogues etc, especially that I would assume none of early sites are documented anywhere?
I remember
Krachcom - German Board with some Compilations. I can't log in since Years and the Main Admins changed over the Time. Not sure if its dead. But in the Beginning it was useful and Funny. It was connected to Eternal Soul and LWhite was really present there.
Iron Flame - Nice done Info Site and Link Site
Nonpop - Info Site and Board, mostly about Neofolk, but also about other Stuff. Changed a Lot over the Years. Abbandoned the Board Section several Years ago.
Several (AOL) Chat Rooms
Since the Noise Scene where a Part of Goth Scene in Germany, it was quiet easy to get into it. Mostly the People already knew the Stuff. Was no big Deal if soemone was in DI6/C93 and in Whitehouse, Merzbow and TG at the same Time like into Das Ich, Lacrimosa and Laibach
Probably 1998, all noise groups and forums I belonged to were on Yahoo ....
first exposure to noise in general,as well as earliest contacts. 1999.....
alt.noise
rec.music.industrial
malignant records tumor list
noiseboard433
ah, of course the lists... postmortem list. Whitehouse list. Cold Meat list...
I am still in contact with several friends I met on noise web in late 90's...
napster and first myspace were a nice place to learn
I remember my very first online lists / emails, etc. for ordering HN were all via Self Abuse.
Quote from: collapsedhole on May 31, 2015, 11:02:12 PM
malignant records tumor list
+1. regret being so belligerent with Easter. he genuinely irritated me, but I was out of control.
well well well.
for sure noiseweb, staalplaat's vital newsletter and iron flame and a few others.
for several year I had been running my own newsletter that got me in contact with many of today's friends
I was following the Usenet newsgroup rec.music.industrial from 1991. Around 94-95 discussions about japnoise became more frequent, with extremely informed participants such as Mason Jones (Charnel House), Brian Duguid (EST magazine), Roy K. Felps (Körperswache, Monotremata label), Ares Solis (Eskathos magazine), Dan Kletter (Flying Esophagus label), and many more I can't recall now. Some of which I kept in touch with for years. Then as was mentioned the alt.noise newsgroup existed in parallell but it never became as useful as r.m.i. in my opinion, partly because many Usenet admins wouldn't have their servers carrying the cesspool of alt.* groups
There around the mid-90's the mailing lists started to pop up too... cold meat, world serpent, malignant, etc.
oh yeah the CMI list was an active one but really the tumorlist was most useful in my earliest exposure to noise... self abuse advertised on there and browsing the SAR catalog was eye opening. malignant also sold a lot of power electronics like slogun - see those eyes lathe 7" box and taint - daughter: victimology 2 - the edition with bloody panties... and when a lot of the PC pussies raised a stink about the first Control CD artwork that led me to research the project thus finding out about Troniks... and finding out about Troniks was how i found out about current noise activities - not just the buying the older well knowns.
MSBR board was the first for me. Lots of fun. People got genuinely excited about ANY new release.
I spent a lot of time on boards run by folks from Redwood CA - anyone remember the Cult of W.O.N?
I wonder if some of those websites could be found via some web-archive tools? Around '96-'98 I had a website with unofficial websites for some industrial bands before they had their own sites. Also had informative pages like "list of bands' email addresses"... I remember some bigger names emailing me and asking me to include their email addresses on the page, haha.
My chronology is something like...
rec.music.industrial
alt.noise*
cmi-list
difficult-l (hosted by Mr Anal Sadist)
various lists incl the malignant tumor
and then assorted web sites, chatrooms, etc etc.
Archives of the cmi-list can still be found, but I can't seem to find even the teeniest snippet of difficult-l.
Most of alt.noise still comes up, even my first online "harsh noise" review (https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/alt.noise/mxm/alt.noise/x65YBe65FZs/a6dRTU_3HgcJ)
*What I like most about alt.noise is that it is the only sound forum I know of (possibly the only in existence), which was not set up exclusively by fans/perv-veyors for fans/perv-veyors. It was just kind of claimed by the noise community, as such. At its peak, which may have extended a good few years, legitimate discussion may have actually outweighed the random porn/spam posts.
Quote from: Salamanauhat on June 01, 2015, 10:11:49 PM
I wonder if some of those websites could be found via some web-archive tools?
It may be worth trying the Wayback Machine over at https://archive.org/ which has archived billions of webpages.
Brainwashed.com exposed me to early industrial, particularly the axis archives. https://web.archive.org/web/20000919092954/http://brainwashed.com/axis/ (https://web.archive.org/web/20000919092954/http://brainwashed.com/axis/)
The circuitbenders yahoo mailing list/group and various splinter groups (Tablebeast dramas etc haha) were great for years, and at one point my own site had a comprehensive list of all circuitbending, and a lot of Noise for that matter, info/sites that existed on the internet, back when that was actually possible for a given subject. :)
+ was on some of the afforementioned forums and lists too :)
off topic but a related for me at least, micromusic.net and www.vorc.org used to be important and extremely active back in the day for the more chipmusic/8bit/computer side of things. I even made it to VORC news one time for releasing a track of gameboy camera drone, they were pretty comprehensive :D
One minor obsession of Newport noise friends and I circa 2000 was the OOBS Records/Joysticks site - http://oobsrecords.tripod.com/ - never heard any of their music/noise at all (please do let me know anyone if you have any!!) but reading their absurd tour diaries i'd say was one of the biggest influences on Cementimental when I was starting out. :) One of the OOBS guys went on to massive success as Girl Talk in more recent years and I felt weirdly proud/happy for him ^__^;
Quote from: Cementimental on June 04, 2015, 10:26:38 PM
, micromusic.net
very good one.
my gf is quite interested in the subject and we often hang around with people involved in that scene in Italy. Tony Light (Italian 8 bit hero) is also my "teacher" in cirvuit bending, etc...
I'd be remiss to mention mp3.com. It's s tragedy that site was never archived, a real loss to humanity. My friends Snork Maiden had hundreds of a albums on there at a time when done poor startup-money funded did would actually listen to every track uploaded to check that it didn't sound like it might infringe copyrights :D
rec.music.industrial
I was into Skinny Puppy, Godflesh and Skin Chamber (and I still am) and wanted to find something more extreme. r.m.i suggested Merzbow. Since then there's been no turning back.