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Performance artist/musician from Houston, Texas known for his wild shows and excessive drug abuse. Born on June 1, 1973. Died on April 6, 2008. (from discogs)

i've met this artist never know before. Very impressive artist.
i think deserves reissues for long time soldout tapes. ( my opinion )

someone have experience about Dave Gilden?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBtjIJzNymc


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A legendary, influential and mysterious figure of 90's American Noise. I don't know how many times I've listened to Texas Chainsaw Dopefiend over the past year, probably hundreds. It's hard to listen to new noise when you have perfect and timeless classics such as that.

Don't know if this has been posted here before, but here is a nice resource for some hard to find and out of print Gilden and related material:

http://davidgildennoisearchive.weebly.com/

Reissues would be great, sure. The Dopefiend tape is available from time to time from Mr Stella though. Same goes for some Slave Labour material.
There are a handful of Black Leather Jesus recordings featuring Gilden as well, and they're still easy to find; the pic LP on Praxis Dr Bearmann, Torture Machinist (reissued as CD on Industrial Recollections).

Quote from: Baglady on December 29, 2015, 08:07:20 PM
Torture Machinist (reissued as CD on Industrial Recollections).

yes i have it. I had not noticed the credits

there's a tape in slaughter prod. catalogue.
material for Urashima maybe?

There is a reissue of TC Dopefiend coming on CD, I think Jon from Pedestrian Deposit is doing it?
I was lucky enough to acquire copies of the Sawgasm and Slave Labor "A Sick Cow" tapes earlier this year. Both total classics. His stuff always sounds legitimately dangerous, and made by someone not so stable in one way or another, but with complete command over what they're doing.

I traded with him & met him once but I don't remember anything specific about him.

the TCD reissue will come eventually, but it has to be right. under-appreciated 90's noise genius that fits perfectly with evolution and contemporary methods; would certainly be appreciated by the current generation. trash ritual has all gilden's master tapes, but hasn't done anything with them. would be nice if they were forwarded to someone else.

i'm curious who's behind the weebly page, but i haven't attempted to make contact. there's some great unreleased sessions available for download there.

Trash ritual guy is "underground" or something right ??

I've had this Dave Gilden / Dachise split 7"EP on the Dutch New Noise label (Peter Zinken's label) since release in the 1990's. Never knew who Gilden was, thanks for the information.

I recall there was David Gilden appreciation thread back in the noisefanatics days. I managed to get basically master CDR of one David Gilden tape from TWR Tapes. Tidal Wave Recycling was Lasse Marhaug's label back in 90's and seems so obscure/overlooked that many of labels releases do not appear even at discogs where most stuff seems to get listed...

I did re-issue of Egoproblem "Exit Tape Kill" tape on CD (Industrial Recollections). It's old Marhaug project after Herb Mullin, but before changing to publish under his own name. Pretty much industrial-noise vibe on it. Some talk was about David Gilden tape, but the man is dead. I've heard some quite amusing stories of his drug-frenzied behavior.

Tape on TWR is not as good as Texas Chainsaw Dopefiend or Depress-Regress.

One should not forget his many collaboration projects with Ramirez. Slave Labor and Lingula. What I remember hearing first, is Bondage Harvest I think he was member. I have very very vague feeling it was more band line-up, kind of Swans influenced stuff heavy and slow bounding. I remember 1990 demo was reviewed in some metal magazines who didn't like such "mindless noise".

Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on December 30, 2015, 06:28:06 PM
I've heard some quite amusing stories of his drug-frenzied behavior.

Tell us more, mister!

I've been under a rock.  Never heard of him.  Looking forward to the exposure.  It's great to know there are potential gems left to be unearthed.

I ways wonder if TCDF is so good because Stella edited it too... ????

Quote from: totalabuse on December 31, 2015, 01:49:41 AM
I ways wonder if TCDF is so good because Stella edited it too... ????

I would say there is some definite truth to this statement. I haven't heard too many of his other works other than TCDF, but what I have heard I can say there is a marked difference, at least with the editing style, in comparison to other works.

I keep reading about how good Texas Chainsaw Dopefiend is. Any news about when the CD reissue, and also the Gilden box set will be out (both were mentioned on this forum years ago)?

Quote from: acsenger on April 28, 2018, 12:18:17 AM
and also the Gilden box set will be out (both were mentioned on this forum years ago)?

Still waiting on a few masters to be unboxed for me. I don't want to have it finished and have other things surface.

Oooh, is that box actually coming to fruition maybe?? Sign me the heck up.

More info would be nice!

Get thee behind me, Satan!

Not much info to give other than it will be pretty massive (at least 15 C60-C90s). Material will range from hard to find material, solo side projects and private releases. Things like TCDf WILL NOT be included because of it's ease of access and Monorail eventually doing a remastered CD version. Still figuring out the art and box, but those will come later.

15 C60-C90s ?!! At least ?! Fucking god ! This is going to be legendary !

Every tape-hungry noisehead is going to shit themselves

Thought the Trash Ritual guy had all Gilden's masters along with a ton of other MSNP and Deadline stuff? Is he just randomly starting to unload stuff he has no intention of doing anything with? Seems kind of strange after all this time, would be curious to know exactly what's in this supposed box.

On the strength of the write up in the last Special Interests on David Gilden's - Texas Chainsaw Dopefiend by Hal Hutchinson I ordered a copy of the tape off Discogs. When I first looked there was nothing available, when I looked a few weeks later this had come up. I am very excited to hear it, I didn't even take the free download off the website. I look forward to getting this bigtime, just got that feeling you do when I read the review.

I hope the box comes into fruition for sure.

I keep waiting for the CD reissue of Texas Chainsaw Dopefiend on Monorail Trespassing, although last May the label said it had been put on hold. I hope it will come out in the not too distant future.

3 tape boxset - Narcotic (Various Noise Works) on Dead Mind Records/Narcolepsia. Looks great, sounds great. Get it!

A CD reissue of Temporary Sedation - originally released on cassette by Lasse Marhaug's TWR Tapes in 1996 - is currently at the pressing plant and will be released on Troniks this summer.

Quote from: pureterror on June 12, 2020, 07:42:48 PM
A CD reissue of Temporary Sedation - originally released on cassette by Lasse Marhaug's TWR Tapes in 1996 - is currently at the pressing plant and will be released on Troniks this summer.

Great news!!

I missed out on the tape set, it sold out quick. But thanks to HH's thing on him in SI, I am grateful for the material I got.

Quote from: pureterror on June 12, 2020, 07:42:48 PM
A CD reissue of Temporary Sedation - originally released on cassette by Lasse Marhaug's TWR Tapes in 1996 - is currently at the pressing plant and will be released on Troniks this summer.

I missed this cd. Didn't expect this to sell out so fast. Will this be repressed or does anybody know where to get a copy? Thanks!

Quote from: impulse manslaughter on September 13, 2020, 08:48:44 PM

Quote from: pureterror on June 12, 2020, 07:42:48 PM
A CD reissue of Temporary Sedation - originally released on cassette by Lasse Marhaug's TWR Tapes in 1996 - is currently at the pressing plant and will be released on Troniks this summer.

I missed this cd. Didn't expect this to sell out so fast. Will this be repressed or does anybody know where to get a copy? Thanks!

No current plans for a repress, though it's now available digitally through Lasse Marhaug's Pica Disk Bandcamp: https://picadisk.bandcamp.com/album/temporary-sedation

I think all the distros that got copies are sold out but a few copies have popped up on Discogs, including a used copy up there right now.

Thanks, bought the one from Discogs.. Indeed, the only copy I could find online.

Can someone in possession of this guy's shit rip it to soulseek? Would appreciate the heck out of ya

Quote from: PuddysJacket on April 09, 2023, 01:17:59 AM
Can someone in possession of this guy's shit rip it to soulseek? Would appreciate the heck out of ya

https://davidgildennoisearchive.weebly.com/recordings/texas-chainsaw-dopefiend

Any comments about the massive Texas Pillbox 18CD Boxset from those who already got it?

Quote from: Manhog_84 on August 07, 2024, 10:30:24 AMAny comments about the massive Texas Pillbox 18CD Boxset from those who already got it?

The packaging/box is high quality and put together very nicely, but have not yet had a chance to completely dive into yet.

Quote from: Cranial Blast on August 09, 2024, 04:47:49 PM

Quote from: Manhog_84 on August 07, 2024, 10:30:24 AMAny comments about the massive Texas Pillbox 18CD Boxset from those who already got it?

The packaging/box is high quality and put together very nicely, but have not yet had a chance to completely dive into yet.

Package is very good /true
But no info  besides tracklist

I'm only about 8 or so discs in at this point out of 18. It's an overwhelming amount of noise, but it's packaged together so well. The range of sound and style varies across all of the material, but it's mostly different approaches to harsh noise. It covers everything from his earliest solo material, bands, and collaborations to later-era efforts.

I actually started with the very last disc which collects compilation tracks from his own solo material, Slave Labor, The Siamese Model, Alfa Jerk, and Depress/Regress. I thought this would actually be a good starting point to become familiar with each project.

I'm very early into the material and have a long way to go, but my current highlights are Total Headrush, the Self-Titled Private Tape on disk III, and the Depress/Regress '95 rehearsal tape.

I just threw on Lingula 4 from disc VII. Very industrial and mechanical loop-focused sounds ala Vivenza which I imagine the cover art of the original release is an homage to. It later develops into great heavy, sparse, and atmospheric metalwork. Might be one of my favorites so far actually.

The Lingula 4 "Unused Mix" on disc VIII reminds me of very early Macronympha. Like Insane Torture Device. It really opens up about half way through or so and gets really really good.

I'm jumping around a little and not listening to everything exactly in order, but the Sawgasm material is up next which is my most anticipated material from the whole box and from what I've read/overhead is holy grail material.

Generally, I think most people are still working their way through it and there is so much material to absorb that it will be a while before there are any in-depth reviews. I'm sure there are some masochistic folks who have somehow listened to it all but maybe it has left them comatose.

Quote from: snakeradical on August 09, 2024, 04:53:30 PM

Quote from: Cranial Blast on August 09, 2024, 04:47:49 PM

Quote from: Manhog_84 on August 07, 2024, 10:30:24 AMAny comments about the massive Texas Pillbox 18CD Boxset from those who already got it?

The packaging/box is high quality and put together very nicely, but have not yet had a chance to completely dive into yet.

Package is very good /true
But no info  besides tracklist

This is a bummer, as Gilden is such an enigmatic figure, some sort of booklet would have been a needed addition. How the box was put together, is discussed in this Noisextra episode: https://www.noisextra.com/2023/04/19/dave-gilden-discussion-with-jim-haras/

Visually it's a beautiful product. The images are quite unusual in context of noise. I like them, there's an obscure and sinister feeling to them.

If talking about the content itself, I'm now through the first seven discs and already think this is one of the best noise boxes. Very varied styles and Lingula tracks go full industrial with clatters and banging metal. Instead of just straight, rugged noise, the second disc Hash Brown tracks are surprisingly rhythmic. They have the same dirty sound and dopefiended samples. I also loved Sawgasm side B with lunatic screams buried in noise.

Listening to Disc X now - Mikadoroid Alternate Source.

Mikadoroid was a collaboration project between David and Akihiro Shimizu of Thirdorgan. Never been fortunate enough to hear the original Mikadoroid tape, however, this has me VERY curious. Really wild sounds on this one. A lot of metal junk clashing, but a lot of oscillations, stereo panning, and flangers. At times feels psychedelic and other times gets very harsh. Does not sound like C.C.C.C. or anything like that, it's very much its own thing. Very out there and weird in the best way. A definite highlight among the first 10 discs even though there are quite a few great releases up to this point already.

[Edit]: Found the original uploaded to YouTube if anyone is interested in checking it out. Again, the version in this box is an alternative version or alternative source material. It's not super clear on the specifics since there aren't any liner notes:

Side A: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dR8zM2iREPI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dR8zM2iREPI)
Side B: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPVgESfzuXk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPVgESfzuXk)

Got the CD box for birthday, needless to say, one of the best presents ever!
But as was already mentioned above - no information about Mr. Gilden himself or about the records in that box.
So is there any information, reviews, interviews or whatever available in old zines or online?
Somebody who knew him in person?
If not, that's ok as well, of course. Not everything has to be revealed. Not wanting to ruminate the old stories.

But also...thank you so much Mr.Fusty Cunt, for making this happen! One of the greatest releases in the past 10 years, at least for me.

I might ne wrong but don't think there's a lot of background information available on his life/work. Richard Ramirez send me some info when I did the Narcotic release a few years ago, but I remember there was very little to work with.

I don't know if I'm adding a lot here, so I'm sorry ahead of time. Any information that Richard shared that is easily acceptable is on the following podcasts. I haven't listened to these in a while but I know he addresses his relationship with Gilden on one or both of the Harsh Truth and Noisextra discussions briefly but I don't remember exactly how far in.

• Harsh Truth Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/episode/5fpSH8jFuh89DFzZo2Loca?si=ff4ff976dda94327
• Noisextra with Black Leather Jesus: https://open.spotify.com/episode/233WAp96pUCAISAnIiukgM?si=9f0a20bea32f48ae
• Noisextra Dave Gilden discussions with Jim Haras: https://open.spotify.com/episode/75OVzmjtLBhkFHp5XVpKQ7?si=bbb3d25beaa84204

Honestly, the most detail revealed was probably in the description of the box set on the Fusty Cunt site:

"I met David Gilden in late 1991 or early 1992 at a local experimental music show. He stood next to me and began a conversation about experimental music and noise. He figured it was a Throbbing Gristle style band.

I gave him my home number and he gave me his. We began talking on the phone soon after. He played work that he had been working on and I did the same. He asked if I was in "metal" and I said "no". Most of the time when I'd call him his Mom would answer and usually David was in his room recording. He recorded a lot and also did variations on a single recording session. He'd rework some or did layering to some of his work.

I was getting together a noisefest in Houston and asked him to perform at it in 1992. After seeing a solo performance of his, I felt our style in noise was similar and soon I had asked him to join Black Leather Jesus. He was very opinionated on others' work and at times was not easy to get along with. As many know, he had substance abuse issues which also caused some arguments within BLJ especially with other members.

Many times at a BLJ show, Gilden was so immersed in the performance, he would keep going when the rest of the band were done.

During our recordings session as Slave Labor or Lingula, David would like to plan out a recording whereas I'd like to just press record and go. This led to disagreements with what we wanted to do with the projects. David could be a perfectionist at times and his "creative fuel" would get in the way of finishing work.

Some Slave Labor recordings would include Macronympha as well. David and I briefly did a project called The Siamese Model and Noise!Noise!Noise!

His addiction got in the way. Our relationship became very volatile at this point. Not long after he entered rehab again in 1997, we went our separate ways and never spoke again.

Gilden was an amazing noise artist and sadly was overlooked during his active years. It's great to see people appreciate his work today. I do miss the good times we had recording and performing together."

-Richard Ramirez

Question for those who have managed to listen to the whole box, or at least the majority of it, from someone considering whether its worth picking up. Is the level of quality pretty consistently high throughout? Thinking of the Skin Crime box as a point of reference...which is a pretty high bar, certainly (maybe one disk out of the 20 didn't grab me, and even that one had a few good tracks), but certainly don't want something with 30% amazing material/70% filler.

Quote from: BatteredStatesofEuphoria on September 17, 2024, 09:52:59 PMQuestion for those who have managed to listen to the whole box, or at least the majority of it, from someone considering whether its worth picking up. Is the level of quality pretty consistently high throughout? Thinking of the Skin Crime box as a point of reference...which is a pretty high bar, certainly (maybe one disk out of the 20 didn't grab me, and even that one had a few good tracks), but certainly don't want something with 30% amazing material/70% filler.

Worth picking up for sure. First seven or eight discs were excellent, but after that, there were some less hard hitting and more experimental stuff. It became better again towards the end. The sound was consistently rugged and tasty though. Skin Crime box is THE noise box, so I didn't expect this to be directly comparable.

Quote from: Manhog_84 on September 22, 2024, 08:24:32 PM

Quote from: BatteredStatesofEuphoria on September 17, 2024, 09:52:59 PMQuestion for those who have managed to listen to the whole box, or at least the majority of it, from someone considering whether its worth picking up. Is the level of quality pretty consistently high throughout? Thinking of the Skin Crime box as a point of reference...which is a pretty high bar, certainly (maybe one disk out of the 20 didn't grab me, and even that one had a few good tracks), but certainly don't want something with 30% amazing material/70% filler.

Worth picking up for sure. First seven or eight discs were excellent, but after that, there were some less hard hitting and more experimental stuff. It became better again towards the end. The sound was consistently rugged and tasty though. Skin Crime box is THE noise box, so I didn't expect this to be directly comparable.

Exactly like that. His discography is not all just Texas Chainsaw Dopefiend and the box very clearly shows this. There is a lot of harsh noise but also a few more experimental releases that have clearly been recorded while on (lots of?) drugs. It's a beautiful box, it contains plenty of very good harsh noise of which most would be pretty much impossible to get elsewhere so I'd say it is very much worth the money. Not as mind blowing as the Skin Crime box but if you use that as a minimum reference you will end up buying nothing else.

Listening to Disc XIII now - Depress/Regress Bag (Demo)

Every single Depress/Regress release in the box has been really solid to great.

This one is no different. One 55:35 track. Old school fill up a c60 style unending marathon noise. Kind of a swirling mass obfuscating an underbelly of metalwork, sweeping electronic textures, and occasional industrial loops. Harsh but not overtly and almost surreal/experimental and slightly psychedelic in some areas.

It makes me think of the scene in The Wizard of Oz when Dorothy's house gets picked up in the tornado, it's the height of her fever kicking off, she is hallucinating, and this kind of feels like a slightly malevolent fever dream. A tornado of sounds whipping around. There is a very present almost whooshing of sounds at the forefront of this one. Actually the kind of dark and gothic artwork throughout the release captures the sound on this one very well.

As the piece develops, there are more abrupt cuts where things shift and David adds some more crunch, adds and substracts different effects and sound sources. Overall though it's one mass congealing and swirling piece. A unique and fun listen!

Slave Labour box! God damn this 4xCD SET is good. If you live in USA, ordering from DADA DRUMMING should be cheap and easy. In Europe, you might need to make some inquiries.
I was just talking with friend about times when 4xCD was the major box. Think of metalvelodrome, neverending story of king of noise, k2 box, etc. 4xCD is the thing. Not album, not too massive. Slave Labour set played through in blink of an eye! More listenings only proved it has plenty to offer.
I am of course in favor of Gilden box in a way that its good it was done. I dont have it yet. I have this question of approach : is it archive or is it for listening?
4xCD is for listening!
I got several huge boxes consisting 10-50 CDS and I know for a fact, I aint pulling them out from shelves in a way I would do for release that is for LISTENING.

I've now listened to 16 discs of 18 and I think it's more of a listening box than an archival box, but this is a high-quality release of a previously under-represented artist that's now been properly documented.

It's not the Skin Crime or Incapacitants box, and what is? And not every release is Texas Chainsaw Dopefiend by any means.

Here are all of the releases that I think are more than worth your time and make the box worthwhile:

• David Gilden - Total Headrush   
• David Gilden - Self Titled Private Tape (Disk III)
• Sawgasm
• Lingula - 4
• Lingula - 4 Unused Mix
• Depress / Regress - Rehearsal 5/15/98
• Depress / Regress - Last Noise Tape
• David Gilden - Mikadoroid Alternate Source
• Depress / Regress - Bag (Demo)
• Depress / Regress - Root Penetration
• David Gilden - Depress-Regress   
• David Gilden - Magico-ritual   

There are a few splits or more experimental releases in between these that are OK to good, but there are far more high-quality releases than not. For an artist who was previously lost to time despite a few reissues, it's wild that we have this much material now.

Jim did an absolutely incredible job restoring David's previously unknown catalog which was discussed and on most people's wish lists for two decades. Absolutely unfathomable that Jim pulled this off and made it available to the general public.

I saw posts on the board about this being worked on as early as 2018, and I'm sure it was even earlier than that. Thanks Jim!

At first look I was pleasantly surprised of Gilden box set's physical appearance. It looks more like some Mario Bava DVD-collection. I miss some comprehensive booklet as well.
Bought myself this as 'slightly damaged' for discounted price but I see no damages (unless you count protective shrink's few holes as a damage).

Quote from: Marko-V on October 03, 2024, 10:50:02 PMAt first look I was pleasantly surprised of Gilden box set's physical appearance. It looks more like some Mario Bava DVD-collection. I miss some comprehensive booklet as well.
Bought myself this as 'slightly damaged' for discounted price but I see no damages (unless you count protective shrink's few holes as a damage).

I 2nd that notion of being "Mario Bava" box in appearance. Very well described as such. I think that is a fitting description of the box, especially in regards to the appearance of it, definitely has that cult horror flick vibe about it.

Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on December 30, 2015, 06:28:06 PMTape on TWR is not as good as Texas Chainsaw Dopefiend or Depress-Regress.

Currently listening to said tape (albeit, the reissued version on Troniks).  Certainly a different flavor from Texas Chainsaw, but I would not put it a peg below it honestly.  I think I actually enjoy this one much more than Depress-Regress even.