Self inflicted freak and Britains biggest mouth Porridge has had an unexpected spout of good sense and quit sad reunion act TG. Goodbye nostalgia shit and goodbye TG. You diluted your once respectable catalogue for far too long. One down but still thousands to go. Lets hear it for Swans next.
http://thequietus.com/articles/05198-genesis-p-orridge-quits-throbbing-gristle
Hold it now, wait! There's more. The remaining three will carry on as X-TG. Amazing! These people have no shame. Is this the kind of humiliation people enjoy when they get old? If so then kill me before I get there.
I think that GPO saw again when CARTER fucked his COSEY in hotel room before live set. Yes, this reunion as X-TG is funny, total shit, even PINK FLOYD have bigger honour...
At least Pink Floyd charged millions when humiliating themselves in their old age. What does TG earn? Not enough to make it worth the shame I'm sure. I probably come across as angry when I write this (I do most of the time) but I've chuckled over this all day.
Dear Sleazey, Chris and Cosey, kill yourselves before it's too late. Fuck it. It's already too late, just kill yourselves.
This tune sums up the debacle best: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8vINCq_IAI&feature=related
Quote from: TheGreatEcstasy on October 29, 2010, 09:27:28 PMGoodbye nostalgia shit and goodbye TG. You diluted your once respectable catalogue for far too long. One down but still thousands to go.
One hundred percent agree. The nostalgia cabaret good-old-fucking-days mentality has to die. TG re-uniting to play places like the Tate Modern is beyond joke.
uh sorry, saw swans last night and they fucking killed it. you can talk all the shit you want, but they're doing great now. tg live on the other hand was an hour of bs and 20 minutes of quality music.
Yeah. I did buy the new Swans LP. But haven't had any intentions to buy any of the TG new stuff.
Although barely followed either of them.
World is so full of miserable failures of "comebacks" where it seems clear that the people lost the spark long ago. They may think they do the "same" or "better", but those who actually listen such music, hear the difference?
I like TG's recent output, and I'll probably like X-TG if I ever get a chance to see them. I wonder if the Desertshore album is canceled now?
i have no problems going to see old goofy relics play , be it x-tg or some forgotten drunk italian pop singer .
i'll see x-tg tonight , i'll let you know if they sucked or not..
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on October 30, 2010, 10:19:10 AM
Yeah. I did buy the new Swans LP. But haven't had any intentions to buy any of the TG new stuff.
Although barely followed either of them.
World is so full of miserable failures of "comebacks" where it seems clear that the people lost the spark long ago. They may think they do the "same" or "better", but those who actually listen such music, hear the difference?
How was the new Swans ?
Saw M. Gira few years ago in Tampere and it was complete failure
I thought their show in Philadelphia last month was excellent. Everyone in the band seemed completely confident and at ease with their instruments. It was great to hear revamped versions of their early material too. Tracks from Filth and Cop and I think Holy Money. Loud as hell. However their newer stuff is good but doesn't come close to the early '80s material.
Apparently "s/he" hasn't left TG at all.
http://www.genesisbreyerporridge.com/homepage.html (http://www.genesisbreyerporridge.com/homepage.html)
Starting to think it's a bit of a wind up.
Show in Bologna , Italy was good . Usual low frequency abuse and sounds from their latest works . Nothing to complain about .
It could be worse... They could be The Rolling Stones.
Rolling Stones got old and boring but they never split up. They also made enough money to never have to work again but have carried on in spite of ridicule and old age. They are a big commercial group who never made any pledges of not selling out and so forth. My assessment is they actually must love what they are doing. No shame in that at all.
TG, Swans and many others quit after big bust ups and bold promises of never again, mission accomplished, we are dead etc. These are underground flagships who in their time stood for something very different to boring rockbands like the Rolling Stones. While me and my teenage friends laughed at the likes of them in the 80's we took comfort in knowing that heroes like TG and Swans would never become that pathetic. Well here we are 25 years later and the reunions just keep coming. Old heroes diluting their once vital catalogues with worthless albums and tarnishing their names with tours where they regurgitate old hits to people whose main excuse for supporting this sad circus is "I never got the chance to see them in the good old days". Then let me tell you you're not seeing them now either. The good old days are gone and this is just a reanimated corpse in front of you, at best an echo of the past, a NOSTALGIA ACT. And these has beens humiliate themselves for a lot less money than Rolling Stones, probably not even enough to secure a comfortable retirement. But so called fans of underground music swallow the same reunion turd time and time again. The saddest thing is people have less time for new groups trying to build something because they just HAVE to see St Vitus next month or go to Supersonic to see Godflesh/Swans and then there's God Speed You Black Emperor at ATP of course. The Rolling Stones aren't a problem. Groups like them don't matter. The problem are the once important underground bands who piss on their legacy and clog up the system. It's a sad state of affairs.
From Porridge's website, here's the bit I like -
QuoteAs soon as we have composed a written version of what series of events we believe led to my feeling unable to remain part of THIS short tour by the re-grouped TG that feels acceptable we will post it here.
- that, after a spew about the big, bad internet spreading rumours. For fuck's sake man, just spit it out. Did you miss a plane? Did have have a blue with someone? Are you so much of an "artist" that you can't even give a simple explanation for missing out on gigs with your own fucking band? This is why I think the whole thing's a wind-up. He must have gotten a few solid hints that his involvement wasn't much more than cosmetic so decided to "show them" by pulling out of the rest of the tour and instead found that his involvement really wasn't much more than cosmetic. If there's a contract with the promoters that the full, original line up of TG was promised then he's broken it.
Genesis always seems to get the flak for his drama queen behaviour, yet Chris Carter has been known to throw hissy fits and spectacular passive-aggressive antics too. Don't know about the other two.
Personally I think GP-O with his atrocious singing, cracked ideas and bizarre appearance is/was the only interesting thing left in TG, who now make safe coffee table versions of their old stuff with Carter's Tangerine Dream fixation more apparent than ever. Just my opinion!
sleazy died last night.
The mission is now terminated.
Anyone hear what the cause of death was? I read that he died in his sleep, but he was only 55 years old so that is somewhat odd.
The following was posted to the Coil mailing list by someone who knew Sleazy well, and visited him in Thailand recently. Make of it what you want...
"From what I understand, Sleaz had a very long and busy, happy day of work. Later that night he had an even more enjoyable and happy evening, falling asleep when all was good. Early that morning he was unresponsive to houseboys, apparently dying of a suspected heart attack whilst deep in post coital slumber. The only way to go, I'm sure."
I picture him as a Col. Kurtz type character, except gay and surrounded by a harem of Thai ladyboys.
That Coil DVD boxset he put together that came out recently is mind-bending. Was anyone here obsessed and rich enough to get one of those?
Since Sleazy will no longer be around to handle Threshold House, I wonder what the fate of all that material will be. It would be nice if some of those Coil releases would get better distribution. I still haven't bought the Musick to Play In The Dark CDs because I don't really feel like spending $50 for two discs.
Quote from: RG on November 27, 2010, 06:49:06 AM
That Coil DVD boxset he put together that came out recently is mind-bending. Was anyone here obsessed and rich enough to get one of those?
Since Sleazy will no longer be around to handle Threshold House, I wonder what the fate of all that material will be. It would be nice if some of those Coil releases would get better distribution. I still haven't bought the Musick to Play In The Dark CDs because I don't really feel like spending $50 for two discs.
a very good friend of mine has been working for quite a while on a cd box of reissues of ALL of coil's old material. everything was to be released on double-disc, with the second disc containing outtakes and unreleased tracks. everything would then afterwards be available individually for a nice price. not only was he an immense fan of coil, he was a close friend of peter and he will under no circumstances allow coil's legacy to fade away due to lack of reissues. things may be significantly slowed down as a result of his death, but coil material will still be available to those who want it for a long time.