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GENERAL SOUND DISCUSSION => GENERAL SOUND DISCUSSION => Topic started by: cr on November 18, 2016, 10:27:38 PM

Title: RRRecords - Recycled tapes
Post by: cr on November 18, 2016, 10:27:38 PM
Only got maybe 15 tapes out of these series. Just received some directly from Ron. Postage to Europe was horrible. But so far, I can say it was worth it, they are great. Just listened to FFH and Skin Graft and now for the second time, Eugenics Council.   

I think it's great idea overall.
So what's your favourite Recycled Tapes and how do you think about the concept, if at all?
Title: Re: RRRecords - Recycled tapes
Post by: magnus on November 18, 2016, 11:35:16 PM
I like the Kazumoto Endo one!
Title: Re: RRRecords - Recycled tapes
Post by: F_c_O on November 18, 2016, 11:51:24 PM
gerogerigegege is the best in the series.
Title: Re: RRRecords - Recycled tapes
Post by: pentd on November 19, 2016, 03:10:28 AM
got a Runzelstirn & Gurgelstock thing which is recycled on such a crapp tape that it's quite a chore to listen to, argh... Kazumoto Endo tape is great, Haare tape is, well, "classic" haare mud. don't have more than those...
Title: Re: RRRecords - Recycled tapes
Post by: a_2_g_2 on November 19, 2016, 06:17:15 AM
Quote from: F_c_O on November 18, 2016, 11:51:24 PM
gerogerigegege is the best in the series.
Isnt it just some Cambodian pop music?
Title: Re: RRRecords - Recycled tapes
Post by: Mieczko K. on November 19, 2016, 09:03:18 AM
Somehow, the Recycled VOMIR tape is my favourite VOMIR release. I also love the ones from Brume & L'Autopsie A Révélé Que La Mort Était Due A L'Autopsie.
To do a bit of self-promotion, I'm still really proud of the Recycled Trou tape.

Some other nice tapes I own : Goat93, Rat with Wings, Baal, Haare, Doc Wör Mirran & Destroyed Music.

Not a huge fan of Con-Dom & Content Nullity. They did way better stuff.


That reminds me I need to order a new batch one day, I'll keep an eye on that discussion !
Title: Re: RRRecords - Recycled tapes
Post by: F_c_O on November 19, 2016, 09:22:11 AM
Quote from: a_2_g_2 on November 19, 2016, 06:17:15 AM
Quote from: F_c_O on November 18, 2016, 11:51:24 PM
gerogerigegege is the best in the series.
Isnt it just some Cambodian pop music?
yes

Okay, to make this more than another shitpost, I have some recycled tapes. Saddly, I dont own as many as I would want to because money is a reality of life. The few I have I enjoy but then they cut out and you start hearing sounds of cars and someone walking around a room. I am not entirely sure if this is part of the tape or if ron just recorded something at the end because the tapes were too long compared to the material that was sent in by the artists. I am leaning on that theory but I would like to hear some kind of confirmation on this, hehe.
Title: Re: RRRecords - Recycled tapes
Post by: NO PART OF IT on November 19, 2016, 09:42:54 AM
I have probably close to 50 of these suckers.

Favorites are:  

De Fabriek
Death Factory
Nmperign
Aaron Dilloway
Andrew Kirschner
Zone Nord
Headboggle
Xper.Xr
Clang Quartet
R & G
Sudden Infant (although my tape is too short)
Smell & Quim
Con-Dom
Burning Star Core
Haare
Buddhist on Fire (recommended)
Developer
Reynols
Relay for Death
Sterile Garden
Mike Shiflet
Wolf Eyes
Wilt (rare harsh noise from WILT)
Ataraxic Ataxia

I played recycled tapes for 6 hours on the radio before:
http://posterityplaylists.blogspot.com/2014/02/rrrecycled-5-hours.html
Title: Re: RRRecords - Recycled tapes
Post by: cr on November 19, 2016, 10:22:05 AM
Was just looking through my shelves and noticed that I had an exaggerated imagination about the number of my tapes. Not 15, just 10. Seems I'm getting old ;)

Masonna
Hal Hutchinson
The Rita
Eugenics Council
FFH
Skin Graft
Con-Dom
Grunt
Prurient
Taint
Title: Re: RRRecords - Recycled tapes
Post by: Steve on November 19, 2016, 03:21:17 PM
I've only got a handful, but they are all excellent :

Neil Campbell.
Duncan Harrison.
Smell & Quim.
Textured Bird Transmission.

Should get some more really.
Is anyone familiar with Hyster Tapes of Helsinki? Great sounds on recycled tapes.
Title: Re: RRRecords - Recycled tapes
Post by: Mieczko K. on November 19, 2016, 03:34:52 PM
Quote from: F_c_O on November 19, 2016, 09:22:11 AM
Quote from: a_2_g_2 on November 19, 2016, 06:17:15 AM
Quote from: F_c_O on November 18, 2016, 11:51:24 PM
gerogerigegege is the best in the series.
Isnt it just some Cambodian pop music?
yes

Okay, to make this more than another shitpost, I have some recycled tapes. Saddly, I dont own as many as I would want to because money is a reality of life. The few I have I enjoy but then they cut out and you start hearing sounds of cars and someone walking around a room. I am not entirely sure if this is part of the tape or if ron just recorded something at the end because the tapes were too long compared to the material that was sent in by the artists. I am leaning on that theory but I would like to hear some kind of confirmation on this, hehe.

Bad sound, but never heard anything else than the noise on the tape, nothing related to the previous content.


Quote from: NO PART OF IT on November 19, 2016, 09:42:54 AM
I played recycled tapes for 6 hours on the radio before:
http://posterityplaylists.blogspot.com/2014/02/rrrecycled-5-hours.html

Awesome, no I know what I'll listen next week at work.
Title: Re: RRRecords - Recycled tapes
Post by: pentd on November 19, 2016, 11:30:00 PM
Quote from: Steve on November 19, 2016, 03:21:17 PM
nyone familiar with Hyster Tapes of Helsinki? Great sounds on recycled tapes.

here, catch: http://www.pcuf.fi/~plaa/hyster.html
varropas (?lo-fi "jam band?) + keijo (?broken blues?)  stuff is recommended 

now back to topic!
Title: Re: RRRecords - Recycled tapes
Post by: chume on November 22, 2016, 09:12:27 AM
The grunt tape rules
Title: Re: RRRecords - Recycled tapes
Post by: Deadpriest on January 19, 2017, 07:30:25 PM
I love the concept too, really cool to own, the Merzbow, Taint, Grunt and Kazumoto Endo ones are killer.
Title: Re: RRRecords - Recycled tapes
Post by: F_c_O on January 19, 2017, 07:38:45 PM
Quote from: Mieczko K. on November 19, 2016, 03:34:52 PM
Quote from: F_c_O on November 19, 2016, 09:22:11 AM
Quote from: a_2_g_2 on November 19, 2016, 06:17:15 AM
Quote from: F_c_O on November 18, 2016, 11:51:24 PM
gerogerigegege is the best in the series.
Isnt it just some Cambodian pop music?
yes

Okay, to make this more than another shitpost, I have some recycled tapes. Saddly, I dont own as many as I would want to because money is a reality of life. The few I have I enjoy but then they cut out and you start hearing sounds of cars and someone walking around a room. I am not entirely sure if this is part of the tape or if ron just recorded something at the end because the tapes were too long compared to the material that was sent in by the artists. I am leaning on that theory but I would like to hear some kind of confirmation on this, hehe.

Bad sound, but never heard anything else than the noise on the tape, nothing related to the previous content.
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For me, the noise stops but the tape continues. I figured it might be that when using recycled tapes, you cant dictate the tapes lenght and its just something to fill out the end of the tape if the tape is longer than the noise.
Title: Re: RRRecords - Recycled tapes
Post by: Deadpriest on January 20, 2017, 10:50:50 AM
For me, the noise stops but the tape continues. I figured it might be that when using recycled tapes, you cant dictate the tapes lenght and its just something to fill out the end of the tape if the tape is longer than the noise.
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You're right.
Title: Re: RRRecords - Recycled tapes
Post by: Mieczko K. on January 24, 2017, 11:07:40 PM
I've got a few in distro for european costumers.
Title: Re: RRRecords - Recycled tapes
Post by: shearling on April 24, 2017, 09:23:44 PM
Anyone have a link to the FFH one?
Title: Re: RRRecords - Recycled tapes
Post by: Johann on April 25, 2017, 02:23:02 AM
https://www.discogs.com/FFH-Recycled-Music/release/610149

If you order from RRR site I think he does some sort of deal on them, can't remember. But Ron runs a class Mailorder
Title: Re: RRRecords - Recycled tapes
Post by: ashraf on March 07, 2019, 09:43:36 PM
Bumping this thread for more recent recommendations. It makes me so happy that RRRon keeps these (and Pure cds) in print. I want to order a big batch of both.
Title: Re: RRRecords - Recycled tapes
Post by: Cementimental on March 08, 2019, 12:11:41 AM
Realised a little while back that the Cementimental recycled tape is no longer on the RRR site. Quick bit of detective work on archive.org and it seems like it vanished from the catalog back in 2013!? I emailed Ron to ask what's up but no reply. I can only assume it was somehow related to the great Troniks forum meltdown but I can't remember him saying anything about it at the time and I genuinely don't remember trolling him hard enough to warrent deleting my release... :-? At least no worse than other people whose recycled tapes are are still up there. :D

Anyone know anything about this? No massive deal but seems weird. Might even be an accidental deletion from the list I suppose. Anyway if it really is out of print then I'm in good company with the Gerogerigegege at least...
Title: Re: RRRecords - Recycled tapes
Post by: Mieczko K. on March 08, 2019, 09:26:03 AM
Quote from: Cementimental on March 08, 2019, 12:11:41 AM
Realised a little while back that the Cementimental recycled tape is no longer on the RRR site. Quick bit of detective work on archive.org and it seems like it vanished from the catalog back in 2013!? I emailed Ron to ask what's up but no reply. I can only assume it was somehow related to the great Troniks forum meltdown but I can't remember him saying anything about it at the time and I genuinely don't remember trolling him hard enough to warrent deleting my release... :-? At least no worse than other people whose recycled tapes are are still up there. :D

Anyone know anything about this? No massive deal but seems weird. Might even be an accidental deletion from the list I suppose. Anyway if it really is out of print then I'm in good company with the Gerogerigegege at least...

Then I guess my goal to have em all is doomed to fail :(

Quote from: ashraf on March 07, 2019, 09:43:36 PM
Bumping this thread for more recent recommendations. It makes me so happy that RRRon keeps these (and Pure cds) in print. I want to order a big batch of both.

Some shameless self-promotion here, but I'm still very please by the Trou tape released by RRRon. Also the tape from "L'Autopsie A Révélé Que La Mort Était Due A L'Autopsie" was excellent. In the "less recent category", I have good memories of the Peiiste tape, and the Vomir tape is probably my favourite Vomir release.
Title: Re: RRRecords - Recycled tapes
Post by: Cementimental on March 08, 2019, 11:44:31 AM
Quote from: Mieczko K. on March 08, 2019, 09:26:03 AM

Then I guess my goal to have em all is doomed to fail :(

I think I still have a spare copy if you are interested :)
Title: Re: RRRecords - Recycled tapes
Post by: Thor on March 08, 2019, 02:50:27 PM
I'm guessing that ordering a batch from europe isn't cheap. Is there a euro distro which stocks the recycled tapes?
Title: Re: RRRecords - Recycled tapes
Post by: FreakAnimalFinland on March 08, 2019, 09:24:35 PM
Quote from: Thor on March 08, 2019, 02:50:27 PM
I'm guessing that ordering a batch from europe isn't cheap. Is there a euro distro which stocks the recycled tapes?

Not Many, but i recall couple at freak Animal. I just restocked almost all pure/rrr cds that are available. One can buy them for 6,- each and 8 fits for 5€ international shipping... great cds, not bad price...
Title: Re: RRRecords - Recycled tapes
Post by: Johann on March 09, 2019, 09:53:40 AM
I do not think Ron is personally slighting anyone by certain tapes or cds no longer being available, it could just be dubbing more is no longer convenient (due to poor interest) or the master is hidden/lost. I've contacted him about various pure CDs being told they were no longer stocked. And honestly given the state of things, especially with Discogs can you blame him? Most of this stuff is available still at very reasonable prices and he's been forced to sell at lower prices on Discogs than on his own site.

I don't personally know Ron, but I assume like everyone participation ebbs and flows, hope he finds passion again soon in performing and releasing...RRR is one of the greats.

Are there even any "new" recycled tapes in the last few years?
Title: Re: RRRecords - Recycled tapes
Post by: Baglady on March 09, 2019, 10:14:53 AM
Quote from: Johann on March 09, 2019, 09:53:40 AM
Are there even any "new" recycled tapes in the last few years?
Yes, there are. But they're not many. I believe a Limbs Bin Recycled tape was released a month ago or so?
Title: Re: RRRecords - Recycled tapes
Post by: Hakaristi on March 09, 2019, 01:30:08 PM
Hymenal Opening and Flagellatio Orgasmus ones recently too.
Title: Re: RRRecords - Recycled tapes
Post by: Cementimental on March 09, 2019, 09:46:49 PM
Quote from: Johann on March 09, 2019, 09:53:40 AM
I do not think Ron is personally slighting anyone by certain tapes or cds no longer being available, it could just be dubbing more is no longer convenient (due to poor interest) or the master is hidden/lost.
Yes it's possible i'm just being paranoid. :) pretty sure I couldn't have any less interest than quite a few of the other names released around that time who are still up tho :D
Title: Re: RRRecords - Recycled tapes
Post by: aububs on March 09, 2019, 11:55:16 PM
i'd like an up to date pic of rrron's cubic block of noise tapes
Title: Re: RRRecords - Recycled tapes
Post by: Mieczko K. on March 11, 2019, 10:06:35 AM
Quote from: Thor on March 08, 2019, 02:50:27 PM
I'm guessing that ordering a batch from europe isn't cheap. Is there a euro distro which stocks the recycled tapes?


Shipping is quite brutal indeed. I've ordrered 2 times small batch for distro, I've got 6 titles available for distro in europe.
Title: Re: RRRecords - Recycled tapes
Post by: Cementimental on August 23, 2019, 02:30:24 PM
Just re-released my deleted Recycled tape: https://cementimental.bandcamp.com/album/rrre-recycled

(https://i.imgur.com/iMJh0vH.jpg)
Title: Re: RRRecords - Recycled tapes
Post by: NO PART OF IT on August 23, 2019, 05:56:09 PM
Quote from: NO PART OF IT on November 19, 2016, 09:42:54 AM
I have probably close to 50 of these suckers.

Favorites are:  

De Fabriek
Death Factory
Nmperign
Aaron Dilloway
Andrew Kirschner
Zone Nord
Headboggle
Xper.Xr
Clang Quartet
R & G
Sudden Infant (although my tape is too short)
Smell & Quim
Con-Dom
Burning Star Core
Haare
Buddhist on Fire (recommended)
Developer
Reynols
Relay for Death
Sterile Garden
Mike Shiflet
Wolf Eyes
Wilt (rare harsh noise from WILT)
Ataraxic Ataxia

I played recycled tapes for 6 hours on the radio before:
http://posterityplaylists.blogspot.com/2014/02/rrrecycled-5-hours.html

Link updated:
http://thedeliriousinsomniac.blogspot.com/2014/02/rrrecycled-5-hours.html
Title: Re: RRRecords - Recycled tapes
Post by: FreakAnimalFinland on August 24, 2019, 08:39:55 AM
It would be nice to know what is in each recycled tape. I had impression that not all is the band itself, but RRRon playing/mixing some sort of session out of their albums? I could be wrong, but it should be just few old names. Most should be artists submitting material.

Grunt RRRecycled is live in turku 2004 + acoustic noise material from seer of decay disc 2 sessions (but does not appear on the album).
Title: Re: RRRecords - Recycled tapes
Post by: monster ripper on August 24, 2019, 04:50:26 PM
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on August 24, 2019, 08:39:55 AM
It would be nice to know what is in each recycled tape. I had impression that not all is the band itself, but RRRon playing/mixing some sort of session out of their albums? I could be wrong, but it should be just few old names. Most should be artists submitting material

Most (if not all) of the first batch of tapes was Ron playing other peoples records on the Minutoli, similar to the first batch of Pure cds.  There's at least one that I know of that's somebody else pretending to be the band it's listed as. There's quite a few more deleted titles then the ones listed in the threads, and a few that have had the material replaced due to either a damaged master, or by request of the artist.  Also pretty sure there's a few titles that he only made a handful of and sold in the shop and never got listed in any of the catalogs, and at least two "unofficial" releases that where done by other people and made to look like official recycled tapes.  Would be great to see somebody write a history of the series, but I doubt even Ron remembers all of them at this point.........
Title: Re: RRRecords - Recycled tapes
Post by: MyrtleLake on August 24, 2019, 05:53:16 PM
I have always been under the impression a major conceit of the series is to provide an inexpensive way to tempt listeners into trying new music without the trappings of overt subject matter (no visuals, no titles, no initial associations and expectations). Due to both Discogs and streaming services, a lot of that purpose is moot today. The 'new music' aspect is not lost, though, when the date is listed. For example, I know there are Hymenal Opening and Flagellatio Orgasmus Tapes which are quite new. I would encourage bands that release in the series going forward to post the date issued. That would be an incentive to try it from the encyclopedic selection available and keep the series going. Just a thought.
Title: Re: RRRecords - Recycled tapes
Post by: k.p.g on February 27, 2025, 05:29:46 PM
A couple entries into the series I have not seen mentioned yet, but absolutely deserve your attention:

Kites
+DOG+
Daylight Savings T.X.
Loop Retard
Due Process (my personal favorite)
Graveyard Crows
Bastard Noise
twodeadsluts onegoodfuck


Buying Recycled tapes is like buying candy sometimes; a cheap and quick fix that can leave you either completely satisfied or sick to your stomach.  Some tapes have too much bleed from the original tape, which can either make or break them - my Haters tape sort of benefits from having that WaxTrax rhythm beneath it, while my Skin Crime tape suffers as a result. 
As much as it is insane idea to try and be completionist with a series like this, it is only a matter of time before RRRon stops or some titles give like the Crawl Unit one last year.  If there is ever one you have had the hankering to hear, might be wise to take the hit and purchase it.