Am I missing something?
On paper, this genre sounds excellent, but in practice comes across so dry, boring, stale. I have only listened to a few martial releases but have been less than impressed with all of it. Can some of you provide me with some insight or essential projects/releases of the genre?
Some suggestions
Karjalan Sissit
Wappenbund
maybe Linija Mass for the strong industrial element
Triarii
Arditi
Sophia. Probably the only project in the genre I have time for, mainly because of the deeper, slower use of samples I suppose. The first, self named album is fantastic to my ears.
how is it described on paper? i've only heard of Sturmfuhrer and it was pretty boring.
Older Der Blutharsch, Von Thronstahl and Karjalan Sissit are pretty good. But it's quite an crappy genre overall imo.
Quote from: blimp on November 23, 2010, 07:40:59 AM
how is it described on paper?
It's always been described to me as moody, militaristic, fascist-influenced narrative sounds.
Yes, I checked out Sturmfuhrer and I could not get into as hard as I tried.
Thank you for the suggestions, I have a great deal to look into.
Nobody has mentioned the roots
Romanha
Old Autopsia
Early In the nursery
Laibach (nuova akropola/opus dei/volk)
Early Test department
Non - In the shadow of the sword
Or In Slaughter Natives
Quote from: tiny_tove on November 23, 2010, 10:33:21 AM
Laibach (nuova akropola/opus dei/volk)
Early Test department
These would be my choices for martial industrial. But can you really call it all the same genre? Laibach was using martial themes as an elaborate prank mocking fascism, whereas the modern projects like Sturmfuhrer tend to be a lot more literally pro-fascist, unless I have been misinformed.
I would have thought Laibach would have gone without saying; show me a Martial group that doesn't owe anything to them. As for early Test Department, pure Industrial.
Turbund Sturmwerk
A classic. The same title album and Weltenbrand are must own of the martial/industrial genre. Essentials!
Quote from: Brad on November 23, 2010, 12:43:52 PM
Quote from: tiny_tove on November 23, 2010, 10:33:21 AM
Laibach (nuova akropola/opus dei/volk)
Early Test department
These would be my choices for martial industrial. But can you really call it all the same genre? Laibach was using martial themes as an elaborate prank mocking fascism, whereas the modern projects like Sturmfuhrer tend to be a lot more literally pro-fascist, unless I have been misinformed.
I am not referring to Sturmfhurer, but most of the projects quotes in this post are not active politically. They are more prone to extreme drunkeness and party.
Quote from: blimp on November 23, 2010, 07:40:59 AM
how is it described on paper? i've only heard of Sturmfuhrer and it was pretty boring.
As such:
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Martial Industrial, also known as martial music, is a music genre originating in late 20th century Europe. It often borrows musically from classical music, neofolk, neoclassical, traditional European marches and from elements of industrial and dark ambient.
"Themes range from pounding, percussive soundtrack-like music to rally-worthy dark parade music to cabaret appropriate sexually-charged carnal declarations to mournful marches. Essentially, anything that could be made with traditional European martial instrumentation relating to the artists within this genre could be considered a part of this musical movement."I can't get into Martial/Martial Industrial/Crypto Fascist/whatever, either. Everything I have heard is very drab and uninspired.
One of the funniest things I've seen was Der Blutharsch perform in Brooklyn. Torches, puffy pants, a woman reading a fucking scroll... HALIRIOUS!
I like Turbund Sturmwerk & Markus Wolff's project who I can't think of the name right now. Old Allerseelen (sp?) is good.
waldteufel ;)
Roots of Martial Industrial:
Role-playing nerds in fake silk ropes getting assaulted by underage immigrant gangs in Scandinavian concrete suburbs.
That would make for a great field recording BTW
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on November 23, 2010, 12:49:15 PM
As for early Test Department, pure Industrial.
Mid-career Test Department is sometimes more on the martial side, though. Albums like
Gododdin,
Proven in Action.
Arditi / Puissance
Exemtum
Triarii
been listening to so much martial industrial lately, when it's good it's great. it's almost like Neofolk, the deeper you go the worse it gets.
Really liking that Straight Arm Salute - Teachings In Traditionalism album. For me that is a fine example of Martial Industrial synthesis.
Both Predella Avant's albums (self titled and Carbon Figures) were really good.
Quote from: BlackCavendish on May 22, 2024, 11:40:47 AMBoth Predella Avant's albums (self titled and Carbon Figures) were really good.
Indeed. Totally understimted.
I've been a fan of Triarii, some Arditi, Von Thronstahl, but I've never been able to fully delve deeply into the genre. It seems oddly limited, and I'm not certain why.
I dunno - maybe only so many martial patterns they can use?
Actually, one martial project I really did like was Kraschau. Hungarian lad, into his monarchist stuff, but also a lot of Spanish samples. Quite abrasive in many ways, too. Generally pretty heavy, and very good. Sadly defunct now, but did release a "remix" CD last year.
Quote from: burdizzo1 on May 30, 2024, 12:51:21 PMI dunno - maybe only so many martial patterns they can use?
Actually, one martial project I really did like was Kraschau. Hungarian lad, into his monarchist stuff, but also a lot of Spanish samples. Quite abrasive in many ways, too. Generally pretty heavy, and very good. Sadly defunct now, but did release a "remix" CD last year.
Perhaps, yes. I've considered trying my hand at creating some just to see the nuance it takes. Perhaps its limited nature is its own form of inspiration as far as trying to pierce whatever the "next level" might be.