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GENERAL SOUND DISCUSSION => GENERAL SOUND DISCUSSION => Topic started by: FreakAnimalFinland on October 11, 2017, 10:00:46 AM

Title: LASSE MARHAUG appreciation topic
Post by: FreakAnimalFinland on October 11, 2017, 10:00:46 AM
Been listening to LASSE MARHAUG "Camellia Sinensis" tape box.

Edition of 100 hand-numbered copies.
Recorded at the best studio in Oslo 2008-2009.
Comes packaged inside a box with a 64 page book and the four tapes inside. Tapes & book come packaged inside a 6 1/2 inch x 9 inch vinyl case.

My own small input to this comes from re-print of Marhaug's tape themed interview from Special Interests #1. From 2009. Fuck, time goes so fast..  Meaning, I just put this to shelves to be "listened soon", and 7 years later being blown up by Marhaug abusing Metal Objects, Contact Microphones, Guitar, Turntables, Tape Delay and Electronics. There is logic in doing box of C-30's. Being that there is one track per side. Each track appears to be "session", which has different set up than the rest. It's all harsh noise, though. I remember 2012, Marhaug/Dan Johansson "Distort Orgasm" CD being somehow... too obvious. Just churning set of solid harsh noise and didn't check out anything released after that. According to discogs, year 2010, when this was released, was the last year when Marhaug solo works were released. Since then, everything is collaborations. A LOT of them. There is one new solo tape in 2016, but that is new mix of old tape from 2007.

Of course I'm not opposed to collaborations. But on certain types of noise, it just appears to be based merely on what are the people you hang around with - at some international festivals, and then jam something. It may work out fine, but lets say listening to the box of "Camellia Sinensis", it feels like in this one, he seems to have several quantities good for harsh noise:
Not only jamming with some good guys, so there is nothing to rely to. No vast impro band making chaos that you contribute a bit. All these appear live in studio takes, so there is the flowing feel of noise session, instead of editing. He seems to be more relaxed on tape mode. Not having to somehow prove to be able to make massive album. As wild some of his harsh noise CD's are, this has much more substance. 8 x 15 minutes separates tracks into good lengths. There are couple sides that ain't as hot as the rest, but they work along 2 hour wholeness. I'm pretty sure that if this would be on CD, it would be even better than reissuing White Inferno. I have no complaints of that. Having released Egoproblem CD myself, which has certainly personal importance rather than objective extraordinary value. On this session, Lasse appears to use a lot of same type of gear like in his early days, only with 10+ years of experience. There are couple boxes at discogs for reasonable price, so one could grab it now even without reissue..

Many seem to praise "Quiet North". It is very sharp and has ripping quality and aggressive force to it, but above mentioned box has several sides that are texturally way better. Same could be said about "The Great Silence". That CD is perhaps even closer to "Camellia Sinensis". Perhaps most drastic difference is the cd vs tape format reducing the highest frequencies - making recordings warmer sounding in good way.  "Camellia Sinensis" has different, more vivid and playful quality to it besides full on harshness. All these worth to grab, of course! Some should be available very cheaply, or if digital is your thing, just visit here:

https://marhaug.bandcamp.com/

Notable addition few months ago:
https://marhaug.bandcamp.com/album/tapes-1990-1999-2007
Title: Re: LASSE MARHAUG appreciation topic
Post by: Tommy Carlsson on October 15, 2017, 08:49:09 PM
Kind of sad/typical that this topic has no replies yet.

When I have people over for dinner, we usually end up listening to some Lasse Marhaug during the evening. I find that a lot of people who claim to like noise music have no check on Lasse whatsoever. Their loss, but I am always happy to point out the error of their ways.

The Great Silence is my favourite by far. Agree on everything Mikko says about that box set, it's a truly great one.

Lasse is to me what Hank Williams is to Kris Kristofferson, etc etc.

Oh, and this video is very cool, and you should absolutely check it out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVa_RBBtV2E
Title: Re: LASSE MARHAUG appreciation topic
Post by: monotome on October 15, 2017, 09:37:02 PM
Yes, great dude, very genuine and in love with his craft. I should check out Quiet North, really like The Great Silence and Science Fiction Room Service. Read that The Shape of Rock to Come was one of his most sold releases, but I'm not into it, the track Magmadiver is great but the rest is a bit to tame.

His label Pica Disk seems to handle releases with lot of care (is it still active ?) and the Personal Best zine is one of the better ones out there, however also features other artists besides noise and electronics, thus maybe not too interesting for the though guys.
Title: Re: LASSE MARHAUG appreciation topic
Post by: Baglady on October 15, 2017, 11:42:01 PM
I'm guessing people who just recently stumbled into noise, or who for whatever reason haven't dived into Marhaugs work yet, simply don't know where to start with him. Thankfully the 4 CD Tapes 1990-1999 box set is still cheap and easily obtained, and gives a great overview of his 1990's work. It's a pretty much perfect set in all its imperfection. Nice booklet with liner notes and old artwork too. Should be in every shelf.

As for Pica Disk, that label is still very much alive. The WITCYST 4CD box released just recently is pretty damn stunning.
Title: Re: LASSE MARHAUG appreciation topic
Post by: bitewerksMTB on October 16, 2017, 10:10:40 PM
He was part of Testicle Hazard, right? "Beauty of Nature" is great.

Looking at his discography, I definitely agree it would be difficult trying to figure out where to start! I listened to some of "The Great Silence" & that seems like a good one.
Title: Re: LASSE MARHAUG appreciation topic
Post by: Zeno Marx on October 17, 2017, 12:52:05 AM
I think there are a couple problems.  First, the catalogue is massive.  Second, and probably more importantly, he's so varied and is interested in working with sounds and styles all over the place.  It's overwhelming and unpredictable.  If he's a priority for you, those things likely don't matter, but if you're like me, who respects and has found some great work from him, yet can't mark him a priority, then you are satisfied with stumbling into quality releases by happenstance.  In other words, I respect him and have some interest, but I'm not dedicated to following him.  He strikes me as someone who is, or who isn't, on your "dedicated to" list.

The Great Silence was one of my top picks of 2007.  The collaboration with Paal Nilssen-Love - Stalk was also good from 2007.  Dror Feiler/Lasse Marhaug - No More Drama 2008 was really good. 
Title: Re: LASSE MARHAUG appreciation topic
Post by: Johann on October 17, 2017, 02:30:45 AM
I often thought that the lack of talk surrounding Marhaug had a lot to do with the fact he doesn't really throw any bones to the transgressive crowds. I think him more aligned in attitude to the Japanese scene like Incapacitants. That said I don't think there is anyone out there who doesn't consider him to be a master of what he does. But it is true that he is so prolific it'd be incredibly difficult to keep up.

I really enjoy the Testical Hazard, and also really enjoyed Distort Orgasm..besides though Pica  and personal best has been killing it. I can't wait to pick up the Witcyst and was so stoked about the Menstraution Sisters release. He really puts a lot of time and energy into his projects and the quality def shows through.
Title: Re: LASSE MARHAUG appreciation topic
Post by: Andrew McIntosh on October 17, 2017, 04:16:28 AM
I don't remember that much but he came down here in I think it was 2012 and I saw him at a warehouse gig in collaboration with...someone. It was underwhelming. But I'm not holding that against him because that's how such things go.

He strikes me as a hard working Noise monger who doesn't try to fit in with any kind of image or particular way of doing things. All power to him.
Title: Re: LASSE MARHAUG appreciation topic
Post by: Baglady on May 01, 2018, 11:03:03 AM
THE NORDIC MIRACLE - We Shall Provide CD (Humbug - 2002)
I don't think I've ever seen this album mentioned anywhere, which is strange. I've talked about it with Dan J and Tommy C and they like it just as much as I, but that's it. Three live shows from 2000 and 2001 in their entirety, but judging from the sound I would have taken it for a well produced studio album. Massive piles of scorching electronics, guitars, glass breaking and whatnot. It has the same kind of larger than life feel that one finds in Golden Serenades' Hammond Pops album, for example, but more raw and ugly. I usually think Marhaugs collaborations are less interesting than his solo work, but this particular album with Tore Böe by his side is easily among his best works. Total ripper. Looking at discogs, 31 "haves" and 3 "wants", 13 copies for sale from $3, come on... The liner notes implicitly speaks of great things to come, but sadly the project seems to have died after this fine CD and some comp tracks.
Title: Re: LASSE MARHAUG appreciation topic
Post by: holy ghost on May 01, 2018, 02:02:53 PM
Aside from The Great Silence which I really enjoyed I don't own a lot of his solo stuff but I tend to try and grab Jazkammer releases whenever I can. I didn't get all of those monthly series but I really loved the noisecore one, Musica Non Grata, We Want Epic Drama and Solitary Nail.

A record I really enjoy is the Smegma Meets Jazkammer album, that to me is the perfect clattery mix of both, a really great release.

I also really enjoy the Okkyung Lee "Ghil" LP that he recorded. I think that is indicative of how I know him, he's always involved in projects I really like. Pica Disc releases, doing collabs with other people.

However I'm a long time twitter follower and he doesn't post about tea as much as he used to.
Title: Re: LASSE MARHAUG appreciation topic
Post by: Soloman Tump on May 01, 2018, 06:39:14 PM
Well this artist is completely new to me.  A wealth of stuff to attempt to get through here then.

Where to start.......?
Title: Re: LASSE MARHAUG appreciation topic
Post by: HONOR_IS_KING! on May 01, 2018, 08:26:43 PM
Quote from: Soloman Tump on May 01, 2018, 06:39:14 PM
Well this artist is completely new to me.  A wealth of stuff to attempt to get through here then.

Where to start.......?

What you should do is watch this performance: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVa_RBBtV2E
Title: Re: LASSE MARHAUG appreciation topic
Post by: Baglady on October 04, 2020, 11:17:12 PM
Been revisiting tons of semi-old rippers as of late, naturally some by Marhaug...

LASSE MARHAUG - Hell Is Empty C32 (Trash Ritual, 2006)
Carelessly elegant violence. Starts with flatulent bass, a steadily chewing loop ecstatically being fed with more and more junk, speakers bloating and bursting, ebbing out with the same flatulent loop. Side two. Grainy zapgun loop, stuttering machinery, feedback drills, metals, lsd electronics, off the rails completely. Lacks the focus of the first side, but makes up for it with the unpredictable, and by being great in general. The Michelin Man of noise goes his own way!

So, three new solo albums in three different formats on Sentimental Productions. Anyone heard any of those? What are they like?
Title: Re: LASSE MARHAUG appreciation topic
Post by: impulse manslaughter on October 05, 2020, 04:32:09 PM
Was going to pull out The Great Silence but couln't find it. Now remember selling it a few years ago so probably didn't like it very much. Really enjoyed the cd reissue of White Inferno which became the Marhaug record I always play when I want to hear some of his stuff. The split 7" with Merzbow is also considered a classic in this household.
Title: Re: LASSE MARHAUG appreciation topic
Post by: absurdexposition on October 05, 2020, 05:15:45 PM
Quote from: impulse manslaughter on October 05, 2020, 04:32:09 PM
Really enjoyed the cd reissue of White Inferno which became the Marhaug record I always play when I want to hear some of his stuff. The split 7" with Merzbow is also considered a classic in this household.

Two of my favourites of his as well.

I need to revisit the split with Aube.
Title: Re: LASSE MARHAUG appreciation topic
Post by: pureterror on October 05, 2020, 07:47:45 PM
Shameless plug alert: I still have copies of Marhaug's The Great Silence, as well as Testicle Hazard's Everything Has Its Price, currently available at a special discount: https://shop.iheartnoise.com/category/sale
Title: Re: LASSE MARHAUG appreciation topic
Post by: WCN on October 06, 2020, 07:45:42 PM
Another shameless plug - the new TESTICLE HAZARD LP titled "Fifty-Sixty" will be out in a few days on WCN...!!!
Title: Re: LASSE MARHAUG appreciation topic
Post by: Bloated Slutbag on October 07, 2020, 06:19:51 PM
Do exercise caution with that low hanging fruit
Title: Re: LASSE MARHAUG appreciation topic
Post by: ddmurph on October 08, 2020, 02:03:39 AM
big big lasse fan here! i'd be hard pushed to pick favourites, there's so much to choose from. i'd probably go for the great silence and the quiet north though. i remember really liking quality control but i haven't listened to it in a long time now. also, the tapes 1990 - 1999 set is super solid start to finish.

again, i haven't listened to the dror feiler collab lp on no fun for a long time but i remember that one being particularly "in the red".

then there's jazkamer (the monthly series cds from a while back were all great - and super varied), testicle hazard, innumerable collabs ...... i don't know how he manages to be so productive ... all this on top of pica disk, marhaug forlag, and more recently film making ... i get tired just thinking of everything he's up to.
Title: Re: LASSE MARHAUG appreciation topic
Post by: Bruitiste on October 08, 2020, 08:35:17 PM
Quote from: ddmurph on October 08, 2020, 02:03:39 AM
big big lasse fan here! i'd be hard pushed to pick favourites, there's so much to choose from. i'd probably go for the great silence and the quiet north though. i remember really liking quality control but i haven't listened to it in a long time now. also, the tapes 1990 - 1999 set is super solid start to finish.

again, i haven't listened to the dror feiler collab lp on no fun for a long time but i remember that one being particularly "in the red".

then there's jazkamer (the monthly series cds from a while back were all great - and super varied), testicle hazard, innumerable collabs ...... i don't know how he manages to be so productive ... all this on top of pica disk, marhaug forlag, and more recently film making ... i get tired just thinking of everything he's up to.
Also his Personal Best zine, I've enjoyed every issue.  Incredibly prolific guy.
Title: Re: LASSE MARHAUG appreciation topic
Post by: tisbor on October 10, 2020, 12:55:23 AM
I didn't see this thread at all. Nice to see praise for Camellia Sinensis, it's also perhaps my favourite of his noise works. Also nice reference to his obsession with tea.
Title: Re: LASSE MARHAUG appreciation topic
Post by: W.K. on October 11, 2020, 02:02:26 PM
Great talk with Lasse:

https://www.attnmagazine.co.uk/features/12126
Title: Re: LASSE MARHAUG appreciation topic
Post by: Olegh Kolyada on October 13, 2020, 09:37:08 AM
A few copies of "White Inferno" are available from Old Captain accompanied by a TS:
(https://scontent.fiev22-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/s960x960/121456830_3467377916688566_811375861302403344_o.jpg?_nc_cat=111&_nc_sid=8024bb&_nc_ohc=BBjasCUz1RAAX_5QQwo&_nc_ht=scontent.fiev22-2.fna&tp=7&oh=2f3987180488d17c1b4b481ee327cbbb&oe=5FAB7238)
https://oldcaptain.bandcamp.com/merch/lasse-marhaug-white-inferno-t-shirt-black-6-panel-digipak-cd
Title: Re: LASSE MARHAUG appreciation topic
Post by: Baglady on October 14, 2020, 12:57:55 PM
There's a new collaboration LP together with Joe McPhee, entitled Harmonia Macrocosmica, on Actions For Free Jazz & Smalltown Supersound. It's adventurous. From rather noisy to absolute beatiful droning parts, electronic and organic etc. But still coherent in a 60's / 70's avantgarde way. Surprisingly unjazzy, although there is some of that too. Fucking excellent!
Title: Re: LASSE MARHAUG appreciation topic
Post by: Bruitiste on October 14, 2020, 08:41:51 PM
Quote from: Baglady on October 14, 2020, 12:57:55 PM
There's a new collaboration LP together with Joe McPhee, entitled Harmonia Macrocosmica, on Actions For Free Jazz & Smalltown Supersound. It's adventurous. From rather noisy to absolute beatiful droning parts, electronic and organic etc. But still coherent in a 60's / 70's avantgarde way. Surprisingly unjazzy, although there is some of that too. Fucking excellent!
That sounds great, will have to check it out.
I like when free jazz guys get out of their bubble, McPhee is particularly adventurous, having done a double CD with The Nihilist Spasm Band in the past too, for example.  Evan Parker is another good one, his collaboration with Wiese was pretty good, and his electroacoustic ensemble records (some with Furt as members) while not noisy exactly, would appeal to fans of all sorts of out there electronic sounds.
Title: Re: LASSE MARHAUG appreciation topic
Post by: FreakAnimalFinland on February 12, 2022, 08:50:49 AM
Had zero memories of this one. 2007 CD "Its not the end of the world" from Lasse Marhaug. Some of his stuff ain't pure noise, but I have less of those. Also I do not have that huge amount of his collaboration work.
Based on cover, I was expecting something colorful, playful, perhaps not even harsh at all. What you have here, is great harsh noise CD!! Sharp, clear, loud (except somewhere in the middle it tones down to distorted, but less punchy noise), but also indeed a bit more playful than his widely circulated brutal noise assault CD's.
It has very tasty methods of cut-up or some sort of digital sound processing I would assume. Some of tracks are more complex than just screwing pedal buttons, some editing been made. It is energetic noise nevertheless. Most of things is traditional methods, physical sound sources, feedback, metal junk. Things as simple as just hammening sheet of metal or he might have noise loop going on and start fucking around with it a bit.

My assumption is that this could be cheap at discogs for example? Haven't checked, but would be worth of full price of course. If you don't feel like spending hard earned money, check here:

https://marhaug.bandcamp.com/album/its-not-the-end-of-the-world-2007

Title: Re: LASSE MARHAUG appreciation topic
Post by: FreakAnimalFinland on February 13, 2022, 10:12:54 AM
1996 Lasse Marhaug debut CD "Science Fiction Room Service", which I have had since it came out. This is brilliant and somewhat unusual noise CD.
I recall Lasse has told somewhere, that he did not have mixer or such devices, so how early days material was done, was source tapes being played through couple boom boxes, in room, and DAT recorder recording it with lots of input gain. Balance of material adjusted, not with mixer slides, but how boom boxes were placed in a room.
I believe this CD is one done with such method, and can't really recall other albums I would have heard of, that are done like this. Sure, room recordings. Everybody does it. But is there more noise CD albums, where material is done with multiple boom boxes playing noise in room and "mixed" by placing these in suitable distance and desired volume, to create the harsh noise? I would also assume, that DAT players of the time, sometimes has so tasty distortion in their A/D process if you put enough gain. At least some of the Japanese artists, like Pain Jerk, sometimes mentioned that secret for his sharp and crystal clear ripping noise was all-on-red recording to DAT.
Title: Re: LASSE MARHAUG appreciation topic
Post by: Potier on February 15, 2022, 12:38:19 AM
https://erstwhilerecords.bandcamp.com/album/top

Marhaug/Noetinger Collab out next week on Erstwhile. Looking forward to it. Released in memoriam: Peter Rehberg.