Patiently trawled through the pages of this forum and unless I've missed something it seems the closest there is to a dedicated thread was this -
http://www.special-interests.net/forum/index.php?topic=7714.0 (http://www.special-interests.net/forum/index.php?topic=7714.0)
- which I don't think amounts to much, but anyway.
Got the "Certified Dead" compilation from Death Continues about a week ago. An enjoyable selection of spirals. Interesting mixture of well known and less well known projects. For mine, the good pieces were by Brighter Death Now (interesting production sound, a lot more clean and digital than one would expect perhaps but actually no less better for it), Wertham (nice, satisfying sounds), Necrommando (dark synth sounds), Femeheim (sounding a lot like GO but no problem) and ...Today, I'm Dead (dark feedback-ish sounds with interesting moaning, non-lyrical [I think] vocals).
I'd be interested to learn what other projects are around at the moment that would specifically call themselves Death Industrial. When I think of a definition, I tend to favour the more traditional minimal type of sound like AM, BDN, N. and so forth. But I don't want to exclude what seems to me to be the more recent development towards more use of modern synth sounds, for example She Spread Sorrow and ANTIchildLEAGUE. SSS's "Mine" is a great release of well constructed and recorded spirals using acoustic as well as synth sounds, with audible vocals with what seem like rather personal and poetic lyrics. ACL may not necessarily regard herself as Death Industrial but I think a lot of her work that I've heard would definitely pass. "The Father" is a great album.
So who else is there recording today?
I think that "Death Industrial" was created by Brighter Death Now, and follow by other swedish projects in the begining of the Cold Meat Industry era.
After this Corbelli (early Atrax Morgue and Mörder Machine) and Slaughter Productions put out some other interesting releases in the genre.
I considere that "Death Industrial" is dead. I see many time this appellation erroneous in reviews or promo texts of some bands but never find this atmosphere anymore.
If you like this kind of atmosphere, try next:
...Today, I'm Dead
Aghast
Archon Satani (first releases)
Atrax Morgue (some of theses)
Babyflesh
Brighter Death Now
Ex.Order
Lille Roger
Maison Close
Megaptera
Mörder Machine
Mortuor
Necromondo
Nekrofellatio
steel hook prostheses are active?
Gnawed are still out there.
Pure example of projects that have Nothing to do in the "Death Industrial" category (in my opinion).
Listen to BDN's Great Death, feel the atmosphere.
All theses projects with a guy who scream like a pig being slaughtered is out of scope (in my opinion, once again).
Maybe that i'm too old to understand this mutation of the genre.
really, isn't the recent "flugornas herrar" c88 by alfarmania & proiekt hat death industrial? was a big fan of the genre in the late 90's but don't listen much anymore as the newer projects just don't fit with my sense of nostalgia for the time. however upon reading this thread this release instantly came to mind. definitely captures that atmosphere for me. whatever you would call it, its downright fucking incredible album.
Maybe that i'm too old to understand this mutation of the genre.
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Apparently so...
I believe the last thing I heard that made me think of death industrial was Vestigial - Aeon 2007, and using the term there is arguable. Great project. Too bad it didn't have more wind.
well death industrial can still be considered a style combining elements of PE and Dark Ambient?
i think this when a i think about the concept of death industrial
I always associated the term with feeling/atmosphere rather than elements used. First few BDN, a sizeable portion of Corbelli's output, Schloss Tegal and Megaptera sit firmly as the top tier for myself personally.
I would certainly consider Steel Hook Prostheses, particularly earlier material (mid-late 2000s) to be well fitted under this title.
As for active artists not mentioned - Subklinik and Trauma.
XX Committee "Slaughterhouse" is worth listening aswell, pre-dated everything else mentioned.
Quote from: FallOfNature on February 13, 2018, 02:01:24 AM
...pre-dated everything else mentioned.
Interesting thing about a lot of early Industrial was how
disturbing a lot of it sounded. That was always what struck me the most when I first started listening to this genre.
Certainly the term is used out of original context, but I wouldn't say it is dead. That's like saying power electronics ended with whitehouse.
For me death industrial needs to evoke an atmosphere, the last album by Gnawed certainly achieved that. Some of SHP does as well but their output crosses so called genres anyway
Quote from: Brad on February 13, 2018, 03:59:29 AM
I've seen the term "Death Industrial" very widely applied to newer artists. Trepaneringsritualen, Pharmakon, whoever. Perhaps some people are using it as a catchall for dark, atmospheric industrial projects that are not dance-oriented, and not pure noise.
I would say that and (maybe most of all) repetitive rythms, loops and things many people would simply call "structure". Seems like most material that is structured, doesnt have too many "wild" elements like feedback or harsh pedal madness and sounds a bit "dark" is immediately labelled "Death Industrial"...? Especially with the already mentioned artists from the Malignant roster this can be seen easily. It ' s probably too clean to fall under the PE category, so Death Industrial would be the obvious choice. However, as Leatherface already addressed, "real" old Death Industrial also sounds quite different. My guess would be that some defining aspects of old school Death Industrial are results of gear and recording technique of the old days (as FreakAnimal already remarked). Rusty metal, delay abuse, analog synth captured on tape etc. Also, maybe some newer artists couldnt get away with the bleak minimalism of Atrax Morgue, for example?
get the new Death Continues compilation... I think it is a good portrait of what is going on today :)
just got my copies in and it is amazing...
Quote from: Kayandah on February 13, 2018, 05:50:18 PM
Certainly the term is used out of original context, but I wouldn't say it is dead.
Long live Death!
The term does get thrown around a bit more casually than it should, IMO. Not that I support the obsessive "genre-fication" of noise/industrial that seems to go on, but if we are going to use these terms they should have some kind of fixed reference point.
So much of it is atmosphere. Right now, at least from my view, there is a popularity of this kind of maniacal/sadistic vibe in industrial, as opposed to the more stoic/somber atmospheres that really (for me anyway) make the style.
Nonetheless, I am excited to check out some of the projects mentioned in this thread that I haven't paid attention to before.
Quote from: Leatherface on February 12, 2018, 11:30:57 AM
Pure example of projects that have Nothing to do in the "Death Industrial" category (in my opinion).
Listen to BDN's Great Death, feel the atmosphere.
All theses projects with a guy who scream like a pig being slaughtered is out of scope (in my opinion, once again).
Maybe that i'm too old to understand this mutation of the genre.
Beyond Enclosure – Dungeon Of The Total Void
Think I remember seeing mention of the project around here. The title pretty much says it all, as does this line from the anthemic "Forceful Acquisition Of Faith", I just wanted to avoid punishment as soon as possible... as soon as possible. Would like to know more about the project. Overall very well done. Reminds at intervals of a more gloom (or dungeon)- ridden ACL.
Haven't been paying much attention to Control over the years, and that has clearly been a mistake. I searched the board, and nobody seemed to have classify Control as death industrial; most often mentioned in power-electronic discussions. There's probably some sort of status thing going on there. I don't know. Nevertheless, Control is some fantastic death industrial. In Harm's Way impressed me. I like that he's on Ant-Zen, or at least was on Ant-Zen. The tonality and vibe are a great match. I'd love to hear a Converter/Control collaboration.
Quote from: Zeno Marx on June 06, 2018, 02:59:48 AM
I'd love to hear a Converter/Control collaboration.
Been dreaming of that since Control's first Ant-Zen release. In terms of style, vibe and aesthetics I think it'd mesh incredibly well. But Converter has been out of the game for 10 years now? So I won't hold my breath.
That being said I was disappointed by the Navicon Torture Technology / Converter collab project Xenonics K-30. It wasn't terrible but with some more time and care it could've been much more interesting.
Quote from: Zeno Marx on June 06, 2018, 02:59:48 AM
Haven't been paying much attention to Control over the years, and that has clearly been a mistake. I searched the board, and nobody seemed to have classify Control as death industrial; most often mentioned in power-electronic discussions. There's probably some sort of status thing going on there. I don't know.
Perhaps also how it is presented- somewhat aggressively- in a live setting. (This based on exactly two experiences from the same tour ages back so wtf do I know.) Plus the somewhat nebulous definitions applied to death industrial. (This is not a complaint. In recent years I've decided I like the ambiguity.)
For current Italian project continuing the legacy of A.M., MO, etc. try Necrozoico.
Quote from: NIT on June 07, 2018, 06:30:15 PM
For current Italian project continuing the legacy of A.M., MO, etc. try Necrozoico.
his past projects Audax Italiano and Morva were excellent.
I would add the new GNAWD album Subterranean Rites,
sounds a little bit like his Atrox Pestis Drone Project crossed with Trepaneringsritualen.
Very modern Death Industrial for sure.
For me Death Industrial is BDN The Slaughterhouse / Necrose Evengelicum and the modern version of it
is
Alfarmania & Proiekt Hat – Flugornas Herrar TAPE
I have nearly an religious feel for this tape.
Sounds very grinding and morbid, only use of analog equipment.
To End It All is a very underrated death industrial project currently active
https://toenditall.bandcamp.com/album/scourge-of-woman
Pathogens
https://pathogens.bandcamp.com/releases
also En Nihil is still KILLING IT
I also recently discovered Final Machine and not 100% sure if it falls into the death industrial genre but either way this shit just RIPS
https://finalmachine.bandcamp.com/album/803671-s-773729-e
There's a new Brighter Death Now album and a huge pre-Lille Roger box set. From the couple of tracks I previewed, the latter doesn't fit into this thread.
Quote from: Zeno Marx on December 20, 2021, 06:54:29 PM
There's a new Brighter Death Now album and a huge pre-Lille Roger box set. From the couple of tracks I previewed, the latter doesn't fit into this thread.
The new BDN album is good. Not great, not crap, but solid. Certainly enjoyable. A nice, murky, slow moving affair all 'round - not much of the more aggressive PE type of thing, save perhaps "Permanently Soiled" and "Sex Crazy Amerika". Not sure how he recorded it but it's got a good low fidelity stench.
The Lille Roger material I've been looking forward to for a long time now (like a lot of other people I think). I think it very much hits the DI mark, particularly the lengthy track "My Lucky Day" which is obviously an antecedent to BDN tracks like "Fourteen". Sparser, in general, more along the lines of "Slaughterhouse".
For mine, I think it's the Bomb The Daynursery "Primitive Perversions" release, which came out recently, that is closer to your crude, very early tape-hiss teenage-experiment stuff. The longer pieces, like "Track Three" and "Mental Depression II", are something of a chore to get through. More mood music.
https://ant-zen.bandcamp.com/track/first-transcendental-component-featuring-norad
This track has it all. Industrial clanking. Timpani. Orchestral bells/chimes. Sampled, bellowing, huge horns. I wish I could find more death industrial or neoclassical like this. It has to be out there. Someone please point me towards more of this.
it sounds like hans zimmer soundtracks
Quote from: aububs on October 27, 2022, 09:54:43 PM
it sounds like hans zimmer soundtracks
I can hear that. As I was typing the previous post, I was thinking Ramin Djawadi and Game of Thrones.