Mine would be Troubled Sleep...
Cocaine Death
Pleasure Ground and Black Vase are two of my favourite albums that I listen to the most.
"A History of Aids" all the way.
African Division
atypical, but I love Rose Pillar.
Troubled Sleep, History of AIDS and Shipwreckers Diary are the ones I find myself returning to. Couldn't choose between them.
A History of Aids is right behind Cocaine Death for me
Quote from: DSOL on May 22, 2018, 04:59:57 PM
A History of Aids is right behind Cocaine Death for me
See, i could never get on with Cocaine Death. I know a lot of people rate it but it does nothing for me
History of AIDS and Pleasure Ground probably had the biggest impact on me when I was first starting Concrete Mascara, in the sense that I wanted to make things sound like Pleasure Ground but they came out way closer to the blown-out, hyper aggressive insanity of History of AIDS. the track "Vertigo" from History of AIDS is my favorite Prurient track.
My other two favorites, which I honestly listen to the most often are The Baron's Chamber CD on Nihilist and the Time Began in a Garden 2xcassette. The Baron's Chamber is an extremely well executed mash-up of several live sets which basically combine the sounds and vibes of Troubled Sleep, Fossil and The History of AIDS into something dense and feverish. The repetitive bass-y synth ending that's like the last 7 minutes of the 30 minute track is just a giant fuck off while being ear candy at the same time.
As for Time Began in A Garden the combination of theme, packaging and sounds makes this the best of all mellower Prurient releases. and for my taste, some of the best short tracks Prurient has ever done. really just perfectly executed all the way around. can't help but listen and think that this one had to have a huge influence on all of the "romantic" and mellow PE that's come out over the past 5 years.
But Prurient has many other great releases too! With a discography as big as his, not everything is a winner, and some just suck, but on the whole most things are pretty fucking good.
Quote from: Kayandah on May 22, 2018, 05:23:01 PM
Quote from: DSOL on May 22, 2018, 04:59:57 PM
A History of Aids is right behind Cocaine Death for me
See, i could never get on with Cocaine Death. I know a lot of people rate it but it does nothing for me
it took awhile for me to really appreciate the output
The Black Post Society was one of the first noise cds I ever bought, so it's one of my favorites. I'd like to say I love Rose Pillar, but I really only like one or two tracks. Cocaine Death, History of Aids, Black Vase, Fossil, Pleasure Ground are all great. Really love the high-pitched feedback PE style he sort of developed.
Fossil.
Pleasure Ground is unmatched in my book.
Frozen Niagara Falls / Black Vase / Bermuda Drain / Arrowhead
Colonialist Nature and Misanthropy
This thread reminds me that I'm insanely overdue a Prurient revisit.
History of AIDS
Cocaine Death
Arrowhead
probably more but I don't remember right now.
The great thing about this project was that things could really take a different turn from release to release. I mean, sure, these albums are probably the nearest you can get to 'objective' faves in that they had higher runs, longer running lengths and thus seem more like proper albums and therefore stronger statements but conceptually and aesthetically some of smaller tapes and 7"s are so important and amazing as part of the project. I love Whip Enthusiasts from the Bloodlust! series, for example, because it really encompasses that mucky, emotional synth style which - though present on Cocaine Death - works so completely differently in the form of a short, abstract blast on 7"
Prurient is still such an interesting case because you have such an enormous and varied though artistically consistent back catalogue right up until the point we started getting all that garbage EBM which basically (and only IMHO) completely destroyed the project. You often get told that you're a narrow minded, noise conservative and don't like it just because it has beats, or that you miss the point of how varied Prurient has always been when criticising the later output.....but I will never buy into the idea that all the more recent stuff was anything more than a shittily executed tragedy of poor judgement. YET EVEN SO Prurient before all that shit still remains such a vital and exemplary instance of a true noise artist that still bares many years of listening and exploration.
And still, wanting
I'm glad nobody's mentioned Dracula Syndrome yet so now I seem cool
But for real, nobody talks about this release and it's some of Dom's best stuff imo
not my favorite overall (which would be pleasure ground), but i'm surprised no one seems to dig "through the window" very much for his EBM-style
In order:
White Plains Leather : Black River Falls
Great tape cut-up and vocals. Will always be hard to top for me. One of the weirdest packages in his discography on the special edition as well.
The Golden Chamber
Heavy ambient industrial at its finest. Romantic period orchestral music I feel has always been present in his work and this tape makes it obvious with the small passage sampling of Dvorak's New World Symphony looped throughout "... Dying From The Wound." Love the booklet that comes with as well
Colonialist Nature And Misanthropy
Heaviest of all releases. Listening loud as possible on a huge PA is recommended. The bass pulsation is crushing.
Art and packaging is fantastic.
Lily Of The Valley / Return Of Happiness
Restrained, distant power electronics. "I Have A Message For You" is one of my all time favorite single tracks in his discography. Great package and cover art.
Worm In The Apple
Best of all the 7"s. Primitive perfection.
I'm surprised no one has mentioned the artwork on anything yet. It is half the battle with Prurient after all.
I have never heard "The History of AIDS" until just now (thanks Youtube), and I have instantly connected to the sound palette. Think I need this one.
The ones I spend the most time with are Oxidation, Annihilationist, and Palm Tree Corpse. I like Cocaine Death just as much as those, but I suppose its not a "proper" album.
Quote from: Duncan on May 22, 2018, 09:37:58 PM
all that garbage EBM which basically (and only IMHO) completely destroyed the project
I feel that I might also have this point of view if it wasn't for the fact that Greenpoint from Frozen Niagara Falls was the first Prurient track I heard. As a young gun I came late to PE with Prurient being one of the gateway artists for me so this style of track with harsh elements intertwined with melody and rhythm shaped how I look at the genre (and is probably why I love the detailed/composed sound of newer Grunt stuff, Puce Mary, Con-Dom's 8th Pillar, etc). That said, it certainly wasn't long for me before discovering Arrowhead and falling in love with the absolute sonic violence of his purely feedback-based work.
I can see why an artist so relevant and diverse within the realm of harsh noise/PE would seem to have lost their touch when branching out into essentially synthpop in the eyes of a longtime follower.
Just played the collaboration with Sutcliffe Jugend. Obviously not the best material of both artists but still a nice mixture of their styles.
Quote from: NaturalOrthodoxy on May 24, 2018, 02:28:50 PM
Quote from: Duncan on May 22, 2018, 09:37:58 PM
all that garbage EBM which basically (and only IMHO) completely destroyed the project
I feel that I might also have this point of view if it wasn't for the fact that Greenpoint from Frozen Niagara Falls was the first Prurient track I heard. As a young gun I came late to PE with Prurient being one of the gateway artists for me so this style of track with harsh elements intertwined with melody and rhythm shaped how I look at the genre (and is probably why I love the detailed/composed sound of newer Grunt stuff, Puce Mary, Con-Dom's 8th Pillar, etc). That said, it certainly wasn't long for me before discovering Arrowhead and falling in love with the absolute sonic violence of his purely feedback-based work.
I can see why an artist so relevant and diverse within the realm of harsh noise/PE would seem to have lost their touch when branching out into essentially synthpop in the eyes of a longtime follower.
Well everyone has their starting points, it's fair enough. Has got me thinking about whether or not I'd feel the way I do was I not into a different style of Prurient beforehand. The honest truth is that I possibly wouldn't so I admit to having a biased, loaded take on things but even so I remember my main issue with Bermuda Drain being with how poorly executed it all seemed more than the stylistic change. You know when you hear something an artist does and you can tell how much of a product it is of wanting to do certain musical things rather than how necessary it might be to do so? It seemed like for the first time ever that this enigmatic and complicated project had a really telling, naive thought process hanging over it which is why I say it got ruined for me. Of course I don't mind what anyone likes or dislikes in his catalogue mind you, it's all about ones own take on it.
Quote from: PTM Jim on May 23, 2018, 07:42:33 AM
Worm In The Apple
Best of all the 7"s. Primitive perfection.
100% agreed.
I think i have all the Prurient 7"s. From what i remember i like them all except Crossbow on Dotdotdot. Women Pissing w/ The Rita is my favorite collab.
Quote from: impulse manslaughter on May 25, 2018, 12:17:04 AM
Women Pissing w/ The Rita is my favorite collab.
Ditto. Total ripper.
Quote from: impulse manslaughter on May 25, 2018, 12:17:04 AM
Women Pissing w/ The Rita is my favorite collab.
Proud to have that one on Fusty. That is my 2nd favorite 7" after Worm In The Apple.
Quote from: absurdexposition on May 25, 2018, 01:00:55 AM
Quote from: impulse manslaughter on May 25, 2018, 12:17:04 AM
Women Pissing w/ The Rita is my favorite collab.
Ditto. Total ripper.
Of course, incredible collab record.
I don't know if there's really much that I haven't been able to get into from this project, aside from "Bermuda Drain" and the surrounding releases. First ones I owned were "Black Vase" and the "Church Of Ammunition" 7". Obviously "History Of Aids", and "Pleasure Ground" are both great although I really feel like I overplayed Pleasure Ground to the point that I don't know if I will need to play it ever again, really.
"Frozen Niagra Falls" has some tracks on it that are good, but it could benefit from being condensed. The new one I've played only once and it works conceptually, but I haven't felt like going back to it yet. The Zaetraom tape is great as well, although sounds a lot different from most of his other works but in a good way. One thing that I will also say is the material on the "BDSM Atlantic Partnership" LP is top notch, and I hope to hear more stuff like this in the near future.
Someone recorded, and is now sharing, the Oslo show from May 18th on the Dime a Dozen tracker.
*sorry, but I'm not converting it to MP3 and uploading it to a host.
Black Vase, Cocaine Death, Black Post Society, Bermuda Drain
I like the simplicity of Point & Void a lot. Surprised nobody's mentioned it.
Quote from: PTM Jim on May 25, 2018, 01:24:17 AM
Quote from: impulse manslaughter on May 25, 2018, 12:17:04 AM
Women Pissing w/ The Rita is my favorite collab.
Proud to have that one on Fusty. That is my 2nd favorite 7" after Worm In The Apple.
I prefer Sutcliffe Jugend/Prurient - The End of Autumn
while 'women pissing' epitomizes a perfect noise 7", personal favorite collaborative work would be the 'snail on a razor' collab cd w/ Hototogisu... love the long droning distant sound of that album, the ferocity of the noise takes on a trance-like quality with the blunted nature of the recording. on the flip side of the sound spectrum i return to the collab CD with Richard Ramirez + Flatline Construct more than any of his other cut-up focused stuff. wish the 'sick silent summer slum' collab tape with Sickness was longer - had a great thing going there.
'fossil' immediately comes to mind as my favorite album though that is kinda like a collaboration as well with all the vocal + sound contribution from j.vibg/viodre & jeff plummer/immaculate:grotesque. other favorite releases would be 'oxidation', 'sexual magic', 'time began in a garden', and the track on the new engand 5-lp box on RRR has gotta be one of my top favorite stand-alone tracks. once the arpeggiated electro sounds started working its way into the project he lost me.
Hospital Productions just put up some Prurient shirts for anyone interested
Worthy of a mention might be "Outside The World". Always enjoyed the brooding nature of this release. And was the first I had heard of him going this route. B-side is still one of my favorite Prurient tracks ever.
Ok I'm bringing up "Dracula Syndrome" again because it's a solid 70+ minutes and some of my favorite Dom harsh cut-up and it is criminally underrepresented here lol
Quote from: PedestrianOrgans on June 12, 2018, 07:07:58 PM
Ok I'm bringing up "Dracula Syndrome" again because it's a solid 70+ minutes and some of my favorite Dom harsh cut-up and it is criminally underrepresented here lol
because of his vast catalog, I finally checked this one out based on this thread. based upon my 1st couple of listens I would say this has moved into a top 3 Prurient releases for me
I've been meaning to buy this release for ages, will have to purchase soon.
yeah if i had to pick a solo cut-up style work fav it would definitely be 'dracula syndrome' but the collab with RR+FC seems to nail that best for me.
Maybe I won't sound like a true noise fan for this, but my favorites are Frozen Niagara Falls, Bermuda Drain and Through the Window. As far as an underrated one that hasn't been mentioned here yet, Adam Tied to Stone is amazing.
Definitely, Palm Tree Corpse. That tape is a flawless and near perfect exhibition/example of everything that is Prurient.
Yesterday was listening Prurient rrrecycled tape and liking it a lot. When digging more info what exactly that material is, it is related to sessions found on Wolf Eyes/Prurient split. So, now as I write, listening to the split CD. Ripping, really nasty, the vocals/feedback/mixer-feedback era with few bassy tones emerging. Cut almost into Masonna-esque ways occasionally. Not as fast, but this is sort of "classic Prurient sound" for me. Of course he was doing many things before and after, but most memorable is this approach. Due large pressing, I would assume you can still find this split dirt cheap?
I see no one has mentioned the "Despiritualised" 10". Why not? Thought it was great, meself!
I confess, I don't own an awful lot of Prurient, and I remember really not liking "Palm Tree Corpse", so perhaps that put me off a bit. Must re-visit it. However, always found Prurient a bit hit and miss, so that's probably why I didn't invest too much in them. "Cocaine Death" was OK...
Glad to see "Women Pissing" got a couple of mentions, though. Strong. Plus, great title and sleeve!
Quote from: collapsedhole on May 31, 2018, 03:55:39 PMpersonal favorite collaborative work would be the 'snail on a razor' collab cd w/ Hototogisu... love the long droning distant sound of that album, the ferocity of the noise takes on a trance-like quality with the blunted nature of the recording.
Yeah, this is a really good one. Two very well matched projects who know how to get the most out of some feedback. Definitely got a bit of a trance-like / hallucinatory thing going on. A highlight in Hototogisu's discography, too!
Quote from: burdizzo1 on September 29, 2024, 12:25:25 PMI see no one has mentioned the "Despiritualised" 10". Why not? Thought it was great, meself!
I confess, I don't own an awful lot of Prurient, and I remember really not liking "Palm Tree Corpse", so perhaps that put me off a bit. Must re-visit it. However, always found Prurient a bit hit and miss, so that's probably why I didn't invest too much in them. "Cocaine Death" was OK...
Glad to see "Women Pissing" got a couple of mentions, though. Strong. Plus, great title and sleeve!
I've got the tape version of Despirtualized and is indeed great! It seems a bit more grounded in an industrial sound for Prurient, that tape in perticular seems like something that could be influenced by Atrax Morgue, has sort of that PE, but yet death industrial type of sound, at least that's how it sounds to me.
My favourite will always be Frozen Niagara Falls. The harsh/melodic/more structured combo on that record works really well and I think it stands as a really unique and well executed record. Although it's grown on me a lot over time I was so disappointed when the more abstract and even longer Rainbow Mirror followed it. A total change in direction.
FWIW I think the project has had a bit of a resurgence recently? I find the Linekraft collab and the Agonal Lust collabs both excellent. Destroying Electricity also one of his better works in the more ambient and melodic vein, I really like it. Would love to have that one on vinyl even if I'm not totally on board with the art direction.
Quote from: prelapsus on October 06, 2024, 11:22:47 PMMy favourite will always be Frozen Niagara Falls. The harsh/melodic/more structured combo on that record works really well and I think it stands as a really unique and well-executed record. Although it's grown on me a lot over time I was so disappointed when the more abstract and even longer Rainbow Mirror followed it. A total change in direction.
I 100% agree with your comments on both albums. I then remember Dom saying that Frozen Niagara Falls was very much focused towards a more metal-oriented audience, given the label Profound Lore who released it. Perhaps the same scenario of audience focus can be said of the the heavy electronics aligned Casablanca Flamethrowner album issued on Tesco.
Quote from: re:evolution on October 07, 2024, 08:26:03 AMQuote from: prelapsus on October 06, 2024, 11:22:47 PMMy favourite will always be Frozen Niagara Falls. The harsh/melodic/more structured combo on that record works really well and I think it stands as a really unique and well-executed record. Although it's grown on me a lot over time I was so disappointed when the more abstract and even longer Rainbow Mirror followed it. A total change in direction.
Yeah I need to go back to Casablanca Flamethrower. I hear a lot of love for it but it never totally clicked for me.
I 100% agree with your comments on both albums. I then remember Dom saying that Frozen Niagara Falls was very much focused towards a more metal-oriented audience, given the label Profound Lore who released it. Perhaps the same scenario of audience focus can be said of the the heavy electronics aligned Casablanca Flamethrowner album issued on Tesco.
I guess I could say they hit the right segment, as "Casablanca Flamethrower" CD was the first Prurient (aside from "Carte Blanche") I got actually quite recently, and the heavy electronics sound and theme concept got me right away. It is a bit hard to take at one sitting, but there´s some phenomenally oppressive stuff there. I´d highlight "Beneath the Wheels of a Black Raven" and "Guadalcanal Necrophilia".
I used to check out some Prurient a lot earlier, but the mentioned melodic/beat-oriented crossover stuff some friends recommended always annoyed me, and the whole thing just passed me by after that. Thanks to this thread I just had to get Hototogisu/Prurient "Snail on a Razor" which sounded fucking great. Can't wait to blast it proper.
This is always a fun topic, and one that I think is even more interesting to get into when you pick apart the different type of aesthetics/approaches that Dom gets into. For me personally, the era I have dubbed "Crap Dom" has really been doin' it for me as of late. Releases of this time include Dracula Syndrome, African Division and Sexual Magic. Tapes that sound like they were recorded with the shittiest of room mics into the shittiest of tape decks. The result is some ungodly level of filth that you would rarely see from a project in the same prestige as Prurient nowadays.
But it doesn't stop there, because you also have the much more "refined" and "proper" albums. Pleasure Ground, The Black Post Society & Frozen Niagra Falls all have a vision for what they wanted to set out and achieve, and they do it excellently.
2 favorites that I have not seen mentioned here though (or maybe I missed them in skimming):
All Are Guests in the House of the Lord - This Kevin Drumm collab is fucked up good. It is absolutely bewildering how well these 2 work off of each other here. I'm not sure what possessed them during this recording, but its edition of 1000 pressing means you can spend the $7 to go and grab this.
Fossil - It isn't the most polished of the bunch, but I think the charm of having some large ensemble madness for this project comes across nicely on this CD. Again, very cheap and easy to find. I remember speaking to Ben from Dropdead about playing on this disc, and he said that him and Dom would hotwire amps to "ungodly levels of loud." It seems like that is sort of a "Providence thing" to do, as he is not the first musician from there to tell me they modded their amp to perform like that.
Rainbow Mirror doesn't get enough love. It's like...melting Niagara Falls.
Quote from: k.p.g on February 20, 2025, 04:54:09 PMThis is always a fun topic, and one that I think is even more interesting to get into when you pick apart the different type of aesthetics/approaches that Dom gets into. For me personally, the era I have dubbed "Crap Dom" has really been doin' it for me as of late. Releases of this time include Dracula Syndrome, African Division and Sexual Magic. Tapes that sound like they were recorded with the shittiest of room mics into the shittiest of tape decks. The result is some ungodly level of filth that you would rarely see from a project in the same prestige as Prurient nowadays.
But it doesn't stop there, because you also have the much more "refined" and "proper" albums. Pleasure Ground, The Black Post Society & Frozen Niagra Falls all have a vision for what they wanted to set out and achieve, and they do it excellently.
2 favorites that I have not seen mentioned here though (or maybe I missed them in skimming):
All Are Guests in the House of the Lord - This Kevin Drumm collab is fucked up good. It is absolutely bewildering how well these 2 work off of each other here. I'm not sure what possessed them during this recording, but its edition of 1000 pressing means you can spend the $7 to go and grab this.
Fossil - It isn't the most polished of the bunch, but I think the charm of having some large ensemble madness for this project comes across nicely on this CD. Again, very cheap and easy to find. I remember speaking to Ben from Dropdead about playing on this disc, and he said that him and Dom would hotwire amps to "ungodly levels of loud." It seems like that is sort of a "Providence thing" to do, as he is not the first musician from there to tell me they modded their amp to perform like that.
Funny that you mention the Drumm collab, as I bought it used (for a little above what you say, but it was a local record store) somewhat recently. It really is powerful. I should play it more!