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Title: Tattoos
Post by: HONOR_IS_KING! on March 22, 2011, 12:05:20 AM
I know this was discussed on the troniks pe board, but I figured we'd have a better discussion here. Figure there are enough of us who have them.

Have any? Any relation to your work, life, etc?

Post pictures, swap artists names, shop names, etc.
Title: Re: Tattoos
Post by: P-K on March 22, 2011, 12:53:15 AM
working on a Japanese 'turtleback' suit for 5 years now, wanted something big. Len knows his stuff : http://www.haraitattoo.com/gallery-tattoo-len-oriental.php (http://www.haraitattoo.com/gallery-tattoo-len-oriental.php)

relation to work/life you mean "what it means" or how people react to it?
Title: Re: Tattoos
Post by: ConcreteMascara on March 22, 2011, 04:40:25 AM
I only have one which is a symbol I made some years back that sort of back a personal emblem you might say. Just a simple piece.

I got it done when I lived in Japan by a guy who normally did much more intense work. http://www.harizanmai.jp/site/index.php?page=gallery&player=gotch

I've been thinking about getting another since I got my first but haven't created a new design yet that I'm perfectly satisfied with or have the money to get done.

Only in Japan did having a tattoo create any real possibility of a social conflict. I wasn't allowed to use most sento or onsen (public baths) without covering it up.
Title: Re: Tattoos
Post by: SKY BURIAL on March 22, 2011, 05:34:54 AM
Quote from: ConcreteMascara on March 22, 2011, 04:40:25 AMOnly in Japan did having a tattoo create any real possibility of a social conflict. I wasn't allowed to use most sento or onsen (public baths) without covering it up.

Really? I'm cover neck to ankles and I had no problem at baths when I toured there.
Title: Re: Tattoos
Post by: P-K on March 22, 2011, 11:22:16 AM
i think it's more accepted from Western people in japan?

in europe there seem to be 2 extremes, "oh it's art i like it" or "you are scum"  ....nothing in the grey area lol
Title: Re: Tattoos
Post by: ConcreteMascara on March 22, 2011, 02:52:57 PM
I'm not Japanese, I'm of Western descent. I guess I should elaborate. I stayed in Kyoto where people are generally a little more conservative and the issue arose when I was with Japanese friends. By myself or with other non-Japanese students I think Japanese people are generally too polite to say anything but with my Japanese friends it was assumed they should know better or perhaps show more respect.

My good friend there Taka had 7 tattoos but when he started his career with Suntory last Summer he had to get all of his tattoos removed as part of his employment agreement. Spent months in the hospital.
Title: Re: Tattoos
Post by: P-K on March 22, 2011, 04:39:21 PM
how did they remove them? with laser you dont need to stay in a hospital....
Title: Re: Tattoos
Post by: tiny_tove on March 22, 2011, 04:47:15 PM

Mario Barth's documentary about Horitoshi explains some of the issues related with tattoos in bathouses, yakuza, etc.

Met Horitoshi and his manager/model mr Ishikawa in Rome some years ago.
http://www.dillinger.it/horitoshi-larte-del-tatuaggio-tradizionale-giapponese-43137.html
Title: Re: Tattoos
Post by: ConcreteMascara on March 22, 2011, 05:13:06 PM
Quote from: P-K on March 22, 2011, 04:39:21 PM
how did they remove them? with laser you dont need to stay in a hospital....

I didn't ask to be honest. Perhaps it wasn't so long but that was the gist I got from him.
Title: Re: Tattoos
Post by: cipher chris on March 30, 2011, 02:26:31 PM
Quote from: ConcreteMascara on March 22, 2011, 04:40:25 AM
I only have one which is a symbol I made some years back that sort of back a personal emblem you might say. Just a simple piece.

I got it done when I lived in Japan by a guy who normally did much more intense work. http://www.harizanmai.jp/site/index.php?page=gallery&player=gotch

I've been thinking about getting another since I got my first but haven't created a new design yet that I'm perfectly satisfied with or have the money to get done.

Only in Japan did having a tattoo create any real possibility of a social conflict. I wasn't allowed to use most sento or onsen (public baths) without covering it up.
I got Gakkin from this same shop to do a tattoo of Meiko Kaji (Female Prisoner Scorpion style) down my leg when he was visiting Melbourne 2 and 1/2 years ago.  Was very pleased with his work and the result, and he seemed stoked to be able to do it which was great too.

Title: Re: Tattoos
Post by: phagetapes on March 30, 2011, 08:24:58 PM
im in the process of tattooing the majority of my body black.   
there are a few simple designs that are left as skin color but lots of black.   
i bought a machine about 8 years ago and filled almost everything i can reach.    now i need to teach my girlfriend to finish the job.

the designs are partial based off of marquesan tattoos and partial based off of large black tatoos some slaves gave each other to make themselves less desirable in the market place.

Title: Re: Tattoos
Post by: XE on March 30, 2011, 09:26:03 PM
Quote from: phagetapes on March 30, 2011, 08:24:58 PM


the designs are partial based off of marquesan tattoos and partial based off of large black tatoos some slaves gave each other to make themselves less desirable in the market place.



Curious to see those slave designs? any pics?
Title: Re: Tattoos
Post by: phagetapes on March 30, 2011, 09:44:39 PM
the slave designs were mainly things like large black bars across their faces.    one image was a man that had a 1.5-2" bar that started on one side of his face, went across his lips to the other side of his face then a diagonal over his nose to his forehead.    the shape of an upside down 7.    i like the idea of their tattoos as a big fuck you to their captors.    other images were more "traditional" for the islands and had huge areas tattooed solid black such as the whole right side of their body.  some of the tattoos were part of their culture and some were intentionally inked for reasons already mentioned.


a guy i use to live with had a book about old/primitive tattoos and i unfortunately dont have access to it anymore. 




i also have two large swasis on my thighs.    but they are of Buddhist origin not nazi.

Title: Re: Tattoos
Post by: bitewerksMTB on March 31, 2011, 12:22:26 AM

I got Gakkin from this same shop to do a tattoo of Meiko Kaji (Female Prisoner Scorpion style) down my leg when he was visiting Melbourne 2 and 1/2 years ago.  Was very pleased with his work and the result, and he seemed stoked to be able to do it which was great too.


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Let's see the FEMALE PRISONER SCORPION tattoo!

F&V has some nice work. I'm not a tattoo fan. I appreciate it but have never, ever seen anything I'd want forever.
Title: Re: Tattoos
Post by: P-K on March 31, 2011, 10:46:32 AM
F&V's gasmasked-nun-sleeve is AWESOME, great shading work.
Title: Re: Tattoos
Post by: andy vomit on April 01, 2011, 12:40:11 AM
Quote from: P-K on March 31, 2011, 10:46:32 AM
F&V's gasmasked-nun-sleeve is AWESOME, great shading work.

agreed, one of the best pieces i've ever seen.
Title: Re: Tattoos
Post by: cipher chris on April 02, 2011, 07:35:16 AM
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on March 31, 2011, 12:22:26 AM
Let's see the FEMALE PRISONER SCORPION tattoo!
(http://iheartnoise.com/cipherproductions/meiko_kaji.jpg)
It's wrapped around my leg too much to get in a single photo, but that's the gist.  She has crows to her left and right, again all in black.

My most recent is Laura Gemser 'Emanuelle In The Country'-style (again difficult to photo/capture in a single shot):
(http://iheartnoise.com/cipherproductions/laura_gemser.jpg)
Title: Re: Tattoos
Post by: XE on April 03, 2011, 04:28:32 PM
Quote from: andy vomit on April 01, 2011, 12:40:11 AM
Quote from: P-K on March 31, 2011, 10:46:32 AM
F&V's gasmasked-nun-sleeve is AWESOME, great shading work.

agreed, one of the best pieces i've ever seen.


(http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/5826/l4a0b3b4828beaa16c089a5.jpg) (http://img828.imageshack.us/i/l4a0b3b4828beaa16c089a5.jpg/)

yeah me me me...
Title: Re: Tattoos
Post by: HONOR_IS_KING! on April 04, 2011, 06:21:17 PM
Quote from: P-K on March 22, 2011, 12:53:15 AM
relation to work/life you mean "what it means" or how people react to it?

What it may mean to you. People's reactions are whatever for the most part but some times can be funny.

Nice work XE! Incredible shading.

My newest:

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q315/Powerandtheglory/Photoon2011-03-19at0907.jpg)
Title: Re: Tattoos
Post by: ConcreteMascara on July 19, 2012, 08:55:40 PM
Olympic torchbearer gets mis-spelled "oylmpic" tattoo. Hahahaha.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-18890901

Title: Re: Tattoos
Post by: martialgodmask on July 20, 2012, 12:54:26 AM
Hahaha. Good shit. Fucking olympics.
Title: Re: Tattoos
Post by: RyanWreck on July 20, 2012, 04:26:57 AM
Best example of shading...

(http://i.imgur.com/5p2yR.jpg)
Title: Re: Tattoos
Post by: ConcreteMascara on November 09, 2012, 06:12:18 PM
My back tattoo based on Yog-Sothoth (not drawn by me). This picture is from the first session in January.

(http://concretemascara.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/photo1.jpg?w=584)
Title: Re: Tattoos
Post by: ConcreteMascara on December 13, 2012, 07:09:14 PM
After the second sitting.
(http://concretemascara.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/img_1373.jpg?w=584)


And after the third, yesterday.
(http://concretemascara.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/img_1416.jpg?w=584)
Title: Re: Tattoos
Post by: SiClark on December 13, 2012, 08:05:59 PM
That is looking great so far!
Title: Re: Tattoos
Post by: bitewerksMTB on December 13, 2012, 11:18:58 PM
Came across links to this Russian tattooist who seems to do ok work:

http://negativekarma.ru/rabotyi-black-gray/
http://negativekarma.ru/rabotyi-color/
Title: Re: Tattoos
Post by: Bleak Existence on December 14, 2012, 01:31:10 AM
amazing!
Title: Re: Tattoos
Post by: P-K on December 14, 2012, 10:18:51 AM
tattoo of german throwing grenade : priceless !
Title: Re: Tattoos
Post by: RyanWreck on December 14, 2012, 05:55:09 PM
Quote from: ConcreteMascara on November 09, 2012, 06:12:18 PM
My back tattoo based on Yog-Sothoth (not drawn by me). This picture is from the first session in January.

IMAGE

That's pretty fucking awesome. I would have to trust the artist a lot for him to do a piece that large on my back. How much does a piece like that set you back? How many hours and sessions went into it so far? Is it finished?

Has anyone ever been denied? When I was living in Phoenix, AZ I went in to a shop to get the simple "sticks surrounding an axe" that the Italian Fascist party used, and which America uses now in Congress. He wouldn't give it to me. He was Mexican and I think he figured that fascist = racist, he did not understood what it meant and he didn't care to, just kicked me straight out. I still haven't went to get it since.
Title: Re: Tattoos
Post by: ConcreteMascara on December 14, 2012, 06:16:42 PM
Quote from: RyanWreck on December 14, 2012, 05:55:09 PM
Quote from: ConcreteMascara on November 09, 2012, 06:12:18 PM
My back tattoo based on Yog-Sothoth (not drawn by me). This picture is from the first session in January.

IMAGE

That's pretty fucking awesome. I would have to trust the artist a lot for him to do a piece that large on my back. How much does a piece like that set you back? How many hours and sessions went into it so far? Is it finished?


Let's see. the artist, Andrew Johnson-Lally, worked on the actual drawing for about 3 months. The first sitting was 6.5 hours, which was 90% of the outline, and cost I think $800, with tip. The second session was 4 hours and $500. The third session was 2.5 hours and $350. So it's fucking expensive. And obviously not even half done.
Title: Re: Tattoos
Post by: P-K on December 14, 2012, 06:17:36 PM
mine, still loads of work to be done (pics by Silken Tofu):
(http://sphotos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/31947_1475317206838_7374531_n.jpg)
(http://sphotos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/31947_1475317086835_312708_n.jpg)
forgot to shave lol
Title: Re: Tattoos
Post by: ConcreteMascara on December 14, 2012, 07:58:43 PM
very nice
Title: Re: Tattoos
Post by: Hal Hutchinson on December 23, 2012, 10:47:16 AM
(http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/1127/shiftwheeltatoo.jpg)

SHIFT LOGO
Title: Re: Tattoos
Post by: online prowler on January 31, 2013, 04:17:06 AM
Norway's ugliest tattoo contest:

http://p3.no/hallop3/hvilken-av-disse-er-styggest/ (http://p3.no/hallop3/hvilken-av-disse-er-styggest/)
Title: Re: Tattoos
Post by: HongKongGoolagong on January 31, 2013, 04:50:16 AM
On my thirtieth birthday I got a small tattoo on my left bicep which depicts a Sacred Heart overlain with the words ONE PER CENT on a scroll.

Just after my 42nd birthday I got a slightly larger tattoo on my right bicep of intertwining spirals in red and green (for stop/go) with the words TIME BECOMES SPACE.

My plans are one more on each arm around fifty and sixty then start on my face aged seventy. I like tattoos a lot even if I see some very bad ones around since the mass popularity. I am very glad I waited until I was 30 and thought about it a lot to get my first one.
Title: Re: Tattoos
Post by: Hal Hutchinson on April 28, 2013, 02:00:08 PM


(https://imageshack.us/scaled/large/198/photopum.jpg)
Title: Re: Tattoos
Post by: ConcreteMascara on April 30, 2013, 05:13:07 PM
Quote from: Hal Hutchinson on April 28, 2013, 02:00:08 PM


(https://imageshack.us/scaled/large/198/photopum.jpg)

fucking classy!
Title: Re: Tattoos
Post by: Dr Alex on May 11, 2013, 09:46:16 PM
I have two tattoos:
Einstürzende Neubauten logo on my leg and "Pure Nothing Worship" down on my back.
Title: Re: Tattoos
Post by: dubduboverlord on May 13, 2013, 06:28:22 PM
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7043/6994386387_8069cb9002_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Tattoos
Post by: Major Carew on August 01, 2014, 09:05:57 PM

Planning to get some Russian style work done in the somewhat near future...Makes a great deal of western traditional and Japanese style work pale in comparison. There's some great books available with drawings & photos by Danzig Baldaev, a prison guard who documented the work he saw...

Apparently, when the work is done in prison, ink is made from melted rubber (from the soles of boots or tyres) and the tattoo guns are made from toothbrushes,guitar strings & motors from cassette players.

The film 'Eastern Promises' shed some light on this kind of work, but I think they should have gone into greater detail about it....

http://vimeo.com/14960241 (http://vimeo.com/14960241)
Title: Re: Tattoos
Post by: hkso on August 11, 2014, 06:42:11 PM
Hal, check out this documentary....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJyaSXoSQtU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJyaSXoSQtU)
Title: Re: Tattoos
Post by: tiny_tove on August 12, 2014, 10:41:15 AM
Quote from: Major Carew on August 01, 2014, 09:05:57 PM

Planning to get some Russian style work done in the somewhat near future...Makes a great deal of western traditional and Japanese style work pale in comparison. There's some great books available with drawings & photos by Danzig Baldaev, a prison guard who documented the work he saw...

Apparently, when the work is done in prison, ink is made from melted rubber (from the soles of boots or tyres) and the tattoo guns are made from toothbrushes,guitar strings & motors from cassette players.

The film 'Eastern Promises' shed some light on this kind of work, but I think they should have gone into greater detail about it....

http://vimeo.com/14960241 (http://vimeo.com/14960241)

you should check this book: http://www.theguardian.com/books/2010/jul/10/siberian-education-nicolai-lilin-review

the movie is not that great (although better than most Salvatores' flick), but it has something.
Title: Re: Tattoos
Post by: Major Carew on August 12, 2014, 08:36:24 PM
Quote from: hkso on August 11, 2014, 06:42:11 PM
Hal, check out this documentary....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJyaSXoSQtU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJyaSXoSQtU)
Quote from: hkso on August 11, 2014, 06:42:11 PM
Hal, check out this documentary....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJyaSXoSQtU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJyaSXoSQtU)

Thank you very much!

This is one of the guys I hope to go to in the not too distant future for some work,maybe some of the russian style stuff,maybe some other more traditional & old school style work too.... he tattoos just down the road from me : http://instagram.com/edgarivanov (http://instagram.com/edgarivanov)

At the same studio is a guy called Vlad......I have a consultation booked with him & hope to see him at some point, he does really good old school style work : http://www.tumblr.com/search/vlad%20octavian (http://www.tumblr.com/search/vlad%20octavian)
Title: Re: Tattoos
Post by: Bob on August 19, 2014, 05:40:21 AM
Oldest preserved tattoos in the world.
http://siberiantimes.com/culture/others/features/siberian-princess-reveals-her-2500-year-old-tattoos/