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Today Genocide Organ finished artwork and mastering of the new CD /LP - : Under-Kontrakt : will be officially announced today latest tomorrow, estimated release date is latest 14.5.2011 - hopefully before!
Exciting news!
latest 14/5 you say?
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hell yeah!
the subject of the cover 100% fits their concept. brilliant.
I'm guessing Blackwater but it's only a guess.
There is also the Archive II 10" and the Save Our Slaves reissue announced for the gig. I'm going. Anyone else?
I'll be there too. very excited.
official press release:
http://store.tesco-germany.com/cgi-bin/shopper.cgi?preadd=action&key=CDXGTESCO085
"the latest new Genocide Organ album dates back to 2005 - now in 2011 the world is challenged by wellknown old and antic patterns and presumed economic reasons. That of military contractors - whether it have been the cretian archers, the celtic cavlery, the germanic body guards, the swiss guards - muslim or christian motivated soldiers, spartans and greeks - european or asian - UN - Forces or private contractors - those people always seeked more than money - the record here deals with the overall topic of mercenary or more. Like always Genocide Organ´s music is straight forward - expanding all genres and categories. A powerful assault and aggressive undertone interchanges with a dense depressive mood - all tracks are new but have been partly played live during their last live appearance. The record is an experience.
Tracklisting:
Error
It´s over
Forever Whore
Denard Prince
I´m with you all days
Tamil Eelam
Armor Group
S.Low
The lord is my light
We are here to have a good time
The vinyl will be limited to 500 copies only! Please order the LP with your recon unit number... ...and you will receive the patch! Tesco 085"
Quote from: TheGreatEcstasy on March 22, 2011, 04:59:05 PM
Save Our Slaves reissue announced
Fucking Finally. I'm hoping to acquire this on LP, but I'd be happy with a digipack style reissue ala Leichenlinie.
Quote from: TheGreatEcstasy on March 22, 2011, 04:59:05 PM
I'm guessing Blackwater but it's only a guess.
There is also the Archive II 10" and the Save Our Slaves reissue announced for the gig. I'm going. Anyone else?
when did they announce save our slaves for the show? i have only heard about the new archive.
what exactly is that recon unit number? number of the tickets for the show? tesco ordering number? hum?
Years ago, you got to apply this number. Kind of ID card, which in the future, would be the number to get the freebies / specials in future. I'm guessing it's too late now to get it. Certainly can be annoying for someone now, but in good old method used in BDN great death, some LJDLP releases and other industrialists.
its just a nr that came with the :remember: 3xlp box......that nr gave me an extra dogtag, and that's it i think, can't think of any other extra's lol
thanks!
Quote from: P-K on March 23, 2011, 07:29:53 PM
its just a nr that came with the :remember: 3xlp box......that nr gave me an extra dogtag, and that's it i think, can't think of any other extra's lol
I think it was actually already with the "In-Konflikt" LP from 2004?
obciously not in the live in japan LP hehehe
pre-ordered that LP. asked tesco and those cards will be available again with that new album...
It's too bad Tesco USA doesn't license the vinyl for US release. I'm not pre-ordering. I'll grab the LP IF I can after I hear something about it.
tesco USA has some copies for preorder, i just grabbed mine.
Same here, i've just pre-ordered my LP copy.
Quote from: bogskaggmannen on March 23, 2011, 09:14:38 PM
Quote from: P-K on March 23, 2011, 07:29:53 PM
its just a nr that came with the :remember: 3xlp box......that nr gave me an extra dogtag, and that's it i think, can't think of any other extra's lol
I think it was actually already with the "In-Konflikt" LP from 2004?
Jes and in the Remember DCD/BOx, Live in Japan LP too
Tickets for Mannheim are sold out. 2 weeks to go!
Quote from: TheGreatEcstasy on May 01, 2011, 05:11:14 PM
Tickets for Mannheim are sold out. 2 weeks to go!
yessss. can't wait.
From the Isomer MySpace:
A six track EP of all new material, Nil by Mouth, will be available for sale at the Genocide Organ gig in Mannheim, 14th May. Featuring contributions from Mark Groves (Absoluten Calfeutrail, Dead Boomers etc), and released by Australian stalwart Cipher Productions. Limited to 200 copies.
Copies will be available for sale after the gig straight from Cipher: http://www.iheartnoise.com/cipherproductions
Probably not straight after, but within a week or so. VERY pleased to have done this CD with David.
Nice work on Isomer scoring this gig.
Would like to imagine G.O. getting a wink-wink-nudge-nudge to do a show in Australia but I'm not exactly hopeful. :-\
Australia is not Japan ;-)
Artwork looks terrible, and what's with the hyphens?
I'm sure this sounds fucking bad ass though. Can't wait!
Quote from: P-K on May 04, 2011, 03:21:04 PM
Australia is not Japan ;-)
In many, many more ways than one I'm afraid. :P (Although having lived in both I certainly appreciate what both have to offer...!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efLNb9NPJYc&feature=player_embedded
Looks like an intro for a computer game
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efLNb9NPJYc&feature=player_embedded
Quote from: AC on May 10, 2011, 05:18:42 PM
Looks like an intro for a computer game
I agree -- while the video successfully conveys an ominous sense of corporate mercenary conflict and armed violence, for me the clip is a little too slick for what I think of as Genocide Organ. Very powerful nonlinear video editing software, and the computers to run it, are now quite available to most anyone with a few thousand dollars, resulting in more video productions that use (and sometimes overuse) editing techniques, sound effects, and video treatments that not too many years ago would have been mainly available to professional video production houses.
I think I'd prefer the same trailer with just straight, unaltered video, with the occasional exception of making some scenes look as if they were caught in the field with a smart phone, using mostly just cuts for video transitions between scenes, and little or no special effects applied to the text.
I assume the discussed video is the trailor (sic)? I liked the vocals. I'd pick the LP up in a heartbeat if it wasn't a preorder. No reason why GO would need to get your money upfront to pay for their releases (same for Haus Arafna)...
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on May 11, 2011, 01:57:08 AMNo reason why GO would need to get your money upfront to pay for their releases (same for Haus Arafna)...
who the fuck does? such a scummy practice.
To be honest I think I'd prefer a PE band not to make a trailer for their upcoming album. Wanna make a video, fine. Not that I care much but no harm in that. Promo "Trailors" give me bad associations to German rivethead culture. Then again it's Tesco, not F&V.
And agreed on the preorder bullshit. I find it lame when it's a underground tapelabel, but even more when it's an established label, who for sure don't need the cash flow in advance.
Quote from: AC on May 11, 2011, 11:18:43 AMGerman rivethead culture
I used to despise those but after encountering one too many snooty noise halfwits in converse and ironic moustaches I decided I actually like so called rivetheads more. They're friendlier and seem to have more loyalty towards their "scene".
My problem with this video is Propergol. It reeks of his over the top effects and huge banging sounds. Although I don't deny that he is very skilled but everything I've heard from him sounds vulgar. The machine gunned GO logo at the end takes the biscuit. When it could be like a jammed radio signal breaking though an oppressive sepia tinted broadcast it just becomes Hollywood. I wish he'd stick to mastering. He does that very well.
However, by the sound of the music in the video it seems like GO is in fine form. I know I'm way to old to act like this but I'm super excited for the weekend. Driving through Europe, getting drunk and bashing heads with people up front with GO blasting from the PA is gonna rule! It did last year.
The Music sounds a lot like Brighter Death Now...
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on May 11, 2011, 01:57:08 AM(same for Haus Arafna)...
i can be wrong, but they don't do pre-orders.
the trailer is way too slick, idd very Propergol-ish.......but no doubt the lp wil be good.
rivetheads, LOL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWveFfzbZCM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWveFfzbZCM) !!! :-)
Quote from: Goat93 on May 11, 2011, 12:50:09 PMThe Music sounds a lot like Brighter Death Now...
I blissfully disagree. :-D
haus arafna usually don't do pre-orders.
so, who will be there this saturday?
me & 2 other i know of
Quote from: Goat93 on May 11, 2011, 12:50:09 PM
The Music sounds a lot like Brighter Death Now...
the music sounds a lot like genocide organ
http://www.galakthorroe.de/e_028_a.html
Rel. date is June but it's already sold out so I assume it is from pre-ordering... Previous LP sold out before official rel. date also (IF I'm remembering correctly). Or maybe it's all reserves to their distros...?
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on May 11, 2011, 07:04:32 PM
http://www.galakthorroe.de/e_028_a.html
Rel. date is June but it's already sold out so I assume it is from pre-ordering... Previous LP sold out before official rel. date also (IF I'm remembering correctly). Or maybe it's all reserves to their distros...?
strange, last time i ordered there new stuff (LP) i got it the same week.......with this batch i didn't get an email, but the usual paper folder/catalogue dated april2011......saying nothing about preordering but clearly stating 'available now & immediate delivery', site said that costumers allready in their files get priority or something like that.
anyhow, more GO talk! ;-)
In the past, didn't Tesco do something like "we're taking orders until date X, and however many orders we get, that will be how many records we press." If my memory serves and they did indeed do that in the past, did they call that "preordering", or was it sold under some other banner? I seem to remember one of the Genocide Organ releases being marketed like that. Which, of course, meant that it was instantly out of print and collectible.
the ArchiveI 10" ?
I assumed pre-order since an official rel. date is stated...
Is there any rumours of a reiss for "Save Our Slaves"? Vinyl didn't sound very good from what I remember so that would be good for a remastered cd or better pressing. Seems like the records were paper-thin? "SOS" & ":Remember:" are my faves. Wanted to like the "Klan Kountry" 7" but it just seemed to be lacking something. The Japan live record is weird too. Felt like it was edited oddly; can't remember specifics as I only listened to it once. Vaguely remembering liking one side then the opposite just completely lost me.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on May 11, 2011, 07:04:32 PM
http://www.galakthorroe.de/e_028_a.html
Rel. date is June but it's already sold out so I assume it is from pre-ordering... Previous LP sold out before official rel. date also (IF I'm remembering correctly). Or maybe it's all reserves to their distros...?
they wrote to their regular customers with the possibility to order the new record before they published it online. but actually the records were available at that time already and have been shipped instantly. so I wouldn't call it pre-orders...
Quote from: P-K on March 22, 2011, 04:37:28 PM
latest 14/5 you say?
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hell yeah!
Any comments on the shows last night?
totally great. one of the most intense shows I've ever seen. absolutely brilliant. WPF!
4-hour drive, only saw a bit of Mannheim, a mixture of industry, containers & Borgerhout :-)
nice venue, perfect for this kind of things imho
P231 : didn't know what to expect.....started of with ultraheavy bassdrones that bored me fast, then it almost went Raster-Noton (incl the visuals). good work but boring to watch someone work on 2 macbooks.......pity the visuals weren't thàt good.
Isomer : never checked Isomer, i heard it used to be more "ambient" than this set......i heard a lot of ex.order, some melodic Dagda Mor.....german pe. sounded ok but the pc started crapping out a lot & then it was over. .....
:GO: .....short religeous intro & kicked of with Klaus barbie.....this was one of the most vicious moshpits i ever saw, didn't join (bad back & too many piercings to rip) but it was perfect. new & old tracks, 1 with Dave/Grey Wolves (don't remember title but i'm 100% shure its on the Catholic Priests lp), Hail America, WPF, et etc ...heavy throbbing twin MS20 turned crowd extatic......the perfect gig. german-style pe : there's nothing like it.
Any word on that rumored Save Our Slaves vinyl reissue? Or extra copies of that Archive II 10"?
i'm guessing leftover 10" 's will be sold via Tesco......
Ya I figured, but when that first Archive 10" came out and I emailed them I got no response. I imagine they probably got flooded with emails from people looking for the same thing, and probably will again.
Quote from: P-K on May 15, 2011, 07:11:52 PM
i'm guessing leftover 10" 's will be sold via Tesco......
Were sold in some Hours i think
Were they selling the new album at the show?
Quote from: Brad on May 16, 2011, 01:26:23 AM
Were they selling the new album at the show?
only the CD-version.
Quote from: P-K on May 15, 2011, 04:53:59 PM4-hour drive, only saw a bit of Mannheim, a mixture of industry, containers & Borgerhout :-)
Hahaha, great description!
I guess it's only for people from Belgium though. Or does the reputation of Borgerhout has reached international status? :p
no international status, but many will get the point ;-)
QuoteLocal references to this part of the town as "Borgerokko" are believed to derive from the higher proportion of residents from north Africa, many being of Morrocan descent.
I've listened to Under-Kontrakt ten or so times now and I think it's a good album. Better than In-Konflikt which I as probably one of the few consider a very strong album. Under-Kontrakt is denser, heavier and generally more full on than the very cold sounding In-Konflikt. The artwork looks much better irl than the jpgs we've seen here.
Great news. I'm also very partial to In-Konflikt myself. The first half, really the 2nd quarter, We Care For You, Death Hypes and A Peculiar Crusade of In-Konlfikt are all very very good.
Quote from: Goat93 on May 15, 2011, 10:45:48 PM
Quote from: P-K on May 15, 2011, 07:11:52 PM
i'm guessing leftover 10" 's will be sold via Tesco......
Were sold in some Hours i think
Can anyone confirm there actually were copies for sale at the Tesco webpage after the show?
Quote from: bogskaggmannen on May 19, 2011, 04:56:19 PM
Quote from: Goat93 on May 15, 2011, 10:45:48 PM
Quote from: P-K on May 15, 2011, 07:11:52 PM
i'm guessing leftover 10" 's will be sold via Tesco......
Were sold in some Hours i think
Can anyone confirm there actually were copies for sale at the Tesco webpage after the show?
From Archive I? Yes, there were a Newsflyer spread around from Tesco and it were also in the Webshop
i think it was about ArchiveII ? ;-)
Archive II, yes. I'm assuming they didn't sell all 300 copies at the show.
they're sold out. everyone was walking away from the stall with 3-4 copies each.
Quote from: jc on May 19, 2011, 10:58:35 PM
they're sold out. everyone was walking away from the stall with 3-4 copies each.
A big FUCK YOU to the fans. You can't allow people to grab more than 1-2 copies each. Even if they go get friends to buy another copy or two, you have to do something to screw with the flippers. sad.
Quote from: bogskaggmannen on May 19, 2011, 08:06:52 PM
Archive II, yes. I'm assuming they didn't sell all 300 copies at the show.
I havn't seen anything about them but the LP is also not out yet...
Quote from: jc on May 19, 2011, 10:58:35 PM
they're sold out. everyone was walking away from the stall with 3-4 copies each.
bullshit. they were selling just one copy per guest. stamped the fucking tickets.
Quote from: pontifx on May 19, 2011, 11:10:17 PM
Quote from: jc on May 19, 2011, 10:58:35 PM
they're sold out. everyone was walking away from the stall with 3-4 copies each.
bullshit. they were selling just one copy per guest. stamped the fucking tickets.
I second bullshit on that. They were shit hard on one copy per person only. Besides, everyone walking away with 3-4 copies each would mean a pressing of 1020-1360 copies. With all of them hand numbered that is not possible. In short, shut the fuck up jc.
imho, good 10", 1 track that doesn't do a thing for me, 2 solid brooding GO's, and one raging blaster (God Send Us I)
For anyone doubting, these are completely sold out and no copies will be sold online.
300 10"s pressed, 340 tickets sold plus friends and other bands present = a very good chance of it having sold out at the gig. "Everyone" walking away with 3-4 each = total bullshit. My theory is you couldn't sponge up ten or possibly even any copy at all for ebay/discogs this time so instead you try to stir up shit. Just shut the fuck up jc!
does someone know the Word "sarcasm"?
Does someone know the word "profiteer"? Jc is one prime example.
I don't care that much about his business model, let that be on his conscience, but spreading outright lies about people is not OK.
Nice! Just got the exclusive link to order the record! 21.50 well spent! Looking forward to ebaying my extras!
Quote from: TheGreatEcstasy on May 20, 2011, 12:52:51 PM
300 10"s pressed, 340 tickets sold plus friends and other bands present = a very good chance of it having sold out at the gig. "Everyone" walking away with 3-4 each = total bullshit. My theory is you couldn't sponge up ten or possibly even any copy at all for ebay/discogs this time so instead you try to stir up shit. Just shut the fuck up jc!
That's it!
So what is the 10" that sold out at a performance? Nevermind. It's on discogs. Maybe someone will bootleg both 10"'s as a LP...
Listening to a download of the U-K & it's pretty good. Better than expected but nothing earth-shattering great.
it was briefly listed on the website, but the link wasn't public and you had to receive an email from them in order to access it.
" it was briefly listed on the website, but the link wasn't public and you had to receive an email from them in order to access it. "
This was for this 10" that sold out at a gig? That's a whole new level of stupid collector gimmicks.
jc makes fun about it all the time and you beliefe it always...:)
I'm very easy to get one over on because I expect everyone to be stupid from the get-go.
Who is jc?
i'll download some program that creates jpegs later and post a screenshot of my order email.
It is the rules of small edition that some people get and others don't.
There will always be brokers involved in releases that are worth being involved for them.
Nowadays auctions are easier and price inflates quick. Sometimes you get the best price week after item is sold out, rather than stashing it for decade like some have done.
I only wonder, is it worth of it? How much one could earn about selling couple extra copies to make transactions worth of ones time? I mean, few tapes bought for 6,- and sold for 20,- few months later, hardly is very profitable business. I mean - if you work, the hours pay is probably more than profit margin of usual UG broker on certain release. Only once in a while one may hit the jackpot. Paying 20,- for item and auctioning it for 100 or more. But still. 100? What's that in context of regular salary of working man in the west? It would be a lot, if it would happen all the time. If it happens once or twice a year, I can't see much benefit for seller. Other than the satisfaction to be in the game of rare releases?
I'm still waiting to hear it new GO and hope it will arrive in near future.
This is listed as for sale on discogs, limited to 17 copies:
Diutesc / Genocide Organ - Unknown Knownledge (LP, W/Lbl, Ltd + Acetate, 7", W/Lbl, Ltd)
Anyone know anything about that? I think it said it's a Jpn release.
I use to get multiple copies for sale or trade. Some things I'd sell later to make a little profit to pay for something else. Doubt many are doing it to pay bills or maybe they're hoarders?
"Archive II" 10" sold on eBay last night for 125 EUR, ha ha!
While I can see the point in doing a show-only release to attract people to the gigs, I think this solution only makes it a hassle for the label as G.O. is so "big" that interest far succeeds the edition size. But, each to his own I guess. Maybe they should do a CD collecting all Archive-releases later on?
Quote from: bogskaggmannen on May 30, 2011, 11:53:27 AMG.O. is so "big"
GO is big enough to join the same subgenre as Korn http://www.freerecordshop.be/music/under-kontrakt-4038846000850 (http://www.freerecordshop.be/music/under-kontrakt-4038846000850)LOL
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on May 29, 2011, 10:04:34 PM
I only wonder, is it worth of it?
Yes, for some People it is. They can nearly Live from buying and reselling "Rare" Stuff. Otherwise if i see again and again on Ebay the Stuff selling for 10x of the normal Price, it works...
discogs is full of them, especially Coil & NWW arteditions, LJDLP-bootlegs, etc etc seemed very popular to sell for $$$ and pretty fast resell for $$$$$ .....people like "ulixes" make a living out of it imho
Quote from: P-K on May 30, 2011, 12:32:17 PMGO is big enough to join the same subgenre as Korn http://www.freerecordshop.be/music/under-kontrakt-4038846000850 (http://www.freerecordshop.be/music/under-kontrakt-4038846000850)LOL
Haha, that's retarded!
In Metal it also seems to happen a lot. I think it's correct that the profit made isn't that big when compared to what one earns on a month due to average paid work. I just think people see it as very easy money though...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rw7QlxGQWI4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rw7QlxGQWI4)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0TKH0qNVQ0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0TKH0qNVQ0)
Got my copy of the album yesterday and have been listening to it pretty consistently since. It strikes me as a very easy-listening album for this genre - very well recorded and mastered, smooth, nice and simple structure, nothing particularly outstanding or innovative and actually a very good album for that. One of those albums I put on when I want something pleasant and not too involving or grating.
Archive II hits the mark a little more than Archive I, but while each is interesting to the involved it's hard to see them as essential. GxOx strikes me as a project which leaves material unreleased for a reason, and while generally the 'Archive' material is as robust as anything it misses that bigger picture which I feel the albums run by.
Isomer CDs will be available from me any day now, but if any one can't wait then please contact.
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on June 07, 2011, 06:46:28 AM
Got my copy of the album yesterday and have been listening to it pretty consistently since. It strikes me as a very easy-listening album for this genre - very well recorded and mastered, smooth, nice and simple structure, nothing particularly outstanding or innovative and actually a very good album for that. One of those albums I put on when I want something pleasant and not too involving or grating.
I'd agree pretty much 100%
My major complaint is that I don't think the artwork looks any better in person. Especially the pixelated as hell collage on the insert. It must have taken them a whole hour to put it together :p
the insert with the In-Konflikt lp was also very dull, cut&paste, :-/
I got a copy of the LP a few days ago, and after a few listens I am finding it a little "Genocide Organ by numbers". The final two tracks on Side 2 are above the average, but the other pieces are offering me nothing new - or anything for my ears to "grab onto".
I like the LP artwork though, and will sew my patch on my coat soon!!
I find it strange that (as a recon memeber) I did not get a message about purchasing "Archive 2" 10", I sense some scam is going on here.
Archive has nothing to do with Recon, it's only linked to live-events.......
tesco + scam = LOL
I thought the Archive Series was a limited release thing for members - my mistake. I have #1 10"EP. Beautiful record.
I did not mean that Tesco org were scam merchants, I think there are some folk about who are scamming Tesco Org / G.O. vis-a-vis this release. Lowlifes.
And everyone were expecting a fucking miracle..time goes and leaves stamps.
just received my lp, .....and i like it a lot, sleeve = nice, insert is cheap, card : nice......music = great. i like this more than In -Konflikt, sounds less industrial, more heavy synth, great vocal effects, from hard throbbing to slow brooding tracks.....maybe nothing new, but GO seem to evolve with each album.
nice!
i've spinned the lp maybe 2-3 times and have yet to find much to like about it. it's not BAD, there's just no real highlights. feels like it's always some simple synth pattern going through the whole track, some vocals over it with generic p.e. vocal effects and some sample that goes together with the theme of the album... it's not that there would be something WRONG with these elements, GO are very good at doing their thing. especially the vocal style always grabs me. it's just... there's nothing out of the ordinary, no "hits" or strong fist-to-the-face pieces.
i'm not very familiar with latest GO albums. after "REMEMBER" i've only heard "LIVE IN JAPAN" lp and some newish 7''. couldn't say how this compares to last few releases.
Archive II 10" is GREAT, new LP is good. Each time it gets better, but clearly it's more about adjusting into reality. Adjusting brain to get more from the less.. While the 10", its just pure gold from beginning to end.
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on June 22, 2011, 10:42:13 PM
the 10", its just pure gold from beginning to end.
absolutely! totally amazing stuff.....god sent us!
I don't know how many of people bought only CD? Or how many bought the CD and LP. But when listening both formats, I felt tempted to see if there is something weird in my head/ears, but no. Simply, compare the formats and in my opinion, LP is way better sounding. The extra distortion hides the "digital artifacts", it boosts different frequencies than on CD. Especially audible in Tamil Eelam. CD version has this nearly glitchy quality, while LP is raw and forceful.
Unfortunately cover artwork is just the other way round. CD works fine, LP is just too little amount of pixels stretched to LP dimensions. I doubt I will ever listen CD version anymore, but LP gets better all the time. Easily been the most listened LP in this household for summer.
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on July 03, 2011, 08:07:04 PM
LP is just too little amount of pixels stretched to LP dimensions.
same problem as live japan LP. seems shitty jpeg is the new newspaper clipping?
This album is a lot like the Ke/Hil LP in that it has grown on me with every listen. The vinyl itself sounds great. I haven't heard the CD version but I can believe that the surface noise of the record may counter-act any overly digital sound. And the synths are just great. Perhaps a bit more rumble and crumble could have added something but as it is I think it works. My only complaint besides the previously stated one about the artwork is there is no song that really grabs me like Black Snow did on the Ke/Hil LP.
KE/HIL - Hellstation is one of the albums of 2011 IMO
still haven't received my LP. Should check into this..
Quote from: TheGreatEcstasy on July 15, 2011, 08:56:48 PM
KE/HIL - Hellstation is one of the albums of 2011 IMO
Didn't it come out in 2010?
I think it didn't get into many hands before 2011
I've listened to both the Ke/Hil album and the new GO a handful of times and I agree that the Ke/Hil is superior. Not by a huge margin, it just manages to hold my attention better than Under-Kontrakt.
Someone else said it, but not much sticks out on the new GO album. It's still a good album, but it's lacking something. It seems like maybe they're just going through the motions now, getting a little bored?
Looking forward to the Ke/Hil interview in the new SI!
Some upcoming plans - Genocide Organ will perform in Russia-Moscow/ April 2012, around the same time we will perform one show in Germany, yet to be announced.
This years release plans will see us working on:
- Live in Mannheim 14.5.11 DVD (the recording audio/visual was too good to be wasted)
: october/nov.
- The rise of American Civilization (incl. Klan Kountry, Save our Slaves and More)
: winter
- Vinyl version of "same" CD
anyaway enjoyed a lot KE/HIL.
This is the kind of sounds I am mostly fond of.
It says klan kountry (=7") and save our slaves (12"+7" set) and more.. so I assume that's what it is...
I was mentioned in facebook Tesco has also mentioned plan of G.O. / Grey Wolves 12"...?
Quote from: tiny_tove on August 10, 2011, 10:25:46 AM
This years release plans will see us working on:
- Live in Mannheim 14.5.11 DVD (the recording audio/visual was too good to be wasted)
: october/nov.
- The rise of American Civilization (incl. Klan Kountry, Save our Slaves and More)
: winter
- Vinyl version of "same" CD
Anyone know of any updates to these announced plans?
http://store.tesco-germany.com/cgi-bin/shopper.cgi?preadd=action&key=VNYGTESCO050
CD version of this was already announced, and so was represses of several other GO titles - the regular albums.
Is the self-titled rel. any good? $35 preorder from TescoUSA...
There's a nice Tesco hoodie coming next month just in time for summer! $69.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on May 22, 2012, 09:46:01 PM
Is the self-titled rel. any good? $35 preorder from TescoUSA...
my favorite GO record. will be picking this one up and
STILL waiting for SOS reissue.
let's talk about KwaZulu-NaTaL ;-)
i like it, i'm not thrilled but it's a good recording, an extention to Remember imho....
Quote from: P-K on February 27, 2014, 12:37:49 PM
let's talk about KwaZulu-NaTaL ;-)
If somebody knows where I can pick it up? It is already sold out from Tesco.
Quote from: deathcamp on March 02, 2014, 11:15:15 PM
Quote from: P-K on February 27, 2014, 12:37:49 PM
let's talk about KwaZulu-NaTaL ;-)
If somebody knows where I can pick it up? It is already sold out from Tesco.
I'm also after this. Tesco USA were only given 10 copies so it sold out before I saw they had it, & it sold out very quickly from the German site as well. I'll trade a good chunk of stuff for this record.
Actualy they have so much Sellers, that they reduce Pre Orders to 1 as well.
Quote from: Goat93 on March 03, 2014, 09:22:09 AMthat they reduce Pre Orders to 1 as well.
good!
not shure i understand this right :
QuoteRecorded shortly after the 1994 april elections in South Africa this release reflects a live show from 1994 to accompany the events in Pretoria /S.A..
1994...that would be Dresden or France (Deadly Actions) ? A rehearsal for those shows ?
soon : Archive IV !
Ordered, thanks to you, P-K! It is already sold-out...
Well, it was available for almost a whole WEEK...
I don't understand that they don't press more copies. Or is it a conscious approach to keep their cult status?
A lot of GO material from Tesco is available on their Bandcamp page (http://tescogermany.bandcamp.com/), I imagine Volume IV will follow suite.
Quote from: deathcamp on August 24, 2014, 03:48:05 PM
I don't understand that they don't press more copies. Or is it a conscious approach to keep their cult status?
its pressed 300 copies, not soo low at all. Think that some Peiople think they can make easy money with it now and buy like Hell several Copies
To further hammer on the complaints about the quantities of GO vinyl pressings...I find it interesting that they press 500 copies of that recent GO/Grey Wolves 12". Seems like THAT one should get 250-300 copies and other stuff like this new archive release and the recent live LP should get 500. Oh well.
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its pressed 300 copies, not soo low at all.
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It is sold-out in very few days, on pre-order. So yes, I think that 300 copies aren't enough at all.
Nevermind, this time I will have my copy, heh!
Quote from: RG on August 26, 2014, 03:32:58 AM
To further hammer on the complaints about the quantities of GO vinyl pressings...I find it interesting that they press 500 copies of that recent GO/Grey Wolves 12". Seems like THAT one should get 250-300 copies and other stuff like this new archive release and the recent live LP should get 500. Oh well.
This Split is still avaible, i really think that too much Resellers think that they make easy Money with it, instead of needing it really. Seems that i miss it, fuck
If they make too few, people will complain that it's sold out before they got the chance to buy it. If they make more, people will buy it "later" and the records will just sit on shelves for years. By making too few, they will at least sell them, and get the money back to invest in the next thing.
Quote from: Ritual on August 28, 2014, 11:28:38 AMBy making too few, they will at least sell them, and get the money back to invest in the next thing.
Yeah, like a reissue that will never happen. Anyone stocking copies of IV?
Quote from: Ritual on August 28, 2014, 11:28:38 AM
and the records will just sit on shelves for years
In my opinion, that is sort of the point of a label, particularly in the case of reissues. Learning to gauge your demand so you can keep things in stock for at least a couple years. The manufacturing costs between 250 and 500 copies is small. Selling another 25-40 copies will pay for the additional 250 copies (in the example of a pressing of 500 rather than 250).
Quote from: Zeno Marx on August 28, 2014, 08:34:38 PM
Quote from: Ritual on August 28, 2014, 11:28:38 AM
and the records will just sit on shelves for years
In my opinion, that is sort of the point of a label, particularly in the case of reissues. Learning to gauge your demand so you can keep things in stock for at least a couple years. The manufacturing costs between 250 and 500 copies is small. Selling another 25-40 copies will pay for the additional 250 copies (in the example of a pressing of 500 rather than 250).
My thoughts as well.
It depends on if you want the money back quickly or spread out over a lengthy period. If they pressed a large enough edition to last a while, I don't think 300 people would rush and buy it on pre-order in a few days after it was announced. A lot of people would focus their spending money on other things as you could always get this "later". Next month it would easily be the same, and so on... I hate the fact that it is like this, but with the amount of stuff that gets released all the time I can understand why labels do this.
Quote from: Ritual on August 28, 2014, 10:11:03 PM
It depends on if you want the money back quickly or spread out over a lengthy period. If they pressed a large enough edition to last a while, I don't think 300 people would rush and buy it on pre-order in a few days after it was announced. A lot of people would focus their spending money on other things as you could always get this "later". Next month it would easily be the same, and so on... I hate the fact that it is like this, but with the amount of stuff that gets released all the time I can understand why labels do this.
It does seem that labels need to operate quite differently anymore in order to stay afloat. Then comes the frustration of repressing albums - as I'm sure for a label that's an even more nebulous zone. Who's to say if things will sell nearly as well six months or a year later? As there is so much being put out, I think a lot of folks "move on" after the first attempt. More things now vie for their cash.
300....not soldout for allmost a week? ....seems fair to me.....all Archives go to bandcamp too.
It's a bit like the Tesco-festival....not to many tickets, soldout, venue happy.
Tried to browse the topic quickly and didn't notice talk about it, but, does anyone else have problems with their "In Konflikt" CD? Was about to listen this and my CD-player nor computer doesn't recognize the disc, it's like new, actually don't know if I've even tried to listen it before as it's been "lost".
Annoying.
With some computers I've used I have to input and re-input the CD many times before it reads it. No idea why this happens.
Plays fine here!
Archive IV - for me the best of the series so far
Yes, I agree with that - although #2 was pretty great, too. Apparently they're aiming to do 10 of the Genocide Organ archive series over the next few years.
I reckon Algiz could be right that IV is the best so far. If I started off on a somewhat weak note the rest keep getting better and better. The material on side a is really lo fi sounding and rhythmic in a familiar 90s industrial style. Side B is less lo fi but carries on along the same track. It's very much of its time but somehow still timeless. This is like being beamed back to Malmo and the many angst ridden late nights spent in Missljud's kitchen drinking folle and hating the world. If they have enough material to release ten of these things and still maintain the standard then they can't bring them out fast enough as far as I'm concerned.
totally agree
got mine a couple of days ago and very satisfied.
Listened this latest 10" few times and have to agree. It's is mind-boggling situation, that while theoretically many of these songs are damn easy to make. That often there is merely drum machine beat, through Ms-20, some dokumentary sample running on background. Occasionally vocals, that too I would assume is through ms20 with tasty modulation. And that's it?! But how come pretty much NOBODY, has EVER managed to capture the same feel like G.O.? Many have tried, very few succeed.
Perhaps reason for not releasing this before, is that it's not as diverse or as "finished" sounding as "Save Our Slaves" or "Mind Control". More like rough session of songs, rather than long work of carefully planned album. But that is also its strength. Raw industrial-noise. Always: YES THANKS!!!
More? I hope so!
Yeah it was good and here you can hear it https://tescogermany.bandcamp.com/album/archive-iv
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on July 03, 2011, 08:07:04 PM
I don't know how many of people bought only CD? Or how many bought the CD and LP. But when listening both formats, I felt tempted to see if there is something weird in my head/ears, but no. Simply, compare the formats and in my opinion, LP is way better sounding. The extra distortion hides the "digital artifacts", it boosts different frequencies than on CD. Especially audible in Tamil Eelam. CD version has this nearly glitchy quality, while LP is raw and forceful.
Unfortunately cover artwork is just the other way round. CD works fine, LP is just too little amount of pixels stretched to LP dimensions. I doubt I will ever listen CD version anymore, but LP gets better all the time. Easily been the most listened LP in this household for summer.
Is this generally the case with genocide organ, or will I be safe getting cd versions of leichenlinie, remember and in conflict? I want to buy whatever sounds better.
Surprised that this hasn't been used as a general Genocide Organ thread..
Anyways, Tesco posted this sample song off their new album "OBITUARY OF THE AMERICAS"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2k9ZQFuDpTQ
Just pre-ordered the LP and CD very excited.
They have also re-released - GENOCIDE ORGAN - : 虐殺機関 - on tape.
Quote from: a_2_g_2 on October 07, 2015, 12:27:23 AM
Surprised that this hasn't been used as a general Genocide Organ thread..
Anyways, Tesco posted this sample song off their new album "OBITUARY OF THE AMERICAS"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2k9ZQFuDpTQ
Just pre-ordered the LP and CD very excited.
https://soundcloud.com/tescogermany/genocide-organ-autodefensa-from-obituary-of-the-amercias-lpcd-1 (https://soundcloud.com/tescogermany/genocide-organ-autodefensa-from-obituary-of-the-amercias-lpcd-1)
This sample has me even more engrossed. Looking forward to this one.
I must admit I feel like a teen age fanboy... the track is absolutely superb.
Agreed- preordered too
Quote from: eyestrain on October 07, 2015, 06:32:17 AM
https://soundcloud.com/tescogermany/genocide-organ-autodefensa-from-obituary-of-the-amercias-lpcd-1 (https://soundcloud.com/tescogermany/genocide-organ-autodefensa-from-obituary-of-the-amercias-lpcd-1)
This sample has me even more engrossed. Looking forward to this one.
I just noticed that the sample from Soundcloud was played live in this video. sadly the video is cut off
starts at around 9:13
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSLIxpG2dTs
In case you want the upcoming GO album on vinyl you better be quick!
http://www.tesco-germany.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=5084
QuoteOrders with any of these items will not be shipped before the actual release date! SO PLEASE ORDER THEM SEPARATELY!
The pressing is limited to the amount of orders Tesco gets until the 15.11.2015 The pressing will be ordered on this date, and all that come later will get none. WE ONLY PRESS AS MANY VINYL COPIES AS WE GET ORDERS!
Each person can obtain as many copies as it wishes. --------
Recon Unit Members order with their number and will get the extra for their membership number ! -------
You will be enlisted when ordering the 1st time. -------
The CD version features the same material but in different artwork and is unlimited.
Quote from: Scat-O-Logy on November 15, 2015, 02:18:32 PM
In case you want the upcoming GO album on vinyl you better be quick!
It will be available in many distro too, so it's not like it would be "sold out" when preorder time has ended. All distros also preordered and will sell it later on.
Not much talk about new album on this forum yet. I noticed merely one comment on playlist. Of course, question would remain, what else to say about G.O.? Well, at least, in my humble option, the new Obituary of the Americas is best Genocide Organ full length album since The Truth Will Make You Free!
I appreciate basically all stuff they ever did. But this simply for reason or another appeals to me much more than anything they did since late 90's. So far perhaps 5-6 rotations behind, and it feels like songs are starting to grow more. One friend said he felt that it was strong album, but not stand-out hit songs what would make single striking impact like some classics. How to compete with Klaus Barbie, Dog Day, White Power Forces or Elders Of Zion? You would need someone new to make such judgement. Nobody could objectively judge power of new track with couple quick spins vs. 20 years time to absorb the favorites.
Genocide Organ perhaps goes more back-to-basics like the old Tesco slogan was? Songs like I don't want to die, holy fuck. So simple theoretically, but such power can be felt in the cold waving electronic tone and grim electronic noises and processed cold vocals. If this first preview track made someone feel like G.O. takes it easy road of cold aggression, actually album has plenty of more complex tracks. Key elements are the same: rhythmic raw electronic sounds, pulsations of rhythm, electronically processed vocals, constant sample loops. Still they manage to make each track stand out different from previous. I feel that now many of the individual sounds are more interesting, more concrete and more fierce than with most of 2000's works.
I have so far been listening on vinyl version. I don't yet know how sound differs on digital media. Sometimes the extra distortion of vinyl cut may result improvement in raw power electronics rather than being "flaw". This was clearly case with Under - Kontrakt which sounds immensely better on LP than CD. Some of the songs change their nature completely. I have yet to test how the CD version on this album is compared to vinyl.
New album is fucking brilliant. MUCH more immediate and convincing than "Under Kontrakt". That album was still good but "Obituary..." is great. Genocide Organ are still the masters.
I think this is the best full work they have done since Save our slaves.
Very controlled, intense, cold and dry (in a good way). Great tracks.
Concept is perfect.
It's clearly much better executed than Under-Kontrakt but better than anything since SOS? Well I would disagree with that but that's just my opinion of course.
One stand out track is Operacion Causa Justa. It's densely layered with a held back quality making it not entirely unfitting for The Truth. Maybe. There is a dropping synth that appears at regular interval followed by the same synth but an octave or so lower which is as gorgeous as the ball tingling sensation one gets on speed. Both sensations are highly recommended BTW.
I wonder what any Hispanic member of the board thinks of this album. There must be some on here who live in the regions where the events that make up the themes of the album took place.
Well, I never recovered from SOS. I love everything they have done, but I still stuck with the early stuff, but it is a matter of personal taste and emotional attachment :)
Quote from: GEWALTMONOPOL on March 12, 2016, 07:24:44 PM
I wonder what any Hispanic member of the board thinks of this album. There must be some on here who live in the regions where the events that make up the themes of the album took place.
Not someone who posts on the board, but Sam (Terror Cell Unit, Full Blooded) couldn't be more approving of the themes as a proud Chicano.
humor is alive and well in power-electronics...
Genocide Organ have hidden in the jungles, hills, deserts, slums and cities of the Americas for 4 years. Being present on the shores of Panama, in the cardboard areas of El Salvador, the jungles of Guatemala, the drug routes of Bolivia, the human-drug trafficking in Mexico, the just in-justice in no-go areas just across the iron border of the US. Meeting paramilitares, Kommunist guerillas, dining in Fort Benning and getting their final degrees at the School of the Americas. Trekking regions highly praised for ancient cultures, for individual tourism, the beauty of the landscape and the peaceful inhabitants – but some of these areas turned into nightmares far beyond imagination, they are out of focus of what is happening in places that seem to be of more interest to the european stock market. In fact everything is connected. If you are worthless in a region, you are worthless in all regions.
:Obituary of the Americas: is a slow creeping, noise-layered journey through some dark hearts. Dark noisy beats are the rhythms for the decay and resistance of those involved, examined out of multiple angles and perspectives – the campesino, the elite soldier, the self-defense man, the drug-lord or the common criminal, with harsh aggressive outbreaks of noise driven electronic assaults – the list could be endless and it is! Today is the same as yesterday, it is world without a tomorrow!
The LP version features the same material but with different artwork and is limited to the number of pre-orders received before 10/30/2015. You may pre-order as many copies as you like.
I'm not crazy about the engine-roaring deal, especially how it sounds on the first track, but other than that, this is a solid album.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on March 14, 2016, 09:21:26 PM
'Chicano' is Mexican-American so not really the same thing .
You don't see how the two are related? Have a quick read at the poem "I am Joaquin", it might clear it up for you.
Honestly blown away by the new LP. The songs on the cassingle are also pretty good but I see why they aren't on the record as they have a different kind of atmosphere, more dark and less rough than the songs on the LP.
I have to admit, I've never been a huge fan of GO (very overrated IMHO), but they've done some decent to very good stuff. I'm not familiar with their recent output at all, but this latest album is pretty good. Better than stuff like "Truth Will Make You Free" but certainly not as powerful as "Remember".
The new LP is pretty good. About half way through side 2, I started thinking that a Virgin Mary tattoo on my head would be a good idea...
Quote from: jadderly on March 20, 2016, 09:42:08 PMGO (very overrated IMHO)Quote
whats overrated about them?
I think the new album is very strong offering.
I missed the opportunity to grab the vinyl from Malignant...are there any other distros in the states that still have this in stock?
Vinyl of the new album is already selling for 90$ on discogs..
Solid lp, I've listened to it around almost ten times since release and only somewhat recently has it fallen out of rotation. Not since Mania have I heard such effective use of gunfire sampling amongst many other favorable qualities such as how this band never fails to bring interesting concepts/sounds to the table in equal measure.
Also does anyone know if there is any word on if the Archive material is going to be released on CD?
I'd be surprised if it was. They plan to finish the series next year, and the last one will have a box for them all. Something like that, anyway...
Quote from: Fluid Fetish on June 27, 2016, 12:52:04 AMVinyl of the new album is already selling for 90$ on discogs..
I think those are the "Recon Unit" editions with extra cassette that are selling for such high prices.
Quote from: Fluid Fetish on June 27, 2016, 12:53:47 AMAlso does anyone know if there is any word on if the Archive material is going to be released on CD?
I heard from a contact that Tesco is selling "sold out" Archive records on gigs for prices of 25€ each. Wouldn't mind buying these for such cheap prices compared to Dis-Cocks madness.
Unrest Productions has the Obituaries of the Americas LP. The regular version, not the recon one. The mail order is closing for 2 weeks as of tomorrow so anyone wanting to order it will have to do so today.
Has anyone already received or has some information about the Archive VIII 10" which was announced in early September for a release date on Sept. 19 (if I remember right)?
Mine came like two or three weeks ago.
Yeah, got a copy about 3 weeks ago ...
OK, thanks a lot for your infos!
It was a good one - though that's no consolation if you've missed it...
Quote from: burdizzo on October 24, 2016, 12:11:28 PM
It was a good one - though that's no consolation if you've missed it...
...but so expensive that it will not be mine, heh!
For those waiting for the re-release of Save our Slave, the wait is over.
http://www.tesco-germany.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=5905
Quote from: Thor on August 27, 2017, 03:17:55 PM
For those waiting for the re-release of Save our Slave, the wait is over.
http://www.tesco-germany.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=5905
Thats great news, quite the prices for the vinyl though, as usual. Really have to consider getting that one. Might in worst case be the first CD I buy in years.
Quote from: Thor on August 27, 2017, 03:17:55 PM
For those waiting for the re-release of Save our Slave, the wait is over.
http://www.tesco-germany.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=5905
Excellent news, also saw a new/last Grey Wolves album as well being released
Preordered the 3xlp box and 2xcd...I really didn't want to keep playing my original copy of Save Our Slaves given the prices these are fetching nowadays. Was considering grabbing a second, archival copy of the 3xlp but opted out due to the cost. It's a tad high but certainly not overly excessive for a quality 3xlp box.
Quote from: accidental on August 28, 2017, 07:44:29 PM
€89 for a remastered 3lp reissue in 2017. Tesco is laughing all the way to the bank at the fools.
a hell of a lot less than the original goes for in 2017 (less than 1/4 of the last sold price on discogs) and still has the extravagant packaging GO is so well remembered for. seems like a fine deal especially for folks like myself who have been stuck with poor quality mp3s. perhaps its my fanatic mentality but i purchased the moment i received email notification. been wanting since they announced work on it back in, what 2011?
Quote from: Harvest on March 22, 2011, 11:40:50 PM
Quote from: TheGreatEcstasy on March 22, 2011, 04:59:05 PM
Save Our Slaves reissue announced
Fucking Finally.
This reissue has been long in the making and it's good that it's finally here. This year has seen two of the most classic and very sought after genre defying releases reissued, GREY WOLVES - Catholic Priests and now GO - SOS. Even better is that with this costly and cumbersome project out of the way we're likely to see the rest of the long sold out vinyl only GO catalogue reissued as well. The prospect of having a good remaster of The Truth Will Make You Free makes me foam at the mouth already.
Expect Unrest to stock Civilization on both formats!
Quote from: Harvest on August 28, 2017, 08:25:35 PM
Quote from: accidental on August 28, 2017, 07:44:29 PM
€89 for a remastered 3lp reissue in 2017. Tesco is laughing all the way to the bank at the fools.
a hell of a lot less than the original goes for in 2017 (less than 1/4 of the last sold price on discogs) and still has the extravagant packaging GO is so well remembered for. seems like a fine deal especially for folks like myself who have been stuck with poor quality mp3s. perhaps its my fanatic mentality but i purchased the moment i received email notification. been wanting since they announced work on it back in, what 2011?
And you know that some fuckers are going to flip it immediately on discogs for triple the amount. they will be the ones who laugh all the way to the bank.
Maybe label owners can speak better to this than I, but as a consumer I've noticed the price of single LPs creeping upwards. I'd say its rare to see anything under 20euro and often heads to 25euro. Add in the packaging and printed materials Tesco put into their boxsets and I can't imagine them rolling in that much profit from this
Quote from: Kayandah on August 29, 2017, 07:40:11 AM
Quote from: Harvest on August 28, 2017, 08:25:35 PM
Quote from: accidental on August 28, 2017, 07:44:29 PM
€89 for a remastered 3lp reissue in 2017. Tesco is laughing all the way to the bank at the fools.
a hell of a lot less than the original goes for in 2017 (less than 1/4 of the last sold price on discogs) and still has the extravagant packaging GO is so well remembered for. seems like a fine deal especially for folks like myself who have been stuck with poor quality mp3s. perhaps its my fanatic mentality but i purchased the moment i received email notification. been wanting since they announced work on it back in, what 2011?
And you know that some fuckers are going to flip it immediately on discogs for triple the amount. they will be the ones who laugh all the way to the bank.
Maybe label owners can speak better to this than I, but as a consumer I've noticed the price of single LPs creeping upwards. I'd say its rare to see anything under 20euro and often heads to 25euro. Add in the packaging and printed materials Tesco put into their boxsets and I can't imagine them rolling in that much profit from this
Idno, look at other genres, black metal lp's are regularly sold for as little as 12eu for a regular lp, 20eu being reserved for dlp.
Just received 3xLP in USA. Seems Tesco can't stop using low quality pixel blown up images for LP sleeves. Guess it's a stylistic choose at this point? Very excited to get these home and blast!
Anyone in Europe have recieved their LPbox yet? Almost a month since release and still status pending.
No, I didn't get it yet, but I know some people in Europe did.
I got mine today. Looks absolutely fantastic, just diving into it now
I need a copy of the new Kahane Chai 7". Anyone selling for a normal price..?
Quote from: impulse manslaughter on October 30, 2017, 08:18:35 PM
I need a copy of the new Kahane Chai 7". Anyone selling for a normal price..?
you can buy it in the Mailorder as White Vinyl Edition. Concert Edition was Blue.
Both limited to 250 each
Thanks, just ordered one..
It's good, but you should probably try and track down the Ke/Hil 12'' that was also sold at the festival - in my opinion, some of the best material from that project.
Quote from: burdizzo on October 31, 2017, 02:38:45 PM
It's good, but you should probably try and track down the Ke/Hil 12'' that was also sold at the festival - in my opinion, some of the best material from that project.
Bought it there, too, and it is a very impressive release!
Quote from: burdizzo on October 31, 2017, 02:38:45 PM
It's good, but you should probably try and track down the Ke/Hil 12'' that was also sold at the festival - in my opinion, some of the best material from that project.
Agreed, I mail ordered one since I didn't want to walk around with it during the fest, and it's spectacular. For sure some of the strongest material the project has done so far. Surprised there is still copies available.
Quote from: burdizzo on October 31, 2017, 02:38:45 PM
It's good, but you should probably try and track down the Ke/Hil 12'' that was also sold at the festival - in my opinion, some of the best material from that project.
I liked the last Ke/hil album a lot. This reminds me I must get this and the new GO box. GO were great at United Forces of Industrial.
Amazed to see that Genocide Organ 7'' blocked by Discogs. Some people must be terribly sensitive...
Quote from: burdizzo on November 29, 2017, 03:09:22 PM
Amazed to see that Genocide Organ 7'' blocked by Discogs. Some people must be terribly sensitive...
worth noting only the blue version is banned? confusing to say the least. starting to wonder if certain uploaders are being targeted? hmmm.
Quote from: Harvest on November 29, 2017, 08:11:50 PM
Quote from: burdizzo on November 29, 2017, 03:09:22 PM
Amazed to see that Genocide Organ 7'' blocked by Discogs. Some people must be terribly sensitive...
worth noting only the blue version is banned? confusing to say the least. starting to wonder if certain uploaders are being targeted? hmmm.
They are... For example Klansman88 (who have since changed his name) is one of them. Even the H.Ö.H. tapes he added are now blocked even though the material doesn't violate any guidelines. Hell, one tape even has a dead nazi on the cover: http://www.discogs.com/H%C3%96H-White-Genocide/release/7038276
I am just on the final track of the main CD of the "Civilisation" box set. Holy christ! The master sounds unbelievably powerful and presents the material in a fashion which is nothing short of breathtaking. Of course, the sounds themselves need no further comment - GO from their best side!
I remember there being some comments on the pricing, especially on the vinyl box. In all honesty, after hearing and seeing this release, I would claim the CD set is well worth the 30 bucks. Especially since 19% of the price are VAT and are going straight to the state and I would estimate there was some pricey and straineous mastering process involved. Presentation is also very nice and posh!
I agree, can't comment on the cd but the lp box set loos incredble and sounds incredible. Ordered the Remember 2xcd alongside this box and sorry to say (since I know many pp here hold that release in the highest regards) but Remember sounds horrble compared to the live releases on this box set
announcement of archive X and a slipcase box to house other 9 discs in. includes 2 inserts.
i would say this answers question of boxset treatment.
Quote from: Harvest on December 18, 2017, 08:03:52 PM
announcement of archive X and a slipcase box to house other 9 discs in. includes 2 inserts.
i would say this answers question of boxset treatment.
Kinda stupid unless they are planning to reissue the earlier archive releases.
That makes sense only for those that bought every single volume and I believe must of the die hard fans did and did it directly from them so...
I'll just wait until they make a CD version of all those 10''. And that will be expensive as fuck anyway.
You'll be waiting a long time, I'd say. In fact, I'd imagine this won't be released on CD at all, unless someone bootlegs it.
How many people realistically who would buy Archive X haven't purchased any of the other records in the series, or would be uninterested in getting them in the future? Even if you have only a few it's still going to be a sturdy case to hold the volumes you have already
Quote from: burdizzo on December 20, 2017, 09:51:20 AM
You'll be waiting a long time, I'd say. In fact, I'd imagine this won't be released on CD at all, unless someone bootlegs it.
I'm confident it will be pressed in CD. They're slowly repressing everything. But yes, not any time soon.
Quote from: totalblack on December 20, 2017, 12:50:33 PM
How many people realistically who would buy Archive X haven't purchased any of the other records in the series, or would be uninterested in getting them in the future? Even if you have only a few it's still going to be a sturdy case to hold the volumes you have already
For only one record? I would say none. But yes, for all those who still want to buy all the records it makes sense.
Very disappointed that one could not grab the 10" by itself. Different issue if I would have the previous volumes (which I dont, barely halfway there) but I am not a fucking millionaire.
By chance does anyone have digital files ripped from the original :REMEMBER: 2xLP? I was listening to this at home a few weeks back and was surprised by how different it sounds compared to the remastered re-issued version.
Basically I am wanting the digital files so I can listen to them on the move, but don't have the capabilities to convert them myself.
Any assistance would be appreciated. PM me here or via noisereceptor@hotmail.com
In the case an interested party might have missed this, Mindcontrol was re-released yesterday on lp and cd:
http://www.tesco-germany.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=6165
Doesn't seem to be sold out so far, includes a track on 7" which was originally intended to be included. Kind of thought that a 500 ltd would be sold out the day it was released but I guess its positive that people aren't mindlessly purchasing releases just because its a GO classic.
Did the pre-order for the reissue yesterday. Expensive day for those who also went for the Merzbow reissue.
Quote from: Thor on May 12, 2018, 08:16:40 PM
In the case an interested party might have missed this, Mindcontrol was re-released yesterday on lp and cd:
http://www.tesco-germany.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=6165
Doesn't seem to be sold out so far, includes a track on 7" which was originally intended to be included. Kind of thought that a 500 ltd would be sold out the day it was released but I guess its positive that people aren't mindlessly purchasing releases just because its a GO classic.
Well, they do inform us that they "might have a one copy per person policy - if you dont accept this - don´t order". I don't understand what this policy means. Is it possible to order and receive several copies, provided that you accept that they might perhaps have had a one copy per person policy?
Regardless: great that this stuff is made available again (and if they actually have a 1 pcs/person policy that is also great and a massive vaccine against scalpers). Still, too rich for my blood. There are just way too many awesome, Russian £2 HNW downloads out there.
Quote from: Stoa on May 12, 2018, 11:09:36 PM
Quote from: Thor on May 12, 2018, 08:16:40 PM
In the case an interested party might have missed this, Mindcontrol was re-released yesterday on lp and cd:
http://www.tesco-germany.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=6165
Doesn't seem to be sold out so far, includes a track on 7" which was originally intended to be included. Kind of thought that a 500 ltd would be sold out the day it was released but I guess its positive that people aren't mindlessly purchasing releases just because its a GO classic.
Well, they do inform us that they "might have a one copy per person policy - if you dont accept this - don´t order". I don't understand what this policy means. Is it possible to order and receive several copies, provided that you accept that they might perhaps have had a one copy per person policy?
Regardless: great that this stuff is made available again (and if they actually have a 1 pcs/person policy that is also great and a massive vaccine against scalpers). Still, too rich for my blood. There are just way too many awesome, Russian £2 HNW downloads out there.
they are letting you know if you attempt an order of more than one copy they will simply send you none.
Quote from: Stoa on May 12, 2018, 11:09:36 PM
Still, too rich for my blood.
While unfortunately pricey, as is the nature of Tesco, it's still about $400 cheaper than Discogs prices. So it may as well be free.
Just ordered a copy of Mindcontrol. I'm still looking for a Kahane Chai 7". Anyone here who has a reasonable priced copy for sale?
Quote from: Stoa on May 12, 2018, 11:09:36 PM
There are just way too many awesome, Russian £2 HNW downloads out there.
Sinner ! Blasphemer ! Second or third time, same sin. Don't mention Bandcamp Joe -dead on term, i steal it heh- in the same text near to names like Genocide Organ, Treriksroset etc.
Confess, Pray, Repent !
Quote from: absurdexposition on May 12, 2018, 09:02:39 PM
Did the pre-order for the reissue yesterday. Expensive day for those who also went for the Merzbow reissue.
I ordered one, Hail America is my favorite GO song, so I'm glad to finally own it on vinyl without having to take out a small loan for a copy
I'm curious to see if the reissue will still have the metal plate cover like the original pressing did. I sold my copy of this years ago to a friend for $50 so i'm pleased to get my hands on a copy once again. Considering that this is the pinnacle of the studio recordings by the band (in my opinion) and the insane jump in prices that have happened in the last 10 years, it's fairly reasonably priced.
Quote from: totalblack on May 19, 2018, 12:51:52 AM
I'm curious to see if the reissue will still have the metal plate cover like the original pressing did. I sold my copy of this years ago to a friend for $50 so i'm pleased to get my hands on a copy once again. Considering that this is the pinnacle of the studio recordings by the band (in my opinion) and the insane jump in prices that have happened in the last 10 years, it's fairly reasonably priced.
If the reissue had metal plate, you'd be paying an extra 30 euros for it plus additional postage...
I've always wondered if the metal plate was from a printing plate with positive images (rather than the negative for actual printing). It seems like the same metal. Those printing plates can be quite big, and then all you'd have to do is sheer them into squares. Probably overthinking things, and they're just screened.
Quote from: Theodore on May 13, 2018, 03:44:01 AM
Quote from: Stoa on May 12, 2018, 11:09:36 PM
There are just way too many awesome, Russian £2 HNW downloads out there.
Sinner ! Blasphemer ! Second or third time, same sin. Don't mention Bandcamp Joe -dead on term, i steal it heh- in the same text near to names like Genocide Organ, Treriksroset etc.
Confess, Pray, Repent !
I refuse! I am undergoing a second puberty, during which I revolt against my 21 year-old self.
'
I did pay 150 euros for the Re:Member DLP not that many years ago, so I am MAINLY faking it and trying to be offensive, but at the same time I could have bought at least one Tesco release with the money I've spent on Bandcamp HNW in the past year. So I am at least
somewhat cool/retarded.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on May 19, 2018, 07:54:57 PM
Quote from: totalblack on May 19, 2018, 12:51:52 AM
I'm curious to see if the reissue will still have the metal plate cover like the original pressing did. I sold my copy of this years ago to a friend for $50 so i'm pleased to get my hands on a copy once again. Considering that this is the pinnacle of the studio recordings by the band (in my opinion) and the insane jump in prices that have happened in the last 10 years, it's fairly reasonably priced.
If the reissue had metal plate, you'd be paying an extra 30 euros for it plus additional postage...
Not necessarily- the Leichenlinie 2009 LP had a metal plate on it like the original and was sold for 30 euros, basically same price as this. They don't weigh much more either.
Does anyone know when the LP+7" will start shipping?
Quote from: Coma Detox on June 09, 2018, 01:19:55 AM
Does anyone know when the LP+7" will start shipping?
I thought it was mid-June but the product page for the CD is now saying July.
From Tesco on fb:
D-DAY! WN62 is mounted but we cannot count on the pressing plants! So the releases have not arrived and we
don´t expect them to do so before next week.
SORRY FOR DELAYS - WE HOPE TO GET THEM TO YOU ASAP!
Has the Mind-Control LP reissue started shipping yet? I ordered mine from Tesco HQ and haven't received anything yet. I know sometimes packages get held up in customs but I though I'd have the record in-hand already.
I know someone who got his copy a while ago and someone else who didn't. And I'm still waiting for mine...
They started shipping this week.
My order still says pending when I check the Tesco Germany website. Have they started shipping any US orders yet?
No idea about US orders as that is Tesco Distro, but I heard from Klaus yesterday that shipping of :Mind Control: orders would recommence this week. It seems only a few parcels were able to be sent before the group headed off to the US due to the misprinted cover issues.
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bl53N1mD8Fx/?taken-by=tescousa
https://www.instagram.com/p/BmEAM0AhGTe/?taken-by=tescousa
Mine shipped July 31!
GENOCIDE ORGAN "Laguna Del Tigre / Los Muertos" tape
GENOCIDE ORGAN "Rio Dulce Izabal / Sierra De Lacondon" tape
One for LA show, another for San Francisco show. Editions of 100 in card "O sleeves". Both are cassette ep's with one track per side. First impression was that Laguna Del Tigre/Los Muertos could be somehow left over material what didn't quite make it to albums, while Rio Dulce Izabal and Sierra De Lacondon are to my ears far more intense and noisier. With more rotation to these tapes, they grew to be better. Sort of idea what the Kahane Chai 7" was. Variations of tracks, with some same elements to them, yet being different tracks. Not as piercing and loud and juicy that some of the best GO materials, but still raw, piercing, dominating classic GO sound. Especially physicality of some of the noise sounds of Rio Dulce Izabal and Sierra De Lacondon is something what I appreciate. Not just the modulation of classic german heavy electronic sound synths, but adding physicality in little bit same ways as was done with metal sound loops of The Truth Will Make You Free etc.
Too bad that tape limited to 100 is guaranteed to be way too little for band like GO. It's hard to create exclusive and limited items in world where they will be most likely abused pretty soon. I'm quite surprised that none is yet at discogs with ridiculous price tag.
Haven't heard the new tapes but was spinning the Kahane Chai 7" today and it's my favorite of their recent releases..
Tesco just release Umkhonto we sizwe lp (reissue of GO's part of the cassette Heavy Electronics I on lp).
And it's 'out of stock' already!? I was going to wait until tonight to order - lucky I didn't!!
I played my :Leichenline: cd today, it was solid. I don't have the rarer stuff they put out on vinyl,I am slowly getting all the stuff there is on CD, I loved seeing them at the Unrest Fest a while back. I didn't realise how good it would be, the urgency was really intense.
New GO 7" available now for preorder at Tesco! A follow up in the EP serie initiated with Kahane Chai.
5 different colors, and one set including them all + a shirt... 15€ for one.
Don't remember if the Kahane Chai 7" was this expensive?
Short sample here: https://youtu.be/L3KZAHAIVUo
Quote from: parapluie on March 13, 2019, 11:53:28 AM
New GO 7" available now for preorder at Tesco! A follow up in the EP serie initiated with Kahane Chai.
5 different colors, and one set including them all + a shirt... 15€ for one.
Don't remember if the Kahane Chai 7" was this expensive?
Short sample here: https://youtu.be/L3KZAHAIVUo
Kahane Chai was this expensive, but this set of 5 different colours of the same ep seems a bit excessive.
Sample sounds awesome however, the sound of this one and the Kahane Chai makes me real anxious to get another GO full length!
Yeah, same price as Kahane Chai but this time they aren't shipping them without insurance, so there is an extra cost there. With how much KC is going for on Discogs you still come out ahead, but 7" is a costly format these days.
Not costly to the point of costing 15€ before shipping from Germany. Tesco sell their releases for way too much considering their manufacturing quality.
Quote from: Euro Trash Bazooka on March 13, 2019, 07:29:38 PM
Not costly to the point of costing 15€ before shipping from Germany. Tesco sell their releases for way too much considering their manufacturing quality.
yes, does seem strange that other 7" they have released are a mere 10€ with similar spot varnish/inserts/etc
Ordered on white vinyl. Don't need 6 copies of the same record.
Shockingly I guess that the group feels that they deserve a cut of the profits from the release, instead of it all going to discogs flippers.
Quote from: totalblack on March 13, 2019, 11:02:13 PM
Shockingly I guess that the group feels that they deserve a cut of the profits from the release, instead of it all going to discogs flippers.
That comment is shockingly stupid
I don't know where it's being pressed and who did the mastering, etc. but 15 euros + 4,5 for shipping within EU is reasonable enough for me..
An artist, lets say a painter, does he sell all of his works on the same price ? Does he sell them just a little more than the material cost ? Who sets the price ? Market or himself ? How does it feel when people buy your works, and a month later sell them x3 the price, unplayed ? What you do ? Do you care at all about that ? Are you a pro-artist or just you wanna share your work with those who care ? If pro, do you feel exploited ? If labour of love, do you feel disappointed cause it's not about what you do ? Fuck them in any case ? That's life and you do the same with other's work ? Dont know.
I think in the case of G.O. it is fair for the responsible parties to be charging more due to what inevitably happens with their releases once they hit the collector market, but as a whole Tesco's prices are certainly not the cheapest out there.
Another solution to offset the flippers is to think about increasing the amount of copies pressed. Pressing in quantities below demand *and* charging more kind of just says "We know you'll pay more for this, so please, do it."
Quote from: absurdexposition on March 14, 2019, 04:55:57 PM
Another solution to offset the flippers is to think about increasing the amount of copies pressed. Pressing in quantities below demand *and* charging more kind of just says "We know you'll pay more for this, so please, do it."
All said.
OK just to break down things down in the price here:
15 euro minus 19% VAT = 12.15 retail
Say each member gets 1 euro from each copy sold, that's down to 8 euro per copy - which is reasonable. I don't mind to pay a few bucks extra to buy self released items directly from an artist.
It's also not cheap to press 7"s anymore, it costs nearly the same now as an LP to press, with way lower profit margins.
I guess for this record a run of 1250 should be enough that everyone can get one. I suppose for the Archaic Documents live releases, double could be pressed easily, but then again the 2007 live LP in a large edition from 2009 is still available a decade later. What's a better option? Press 300 and sell them all in one day? Or pay to press 1000 and still have copies sitting in the warehouse ten years later.
The price and limitation is an endless debate when it comes for something like this.
15eur for a 7'' is not that expensive if we thing in all those aspects/costs and everyone running a label knows that.
Paying 13eur for a CD is more expensive in comparison and no one seems to care about it, when in reality must of the times, making a 7'' or even a tape is more expensive, per unit, than a CD.
But yeah, a 1250 pressing will take some time to sell out. Hopefully. I imagine must of the fans will not buy all the colors.
1. netto price is 12.60€, not 12.15
2. the run for this record is 1500 (6 packs à 250 copies) whereas a bundle of 5 seems to be weirdly sold as one just because of the colors? So effectively it's 500 copies of music.
3. production cost estimated is 3.90€ per 7" for a 250 run, which is pretty cheap, 500 would be 2.10€ each which is even more insane so I don't know where you get the idea from that pressing 7" is expensive
4. you could sell those for 100% profit and still end up with a reasonable price for a 7" of about 8€ instead of artificially limiting the supply which creates the discogs price dynamic as absurdexposition already stated. That price would also apply to your logic of "1 euro per member", however it's doubtful that tesco would calculate their desired margins that way...
5. if you "don't mind to pay a few bucks extra", why don't you donate some money to GO to help them out?
The "better option" in my opinion is press the maximum amount of copies people will still buy of which tesco should have a very good prognosis at this point and then sell these for a reasonable price. 15€ plus shipping for two songs on a 7" or 75 for a couple more pieces of colored plastic? c'mon...
Quote from: Urban Noise on March 14, 2019, 06:47:13 PM
The price and limitation is an endless debate when it comes for something like this.
15eur for a 7'' is not that expensive if we thing in all those aspects/costs and everyone running a label knows that.
Paying 13eur for a CD is more expensive in comparison and no one seems to care about it, when in reality must of the times, making a 7'' or even a tape is more expensive, per unit, than a CD.
But yeah, a 1250 pressing will take some time to sell out. Hopefully. I imagine must of the fans will not buy all the colors.
I think cds are way too expensive and I almost never buy them except at discounted prices. I'd rather pay 20 for a lp than 12 for a cd
can we move this discussion to a proper thread?
http://www.special-interests.net/forum/index.php?topic=414.0
I'm waiting for Archive and the singles compilation. They'll come eventually I guess...
Quote from: deutscheasphalt on March 14, 2019, 07:04:43 PM
5. if you "don't mind to pay a few bucks extra", why don't you donate some money to GO to help them out?
For me, I'm willing to 'pay a few bucks extra' when I like a certain label because I know some cash flow is needed to continue releasing records. Esp. when records aren't selling out fast it means a lot of the money invested will be sitting on shelves for years.
Anyway, CD's are being sold usually for 10-15 euros; not sure what theproduction costs are these days but can't be more than 2/3 euros. LP's for 15-20 euros; small pressing with simple artwork will be about 5 euros. If this is considered to be normal than the price for this 7" isn't that strange. Sadly, most labels just gave up on 7"s because the audience expects them to be really cheap while it's getting more and more expensive to make them. Esp. in low quantities like with most noise/industrial releases.
Quote from: Scat-O-Logy on March 14, 2019, 09:09:53 PM
I'm waiting for Archive and the singles compilation. They'll come eventually I guess...
I'm also waiting for that. I'm out of the vinyl rush.
Archive CD box would be nice!
Something like the Ultra – "Delirious Elaborations" 4CD box would be fucking amazing!
Quote from: Urban Noise on March 14, 2019, 06:47:13 PM
Paying 13eur for a CD is more expensive in comparison and no one seems to care about it.
Well, no? Why do you think P2P or Napster appeared back then? Why do you think people would rather pay for single digital music files and Deezer, Bandcamp, Spotify, etc are thriving? Why did the CD industry kind of collapse and major labels are now reissuing everything they can on vinyl? Because everyone besides some niche fetishists cares.
Sorry for derailing the topic.
We're talking about noise here, a niche in it self, not the industry in general...
A quick view on the main distros and we see most of the CD's are 12/13 euros. If they are at that price, it's because it sells for those prices.
Comparing the production price of a CD to a 7'', the 7'' is higher and usually sells for less. That's all I wanted to point with that stament.
As said before, endless debate.
Quote from: Scat-O-Logy on March 14, 2019, 09:09:53 PM
I'm waiting for Archive and the singles compilation. They'll come eventually I guess...
Yes, something like this would be great. Only managed to get six 10"s of the Archive series and also missed the Kahane Chai 7" and as I have very limited internet access at the moment I will probably miss the new 7" as well. So not too limited compilations, in the near or not so near future, would be very welcome.
Wanted to give a thought on the new :Movement: 7" and this series that has begun with :Kahane Chai:.
Okay GO is a type of hype band and will probably always receive praises, but damn it if these 7" series isn't some of the best thing they have done for 20 years.
There debut is probably my favourite album although GO did a lot of astonishing work in there early years and in fact, over their career I've only encountered one album which I haven't fallen for (The truth will... I don't know, maybe I'll have to keep listening to that one), but while they evolved into a more "ambient" or minimal take on industrial, Obituary of the Americas brought back some unquestionable brutality to the GO type of style which continues in a very refined way in the 7" eps.
Well about this series. Focusing on religious fanatics through the eyes of politics and intolerance from different parts of the world. I guess GO never reveals their intentions but this seems to be the theme. I'm hoping for an Africa based one next although of the abundance of violence, tribalism and atrocities in that region, only a handful of african conflicts would fit this religious theme.
The electronics are deep and rich, bass/drone fueled, Movement has some piercing overtones and the short length is appropriate for the approach.
The vocals are what I really love, especially on kahane. Movement thus seems to continue in a very similar style to KC but still finds a slight shift to the more screeching type of sound whereas the theme is kept in place.
Seriously look forward to next release (I'm guessing there are more than those two)
Still haven't received my copy but agreed on the Kahane 7". Really liked that one.
Quote from: Thor on May 04, 2019, 11:58:23 AM
...over their career I've only encountered one album which I haven't fallen for (The truth will... I don't know, maybe I'll have to keep listening to that one
Most of the
Truth tracks appear on disc 2 of the
:Remember: CD reissue and are excellent. In many instances the live interpretations of certain tracks can lend a greater appreciation to the OG studio ones. Just what I've found with early G|O especially.
For those unaware, the The Truth Will Make You Free LP and CD re-issues are up at Tesco.
It's an excellent track. The CD from that set contains several overlooked gems IMO.
Quote from: GEWALTMONOPOL on August 21, 2019, 01:54:08 AM
It's an excellent track. The CD from that set contains several overlooked gems IMO.
Not sure if it is the "live in japan" title that makes current buyers cautious. If it would have just some other title than indicating it is
merely live album, I would suspect more people would buy it? Fact remains some of the best works of G.O. are live recordings, and this live in Japan includes a lot of things not found from studio works. Perhaps it is also good thing that people who are interested, can still get it for affordable prices!
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on August 21, 2019, 01:35:30 PM
Quote from: GEWALTMONOPOL on August 21, 2019, 01:54:08 AM
It's an excellent track. The CD from that set contains several overlooked gems IMO.
Not sure if it is the "live in japan" title that makes current buyers cautious. If it would have just some other title than indicating it is merely live album, I would suspect more people would buy it? Fact remains some of the best works of G.O. are live recordings, and this live in Japan includes a lot of things not found from studio works. Perhaps it is also good thing that people who are interested, can still get it for affordable prices!
I suspect this is the case- none of their other live recordings, or any releases have been available for close to the length of time that Live in Japan has. Definitely a fantastic release
That's usually my go-to album by them. Great stuff
I put off picking up Live in Japan until very recently and must say that I can't believe how overlooked it was and still is. The sound quality is excellent and it's absolutely essential for any Genocide Organ fan, if you ask me. I really can't believe I did without it for all that time. How is this a $20 record and so widely available? It doesn't make sense. Highly recommended!
I bought a CD of The Truth Will Make You Free last week, I felt it really holds back, stays low end and simmering and builds tension continually. They never seem to dissapoint.
On that album, raw sound material by John Murphy is also in notable element. Can't say I am 100% sure, but I don't think there is mentions in other albums about contributors outside band members. Would be curious to know why on one album they did have, but I'm very glad there is. It's one of the strongest albums from band.
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on August 29, 2019, 02:55:32 PM
On that album, raw sound material by John Murphy is also in notable element. Can't say I am 100% sure, but I don't think there is mentions in other albums about contributors outside band members. Would be curious to know why on one album they did have, but I'm very glad there is. It's one of the strongest albums from band.
Wow, I never knew John Murphy contributed to that, I had no clue at all. I am thrilled I went and saw them a few years ago in London at United forces, that was something it's impossible to forget. Dickhead me didn't go to the Friday where Kevlar (on my to buy list) and Ke/Hill played though. I saw DIJ when John Murphy played with them (Peaceful Snow era 7 or 8 years ago) and am glad I saw him in some context as the more I read the more his name keeps cropping up in different places.
The LP mentions John Murphy but not specifically what his contribution was. No mention of him on the CD.
I only met him a few times and I liked him. The best thing I saw him do was at Slimelight with that prog project with Albin Julius where he played the drums.
^ Of all places, Spotify has John Murphy credited for tracks 2, 4-6
leichenlinie seems to be getting a 30th anniversary pressing. funny to this old man but the 20th seemed to be so recent. fine by me as i missed out on that opportunity. no mention of the metal plate, just the new style spot varnish/embossing we have seen on last few reissues. excited none the less!
edit: spelling
Any one heard news on the lechenliene repress? It was slated for dec 6th right? Still no email on shipping
It said 12.31.19 when I ordered
My parcel arrives tomorrow and a friend in the same city got his two days ago. I guess they are all being sent out now
Cool thanks guys
My copy showed up yesterday, forgot how much of a monster this record is.
A three tapes set was released yesterday morning by Tesco, each of these tape was supposed to be sold at each US dates that got cancelled.
But it sold out in a couple hours, so you pretty much had to be in front of your computer at this moment to get one... Was lucky enough to make my order as soon as I saw the news.
Here's the link to the newsletter: https://mailchi.mp/dcf34e3cb94c/tesco-usmc-news-1533086
Sample track: https://youtu.be/sRG9fdVJ2xE
I think they did the same for the previous US tour, with two "cassette singles"?
Yeah, I missed it - three hours after the announcement.
Ah well, cassette is my least favoured format, anyway. And the sample track isn't exactly orgasmic.
In-Konflikt remaster/reissue CD and vinyl up on Tesco. The Leichenlinie and Mind control reprints have been top quality so I expect no other for this one.
Also up is a new 7" in the Kahane Chai/Movement series.
Quote from: pidgeons on September 18, 2020, 08:56:32 PM
Also up is a new 7" in the Kahane Chai/Movement series.
Thanks!
Genocide Organ - :In-Konflikt: LP/CD in stock now!
Any opinions on the Khalsa 7" that was released about 2 months ago? As usual, the pre-orders sold out within 1 day. I got the sand colored version, looks nice. Throbbing slabs of droning noise complimented by speech samples. Sounds are good but one-dimensional and overall it relies a bit too much on the samples for my taste. Not an item I'd pay 50 euros for but a nice addition to the collection.
I was just thinking today, whilst listening to that 7" alongside the Rope Society one w/ Am Not - that Genocide Organ have slipped back into the pack a bit. The 10" series had some amazing stuff on it, and the first couple in this 7" series were good, too, but this last one isn't especially exceptional, at all.
I agree to a degree, that "musically" new 7" was nothing exception, but sonically, I think it was great! It felt somehow dirtier, darker and more fierce than for example full length albums have been for long time. While musically very straight forward and make you think "they could do better"... but better how? I think return back to basics, the rugged sound, simplistic synth tones and such is not bad at all.
Same goes to the live tapes. I heard some people say that those short tapes were too simple, lo-fi and crude, but I felt like that 3 tapes set would have been really good album if couple tracks added!
I am probably a voice out of the choir, but I think the last 7´´- apart from the concept, which is very interesting as usual - is very boring. I have the feeling they just threw two tracks finished for the sake to be finished, and that´s it.
I have had the same feeling with the "Tipping Point" tape boxset (which also had a very poor packaging actually). Maybe it´s simply my taste, but I have the impression that the quality on their last "smaller" releases (tapes and 7´´) decreased.
I didn't get the notifications of the last two 7"s and I am sad
what I heard is very good and crude
I loved the live tapes a lot
I've only heard a couple tracks from Tipping Point and like what I hear. Small Boys Unit is especially good, in my opinion, with that miserably slow drone and overall simple song structure - good shit! Sadly I missed the release of these tapes and wasn't able to buy in time... if anyone is willing to upload these, it would be greatly appreciated!
I find the material on the 7" series to be very strong. Especially the second track on Khalsa really hits hard. Oldschool vibes, but with a polished sound. Same goes for the tipping point tapes, very broad spectrum of sounds, reminds me of In Konflikt.
GO has mastered the art of drip feeding material though... 2-3 small releases split across the year. It would be nice to get a new full-length effort, Obituary was already half a decade ago.
The band is in quite a privileged position being able to sell out anything they put up within days (or even hours hah) but I don't think it has hurt the quality of their music in any way.
Only the track on the recent Hospital double tape has been slightly disappointing, however that comp is filled with so many great tracks it is difficult to stand out!
I started thinking about this in the morning today, but does anyone know if this GO is going to play in the USA. I have not been refunded for these tickets, which if there was no plan I'm gonna feel pretty burned.
Fairly certain there was no plan to reschedule those shows
Quote from: Johann on January 03, 2023, 03:39:08 PM
I started thinking about this in the morning today, but does anyone know if this GO is going to play in the USA. I have not been refunded for these tickets, which if there was no plan I'm gonna feel pretty burned.
From what I have heard GO is never coming back to perform in the states again.
The pre-orders for the new LP went very fast. Sold out in a few hours. New 7" is also sold out now..
https://tesco-germany.com/produkt/genocide-organ-maunduni-mau-ltd250-lp-pre-order-2-3-2-23/
Quote from: Eigen Bast on January 03, 2023, 09:27:09 PM
Fairly certain there was no plan to reschedule those shows
It's interesting that they also apparently made no plan to refund money then
The cover of the new LP looks like absolute dog shit.
No need for quality control anymore, preorders do the rest.
Ive always wondered if there will come a time when the GO hype/marketing bubble goes pop.
Quote from: Johann on January 04, 2023, 04:50:13 AM
Quote from: Eigen Bast on January 03, 2023, 09:27:09 PM
Fairly certain there was no plan to reschedule those shows
It's interesting that they also apparently made no plan to refund money then
That's not GO's fault. That responsibility was in the hands of those booking it.
Quote from: HONOR_IS_KING! on January 04, 2023, 06:38:20 PM
Quote from: Johann on January 04, 2023, 04:50:13 AM
Quote from: Eigen Bast on January 03, 2023, 09:27:09 PM
Fairly certain there was no plan to reschedule those shows
It's interesting that they also apparently made no plan to refund money then
That's not GO's fault. That responsibility was in the hands of those booking it.
Never said it was GO's fault, I know it certainly is not, unfortunately I don't know who was booking it. If you know please let me know, I'll take it up with them directly.
Quote from: Johann on January 04, 2023, 09:26:15 PM
Quote from: HONOR_IS_KING! on January 04, 2023, 06:38:20 PM
Quote from: Johann on January 04, 2023, 04:50:13 AM
Quote from: Eigen Bast on January 03, 2023, 09:27:09 PM
Fairly certain there was no plan to reschedule those shows
It's interesting that they also apparently made no plan to refund money then
That's not GO's fault. That responsibility was in the hands of those booking it.
Never said it was GO's fault, I know it certainly is not, unfortunately I don't know who was booking it. If you know please let me know, I'll take it up with them directly.
No use in pointing you to any of the them. No one has gotten a refund and its not happening.
Quote from: Leewar on January 04, 2023, 02:18:31 PM
Ive always wondered if there will come a time when the GO hype/marketing bubble goes pop.
Band has done what they do, pretty much always. Starting with 291 copies for Leichenlienie LP, 350 copies for Save Our Slaves 12"+7". 490 for Mind Control LP and so on... It is hard to call style of releases "hype" (= extravagant or intensive publicity or promotion), if all they do is put it available in their own store and inform people something is available. It may be bubble in a way, that they clearly like to keep smaller stuff only sold via Tesco, not like real albums that have wider distribution. Of course one can have debate should band answer the demand by increasing pressing, or follow their idea what contributes to idea of item.
As these smaller edition works are not -real albums- so to say, mostly live material, they are not made available in same way as albums. I would guess it is in fine line with traditions of industrial culture. TG had its live tape box, Whitehouse had the massive live action tape "series" available, ton of Psychic TV live tapes were there, and they were something separate. Not the album that are meant to be "in stock", but something for the followers who want to hear something between the albums. I assume it can be annoying if artist has urge to published something, but not flood the market, so to say. Just keep certain hierarchy in publications. It took long long time for GO even start to do CD repressing of albums, while old attitude seemed to be that band was always moving forward. Not looking back. Also tradition in industrial, where reissues and large availability is kind of new school entitlement. Old school was that release happened, sold out, and artist moved on to do next.
For guys who keep missing all reissues, there is curious situation, to test how not having GO logo gives you little extra time: SK1005 "Mannheim / Gothenburg 1992" LP, that was the very first Tesco Archaic Documents, it came of 2013, almost 10 years ago. Just couple of weeks ago I sold my last copy of it. Discogs has 5 for sale, starting from 19 euro. If someone missed latest announcement, there may be now opportunity to grab something that many people clearly overlooked. It has lots of early GO classic tracks and neat 1992 live recording sound. Or let's see TODOS SOMOS AUTODEFENSAS – PICTURE 7″. It is said that it is self financed, and not genocide organ, but then again, if you look at the matrix, run out groove text.... " TESCO+++ GO - MIRELES / A" hmm... Decent bleak track on one side, sounds very familiar in all ways. B-side with speech.
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on January 05, 2023, 09:11:49 AM
For guys who keep missing all reissues, there is curious situation, to test how not having GO logo gives you little extra time
[...]
TODOS SOMOS AUTODEFENSAS – PICTURE 7″
I haven't sold a single copy of this and I have indeed wondered if it's because it doesn't say "Genocide Organ" on it.
Quote from: absurdexposition on January 05, 2023, 04:11:11 PM
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on January 05, 2023, 09:11:49 AM
For guys who keep missing all reissues, there is curious situation, to test how not having GO logo gives you little extra time
[...]
TODOS SOMOS AUTODEFENSAS – PICTURE 7″
I haven't sold a single copy of this and I have indeed wondered if it's because it doesn't say "Genocide Organ" on it.
That is actually hilarious considering how obvious it is related to their "Obituary" output. I mean the available sample (on Tesco) is very short, but that has not stopped any of the "religious" 7inches selling out within a day or two. Almost can't imagine the resellers and grifters only read the first name that pops up. But maybe the dedicated fanbase is indeed a lot smaller than the 12 hour sale window of actual GO items may suggest.
Anyways, always excited for new material/live recordings/outtakes or whatever, so I'm looking forward to Maunduni-Mau and the people's temple 7"
Quote from: HONOR_IS_KING! on January 04, 2023, 09:33:00 PM
Quote from: Johann on January 04, 2023, 09:26:15 PM
Quote from: HONOR_IS_KING! on January 04, 2023, 06:38:20 PM
Quote from: Johann on January 04, 2023, 04:50:13 AM
Quote from: Eigen Bast on January 03, 2023, 09:27:09 PM
Fairly certain there was no plan to reschedule those shows
It's interesting that they also apparently made no plan to refund money then
That's not GO's fault. That responsibility was in the hands of those booking it.
Never said it was GO's fault, I know it certainly is not, unfortunately I don't know who was booking it. If you know please let me know, I'll take it up with them directly.
No use in pointing you to any of the them. No one has gotten a refund and its not happening.
Well it should at least be thrown into rip-off alerts so people can choose to never do business with them on any other stuff they're involved in. I think we can agree that's at least fair.
Quote from: Johann on January 05, 2023, 05:24:04 PM
Quote from: HONOR_IS_KING! on January 04, 2023, 09:33:00 PM
Quote from: Johann on January 04, 2023, 09:26:15 PM
Quote from: HONOR_IS_KING! on January 04, 2023, 06:38:20 PM
Quote from: Johann on January 04, 2023, 04:50:13 AM
Quote from: Eigen Bast on January 03, 2023, 09:27:09 PM
Fairly certain there was no plan to reschedule those shows
It's interesting that they also apparently made no plan to refund money then
That's not GO's fault. That responsibility was in the hands of those booking it.
Never said it was GO's fault, I know it certainly is not, unfortunately I don't know who was booking it. If you know please let me know, I'll take it up with them directly.
No use in pointing you to any of the them. No one has gotten a refund and its not happening.
Well it should at least be thrown into rip-off alerts so people can choose to never do business with them on any other stuff they're involved in. I think we can agree that's at least fair.
If you paid via Paypal or American Express you can always open a claim of fraud. Not sure what the limitation statute is on these type of situations, but too much time may have gone by. I called Amex 9 months later on something and they took care of it pronto. It wasn't a scene related issue however. Someone has to know they juked a bunch of people for their money. Start at the top and work your way down.
To Taylor:
If it doesn't say "Genocide Organ" or "Operation Cleansweep", does it even exist?
Quote from: DadaDrumming on January 05, 2023, 06:08:06 PM
To Taylor:
If it doesn't say "Genocide Organ" or "Operation Cleansweep", does it even exist?
Evidently not!
Quote from: impulse manslaughter on January 03, 2023, 11:46:46 PM
The pre-orders for the new LP went very fast. Sold out in a few hours. New 7" is also sold out now..
https://tesco-germany.com/produkt/genocide-organ-maunduni-mau-ltd250-lp-pre-order-2-3-2-23/
Is there any info about the album except for this pre-order page? Nothing came up in my searches but maybe I'm looking in the wrong place. Not on their newsletter or anything. Looking forward to it.
There was a link on the Tesco Facebook page. No additional info.
The recent "Attitude Ethics" tape was also very good, I think it is probably some of their strongest live material. Sadly, another highly limited release if one prefers physical media: https://detainmenttapes.bandcamp.com/album/attitude-ethics
Quote from: impulse manslaughter on January 03, 2023, 11:46:46 PM
The pre-orders for the new LP went very fast. Sold out in a few hours. New 7" is also sold out now..
https://tesco-germany.com/produkt/genocide-organ-maunduni-mau-ltd250-lp-pre-order-2-3-2-23/
I read the description of this new live LP and I'm even more convinced that this band has become a mash-up between a kind of sectary cult and a marketing operation.
The LP is a little muddy, but the 7" turns out to be really good - esp. the second side, "18 Nov 1978". The subject isn't all that original, but it fits the series. Looks like my favourite after the "Kahane Chai" one.
The recent LP and live cassette are now up for preorder on the Tesco site... for those who don't want to give $300 to that one douchebag on here.
Quote from: Balor/SS1535 on January 08, 2023, 07:47:49 PM
The recent "Attitude Ethics" tape was also very good, I think it is probably some of their strongest live material. Sadly, another highly limited release if one prefers physical media: https://detainmenttapes.bandcamp.com/album/attitude-ethics
That's a good one. Doesn't look like the cassette edition has sold out just yet. But at eighteen euro before postage I'm not surprised. Fifteen from the Tesco website, though.
QuoteWe will make the cassette available again soon.
To stop these fuckers & pimps dealing with idiotic usury prices at discogs or elsewhere.
The additional cassettes will come Spring 2023.
To avoid further rip-off prices and to stop these scum bastards.
Peole can always just instantly download the thing for half a euro and solve all those issues.
Quote from: burdizzo1 on February 25, 2023, 12:32:46 AM
The LP is a little muddy, but the 7" turns out to be really good - esp. the second side, "18 Nov 1978". The subject isn't all that original, but it fits the series. Looks like my favourite after the "Kahane Chai" one.
Nothing surprising or original but that new 7" is solid indeed. Glad is was able to grab a copy and keep my GO 7" collection complete.
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on February 26, 2023, 05:02:51 AM
QuoteWe will make the cassette available again soon.
To stop these fuckers & pimps dealing with idiotic usury prices at discogs or elsewhere.
The additional cassettes will come Spring 2023.
To avoid further rip-off prices and to stop these scum bastards.
huh, that's weird, seems exact opposite of the message on the LP preorder page:
QuoteFor the ultimate Ego-Experience: Order as many as you want!
We will sort you out. An Order is only an order, nothing else!
Quote from: chryptusrecords on February 26, 2023, 09:34:29 PM
huh, that's weird, seems exact opposite of the message on the LP preorder page:
True. Anything for promotion, I guess.
QuoteFor the ultimate Ego-Experience: Order as many as you want!
We will sort you out. An Order is only an order, nothing else!
[/quote]
The above message was the same when the LP was announced and first went on order. After it sold out, Tesco further announced on FB they needed to weed out multiple orders to see if any copies remained. So while you seemed to be invited to order more than one copy, in actuality it was one copy per person. Was this an exercise for them to see who might be unscrupulous customers? Who knows?
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on February 26, 2023, 05:02:51 AM
Quote from: Balor/SS1535 on January 08, 2023, 07:47:49 PM
The recent "Attitude Ethics" tape was also very good, I think it is probably some of their strongest live material. Sadly, another highly limited release if one prefers physical media: https://detainmenttapes.bandcamp.com/album/attitude-ethics
That's a good one. Doesn't look like the cassette edition has sold out just yet. But at eighteen euro before postage I'm not surprised. Fifteen from the Tesco website, though.
QuoteWe will make the cassette available again soon.
To stop these fuckers & pimps dealing with idiotic usury prices at discogs or elsewhere.
The additional cassettes will come Spring 2023.
To avoid further rip-off prices and to stop these scum bastards.
Peole can always just instantly download the thing for half a euro and solve all those issues.
18 Euro---or even 15 Euro for a single cassette is pretty steep. I think I will go with the download one of these days!
Quote from: re:evolution on February 26, 2023, 11:46:30 PM
Was this an exercise for them to see who might be unscrupulous customers?
in order to do what, keep their money anyway?
Quote from: chryptusrecords on February 28, 2023, 04:40:52 PM
Quote from: re:evolution on February 26, 2023, 11:46:30 PM
Was this an exercise for them to see who might be unscrupulous customers?
in order to do what, keep their money anyway?
I don't imagine Tesco would ever be that unscrupulous. But for arguments sake, what about choosing not to honour an order now or in future? But like I said in my original post 'who knows?'. I only posted originally to clarify an earlier comment.
Surely some people here must have gotten their copy of the new double album by now - if so, please share your thoughts.
Double LP hits heavy on the first listen. Mostly droning heavy electronics sound as we have gotten used to from the 7" series, less rhythmic, very noisy. Copious contemporary voice samples, critical industrial americana. Some German, some colonial mixed in. With a total of 18 tracks, songwriting appears slightly formulaic. But in regards to sound and pressure basically all of them hit the mark. Four tracks were published before on Tipping Point, might have been slightly remastered*, have not compared them directly yet. Will sink my teeth in the coming few days, but it impressed me a lot more on the first play than the Prurient collaboration. Still the masters of the craft.
I imagine this to be more of a compilation of tracks composed throughout the past decade, but could be wrong of course. LP is a bit quiet, but sounds amazing. Production clean as on Obituaries. Artwork and presentation as usual.
*Edit: Small Boys Unit is different for sure.
Quote from: pidgeons on January 08, 2024, 08:04:39 PMDouble LP hits heavy on the first listen. Mostly droning heavy electronics sound as we have gotten used to from the 7" series, less rhythmic, very noisy. Copious contemporary voice samples, critical industrial americana. Some German, some colonial mixed in. With a total of 18 tracks, songwriting appears slightly formulaic. But in regards to sound and pressure basically all of them hit the mark. Four tracks were published before on Tipping Point, might have been slightly remastered*, have not compared them directly yet. Will sink my teeth in the coming few days, but it impressed me a lot more on the first play than the Prurient collaboration. Still the masters of the craft.
I imagine this to be more of a compilation of tracks composed throughout the past decade, but could be wrong of course. LP is a bit quiet, but sounds amazing. Production clean as on Obituaries. Artwork and presentation as usual.
*Edit: Small Boys Unit is different for sure.
Yep, not much to add to this. I got the 2xCD in the mail today and threw it in immediately. Sounds amazing. Slow and heavy and GO proves once again that they're the master of the craft. Quite a lot of Jan 6 riot samples for those wondering about themes. Maybe some other samples from the botched Afghanistan withdrawal? Hard to tell. Embossed cover is a nice touch but I don't think that's anything new? I haven't bought a physical release from them in a while but it seems that most of the latest ones have the same treatment.
Very good. I started with CD version, listened few times. There are couple moments with samples, where it is not exactly glitchy, but there are couple sounds that I thought almost as if CD is starting to skip - not music, but just the type of sound appears for very short moment. I had that problem with couple CD's over the years with old CD player I use at work. Decided to open it, clean the lazer and try again. Ended up having broken CD player refusing to even recognize discs anymore, hah.. fuck. Luckily I had couple "almost operational" extra CD players at home. Got one of those that had been in storage too long and the docking system had jammed. Now working fine. CD sound very "big" compared to vinyl, and furthermore, tape version is the nastiest. And the "glitches" I thought I heard, they play on all CD players as well as are present in other media too so there is nothing wrong with presses, it is probably noises of the spoken samples... well, one CD player sacrificed for GO.
Those who want the stuff extra dirty, could be recommended tape version, as it is really way more saturated and compacts sound. Not as wide and clear full blown stereo sound. I realize that the description with such rugged industrial & PE sound may feel funny, but indeed difference is very audible. LP edition sounds very good, some extra grit compared to CD.
Normally I do not buy "multiple formats" from almost any band, but there are these couple artists that I have tried not to. Such as settling with one black vinyl 7" of GO, instead of 5x7" color variation box. This album, cd/vinyl combination seemed necessary. Tape happened to come as unexpected bonus.
I recall I did comment on the tape set (perhaps on this forum), that I'd hope GO would do something like this on albums. Not that I would not like albums, but while some people commented that tapes were simple and easy tracks, I thought quite differently. Simple, yes, but easy? There is nothing easier in noise than piling up layers until it sounds "complex" or "advanced" and as if one did "a lot of work". It is vastly more difficult to make simple song with couple noise elements that work out great. With this album, many tracks are seemingly simpler and darker. Appears to be that bold move that you don't need to start piling up more sample layers and more vocals etc.. It can work great with couple brooding synth tones and flanged voice, which managed to create something NOBODY has been doing like that, other than GO.
Double album clocking 80 mins may be tough to swallow for those who don't like bleak and dark GO sound, but for the lovers of the style, personally this feels like one of the very best GO since... not sure what album to name drop here? That said, I would need to revisit many of the newer albums with fresh ears!
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on January 20, 2024, 10:04:52 AMVery good. I started with CD version, listened few times. There are couple moments with samples, where it is not exactly glitchy, but there are couple sounds that I thought almost as if CD is starting to skip - not music, but just the type of sound appears for very short moment. I had that problem with couple CD's over the years with old CD player I use at work. Decided to open it, clean the lazer and try again. Ended up having broken CD player refusing to even recognize discs anymore, hah.. fuck. Luckily I had couple "almost operational" extra CD players at home. Got one of those that had been in storage too long and the docking system had jammed. Now working fine. CD sound very "big" compared to vinyl, and furthermore, tape version is the nastiest. And the "glitches" I thought I heard, they play on all CD players as well as are present in other media too so there is nothing wrong with presses, it is probably noises of the spoken samples... well, one CD player sacrificed for GO.
Those who want the stuff extra dirty, could be recommended tape version, as it is really way more saturated and compacts sound. Not as wide and clear full blown stereo sound. I realize that the description with such rugged industrial & PE sound may feel funny, but indeed difference is very audible. LP edition sounds very good, some extra grit compared to CD.
Normally I do not buy "multiple formats" from almost any band, but there are these couple artists that I have tried not to. Such as settling with one black vinyl 7" of GO, instead of 5x7" color variation box. This album, cd/vinyl combination seemed necessary. Tape happened to come as unexpected bonus.
I recall I did comment on the tape set (perhaps on this forum), that I'd hope GO would do something like this on albums. Not that I would not like albums, but while some people commented that tapes were simple and easy tracks, I thought quite differently. Simple, yes, but easy? There is nothing easier in noise than piling up layers until it sounds "complex" or "advanced" and as if one did "a lot of work". It is vastly more difficult to make simple song with couple noise elements that work out great. With this album, many tracks are seemingly simpler and darker. Appears to be that bold move that you don't need to start piling up more sample layers and more vocals etc.. It can work great with couple brooding synth tones and flanged voice, which managed to create something NOBODY has been doing like that, other than GO.
Double album clocking 80 mins may be tough to swallow for those who don't like bleak and dark GO sound, but for the lovers of the style, personally this feels like one of the very best GO since... not sure what album to name drop here? That said, I would need to revisit many of the newer albums with fresh ears!
This is a great review, better than any press release. My album is still in transit but I am totally pumped. I can relate a lot to your comment that simple isn't easier. Takes skill and, above all, taste.
I don't know if it's me (most likely) or not but I don't find any of this "complexity" or anything so extremely impressive in this new Genocide Organ. I found already "Tipping Point" quite boring, so I bought the new one conscious of this fact in mind but still, a new Genocide Organ long-playing work, too tempting... and I have to say that the new tracks, combined with the "Tipping Point" stuff, sound more interesting, the whole thing has a spooky and haunting atmosphere, and overall it is a decent album for sure, with the classic Genocide Organ's trademark, but - at least to my first plays - it sounds quite "basic" and somehow not really scratching very much below the surface.
It doesn't hit like Obituary of the Americas for me. I've been listening to a lot of their back catalogue in anticipation of Hospital Fest and not immediately grabbed by this new one. It sounds fine but not gripping.
My copy of Death Zone just arrived-based on one listen I think it makes a great companion piece to OoA... slower and quieter in a way verging on the more death industrial but it complements it well sonically and thematically. It will take more listens I think to get the most out of it. Don't think it will replace OoA as my favourite GO album though.
Yes; a strong album, but from the mighty Genocide Organ, it lacks a little something.