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GENERAL SOUND DISCUSSION => GENERAL SOUND DISCUSSION => Topic started by: Nyodene D on April 23, 2011, 08:39:37 PM

Title: Industrial Metal
Post by: Nyodene D on April 23, 2011, 08:39:37 PM
Recent bands like Sektor 304 are definitely crossing the intersection between rhythmic industrial and metal / noise rock and it seems that Godflesh / Jesu / Head Of David is well enjoyed by people in HN/PE/Industrial.

Mental Destruction almost seems to walk this line (especially on Straw)

Good list of bands to discuss / check out:

INSWARM
Nailbomb
Abigor
Christdriver
Depressor


Title: Re: Industrial Metal
Post by: SKY BURIAL on April 23, 2011, 08:52:30 PM
I recommend Axis of Perdition for those interested in the less "jack hammer" style of industrial metal. They blend black metal with and old-school industrial/dark ambient sound. http://theaxisofperdition.com/


Pitchshifter's first album "Industrial" is akin to the projects mentioned in the first post.

The Young Gods would fall loosely into this genre and remain one of my favorite bands.

Meathook Seed's (members of Napalm Death and Obituary) first album "Embedded" was a great album of "industrial death metal".

Title: Re: Industrial Metal
Post by: Nyodene D on April 23, 2011, 08:57:41 PM
cool, interested to check them out.  Where do you recommend starting?
Title: Re: Industrial Metal
Post by: SKY BURIAL on April 23, 2011, 09:04:20 PM
For Axis of Perdition, "Deleted Scenes from the Transition Hospital" is my favorite. Have yet to hear the newer recordings.
Title: Re: Industrial Metal
Post by: GEWALTMONOPOL on April 23, 2011, 09:47:35 PM
I think NEUROSIS - Through Silver in Blood album should count as industrial metal. I know it doesn't but listen to it and those are the two elements it's made up of.
Title: Re: Industrial Metal
Post by: Nyodene D on April 23, 2011, 09:50:23 PM
for what it's worth, the whole drum machines thing is great but isn't necessary for something to feel "industrial" i guess...

For instance, yes, Neurosis's stuff or the presentation and overall sound of that band BATILLUS.

Title: Re: Industrial Metal
Post by: Nyodene D on April 23, 2011, 09:59:27 PM
i almost wish there was more doom / black metal stuff that approached "industrial" like how we mean it and less like how Godflesh did.  By no means am I slagging on the sound Godflesh has inspired (I quite enjoy it actually), but I'd love to hear metal that blends influences of bands, say, like Megaptera or others with metal.  I almost wish that was the trend of more "black noise" stuff instead of the stuff (besides GTT / Aderlating) that falls under it.

For instance, I really like the way ambient / death industrial was treated by CMI and Loki Foundation stuff, but would love to hear something that blended that aesthetic without it being "interludes" or the one long dark ambient track surrounded by 5-8 min metal songs. 

I guess the closest thing to what I mean is probably Mz.412 and newer Sewer Goddess (the split with Diseased Oblivion and the full length come to mind). 

Title: Re: Industrial Metal
Post by: Zeno Marx on April 24, 2011, 03:20:01 AM
Dissecting Table - Groping in the Dark 2002

10 tracks.  Songs proper.  No stretch to consider this "industrial metal".   Not my thing, but I have a lot of respect, and interest, in Dissecting Table.  Executed well...as well as the Meathook Seed album, which is one of the few albums from this niche that I think to revisit.
Title: Re: Industrial Metal
Post by: SKY BURIAL on April 24, 2011, 03:32:05 AM
For those who haven't searched them out, here's some Axis of Perdition: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27LFm9zHhp8

Doesn't get much much more "industrial metal" than Morbid Angel mixed by Laibach: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygBFPq2zaJ8
Title: Re: Industrial Metal
Post by: P-K on April 24, 2011, 09:26:56 AM
the Japanese Mothra

the rather Skinny Puppy-esque Malformed Earthborn

the very-Godflesh-like Deathless

early Scorn

doom/deathmetalband diSEMBOWELMENT, creating looong slow doomscapes without resulting into "doomdrone"

early Swans !
Title: Re: Industrial Metal
Post by: FreakAnimalFinland on April 24, 2011, 11:13:52 AM
Iugula-Thor "the wheel of process" 12" is one of my all time favorite "industrial-metal" recordings.
If you have only heard the bands PE works (Bloodlust, Jinx, many compialtions), or noise works (GROSS, OEC,..) give still try to this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSewVsIVeJY
Unfortunately just the a-side. It combines the atmosphere of religious spiritual music, "CMI" era dark ambient, with sepultura sampling (hah!) industrial metal assaults. It's more industrial than it is metal, but with vocal style and heavy metal guitars in mix, perfect in my opinion.  "industrial metal" is much more audible in the b-side hits "Propeller Sodom Lucifer" and "Pigskull Loudspeaker"!
One quite similar track can be found on nearly perfect Tesco release "Assholes", which seems always to be available for cheap (Finnish can check out 2nd hand bin on Sarvilevyt!), but I rate it high!

I think Iugula-Thor would require topic of its own. Band with pretty long history, with plenty of diversity in their discography, and majority of it - unique!
Title: Re: Industrial Metal
Post by: ARKHE on April 24, 2011, 02:55:37 PM
HAVOHEJ, they've been mentioned in the bm/noise-thread, but his approach is at least to me worthy of a mention where industrial & metal is discussed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znmi7spN_gg&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gyd-33hACg&feature=related
The b-side of the Hornbook Seytan 10" is only a thunderous murmur that could just as well have been by some industrial act. Not on youtube though.
Title: Re: Industrial Metal
Post by: fin de siècle on April 24, 2011, 04:36:31 PM
Popular Industrial-Metal from early 90s is:

Pitch Shifter - Industrial CD
Pitch Shifter - Death Industrial 7" EP http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WspG4Lgu8yg&feature=related
Pitch Shifter - Submit 12" EP
MeathookSeed - Embedded CD
Malformed Earthborn - 1st CD
Sonic Violence - Transfixion CD http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qo3vb71s9oM

Other Death Metal related Industrial-Metal projects I would also mention here:

Catatonic Existence 7" (must have!) http://www.myspace.com/catatonicexistence
Catatonic Existence/Meat Shits Split 7" (must have!)
Dissecting Table - 1st 4 CD albums incl. Dead Zone
Title: Re: Industrial Metal
Post by: Nyodene D on April 24, 2011, 08:11:18 PM
Quote from: pestdemon on April 24, 2011, 02:55:37 PM
HAVOHEJ, they've been mentioned in the bm/noise-thread, but his approach is at least to me worthy of a mention where industrial & metal is discussed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znmi7spN_gg&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gyd-33hACg&feature=related
The b-side of the Hornbook Seytan 10" is only a thunderous murmur that could just as well have been by some industrial act. Not on youtube though.

Forgot about them, the "Kembatin Premaster" 10" is fantastic. heard it for the first time on tour and sought it out as soon as I got home...
Title: Re: Industrial Metal
Post by: Nyodene D on April 25, 2011, 10:35:48 PM
I finally got around to checking out Dead World (John Canady from Deathpile, Angel of Decay).  If you're into the Godflesh-esque industrial style, this stuff is absolutely essential to hear.  Less "shoegazy" and more straight-up noise interludes. I actually like this more than both Deathpile and AoD (except for G.R. anyway, but that one sets the bar pretty damn high...)

Thanatos Descends is available from Bloodlust! webstore, and I saw a used copy of The Machine on vinyl a few weeks ago for ten bucks at a local shop.

Title: Re: Industrial Metal
Post by: IanDB on April 26, 2011, 02:26:53 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oUeDw6uDTI

Mysticum.  different from the others mentioned - old school black metal with pounding drum machines.  one of the best and most overlooked of the classic norwegian bands.
Title: Re: Industrial Metal
Post by: Nyodene D on April 26, 2011, 02:44:46 AM
I guess I forgot something that strays pretty close to the "industrial-meets-metal" style in the band Wolvserpent (formerly Pussygutt). Their releases are a kind of submerged funeral doom under violin and synth loops and weird samples of stuff...like, as i was hoping to find, if Megaptera or Inade made doom metal...

http://youtu.be/DzvCPtwvt5k
Title: Re: Industrial Metal
Post by: Cauldhame on April 26, 2011, 04:19:41 AM
Quote from: SKY BURIAL on April 23, 2011, 08:52:30 PM
I recommend Axis of Perdition for those interested in the less "jack hammer" style of industrial metal.

Thank you for the mention; as it happens, we have a new album out next Monday called "Tenements (Of The Anointed Flesh)". It's more of a straight metal album though which may not hit the spot as far as this thread is concerned. Conversely, the previous album "Urfe" is mostly industrial with a predominant spoken word presence (it's regularly referred to as an audio-book with bells on by industrial-ignorant metalheads) but may not have a great deal to offer forum users here that they can't get elsewhere. The album Sky Burial quoted is probably the closest to a balanced symbiotic relationship between the different sonic ingredients.

I'm not too good a salesman; better to talk straight.
Title: Re: Industrial Metal
Post by: Bereft on April 26, 2011, 04:54:43 AM
Seilwolf is a goodplace to start,   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ia49bcqOZdM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ia49bcqOZdM)

and if you don,t mind "ebm" in the front 242 sense of the word, swamp terrorists are always fun.
Title: Re: Industrial Metal
Post by: tiny_tove on April 26, 2011, 09:24:43 AM
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on April 24, 2011, 11:13:52 AM
Iugula-Thor "the wheel of process" 12" is one of my all time favorite "industrial-metal" recordings.
If you have only heard the bands PE works (Bloodlust, Jinx, many compialtions), or noise works (GROSS, OEC,..) give still try to this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSewVsIVeJY
Unfortunately just the a-side. It combines the atmosphere of religious spiritual music, "CMI" era dark ambient, with sepultura sampling (hah!) industrial metal assaults. It's more industrial than it is metal, but with vocal style and heavy metal guitars in mix, perfect in my opinion.  "industrial metal" is much more audible in the b-side hits "Propeller Sodom Lucifer" and "Pigskull Loudspeaker"!
One quite similar track can be found on nearly perfect Tesco release "Assholes", which seems always to be available for cheap (Finnish can check out 2nd hand bin on Sarvilevyt!), but I rate it high!

I think Iugula-Thor would require topic of its own. Band with pretty long history, with plenty of diversity in their discography, and majority of it - unique!

totally agree.
there were rumours of new stuff. I have helped them live in the first OEC Post Industrial Congress. Top notch people.
Wheel of the process is underrated and definitely would deserve more attention. I consider it one of the milestones of those years and was perfect both in sounds than imagery.
Title: Re: Industrial Metal
Post by: moozz on April 26, 2011, 02:35:45 PM
Skin Chamber was another industrial metal band. A project by Controlled Bleeding members. The first harsh noise track I heard was Swallowing Scrap metal by Skin Chamber.

Candiru could probably be included in this genre, too. The debut album was pretty varied and haven't aged that well IMO. In early '90s it was something new and exciting but later when I got more into industrial I found so much stuff that was way better.
Title: Re: Industrial Metal
Post by: ARKHE on April 26, 2011, 03:58:22 PM
Never read this 'zine, don't know anything about it, but there might be something worthwhile there amidst all the "cyber" bands: http://www.industrializedmetal.com/ - if only for the "F**k'em all" compilations free for download and the cringe-worthy "dance metal" tag...
Title: Re: Industrial Metal
Post by: Strömkarlen on April 26, 2011, 09:44:02 PM
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on April 24, 2011, 11:13:52 AM

One quite similar track can be found on nearly perfect Tesco release "Assholes", which seems always to be available for cheap (Finnish can check out 2nd hand bin on Sarvilevyt!), but I rate it high!


The song Assholes is such a classic. Nothing Metal at all but so fucking top notch it is close to Ravensbrück as one of my fav PE songs of all time. And you can get Assholes for 5 dollars at discogs...
Title: Re: Industrial Metal
Post by: A.R.GH on April 26, 2011, 11:08:35 PM
I guess Ministry is not of the taste of the board members or perhaps not "industrial" enough?(I'll say is more industrial than the already mentioned Nailbomb, for example)"Psalm 69", "The mind is a terrible thing to taste"... excellent albums IMO.
Title: Re: Industrial Metal
Post by: Brad on April 27, 2011, 01:28:44 AM
I'm a Ministry fan too.
Title: Re: Industrial Metal
Post by: m. on April 27, 2011, 09:58:18 AM
"The mind is a terrible..." and "Psalm 69" are great albums

Another band that released fine industrial metal is Red Harvest, and their side-project Dunkelheit.
Title: Re: Industrial Metal
Post by: andy vomit on April 27, 2011, 09:09:42 PM
DODHEIMSGARD - 666 International was much more "industrial" than anything else they'd done..  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QH6yWD9WuE&feature=related

Title: Re: Industrial Metal
Post by: A.R.GH on April 27, 2011, 10:15:55 PM
Quote from: andy vomit on April 27, 2011, 09:09:42 PM
DODHEIMSGARD - 666 International was much more "industrial" than anything else they'd done..  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QH6yWD9WuE&feature=related


that album is beatiful
Title: Re: Industrial Metal
Post by: Nyodene D on May 15, 2011, 04:18:31 AM
holy shit, can't believe i forgot them, but Black Sun from Glasgow.

incredible stuff reminiscent of Godflesh and early Swans, totally nasty. 

Haven't really delved into their newest, but the Paralyser 12" on At War With False Noise is a keeper. Production on the A-side starts out rough, but gets better.  The b-side is merciless pounding sludge-industrial.
Title: Re: Industrial Metal
Post by: SKY BURIAL on May 15, 2011, 06:55:10 PM
MARLINSPIKE. Malaysian band blending industrial/ambient/metal. Been around for 20 years.

http://www.myspace.com/m4rlinspike

Title: Re: Industrial Metal
Post by: gabalgabow on July 27, 2011, 08:51:45 PM
Cool topic!

MONOTREMATA from Usa plays a cool mix of early Godflesh and doom.
http://www.myspace.com/monotremata

There's an english band called CONCRETE LUNG, I have their MCD and it sounds like old indus metal with the right atmosphere... Cool!
http://www.myspace.com/concretelung

LAIBACH also had their industrial metal moments.
Title: Re: Industrial Metal
Post by: Infirmary on August 17, 2011, 11:21:12 AM
I did a release on my label for a local band called "The Latter", it's definitely new and lies in such a broad genre as what could be considered "industrial metal".
Here's how I describe it:

"Electro-organic industrial rock sludge metal with: tight riffing, intelligent drum programming, grooves, and composition that changes suddenly and rides for just the right amount of time when necessary.
There is a sickened viral mood.
It's very catchy but the sun doesn't shine...
Smoothly-produced distorted anguish from these virtually unknown and obsessive Midwest artists who are making a form of music that exists outside the boundary of "scenes"

I have a few copies left before I repress, here's two samples of what it sounds like:
http://soundcloud.com/enemata/the-latter-excerpt-1 (http://soundcloud.com/enemata/the-latter-excerpt-1)
http://soundcloud.com/enemata/the-latter-excerpt-2 (http://soundcloud.com/enemata/the-latter-excerpt-2)

Sat in on one of their practices recently and they pull that off live very well as a four-piece with programmed drums.

Title: Re: Industrial Metal
Post by: tiny_tove on August 25, 2011, 01:07:07 PM
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on April 24, 2011, 11:13:52 AM
Iugula-Thor "the wheel of process" 12" is one of my all time favorite "industrial-metal" recordings.
If you have only heard the bands PE works (Bloodlust, Jinx, many compialtions), or noise works (GROSS, OEC,..) give still try to this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSewVsIVeJY
Unfortunately just the a-side. It combines the atmosphere of religious spiritual music, "CMI" era dark ambient, with sepultura sampling (hah!) industrial metal assaults. It's more industrial than it is metal, but with vocal style and heavy metal guitars in mix, perfect in my opinion.  "industrial metal" is much more audible in the b-side hits "Propeller Sodom Lucifer" and "Pigskull Loudspeaker"!
One quite similar track can be found on nearly perfect Tesco release "Assholes", which seems always to be available for cheap (Finnish can check out 2nd hand bin on Sarvilevyt!), but I rate it high!

I think Iugula-Thor would require topic of its own. Band with pretty long history, with plenty of diversity in their discography, and majority of it - unique!


apparently they are back.

anyway in Italy there is this excellent book I may have already mentioned industrialrevolution-gr.blogspot.com

It gives a wide perspective of the genre from day one until NIn and metal related parts, with a strong focus on them, although not betraying the "canons" and giving plenty of space to GO, Boyd rice, DPI, etc.

It is more an introduction to the genre than a book aimed to experts, but it is realistic, serios and has the guts to deal with several uncorrect projects that usually make liberals cringe.
Title: Re: Industrial Metal
Post by: Stridulum on August 25, 2011, 02:02:17 PM
Quote from: tiny_tove on August 25, 2011, 01:07:07 PM

anyway in Italy there is this excellent book I may have already mentioned http://italy.indymedia.org/


Depla, you gave the wrong link! ;)

http://retaliation.splinder.com/

Thanks for spreading the word, much appreciated.
Title: Re: Industrial Metal
Post by: tiny_tove on August 25, 2011, 02:36:23 PM
lol. I was checking Chris Knight's article on the London revolt's aftermath and got lost

anyway the site I intended to publish is this

http://industrialrevolution-gr.blogspot.com

Title: Re: Industrial Metal
Post by: martialgodmask on August 25, 2011, 09:10:22 PM
Do Halo count? Definition of their sound seems to vary whoever I speak to.

Great band anyway, for what it's worth.
Title: Re: Industrial Metal
Post by: pentd on August 26, 2011, 12:44:49 AM
what... no young gods and/or treponem pal mentioned?!

edit-- haha this old treponem pal "aggravation" album that i havent listened to since 199x sounds more like voivod now than anything industrial. also on yutube some newer stuff pretty embarassing... but this old stuff is ok! still, i seem to remember records from late 80's / early 90's that had some impact, but now they sound mostly annoying. these kinda sounds eventually pushed me away from "industrial" stuff, left me in the dark until recent times

edit 2--- aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa what the fukkk is this the same young gods that released l'eau rouge holy shitski.

ok i give up, this sucks monkey ass. credits to skin chamber and treponem pal's debut. fuck this shit

Title: Re: Industrial Metal
Post by: Bloated Slutbag on October 04, 2011, 12:54:12 PM
This probably belongs in the post mortem thread, but mention of Iugula-Thor jogged my memory:

Crawl/Child
http://urbantheories.blogspot.com/2011/08/crawlchild-self-titled-principles-of.html

I`ve dropped this name more than a few times over the years, to little apparent notice. Their self-titled debut is definitely more industrial than metal, and it`s also heavy as all fuck. Proper songs, averaging four minutes, verse chorus all that, but all swansesque slomo metal percussive brutality and mechanized industrial atmos. Very angry sounding young men.

Intrestingly, their lastfm site tags them "power electronics" and lists "similar artists" like Keloid Schematics, Einleitungszeit, Iugula-Thor, and Grunt!

http://www.last.fm/music/Crawl%252FChild

But the only Crawl/Child recording I`ve got that sounds anything like power electronics is a live-in-radio-studio session I pulled off  the airwaves waaay back, where the percussion is totally enveloped by shrieking knife sharpeners and distant metal percussion. (Probably what they`d sound like if you jack up the background sounds and filter out the percussives, actually). I remember the radio host kept making a big deal out of the fact that they apparently hailed from Pontypool, Ontario; aka Buttfuck, Nowhere. But I think I can dig where he was at. I like to imagine there are angry young lads like this in every other backwater laying form to industrial waste. (Crawl/Child apparently performed live banging the hell out of gas canisters which only later were found to still contain gas! Could`ve made for quite the "explosive" performance...)

EDIT Listening now to Purge The Guilt from the self titled tape and the shit's so distorted as to practically resemble HNW.

EDIT EDIT It should be noted that the follow-up disc Principles Of Exclusion is a far cry from (and methinks far inferior to) the debut tape. Much faster, and bursting with raw energy, the high gain heavily distorted grindcore vibe is cranked to the max at the expense of all the dense texture and deft arrangement that makes the tape such a rare gem.

The gent who posted the above Crawl/Child also gives us Scald here:

http://urbantheories.blogspot.com/2011/08/scald-drowning-in-solitude.html

Definitely more the metal than industrial voice here, but I do appreciate the raw brutality on display. Beats the fuck out of, say, Skin Chamber. Good shit.









Title: Re: Industrial Metal
Post by: P-K on October 04, 2011, 01:34:18 PM
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on April 24, 2011, 11:13:52 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSewVsIVeJY
Unfortunately just the a-side.  "industrial metal" is much more audible in the b-side hits "Propeller Sodom Lucifer" and "Pigskull Loudspeaker"!

here we go
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSkT-RvFyBM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSkT-RvFyBM)
full Slayer worship at 8:00  .....great 12"......if you dig that, check the Forced Flesh cd.
Title: Re: Industrial Metal
Post by: Bloated Slutbag on October 13, 2011, 05:10:33 PM
Quote from: fin de siècle on April 24, 2011, 04:36:31 PM
Dissecting Table - 1st 4 CD albums incl. Dead Zone

If that would include "Music For Performance: Dead Body And Me" I'd be forced to chime in - IF by "metal" we mean layers upon layers of mechanized metals pounding away a la Vivenza. There are a lot of great tracks scattered here and there throughout the DT discog, but this was the closest Mr Tsuji ever got to a completely solid album; achieved primarily by cutting out all that cheeseball EBM ding-a-ling, going straight for dense atmospheric pummeling. (I've further customized my own copy by snipping the ding-a-ling book-ends off of track 3, relegating the album to almost classic spheres.) Unfortunately, the genius buried in all subsequent work suffers severely from the debilitating effects of tourette's. It just doesn't seem fair that this was a one-off dating back to '95; it's so much better than anything else he's ever done. Closes most fittingly with an elongated bit of metal-thunk'd ambient "Orgasm".
Title: Re: Industrial Metal
Post by: andy vomit on October 14, 2011, 08:17:09 PM
Quote from: martialgodmask on August 25, 2011, 09:10:22 PM
Do Halo count? Definition of their sound seems to vary whoever I speak to.

Great band anyway, for what it's worth.

i'd say so.  they're less structured (ie, 100% improvised) than say, godflesh or skin chamber, but i think they fit in. 

amazing band, by the way.  i wish they'd do another full length.
Title: Re: Industrial Metal
Post by: icepick method on October 15, 2011, 06:05:13 PM
Quote from: Bloated Slutbag on October 13, 2011, 05:10:33 PM
Quote from: fin de siècle on April 24, 2011, 04:36:31 PM
Dissecting Table - 1st 4 CD albums incl. Dead Zone

If that would include "Music For Performance: Dead Body And Me" I'd be forced to chime in - IF by "metal" we mean layers upon layers of mechanized metals pounding away a la Vivenza. There are a lot of great tracks scattered here and there throughout the DT discog, but this was the closest Mr Tsuji ever got to a completely solid album; achieved primarily by cutting out all that cheeseball EBM ding-a-ling, going straight for dense atmospheric pummeling. (I've further customized my own copy by snipping the ding-a-ling book-ends off of track 3, relegating the album to almost classic spheres.) Unfortunately, the genius buried in all subsequent work suffers severely from the debilitating effects of tourette's. It just doesn't seem fair that this was a one-off dating back to '95; it's so much better than anything else he's ever done. Closes most fittingly with an elongated bit of metal-thunk'd ambient "Orgasm".

lol, shows how much opinions differ, Music For Performance is one of my least favorite albums from his pre-cdr days. Too much ambient.  I love all the cheeseball ebm drumming. I think of it more like japanese festival teiko drumming if you replaced all their traditional instruments with oil barrels.
Zeno was most correct on page 1 with Groping In The Dark. I've heard a couple people compare that album to The Berzerker. Though like with much of his other work i'm not even sure it's all guitar. He seems to use harsh synth tones and static to perform the same function as a guitar.


Another japanese band worth mentioning is Der Eisenrost. Literally Tetsuo:TIM with more guitars.
http://youtu.be/wTEc1X5kgKE


Would Nunwhore Commando qualify or is that more digi-goregrind? there's Cyanotic (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhiQ_FhDONQ), more in the Ministry/ebm vein.
Title: Re: groping for the dirk
Post by: Bloated Slutbag on October 16, 2011, 05:24:56 AM
Quote from: icepick method on October 15, 2011, 06:05:13 PM
Quote from: Bloated Slutbag on October 13, 2011, 05:10:33 PM

["Music For Performance: Dead Body And Me"] was the closest Mr Tsuji ever got to a completely solid album; achieved primarily by cutting out all that cheeseball EBM ding-a-ling, going straight for dense atmospheric pummeling.

Music For Performance is one of my least favorite albums from his pre-cdr days. Too much ambient.  I love all the cheeseball ebm drumming.

Oh I do too, but it tends to detract in the above-solidified from a quite tense, and otherwise all-pervasive, atmos. I'd count Mr Tsuji and I as kindred in our spirited worship of The (early) Klinik. The man has got a sense of humor and is seldom afraid to show it. Best joke ever: the only thing he ever does for his hero's label is also the least Klinik-esque (though possibly taking cues from Dive...) The closing ambient "Orgasm" is an obvious reference to the frantic masturbating session which immediately followed invitation to "release" on Dirk.
Title: Re: Industrial Metal or A Happy Worker Is An Asshole
Post by: Bloated Slutbag on October 16, 2011, 06:02:55 AM
Mention also ought to be made here of Sink Manhattan

http://freedomhasnobounds.com/?p=484

As far as Discogs knows, SM've got but one lp to their credit. My introduction was their few tracks contributed to RRRecords' first Testament compilation lp (itself absolutely essential solely for the locked SBOTHI grooves, but I digress)

There's a wonderful (fairly harsh) noise tape compilation from the late 90's called Factory Rock, but I think a truer representation of the title would be Sink Manhattan. Basically good ol' hard-driven rock 'n roll augmented with steel on steel and spring coil; plus a brilliant vocalist who sounds like a retarded stuttering refugee from Drunks With Guns. I'd surmise they recorded in an abandoned warehouse, after getting evicted from their basement lab-hole, and just mic'd whatever was on hand. Actually not far from some early Swans - or better, the early Feotus touring group, immortalized as Foetus Corruptus; which is basically Swans with Thirlwell subbing for Gira.
Title: Re: Industrial Metal at 33 rpm
Post by: Bloated Slutbag on October 16, 2011, 06:31:54 AM
All this mention of Halo, Godflesh, Skin Chamber etc makes me want to indulge a favorite (if now largely defunct) passtime: slooooowing the shit the fuck down. That is to say,

Make it right.

This went and still goes without saying when playing back early Swans vinyl. At 33 rpm, the classic "Young God" is Heaviness Incarnate. Though probably my favorite is a slowed down Gira delivering "I Crawled", especially when the demented voice starts crooning "My faaa-thuuurrrr.." Hilarious. Disturbing. Perfect. Needless to say, the same rule applies to all the abovementioned.

Make it right.
Title: Re: Industrial Metal
Post by: P-K on October 17, 2011, 09:17:14 AM
Quote from: icepick method on October 15, 2011, 06:05:13 PMI love all the cheeseball ebm drumming. I think of it more like japanese festival teiko drumming if you replaced all their traditional instruments with oil barrels.

Japanese seem to have a tradition in how they program 'beats', i allways think of Dissecting Table when listening to :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4a1BHUNvKw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4a1BHUNvKw) monstreous Japanese ebm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJv5GjKz2Vc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJv5GjKz2Vc) 2nd Communication-related ...
or
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfjkebnESaQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfjkebnESaQ)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxvzqwgoQb4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxvzqwgoQb4)
or even in japanese avant-jazz :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdAMTBoCtrw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdAMTBoCtrw)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiWici66ov4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiWici66ov4)

and now, ontopic again :-)
Title: Re: Industrial Metal
Post by: Nyodene D on October 18, 2011, 05:54:16 PM
Quote from: Bloated Slutbag on October 04, 2011, 12:54:12 PM

Crawl/Child
http://urbantheories.blogspot.com/2011/08/crawlchild-self-titled-principles-of.html

I`ve dropped this name more than a few times over the years, to little apparent notice. Their self-titled debut is definitely more industrial than metal, and it`s also heavy as all fuck. Proper songs, averaging four minutes, verse chorus all that, but all swansesque slomo metal percussive brutality and mechanized industrial atmos. Very angry sounding young men.


The s/t is awesome.  I can't believe they weren't huge for this.  Thanks!
Title: Re: Industrial Metal
Post by: Bloated Slutbag on July 20, 2012, 12:14:10 PM
Masochistic Religion

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWxgnqmOrb4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xinsb3o0IKs&feature=plcp

Was inspired by my own post in the "Age survey" thread to see what this project was up to. This is all I could find on YouTube, but fairly representative of their heavier/dronier side.

EDIT: "footage from Dutch TV"(!)

And here's something from the main dude's later project, James Junkin Jr

http://music.cbc.ca/#/play/artist/James-Junkin-Jr/Scrapin-Jr-Off-The-Floor

...not at all bad, reminds me of the early live incarnation of Feotus - which from the title would be an obvious inspiration.
Title: Re: Industrial Metal
Post by: bitewerksMTB on July 21, 2012, 03:58:52 AM
Listenng to Iugula-Thor "Wheel of the Process" on youtube now. I'm pretty sure I still have the record. All the other stuff, I sold (still have the bloodlust 7", I think). I liked the 1st full length with all the metal samples b/c it was so ridiculous. Wish the song "I am the Duke of Excitement" was on youtube! Most of his work was ok, some really good but nothing that ever was listened to more than once.

Title: Re: Industrial Metal
Post by: jesusfaggotchrist on August 13, 2012, 03:46:02 PM
I know more rock and less "industrial", but does anyone enjoy Prong?
Title: Re: Industrial Metal
Post by: jesusfaggotchrist on September 25, 2012, 06:05:33 AM
Treponem Pal is the bastard child of Voivod and Prong.

and they are disciples of the Young Gods

so yea, I think they're industrial metal

I can also vouch for Meathook Seed
Title: Re: Industrial Metal
Post by: fin de siècle on December 10, 2012, 11:15:22 AM
I wouldn`t call it Industrial Metal, however still suits somehow to that term ... kinda similar to GGFH, GODFLESH, etc ...

CATATONIC EXISTENCE

is Robert Deathrage and Guy Mulidor, a side project of MEAT SHITS, and one of the sickest, nihilist & bleak projects i know. Virtuous use of movie samples ... simply brilliant!

Yesterday i uploaded two of their best tracks.

Catatonic Existence - M.W.D (Mafia-hit-dub-mix)
http://youtu.be/F1fzGuMO1wU

Catatonic Existence - Blank (Delirium-edit-dub-mix)
http://youtu.be/YK0GjdZyPRw

... however, you need a wicked sense of humor to enjoy this, as much as I do ...
Title: Re: Industrial Metal
Post by: jesusfaggotchrist on December 11, 2012, 08:51:05 PM
anyway i could get a rip of that Catatonic
Existence?
Title: Re: Industrial Metal
Post by: Zeno Marx on October 08, 2020, 07:33:29 PM
industrial metal...industrial crust...I'm still finding myself taking side trips with this stuff.  I can't remember if that started again late last year or early this year.

Sin, from the Sin/Spine Wrench (ex-Deviated Instinct) split, is really good.  I think its all they ever did, too.  That disc isn't easy to find.  It's too bad it hasn't been reissued on CD or made available again on bandcamp.  Spine Wrench needs a discography CD/bandcamp as well, but I was particularly impressed with Sin.

Christbait from Austrlia is all over the place in styles, but their tracks on the Sounds of Ordinary Madness comp and Yeast album are quality industrial metal with a southern fried groove ala EyeHateGod, and sometimes Pantera.  They must be popular there, because a discography 4LP was released this year.

Relapse just released the Realize* album.  From Arizona of all places.  It's good.  Heavy.  Their demo was impressive, so I've been looking forward to more from them.  And a new, full-on industrial metal album in 2020?  Into it.  Recommended.

Decree - Fateless 2011 - this album is heavy and really good.  Everything they did was great, not just the noteworthy Wake of Devastation album.

Pitchshifter - desensitized 1993 - I know some take issue with this band for infringing on Godflesh.  Maybe you had to be in the UK at the time to understand that, but I like them.  This album has aged really well.  Back when everyone put a 20-minute silence on the last track to then hide a track at the end.  I'm glad that trend is long gone.

EDIT:  Realize is related to the power-violence band Sex Prisoner.
Title: Re: Industrial Metal
Post by: andy vomit on October 08, 2020, 07:44:11 PM
BLACK MAGNET "Hallucination Scene"
https://listen.20buckspin.com/album/hallucination-scene

sounds straight out of the 90's. excellent.
Title: Re: Industrial Metal
Post by: Zeno Marx on October 08, 2020, 07:55:23 PM
Quote from: andy vomit on October 08, 2020, 07:44:11 PM
BLACK MAGNET "Hallucination Scene"
https://listen.20buckspin.com/album/hallucination-scene

sounds straight out of the 90's. excellent.
Nice.  Thanks for pointing them out.  Sept.2020.  Reading the comments, I wish I knew more about Chemlab, Skinny Puppy, Front Line Assembly, etc.  I don't know anything about them.
Title: Re: Industrial Metal
Post by: Eigen Bast on October 08, 2020, 08:05:43 PM
I love the Body Clock - Grip Life album. Chris Moriarty from Controlled Bleeding doing some weirdo industrial metal.
Title: Re: Industrial Metal
Post by: W.K. on October 09, 2020, 10:44:41 PM
Quote from: Zeno Marx on October 08, 2020, 07:33:29 PM
industrial metal...industrial crust...I'm still finding myself taking side trips with this stuff.  I can't remember if that started again late last year or early this year.

Are you familiar with the "Tapping the Vein: Industrial Crust" piece some dude wrote on his blog a while ago? If not it's recommended reading, great piece about, well, punks and crusties being influenced by the industrial sound.

Quote from: andy vomit on October 08, 2020, 07:44:11 PM
BLACK MAGNET "Hallucination Scene"

Sounds pretty damn impressive!

Title: Re: Industrial Metal
Post by: Zeno Marx on October 10, 2020, 01:15:19 AM
Quote from: W.K. on October 09, 2020, 10:44:41 PM
Are you familiar with the "Tapping the Vein: Industrial Crust" piece some dude wrote on his blog a while ago? If not it's recommended reading, great piece about, well, punks and crusties being influenced by the industrial sound.
That website has been doing some nice articles.  Negative Insight. 

https://www.negativeinsight.com/niblog/2019/06/the-forgotten-wasteland-industrial-crust.html
Title: Re: Industrial Metal
Post by: Neithan on November 07, 2020, 12:33:33 AM
Few days ago Old Temple released first album from my Nothing Has Changed project. It's something in vibe of early Godflesh, Pitchshifter, Dead World and Slab! You can hear it here: http://nothinghaschanged.bandcamp.com

Also my other band - Whalesong - used to be industrial metal stuff, yet with last record it evolved into mix of industrial, no wave, free jazz, drone and many more. Still 'Disorder' and previous ones are pure industrial metal: http://whalesong.bandcamp.com
Title: Re: Industrial Metal
Post by: slugpace on April 30, 2021, 09:08:43 AM
This is out today and fits the topic more or less:
https://kaoskontrol.bandcamp.com/album/antiface
Title: Re: Industrial Metal
Post by: andy vomit on April 30, 2021, 05:00:36 PM
Quote from: slugpace on April 30, 2021, 09:08:43 AM
This is out today and fits the topic more or less:
https://kaoskontrol.bandcamp.com/album/antiface

good stuff. thanks for the heads up.
Title: Re: Industrial Metal
Post by: FreakAnimalFinland on February 02, 2022, 10:17:48 AM
Finally got the Bunsen "antiface" tape, and it is very good. Multiple times listened, and it's rare case where Godflesh influences are taken this extensively into use, but it works as material is so good. Last track is more noise, while 3 other songs... "for the fans of old Godflesh".. hah.



Title: Re: Industrial Metal
Post by: Hakaristi on February 02, 2022, 11:08:28 AM
Just stumbled across this new Finnish band, Dome Runner. Very well done 90s industrial worship, check out that cover art! - https://domerunner.bandcamp.com/releases

Also, Rage Against the Globalist Machine. NS industrial metal with Hawkwind and No Remorse covers, what more could you need.
Title: Re: Industrial Metal
Post by: FreakAnimalFinland on February 03, 2022, 09:41:32 AM
ah yeah,... Rage Against The Globalist Machine is perhaps not musically so "advanced", but it is unusual! Those who wants music to contain slightly spicy mix of antisemitism and industrial metal with guttural distorted vocals, can appreciate novelty.
Title: Re: Industrial Metal
Post by: Zeno Marx on June 25, 2022, 07:54:11 PM
Polish band that has been around since the 90s, and on labels I've long frequented, but I still had never heard of them until maybe last month.  There's no good reason why I hadn't heard of them, but there I was.  Love when it happens.

https://judejudejude.bandcamp.com/music
Title: Re: Industrial Metal
Post by: FreakAnimalFinland on June 25, 2022, 09:37:20 PM
They sent me multiple promos last year and forwarded to bunch of people who would like them. Decent stuff plus guys are active in doing live events/clubs etc.
Title: Re: Industrial Metal
Post by: FreakAnimalFinland on November 09, 2023, 02:02:54 PM
Industrial metal, I guess band would not want to be called "metal", nor it really is, but damn how good is the new BUNSEN "Burner" CD!
I would dare to say, it could be among the best of "genre" since early days Godflesh. Now also building stronger own identity and feel to music. Drum machine beats are far more innovative than most have, yet keeping in tradition of cold and hard hitting style, and not anything fancy in wrong way. Vocal styles has variation, and first track is almost like Grey Wolves playing "industrial metal". GW is not only name drop from noise. There is short crackle study almost The Rita -esque. CD has also songs that are pretty much pure electronic noise and no music.

https://kaoskontrol.bandcamp.com/album/burner
Title: Re: Industrial Metal
Post by: Leewar on November 19, 2023, 02:16:57 AM
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on November 09, 2023, 02:02:54 PMIndustrial metal, I guess band would not want to be called "metal", nor it really is, but damn how good is the new BUNSEN "Burner" CD!
I would dare to say, it could be among the best of "genre" since early days Godflesh. Now also building stronger own identity and feel to music. Drum machine beats are far more innovative than most have, yet keeping in tradition of cold and hard hitting style, and not anything fancy in wrong way. Vocal styles has variation, and first track is almost like Grey Wolves playing "industrial metal". GW is not only name drop from noise. There is short crackle study almost The Rita -esque. CD has also songs that are pretty much pure electronic noise and no music.

https://kaoskontrol.bandcamp.com/album/burner


This is superb, certainly has the required amount of grime coupled with a great approach to the beats.
Title: Re: Industrial Metal
Post by: DBL on November 19, 2023, 10:28:08 PM
Quote from: Hakaristi on February 02, 2022, 11:08:28 AMJust stumbled across this new Finnish band, Dome Runner. Very well done 90s industrial worship, check out that cover art! - https://domerunner.bandcamp.com/releases
I've yet to get the CD but I saw a good gig from them, very nice stuff. Just noticed they have announced some upcoming split release on their bandcamp page too, good to see this wasn't some one-off.

I was 100% sure I've ranted about Relication here before, but it seems to have been in some different topic. More or less fits the same style and vibes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1T9tbLagcE

Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on November 09, 2023, 02:02:54 PMhttps://kaoskontrol.bandcamp.com/album/burner

This seems VERY good indeed! Gotta get that CD. I'm kinda glad the cover art looks unappealing so I won't get even too excited over it, hah! Their Antiface tape's cover looked really neat though, but I'm pretty sure I haven't actually checked their music before this... Well, better late than never.

This might go a bit off topic, but could still be of interest to some here. Woods Of Belial - Deimos XIII: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlqlLIX48vc
Some Moonsorrow members' quite industrial-vibed sludge/doom or "blackened doom", ehh. It's been ages since I played the earlier demos, but based on this youtube rip they might've been even bleaker in some aspects: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BK1p-yQ6r6g
Title: Re: Industrial Metal
Post by: Cranial Blast on November 22, 2023, 05:32:59 AM
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on February 03, 2022, 09:41:32 AMah yeah,... Rage Against The Globalist Machine is perhaps not musically so "advanced", but it is unusual! Those who wants music to contain slightly spicy mix of antisemitism and industrial metal with guttural distorted vocals, can appreciate novelty.

Unusual indeed, definitely evident of antisemitism / antigloblism under the marginal veil of industrial rock/metal. I 2nd that notion of being able to appreciate the "novelty". It's nothing "advanced" or reinventing the wheel perhaps, but serves it's purpose effectively none the less!