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GENERAL SOUND DISCUSSION => GENERAL SOUND DISCUSSION => Topic started by: FreakAnimalFinland on November 12, 2022, 09:48:17 AM

Title: Project NAMES?
Post by: FreakAnimalFinland on November 12, 2022, 09:48:17 AM
I don't recall there is a topic for discussion of band names. Idea kind of stirred from my latest playlist comment, where new Finnish project RMSS name made me mention one of these new Finnish project names that seem to confuse especially foreigners. After like SSRI,  KSNK, YANA, KITU, AMEK-MAJ, H.Ö.H, NÄSIÄ, MOGAO, APRAPAT, and new Terässinfonia had first public track by FETO, and now you got RMSS and I guess it was mentioned in one of WCN podcasts that it's hard to keep up what is happening, when you don't really "get" the name. You see odd couple letters name, which makes little or no sense at all, and got pile of somewhat similar names you have no idea what they are. It is quite different situation from getting tape where band names has clear meaning, something you can write correctly and remember instantly.

My personal non-preferred names tend to be artists working under their own names. Just preference I can't explain, and certainly some of these artists are phenomenal but I would like even more if it was under good project name.
Added nuisance is when names are in difficult languages that you (or other people) always spell wrong.

Other non-preferred names are the ones that are too long or too difficult to say. As great noise something like Ahlzaghalsaguh does, like you can see, still today, I have no clue how to really say or write the name. Of course, name stands out in being so weird.

But then what really makes a GREAT name - or lets say somehow personal favorite?

One category being the short ones with strong impact.
Merzbow
Taint
and that type. Looks good on album cover, flows nicely along discussion.

Then of course, I got soft spot for nasty names. These days when you got all sort of utterly rude and disgusting names, this category has lost little bit of its power when done to level of ridiculousness, but especially back in the day, seeing name GENOCIDE ORGAN, and knowing without hearing that this is something you just have to get!

Black Leather Jesus
Vortex Campaign
The New Blockaders
Sutcliffe Jugend
and so on.

And the oddities. Seeing catalogue where something appear that simply made you want to see what's up:
Violent Onsen Geisha
Gerogerigegege
Nurse With Wound
etc.

Just something that, at least in myself, awoke curiosity, that based on mere name seen in paper list, with nothing else known about it, made me want to place order and check out what it was.

and the second part of discussion...

In other hand, a lot of people when they grow up, seem to be little annoyed about name they picked up as a teenager. Being 40-50 year guy and suddenly it may not seem that satisfying to play gig or put out new album under name they picked up to match the obscure dark and sleazy atmosphere of genre 30+ years ago, hah.  On personal level, GRUNT was picked up when I was 15, and there was short moment in the 90's when I was considering is this name I want to keep "forever". And what should it be, if not that. Needless to say, Grunt stayed. Short, simple, multiple meanings with good metaphors for sound and conceptual things, but certainly couple decades ago was period of thinking something else could be better.  Question being: Your own feelings of name you picked up, have you stopped using name, changed name, just as it wasn't that good after all..
Title: Re: Project NAMES?
Post by: Andrew McIntosh on November 12, 2022, 11:41:20 AM
To be honest, most Noise/Industrial/etc project names don't thrill me that much. When I first started getting into this I was struck by the project names, all seeming to project this very heavy, nasty, "anti" kind of atmosphere that was intriguing enough at the time I guess. But these days it all just seems like much of a muchness. Nothing much seems to spring to mind right now as anything all that interesting.

I suppose I always thought Xenophobic Ejaculation was pretty good for straight up shock value. N., I still like as a nice, blank slate kind of a project name. The name Hands To always confused me, I've got no idea what it's meant to mean and it sounds like one of those random-word kind of project names even though I'm sure it's supposed to have some kind of meaning. Brighter Death Now I still like, it's got a little sardonic irony about it. 
Title: Re: Project NAMES?
Post by: Fields on November 12, 2022, 03:09:09 PM
I've always really liked "Young Hustlers". It's different, memorable, and intriguing. I also have a soft spot for some very "industrial/noise project" sounding names, like S.T.A.B. Electronics, Zona Industriale, etc. although on the flipside they can also be very forgettable.
Title: Re: Project NAMES?
Post by: Bloated Slutbag on November 12, 2022, 04:32:10 PM
As far as I'm concerned, any project name with less than ten syllables is not worth my time.

More seriously, I don't think the name alone ever meant squat. Rather it's the name in combination with the sounds that will elevate. That is, possibly elevate the sounds, or possibly elevate the name or more probably elevate both, the name and the sounds.

Take Swimming Behavior Of The Human Infant. I first heard Swimming Behavior Of The Human Infant on the RRRecords Testament comp (the LP, not to be confused with the CD of the same title, itself not to be confused with the 5x7" of the same title, itself is not to be confused with the VHS of the same title). Where was I? Oh yes. Swimming Behavior Of The Human Infant. First time I heard Swimming Behavior Of The Human Infant, it (Swimming Behavior Of The Human Infant) was just the most alien sounding shit I'd ever heard. Swimming Behavior Of The Human Infant was also my first encounter with locked grooves. In the middle of a fucking compilation. This very alien, alienating, spare and yet rather harsh sound, short snippets in fact, that three or so rotations later will morph into a locked groove. Not once but three times. I've literally chased that particular, very peculiar, and never to be heard from again, Swimming Behavior Of The Human Infant, sound. And not even to be heard again from Swimming Behavior Of The Human Fucking Infant. And indeed, with reference to the liner notes, the (tape) source materials are credited to the combined contributions of Arcane Device, Emil Beaulieau, Illusion Of Safety, Rik Rue. (And, presumably, to Swimming Behavior Of The Human Infant.)

So you take these names, these wonderful names, that alone could never really quite mean squat. Illusion Of Safety. Filthy Turd. Nurse With Wound. Filthy Turd. Zoviet France. Filthy Turd. Swimming Behavior Of The Human Infant. Filthy Turd. And you attach to them sounds that inject that name with massive in potentias of torque.

I mean. If Gerogerigegege were just some fucking grindcore band I would never have been even the slightest bit arsed to bother. But attach that name to something like Senzuri Champion and, well. Champion.

Track titles can go a distance, I'm Herpes, Yes I Am, as of course will artwork. But I want to zero in on the project name and the sound, for anyone who is still with me here. And I think the reason, at least for me, was how I first encountered a good chunk of these projects. That is, via radio. Typically, you'd hear the sounds, these wonderful alien sounds, first. Then, five tracks deep, the (college) radio DJ comes in and announces all the shit you've been listening to for the last forty some minutes. This sort of detachment from context that may cohere when the track title or project name is finally announced (though often missed completely, and thus to forever remain nameless if quite wonderful sounds floating through the airwaves, much of it destined to fade into the recesses of memory).

There are certain memorable ones. Incapacitants. Walking into the record shop every other weekend and seeing Feedback Of NMS. The title, the track titles, FLS Syndrome, the artwork. The project name. Looks...mysterious, alienating, possibly political. Finally, after months of just looking at this stupid disc, having no idear what it sounds like, buying it. Taking it home, pressing play, and, like. Well, fuck. Incapacitants. Naturally. What the hell else were you going to call it?

Filthy Turd. First encounter, split with The Rita. Kill The Women, Rape The Men. The Fish-Woman Has Her Finger In Your Arse-Hole. Press play and the 'turd is, actually, surprisingly, really really good. Couldn't believe I'd slept on the project to that point. See, the sounds need to attach themselves, right? Else, who gives a shit? Besides, the fish-woman has her finger in your arse-hole.
Title: Re: Project NAMES?
Post by: Balor/SS1535 on November 12, 2022, 05:52:31 PM
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on November 12, 2022, 11:41:20 AM
I suppose I always thought Xenophobic Ejaculation was pretty good for straight up shock value. N., I still like as a nice, blank slate kind of a project name.

These are two that immediately came to mind for me as well.  Xenophobic Ejaculation is especially great for its double meaning.

Another one for me would be Atrax Morgue.  Equally direct and obscure.
Title: Re: Project NAMES?
Post by: NerveGas on November 12, 2022, 10:10:30 PM
A fan of rougher, hard edged, slightly bizarre names:

666 Volt Battery Noise
Black Leather Jesus
Sewer Election
Macronympha

And also simple classics such as:

Mania
The Haters
Militia

I am actually quite a fan of the name Ahlzagailzehguh. Of course it's hard to spell or pronounce but it's fitting for the project. Perhaps thr Sonic quality plays into some bias I have, but I stand by it as a good name.
Title: Re: Project NAMES?
Post by: HateSermon on November 12, 2022, 10:56:50 PM
I've been a fan of black metal longer than I have of noise / PE so I think by the time I was looking for noise to listen to I was a little numb to the extreme names. Except for maybe Genocide Organ or XE. Those will always stand out.
I'm fond of the F&V associated names. Sadistic Bliss, Bizarre Uproar, Menacing 84, Sick Seed ("Burning in my balls!"), Snuff etc.
Keith's project names too. Classics like Mania, Taint. Easy to remember. Molester Surprise Group is a bit comical to me.
Title: Re: Project NAMES?
Post by: Kaaoskultti on November 13, 2022, 02:16:46 AM
As far as I'm concerned, Genocide Lolita is probably the most Power Electronics-sounding name ever, heh.
Title: Re: Project NAMES?
Post by: Bloated Slutbag on November 13, 2022, 05:56:45 AM
Quote from: Balor/SS1535 on November 12, 2022, 05:52:31 PM
especially great for its double meaning

I wanted to emphasize this too. The double, triple, or multiple meanings, especially with words that can be both nouns and verbs, say, which themselves have multiple meanings. All of which are interesting, obscure, possibly humorous. But which could still serve to sum up whole fields of sound. Taint, say. Testicle Hazard has at least a few good ways of reading what might constitute the hazard, depending on the POV.

Also on that lexical level, I often wonder how names play out in other languages. I've often got the impression that plenty of locals in Japan, who would have no knowledge or interest in noise, consistently love the name Mo*Te. Which I'm not going to try to parse, but it would seem to be regarded as rather clever. Hijokaidan, too, for perhaps more obvious reasons. And Gerogerigegege, which little kids love (puking and shitting, what more is there in a five year-old's life?).

Then there are the cool names that are based on real names, G.X. Jupitter Larsen or Q.R. Ghazala, and which work especially well in the context of the deliberate obscurity of the projects. The former apparently one planet over from his idol. Diamanda Galas. Is that her real name? Is a cool name. And how bout Xenakis, how cool is that? (at least for an English speaker)

And the one-offs that work precisely in the context of their one-off-hood. The Nordic Miracle - We Shall Provide. They so do.

The New Boyfriends would not have been particularly memorable, save the awesome cover on their debut. Couldn't possibly have the one without the other. (Admittedly does get better on name alone when you acknowledge the acronym.)

I rather hope Molester Surprise Group is a riff on Male Rape Group, also somehow get vibes of Strange Feeling, Shit Coming in that one.

R.H.Y. Yau. Another great one with minor name-tweaking that stands out as particularly vivid, or visual. A more purely visual sorta name, which I comment elsewhere kinda looks like a sigil: H.Ö.H

If I recall correctly, Sewer Election also briefly went by Sewer Erection, a confusion of which seemed like a good little wink and nudge for a project starting in a field then still dominated by the JP crew.

Violent Onsen Geisha is great, of course, made better by the fact that it issued from My Fiance's Lifework and the story- amplified by people like Paul Lemos- that the primary instigator had died in a motorcycle accident before any of the shit was released.

Once in an alcohol addled moment I uh serenaded one of the Golden Serenades tapes, of which photographic evidence hopefully no longer survives.

edit
Forgot to mention everyone's new fave: The California Raisins

Tangential to that, still waiting with bated breath for the return of Cookie.
Title: Re: Project NAMES?
Post by: Stipsi on November 13, 2022, 01:32:01 PM
I always loved whorebutcher.
Gore, filthy and ridiculous at the same time.
Great project btw
Title: Re: Project NAMES?
Post by: Zeno Marx on November 13, 2022, 06:38:25 PM
Quote from: Bloated Slutbag on November 13, 2022, 05:56:45 AM
The New Boyfriends would not have been particularly memorable, save the awesome cover on their debut. Couldn't possibly have the one without the other. (Admittedly does get better on name alone when you acknowledge the acronym.)
a little ashamed of how long it took me to get this one
Title: Re: Project NAMES?
Post by: FreakAnimalFinland on November 14, 2022, 09:31:34 AM
Quote from: Bloated Slutbag on November 13, 2022, 05:56:45 AM
I wanted to emphasize this too. The double, triple, or multiple meanings, especially with words that can be both nouns and verbs, say, which themselves have multiple meanings. All of which are interesting, obscure, possibly humorous. But which could still serve to sum up whole fields of sound. Taint, say. Testicle Hazard has at least a few good ways of reading what might constitute the hazard, depending on the POV.

Haha! But also, thirdly, like many times in case of Mr. Keränen, the actual joke lies in finnish vs english translation. Kivesvaara being the place up north around where he was born at, and while vaara means "danger", it is also word for used for "forested hill", natural hill that is is formed from large rocks and at least 50 meters high. These appeared in scandinavia during iceage. Well, but besides that, Kivesvaara means kind of "rocky forested hill", the words also mean Kives = testicles, Vaara = danger/hazard.
Most of his song titles, even former artists name Rulla, was pretty much funny translations of words or expressions in Finnish, what become highly amusing if translated literally to English.

Some stuff requires also knowledge in low-class Finn culture. Like Fifty-Sixty LP. Anyone, of our age in Finland will know what this album titled means. In case of Keränen live activities, sometimes it does seem like jumping into great harsh sounds is really fifty-sixty chance, heh..



Title: Re: Project NAMES?
Post by: -NRRRRK- on November 14, 2022, 11:07:57 AM
Not really into projects with "author names", but Lasse Marhaug somehow sounds really good to me (and I enjoy his work as well).

Names that are obvioulsy "edgy" are often times a little boring to me.
Same goes of names which are intentionally difficult to read or pronounce.

Fan of the names of Japanese projects: Merzbow is really elegant. Hijokaidan and Hanatarash sound interesting. C.C.C.C. somehow appeals.

Big fan of "obscure" names like the mentioned H.Ö.H. or Aprapat.
I like Haare a lot, as somehow it fits with the content of the project though there is now direct connection at all.

Interesting thought is how names age or percection of names change over time. When I took Noisewerrrrk as a project name I somehow thought it sounded good and fit the music. Wasn't aware that there is RRRecords, which in hindsight makes the name a little awkward. From today's view I think it sounds pretty goofy overall so if there ever will be new stuff it will be released under the NRRRRK moniker, which already used in the past.
Title: Re: Project NAMES?
Post by: piisti on November 14, 2022, 06:44:05 PM
Citalopram Shunyata!

I think Shunyata is from Śūnyatā (Sanskrit: शून्यता, romanized: śūnyatā; Pali: suññatā; English: /ʃuːnˈjɑː.tɑː/ shoon-YAH-tah), translated most often as emptiness, vacuity, and sometimes voidness.

Citalopram is mental health care pill manufacture. Some dopamine stabilisation I guess.

There is very good clang with that name. Some older Wisdom need to medicate in this time methods
Title: Re: Project NAMES?
Post by: anomalie on November 16, 2022, 05:51:12 AM
A proper name for a project is hard to come up with. At least for myself.

I like these quiet a lot:

Controlled Bleeding
Climax Denial
Narbenerde
Title: Re: Project NAMES?
Post by: Earth O.D. on November 16, 2022, 09:39:22 AM
I prefer effective names that somehow encompass or hint of a broader whole, vision and intent. Phonetics are a key factor here. Ambiguous ones with several possible meanings. Crazy/surreal/psychedelic combinations that juxtapose with themselves or with the other content. No need for examples really, there's already a lot of them mentioned here and easy to recognize.

Standard letter combinations of one's given name, number series or such don't do anything for me really unless there's something more behind it or exceptional phonetic value. JFK of course works 'cause there's a whole lot of mythical aura and past to it.
Title: Re: Project NAMES?
Post by: W.K. on November 16, 2022, 11:00:32 PM
Running out of ideas for new topics?

Christ.
Title: Re: Project NAMES?
Post by: FreakAnimalFinland on November 17, 2022, 08:36:24 PM
Good band names are not good topic?
People who actually listen and appreciate other peoples work, very frequently talk about this. At least my experience.  Am surprised it wouldn't be discussed more in public as it generally is utterly relevant to art people make.

Just today was listening new Noisextra episode where Phroq talked in length about how he decided to reject his name, and start to work under his given name. Recommended.
Title: Re: Project NAMES?
Post by: FreakAnimalFinland on November 17, 2022, 10:08:28 PM
To elaborate further...
I know "favorite band name", in surface level, may appear as question like in Women in Noise podcast a'la favorite icecream, what vegetable you prefer or such, eh eh... but it really is diffferent kind of question.

Some guys, who could call their work as "test drive of ____" (and synthesizer brand), probably won't get it. But no problem. They can do what they do, but noise for a lot of people is vastly different thing. It is almost existential question.

One example on great project names: I always worshipped CEMENT WOMEN. I heard track in mid 90's or so, and the name itself was such a great one. And sound. What the hell was that? Turns out comp track was pulled out of 80's Japanese tape, for 90's German comp CD.
Still 20 years later, I would talk to guy from other side of the world, just to find out he ALSO worships CEMENT WOMEN, first and foremost the name, but also the sound! And having no idea who it is, when and where it was made. Things you can find out these days very easily. Back in the 90's vastly different. These days, I feel almost cautios to mention it, as it feels it will leak out from obscurity to name posers drop when they want to talk about forgotten Japanese noise. Sure, when tape was made, I was little kid other side of world, but as a teenager merely hearing track and reading name had life altering quality.

The name, was perhaps born from same idea as sound, which sets something like CEMENT WOMEN, as artists who multiple guys around the world look up as bizarre anomaly among all irrelevant sound makers. While I know who and what Cement Women is, and occasionally feel tempted to contact about possibility of further reissue opportunities.... In other hand, that you got like few minutes accessible material and THE name, it may be enough.

More names.
Think of if Bizarre Uproar was called Strange Noise? Would not be even surprisingly from that part of scene that spawned projects like "Weird Vision"!
And actually, now as I mentioned it, I have this vague recollection that this name was invented by Eric Wood of MITB. I'd have to ask for it, but how I remember it, there was mr. Aunt Mary who had even more brutal noise made, and Eric Wood suggested name. And what a name that was! In theory, such a simple, but at the same time charmingly odd. Word Bizarre always having erotic undertone. Anyone familiar with vintage pornography, and as soon as word bizarre appear, you know it's worth it.

There is fairly recent cases, when Finnish artist contacted with material. And I told, yeah, material is really good, but I would never put out release from artist called ____.   Few days later, there is a new name. Better name.

Some artists may not think the name matters, and probably doesn't matter to them. Those guys, we probably don't have too many LP's or CD's in our shelves, appearing again and again on stereos.

Title: Re: Project NAMES?
Post by: MT on November 17, 2022, 10:29:19 PM
I can tell you as much that the very name idea before Unclean, was Morbid Pussy. Would be a great name for a noisecore band or so though! I think I sent out one demo with that name to PPT. He recommended a name, thus became Unclean.
Title: Re: Project NAMES?
Post by: PTM Jim on November 17, 2022, 11:47:57 PM
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on November 17, 2022, 10:08:28 PM
Some artists may not think the name matters, and probably doesn't matter to them. Those guys, we probably don't have too many LP's or CD's in our shelves, appearing again and again on stereos.

I can't imagine NOT caring about a band/project name. It's so unbelievably important. Goes for all music, but especially in noise/PE because the sound is already obscure; a name can say a lot.

I tend to prefer a single word that can be just perfect, especially when it can mean multiple things. Taint, Prurient, Grunt, Macronympha, Worth, Slogun, Sickness. I mean, there is a reason I chose DETERGE. It isn't just a random word.

But then there are just simply great names that have so much power and are a little phrase: Pain Jerk, Skin Crime,  Atrax Morgue, Murder Corporation, etc.

If you don't take the time to have a proper name, why should anyone give a fuck about you.
Title: Re: Project NAMES?
Post by: Skuggsidan on November 18, 2022, 12:10:48 AM
Answering to W.K: Without being too condescending, this post feels somewhat ill-conceived. The name of a project is the key to its existence both in the material world and on the metaphysical plane.

I never find it difficult to remember a project's band name because if you like the project, that name sticks. There was some criticism by Americans that Finnish project names are challenging to absorb; I would probably argue for the opposite. I think these 'weird' names offer a certain namelessness that is unique and appealing. It may be difficult to pronounce names like Gerogerigegege and Hanatarash on and off, but not difficult to memorize.

I have helped countless individuals come up with names for their projects, which shouldn't be necessary if you are genuine enough, I thought from the beginning. But sometimes you say what exactly this is, which is almost a science. Instead, this should be the equivalent of a trademark for a company; it permeates the thought, the drive, and the catalyst that exists in the project and beyond. It is the spirit that will permeate everything it produces. However, some projects might be zen, i.e. total nonsense that still says something. In that seem to be in total nihilism, there lies simultaneously in the essence of everything. There's a fine line between thoughtful, challenging, and sometimes humorous. So, a project's name is alpha and omega and probably the key to its success. In traditional societies, a person's name was an important thing, and a project in this way could be seen as a child that you need to raise and learn how to grow up.
Title: Re: Project NAMES?
Post by: Bloated Slutbag on November 18, 2022, 03:50:30 PM
A name communicates and doesn't communicate, in ways sound may communicate and not communicate.

At a noise show, the punchline of every first encounter is when project names are disclosed. Was witness to the time Shit met Kunt and the two obligatorily speculating on the wonderful music that might be made together, prospective project titles no less withstanding.
Title: Re: Project NAMES?
Post by: Bloated Slutbag on November 18, 2022, 04:00:11 PM
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on November 14, 2022, 09:31:34 AM
Quote from: Bloated Slutbag on November 13, 2022, 05:56:45 AM
Testicle Hazard has at least a few good ways of reading what might constitute the hazard, depending on the POV.

Haha! But also, thirdly, like many times in case of Mr. Keränen, the actual joke lies in finnish vs english translation. Kivesvaara being the place up north around where he was born at, and while vaara means "danger", it is also word for used for "forested hill", natural hill that is is formed from large rocks and at least 50 meters high. These appeared in scandinavia during iceage. Well, but besides that, Kivesvaara means kind of "rocky forested hill", the words also mean Kives = testicles, Vaara = danger/hazard.

Rock n roll?
Title: Re: Project NAMES?
Post by: Bloated Slutbag on November 18, 2022, 04:08:32 PM
Quote from: Bloated Slutbag on November 18, 2022, 04:00:11 PM
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on November 14, 2022, 09:31:34 AM
Quote from: Bloated Slutbag on November 13, 2022, 05:56:45 AM
Testicle Hazard has at least a few good ways of reading what might constitute the hazard, depending on the POV.

Haha! But also, thirdly, like many times in case of Mr. Keränen, the actual joke lies in finnish vs english translation. Kivesvaara being the place up north around where he was born at, and while vaara means "danger", it is also word for used for "forested hill", natural hill that is is formed from large rocks and at least 50 meters high. These appeared in scandinavia during iceage. Well, but besides that, Kivesvaara means kind of "rocky forested hill", the words also mean Kives = testicles, Vaara = danger/hazard.

Rock n roll?

But seriously, I always sorta thought they were riffing on Flying Testicle, and now you tell me those mothers were 50 meters high...
Title: Re: Project NAMES?
Post by: Bloated Slutbag on November 18, 2022, 04:11:00 PM
Quote from: Bloated Slutbag on November 18, 2022, 04:08:32 PM
Quote from: Bloated Slutbag on November 18, 2022, 04:00:11 PM
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on November 14, 2022, 09:31:34 AM
Quote from: Bloated Slutbag on November 13, 2022, 05:56:45 AM
Testicle Hazard has at least a few good ways of reading what might constitute the hazard, depending on the POV.

Haha! But also, thirdly, like many times in case of Mr. Keränen, the actual joke lies in finnish vs english translation. Kivesvaara being the place up north around where he was born at, and while vaara means "danger", it is also word for used for "forested hill", natural hill that is is formed from large rocks and at least 50 meters high. These appeared in scandinavia during iceage. Well, but besides that, Kivesvaara means kind of "rocky forested hill", the words also mean Kives = testicles, Vaara = danger/hazard.

Rock n roll?

But seriously, I always sorta thought they were riffing on Flying Testicle, and now you tell me those mothers were 50 meters high...

Once worked with this guy who said he would wake up in cold sweats with vague dream memories of 40-meter high monoliths of cheese bouncing around the landscape. Just wondering if Keränen shared the same dreamspace.
Title: Re: Project NAMES?
Post by: Skuggsidan on November 18, 2022, 08:58:27 PM
Quote from: Bloated Slutbag on November 18, 2022, 03:50:30 PM
A name communicates and doesn't communicate, in ways sound may communicate and not communicate.

At a noise show, the punchline of every first encounter is when project names are disclosed. Was witness to the time Shit met Kunt and the two obligatorily speculating on the wonderful music that might be made together, prospective project titles no less withstanding.

A good example: Satori.
Title: Re: Project NAMES?
Post by: burdizzo1 on November 18, 2022, 09:42:28 PM
Years ago, I always used to find the parody names of 'pop stars' vaguely amusing - of course, Smell & Quim, but also Masonna, Anus Presley, Wham-O... There seemed to be a whole rake of them in the '90s, but I can't remember them all now. So, not so good if I can't remember them...!

Cosmonauts Hail Satan always struck me as a good name.

And I named our dog after Dagda Mor, so I suppose I must've liked that one, too!

A good name should probably be no more than three words, and be relatively obscure for it to pique the interest. I know it's not noise, but the name Death In June always had me wondering... Nurse With Wound, as well.

Not at all keen on names that are acronyms.
Title: Re: Project NAMES?
Post by: W.K. on November 19, 2022, 06:28:58 PM
Quote from: Keruben on November 18, 2022, 12:10:48 AM
Answering to W.K: Without being too condescending, this post feels somewhat ill-conceived. The name of a project is the key to its existence both in the material world and on the metaphysical plane.

Yeah sorry, was in a bad mood, shouldn't have posted my post. Of course its totally a valid point to discuss, so I say: discuss on...

Although sometimes I feel like artists are painting themself to much in a corner by choosing a name that may sounds really cool early on, but then becoming limited by the aesthetics they can achieve or the imagery that is projected by that certain name. Sometimes it can be really good and on-point, but when you get older it also can feel juvenile and a bit wankery at times. Do we honestly need 50 project names that relate to death in any way? I think I prefer people's names now. More humble, not too much on-the-nose, it shows you are respecting your art rather than choosing a name because it's cool and you might be up for a something totally different from the last project, which can be either good or bad, but at least a surprise can be better than repeating the old.

Maybe I an just becoming an grumpy oldfart.

That said, I still hope someday does a P.E. project in the style of One Life Crew.
Title: Re: Project NAMES?
Post by: Manhog_84 on November 20, 2022, 06:24:12 PM
Not every band name has to be genius like Xenophobic Ejaculation, but some names are just badly chosen or too goofy. For example The New Boyfriends. No matter how great the noise would be, off-putting name doesn't make me want to buy their albums or even listen what kind of material they are releasing. Same goes for many projects listed in the first post. Terässinfonia compilations are great and work as a whole, but I probably wont get some of the artists own releases just because of the chosen name.
Title: Re: Project NAMES?
Post by: cr on November 20, 2022, 07:42:11 PM
Well, at least for me, The New Boyfriends is a great project name, which makes their noise even better (and also considering the acronym B. Slutbag already mentioned.) But then, I can also forgive a not so good name, if the noise is great.

From when I first heard/read about it, I thought Bizarre Uproar was one of the best and interesting and fitting project names I ever heard about.

I also really like Iron Fist of the Sun or Con-Dom.
Title: Re: Project NAMES?
Post by: cantle on November 21, 2022, 03:35:45 PM
I find that after a while the I say or think of the name only with reference to the band and its work rather than the meaning behind the name. It is only when saying the name out loud to someone unfamiliar with said band does the meaning reval itself once more....
Title: Re: Project NAMES?
Post by: Strangecross on February 15, 2024, 01:40:02 PM
My favorites have always been Stegm and Flatline Construct

I like the idea of a made up word. Flatline Construct seems to maybe have some academic origins, which seem to be fairly interesting but I also hope its is more of a stand alone concept.
Title: Re: Project NAMES?
Post by: Cranial Blast on February 21, 2024, 06:16:35 AM
Quote from: cr on November 20, 2022, 07:42:11 PMWell, at least for me, The New Boyfriends is a great project name, which makes their noise even better (and also considering the acronym B. Slutbag already mentioned.) But then, I can also forgive a not so good name, if the noise is great.

From when I first heard/read about it, I thought Bizarre Uproar was one of the best and interesting and fitting project names I ever heard about.

I also really like Iron Fist of the Sun or Con-Dom.

The New Boyfriends is a great name. It almost comes off as some goth rock/post punk type of a name, like your expecting something that sounds like a cross between Richard Meno and She Past Away or something of that nature haha, but instead you get totally bizarro maniac harsh noise! Definitely a great name indeed!
Title: Re: Project NAMES?
Post by: tiny_tove on February 21, 2024, 03:08:49 PM
I love names that relates to specific moment of history or geography or characters.
But I also love names that put togeter apparently unrelated things.

Current fave name: Mademoiselle Bistouri
it is both soft yet it cuts.
Title: Re: Project NAMES?
Post by: Cranial Blast on February 21, 2024, 03:45:36 PM
Quote from: tiny_tove on February 21, 2024, 03:08:49 PMI love names that relates to specific moment of history or geography or characters.
But I also love names that put togeter apparently unrelated things.

Current fave name: Mademoiselle Bistouri
it is both soft yet it cuts.


I 100% agree, Mademoiselle Bistouri is great and precisely as you describe. Also your own project Caligula031 is a brilliant name too, while on the topic, which has historical reference to Roman sadist mixed in with modern time decadence and specific "place" 031, Como Italy.
Title: Re: Project NAMES?
Post by: tiny_tove on February 21, 2024, 05:59:10 PM
Quote from: Cranial Blast on February 21, 2024, 03:45:36 PM
Quote from: tiny_tove on February 21, 2024, 03:08:49 PMI love names that relates to specific moment of history or geography or characters.
But I also love names that put togeter apparently unrelated things.

Current fave name: Mademoiselle Bistouri
it is both soft yet it cuts.


I 100% agree, Mademoiselle Bistouri is great and precisely as you describe. Also your own project Caligula031 is a brilliant name too, while on the topic, which has historical reference to Roman sadist mixed in with modern time decadence and specific "place" 031, Como Italy.

thanks, fun thing, if you walk around Milan there are many walls covered of 031, it's not written by my homies but but a Latino pandilla/crime gang
Title: Re: Project NAMES?
Post by: Thermophile on February 22, 2024, 12:36:25 AM
Some that I like:

Nurse With Wound
Evil Moisture
Das Synthetische Mischgewebe
Esplendor Geometrico
Sewer Election
Vagina Dentata Organ
Cicciolina Holocaust


I hate when people use their birth name as their project name, so unimaginative and a bit narcissistic?

Also interesting to notice how some artists in electronic/techno scene don't care about creating a particular identity through a fixed project name. They release music under a myriad aliases, some utterly ridiculous. Richard Kirk, Uwe Schmidt, Richard James etc, just to name a few.
Title: Re: Project NAMES?
Post by: FreakAnimalFinland on February 22, 2024, 09:21:04 AM
I have been talking with some artists who started to use their own name that. Main reasons seemed to be not being able to stick to band name. Changing it multiple times and then deciding that own name is something who they are, and it's not like they'd going to change that.
Other reason often seems to be, that you started some kind of project in your teenage years and project name is something when you are in your 40's and tell someone you do this project "Putrid Assgrinder"... it feels just weird. So being somewhat legit & credible sound artist may seem good option.  I reject that idea. I'd rather always see "band name" than artist birth name.
Title: Re: Project NAMES?
Post by: Commander15 on February 22, 2024, 10:06:01 AM
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on February 22, 2024, 09:21:04 AMI have been talking with some artists who started to use their own name that. Main reasons seemed to be not being able to stick to band name. Changing it multiple times and then deciding that own name is something who they are, and it's not like they'd going to change that.
Other reason often seems to be, that you started some kind of project in your teenage years and project name is something when you are in your 40's and tell someone you do this project "Putrid Assgrinder"... it feels just weird. So being somewhat legit & credible sound artist may seem good option.  I reject that idea. I'd rather always see "band name" than artist birth name.

I don't know if it's just me and my brain, but i really struggle to remember artists that operate with their birth name. For example i've always had problems of remembering the names of jazz and free impro artists, as they usually operate under their own names and there shitloads of jazz artists out there. Not so much with the band names, they just seem to stick in my mind better. Maybe there is some symbolic and ideomatic values in play with band names that enable them to stick better?
Title: Re: Project NAMES?
Post by: host body on February 24, 2024, 12:58:39 PM
I like vaguely futuristic and oddball names, like Merzbow is just brilliant. Japanese artists in general have the best names. Flatline Construct yeah, great name. Sshe Retina Stimulants, love it. I don't like vile for the sake of being vile, or just generic names.