Today was listening "Hotel Ultra" CD, and in its utterly weird and senseless content, it inspired to remind anyone who has not fully understood the divine qualities of this Japanese cult band, to check out essential things:
(Topic work in progress... will be updated.)
Gerogerigegege Cass, C30
ZSF Produkt 1985
Senzuri Champion LP
Vis A Vis Audio Arts 1987
Showa LP
Vis A Vis Audio Arts 1988
Man and woman moaning, while gratifying themself. Fanfare in beginning and end. No noise, nothing beyond sex fest. I recall it was said to be just sex tape sold in porn shops pressed to LP ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sLyHSTNUe4&feature=related
Sexual Behavior In The Human Male CD/ 7"
Transrecords (2) 1988
moaning, talking, masturbation. 7" and re-issue later on CD with bonus.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y22cX33XHLw
Live At Tokyo Gay Center
(Acetate, 7", S/Sided, Shape, Ltd, Red)
Vis A Vis Audio Arts 1989
Simple shitty noise. I guess for reason it was meant as object, not listening record.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qd_Ee-YagTY
All My Best To You, With Love Juntaro (7")
Stomach Ache Records 1990
Japanese music on both sides. I guess Juntaro sent tapes of Jap music to label and they pressed it as Gerogerigege 7"..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UTOcrA_NaE
Tokyo Anal Dynamite CD
Vis A Vis Audio Arts 1990
Free form punk noise, band line-up. Disorganized and chaotic "noisecore" type. Each song title announced and chaos starts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYaRV6EwI3U
Absolute Butt Fuck A-Go-Go (2xCD, Ltd)
RRRecords 1991
Just two Vis A Vis titles re-packaged as 100 copies double CD (senzuri power up + live greatest hits)
Live Greatest Hits CD
Vis A Vis Audio Arts 1991
One of very earliest experienced I had with Gerogerigege. This particular song was something so beyond anything what I had heard pressed on CD at the time. Stupid drum machine beat and Gero-P masturbating himself. Not for the weak!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50-I3eSL9uw
Senzuri Power Up (CD)
Vis A Vis Audio Arts 1991
In my opinion the absolute best Gerogerigegege release of all times! Not to mention how "Story of Thabala" (see link) is more brutal than majority of bands such as SJ or Ramleh did. Short CD and style varies in each song. From pure feedback/noise to band line-up. But always intense as fuck.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9V8BG5yPyhI
45RPM Performance CD
Dark Vinyl Records 1992
Turntable noise can be good or bad, and even in case of Gerogerigegege, you could expect it to be just about anything, 45rpm performance is actually harsh, yet well done noise album! Actually sounds more "serious" than most of Gero stuff.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CH0ryISu3oI
More Shit E.P
Baby Huey 1992
First side is more like regular punk rock recording and b-side goes closer to Tokyo Anal Dynamite style, but with rock drummer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFNUFVNGoxM
Ai-Jin (Flexi, 7", S/Sided)
Vis A Vis Audio Arts 1992
Japanese nostalgic pop tune with Juntaro adding karaoke style vocals with distortion. Single pretty impossible to find, but published on compilations.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UmGDeZZLRs
Senzuri Monkey Metal Action (7")
Psycho Mania Records 1992
This great UK noisecore/grind label did a lot of great releases which probably very few remember anymore? This Gerogerigege 7" is perhaps not their absolute best, but guitar feedback is so piercing, such sickness is rarely achieved!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siIlFW0CBcg
Night 7"
Ant-Zen 1993
If you like sound of lubed masturbation/cock-massage, I guess this very limited 7" is worth hunting for. Can't be many of such releases in the world?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHwpcXznGxk
Mother Fellatio 7"
A.I.P.R. 1993
When you listen this 7", you know where Nihilist Commando ripped off basically beginning of its every release, hah! Noisecore rarely gets more brutal than this. Just utterly fierce and utterly goofy. I used to do this noisecore project back in 90's called "Violent Sibelius" which was even more to this style. Probably should check if recordings would need to be heard by more people..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wby8z_RpVCw
Yellow Trash Bazooka 7"
SOA Records 1993
Perfect companion to Mother Fellatio! Trash noisecore nonsense at its best.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXZ21s71kDU
Kitanomaru Hyakkei (7")
Monellaphone Cassettes 1993
After such a brutal noisecore 7"s, this graverobbin' of some old mid 80's recordings in style of Senzuri Champion noisecore or Tokyo Anal Dynamite, but with boombox recording quality didn't hit as hard - but nevertheless good ep!
Zero Song Flexi (Flexi, Ltd)
Vis A Vis Audio Arts 1993
Seen online slightly different looking versions, but my own copy comes 100% sure from Juntaro, so it puts little value to anti-flexi cut out of regular transparent film and put in 7" covers, hah..
Nothing To Hear / Nothing To...1985 CD
Noise 1993
complete CD found in link. 1985 stuff is the style of his first tape on Merzbows label. Brutal harsh noise with no mercy!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ljPBuQ2d-k
William Bennett Is My Dick 7"
Stomach Ache Records 1993
Stomach Ache and Gerogerigege? It promises utter retardom and it delivers!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMF7y6aEZJs
Instruments Disorder (170 Songs CD) CD, Album
Mediacapsule 1994
One cd length session of brutal noisecore. I originally thought sound of snare drum (ringing) made this little weak compared to Morther Fellatio and Yellow Trash Bazooka, but still merciless noise chaos!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iolm6O6cxqA&feature=relmfu
Endless Humiliation (CD)
Japan Overseas 1994
1994 CD's of Gerogerigegege were always a surprise. Couldn't know what was coming. Interview with homeless man combined with Juntaros piano improvisations?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neefUpmTOM0
Hotel Ultra CD
Kubitsuri Tapes, 1994
Sound-collage, spoken word, tiny noises. Fluxus art? Who knows. Just beyond words.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cm9HVsZEzpQ&feature=relmfu
Life Documents 7"
Fourth Dimension Records 1994
Beatbox version of the Live Greatest Hits?? And the caveman sex grunts over music. Beyond words.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffsTjkbpoxk
Senzuri Fight Back (7", EP)
Hachimitsu, Turbine Industries 1994
All You Need Is Audio Shock 7"
Regurgitated Semen Records 1995
Bass noise version following the noisecore style of Gerogerigege. Lazy, rumbling, not so wild and aggressive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iD_LQiv9wE&feature=related
Wreck Of Rock'N'Roll 'Former Self 7"
A.I.P.R. 1995
Quite close to Kitanomaru Hyakkei session sound, but little more modern. Chaotic noisecore with slow drums.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vm8WNfIj6xw
Veel Plezier! 7",
Meeuw Muzak 1995
7" which at the time of release, seemed to me like worthless piece of shit, but turned out to be pretty genius piece of wax. Juntaro's childhood recordings of reel-to-reel recorder. Daily sounds of japanese household, I guess. No artistic input here.
No Sound (7")
Vinyl Communications 1995
Large reverb effect absorbs everything into distant and splashing effect. Simple, but very effective release!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhQhQMUPAR0
Mort Douce Live ◄ (3 versions)
Sound Factory 1996
Gerogerigegege, The / Origami Erotika - Seven Inches Of Meat 7"
Jazzassin Records, KomKol Autoprod 1996
Sex noise dance. Think of life documents 7" in disco.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLOkXsR_s0o&feature=related
Gerogerigegege, The / Bastard Noise - Ramones / New Toy For Children (7", Gre)
Vis A Vis Audio Arts, Not On Label (Bastard Noise Self-released) 1996
More ramo rock sounding recording from Gerogerigegege. Among their most useless. Sample is short, but gives you the idea. But worth getting for BN side, of course!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRf4G3I2b8I
Yasukuni Jinja 7"
Membrum Debile Propaganda 1996
Fierce experimental noise recorded already back in 1990. High pitched and flat, but at the same time charming! I prefer this over a lot more "brutal" stuff.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgMfTDxxH9o
Gerogerigegege, The / Pyosalpinx - Split (7", Ltd)
Scrotum Records 1997
Later days noise started to somehow lack the enthusiasm, or was it just me? I remember it was good, but nothing that special.
None Friendly (CD, Album, Dig)
Mink Records, Mink Records 1999
One of my least favorite Gerogerigegege albums, simply because it is so normal. Ultra minimal drone, where basically slow oscillations / slow flanger movement of sound makes all the variation that disc has. Clean and neat drone.
Hell Driver (CD, Ltd)
Dirter Promotions 1999
It has some noise in it too, mostly high pitched and not so brutal. But mainly the lo-fi piano improvisations of Juntaro. In my opinion very good stuff.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLqZFO0e-A0
Early Dream Exit (7")
View Beyond Records, Napalmed 2000
Compilation of various sessions collected into one 7", where style varies greatly. From experimental to free-music/noisecore style, but most often humming ambience.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7kuG7F2P8Y
Saturday Night Big Cock Salaryman (CD, EP)
Full Volume Agency, Full Volume Agency 2001
It doesn't sound as useless as I thought in 2001... Juntaro and two Mamarracho guys doing perhaps digital and "modern" version of famous gero style. It doesn't have the same edge and fierceness, but still actually pretty intense.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVLkYwCztHk
Gerogerigegege, The / Masonna - Split (Acetate, 7")
Coquette
?? who knows what ??
compilations
Singles 1985-1993 CD
Work In Progress, Work In Progress 1994
Very nice way to get several 7"s at the same time. Sadly, obviously, long out of print.
Recollections Of Primary Masturbation (338 Songs CD) CD
Onkel Tuka Records 1998
Perhaps better of the compilation, collecting some of the same, but also various weird pieces to one CD, focusing on his noisecore type output.
Based on what I've have heard, I've never understood anyone's interest in Gero. Some of the ideas sound sort of interesting but nothing I'd want to pay for.
i agree, seems like people will pay out the nose for utter nonsense and fuck all attitude. clearly popular or the releases wouldn't be so damn expensive.
that being said, i do own tokyo anal dynamite. makes me laugh every time i spin it.
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on April 01, 2012, 09:27:49 PM
anyone who has not fully understood
Made me laugh a little -
nobody understands this stuff, not even Juntaro - that's why it's great Dada art. The nearest equivalent making records to my mind is Vagina Dentata Organ - both have an intense and surprisingly sincere cracked art-damaged vision, and neither really have anything to do with noise/industrial, they just got lumped in with that stuff.
Endless Humiliation is a favorite Gero release here.
Well, what do we ever REALLY fully understand?
Of course it meant more in lines of if you merely experienced lets say 0-3 Gero releases, as opposed to vast majority, there is less chances to see what makes it special.
If you only hear his absolute best noise works (like: Senzuri Power-up, Mother Fellatio, Nothing to hear....) or his most horrid sound anti-art (like: Showa, Night, Endless Humiliation), they both may work out, yet doesn't reveal why band would be such a target of worship.
I recall Juntaro did associate himself with noise, saying Gero is the biggest japanese noise band, where Tokyo Anal Dynamite was supposed to sell.. was it 3000 or 5000 CD's ? And his label did the noise releases (at least in wide sense: Ramleh, Mauthausen Orchestra, Haters, SBOTHI,..).
I personally think it is noise band, just in times when noise was not all about distortion and heavy walls, but noise could be simply opposed to music. If in common language, noise means most of all "unwanted sounds", I believe Gerogerigege fits that category much more than a lot of noise which is wanted & desired sounds, HAH!
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on April 02, 2012, 08:56:06 AM
If in common language, noise means most of all "unwanted sounds", I believe Gerogerigege fits that category much more than a lot of noise which is wanted & desired sounds, HAH!
Indisputable!
Last thing I heard about Juntaro (he was in touch with quite a few people I know) was that around 2005 he entered a 'sleep clinic' for rest, no-one has heard from him since. Sadly he may be languishing in the psychiatric system, hopefully that isn't the case and he got out and simply decided to quit the project.
Probably The Gerogerigegege is the only band i'm really completely obsessed with. I can't explain why but i always find Juntaro's sounds and aesthetics perfect. When you record a guy wanking over silly midi christmas tunes, what more can you do? And what about stealing cover designs from some random synth pop band for years?
Personal favorites: Endless Humiliation, Mother Fellatio, None Friendly, Live Greatest Hits.
Wasn't the Stomach Ache stuff actually not "made" by Juntaro? Or maybe i'm mixing it up with the RRRecycled tape.
I don't think you can intellectualize appreciation or interest in TGGGGG. Even explanations of why you find yourself enjoying or appreciating it ends up being an exercise in dada. I don't think it is a "get it vs. don't get it" situation, either. It's more primal, more elementary than that. It's "like it vs. don't like it", and being unaffected by it is as good as not liking it.
Quote from: tisbor on April 02, 2012, 08:46:22 PM
I can't explain why but i always find Juntaro's sounds and aesthetics perfect. When you record a guy wanking over silly midi christmas tunes, what more can you do?
I have the same impressions. I like his unusal mood where primitive sexual feelings, lust are mixed with many noises and pop or rock music / icons of mainstream culture. No doubt this is one of the most important and unique noise industrial projects ever. I wonder what happened to Tetsuya Endoh (vel Gero 30), very important member (maybe not in making music but in performance actions) and Juntaro's (boy?)friend... any info?
discovered him with Yellow Trash Bazooka, released by Italian hardcore/grind label Scream of Anger, of my friend Paolo Petralia.
everybody was getting that 7" as some sort of weird fun, I really enjoyed it and once I got to know more about his sexual content I became obsessed and still am... My dream would be to see him live.
The stuff about the sex club really made my day
QuoteMy dream would be to see him live.
Yes!
Marco: let's put up a Gerogerigegege cover band
I remember one album that came in either a Ramones sleeve or a sleeve with Hirohito on it. I don't know the title but I loved the tracks when I heard them.
It is "Showa" LP.
Like Silvum, Gero is an (if not the) all time favorite here. So much of their work is absolutely genius though my personal favorite is definitely Yasukuni Jinja 7". Roaring bassy synth on A and obnoxious screech on B with piercing shrieks from Juntaro = doesn't get any better. 10 minutes of prime Gero material. Other releases I have a major weakness for are Senzuri Power Up (which combines pretty much everything, from fairly straight forward HN to senzuri scum 'n roll to groove out fuck rock to hypnotic drones (the NSG tape with more material in this vein is of course genius!); Instruments Disorder (ultimate 1-2-3-4 record for me, and inlay/booklet is total classic: 170 SONGS!!FUCK HEAD!! cracks me up like nothing else); Live Greatest Hits (rattling drum computer, wank sounds, occasional shrieks, very haunting release and so fucking intense and ultimately exhilirating). Frankly there is little that does not do much for me (some exceptions are Showa, despite its great concept, and Sexual Behaviour), as every release manages to create its own little universe in which it only exists and listening it is exclusively momentarily living it (some additional examples here would be releases like Hell Driver, Hotel Ultra, Endless Humiliation and Early Dream Exit). Yes there's certain 'strands' in Gerography but even then there is no samishness, no worn concepts, only genuine fuckhole scumbag sound rape. Nothing like Gero. Ever. Again.
@overview in first post, is Veel Plezier! not a composition of soap opera recordings (is what it always sounded like to me)? I have no info on it really so that was just my guess... Regardless it is an absolutely FANTASTIC release...
I recall reading it is recordings Juntaro made as child on reel-to-reel. Therefore, it has just the sounds of living room or something - I assume TV or radio on background?
Ah, cool. I hadn't read of its origins so it was almost just a guess. Artnotart says this btw:
QuoteWeird record, just a recording of a japanese radioshow, with a guy and a girl talking with some easy listening in the background, the only word I can make any sense of is "onanie".
Can't find much else, would be interesting though...
For what it's worth by the way, a while ago I made a semi-complete personal rank list of Gero releases including brief descriptions for #s 1-15 (still need to do the rest). I'll include it for the heck of it.
Quote1. Yasukuni Jinja
Inanely sick vox over roaring buzz saw crunch and searing screech, respectively. PE getting butt-raped by Gero, loving it (obviously).
2. Senzuri Power Up
The definitive document of everything Gero. Cock-rocking tunes, Ronald McDonald jizzing all over party boys. Finishes up with what is actually a nice and thick Nihilist Surfin' Group drone.
3. Live Greatest Hits
Drum computer gone mad, cock-stroking. Fascinatingly intriguing, also a good listen and something to slow dance to. Hello, Suicide; re: 23 Minutes over Brussels.
4. Instruments Disorder
Ultimate wansusreefour platter y/y. Bury me deep; six feet under beneath the weight of Tatsuya Yoshida and sound vomit.
5. All You Need Is Audio Shock
Thick bass rumbling. Noisecore done right(er); YTB is a sissy. Dem nosiecore need teh bass.
6. Mother Fellatio
Where does my end insanity. Coarse and ungallant Juntaro initiates TS mom.
7. Endless Humiliation
Drunken rambles and distant piano improv; brooding anti-jazz for the jaded.
8. Self-Titled
ZSF Produkt knew where it was at; primitive proto-Gero, hot bod loop-de-loop.
9. Nihilist Surfin' Group - Music for the New Yorker
Beach boy spasm band plays the Thalaba variations; thick lube drone.
10. Senzuri Champion
Finger stickin' good pedal peddling - The Shape of Senzuri to Cum.
11. Veel Plezier!
War of the Unintelligible Japanese Soap Operas. Lots of plezier/how can it even.
12. Saturday Night Big Cock Salaryman
On the outside looking in; voyeuristic nihilistic granddad senzuri on happy meds.
13. Nothing to Hear/Nothing to... 1985
At the end of my harsh noise; the god, king, princes, etc. of harsh noise look on, bewildered, "how do this blistered sound batter our head to extremity!!", drop dead. Juntaro claims V-I-C-T-O-L-Y.
14. Kitanomaru Hyakkei
Sipping a jus de vomit in Rue d'Urine.
15. Early Dream Exit
Crackle creeping through the cracks at the edges of night; time loop crunches into perpetual twilight scored by grainy screeching.
16. Tokyo Anal Dynamite
17. Hotel Ultra
18. Yellow Trash Bazooka
19. No Sound
20. Night
21. Recollections of Primary Masturbation
22. Singles 1985-1993
23. Senzuri Fight Back
24. None Friendly
25. Split w/ Bastard Noise
26. Wreck of Rock 'n Roll Former Self
27. More Shit E.P.
28. Hell Driver
29. Mort Douce Live
30. 45RPM Performance
31. Senzuri Monkey Metal Action
32. All My Best to You, With Love, Juntaro
33. William Bennett Is My Dick
34. Split w/ CSMD
35. Recycled Music
36. Sexual Behaviour in the Human Male
37. Showa
ah yes, another all-time favorite:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlvxhcrmkC8
one of my favourite 'bands' (!) ever.
my first introduction was the 'more shit' and 'senzuri monkey metal action' 7"s whenever they were released in the early 90s and i was instantly hooked and it was the start of my own obsession with them. both of those records contain their noisecore punk stuff. 'more shit' and the 'dead tech vol II' comp lp contain a cover version of the old japanese punk band LSD. check out the original version here :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPf7Bee681E
i agree that 'senzuri power up' is one of their best releases - even though all early recordings, it still contains a good mixture of most of their different styles, and there're on top form on every track basically. i usually always recommend this album as an introduction to anyone who has not heard them before.
the 'singles 1985-1993' CD doesn't contain any of their 7" records - it collects some comp tracks, different versions of a couple of previously released tracks, and some previously unreleased stuff too (all from juntaro's famous cassette shelf no doubt!). like 'senzuri power up', it's contains alot of their different styles, mostly all on top form, and is another good introduction to the band.
i'm not sure if the 'live at tokyo gay center' 7" and comp track are one of the same. i've always wanted to get confirmation, but i don't know anyone who owns or has heard the 7". i have only ever seen one copy of the 7" offered for sale - on ebay some years ago - the auction is archived on popsike.
'yasukuni jinja' 7" and 'her names on my cock' comp track certainly sound like there're from the same recording session to my ears. both are great and amongst my fave ggggg stuff. i'd have loved to have heard more of this PE style from juntaro.
i'm sure 'veel plezier!' 7" is just part of some japanese radio show. i no longer have the original record to check, but i'm sure the booklet names exactly what. i remember it's quite a big booklet with alot of text. i guess the closest you could compare this record to is some parts of 'hotel ultra' cd.
there's an 'artist edition' of several records, usually just with a slightly different handmade cover by juntaro (for instance, 'life documents' 7" had a photo of a young boy put on the front cover), but the split 7" with origami erotika became a completely different record altogether - 'gay sex can be aids' - different title, different artwork, different booklet, different everything, ltd 50 - the only thing that remained the same was the record itself.
both the 'all my best to you, love juntaro' 7" on stomach ache and the RRRecycled cassette actually contain cambodian pop music! juntaro had nothing to do with either, but i commend the insight and sense of humour of the label's for releasing them. the other stomach ache 7" 'william bennett is my dick' (another one of my favourites) apparently contains what was a nihilist surfin' group recording originally. by the way, does anyone have the 'dutch omanko' cassette released on nihilistic recordings? if so, i'd love to hear it.
http://www.discogs.com/Nihilist-Surfin-Group-Dutch-Omanko/release/1944751
i believe a label that has released stuff by the ggggg previously has plans to release the 'live demo' on cd at some point - it's one of those cassettes ltd 5 copies only, or something - along with 'some other stuff that has not been on cd'. they were going to try and get in touch with juntaro to ask permission first to which i said 'good luck!', and that i thought they should just go ahead with it anyway.
i really fucking miss new releases by the ggggg. as i'm sure most of you know, the last release was the 'saturday night...' CDEP back in 2001. i always used to love to see there was a new ggggg record out and would order it straight away eagerly awaiting delivery! one thing is for certain - you never ever knew what you were going to get! (unless you had previously read a description of the record, of course)
lastly, what is it with some people starting to call 7"s "albums" these days?! i've seen it a few places now, mainly on messageboards, blogs, etc.
Gianfranco from Final Muzik recently sold a lot of gero's records, he still has this:
http://www.discogs.com/seller/Final-Muzik?q=gerogerigegege&btn=Search&st=
yes it's a bootleg compilation
Now Juntaro is back. So lets keep fingers crossed for some official re-issues (or new stuff?!?) of The Gerogerigegege.
I recall I talked about this compilation LP in other topics, but it's very good bootleg. Nice cover, pretty nice selection of songs, although obviously hardly anything what die-hard Gero collectors wouldn't have...
He's back? Fuck. It would definitely be time for some reissues! And new stuff, fingers crossed.
!!!!!!!!!
I'd love to hear new Gerogerigegege material.
Back, meaning he's been in contact with some of artists he was supposed to release back in 90's on Vis'a'vis and now returning masters etc. I don't have any further info to confirm, but that it IS him and he's reachable.
I hope that when vultures start to approach, he managed to avoid all sorts of stupid CDR deals and ultra limited offers etc and go for something what reflects the bands cult status.
Great news! I put on Yellow Trash Bazooka just before logging on - coincidence? Well... yeah... most certainly. But WTF, let's have some new stuff!
That's cool! nice.
DEE DEE GERO surfaced recently with loads of youtube vids of him playing rock n roll songs in his flat plus showing you his collection of guitars/shoes etc. I got in touch and asked if Juntaro etc were still alive and he said yes, hard to get any more info out of him though. Agree that new stuff would be amazing, but I hope even more archive info, sounds and video emerge.
!!!! amazing news!
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on September 01, 2013, 08:58:51 PM
I hope that when vultures start to approach, he managed to avoid all sorts of stupid CDR deals and ultra limited offers etc and go for something what reflects the bands cult status.
I hope he just starts youtube posting as prolifically as DEEDEEGERO
absolutely great news juntaro has suddenly reappeared, and mikko is correct about the circumstances in that he has emailed a few members of bands about returning their master tapes. i always had a feeling (and as a big fan, just really hoped!) he'd surface again eventually, and it's just over 10 years since he went 'missing' now. the main rumour was that he'd been hospitalised (and before anyone assumes, it wasn't necessarily a mental hospital!). a friend in japan said he'd fallen out with quite a few people, so maybe that had something to do with it, but who knows? maybe he'll reveal all in a new gero interview? (mikko - you've got to try and interview him for special interests!)
there's no doubt in my mind there's alot more great unreleased gero recordings on juntaro's famous cassette shelf, and hopefully something else of them will now be released, but as mikko said, released properly, and not just some limited to 50 copies cd-r. the same for any reissues (there's clearly some titles that need to be reissued!). however, i suspect there'd still be some ultra limited releases amongst them because if there was one or two thousand well distributed copies made of every new gero release, it just wouldn't be gero would it! though to say the least, their cult status and general popularity has grown considerably (loads!) in the last 10 years, so juntaro would be in the right mind to take full advantage of it, if he even realises this.
as for brand new recordings, it's obviously too early too say, juntaro could just disappear again straight away, or he may not have any desire to reactivate gero to that extent, if at all, but if he does, i reckon he could still pull it off, though let's face it, he could release literally anything as gero (like he used to do sometimes anyway!) and it'd still pass! i miss the days of mailorder lists through the post seeing there was a new gero release out and miss listening to them for the very first time really not knowing what to expect at all! (unless i'd read a review or something first).
let's just wait and see what, if anything, happens. i won't get my hopes up too much considering all, but here's hoping for a new era of the gerogerigegege!
gero56 will be close to 80 years old now and juntaro had already said in an interview that he'd been ill and in hospital, so i'm curious to know if he is still alive, though if there's any new gero recordings made it's safe to assume gero56 will not feature on them.
all my best to juntaro, with love, michael.
I agree that he could release any kind of sound as Gerogerigegege and most of us would love it regardless. I hope he does!
Quote
all my best to juntaro, with love, Nicola.
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on September 01, 2013, 10:20:30 AM
Now Juntaro is back.
holy shit!
-- all my best to juntaro, with love, dave.
Cannot belive Juntaro is back! Is it definitely him? I mean, MB returned some years ago which has done wonders for reissue labels but many questioned whether it was him or just someone with access to is old tapes. Sincerely hope it results in him unearthing some stuff from the 90s, my favourite "noise" band ever.
Quote from: AWWFN on September 04, 2013, 10:26:30 PM
MB returned some years ago which has done wonders for reissue labels but many questioned whether it was him or just someone with access to is old tapes
I never heard of that particular body double conspiracy theory. I know at least one person who knew about MB's religious conversion before he returned to music had promised to keep it quiet on MB's request.
Juntaro used to telephone my now deceased friend in the early '00s, outsider punk musician Fes Parker, late at night all the way from Japan to enquire about the availability of CD-Rs and T-shirts. Fes was happy about this but also slightly bemused as he had no idea who Juntaro was (not being a noise fan), or why this person was so fascinated when his work had been ignored by so many in the UK.
I tried to track him down for years and got nowhere (maybe disappeared/last heard from him around 2002 after the last EP?), heard lots of similar tales of him annoying people into releasing a Gero 7"/trading with them etc. I'm glad since the dawn of the net loads more people are into the band, though I think aside from maybe the noisecore stuff most people are more interested than the idea of Gero than the actual "band" itself. Which, paradoxically, seems to be kind of the intention from the start!
al - yep, it's apparently definitely him. you're right, the last time anyone heard from him, that i know of, was about 2002. i exchanged a few emails with him myself around that time too (there was an email address on the 'saturday night...' cd). i didn't get much sense out of him to be honest, his emails mainly consisted of trying to sell me handmade artwork versions (that he'd make especially) of cds i already had for triple the price or whatever.
that MDP 7" apparently WAS pressed - 33 copies or something - and it was going to come in 'very special packaging'. indeed, it was always listed as 'released soon' or whatever on their website, and i must've emailed the label guy about 5 or 6 times asking 'when?' but he always just replied with 'as soon as possible, we are still making the packaging' or whatever, but he definitely said the records had been pressed (i think it even said on the website too). then one day the website suddenly went offline and the label guy's email address didn't work anymore. i heard he owed quite a few people (mainly from other labels) money, so maybe that had something to do with it? who knows what happened to those records though. maybe they are just sitting in a box in his house, or god forbid he just threw them out wanting a clean break from 'the scene'. say he just gave them away to friends or whatever surely word about or a picture or something of at least one copy would've turned up somewhere by now?
remind me what 'ultimate psycho trash' is or was meant to be again. the title rings a bell.
If this does signal a return and/or a slew of reissues I'd find it very difficult to imagine he would go down the 'crappy cdr' route that some folk here are forecasting. I'm sure he is very aware of the way his output is looked at today and I doubt very much that he wouldn't use this in some way to his advantage rather than self sabotaging the potential for $$$ and hysteria by working with any old label that asks.
What I like most about this is that there is literally nothing he could hypothetically release that would be bad or disappointing. Except maybe some super hi-tech cut up, proficient noise?!
I'm not sure there's a market out there for more than 500 copies of any noise release is there?
Have to say though doing a real high-quality set of reissues of Gero gear would be the ultimate, I'd prob just give up the label at that...job done.
well if this tweet is anything to go by - not a great translation though - this guy was talking to juntaro on the phone and there'll be a new gero album, and wheather that is live album or live performance, i don't know yet - waiting for word of what it says. the beast 666/777was666 guy posted this over at maniacs only forum.
google translate :
"Yes phone from Yamanouchi net Taro of Gerogerigegege. Reported to do this year, the completion of the new album at all, and live. The large cooperation personally, but do not release someone? Do not spear throat big thing?"
(http://i.eho.st/pj3348j6.jpg)
i hoped it said there'd be a live performance too but i didn't want to get ahead of myself hoping. this is crazy great news!
Quote from: AWWFN on September 05, 2013, 04:19:23 PM
I'm not sure there's a market out there for more than 500 copies of any noise release is there?
Have to say though doing a real high-quality set of reissues of Gero gear would be the ultimate, I'd prob just give up the label at that...job done.
It's hard to say. This has a lot to do with saturation of market and results lack of retailer commitments, etc.
Still, good and exceptional album, what is not part of the monthly routine, often keeps selling for year after year.
As example GRUNT latest album has passed 500+ despite being less than 2 year old album. Is it pure "noise"? Maybe not, but hardly has appeal beyond the noise scene and most definitely doesn't have distribution beyond noise scene (except in Finland).
Gerogerigegege is entirely different thing. It's not just a band, it's cult. Legend acknowledged by old and new noiseheads and way beyond. While vast majority of noise bands have no business outside the core of noise scene, well done Gerogerigegege CD (reissues for example), would have potential to end up in shelves of shops, indie mailorders, punk/grind distros, etc etc.
Therefore I hope if someone has possibility to do reissues, it wouldn't be hundred euro price tag collectors vinyl box-sets, not extortionist priced "japan imports", not inkjet printed CDR's, pixelated bad graphics, etc. But follow the original feel of Vis'aVis. Professional, big editions, available for large audience what is still hungry for Gero. It is not difficult to do. It would be all about just doing normal job. Not fucking up and not overkill with attempts to flirt handful of wealthier collectors.
someone else said it seems message says he's looking for label for the album and organiser for the concert.
re. album. hey al - it's your big chance! haha! seriously try emailing him on that vis a vis email address on 'saturday night...', if it doesn't work i'll try to get his new email address.
Quote from: AWWFN on September 04, 2013, 10:26:30 PM
Cannot belive Juntaro is back! Is it definitely him? I mean, MB returned some years ago which has done wonders for reissue labels but many questioned whether it was him or just someone with access to is old tapes.
why should not be Maurizio?
When he came back lots of people questioned whether it was him or not. Having been in close contact for several years now I'm convinced but definitely loads of people were sceptical at the time.
Re:Gero; completely in agreement with Mikko on quality of reissues etc. That said, most Gero CDs aren't that hard to get, are they? A cohesive 7" compilation would be fantastic I think. In honesty there aren't many occasions when I crack out the "Night" 7 for example but would be nice as part of a bigger collection.
Quote from: AWWFN on September 19, 2013, 06:51:21 PM
That said, most Gero CDs aren't that hard to get, are they? A cohesive 7" compilation would be fantastic I think. In honesty there aren't many occasions when I crack out the "Night" 7 for example but would be nice as part of a bigger collection.
Not cheaply, there's usually some up on discogs but usually for typically daft prices. I'd snap up an official reissue of
any Gero. Agreed a "7 compilation would be particularly ace though.
I agree it would be excellent to have a compilation of 7"es. I have quite a few, but I would spin them sooner if I had them on a single compilation. That said, there is a bootleg compilation CDr that has Audio Shock, Mother Fellatio, YTB, Night and Senzuri Monkey Metal Action, which combines a few in this fashion. Picked it up a while ago.
Also, yes, it's usually the CDs that fetch the crazier prices and which have become generally harder to come by. There's a couple of vinyl releases that you generally will have to pay out the ass for (Senzuri Champion, of course, but also some 7"es like Yasukuni Jinja), but other than that you can pick up most vinyl for pretty cheap. It's discs like Tokyo Anal Dynamite and Instruments Disorder that are usually pretty expensive.
It'd be cool to have a compilation of 7"es, and additionally some fancy reissues of all the albums. I would love to get good, official copies of the few things I'm missing. Also, it would be really great if there could be a compilation of sorts that featured tracks from comps or rare/one-off tapes. For that last category, I'm thinking of sought-after gems like Piano River, Public Environment, the live demo, and the split with Masonna, though for some of these it will probably be hard to get a hand on the source material at all - even if someone had the intention of reissuing this sort of stuff, it would still be a difficult task. Still, that would be the dream though.
(http://s.pixogs.com/image/R-4195023-1358193142-5607.jpeg)
does anybody know anything about this cd-r (ltd.75) released in japan last year?
http://www.discogs.com/Gerogerigegege-Masturbation-Rarities/release/4195023
1 Kaa Chan 0:51
2 Kiss Shite Hoshii 0:19
3 Linda Linda 0:25
4 Cunter King In Shimokitazawa 1:52
5 Naandeka 0:27
6 Houkei To Kasei Houkei No Chigai 2:17
7 Ippatsuyarite 1:31
8 Kame No Mae Wa Akagai 2:59
9 Isshokusokuhatsu (Gauze No Mane) 0:36
10 Ensam I Natt (Live) 1:51
the discogs listing says the last 3 tracks are unreleased, but i don't think i recognise any of those titles at all! (apart from 'ensam i natt')
the rate your music listing has this comment :
"i don't really know if this is legit or not, but it IS really good. gero folk punk? weird a capella takes? yeah, this is important stuff."
google translation of this shop's description (http://www.art-into-life.com/product/2994) doesn't help as usual, but seems to say it collects unreleased live recordings from the earliest era when juntaro was still using the name shitake for his label and not vis a vis, and that the recordings were obtained from a good source?
"Punk fork unit that was working secretly in parallel with Gerogeri from shiitake label era Yamanouchi Mr. ran to VIS A VIS previously (cover of Leathern Nun) unpublished live sound and competent source, a Hard to Find, plus the sound of Mr. endowment, compilation album that highlights their approach of noise other than the Gerogeri. Limited edition of 75."
sample :
http://a-i-l.ciao.jp/MASTURBATIONRARITIES.mp3
that sample isn't much to go on, but to be honest, it sounds pretty dubious and possibily not even genuine to me, so i don't know what to think at all now! any other info would be appreciated. i think i know of at least one person here who has it, so if they see this, please post something! or if someone wants to pay that bargain (!) asking price for the copy for sale on discogs?
yes - an official properly done collection of 7"s and/or comp tracks would of course be amazing too! so let's hope juntaro still has all the master tapes for most if not everything on his famous cassette shelf for any/all reissues to be as good as they possibly can be.
some of you may have seen the following extremely limited over-priced cd-r that collects a number of the 7"s for sale on ebay, and i don't want to waste many words on it, but simply put, this is clearly a perfect example of the sort of shitty limited cd-r 'reissue' juntaro should totally avoid!
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GEROGERIGEGEGE-CD-Singles-Collection-Rarities-Collection-Ltd-33-New-/221279116757?clk_rvr_id=523536899299&toolid=10013&customid=&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fitm%2FGEROGERIGEGEGE-CD-Singles-Collection-Rarities-Collection-Ltd-33-New-%2F221279116757
lastly, after posting approx 1,365,493 youtube videos playing his guitar at home, dee dee gero has now took his 'solo act' to the stage!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_Cch052Qk4&feature=youtu.be
I have owned a copy, but I sold it again. It's a decent disc, but I didn't feel it was worth holding on to. It's definitely not an official release, in any case. With regards to the 'unreleased tracks', from what I recall that information was actually listed in the booklet. I added the original entry to Discogs, and all the info I added I culled from the booklet (there's a small picture on the Discogs page where you can see the back of the booklet, where this info is listed). Also, if I'm correct, the first few tracks were actually originally recorded (and released?) under a different name, though I couldn't tell you what the name used actually was. Otherwise, judging from the info I've gathered, it seems that the material is genuine and that it may originally (though not recently) have been obtained from Juntaro. I have a rip of the disc, btw, so if you're interested to hear it just drop me a PM.
ok, i've just heard that 'masturbation rarities' disc and to be honest i don't think it's genuine gero. it's obviously being made out to be though, but i'd put money on it that it isn't.
Well just hearing that clip sounds pretty obviously like a few looped sections of some prior gero recording...possibly with a bit of reverb added if the sound isn't on the original recording? Of course, could have been done by Juntaro himself but I'm sure anyone of us could replicate more or less the same thing in 5 mins. Still, could be the rest of the recording is different sounding I guess.
i've just put 'Masturbation Rarities' online. check it out!
http://www.mediafire.com/?45nysex81xeaoen
info, tracklist, etc :
http://www.discogs.com/Gerogerigegege-Masturbation-Rarities/release/4195023
i'm interested to hear what other people make of it. personally, i think it's rather dubious and i'm convinced it's not genuine. none of this sounds like juntaro at all (apart from the clearly sampled '1234' track, which is suspect in itself). 'ensam i natt' vocals doesn't even sound like juntaro. any solid info would be appreciated. the insert says some of the material was recorded under another name in japanese letters (and some of it was previously released?!). does anybody have an idea what name it says? maybe that'll explain something? it could possibly be gero related in a way yet to figure out, but i'm sure this is not the gerogerigegege.
has anyone heard any further news on juntaro? if so, please post! grab hold of your cock for the second coming of The Gerogerigegege!!!!!
has 'The Gero-P' cassette ever made it online? if not, i'll add it to my 'to do' list.
http://www.discogs.com/Gerogerigegege-Gero-P-The/release/842228
here's some stuff from the japanese mag Fool's Mate which i don't recall ever seeing online :
report & pics of 'Al-Jin' flexi burning/performance (from Fool's Mate #84)
(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e288/blackoperations/geroal-jinfoolsmate84_zpsbb7d1049.jpg)
interview & Juntaro pics (from Fool's Mate #78)
(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e288/blackoperations/gerofoolsmate78_zpsecd3de18.jpg)
(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e288/blackoperations/gerofoolsmate78a_zpsec443ce1.jpg)
(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e288/blackoperations/gerofoolsmate78b_zps3f5dcbb3.jpg)
Well, the latest titbit regarding their reunion appears to be this recent photo to have emerged on Twitter:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BhPMXLQCIAAcy33.jpg)
The translation runs something like this:
'Party yesterday, had been dating, is Mr. Yamanouchi The gerogerigegege. He also is preparing a new product.'
Typically baffling and really just minor stuff but worth a post for fanatics I guess?!
!!!!!!!
that's juntaro?? he looks pissed
Genius!!!
Wow!
thanks alot for posting! nice to see juntaro! have you got a link to the actual twiiter page it was posted on too? also, does anybody know who the guy on the right is? i don't.
Quote from: blackoperations on February 28, 2014, 06:48:41 AM
thanks alot for posting! nice to see juntaro! have you got a link to the actual twiiter page it was posted on too? also, does anybody know who the guy on the right is? i don't.
This one here: https://twitter.com/aqua9803
Mainly good for food pics...
Quote from: blackoperations on February 28, 2014, 06:48:41 AMalso, does anybody know who the guy on the right is? i don't.
Just learned from a post on Maniacs Only that it's Hironari Iwata (Toukaseibunshi, Haijinsha)
Quote from: blackoperations on October 28, 2013, 06:23:44 PM
i've just put 'Masturbation Rarities' online. check it out!
http://www.mediafire.com/?45nysex81xeaoen
info, tracklist, etc :
http://www.discogs.com/Gerogerigegege-Masturbation-Rarities/release/4195023
this is a fake/bootleg, made by a certain japanese label, has nothing to do with juntaro.
a gerogerigegege singles compilation cd as well as other reissues will come on vis-a-vis
new material will be released by another label.
Quote from: WCrap on March 12, 2014, 02:07:21 PMa gerogerigegege singles compilation cd will come on vis-a-vis
new material will be released by another label.
woow!! where do you know this from?
i thought that 'masturbation rarities' was fake from the first time i heard it!
thanks for info of reissues.
I'll just quote others and type:
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Beautiful shot of Gero30 I've never seen before just showed up on Twitter recently:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BsllyHRCAAAdM5X.jpg)
yep - never seen that picture before. maybe it's from a magazine or something? here's another which the twitter guy put up a couple of months ago.
(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e288/blackoperations/juntarovasiliskgrimjpg_zpsc5dffda6.jpg)
L-R : VASILISK > GRIM > the twitter guy (forgot his name!) > JUNTARO
If anyone is still looking for a copy of the "Senzuri Fight Back" 7", or just looking for a cheap introduction to the band, the label owner who released this record is selling copies from his remaining stock (he still has 150 remaining) on Ebay for $2.50 each, plus shipping.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Gerogerigegege-Senzuri-Fight-Back-7-33-rpm-EP-BLASTING-JAPANESE-NOISE-/191297738359?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item2c8a3bd677
thanks for that.
I was able to get my hands on an original Showa LP with the ramones sleeve. very happy about it.
Quote from: CMSFoundation on August 24, 2014, 04:55:58 AM
If anyone is still looking for a copy of the "Senzuri Fight Back" 7", or just looking for a cheap introduction to the band, the label owner who released this record is selling copies from his remaining stock (he still has 150 remaining) on Ebay for $2.50 each, plus shipping.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Gerogerigegege-Senzuri-Fight-Back-7-33-rpm-EP-BLASTING-JAPANESE-NOISE-/191297738359?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item2c8a3bd677
Shipping to Europe is US $34.75 though... wtf
Quote from: urall on August 27, 2014, 08:02:41 PM
Quote from: CMSFoundation on August 24, 2014, 04:55:58 AM
If anyone is still looking for a copy of the "Senzuri Fight Back" 7", or just looking for a cheap introduction to the band, the label owner who released this record is selling copies from his remaining stock (he still has 150 remaining) on Ebay for $2.50 each, plus shipping.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Gerogerigegege-Senzuri-Fight-Back-7-33-rpm-EP-BLASTING-JAPANESE-NOISE-/191297738359?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item2c8a3bd677
Shipping to Europe is US $34.75 though... wtf
Exactly what kept me from getting one.
Quote from: urall on August 27, 2014, 08:02:41 PM
Quote from: CMSFoundation on August 24, 2014, 04:55:58 AM
If anyone is still looking for a copy of the "Senzuri Fight Back" 7", or just looking for a cheap introduction to the band, the label owner who released this record is selling copies from his remaining stock (he still has 150 remaining) on Ebay for $2.50 each, plus shipping.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Gerogerigegege-Senzuri-Fight-Back-7-33-rpm-EP-BLASTING-JAPANESE-NOISE-/191297738359?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item2c8a3bd677
Shipping to Europe is US $34.75 though... wtf
Fuck America!!!
Quote from: Dr Alex on August 27, 2014, 08:43:01 PM
Quote from: urall on August 27, 2014, 08:02:41 PM
Quote from: CMSFoundation on August 24, 2014, 04:55:58 AM
If anyone is still looking for a copy of the "Senzuri Fight Back" 7", or just looking for a cheap introduction to the band, the label owner who released this record is selling copies from his remaining stock (he still has 150 remaining) on Ebay for $2.50 each, plus shipping.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Gerogerigegege-Senzuri-Fight-Back-7-33-rpm-EP-BLASTING-JAPANESE-NOISE-/191297738359?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item2c8a3bd677
Shipping to Europe is US $34.75 though... wtf
Fuck America!!!
Might want to write to the seller to confirm that he means that. I just checked it against the USPS website, and even imagining the heaviest possible 7" (8 oz), that's still only $12 to most Euro countries via first class international. He either entered something wrong and doesn't realize it, or he priced shipping absurdly high because he didn't want to go through the process of sending $2.50 records internationally. Hopefully not the latter (especially now that you can do so much of the process online...no more dicking around with filling out customs forms in line), but who knows.
Oh, I see...he's charging for Priority Flat Rate Box. You might want to see if he's willing to do First Class International Rate, just to make sure.
I picked up some copies of that to distro a few years ago, from that same guy. Was very fair on price and shipping, would definitely recommend dropping him a message to query the listed price for shipping to EU.
yeah, years ago I bought like.. 30 or 50 or was it even 100 copies bulk lots he was selling? Very reasonable price. Took looong time to sell.
Via twitter user @dharmasong today
'Today, one of the best news is seen within the GEROGERIGEGEGE core pure mountain Taro will return to the stage next month , although he came to China the opportunity to show very small.'
That is indeed one of the best news
Juntaro definitely recently played onstage with GRIM in Tokyo, though is apparently planning on doing Gero live again too. if so, who knows, maybe he could even make it out of Japan eh?
this just announced at http://www.steinklang.at/shop/ in upcoming releases for late 2014/early 2015 :
SK91
THE NEW BLOCKADERS / THE GEROGERIGEGEGE - Art Is Over
split LP lim.150
split LP + collaboration 10" box lim.100
Quote from: blackoperations on November 01, 2014, 07:35:42 AM
Juntaro definitely recently played onstage with GRIM in Tokyo, though is apparently planning on doing Gero live again too. if so, who knows, maybe he could even make it out of Japan eh?
Any details on what happened here?
Quote from: blackoperations on November 01, 2014, 07:35:42 AM
THE NEW BLOCKADERS / THE GEROGERIGEGEGE - Art Is Over
yeah lets see how this one turns out...
And if it ever gets delivered :D
Quote from: blackoperations on August 04, 2014, 08:57:15 PM
yep - never seen that picture before. maybe it's from a magazine or something? here's another which the twitter guy put up a couple of months ago.
(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e288/blackoperations/juntarovasiliskgrimjpg_zpsc5dffda6.jpg)
L-R : VASILISK > GRIM > the twitter guy (forgot his name!) > JUNTARO
isn't that Hevi from Corrupted?
Quote from: blackoperations on October 28, 2013, 11:30:10 AM
ok, i've just heard that 'masturbation rarities' disc and to be honest i don't think it's genuine gero. it's obviously being made out to be though, but i'd put money on it that it isn't.
I have asked my friend in Japan, here's the answer:
no,it's Juntaro works!!
it was originally relesed as Mr.Yourou,this is collaboration unit w/Juntaro's tutor.
and I asked Juntaro about that when I meet him!!
he said "that is bootleg,but guy who released that ask me and I permit,of course get money"songs are from
V.A. called "Champion Carnival",now, you might be interested in this:
http://www.discogs.com/The-Gerogerigegege-Masturbation-Rarities/release/7916666
Is Gero 30 dead?
Just recently ordered Masturbation Rarities 7" lathe. Fake or not... I don't care. My Gero collecting came to a point where such 'secondary' things don't matter anymore (especially when the price ain't too high).
Speaking of... This mispress must be the most hilarius "Gero release":
http://www.discogs.com/Gerogerigegege-Yellow-Trash-Bazooka/release/2993299
Mispressing is every now and then fun, but what did they press on that vinyl... it's even more hilarius: X Gasmask X ep which itself is just Napalm Death on 45. Adding insult to injury, my pressing has a-side label glued so off-the-centre it ends to a scratchy needle destroying loop. Beyond music, beyond entertainment, plain and pure conceptual art.
From the Lust Vessel newsletter:
"Dear comrades and supporters,
We are so excited to announce that brand new full-length album from THE GEROGERIGEGEGE will be finally released on ESKIMO RECORDS pretty soon.
We have just started to taking pre-order via Lust Vessel Distribution; we are the OFFICIAL distributor for this product.
For pre-ordering, please write to lustvesseldistro@gmail.com along with your name and actual shipping address.
The product will start to ship from the official release date, 20th April 2016.
_____________
THE GEROGERIGEGEGE "Moenai Hai" CD (Eskimo Records)
First ever official full-length album in over 16 years from this legendary Japanese project The Gerogerigegege, founded by Juntaro Yamanouchi in 1985, will be released on 20th April via Eskimo Records run by Jun Konagaya well know as a mastermind of Grim and a founding member of White Hospital and also Howling Of Himalaya.
Strictly limited to 500 copies only.
More details and official description should be announced later; all the info for this release including images of artworks will be updated on our LVD blog.
LVD blog: http://lustvesseldistribution.blogspot.jp
retail price: 2500 JPY plus shipping cost
No Trades for this product.
NB 1 (shipping): This item is still in the manufacturing stages and is available for pre-order only. We plan to ship pre-ordered copies the official release date; but please be aware that shipping dates are liable to change at any time at the manufacturer's discretion - we will post the new shipping date if any such changes come into effect.
NB 2 (payment): No need to make the payment in pre-ordering stage. It would be good for us to know your request with actual quantities for preparing each package in advance with the best shipping cost and fastest shipping. We accept the payment via PayPal once the products are actually available and ship orders once we confirm the payment."
Quote from: Eloy on March 11, 2016, 11:12:53 AM
Jun Konagaya well know as a mastermind of Grim and a founding member of White Hospital and also Howling Of Himalaya.
A bit off topic, but. I know of the existence of exactly one Howling Of Himalaya track. Were there others?
Great news in any case.
Incredible news! Also
QuoteEvery pre-ordered copy via Lust Vessel Distribution comes with an exclusive bonus cassette, contains a rare track from early cassette material from The Gerogerigege, selected by Juntaro Yamanouchi himself and manufactured by Lily Vice (Lust Vessel) !
http://lustvesseldistribution.blogspot.co.uk/2016/03/the-gerogerigegege-cd-on-eskimo-records.html
!!!!!!!
Quote from: Cementimental on March 15, 2016, 01:38:54 PM
Incredible news! Also
QuoteEvery pre-ordered copy via Lust Vessel Distribution comes with an exclusive bonus cassette, contains a rare track from early cassette material from The Gerogerigege, selected by Juntaro Yamanouchi himself and manufactured by Lily Vice (Lust Vessel) !
http://lustvesseldistribution.blogspot.co.uk/2016/03/the-gerogerigegege-cd-on-eskimo-records.html
!!!!!!!
I'm not a big fan of pre-order deals, but I have to say that I'm pretty excited for this.
just reposting this ...
***START***
After several requests, you can now order a very limited reissue of The Gerogerigegege 'Piano/River' (released 1995 - 10 copies only!) and 'The Gero-P' (released 1985 - never reissued!) cassettes. All audio and artwork included in full.
The cassettes cost GBP 7.50 each plus postage.
GBP 4.00 UK
GBP 6.00 EUROPE
GBP 7.00 REST OF WORLD
Paypal to : kshort@ntlworld.com
Front cover artworks :
http://s14.postimg.org/h7knrs7oh/gero_pr_gp.jpg
Please feel free to forward this info to anyone who you think will be interested.
Thankyou!
***END***
don't let juntaro see this ...
yeah, you are probably right ... it's not me doing it though, i'm just reposting, as said
The same person who sells those tapes also posted:
"also, as the release date will be announced soon, if you would like to pre-order The Gerogerigegege/The New Blockaders split LP i can now accept it as i am involved with the release and will have both standard and special edition (handmade artwork, etc ltd 50 max) copies available. price standard GBP 30.00 / special GBP 75.00. both include postage worldwide."
anybody ordered / received those tapes or can confirm this guy is reliable at least?
I emailed him and he never responded.
Quote from: sterilization on March 23, 2016, 05:31:11 PM
I emailed him and he never responded.
Okay, so he finally responded. I asked two very simple questions. He ignored both of them. Hesitant to order now. If he can't properly acknowledge inqueries, he likely cannot properly bootleg a cassette.
Got this yesterday
https://www.discogs.com/The-Gerogerigegege-Compilation-Tracks-Vol-1/release/8158871 (https://www.discogs.com/The-Gerogerigegege-Compilation-Tracks-Vol-1/release/8158871)
Surprisingly good looking bootleg tape and it is nice to have Gero compilation tracks collected into one release (though I suspect there could be more compilation tracks from Gero than just these), or are they collected somewhere already?
Quote from: Marko-V on March 30, 2016, 03:34:43 PM
Got this yesterday
https://www.discogs.com/The-Gerogerigegege-Compilation-Tracks-Vol-1/release/8158871 (https://www.discogs.com/The-Gerogerigegege-Compilation-Tracks-Vol-1/release/8158871)
Surprisingly good looking bootleg tape and it is nice to have Gero compilation tracks collected into one release (though I suspect there could be more compilation tracks from Gero than just these), or are they collected somewhere already?
where did you get this from, please?
Quote from: radokaz on March 30, 2016, 04:00:47 PM
Quote from: Marko-V on March 30, 2016, 03:34:43 PM
Got this yesterday
https://www.discogs.com/The-Gerogerigegege-Compilation-Tracks-Vol-1/release/8158871 (https://www.discogs.com/The-Gerogerigegege-Compilation-Tracks-Vol-1/release/8158871)
Surprisingly good looking bootleg tape and it is nice to have Gero compilation tracks collected into one release (though I suspect there could be more compilation tracks from Gero than just these), or are they collected somewhere already?
where did you get this from, please?
Interested as well!
Quote from: Euro Trash Bazooka on March 31, 2016, 10:16:35 PM
Quote from: radokaz on March 30, 2016, 04:00:47 PM
Quote from: Marko-V on March 30, 2016, 03:34:43 PM
Got this yesterday
https://www.discogs.com/The-Gerogerigegege-Compilation-Tracks-Vol-1/release/8158871 (https://www.discogs.com/The-Gerogerigegege-Compilation-Tracks-Vol-1/release/8158871)
Surprisingly good looking bootleg tape and it is nice to have Gero compilation tracks collected into one release (though I suspect there could be more compilation tracks from Gero than just these), or are they collected somewhere already?
where did you get this from, please?
Interested as well!
I ordered it from a discogs seller nicknamed cosgrove. I believe he had only one copy for sale.
The seller contacted me and told me that he have more copies for sale. So contact him via discogs @
https://www.discogs.com/user/cosgrove
or via his email moineauecarlate(at)gmail.com
Track from the new album. shoegaze~
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZGNTx6SrrE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZGNTx6SrrE)
It sounds like a noisier Coaltar of The Deepers song.
Quote from: Eastern Embargo on April 25, 2016, 02:34:25 AM
Track from the new album. shoegaze~
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZGNTx6SrrE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZGNTx6SrrE)
I never like anything from this project but this is amazing!! Reminds me of one and only album of Cowards. Awesome!!
Quote from: Dr Alex on April 25, 2016, 09:41:19 PM
Quote from: Eastern Embargo on April 25, 2016, 02:34:25 AM
Track from the new album. shoegaze~
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZGNTx6SrrE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZGNTx6SrrE)
I never like anything from this project but this is amazing!! Reminds me of one and only album of Cowards. Awesome!!
Reminds me also of the South Korean metal outfit Pyha.
Just had the first listen of the new Gero album. It is certainly true that you never know what to expect from Juntaro & co. but still this surprised me somehow because of being such an 'easy' record. Lots of silence and quiet ambience. I understand completely if some die-hard geronoise fan feels disappointed with this album ("not enough noise, not enough 1-2-3-4-noisecore, not enough masturbatory panting") but I find it quite charming in a way. Tracks 3 & 4 are so quiet, you feel like turning volume up but at the same time keeping first-time listener on his toes just waiting for that full blast noise attack to come out of nowhere without a warning. Well, at a second listen you know better.
I was lucky enough to get the extra "1985 Unreleased Recording" -tape as a pre-order bonus gift. 'Recorded and performed by Juntaro Yamanouchi in Showa 60 (1985)', says the insert. 8½ minutes of full-blast seriously fucked-up low fidelity noise. Funny thing, B-side is A-side reversed. At first I thought there's something wrong with the tape or my deck because there's so many audio drop-outs, but it seems that they have been on the original material because the drop-outs are on the b-side at same places.
Received my copy and bonus tape today, so happy :) if slightly disappointed that it wasn't trollishly removed from noise scene expectations, I was half expecting a trap remix album or something
Well, I finally got time to check out Moenai Hai. I was quite pleased to be able to get a sense of it before listening from some of the comments here and many ring true.
It begins with a track that sees wee Junty flexing his electro acoustic muscles for about 1 second as recording of a kid laughing is cut out into a bit of reverb before kicking into the bulk of the piece. Here, wee Junty insists in the inlay this is is NOT a field recording but it absolutely fucking is. Or is at least heavily built around one. It sounds like (hopefully) him on a train causing trouble and it is great. Probably the most interesting piece to listen to on the record. Then it kicks horribly into that shoegaze style jam which most of us may have heard on youtube. Yep, it's a shock in terms of the sudden volume and the style but after a little while it feels absolutely like a Gero tuneful guitar jam a la some of the later Vis A Vis discs with that lad on guitar who has the youtube channel of all his clothes. Things get very close to sublime when somebody starts to do a bit of noisy soloing. Perfect noise guitar/slightly tonal wailing and at this point any doubt that Gero might not have delivered with this record is erased. It sounds like total shit and goes on for far too long which further cements this point and then we get a quiet number which, despite sounding a bit too modern dark ambient ends up nodding quite heavily (in my mind) to the None Friendly approach of ultra repetitive swells and textures which also go on for way too long. It's very nice to listen to. These are all tracks sound new and...up to date(?) while still holding enough technical or aesthetic similarities to older works to make sense as Gero songs.
But this is Gerogerigegege, and given that this album is the first to be issued after the mythology and legend of the band had truly set in (older listeners will have to confirm or refute this - I got into them just a bit too late to have known what it was like to deal with them as new releases came out) it forces you to ask some of the tougher questions:
what did I expect from this? Nothing.
why am I slightly sad not to have heard anyone masturbating or shouting 1234? because I am only human
why do I even listen to this in the first place? I hope never to find out
would I care about this if I listened without knowing it to be them? probably not
Is Gero a band which is really relevant today? Thankfully it seems so.
whatever the answers, this album stands up proudly because it has been put together in exactly the same way as the rest of their work: collaged chunks of sound baring no relation to one another besides whatever personal importance or sense of reason the creator has for throwing them together. Always a 50/50 chance of it being damn near unlistenable and half the time the more sonically interesting records are still full of dodgy shit, but still you need and want to experience it all, to the point where the audio content is almost unimportant.
Because of this, it is tempting to rewrite the art of Gerogerigegege as having been a carefully arranged attack of totally unpredictable releases aimed at leaving the listener scratching their head but this is the kind of genius which, like all the best art and music really, is only achieved through the singular creativity of someone who just does whatever the fuck they want and probably never thinks much about how it all fits together. Sure, on an aesthetic level you can be a bit disappointed in the quality or selection or type of pieces wee Junty has put on this disc, but was this ever a band that delivered what you wanted? How often do you reach for 'Saturday Night Big Cock Salaryman' over something like 'Yellow Trash Bazooka' or 'Nothing To Hear, Nothing To...' when you're after a satisfying listening experience? Similarly, how often do you go for a 3,0000 track noisecore 7" when you for some reason feel like listening to the Japanese national anthem or somebody taking a shit?
The true beauty of this stuff will always lie within the wholeness of its body of work and the way it constantly evades full understanding, categorisation or easily repeatable, contained experiences. Moenai-Hai is an album which slots perfectly into this body of work for all those reasons. Wee Junty has managed to make something that, rather than being stifled by all those years away, has managed to somehow work them in.
I also listened to the tape that came with it and it's as fine a piece of mucky, pervy noise as Gero have ever put out. Really, really short and I think they probably could have done better than to have just reversed the track on side B but whatever. I only hope that this hints at some sort of posh cd issue of similar unreleased works.
In short, I loved both of these and don't want to listen to either again for a long time.
QuoteIn short, I loved both of these and don't want to listen to either again for a long time.
:D
+ excellent review
Anyone know anything about the disk union exclusive bonus cd-r called "voracious" that came with the new album?
Quote from: SILVUM on May 06, 2016, 01:33:54 AM
Also, never seen anyone suggest this, but isn't "Sexual Behavior In The Human Male" a joking S.B.O.T.H.I. (Swimming Behavior Of The Human Infant) reference.
Good call. I never thought of that, and it seems better than probable.
Quote from: sterilization on May 10, 2016, 06:36:52 PM
Anyone know anything about the disk union exclusive bonus cd-r called "voracious" that came with the new album?
only Disk Union distribute this bonus CDr and it includes only that 1song from the s/t tape.
(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k157/radokaz/geroCDr.jpg)
So I assume that guy selling the bootleg Piano River tapes was a scammer? That guy wanted me to send him $31usd to his address.
I consider myself rather huge Gero fan. I'm not totally obsessive over it. I have almost everything, but at this point, not anymore obsessed to spend XXXX usd to get debut LP or Showa, what I have as CDR copies anyways. Also something has changed in atmosphere, that I don't either feel so obsessed to "collect" to-be-rarities put out just for sake of it. However, while something such as announced TNB/Gerogerigege limited split vinyl seems dubious, I must say I had to get the CD+tape of Gerogerigegege, hehe...
CD is decent. It's very hard to value Gero works simply on their musical merits. As well as it would be useless to do so. If I heard that seemingly good two-tone distorted shoegaze tracks elsewhere, I would most likely conclude that I have heard sooooooooooooo much of distorted atmospheric shoegaze in various context. Be it "post-doom", "post-black metal", raw "black metal", whatever... Different graphics and this could be sold as next Swedish "black metal masterpiece" since Hypotermia... hah... But add totally unexpected nature, combination with minimalist ambient tracks, unexpected graphics and it's goes well to roller-coaster known as Gerogerigegege discography.
Quote from: a_2_g_2 on May 11, 2016, 06:15:26 PM
So I assume that guy selling the bootleg Piano River tapes was a scammer? That guy wanted me to send him $31usd to his address.
Even though I REALLY wanted to buy those two from him, I had a bad feeling after he took FOREVER to reply to my inquiries and when he finally did, he ignored all of my questions and instead tried to press me to hurry up and send him way too much money for some bootlegs.
Shame if he actually did rip some people off..... He claimed that he was co-releasing the upcoming Gerogerigegege/TNB lp.
Quote from: sterilization on May 12, 2016, 01:42:44 PM
Shame if he actually did rip some people off..... He claimed that he was co-releasing the upcoming Gerogerigegege/TNB lp.
i ordered them. i thought the posting style seemed familiar but only copped why after sending the payment. i don't really want to say who i think is behind them (strong clue in the upcoming lp claim though) but if my suspicions are correct, i've no doubt i'll receive the tapes eventually, although probably not for another two years! anyway, latest update i got was that there's a delay with the gero-p tape but things are expected to be back on track soon (i'll take the "soon" with a heap of salt though).
nothing really to add to the moenai hai comments here. i suppose i was surprised by how solid a release it is. under normal circmstances, i'd probably be a little ambivalent towards the bm/shoegaze track and run a mile from the dark ambient-ish one but they seem to somehow work here. it did prompt me to question whether they were getting a free pass for obvious reasons but i don't think so, they do seem to work for me on their own merits (or maybe i'm just fooling myself by thinking i could be in any way objective about this). no such questions regarding the rest of the album though, totally sublime.
Quote from: SILVUM on May 06, 2016, 01:33:54 AM
Also, never seen anyone suggest this, but isn't "Sexual Behavior In The Human Male" a joking S.B.O.T.H.I. (Swimming Behavior Of The Human Infant) reference.
ha, i can't believe i never copped that!
p.s. tenuously related: black (english m.o.r. singer who "inspired" artwork series of sexual behavior in the human male, senzuri power up, etc) died in a car crash in my home city just after last xmas. it was so weird to hear wonderful life all over local radio for about a week after and be instantly reminded of juntaro and the absurdity of the artwork connection.
Quote from: ddmurph on May 16, 2016, 05:25:25 AM
Quote from: sterilization on May 12, 2016, 01:42:44 PM
Shame if he actually did rip some people off..... He claimed that he was co-releasing the upcoming Gerogerigegege/TNB lp.
i ordered them. i thought the posting style seemed familiar but only copped why after sending the payment. i don't really want to say who i think is behind them (strong clue in the upcoming lp claim though) but if my suspicions are correct, i've no doubt i'll receive the tapes eventually, although probably not for another two years! anyway, latest update i got was that there's a delay with the gero-p tape but things are expected to be back on track soon (i'll take the "soon" with a heap of salt though).
Quote from: SILVUM on May 06, 2016, 01:33:54 AM
Also, never seen anyone suggest this, but isn't "Sexual Behavior In The Human Male" a joking S.B.O.T.H.I. (Swimming Behavior Of The Human Infant) reference.
I ordered the tapes too. Last message from him was that issues should be solved by now and the tapes should be ready for shipping this/next week. Let's see.
"Swimming behavior" and "Sexual behavior" are both actual studies (latter being a part of famous Kinsey report) so I tend to believe the names originate from there or at least Juntaro noticed the similarity of the names, title really fits Gero even without the S.B.O.T.H.I. connection.
Quote from: Marko-V on May 16, 2016, 10:44:45 AM
Quote from: ddmurph on May 16, 2016, 05:25:25 AM
Quote from: sterilization on May 12, 2016, 01:42:44 PM
Shame if he actually did rip some people off..... He claimed that he was co-releasing the upcoming Gerogerigegege/TNB lp.
i ordered them. i thought the posting style seemed familiar but only copped why after sending the payment. i don't really want to say who i think is behind them (strong clue in the upcoming lp claim though) but if my suspicions are correct, i've no doubt i'll receive the tapes eventually, although probably not for another two years! anyway, latest update i got was that there's a delay with the gero-p tape but things are expected to be back on track soon (i'll take the "soon" with a heap of salt though).
Quote from: SILVUM on May 06, 2016, 01:33:54 AM
Also, never seen anyone suggest this, but isn't "Sexual Behavior In The Human Male" a joking S.B.O.T.H.I. (Swimming Behavior Of The Human Infant) reference.
I ordered the tapes too. Last message from him was that issues should be solved by now and the tapes should be ready for shipping this/next week. Let's see.
"Swimming behavior" and "Sexual behavior" are both actual studies (latter being a part of famous Kinsey report) so I tend to believe the names originate from there or at least Juntaro noticed the similarity of the names, title really fits Gero even without the S.B.O.T.H.I. connection.
Further connected by the fact that Juntaro released a S.B.O.T.H.I. LP on his Vis a Vis label. Clearly a fan!
https://www.discogs.com/SBOTHI-Can-The-Sound-Change-The-Change-Can-Sound/release/705513
And now these two appeared:
https://www.discogs.com/The-Gerogerigegege-Senzuri-Fist-Fuck-Volume-1/release/8606293
https://www.discogs.com/The-Gerogerigegege-Senzuri-Fist-Fuck-Volume-2/release/8606322
Them being lathe cuts I seriously doubt I will pay 22 euros a piece for these. Why not release them both together as a real vinyl on one 12-inch?
My first experience was with "live greatest hits" from 1991 for me that drum machine and Gero were really interesting but in the other hand hilarious, but from the all of those i absolutely adore "all you need is audio shock (side A)" for me just briliant
I heard Gero once when I was pretty young and looking for the weirdest Japanese oddities, but don't recall much of anything except the sounds of guys masturbating. Checked out the some tracks off the Moenai Hai CD, and I like what I'm hearing. Beats the "spinoff-black metal-shoegaze-lite" bullshit FreakAnimal mentioned by a mile, but I certainly don't hear many Whitehouse/Ramleh comparisons (fucking Discogs hipsters). I think the noisier and more non-music parts are the best, but I really dig the shit altogether. Dare I say, their first "serious album?" Can anyone who's an actual fan point me in the direction of some comparable stuff by them? I don't care if it's incredibly hard to find, I'm just searching YouTube.
Edit: Senzuri Power Up sounds like the thing I need. Oh, and any band that just pastes their logo over Ramones logos and sells them as patches is BRILLIANT.
Quote from: Peterson on June 09, 2016, 03:40:06 AM
Oh, and any band that just pastes their logo over Ramones logos and sells them as patches is BRILLIANT.
That's a great patch but I don't think the band made them.
Seems like you're into more varied records. i.e. a few different approaches in one release? If so, Senzuri Powerup is indeed a good record for exactly what you describe. You could do worse than Gay Sex Can Be Aids too in terms of that approach if not so much the actual sound (still ultra gutter, shitty noise w/ moaning, drum machines etc).
I always really loved Live Greatest Hits for this reason, plus the added bonus of this having actually happened in real time, in front of people.
Hotel Ultra is a tough listen but really great for completely useless, perverted, head scratching self torture. In a nutshell: long audio straight off a gay porn, then sax + bloopy electronics and japanese ranting. Can't remember if it was mentioned on here or the old board, but I recall an amusing anecdote about someone listening to that LP with a japanese girl who described the spoken bits as Juntaro talking about gay clubs he goes to and inviting listeners to come and do things to him there. Doesn't get much better than that.
Quote from: Peterson on June 09, 2016, 03:40:06 AM
Can anyone who's an actual fan point me in the direction of some comparable stuff by them?
Try "Hell Driver".
Hi everyone.
I actually joined this forum specifically to post in this thread, and I have further thoughts forthcoming over the weekend, but I just wanted to point out that someone uploaded Piano River to youtube, and that sorta pisses me off a bunch, for reasons I'm unable to properly articulate at this time.
its shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSSGi0Or9yk
Also I just found this live clip!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGe8hvWxIWY
Quote from: a_2_g_2 on June 24, 2016, 08:59:51 PM
its shit
I disagree, although it's not especially interesting to listen to. I've also owned it for a few years. It's what the track "Stairway To Promotion" off Singles is from, I believe. (Or, rather, the track is a selection from the recordings featured on the tape.)
Also, a guy with the same username as the one peddling those bootlegs on discogs uploaded a clip from one of the more difficult to obtain Nihilist Surfin' Group tapes.
Quote from: a_2_g_2 on June 24, 2016, 08:59:51 PM
Also I just found this live clip!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGe8hvWxIWY
i always loved that lives
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbRg8V1Uh4M (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbRg8V1Uh4M)
to each their own.
This is more like it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emJ-QH8N8mE
Quote from: cutter on June 24, 2016, 09:14:30 PM
Quote from: a_2_g_2 on June 24, 2016, 08:59:51 PM
Also I just found this live clip!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGe8hvWxIWY
i always loved that lives
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbRg8V1Uh4M (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbRg8V1Uh4M)
Probably the only live footage in existence (?)
I can't be alone in having never seen that 10 sec clip before?!!!! Amazing!!!!
Okay, big post incoming:
The Gerogerigegege is one of the most important, if not just the most important, bands in my life. I won't try to explain it, because I can't, but I was introduced to them at a very formative and critical time in my life and they have forever altered my worldview and how I think about art. So that's that. I have at least one of every major Gero release (the exception being Senzuri Champion), a couple rarities and alternate covers (Ramones Showa etc.) and a copy of the Piano River tape, which I obtained from the original owner, a friend of mine who was a Gero obsessive in the early 2000's and had a brief mail correspondence with Juntaro before he fell off the face of the planet.
ANYWAY, I too received a Discogs message back in March from the "blackoperations" account regarding the Gero-P, Piano River and TNB split releases. ("blackoperations" is also the YouTube account that uploaded the NSG clip previously linked.) I was immediately kind of suspect, so I followed up with some questions asking to clarify the nature of the releases. Some of you already seem to know who this person is, or otherwise claims to be, and I was told about the same thing. I guess for the sake of privacy I'll just say they told me that they are involved with TNB.
I feel like making Gero bootlegs at this point in time is in
exceedingly poor taste, given that Juntaro has become active again. Regardless of one's intentions, the renewed interest in Gero "Monai Hai"s release has created makes it seem a bit opportunistic. Not only that, but now that we all know that Juntaro is alive and interested in releasing Gero material once again, the ethics of bootlegging what is no longer a 'presumed dead' or 'abandonware' project are much murkier. When I asked blackoperations for info regarding the legitimacy of the reissues, I was told this:
Quotethe piano/river and the gero p are being done by a friend and i am assisting. only very small number being made so they will still remain rare items of course. this is all done with a bigger project in mind which will seek juntaro permission, but these tapes are 'fan club' releases and due to small number have not sought permission.
"they will still remain rare items of course," seems like a really bad attitude to be approaching this with. If you're interested in maintaining the elusiveness of these items you shouldn't be bootlegging them in the first place. It sounds to me almost like a sales pitch. So, that makes me uncomfortable as hell!, as does the recent upload of Piano River onto YouTube. Not because I am worried about my tape becoming devalued (I'm never selling it), nor out of some misplaced sense of elitism at who hears it. Only that such an esoteric, obscure, unheard recording by an
extremely cult/fetish act such as Gero has been disseminated unceremoniously via YouTube.
The whole thing just sketches me out. I guess I'm a child of the internet and have never ordered tapes out of zines or done trades with people I've only ever talked to via post, having to have full faith in them. But canvassing Discogs, asking for sums as high as 75GPB upfront for a release with no release date, no details, no assurance of any kind sends up a bunch of red flags for me. Even if it's not an intentional ripoff, it's in poor taste and bad business. There's nothing stopping anyone from doing the same.
If anyone ever receives any followup information from the guy, or gets the stuff they paid for, please post about it! I'd love to see pics and stuff. I really do hope the whole thing is legit (although the bootlegs still make me extremely uncomfortable) and everything pans out and is wonderful, but I just can't invest in it on good faith alone.
Strange that blackoperations has moved on to new projects, when he hasn't been maintaining communication with folk about previous orders:
http://www.special-interests.net/forum/index.php?topic=4622.msg56146#msg56146
Hope this is resolved soon.
Quote from: burning on June 26, 2016, 05:02:14 PM
nor out of some misplaced sense of elitism at who hears it. Only that such an esoteric, obscure, unheard recording by an extremely cult/fetish act such as Gero has been disseminated unceremoniously via YouTube.
Sorry, but a misplaced sense of elitism at who hears it is exactly what this ends up being. I know it's not what you intend but you have to look at the reality of things here outside of what the group means to you. As you say, this is a cult band and as such their sphere of influence and interest goes way, way beyond what they might want to happen with their more rare, esoteric work. Before you take into account how much wee Junty and co. very likely played up to and thrived within their cult/obscure status BEFORE they disappeared, the culture of bootlegging/filesharing rarer items (or indeed, the whole discography) is something that has been going on way before the very recent resurfacing of Gero as a present, contactable entity and to expect that to suddenly tail off because they're back and interested in putting out new work is unrealistic.
I don't think it is a bad thing that this ended up on youtube...What is the difference between me wanting to hear this and, say, SHOWA and turning to Youtube to do so? Yeah, one is harder to find than the other but both are still super fucking rare and so I will have to turn to uploads/downloads or boots when I don't have 100 quid spare. This is the case with any rare musical item I'm afraid. If you aren't proposing that we either fight to spend huge quantities of money over minuscule runs of available copies or download it from someone or buy a bootleg then what would be a better way for people to access it? And why? From what I understand, Piano River is a typically Gero style piece of thrown together junk that was probably only so limited because it wasn't ever meant to be some hugely canonical representation of things. Just another slice of Juntaro's bizarre activities - i.e. what we love about the band in the first place - surely best enjoyed now for archival interests? I suppose now he's back there is scope for proper reissues of almost anything, but wouldn't an officially sanctioned reissue based more on cultishness and demand than the artist's own creative ideals be a pretty cynical move? I think it might be (though I'd absolutely buy it). Plenty of stuff like photographs, stories and information about Gero have been dumped unceremoniously online. Many of them shared on this very forum: is that ok but Piano River on youtube isn't?
No argument with you on expensive bootlegs being a shit idea, but then I've always stayed away from that stuff.
As for Blackoperations, like most people active in this country and its tiny noise communities I know who he is...I don't really understand the anonymity because you can piece it all together in about 3 mins looking through discogs, but I'll respect that here. Can't particularly comment on whatever is going on with these reissues but see my previous comments about expensive boots! One thing I will say though is that while I don't know him personally, he has appeared to be active in bringing alot of otherwise obscure info and music into a wider consciousness through his digging and contacting and I'm grateful for that. I dare say and awful lot of the Gero sound and info you and I have been exposed to up until now has at least a little bit to do with that. Food for thought if you want it. Another angle to things.
Please don't take my disapproval of one specific action as tacit approval for everything I haven't taken the time to single out !
As for the gentleman in question: All the gero "sound and info" I've been exposed to I got secondhand "on my own", from artnotart, my old collector friend, a dude in Germany I met on discogs, and other personal inquiries. I understand everyone's experiences are different, which is why I can only advocate for my own as valid. I wouldn't seek to invalidate anyone else's, only to advocate for a degree of caution into how we propagate these experiences.
I could go on about how filesharing (especially direct, peer-to-peer filesharing) is wholly distinct from something like YouTube because of the degree of intimacy it affords and personal investment it requires, but ...
At any rate, with both YT and filesharing there's no room (or incentive) for exploitation. So I think we can at least agree on the potentially suspect nature of some of these bootlegs.
Also please understand I'm in no way saying "don't listen to this!!" or "you aren't a TRVE KVLT fan if you listen to it on YouTube," or whatever, of course everyone is free to enjoy it now that it's widely available. I'm only expressing my personal disappointment that it happened in such a way. (And, if I allow myself to be just a little cynical, "Why couldn't it have been a rarity I haven't already heard?" Haha.)
The GEROGERIGEGEGE "燃えない灰" (Moenai Hai) LP on FOAD Records is up for preorders! Limited edition of 250 copies on dark swirl blue vinyl. Brand new album by this deranged master of noise from Japan, featuring Dr. Euro of EXECUTE on drums!
Link for pre-order:
http://scareystore-xx.hxcspace.com/product_info.php?products_id=18535
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Quote from: sterilization on May 12, 2016, 01:42:44 PM
Quote from: a_2_g_2 on May 11, 2016, 06:15:26 PM
So I assume that guy selling the bootleg Piano River tapes was a scammer? That guy wanted me to send him $31usd to his address.
Even though I REALLY wanted to buy those two from him, I had a bad feeling after he took FOREVER to reply to my inquiries and when he finally did, he ignored all of my questions and instead tried to press me to hurry up and send him way too much money for some bootlegs.
Shame if he actually did rip some people off..... He claimed that he was co-releasing the upcoming Gerogerigegege/TNB lp.
Anyone having experiences with this.
What I currently experiencing, seems just about the same.
Hurry up with payment, and then nothing happens. With looooong delays, some excuses of "fucking up with money" and soon to get things right. Well... One thinks what else to expect from TNB member at this point? I know I must have been foolish to think people can handle as easy tasks as to send items when being paid.
delay & excuses are fucking bull of shit thing
Apparently somebody in the comments (https://www.discogs.com/release/1344716-Piano-River/reviews#c572710%5B/url) of the piano/river said he got his bootleg copy and says its legit. But who knows its could all be a ruse.
(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k157/radokaz/gerotapes.jpg)
(http://scareystore-xx.hxcspace.com/images/gero_moenai_blu.jpg)
Just got this from Cripple Bastards' label FOAD/Scarey
http://scareystore-xx.hxcspace.com/product_info.php?products_id=18535
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on July 22, 2016, 11:30:05 AMAnyone having experiences with this.
i got my copies ok (they arrived while i was away on holidays so would've come sometime in the past two weeks)
Welcome to The Official Facebook of The GeroGeriGeGeGe!
<Cassette Version With Bonus Tracks>
Released on Irrational Arts UK (Sold Out on I.A)
We've Distribute 25 Copies
★This 25 Copies-Includes
Secret Talks of the Both Side
The GeroGeriGeGeGe/ Moenai Hai (Cassette/IA005)
Side A
①Out of Saiga
②The GeroGeriGeGeGe
③Secret Talk 1 (Unreleased)
Side B
①Tokyo～Sea of Losers (Cassette Edit)
②Final Tuning
③Secret Talk 2 (Unreleased)
New Edit,New Mastering
Red&Black Sandwich Cassette
Also small copies of Mail Order Edition(ltd ed.50)
Moenai Hai Dark Blue Vinyl+B1 Gero Poster+Liner Note(Japanese/English)
Bootleggers Must Die!
You,Fuckin'No Idea!
Your Head is Blank Cassette!
Ha! Ha! Ha!
The First,Contact to: vavaa@yahoo.co.jp
©️Gero 30
From the quote-unquote official Gero Facebook page
QuoteBootleggers Must Die!
You,Fuckin'No Idea!
Your Head is Blank Cassette!
Ha! Ha! Ha!
edit: ahahaha you beat me to posting that
I really want the tape because I am a sucker but I've already bought this album three times and I just put down a security deposit on a new apartment so I've got to sit this one out. If anyone here gets it, tell us what the "Secret Talk"s are, haha
Quote from: Cementimental on August 16, 2016, 02:36:02 PMYour Head is Blank Cassette!
One of the most epic insults.
Bootleg recordings are made and meant to spread the music and fun cheap! It is ridiculous that you take $ 31 for a cassette of music you do not own! May your Michael Gillham shame! People will create a copy of his counterfeit goods, we need to give them them for exchange or free to fans of Gero!
Quote from: yokohamaproductions on August 16, 2016, 10:07:50 PM
Bootleg recordings are made and meant to spread the music and fun cheap! It is ridiculous that you take $ 31 for a cassette of music you do not own! May your Michael Gillham shame! People will create a copy of his counterfeit goods, we need to give them them for exchange or free to fans of Gero!
I dunno who you are but I love you
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shots fired
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on July 22, 2016, 11:30:05 AM
Quote from: sterilization on May 12, 2016, 01:42:44 PM
Quote from: a_2_g_2 on May 11, 2016, 06:15:26 PM
So I assume that guy selling the bootleg Piano River tapes was a scammer? That guy wanted me to send him $31usd to his address.
Even though I REALLY wanted to buy those two from him, I had a bad feeling after he took FOREVER to reply to my inquiries and when he finally did, he ignored all of my questions and instead tried to press me to hurry up and send him way too much money for some bootlegs.
Shame if he actually did rip some people off..... He claimed that he was co-releasing the upcoming Gerogerigegege/TNB lp.
Anyone having experiences with this.
What I currently experiencing, seems just about the same.
Hurry up with payment, and then nothing happens. With looooong delays, some excuses of "fucking up with money" and soon to get things right. Well... One thinks what else to expect from TNB member at this point? I know I must have been foolish to think people can handle as easy tasks as to send items when being paid.
Miracles do happen. Received my tapes yesterday.
What's the story on Gero bootlegs by Freek..?
I received items today. Black Operations releases now listed at cheapest +-0 cost I can offer... Too bad these were unauthorized, but didn't think about it when ordered wholesale as the guy is supposed to be involved in official Gero related releases as well.
Vis a Vis Audio Arts has done some new releases, including a Gerogerigegege tribute, "Art Is (C)over Vol.1 - Tribute to The Gerogerigegege", and this one:
VA/REBELLION 1985(cassette)
vav0933
The Nihilism(Japan)
Agression(Germany)
Boh-Boh(Japan)
Pax Romana(Sweden),
P16D4(Germany)
Toshifumi Kawase(Japan)
Mauthausen Orchestra(Italy)
Merzbow(Japan)
The GeroGeriGeGeGe(Japan)
I Scream(Belgium)
Has anyone heard them? Will any European distros carry them soon?
Quote from: breidahl on February 05, 2017, 10:27:09 PM
Vis a Vis Audio Arts has done some new releases, including a Gerogerigegege tribute, "Art Is (C)over Vol.1 - Tribute to The Gerogerigegege", and this one:
VA/REBELLION 1985(cassette)
vav0933
The Nihilism(Japan)
Agression(Germany)
Boh-Boh(Japan)
Pax Romana(Sweden),
P16D4(Germany)
Toshifumi Kawase(Japan)
Mauthausen Orchestra(Italy)
Merzbow(Japan)
The GeroGeriGeGeGe(Japan)
I Scream(Belgium)
Has anyone heard them? Will any European distros carry them soon?
I recently got the
Rebellion 1985 compilation tape as well as another recent tape reissue,
The Herzliyya Boardwalk String Sextet's
Godzillas in the East. Both are really good. The compilation was meant to be released in 1985 by a different label, but it was never released. It's a mix of more melodic and rhythmic synth/electronics stuff and noise/noisy material, from a time when there was often no clear difference between these styles.
The THBSS ("Boardwalk" is consistently misspelled as "Boadwalk" on the cover and the tape) tape is a reissue of a tape from 1989 by this Israeli project. It doesn't get much more obscure than this, so I just had to get it. Side A is a bit like the first
New Blockaders album in its single-minded focus, although not as harsh; side B is more varied, being a bit like a mix of TNB and the
Haters.
Vis a Vis has recently put out two new tapes: a reissue of two early
S.B.O.T.H.I. tapes on a single tape, and a reissue of early
Context material.
The new Drone Lebanon collection Juntaro just released is pretty killer as well.
https://www.discogs.com/The-Gerogerigegege-Live-At-Suizokukan-2016/release/9756520
(http://dpegb9ebondhq.cloudfront.net/product_photos/50858975/shop_20167_original.jpg)
http://scrotumrecords.storenvy.com/products/20013554-the-gerogerigegege-12-vinyl-ep
Quote from: radokaz on May 15, 2017, 01:21:13 PM
(http://dpegb9ebondhq.cloudfront.net/product_photos/50858975/shop_20167_original.jpg)
http://scrotumrecords.storenvy.com/products/20013554-the-gerogerigegege-12-vinyl-ep
'Straight after the gorgeous album,,Moenai Hai" from 2016,
The GeroGeriGeGeGe are back with a new fantastic 12" vinyl record.
On April 23rd 2003, The GeroGeriGeGeGe hits the road on 8 city west coast tour.
They would them make history by partaking in the first ever all scratch music tour.
The unique thing about this record is that most of the sounds were designed and
arranged before the group actually rehearsed it. In other words, you will hear this
record and be challenged with the question on how to use the sounds just as they were.
With less than 2 weeks to practice, the member took bits and pieces of sounds from
this record, and created the vibe featured on this tour.
Like any The GeroGeriGeGeGe releases, this is not your average record,
this is an instrument featuring custom made sounds, vintage synths, as well as samples from
seminal albums such as ,,Sketchbook: An Introduction to Good Music".
Wether you're trying to mimmick the song performed on the tour and album, create original
good music, or producing tracks traditionally,
there's enough samples to bang out multiple albums.
A piece of history on wax.'huh?
Quote from: Duncan on May 15, 2017, 01:47:12 PM
On April 23rd 2003, The GeroGeriGeGeGe hits the road on 8 city west coast tour.
They would them make history by partaking in the first ever all scratch music tour.
The unique thing about this record is that most of the sounds were designed and
arranged before the group actually rehearsed it. In other words, you will hear this
record and be challenged with the question on how to use the sounds just as they were.
With less than 2 weeks to practice, the member took bits and pieces of sounds from
this record, and created the vibe featured on this tour.
Like any The GeroGeriGeGeGe releases, this is not your average record,
this is an instrument featuring custom made sounds, vintage synths, as well as samples from
seminal albums such as ,,Sketchbook: An Introduction to Good Music".
Wether you're trying to mimmick the song performed on the tour and album, create original
good music, or producing tracks traditionally,
there's enough samples to bang out multiple albums.
A piece of history on wax.'
Press release adapted from the sleevenotes of this https://www.discogs.com/Ricci-Rucker-D-Styles-Mike-Boo-Excess-2-Toadstyle-Bastrd-Language-Tour-Official-Show-Vinyl/release/771924
Quote from: HongKongGoolagong on May 15, 2017, 05:17:18 PM
Quote from: Duncan on May 15, 2017, 01:47:12 PM
On April 23rd 2003, The GeroGeriGeGeGe hits the road on 8 city west coast tour.
They would them make history by partaking in the first ever all scratch music tour.
The unique thing about this record is that most of the sounds were designed and
arranged before the group actually rehearsed it. In other words, you will hear this
record and be challenged with the question on how to use the sounds just as they were.
With less than 2 weeks to practice, the member took bits and pieces of sounds from
this record, and created the vibe featured on this tour.
Like any The GeroGeriGeGeGe releases, this is not your average record,
this is an instrument featuring custom made sounds, vintage synths, as well as samples from
seminal albums such as ,,Sketchbook: An Introduction to Good Music".
Wether you're trying to mimmick the song performed on the tour and album, create original
good music, or producing tracks traditionally,
there's enough samples to bang out multiple albums.
A piece of history on wax.'
Press release adapted from the sleevenotes of this https://www.discogs.com/Ricci-Rucker-D-Styles-Mike-Boo-Excess-2-Toadstyle-Bastrd-Language-Tour-Official-Show-Vinyl/release/771924
Well there you have it! good spot/find.
Quoting from Now Listening thread:
Quote from: Duncan on May 23, 2017, 02:22:59 PM
Gerogerigegege - S/T 12" ep - Scrotum Records (2017)
Side A is some sort of Japanese disco/funk thing, Side B is a load of short loops of pieces from the same track, or so it sounds. Total bummer.
Quote from: Duncan on May 25, 2017, 07:38:49 PM
Quoting from Now Listening thread:
Quote from: Duncan on May 23, 2017, 02:22:59 PM
Gerogerigegege - S/T 12" ep - Scrotum Records (2017)
Side A is some sort of Japanese disco/funk thing, Side B is a load of short loops of pieces from the same track, or so it sounds. Total bummer.
So the sound is probably just the completely obscure Ricci Rucker et al release unaltered but now with the name Gerogerigegege added to the sleeve. That sounds a very suitable Gero release, genius! Especially as the dates of that tour correspond to the Juntaro serious illness time if my memory isn't wrong. A concept.
Am told Vis A Vis Audio Arts want to reissue Smell & Quim 'The English Method' and hope this happens.
Quote from: Duncan on May 15, 2017, 05:30:59 PM
Quote from: HongKongGoolagong on May 15, 2017, 05:17:18 PM
Quote from: Duncan on May 15, 2017, 01:47:12 PM
On April 23rd 2003, The GeroGeriGeGeGe hits the road on 8 city west coast tour.
They would them make history by partaking in the first ever all scratch music tour.
The unique thing about this record is that most of the sounds were designed and
arranged before the group actually rehearsed it. In other words, you will hear this
record and be challenged with the question on how to use the sounds just as they were.
With less than 2 weeks to practice, the member took bits and pieces of sounds from
this record, and created the vibe featured on this tour.
Like any The GeroGeriGeGeGe releases, this is not your average record,
this is an instrument featuring custom made sounds, vintage synths, as well as samples from
seminal albums such as ,,Sketchbook: An Introduction to Good Music".
Wether you're trying to mimmick the song performed on the tour and album, create original
good music, or producing tracks traditionally,
there's enough samples to bang out multiple albums.
A piece of history on wax.'
Press release adapted from the sleevenotes of this https://www.discogs.com/Ricci-Rucker-D-Styles-Mike-Boo-Excess-2-Toadstyle-Bastrd-Language-Tour-Official-Show-Vinyl/release/771924
Well there you have it! good spot/find.
So, is this just the sound of a random hip hop tour 12" being used for a Gero release..? I can't see see any connection. Appreciate all the confusion though..
Quote from: impulse manslaughter on May 26, 2017, 11:07:57 AM
Quote from: Duncan on May 15, 2017, 05:30:59 PM
Quote from: HongKongGoolagong on May 15, 2017, 05:17:18 PM
Quote from: Duncan on May 15, 2017, 01:47:12 PM
On April 23rd 2003, The GeroGeriGeGeGe hits the road on 8 city west coast tour.
They would them make history by partaking in the first ever all scratch music tour.
The unique thing about this record is that most of the sounds were designed and
arranged before the group actually rehearsed it. In other words, you will hear this
record and be challenged with the question on how to use the sounds just as they were.
With less than 2 weeks to practice, the member took bits and pieces of sounds from
this record, and created the vibe featured on this tour.
Like any The GeroGeriGeGeGe releases, this is not your average record,
this is an instrument featuring custom made sounds, vintage synths, as well as samples from
seminal albums such as ,,Sketchbook: An Introduction to Good Music".
Wether you're trying to mimmick the song performed on the tour and album, create original
good music, or producing tracks traditionally,
there's enough samples to bang out multiple albums.
A piece of history on wax.'
Press release adapted from the sleevenotes of this https://www.discogs.com/Ricci-Rucker-D-Styles-Mike-Boo-Excess-2-Toadstyle-Bastrd-Language-Tour-Official-Show-Vinyl/release/771924
Well there you have it! good spot/find.
So, is this just the sound of a random hip hop tour 12" being used for a Gero release..? I can't see see any connection. Appreciate all the confusion though..
well, they released a tape of shitty cambodian pop songs, if you count that as a connection.
The song is definitely Japanese and the b side loops are often grunts of the male vocalist which sound a bit lewd so I'd expect juntaro still picked and cut audio. Still total shite.
^ It's a battle record. Cop two and attend your local DJ battle!
https://youtu.be/qA7MsLBv_-U
Some of the comedic/nonsense releases are what makes G so interesting and fun to me. I am sort of eager to hear this one.. Ordered via his FB page with OBI edition when he posted it.
I'm really happy I have it and love it as an example of true Gero irritation. Just be aware that there is next to zero sonic worth to this record.
Quote from: Duncan on May 26, 2017, 10:18:45 PM
I'm really happy I have it and love it as an example of true Gero irritation. Just be aware that there is next to zero sonic worth to this record.
I suppose it is absolute amazing comeback. Probably many would aim to please fans with giving them what they want - in form of something expected. Classic reissues and making something what would be most obviously appreciated. For example killer noisecore blasting or such. Instead, to put out absurd nonsense, seems much more accurately the
real Gerogerigegege!
That said, of course I'd personally appreciate if there would be some
killer noise on some upcoming releases. If not, as much as I have always been fan of Gerogerigegege, probably simply space restrictions will dictate that no longer point of having albums for sake of "collecting". They'd need to be stuff what one at least theoretically likes to listen to... Still, appreciate this 12" as true gero absurdity!
Quote from: SILVUM on June 01, 2017, 05:06:21 PM
Pretty sure the Recycled tape is just Ron playing records from his shop, no Gero true input on the Cambodian pop tape.
I recall at least one of the Stomach Ache 7"s that is supposedly Gero, is just label putting couple japanese pop tunes on vinyl, from tape that Juntaro had sent them. It wasn't "master", or meant to be release, just some crap thrown in the box of stuff. I recall there was some confusion in deals, and label recouped some financial losses by putting out the 7"? Sort of extended absurdity, hah...
Quote from: SILVUM on June 01, 2017, 05:06:21 PM
Pretty sure the Recycled tape is just Ron playing records from his shop, no Gero true input on the Cambodian pop tape.
Hesitant to order direct, got the comeback Lp direct, but still waiting on Shaking Box until i send him more money...
Everything I ordered through the FB page came through promptly, but how much is he asking for the shaking box? I hear it's patches and a shirt instead of empty cassettes..
Never knew this about the Stomach Ache 7"s. 'William Bennett' sounds like Gero. The other one is just pop songs.
I have all the 7"s, except for off course the flexi. Listened to them all in one session recently and it is so much better than just putting on one record..
Quote from: Eastern Embargo on June 01, 2017, 11:18:45 PM
Quote from: SILVUM on June 01, 2017, 05:06:21 PM
Pretty sure the Recycled tape is just Ron playing records from his shop, no Gero true input on the Cambodian pop tape.
Hesitant to order direct, got the comeback Lp direct, but still waiting on Shaking Box until i send him more money...
Everything I ordered through the FB page came through promptly, but how much is he asking for the shaking box? I hear it's patches and a shirt instead of empty cassettes..
Ron is doing a shaking box at RRR? That is interesting indeed! Any news on that one? Thanks! Freek
Quote from: impulse manslaughter on September 14, 2016, 12:28:12 PM
What's the story on Gero bootlegs by Freek..?
Please see my message on Special Interests - I hope this answers your question.
Quote from: radokaz on August 02, 2016, 10:13:59 AM
(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k157/radokaz/gerotapes.jpg)
I have these two original - mind you, the Gero-P one I have is the Omnipresent release from the early 90s.
I have never seen an original Gero-P.
Anyone bought / listened the Hentaitenno tape from Vis A Vis ? Few words, thoughts about it ? The track on Extreme Music From Japan comp makes me wanna listen more.
Or for the Anya Enot tape. Can't find any info online about this project.
Just curious --- has anyone ordered any of this new Vis A Vis Audio Arts stuff in the last year or so and actually received it? I don't care about things taking a long time, but ordered a bunch of stuff and haven't heard anything since December. Sort of expected that it would take a while \ never come, but interested to know others experiences
I had ordered Rebellion VA and The Herzliyya Boardwalk tape about a month after their announcement / release. They came in zero time. Then i ordered 2 tapes more, Hentaitenno and The English Method. Still waiting ... From last year's July i think. I hope they will arrive somewhen, i am pretty sure they will, just instict. But i need more of the stuff he has announced, and need these tapes to arrive to move on for more.
Art Into Life had copies of the new tapes, don't know how many, but these releases exist.
About S&Q releases, i guess the guy added them in Discogs is one of them. Now i see some releases have more haves than just him -last time i had checked it was just him- . Not sure if new havers actually recieved their copies or just ordered and added them. Or if they are from Art Into Life's stock.
Quote from: Theodore on March 09, 2018, 10:01:14 PM
I had ordered Rebellion VA and The Herzliyya Boardwalk tape about a month after their announcement / release. They came in zero time.
I'm not sure when these tapes were released, but I ordered them in January or February 2017, I think, and I received them really quickly too. Then in March 2017 I ordered an S.B.O.T.H.I. tape too, and that also arrived quickly. My email correspondence with Juntaro regarding these orders was smooth and without problems, too. I haven't ordered from him since as no other releases have really interested me.
When the occasional search on Twitter bears fruit: Juntaro on Japanese tv infront of the famous tape wall, interview, rehearsal footage and some kind of other screaming Japanese fellow. Also seems like Issei Sagawa is in there too. Why the fuck not?
https://www.youtube.com/embed/_Argle114js
!!! incredible find :)
auto translated subtitles are pretty decent:
(https://s7.postimg.cc/cn2iqyy4r/Screen_Shot_2018-05-08_at_15.05.35.png)
(https://s7.postimg.cc/sy2mn9v6z/Screen_Shot_2018-05-08_at_15.06.57.png)
Quote from: totalblack on March 09, 2018, 02:09:11 AM
Just curious --- has anyone ordered any of this new Vis A Vis Audio Arts stuff in the last year or so and actually received it? I don't care about things taking a long time, but ordered a bunch of stuff and haven't heard anything since December. Sort of expected that it would take a while \ never come, but interested to know others experiences
i have also ordered 60+ euros worth of tapes from vis a vis around end of last year, never got anything ... all my e-mails after the order were completely ignored .... did he die, or...?
Quote from: Theodore on June 27, 2017, 08:09:56 AM
Or for the Anya Enot tape. Can't find any info online about this project.
funny enough, we used to hang out a bit when a friend was dating her, so here's some useless insight
https://soundcloud.com/enotjjk
https://www.facebook.com/anefukakup13
I ordered two blackhumour and 4 Smell & Quim tapes from Vis a Vis back in October of 2017, and received them within a month. Based on what I've heard elsewhere, I decided not to push my luck and open a second order.
Quote from: Low Life High Volume on June 29, 2018, 09:09:01 PM
Quote from: totalblack on March 09, 2018, 02:09:11 AM
Just curious --- has anyone ordered any of this new Vis A Vis Audio Arts stuff in the last year or so and actually received it? I don't care about things taking a long time, but ordered a bunch of stuff and haven't heard anything since December. Sort of expected that it would take a while \ never come, but interested to know others experiences
i have also ordered 60+ euros worth of tapes from vis a vis around end of last year, never got anything ... all my e-mails after the order were completely ignored .... did he die, or...
so it took almost an entire year, but i was not forgotten! it finally arrived.
(https://i.imgur.com/7LTgzI8.png)
Quote from: Low Life High Volume on October 15, 2018, 06:53:54 AM
so it took almost an entire year, but i was not forgotten! it finally arrived.
Good news ! Thanks for let us know. I was thinking about this order of mine the other day. Mine is more than a year. I thought that i better forget it and whatever, whenever, if it comes ... I hope the rest orders were sent too, or to be soon.
will also confirm that I just got an email from Juntaro apologizing and saying that he will put together my tapes now, so looks like he's active again.
Has anyone seen the DVD which is for sale at least on Fantastique?
https://www.fantastiquehq.com/shop/the-gerogerigegege-dvd/ (https://www.fantastiquehq.com/shop/the-gerogerigegege-dvd/)
"LEGENDARY LIVE Gerogerigegege footage + 3 additional live sets...".
I'll post what I posted over on NoiseGuide:
If you're interested in the Hanatarash and Gerogerigegege DVDs that were recently released, please forget about it.
I bought both for $15 each. I don't know if you have heard about that site called YouTube, but the DVD's are simply rips of videos from YouTube. The Gerogerigegege is one video of the Gero30 and Juntaro and four videos of the Ramones live. I guess the producers thought they were as clever as Juntaro. I don't know.
In order to save you time and money here are the exact videos in the DVDs.
Hanatarash playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikPoD_UyvSvjr2CgI9FA0hnqjD7-MHFZ
Gerogerigegege video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbRg8V1Uh4M&feature=youtu.be
You can thank me by sending me the $30.
edit: better yet, just buy one of my CD's!
Quote from: Marko-V on November 02, 2018, 07:41:44 PM
Has anyone seen the DVD which is for sale at least on Fantastique?
https://www.fantastiquehq.com/shop/the-gerogerigegege-dvd/ (https://www.fantastiquehq.com/shop/the-gerogerigegege-dvd/)
"LEGENDARY LIVE Gerogerigegege footage + 3 additional live sets...".
I asked some questions about what was on that DVD when it was advertised in the classified section and got super cagey half answers so decided to leave it. Not surprised about hearing this, a shame that some people took the punt.
(https://scontent.fbeg1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/46699452_2294174374136938_5436205531784019968_n.jpg?_nc_cat=101&_nc_ht=scontent.fbeg1-1.fna&oh=464ee5a5230a295edc86c6ac33bd2a70&oe=5CAB20B3)
"Senzuri Champion Revised" cd edition of Senzuri Champion consisting of alternate takes, live versions and unreleased tracks from around 1985/1988.
has that been released yet? where can i grab it
Oh cool. I echo the above questions.
copies on the way to Rumpsti Pumsti (Musik) in berlin
http://mailorder.Rumpsti-Pumsti.com (http://mailorder.Rumpsti-Pumsti.com)
Copies on the way to Fantastique in USA.
Quote from: aububs on November 22, 2018, 11:13:26 PM
has that been released yet? where can i grab it
vavaa0930@yahoo.co.jp
After a string of hopeful and quick responses 5 weeks ago, I still haven't received anything and communication has dried up again. Maybe I fucked up and ordered items that never existed? Some of these Smell & Quim tapes don't seem to be actually owned by anyone, same with Dead Body Art. These CDs actually seem to be real items at least
Quote from: fantastique on November 23, 2018, 08:44:24 PM
Copies on the way to Fantastique in USA.
https://www.fantastiquehq.com
correct?
Always appreciate when distros/stores include their links in posts if they don't have it in their signatures.
i actually prefer that really weird "ambient" (anti-)record, hell driver, he did before not long before the long hiatus...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLqZFO0e-A0
of course, maybe due to sentimental reasons in a way, i can still get a kick out of listening to tokyo anal dynamite and i generally admire this bizarre project, even if i think some of their stuff can get too silly. classic merciless noise attitude
Has anyone heard from Juntaro recently? I'm still waiting on an order from last year.
Quote from: PeekingRat on April 04, 2019, 04:40:47 PM
Has anyone heard from Juntaro recently? I'm still waiting on an order from last year.
Dont cut in line. Almost 2 years here. - Seriously, myself i havent ordered the Smell & Quim releases that were released the last month by other labels, it is other stuff i am waiting, but thinking those still waiting them ... Yeah, it sucks.
2-3 emails i have sent him during the 2 years period, i didnt get an answer. And that's the worst. Anyway, i am still waiting. Dont want to believe he ripped us all off.
^ According to Discogs, a few people did manage to get their boxes and one sold for just under $300 :0
I got lucky I caught him in a good time and managed to get my purchases and t-shirts, but since hearing of delays, I have been hesitant purchasing new releases. GL!
What's the crossover between people sending in recordings of their masturbation to people who have recieved their orders? :p
It amazes me how people say one thing when they really mean different. I know all folks into noise underground are natural born irony/satire prodigies, but c'mon: imagine this kind of delay from an average artist on a common label - he'd be smashed to bits the next month and the label damped in "give my money back" claims overnight. It isn't hypocrisy, it isn't the matter of being mean to anybody (Juntaro owes me just one TS, pretty lucky among others) BUT - this guy IS a rip-off. Admit it and get over it, you hypocrites, and there is different thread for such folks on this forum.
I do assume that many, even big fans, hesitate to place orders to him.
Some who did, do regret.
Juntaro being rip off, is known since... probably late 80's!
I would assume it is matter of fans who want to stuff, and there is no other option than direct order. Pure gamble they won't do when it's lesser known name.
I have pretty decent Gero collection and it has important part in my noise history, but for reasons above, I won't place orders from him.
Me calling him a rip off would be like closing this chapter and kinda giving him the OK to not send anything. No ! I am expecting the tapes i bought.
My first order came in 4 days. The second, never. When it was the time to claim my money from Paypal i decided not to. Yes, cause it's Juntaro, you are right, if it was someone of different "status" i would had claimed my money back. And cause i wanted the material. Took my chances. I lost, it seems, i hate to admit it. I want to believe it's otherwise, for practical and selfish reasons, although it is what it seems, it is what it is.
Lesson learned. In any case -yes, i cant shallow it- .
I placed an order in september '18 for the ZSF tape and Gero-P. Got a reply prior ordering and another reply when i months later asked him for an update. Never received anything. I haven't seen the re-release of the ZSF tape elsewhere either, is it for real?
I'd trade for a great tape dup of the ZSF tape. Not MP3's put onto tape.
Quote from: accidental on April 07, 2019, 01:07:12 AM
I placed an order in september '18 for the ZSF tape and Gero-P. Got a reply prior ordering and another reply when i months later asked him for an update. Never received anything. I haven't seen the re-release of the ZSF tape elsewhere either, is it for real?
I'd trade for a great tape dup of the ZSF tape. Not MP3's put onto tape.
Got my copy of the ZSF tape and the Gero-P after waiting four months. Juntaro sent the package AFTER I filed a paypal claim. This was my third and last direct order from him.
Made an order last September and after a few assurances that he'd send it, he stopped replying to me in January.
I made a very polite post on one of his recent Facebook updates asking for some communication, which was deleted. Upon noticing that a couple days later, I left another, still polite, comment asking for some communication. I was then promptly blocked from the page.
I got an email for him shortly after saying:
"Sorry for my delay.
I really bad my body.
I already finished your package.
I want to go to post office,asap."
Is he having health problems? I would certainly understand the delay if so. Hell, I understand it now with no reason at all - i'm patient, and from what I understand he wasn't very quick back in the day either. I myself have been notorious in the past for being slow to mail orders (I have since rectified this).
But banning me from the page? That I don't quite understand. I get deleting the comments - I was planning on doing so after i got some sort of response. It just irks me. I very much want a lot of the stuff he's selling, I just don't have time for nonsense like this.
Looks like they have a bandcamp now: https://thegerogerigegege.bandcamp.com/
But of course you can only stream a 7 second sample of each release and prices for even downloads are insane. Still, probably the only way you'll actually end up getting what you pay for!
It's a pity to see this completely legendary act devolve into a cheesy cash grab rip off.
am i looking at 800 quid for a download there? hahaha wow. amazing
Quote from: Duncan on May 18, 2019, 01:28:47 PM
It's a pity to see this completely legendary act devolve into a cheesy cash grab rip off.
Considering his reliability history, that bandcamp is incredibly aggressive.
Quote from: Duncan on May 18, 2019, 01:28:47 PM
Looks like they have a bandcamp now: https://thegerogerigegege.bandcamp.com/
But of course you can only stream a 7 second sample of each release and prices for even downloads are insane. Still, probably the only way you'll actually end up getting what you pay for!
It's a pity to see this completely legendary act devolve into a cheesy cash grab rip off.
When you buy physical from Bandcamp you get the files as well. In this case, the 7 second sample. I dont believe anyone thinks he has complete files uploaded, hidden, to be included with the download ! Also, i dont believe anyone thinks he will get the CD he is gonna buy, anymore.
Very pity indeed. I guess if in need for money a donation call would be more effective, for sure more honest.
A new email i sent, still unreplied. I stop wasting my time complaining about him.
Quote from: Duncan on May 18, 2019, 01:28:47 PM
Looks like they have a bandcamp now: https://thegerogerigegege.bandcamp.com/
But of course you can only stream a 7 second sample of each release and prices for even downloads are insane. Still, probably the only way you'll actually end up getting what you pay for!
It's a pity to see this completely legendary act devolve into a cheesy cash grab rip off.
I get the impression it's not meant to be taken seriously. And if it is, it shouldn't be.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6STWW_UwAEC_Jm?format=jpg&name=900x900)
IM BUSY M8
who's on the right?
Quote from: aububs on May 18, 2019, 03:59:25 PM
am i looking at 800 quid for a download there? hahaha wow. amazing
That's just the standard tactic for when you put up a bandcamp item that isn't actually the release / that you want to be streaming-only (in this case the audio samples are just a robot voice reading the title!), people make it effectively non-downloadable by putting a crazily high price
I'm certain anyone dumb enough to buy these as downloads would just get a download of the seconds-long robot voice!
I think Juntaro just hasn't realised you can add merch-only items, or doesn't want to do it that way for whatever reaon
'in this case the audio samples are just a robot voice reading the title!'
Changed my mind. Gero are brilliant again now.
he probably just wanted to claim the name on there to avoid this sort of thing happening: https://www.instagram.com/cementimental/ :(
Quote from: radokaz on May 20, 2019, 10:04:39 AM
who's on the right?
Pack Man from Space Invaders (jp punk group)
Quote from: Cementimental on May 20, 2019, 02:11:05 PM
Quote from: aububs on May 18, 2019, 03:59:25 PM
am i looking at 800 quid for a download there? hahaha wow. amazing
That's just the standard tactic for when you put up a bandcamp item that isn't actually the release / that you want to be streaming-only (in this case the audio samples are just a robot voice reading the title!), people make it effectively non-downloadable by putting a crazily high price
ah, ok
makes sense, sort of, i guess
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on May 19, 2019, 08:15:46 PM
Quote from: Duncan on May 18, 2019, 01:28:47 PM
Looks like they have a bandcamp now: https://thegerogerigegege.bandcamp.com/
But of course you can only stream a 7 second sample of each release and prices for even downloads are insane. Still, probably the only way you'll actually end up getting what you pay for!
It's a pity to see this completely legendary act devolve into a cheesy cash grab rip off.
I get the impression it's not meant to be taken seriously. And if it is, it shouldn't be.
Are you referring to the bcamp or Gero in general?
Anyone already taken the plunge and tried to order something off the Bandcamp?
Anyone know if the reissues on Vis A Vis of the first Gero tape (originally on ZSF) and the Gero-P tape are available anywhere else other than from Juntaro directly?
Don't see a lot of pictures of Juntaro.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BvMdR3VARLx/
Looks like Gero is releasing a LP on the techno/house label, The Trilogy Tapes:
https://www.instagram.com/p/B0fA3fgBvaC/
Will Bankhead has hinted his love for noise in the past, but never imagined Juntaro to join the roster.
Noise/weird is pretty well represented in TTT back catalogue: Dilloway, Dog Lady, Vom Grill, Olsen, Angela Sawyer, Andrew Coltrane etc etc
Excited to see a new Gero release that is likely to actually show up when you order it. Hope it's as good/bad as that fucking DJ scratch record.
Quote from: Eastern Embargo on July 29, 2019, 08:19:03 PM
Looks like Gero is releasing a LP on the techno/house label, The Trilogy Tapes:
https://www.instagram.com/p/B0fA3fgBvaC/
Will Bankhead has hinted his love for noise in the past, but never imagined Juntaro to join the roster.
Well I for one am truly looking forward to grabbing a copy of this release. A Gero release that will actually turn up when you buy it.
I'll piss myself laughing if it's actually some TTT'esque experimantal housey/techno stuff.
Well, not too far from the previous record.. lifted jazz sounds - https://www.lowcompany.co.uk/products/uguisudani-apocalypse
Updated description on the site makes it sound more exciting than the clips would let on. Any distros getting copies now that it is sold out from the source?
Quote from: Eigen Bast on August 17, 2019, 09:23:25 PM
Updated description on the site makes it sound more exciting than the clips would let on. Any distros getting copies now that it is sold out from the source?
I haven't stopped by to pick up my copy yet, but the samples from this one sound great. At least for me personally the stuff I've liked the most since the project restarted again.
And there are copies available still to order from Rumpsti Pumsti:
http://www.tochnit-aleph.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=4490&osCsid=b01bc1d51af81544b545ce1c9745b285 (http://www.tochnit-aleph.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=4490&osCsid=b01bc1d51af81544b545ce1c9745b285)
Quote from: Eastern Embargo on August 08, 2019, 08:32:04 PM
Well, not too far from the previous record.. lifted jazz sounds
Wish I could find that old noise zine comic where the guy orders a record by 'hitler bum sex' and is surprised to find it consists of straight Wurzels cover versions...
https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2493878387499868&id=1788230934731287
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This was posted few minutes ago on Gero facebook page :
https://youtu.be/1l2X51jhSzk
QuoteA totally unreleased album with lost & found recordings by the
undisputed ultra-noise master!
Japan's sickest senzuri noise perversion!!
The first picture disc ever released in Gero's boundless discography!!
Limited edition of 400 copies
Out in March 2020 on F.O.A.D. Records
Sample sounds awesome
Quote from: parapluie on February 28, 2020, 04:10:25 PM
This was posted few minutes ago on Gero facebook page :
https://youtu.be/1l2X51jhSzk
QuoteA totally unreleased album with lost & found recordings by the
undisputed ultra-noise master!
Japan's sickest senzuri noise perversion!!
The first picture disc ever released in Gero's boundless discography!!
Limited edition of 400 copies
Out in March 2020 on F.O.A.D. Records
Thank god it's coming out from F.O.A.D. - much more reliable than ordering from the man himself (still waiting for my Blackout Archives cd's).
Now undergoing the first spin of Piss Shower Girlfriend and it sure it full of Gero staples: lots of trashy, scummy noise, a few 1,2,3,4s...great stuff. Side a is a lot more direct and violent, really high octane in many ways! Just great, crude noise that sounds great (suspect a pretty decent mastering job got done on this). Punctuated with a few 'thank you's from juntaro in between blasts.
Things get a lot more shrieking and useless on side B and some kind of shit or another taped from the TV or radio gets piped through an amp (?), punctuated with vile spurts of feedback, yelling and just general buzzing, overloaded signal. Real trash, real fun. One 'track' is listed as a cover of TG's Discipline. Sure thing, Junty.
Hard to know how/where to place it among the records released since the 'comeback'. It's cool that this is allegedly late 80s/early 90s material that will tick all the right boxes for fans of the noise stuff, but I'm also glad that most of the newer things are annoying curveballs. I'm only talking about things released by other labels as it seems like nobody is getting their orders of the self released material?
The thing looks fucking great too.
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-7HUDeqlsRN4/XxRzN0qTlRI/AAAAAAAAAVU/t8DGzhyykXQfZBcXxzuiNE7rTPeeT52AQCNcBGAsYHQ/s400/geropic.jpg)
I have few very last copies if somebody's interested http://radokaz.blogspot.com/
My order from two years obviously won't reach my hands. Should have used paypal claim while it was still possible. How many of you, outside of Japan, has actually gotten your orders from him the last couple of years? Most releases are now added to discogs but they are pretty much unavailable there as well. Which is a shame.
Quote from: accidental on August 10, 2020, 05:39:22 PM
My order from two years obviously won't reach my hands. Should have used paypal claim while it was still possible. How many of you, outside of Japan, has actually gotten your orders from him the last couple of years? Most releases are now added to discogs but they are pretty much unavailable there as well. Which is a shame.
Same here, same length of time. Highly disappointing.
Quote from: accidental on August 10, 2020, 05:39:22 PM
My order from two years obviously won't reach my hands. Should have used paypal claim while it was still possible. How many of you, outside of Japan, has actually gotten your orders from him the last couple of years? Most releases are now added to discogs but they are pretty much unavailable there as well. Which is a shame.
Had to use paypal claim to get the tape reissues of demo and gero-p. Pretty sure id still be waiting if I had not. I'll never order directly from Juntaro again.
Just got the Descrendo lp yesterday. Beautiful fieldrecording and a nice surprise after the recent j-pop split 7".
Quote from: Julgran666 on August 12, 2020, 09:43:04 AM
Had to use paypal claim to get the tape reissues of demo and gero-p. Pretty sure id still be waiting if I had not. I'll never order directly from Juntaro again.
Just got the Descrendo lp yesterday. Beautiful fieldrecording and a nice surprise after the recent j-pop split 7".
I had told to myself i better accept i was ripped off and to move on. But i cant help me, this post makes me furious. You mean he did send you your stuff when in danger of loosing the money, right ? And we all the rest who showed some trust and gave him time, we are idiots. Obviously that he believes. What an asshole ! Dont even have the balls of saying yes i ripped you or sorry or whatever. If ever happened to know he is near, i would go put the knife under his jaw and leave him naked, if he was lucky enough to be no stupid and have something of value. But sadly it wont, cant happen ...
Quote from: Theodore on August 12, 2020, 01:23:16 PM
Quote from: Julgran666 on August 12, 2020, 09:43:04 AM
Had to use paypal claim to get the tape reissues of demo and gero-p. Pretty sure id still be waiting if I had not. I'll never order directly from Juntaro again.
Just got the Descrendo lp yesterday. Beautiful fieldrecording and a nice surprise after the recent j-pop split 7".
I had told to myself i better accept i was ripped off and to move on. But i cant help me, this post makes me furious. You mean he did send you your stuff when in danger of loosing the money, right ? And we all the rest who showed some trust and gave him time, we are idiots. Obviously that he believes. What an asshole ! Dont even have the balls of saying yes i ripped you or sorry or whatever. If ever happened to know he is near, i would go put the knife under his jaw and leave him naked, if he was lucky enough to be no stupid and have something of value. But sadly it wont, cant happen ...
Don't know if he planned to rip me of. Ordered two times before the last one and got the stuff sooner or later. But got suspicios about the tape reissues then I could not find even a picture oline and they didnt get listed on discogs.
Ended up adding Gero-P myself btw.
So in the last minute before the claim period ended, I just had to file a claim. The only response I got after quite some time was a tracking number.
Can add I hade some mail contact with Juntaro and always got a reply within minutes.
There is a new compilation out including some old noisecore 7" :
(https://i.imgur.com/lsujLGD.jpg)
Quote<TOKYO ANAL DYNAMITE SINGLES!!!>
シークレットライブだった1987年10月27日の音源が3年後、1990年に「パンクの鬼」としてリリースされ、ゲロゲリゲゲゲ のマスターピースの１枚になる。
その後、「パンクの鬼」の形態をとったシングルが海外のレーベルから限定リリースされる。
ANAL CUNT、MEAT SHITS、SEVEN MINUTES OF NAUSEAをリリースしたスコットランド伝説のノイズコアレーベル、PSYCHOMANIA RECORDSからの
「SENZURI MONKEY METAL ACTION」
(20曲/1992年)、
「YELLOW TRASH BAZOOKA」
(79曲/イタリア/S.O.A RECORDS/1993年)、
「MOTHER FELLATIO」
(84曲/ドイツ/A.I.P.R/1993年)
「ALL YOU NEED IS AUDIO SHOCK」
(62曲/ドイツ/REGURGITATED SEMEN/1995年)
「WRECK OF ROCK'N'ROLL FORMER SELF」
(59曲/ドイツ/A.I.P.R/1995年)。
シングルではカットした部分を今回は大胆にカットなしで収録。
他、リハーサル、未発表、リミックス、新録による全てのヴァージョンが初出、初CD化の全373曲！
アートワークに奇跡のYKOYKOを迎えた見逃し・聴き逃し・買い逃し厳禁の神盤！
12ページブックレット付き！
収録内容(クレジットは録音された年を表記しています)
1."ゲロゲリゲゲゲ のテーマ〜WE ARE THE GEROGERIGEGEGE"(2020年) 新録
2."野外アンプラグドセッション"(8曲/2001年) 未発表
3."YELLOW TRASH BAZOOKA"(SIDE A/40曲/1993年) 無修正ヴァージョン
4."YELLOW TRASH BAZOOKA"(SIDE B/39曲/1993年) 無修正ヴァージョン
5."ALL YOU NEED IS AUDIO SHOCK"(SIDE B/37曲/1995年) 2020年 リミックス
6."ALL YOU NEED IS AUDIO SHOCK"(SIDE A/25曲/1995年) 2020年 リミックス
7."MOTHER FELLATIO"(SIDE A/44曲/1993年) 無修正ヴァージョン
8."MOTHER FELLATIO"(SIDE B/40曲/1993年) 無修正ヴァージョン
9."MOTHER FELLATIO REHEARSAL"(5曲/1993年) 未発表
10."SENZURI MONKEY METAL ACTION"(20曲/1986年) SIDE A〜SIDE B ノーカットヴァージョン
11."UNRELEASED COMPILATION TRACKS"(16曲/1994年) 未発表
12."AFTER AUDIO SHOCK"(19曲/1996年) 未発表
13."ALL YOU NEED IS REHEARSAL#1"(24曲/1995年) 未発表
14."ALL YOU NEED IS REHEARSAL#2"(33曲/1995年) 未発表
15."FIRST RECORDING"(1曲/1985年) HM-2 ヴァージョン
16."WRECK OF ROCK'N'ROLL FORMER SELF"(21曲/1995年) 未発表カバーセッション
2020年10月28日リリース！
予約・通販
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https://diskunion.net/avant/ct/detail/1008195498
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オマエなんて知らない "オマンチスト" (1987年12月29日バウスシアター・ノーカット音源/CDR/7インチサイズジャケット)
http://inundow.shop-pro.jp/?pid=154109254
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http://www.bigloverecords.jp/
I can't read japanese at all but there seems to be a bonus CDr also available from japanese retailers. Will try to find if there is a way to order in english to one of those retailers.
This "Tokyo Anal Dynamite Singles" compilation comes with a different CDr depending on the store where you buy it.
Big Love Records ltd Bonus CDr with 7" cover.
(https://i.imgur.com/NgL3oig.jpg)
https://www.facebook.com/thegerogerigegege.info/photos/a.1896817043872675/3011742175713484/
Inundow Shop CDr with 7" cover.
(https://i.imgur.com/w1dIDZB.jpg)
http://inundow.shop-pro.jp/?pid=154109254&fbclid=IwAR3RFoOPe342WhGSlHVegOI-wgzpdqVvttDpnrK6vhdaVPYgqaWYbyXUhOA
Vis'A'Vis Audio Arts ltd Bonus CDr with 7" cover.
(https://i.imgur.com/T9oJUDK.jpg)
https://www.facebook.com/thegerogerigegege.info/photos/a.1896817043872675/3011768395710862/
and
http://www.recordshopbase.com/coming4090.html?fbclid=IwAR1e6XdmaGwuQqnpVoD6v87eTFcGCtVy_KekbLOuh6GNHwVzPd7tYfrNaTU
DISK UNION ltd Bonus CDr
(https://i.imgur.com/oBXqu47.jpg)
https://diskunion.net/portal/ct/detail/1008195498
Plus a new 7" split with Sedem Minút Strachu is coming.
Any of those shops ship international? Disc Union only had JP options.
Quote from: Eigen Bast on September 29, 2020, 09:19:52 PM
Any of those shops ship international? Disc Union only had JP options.
Used to order from base all the time about 15 years ago. Usually by simply mailing in an order. Did mail a requset to order the cd a few days ago, but have not gotten a reply yet.
Urashima is also releasing a LP this year. Busy year for Juntaro senpai.
Urashima just released the info on the new batch. A 10xCD boxset! It's not obvious from the description, but it sounds like maybe it's new material...? Emailed back for more details.
It was a long description that left me wondering what the hell the release actually was, to be honest. We're conditioned to assume a reissue with Urashima but I agree that it more sounded like new stuff.
Thought the same thing after reading it. Then I read it again and I think it is all new material.
I asked too. Got this reply:
'Follow the same non musical structure of Showa LP with dialogue/squeeze/fuck with man and woman. The real essential of Juntaro!'
As much as I respect what Urashima does I don't think I need 10 discs of this.
I got this additional description:
"Gero album is unreleased archived material, but please note that as I wrote is similar to Showa - no music and very low-fi recordings."
Tokyo Anal Dynamite Singles collection showed up today and it kicks ass.
The CD-R single I got was from Record Store Base and included an extremely underwhelming SPK cover and a Disorder cover that kinda rules. The whole thing totals 2:45 so you're not missing much.
Gerogerigegege- Showa LP
I feel this has been often misunderstood as some kind of 'punk', 'protest' or 'joke' record... so called japnoise 'fans' like Thurston Moore can't recognize that this has all the hallmarks of a nationalistic record. It is literally the sound of how Japanese people are made. Japanese lebensborn. Nothing 'tongue in cheek' about it IMO
The entire rest of the extensive Gero catalog is perverted fetishisn, deliberately bad recordings and appropriated obscure trash/pop culture jokes but that one record just happens to be a deadly serious example of whatever weird European nationalist ideas you are into? Hmm OK interesting contrarian take I suppose.
Quote from: Cementimental on November 18, 2020, 09:22:10 PM
The entire rest of the extensive Gero catalog is perverted fetishisn, deliberately bad recordings and appropriated obscure trash/pop culture jokes but that one record just happens to be a deadly serious example of whatever weird European nationalist ideas you are into? Hmm OK interesting contrarian take I suppose.
I guess the question then becomes one of determining how deadly serious an approach to humor/other Gerogerigegege themes can be? I would not dismiss his view out of hand, though it is probably a bit of an over-analysis.
Quote from: Balor/SS1535 on November 18, 2020, 10:08:23 PM
Quote from: Cementimental on November 18, 2020, 09:22:10 PM
The entire rest of the extensive Gero catalog is perverted fetishisn, deliberately bad recordings and appropriated obscure trash/pop culture jokes but that one record just happens to be a deadly serious example of whatever weird European nationalist ideas you are into? Hmm OK interesting contrarian take I suppose.
I guess the question then becomes one of determining how deadly serious an approach to humor/other Gerogerigegege themes can be? I would not dismiss his view out of hand, though it is probably a bit of an over-analysis.
However, I should preface my comment by saying that I do not know what the circumstances around the recording/releasing of that album were.
https://twitter.com/karasukiller/status/1117428998319919107
Quote from: Eloy on November 18, 2020, 11:35:56 PM
https://twitter.com/karasukiller/status/1117428998319919107
I never expected him to be a nationalist in any form (his anti-music is almost enough to prove that). I can't read the bottom of the patch, though - does it say Antifa?
Quote from: Balor/SS1535 on November 19, 2020, 12:47:37 AM
Quote from: Eloy on November 18, 2020, 11:35:56 PM
https://twitter.com/karasukiller/status/1117428998319919107
I never expected him to be a nationalist in any form (his anti-music is almost enough to prove that). I can't read the bottom of the patch, though - does it say Antifa?
"Support your local antifa" , i think. - Bliah !
Dont know how anti-music is connected with nationalism, or antifa, or any politics...
Quote from: Theodore on November 19, 2020, 02:24:31 AM
Quote from: Balor/SS1535 on November 19, 2020, 12:47:37 AM
Quote from: Eloy on November 18, 2020, 11:35:56 PM
https://twitter.com/karasukiller/status/1117428998319919107
I never expected him to be a nationalist in any form (his anti-music is almost enough to prove that). I can't read the bottom of the patch, though - does it say Antifa?
"Support your local antifa" , i think. - Bliah !
Dont know how anti-music is connected with nationalism, or antifa, or any politics...
That's what I thought it said.
I didn't want to make any particular connection with politics, so much as say that anti-music does not seem to be really used in political contexts in the first place (excluding, of course, the inevitable exception). I never got any political meaning out of The Gerogerigegege in the first place, and actually tend to listen to them when I want to avoid music with any political/serious themes.
http://store.karasukiller.com/pd-27c01c-karasu-killer-against-nationalism-patch.html?ct=9f717&p=3&s=1 (http://store.karasukiller.com/pd-27c01c-karasu-killer-against-nationalism-patch.html?ct=9f717&p=3&s=1)
Quote from: Balor/SS1535 on November 19, 2020, 03:32:41 AM
I didn't want to make any particular connection with politics, so much as say that anti-music does not seem to be really used in political contexts in the first place (excluding, of course, the inevitable exception). I never got any political meaning out of The Gerogerigegege in the first place, and actually tend to listen to them when I want to avoid music with any political/serious themes.
OK, i misunderstood. Thought you meant that cause he does anti-music he has to be anti-nationalist, antifa etc. - Yet, anyone who doesnt use political contexts doesnt mean he is apolitical. - IMO discussion about an artist's ideology is meaningless, as long as it's not included / propaganda in his work and you are annoyed by it, cant stand it. Then you can reject it and that's all, simple. Trying to find 'secret meanings' , 'hidden messages' to figure out who is what, that's a joke. Like looking for allies or enemies instead of enjoy the music, art, book.
THE GEROGERIGEGEGE / SEDEM MINUT STRACHU 2nd 7"EP
(https://img.discogs.com/cv7kIUmAQbWmyTyuSk0mNoBjMMM=/fit-in/600x562/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-16180407-1604816816-7503.jpeg.jpg)
both bands new and different recordings, limited 300 cps.
Eur 8,- plus postage
http://radokaz.blogspot.com
Quote from: Theodore on November 19, 2020, 04:39:51 AM
OK, i misunderstood. Thought you meant that cause he does anti-music he has to be anti-nationalist, antifa etc. - Yet, anyone who doesnt use political contexts doesnt mean he is apolitical. - IMO discussion about an artist's ideology is meaningless, as long as it's not included / propaganda in his work and you are annoyed by it, cant stand it. Then you can reject it and that's all, simple. Trying to find 'secret meanings' , 'hidden messages' to figure out who is what, that's a joke. Like looking for allies or enemies instead of enjoy the music, art, book.
I think it's naive to think that art is completely detached from the politics (and sexual proclivities, tastes, neuroses) of the artist. So these connections are interesting to speculate about.
Huge amounts of energy is expended on looking for secret meaning in, say, Whitehouse material and this is part of the fun.
Join Gero and support your local Antifa!
Mattin - from http://www.mattin.org/essays/THESES_ON_NOISE.html
"What the fuck is Noise?
Precisely because of its indeterminacy noise is the most sensuous human activity /
practice. To try to fix it or to make it a genre is as fucked up as believing in
democracy.
To say "this is good Noise" or "that is bad Noise" is to miss the point.
Noise without meaning nor finality is revolutionary as long as it does not support
anything or anybody..."
A book
http://www.tenstakonsthall.se/site/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Noise__Capitalism_Mattin__Anthony_Iles_eds.pdf
And of course there are others... of a different hue... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boyd_Rice
Quote from: Eloy on November 18, 2020, 11:35:56 PM
https://twitter.com/karasukiller/status/1117428998319919107
:D well so much for
that big-brain fantheory
official t-shirt on kaz rec.
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radokaz.blogspot.com (http://radokaz.blogspot.com)
I guess here's a "nice" overview of all the items you never received from Juntaro.
https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/541347433 (https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/541347433)
I wouldn't be surprised if it is somehow listed by himself.
Ironically it doesn't even include the shaking box replica which surely financed him a couple of months rent for nothing.
Also the inundow guy is listing stuff all the time most likely on behalf, like this box:
https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/b538005348 (https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/b538005348)
Maybe mirroring one's own stupidness is another "great" concept of Gero v.2. Maybe the "great" concept is the scam.
But really.... Fuck this.
I hadn't seen this before:
(https://i.imgur.com/SqFpZh0.jpg)
Found on Amazon.jp (https://www.amazon.co.jp/DEMO-001-VHS-%E3%82%AA%E3%83%A0%E3%83%8B%E3%83%90%E3%82%B9/dp/B00005IV2H).
Online translation from this page (https://jpedia.jakou.com/ob.html):
"DEMO 001 (1989, 60 minutes, 3,400 yen, limited to 300, VIDEODOROME)
Recorded live at Inkstick Shibaura Factory on March 4th of the same year. An omnibus work produced by contemporary artist Taisuke Morishita, along with The Gerogerigegege, Ecstasy, Emergency Stairs, and Yayoi Kusama."
On the webpage of one of the bands (G-Schmitt (https://sound.jp/g-schmitt/va.xhtm)) appears a different information:
"21th July '88
Live at Inkstick Shibaura"
Not listed on Discogs and I haven't found material on Youtube.
Any thoughts on the new "releases"? Aside from the cd that came out in March, there have been a series of strange "object" releases that have come out over the last year, ranging from box sets packaging tapes with dentures and pulled teeth, to, just posted today, recordings coming with broken instruments that were apparently used live.
That is perhaps as GEROGERIGEGE as the great noise things were, but I guess it is that both Gerogerigegege changed, but also world around it changed a lot. So when you got bunch of releases, that are ltd 1 copy, and image posted at social media for instant likes.... pfff.. well, all that mystery that was in flexidisc bonfire, empty c-0 tape box shakerbox and stuff like that, can not be reached. Or lets say recordings. Old 7" with audio from old reel-to-reel tape Juntaro recorded as kid. Eerie, utterly bizarre release. Fantastic to even listen to. Then some of more recent "lets make digital loops out of funk songs" and whatever... Unfortunately zero spirit what make such bizarre idea good when it also sounded good. Gero remains among favorites, but it is very clear where I don't even have to draw line of what to buy and what not. Idea of buying the new thing doesn't even cross my mind really.
I do have the 10xCD set on Urashima placed among "to be listened". That too, would have been sort of old school crazy-gero idea, unless now it is kind of one of the many CD boxsets looking the same. So if you got 10xCD box of Merzbow that is actually brilliant release, not sure is Gero such thing, or rather conceptual piece? Remains to be seen...
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on September 13, 2022, 08:47:09 AM
That is perhaps as GEROGERIGEGE as the great noise things were, but I guess it is that both Gerogerigegege changed, but also world around it changed a lot. So when you got bunch of releases, that are ltd 1 copy, and image posted at social media for instant likes.... pfff.. well, all that mystery that was in flexidisc bonfire, empty c-0 tape box shakerbox and stuff like that, can not be reached.
Not just releases either for this. Back in February, Juntaro posted some fan mail he had received asking about the whereabouts of Gero 30 to the Facebook page, but then totally ignored all the comments wondering about the same thing. Just posting the question, no answers. It's one thing when questions like that play out through zines and forums, but trying to pass it off as "mysterious" on social media doesn't work.
Indeed, I think it is a fine line, when art is being exposed in social media, and when the act of social media post is the "art" itself. For me it seems like Gerogerigegege is already in latter category, and I don't really care much for it.
Nevertheless, as a fan, I end up into Gero discussions frequently and pulling some of his favorites into stereos. Some of the stuff, appreciating now more than ever. Like lets say HOTEL ULTRA. I don't know how people hear it now, when they hear it for the first time? Senzuri Power Up, is CD I could listen probably every day, or at least every week and not get bored. It is certainly on my essential top-10 and among the most listened noise recordings of all times. When listening last track, one probably hears where Grunt sound took big part of influences. Especially the mid 90's bizarre strange Grunt era, where you'd have phonetic nonsense "sound poetry" vocals, high pitched screams, odd song titles, whatever thrown in mix, and it was most often total Gero worship...
Been listening to the Endless Humiliation a lot lately and I`m starting to lean to the thought that it might be one of the most thought provoking sound art recordings that I`ve ever listened to. Its rather fantastic how my feelings chance during the listen. First off I`m sort of embracing the absurd and taking everything in insincerely - there is clearly a drunken man shouting, singing and ranting in japanese. Then it gets musical (?) in my head in a way and I`m starting to realise that the piano + the drunken man really communicate together. After some time - around in the middle of the recording - I start to get really exsistential about the foolish drunk... projecting myself to the recording itself... Great stuff man... Just great.
Listening to Journey Into Pain 4xtape set Statutory Tape (RRR) version, which is kind of best-of collection of couple different Beast 666 compilations. There was 3 Gerogerigegege tracks, which are titled Super Mind Age, Live At Good Man, Noise. All these appear in form or another in later releases, but for example "Noise" is clearly same recording what appears on Gero-P 1985, but that is merely 1 minute long with fragment of Japanese music at beginning. The actual Noise found on Journey Into Pain comp is almost 6 minute piece, that is pretty close to what one could have expected from Incapacitants at the time. High pitched feedback and high pitched screams. Of course Juntaro had his own style of screaming and noise here is mostly broken guitar noise, but really really fierce.
Gerogerigegege certainly did recycle its best moments a lot, but it would rule to have all these Beast 666 compilation tracks done as one CD. At least 6 different compilation tapes made by label has one or more Gero tracks.
Also, I am quite surprised how among many Gero fans, very rarely Nihilist "Surfin" Group gets mentioned. But also odd that the old stuff has not been re-released that widely. Like Dutch Omanko tape. Some sort of odd Vis'a'vis tape was done in 2019, but this would honestly deserve even real CD reissue. It is pretty much as good as Gerogerigege noise is. Luckily I was in touch with Nihilistic label back in the day when it was just one of normal releases on their list. Nowadays you don't see it available. My copy I got from label has j-card printed with red xerox print. Might be that few different versions exists. You can find mentioned NSG full tape here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytaWKjHnvn4
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on November 07, 2022, 11:00:48 AM
Also, I am quite surprised how among many Gero fans, very rarely Nihilist "Surfin" Group gets mentioned. But also odd that the old stuff has not been re-released that widely. Like Dutch Omanko tape. Some sort of odd Vis'a'vis tape was done in 2019, but this would honestly deserve even real CD reissue. It is pretty much as good as Gerogerigege noise is. Luckily I was in touch with Nihilistic label back in the day when it was just one of normal releases on their list. Nowadays you don't see it available. My copy I got from label has j-card printed with red xerox print. Might be that few different versions exists.
I tried to do a reissue of this as I think it's a really great tape but Juntaro didn't want to do it.
Who will add this to their collection?
https://www.ysl.com/en-us/the-gerogerigegege-showa-813095362.html
Quote from: Eigen Bast on April 17, 2023, 09:40:32 PM
Who will add this to their collection?
https://www.ysl.com/en-us/the-gerogerigegege-showa-813095362.html
Is that a bootleg? It says it was made in France in the description?
It also just occurred to me what website is selling it. Weird. haha
Quote from: Eigen Bast on April 17, 2023, 09:40:32 PM
Who will add this to their collection?
https://www.ysl.com/en-us/the-gerogerigegege-showa-813095362.html
How odd! they seem to have a small selection of absolutely random (second hand?) vinyl including this $9000 Joseph Beuys one
https://www.ysl.com/en-us/vintage-vinyls/joseph-beuys-ja-ja-ja-nee-nee-nee-761063YCL868486.html
Love the idea of some random unwitting rich person buying a Gero record on a whim and listening to it on their overpriced designer turntable
EDIT: oh ok i guess they are listening to it on this https://hypebeast.com/2020/8/saint-laurent-rive-droite-43k-usd-pierre-riffaud-marble-vinyl-table-luxury-home-music-tech
Yesterday I was visiting a friend and he pulled out that Beuys LP. Classic art record that is high on my wantlist.
I don't think this was posted here before, but it seems that someone created an archive page for The Gerogerigegege on Youtube, as well as an accompanying Discord server: https://www.youtube.com/@TheGerogerigegegeArchive/featured