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GENERAL SOUND DISCUSSION => GENERAL SOUND DISCUSSION => Topic started by: GEWALTMONOPOL on March 03, 2010, 04:43:23 PM

Title: LAIBACH when they still mattered!
Post by: GEWALTMONOPOL on March 03, 2010, 04:43:23 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xz_PhMpFR9U

Before they became the globetrotting champagne outfit of the last 20 years. The good socialist people of Yugoslavia must have shat themselves when they saw this.
Title: Re: LAIBACH when they still mattered!
Post by: Andrew McIntosh on March 04, 2010, 12:43:40 AM
Funny, I was listening to "Laibachkunstderfuge" recently and thinking what a good album it is, better than a lot of their more recent, boogie-wonderland material.

I think the good socialist people of former Yugoslavia would well have shat themselves; the good socialist authorities and media certainly did. A lot of bad socialist, and other political and anti-political ideologies, may well have been delighted if not inspired.

Leaving personal misgivings about their current musical direction aside for a moment, though, I think Laibach have always mattered. Can't think of many other groups or projects from the same background who have had the same general impact that this group has. Musically, socially, idealistically, I would argue Laibach have made a huge impact and if they've earned their Champaign along the way, all the more power to them.
Title: Re: LAIBACH when they still mattered!
Post by: FreakAnimalFinland on May 15, 2011, 01:03:16 PM
I was looking if there was some other topic of Laibach, but didn't see any. After visiting LAIBACH latest gig, I was pretty inspired to give a chance to their later works. Gig was pretty good mix of new and old material. Not enough of old stuff (meaning the really old), but still good impact.
Last week finally got NATO and VOLK albums, and of course these are pretty slick electronic albums, but there is also very good moments. Thinking something like Alle Gegen Alle, which is pretty much dancefloor music, but it has the bizarre mix of warlike anthems.
Still waiting in line is WAT album and waiting to get the latest they did.. as well as finally the VOD 6xLP box set of old stuff. Which I hope will cover just the oldest of the works?!
Title: Re: LAIBACH when they still mattered!
Post by: tiny_tove on May 16, 2011, 09:43:23 AM
I have been a die hard fan of LAIBACH (and anything NSK) until they released Kapital, that was too electro/synthetic for my tastes.
I enjoyed a couple of tunes on Jesus Christ (but some were just unlistenable), and I have completely loved VOLK that is perfect, suits 100% what Laibach were supposed to be in visuals/texts and sounds (although with a lighter side of course).
Their latest shows were among the best I have seen in ages.
Title: Re: LAIBACH when they still mattered!
Post by: UGRA on May 19, 2011, 03:46:42 AM
Althought I am not a fan of 100% of their latest stuff, "Volk" is a great album in my opinion.
Also always interested on other NSK activities.
Title: Re: LAIBACH when they still mattered!
Post by: nyarluna on May 19, 2011, 06:00:53 PM
Here is the full documentary on LAIBACH-VICTORY UNDER THE SUN:  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDMK4kW-WGY
Title: Re: LAIBACH when they still mattered!
Post by: tiny_tove on May 20, 2011, 09:49:24 AM
Check also earlier documentaries

- Pobeda no sucem (sorry for eventual mispell)
- A film from Slovenia (first time I have seen it , it was screened on Italian left wing national tv RAI3, feature excellent analyses by Slavoj Žižek)
Title: Re: LAIBACH when they still mattered!
Post by: Strömkarlen on May 20, 2011, 10:59:43 AM
Quote from: tiny_tove on May 20, 2011, 09:49:24 AM
- A film from Slovenia (first time I have seen it , it was screened on Italian left wing national tv RAI3, feature excellent analyses by Slavoj Žižek)

I have to check that one out. I saw Predictions of Fire years ago and though flawed I remember Žižek being good in that one.

My most treasured Laibach related release is
(http://www.amokbooks.com/books/grcs/nskunst.jpg)

http://www.amokbooks.com/books/nskunst.html

Title: Re: LAIBACH when they still mattered!
Post by: FreakAnimalFinland on May 21, 2011, 09:50:55 AM
This book I always postponed buying. Until it was too late.
It's been for years on my want list.
Anyone willing to sell/trade, let me know.
Title: Re: LAIBACH when they still mattered!
Post by: FreakAnimalFinland on July 22, 2014, 02:22:24 PM
All day been listening to LAIBACH box on vinyl on demand. Have had this for years, but waited moment when I can go through entire box set at once time. Brilliant stuff. The older and more raw it gets, the better! It's too bad this material doesn't exist as moderately priced CD's?? Any time I talk to people who are disturbed by Laibach due having only heard their later days material, I can only advice to search old stuff, but conclude no records available...
I have the membership 5xLP version, but there exists also 99 copies "friends only" 6xLP box. Luckily I have the 6th LP as original tape in my collection.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQcZ4wdAaDs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sy1Sf8PZDYw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1n9kHL-RNg

etc. Brilliant stuff...

One would hope some label in style of Grey Area would have will to keep some classic stuff in print. Now even SPK cds has been looong unavailable as new CD's from labels... That VOD SPK box material on proper CD's would be great as well.
Title: Re: LAIBACH when they still mattered!
Post by: ImpulsyStetoskopu on July 22, 2014, 04:09:58 PM
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on July 22, 2014, 02:22:24 PM
All day been listening to LAIBACH box on vinyl on demand. Have had this for years, but waited moment when I can go through entire box set at once time. Brilliant stuff. The older and more raw it gets, the better! It's too bad this material doesn't exist as moderately priced CD's?? Any time I talk to people who are disturbed by Laibach due having only heard their later days material, I can only advice to search old stuff, but conclude no records available...
I have the membership 5xLP version, but there exists also 99 copies "friends only" 6xLP box. Luckily I have the 6th LP as original tape in my collection.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQcZ4wdAaDs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sy1Sf8PZDYw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1n9kHL-RNg

etc. Brilliant stuff...

One would hope some label in style of Grey Area would have will to keep some classic stuff in print. Now even SPK cds has been looong unavailable as new CD's from labels... That VOD SPK box material on proper CD's would be great as well.


The same impressions. Highly recommend item. One of the best compilation release ever.
Title: Re: LAIBACH when they still mattered!
Post by: FreakAnimalFinland on July 22, 2014, 07:47:33 PM
I kind of think this kind of bands play in different league.

Also all sorts of paperworks of music business enters the game. I'm highly irritated to deal with copyright organizations and such. Better to have big(ger) label who operate on field of music where they have distribution contracts etc. I would think someone like Cold Spring, who has already released Laibach old stuff, would be more suitable to do it.
Title: Re: LAIBACH when they still mattered!
Post by: E.D.K.W.A.R. on July 22, 2014, 08:25:02 PM
I don't own much Laibach material but i do enjoy the early shit quite a bit. OPUS DEI is a total slammer, martial pop industrial genius. My favorite cd of theirs is called "REKAPITULACIJA 1980-1984"...rhythmic metal bangin similar to early Test Dept. etc...I would reccomend it to anyone here.
Title: Re: LAIBACH when they still mattered!
Post by: tiny_tove on July 22, 2014, 09:13:01 PM
With Whitehouse (for different reasons) the most important project for my upbringing. Fullstop.
One of the very few projects who left a mark outside the underground with ACTION.
I hated the last record but they are still an important phenomenon I madly love.
Title: Re: LAIBACH when they still mattered!
Post by: 2pf cell on July 23, 2014, 12:40:38 AM
i only really know bits and bobs from their discography, from opus dei onwards (macbeth was my introduction)
but i appreciate the recent stuff
"Now you will pay" off WAT is fucking incredible: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ud_SqZvRZk
and i thot the last/recent video was something else: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6Mx2mxpaCY
Title: Re: LAIBACH when they still mattered!
Post by: Dr Alex on July 24, 2014, 12:30:33 AM
I really like old releases but I HATE crap EBM like WAT. New album is surprisingly good. Different but good pop album.
Title: Re: LAIBACH when they still mattered!
Post by: HOGRA on May 12, 2015, 02:58:54 AM
Laibach ‎"M.B. December 21, 1984" cd
Title: Re: LAIBACH when they still mattered!
Post by: eyestrain on May 14, 2015, 09:18:37 AM
Anyone witness the tour they're on yet? Will be in close proximity to a show on Sunday. Thinking about giving it a go.
Title: Re: LAIBACH when they still mattered!
Post by: icepick method on May 14, 2015, 09:15:13 PM
Is the version of M.B. December 21, 1984 any different on the VOD boxset than the old Mute/Grey Area release?
Title: Re: LAIBACH when they still mattered!
Post by: ANDROPHILIA on June 18, 2015, 11:50:07 PM
(https://scontent-mxp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-9/1380249_10152890253446765_1884809094082857058_n.jpg?oh=31c6012c75ad6d23c4aadc5e28168747&oe=55EF8A90)
It is now finally confirmed: Laibach is going to North Korea!!! In August 2015, Laibach will become the first such band ever to perform in the secretive Democratic People's Republic of Korea, a reclusive garrison state as well-known for its military marches, mass gymnastics and hymns to the Great Leader, as for its defiant resistance to Western popular culture. The concerts are currently scheduled for the 19th and 20th of August.

some opinion about this?


Title: Re: LAIBACH when they still mattered!
Post by: Andrew McIntosh on June 19, 2015, 12:36:41 AM
Hope they're playing with the mighty Moranbong Band.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERLaZ488I6k (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERLaZ488I6k)
Title: Re: LAIBACH when they still mattered!
Post by: F_c_O on June 19, 2015, 12:57:00 AM
I hope they bring some footage from the event as a proof.

edit: nvm, read this from their website: 'The concerts will also be subject of a documentary film scheduled for premiere in 2016.'

I think this has potential to be quite awesome event.
Title: Re: LAIBACH when they still mattered!
Post by: ANDROPHILIA on June 19, 2015, 01:04:45 AM
http://www.side-line.com/laibachs-north-korean-tour-divides-fans/
Title: Re: LAIBACH when they still mattered!
Post by: F_c_O on June 19, 2015, 01:52:27 AM
>Weird that Laibach goes protesting against something that took place over 70 years ago, yet shows no criticism whatsoever to the current tyranny reigning in North Korea.

quote from: http://www.side-line.com/laibach-plays-concert-dates-in-north-korea-its-not-a-joke/

in a way, interesting to question their motivations for the move because I personally automatically took it as just another provocation and maybe laibach's way to bring revolutionary music and message to people who generally aren't allowed to hear such things at all costs.
Title: Re: LAIBACH when they still mattered!
Post by: Andrew McIntosh on June 19, 2015, 02:55:03 AM
Whatever their motivations, you can be sure winding up the regime will be among them. And, I dare say, curiosity and genuine interest.

I also don't doubt they'll be under severe restrictions. Not just access to the rest of the country outside of their hotel rooms and "escorted" tours of the city, but in what can and can't be said and performed. I wonder if they take that as an aesthetic challenge.

For years, people whinged about Laibach being "Nazis". Maybe they just miss the good old days of controversy.

And maybe they're just in it for the money. All that counterfeit US lucre must count for something.
Title: Re: LAIBACH when they still mattered!
Post by: ANDROPHILIA on June 19, 2015, 03:00:06 AM
but which are the hidden audience for laibach in North Korea??
epic operation anyway..

this story remind me the popular movie of seth rogen and james franco "the interview" :D
(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQGwuuDmZW7JmVOiK3e859_gA1Zg_MeLeRnouebbR0SvJelpXT1)
Title: Re: LAIBACH when they still mattered!
Post by: tiny_tove on June 19, 2015, 09:32:16 AM
"Daaaveeeee"

Anyway very curious what they are going to do. Laibach have been always keen on provocation and brefriending weirdos. In Italy they played for left wing organizations, while playing on the same tour for right wing organizations in France.
That is going to be very interesting.
Title: Re: LAIBACH when they still mattered!
Post by: C601 on June 19, 2015, 05:28:38 PM
Hoping for a tour DVD of this
Title: Re: LAIBACH when they still mattered!
Post by: Cementimental on June 29, 2015, 06:49:16 PM
guys they're going to be performing songs from The Sound of Music :D

https://www.facebook.com/Laibach/photos/a.10150477788296765.361570.11029356764/10152962027016765/?type=1

QuoteLAIBACH - THE SOUND OF MUSIC,
August 19th & 20th 2015, Pyongyang, North Korea

Artwork by People's Design Bureau

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Join Laibach's 35th Anniversary on July 4th 2015 in their native town of Trbovlje, at the Delavski dom Trbovlje (Workers Home) cultural center. The program will include material from the upcoming North Korean Liberation Day Tour in August, for which Laibach is reinterpreting the actual songs from the Sound of Music musical (The Sound of Music, Do-Re-Mi, Climb Every Mountain and Edelweiss). On top of it Laibach will also perform selected Korean historic and popular songs. More info: http://www.laibach.org/35th-anniversary/

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/timdrage/10557701_10152962027016765_7928314250770225734_o_zpsjtk2kzyg.jpg)

this is incredible.
Title: Re: LAIBACH when they still mattered!
Post by: tiny_tove on June 29, 2015, 07:50:20 PM
I want those posters
Title: Re: LAIBACH when they still mattered!
Post by: Andrew McIntosh on June 30, 2015, 04:58:23 AM
It's official. Reality is disappearing up it's own arse.
Title: Re: LAIBACH when they still mattered!
Post by: tiny_tove on August 20, 2015, 10:47:35 AM
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-33995268

the faces of the people are priceless. (while the gig looks meh).
Title: Re: LAIBACH when they still mattered!
Post by: HongKongGoolagong on August 20, 2015, 04:27:35 PM
Quote from: tiny_tove on August 20, 2015, 10:47:35 AM
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-33995268

the faces of the people are priceless. (while the gig looks meh).

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2015/08/20/uk-northkorea-southkorea-border-idUKKCN0QP0PC20150820 - the typical Laibach butterfly effect, I hope they are proud of themselves!
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Post by: tiny_tove on August 20, 2015, 09:11:47 PM
ahahha
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Post by: Nil By Mouth on August 21, 2015, 09:24:54 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3203427/The-bizarre-concert-Fascist-style-Slovak-rock-group-western-band-perform-North-Korea-played-Sound-Music-covers-audience-expected-sit-quietly-clap-politely-right-places.html

This morning titles said 'slovak rock group'
Title: Re: LAIBACH when they still mattered!
Post by: cantle on August 23, 2015, 06:03:44 PM
http://warisboring.com/articles/what-the-hell-is-laibach-doing-in-north-korea/

^ an interesting take here- the John Oliver sketch isn't bad either
Title: Re: LAIBACH when they still mattered!
Post by: tiny_tove on August 26, 2015, 01:54:24 PM
https://www.facebook.com/groups/942490249146128/
Title: Re: LAIBACH when they still mattered!
Post by: Dr Alex on August 26, 2015, 04:10:18 PM
Quote from: tiny_tove on August 26, 2015, 01:54:24 PM
https://www.facebook.com/groups/942490249146128/

Bunch of pointless freaks who have too much time to waste.
Laibach rules and I totally support their North Korean gigs.
Title: Re: LAIBACH when they still mattered!
Post by: andy vomit on August 26, 2015, 08:24:04 PM
Quote from: tiny_tove on August 26, 2015, 01:54:24 PM
https://www.facebook.com/groups/942490249146128/

is that frank/MILITIA?  he's been on a fucking tear about this for months, selling off all his laibach merch and donating the money to anti-fascist groups, etc..  last i knew he sold precisely zero of his merchandise.
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Post by: bitewerksMTB on August 26, 2015, 11:29:39 PM
I caught a bit on CNN about the performance. It mentioned that the gov. didn't allow some of the songs & backing video.

John Oliver is awful.
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Post by: cantle on August 27, 2015, 01:54:34 AM
I thought it was a great piece of subtle trolling by Laibach if anything... then I've never been one who believed in the "no platform" type ideologies either so I'm not going to sell the little Laibach shit I own....

...John Oliver is alright but I'm a Brit....
Title: Re: LAIBACH when they still mattered!
Post by: burdizzo on March 17, 2020, 12:04:59 AM
Did anyone here get the Laibach 'Revisited' box?? Very tempting indeed, but just wondering what the "revisitations" are like. Would hate to discover the originals have been somehow 'ruined'.
Title: Re: LAIBACH when they still mattered!
Post by: Neithan on June 10, 2020, 12:21:35 PM
Quote from: burdizzo on March 17, 2020, 12:04:59 AM
Did anyone here get the Laibach 'Revisited' box?? Very tempting indeed, but just wondering what the "revisitations" are like. Would hate to discover the originals have been somehow 'ruined'.

Yes, I have it, the vinyl version. The release is great. Revisited album - you can hear now these versions on youtube / spotify etc. In the box there is also original version of debut album and amazing live 'Underground' - recorded in 2012 in Velenje Coal Mines. I love this, very primitive oldschool material.
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Post by: burdizzo on June 15, 2020, 01:33:23 PM
In the end I, too, forked out for the vinyl version. Of course, it's the old stuff is still great, and I also like what was recorded 'Underground' very much, but I was sort of 50/50 about the revisited material. Some is good, but other parts seem too 'slick' and polished. Maybe too over-produced, or just plainly too 'modern'!! But the book is nice. Of course, it was expensive, and if I could have got the VoD box at the time, I think it might have been better value.