I can't be the only person here who enjoys wallowing in the output of the most insane conspiracy theorists around today. Read Robert Anton Wilson in my teens but I guess the interest in the real fringe material started when I obtained a copy of 'Trance Formation of America' by Cathy O'Brien during the 90s - a woman who claimed she and her daughter were used as programmed sex slaves for the elite.
Two of my favourites:
http://www.dataasylum.com/index.html - he's a little vague about the details of who is doing it but this provides a startling unified explanation of all the strangeness in the world today - also works as a film list!
Emily Gyde - innumerable websites dating back to 2006, just Google the name - if taken as one long book her writings must surely be one of the most ambitious works of semi-autobiography ever attempted. Try http://www.royalarchcrumbles.blogspot.com as an intriguing entry point.
NB in the interests of sanity: these links are provided for entertainment purposes only.
big fan of david icke's writings. too stupid, but absolutely entertaining.
Loved the Jon Ronson's documentary series "Them"...
In Italy we have this moron on Tv named Adam Kadmon who is spreading absolutely demented material mixing several theories.
from the BioAPI site.
"Early in the video Lady Gaga kisses some guy. On his right shoulder is a tattoo of a hornet which apparently is symbolic of the devil in Jewish culture or something. Then later on in the movie after some dancing (transforming?) they flash the picture to the right, her head is a telephone. Telephone = BioAPI."
Oh man, that's classic shit. TELEPHONE=BioAPI ! ! ! !
Watch out!
Rauni-Leena Luukkanen-Kilde is probably the most famous finnish conspiracy theory "lunatic"? Pretty basic stuff, microchips inserted into humans through swine flu vaccinations, Breivik was controlled by microchip etc.. Shame that there is not much about her in english.
It's pretty easy to dismiss David Icke as his books are so badly sourced and reprint the ravings of the crazies he thinks are good sources.
However tonight I was at a lecture by Professor Dawn Archer who's a highly regarded and very mainstream academic dealing with journalism, framing of news stories and corpus linguistics - she used the 'problem/reaction/solution' paradigm popularised by Icke 20 years ago while addressing the language of power and how masses are manipulated. Pretty cool that she also had huge blow-up headlines of Karen Matthews, Rose West, Jon Venables and Myra Hindley in the lecture theatre to illustrate the 'Othering' procedure used in journalism, especially News International.
I've been in to that sort of stuff since also reading Robert Anton Wilson, Kerry Wendell Thornley, Subgenius stuff, etc. in junior high school but for some reason I can never remember details about any of the stuff I've read. It just exits my brain as soon as I'm done reading it. I've only recently come to understand KWT's "Step-Brother" thing, despite having read his explanations over and over again.
I have the same problem with horribly bad science-fiction novels. I really enjoy reading them, but when I'm finished one, don't ask for a detailed account of what I just read.
Quote from: tiny_tove on June 21, 2012, 05:14:27 PMbig fan of david icke's writings. too stupid, but absolutely entertaining.
I remember a friend of mine, someone I once knew from the anarchist scene, talking to me over the phone about this bloke's "theories" without actually naming him. He referred to what he called "the invisible, humanoid, shape-shifting reptiles who live in the centre of the Earth". When I asked him point blank if he believed that guff he said "I wont say it's true and I wont say it's not true". He used to do a lot of drugs.
Lecture I attended from Dr.Steven Jones fired from Brown university for publishing about his "findings" regarding 9/11 breaking the laws of physics, more about "nanothermite powder" found in rubble and constantly referring to "Ground Zero" as a "Crime Scene." Interesting to say the least. No doubt in my mind that there were some sketchy things happening on that day regardless of who believes what. The person who filmed this video was somehow unaware of the camera squeaking.
part1:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4P_P8kWuQ8
part2:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLHYcexpwxk&feature=relmfu
part3:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLG4W6iHBWI&feature=relmfu
As it was a full lecture, it goes on and on to 11 parts.
From the radical anti-psychiatry/critical psychiatry field: http://www.peter-lehmann-publishing.com/books/beyond-belief.pdf - see page 30 onwards, strategies for coping with beliefs about alien abduction, spiritual experiences and telepathy. The author Tamasin Knight is a medical doctor.
A very bizarre and unintentionally funny interview with an alien abductee - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGKiHj5qvn0
Not sure whether to start a separate thread for this as isn't directly about "crackpot" theories but certainly ties in:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEWTrYB-ERA&feature=related
Possible explanations include tectonic plate shifting, UFOs, CERN and HAARP to name a few - the latter I find very interesting having read more into it. Having shown the videos to my wife, we both agreed that the kind of sounds mirror what we ourselves have heard late at night whilst having a cigarette in the garden but have been unable to explain.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Frequency_Active_Auroral_Research_Program
http://www.haarp.net/
Quote from: martialgodmask on June 22, 2012, 03:55:06 PM
Not sure whether to start a separate thread for this as isn't directly about "crackpot" theories but certainly ties in:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEWTrYB-ERA&feature=related
Possible explanations include tectonic plate shifting, UFOs, CERN and HAARP to name a few - the latter I find very interesting having read more into it. Having shown the videos to my wife, we both agreed that the kind of sounds mirror what we ourselves have heard late at night whilst having a cigarette in the garden but have been unable to explain.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Frequency_Active_Auroral_Research_Program
http://www.haarp.net/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sG9Mjx-Ca-M&feature=related
A better video actually, more focused on the prophetic side of the coin.
Quote from: martialgodmask on June 22, 2012, 03:55:06 PM
Not sure whether to start a separate thread for this as isn't directly about "crackpot" theories
Well of course some theories may well be true. There is a whole lot we are not made aware of especially in the military world - see the patch gallery at http://www.american-buddha.com/icouldtellyou.1.htm and following pages.
A thread for both entertaining crazies and obscure information then.
Quote from: HongKongGoolagong on June 22, 2012, 05:01:24 PM
Quote from: martialgodmask on June 22, 2012, 03:55:06 PM
Not sure whether to start a separate thread for this as isn't directly about "crackpot" theories
Well of course some theories may well be true. There is a whole lot we are not made aware of especially in the military world - see the patch gallery at http://www.american-buddha.com/icouldtellyou.1.htm and following pages.
A thread for both entertaining crazies and obscure information then.
Very interesting link, thank you for that.
regarding unconventional war -or at least its bright side - a must to read:
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Qz7BKte8aNM/SwF-1Vx91TI/AAAAAAAAA5A/qSGnQrA676U/s1600/the-men-who-stare-at-goats-book.jpg)
and the related documentaries featuring extensive material on the glorious FIRST EARTH BATTALLION, new age applied to warfare
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Film/Pix/pictures/2009/11/2/1257174557027/Jim-Channons-First-Earth--001.jpg)
the movie was quite lame
https://wikispooks.com/ISGP/dutroux/Belgian_X_dossiers_victims_and_witnesses.htm for one of the more plausible pieces of research on a very controversial topic. The sheer amount of trouble the author has had struggling to keep the site online speaks for itself.
The Men Who Stare At Goats is a wonderful read. The mysterious "Ron" referred to in there by Uri Geller and others has been very recently exposed as the CIA's Ron Pandolfi. http://www.starpod.org/news/1001151.htm
"Pay it all back"
haarpresearchandapplications.pdf
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:L2DSmAcs8l8J:trinityatierra.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/haarpresearchandapplications.pdf+the+uses+of+haarp&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESj_XjsiQzDFRbASHJY5YRLgwHYmQ99qJ4tGh7uQjUvC-jnwk9Q9mpOe-6xVFChirChbCSt5yfgVmbkQvZDbWR0NsM_Fjm473-fuOLMB14XqLF4dGypM-YMRM71R09tXbYDqedRH&sig=AHIEtbRnzHkWal_VDl72abgJIXee7ZnHig&pli=1
Thanks for the patch gallery link.
Concerning the Dutroux/Victims: what kind of trouble has he had keeping it online?
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on June 24, 2012, 01:20:59 AM
Concerning the Dutroux/Victims: what kind of trouble has he had keeping it online?
See http://wikispooks.com/wiki/ISGP_Archive
Quote from: Mikerdeath on June 22, 2012, 06:29:03 AM
Lecture I attended from Dr.Steven Jones fired from Brown university for publishing about his "findings" regarding 9/11 breaking the laws of physics, more about "nanothermite powder" found in rubble and constantly referring to "Ground Zero" as a "Crime Scene." Interesting to say the least. No doubt in my mind that there were some sketchy things happening on that day regardless of who believes what.
https://www.google.com/search?q=bbc+9%2F11+cancer&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
http://openchannel.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/09/11/13809524-evidence-piles-up-that-bush-administration-got-many-pre-911-warnings?lite
Not trying to re-hash this topic, im not a person who follows conspiracy theories, I just want to follow up with my previous post with two articles.
9/11 is already like the JFK assassination - you could spend the rest of your life finding weird anomalies and driving yourself nuts.
The youtube preview of a supposed full-length film insulting Islam which has coincided with attacks on American embassies in Egypt and Libya has been in the news. And after reading this article, the only thread it could go in here is conspiracy theories:
http://www.onthemedia.org/blogs/on-the-media/2012/sep/12/religious-references-innocence-muslims-dubbed/
Popular Mechanics magazine & National Geographic did excellant pieces debunking the 9/11 conspiracy theories.
Someone should do a documentary about "Professor" Griff. The bloke's hilarious. Have a look at one of his many rants on YouTube.
RIP Andrew Rowland aka infamous conspiracy messageboard insurrectionist Anders7777, whose thread on Jimmy Savile at David Icke has topped four million views and whose writings got godlikeproductions.com hacked by an intelligence agency a number of years ago.
Obituaries: http://lunaticoutpost.com/Topic-For-those-who-knew-the-poster-called-Anders?page=1
http://www.proxywhore.com/invboard/index.php?showtopic=271311&st=0
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=232417
Checked out that Jimmy Saville thread a while ago, only made it through about ten pages though. I'll revisit it and check out those other links as well. Pretty great stuff.
I don't remember where I saw it but there's a theory than the CT shooter was part of a sleeper cell/psywarfare deal in order to get more gun control measures passed by the Government.
This seems like a nice place for my first post. Hi.
Yeah it looks like Obama is trying to get Americans to disarm. Because it is obvious that dismantling gun law in the only country to be so completely obsessed with their right to own and use them is the final step towards rendering the whole of humankind defenseless and susceptible to a brutal imposition of totalitarian power. Never mind how much of the rest of the world already copes without household firearms, or the amount of other weaponry that can be accessed or made.
A staggering lack of critical thinking is the true undoing of most conspiracy theory, not the oppression of some hidden hand. A palpable culture seems to have developed around assuming some kind of structural evil must be behind every single world event yet none of the creative energy put into the supposed uncovering of this stuff ever appears to be channeled into questioning whether issues that effect life in America really translate into a fucking thing outside of that country.
http://leavingalexjonestown.blogspot.co.uk/ is an excellent critical resource on Jones. What a buffoon he is.
Rigorous Intuition (http://rigint.blogspot.co.uk for the blog, no new articles for ages but some good reading. Messageboard is at http://rigorousintuition.ca with a handful of hardcore posters still active with varying degrees of interestingess/nuttiness) was a favorite of mine when I was still into this stuff back in the day (before it was cool hah) but I'm SO SICK of the 99.999...% garbage that is the conspiracy theory internet scene now, I burned out with too many utterly futile arguments with moon hoax and 9/11 guys over the years and in the process pretty much debunked myself on every popular theory.
http://davefromqueens2.blogspot.co.uk/2010/02/theresa-duncan-story-solved.html is a good article about the dangerous effect that the material rigint deals with had on a fragile person.
With wild-eyed conspiracy crazy sites, often the ARGs or wondering what the fuck you have found are the only fun part.There are a lot of strange and unexplained anomalies made by pranksters and professional trolls. Try searching for the T-Cell Gondii Network or TAPSCEO if you think your computer is safe or if you don't care anyway.
Truthers definitely are the worst. I like that old time Masonic/Illuminati mind control stuf, but in the eighteen or so years that I've been reading that kind of stuff, not much has ever stuck with me, though maybe that's PART OF THEIR PLOY!
I guess I like the idea of that kind of stuff a lot more than the actual material.
I'm more into collecting xeroxed flyers/wall posters/communiques that schizophrenic people post around town than any sort of "official" conspiracy theories, but it tends to be more just whacky Christianity than conspiracy per se. I just got some crazy booklets by a christian on welfare who was mad that his friend wouldn't lend him any "dead trees" to get his haircut, and how his barber was really mad that he had to wait until the end of the month. Apparently, "between tomorrow she would not be "spending them" (i.e. USING THEM TO TAKE OPTIMISTIC ADVANTAGE OF OTHERS SLAVERY) in the meantime anyway!"
Mostly just a lot of ranting about "dead trees sitting in their banks", which he also calls "wooden devils taken out of a GD GREED MACHINE" (there are atms here called TD Green Machines) mixed with biblical verse and horribly drawn pictures of who i can only assume is jesus. Four stapled booklets that are mostly repetitive, but feature different aspects of how money is ruining his life.
Quote from: Jordan on January 24, 2013, 05:17:19 AM
I'm more into collecting xeroxed flyers/wall posters/communiques that schizophrenic people post around town than any sort of "official" conspiracy theories,
There's some pretty intense ones in my area, this guy who runs some semblance of a barber's shop flyposts in-depth screeds over the shop front and around the neighborhood:
http://everyoneindalstonisweird.com/post/8085553289/ive-been-meaning-to-post-these-for-ages-these
I've seen this lady about town too:
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/34712_426073124130358_1060874417_n.jpg)
Having been a Discordian (and Subgenii) for most of my life, I find Kerry Wendell Thornley's all out crazy conspiracy theory stuff kind of sad, although, under the circumstances, I can surely understand what led him there. At times he was an intelligent, funny, and charming man, even long after his complete disconnect with reality. He could also be a jerk, for instance, he banished his son from his deathbedside because he wasn't laughing at his jokes, and ended up pretty miserably, especially at the very end.
Anyway, I've been rereading the Confession to Conspiracy to Assassinate JFK thing that Sondra London put together, and thought I'd post it here. I really didn't like what she was doing with him, found it very exploitive, but I could never really piece together the story from the scattered issues of The Decadent Worker that I had, and other sources. Pretty crazy stuff. All that stuff inspired me to read The Report Of The Warren Commission as a young teen, and I think that it's probably pretty accurate, though I'll admit that it's probably pretty likely that Oswald was crazy and put up to it by Mafioso types. I have a schizophrenic friend who believed that he was a Russian Mafia/KGB agent who got pretty close with some HAs and did some crazy things for them, and I'm pretty sure that's a pretty big thing in organized crime, you know, to get crazy people to do things so if they testify against them, they'll be pretty easy to discredit. Anyway, the "book" or whatever is here: http://sondralondon.com/tales/confess/index.htm
There's also this: http://totse2.com/totse/en/conspiracy/institutional_analysis/thornlet.html - which deals with his belief that he was the product of Nazi Vril society breeding programs. Incidentally, TOTSE first hacker groups I got interested in in the post-Commodore 64 days (which ran pretty late for me) and they provided me with all sorts of wonderful information about phreaking, much of which still worked in the small town with a local telephone service provider who hadn't modernized at all that I grew up in. It's also how I found information for one of my stepfathers on how to build a still, which resulted in the deaths and blindings of a friends relatives two towns over. Great stuff.
Sondra London being exploitative again - well there's a surprise.
Kerry Thornley's ramblings are pretty sad, although Norman Mailer in his excellent and definitive book on Lee Harvey Oswald "Oswald's Tale" treats Thornley's testimony on LHO with respect and seriousness - like anyone who looks at the JFK case, Mailer is himself bewildered and the book has no real conclusion, just presents all sorts of mysterious facts on his life.
Is there a possibility Discordianism can open one up to dark and hidden currents? In Robert Anton Wilson's "The Cosmic Trigger" a series of strange coincidences, synchronicities and low-level murky magic lead horrifyingly yet it seems inevitably to the murder of the author's daughter. A very sad story. While I carry a POEE Pope card in my wallet myself which always gives cops a laugh, I don't trust that crazy bitch Eris one bit. Hell I'd trust "Bob" above her!
'We have just received incredible expirience from one of our listeners, that in date was attacked by demonic reptilian entities'
http://youtu.be/BX7sUkgsK3k
Quote from: HongKongGoolagong on February 04, 2013, 05:57:26 PM
Is there a possibility Discordianism can open one up to dark and hidden currents? In Robert Anton Wilson's "The Cosmic Trigger" a series of strange coincidences, synchronicities and low-level murky magic lead horrifyingly yet it seems inevitably to the murder of the author's daughter. A very sad story. While I carry a POEE Pope card in my wallet myself which always gives cops a laugh, I don't trust that crazy bitch Eris one bit. Hell I'd trust "Bob" above her!
Having taken my Discordianism fairly semi-seriously in my younger days, I must admit that all of my experiences in that realm, via discordian meditation and general "surfin' on synchronicity" kind of stuff were pretty all around positive, except for perhaps precipitating an even further disconnect with reality, which I guess is kind of good and bad.
I wouldn't trust "Bob" for shit. I had a lot of big fights on the Subgenius IRC channel many years ago with Ivan Stang, and I can't stand most of the people in charge of the church nowadays. At least 5-6 years ago, I guy I knew vaguely from my time in Hamilton was a pretty high up on account of doing web design for them. I love the stuff from the early eighties, which is unfortunately way before my time, and I've been an official member since '96 or so, but yeah, it's been a pretty dismal scene forever. I almost attended an X-Day Drill once, but some unfortunate events popped up and got in the way. In the end, I'm pretty glad I ended up missing it.
I'd forgotten this one but unbelievably it's still being linked to by people who find it plausible and David Icke has included it as an appendix in one of his recent books. The story seems to be that this text was written by someone with an extremely dark and mischievous sense of humour who then sent it to a group of Australian conspiratards who had a bee in their bonnet about Crowley and the OTO ten years ago.
http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid=126&contentid=6566&page=2 - here are the best bits:
Any form of bizarre sexual congress is explored and encouraged because atrophied tastes need stronger stimulation. Children, the elderly, the mentally retarded and desperate are used at satanic ceremonies throughout the world. The left hand path caters for all tastes and responds to all needs.
In Australia and throughout what used to be the Soviet Union, Downs Syndrome pornography is an expanding market and an acquired taste.
Approximately one new D.V.D. – like The Gangbang of Mary Mongoloid Series (1998-2001) or Downer Syndrome Follies I-II (2001-2003) - hits the underground market every couple of months.
The Order of the Toilet is a traditional left hand path initiatory body whose members adhere to the largely neglected latrine doctrines of the Vama Marga. Order members are encouraged to engage in Bathroom practices as often as possible and no less than daily. The teachings and ordeals of the Outer O.o.t.T. are divided into the categories of the Champagne and the Caviar initiations.
The Order of the Toilet seeks to inculcate within its membership and the wider world, a cultivated love for and re-establishment of the hitherto secret magick of the night-soil tradition of the Western Sinister current.
Priceless. I think most of this Satanic planet 'engages in Bathroom practises' daily. The prankster in question also managed to further wind up highly weird US conspiracy theorist Henry Makow - http://www.henrymakow.com/satanist_insider.html Satanist Hints Oz PM is "Toilet Vampiress" is a headline straight from the Illuminatus trilogy.
not 100% conspiracy theory, but analyzes mass hysteria rsulting fron non-scientific activism.
Windfarm sickness spreads by word of mouth, Australian study finds
Health complaints from people living around turbines shown to be psychological effect of anti-wind lobby making people worry
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Windfarms do not cause illness, other than the alarm spread by opponents, Australian study finds
Windfarms do not cause illness, other than the alarm spread by opponents, an Australian study has found. Photograph: Danny Lawson/PA
Sickness being attributed to wind turbines is more likely to have been caused by people getting alarmed at the health warnings circulated by activists, an Australian study has found.
Complaints of illness were far more prevalent in communities targeted by anti-windfarm groups, said the report's author, Simon Chapman, professor of public health at Sydney University. His report concludes that illnesses being blamed on windfarms are more than likely caused by the psychological effect of suggestions that the turbines make people sick, rather than by the turbines themselves.
"If windfarms were intrinsically unhealthy or dangerous in some way, we would expect to see complaints applying to all of them, but in fact there is a large number where there have been no complaints at all," Chapman said.
The report, which is the first study of the history of complaints about windfarms in Australia, found that 63% had never been subject to noise or health complaints. In the state of Western Australia, where there are 13 windfarms, there have been no complaints.
The study shows that the majority of complaints (68%) have come from residents near five windfarms that have been heavily targeted by opponent groups. The report says more than 80% of complaints about health and noise began after 2009 when the groups "began to add health concerns to their wider opposition".
"In the preceding years health or noise complaints were rare despite large and small turbined wind farms having operated for many years," it says.
According to Chapman, when wind farms started being built in Australia about 20 years ago some of the anti-wind lobby was driven by people who simply did not like the look of them.
"Then in about 2009 things started ramping up and these people discovered if you started saying it was a health problem, a lot more people would sit up and pay attention. It's essentially a sociological phenomenon," he said.
Giving the illness a name like "wind turbine syndrome" and "vibro-acoustic disease" had been a key feature in its spread, Chapman said. He accepted that some people genuinely felt ill but "where you set up an expectation in people that something in their environment is noxious, that can translate into an expression of symptoms".
The findings run against the claims of the Waubra Foundation, a national group that opposes windfarms and says serious medical conditions have been identified in people living, working or visiting within six miles (10km) of wind turbine developments. The group says the onset of conditions including sleep deprivation, hypertension, heart attacks and depression correspond directly with the operation of the windfarms.
Waubra chief executive officer, Sarah Laurie says illnesses resulting from exposure to windfarms is "an inconvenient truth".
"There's been an attitude that the people who are getting sick are collateral damage," she said.
"People are not getting sick because someone tells them they're going to become unwell. They're waking up in the middle of the night and suffering from sleep deprivation because something is waking them up."
Laurie, who trained as a rural GP, says it's important that more research is done so we have a better understanding of exactly what's going on.
"No evidence doesn't mean no problem. It means the evidence hasn't been collected because the research hasn't been done," she said.
Chapman said that if wind farms did genuinely make people ill there would by now be a large body of medical evidence that would preclude putting them near inhabited areas. Eighteen reviews of the research literature on wind turbines and health published since 2003 had all reached the broad conclusion that there was very little evidence they were directly harmful to health.
Chapman cited a recent New Zealand study that exposed 60 healthy volunteers to both real and fake low-frequency noise, similar to what is produced by wind turbines and is sometimes known as infrasound. Half of the volunteers were shown television documentaries about health problems associated with wind turbines before they listened to the low-frequency noise; the other half were not. They were then played a mixture of noises. Those who had seen the videos about the adverse affects reported higher levels of symptoms whether exposed to the genuine or fake audio samples.
In spite of results like this, complaints from some living near wind turbines persist. David Mortimer is a beef and cattle farmer in the South Australian of Millicent, 400km south east of Adelaide. Wind turbines were built on his farm in 2004.
"Mostly I've had sleep-related problems," he said. "At night I get a deep rumbling sensation in my head which makes it hard to get to sleep. I also get a pulsing in my heat that does not correlate to my heartbeat. It gives me an acute sense of anxiety and arythmia that goes on for days."
Mortimer said he sleeps well when he's away from the farm, when the silence in his head at night is "absolutely profound".
"As soon as we come back the symptoms reappear," he said. "A lot of people like me are complaining but politicians and wind farm companies are not listening."
An application for 160 new turbines has been approved to be built on his neighbour's property. Seventeen of them will be visible from Mortimer's house and within 3.5kms of his home.
Boston Bombings was, of course, by the Government:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=axQtAFtmtVA
And what about the fertilizer plant?
Anonymous & Alex Jones have different suspects than the FBI:
http://www.infowars.com/breaking-police-confirm-infowars-photos-of-boston-suspects/
http://www.fbi.gov/news/updates-on-investigation-into-multiple-explosions-in-boston/updates-on-investigation-into-multiple-explosions-in-boston
Of course, none of the men in 'Navy SEALS' caps are suspects who, I bet, were at the fertilizer plant too.
Nah, it was "left wing radical students". Our own Jones has solved the case.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLYdUHVdd3w (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLYdUHVdd3w)
http://www.ibtimes.com/4chan-false-flag-conspiracy-theory-predicts-boston-marathon-bombing-arrest-friday-1202073
http://www.ibtimes.com/tamerlan-tsarnaev-death-photo-surfaces-autopsy-picture-reddit-slain-boston-bombing-suspect-no-1
Interestingly for an NSFW image, the second article link it twice I think, maybe they really want it to be seen?
It's CGI:
https://twitter.com/J_tsarSupport/status/326304209630806016/photo/1
http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2013/04/cult-of-tsarnaev/
Eerie 9/11 premonitions in album artwork:
(http://www.quofataferunt.com/images/stories/11/supertramp-911.jpg)
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_xcUskQ-VRTI/SNCT9wVylwI/AAAAAAAAA2k/W7BLCOa6yP0/s400/600px-TheCoupCoverLarge%2BParty%2BMusic.jpg)
And drive yourself insane by thinking about everything at this gallery: http://s616.photobucket.com/user/cartamandua/library/911%20Coincidences%20and%20Synchronicity%20in%20ART
One they missed was Ramleh 'Be Careful What You Wish For'. Opening track 'The New York Conning Tower', date above Anne Frank cover photo: SEPT 11.
"The Israeli Mossad was responsible for the 9/11 hijackers:"
https://search.wikileaks.org/gifiles/?viewemailid=1332210
Is Angela Merkel Adolf Hitler's biological daughter ?
http://www.helpfreetheearth.com/news501_Merkel.html
Various other web sites and youtibe vids
Quote from: RyanWreck on August 28, 2013, 07:12:39 PM
"The Israeli Mossad was responsible for the 9/11 hijackers:"
https://search.wikileaks.org/gifiles/?viewemailid=1332210
a classic of conspiracy freaks regarding 9/11 is the false claim that all jews working in the buildings were asked to stay home on that day.
http://www.prabhupada.org.uk/sp_poisoned/sp_poisoned.htm
Founder of Krishna movement poisoned by agents of the illuminati (LOL)
more : http://www.harekrsna.org/
Quote from: tiny_tove on January 13, 2014, 05:11:41 PM
http://www.prabhupada.org.uk/sp_poisoned/sp_poisoned.htm
Founder of Krishna movement poisoned by agents of the illuminati (LOL)
more : http://www.harekrsna.org/
The internecine power struggles with the Hare Krsna movement are always incredibly entertaining. I had a (free) subscription to "Back to Praphupada" magazine and it was the best thing to read while taking a nice long shit.
http://www.unabombers.com/
Some good stuff there!
The Ebola-Hoax or the Ebo-Lie...
http://www.jimstonefreelance.com/ebolie.html
https://missiongalacticfreedom.wordpress.com/2013/12/27/large-hadron-collider-exposed-the-stargate-of-shiva/
best conspiracy theory ever!!!
Concave earth theory. I've never seen anyone else that believes this, but I'm sure they are many. We live on the inside of the earth, and god is inside a celestial octahedron. The sun is flat. The stars are tiny.
Watching this idiot draw is kind of hypnotizing though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDSS5k-105M
Some recent conspiracy loonies are really behind the ball. There's a few stupid "reptilian" vids on YouTube that make a huge deal out of obviously out-of-focus video snippets, claiming them to be "proof" that there are people who are actually lizards. Surprisingly low intelligence even from this mob.
Lately I've been looking at a few Farrakhan videos and finding some interesting sample potential. He's recently banged on about Dianetics, for example. He doesn't seem to mind what he borrows from. What's interesting is there seems to be a lot of Black Americans who are circulating blatantly obvious conspiracy stuff and believing in it. Some interesting conclusions to draw from that I'd say.
Quote from: tiny_tove on November 11, 2014, 09:32:24 AM
https://missiongalacticfreedom.wordpress.com/2013/12/27/large-hadron-collider-exposed-the-stargate-of-shiva/
best conspiracy theory ever!!!
Ha that's superb, thanks for sharing :)
i have this blog http://oldschoolconspiracytheories.tumblr.com/ (http://oldschoolconspiracytheories.tumblr.com/) that i use to collect old conspiracy theory 'documentaries' and maybe you guys would find something interesting here. it's almost all pre-9/11 stuff, like bill cooper at area 51, MKULTRA mind control, david icke, etc.
Quote from: theotherjohn on November 11, 2014, 02:12:34 PM
When I visited Harlem in New York a few years ago, I remember being awestruck by how many street stalls were set up selling NWO/conspiracy theory DVDs - seems like those who were once touting the 5% are now touting the 99%...
Nah, it's just that the sterling work done by Rza and the gang leaves people to move on to other issues :D
Quote from: Cementimental on November 11, 2014, 03:42:18 PM
Quote from: tiny_tove on November 11, 2014, 09:32:24 AM
https://missiongalacticfreedom.wordpress.com/2013/12/27/large-hadron-collider-exposed-the-stargate-of-shiva/
best conspiracy theory ever!!!
Ha that's superb, thanks for sharing :)
This was definitely a beautiful way to start the day. Love the completely free roving logic of these things and how they always lead to undeniable proof.
LHC = intricate, huge and super-modern science project exhaustively analysed for it's potential to be a contemporary interpretation of ritual technologies arguably employed in ancient civilisations for the purposes of interdimensional travel.
Hindu statues & sanskrit writing in the LHC headquarters = INVOCATIONS TO AID THE MAGJICK
This sort of thing and The Apprentice...Schadenfreude in 2014
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/03/25/virus-sample-missing-from-galveston-national-laboratory/2018887/
march 2013 a "similar" ebola virus missing at texas lab........
A few years back i once chanced upon a thread on a forum (possibly a charlie manson forum) . I lost around 4 hours reading what i can only describe as the most in depth, total lunatic, mental illness style theory that connected Manson, Elvis and The Beatles, really indepth shit such as "Elvis said cat on 1/3/55, if you add those numbers up and divied them by John lennons shoe size it makes the same number as the exact number of times Sharon tate was stabbed" - this would be accompanied by various links, photo's documents to prove said theory.
It was very, very long.
And sadly i cant find it.
http://vigilantcitizen.com/musicbusiness/never-seen-drawings-made-michael-jackson-hint-mind-control/
How many of your favourite porn stars are Beta Kittens (http://hollywoodsubliminals.wordpress.com/project-monarch/sex-kitten/pornstars/)?
http://www.linkiesta.it/kubrick-finto-allunaggio-shining
impressive
Room 237 have a lot of similar theories about shining
"Clue #4: Teeth (Coming soon)"
http://thebeatlesneverexisted.com
Yep, had to be Zionists.
http://truthjihad.blogspot.com.au/2015/01/paris-charlie-hebdo-attack-another.html (http://truthjihad.blogspot.com.au/2015/01/paris-charlie-hebdo-attack-another.html)
http://aanirfan.blogspot.com.au/2015/01/mossad-attacks-paris.html (http://aanirfan.blogspot.com.au/2015/01/mossad-attacks-paris.html)
http://nationalreport.net/miley-cyrus-replaced-double-2010/ (http://nationalreport.net/miley-cyrus-replaced-double-2010/)
EDIT - I'm a dick!!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Report (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Report)
Feel free to make fun of me.
http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/tvandradioblog/2016/feb/09/your-government-lies-why-the-x-files-revival-is-just-right-for-our-climate-of-extreme-scepticism?CMP=fb_gu
conspire (v.)
late 14c., "aspire or plan maliciously, agree together to commit a criminal or reprehensible act," from Old French conspirer (14c.), from Latin conspirare "to agree, unite, plot," literally "to breathe together," from assimilated form of com "with, together" (see con-) + spirare "to breathe" (see spirit (n.)), perhaps on the notion of "to agree (by spoken oath) to commit a bad act." Or perhaps the notion is "to blow together" musical instruments, i.e., "to sound in unison."
What happens when conspiracy controls & dominates the legal system & all facets of global society?
It becomes powermad.
Make sure to wear your mask & bow to your totalitarian technocrat international click.
We now see the epic levels of absurdity & they still want more power/control.
Yet don't you dare pointing the obvious.
Quotetotalitarian technocrat
Ha "technocrat" we still don't even have a track and trace app here in the UK. :D And every anti-covid measure the government put in comes with a statement from the police saying 'uuuuh yeah but no but we can't and won't ever enforce that thoo?"
Nobody seems to actually want to control anything here, the plan seems to be to make some money on the stock market and wait for a few more inconvenient obsolete workers and non-rich+white people to conveniently die off
So speak for your own police state :D
Quote from: Cementimental on August 14, 2020, 04:30:11 PMHa "technocrat" we still don't even have a track and trace app here in the UK. :D And every anti-covid measure the government put in comes with a statement from the police saying 'uuuuh yeah but no but we can't and won't ever enforce that thoo?"
Nobody seems to actually want to control anything here, the plan seems to be to make some money on the stock market and wait for a few more inconvenient obsolete workers and non-rich+white people to conveniently die off
So speak for your own police state :D
It's depressing to think this is going on worldwide. I tend to think of the American citizenry as the gullible idiots, but we clearly don't have that market cornered.
and how about those QAnons and Boogaloos. Georgia (US) is likely to have one in congress, and 20 or so more are on tickets. All but one are Republicans. They could feasible have their own little faction in congress. It's as loony as Scientology and Battlefield Earth type stuff. They still think Pizzagate is real.
Quote from: Zeno Marx on August 14, 2020, 06:18:08 PM
Quote from: Cementimental on August 14, 2020, 04:30:11 PMHa "technocrat" we still don't even have a track and trace app here in the UK. :D And every anti-covid measure the government put in comes with a statement from the police saying 'uuuuh yeah but no but we can't and won't ever enforce that thoo?"
Nobody seems to actually want to control anything here, the plan seems to be to make some money on the stock market and wait for a few more inconvenient obsolete workers and non-rich+white people to conveniently die off
So speak for your own police state :D
It's depressing to think this is going on worldwide. I tend to think of the American citizenry as the gullible idiots, but we clearly don't have that market cornered.
and how about those QAnons and Boogaloos. Georgia (US) is likely to have one in congress, and 20 or so more are on tickets. All but one are Republicans. They could feasible have their own little faction in congress. It's as loony as Scientology and Battlefield Earth type stuff. They still think Pizzagate is real.
Scientology as whole backs Trump hard, both the official church & the "freezoners"/independents. Pretty much all leading Scientologists (meaning the real hardcore, the OTVIIs/OTVIIIs, not the name-brand minor celebrities they like to trot out) routinely post QAnon, antivaxxer & similar assorted wingnuttery on their social media. Peas in a pod.
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QuoteThe statement "To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize" is often falsely attributed to Voltaire, the French Enlightenment philosopher.[26] However, the phrase is believed to originate from an essay by [Kevin] Strom first published in 1993: "All America Must Know the Terror that is Upon Us".
hahah SHOCKED that an image macro 'quote' is fake. Critical thinking and a simple google search before spamming junk fwds-from-grampaw is for leftist marxist losers I guess?
Perhaps moving forward we can have discussions here instead of just posting image macros?
The image macros are in fact coded with deeply intense discussions that, unfortunately, you are simply not privy to.
If you enjoy wacky, reality-shattering SHIT, my personal favorites, among other things, were always http://973-eht-namuh-973.com
http://deathandhell.com
Enjoy.
I watched Godspell the other day. Towards the beginning all these Jesus Freaks are dancing on a skyscraper in New York City very close to the edge. It scared me, I was imagining one of them missing a step and falling! The camera panned out and it turned out to be the World Trade Center! How in Christ's name did they get up there? Well I am getting ready to move to New Orleans so I am burning all files having to do with Operation Mindfuck. I glanced at a reference to a book called "Breaking The Godspell" in one of Robert Anton Wilson's books and looked it up. It is about how humanity was engineered by extra-terrestrials. Pretty weird but I want to read it. The rest of the movie sucked, except that banger track "Day by Day". Peace!
When you feel sad
Or under a curse
Your life is bad
Your prospects are worse
Your wife is crying
Sighing
And your olive tree is dying
Temples are graying
And teeth are decaying
Credit is weighing your purse
Your mood and your robe
Are both a deep blue
You'd bet that Job
Had nothing on you
Some men are born to live at ease, doing what they please, richer than the bees are in honey
Never growing old, never feeling cold, pulling pots of gold from thin air
The best in every town, best at shaking down, best making mountains of money
They can't take it with them, but what do they care?
They get the center of the meat, cushions on the seat, houses on the street where it's sunny
Summers at the sea, winters warm and free, all of this and we get the rest
But who is the land for, the sun and the sand for?
You guessed, it's all for the
You must never be distressed
Yes, it's all for the
All your arms will be redressed
Yes it's all for the
Someone's got to be oppressed
Yes, it's all for the best!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzoC01dFXHU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzoC01dFXHU)
Pretty surreal, it was being built when this was filmed!
Someone just destroyed the Georgia Guidestones with an explosive. Genuinely saddening: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/georgia-slabs-called-satanic-by-some-torn-down-after-bombing
Preface
I have some information that may be not only shocking to some but down right troubling for others, the implications point towards a number of possible or rather impossible happenings or circumstances that would cause this to happen. The only real way to address this without being framed as a hoax or a one-off occurrence, I will provide proving evidence of its occurrence from my own personal account and evidence.
I will warn anyone reading this right now, if you are disturbed by events that are beyond the scope of scientific explanation and hold the ideological view of the atheistic materialism of the academia of western dominant thought, then don't read this post. This will more than likely make you have an existential crisis.
Theory. A lot of people are familiar with the Mandela Effect is not a conspiracy in itself, but rather a phenomenon that has been associated with various conspiracy theories. It refers to the collective misremembering of certain events or details, where a significant number of people recall something differently from the available evidence.
The term "Mandela Effect" was coined by Fiona Broome, a paranormal researcher, in 2010, after she discovered that many people believed Nelson Mandela had died in prison in the 1980s, even though he was released in 1990 and became the President of South Africa. This collective memory discrepancy led her to speculate that alternate realities or parallel universes could be responsible for these differing recollections.
Conspiracy theories have since emerged to explain the Mandela Effect, suggesting that these discrepancies are not simply the result of faulty memory but are evidence of alternate timelines or deliberate manipulations. Some proponents of the conspiracy claim that the Mandela Effect is caused by changes in history deliberately made by powerful entities, such as government agencies or secret societies, for unknown purposes.
These theories often point to examples of widely shared false memories, such as the spelling of the Berenstain, or the placement of the Monopoly man's monocle (many remember him having one, although he does not).
However, it's important to note that the Mandela Effect can be explained by a combination of factors, including the fallibility of human memory, the spread of misinformation through media and the internet, and the influence of cognitive biases. The Mandela Effect is generally considered to be a psychological phenomenon rather than evidence of alternate realities or intentional manipulation.
Ok, and everyone may have opinions that differ on what exactly that all means to them in regard to it's a product of phenomenology or conscience or overt manipulation or sincere memory errors on behalf of the individuals who experience this "condition" or phenomenon.
What if I was to tell you that all the pop-cultural incidents are merely a smoke screen to hide the most significant and ultimately provable and consequential of all "Mandella Effects" and this being a topic that drives to the heart of western society and culture at large.
The Christian Bible, of all denominational interpretations, are changing supernaturally to read quite bizarre and often in outrageous ways than what has any way before been known. I have read the Bible 2 times in my 36 years and I had a very basic grasp of the themes and narrative from old to New Testament and the content in general. I own a multitude of Bibles, my family is Catholic, we just never threw any Bibles away so having come from a long line of Roman Catholics we accumulated passed down Bibles from late grandparents etc. The oldest Bible I own is from when Pope Pius XII was in his pontificate, so about 1929. These changes are inside these Bibles as well as the modern ones. Not kinda different, no verbatim, in some cases word for word.
From the anachronisms to the outright nonsense and insanity some of this shit says now, I don't know how more people are not talking openly about it.
It was about 5 years ago the first time I noticed the initial changes. Here is the real kicker, it is still changing and to my best assumption this is going to be a huge stumbling block for people, or it's a fucking simulation we live in, I don't know.
Here is some proof of what I'm describing.
IF anyone would like to discourse about this further with me, then I will be glad to share all the details that I know, and provide any and all proof they may need, but I can tell you if you own a Bible you already possess all the proof you would need to assess the truth or fiction of what I am putting forth.
Just check these out and read and tell me, does this sound familiar?
(https://i.postimg.cc/ThqYnT8n/20210307-131641-2021-04-26-13-44-40-UTC.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ThqYnT8n)
(https://i.postimg.cc/ZBLtvK9R/20210307-131820-2021-04-26-13-44-40-UTC.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ZBLtvK9R)
(https://i.postimg.cc/z3BHDLHV/20210307-125706-2021-04-26-13-44-40-UTC.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/z3BHDLHV)
(https://i.postimg.cc/7J6KmxLm/20210223-040510-2021-04-26-13-44-40-UTC.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/7J6KmxLm)
THIS IS THE VERY TIP OF THE ICEBERG. its so strange I couldnt believe all the crazy shit thats in it now.
This is why the best thing to do whenever you really want to understand an ancient text is to learn and then read it in the language it was originally written in.
Quote from: Balor/SS1535 on June 14, 2023, 09:47:32 PM
This is why the best thing to do whenever you really want to understand an ancient text is to learn and then read it in the language it was originally written in.
Pretty hard to do that if the words keep changing though.
Quote from: Mass Graven Image on June 14, 2023, 09:00:55 PM
THIS IS THE VERY TIP OF THE ICEBERG. its so strange I couldnt believe all the crazy shit thats in it now.
So the tip of the iceberg is unreadable example text?!
Quote from: eraciator on June 14, 2023, 10:51:24 PM
Quote from: Balor/SS1535 on June 14, 2023, 09:47:32 PM
This is why the best thing to do whenever you really want to understand an ancient text is to learn and then read it in the language it was originally written in.
Pretty hard to do that if the words keep changing though.
Then I would recommend getting the oldest Greek New Testament that you can find and sticking with it!
The bible's a load of bloody nonsense anyway so who cares what's in it?
Quote from: Mass Graven Image on June 14, 2023, 09:00:55 PM
I will warn anyone reading this right now, if you are disturbed by events that are beyond the scope of scientific explanation and hold the ideological view of the atheistic materialism of the academia of western dominant thought, then don't read this post. This will more than likely make you have an existential crisis.
This thread lives up to its name.
Quote from: Mass Graven Image on June 14, 2023, 09:00:55 PM
A more modern translation of one of your examples:
Quote
23 One person dies in full vigor,
completely secure and at ease,
24 well nourished in body,
bones rich with marrow.
25 Another dies in bitterness of soul,
never having enjoyed anything good.
26 Side by side they lie in the dust,
and worms cover them both.
makes perfect sense and is quite deep and power-electronics-ish really :) And completely explains the meaning of your version!
You just have some olde-worldy hard-to-understand translation i guess, which uses words in an old fashioned way ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Get a grip and lay off the weed:D
EDIT: yeah i looked it up and you are reading the king james bible from like 1600 or whatever. Don't be surprised you can't understand it all. :D Do you realise that you can simply google any bible verse and get any number of websites which allow you to compare absolutely every different translation of the thing and explain what it means?
I don't even get what's supposed to be so weird about half the examples you posted! Especially the last one which makes total sense, even tho again the language is a bit archaic. Guess you are so bedazzled by weird internet anti-trans cult stuff that you freak out at the word 'breast' in any context? :D
Anyway everyone knows the bible is full of weird, violent, un-pc and nonsensical stories that people argue over the meaning of. I suppose the bit where Elisha gets god to send two bears to slaughter 42 kids for making fun of his bald head is a "supernatural change" to you too? :D
EDIT2: this youtube video might clear things up a bit for you: https://youtu.be/6HVClB6wPrA
Quotedoes this sound familiar?
and yeah that drinking piss / 'drink from the waters of his own cistern' double entendre
does sound familiar, I read about that ages ago. One of the funnier gags in the bible, up there with Jesus's joke about the log in the brother's eye.
Don't see anything anachronistic at all in the passages you posted, just words that sound amusing/odd because we use them in a slightly different context now.
QuoteIF anyone would like to discourse about this further with me, then I will be glad to share all the details that I know, and provide any and all proof they may need
Please do!!
Many people have the impression that someone is controlling us, and these people are right to a certain extent. The only thing is that this "someone" is not one, not ten, not a thousand or even hundreds of thousands of people. The world around us is much more complicated than conspiracy theorists see it. It consists of millions of systems that interact with each other every second, and these interactions both directly depend on the result of work in the previous link of interaction, and directly affect the work of the next link. It would seem that somewhere these links should converge into one big ring called "ruler" or "leader", and this is true, but every person who has ever led at least a couple dozen people understands perfectly well that his task is to establish the narrative of the work, and how this work will be performed depends entirely on from the direct executor. The head of a construction company can hire a reliable contractor who has proven himself well, but how well the work will be done depends on the builders, designers, regulatory authorities and many others. Only on the example of a construction site, you can spend months to detail the whole process and not every one of us will do it with ease, but people undertake to systematize the management of the whole world with no matter what.
In short, do I believe in conspiracy theories? No. In people who have enough knowledge and experience in a particular field in order to take advantage of the situation in their favor? Yes, definitely.
Quote from: Nasir K. on June 16, 2023, 01:53:40 PM
In short, do I believe in conspiracy theories? No.
Yeah (https://pitchfork.com/news/ftc-should-investigate-music-streaming-deals-study-urges/), Sure (https://pitchfork.com/news/music-publishers-sue-twitter-for-250-million-citing-copyright-infringement/), aHa (https://apnews.com/article/wga-writers-strike-demands-d403f5b4666f20e2ce3e379bcaef5f2a/), 0k (https://pitchfork.com/news/universal-music-group-signs-deal-with-ai-startup-endel/).
Is the
hollowing (https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/may/08/ai-machines-hallucinating-naomi-klein/) out of the arts & nightlife in a system dominated by the influence of 600 billionaires even a conspiracy? Is the blatant promotion of nostalgia, syndication, &
postmodern motel art (https://www.bbc.com/culture/article/20161004-was-modern-art-a-weapon-of-the-cia/) by conservative entities a conspiracy? Perhaps just my American perspective and a reflection of my own experience.
By all means
judge (https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/bandcamp-union-1234695308/) for yourself.
Thought that Joan is Awful Black Mirror episode was pretty interesting.
Quote from: Yvette on June 17, 2023, 03:09:44 AM
Is the hollowing (https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/may/08/ai-machines-hallucinating-naomi-klein/) out of the arts & nightlife in a system dominated by the influence of 600 billionaires even a conspiracy? Is the blatant promotion of nostalgia, syndication, & postmodern motel art (https://www.bbc.com/culture/article/20161004-was-modern-art-a-weapon-of-the-cia/) by conservative entities a conspiracy?
Is swearing from the mouth of a parrot a parrot problem? Of course, it is. The question is how it is mediated. The reality is clear - we have a swearing parrot, but the parrot started swearing after hearing it from a person, who in turn heard abuse from another person, who heard it from another person, and so on. Was there anyone among these people who deliberately taught someone to swear in order to get a swearing parrot in the future? perhaps. After all, if I don't believe in something, it doesn't mean at all that it doesn't exist.
Quote from: Yvette on June 17, 2023, 03:09:44 AMPerhaps just my American perspective and a reflection of my own experience.
American society grew up mainly on Protestant religious grounds, and given how many Protestant movements have appeared in the United States over the past 200 years, the poverty of symbolism or its complete loss is quite normal for Protestantism and its active elaboration in art is a completely natural consequence of all of the above. Conspiracy theories are the result of the manifestation of the archetype of meaning, and where religion does not satisfy this need, the soil for these manifestations is simply ideal.
Somewhere i have a neo-pagan mag from a couple decades ago. A long article / study in it analyzes the role of Paul as a Jew -double- agent with close ties and at times in co-operation with part of Roman elite class, on a mission to spread christian beliefs in order to cause instability in the Empire with 2 final goals : 1. The Roman elite get rid of Nero [dont remember if they were only against him or they wanted to undermine the imperial system] 2. Jews take advantage of chaos, revolt and free their territories. It made sense when i read it. It convinced me to be a very strong possibility, at least. Sources, facts, dates match. - Need to find to re-read. It would be fun to compare my current mind with that back then.
The new chronology by Anatoly Fomenko
the only pizzagate I recognise is how the guy who invented Hawaii pizza didn't get sacrificed by Italo-americans on columbus day.
Quote from: Theodore on June 18, 2023, 07:04:10 AMSomewhere i have a neo-pagan mag from a couple decades ago. A long article / study in it analyzes the role of Paul as a Jew -double- agent with close ties and at times in co-operation with part of Roman elite class, on a mission to spread christian beliefs in order to cause instability in the Empire with 2 final goals : 1. The Roman elite get rid of Nero [dont remember if they were only against him or they wanted to undermine the imperial system] 2. Jews take advantage of chaos, revolt and free their territories. It made sense when i read it. It convinced me to be a very strong possibility, at least. Sources, facts, dates match. - Need to find to re-read. It would be fun to compare my current mind with that back then.
Do you happen to remember which magazine this is?
Quote from: LigmaEnigma on April 09, 2024, 09:25:17 PMDo you happen to remember which magazine this is?
Are you Greek ? It's greek. ΙΧΩΡ issue 88, from 2008. 'Who burned Rome ? Nero or Paul ? The historical fraud is revealed' . https://xamenignosi.gr/products/poios-ekapse-tin-romi-88 . Still havent found it in the boxes here. Not that i searched a lot ...
Quote from: Theodore on April 09, 2024, 10:54:56 PMQuote from: LigmaEnigma on April 09, 2024, 09:25:17 PMDo you happen to remember which magazine this is?
Are you Greek ? It's greek. ΙΧΩΡ issue 88, from 2008. 'Who burned Rome ? Nero or Paul ? The historical fraud is revealed' . https://xamenignosi.gr/products/poios-ekapse-tin-romi-88 . Still havent found it in the boxes here. Not that i searched a lot ...
The idea sounds interesting, but I don't understand Greek.
Unrelated, but on topic:
QuoteKatherine Pollard Griggs, former wife of Marine Corps Colonel George Griggs learned about her husband's job. Her husband would drink too much and he started talking openly about the real workings of the U.S. military, leadership training, drug-running and weapons sales, and the secret worldwide camps that train professional assassins. His stories were about murder, corruption, assassinations, and government lies. After he disappeared for a short time, she began receiving threats and decided to tell her story.
Researcher Joël van der Reijden looked into her statements; he confirmed that most of the interpersonal relations mentioned by Kay Griggs appear to be true.
https://isgp-studies.com/kay-griggs-colonel-george-griggs-child-sexual-abuse-military (https://isgp-studies.com/kay-griggs-colonel-george-griggs-child-sexual-abuse-military)
Quote from: tiny_tove on February 26, 2024, 11:22:03 AMthe only pizzagate I recognise is how the guy who invented Hawaii pizza didn't get sacrificed by Italo-americans on columbus day.
rona vax deteced
https://dcpizzagate.wordpress.com/
Quote from: Nasir K. on June 17, 2023, 11:59:03 AMConspiracy theories are the result of the manifestation of the archetype of meaning, and where religion does not satisfy this need, the soil for these manifestations is simply ideal.
I conspire to find any meaning whatsoever in this statement hahaha