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Title: KNIVES , EDGED WEAPONS ?
Post by: bitewerksMTB on July 09, 2012, 12:36:05 AM
Anyone collect knives, bayonets, swords, etc.? Are Europeans allowed to carry pocket knives? I've got, maybe, a dozen in all. Mostly folders, a few that are practical to carry & some that could be carried but are a bit bulky/heavy. I like Cold Steel knives the most as they hold a sharp edge for a long time.  My favorite knife is by Zero Tolerance but it's too bulky to carry.

ZT (I didn't pay anywhere near this price):

http://gotknife.com/zero_tolerance-Black_Folder-ZT200.aspx

Cold Steel Recon (mine is an earlier model w/slightly diff grip):

http://www2.knifecenter.com/item/CS27TLT/Cold-Steel-Recon-1-Tanto-4-inch-Plain-Blade-G10-Handles



Title: Re: KNIVES , EDGED WEAPONS ?
Post by: bitewerksMTB on July 09, 2012, 01:12:53 AM
I cut the hell out of myself once with a multi-tool.

Cold Steel is good b/c they're very well made for the price. Some knives are just ridiculously expensive esp if you plan on carrying/using it (Using it as a tool, not for protection). I haven't purchased a knife in years. Love looking at them but then what's the point in spending money just to have something else sitting around just to look at?
Title: Re: KNIVES , EDGED WEAPONS ?
Post by: tiny_tove on July 09, 2012, 09:41:59 AM
Great thread Keith!

My dad has one of this:

(http://www.mercoledisantorescueadventure.com/images/pattada17.jpg)

Sardinian "pattada" knife, available in several sizes, used to cut sheeps and pigs throat.
You definitely cannot walk around with this, although all sheperds have this.

I have a leatherman at home and some similar knives.
I plan to get a real Swiss army knife -they are quite cheap where I work.

used to have several knives of different sizes, but go rid of them once I moved to Uk.

A friend of mine purchased a nice set of knives made of a plastic material (possibky Kevlar?), that cut like hell and are not seen by metal detectors.

I had several bayonets.
two German ones from WWII, one from WWI, but the nicest one was a kalashnikov bayonet that was a real work of art:

(http://www.ak47bayonets.com/pic/010-030.jpg)

In Italy you can carry around a pocket knife if it is maximum 3 fingers of length.
Thing is even with such a site, if you get into troubles with the cops, even if you don't use it, you may be accused of carrying an improper weapon.

here in Switzerland I ithink is different, everybody has an army knife, you can buy them also in supermarkets:
http://www.victorinox.com/ch
Title: Re: KNIVES , EDGED WEAPONS ?
Post by: RyanWreck on July 09, 2012, 06:04:48 PM
That Zero Tolerance knife is pretty nice looking. I am a huge fan of weapons but I'm not really into knives, don't know why they just have never been my thing. I have 3. 1 is a 8.25in Commando blade, and then I have 2 switchblades. To me Guns are much more sexy than knives, specifically Assault Rifles and SMG's. It is a very expensive hobby though.

Title: Re: KNIVES , EDGED WEAPONS ?
Post by: bitewerksMTB on July 09, 2012, 08:42:59 PM
Yeah, black rifles & machine guns are definitely more interesting. I saw a magazine called "Recoil" that was a nice mix of guns & knives. It was Vol. 1, #3 so it's fairly new.

Wish I had access to private land for shooting Tannerite...
Title: Re: KNIVES , EDGED WEAPONS ?
Post by: RyanWreck on July 09, 2012, 09:43:17 PM
H&K has some beautiful knives, I really want the 530-Pardue. I like spearhead styled blades the most they look, and feel, good.

QuoteWish I had access to private land for shooting Tannerite...

Fuck, tannerite is awesome stuff. I've never had the chance to shoot it myself and looking at the prices for just 20 targets that you can only use once is a little above what I would like to pay for targets. Have you shot them? If so, how big is the blast from just one?

Is there already a thread somewhere that encompass' all weapons? If so I can't seem to find it although I swear there was something like that.
Title: Re: KNIVES , EDGED WEAPONS ?
Post by: bitewerksMTB on July 09, 2012, 11:07:19 PM
For Tannerite, get someone to split the cost of a case with. That's what I use to do. It's well worth the money esp. if you put the target inside another, larger target, like a washing machine. Or you can put 2 targets in a larger bottle. It's loud n' destructive, you can feel the shockwave from it.  There are other places making similiar explosive targets that may be cheaper. Or just go up to that Northern AZ machinegun shoot in October- they use a lot of it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_HRyAG2xqU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4lFzdQbrHw&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sSYWa-h4BQ&feature=related

As you can see, the stuff works & it's fun!
Title: Re: KNIVES , EDGED WEAPONS ?
Post by: RyanWreck on July 09, 2012, 11:46:48 PM
I would love to goto that October machine gun shooting but I have a felony on my record (luckily it is coming off when I finish probation in March) and I don't really like going out to ranges or events where I could be found out, I could go to Prison for anywhere from 8 months to 2 years so I am a bit sketchy about those types of things especially being so close to finishing the 5 years I have been on probation. Splitting the cost is a good idea though. Wouldn't mind getting some incendiary rounds and pumping those in there for extra boom.

Title: Re: KNIVES , EDGED WEAPONS ?
Post by: icepick method on July 14, 2012, 01:56:33 AM
My parents collect more than i do. Dad has one of those double edged trench knives with the brass knuckles, not one of the cheap copies either. Mom has two switchblades in her jewelry box, one pearl handled. Also got her one of these for christmas last year: http://www.amazon.com/Wusthof-8-Inch-Hollow-Ground-Blackwood-Handle/dp/B003MU9G1O

Been watching this series on youtube of these two canadian kids learning to machine knives in their garage.
http://www.youtube.com/user/JohnGrimsmo/videos
They break a lot of tools and ruin quite a bit of hardened titanium, but they're learning something every time.
Here's their site for the custom handles they make for others knives.
http://www.johngrimsmo.com/in-stock-now.htm

Personally i just carry my H&K usp compact.

Title: Re: KNIVES , EDGED WEAPONS ?
Post by: sterilization on July 29, 2012, 12:31:41 AM
(http://www.bladehq.com/imgs/side-opening-automatics/gerber-auto/gerber-06/gerber-22-01055-06-automatic-tanto.jpg)
http://www.bladehq.com/item--Gerber-06-Automatic-Knife--1472

i have carried this for about 6 years now. still a bad little knife.

i hope i never get caught with it by the police. apparently you are supposed to be law enforcement/military to own it.

one of my air force friends used to grab them by the handfull as gifts when he worked in the tool shack.
Title: Re: KNIVES , EDGED WEAPONS ?
Post by: kettu on December 21, 2012, 11:37:39 AM
the old man is turning fiddy(50) monday so I got him a sweet bayonet

(http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee29/vulpesprod/piikki_zpsc3f53180.jpg)
Title: Re: KNIVES , EDGED WEAPONS ?
Post by: Invisible War on December 21, 2012, 07:10:24 PM
This is on my shopping list, handled one recently and liked the look and feel.

SOG Trident Tanto

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ylcLefoY8Fk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANr1alWNju0
Title: Re: KNIVES , EDGED WEAPONS ?
Post by: HHL on December 21, 2012, 07:51:26 PM
For daily use I switch back and forth between my Leatherman - Crater C33 folding knife:
http://www.toolup.com/leatherman_8600140_crater-c33-folding-knife.aspx

and my Gerber - Fast Draw assisted-blade folding knife:
http://www.chiefsupply.com/3670-Gerber-FAST-Draw-Folding-Knife-w-Spring-Assist-Opening.aspx?sku=2207161&source=Google+Base_CHIEF+Supply&gclid=CPjw2suGrLQCFQHonAodcEkA8w

They're both budget priced but have proved to be reliable.

I work as a mechanic and have for years so carrying one was born out of necessity. That said, I don't go anywhere without one now. Living in Los Angeles I had to pull one out on someone twice in defense. Rapidly flicking open an assisted-blade knife is very satisfying.

I've begun collecting older wooden handled folding knives and hunting knives.

I've been planning on picking up some knives from Cold Steel for a while now. The grip on the Recon 1 looks excellent.
Title: Re: KNIVES , EDGED WEAPONS ?
Post by: Jordan on December 30, 2012, 04:48:23 AM
(http://www.targetszone.co.uk/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/webassets/knife1010.jpg)

Picked up this cheapo spring loaded knife solely on account of the Masonic symbol on it. Mine has bad desert storm style camouflage.

*I guess this isn't exactly the same as mine, and the Mason thing seems to be a brand or something. It just caught my eye at a booth in a mall.
Title: Re: KNIVES , EDGED WEAPONS ?
Post by: Ashley Choke on December 30, 2012, 05:09:01 AM
Wonder how many of the posters in this thread knows how to handle a bladed weapon in a potential violent confrontation?

Having had a fair share of blade training during my Escrima classes has given me some basic insight and abilities with a knife, but its tricky business for sure. Sure as hell hope Ill never have to apply what limited knowledge I have in real life.
Title: Re: KNIVES , EDGED WEAPONS ?
Post by: Jordan on December 30, 2012, 09:04:13 AM
I took weapons classes when I was into martial arts when I was a kid, so I at least know basic things, like never slash, always jab/stab, etc.
Title: Re: KNIVES , EDGED WEAPONS ?
Post by: Ashley Choke on December 30, 2012, 09:15:58 PM
Yeah slashing should be kept for machete sized blades I guess. That's what I've been training most actually. Pretty damn fun
Title: Re: KNIVES , EDGED WEAPONS ?
Post by: Levas on September 05, 2014, 02:29:18 PM
Nice article:

http://blog.suarezinternational.com/2014/08/realities-of-the-knife.html#.U_b-TV_Hvcs (http://blog.suarezinternational.com/2014/08/realities-of-the-knife.html#.U_b-TV_Hvcs)

Title: Re: KNIVES , EDGED WEAPONS ?
Post by: Leewar on September 06, 2014, 12:17:27 PM
Ive had a interest in the Karambit for a while now, slowly learning the fighting style to use it properly.
Title: Re: KNIVES , EDGED WEAPONS ?
Post by: kettu on September 08, 2014, 10:07:42 PM
Im fond of this style of spanish folding knife called navaja http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navaja

I just thought it was pretty but apparently its a known fighting blade  

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tY5LeQHByCM/UMdWyKynKUI/AAAAAAAAJFE/oLdrfBKytb8/s1600/navaja_06.jpg)
Title: Re: KNIVES , EDGED WEAPONS ?
Post by: ANDROPHILIA on September 08, 2014, 10:19:47 PM
(http://www.bottegadellobo.altervista.org/web%20pages/coltelli/42-%20britoin/P2236596.JPG)

Tipical knife of my land. The venetic rural region around Venice.
It's called "britoa" .
Title: Re: KNIVES , EDGED WEAPONS ?
Post by: P-K on September 29, 2014, 05:42:58 AM
Böker Cop-Tool (mass production version of Wilson Tactical design, other steel, less expensive)
(http://www.swordsknivesanddaggers.com/blades/BOP300.jpg)
not an edged weapon but a tool (seems laws in Belgium are only applied on switchblades & daggers, all other knives depend on 'intended use' or something like that)....

4,5cm serrated blade, chisel/prybar/scraper tip, cord cutter, glassbreaker. very strong. Leather sheath sucks can buy good kydex ones online.
Title: Re: KNIVES , EDGED WEAPONS ?
Post by: online prowler on November 04, 2014, 04:58:48 PM
Quote from: tiny_tove on July 09, 2012, 09:41:59 AM
Great thread Keith!

My dad has one of this:

(http://www.mercoledisantorescueadventure.com/images/pattada17.jpg)

Sardinian "pattada" knife, available in several sizes, used to cut sheeps and pigs throat.
You definitely cannot walk around with this, although all sheperds have this.

I have a leatherman at home and some similar knives.
I plan to get a real Swiss army knife -they are quite cheap where I work.

used to have several knives of different sizes, but go rid of them once I moved to Uk.

A friend of mine purchased a nice set of knives made of a plastic material (possibky Kevlar?), that cut like hell and are not seen by metal detectors.

I had several bayonets.
two German ones from WWII, one from WWI, but the nicest one was a kalashnikov bayonet that was a real work of art:

(http://www.ak47bayonets.com/pic/010-030.jpg)

In Italy you can carry around a pocket knife if it is maximum 3 fingers of length.
Thing is even with such a site, if you get into troubles with the cops, even if you don't use it, you may be accused of carrying an improper weapon.

here in Switzerland I ithink is different, everybody has an army knife, you can buy them also in supermarkets:
http://www.victorinox.com/ch


Big want Tiny Tove.

Here is more fetish:

Blackhawk Gideon Warriors | Tactical Knives

(http://files.tactical-life.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/bh2.jpg)

http://www.tactical-life.com/tactical-knives/blackhawk-gideon-warriors/ (http://www.tactical-life.com/tactical-knives/blackhawk-gideon-warriors/)


Also lot of interesting blades from Combatative Edge: www.combativeedge.com/ (http://www.combativeedge.com/)


Spyderco:
(http://files.tactical-life.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/spanish-spyderco-navaja-b.jpg)

http://www.spyderco.com/ (http://www.spyderco.com/)
Title: Re: KNIVES , EDGED WEAPONS ?
Post by: bitewerksMTB on November 04, 2014, 08:09:06 PM
I like the looks of the bottom two Spyderco knives but I could not find them on their site... One looks like it says "Gomez" but that word turned up nothing on the site.

This looks like a fun toy:

http://www.tactical-life.com/knives/tops-knives-el-patron-xxx/

This looks good especially the grip:

http://www.tactical-life.com/magazines/guns-and-weapons/crkt-foresight/
Title: Re: KNIVES , EDGED WEAPONS ?
Post by: online prowler on November 05, 2014, 06:07:17 AM
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on November 04, 2014, 08:09:06 PM
I like the looks of the bottom two Spyderco knives but I could not find them on their site... One looks like it says "Gomez" but that word turned up nothing on the site.

This looks like a fun toy:

http://www.tactical-life.com/knives/tops-knives-el-patron-xxx/

This looks good especially the grip:

http://www.tactical-life.com/magazines/guns-and-weapons/crkt-foresight/

Those two are dead sexy mate. Very hostile expression. Especially sombre design on the TOPS knife. Just plain mean. Affordable prices as well which is a big plus. I was looking at the Spyderco knives in question myself, though the top second. The image is two small for me to make out any title. I also checked their page, but am starting to think maybe these are original Spanish knives (see Kettu's post above). Not sure though. Regarding the CRKT knife and grip. Very good, probably stable in the hand, but no good for knife action. Might fit more in one hand than both. Grips also limit stab opportuniotes from various angles. IF you want to cut some beef, this COLD STEEL TI LITE ZYTEL pucker could come hard and fast in handy: http://www.coldsteel.com/Product/26SP/TI_LITE_ZYTEL_HANDLE.aspx (http://www.coldsteel.com/Product/26SP/TI_LITE_ZYTEL_HANDLE.aspx) Works great in both hands, and you can partly use it as a blunt instrument.

(http://www.coldsteel.com/images/products/26SP_m.jpg)
Title: Re: KNIVES , EDGED WEAPONS ?
Post by: Levas on November 05, 2014, 12:28:17 PM
Another decent article about surviving knife attack

http://blog.suarezinternational.com/2014/10/surviving-a-knife-attack.html (http://blog.suarezinternational.com/2014/10/surviving-a-knife-attack.html)
Title: Re: KNIVES , EDGED WEAPONS ?
Post by: Jaakko V. on November 05, 2014, 05:07:13 PM
Quote from: Levas on November 05, 2014, 12:28:17 PM
Another decent article about surviving knife attack

http://blog.suarezinternational.com/2014/10/surviving-a-knife-attack.html (http://blog.suarezinternational.com/2014/10/surviving-a-knife-attack.html)

Done some knife defense training, and all I can say is that based on that my personal take is that I'd rather have someone point a gun to my head than attack me with a knife. Bare hands defense against that under stressful realities – fucking hard.

As explained almost at verbatim here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37XiSn81oFw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37XiSn81oFw)
Title: Re: KNIVES , EDGED WEAPONS ?
Post by: bitewerksMTB on November 05, 2014, 07:13:36 PM
Cold Steel is my favorite knife company. Affordable, high quality, & razor sharp. One of these days, I'm going to buy one of these:

http://www.coldsteel.com/Product/91WAS/AFRICAN_WALKING_STICK.aspx

Title: Re: KNIVES , EDGED WEAPONS ?
Post by: Levas on November 05, 2014, 08:00:23 PM
Very good video. I guess the best defense against the knife attack is running. Otherwise it's more or less theoretical speculations in ideal situations as this happens in most of the trainings of knife defense etc. Here is one funny one from Lithuanian "soft self defense system" school https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INCuRL-H_cs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INCuRL-H_cs)
it's ok when ballerinas on heroine are attacking
Title: Re: KNIVES , EDGED WEAPONS ?
Post by: kosis on March 04, 2015, 04:41:09 PM
Some of my favorites:

Hinderer Eklipse
Hinderer Bowie
Hogue EX-01 Tanto
Spyderco Paramilitary
Zero Tolerance 0550
Tops CQT Magnum 711 Tanto
Combative Edge Salus Tanto
Combative Edge SR11
Combative Edge M1
Title: Re: KNIVES , EDGED WEAPONS ?
Post by: online prowler on June 28, 2015, 03:48:31 AM
Microtech:

http://www.microtechknives.com/knives/our-knives/ (http://www.microtechknives.com/knives/our-knives/)