I would have guessed this would have been up for discussion earlier, but couldn't find anything through search. I'm just curious about how people generally listen to the music this forum deals with (in what situations, how you prefer your listening experience to be, etc.)
I just realized that my listening habits have changed somewhat from when I was younger. Living at my parent's house, I'd usually listen with headphones cause I didn't have a stereo of my own, and consequently I had to pretty much sit still in one spot and just listen focused, doing nothing else except possibly looking at the release artwork and any booklets and such.
Nowadays I usually put releases on the stereo while doing something else that doesn't require too much attention, so I can still pay attention to the sound. This mode of listening works for me but I usually pay less attention to artwork, packaging etc. than in the first example, and the experience leans more toward background music than really focused listening.
I used to think washing the dishes was the perfect opportunity to listen to new releases but lately I've become distracted by the sounds of water and such haha.
I listen to music on portable player constantly when out on the town, subway etc. but rarely industrial/noise, I don't get much out of it in that context, maybe I can't really focus on it or something.
Only aggressive industrial P.E. like Grunt, Genocide Organ and Institut work for me outdoors, in mp3 player. More down-key, lo-fi, subtle music is ruined by surrounding sounds (esp. since I mainly listen on the bus going to work - grindcore & prog rock is much better for that...). No I prefer to be listening to "our" kind of music at home, by my self, on the stereo. The sound has to circulate through the room and interact with me; listening in headphones immobilizes me and I don't like that. Most of the time, i listen to music while doing other things - reading, idling away on forums like this, communicating etc. Only using a laptop I rarely listen to music from the computer, since that would require me to hook the machine up with my soundsystem, and I rarely can be bothered. It's between me and the physical sound carrier, not me and the analysts at Spotify or LastFM or Youtube/Google logging every track I listen to when and how.
That doing dishes routine still works for me somehow, but mostly only for reviewing albums, and then it's only metal.
I have always constantly listening to music at home. But since i got my daughter the listening have change a little bit. Before i could play almost anything except the most annoying stuff. Like very high pitched tones that shake your ears. But since i got a music room (man cave) it´s no problem.
Now i play music all the times also but not noise, experiential stuff when they are around. And since i have a very broad taste it doesn´t matter. But it´s mostly cause i don´t wanna be interrupted 15 minutes in of a longer piece etc. So nowadays i play that kind of stuff mostly at late evenings and when she sleeps her afternoon sleep. Or when they are not around.
Otherwise i listens to music in the car. I never listens to music on my computer except for some sound snippets or like youtube.
I bought an ipod 2004 but used it for a few months, did´t like it at all.
I too only listen to harsher music at home. While driving around i need more active foreground music, which is usually hip hop like jedi mind tricks and immortal technique; or 80's-90's "industrial"-EBM stuff like Dive and Numb.
The gym is a completely different story, i need really upbeat, fast, simple music for that, a lot of DHR stuff like atari teenage riot and Bomb20, Berzerker when i do overhead press, ghetto-tech like dj godfather and bitch ass darius.
since i sold my hi fi system i mostly listen to noise in my car , computer or big synth amp
It all depends on technology for me. At home, both my cd-player and my vinyl player has broken down since quite some time, and the computer is dying too. Which means I never play vinyl and rarely cd. I listen mostly to tapes or mp3's through the cassette player. This has led to me actually recording more music and listening to that than the actual releases I buy. Will get a new stereo system sooner or later, but it's been a year or so since I listened to vinyl at home.
When I'm outdoors I must listen to music, I can't stand being around unknown people and being forced to listen to them talking on the bus, street or wherever. It's also quite handy for me in order to concentrate while reading or writing on buses and trains as the talking and "natural noises" just gets under my skin. There is no real pattern of choice in music though, as long as the volume and equalisation are approppriatley set.
I only listen to music at home on my hifi. I used to live alone and therefore I could listen to anything any time, but since I've been living with my girlfriend, I can only listen to 99% of my collection when she's not at home. So that really reduces my listening time unfortunately; I don't want to listen to music on headphones when she's at home.
The only good thing about living in a very small unit is that I can hear the music everywhere in it; I used to listen to music even when taking a shower (although of course softer music wasn't the best choice then). Doing the dishes is almost perfect for me as I can easily concentrate on the music (and the hifi is just a few metres away).
I used to listen to metal/grindcore when going to/coming from work but I stopped about a year ago as I had to listen really loud to block out the outside noise (traffic, people etc.) and I figured I was probably damaging my hearing while at the same time not even enjoying the music that much as the quality through iPod headphones was crap (plus add to that mp3 quality and outside noises).
Despite the fact the ideal (and pretty much only) way for me to listen to music is on the hifi at home, I have a very cheap hifi and no record player (although this doesn't stop me from buying the occasional vinyl). Once we move to a larger apartment, I plan to save up for a decent hifi and turntable (although I should probably start saving now if I want quality).
I need noise when I have a bad day, if it's on the subway or on the street or in the library with on an ipod so be it. i play tapes and records on the hifi while laying down on the bed and absorbing it, or cleaning my room or bathroom. most noise will cause me to drive wrecklessly but not as bad as drone, GO is great really loud and I'm trying to stay awake though.
Living with a girlfriend who doesn't like extreme music, I listen with wireless headphones quite often, but mostly not more than an hour a day and then often, also with headphone, when she's gone. So only through the speakers when she's not home, which doesn't happen too much, since we've got more or less the same working hours.
Got an mp3-player which I use at work, or I check out new stuff on youtube and such at work. Used to use my mp3-player on the bus as well, but stopped doing that for the same reason as acsenger. Also, going by bicycle to work, I don't listen to my mp3-player while riding. Would have to put it too loud and don't feel safe, because I also listen a lot whether cars are approaching. And judging from seeing other cunts ride their bicycles while listening to their mp3-players, I guess they shouldn't do it either.
For work I also sometimes have to ride around with cars, so if I know that from before, which I mostly do, I always take some CDs with me.
Whether it's noise or metal or anything (except for ambient), I listen to most music anywhere.
Ipod usually at work, as my co-workers don't like that type of music, although I showed some stuff to my boss and she found it intriguing. she's an old hippie with buttloads of krautrock vinyl, but is also a christian and actively dislikes the black metal I listen to, and digs noise as long as the vocals aren't harsh (wtf?). I tend to listen to more variety at home as my Ipod only holds 8 GB and I need active, loud, disturbing music to block out the radio and the two darkies who obnoxiously sing along to it.
I have a non-working turntable and just acquired a temporary cassette deck (actually a karaoke machine) so I plan on collecting a ton of recycled tapes. most girls I dated were either indifferent about what I listened to, or found it silly. its pretty redundant to say but noise and harsh industrial is a hard sell, but I get a few active listeners on my radio show on Saturdays, so eh.....
After my experiences of living or partly living with girlfriends who do not share my taste in music I have come to the conclusion that I will NEVER live or even enter a relationship with a woman who doesn't like at least partly the same things as me. It just ain't worth it.
Interesting, sometimes I look in the Playlist thread and wonder how people have the time to listen to all of these releases... since listening through start to finish usually takes at least 30-40 minutes, and that's just the first listen, often 2-3 more are needed before you even know if you like it or not. I figured some people who post here must constantly listen to new releases to be able to keep up, but it seems that most people, like me, mostly listen for a few hours a day, after work, when no unappreciative family members are present, etc.
Even though my girlfriend and some of my friends share my music tastes, I rarely play music for other people, I tend to listen in private, or through headphones when I'm around others.
I listen to music almost all the time when I am awake. Unless I'm watching a movie, work or sleep. Either in headphones, or aloud when I'm at home. I can't really stand the silence. Sometimes I burn out on sound and just can't stand it in turn, but most often there's always music.
Then there is also, in regard to thesde playlists - exactly how finely tuned are these listings? Do people really listen to these releases in their whole, how long time constitutes a "recent" listen? Most of the time I listen to music on mp3 or cassette as I said, which means I only hear the original tape releases all others are cd's that are bought and ripped or just downloaded. I also tend to pick my favorite tracks and then focus on them instead of the totality, though I think a lot of people prefer whole sessions of listening to every track on a release?
I prefer to listen music on speakers most of the time I'm at home. Living in a house, I don't have to worry about neighbors complaining, only my family. I put together a nice speaker system in high school using old, but very good equipment my dad had and no longer wanted. An aunt of mine gave me two huge Technics speakers for moving them out of her house. I used to have two smaller Sony speakers hooked up to my receiver as well, creating artificial surround sound. That's my ideal listening condition. Music cranked up to wall shaking levels! I always try to listen to music on its original format but I do rip all of my music into digital format, mostly in case the originals ever get damaged or stolen (which has happened). I also have my computer, laserdisc, VHS, etc all hooked into my receiver so that I can play games or watch movies of any type using the stereo + computer monitor.
I listen to music during most of my time at home, but recently I've been listening to less while out and about. I think this has a lot do with stress. When I'm super stressed I can't focus on or enjoy music as much. And I just prefer more attentive listening.
I always felt this was music suitable for dogs...
I'm fortunate enough to be living with 4 other people who either enjoy the same type of music I do, or are tolerant enough not to be bothered by it, so when I listen to music its usually on the stereo in the livingroom. Loudness usually varies with intoxication amount. I do wonder sometimes if they're annoyed by very loud Deathkey for example but I assume someone would have said something by now if that was the case. Most of us make music on a regular basis, which I guess maybe creates a tolerance for sound in general?
Living in Dallas has really diminished my listening, being in the amount and how focused it is. This city and the surrounding area in many ways sucks the energy out of life and leaves you feeling vacant. I never really listen to headphones anymore, but will bring them if traveling by train or airplane, however they don't get a ton of use... I didn't even truthfully bother with them when living in NYC, i felt like they kind of cheated my experience, i don't need to drown out my environment to find a sense of personal space.
nowadays i listen to music in my car while driving to work in the morning, it's so early that my head is fairly clear and i am able to sometimes get some real listening in...durning the rest of the day it's talk radio in my catering van (just a radio in the van)...my girl has some real good taste and when i'm with her she plays what she wants, often times Indian, Arabic music, some of the stranger pop stuff or some sublime frequencies lps...i get most of my personal listening done on the weekends while she is at work, though i most confess it is not as much or as engaging as it could be for me in my life. The lack of good record stores, good acts and good people really leaves me wanting more, and i think it's time to get the fuck out of here.
I work a two week rota of a week on the first shift and then a week on the second shift.
When on the first shift, I get home for about 3 o'clock and spend until 7 o'clock listening to mostly vinyls or tapes on my old (but good) Marrantz hi-fi through the speakers. My housemates have never complained about the volume but I've often had the piss taken for having a "niche" taste in music.
When on the second shift I don't listen to any music at all but tend to watch downloaded TV series...usually whilst eyeing up the vinyls longingly that have been delivered to me!
About 80% of the time I spend Sundays ripping vinyls and cassettes to a media player and iPod and have a few cans.
I've never been able to stand long journeys by myself without a personal music player of some kind, unless I'm walking in which case I favour the sounds around me.
Never had any conflict with my current partner or any others about my taste in music, infact my current girlfriend who's tastes are basically mainstream pop-punk/rock has been to the LAFMs and Broken Flag events in London with me even though she dislikes the sounds...I have had to return the favour and see bands I'm not interested in, such as Paramore a few years ago but I guess that's being fair for you!
i listen to vinyl and cds on my stereo or cds in my car, i rarely play tapes. no extreme stuff when my 4 year old son is here...
When I listen to the stuff I've traded to or overall the stuff I don't need to review - I put it on the cd player, tape deck or whatever and spin it several times. If there are details that attract my attention, I usually notice that and put it to listen to more carefully later or something like that.
When I'm listening to the stuff from the list "to be reviewed", i put it on ipod to listen to while going to work, at work, etc and then listen it more carefully while reviewing and writing the overall text. after a longer pause without activity in terror, i started to play a game. i rip a disc and put it into ipod and it is the only album i have in there and i don't put any other music. so when the album becomes overlistened to or something like that, i must write about it and then i can delete it and put something new on the player. somehow it works.
Quote from: Levas on August 10, 2012, 11:11:45 AM
When I listen to the stuff I've traded to or overall the stuff I don't need to review - I put it on the cd player, tape deck or whatever and spin it several times. If there are details that attract my attention, I usually notice that and put it to listen to more carefully later or something like that.
When I'm listening to the stuff from the list "to be reviewed", i put it on ipod to listen to while going to work, at work, etc and then listen it more carefully while reviewing and writing the overall text. after a longer pause without activity in terror, i started to play a game. i rip a disc and put it into ipod and it is the only album i have in there and i don't put any other music. so when the album becomes overlistened to or something like that, i must write about it and then i can delete it and put something new on the player. somehow it works.
I like this. Seems very systematic.
I prefer listening to music on as many different players as possible - on my mp3-players, different tape decks, different speakers. Especially when evaluating my own recordings I'm almost obsessed with comparing the sounds of various machines.
I've noted some disdain against headphones in this thread and I must say that I cannot understand it. I use OK headphones with quite good bass, and I think it's much easier to get the finer details of the music that way - cutting out many environmental sounds and focusing on the music itself. Admittingly my audio gear back home isn't exactly hi-fi though.
Quote from: Black_Angkar on July 30, 2012, 03:06:47 PM
After my experiences of living or partly living with girlfriends who do not share my taste in music I have come to the conclusion that I will NEVER live or even enter a relationship with a woman who doesn't like at least partly the same things as me. It just ain't worth it.
That might be easy to find on the coasts or big cities but if you're looking in a place as desolate as the small town Midwest, be prepared to be the loner outsider. I'm fairly certain I have average socialization skills, but its either mild "indie" rock, classic rock (I like it, but it's not my first choice), or bad radio rap, and pop country). It's been a deal breaker in some cases.
Quote from: Black_Angkar on August 10, 2012, 02:08:43 PM
I've noted some disdain against headphones in this thread and I must say that I cannot understand it.
The headphone experience is quite different from listening to speakers. First of all, headphones don't pressurize the air around you, you don't get the same physical effects as with speakers. Second, headphones eliminate the room acoustics completely. Some consider this optimal "high fidelity" but I find that many music genres benefit immensely from the room interaction (reflections from room boundaries etc.), drone is a very good example in my opinion. Third, personally I don't like the narrow soundstage that headphones create, the music stays essentially between the ears. I prefer a wider, more open experience.
Of course there are advanatages to headphones as well. Like you said, details are easier to pick out. And a good set of headphones + a suitable player / headphone amp is much much cheaper than a decent pair of speakers + a good amp. But the extra expense is very much worth it, at least to me. Headphones are very nice when travelling, though.
Quote from: heretogo on August 13, 2012, 08:45:11 PM
Quote from: Black_Angkar on August 10, 2012, 02:08:43 PM
I've noted some disdain against headphones in this thread and I must say that I cannot understand it.
The headphone experience is quite different from listening to speakers. First of all, headphones don't pressurize the air around you, you don't get the same physical effects as with speakers. Second, headphones eliminate the room acoustics completely. Some consider this optimal "high fidelity" but I find that many music genres benefit immensely from the room interaction (reflections from room boundaries etc.), drone is a very good example in my opinion. Third, personally I don't like the narrow soundstage that headphones create, the music stays essentially between the ears. I prefer a wider, more open experience.
Of course there are advanatages to headphones as well. Like you said, details are easier to pick out. And a good set of headphones + a suitable player / headphone amp is much much cheaper than a decent pair of speakers + a good amp. But the extra expense is very much worth it, at least to me. Headphones are very nice when travelling, though.
Well yes. I agree. At home I never listen to headphones accept for recording (record best during night or late evenings, neighbours wouldn't like it. On the other hand our neighbour drills late evenings, once I thought he was a part of my recording and I thought "I can't remeber putting in that badass sound...). I like to listen at loud volumes at home, often with the speakers in another room. But headphones are perfect for both details in your own and others recordings, a great way to make waiting time fly faster as well as cutting the surrounding rabble off.
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Quote from: Black_Angkar on July 30, 2012, 03:06:47 PM
After my experiences of living or partly living with girlfriends who do not share my taste in music I have come to the conclusion that I will NEVER live or even enter a relationship with a woman who doesn't like at least partly the same things as me. It just ain't worth it.
That might be easy to find on the coasts or big cities but if you're looking in a place as desolate as the small town Midwest, be prepared to be the loner outsider. I'm fairly certain I have average socialization skills, but its either mild "indie" rock, classic rock (I like it, but it's not my first choice), or bad radio rap, and pop country). It's been a deal breaker in some cases.
Yeah, well Sweden has a something around 10 million inhabitants. So they aren't exactly lying around in droves. Doesn't matter though.
Because the computer continues to be a key component in my stereo system, and because higher sampling rates and 24-bit are more and more common, I've been looking into adding a DAC to my setup; the Bifrost Schiit. It's entry level, but because it is also modular, it us upgradeable. There are constant advancements in DAC technology, so I find this to be of great significance to the design. I was going to buy a really nice Oppo CD/DVD/etc player, but the units with the better DACs are well over $1000. I think I'd still like to add one, but because I'll probably go the separates route, the player can be one of the lower models (BDP-103). It's more likely that after the DAC addition, I'll upgrade my soundcard.
http://schiit.com/cart/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=0&products_id=7
http://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-bdp-103/
I've been watching conversations on speaker building projects. I'm really intrigued. I might venture into this in the next couple of years. I've wanted to replace my speakers for a while now, and this looks like the route I'm going to take.
http://gr-research.com/nserieskits.aspx
http://www.linkwitzlab.com/TAC-review.htm
Interesting thread. I'd go along w/ a lot of other peoples' experiences a la not using headphones, not having as much 'quality' listening time as years ago (too busy, really), listening doing the dishes, in the car, etc. I do, however, still make the old comp. tapes to listen to on the tractor whilst feeding the cattle!
Someone was on about 'no extreme stuff in front of the four year old', though. Is that bad? I have a six year old, and a four year old, and I frequently play 'extreme stuff' in front of them, and in fact, they quite 'like' it. A few days ago - I jest ye not! - they had a row over whether we play Genocide Organ or Operation Cleansweep! Maybe that's not what you mean by 'extreme'? Am I damaging my youngsters?! Obviously, I keep them away from stuff w/ swearing in it, or some of the 'paedo.' stuff, like on BDN, but otherwise I don't see a problem. They'll rebel anyway, I suppose...
Someone else described how they listened to stuff they were going to review. I used to review stuff for a couple of mags. over the course of a few years, years ago. At first I loved doing it, but after a while, it became a drag, and actually ruined my enjoyment of what I was listening to. All I was doing was trying to find new ways to describe/ write about the sounds, rather than just getting into them for their own sake. So, I gave it up - sensibly!
My turntable has broken down recently, too, which is rather a bugger. Used to really enjoy a glass of whiskey and a slab of vinyl every week or so...
Perhaps this is a question that is only interesting to me, but I thought that I would ask anyway. I have been thinking about noise (in this case, I use this term broadly) a lot lately, specifically about how I tend to listen to it in comparison with other, more traditional styles of music. Personally, I have noticed that when I listen to noise, I find myself examining the cover art and thinking about the themes/ideas that are being expressed more frequently than when I listen to anything else. I think this might be the result of noise (usually) not having a beat, melody, or rhythm that I can catch hold of in my head. I feel as though I need something to root myself with, and usually the art or theme can do this quite well. This isn't to say that I cannot just let the noise be, but rather that I just tend to revert back to this while listening. Something else that I have noticed is that I have a really hard time with listening to noise while exercising. It just isn't energizing or motivating in the way that some power metal or RAC might be.
Does this seem like a pointless question? What do you all do when listening to noise? Do you listen to noise differently from other types of music? Is there anything that you cannot do when listening to noise? Can you just listen to the noise and think of nothing else?
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Most of my listening is digital, be that spotify or stuff downloaded from bandcamp. I do buy some physical items, but that is rare, mostly due to to funds, and the physical items I do have are rarely played due to time constraints. That said, I really enjoy having my small collection, and each item means a lot to me. So having contextualised that-
I do listen to noise when working out. I find that 'thick' sounding PE of the Tesco variety is perfect for it, especially stuff like G.O. with clanking rhythmic metal/percussion elements. Even without though, the atmosphere just seems right for it- the notions of strength, might, Nietzschian overcoming, etc. This stuff is also perfect for walking around, either on a commute or just going for a stroll, especially if (as many of us do) you live somewhere pretty industrial and urban. If I lived in the countryside, I'd probably listen to more black metal or drone on walks.
I'm currently studying, and whenever I need to concentrate I nearly always find myself listening to Total Slitting Of Throats. I explained this to my wife as being because it feels like "amplified silence" and pretty much blocks out distraction with no 'hooks' in the sound which would cause a lapse in concentration. It also kinda lets me feel like I'm doing something I enjoy when working, because I'm a degenerate millennial with no attention span who cannot do one thing at a time.
I nearly always listen to music to fall asleep - I've recently found myself listening to Lussuria a lot for this purpose. I think because it is cinematic and has an escapist value to it. The feeling of narrative and atmosphere is an enjoyable think to fall asleep to.
Basically, I cram as much noise/music listening into my day as possible, because it's my favourite thing in the world, and the digital format makes that an easy thing to do. The magpie in me collects physical releases so that I can support friends' labels, have a finite physical item to go with particularly good releses, or to enjoy the artwork/item in a more tactile way, but it's not the be all and end all.
I purchased a walkman specifically so I could go out for a walk and listen to noise / experimental / whatever tape.
Most often if I go for a walk at night time I will leave my phone at home and just listen to a randomly chosen noise tape from my collection. So that is what I do.
I quite often enjoy the results, especially if there is a clear sky and I can do some star gazing and zone out to whatever sounds are in my ears....
Listening for me have became to not do anything else on the same time, just sit down or lay on bed, listening, drinking my thing and looking at the speakers or the wall -i dont listen music outside or with headphones- . Ofcource this is not the only time / way music is played but if i do something else either i cant focus on that thing or on the music -and i know that cause even if i feel i am listening it and enjoying it, at the end i wont remember much of what i just listened-. Which is strange cause i could do both listening and studying successfuly when i was teen, but i wasnt listening to noise ... Songs, -rhythm, melody, singing- doesnt require your attention that much. Hm, now i am thinking that be very familiar with something, having listen it multiple times, to already know it well, is probably the key. I admit i rarely do that anymore. And it's something i want to 'correct' . To 'stay' with releases longer, to repeat more stuff that i like instead of trying new and exploring. Easier said than done ...
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Quote from: Theodore on January 05, 2021, 05:06:49 PM
Songs, -rhythm, melody, singing- doesnt require your attention that much.
That's really interesting, as my experience feels to be almost the opposite of this. Songs with rhythm and melody demand/command my attention, while noise naturally retreats to the background.
combining two topics..
Quote from: Balor/SS1535 on January 06, 2021, 04:06:14 AM
Quote from: Theodore on January 05, 2021, 05:06:49 PM
Songs, -rhythm, melody, singing- doesnt require your attention that much.
That's really interesting, as my experience feels to be almost the opposite of this. Songs with rhythm and melody demand/command my attention, while noise naturally retreats to the background.
Completely agree. In my insomniac days I used to put on noise tapes to help me get off to sleep. Boyd Rice/ NON, and Daniel Menche's "Furnace Fucker" were ones I remember doing the job particularly well, and I'd be asleep before the end of the tape. If I ever tried drifting off to something song based - say, C93 - I'd ALWAYS be awake for the end of the tape!
My listening habits have shifted a bit. Now the routine for last couple of years has been than I listen pretty much exclusively NEW material at work during the day. Things that are being released, or arrives to mailorder. When at home, in evenings, I do not listen new stuff, but pull out classics and things I have not listened for looong time. It has been really good for picking up things from shelves that may have not been played for decade or more. It is likely that this habit will remain for the future as well.
Quote from: burdizzo1 on January 11, 2021, 01:39:59 PM
Quote from: Balor/SS1535 on January 06, 2021, 04:06:14 AM
Quote from: Theodore on January 05, 2021, 05:06:49 PM
Songs, -rhythm, melody, singing- doesnt require your attention that much.
That's really interesting, as my experience feels to be almost the opposite of this. Songs with rhythm and melody demand/command my attention, while noise naturally retreats to the background.
Completely agree. In my insomniac days I used to put on noise tapes to help me get off to sleep. Boyd Rice/ NON, and Daniel Menche's "Furnace Fucker" were ones I remember doing the job particularly well, and I'd be asleep before the end of the tape. If I ever tried drifting off to something song based - say, C93 - I'd ALWAYS be awake for the end of the tape!
It reminds me a bit of when I used to work in a store that played terrible pop and country music over the loudspeakers every day. It was almost impossible to ignore - no matter how much I tried to. But if it had been white noise or even nothing apart from the ambient sounds of the store, then I would have been able to zone out much more easily.
Quote from: burdizzo1 on January 11, 2021, 01:39:59 PM
Quote from: Balor/SS1535 on January 06, 2021, 04:06:14 AM
Quote from: Theodore on January 05, 2021, 05:06:49 PM
Songs, -rhythm, melody, singing- doesnt require your attention that much.
That's really interesting, as my experience feels to be almost the opposite of this. Songs with rhythm and melody demand/command my attention, while noise naturally retreats to the background.
Completely agree. In my insomniac days I used to put on noise tapes to help me get off to sleep. Boyd Rice/ NON, and Daniel Menche's "Furnace Fucker" were ones I remember doing the job particularly well, and I'd be asleep before the end of the tape. If I ever tried drifting off to something song based - say, C93 - I'd ALWAYS be awake for the end of the tape!
We pretty much say the same thing. Maybe we are confused cause i dont speak / understand english well. To explain : "Noise retreats to the background" - That's why requires your attention if you actually want to listen it and not use it as background music or to fell for sleep.
Songs are there. You can do something else, but at the end you will remember what you listened -lyrics, melody, rhythm-. Dont require attention, they are easy to 'digest' .
Maybe still i use the wrong words, anyway, we mean the same ...
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on January 11, 2021, 01:53:32 PM
My listening habits have shifted a bit. Now the routine for last couple of years has been than I listen pretty much exclusively NEW material at work during the day. Things that are being released, or arrives to mailorder. When at home, in evenings, I do not listen new stuff, but pull out classics and things I have not listened for looong time. It has been really good for picking up things from shelves that may have not been played for decade or more. It is likely that this habit will remain for the future as well.
I feel like I'm always playing catch up with new releases coming into the distro and don't have enough time to listen to classics, but overall my habits tend to be a rotated version of yours. At work I'm mostly listening to favourites as I don't always have time to dedicate my attention to something new, and at home I'm often listening to new arrivals while I add them to the webshop, pack orders, etc. Then there's some weeks where I don't listen to noise/etc at all and the "catch up" pile just grows even more.
laptop or tape deck straight into my 15'' 200w bass amp in a apt :)
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Songs, -rhythm, melody, singing- doesnt require your attention that much.
That's really interesting, as my experience feels to be almost the opposite of this. Songs with rhythm and melody demand/command my attention, while noise naturally retreats to the background.
Completely agree. In my insomniac days I used to put on noise tapes to help me get off to sleep. Boyd Rice/ NON, and Daniel Menche's "Furnace Fucker" were ones I remember doing the job particularly well, and I'd be asleep before the end of the tape. If I ever tried drifting off to something song based - say, C93 - I'd ALWAYS be awake for the end of the tape!
We pretty much say the same thing. Maybe we are confused cause i dont speak / understand english well. To explain : "Noise retreats to the background" - That's why requires your attention if you actually want to listen it and not use it as background music or to fell for sleep.
Songs are there. You can do something else, but at the end you will remember what you listened -lyrics, melody, rhythm-. Dont require attention, they are easy to 'digest' .
Maybe still i use the wrong words, anyway, we mean the same ...
I see what you mean now. I think you are right that we are saying the same thing, and am reminded of a certain Heidegger quote about needed a really focused mind to actually appreciate noise as noise rather than the sound-of something (such as hearing the low rumbling as a low rumbling rather than the sound of a car's engine as it drives past your house).
I tend to like playing stuff in car on the way to and from work a lot. If having to get the bus on my phone via headphones, this is also good when walking. Soloman mentioned a walkman, I would like to get another one for tapes when out. Often play mp3s from Bandcamp on phone or rip them to disc for car. Play all formats at home when cooking, have kitchen diner and like to listen and review in there a lot. Prefer boombox for kitchen listening with CDs and tapes for some reason. Stereo just used for vinyl.
I have my sound system wired to the back of my computer so I never use headphones, headphones to me are way too constrictive. I like to have tower speakers filling the room with it. No one here seems to mind noise as long as it's not too late and I'm listening to it super later not realizing how loud it really is which happens a lot when I get really lost in something. I both passively and actively enjoy it while I'm on my PC here. If I'm really feeling it I'll just zone out to it, if not I'll do other things. I listen to a pretty wide variety of stuff though so I'm not always getting noisy. I don't know anyone that into music in general and especially not collecting physically so it's a lonely path. Sometimes I do get burned out from music in general and need more silence. I'll even want to enjoy more sometimes but I'll just never feel comfortable listening until I do, hard to explain. I do have some on and off sensory issues though so I'm sure those ups and downs play a role.
I mostly listen at work. Either in headphones or through a speaker in my corner of the shop. I listen to tapes/ records at home when reading, researching or chilling
Quote from: KillToForget on March 16, 2021, 05:04:10 AM
I mostly listen at work. Either in headphones or through a speaker in my corner of the shop. I listen to tapes/ records at home when reading, researching or chilling
I do the same, from researching to chilling I can do it all even when listening to noise. It feels best for me to put it on right after I drank my kratom though as it settles in my system, I can really appreciate the formless nature of things more fully then. I have all my rips on my PC my sound system is always connected to, would be cool if I could get a nice record player wired up tp it I haven't had one in years and it's always a bit different of any experience listening to records above anything else. That would be a real money sink for me right now though. But with the stim checks on the way here I might just actually try to get some pedals and try my hand at some noise myself.
I listen in the car with CD's, usually it's PE or industrial, dark ambient or ritual pieces, black metal, sometimes noise. Eventually I might switch to an mp3 player if the CD player stops working or I have to find another car and I can't find one with a CD player. But I prefer a physical release. At home I will listen to vinyl, cassette or CD, sitting on the couch actively listening and looking at the artwork and reading the notes when I have the time. Rarely around Halloween at night with the lights off I have set up candles and incense and created a whole atmosphere for listening to dark ambient or ritual works with dead branches and other things to create flickering shadows. When I do my art I will listen to more ritual/ambient works from my computer, never PE or noise, doesn't work well with that, though sometimes Rudolf Eb.er's more recent works have been interesting in that context, especially all the flies.
If I was able to drive I would be one of those people that would just drive and go somewhere just to listen to some music in a different context while I'm out than sitting here doing stuff on my computer or whatever in my room. I can feel thing entirely different in different locations with different space properties. I like to watch things like sound checks and all kinds of videos of live music because depending on the context of the source and location of the person recording it will be an entirely different view on it. I've had times where I wasn't really into something until I discovered or remembered a new context in which to enjoy it after the fact.
At home I listen to tapes or bandcamp albums in very quiet volume before going to bed, usually stretching at the same time/reading/sipping tea/beer/petting the cat. At my partners place we often listen to something noisy when we are in the kitchen. Hello from your local woolly socks noise guy!
At home it is cd, tapes or vinyl most time of the day. Via headphones if the lady are working. Spotify and bandcamp when going for a walk or checking out new stuff. And then again cd with headphones when going to sleep. No special rituals or anything because I listen to music most of my waking time. Only places I don't listen to something is when taking a hike in the forest. And our cabin is another place I usually enjoy the total silence when I am there alone. Even thought there are change to listen anything you like as loud as you want, but that usually happens only when I am having a drinks with friend(s).