I swore there was already a thread about Come Org. but I think that it was just the Whitehouse thread I was thinking about.
Anyway, I wanted to know if anyone has ever seen any of the ULTRA videos as listed here:
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wdc886001
ULTRA I
.Features:
..SUTCLIFFE JUGEND interview and music
..PETER KURTEN preview
..WHITEHOUSE LP TRACKS 1 birthdeath experience side A
..PHILIP BEST talks to MARY DOWD
..WHITEHOUSE studio action 1
..KINGS CROSS PROSITIUTION 1982
wdc886002
ULTRA II.
Features:
..CHARLES MANSON family interviews/LP tracks
..WHITEHOUSE LP TRACKS 2 birthdeath experience side B
..SUTCLIFFE JUGEND studio action 1
..RAMLEH interview & music
..PETER SUTCLIFFE trial report
..KINGS CROSS PROSITIUTION 1982
wdc886003
ULTRA III: PETER KURTEN, SADIST & MASS SLAYER
.Features:
..An in-depth documentary of the life & works of
..Peter Kurten, the monster of Dusseldorf, including
..previously unpublished pictures and information.
..With music by WHITEHOUSE, J.S.BACH & BEETHOVEN
wdc886004
ULTRA IV
.Features:
..PETER SUTCLIFFE preview
..WHITEHOUSE LP TRACKS 3 total sex side A
..SUTCLIFFE JUGEND interview & music
..WHITEHOUSE studio action 2
..HERMANN NITSCH a study
..AUSCWITZ / BIRKENAU 1941-82
I've heard the 4th does not exist because the masters were stolen but then someone on the Lawly forums came along and claimed to have copies and I remember reading WB being pissed that Thurston Moore showed all of these at some screening somewhere. Of course this is just hearsay, something that seems to come with the territory when talking about WB and Whitehouse related projects.
Does anyone here have a complete or near complete Come Org collection? I would love to see photos of anyone's collections namely the more rare shit like WDC8850## series for NUPA members.
I had posted a link to the Kata zines on here a while back and I can't find it, it was an "archives" site so if anyone bookmarked that it would be awesome if you linked it in this thread.
Quote from: RyanWreck on December 08, 2012, 04:27:09 AMI had posted a link to the Kata zines on here a while back and I can't find it, it was an "archives" site so if anyone bookmarked that it would be awesome if you linked it in this thread.
QuoteIt's in one of these 6 interviews: http://web.archive.org/web/20011022031906/www.neox.demon.co.uk/whitehouse/archives/interviews/
This site also has a few issues of Kata scanned (issues 2-9 and 14-17 are working): http://web.archive.org/web/20011118144720/http://www.neox.demon.co.uk/whitehouse/archives/come/kata/
http://www.special-interests.net/forum/index.php?topic=1834.35;wap2
Ah, this old chestnut.
Ultra 4 does exist.I have it. I have all four Ultra volumes and before anyone asks ... no, I won't copy them and they are not for sale.
just throw it on the tube for us all to enjoy lol
I saw the first one many years ago.
It was very very funny.
The Ramleh interview was on youtube a while back.
Quote from: theotherjohn on December 08, 2012, 02:07:08 PM
The Ultra videos were shared on Cinemageddon a while ago in shitty nth generation quality by someone on this forum a while ago. Wish I had the originals.
I think I have the videos on some dvdr, but I never actually watched them
The Kevin Tomkins interview from #1 where there's an ice cream truck in the background just as he's talking about how great nuclear apocalypse would be is pricelessly silly. The videos (I've not seen #3 and only seen the SJ extract from #4) are amateurish to say the least and very much of their time. Lots of MB tapes are also featured as 'incidental music', sometimes rendering interviews almost inaudible eg Mary Dowd's ramblings about Kings Cross prostitutes. Jordi Valls does nicely hammy narrations throughout. Terrible UK comedian Jasper Carrot is the unlikely introduction material to #1.
Quote from: tisbor on December 08, 2012, 03:13:29 PM
Quote from: theotherjohn on December 08, 2012, 02:07:08 PM
The Ultra videos were shared on Cinemageddon a while ago in shitty nth generation quality by someone on this forum a while ago. Wish I had the originals.
I think I have the videos on some dvdr, but I never actually watched them
HA, i did the same exact thing!
I think I may still have the same low-quality rips on my external hard-drive, quite the chore to watch if I remember right!
...well these videos just don't sound that great at all.
Quote from: RyanWreck on December 10, 2012, 05:53:51 PM
...well these videos just don't sound that great at all.
I have seen a couple, the quality was too poor to make heads or tails of any of it...
theyre still on cinemageddon except vol. 3+4 that has no seeds at this moment, if anyone needs I have some spare invites.
I grabbed them some time ago but I don't recall ever watching the entire thing.
i got some very bad copies in vhs somewhere at my parents house.
I tried to re-download them from the net but it didn't work.
Brilliant stuff from start to end.
Quote from: RyanWreck on December 10, 2012, 05:53:51 PM
...well these videos just don't sound that great at all.
They are at least funny, not always intentionally, contain some good music and are of historical interest.
If I was gonna find and download a rare industrial video of that era, I'd go instead for Psychic TV's 'First Transmission'. Despite the fact that the idea of the group would turn into a huge steaming pile of shit within a few years time, it's a great intense and disturbing compilation of material which works on levels that the Come Org Ultra things can't compete with.
Quote from: Tenebracid on December 10, 2012, 07:59:52 PMif anyone needs I have some spare invites.
I'm interested if this is still open, perhaps shoot me a PM?
@chiper_chris shoot me a pm with your e-mail, I only have 3 left right now.
anyone has or knows where to find a rip of the 'bleeding images' video?
talking about video releases, one I remember being good stuff is "Not the real criminal" by Premature Ejaculation
The Psychic TV "First Transmissions" is a stand out classic. Also of its time is the South Bank Show feature on Rough Trade Records - features footage of Robert Rental & The Normal live and at home as well as Essential Logic with William Bennett in them ... I also have (this post has had me searching me deep in to the dark recess of my filing cabinet!) a documentry on Death In June (1983..I think) made by some German film maker - also has Coil, Foetus and Tibet in there. Probably ideal for a screening John? S.P.K.'s "Despair" was re-released on DVD, better quality than the original VHS.
Quote from: HongKongGoolagong on December 10, 2012, 11:17:07 PM
If I was gonna find and download a rare industrial video of that era, I'd go instead for Psychic TV's 'First Transmission'.
Ah yes, I've seen this video and enjoyed it, eyes locked on the screen pretty much the whole time up until the Virgin Marry appears.
Someone posted these old Whitehouse pictures on Facebook, looks great..
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v707/impulsemanslaughter/10009818_10152390712141349_715425020_n.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/impulsemanslaughter/media/10009818_10152390712141349_715425020_n.jpg.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v707/impulsemanslaughter/1959581_10152390712206349_327947186_n.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/impulsemanslaughter/media/1959581_10152390712206349_327947186_n.jpg.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v707/impulsemanslaughter/1972385_10152390712311349_975972885_n.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/impulsemanslaughter/media/1972385_10152390712311349_975972885_n.jpg.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v707/impulsemanslaughter/10155907_10152390505906349_1290519679_n.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/impulsemanslaughter/media/10155907_10152390505906349_1290519679_n.jpg.html)
Quote from: theotherjohn on December 11, 2012, 01:14:39 AM
but I'm certainly open to contemporary examples and works from different countries too...
4 hours of madness from Sundsvall? Kristian Olsson did a marathon film about his home town.
Quote from: impulse manslaughter on March 27, 2014, 10:23:00 AM
Someone posted these old Whitehouse pictures on Facebook, looks great..
Featuring the presence of the Neo-Naturist Cabaret involving Christine Binnie among others, these photos must be from the first two or three shows ever in 1982. If these exist then surely someone will soon upload evidence of a contemporaneous Ezy Ryder gig featuring the extraordinary guitarist John Streicher.
Thanks for the Ezy Ryder information - there's some stuff up on YouTube ... going to be hunting for the LP now....
Quote from: Strömkarlen on March 27, 2014, 10:43:17 AM
Quote from: theotherjohn on December 11, 2012, 01:14:39 AM
but I'm certainly open to contemporary examples and works from different countries too...
4 hours of madness from Sundsvall? Kristian Olsson did a marathon film about his home town.
I was told this as well sometime ago. Would be an interesting watch. Anybody seen it?
- Thanx for the photo share Impulse .
Quote from: online prowler on March 28, 2014, 11:26:13 PM
Quote from: Strömkarlen on March 27, 2014, 10:43:17 AM
Quote from: theotherjohn on December 11, 2012, 01:14:39 AM
but I'm certainly open to contemporary examples and works from different countries too...
4 hours of madness from Sundsvall? Kristian Olsson did a marathon film about his home town.
I was told this as well sometime ago. Would be an interesting watch. Anybody seen it?
"dom kallar oss klyktattare" ...saw it 1x, enjoyed it but 4hours is really an effort. Very dark/lowfi&homemade/unfocussed/...without getting artsy. Featuring some Sundsvall VIPs ....great music!
i remember paying rather much (20euro?) for the DVD...wich turned out to be a stickered DVDr (but this was sorted out so noprob).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXRwN_yOBxE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXRwN_yOBxE)
Quote from: P-K on March 30, 2014, 06:25:29 AM
Quote from: online prowler on March 28, 2014, 11:26:13 PM
Quote from: Strömkarlen on March 27, 2014, 10:43:17 AM
Quote from: theotherjohn on December 11, 2012, 01:14:39 AM
but I'm certainly open to contemporary examples and works from different countries too...
4 hours of madness from Sundsvall? Kristian Olsson did a marathon film about his home town.
I was told this as well sometime ago. Would be an interesting watch. Anybody seen it?
"dom kallar oss klyktattare" ...saw it 1x, enjoyed it but 4hours is really an effort. Very dark/lowfi&homemade/unfocussed/...without getting artsy. Featuring some Sundsvall VIPs ....great music!
i remember paying rather much (20euro?) for the DVD...wich turned out to be a stickered DVDr (but this was sorted out so noprob).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXRwN_yOBxE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXRwN_yOBxE)
Is that dvd-r limited or is it still available from somewhere? Tried to check Styggelse etc sites but everyone of them seems out of date or just have 'new blog/site coming soon' as only message on them.
Also, is it subtitled or is it in english?
lim200 says the box, got it from Olsson. not much speech...only BOTC ranting?....without subs :-p
Exciting news: https://www.instagram.com/p/BxKJp9qpDkb/
Quote from: acsenger on May 16, 2019, 12:21:39 AM
Exciting news: https://www.instagram.com/p/BxKJp9qpDkb/
I'm curious to see what will actually end up on this. If it's the early tapes and side-projects that are super hard to find, that's great. If it's the early Whitehouse material, that's also great.
Quote from: totalblack on May 16, 2019, 01:01:19 AM
Quote from: acsenger on May 16, 2019, 12:21:39 AM
Exciting news: https://www.instagram.com/p/BxKJp9qpDkb/
I'm curious to see what will actually end up on this. If it's the early tapes and side-projects that are super hard to find, that's great. If it's the early Whitehouse material, that's also great.
Definitely looking forward to this. Is Susan Lawly still selling VHS's of Whitehouse Live Actions? If not does anyone have any they would be willing to part with?
Heard about an upcoming VOD Whitehouse box but this is probably even better!
Quote from: wonderland_media on May 16, 2019, 05:10:21 AM
Quote from: totalblack on May 16, 2019, 01:01:19 AM
Quote from: acsenger on May 16, 2019, 12:21:39 AM
Exciting news: https://www.instagram.com/p/BxKJp9qpDkb/
I'm curious to see what will actually end up on this. If it's the early tapes and side-projects that are super hard to find, that's great. If it's the early Whitehouse material, that's also great.
Definitely looking forward to this. Is Susan Lawly still selling VHS's of Whitehouse Live Actions? If not does anyone have any they would be willing to part with?
they stopped the VHS tapes a good while back, but were doing (data?) DVDs burned to order.
Quote from: Harvest on May 16, 2019, 07:37:38 PM
Quote from: wonderland_media on May 16, 2019, 05:10:21 AM
Quote from: totalblack on May 16, 2019, 01:01:19 AM
Quote from: acsenger on May 16, 2019, 12:21:39 AM
Exciting news: https://www.instagram.com/p/BxKJp9qpDkb/
I'm curious to see what will actually end up on this. If it's the early tapes and side-projects that are super hard to find, that's great. If it's the early Whitehouse material, that's also great.
Definitely looking forward to this. Is Susan Lawly still selling VHS's of Whitehouse Live Actions? If not does anyone have any they would be willing to part with?
they stopped the VHS tapes a good while back, but were doing (data?) DVDs burned to order.
I think the DVDs can still be ordered: http://www.susanlawly.freeuk.com/pricelist/pricelist.html#Audiotapes (http://www.susanlawly.freeuk.com/pricelist/pricelist.html#Audiotapes)
Got mine maybe two years ago from WB, and I'm glad I have them, though it's of course not my favourite format. But it was a great pleasure to listen through them. So I can recommend to get these.
Quote from: cr on May 17, 2019, 05:09:33 PM
Quote from: Harvest on May 16, 2019, 07:37:38 PM
Quote from: wonderland_media on May 16, 2019, 05:10:21 AM
Quote from: totalblack on May 16, 2019, 01:01:19 AM
Quote from: acsenger on May 16, 2019, 12:21:39 AM
Exciting news: https://www.instagram.com/p/BxKJp9qpDkb/
I'm curious to see what will actually end up on this. If it's the early tapes and side-projects that are super hard to find, that's great. If it's the early Whitehouse material, that's also great.
Definitely looking forward to this. Is Susan Lawly still selling VHS's of Whitehouse Live Actions? If not does anyone have any they would be willing to part with?
they stopped the VHS tapes a good while back, but were doing (data?) DVDs burned to order.
I think the DVDs can still be ordered: http://www.susanlawly.freeuk.com/pricelist/pricelist.html#Audiotapes (http://www.susanlawly.freeuk.com/pricelist/pricelist.html#Audiotapes)
Got mine maybe two years ago from WB, and I'm glad I have them, though it's of course not my favourite format. But it was a great pleasure to listen through them. So I can recommend to get these.
Thanks for all the info!
Not sure if other people are aware of this, but you can still order a bootleg version of the Whitehouse/Come Org file here:
http://www.aes-nihil.com/music.html
The copy-quality is of course a bit poor, but legible none the less. Massive spiral bound book filled with old flyers, interviews, order forms, etc. Also includes all, if not most, of the Katas.
Just shoot them an email to order one.
Quote from: seventhcircle on May 20, 2019, 10:57:19 PM
Not sure if other people are aware of this, but you can still order a bootleg version of the Whitehouse/Come Org file here:
http://www.aes-nihil.com/music.html
The copy-quality is of course a bit poor, but legible none the less. Massive spiral bound book filled with old flyers, interviews, order forms, etc. Also includes all, if not most, of the Katas.
Just shoot them an email to order one.
File? Is it just a book or is there actual music on some format?
I'm guessing it's a boot of the "Birth Death" book published by Strength Through Joy, Seattle WA. It pretty much had everything they could possible find about the label & band-related; interviews, live actions, flyers, reviews, photos, etc.
Yes, it is huge pile of A4 xeroxes somehow binded together. Not like "pro" book, but I recall there is like 300+ pages.
Lyrics, catalogues, etc.
VOD 157: COME ORGANISATION 10Lp Box + 212 p. Book + Bonus 10" lmtd.585
Quote from: impulse manslaughter on August 03, 2019, 10:24:16 AM
VOD 157: COME ORGANISATION 10Lp Box + 212 p. Book + Bonus 10" lmtd.585
Any ideas what the price will be?
No, just saw this announced for late October/early November. I'm guessing 200 euros..
Quote from: impulse manslaughter on August 04, 2019, 02:01:52 AM
No, just saw this announced for late October/early November. I'm guessing 200 euros..
I'm going to start saving....
I thought this 10 LP set was just work by COME so I checked out Discogs thinking they didn't release very much so what the hell is being released. Now I see "organisation" underneath COME. Fuck! What the hell is this box set going to include?!?? Guess I'll have to save money, as well.
Bennett posted a photo on Instagram of an upcoming cd 'legacy edition' of "Total Sex". The double LP had no artwork but this new release looks like the original with text & imagery on the cover.
Quote from: Si Clark on August 04, 2019, 03:54:00 AM
Quote from: impulse manslaughter on August 04, 2019, 02:01:52 AM
No, just saw this announced for late October/early November. I'm guessing 200 euros..
I'm going to start saving....
I'm going to start
starving, i read. Probably cause it reflects what i have to do to get it.
I'm really curious what selection will be included. Will it be Whitehouse/Come/Sutcliffe Jugend/MB or also Manson, Riefenstahl, Imperial Japanese Martial Music, the SS Marches and the various radio broadcasts. That would be great as these are the ones that are impossible to find but I'm guessing these were all unofficial released on CO which will be problematic for a label like VOD. Guess we'll have to wait and see..
I would hope for some selections from the weird tapes, only heard "Examples of Cannibalism" and it is quite a strange one... But to be honest many of them seem pretty pointless to press on vinyl, like the soundtrack to Triumph of the Will, Manson music etc.
What i believe is that it will be the Come lps, "Für Ilse Koch", "Second Coming", "Bradford Red Light District" + some Live Actions, we will see. What i am personally most curious about is the book, hopefully not only the same stuff as in the Birth/Death one but also some other bits and pieces, whatever that might be.
Quote from: magnus on August 06, 2019, 12:06:15 AM
I would hope for some selections from the weird tapes, only heard "Examples of Cannibalism" and it is quite a strange one... But to be honest many of them seem pretty pointless to press on vinyl, like the soundtrack to Triumph of the Will, Manson music etc.
What i believe is that it will be the Come lps, "Für Ilse Koch", "Second Coming", "Bradford Red Light District" + some Live Actions, we will see. What i am personally most curious about is the book, hopefully not only the same stuff as in the Birth/Death one but also some other bits and pieces, whatever that might be.
I was thinking perhaps vinyl versions of the Come Organisation Anthology compilations as well...
Would like to hear Examples Of Cannibalism. Hopefully this tape will be included..
Sold a bunch of stuff to put the money together for this. Don't think I've ever been this excited for a boxset in a long time (ever?). Hopefully we get some info on what's going to be in the box soonish.
I seem to have an odd Box Set preference going on lateley, I bought two Box Sets off Inner Demons Records - Mai12 and Conure this month. I want to get the Culver 10cd box off Stoic Strength very soon as I have seen his Culver and Vampyres projects recently and keep buying Culver stuff on Matching Head (Vampyres is good too btw), The Vomir Box (on Urishma?) is playing on my mind, and I am seriously going to be budgeting to get this Come Org box, just to hear loads I won't have heard before as my knowledge of them doesn't go beyond the Whitehouse stuff. And then I want that Boot vinyl of Sutcliffe Judgend's 'We Spit on Their Graves' one day too if I come into loads of money, hope that resurfaces again on a better price.
Really looking forward to this box too.
Frank updated the VOD Facebook page with this cover photo:
(https://i.ibb.co/Z2sGrqK/68476059-1878896168914289-2530204910981480448-o.jpg) (https://ibb.co/7kcjDsV)
So, Rampton, Second Coming, 150 Murderous Passions, and what I'm presuming is Right to Kill (!!!!) based on the WDC 881033 catalogue number... Exciting. And is that "Come 3" meant to be In Country?
Full details August 26th.
Very curious what the other 5 LPs and "bonus" 10" will be .... also 212 page book, should be an epic set
Come 3 = I'm jack LP
Definitely setting aside cash for this box set.
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Anyone have any comparative studies on what a 10lp/book boxset from VOD usually costs?
So Psychopathia Sexualis DOES exist after all? I want that one, not fussed about the rest. I hope it gets a nice stand alone reissue on CD sometime.
Quote from: GEWALTMONOPOL on August 30, 2019, 07:44:27 PM
So Psychopathia Sexualis DOES exist after all? I want that one, not fussed about the rest. I hope it gets a nice stand alone reissue on CD sometime.
I wonder if there's a story about the studio finding the master listed under a completely different title or something & they were just about to throw it into the garbage?
I'm kinda afraid of what this beast will cost with shipping to the U.S.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on August 30, 2019, 10:50:42 PM
I'm kinda afraid of what this beast will cost with shipping to the U.S.
Germany still boasting the best shipping rates in the world, so it might be OK. The SPK 3x7" wooden box was only like 9eu shipping (or less maybe?). Obviously 10LPs weigh a lot more but I'm not too afraid of that part of the cost myself.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on August 30, 2019, 10:50:42 PM
Quote from: GEWALTMONOPOL on August 30, 2019, 07:44:27 PM
So Psychopathia Sexualis DOES exist after all? I want that one, not fussed about the rest. I hope it gets a nice stand alone reissue on CD sometime.
I wonder if there's a story about the studio finding the master listed under a completely different title or something & they were just about to throw it into the garbage?
I'm kinda afraid of what this beast will cost with shipping to the U.S.
It's mastered from a vinyl copy.
The Come Org. box is up for pre-order on the Vinyl On Demand website (the only place it's gonna be sold apparently) for no less than €289 plus shipping (which, considering the release weighs 6 kilos, is surely not cheap).
I hope one day it gets a reissue as an affordable CD box.
Quote from: acsenger on October 02, 2019, 12:13:41 AM
The Come Org. box is up for pre-order on the Vinyl On Demand website (the only place it's gonna be sold apparently) for no less than €289 plus shipping (which, considering the release weighs 6 kilos, is surely not cheap).
I hope one day it gets a reissue as an affordable CD box.
A bit more expensive than I had hoped. But nonetheless, I don't own 90% of the material so I grabbed it without regret.
Its a huge box with (imo) essential releases which I have been waiting to get. This is the most expensive box set I have bought (+the currency rate is pretty bad for me at the moment) but then again it does include ten lps+book. I don't think there would be many other box sets I would have dropped that kind of an amount on, would have done so for early Sutcliffe Jugend box but not much else.
Some of the releases found in the box cost more than the whole box by themselves.
In any case I think I'll have to put other purchases on hold for a while if I want to stay married.
How much was postage?
Paid without hesitation, came up to 298 euro with postage (and after VAT deduction since I'm not in Europe). Not cheap, but when you consider some (metal) labels are charging 20+ euro for a single LP these days, and given what you're getting in the box, I'd say it's alright.
Shipping was 40~45 euro to Malaysia if I recall correctly. Not bad for 6 kilos halfway across the world.
Trigger pulled. Fuck it.
I wonder if the individual LP's are housed in replica sleeves of the original releases or whether there's some new design being used. I'm more than tempted to pull the trigger myself, but I would love to hear that the original artwork of the LP's have been preserved.
Along with all the records, the fact that the book contains all 19 Katas makes it worth the price of admission for me.
Quote from: ロックン·ロール on October 02, 2019, 11:34:50 PM
I wonder if the individual LP's are housed in replica sleeves of the original releases or whether there's some new design being used. I'm more than tempted to pull the trigger myself, but I would love to hear that the original artwork of the LP's have been preserved.
Frank had posted some photos on the VOD Facebook of the covers fresh off the printing press, all looked faithful to the originals (well, as far as I can tell based off of images on Discogs etc). I can't seem to find them on the page anymore though, for some reason.
Quote from: akhlq on October 02, 2019, 04:24:04 PM
Paid without hesitation, came up to 298 euro with postage (and after VAT deduction since I'm not in Europe). Not cheap, but when you consider some (metal) labels are charging 20+ euro for a single LP these days, and given what you're getting in the box, I'd say it's alright.
Shipping was 40~45 euro to Malaysia if I recall correctly. Not bad for 6 kilos halfway across the world.
VAT got removed from your order? I'm in the US and I was still charged VAT... strange.
Quote from: yosef666 on October 05, 2019, 05:59:10 AM
Quote from: akhlq on October 02, 2019, 04:24:04 PM
Paid without hesitation, came up to 298 euro with postage (and after VAT deduction since I'm not in Europe). Not cheap, but when you consider some (metal) labels are charging 20+ euro for a single LP these days, and given what you're getting in the box, I'd say it's alright.
Shipping was 40~45 euro to Malaysia if I recall correctly. Not bad for 6 kilos halfway across the world.
VAT got removed from your order? I'm in the US and I was still charged VAT... strange.
I would contact them. I also live in the USA and was not charged VAT.
Quote from: murderous_vision on October 05, 2019, 03:24:19 PM
Quote from: yosef666 on October 05, 2019, 05:59:10 AM
Quote from: akhlq on October 02, 2019, 04:24:04 PM
Paid without hesitation, came up to 298 euro with postage (and after VAT deduction since I'm not in Europe). Not cheap, but when you consider some (metal) labels are charging 20+ euro for a single LP these days, and given what you're getting in the box, I'd say it's alright.
Shipping was 40~45 euro to Malaysia if I recall correctly. Not bad for 6 kilos halfway across the world.
VAT got removed from your order? I'm in the US and I was still charged VAT... strange.
I would contact them. I also live in the USA and was not charged VAT.
Just double checked my receipt & I was not charged VAT... it was still showing up during checkout but must have been automatically removed at payment.
Very, very excited to receive this, especially to take a look at the book.
Me as well. The preview sheets that were posted on social media look amazing.
Quote from: yosef666 on October 07, 2019, 08:08:44 PM
Quote from: murderous_vision on October 05, 2019, 03:24:19 PM
Quote from: yosef666 on October 05, 2019, 05:59:10 AM
Quote from: akhlq on October 02, 2019, 04:24:04 PM
Paid without hesitation, came up to 298 euro with postage (and after VAT deduction since I'm not in Europe). Not cheap, but when you consider some (metal) labels are charging 20+ euro for a single LP these days, and given what you're getting in the box, I'd say it's alright.
Shipping was 40~45 euro to Malaysia if I recall correctly. Not bad for 6 kilos halfway across the world.
VAT got removed from your order? I'm in the US and I was still charged VAT... strange.
BTW, did anyone receive an actual invoice? I only got a receipt from PayPal.
I would contact them. I also live in the USA and was not charged VAT.
Just double checked my receipt & I was not charged VAT... it was still showing up during checkout but must have been automatically removed at payment.
Very, very excited to receive this, especially to take a look at the book.
Quote from: murderous_vision on October 08, 2019, 12:50:04 AM
BTW, did anyone receive an actual invoice? I only got a receipt from PayPal.
Mine went straight to my Spam folder. I would check there first. The receipt / invoice was sent from VOD-Records <frank@vod-records.com>
Quote from: MyrtleLake on October 08, 2019, 01:09:04 AM
Quote from: murderous_vision on October 08, 2019, 12:50:04 AM
BTW, did anyone receive an actual invoice? I only got a receipt from PayPal.
Mine went straight to my Spam folder. I would check there first. The receipt / invoice was sent from VOD-Records <frank@vod-records.com>
Yep, that's where mine went too!
Thanks for the heads up on the VOD invoice ending up in spam, was wondering why I didn't get an email...
Last preview pictures on Frank's Facebook are looking great. Was low on cash for a few weeks but finally placed my order today. Looking forward to receiving this.
Received the box today, looks fantastic indeed!
This site used to have some whitehouse/come related zines, not sure if they are still on there http://shock-corridor.blogspot.com/?m=0 . There is another one that is fantastic but I have it saved on my home computer. I will dig it up when I get out of work and post the link.
Remaining copies available at SOUND OHM/Italy (https://www.soundohm.com/product/come-organisation-box-set/pid/37306/)
€360 though..
Quote from: IRONFLAME.de on January 11, 2020, 11:35:02 PM
Remaining copies available at SOUND OHM/Italy (https://www.soundohm.com/product/come-organisation-box-set/pid/37306/)
€360 though..
Rumour has it the Best will be releasing a deluxe issue early this year. Packaged with three bonus posters portraying Buchenwald, Treblinka and Dachau. Limited to 88 copies to please the SI audience. Beautifully packaged in a wood box made out of the finest of trees from the english forest. Available soon at your local record shop. MSRP £899. The first 20 copies will come with a Whitehouse patch.
360 includes worldwide shipping and the extra shirt/pin.. It's not too bad.
Quote from: IRONFLAME.de on January 11, 2020, 11:35:02 PM
Remaining copies available at SOUND OHM/Italy (https://www.soundohm.com/product/come-organisation-box-set/pid/37306/)
€360 though..
Ordered, thanks for the link!
I started listening to my copy tonight and noticed the Für Ilse Koch LP is censored. Altered sleeve (without list of artists) and Himmler speech was left off. I understand rules in Germany are strict and VOD is worried about imago/sales but still, it sucks to have an incomplete version of this great LP.
Quote from: impulse manslaughter on January 18, 2020, 12:36:41 AM
I started listening to my copy tonight and noticed the Für Ilse Koch LP is censored. Altered sleeve (without list of artists) and Himmler speech was left off. I understand rules in Germany are strict and VOD is worried about imago/sales but still, it sucks to have an incomplete version of this great LP.
Why don't you buy the original? I'm not 100% sure but it might actually be illegal to publish it unaltered over here (hate speech law), bear in mind you have to work with GEMA licensing, pressing plant, mastering agency, etc. You would essentially risk the whole release and potentially your business, just to put "Heinrich Himmler" on a sleeve and a Hitler speech on top of a track that the artist isn't even cool with? Seems a bit silly
Yes, like I said I understand why it's not included. Just would've liked to get a complete version of this record, esp. considering the title/concept.
Listened to about half of the records now. Sound is good, although I'm Jack is very low in volume. Maybe it's because of the low bass frequencies.
Also, I started reading the book and it seems Benneth is rewriting history a little bit in his own favor.. stuff like "their mix sounds so different and so disappointingly poor because , to mark its origins, reverb and other effects were clumsily added" or "joint project Leibstandarte SS MB". Also, it appears to have Kata 1 missing and Kata 7 and 8 have the exact same content. Does anybody knows if this is a mistake..? Just wondering as I've never seen the originals.
Quote from: deutscheasphalt on January 18, 2020, 01:32:50 AM
Quote from: impulse manslaughter on January 18, 2020, 12:36:41 AM
it sucks to have an incomplete version of this great LP.
Why don't you buy the original?
Uhh, easier said than done? Shame about the censoring but to third your opinion it's understandable.
Don't own the originals, but I'll dig out my copy of Birthdeath to see what the issue is with the Kata (or the Kata is with the issue). I don't think there was ever a Kata 1 from my recollections of lurking on the old Susan Lawly forum. And the information about 150 MP and LL SS MB looks to be the same info as the FAQ on the Susan Lawly website.
It would be nice to own this box set from a fetish standpoint but unless the book is vastly different from the aformentioned Birth Death/Come Org Files books then I'll be quite happy with audio rips and fanatical Japanese collectors sharing high quality scans of the original LPs on Instagram.
Quote from: theotherjohn on January 19, 2020, 04:30:20 PM
Quote from: deutscheasphalt on January 18, 2020, 01:32:50 AM
Quote from: impulse manslaughter on January 18, 2020, 12:36:41 AM
it sucks to have an incomplete version of this great LP.
Why don't you buy the original?
Uhh, easier said than done?
Great point, literally anything is easier said than done dude..
Are these discogs listings for sale like all unofficial re-issues in poor quality or am I confusing something?
Ik have 5 originals that are in this box and when I see a reasonable priced copy in good condition I will buy it for sure but since I have this box now I'm not so much in a hurry..
Sweet, yeah was just wondering since the listing is blocked but there's still copies for sale which irritated me
The Japanese bootlegs are blocked. A black vinyl original in VG+ or better condition will be something like 150 euros these days I guess..
Quote from: deutscheasphalt on January 19, 2020, 05:22:51 PM
Quote from: theotherjohn on January 19, 2020, 04:30:20 PM
Quote from: deutscheasphalt on January 18, 2020, 01:32:50 AM
Quote from: impulse manslaughter on January 18, 2020, 12:36:41 AM
it sucks to have an incomplete version of this great LP.
Why don't you buy the original?
Uhh, easier said than done?
Great point, literally anything is easier said than done dude..
And a great snarky reply from you too, 'dude'. If someone's dropped 200+ Euros on a box set for the collector market that is lacking in a crucial detail (what with it being a Nazi themed compilation), the last thing they want to be told is something along the lines of "oh well, just buy an original copy of that very limited and equally expensive LP that came out almost 40 years ago".
Quote from: theotherjohn on January 19, 2020, 07:48:28 PM
Quote from: deutscheasphalt on January 19, 2020, 05:22:51 PM
Quote from: theotherjohn on January 19, 2020, 04:30:20 PM
Quote from: deutscheasphalt on January 18, 2020, 01:32:50 AM
Quote from: impulse manslaughter on January 18, 2020, 12:36:41 AM
it sucks to have an incomplete version of this great LP.
Why don't you buy the original?
Uhh, easier said than done?
Great point, literally anything is easier said than done dude..
And a great snarky reply from you too, 'dude'. If someone's dropped 200+ Euros on a box set for the collector market that is lacking in a crucial detail (what with it being a Nazi themed compilation), the last thing they want to be told is something along the lines of "oh well, just buy an original copy of that very limited and equally expensive LP that came out almost 40 years ago".
You inserted yourself into the conversation with a snarky comment, noone was talking to you so stop speaking for other people and taking things out of context. I never said what you quoted here but I think you did a great job (this time for real) pointing that out cause that's what collecting is.
Quote from: deutscheasphalt on January 19, 2020, 08:06:53 PM
You inserted yourself into the conversation with a snarky comment, noone was talking to you so stop speaking for other people and taking things out of context. I never said what you quoted here but I think you did a great job (this time for real) pointing that out cause that's what collecting is.
Ah, so just like you did then? I don't see any recent earlier replies from you in here before you interjected either. Glad to see you get special privileges. And I did contribute within context to the forum thread (a forum thread, unlike a conversation, isn't for a select few - anyone who's a forum member here can post into it whenever they like if they feel it contributes to the subject on hand). Anyway, bickering seems to be a consistent trait with your forum posts, so I'll stop here before I too get carried away from what this thread is about. Feel free to get the last word in if it makes you feel better, but I'd also rather return to discussing Come Org.
It is amusing that revision goes around full circle though in regards to the missing Himmler track - you can't please the protesters who want taboo details being excluded, or the collectors wanting the original record unexpurgated. Kind of surprised he didn't meddle with Right To Kill or Psychopathia Sexualis either. Maybe WB/VOD should have just avoided the issue altogether and replaced Fur Ilse Koch's inclusion with one of the other novelty cassette releases Come put out or the 7" Come single?
Quote from: theotherjohn on January 19, 2020, 08:42:06 PM
Ah, so just like you did then?
True!
I don't think leaving out the Himmler track has anything to do with pleasing protesters rather than legal issues and in my opinion it's petty to complain about a missing nazi speech. Feel free to disagree of course.
Quote from: impulse manslaughter on January 19, 2020, 01:27:18 PMAlso, it appears to have Kata 1 missing and Kata 7 and 8 have the exact same content. Does anybody knows if this is a mistake..? Just wondering as I've never seen the originals.
Definitely interested in a concrete answer to this.
Quote from: sterilization on January 20, 2020, 01:27:47 AM
Quote from: impulse manslaughter on January 19, 2020, 01:27:18 PMAlso, it appears to have Kata 1 missing and Kata 7 and 8 have the exact same content. Does anybody knows if this is a mistake..? Just wondering as I've never seen the originals.
Definitely interested in a concrete answer to this.
By the looks of things it's a mistake. There is a copy of Kata 7 on line that is unreadable but to me at any rate looks different (lay out etc). It appears Kata 8 has been printed twice but I'm willing to stand corrected if they are the same.
i haven't got the come org box but over the years i've gotten quite a few boxes from vod with issues, lp sleeves missing, doubles of lps etc.
when you're printing such huge volumes of these massive boxes and having to pack all the elements together, mistakes can happen. but still v annoying when you've just dropped 200+ euro or whatever
Anyone stateside receive their boxset yet? Fever pitch excitement over here...
Re: Himmler
I was thinking about the track Roman Strength from New Britain -- I am not sure who the German speaking fellow is, and also my German skills are very poor so not sure what he's going on about but I get the feeling that may very well also be, how you say, problematic?
I'm sure that was the whole point!
He probably wouldn't do it today, but you've got to remember that political correctness wasn't nearly as virulent in the early 1980s as it is now - despite the fact that we were closer to the war then.
Quote from: Tommy Carlsson on January 23, 2020, 10:25:48 PM
Re: Himmler
I was thinking about the track Roman Strength from New Britain -- I am not sure who the German speaking fellow is, and also my German skills are very poor so not sure what he's going on about but I get the feeling that may very well also be, how you say, problematic?
It's a 1932 Goebbels speech. Content is standard for its time: anti-communist, conservative odalist appeal to tradition. Was 100% used for pure provocation and any projection of deeper meaning is conjecture.
Quote from: impulse manslaughter on January 12, 2020, 11:12:32 PM
360 includes worldwide shipping and the extra shirt/pin.. It's not too bad.
I agree. It's such a good deal that i was on the fence whether to buy this or get two Autechre NTS (12 LP) box sets for €60 less (ppd both). Noise today can be good business. And if you want to find people who will throw 360 for a remastered re-released 10LP box set, you'll be successful aiming for the PE crowd. Hopefully they don't sound as lifeless as the Susan Lawly's reissues from the 90s. How anyone can be deeply into Whitehouse from listening to those is beyond me.
Maybe in a couple of years we can get audiophile reissues like this one with a fitting and reasonable pricetag: https://www.discogs.com/John-Coltrane-Coltrane/release/12386018
Quote from: accidental on January 27, 2020, 01:11:44 PM
Maybe in a couple of years we can get audiophile reissues like this one with a fitting and reasonable pricetag: https://www.discogs.com/John-Coltrane-Coltrane/release/12386018
I would be very sceptical if someone ever wanted to sell me an 'audiophile' Whitehouse and related reissue ! - I have no idea what the original masters are. R2R or cassette ? How / where they were recorded ? Etc. - But even tagging a Whitehouse reissue as audiophile is dubious enough, i think.
Quote from: accidental on January 27, 2020, 01:11:44 PM
Quote from: impulse manslaughter on January 12, 2020, 11:12:32 PM
360 includes worldwide shipping and the extra shirt/pin.. It's not too bad.
I agree. It's such a good deal that i was on the fence whether to buy this or get two Autechre NTS (12 LP) box sets for €60 less (ppd both). Noise today can be good business. And if you want to find people who will throw 360 for a remastered re-released 10LP box set, you'll be successful aiming for the PE crowd. Hopefully they don't sound as lifeless as the Susan Lawly's reissues from the 90s. How anyone can be deeply into Whitehouse from listening to those is beyond me.
I was comparing the Soundohm price with the original asking price directly from the label.
I was initially expecting this to be cheaper but obviously the packaging of this is pretty expensive and we don't know what VOD paid Benneth for the licenses. But yeah, I'd like to hear opinions about the mastering as well..