Pure label has quite special meaning for me personally. 1994, having just released couple Grunt tapes, I decided to sent Ron "One animal Above The Others" tape, and received in trade Emil Beaulieau "memories" CD, with catalogue and list of items. Seeing these items were just 20usd for 3 discs, as opposed to what CD's/LP's and for example Jap import tapes generally cost, it became my ultimate top-1 source to check out bands. And why not? Even if catalogue at first (early parts always came with list of pure discs that had been releases. Along "Memories" list consist only 7 releases that were out (Aube, Sudden Infant and 5 Emil Beauliea discs + future releases listing bunch of stuff, and not all of them even came out (like Borbetomagus members solo discs)) was small, it grew rapidly. In just couple of years, you could see that it covered not only the top players of the time, but newcomers and re-issues of old stuff. Not only noise, but PE, industrial, experimental. Not only USA or Japan, but basically anywhere. Japan, France, Switzerland, Usa, UK, Germany,... Even if presentation was cheap and uniform, nothing else is. Thinking one could grab stuff of hottest jap artists (Aube, MSBR, Violent Onsen Geisha, Pain Jerk, K2, Incapacitants, etc) or old power electronics re-issues (Ramleh, Le Syndicat, Consumer Electronics, DMDN..) new power electronics (Deathpile, Murder Corporation, Söldnergeist,..) experimental humorous weirdness (R&G, Sudden Infant, Smell & Quim..), experimental sound (AMK, PBK, Pig City Orchestra,..) grim noise harshness (Chop Shop, Knurl, Dead Body Love, JTCH, etc) and it all seamlessly fits under one label name... This was really influential for my own operations as well.
I would dare to say this series molded more than one generation of newcomers in noise. It may appear quite irrelevant label at 2013, when most of bands who were new & upcoming, have quit. Some obscurities never became anything (who the hell is Fab44, Naj, 666VBN,.. etc?!). With c. 15-20 years years after stuff was published - with probably tens of thousands of new bands & releases happened after that... why bother?
I tell you why:
Every time I pick up some old Pure releases, I see exactly why it was put out. There is hardly ANY titles that could be said it lacks in quality. Due diversity, you may not like them all, but most likely is possible to see why it is great release.
Besides that, almost every title is available still in 2013. Hottest titles has been re-pressed over the years. Most unknown ones are still the original disc that came out. In times when labels are so busy making batches and move on to next, I find it very interesting that someone had probably vision, that this is not just flavor of the month or year, not the new trend to jump into, but pretty much TIMELESS noise, as good in 2013 as it was in 1995.
I don't have time right now, but thought to write some words of as many titles as I have energy to do (similar to GROSS topic or Xn topic). Feel free to write comments of label OR review individual releases.
It appears as if I'm missing one title anymore. When I look the catalogue, there is annoying moment of knowing that either 1) I have it somewhere I don't know and can't locate or 2) I don't have it. I have sold (and am still selling A LOT of pure releases. Most priced 6 euro each - hint!!), anything willing to trade me copies of:
** Le Syndicat "rectitude" CD **
ALL MUST BE ORIGINAL Pure disc cardboard packaging. I see these titles being sold for couple of euro range, but willing to trade cd for cd for any regular price discs on FA catalogue. I have the new cover versions in my mailorder, but just want the original packaging. So disc quality doesn't have to be mint.
Pure
Profile (according to discogs)
Pure was started in 1994 by RRRecords as a series of very affordable CDs by a wide range of experimental and noise musicians.
All releases were packaged in identical black & white slipcases, with a sticker on the front giving the artist and title. Most also included a fold-over insert advertising other releases in the series. The release notes were typically part of the CD artwork itself.
The series was officially stopped as of January 1, 2000. All remaining Pure CDs were repackaged by RRRecords in black sleeves with new cut-up style paper covers pasted on, unique to each release. However, the label did have one posthumous release in 2005 (LHD's "Opaque", in the original Pure packaging).
discography according to discogs:
*none Aube Purification To Numbness (Album) ◄ 1994
*none Sudden Infant Solothurn ◄ (3 versions) 1994
*none Emil Beaulieau Memories (CD) 1994
*none Emil Beaulieau Dedicated To Richard Rupenus (CD) 1997
*none Emil Beaulieau Kill The All-Noise Japanese Artists (CD) 1995
*DIDX-029401 Emil Beaulieau Dedicated To Charlie Ward (CD)
*none Emil Beaulieau Dedicated To Masami Akita (CD) 1997
*DIDX-031038 Consumer Electronics Teenage Nuremburg (CD, Album) 1995
*DIDX-031039 Ramleh We Created It, Let's Take It Over Vol I (CD) 1995
*DIDX-031040 Ramleh We Created It, Let's Take It Over Vol II (CD) 1995
*DIDX-031041 Ramleh We Created It, Let's Take It Over Vol III (CD) 1995
DIDX-031042 Evil Moisture & Macronympha The Tentacles Of The Octopus Sometimes Compete Against Each Other (CD) 1995
*none Haters, The Ordinarily Nowhere (CD) 1995
*none Incapacitants Ministry Of Foolishness ◄ (2 versions) 1995
*none Dead Body Love Maximum Dose ◄ (2 versions) 1996
*PURE 15 Runzelstirn & Gurgelstøck Dein Mund So Rot... ◄ (2 versions) 1995
*PURE 16 Phaeton Dernière Danse & Le Syndicat Théophanie À Visu (CD) 1995
*PURE 17 Knurl Nervescrap (CD) 1996
*PURE 18 Violent Onsen Geisha The Midnight Gambler ◄ (2 versions) 1996
*PURE 19 Smell & Quim Diameter Of Elvis' Colon ◄ (2 versions) 1995
*PURE 20 Chop Shop (3) plays Emil Beaulieau Red & Buried (CD) 1995
*PURE 21 Total (2) Glassy Warhead (Album) ◄ (3 versions) 1995
*PURE 22 Naj Resituation Smile (CD) 1995
*PURE 23 Zone Nord Roferon A (CD)
xxx PURE 24 Impact Test Gangwar (CD) 1995
*PURE 25 MSBR Destructive Locomotion Dedicated To Chizuo Matsumoto ◄ (2 versions) 1995
*PURE 26 Pain Jerk Trashware ◄ (2 versions) 1995
*PURE 27 FAB.44 Majik On The Moonlight (CD) 1997
*PURE 28 Rend (2) Proberta Gerber ◄ (2 versions) 1996
*PURE29 AMK Play (Album) ◄ (2 versions) 1995
*PURE 30 Le Syndicat Corrumpate (CD, Album, RE) 1995
*PURE 31 Le Syndicat Relikat & Schraguemusik (CD) 1995
xxx PURE 32 Le Syndicat Rectitude (CD, Album, RE) 1995
*PURE 33 Kiyoshi Mizutani Millstone (CD, Album) 1995
*PURE 34 Masonna Noisextra (Album) ◄ (2 versions) 1995
*PURE 35 PBK / Hands To / AMK System-Music-End (CD, Album, Comp) 1995
*PURE 36 Crawl Unit Proprietary Acoustics (CD, Album) 1996
*PURE 37 Thurston Moore Please Just Leave Me (My Paul Desmond) (CD) 1996
*PURE 38 Japanese Torture Comedy Hour 50,000 Elvis Fans Can't Be Wrong ◄ (2 versions) 1996
*PURE 39 Cock E.S.P. Greatest Dicks ◄ (2 versions) 1996
*PURE 40 K2 Molekular Terrorism (CD, Album) 1996
*PURE 41 Toy Bizarre KDI DCTB 07 (TB-D Remixes) (CD, RE) 1996
*PURE 42 Pig Shity Orgestraw* Instructions For Use (CD) 1996
*PURE 43 Murder Corporation New Crimes ◄ (2 versions) 1996
*PURE 44 DMDN Sling Trip (Comp, Album) ◄ (2 versions) 1994
*PURE 45 Merzbow Merzbow Loves Emil Beaulieau (CD) 1996
*PURE 46 666 Volt Battery Noise Audio Super-Predator ◄ (2 versions) 1997
xxx PURE 47 En Nihil Blood Dreams (CD) 1997
*PURE 48 Akala Delicate Instruction (CD) 1996
*PURE 50 TAC Out Of Context (CD) 1997
*PURE 51 Söldnergeist Terror (CD) 2001
*PURE 52 Prick Decay Mud Sound For Car Stereos ◄ (2 versions) 1995
*PURE 53 Putrefier Trace Element Syntax (CD) 1997
*PURE 54 Deathpile Ne Plus Ultra (CD, Album, Ltd) 1997
*PURE 55 R.H.Y.: Yau* :Contiguous: (CD)
none LHD Opaque (CD) 2005
I appreciate the simplicity of the packaging. Easy to post and store slipcases with little fuss. And Ron can be very generous with these in trades.
I think I only have one Pure release, which is Deathpile's "Ne Plus Ultra". It made a big impact on me as listener and later as an artist as it was one of the first power electronics albums I ever bought. I still think it's Deathpile's best work too, even better than "GR". I got it from Hospital Productions at Dom's recommendation.
Some of the first noise that I ever got was RRR Junk Noise Omnibus and Pure discs. Early 2000s someone sold a bunch of them and I managed to pick up quiet a few.
Masonna disc is a real classic with two tracks from each of his separate styles.
Ramleh discs now made redundant by 'Awake!' set, but I have a nice rare Broken Flag edition of all three wrapped in transparencies.
Consumer Electronics is classic archive material with some funny stuff too - and of course much easier to find than the RRR box.
Things like Merzbow, R&G, Total, Cock ESP, Aube were all solid releases of quality material by the artists and for a budget price.
The Thurston Moore disc is very difficult listening of high pitched feedback tones. I gave my copy to a 90s era Sonic Youth fan to confuse them. Probably the most difficult listening of all the Pure releases I've heard is the bizarre and conceptual K Mizutani album.
Great and very influential label, great idea from RRRon.
I oike them a Lot, since you can listen to the Music really cheap. Specially with some Bigger Bands it is essential to know, if you like it or not. I have a Lot of them and some are even better (in my opinion) than the "normal" releases (like Consumer Electronics, Violent Ohnsen Geisha)
This rare mispress looks like a fun thing to own - http://www.discogs.com/Chicago-Group-Portrait-CD3/release/4022485
Rend are one of the lesser known acts on the label but I remember their Pure disc as being good noise.
Aube Purification To Numbness
Is his VCO recordings. Painful at times, certainly his most noisiest sources, often even annoying oscillator sounds. I guess Pulse Resonator could be better, but when thinking Praxis Dr Bearmann LP+7" special set... or cheap priced CD... CD will be certainly worth it!
Sudden Infant Solothurn
For clueless kid like myself, hearing material what contains very physical and daily sounds of vocals, water, tape manipulations, was very unusual after hearing lots of "noise". I had no experience of musique concrete nor electro-acoustic, and SI taking some influence from such things, but approaching it from "underground noise" perspective made it very interesting.
Emil Beaulieau Memories (CD) 1994
The more simple, straight forward, one-dimensional EB recordings, with utterly powerful single sounds of rumbling noise. No multitracking, no density, just pure and raw noise sounds, often ripped from someone elses records. One with R&G record - simply possessed my ears for decades. I can't get enough of that track. Absolute classic. Is it EB's achievement or not, hah, I don't care. He made great selection of other peoples work.
Emil Beaulieau Dedicated To Richard Rupenus (CD) 1997
Emil Beaulieau Kill The All-Noise Japanese Artists (CD) 1995
Emil Beaulieau Dedicated To Charlie Ward (CD)
Emil Beaulieau Dedicated To Masami Akita (CD) 1997
All these are much more dense and busy albums. They're all minutoli records, meaning the usage of 4 arm turntable, playing other peoples noise records, malforming, looping, destroying into new noise masterpieces. If you ask me, the order of brilliance is: Masami, Rupenus, Japanese and finally Ward. Charming sound of turntable needle fucking up broken records. Sounds much more harsh and fierce than many pedal/contact mic type of records. They are not heavy by any means. Just broken and dislocated.
Consumer Electronics Teenage Nuremburg (CD, Album) 1995
As said be Hongkonggoolagong, it's very hard to buy any old CE stuff. Rare tapes or rare vinyl boxes are out there, but if you want something what ain't going to put you bankrupt, this is it. Shortwave radio old school power electronics and kids having fun.
Ramleh We Created It, Let's Take It Over Vol I (CD) 1995
Ramleh We Created It, Let's Take It Over Vol II (CD) 1995
Ramleh We Created It, Let's Take It Over Vol III (CD) 1995
As said, you may not need these if you go for AWAKE box. Their sound is thin compared to old tapes or records. Don't know why. But for me personally, highly influential releases. When I heard these, and when I got access to first delay effect... huh... fuck, delay drenched feedbacking vocals was all you could heard in Grunt for next couple of years!
Evil Moisture & Macronympha The Tentacles Of The Octopus Sometimes Compete Against Each Other (CD) 1995
Tape noise on CD. That's what it is, I think. Not loud, no brutal,... but well, it is. But its something what rather would have been regular tape release than "cd album".
Haters, The Ordinarily Nowhere (CD) 1995
My most listened noise album ever. I think this has almost everything what needs to have in noise. So many times I tried to capture atmosphere of the album, without copying or imitating it. There are two stories I have heard what it actually is. One from RRRon, one from GX. Both have mentioned they did most of the album stuff, hah.. I would guess it is most of all sounds of Haters "In shades of fire" album, but even more monolithic. If I say WALL NOISE LIKE IT SHOULD BE, believe me!
Incapacitants Ministry Of Foolishness cd
So, you got to choose, do you take Opaque, As Loud As Possible, El Shanbara Therminosis or this. Latest mentioned, should be still available easily (from Freak Animal at least! Re-issue by Segerhuva), but Ministry of Foolishness doesn't lose anything when compared to all these others which constitute the milestones of this more electronic, more heavy and dense era of Incapacitants. It is not as fierce and irritating as the early days feedback and hight pitch crackle, but you can simply sink into busy walls of electronics as if it was ambient!
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For myself, the most notable thing about it is how brilliant it was from a business perspective.
Quote from: Zeno Marx on February 01, 2013, 11:35:55 PM
For myself, the most notable thing about it is how brilliant it was from a business perspective.
As far as I can make out the fellow makes a kind of living from a more regular second-hand-record business, and while RRR and Pure as a label didn't exactly enjoy losing money (who does?) I have serious doubts that he has made much from the experimental and noise output over the years.
Maybe it's because the very first record I ever ordered from overseas (Eugene Chadbourne 'Country Music from SE Australia') was an early RRR release, maybe it is his generosity when it comes to trade deals, and maybe I'm being too kind about the wildly variable quality of his labels' output, but I would say RRRon is one of the most positive and open-minded influences on this scene there is. Have only ever met him once very briefly, but there are very few artists or label managers who have proved themselves as bullshit-free, good-humoured and trustworthy as this gentleman.
Well, I guess there is more in good business than just making tons of money?
One could think that you minimize costs, you minimize needs of work (individual artwork, packaging, difficulties of shipping). And thinking what was usual price of CD in 1994, I think 3 for 20usd was basically price you couldn't get even one CD or LP from certain labels. It would be safe to say he moved tens of thousands of discs, which may not make any significant income compared to... ehm.. "real job", but whether these titles was moved by retail or trades, it still is probably something very different that trying to operate with tapes or LP's or even regular priced discs, which are hard to put out in such a pace due demand of attention to packaging and individual artwork, costs of making, time of making, space of storaging,
To get both known bands, and not known bands, but sell cd's in bulk, you could possibly lure people to try other discs they knew nothing about. At least I ordered things like 2 guaranteed names and pick up 3rd I knew nothing about. And then bands like Zone Nord or Rend - would you have ordered if being 12-15usd CD on main catalogue?
Probably not so urgently. I guess one of the absolute key ideas businesswise is the batch of 3. So also names with no status move better. I guess same idea is used later by many labels. Putting out batches, so all sells better, than release individual titles, when only hottest titles are ordered instantly and rest later. When option to save time, money(shipping), people grab more.
One could also mention that Groundfault and PacRec both refined the concept. Groundfault had the quite uniform design, but all new sound (no re-issues) and full color jewelbox. PacRec was unique artwork in everything, but most discs packaged in cardboardsleeves. His pricing went further, being 20usd for 3, 5usd for each additional. 5USD, sometimes for full color jewelbox regular CD release, should be very good for any customer. But for distributors, it becames very hard to carry items what should be sold for less than (for example my own releases often cost to-) manufacture.
Nothing much to add, great label!
Getting tons of Pure CDs in trade from Ron provided hours and hours of top quality noise entertainment. I can consider quite a few Pure releases among my favorite noise records.
Yeah, nothing much to add either ... was a great label. My personal favourites are the Soldnergeist and Toy Bizarre releases. I remember buying the Ramleh releases from Depth Charge shop in York and being disappointed by the lack of information and professionalism in the packaging, but then as I realised it was part of some "bargain" series I started collecting. There was a magazine called "Progress Report" that gave away copies.
I suppose RRRon is carrying on the ideal with Recycled Music tapes?
Ron said once that Recycled series is his best business idea. Considering, that this simply transforms ANY tape worth of 4 bucks. Its most of all recycled mainstream tapes, but already years ago mentioned he started to dub over dead stock of other labels noise tapes.. haha! But I guess, it hardly matters. Recycled series is, however, completely different league in terms of focus and quality. Not that there wouldn't be some good tapes, but it's more of idea in general, that whether each tape is worth having or listening...
Dead Body Love Maximum Dose ◄ (2 versions) 1996
Lets see... If the masterminds like THE RITA keeps hailing DBL as one of ultimate noise mongers, there is something unusual here. I usually preferred his "PE copycat" project Discordance, but this synth noise project harshness is without doubt very strong in deep bass rumble and oscillating harshness. While it lacks my favorite elements of physical/feedback/"body noise" - without doubt its heavy and hard.
*PURE 15 Runzelstirn & Gurgelstøck Dein Mund So Rot... ◄ (2 versions) 1995
You know what it is. When I first heard it, I was almost shocked by amount of air on disc. Meaning, first whole aspect of timing and composition was lost on me, when it seemed like guys waiting and waiting, until single hit of hammer on some rubber toy making clonk & whistle... and then waiting again. But sooner or later genius quality of disc revealed itself to me. Hard, bizarre, odd, and somewhat retarded avantgarde!
*PURE 17 Knurl Nervescrap (CD) 1996
Knurl of old times - or should I say Knurl all the time - is sold metal junk harsh noise.
*PURE 18 Violent Onsen Geisha The Midnight Gambler ◄ (2 versions) 1996
VOG was always great name if you ask me. But also very mysterious. Very difficult to get anything, and when you finally did, it wasn't really noise. Sound collages, weirdness, but ALSO noise on this disc. One of the only VOG releases you can access easy and cheap.
*PURE 20 Chop Shop (3) plays Emil Beaulieau Red & Buried (CD) 1995
Chop Shop plays EB records via his custom build speakers, creating hissy, distant, rusty and decayed sound.
*PURE 21 Total (2) Glassy Warhead (Album) ◄ (3 versions) 1995
Bower has so extensive discography, it's hard to say where exactly this goes in terms of importance? Fact is, that it remains solid guitar-drone/feedback noise + harshnoise fusion. Very rotten mid-frequency sound overall.
*PURE 25 MSBR Destructive Locomotion Dedicated To Chizuo Matsumoto 1995
May not be the best MSBR, but if you can't get "Ultimate Ambience" or "Collapseland", this ain't bad way to start. It certainly is much better than later days MSBR cdr output...
*PURE 26 Pain Jerk Trashware ◄ (2 versions) 1995
To me, this always was among absolute highlights of Pain Jerk. And therefore, absolute mandatory noise CD for anyone interested in high quality, super sharp and clear Japanese noise!
*PURE 30 Le Syndicat Corrumpate (CD, Album, RE) 1995
*PURE 31 Le Syndicat Relikat & Schraguemusik (CD) 1995
*PURE 32 Le Syndicat Rectitude (CD, Album, RE) 1995
Very good re-issues of old Le Syndicat tapes. Its been mentioned by band that tapes were dubbed by various distributors/people back then, resulting that there are very different quality tapes in circulation. And now when you think some newer Le Syndicat re-issues, I think they have boosted them to modern "clip compressing" style. Therefore, despite packaging being minimal, these CD's could be among best purchases of this stuff. Volume on CD's is quite low, but not a problem your stereo volume button wouldn't solve!
*PURE 34 Masonna Noisextra (Album) ◄ (2 versions) 1995
I know a lot of people have complimented this CD. I must say that I was quite disappointed with it back then. Not that it would be BAD, but this is 2 tracks. First is re-cut old material. Mmostly material known from Alchemy CD's, just re-edited. And the 2nd track is very flat and ultra distorted. Reminding me from the shift where the early bouncing, dynamic and exploding Masonna started to be this hissy distortion wall. Not bad, but having the older Masonna albums in collection, this simply couldn't compete with Madamoiselle..... or Noskl In Ana. But again, for price it is, it's simply very good purchase for those who don't want to pay big bucks for old rarities.
*PURE 35 PBK / Hands To / AMK System-Music-End (CD, Album, Comp) 1995
Another of Pure items I didn't care much when it came out, due not being noisy enough. But over the years, it grew. I think my review of it appears somewhere in SI forum playlist topic... Collaborations between these 3 american artists, combining good elements of each.
*PURE 37 Thurston Moore Please Just Leave Me (My Paul Desmond) (CD) 1996
Perhaps only Pure disc I genuinely disliked. And I think, according to label, the bestseller. No wonder. I thought it lacks everything I wait from guitar-noise. Genre which appears as if it would be easy, but very little of seriously good releases...
more later...
My RRRcycled tape is worth hearing (;P)...
Is that the Teenage Nuremburg CD? I have it here. I doubt it's an art edition but it looks as awful as one would expect. If anyone wants it I'll let it go for the postage cost. If no one wants it I have a very hungry bin that needs feeding.
LHD - Opaque was my first ever noise cd that I got in trade. I still blasting loud this masterpiece!
Quote from: GEWALTMONOPOL on October 09, 2014, 11:00:59 PM
Is that the Teenage Nuremburg CD? I have it here. I doubt it's an art edition but it looks as awful as one would expect. If anyone wants it I'll let it go for the postage cost. If no one wants it I have a very hungry bin that needs feeding.
I would assume what you have is bunch of xeroxes over advertizements or color papers? It's not the "special edition" but perhaps more accurately "3rd edition"?
I think there are 3 main editions of most discs:
-Original Pure cardsleeve packaging, where only stiker indicated band/release name.
-When RRR moved and address of those covers out-dated, he started to paste xeroxed art over the cardboard sleeve
-When cardboard covers/glueing jobs etc became too much, it was just bunch of xeroxes inside plastic sleeve
Besides this, some repressings was done as CDR, and some releases have been issued as artist editions.
Also depending when you bought the Pure discs, "insert" = catalogue may vary. Some of the earliest ones also list titles that was planned, but never came out. Curious details for example planned solo albums of each Borbetomagus member was listed.
Some first copies of Ramleh CD's also included printed inserts. Some sort of artist edition of Ramleh included extra CDR with odd videos of... young boys was it? hah..
Special Olympics Edition perhaps. It's in the bin now.
Zone Nord "Roferon A" is one I have often name-checked, and will do so again. On at least a few occasions I have reserved the descriptor "good grave-digging music" - but perhaps I never bothered to explain this as representing the point of the view of the shovel doing the digging. Another comparable vantage might be that of having one's head dragged through a mound of dirt, with or without body attached.
Some guy on eBay would appear to be selling 6 of the DAT masters from this series:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/134399418670?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=NLFztxeeT-a&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=6vaDf6R9Te2&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
Quote from: eraciator on January 05, 2023, 11:52:28 AM
Some guy on eBay would appear to be selling 6 of the DAT masters from this series:
My first thought was : Fake ! How one gathered these if he is not Ron ? But then i saw the 'Production Master' sticker on the tape. So they come from the factory [?] . Needs caution and questions asked to the seller. In any case, these are only for 'sick' collectors. Digital to digital, i doubt there is any audio 'upgrade' [or downgrade closest to purity, to be more accurate] compared to the CDs. Could be ? How ? -I dont know about DAT- . If these were cassettes, that would be a different discussion ... Still, out of my reach.
Back in the day, many times when you send master to factory, they were not returned unless you asked them to be returned. At your cost. When its Digital Audio Tape transformed probably via optical cables to glass master, then it is the same data. Only way DAT would be better, is if it has for example 24bit / 48 as opposed to 16/41 CD quality and the audio would have been downgraded to CD level. I would assume all these DAT has been sent to label knowing it will be CD, and bit rate and all that is CD quality. I would assume those tapes would be then purely for collector purposes.
Tempted to buy them all to keep some faggot reissue label from conflating owning the tapes with owning the rights...
Quote from: Warfare Noise on January 05, 2023, 11:19:32 PM
Tempted to buy them all to keep some faggot reissue label from conflating owning the tapes with owning the rights...
Not all heroes wear capes.
Why dont you ask a few Germans on the street if they have heard of Kluster? You might learn something.
Embarrassing.
Quote from: Theodore on January 05, 2023, 01:07:30 PM
Quote from: eraciator on January 05, 2023, 11:52:28 AM
Some guy on eBay would appear to be selling 6 of the DAT masters from this series:
How one gathered these if he is not Ron ?
RRRon had donated to them to person in difficult financial situation due medical bills who then sold them to raise money.
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on January 06, 2023, 09:17:54 AM
Quote from: Theodore on January 05, 2023, 01:07:30 PM
Quote from: eraciator on January 05, 2023, 11:52:28 AM
Some guy on eBay would appear to be selling 6 of the DAT masters from this series:
How one gathered these if he is not Ron ?
RRRon had donated to them to person in difficult financial situation due medical bills who then sold them to raise money.
How much were they going for? I sure hope someone got them that isn't gonna abuse them. I'm not against reissues though as long as it was done right. Reissues are very good for keeping a release alive and bringing it to more modern audiences that otherwise would have never heard it unless they were really into noise and just started buying a bunch of random stuff on discogs and enjoying it. I don't think anyone in noise is making big money off it and isn't just doing reissues to get more of it. A lot of these reissues come out on professionally made CD these days too which costs quite a bit of money and I often don't see them completely sell out everywhere for a long while. It's hard to see where any malicious intent would come from there. Unless someone just set up a label to reissue the things and didn't do so out of any interest but money and getting some fame for doing so which isn't much since noise is never going to be entirely embraced by the everyday listener of music. I think the biggest noise artist is Merzbow and is probably a good standard for the ceiling of popularity you can get with noise and who knows if it's actually doing them much financial good or they just have a lot of money as is and enjoy doing what they do so they keep it going.
Quote from: eraciator on January 05, 2023, 11:52:28 AM
Some guy on eBay would appear to be selling 6 of the DAT masters from this series:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/134399418670?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=NLFztxeeT-a&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=6vaDf6R9Te2&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
nice pictures, the closest i will ever get to an original master tape of that caliber... or anyone of you socksniffers for that matter haha