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GENERAL SOUND DISCUSSION => GENERAL SOUND DISCUSSION => Topic started by: KMusselman on March 08, 2013, 09:43:54 PM

Title: SPK
Post by: KMusselman on March 08, 2013, 09:43:54 PM
Anyone receive Field Report San Francisco or Case Study London yet?  I ordered both earlier in the week, but won't be receiving them until next week.  Being soundboard recordings, I am curious as to how well they will sound.
Title: Re: SPK
Post by: HongKongGoolagong on March 08, 2013, 09:59:05 PM
http://blog.wfmu.org/freeform/2012/04/spk-live-at-oddfellows-hall-san-francisco-on-5-16-1981.html would seem to be the same recordings as Field Report San Francisco and the post discusses the ups and downs of the sound quality.

Haven't listened myself. I have nice copies of almost all their studio work and a few bootlegs of SPK live from around that time but I think the horror of what they became with the terrible Elektra and Nettwerk eras puts me off collecting their work. I noticed Brian Lustmord seemed very happy with the Case Study London release - http://b-lustmord.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/spk-1983.html
Title: Re: SPK
Post by: Ritual on March 08, 2013, 10:00:15 PM
Haven't bought these. I am curious about how much they actually add to all the live material in the VOD box set. Some tracks from these sets are included in the box, but are the rest of the tracks worth buying these CDs for, if you have the box already?
Title: Re: SPK
Post by: Steve on March 09, 2013, 10:53:01 AM
CD's are excellent standard, sound quality is superb. I have been playing them alot over the past few weeks. Recommended
VOD box set has some dubious quality recordings (I agree) but acts as a document to their live work just fine ... great booklet too.
I have a German copy of the "Breathless" 7", could be the worst single I own.! Unlike you Mr. Gooloagong I can't stop collecting!
Title: Re: SPK
Post by: Ritual on March 09, 2013, 12:43:14 PM
Thanks for the info, Steve. I might pick these CDs up then. Agree about the sound quality of the VOD box. Perfectly acceptable for what it is.
Title: Re: SPK
Post by: HongKongGoolagong on March 11, 2013, 01:42:32 AM
Quote from: Steve on March 09, 2013, 10:53:01 AM
I have a German copy of the "Breathless" 7", could be the worst single I own.!

Now while this thread is actually about two semi-official live releases which seem to be by all accounts pretty great, I can't resist going into the horrible story of what happened to SPK, which judging from the bonus material on the official DVD release of Despair a few years ago also pissed off others involved in the band.

The material recorded under another name in 1981 (can't find my Trevor Blake unauthorised book to remind myself of it) which ended up on side two of Auto Da Fe and played live...well that was OK. Could have worked on the lyrics a bit and whoever told Revell he could sing needs shooting, but not too bad. Likewise the Metal Dance 12" from '83 sounds fine to me - obviously an experiment at being commercial but sounded good and a bit of a wild B-side.

What the hell happened for their '84 major label album? Everything turned to shit. Bad songwriting, bad production, truly horrible production and fucking saxophones - even the cover is hateful. There is a reason that the only CD reissue of this is on a label "Wounded Bird Records" specialising in major label follies and general flops of music.

Graeme Revell then retreated and recorded the Zahmia Lehmanni thing solo. Which is unobjectionable and pleasant soundtrack-ish music - alright if you like that kind of thing - marketed as 'SPK' for commercial reasons although god knows Machine Age Voodoo had killed off much of the name's pull by then. And then, shockingly, SPK came to horrible zombie life for some shows and records on Nettwerk which, unbelievably, were even worse than the WEA/Elektra record as and Steve points out above, could be some of the very worst music ever made. I don't think I can come near to describing how full of fail songs like Mouth to Mouth and Crack are. I don't even want to think about them! Thankfully, Hollywood called in the form of the Dead Calm soundtrack and subsequent lucrative career (I have a fairly unique 7" from the flop early '00s movie Goal which couples the Happy Mondays and Graeme Revell but haven't listened to his soundtrack work properly) - the world was finally free from the torture of SPK's post-1983 afterlife. 
Title: Re: SPK
Post by: bitewerksMTB on March 11, 2013, 08:09:37 PM
"can't find my Trevor Blake unauthorised book to remind myself of it"

I was thinking there was some sort of SPK zine/book. I never bought it for some reason but I do remember the name Trevor Blake but can't remember what else he did.

Title: Re: SPK
Post by: HongKongGoolagong on March 11, 2013, 11:21:10 PM
It was a book half about the real SPK, half about the band,  published by the people from the real SPK. But they made the strange decision to rush out an advance unfinished version for selling at a book fair and I guess Mr Blake was pissed off and the final version never appeared.

It's a good volume but for instance the awful Nettwerk material talked about above is described as something like "[more 12"ers, Karina Hayes, blah blah}" - very much unfinished with his notes left in. They must have printed quite a few, it was available via distros up through the end of the 90s.

Trevor Blake's excellent blog is at http://ovo127.com/ - the real SPK is at http://www.spkpfh.de/
Title: Re: SPK
Post by: Brad on March 12, 2013, 01:00:32 AM
Here's some text from the book: http://home.pi.be/~spk/spktrevorblake.htm
Title: Re: SPK
Post by: Steve on March 14, 2013, 02:22:55 PM
The two CD's came as a surprise to me too ... one has seperate track listing and one has the CD marked as just one long track - bizarre, but I can give the "spares" to friends!
It is listed on Discogs as 2 CD's per release.....
Title: Re: SPK
Post by: Brad on March 14, 2013, 06:47:30 PM
I bought both albums in January in "new" condition from Reckless Records in Chicago, and I only got one disc with each.  Both with the whole album as one track.  The digipaks are clearly designed to only hold one disc, so where was the second one supposed to be kept if it existed??

Discogs mentions the 2 CDs, but implies that they are identical copies.  That's a bummer if one has separate tracks, because then I could put them in shuffle on my ipod. Does anyone know which stores are giving both to the customer?  I see these CDs are in the various usual industrial web shops now (Malignant, Cold Spring, Storming The Base, IsoTank, etc.) and none of the product descriptions actually mention it being a double CD.
Title: Re: SPK
Post by: Steve on March 14, 2013, 07:09:26 PM
I bought my copies from Burning World Records in The Netherlands, an excellent mail order outfit ... The CD's were shrinkwrapped so it is hard to see how there are only "single" copies about.
Title: Re: SPK
Post by: Brad on March 14, 2013, 07:18:35 PM
Mine weren't shrink-wrapped, I think they came in those CD bags with fold-over adhesive seal.  I thought nothing of it at the time since they were bootlegs on a very obscure label, but I guess it's pretty obvious now that someone tampered with them (Reckless or perhaps whoever their supplier was).
Title: Re: SPK
Post by: Brad on March 14, 2013, 09:48:00 PM
I decided to ask Reckless what was up, and this is what they said: "That's how we received them from Forced Exposure (the distributor). Most import CDs are not shrink wrapped."
Title: Re: SPK
Post by: burdizzo on March 15, 2013, 01:10:39 AM
Hmmm. I was thinking of getting both, but it all adds up a bit. Would you say the London one was the one to go for, then?
Title: Re: SPK
Post by: Dom America on March 15, 2013, 05:19:52 AM
On the off chance that someone is holding onto an original 'Factory' 7", I am in the market.
Title: Re: SPK
Post by: burdizzo on March 15, 2013, 09:24:11 AM
Yes, I already have 'Auto da fe', and was listening to it recently after a long break. It comes across as very accessible, some of it, at this distance. 'Leichenscri' was always my favourite, but I used to think 'IOU' was way too heavy, 20 years ago. Now I think it's quite interesting!
Title: Re: SPK
Post by: bitewerksMTB on March 15, 2013, 07:53:50 PM
Quote from: Dom America on March 15, 2013, 05:19:52 AM
On the off chance that someone is holding onto an original 'Factory' 7", I am in the market.

Have you ever seen a copy for sale? I know a guy in Austin who owns the "Meat Processing Section" 7". I have never, ever seen any of the other 7"'s available
anywhere!
Title: Re: SPK
Post by: Dom America on March 21, 2013, 04:33:27 AM
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on March 15, 2013, 07:53:50 PM
Quote from: Dom America on March 15, 2013, 05:19:52 AM
On the off chance that someone is holding onto an original 'Factory' 7", I am in the market.

Have you ever seen a copy for sale? I know a guy in Austin who owns the "Meat Processing Section" 7". I have never, ever seen any of the other 7"'s available
anywhere!

I've only seen 'Factory' once on ebay a while back. I have 'Meat Processing' section, as well as the other two 7"s the band released in 1979. 'Factory' and 'Solipsik' are the two I don't have but the latter isn't a favorite.
Title: Re: SPK
Post by: Steve on March 21, 2013, 02:00:30 PM
The early 7"'s turn up now and again on EBay and sell for hundreds of dollars. There is a copy of "No More" floating about that is signed "To Steve" .. if you ever see that - it's mine!!! (stolen from me in 1983)!!
Title: Re: SPK
Post by: Rhan-Tegoth on September 06, 2017, 02:54:10 PM
Quote from: burdizzo on March 15, 2013, 09:24:11 AM
Yes, I already have 'Auto da fe', and was listening to it recently after a long break. It comes across as very accessible, some of it, at this distance. 'Leichenscri' was always my favourite, but I used to think 'IOU' was way too heavy, 20 years ago. Now I think it's quite interesting!

I agree on this 100%. I prefer IOU over ADF these days.

Leichenschrei of course is their finest hour. Coming from a Metal background, hearing this for the first time was a revelation, never heard anything as disturbing before and crazy if you think how tame Metal and Punk were in comparison at this point in time. I have the re-release with the painting of a lunatic on the cover, coincidentally painted in a psychiatric asylum just 200m away from where I live, at the beginning of the last century.
Title: Re: SPK
Post by: Zeno Marx on June 06, 2018, 10:11:48 PM
Going through the Working Cycle Transmission bootleg set.  I think it is a bootleg?  Seems so, but it's nicely done.  Deservingly so, too.  The vinyl version is listed at Discogs, but the CD set is not.  Maybe they haven't deleted the vinyl box yet?  It's good and very interesting.  Recommended.

Lustmord wrote about the sets and the history here:

http://www.lustmord.com/spk-1983/

http://www.lustmord.com/spk-vinyl-box/
Title: Re: SPK
Post by: bitewerksMTB on June 07, 2019, 10:35:34 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/ByX_x68pWM5/

Does anyone know details of whatever the event is the photos were taken at?

Also:

https://www.oldeuropacafe.com/catalog/category/spk-leichenschrei-re-edition-oec.html
Title: Re: SPK
Post by: magnus on June 08, 2019, 02:13:57 AM
It was a "séminaire" with Graeme Revell in Paris, some talk about the old days i suppose. If i had lived in Paris i´d gone for sure.
Here´s some info in French: https://sv-se.facebook.com/events/425236981373614/ (https://sv-se.facebook.com/events/425236981373614/)

The new SPK 7" box from Vinyl On Demand is very nice, stoked to have these three records after all these years...
Title: Re: SPK
Post by: xdementia on June 09, 2019, 10:06:50 AM
A+ project. Absolutely seminal.

I have the VOD Vinyl Box and the 7" Box. Big pimpin B)
Title: Re: SPK
Post by: re:evolution on June 09, 2019, 11:03:57 AM
Obviously of interest to this forum (and thread), is that the new issue of Noise Receptor Journal will feature a long form interview with Tone Generator (aka Dominic Guerin) who was in SPK during the early seminal period of the group and who contributed massively to the concept and sound. He talks extensively of this earliest period of SPK as well was subsequent activities in Last Dominion Lost. New issue is due out in August.
Title: Re: SPK
Post by: brutalist_tapes on June 09, 2019, 08:55:50 PM
Quote from: re:evolution on June 09, 2019, 11:03:57 AM
Obviously of interest to this forum (and thread), is that the new issue of Noise Receptor Journal will feature a long form interview with Tone Generator (aka Dominic Guerin) who was in SPK during the early seminal period of the group and who contributed massively to the concept and sound. He talks extensively of this earliest period of SPK as well was subsequent activities in Last Dominion Lost. New issue is due out in August.
amazing news! sounds very interesting