In my opinion, possibly best document related to industrial, PREDICTIONS OF FIRE, about Laibach and NSK. With English subtitles. Curiously Finnish TV has produced Finnish version where narration was in Finnish language.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAvtlvswkgw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmmM6hz4Ncg&NR=1
and 6 more parts you can follow by yourself
On topic of "old fashioned state art":
Triumph Of Will with english subtitles. Sometimes worshipped as best female director of 30's, and amazing showcase of advanced film making. Whatever you may feel of politics of 3rd reich, the monumental architechture, strength of symbols & organisation is art.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPAxaFxjiDk
The controversial German filmmaker Leni Riefenstahl. Her later career included very professional photographic documentary of african tribes. Now special edition collectors books sold by Taschen.
Blood In The Face.
Documentary of US right wing extremists, but the curious thing is to put your OPERATION CLEANSWEAP "Power hungry" LP (Tesco) on turntable and notice that about all the samples come from this one document. Level of absurdity at some points goes on artistic level.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tK_vFc46hrI
http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/guys-and-dolls/ (http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/guys-and-dolls/)
"For some people, finding a partner in life can be difficult. For others, it's almost impossible. Ten years ago a small factory in California began making an alternative partner. Each is tailor-made to suit every taste. There are now 3,000 'real dolls' across the world, providing some owners with the love and companionship that real women cannot."
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on December 10, 2009, 09:03:21 PM
Blood In The Face.
Documentary of US right wing extremists, but the curious thing is to put your OPERATION CLEANSWEAP "Power hungry" LP (Tesco) on turntable and notice that about all the samples come from this one document. Level of absurdity at some points goes on artistic level.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tK_vFc46hrI
Also a book tie-in published by Thunder Mouth Press (no longer operating, I believe).
yeah, book is great. I got it from local library back in 1997, and its been used. "It's time for old fashioned american justice!" poster, I recall might have used on Genocide Organ video or some other images. I had that framed on my wall for years. Man hanging from a tree, as sign of justice, is always inspiring thing.
I think the book gives much more darker and serious look about the "scene". You read the articles, and get the image of pretty rough stuff. And you watch the document, and it doesn't take long to get the flashbacks of your domestic heroes. Posturing in full uniforms babbling some quite strange ideas you know can never attract wanted mass movement behind them.
It's pretty dated, though. Be interesting to know what the state of play is in the US now, particularly with Obama in charge. Usually, when the more overt right wing parties are in power they tend to suck up a lot of the usual rightist extremists, who loose momentum on the fring. When the less overt, more moderate parties are in, it gives fuel to the extreme rightists. I'll be very surprised if there's no build up at the moment of white supremacists in the US at the moment.
On the other hand -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Yrqr8-UQ1Q (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Yrqr8-UQ1Q)
- something else I've been getting a few samples from.
SICK: The Life & Death of Bob Flanagan, Supermasochist 1997
Pretty ok film. Still would recommend to start w/ Supermasochist book.
Sheree Rose one mean mama. Its rare to have genuine sadist (straight) woman. If I remember right Sheree was in abusive relationship before Bob. it was her time to be the punisher. Have seen this only once at film festival Helsinki late 90s. Have to get dvd.
Eleczema has used Flanagan samples.
BLOOD IN THE FACE.
Yeah I recorded it to vhs when it came from Finnish TV. I do remember on tv-section at paper there was line that this film makes European neo-Nazis look very clever comparing their US comrades. Heh..
That blood in the face theory is hilarious, the man slapping himself to face. "when you slap a nigger they face wont turn red.."
at same time there was another classic shown at Finnish TV:
SIEG HEIL SUOMI
trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYKQYJlNxMU
well, slapping isn't really the meaning. Myth is, that because only whites can blush, only they feel shame, and therefore only they are human. Others would be just closer to animals with their morals for example.
I think one good document about NOISE CULTURE is the dvd "PEOPLE WHO MAKE NOISE". I have seriously watched it twice. It is amazing documentary about certain moment in Portland (US) noise scene. In a way, you simply can worship the extreme goofiness of veterans like SMEGMA, but also I can tell, that if you happen to have any company whatsoever while watching this, simply prepare for stomach muscle aching bursts of laughter. It is not funny all the time, but it is, a lot of time.
There is good stuff there too, but most of all extremely funny. Mostly unintentionally.
It is the US noise scenes aswer to Bill and Ted. Like, totally awsome, dude...
http://www.ohmrecords.no/16ohm/160hm.htm (http://www.ohmrecords.no/16ohm/160hm.htm)
Good but not great. The accompanying cd is worth having, though, especially the "Norwegian Noise Orchestra". I would have preferred one or two of the full, live concerts as extras.
got that releases somewhere in my shelves waiting. Got it couple years ago and looks good, but still waiting. DVD's are like noise boxes. You get them, but time it takes to go through one, makes them pile up...
That being said, there has still been some talk about maybe making documentary of Finnish noise/PE. And do it professionally. Would have friend who studies for TV broadcast / document / movie assistent or whatever thing it is, and access for pro equipment and necessity to do some good projects. The angle would have to be thought. Would it be relaxed look on these normal guys doing strange sounds, or intentionally "mythical" look of pretty anonymous characters with all those nasty things what happens in Finnish noise shows/releases/atmosphere.
"Just hold the damn camera still and take it from there." As my DP (director of photography and not, well you know) use to say. I just don't know how many people that are suppose to be professionals who have missed that very easy rule. It is very hard to edit material that is all over the place with no thought behind it.
I would rather see somebody doing a serious film about people doing their art (for lack of a better word). If somebody was interested in doing that I would be interest in having a go at finding financing for it. I've been producing documentaries since 2003. It won't be easy but friends of mine once got money to do a film about japnoise by playing Pain Jerk really loud to a bunch of commissioning editors. In the end they made a film about Tokyo instead.
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on December 14, 2009, 08:07:37 PM
there has still been some talk about maybe making documentary of Finnish noise/PE. And do it professionally.
sounds nice. there have been a few live shows that would definetly install jealosy in foreign folks. bizarre uproar and gelsomina at the warehouse in mellunmäki. pasi doing a show that lasts seven minutes with his gear on top of barrels and pexi shaking that pipe in front of people( didnt know him at this point and I was pretty sure somebody gets to taste that thing).
a great excuse to put together a few different kinds of shows.
dont know about shooting nerds drinking coffee and hanging out in the internet but it would be something special to see them creating in their "studios". and interviews obviously need to be in finnish with subtitles.
im sure freak animal himself has a ton of archival footage that would sweaten the package even more...
Not sure if this would qualify, but I wanted to plug this anyway -
http://www.youtube.com/user/Lamronormal (http://www.youtube.com/user/Lamronormal)
- interviews I've done with Aust. sound fuckers. Mostly just holding the damn camera and taking it from there, with the odd bit of editing to keep things moving. Also live clips of local acts.
I can't believe I've never heard of "Blood In The Face" ?!?! That's next in the old Netflix queue.
I think it's been mentioned before, but "Zoo" was interesting. Not much meat if you're there for pure perversion, but the interviews with the participants and especially the ranch owner are creepy as hell. I can't believe no one has used this film as a source for some samples.
A doc on the Finnish scene would be devastating, as long as it had English subtitles. Sweden would be great as well. Hell, a country by country series would work for me.
Good movie. Love the cinematography, and it's built up very well. Also very moved by the compassion behind the film. The only issue with sampling, for me, is that there is a lot of music soundtrack behind most of the talking.
I bought the dvd when it came out couple years ago. I have written about it in noisefanatics.com
I think it has it's advantages and weaknesses. It's is fucking slow document. I like the idea, that for someone who doesn't know what the thing is about, they really take their time to fully say what they're actually talking about. It's not like Jerry Springler show where guy walks on stage and host say's, "so, you get fucked by horses, yeah?" and crowd boos. haha. But it is amusing that they manage to talk about subject so vaguely for so long time. I remember when mr. Hands clip were circulating online long before he died and long before document. I don't know if forum is still there, but some zoo forum with his friends saying they made that clip and trying to upload better longer clip for those who want it.
"Blood in the Face" came to mind before I opened this. Great one.... my friend also had one about the Tom Metzger trial where he ended up banned from the state he was living in.
"Louie and the Nazis" is good, though depending on my mood Louie gets old quick. The best one he did though has to be with the Westboro Baptist Church ("God Hates Fags").
"American Pimp" is decent... the contrast between the pimps is good. It's a pretty "safe" documentary overall, though, doesn't get too heavily into the abusive side from what I can remember.
"Chickenhawk" is fucking amazing. About NAMBLA members, never seen them so candid. They try to be so romantic and sensual even in just describing the ideal blowjob, or their delusions about boys flirting with them. A couple of them are also weird artists, like a guy who paints pictures of football players wearing a helmet and shoulder pads, but with no pants on and wings on his back.
Quote from: LIFE on December 20, 2009, 12:19:08 PM
"Chickenhawk" is fucking amazing. About NAMBLA members, never seen them so candid. They try to be so romantic and sensual even in just describing the ideal blowjob, or their delusions about boys flirting with them. A couple of them are also weird artists, like a guy who paints pictures of football players wearing a helmet and shoulder pads, but with no pants on and wings on his back.
All I can say is 1 - thank fuck for YouTube, and 2 - I know what I'm sampling in future.
I think I have talked elsewhere, but essential is:
NOT ANGELS BUT ANGELS
QuoteThis documentary account of teenage prostitution among Czech boys after the "velvet revolution" consists almost entirely of interviews with teen (14-20) prostitutes "working" in Prague.
The boys and their accounts are the best thing about the movie: they are very open about their "trade" and their stories are often heart-breaking. The film's composition, such as it is, is moderately effective, but some of the visuals are forced and smack of the old school of East European propaganda.
Not thorough, as recent revelations in European press show, but still a fascinating peek behind the curtain.
BODY WITHOUT SOUL
QuoteSome are ugly, some are attractive; some use drugs, some do not; some are stupid, some are average, some are smart. And all of them are teenage male prostitutes working the streets of Prague. Their clients consist largely of German, Swiss, and Dutch tourists in search of cheap sex--and for additional income they make pornos on the side. And along the way they are ripped off, abused, and degraded until they simply wear out.
Wiktor Grodecki's documentary BODY WITHOUT SOUL is a dark and disturbing look at life on the streets of Prague. The film consists of interviews with a dozen or so teenagers describing how they first began on the streets, how they drifted into prostitution and pornography. Some of the subjects seemed drugged; others are surprisingly articulate. The centerpiece of the film, however, is an extended interview with a pornographic film director who at first attempts to gloss over the unsavory aspects of his work--and who ends by unintentionally revealing just how vicious he actually is. The pornographer is also a pathologist, and the camera follows him into the autopsy room and films him at work. Grodecki then intercuts these scenes with scenes of him directing his latest film, thus making the point that these boys are no more to those who use them than so much meat.
Although it is exceptionally well done, I would hesitate to recommend BODY WITHOUT SOUL to a casual viewer. It is a moving film, a powerful testament re the old, old story of man's inhumanity to man... But many will find the autopsy scenes repulsive beyond their toleration, and I cannot imagine that many will watch the film more than once. Recommended, but as a rental rather than a purchase.
Gary F. Taylor, aka GFT, Amazon Reviewer
Latter one, better. The pornographer/pathologist is simply amazing guy. He casually cuts open bodies at morgue while giving interview about molesting underage heterosexual street boys for vile homo films for german market which always demands extremes. Simply tells the stories of beating up kids to get them do what they do. I recall there was story that when document was made, director had passed all the information to police to capture this guy. If it wasn't all the czech language, this would be like top sampling material. Document available with english subtitles.
Quote from: LIFE on December 20, 2009, 12:19:08 PM
"Chickenhawk" is fucking amazing. About NAMBLA members, never seen them so candid. They try to be so romantic and sensual even in just describing the ideal blowjob, or their delusions about boys flirting with them. A couple of them are also weird artists, like a guy who paints pictures of football players wearing a helmet and shoulder pads, but with no pants on and wings on his back.
I just can't believe the crap Todd Phillips is doing today. He only produced Chickenhawk but still the leap from there to Starsky and Hutch just seems... well huge. Bigger pay check I guess.
Anyone remember that beastiality farm document, where nearly 100% blind older guy who also wrote a book (I'd hope to be reminded what was the title, if could find it). He's interests was just to have sex with horses, and he had abandoned his normal family to live in this farm with couple other beast lovers. He had tattooed image of half human, half horse imagynary species on his skin which he dreamed to be able to breed. Not being (totally) insane, he knew that that was impossible, but nevertheless fantasy. He would talk about how the horse loved sex. He said she could simply kick him anytime to death when he is working from behind...
I guess there should be some difference in what is "document" and what is document. There are sooooooooo much of such a crap one can't believe. All these UK "shock documents" of some most retarded subjects flooding into Finnish TV. "my children only eat chocklate and french fries", "I need bigger boobs",............ pfff
Just watched today TSUNAMI document, and not much worth to see. Tourist camera footage, mostly the western nice looking survivors and one neat looking oriental girl picked up. And the only older gruff looking men allowed to talk are the ones with young daughter dead. Oh yeah. Not really word about locals and their struggles. Just about some western holiday travellers problems. If we aim for exploitation and misery, why not focus just on failing struggle and piles of rotting corpses then? If it's about empathy and shit like that, perhaps not deal with guys who lost "couple friends" or who lost one child, but local people who lost everything and probably were last ones to be aided when the lard asses of west needed to get treated.
a guy from sundsvall, klas lignell (released the sampler "your daily buzz" on his shortlived tripmeke label), did a rather nice documentary on (swedish) noise called "kakafoni"... not so impressive but some good moments and solid interviews with institut (when they were a two piece act), irm & treriksröset. it also features some short cuts from institut & masonna live actions. it was many years since I saw this so I guess I might have some details wrong...
Quote from: alpharmania on December 28, 2009, 08:10:05 PM
a guy from sundsvall, klas lignell (released the sampler "your daily buzz" on his shortlived tripmeke label), did a rather nice documentary on (swedish) noise called "kakafoni"... not so impressive but some good moments and solid interviews with institut (when they were a two piece act), irm & treriksröset. it also features some short cuts from institut & masonna live actions. it was many years since I saw this so I guess I might have some details wrong...
I don't have this... any chance of getting a copy on VHS or DVDR? It would be most appreciated.
I'll make you a copy.
Titicut Follies - by Frederick Wiseman to date the best documentary I have seen about mental instituitions
http://filmfanatic.org/reviews/?p=3303
Domestic Violence - by Frederick Wiseman, less arty than Titicut, but it has everything you expect from such title.
Cadavres - Spanish documentary with arty elements. A collection of morbid images between disturbed people and old morgues that look quite unfit to today hygienic standards. I loved a part where corpses get extracted from underground cells where they apparently stand in erect position drowned in an unspecified liquid.
Attacco Alla Democrazia - Giuliano Montaldo. One of Italy's finest arthouse director released this very intense documentary regarding the presumed connections between secret services, right wing terroristsm ecc.
Montaldo had many hassles for shooting this and the movie completely disappeared apart from RAI 3 (left wing Italian state tv station) showing it at late night once.
Mass slaughters, bombings, fights between militants. I have been sampling a lot from this.
Unfortunately somebody stole my copy...
The movie has many imprecision and follows one direction, but it was a damn good example of how a documentary may be considered something more than an "informative" piece. I virtually suggest all his other movies.
Let me die a woman - a classic documentary about sex change operations in the 70's. Features graphic images of surgery, but the best part are interviews with patients.
Quote from: tiny_tove on January 21, 2010, 12:04:24 AM
Attacco Alla Democrazia - Giuliano Montaldo. One of Italy's finest arthouse director released this very intense documentary regarding the presumed connections between secret services, right wing terroristsm ecc.
Montaldo had many hassles for shooting this and the movie completely disappeared apart from RAI 3 (left wing Italian state tv station) showing it at late night once.
Mass slaughters, bombings, fights between militants. I have been sampling a lot from this.
Unfortunately somebody stole my copy...
Any idea where I could get a copy with English subtitles? I'm currently researching Gladio for a project and an Italian take on it would be interesting. I've seen the BBC version http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=16921 . But any info about state infiltration of terror groups either right, left, muslin whatever is of interest (it doesn't have to be "true" since it is a fiction project). Any info about P23 (the supposed Swiss über-branch of the P2) would also be great.
impossible.
This movies doesn't even exist in Italian language.
Once lost my vhs I never found again anybody owning it.
On gladio get ORCHESTRE NOIR a Franch 2 episode documentary interviewing the protagonists of those days.
Too bad you don't understand Italian or I could help on similar stuff.
Knowing Italian would be a great advantage for sure...
I will go and hunt Orchestre Noir down. Thanks for the tip!
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-74869621512485488#
;)
Quote from: tiny_tove on January 21, 2010, 12:04:24 AM
Attacco Alla Democrazia - Giuliano Montaldo.
The movie has many imprecision and follows one direction, but it was a damn good example of how a documentary may be considered something more than an "informative" piece. I virtually suggest all his other movies.
- Very interesting... I'll try to track this down. I have seen some of Montaldos other works and liked it a lot. I can recommend Sacco & Vanzetti (recommended political movie with Gian Maria Volonte & Riccardo Cucciola), Machinegun McCain (eurocrime) and Grand Slam (spy/heist)...
OT His masterpiece are all during the political years.
Possibly his bests being Sacco and Vanzetti (Docu drama about two Italian anarchist immigrants framed in the us for a robbery they never committed. The movie features a fantastic Morricone soundtrack featuring Joan Baez (who I usually despise) on vocals.
His best movies were Gott Mit Uns (German justice inside an ally concentration camp) and Giordano Bruno. OT
Quote from: tiny_tove on January 21, 2010, 11:20:56 PM
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-74869621512485488#
;)
To bad my French is not much better than my Italian... I found the German version which I understand roughly... Anyway a big THANKS!
you are welcome! if you need more hints feel free to get in touch in private.
If anybody finds "attacco" please get in touch :)
yesterday bought from Pieni leffakauppa ("small movie shop") in Helsinki, dvd's:
The Wonderful horrible life of Leni Riefenstahl (by Ray Müller)
Orozco - The Embalmer (byTsurisaki Kiyotaka)
Latter one I had as dvdr burned by friend from some torrent site, but original for 10 euro, seemed nice, even if german version.
Also from same shop comp dvd of Nick Zedd films.
Quote from: tiny_tove on January 22, 2010, 09:58:53 AM
OT His masterpiece are all during the political years.
Possibly his bests being Sacco and Vanzetti (Docu drama about two Italian anarchist immigrants framed in the us for a robbery they never committed. The movie features a fantastic Morricone soundtrack featuring Joan Baez (who I usually despise) on vocals.
As well as a very nice sounding buzz from an electric chair.
http://www.imdb.com/video/wab/vi2840266009/ (http://www.imdb.com/video/wab/vi2840266009/)
GRIZZLY MAN by WERNER HERZOG.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFyaiqDXD2U
Quote from: Max on January 31, 2010, 11:16:40 PM
GRIZZLY MAN by WERNER HERZOG.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFyaiqDXD2U
maybe if it was about gay bears then some of these fruits would get a kick out of it but I cant remember any nature pe taking place. good document anyways.
first time I saw it I thought this guys is a retard(mainly because the way he acts and his personality) but I watched it again a little while back and it wasnt so bad. personalities aside the bears that literally tore his ass to pieces werent the ones he was hanging out with. exect the timing was kind of bad if I remember correctly.
I mentioned this in another thread so might as well put it here, unless someone beat me to it synth britannia http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeVRYPjcVXg definetly brushes on some industrial elements.
there is a sequel to that bbc doc with the same people talking a few years later.
I downloaded one recently called "Animal Farm", mainly dealing with animal lover Bodil J.
Found an amazing interview with her in Swedish vintage porno magazine. I will bring it with me to my job and scan if you're interested Depla.... one very rare photo I have never seen before + very amusing text.
Is it long?
There used to be very good Finnish mens magazine called Ratto. It did resurface as lame porn mag recently, but the original ones are brittiant. One issue in late 70's was special issues about the dubious rising new side of porn industry, including story and big sample pictures of Brooke Shield nude pics, sample pics (turned negative) and interview of publisher of Dutch L01ita magazine etc. I don't know where they did translate these, but it would be interesting to get the interviews with Willy Strauss, Joop Vilhelmus and other high profile businessmen.
Some of the same guys heavily involved in the beast product of the time.
I tried checking for the link but I am not sure if it has been removed from Cinemageddon because of their policy with animals.... if you don't have account I have plenty of invites left.
I have my whole closet full with issues of Kriminaljournalen and Veckans brott. Swedish magazines published on weekly basis between 1960s-1980s.... Tasteful combination of lowest forms of journalism (from Brazil death squads, swedish criminals / prostitutes, bestiality, true crime, satanism etc) combined with some porno photos... a perfectly combination... also very good selection of visuals (used many in my artworks). Exploiting everything that could be exploited.... ideal reading for long toilet sessions.
Quote from: alpharmania on February 08, 2010, 09:07:46 PM
I downloaded one recently called "Animal Farm", mainly dealing with animal lover Bodil J.
Found an amazing interview with her in Swedish vintage porno magazine. I will bring it with me to my job and scan if you're interested Depla.... one very rare photo I have never seen before + very amusing text.
go for it ;)
I was discussing with a friend regarding Lingchi and the Chinese torture images that so much inspired Bataille.
I think I have to share this with you guys
http://turandot.ish-lyon.cnrs.fr/Event.php?ID=1&
Quote from: tiny_tove on February 23, 2010, 10:40:53 AM
I was discussing with a friend regarding Lingchi and the Chinese torture images that so much inspired Bataille.
I think I have to share this with you guys
http://turandot.ish-lyon.cnrs.fr/Event.php?ID=1&
Took me a while to realise that Lingchi is just different spelling for Leng Tch'e. A different picture of the execution is on the Naked City album cover (http://www.discogs.com/image/R-377985-1260287406.jpeg (http://www.discogs.com/image/R-377985-1260287406.jpeg)) and that's why all that looked eerily familiar.
Since we have the NorNoise movie available and the documentary on Finnish Noise is being made now, can anyone point out any other good Noise documentaries? I'd be very surprised if nothing's been made about the early British PE scene, or at least something relating to it.
I found this quite interesting.
Burma VJhttp://burmavjmovie.com/ (http://burmavjmovie.com/)
QuoteGoing beyond the occasional news clip from Burma, the acclaimed filmmaker, Anders Østergaard, brings us close to the video journalists who deliver the footage. Though risking torture and life in jail, courageous young citizens of Burma live the essence of journalism as they insist on keeping up the flow of news from their closed country. Armed with small handycams the Burma VJs stop at nothing to make their reportages from the streets of Rangoon. Their material is smuggled out of the country and broadcast back into Burma via satellite and offered as free usage for international media. The whole world has witnessed single event clips made by the VJs, but for the very first time, their individual images have been carefully put together and at once, they tell a much bigger story. The film offers a unique insight into high-risk journalism and dissidence in a police state, while at the same time providing a thorough documentation of the historical and dramatic days of September 2007, when the Buddhist monks started marching.
"Joshua", age 27, is one of the young video journalists, who works undercover to counter the propaganda of the military regime. Joshua is suddenly thrown into the role as tactical leader of his group of reporters, when the monks lead a massive but peaceful uprising against the military regime. After decades of oblivion - Burma returns to the world stage, but at the same time foreign TV crews are banned from entering the country, so it is left to Joshua and his crew to document the events and establish a lifeline to the surrounding world. It is their footage that keeps the revolution alive on TV screens all over.
Amidst marching monks, brutal police agents, and shooting military the reporters embark on their dangerous mission, working around the clock to keep the world informed of events inside the closed country. Their compulsive instinct to shoot what they witness, rather than any deliberate heroism, turns their lives into that of freedom fighters.
The regime quickly understands the power of the camera and the reporters are constantly chased by government intelligence agents who look at the "media saboteurs" as the biggest prey they can get.
During the turbulent days of September, Joshua finds himself on an emotional rollercoaster between hope and despair, as he frantically tries to keep track of his reporters in the streets while the great uprising unfolds and comes to its tragic end.
With Joshua as the psychological lens, the Burmese condition is made tangible to a global audience so we can understand it, feel it, and smell it.
Charles Manson Superstar
Interesting documentary directed by Nikolas Schreck in 1989. It features a lengthy interview with Charles Manson and rarely mentioned information about him, details which are not presented in any of the dozens of political correct documentaries about Manson. He speaks about his wordview, his views on society, his trials, the severe inequities committed against him and other truths about his case. It's similar to Schreck's book "The Manson File" which is in fact the only pro-Manson book ever released.
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_gsUALeZML10/SGWSPfFLMLI/AAAAAAAAC9Q/jOJ1rvR9Ljs/s400/CharlesMansonSuperstarPoster.jpg)
Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRHdoMyIIPM
Orozco el Embalsamador
(http://www.orozcoelembalsamador.com/public_html/images/top/dvd.gif)
Pretty brutal documentary from back in the early 90's-ish era of the Shockumentaries which were so popular then (i.e. Faces of Death). This one, however, is 100% real, no cutaways, no trick shots and is pretty brutal at times (dead pregnant lady gets her baby pulled out of her, faces being peeled back, dead naked chicks with tits hanging out and bloody panties, etc). It is in all Spanish but has subtitles. Instead of writing up a full review I suggest you watch the full trailer here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eABS_fR1y4
If you're into real death footage than this is a must for your collection.
Quote from: SK on May 10, 2010, 12:40:12 AM
It's similar to Schreck's book "The Manson File" which is in fact the only pro-Manson book ever released.
I would say Siege by James Mason is pretty pro-Manson in sentiment.
that Orozco el Embalsamador looks pretty interesting.
Correct. There is a chapter of Siege which is dedicated to "Universal Order". I just didn't mention it because Siege is not a book entirely written about Manson, there are many other topics mentioned in it. Sure a considerable part of it consists of articles about and inspired by him, but the Manson file is a book specialized in his case.
Quote from: RyanWreck on May 10, 2010, 05:28:56 AM
Orozco el Embalsamador
If you're into real death footage than this is a must for your collection.
nice, thanks. found a place in germany that sells it for 22 euros! not bad but this month is carfixing month and I have to get the noobcat noodered so ill get a friend to steal this for me. I watched the preview and its always great to see a face just peeled of.
in helsinki this could be found from Pieni Leffakauppa.
I actually have burned dvdr somewhere, which I don't need since I got the original from above mentioned place for... was it 9€ ?
if its that cheap then im getting a copy even if I managed to suck it from the net all by my self.
watched it this morning and what can I say, it was really good. good soundtrack(especially in the beginning) and sound overall. loved the way the camera was just hovering over the outdoorsy scenes without any interuption. the one chick getting stripped for evidence with everybody getting an eyefull.
somebody should give this the same treatment that texas chainsaw massacre got with the sound lifted straight from the movie exept this would be mostly organs slishsloshing about, sound of skin being cut and distant car engines.
Quote from: XE on December 12, 2009, 10:23:17 PM
SICK: The Life & Death of Bob Flanagan, Supermasochist 1997
Pretty ok film. Still would recommend to start w/ Supermasochist book.
Sheree Rose one mean mama. Its rare to have genuine sadist (straight) woman. If I remember right Sheree was in abusive relationship before Bob. it was her time to be the punisher. Have seen this only once at film festival Helsinki late 90s. Have to get dvd.
Eleczema has used Flanagan samples.
Do you remember the whole film? Just watched this the other night on DVD. Amazing documentary. It gets really hard to watch at a point.... not because of him hammering a nail through his dick or any of the other masochistic acts, but more because of how depressing his life is towards the end, and the final scenes of his final moments...
I had a much different take on Sheree though. Bob was really the one pulling all the strings... the one with all the ideas, the one who taught her how to be that way, he told her what to do to him, and how to do it... he was much more in control than she was, even when he was submitted to her. At the end of the movie, you can really see how annoying she is when she whines to Bob about he isn't submitting to her enough anymore, meanwhile her role has been taken over by his disease, which was doling out way more pain than she could have possibly given him, and all she could think to do as he died was try to look cool for the cameras. I think Flanagan should've ended up with that girl with CF who came to visit him, ha.
Quote from: Pharmakon on May 12, 2010, 06:28:35 PM
Quote from: XE on December 12, 2009, 10:23:17 PM
SICK: The Life & Death of Bob Flanagan, Supermasochist 1997
Pretty ok film. Still would recommend to start w/ Supermasochist book.
Sheree Rose one mean mama. Its rare to have genuine sadist (straight) woman. If I remember right Sheree was in abusive relationship before Bob. it was her time to be the punisher. Have seen this only once at film festival Helsinki late 90s. Have to get dvd.
Eleczema has used Flanagan samples.
Do you remember the whole film? Just watched this the other night on DVD. Amazing documentary. It gets really hard to watch at a point.... not because of him hammering a nail through his dick or any of the other masochistic acts, but more because of how depressing his life is towards the end, and the final scenes of his final moments...
I had a much different take on Sheree though. Bob was really the one pulling all the strings... the one with all the ideas, the one who taught her how to be that way, he told her what to do to him, and how to do it... he was much more in control than she was, even when he was submitted to her. At the end of the movie, you can really see how annoying she is when she whines to Bob about he isn't submitting to her enough anymore, meanwhile her role has been taken over by his disease, which was doling out way more pain than she could have possibly given him, and all she could think to do as he died was try to look cool for the cameras. I think Flanagan should've ended up with that girl with CF who came to visit him, ha.
hah now its official there is not any genuine dominant straight women exists. yeah I am sure you are right! I was little lad when watched the film. in my mind Sheree has allways been the one and only real sadist bad ass mama...
CF visiting girl, was she the one who got nipples pierced? if so yummy!
have to get the dvd.
I guess this has always been the case of "paid dominatrix". While some men use it as supposedly clever argument that female do have some power in sex industry, and dominance over gender, I think big part of the feminist have always argued that the dominatrix is the actual submissive. The "slave" pays. Slave makes requirements. Slave commands her through the wishes in the role. And she pretends to be master but submits the wishes and will of the "slave". I guess, it's the moment what requires the SNUFF "male supremacy" as soundtrack.
I do think there are dominant females, though. But perhaps in slightly different ways than in professional sex industry.
I think the true Dominatrix exists probably more in private relationships than in paid ones... I just think that Sheree in particular was a stupid twat who had no clue what she was talking about.
She seemed like one of those people who go through the motions without really understanding what they're doing. The people who get caught up in the "gear" rather than the actual psychological and physical control. I could say the same about a lot of noise ;)
yeah, the girl with CF who visited was the one who got her nipples pierced. They have a much more extended interview with her, 8 years later (and still alive somehow), and it's pretty interesting. I would definitely recommend the DVD.
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on May 13, 2010, 09:39:02 PM
I guess this has always been the case of "paid dominatrix". While some men use it as supposedly clever argument that female do have some power in sex industry, and dominance over gender, I think big part of the feminist have always argued that the dominatrix is the actual submissive. The "slave" pays. Slave makes requirements. Slave commands her through the wishes in the role. And she pretends to be master but submits the wishes and will of the "slave". I guess, it's the moment what requires the SNUFF "male supremacy" as soundtrack.
I do think there are dominant females, though. But perhaps in slightly different ways than in professional sex industry.
I used to live with "real" dominatrix" years ago and I can say that real life is bit different than all these dream/wank/lousy-movies
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Not a real documentary, but mr. Vulpes linked me pretty nice youtube link, interview with author who had book of modern pornography. Just phone interview for radio, not visuals other than book cover as still. He quotes Andreas Dworkin.. I can't recall exactly how it went, but in lines of pornography shows the fabrication of female, but truth about male. Which seems pretty much accurate, as far as I'm concerned.
When the pornographic fantasy world tries to invade into "real world" it seems to have tendencies mentioned above. Of course it does bring question whether the assumed "good female role" is the real one, or maybe just perverted meathole just waiting to blossom, eh eh..
Already long ago bought The Wonderful Horrible Life of Leni Riefenstahl dvd. Still waiting a moment to see it...
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on May 15, 2010, 06:43:46 PM
In what way related to quoted message?
Just wanted to point out that there´s a huge difference between real life and lousy wank-movies
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I witnessed a session with Dom & her Slave which was mildly interesting during the action but afterwards I thought it was pretty dumb. Listening to them talk was what ruined it. Basically like a married couple, she just didn't fuck him (Yeah, I know. JUST like a marriage!)
I use to know a woman who did some Dominating in a few of her relationships= whipping, wrestling, piercing (long before it was mainstream) etc. & she seemed to actually get a intense thrill from the action. Unfortunately, I lost touch with her years ago.
Back on-topic: there's a docu on underage prostitutes in Portland OR on HDNET this coming Tuesday that looks promising...
Quote from: halthan on May 15, 2010, 06:50:16 PM
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on May 15, 2010, 06:43:46 PM
In what way related to quoted message?
Just wanted to point out that there´s a huge difference between real life and lousy wank-movies
Well, otherwise fine, but the text I wrote was nothing about "wank movies", but about the "real life".
double post actually... Was mentioned in Darger topic...
Anyone seen multiple documents of Children of God? Perhaps issue to be discussed on Documentaries topic. But it is kind of amusing, that prior to murder/suicide thing, the documentaries involved some very "friendly", almost promotion-like things with just kind of entertaining stories about flirt fishing / whores for god hippie girls turned into alternative religion type of thing. When one of the ultimate victims, Davidito, "hero" of the Story of Davidito book takes revenge & commit suicide and records confessional VHS... Well, nature of the topics indeed changed. In industrial scene at least Swans and Pain Nail has dealt with the subject matter, but it seems to be quite unknown/forgotten for most of people? Not 100% sure if the Swans is actually about this, but pain nail most certainly.
Those who have no idea, check:
http://xfamily.org/index.php/Story_of_Davidito
and especially the video clips in end.
QuoteNarrator: 20/20 also asked Richard about "My Little Fish." That's the chapter in the cult publication which shows children in sexual poses with each other and with adults.
Richard: It's just a... it's a piece of educational material and we've learned many things through the years of childcare, taking care of children... It's actually fun to watch a child in... in this case, experience life.
Narrator: Dr. Margaret Singer is a psychologist and cult expert.
Reporter: How does that strike you as a statement from the father?
Singer: What he was saying, 'experience life,' shows a mother orally copulating a little boy and um, that's his opinion about what would usually in the United States be regarded as sexual abuse of a child.
And compared to past when those couple industrial albums came out (10-20 years ago) that referred to this, now is so damn easy to find material. As simple as go to youtube to check out even private VHS tapes sent to David Berg by cult members. It becomes quite bizarre, when step mother, father and son send the happy greetings and talk about how they have "shared eachother" and travel all those exotic countries with spreading gospel.
"The Bridge":
http://www.thebridge-themovie.com/new/index.html
Interesting and informative.
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Born into Brothels: Calcutta's Red Light Kids is a 2004 American documentary film about the children of prostitutes in Sonagachi, Kolkata's red light district. The widely acclaimed film, written and directed by Zana Briski and Ross Kauffman, won a string of accolades including the Academy Award for Documentary Feature in 2004.
Briski, a documentary photographer, went to Kolkata (Calcutta) to photograph prostitutes. While there, she befriended their children and offered to teach the children photography to reciprocate being allowed to photograph their mothers. The children were given cameras so they could learn photography and possibly improve their lives. Much of their work was used in the film, and the filmmakers recorded the classes as well as daily life in the red light district. The children's work was exhibited, and one boy was even sent to a photography conference in Amsterdam. Briski also recorded her efforts to place the children in boarding schools.
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A documentary, The Gift, by filmmaker Louise Hogarth is a timely investigation into a fascinating phenomenon -- the eroticization of deliberate HIV infection -- that shines a balanced yet uncompromising flashlight on the effectiveness of HIV prevention strategies and the mixed messages that continue to dangerously fuel a psychologically complex and potentially deadly game . Evenly presented yet unapologetically honest, Hogarth's film wades through very tricky and fragile political waters without being preachy or judgmental.
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With the end of his marriage, 43-year-old filmmaker Dennis O'Rourke is trying to understand how love can be simultaneously banal and profound. He comes to Bangkok, the fantasy mecca of exotic sex and painless love for Western men. When he meets a Thai prostitute he decides make a film about her.
The "Good Woman" of the story is Aoi. In Thai, her name means "sugar cane" or "sweet" -- not her real name, but the one she uses. She works as a prostitute, catering to the male tourists who crowd the girlie bars of Patpong.
Starting from this worst-possible condition their relationship is recorded: its evolution from fake sexual intimacy to collusion in the process of making the film and, finally to friendship and a kind of love.
Good Woman Of Bangkok is great , i never watched the other two
All three are very good, especially The Gift (still grateful to Unheard for introducing me to that flick).
We were catlking about the Italian lead years.
This is an interesting summery, with some imprecision regarding the "right wing" involvment especially in the second part of the problems.
http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2004/3117tension_italy.html
Quote from: tiny_tove on June 22, 2010, 04:31:00 PM
All three are very good, especially The Gift (still grateful to Unheard for introducing me to that flick).
We were catlking about the Italian lead years.
This is an interesting summery, with some imprecision regarding the "right wing" involvment especially in the second part of the problems.
http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2004/3117tension_italy.html
Thanks! All info involving Gladio/Years of Lead/P2/P26/Stay behind is very much appreciated here at Casa Masthugget.
One quick glance raises one question though: is P2 the new Illuminati? A bunch of more or less stable person have them pinned down as the arch enemy to whatever they hold dear.
they did in practice what all sort of mumbojumbo conspiracy sects have been accused of.
Consider that at the moment Italy fits 100% the "democratic rebirth" program outlined by Licio Gelli & co. and he is still around as a bird although he had his dirty fingers in everything dodgy happening in Italian.
I think you should consider learning Italian since there is a shitload of stuff regarding this obsession of yours ;)
I remember Gelli donated part of his archive to his town museum , so you're welcome to visit Tuscany anytime.
Of course he kept the best stuff for himself !
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on June 16, 2010, 11:19:40 PM
Anyone seen multiple documents of Children of God? Perhaps issue to be discussed on Documentaries topic. But it is kind of amusing, that prior to murder/suicide thing, the documentaries involved some very "friendly", almost promotion-like things with just kind of entertaining stories about flirt fishing / whores for god hippie girls turned into alternative religion type of thing. When one of the ultimate victims, Davidito, "hero" of the Story of Davidito book takes revenge & commit suicide and records confessional VHS... Well, nature of the topics indeed changed.
Many other second generation members were trying to tell their stories before Rodriguez's actions. See http://archive.xfamily.org/www.movingon.org/abuse.asp.html - the cult have always been very good at evading the law and covering up past actions. The xfamily site has some amazing material on there.
Some of my favourite documentaries:
Capturing The Friedmans
Stevie
A Hole In My Second Heart (excellent bonus 'making of' feature on a a Moodyson DVD - much better than the actual film!)
Documentary about the !Alarma! gore Zne. Really good watch. (Spanish with Hard Subtitles.)
http://www.vbs.tv/watch/vbs-news/alarma-1-of-3
Alix Lambert - The Mark of CainQuoteSailing ships, stars, angels and executioners The Mark of Cain chronicles the vanishing practice and language of Russian Criminal Tattoos. Captured in some of Russias most notorious prisons, including the fabled White Swan, the film traces the animus of the flowers of this carnal art by way of the brutality of its origins- the penitentiary and the criminal environment. Incisive interviews with prisoners, guards, and criminologists reveal the secret language of The Zone and The Code of Thieves of the vory v zakone.
As early as the 1920s, Russian prisons and Gulag began to attract the attention of researchers. The prisoners of the Stalinist Gulag, or "Zone," as it is called, developed a complex social structure that incorporated highly symbolic tattooing as a mark of rank. The very existence of these inmates at prisons and forced labor camps was treated by the state as a deep secret, and their tattoo art was considered a forbidden topic.
In the last decade, Russia's prison population has exploded; overcrowding has reached unimaginable proportions. Few other nations have had such a massive prison population. The most conservative estimates suggest that in the last decades, over thirty million of Russia's inmates have had tattoos even though the process is against the law inside prison. According to The Book of Genesis, God placed a mark on the world's first murderer before sending him into exile. The mark of Cain proclaimed its bearer as a criminal and social outcast; for centuries, prisoners and those who broke social codes were forcibly tattooed. In Russian prisons, tattooing emerged as a visual mode of communication linked with social division. The Mark of Cain tells the story of a fading art form and how that practice's death reflects transition in broader Russian society.
Quote from: HongKongGoolagong on July 07, 2010, 10:11:42 PM
Capturing The Friedmans
I have the 2xDVD edition of the document. Plenty of bonus material on 2nd disc. Good document, especially how it's created with pretty much no stand taken into any direction. Allowing people to talk, presenting themselves either in good or bad way, allowing also people to pretty much talk (most likely) made up stories what are later shown to be inaccurate. Case is left open. There is hardly a "real" conclusion what exactly did happen. In bonus material they talk how differently people react on it. How there were moments when people didn't leave the cinema, but stayed there arguing with rest of viewers about what infact happened.
Quote from: RyanWreck on July 25, 2010, 12:26:20 PM
Documentary about the !Alarma! gore Zne. Really good watch. (Spanish with Hard Subtitles.)
http://www.vbs.tv/watch/vbs-news/alarma-1-of-3
Do you know if it's possible to order/buy that Alarma magazine somewhere? I can't read spanish and i can't find the place on their website about ordering it.
Alarma is (relatively) easy to find around Los Angeles. And I would assume other cities with large Mexican populations.
Yesterday I saw Video Diaries of Ricardo Lopez, the infamous Björk 'stalker'. 1 hour and 44min package out of the 40 hours of video diaries the guy made. First he is very upset with Björk because she was in a relationship with a nigger. This thing sets him off to plan and build a bomb to send for her. The doc consists of his rants and some planning and bomb building. His mind really starts to fall apart after he quits his job and the end is really great. The last 10 minutes are really intense when he has totally lost it. Paints his face with green and red, no clothes on. then when the last song of is playing and he is breathing heavily the last breaths of his life, yells out some aggressive last words and finally putting a bullet in his head. Interesting trip to a mind of a lunatic with 100% realism.
Quote from: MT on August 16, 2010, 03:43:16 PM
1 hour and 44min
fuck
i ever seen only the final ^_^
I had no idea there was all this material
Quote from: theotherjohn on August 16, 2010, 01:15:24 PM
Quote from: tiny_tove on January 21, 2010, 11:22:04 AM
impossible.
This movies doesn't even exist in Italian language.
Once lost my vhs I never found again anybody owning it.
Is this it?
http://www.rai.tv/dl/RaiTV/programmi/media/ContentItem-4e08146c-8b6b-4add-ae93-d6e0d333be3a.html?p=0
I am in tears... yes, that's the one...
impressive sounds ;)
I received a dvd-r of the VIDEO DIARIES a couple wks back. Made it to the horrendous nudity. Not really that interesting to watch but the rants are amazing. Hard to believe no one has used samples. Guess I'll have to forward to the final 10 minutes.
Reindeerspotting
Main character was just found dead. Another narc gone
Quote from: halthan on September 11, 2010, 08:14:54 AM
Reindeerspotting
Main character was just found dead. Another narc gone
Yeah, he hanged himself in Cambodia.
Pics:
(http://img1.kohsantepheapdaily.com.kh/2010/7/516981cd-252a-43a9-af9b-33c9bd15b2fc.jpg)
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Quote from: NIKOZ on September 11, 2010, 01:18:54 PM
Quote from: halthan on September 11, 2010, 08:14:54 AM
Reindeerspotting
Main character was just found dead. Another narc gone
Yeah, he hanged himself in Cambodia.
Pics:
(http://img1.kohsantepheapdaily.com.kh/2010/7/516981cd-252a-43a9-af9b-33c9bd15b2fc.jpg)
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Actually, it was quite harsh doc
I enjoyed Reindeerspotting, shows brutally the lifestyle of a regular narc. Slowly developing to more and more extreme abuse of drugs (esp. after the doc). First I had hard time believing that person in the pictures could be him, but then again Reindeer was filmed in 2003, so 7 years can chance the outlook of a person a lot, especially if you are a narc.
Quote from: MT on September 14, 2010, 06:25:53 PM
I enjoyed Reindeerspotting, shows brutally the lifestyle of a regular narc. Slowly developing to more and more extreme abuse of drugs (esp. after the doc). First I had hard time believing that person in the pictures could be him, but then again Reindeer was filmed in 2003, so 7 years can chance the outlook of a person a lot, especially if you are a narc.
Yeah, it was really absurd, when he want abroad. He was like a kid in candystore, and next moment "I´m gonna stop subutex" then few minutes passed, and he was doing heroin and coke. I just wonder he lived this far
I used to spend a lot of time around drug scum and I'm always surprised people don't die sooner. It's like the desire for drugs keeps people kicking around long after their brain has stopped functioning at full capacity. In the city it's fairly easy to keep up a somewhat decent facade around normal people while you're rapidly deteriorating on the inside. The "need" keeps people alive. Granted a few years of abusing drugs regularly will seriously deteriorate your appearance.
I watched the dvd. First it seemed to be too slow paced and lame, especially the kotirosvo scene, hah. If wanting to hear this kind of dialogue, one can just go to bar. But it did get better. Or lets say, if not better, at least kind of typical. Knowing people of this type, I don't wonder that some people end up in such lifestyles, but I do wonder what the fuck these girls who hang out with them, get from this? You see them dressed decently, looking neat, with cider cans, sipping it with civilized teen girl style. And then some guy is picking up old needle from trash can to be able to shoot in vein. Pity? Excitement? .. .women..
saw a poster for this (http://www.afilmunfinished.com) at my local theater. anyone seen this yet?
http://www.afilmunfinished.com/
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on September 20, 2010, 10:37:19 AM
...but I do wonder what the fuck these girls who hang out with them, get from this? You see them dressed decently, looking neat, with cider cans, sipping it with civilized teen girl style. And then some guy is picking up old needle from trash can to be able to shoot in vein. Pity? Excitement? .. .women..
In the alternate version of Reindeer, some of the girls turn out to be a good ol' pirihuora.
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on September 20, 2010, 10:37:19 AMI do wonder what the fuck these girls who hang out with them, get from this? You see them dressed decently, looking neat, with cider cans, sipping it with civilized teen girl style. And then some guy is picking up old needle from trash can to be able to shoot in vein. Pity? Excitement? .. .women..
I've seen it happen, too. Nice, ambitious, intelligent, middle-class girl meets shit-on-legs fucktard and ends up pregnant, homeless, addicted and miserable. Too common a story to even consider. Humans are stupid.
Quote from: NIKOZ on September 11, 2010, 01:18:54 PM
Yeah, he hanged himself in Cambodia.
The "word on the streets" says he got involved with some rough crowd while in Cambodia, pissed them off and got snuffed.
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on September 22, 2010, 05:13:41 AM
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on September 20, 2010, 10:37:19 AMI do wonder what the fuck these girls who hang out with them, get from this? You see them dressed decently, looking neat, with cider cans, sipping it with civilized teen girl style. And then some guy is picking up old needle from trash can to be able to shoot in vein. Pity? Excitement? .. .women..
I've seen it happen, too. Nice, ambitious, intelligent, middle-class girl meets shit-on-legs fucktard and ends up pregnant, homeless, addicted and miserable. Too common a story to even consider. Humans are stupid.
I think it is the 'danger'. I seem to remember to have read that women (not all of them obviously) are attracted to men that portray risky behaviour. There would be an evolutionary explanation for this, but at the moment it's a bit fusy in my mind. If this is the case, then it might be that women who are attracted to this kind of junkies do have an over-expression of the tendency to like men who have a risky/dangerous lifestyle. Obviously, in this case, it would work counterproductive, since it doesn't ensure them to have healthy strong children. This, though, is nothing new when it comes to evolutionary processes. What works in one situation, doesn't necessarily is a good idea in another one. Also, over expression of certain tendencies can indeed lead to totally unproductive results. Some cases of paedophilia, for example, may be a simple over expression of the liking of younger girls/women of most men. In the case of paedophilia, this of course would be counterproductive as well, from the mans point of view. Because, all morals aside, he engages in sex (which equals energy and thus food) with a female which won't give him offspring.
Here's a nice, full, 80's expose on Satanism. You have to love how ridiculous people took "satanism" in the 80's.
http://videosift.com/video/The-Occult-Experience-absurd-80s-paranoia
Does anyone have any of the better exposes that Geraldo did in the 80's? Like his own take on satanism titled "Feast of the Beast" or some of his many looks at child abuse? Here is a nice clip (featuring a clip of Boyd Rice) from his talk show that dealt with "Satanism":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQot5f8dZlI
Or the very popular series on Willowbrook, a place apparently filled with naked retarded children running around in the dark and living in "horrific" conditions while being abused and eating shitty oatmeal.
http://video.foxnews.com/v/3920052/hell-on-earth
Quote from: Ashmonger on September 24, 2010, 05:30:04 PMI seem to remember to have read that women (not all of them obviously) are attracted to men that portray risky behaviour. There would be an evolutionary explanation for this, but at the moment it's a bit fusy in my mind. If this is the case, then it might be that women who are attracted to this kind of junkies do have an over-expression of the tendency to like men who have a risky/dangerous lifestyle. Obviously, in this case, it would work counterproductive, since it doesn't ensure them to have healthy strong children. This, though, is nothing new when it comes to evolutionary processes. What works in one situation, doesn't necessarily is a good idea in another one.
I get what you mean. The difference is that despite millennia of evolution we are now living in conditions opposite of those that developed those instincts in the first place. We don't have to hunt for food, so there is no need to risk, but the instincts remain. The instincts seem to remain as some kind of "pleasure principle", whereby the thrills an individual human organism gets, from taking drugs or fucking someone who takes drugs, are too instinctive to be considered by the individual (who, in a lot of cases, is too stupid to look at themselves anyway).
At least, that's how I see it.
I think that's indeed a way you can see it. Quite some of those instinctual reactions are totally out of place now (can't exactly think of other examples right now), but they just don't evolve, despite the new environment, because the change of environment we live in has gone way too fast on an evolutionary scale, which works over thousands of years.
So what's the deal w/Reindeerspotting? Trailer just looks like typical club kids i.e. nothing special so why document them or is it b/c of the location? I assume that's Finland?
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on September 28, 2010, 02:36:20 AM
So what's the deal w/Reindeerspotting? Trailer just looks like typical club kids i.e. nothing special so why document them or is it b/c of the location? I assume that's Finland?
I think it is partially because of the location (a small town in Northern Finland quite near the Arctic Circle), and partially because the material is somewhat 'authentic'. Captured by one of the junkies with a hand held camera, it wasn't originally intended to be a proper documentary but was compiled into a movie years later from the original footage. For many Finns this offers the only way to actually see any 'real junkies' as our country is still rather untainted by their presence on the quotidian street level (although not so in East Helsinki etc. I guess?).
9TO5 DAYS IN PORN dvd
2010 release of Strand Releasing. I guess this has been done some years ago, though? They spent couple years making it. First getting to know with people, then shooting something with them, returning few months later and so on. This might be kind of rare cases of porn document without big moral agenda. No focus on how much $$ they make, no focus on how many people get damaged, how many are abused, and so on. Of course issues are covered, but basically it is pretty neutral document including some of the more interesting people. There are the usual Sharon Mitchell and Stagliano, but we're fucking lucky that no bullshit Jenna Jameson, no boooooooring Vivid/Wicked or other lesbo labels. None of the old now obsolete companies. No mentioning of any classic are of porn. Simply no need to another feature covering some details of John Holmes and Ron Jeremy.
Basically it's Sasha Gray, Belladonna, Katja Kassin, Audrey Hollander (with mostly his husband Otto in charge of talking. His Supercore movies are pretty good in genre of hc sportfucking) and few others. Belladonna and Sasha Grey are the most interesting characters in general. Most of other girls are so meaningless, they shouldn't have reason to speak on film. Those two girls have ideas and intentions of their own. Well spoken, and doesn't appear to be ruined wrecks. At least at this point.
When its said "uncunt, uncencored, unrated", they should have shown exactly what it's about. They do show girls with cum on their faces, drooling, getting fucked in sets, but all those basically happen from angle which hides the actual HC view. If you're talking about getting throatfucked, double-ass-fucked etc, why choose frame what NEARLY shows it, but doesn't. There would be necessity to do porn document in terms of porn.
I think I saw it on DiabolikDVD: a dvd of Jamie Gillis talking/answering ?'s from an audience. Check the new releases section.
http://www.diabolikdvd.com/category/Documentary/Jamie-Gillis-~-Summer-of-Sleaze-Live-and-Uncensored-(NTSC-Region-1).html
Quote from: Unheard on June 20, 2010, 03:01:22 PM
Born into Brothels: Calcutta's Red Light Kids is a 2004 American documentary film about the children of prostitutes in Sonagachi, Kolkata's red light district. The widely acclaimed film, written and directed by Zana Briski and Ross Kauffman, won a string of accolades including the Academy Award for Documentary Feature in 2004.
Briski, a documentary photographer, went to Kolkata (Calcutta) to photograph prostitutes. While there, she befriended their children and offered to teach the children photography to reciprocate being allowed to photograph their mothers. The children were given cameras so they could learn photography and possibly improve their lives. Much of their work was used in the film, and the filmmakers recorded the classes as well as daily life in the red light district. The children's work was exhibited, and one boy was even sent to a photography conference in Amsterdam. Briski also recorded her efforts to place the children in boarding schools.
I have contact in one movie shop in Finland, and mentioned few titles I would like to take, and this was among them. I didn't even remember that it was such a big film, winning oscar! Well, it seems clear that this thing influenced the finnish photo empowerment photoproject/book Maailman Kaunein Tyttö. When I heard of that, I pre-ordered the signed copy. And didn't know even then, that it was to become one of the most celebrated Finnish photobook of recent times. And like kids with cameras, it also intended to continue as social work project.
Brothel-life is harsh. But film is everything else buy exploitative. There are moments of rough footage of extreme poverty, kids chained in shackles, being beaten up, drug consumption. Verbal fights between dirty whores. Who are the mothers that work with often just curtains separating them from kids. Underage prostitutes, stress and disappointments. But overall feeling is more of joy. Kids using cheap cameras, shoot on color film, capturing amazing photos. Of course there is element of luck and accident - which is basically what most of best photography is. I'm surpriced how bright and thoughtful most of these little kids are, and what kind of remarks they are able to come up with photos.
I generally strongly dislike almost all what has to do anything with India. I have pretty much zero interest. This was decent! Wouldn't go there even if I was paid, though.
Got also, but yet to watch:
Annie Sprinkles HERSTORY OF PORN dvd
SUMMER OF SLEAZE dvd (with J.Gillis), 42nd street sleaze nostalgia. thanks to bitewerk for tip!
ENDLESS ORGY FOR THE GODDESS OF PERVERSION dvd, documentary about camp/grindhouse sleaze.
reports to follow.....
"I generally strongly dislike almost all what has to do anything with India. I have pretty much zero interest. "
I'm with you. I hate the place. Seems like a true HELLHOLE. The food is disgusting too.
That docu w/the kids getting cameras. I think I saw that on HBO. Are there any docu's about the bride burnings? Seems like I once saw something about a serial killer in India; killing prostitutes and it was basically ok. Just don't harm a rat, monkey, or cow. Let shit all over everything while running wild...
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_m47RlRiYoAg/TEF6Hg-oClI/AAAAAAAAIVs/geDNWXdFmWk/s400/occult_experience_sony_vhs_front2.jpg)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ef_THJ_XH-E
"The Occult Experience film was produced by Cinetel Productions Ltd in 1987, then later released on VHS in 1992 and approximate running time is 87 minutes. This rare, less than 10,000 copies made is an award-winning documentary that covers the subjects of Witchcraft and the Goddess Movement, Satanism, Shamanism, Christianity, Druidism and Egyptian ritual magick found across North America and Europe. In addition, this award-winning documentary also provides the viewer with an inside look into the Solitary practice as well as a look into Circles, Groves and Covens, each with its own spiritual customs through revealing interviews and filmed rituals by Z. Budapest, Alex Sanders, Janet & Stuart Farrar, Margot Adler, Selena Fox, Michael Aquino and Olivia Robertson to name just a few in a close up look into the various spiritual practices of old and new."
Japanese Suicide Forest : http://www.vbs.tv/en-ca/watch/vbs-news/aokigahara-suicide-forest-v3--2 (http://www.vbs.tv/en-ca/watch/vbs-news/aokigahara-suicide-forest-v3--2)
Quote from: Voûte on November 05, 2010, 11:40:27 PM
Japanese Suicide Forest : http://www.vbs.tv/en-ca/watch/vbs-news/aokigahara-suicide-forest-v3--2 (http://www.vbs.tv/en-ca/watch/vbs-news/aokigahara-suicide-forest-v3--2)
I liked it, short documentary but good
I found something interesting in there too:
Reed Ghazala: The father of circuit bending.http://www.vbs.tv/es-es/watch/motherboard/soundbuilders-reed-ghazala
I just saw the 'Understanding Anti-Semitism' DVD that came along with the Brethren 10". Definately interesting, however there are some minor points: 1h47min is just too long since it's mainly pictures and the same voice telling everything and I didn't really like the Christian viewpoint they seemed to take in the part about prostitution, homophilia..
After seeing it, I checked the bottle of Heinz Ketchup in the fridge and indeed there was this sign, which I had seen before, but never cared about, one of the signs they showed that this is kosher. What a bunch of crap (kosher food)...
Of course one can remember, understanding anti-semitism, isn't exactly mere document as it is also propaganda film. Although biased standpoint seems the most common when talking about political extremism.
I have small pile of leftover discs. If someone wants to see the document without buying the 10", remind me and could be thrown in to orders. Handful of extra copies..
But, to continue subject, if one wants to see more "professional" document, I think excellent document is: DEFAMATION by Yoav Shamir.
Jewish guy doing document about anti-semitism, which he has never experienced himself or really know how it happens.
And it is HILARIOUS to see the massive scale of anti-semitic violence what ADL has to respond with their budget of millions of dollars. Obviously, ADL didn't like how they were shown in film. Most likely very accurately.
You are nearly bursting into laughter when ADL has meeting with NYC police about uprise of anti-semitic offenses, which was by their statement... hmm was it 1500 per year? And when they are asked to produce any backing for the "statistics", only thing they can show from past few months is two guys not getting holiday from work. Which was clearly anti-semite offense. One report about someone saying something antisemitic online. And one elderly lady hearing officer say in phone conversation "first I have to deal with this jewish shit". That's months worth, while their "statistics" should indicate over hundred per month in USA.
It shows very nicely the journalist ethics. They interview of Israeli newspaper responsible for reporting about anti-semitism. He says, loud and clear, something like "in these matters you can't be journalist" (don't remember 100% exact quote, though). They simply forge news about antisemitism for their own advantage and consider that as good way to produce newspaper.
It is amusing, that nobody seems to like the boss of ADL. Even his friends are like "well. he is.. you know..". And the enemies, which include anything from jewish professors to rabbi's etc, blatantly call him criminal, thief, cheater, etc. And when you are at the wrong side, he will simply do his best to crush you.
QuoteADL Statement on "Defamation," a Documentary Film by Yoav Shamir
Two years ago Yoav Shamir approached the Anti-Defamation League for assistance on a documentary he was making on the subject of anti-Semitism. We provided him wide access to film ADL in action, in our offices, at our annual national meeting, on leadership missions in Italy, Ukraine and Poland, and in Israel. Our expectation was that his documentary would present a serious portrait of what Jews worldwide face today -- anti-Semitism in both its age-old and new forms, and the actions taken to counter it.
After seeing "Defamation" we can only say the film fell far short of our expectation. Rather than document anti-Semites and their hatred of Jews and the Jewish State of Israel, the film belittles the issue and portrays the work of ADL and that of his own country as inconsequential. There was so much more Shamir could have and should have done.
"Defamation" is neither enlightening, nor edifying, nor compelling. It distorts the prevalence and impact of anti-Semitism and cheapens the Holocaust. It is Shamir's perverse, personal, political perspective and a missed opportunity to document a serious and important issue.
-- May 8, 2009
This came on TV already, and probably available just about everywhere with ease. Check out for example youtube, at least trailers and other clips.
very interesting, I was wondering, is there a documentary about right wing extremists of the Jewish Defence League?
Quote from: tiny_tove on November 26, 2010, 09:37:58 AM
very interesting, I was wondering, is there a documentary about right wing extremists of the Jewish Defence League?
Yeah, I would like to see the dirt on JDL. Once called by the FBI the biggest domestic terror group in America.
Defamation in seven parts: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O92wqGBuCuU&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O92wqGBuCuU&feature=related)
GRAPHIC SEXUAL HORROR is pretty interesting. Reminds me of H.O.M. loops mixed with Japanese S&M. The guy's early work is interesting too (paintings, I think).
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on November 27, 2010, 11:59:20 PM
GRAPHIC SEXUAL HORROR is pretty interesting. Reminds me of H.O.M. loops mixed with Japanese S&M. The guy's early work is interesting too (paintings, I think).
i watched it last night. decent flick for sure. from a documentary standpoint it was nothing spectacular, but the content more than made up for it (which is something i think the filmmakers knew going into it)
yesterday in local theater. 3 euro to see two Herzog documents:
LEKTIONEN DER FINSTERNIS (Lessons of Darkness) 1991/92 55min
WOODABE – DIE HIRTEN DER SONNE (Woodabe – Herdsmen of the Sun) 1989 49min
Lessons of Darkness, 2nd gulf war material, which for major part is slow paced footage of destroyed landspace, demolished oil technology, lakes made out of black oil. Intense oil fires and people putting them out... and for reason or another, setting them on fire again. Very impressive visions of total destruction. Couple short interviews of victims, but for most of all, it leaves the human issues and war itself in distance, and focuses on obsessive visions of destroyed structures build in desert.
Herdsmen of the sun is tribe of negroes living in edge of sahara. With very little material possession and hated by surrounding tribes, they have their own ways of living. Document follows most of all the ritual of "mating". Their custom is that all the men make up and dress up into days long dance session where females pick the most beautiful man etc. When their aethetics are what they are, you'll be seeing slightly trannie looking guys, with blue lipstick and tribal masks, trying to expose as much white as they can, meaning bizarre grinning smiles and bulging they eyes as open as possible. It looks like ghetto nuthouse version of Culture Club's gig, where everybody insists to look like Boy George.
Series continues every sunday, with 2-3 documents for couple of months.
LETZTE WORTE (Last Words) 1967/68 13min
Short and highly surreal document of solitary man who lived in deserted island originally designed for lepers, until police got him out of there by force. It makes very little sense. People repeating same lines of speach over and over and over again. Bizarre old mens duo performing music with exotic instruments, and so on.
LAND DES SCHWEIGENS UND DER DUNKELHEIT (Land of Silence and Darkness) 1970/71 82min
Totally harsh document about people who have either born or simply later become deaf & blind. Focusing on 56 year old lady, who helps other deaf-blinds to handle this horrid fate. She lost the sight and sounds later on, so she could learn how to speak. Some harsher characters are for example 22 year old guy, who was born that way (looks handicapped anyways), and he was never stimulated in any way other than some soft easy foods fed by his father. This 22 year old knows nothing and understands nothing. It's something vaguely human sitting in room, feeling objects, hitting himself and drooling. Simply just existing.
While document addresses questions of values of society towards handicapped etc., and probably being germany in year 1970, I guess it's pretty clear how things are. To me, immediately raises questions of what exactly IS human, and what does this empathy for some unconscious piece of meat achieve? Not talking of the someone who can live with the problems, but those, who don't even have a clue they even live. And by standards of human, probably even doesn't. If this document would have been made 30 years earlier.. what would have it looked like? Probably not doctors with sonic vibrations trying to teach child some expressions he never was able and never will be able to hear or see, of abstract concepts he will never be able to understand. The little joy he gets from sparkling water in shower probably later on will change when finds out possibilities of auto-erotic stimulations, heh... If I'd be deaf and blind, I hope someone would have courtesy to guide me to high enough cliff to jump down!
Some of you might be interested by this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP8icVH5PU4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP8icVH5PU4)
Quote from: Voûte on February 07, 2011, 02:50:23 PM
Some of you might be interested by this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP8icVH5PU4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP8icVH5PU4)
Damn, that Tunnel Canary sounds good! Great female "vocals".
HOW MUCH WOOD WOULD A WOODCHUCK CHUCK... (Beobachtungen zu einer neuen Sprache) 1976 45min
Utterly strange target for document. It's basically just 45 minutes of cow auction. They are competing on the world championship of auctioning, and what you hear, is basically just ultrafast nonsense babble. It's like audiopoetry put in different context.
HUIE'S PREDIGT (Huie's Sermon) 1980 42min
Reverend Huie in Brooklyn, has a sermon filled with the typically negroe enthusiasm. You won't have a trace of the nordic miserable protestant sermons where audience falls asleep, but intense ranting transforming to free form gospel organ soul. He'll address the problems of the 80's. Homosexuality and all such things, yet it's just frantic yelling, occasionally think this is almost like listening some good old J.Castor about the buttsisters. Document is just the sermon. From start to the climax ending. No interviews or such things. Very little drive by footage of brooklyn, which looks pretty miserable in 1980.
GOD'S ANGRY MAN (Glaube und Währung - Dr. Gene Scott, Fernsehprediger) 1980 44min
TV evangelist Eugene Scott, from late 70's/80's, huge money scams and intense TV appearances. He'll yell, mock, ridicule, beg, stare the screen with mesmerizing look... to raise money for christ, even up to 1 million a month! In interviews it's shown to be guy with unsure of his faith, yet when I look for his biography in wikipedia, he seems to have been active till quite recently. Just died 2005, and had continued until the last days. Some pretty good moments when he says he refuses to talk anymore in the broadcast until they've got 600$ more, to reach planned 30000 for that day. And when people seem to hesitate, he does sit in silence for reasonable amount of time, until bursts into violent verbal abuse of people not understanding what the commitment to christ really means.
None of these among best Herzog, but still pretty good studies mostly focusing on language and performance.
secrets of the tribe
documentany about the scandal behind anthropologists who studied native peoples living in brazil and venezuela.
good stuff and might appeal to some even if one is not intrested in nerdy study facts and the history of Homo sapiens.
Herzog trip!
The documentaries are great. Fata Morgana is the best. I wish the band in part III had records.
Just watched "Why Men Rape", a National Film Board of Canada educational video featuring ten convicted rapists talking about their crimes, and some far less interesting students and police officers talking about something or other.
Recorded all the tasty audio.
http://www.onf-nfb.gc.ca/eng/collection/film/?id=12982
(My girlfriend wanted me to point out that she rented it for me because she knew I like rape.)
Taanila Mika: The Dawn of DIMI. -DVD
This is great piece of Finnish electronic music history. It's document about Erkki Kurenniemi, the guy who build these 60's Dimi instruments. At first in university's early 60's electronic studio and then with his own company. Occasionally it is nearly pure noise but most of all just strange colorful electronic sounds.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sj2733mvbow
I don't think best works to be heard in youtube, but some example, and extras of the dvd.
The more interesting than the electronic gadgets and self build "computer" instruments, is the character himself. He is obsessed by human transformation from flesh & bone into artificial intelligence. For decades he has collected his own memories. Obsessively photographing minimum of 100 recollections a day, doing sound recordings of his own thoughts and collecting everything, from shop receipts etc. So eventually in future, these memories can be uploaded in virtual intelligence, where he can have sort of rebirth.
DVD is available with english subtitles. This was directed(=made) by the guy who did Musiikkivyöry project back in early 80's, who later became very productive film maker. Due being sponsored and co-released under wings of Kiasma museum etc, it's easy to get over here. Kurenniemi collection CD is released by Johanna. I think last year that company was sold to Universal? So under wings of multinational corporation, CD may be easy to get, or buried and forgotten...
There was that topic of scientific noise on other side of board. From the dvd extras, you can check out his theoretical sound writings. It's like reading physics books. And since the guy is scientist, it is.. Diagrams, formulas, writings,... harsh stuff.
MASSNAHMEN GEGEN FANATIKER (Precautions Against Fanatics) 1969 12min
This is some of the weirdest stuff! Face documentary made at the horse track. There are guys protecting horses from the fanatics. They repeat the same lines of dialogue for minutes and do utmost surreal things. Recommended!
DIE BEISPIELLOSE VERTEIDIGUNG DER FESTUNG DEUTSCHKREUTZ
(The Unprecedented Defence of the Fortress Deutschkreuz) 1966 15min
4 guys in fortress, finding guns and uniforms. There is nothing there. No enemy, no war. Just 4 guys running around playing war in abandoned building. Weird stuff.
ECHOS AUS EINEM DÜSTEREN REICH (Echoes From a Somber Empire) 1990 87min
Central Africa at 70's. Very nice documentary following the smell of french army negro returning to his homeland, taking over the country, declaring himself as emperor, abusing the people. Rape, cannibalism, utmost corruption and absolute power of one man making decision. Journalist who was captured and tortured and held in prison, returns years later when the old emperor has been already sentenced to death - twice. It's very nice documentary how it was possible to really live like a savage king still during 80's. Eating people, walking around with golden diamond decorated crown. The last piece of the old decayed zoo of emperor, with few somber wild animals in mini-sized cages. When "gorilla", which is in fact chimpanzee(?) starts to smoke tobocca, the main man of document just says this is too much. This is the end scene, no more this shit. Most definitely recommended document!
INTO ETERNITY
Might have been mentioned before, and would fit under architecture thread as well. About the practical and philosophical issues regarding the creation of storage facilities for nuclear waste, somewhere in the Finnish nowhere-forests. How can we today predict what will happen to society and humanity the next 100.000 years, how communicate DANGER so it will be understand by postapocalyptic tribes returning after next ice age, etc? Esthetically pleasing and interesting subject, available here (http://svtplay.se/v/2312079/k_special/into_eternity?cb,a1364145,1,f,-1/pb,a1364142,1,f,-1/pl,v,,2325875/sb,p102870,1,f,-1) (I hope outside Sweden as well - live with the subtitles & poor pronunciation) until March 6, if not look for it elsewhere.
A short documentary or a long report about very angry russian right-wing extremists: http://current.com/shows/vanguard/84906361_from-russia-with-hate.htm (http://current.com/shows/vanguard/84906361_from-russia-with-hate.htm)
Part way through Video Nasties: The Definitive Guide.
Very enjoyable, pretty comprehensive set, clocks in around 13.5hrs in total. First disc with doc is good, doc feels a bit short. Probably not much else to say on the matter but feels a little like it doesn't stray too far from documented opinion already. Good introduction however and an enjoyable watch, thankfully spared the likes of Eli Roth or other such Hollywood cunts gorming over the vids being "like, totally influential man".
Second disc has trailers for all 39(?) films banned by DPP, with synopsis for each. Speakers from main doc offering review of sorts for each film, some guests more interesting to listen to than others. Disc three has the remaining films that were banned then unbanned, by the looks of things. Not got that far as to watch yet. Overall, a pretty neat set.
jaw dropping every week
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HiUMlOz4UQ
a co-worker of mine just passed me an HD with this. will watch it even more excited.
ifots, that BBC series looks stunning!
Last documentary viewed was William S. Burroughs: A Man Within, released last year. (williamsburroughsthemovie.com) It's a thematic approach towards Burroughs' life and work. It does not go very deep, and consists in a large part of various celebrities (Iggy Pop, Patti Smith, John Waters, Gus Van Sant, P-Orridge etc.) talking about Burroughs. Kinda disappointing, but a few of the anecdotes are peripherally interesting, as is some of the footage. Probably worth seeing at some stage if you're interested in WSB, but far from essential viewing.
Anyone see this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cC4NllE1M4&feature=player_embedded#at=60
@ davenpdx cheers i will check that out
Bob Flanagan...i have the re/search book on him (not my cup of tea subject matter wise, i just like the re/search range)
i will take a look at this tho!
Yeah, i saw the Flanagan film on a festival a few years ago. Some pretty strong fakir/masochist stuff in it, don´t watch if nails in the penis upsets your stomach, haha. Actually it is also a rather touching portrait as it shows the mans big pain in life, so big and constant that the self injuries is just a drop in an allready overflowing ocean of pain.
I felt it was simultaneously depressing and inspiring.
Sheree Rose was kind of a bitch at the end there.
documentary is interesting yet book is much better, especially when describing his sickness.
poor guy.
Quote from: ironfistofthesun on February 28, 2011, 01:01:22 AM
jaw dropping every week
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HiUMlOz4UQ
I checked out Anttila supermarket discount campaign, and had recollection of you mentioning some BBC related document thing. Found copy of HOME, and though, that was what was mentioned. But it wasn't. It reminds like modern, more propagandist, less artistic version of Koyaanisqatsi. It shows life out of balance. I think the dialogue gets sometimes too much, and the fingerpointing too obvious, but what a remarkable footage! One just can't get enough of slowmotion aerial footage.... One and half hour speech to save the world:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqxENMKaeCU
If you can't handle it. Turn of the sound, put some good record on and enjoy the scenery.
Just came from TV while ago. Related, to theme above. Pyramids of Waste a.k.a. The Light Bulb Conspiracy. Pretty good view on core of consumerism. It's mechanism and sheer impossibility. Complete one hour, yet some may need subtitles, found on other files:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HnW6Mm5sUI
Couple weekends passed without mandatory Herzog document due other obligations. Just returned from screening of THE WHITE DIAMOND (2004). 87 minutes document of following british engineer who build home made mini zeppelin. His similar earlier trip 11 years earlier ended up in crash, killing his friend, nature document filmer. Now they travel to MASSIVE rainforests to mystical Kaieteur waterfall. Herzogs seems to make the document simply on gut feeling. In moment when they are just lifting the zeppelin to air, he notices this tranquil rastafarian sitting in chair, mumbling about big white diamond on the air. And after this, the man simply steals the show as one of main characters. While before he was just one miner who was hired to help to carry the stuff through the jungle. Later part of the film where they show the long scenes next to waterfall is simply piece of art itself. Totally beyond. Recommended!
Watched a couple of great docu's on the National Geographic channel about tsunami's. Also on NatGeo is "Hard Times" on Tuesdays nights about scumbag prisoners. Thurston Moore narrates.
has anybody seen richard stanley (dust devil/hardware)'s documentaries about otto rahan, etc?
I know there was a special collection about his documents in USA, but I think it was region 1 only.
OLYMPIA dvd set. First I was turned off by the bad transfer of film-to-dvd. Some of it looked as if this "first time on dvd" release was actually taken from VHS, but it looks like low quality transfer... Not totally crap, but considering the noble qualities of this material, one would expect nothing but prime !
-Jugend der Welt, 1936 winter olympics at Garmish-Partenkirchen. Not so perfect image, but fuck, look at those skijumpers!! Flying like birds, falling the dead soldiers quite often. And the luge sport or whatever you call it. People yelling sieg hail to support the men sliding in icy pipes, no helmets, no any protective gear. Damn, it must hurt when they fly off the pipe edge. Looks like there could be casualties. In Herzog document of... was it late 70's or early 80's with skijumper, and it looked like totally lethal, but these guys, decades earlier.. just look at the japanese kamikaze guy take as much speed and just fly to land on his face perhaps 100m later... uh? No helmet, just regular clothes.
-Festival Of The Nations, the normal documentary part of Leni Riefenstahl. 1936 summer olympics. My favorites are high jumping. Both female and male. And shot put. The grande finale is Finnish athlete Sulo Bärlund throwing 2 olympic records, but then the german comes and pushes the ball of steel just little bit further, and damn Hitler is excited! And also that germans got 3rd place. And was it this or measure guy of the "3 step jump" who had hitler mustache too. Spear throwing is ok, Finns got two medals, but if it isn't the sir Seppo Räty, I don't really care. All the sports look very natural and low-tech. Everything seems more about actual sport event, than some gadget/tool/mattress comfort. Even high jumping is without any soft mattresses. Just jump as much as you can and land in the ground. That's fine. German girls with swastika decorations in their chests do 150cm. I'd like to see the modern day pirihuora skingirl do the same. Or slobs like me.
-Festival of Beauty. This is of course the reason why this dvd is being watched and why Riefenstahl is such a goddess of film magick. And that's the reason I didn't watch it yet. Saving it for the good moment.
Double dvd includes also various other bonus features. Stills, biographies, one more documentary about making documents.
Quote from: tiny_tove on March 21, 2011, 01:02:36 PM
has anybody seen richard stanley (dust devil/hardware)'s documentaries about otto rahan, etc?
I know there was a special collection about his documents in USA, but I think it was region 1 only.
I have the multi-disc set for DUST DEVIL that has documentaries but I do not think I've checked them out. I have no clue who Otto Rahan is. I'llt ake a look at the dvd set...
ROMUA, RUISKEITA JA RUTINAA or what whas the title? Got to take sneak pre-view of this documentary of contemporary Finnish noise/pe. 25 minutes, fast paced and nicely edited with Grunt, Bizarre Uproar, Sick Seed, U.N.D., Haare, Umpio, Golden Rain, Halthan, Manic/Depression, Keränen.. and more?! Some guys get merely 10 seconds of fame, while others get much more. Addition with live clips and stills of some covers. It's made to be something that those who don't know the scene or genre at all, can still get something out of it. It never goes to some nit-pick level about specific methods of creating sound or discussing particular records or bands such, which might be disappointment to some, but relief for many. This will be screened in some festivals in finland, and I guess classifieds may be good place to inform when to go to check it out if opportunity arises. Subtitled DVD may follow later on, but I would suspect too early to talk about that now. So most of all relevant to Finns, and especially those who're involved and want to see themselves making fools of themselves, hah...
Don't expect some "complete view" of how things are or were. This still focuses on the relatively narrow side, which one could perhaps connect with activities is Suomi Industrial Chaos Kollektive. Perhaps one day there is possibility to try do deep investigation of whole genre including all the splinters to every direction. Starting from the 60's happenings & experiments to contemporary diversity. It would just be draining project to do.
Sounds interesting, hopefully I can get a chance to see it somewhere. Even though the information value would be minimal, a visual presentation of finnish scene on big screen? Hell yeah!
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on March 23, 2011, 10:16:25 PM
Quote from: tiny_tove on March 21, 2011, 01:02:36 PM
has anybody seen richard stanley (dust devil/hardware)'s documentaries about otto rahan, etc?
I know there was a special collection about his documents in USA, but I think it was region 1 only.
I have the multi-disc set for DUST DEVIL that has documentaries but I do not think I've checked them out. I have no clue who Otto Rahan is. I'llt ake a look at the dvd set...
It should be Otto Rahn and the film in question is called The Secret Glory and is a part of Subversive Films Dust Devil box set.
Indiana Jones is supposed to be based on Otto Rahn. Speilberg/Lucas basing a film on a SS-officer...
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on March 27, 2011, 06:50:03 PM
ROMUA, RUISKEITA JA RUTINAA
Tänään Night visionsissa ennen Devil's playgroundia.
Quote from: Strömkarlen on March 28, 2011, 10:26:53 AM
It should be Otto Rahn and the film in question is called The Secret Glory and is a part of Subversive Films Dust Devil box set.
ok
brilliant I will check, although I have heard there are more documentaries by him and they should be all in one box
Went to see ROMUA, RUISKEITA JA RUTINAA last night in Night Visions.
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on March 27, 2011, 06:50:03 PMIt's made to be something that those who don't know the scene or genre at all, can still get something out of it.
Pretty succesfull in that, since "normal" people in the audience were laughing more than when watching average comedy film. Especially during Manic/Depression interview segments, and when clip of Grunt - Trite background video was shown and when guy of Golden Rain told about his "rape fantasy" lyrics. :)
It was bit too short, hopefully in dvd-release(?) there will be some extra material.
I think I may have forgotten to say, but yes, it is most of all humor document. Not that it would be jokes, but that there hardly is any stone cold faces talking about deep things, but it's most often amusing!
Sounds great, really hoping that this would be put on dvd. We shall see
CITY RUINS - Cleveland industrial/noise document. See announcement:
http://www.special-interests.net/forum/index.php?topic=1107.0
I was very positively surprised! One could say that this is document for experts. I think 2+ hours length, with quite decent length live clips featured between interviews, it is for noise fanatics. It's not something one could broadcast in TV and perhaps even for film festivals, it's just too long, with many people discussing just about same things. Which from perspective of guy, who's interested what noise people say, is very good. But from perspective of flow of documentary viewed by "outsiders", maybe not perfect choice.
Some of the bands, I would not rate very high by musical standards, while others, are up there in the highest international levels. Everybody is very much down to earth and all discussion are very relaxed. You got the old veterans, you got the world wide famous guys, you got the rising names of gutter noise, you got the relatively newbies or unknown persons. There is coverage of past as well as current day.
While the red line of the document is how Cleveland is unique, how the industrial decay of midwest affects their sound, and how everything is bleak, violent, desperate... and how its unique that noise bands team up with punk, grind, metal, freejazz, etc... and I've got the feeling like... is this people from Denmark talking? Is this people from Finland talking? hehe... I mean, you get very cozy feeling of Cleveland noise community, which is very active with regular small scale shows, stuff aired in radio, labels putting out stuff, and so on. But, when things go to point that many people repeat the "it's nothing like this anywhere in the world", I do wonder... is it so? Of course we can see many differences, but also how in many ways, things are just the same. Perhaps many europeans have not used to idea of "basement shows". Perhaps it is little bit more high-tech and glitchier or trendy in other places, but also, when I view the stacks of gear people often have - or the computers, I think over here I've often seen people get by with much much less, and much low-tech.
I would most definitely recommend this. Noise/Pe/industrial documents are rare, and with some technical shortages, this is essential. I also like the way it puts the face and real person behind some of the stuff, what used to be just a anonymous tape in the shelves. Even if some could argue that it ruins some of the mystery, with seeing guys in shorts and t-shirts and sneakers make racket in corner of bar - after seeing this, I think if I'd be going to US, I'd be more than willing to check out some Cleveland noise action on the spot!
And: also distributed by Freak Animal...
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Quote from: bitewerksMTB on November 27, 2010, 11:59:20 PM
GRAPHIC SEXUAL HORROR is pretty interesting. Reminds me of H.O.M. loops mixed with Japanese S&M. The guy's early work is interesting too (paintings, I think).
i watched it last night. decent flick for sure. from a documentary standpoint it was nothing spectacular, but the content more than made up for it (which is something i think the filmmakers knew going into it)
Got the dvd and it is nice. I have seen lots of insex clips online over the years, yet never really thought anything else about it, that this is very well done. That company mastermind was artist, who had the knowledge of past bondage classics as well as influence from serial killers, (not just some random porn enthusiast doing few knots) coupled with enthusiasm to put money & effort in things (Having own blacksmith to make the equipment for example) makes it exceptional. Not just the cheapest sex-shop cuffs and call them "shackles".
Well shot stuff, from nice angles. It was "just" a site. No dvd's, no magazines. So basically out of my "normal" interests. Some of their work has been bootlegged by the Japanese magazine makes, but unfortunately it also means cencored works. If you could couple the artistic vision of this site, and resources & distribution of some good book maker, it would be amazing.
And I must give credit that THIS is just about the best porn related document what comes to showing actual subject matter. They show goods. Even pretty long clips of extreme action, what would be illegal to distribute in many countries in first place. So yes, if you see the dvd available somewhere, grab it!
I enjoyed Graphix Sexual Horror a lot. I think it was advertised even on Rue Morgue magazine (at the moment the best horror themed magazine around)
I am reading this article that may be interesting:
Child migrants: 'I didn't belong to anybody'
Harold Haig was among thousands of child migrants who were deported to Australia and subjected to horrific physical and sexual abuse. A new film depicts their plight
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o guardian.co.uk, Thursday 7 April 2011 20.30 BST
o Article history
Harold Haig who was a child migrant
Harold Haig, who was sent to Australia when he was 10. Photograph: Graham Turner for the Guardian
When Harold Haig was 10 years old, a man in a suit came to visit. "He said to me, 'Would you like to go to this wonderful place called Australia where the sun shines all day every day and you pick oranges off the trees, live in a little white cottage by the sea and ride a horse to school?'" remembers Haig, who is 73 but looks younger, with Pete Postlethwaite cheekbones and flowing white hair. "While I was letting this sink in, he added, 'Well, you know you're an orphan, your parents are dead, you've got no family, you might as well go.'"
Haig was one of 7,000 children from British care homes who were shipped mostly to Australia and Canada between the second world war and 1967. The scandal of the lies and abuse suffered by these child migrants was exposed thanks to the tireless work of Margaret Humphreys, a social worker from Nottingham, who, in 1987, took it upon herself to help them find their families. As Oranges and Sunshine, a moving new film by Jim Loach – son of Ken – shows, Humphreys defied death threats to discover the truth about these former child migrants and their past lives. When Haig begins to talk, it is eerie because his softly spoken words and manner exactly resemble those of Jack, a traumatised former child migrant in the film who is played by Hugo Weaving. The British-Australian actor met and talked to Haig about his experiences before taking the role.
Apart from the man in the suit talking of oranges and sunshine, Haig barely remembers anything of his childhood in Britain. "Because of my lack of memories, I may as well have been born in Australia when I was 11 years old," he says, bleakly. He was sure he had a sister called Marie, but he could not remember anything at all about his mother: no image, no voice, no smell. "Just a blank. An absolute blank."
Surrounded by other "orphaned" children, the voyage to Australia was an adventure ("we ran riot"). When Haig arrived, he was dispatched to a Church of England boarding school in Melbourne. Other child migrants were less fortunate, as Oranges and Sunshine reveals through the story of Len, played by David Wenham. Many ended up in the care of the notorious Christian Brothers where they were treated as slave labour and suffered horrific physical and sexual abuse. One victim told an official inquiry that his Christian Brother carers competed to become the first to rape him 100 times.
Haig escaped such trauma – he would be beaten with a strap if he did anything wrong – but, as he says: "The thing missing in an institution for children is that there is no love. You get punished but there is no one there to put their arm around you and say it's OK." One of many powerful scenes in Oranges and Sunshine is when the character based on Haig falteringly explains how he feels: "There's an emptiness in me. There always has been and I think the only thing that could fill it was her, my mother." Haig says something similar when he talks of how he married, had three children and established a successful signwriting business: "Anyone would've thought there's a fella who's got everything, but it was like I had a block of ice inside me. I felt empty. I knew I was missing something. I couldn't work out what it was. And there was this feeling – I didn't know who I was. I didn't know where I'd come from. I didn't belong to anybody. I was in this void."
In the 1960s, Haig sank into a deep depression. He was prescribed antidepressants, saved them up and swallowed them all. "I wanted to die. I wanted to go to sleep and not wake up to get rid of this pain, this emptiness," he says. His wife, normally a good sleeper, woke up and saved his life. He wishes he hadn't tried to take his life at home, while his children slept.
The "beautiful" younger sister he was always convinced he had eventually traced him through the Salvation Army. Marie had been separated from their mother and Haig, and raised in care homes in Britain; unlike Haig, she remembered her sibling. One day, in 1987, Marie told him she was coming to Australia with a social worker, Margaret Humphreys, who she wanted him to meet. Haig, by then divorced and wandering the Australian outback ("I don't know what I was looking for"), was unimpressed. "I'd seen a lot of social workers and I had no respect for any of them," he says.
While Oranges and Sunshine shows Humphreys struggling to win the trust of some child migrants, Haig quickly came to respect her. She was the first to raise the possibility that Haig had been told a terrible untruth – that he might not be an orphan after all. "I didn't think anyone would be so cruel to tell you that sort of a lie," he says. He is amazed by Emily Watson's performance as Humphreys in the film. "I could've been watching Margaret," he says.
Haig visited Britain for six months in 1989 to get to know Marie, who passed away 14 years ago, and to help Humphreys track down his mother. With so little record-keeping by the authorities, still in denial over the scale of the trauma they created, it took another few years for them to get confirmation that Haig had not been an orphan. His parents had separated during the war, and with two children, no benefits and no relatives nearby, his mother had been forced to give up her son and daughter.
Humphreys discovered Haig's mother had lived two miles from where he was kept in homes (eight institutions in 14 months before he was "deported" – as the former child migrants say – to Australia) and had died just a year before he first visited Britain. The belated release of more suppressed information 10 years ago also helped Humphreys, who was awarded a CBE this year, finally identify Haig's deceased father.
No photographs remain of his mother, and Haig will forever wonder why he was given up and whether his mother tried to find him. As Oranges and Sunshine shows, parents were often deceived by the authorities and told their children had been adopted or even that they were dead. "Mothers went to their graves never knowing that their children were still alive, and happy, and well," says Haig. "It's criminal. I don't know what worse you can do to people."
Why did this happen? For the British authorities, a one-way ticket to Australia was cheaper than looking after children in care homes. For the Australian government, petrified they would be overrun by Asian immigrants, white children were ideal fodder for the racist "White Australia" policy.
In 2009, the Australian prime minister Kevin Rudd apologised to child migrants. "It's a day we'll never forget," says Haig, who is secretary of the International Association of Former Child Migrants and their Families, and is still good friends with Humphreys. Gordon Brown followed with an apology on behalf of the British government a year later.
The trauma of all these state-sanctioned lies and abuse has left a long, scarring legacy. Haig is still estranged from his two daughters who felt deserted when his depression destroyed his marriage. "They think I abandoned them, and in many ways I did. I had trouble looking after myself," he says, anguish in his voice. He has since been reconciled with his son, and he hopes the film might yet bring him back together with his daughters.
"What Margaret did for me and for thousands of child migrants is to give us back our lives, give us back our identity, and shine a light in where there was just darkness." Where would he be without Humphreys? "I have my doubts about whether I'd be here alive," he says. "You should ask, where would all of us be?"
Recently saw one about the Dnepropetrovsk maniacs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dnepropetrovsk_maniacs) , was made last year by a well know chilean documentary program(Aquí En Vivo), actually I don't know how I missed it.
Not so harsh footage (this was for national television), but if anyone is interested and understand spanish, it's uploaded in 6 parts on youtube:
Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9UXzKLhx4Y
Quote from: XE on December 12, 2009, 10:23:17 PM
SICK: The Life & Death of Bob Flanagan, Supermasochist 1997
Finally watched this last week; interesting and entertaining, and since I had never read the Re-Search book on Flanagan, the documentary film filled in quite a lot of the blanks in my knowledge of his life and artistic career. Especially interesting was the DVD extra update on Sarah Doucette -- the young woman featured in the film, who meets Flanagan through the "Make a Wish Foundation". She has CF -- the same disease that afflicted Bob Flanagan. I'd almost like to know if she's still alive today (although, I guess I'm not actually curious enough to have looked her up as of now, when I write this).
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on December 13, 2009, 01:05:15 PMI think one good document about NOISE CULTURE is the dvd "PEOPLE WHO MAKE NOISE". I have seriously watched it twice. It is amazing documentary about certain moment in Portland (US) noise scene. In a way, you simply can worship the extreme goofiness of veterans like SMEGMA, but also I can tell, that if you happen to have any company whatsoever while watching this, simply prepare for stomach muscle aching bursts of laughter. It is not funny all the time, but it is, a lot of time.
There is good stuff there too, but most of all extremely funny. Mostly unintentionally.
"People Who Do Noise" finally worked its way up through my Netflix queue, and I just now finished watching it. The picture obviously would have been better if the filmmaker had widened out beyond Portland, Oregon, but it's understandable than an undoubtedly minisculely budgeted movie like this would have to choose one locale and stick with it.
I recognized maybe half of the artists featured, and I imagine perhaps half of everyone profiled has called it quits since the documentary was originally released. The film is mostly watchable, and mildly entertaining, but at the same time it also reaffirmed why I generally don't like full-on "noise": with rare exceptions, it tends to be the audio genre of last resort -- the lowest common denominator of post-industrial music, often for people who can't even manage the effort and equipment needed for "punk rock".
Nevertheless, the highlight for me was Daniel Menche -- both the performance that ends the official version of the film, and the DVD alternate ending. I first heard Menche in the mid 1990s, and since then I've slowly picked up a fraction of his seemingly vast discography. On the other hand, it's understandable that a venerable act like Smegma, who apparently are in Portland, would get a long segment devoted to their work, but after the first few minutes of their performance piece I just had to fast forward. They reminded me all-too-much of the kind of local, academic, often goofy avant-garde improv group based in the music department of the local branch of this state's public college.
The last real noise release I've acquired is "Selected Noise Works 93 - 94" by Monde Bruits. I had first seen a review of the disc in the mid 90s, and for some reason it had stuck in my mind, until I finally happened to spot the CD listed in an online mailorder's catalog earlier this year. The material is what I generally consider all-out noise, and while I doubt I'll end up listening to it much more than once a year, it's good to have such work for when I genuinely want to hear loud, chaotic noise music.
MY ENEMY'S ENEMY (2007).
I guess when nazi documentary gets nominations on film festivals, it may be better than the average flood of military & war documents flooded from every direction? This is one and half hour, focusing on life of Klaus Barbie. And not so much about the already infamous times as gestapo chief, blamed for orgy of Lyon, but more of his later days adventures as agent for various old enemy forces. CIA, British intelligence and more. And about his roles in various incidents in south america, perhaps the most notably the national socialist / cocaine revolution in Bolivia 1980. I guess it is relatively rare footage to come across. Even if you check out information about Barbie or Luis García Meza Tejada, normally placed like wikipedia have abundance of historical details, but there's very little. Document with old footage of revolution, where swastika flags displayed on walls, with perfect approval from the US, since they rather looked national socialism take over, than communism. But changed their mind, when whole thing lead into government lead cocaine trafficking.
There are clips of interviews of people involved. Old stuff, and new stuff. With footage of Bolivian club room decorated with nazi collectibles and the guy who laughing in interview about his habits to collect all the stuff.
One does wonder if there are PE bands who ever deal with so "classic" subject matter? Of course Genocide Organ has the "Klaus Barbie" track as well as "Patria Y Libertad", which most likely deals with Chile paramilitary fascist group prior to Pinochet's era, but now when I think of, the whole 80's team of of nazi leaders, italian terrorist and south american generals seems like unknown territory for bands who eternally will make vague references to KKK or "nazis"?
Document is amazingly neutral. It covers wide range of reference to high interesting subject matter, from Odessa group to dirty dealings of right wing vatican priests, high power french politicians as informants of Klaus, secret arms stashes of left behind troops. Offices of jewish nazihunters doing their investigations, interviews with politicians, ex-CIA, ex-police, various historians, activists and victims, both from the concentration camps, but also from mindblowing torture ideas designed by Klaus, practiced by south america powers. Not to mention the story of Che Guevara capture plan being supposedly masterminded by Klaus and his derogatory remarks about this leftist icon, how this dirty & unorganized hustler wouldn't have survived conditions of WWII.
Most people seem to agree he was no "monster". Just intelligent and committed person, using his talent in service of ideals, against the enemy. In court when he is finally convicted for life sentence in 1987, he has speech in the court, in french, explaining that he is not guilty. That any act done, is done legally at the time, in moment of war, against the enemy. And his defense argues that it is no difference from American troops dropping napalm into civilian villages in Vietnam or what Belgians did in Kongo or what French themselves been doing in Algeria. Every single country who takes part in these political processes, have used Klaus and his expertise for their own benefit for decades, yet he as individual stands alone in court. Answering for silly accusations of pretty minor cases, compared to the system that aims to judge him. I guess that main reason is that killing people in europe is so much more higher crime than the europeans and americans killing innocent orientals and negroes in masses? In interview Klaus does say that there are few things in life what he regrets, but nothing major and it belongs to his old life so long ago, its not worth to remember.
For being 2,99 euro at cult distributor Anttila shelves, I think pretty good purchase!
well regarding the nazi documentaries featured at film festival and with some "arty" approach I think the best two are some that definitely stand out:
- The Eichmann Trial, pure post industrial imagery, very very dense atmosphere, with some digital editing that I was unused to witness in documentaries. A must have.
- Struma - Fantastic documentay regarding a not very well known happening of WWII. A boat packed with Jews escaping from Romania after paying very expensive tickets and permissions to smugglers, sent toward Palestine to be bombed by British armies that didn't recognise the fake immigration papers. (http://history1900s.about.com/od/holocaust/a/struma.htm).
- Shoa - Claude Lanzmann's 9 hour documentaries. Many interviews.
- Nuit et brouillard - Alain Resnais - Definitely one of the best pieces on the subject, for the mix of sounds and visuals.
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on April 28, 2011, 10:23:00 AM
One does wonder if there are PE bands who ever deal with so "classic" subject matter?
To me this is less PE and much more of a traditional industrial subject which is why I personally favour industrial of PE in the end. I've learnt a few interesting and useful historical facts from various industrial projects whereas PE much less so.
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on April 28, 2011, 10:23:00 AM
In court when he is finally convicted for life sentence in 1987, he has speech in the court, in french, explaining that he is not guilty. That any act done, is done legally at the time, in moment of war, against the enemy. And his defense argues that it is no difference from American troops dropping napalm into civilian villages in Vietnam or what Belgians did in Kongo or what French themselves been doing in Algeria. Every single country who takes part in these political processes, have used Klaus and his expertise for their own benefit for decades, yet he as individual stands alone in court. Answering for silly accusations of pretty minor cases, compared to the system that aims to judge him. I guess that main reason is that killing people in europe is so much more higher crime than the europeans and americans killing innocent orientals and negroes in masses? In interview Klaus does say that there are few things in life what he regrets, but nothing major and it belongs to his old life so long ago, its not worth to remember.
I remember when he was caught and pending his trial his lawyer, an intellectual communist of Algerian descent with an air of typical French arrogance, said on the Swedish news "You don't let a bunch of whores judge a whore". The reporter asked him what he meant and he recounted and endless stream of French atrocities in Algeria and then saying "who gave these people the right to judge anyone?".
OK, guffaw of the day as I read through Wikipedia about Barbie:
Barbie is memorably referred to in the film Rat Race, when the Jewish Pear family stops at the "Barbie Museum", thinking it to be a museum of Barbie dolls. They arrive, shocked at its true subject and threatening staff of neo-nazis, who attempt to portray Klaus Barbie as a "loving husband, devoted father, wine connoisseur, and three-time ballroom dancing champion." Following their awkward departure, the Pear family finds their van destroyed and subsequently steals one of the museum's relics, Adolf Hitler's staff car.
Barbie's lawyer, Jacques Vergès, is a really interesting charachter. He went missing for number of years during the seventies only to appear in Hanoi/North Vietnam during the middle of the Vietnamn war. The alarm bells at the French secret service and CIA went into overdrive. He has been placed with both Pol Pot and Palestine terrorist during that period but nothing is confirmed.
I guess if there ever was a man deserving the titel the Devil's Advocate it is Vergés being both Carlos and Barbie's lawyer. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_Verg%C3%A8s
It's been a few years since I viewed it, but I remember the documentary about Jacques Vergès, "Terror's Advocate," as being a fascinating portrait of him.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1032854/
Trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAqhvkUr-8g
Probably a good time to give it another viewing...
Quote from: ironfistofthesun on February 28, 2011, 01:01:22 AM
jaw dropping every week
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HiUMlOz4UQ
been watching this documentaries on HD, wonderful!
AMERICAN PIMP (1999)
QuoteAmerican Pimp is a 1999 documentary that examines the pimp subculture in the United States. It was directed by the Hughes Brothers, the filmmakers behind Menace II Society and Dead Presidents.
The documentary consists of first person interviews of people involved in the pimping lifestyle. The interviews are separated by short clips from 1970's blaxploitation films such as Willie Dynamite, The Mack, and Dolemite.
The first portion of the documentary focuses on pimps working illegally. The illegal pimps that are interviewed are from all over the United States, e.g., Charm from Hawaii, Fillmore Slim from San Francisco, and Payroll from Las Vegas. These pimps, and many others discuss their theories on the history of prostitution. The pimps go on to talk about their philosophy on pimping, and how they live their daily life.
The film also discusses the legal sector of prostitution. Dennis Hof, the owner of the Bunny Ranch in Nevada, is interviewed. He feels that Nevada is much smarter than the other states because they have imposed the proper health and background checks on prostitution, instead of trying to suppress prostitution by making it illegal.
The majority of the documentary glorifies the pimping lifestyle. The pimps and prostitutes interviewed mainly discuss the perks of the lifestyle. They talk about the money they have made, and the expensive suits and cars they were able to buy; however, near the end of the film, the interviews involve prostitutes that have died from the lifestyle as well as pimps who have retired and hold straight jobs or those who are now in jail.
90 minutes of stuff, pretty good. And most of all funny as hell. Black pimp, is just about THE funniest looking character in world, and some of these fellows interviewed, keep it down to quite normal, while others are utter comedy. There are so many classic lines what they say, if don't get irritated by
"you know what I mean" -line bombarded like just about every 10 seconds. Best is the logic of the game, and the old players who feel insulted about some newcomers who offer 50/50 cut to whore. All these guys, it is 100% goes to pimp -attitude.
"If she makes 5000,- a night and gets caught, and I only got 2500 while bailing her out costs 5000, how could I do it? I need to get all the money!".
One of the guys explain, that if it would be up to whore, she'd be doing just little work and then spend all the money and when rent is due, she'd be in trouble again. Pimp just organizes. He gets whore work all day everyday, and all the money goes to pimp, since whores don't know what to do with the money. Pimp pays the bills. Rent, clothes, food. She doesn't need to think more. Just spread legs when told to do so. And several of the pimps explain, that this is the rule of the game. It can't be explained to outsider, who doesn't "get it". The relation ship of mac and the whore is beyond the reasoning.
There is good moment when the ex-pimp, now blue singer talks about history of american prostitution. Where it was never a problem when it was white men who pimped. Every saloon, every whorehouse visited by every man from every class. But when black men became pimps, and collect serious money, suddenly it all became utmost sin and shame. Only white "pimp", who doesn't associate himself being one, is the nevada whorehouse owner. In deed, he's not some street pimp smacking his bitches when they don't do what they're are told to, but legit businessman running respectable service.
some great recommendations in this topic, saw the klaus barbie documentary a couple of days ago, really good, I might give it another spin.
keep them coming!
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on May 02, 2011, 07:57:50 PM
AMERICAN PIMP (1999)
QuoteAmerican Pimp is a 1999 documentary that examines the pimp subculture in the United States. It was directed by the Hughes Brothers, the filmmakers behind Menace II Society and Dead Presidents.
The documentary consists of first person interviews of people involved in the pimping lifestyle. The interviews are separated by short clips from 1970's blaxploitation films such as Willie Dynamite, The Mack, and Dolemite.
The first portion of the documentary focuses on pimps working illegally. The illegal pimps that are interviewed are from all over the United States, e.g., Charm from Hawaii, Fillmore Slim from San Francisco, and Payroll from Las Vegas. These pimps, and many others discuss their theories on the history of prostitution. The pimps go on to talk about their philosophy on pimping, and how they live their daily life.
The film also discusses the legal sector of prostitution. Dennis Hof, the owner of the Bunny Ranch in Nevada, is interviewed. He feels that Nevada is much smarter than the other states because they have imposed the proper health and background checks on prostitution, instead of trying to suppress prostitution by making it illegal.
The majority of the documentary glorifies the pimping lifestyle. The pimps and prostitutes interviewed mainly discuss the perks of the lifestyle. They talk about the money they have made, and the expensive suits and cars they were able to buy; however, near the end of the film, the interviews involve prostitutes that have died from the lifestyle as well as pimps who have retired and hold straight jobs or those who are now in jail.
90 minutes of stuff, pretty good. And most of all funny as hell. Black pimp, is just about THE funniest looking character in world, and some of these fellows interviewed, keep it down to quite normal, while others are utter comedy. There are so many classic lines what they say, if don't get irritated by "you know what I mean" -line bombarded like just about every 10 seconds. Best is the logic of the game, and the old players who feel insulted about some newcomers who offer 50/50 cut to whore. All these guys, it is 100% goes to pimp -attitude. "If she makes 5000,- a night and gets caught, and I only got 2500 while bailing her out costs 5000, how could I do it? I need to get all the money!".
One of the guys explain, that if it would be up to whore, she'd be doing just little work and then spend all the money and when rent is due, she'd be in trouble again. Pimp just organizes. He gets whore work all day everyday, and all the money goes to pimp, since whores don't know what to do with the money. Pimp pays the bills. Rent, clothes, food. She doesn't need to think more. Just spread legs when told to do so. And several of the pimps explain, that this is the rule of the game. It can't be explained to outsider, who doesn't "get it". The relation ship of mac and the whore is beyond the reasoning.
There is good moment when the ex-pimp, now blue singer talks about history of american prostitution. Where it was never a problem when it was white men who pimped. Every saloon, every whorehouse visited by every man from every class. But when black men became pimps, and collect serious money, suddenly it all became utmost sin and shame. Only white "pimp", who doesn't associate himself being one, is the nevada whorehouse owner. In deed, he's not some street pimp smacking his bitches when they don't do what they're are told to, but legit businessman running respectable service.
get also Pimp Snooky
TV documentary about New Orleans pimp Snooky.
I have featured part of the interview in one track of the Memories CD.
Highlights:
- the pimp of the year competition
- the way he talks to whores on the streets
etc.
Quote from: tiny_tove on May 03, 2011, 10:04:51 AM
get also Pimp Snooky
think that one is called The True Life of Pimp Snooky and most of it is on youtube for those interested.
"Brother's Keeper"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brother's_Keeper_(film)
This documentary may hold a certain resonance for those raised, or still living in the rural United States.
Eternal Laughter: Hermann Nitsch 60. Painting Action, New York 2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thUUmPJP10Q&feature=player_embedded
An impromptu short documentary of Hermann Nitsch's first live painting action in the US at Mike Weiss Gallery, New York City.
Quote"The Immortals, how they lived in timeless space, enraptured, become metaphor, the crystalline eternity poured like ether around them, and, the cool, starlike, radiant serenity of this other-earthly world -- how was all this so familiar to me? I reflected, and snatches of Mozart's "Cassations," of Bach's "Well-Tempered Clavier" came to me, and it seemed to me that everywhere, this cool starry brightness shone, everywhere this ethereal clearness oscillated. Yes, that was it, this music was something like a chamber of frozen time, and above it there oscillated endlessly a superhuman serenity, an eternal, divine laughter." -Steppenwolf, Hermann Hesse
Quote from: davenpdx on April 28, 2011, 10:51:28 PM
It's been a few years since I viewed it, but I remember the documentary about Jacques Vergès, "Terror's Advocate," as being a fascinating portrait of him.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1032854/
Trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAqhvkUr-8g
Probably a good time to give it another viewing...
This came from TV month ago in Finland. And I missed it. But since it's released in Rakkautta & Anarkiaa -series on dvd, one can find it easily from rentals and often discount bins. Bought DVD for couple of euros and it was ok. I think they could have gotten so much more from this character than document delivered.
May be of interest to some people here... just saw this, found it to be okay, but it certainly could have gone into a lot more detail and explored other aspects of the tape scene. Rather amateurish in a not-so-great way, and barely scratches the surface, but on the other hand it may be viewed online for free, and there are a few interesting details. It may be worth watching if one starts out with low expectations...
Weird that there's a photo of RRRecords and RRRon gets mentioned in somebody else's interview, but he himself is not actually interviewed, especially because this documentary's producer is in Lowell, MA... I guess the idea may have been to limit the documentary to the scene around the K.O. City Studio "Grindstone" compilations in the late '80s, but debatably the documentary is worse for it.
Does anyone know of documentaries about the harsher end of the tape scene? This documentary is mainly about experimental electronic, improvised, and synth stuff, with some industrial as well.
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Grindstone Redux: The Story of the 1980's Underground Music Network.
http://www.snagfilms.com/films/title/grindstone_redux/
"This is the story of how the music business was transformed in the 1980s by like-minded musicians who decided to self-publish their work. They formed a 'network' before the internet or email made it commonplace."
Artists:
If Bwana
Don Campau
Cancerous Growth
Mental Anguish
Viktimized Karcass
Skoptzies
Jeff Central
Compound
Curious voltage
Data-Bank-A
Disism
Dominion
Randy Greif
Herd of the Ether Space
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Mark Lane
Parade of Sinners
Alien Planetscapes
Story of ANVIL.
So many had talked about this, and I was expecting something like legendary Kohu 63 tour document, which takes everything-goes-wrong band situations to pretty much lowest extremes.
It's amusing document, but most of all good document of people going stubbornly towards their vision. I don't necessarily admire their wish to be rock stars nor I care much for quite being so far from reality how things are. I mean, doing this in 1981, is so much different than doing it in 2005. Most of who have played in bands, even long "careers" experience some moments of doing all what is to be done, to see 10 people audience waiting, hah. And when you then if actually think "and then what? Lets make some new songs", it appeals to me. Utmost dedication to the approach you have had, and continue to pursuit this passion regardless of success that's never going to be there.
I guess now, after the document, band is back to be popular. But I rather value LP's like "Forged In Fire" in my shelves for being the real deal. And not just some joke purchases based of getting good laughs with the document. Title track of album is monolithic metal anthem, but you also see how it could never really break big time. But also, I must say it's good their new album appears to get SVP/Steamhammer deal for germany and 2011 tour appears to be booked. This type of metal, not really kids stuff. When you think of all the fags who did "comebacks" for sake of nostalgia of the audience, Anvil really is the real deal. Never broke up, never returned.
Watching VICE GUIDE TO TRAVEL: LIBERIA on youtube. Link is for part 3... Needless to say, you shouldn't go to Liberia, or Africa.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whgtaMNutck&NR=1
Watched the 2003 documentary "Who Killed Janet Chandler?" last night which was alright, I was hoping for more court footage. Going to watch "The Devil's Advocate" which is a documentary about Marc Dutroux. I hope it doesn't go into the conspiracy shit too much.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on June 22, 2011, 08:25:05 PM
Needless to say, you shouldn't go to Liberia, or Africa.
OK, so you saw something on Youtube that documented a tiny corner of Africa, and now you're dismissing a whole continent? This is the common misinformed sentiment about Africa being one nation, one homogenous culture, that just reeks of colonialism. I certainly wouldn't want to go to Liberia, or any other part of the world that is struck by civil war or armed conflict, but guess what ?... I traveled several times in Africa, visited many countries, and not only did I survive... I met incredible people, saw amazing sceneries, and broadened my horizons.
(Perhaps your snide remark was intended as irony? Then I missed it, and beg your pardon)
Yes, I'm dismissing every inch of Africa.
I watched an online docu on Dutroux a few months ago. It was basically a docu-drama that had some pretty sleazy moments & alot on the conspiracy theories. I don't think anyone should go to Belgium either.
Some of you might be interested by this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LImtYrdhZc&feature=player_embedded (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LImtYrdhZc&feature=player_embedded)
The history of Amebix, one of my favorite band.
I have a dvd-r of WE HAVE WAYS OF MAKING YOU TALK. I keep meaning to dig it out for sampling. It's good viewing!
See page 2 for brief discussion of that document.
Antifa: Chasseurs de Skins
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ac0q-4UT8Vs
2008 french docoment, mostly focusing on Red Warriors guys. Paris street gangs and birth of the old school antifa. Pretty intense folks on all sides.
these were really bad-ass.
check also Batskin's answer to the thing if you get the chance.
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/2453380/batskin_sur_les_pav_s/
Paris was really hot in those days.
My french is pretty bad. Could someone give some information what Batskin comments?
Actually no need. Found batskin's interview from greek rac tribute blog. Poorly translated with babelfish or something, but you get the general idea about his view.
"Skin for skin" (Job, 2.4).
By the way, does anyone recognise the hard electronic music sometimes used? Around 5.30 in the third part, for example.
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on August 22, 2011, 08:27:03 PM
Actually no need. Found batskin's interview from greek rac tribute blog. Poorly translated with babelfish or something, but you get the general idea about his view.
ah sorry. I didn't read your request. yes it gives an idea.
there are a couple of very nice documentaries about rac/ns scene back in the days. check Les Cranes rases, with extensive interview with Evil Skins singer and some aggro scenes. there is another one regarding Batskin in its most political days, showing him and friends around with pitbulls. I have seen something similar when I was 19 and in school trip to Paris and they looked quite threatening.
Batskin is now running a biker bar and is connected to a 1% MC (I could not recognise his patch), somebody said HA, but the colours look different.
He was dating porn star Tabatha Cash who used to sport an AWB tattoo on her tits.
He is still quite respected/feared.
My Best Fiend.
Herzog document about Kinski. Absolute essential. Good stories related to all the movies they did together.
Glömda platser (Suom. telkkarissa: Tyhjät pihat, autiot tehtaat)
Document with Jan Jörnmark, exploring the forgotten, decaying urban areas and industrial buildings. Amazing footage and background about years of swedish economic hypergrowth that resulted simply too much being build and at the same time change of economy and european industrial production and result is huge abandoned sites. No re-runs expected on TV anytime soon, according to YLE site, but related material can be found:
http://www.youtube.com/user/JanJornmarkOfficial
http://creativedestruction.se/?page_id=3975
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on August 28, 2011, 08:12:14 PMGlömda platser (Suom. telkkarissa: Tyhjät pihat, autiot tehtaat)
Document with Jan Jörnmark, exploring the forgotten, decaying urban areas and industrial buildings. Amazing footage and background about years of swedish economic hypergrowth that resulted simply too much being build and at the same time change of economy and european industrial production and result is huge abandoned sites. No re-runs expected on TV anytime soon, according to YLE site, but related material can be found:
http://www.youtube.com/user/JanJornmarkOfficial
http://creativedestruction.se/?page_id=3975
Worth mentioning is that he has also released two photobooks with this theme; "Övergivna Platser" and "Övergivna Platser 2" (translates to "Abandoned sites").
Features not only abandoned industrial sites, but also dilapidated tenement blocks and other places. Can be found at adlibris.com
Quote from: implicitruin on August 30, 2011, 07:07:57 AM
Worth mentioning is that he has also released two photobooks with this theme; "Övergivna Platser" and "Övergivna Platser 2" (translates to "Abandoned sites").
Features not only abandoned industrial sites, but also dilapidated tenement blocks and other places. Can be found at adlibris.com
I think there is several photos from Lyckholms Bryggerier, the place where Utmarken was located, in one of the books.
Hans-Joachim Klein: My Life as Terrorist (2005) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0841179/
Watched this one last night. Nice down to earth interviews with Klein, talks about the 1975 OPEC raid in Vienna, how/why he went into hiding, and why he turned himself in. He's now a free man and has been living in Normandy after France gave him amnesty. A worthwhile watch but you might want to familiarize yourself with RZ/PLO/PFLP matters of the early-mid 70s as it draws on some of that knowledge. Carlos (2010) is a recommended precursor to this one.
The Collectors by Fred Burns.
QuoteFifty percent of us collect something. In this film we meet some of the UK's most eccentric collectors. From collecting adjustable spanners to Commodore cassettes; from Bakelite to china dogs and from valuable old Irish photographs to bric-a-brac, which takes over the house, it seems there are a countless number of ways to collect. Do we do it for nostalgic reasons and the longing for holding on to yesterday, or is it for some kind of recognition of status within a sub-culture. This documentary throws us into the world of collecting where we seek the answers to these questions. We look into how collecting began and how it has changed over time and ask the all important question - 'why do we collect?'
· Full film: http://vimeo.com/30481262
· More info: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1859599
Someone linked to http://snd-rcv.tumblr.com/ over on Chronditic board. Docu about Scottish noise/experimental/avant scene split into two parts (approx 20mins each I think, without checking again?), mostly talking heads stuff. Gentle but interesting.
Quote from: Doom on October 14, 2011, 08:26:50 PM
The Collectors by Fred Burns.
QuoteFifty percent of us collect something. In this film we meet some of the UK's most eccentric collectors.
I've been always interested to know if there is book or document film about porn collectors. I don't want to hear about some old ladies collecting ivory phallic statues, but PORN collectors. And not about guy who has 100 vivid dvd's, but the real deal. I have yet to even meet anyone with extensive enough stash of xxx to call "collection". Or maybe couple, but their interest remained as collections of acts - specific video clip dubbed on VHS - basically obsessive mix-tapes, rather than collection of complete existing items.
I vaguely recall there was some old book about this, but never got it.
TV documentary about Finnish black metal (as far as I understand) - supposedly made by RIDE FOR REVENGE member(s). I recognize the guy in the dark...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWzlSeGR5bU
Does anyone know whether this will be available somehow with subtitles? Fun to watch either way I guess (at least I understand the curse words, which I guess is about half of the dialogue, haha!).
I think 2012 should be dvd with subtitles. Also as far as I know, the Finnish noise document should be as bonus features of that dvd. Directed by mr. Sami Kettunen as well.
This document will be at theaters during end of year and early 2012. There is planned double feature in Lahti Kino Iiris with noise & bm document together. We'll see if they manage to make a deal for it.
Also just now being released to theater round is Punk O Cine documentary with focus on current Finnish Punk. Can be seen in many cities, in smaller independent theaters. Also coming to Lahti Kino Iiris in December.
Watched a docu on amateur internet porn on Oprah's new tv channel. Nothing special; 50 year old woman doing webcam's for guys who like to call her "Mommy" & attractive Southern couple fucking every night to pay for their house/child & fat, white trash couple who fucked their relationship up over internet porn (it it hadn't been porn, it'd been something else). Next Sunday night, the same show will have a new episode on child-teen prostitution.
COLLECTORS by Julian P. Hobbs - a documentary about serial killer's murderabilia collectors, with some pretty and interesting interviews with fanatics, victims parents (who as usual mourn in eternal grief) and serial killers (Wayne Henley, the partner in crime of Dean Corll)
WHORES' GLORY by Micheal Glawogger-a documentary which focuses on whores lives in Mexico, Thailand and India, a nice movie for sure (in the vein of Grodecki's outputs, but with women), some hardcore sex is shown as well
Any one seen Meet the Fokkens?
Meet The Fokkens
NL 2011 | sex | 52', 70' | Gabriëlle Provaas, Rob Schröder
Louise and Martine Fokkens are identical twins. For over 40 years they were working as prostitutes. They freed themselves from the control of their pimps, ran their own brothel, and set up the first informal trade union for prostitutes. Now they bid their farewells. A portrait of these remarkable women, as well as a history of the Red Light District in Amsterdam over the past fifty years.
http://www.autlookfilms.com/en/films/meet-the-fokkens/
Thanks for the heads up. That looks quite interesting.
(http://www.autlookfilms.com/media/uploads/galleries/photos/318/PlakatNobodyA4_hi.jpg)
Eleven people are preparing to pose naked for a book of photos. They were born disabled, like the director himself, due to the disastrous side-effects of Thalidomide. These fascinating characters are working in areas as politics, the
media, sport, astrophysics or acting and have learned to live with their disability to an impressive level of "normality". Filmed with a darkly humorous touch and no
deference to political correctness
there's an other documentary with the same title (by the swiss film-director R. Sibillia), focusing on hard SM and radical body modification
http://www.vice.com/vice-meets/issei-sagawa-part-1 (http://www.vice.com/vice-meets/issei-sagawa-part-1)
http://www.vice.com/vice-meets/issei-sagawa-part-2 (http://www.vice.com/vice-meets/issei-sagawa-part-2)
great docu on the now 61 years old depressed issei sagawa talking about all his life at his own home.
Anyone knows whether this is worth cheking out?
We Don't Care About Music Anyway (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1508374/)
cave of forgotten dreams by the herz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZFP5HfJPTY
I liked it alot. might be a boring to someone not intrested in rockscriblings.
Married To The Eiffel Tower (http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PLCDD19C0B83DEEF3B&v=h93Q_RruQJY)
I have been suggested this: http://blackpowermixtape.com/index.php
Do see it. It is a good film. Göran had a field day plundering SVTs archive of footage from back in the day.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1755583566/cassette-a-documentary-film-about-the-cassette-tap?ref=email
on progress. Amusing to see Ride For Revenge tape being manufactured.
I really want to see this one. I could probably use some English subtitles though.
http://www.snowonthabluff.com/
http://youtu.be/-z5YtO1PNyY
"When Atlanta robber and crack dealer, Curtis Snow steals a video camera in a dope deal, he gives the camera to his best friend, Pancho, and they start documenting their lives. He sells drugs, he runs from the cops, all while trying to provide for his baby momma and two-year-old son. Through Curt's camera we get an unprecedented glimpse into life on the streets of the infamous West Atlanta neighborhood, known as Tha Bluff."
(http://i.imgur.com/PE8nI.jpg)
Subtitles so you can understand the ghetto slang?
Hell yeah. Do YOU understand what they're saying?
Just heard that it's not all documentary, and that bits of the film are staged. Definitely made me lose a lot of interest.
Quote from: theotherjohn on January 15, 2012, 04:36:12 AM
Not sure if it's been mentioned before but Vinyl (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120454/) (2000) is mandatory viewing for everyone on this forum. Don't let IMDB's tagline "Alan Zweig investigates the wacky world of record collecting" put you off - this is scathing, depressing documentary film making that reveals as much about your own habits as it does the subjects interviewed. Watch it to get a glimpse of your own future (or maybe even the present?) if you're not careful:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNRvB8lyRSM
God I hope I don't turn out like some of the people in this documentary. Thanks for the link though, very interesting film.
Vinyl ++
but also high fidelity was depressing haha
kidnapped for christ
bygot parents send gay kids to re-education camps
http://www.bonsai.tv/video/bonsai-tv/il-trailer-di-kidnapped-for-christ/
Black Tar Heroin:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4sku4_black-tar-heroin-part-1-4_lifestyle
"An extraordinary look at two years in the lives of five young heroin addicts, Black Tar Heroin offers a rare and intimate portrait of how heroin devastates young lives. The film chronicles the daily lives of Jake, Jessica, Tracey, Oreo and Alice, three young women and two young men, ages 18 to 25, as they face the ever-present perils of hard core drug addiction--crime, prostitution, rape, incarceration, AIDS, overdoses and death.
The film shows the brutality and degradation of the drug life, but also depicts the addicts' pain and raw yearning -- to get clean, to hold relationships together, to re-connect with their families, to get their lives back."
this is the video with junkies I have been using in my live sets in the past years.
the girl with the glasses is absolutely a disfunctional icon for me.
excellent doc.
HARDCORE- the documentary about Max Hardcore. You can watch it in its entirety here:
http://hcdocu.blogspot.com/
Quote from: RyanWreck on February 29, 2012, 07:55:52 AM
HARDCORE- the documentary about Max Hardcore. You can watch it in its entirety here:
http://hcdocu.blogspot.com/
Link isn't working right now. Is this the docu with the girl who's crying & he's 'consoling' her completely nude but in his cowboy hat?
Really appreciated the "Black Tar Heroin" documentary link--it's extremely well done.
I was wondering why Alice looked so familiar, but of course she made it to be a bit of a Portland icon with her modeling/adult dancing before moving to LA a couple of years ago...
http://www.pdxpipeline.com/2010/07/15/end-of-an-era-malice-is-leaving-portland-final-dates-sassys/
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on February 29, 2012, 10:58:52 PM
Quote from: RyanWreck on February 29, 2012, 07:55:52 AM
HARDCORE- the documentary about Max Hardcore. You can watch it in its entirety here:
http://hcdocu.blogspot.com/
Link isn't working right now. Is this the docu with the girl who's crying & he's 'consoling' her completely nude but in his cowboy hat?
Yes, that's the one.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on February 29, 2012, 10:58:52 PM
Quote from: RyanWreck on February 29, 2012, 07:55:52 AM
HARDCORE- the documentary about Max Hardcore. You can watch it in its entirety here:
http://hcdocu.blogspot.com/
Link isn't working right now. Is this the docu with the girl who's crying & he's 'consoling' her completely nude but in his cowboy hat?
Yea this is that one. Max is the fucking man. Not as cool as Khan or the cameraman from facialabuse but up there.
http://www.redbull.tv/The-Adrenaline-Series/The-Red-Bull-Rampage-Legacy
Docu about the beginnings of the greatest bike event on the face of the planet! Worth watching just for the gnarly crashes.
I've recently noticed a bunch of Herzog docs on youtube. I know it's not the greatest medium for taking in such films, but if you're having a hard time finding them, or don't have the money, it's an option.
The White Diamond - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUDNcm3A1NM
The Great Ecstasy of the Woodcaver Steiner - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liYnvIBLMBQ
A whole bunch more that I'm too lazy to post right now, just check it yourself. There are also some features as well, I've seen Signs of Life at least.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4MnpzG5Sqc
Watch this & you can help stop someone who is nowhere near where you're at...
Too bad Cut Hands wasn't asked to contribute the soundtrack.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on March 09, 2012, 11:14:29 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4MnpzG5Sqc
Watch this & you can help stop someone who is nowhere near where you're at...
Too bad Cut Hands wasn't asked to contribute the soundtrack.
Satirical British response to this ridiculous campaign which as far as I can tell is a very clever PR/psyops exercise preparing our populations for how we're gonna break the Chinese near-monopoly on African material exploitation (but maybe I'm just cynical): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20jppqEiqc0
Seems a proper docu about Kony & his activities would have been better rather than doing something the director intended to "go viral" as he said in a tv interview I saw last night. I guess this is the fault of instant social media. Got to keep it short & melodramatic to keep the attention of teenagers. Building schools, etc is great (US military has built schools in Iraq but no one over here noticed/cared) but just making someone's name known worldwide isn't going to make a mass killer turn himself in...
I saw a documentary about the LRA 10 or so years ago and have been pretty into him ever since. Can't remember what it was called but it was mostly just the kids talking.
There's this one, but it has a bunch of stupid people talking:
http://www.ugpulse.com/government/uganda-rising-the-canadian-film-about-northern-uganda/390/ug.aspx
I have an interview with him in an issue of Harper's somewhere where Kony denies that they abduct kids. The interviewer had spoken with kids outside of the compound who told their stories of being abducted etc. and when Kony is confronted with this he basically says that he trained the kids to say that to outsiders or something. I don't know, I can't find it, it's this article http://harpers.org/archive/2006/12/0081306.
I always loved these kids too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkebbEAAqWA
I've been following African politics for many years, Kony is obviously old old news, pretty much convinced that this is the opening shot in a new US/European campaign to grab African resources that the Chinese monopolise right now. Using a nauseatingly hypocritical human rights platform.
Obama sent Special Forces advance troops into Uganda six months ago, very quietly and barely reported.
Nick Davies' book 'Flat Earth News' is an excellent expose of the PR/propaganda/psyops that go into our daily news which now includes internet hits like this. Check out Invisble Children's partner organisations for obvious CIA links.
just rewatched Mark Hejnar's AFFLICTION. still find that one entertaining.
AMERICAN HARDCORE- the Bad Brains footage is great. Along with everything on Boston (too bad Kilslug/Groinoids isn't included). Always liked Boston esp Jerry's Kids LP & still would love to have a copy of "This is Boston, Not L.A.".
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on March 11, 2012, 07:49:01 PM
still would love to have a copy of "This is Boston, Not L.A.".
Mmm, classic comp! My friend bought it when it came out and made a tape copy for me, which I've kept to this day. Used to play it to death. The Gang Green tracks in particular are insane.
India... ugh. I've seen a docu about prostitution there but can't remember a title. Isn't India also known for bride burning? Someone I know got upset b/c she found a clip of Glenn Beck talking about how terrible India is. Seems like an awful place from everything I've seen about it & those whores certainly do not make it any more attractive.
"Whores' Glory"- that's a Sutcliffe Jugend song, right?
Watched a bunch of Bigfoot hunting shows on Animal Planet yesterday. The best thing was these hunter's deep, gutteral bigfoot calls- they'd be perfect to use in noise.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on March 13, 2012, 02:47:03 AM
Watched a bunch of Bigfoot hunting shows on Animal Planet yesterday. The best thing was these hunter's deep, gutteral bigfoot calls- they'd be perfect to use in noise.
Does anybody have specific recommendations on Bigfoot documentaries? Maybe something that is available online? Or some other cryptozoological creatures? Emphasis on the hunters and the phenomenon around the "monster".
Bigfoot documentaries
No clue. I'd think it'd be easy enough to find but majority will be crap. I assume you may want something more than just a few people wandering around the woods thinking ANY sound they hear might be evidence of a squatch? My new favorite term for anything iffy is "that's kind of squatchy".
There are plenty of Bigfoot research groups/organizations. Maybe check their sites.
I hate those "squatch" hunters as much as I hate ghost hunters. I believe in the latter but not in the former but they both suck equally and generally have a huge bias towards believing in these things so they tend to think everything they have, sounds, film, "psychic" impressions, etc. is evidence.
Watched Chickenhawk yesterday, haven't seen it in a few years. I think I recognize a few parts as being used as samples, possibly Taint or Grunt? The full film has been uploaded to Youtube for anyone interested: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2l5Mc28GbEE . The cover art looks fairly "Sotos-esque" to me...
(http://cdn101.iofferphoto.com/img3/item/380/390/688/chicken-hawk-men-who-love-boys-documentary-oop-72916.jpg)
The best thing about the ghost hunter shows are the locations they visit.
I remember Chickenhawk but I don't think I ever used anything from it but I could be wrong. Only think I remember is the guy talking about the teen he meets at a convenience store & is so sure the kid liked him.
Animal Planet has a show on Sunday nights called "Rattlesnake Republic" about snake hunters that are in my general area. I've seen a few of them in action at snakehandling shows.
Quote from: RyanWreck on February 29, 2012, 07:55:52 AM
HARDCORE- the documentary about Max Hardcore. You can watch it in its entirety here:
http://hcdocu.blogspot.com/
daddy issues make the best sluts
Has anyone seen The Ballad of Genesis and Lady Jaye? It's playing here next month and I'm wondering if I should go.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMBhwkJfIks
OI OI OI!
Been sitting sick at home just watching doc's all day. I don't know if any of these have been mentioned yet but I found them to be good, some better than others, and they seem to fit in with some of the sub-cultures, ideas/concepts, authors, movements, etc. that we talk about here so check 'em out (links to the full movies included after description):
SYNTH BRITANNIA
"Documentary on the history of the synthesizer in the UK from Wendy Carlos through Cabaret Voltaire to the synth pop mainstream."
Duration: 1:28:13
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69Wjc6QYuKI
Aghori Babas: Living With The Dead
"Documentary on the Aghori sect from India who worship Lord Shiva and believe in the unity of all existence. For them since all distinctions of opposites are illusory their practices include what is commonly considered taboo like the eating of human flesh."
Duration: 48:29
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5WqwgZvLuo
WHAT THE FUTURE SOUNDED LIKE
"Brilliant documentary about the birth of electronic music in Britain. "
Duration: 26:13
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KkW8Ul7Q1I
PRANKS
Video companion to RE/Search's Pranks! book featuring interviews with Joe Coleman, Boyd Rice, LaVey, Karen Finley and others. 1988.
Duration: 30:00
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_Lque8-ASXM#!
The Power Of The Witch
"An extremely rare documentary about Witchcraft aired once in the UK in 1971. Featuring contributions from Eleanor Bone, Cecil Williamson, Alex & Maxine Sanders, Doreen Valiente et al."
Duration: 50:00
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JVbnIhDCv0&feature=player_embedded
Skinhead Farewell
"Documentary about British youth subculture pulp writer Richard Allen and his fellow New English Library authors of the 70s. 1996."
Duration: 49:59
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=32HQ32qd9S4#!
'The Winged Beatle' - bizarre and entertaining Beatles conspiracy theory with lots of insane clips of records played backwards. From what I can make out there is some evidence suggesting that the filmmaker 'iamaphoney' is in fact Paul McCartney himself or someone connected with him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsPCQ932vlU
not a documentary, but I think somebody should do it
http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/babes-of-the-bnp
Watched a National Geographic show about the wonderfully venomous spiders & snakes in Australia. I like anything about snakes/spiders & Australia is interesting because it's still almost like the wild west. A huge place that's barely inhabited.
Quote from: tiny_tove on April 03, 2012, 05:17:50 PM
not a documentary, but I think somebody should do it
http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/babes-of-the-bnp
Some real gems in those interviews. The follow-up was really funny, as well.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on April 03, 2012, 10:49:33 PM
Watched a National Geographic show about the wonderfully venomous spiders & snakes in Australia. I like anything about snakes/spiders & Australia is interesting because it's still almost like the wild west. A huge place that's barely inhabited.
a place where everything that moves is poisonous
Quote from: tiny_tove on April 04, 2012, 11:12:59 AMa place where everything that moves is poisonous
A buddy of mine went there for a year travelling, the only job he could find at the time was with a company who were swapping out old timber stilts in houses and replacing them with metal...his job was to go underneath the house in a full body boiler suit and headgear and swat anything that moved when they busted out the stilts...good money too he said...i wonder why ha ha :)
Just watched City/Ruin which I am sure has been mentioned in this thread. It was far better than that People Who Do Noise joke. For those who haven't watched it, full and free stream here:
http://archive.org/details/CITYRUIN_761
Quote from: tiny_tove on April 04, 2012, 11:12:59 AM
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on April 03, 2012, 10:49:33 PM
Watched a National Geographic show about the wonderfully venomous spiders & snakes in Australia. I like anything about snakes/spiders & Australia is interesting because it's still almost like the wild west. A huge place that's barely inhabited.
a place where everything that moves is poisonous
If you believe
Cracked (http://www.cracked.com/funny-163-australia/).
very nice doc about Kenyan girl opposing genital mutilation
http://www.guardian.co.uk/global-development/video/2011/apr/18/female-genital-mutilation-video
VH1 is running a docu about HipHop & the Rodney King riots. Snoop Dog narrates. Lots of good footage & an interview with one of the men that beat the truck driver half to death- he put his foot on the trucker's throat while another stomped & beat with a cinderblock. He's asked if he feels any regrets about what he did which results in a lot of stammering. SOunds like he wants to say "No" but knows the camera is in his face. There's interviews & footage of members of N.W.A. talking about the songs they made about the riots & "Fuck the Police". No one brings up that alot of those people are now actors who play cops & are multi-millionaires who live far, far away.
Some of the best footage is the Korean shop owners who fought back, getting into gunfights- there's footage of them shooting but oddly enough, no footage of who was shooting at them. Edited out or the original cameraman just neglected to film in the other direction?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7-TTWgiYL4&feature=related
"Shut Up Little Man!"
Excellent documentary on audio verite tapes which were big in the 90s of drunk neighbours arguing. I heard this stuff maybe '93 from a Bananafish reading friend, Sotos wrote about it in Parasite around that time too. First half of documentary is all as funny as the tapes and recaps it all brilliantly for anyone unaware of them, second half shifts into ethical and moral considerations about exploitation. Eddie Lee Sausage seems a repugnant human being as do all the Hollywood people and Raymond, Peter and Tony come out of the film with extraordinary dignity compared to them. Very thought-provoking, highly recommended. Queers are not human. I am the human race. You crucified the dinner.
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The description is very misleading! I sat down really looking forward to watching something interesting which is why it annoyed me so much. I will have a look through the site soon though, hopefully find some good documentaries.
Re-watching the 2005 documentary Gay Sex In The 70's by Joseph Lovett. I placed it in the wrong thread last time I watched it so I'll just comment in here about it as well. Some decent to good archival footage from gloryholes, dark rooms and bath house's which is pretty much what the movie is focused on; anonymous sex that eventually became almost obsolete with the emergence of the bug. Some old footage of these dives and discos, as well as interviews, and a decent amount on the Stonewall Riots of 1969.
I think it was Tiny Tove who said, he either did or is going to, sample this? Which album is it on, or going to be on?
wertham - alpha male, in the works for some years...
Quote from: tiny_tove on May 22, 2012, 10:22:54 AM
wertham - alpha male, in the works for some years...
How is it going to be made up? Is it interviews with yourself? Voice over on top of film? Or collection of live footage?
No personal this time.
Plenty of violent sounds, with explicit lyrics and several samples.
I would like to release it as a vinyl. All ideas were collected during in early 2000s, when I was closely collaborating with Northgate and other Italian gentlemen who were/are heavily involved in the leather/bear community. In thjose days I have been asked to get deeper in the subject to contribute with some artwork on the subject (some was published on an article of mr. Unheard for notorious erotic art magazine BLUE. http://www.coniglioeditore.it/catalogo/fumetto-adulti/blue), and I helped the SPATTER rec. to release the "Songs from the darkroom" compilation.
During those days I have collected hours of samples/images from several sources, both directly from "sources" and plenty of documentaries, etc.
The tracks themselves are ready, I need to record vocals and select from the many samples I have.
I sort of lost interest in the subject due to other obsessions, but recently reconsidered to focus on that after discovering Mario Mieli's work... Although his transexual oriented stuff is aestetically the opposite of the extreme preadatory/macho oriented concept I was working on.
Time shall tell...
That sounds like something I would really be interested in. I hope it takes shape sooner than later.
It is definitely something I would like to focus on once finished the forthcoming C031 and wertham tapes.
The Noise of Cairo - sorry for the Italian article - http://tv.wired.it/news/2012/05/23/the-noise-of-cairo-l-arte-che-ha-scatenato-la-rivoluzione-in-egitto.html?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=marketing&utm_content=
Watched a docu last night about a 20 ft, 2000 pound salt water crocodile:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjMJDcZhNoU
The hour long docu was on Animal Planet & is entitled "Man Eating Super Croc". The caught croc isn't the maneater but they have some good evidence that there's an even larger croc still out there.
Not a docu but totally fucking AWESOME:
http://www.pinkbike.com/news/Sessions-2-At-Home-James-Doerfling-2012.html
esp the final scene
21st CENTURY SEX SLAVES- National Geographic docu about Ubekistan woman being used in sex rings in Bangkok. Seems the producers thought the women were so hard on the eyes, they blurred all their faces out. I wasn't aware that BBK is full of non-Thai women; lots of eastern European women. Streets n' bars packed so full, it'd must be difficult for a hardworking woman not to drop her prices down to rock-bottom due to the competition.
Watched a bunch of shows about venomous snakes last week including a couple with Henry Rollins who seems to have experience handling & owning snakes. Title of the shows were "Animal Underworld" (2 of them) & "Snake Underworld" which featured a man who injected himself with black mamba venom. They were on NatGeo Wild.
Quote from: Si Clark on June 06, 2012, 12:37:59 PMand one guy who somehow manages to get his trafficked daughter back.
Liam Neeson?
Last week's Panorama about racism at the forthcoming Euro 2012 event on Poland/Ukraine was quite good, albeit as is always typical of Panorama the 30min run time offers little more than a scratch at the surface.
I wanted to post about it.
There are a couple of quite aggressive scenes of terraces violence against cops and Indian students...
That cunt Nick Lowes is also interviewed.
See you at the obituary. 1995 documentary on Serbian mobsters.very intense.
sorry fo the long address
http://a.blip.tv/scripts/flash/stratos.swf#file=http%3A%2F%2Fblip.tv%2Frss%2Fflash%2F2344444&showplayerpath=http%3A%2F%2Fa.blip.tv%2Fscripts%2Fflash%2Fstratos.swf&feedurl=http%3A%2F%2Fb92.blip.tv%2Frss%2Fflash&brandname=blip.tv&brandlink=http%3A%2F%2Fblip.tv%2F%3Futm_source%3Dbrandlink&enablejs=true&backcolor=0xF1F9FD&referrer=http%253A%252F%252Fen.wikipedia.org%252Fwiki%252FVidimo_se_u_%2525C4%25258Ditulji&source=3
Watched that with the Hoga Nord LP as the soundtrack. Perfect combo. Thanks for the link!
Saw "Something From Nothing: The Art of Rap" last Friday with my girlfriend. It was slightly disappointing but overall enjoyable. Ice-T spends the film going from MC to MC; first in NYC and its boroughs, then Detroit, then LA. The interviews with each MC open with a freestyle, then a few quick questions, then sometimes more freestyle. Technique, style, voice projection/timbre are all discussed but lyrics and beats, much less so. It really focuses exclusively on the rapping element. It was interesting to see so many freestyles back to back of so many Golden Era MCs, most of which totally out-classed the newer rappers interviewed. And I lover hear classic 80's hip hop in the interludes. Not for everyone but worth watching once if you're into hip-hop, especially classic NYC hip-hop.
Los Angeles Plays Itself (2003).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-DWcJLrSuU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-DWcJLrSuU)
Marcel Duchamp: A Game of Chess (1963).
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/292690_10150871534126587_22102963_n.jpg)
http://www.ubu.com/film/duchamp_chess.html (http://www.ubu.com/film/duchamp_chess.html)
Recommend Ubuweb highly. Stream and download new and rare material from various artists, musicians, writers, plus.
Diverse and interesting blog for documentaries.
http://cinematrices.wordpress.com/category/type/documentary/page/3/ (http://cinematrices.wordpress.com/category/type/documentary/page/3/)
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-CZbrOD1eS2c/TYjrsoImD8I/AAAAAAAABgk/Dp_JozR35xs/s320/rip.jpg)
Joe Coleman - R.I.P. - Rest in Pieces: A Portrait of Joe Coleman (1997).
http://www.ubu.com/film/coleman_rip.html (http://www.ubu.com/film/coleman_rip.html)
Waco: The Rules of Engagement.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmOBNnz9Wms (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmOBNnz9Wms)
Durch die Nacht mit Michel Houellebecq & Calixto Bieito.
Houellebecq should need no further introduction. Experience him as his unsympathetic (?) self, as he - quietly - unbalance a wellmannered Bieito. @
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ed7aQzBOSQ&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ed7aQzBOSQ&feature=related)
Quote from: online prowler on June 20, 2012, 11:19:21 PM
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-CZbrOD1eS2c/TYjrsoImD8I/AAAAAAAABgk/Dp_JozR35xs/s320/rip.jpg)
Joe Coleman - R.I.P. - Rest in Pieces: A Portrait of Joe Coleman (1997).
http://www.ubu.com/film/coleman_rip.html (http://www.ubu.com/film/coleman_rip.html)
Somehow I didn't even know about this, thanks.
Girl Model (2011)
Quote
Despite a lack of obvious similarities between Siberia and Tokyo, a thriving model industry connects these distant regions. Girl Model follows two protagonists involved in this industry: Ashley, a deeply ambivalent model scout who scours the Siberian countryside looking for fresh faces to send to the Japanese market, and one of her discoveries, Nadya, a thirteen year-old plucked from the Siberian contryside and dropped into the centre of Tokyo with promises of a profitable career. After Ashley's initial discovery of Nadya, the two rarely meet again, but their stories are inextricably bound. As Nadya's optimism about rescuing her family from their financial difficulties grows, her dreams contrast against Ashley's more jaded outlook about the industry's corrosive influence.
Girl Model is a lyrical exploration of a world defined by glass surfaces and camera lenses, reflecting back differing versions of reality to the young women caught in their scope. As we enter further into this world, it more and more resembles a hall of mirrors, where appearances can't be trusted, perception become distorted, and there is no clear way out. Will Nadya, and the other girls like her, be able to find anyone to help them navigate this maze, or will they follow a path like Ashley's, having learned the tricks of the labyrinth but unable to escape its lure?
http://tracker.zaerc.com/torrents-details.php?id=15583
Does anyone know where to find a full copy of Tearoom from 1962? I know that it was once uploaded to Megaupload and Mediafire and a torrent (no seeds) so it is out there I just don't know where.
For those who don't know what the film is it was basically a compilation of "footage shot by the police in the course of a crackdown on public sex in the American Midwest. In the summer of 1962, the Mansfield, Ohio Police Department photographed men in a restroom under the main square of the city. The cameramen hid in a closet and watched the clandestine activities through a two-way mirror. The film they shot was used in court as evidence against the defendants, all of whom were found guilty of sodomy, which at that time carried a mandatory minimum sentence of one year in the state penitentiary. The original surveillance footage shot by the police came into the possession of director William E. Jones while he was researching this case for a documentary project. "
Here is a small 8 minute piece from it (the japs can get away with putting anything on Youtube):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FebkXNOoTa8
Always liked Joe Coleman. I use to correspond with him. He'd write back on postcards of his paintings. He had terrible handwriting & turned me onto a true crime book dealer who sold me "The Sexual Criminal". I have the Cosmic Retribution book. Doing a quick search, doesn't look like he's super active. Seems like there would be a recent book of paintings or something. I like that photo of him in the Re/Search "Pranks" book where you can see his bookshelf.
That video excerpt of "Tearoom" is excellant. Everyone seems so disinterested in what they're doing. A special edition blu-ray would be nice...
Girl model - despair and consequence. Looks great Yog. Tearoom I haven't heard of previously. Thanx Ryan for the mention. Fun Coleman story BiteWerks, enjoyed the book title he recommended to you.
Titicut Follies (1967)
by Frederick Wiseman.
(http://bigscreenboston.typepad.com/my_weblog/images/2008/04/10/titicutf.jpg) (http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Vtt7hsjvUME/SKpv0Da4aGI/AAAAAAAAAFk/ErkkinoAA9E/s400/titicut+follies+PDVD_011.jpg)
US documentary about patient-inmates of Bridgewater State Hospital for the criminally insane. Massachusetts, US. Beholds both the view of the system, and the array-spectral-logic of the inmates. Within the strict sphere these inmates wobble, the moments of anarchy and bizarre abruptions are pure poetry. Quite an interesting insight (of some sort) on how people whom had psychological diagnosis where looked upon, treated and understood earlier; in a person-to-person relationship as well as in the context of society. Raw, crude, sympathetic .. fill in the blanks yrself peepers.
Full movie on yucktube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JC33HqwJMnM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JC33HqwJMnM)
Yea unfortunately I am not a member of that place. Would definitely appreciate you putting it on dropbox if you have the time.
Over your cities grass will grow
documentary by Sophie Fiennes on the German artist Anslem Kiefer.
(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSgYtfddMXEopaAyjN3Dtvq22CU_S2sTpdbFuc4s9JidQpzR05K6JKHE_WA7A)
http://overyourcities.com/ (http://overyourcities.com/)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pbbfXAONmQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pbbfXAONmQ)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7xMMNDB2CE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7xMMNDB2CE)
Haven't come around to seeing this yet, but it is on top of my list. Kiefer's works have been a long time fav. Enjoy the trailer.
Quote from: theotherjohn on June 26, 2012, 02:22:48 AM
Quote from: RyanWreck on June 25, 2012, 10:55:35 PM
Does anyone know where to find a full copy of Tearoom from 1962? I know that it was once uploaded to Megaupload and Mediafire and a torrent (no seeds) so it is out there I just don't know where.
For those who don't know what the film is it was basically a compilation of "footage shot by the police in the course of a crackdown on public sex in the American Midwest. In the summer of 1962, the Mansfield, Ohio Police Department photographed men in a restroom under the main square of the city. The cameramen hid in a closet and watched the clandestine activities through a two-way mirror. The film they shot was used in court as evidence against the defendants, all of whom were found guilty of sodomy, which at that time carried a mandatory minimum sentence of one year in the state penitentiary. The original surveillance footage shot by the police came into the possession of director William E. Jones while he was researching this case for a documentary project. "
Here is a small 8 minute piece from it (the japs can get away with putting anything on Youtube):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FebkXNOoTa8
There's a torrent of it on the private tracker Karagarga with seeders. Unless someone else does it before me, I'll try and download it and stick it on Dropbox for you sometime soon (or if the file's identical then I'll reseed it on an existing public torrent).
PLEASE DO!
L'enfer d'Henri-Georges Clouzot (2009).
Documentary about French director Clouzot's unrealized film project L'Enfer. Highly recommended. Contains film footage from actual film, visual experiments, screen tests and interviews.
(http://www.lekinorama.com/photos_dvd/big-200_3_L-Enfer-d-Henri-Georges-Clouzot.jpg)
Romy Schneider..
..screen tests and visual experiments:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZ38CcJ-2vw&feature=related (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZ38CcJ-2vw&feature=related)
theotherjohn :
I would like to get a link for "tearoom" as well if that is possible. also the link for those british TV episodes on paedophilia is not working.
Quote from: narcolepsia on June 29, 2012, 12:06:03 AM
theotherjohn :
also the link for those british TV episodes on paedophilia is not working.
Just register here thebox.bz and then search for it once you're signed in.
Thanx for the Girl Model pitch. Just checked it out. Lacks a bit of weight and didn't particular like the undercurrent mindset the filmmaker tried to establish in the viewer. A bit moralistic at times, but I presume this was done as method in distancing the production from the model industry and have a humane storyline to it. Something edible and for viewers and film festivals. Found the hopes and experiences, as well as the contradictory contours of the characters the most interesting. Especially the model scout Ashely opposed to the sunrise-innosence Nadya. Good dynamics. Worth a watch, check it out.
Nadya of Switch Models:
(http://clclt.com/binary/e884/1334991074-18-nadya_casting2_web.jpg)
http://www.switchmodels.co.jp/town/nadya.html# (http://www.switchmodels.co.jp/town/nadya.html#)
Scarlet Road: A Sex Worker's Journey (2011)
(http://www.sbs.com.au/documentary/resize/index/id/4803/w/640/h/360)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkkKNJqoyp4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkkKNJqoyp4)
Australian sex worker Rachel Wotton's clients have disabilities ...
Werner Herzog - On Death Row (2012)
Tv series. Episode 1: Portrait Hank Skinner.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAqRCXm5npc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAqRCXm5npc)
Found this recently. Could be interesting. Since I haven't seen it yet, I can't vouch for the series. Nevertheless, I think it holds a certain regard- even though one might have to see between the fingers on the production.
Putin, Russia and the West (2012).
Vladimir Putin, after eight years as President of Russia and four more as Prime Minister, is stubbornly holding onto power. He has announced his intention to return as President and declared his United Russia party the winner in parliamentary elections that have widely been seen as fraudulent, causing mass protests in Moscow and elsewhere with tens of thousands of people taking to the streets.
By Paul Mitchell and Wanda Koscia.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ch_yJYola90 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ch_yJYola90)
http://www.theage.com.au/tv/Documentary/Hoon-Capital-4262604.html (http://www.theage.com.au/tv/Documentary/Hoon-Capital-4262604.html)
Aussie working class hoon culture - cars, burn-outs, night wars, Molotov cocktails and burning toilet rolls, massive beer consumption, and what happens when you try to police it.
This looks like it will be pretty interesting:
http://areallmenpedophiles.com/
Quote from: online prowler on July 06, 2012, 07:33:51 PM
Werner Herzog - On Death Row (2012)
Tv series. Episode 1: Portrait Hank Skinner.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAqRCXm5npc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAqRCXm5npc)
Found this recently. Could be interesting. Since I haven't seen it yet, I can't vouch for the series. Nevertheless, I think it holds a certain regard- even though one might have to see between the fingers on the production.
Thanks for this. Been waiting to see it for a while. I liked the film better, the subjects deserve the longer running time, but this guy was kind of funny. I wish Herzog would have given him more time to talk about his Templar conspiracies. Hopefully the other parts are up to.
Also, I like when he brought up Werner Herzog Eats His Shoe.
EDIT: They're there.
Does anyone watch Taboo on NatGeo? I was watching the "Teen Sex" episode and my mind and body were a bit confused and at odds with each other during the scene where the 17 year old girl was walking around posing...
(http://images.nationalgeographic.com/wpf/media-live/photos/000/534/cache/strike-a-pose1_53498_600x450.jpg)
And the "Blood Sport" episode was bad ass. The Africans fighting with double-sided tape rolled in broken glass and the riot type thing that these villages do where they pretty much just to to town, meet up, get drunk and beat the shit out of the other towns and people usually die, something like at least 1 person a year. It was getting crazy enough where the local police force and military had to step in to referee the fighting.
You sick pedo, lol.
"Of course I want to have sex with underage girls, doesn't everyone? I mean that's why there's a law. If no one wanted to do it there wouldn't be a law!"
I've tried watching Taboo before, but everything natgeo puts out now is so over exaggerated and sensationalist i can't take them seriously.
Yea, it's a pretty crappy show now, the older episodes were way better. Although the new episode with the guy who had Narcolepsy and the 3 men with tourettes driving around in an RV yelling "Gastric Band!" and "You fucking Cow!" to fat women, or doing up his 4 year old sons shoes repeating "hey, hey you're gay" over and over was great.
Have you seen BBC's Teenage Tourettes Camp? It's awesome.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGus-GgmXD0
BAG!
Oh yea I watched that awhile ago but totally forgot the name of it, thanks for reminded me.
Have you seen this one? "Nuuuuuuutttsss." "Jesus was a NIGGer..honestly!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1K1Mj9qk-s&
This one is pretty funny to... "Chopper dyed his pubes GINGER!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FleGU-W9vFo
I saw most of the "teen sex" episode. I lost interest when they started on the prego. I guess I haven't seen the "Blood Sport" episode. I think it was another episode of Taboo with the serial killer seller/collector & the Oklahoma company who cleans human & animal bones. The episode for this coming SUnday looks good- some guy who collects bones, skeletons. I tend to flip back n' forth between Taboo & whatever else; it rarely has a full hour worth watching.
Seeking Asian Female (2012)
(http://www.cpb.org/annualreports/2010/cache/com_zoo/images/SeekingAsianFemale_Wedding_252297ea21266a70daa4d0dd4546b71e.jpg)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kbGrQe17cU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kbGrQe17cU)
http://www.seekingasianfemale.com/ (http://www.seekingasianfemale.com/)
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on July 07, 2012, 05:52:30 AM
http://www.theage.com.au/tv/Documentary/Hoon-Capital-4262604.html (http://www.theage.com.au/tv/Documentary/Hoon-Capital-4262604.html)
Aussie working class hoon culture - cars, burn-outs, night wars, Molotov cocktails and burning toilet rolls, massive beer consumption, and what happens when you try to police it.
Apparently not available to watch in GB. Shame, sounds interesting enough.
Can't find that Blood Sport either.
Russian Anti-Racist Skinheads
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R06SJKnNKqY&feature=fvwrel
Paris is Burning (US 1990)
Director: Jennie Livingston
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/c9/PIB.jpg/220px-PIB.jpg)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWuzfIeTFAQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWuzfIeTFAQ)
Extravagant, interesting and down to earth (??) look into Ball culture as well as the gay and transgender movement in late 80s New York. Not quite in the realm of the forum, but interesting to see the undercurrent parallels as a self-governing movement outside the frame of society- as one can understand noise culture. Anyways, damn good and damn fun.
I believe this should be interesting from various points of view:
Samsara - teaser (http://vimeo.com/40974947)
QuoteExpanding on the themes they developed in BARAKA (1992) and CHRONOS (1985), SAMSARA explores the wonders of our world from the mundane to the miraculous, looking into the unfathomable reaches of man's spirituality and the human experience. Neither a traditional documentary nor a travelogue, SAMSARA takes the form of a nonverbal, guided meditation. Through powerful images, the film illuminates the links between humanity and the rest of nature, showing how our life cycle mirrors the rhythm of the planet.
http://www.barakasamsara.com (http://www.barakasamsara.com)
Last Days Here
http://www.zdf.de/ZDFmediathek/beitrag/video/1699362/Last-Days-here?setTime=20.568#/beitrag/video/1699362/Last-Days-here (http://www.zdf.de/ZDFmediathek/beitrag/video/1699362/Last-Days-here?setTime=20.568#/beitrag/video/1699362/Last-Days-here)
Dafilms
online documentary streaming site
(http://dafilms.com/media/thumbnails/gallery/2012/06/25/123127_jpg_700x394_q85.jpg)
http://dafilms.com/film/8202-il-se-peut-que-la-beaute-ait-renforce-notre-resolution-masao-adachi/ (http://dafilms.com/film/8202-il-se-peut-que-la-beaute-ait-renforce-notre-resolution-masao-adachi/)
Has anyone seen this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICWQ6AGWb_M
"Guns and Weed: The Road to Freedom"; I saw the dvd at a local rental store.
Watched parts 1-3; the 3rd part has guns. Will check out the rest later.
Quote from: ghoulson on August 08, 2012, 12:26:15 PM
Last Days Here
http://www.zdf.de/ZDFmediathek/beitrag/video/1699362/Last-Days-here?setTime=20.568#/beitrag/video/1699362/Last-Days-here (http://www.zdf.de/ZDFmediathek/beitrag/video/1699362/Last-Days-here?setTime=20.568#/beitrag/video/1699362/Last-Days-here)
devastating...
one of the saddest things I have ever seen...
Junkopia (http://www.ubu.com/film/marker_junkopia.html) - junk sculpture and great soundtrack too.
Quote from: Peterson on August 09, 2012, 10:29:37 PM
Quote from: tiny_tove on August 09, 2012, 09:33:38 AM
Quote from: ghoulson on August 08, 2012, 12:26:15 PM
Last Days Here
http://www.zdf.de/ZDFmediathek/beitrag/video/1699362/Last-Days-here?setTime=20.568#/beitrag/video/1699362/Last-Days-here (http://www.zdf.de/ZDFmediathek/beitrag/video/1699362/Last-Days-here?setTime=20.568#/beitrag/video/1699362/Last-Days-here)
devastating...
one of the saddest things I have ever seen...
Holy Christ on a cracker, I have got to watch that. If anyone here has not seen the "You're Gonna Miss Me" doc. about Roky Erickson, they sure as hell should. Best ex-rocker doc. I've seen, so far.
Did I miss something? I went to the link and it's just a video of some German text...
Quote from: THE SKIN on July 31, 2012, 03:05:31 AM
Russian Anti-Racist Skinheads
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R06SJKnNKqY&feature=fvwrel
As much as I hate anti-fascist movements and the left in general, I have to give those guys some respect, they are some tough motherfuckers. I'm sure everyone here knows how extremely violent some of those Russian Skinheads are. Someone mentioned it before; if you're actively AntiFa or SHARP in Russia then you have some huge balls.
SHARK WEEK'S IMPOSSIBLE SHOT & AIR JAWS APOCALYPSE has some incredible super slo-mo, hd footage of breaching in the waters of Seal Island. I.Shot is the cameracrew trying to get a vertical shot of a breach. Pretty fucking cool.
http://www.occupyunmasked.com/
This looks like it'll be fun!
The Gates Of Janus is a very peculiar read. The opening section of his kinda corny and po-faced 'philosophy' does have the odd section where you get carried away by his invocations of ubiquitous, world-upside-down injustice and feel infuriated on his behalf, and he's certainly not an untalented writer. During the second section of bog-standard serial killer true crime schtick you are looking out desperately for the asides about his own crimes and contacts he had in the prison system with the killers.
Sotos's afterword is incredible writing, absolutely devastating, one of the best things he has ever written, and of course inspired hate mail from Brady.
I am told the 'real' Brady book of autobiographical material is in the hands of a long-standing Manchester underground publishing firm beginning with 'S' and to be marketed following his death.
Quote from: HongKongGoolagong on August 27, 2012, 02:40:43 AM
The Gates Of Janus is a very peculiar read. The opening section of his kinda corny and po-faced 'philosophy' does have the odd section where you get carried away by his invocations of ubiquitous, world-upside-down injustice and feel infuriated on his behalf, and he's certainly not an untalented writer. During the second section of bog-standard serial killer true crime schtick you are looking out desperately for the asides about his own crimes and contacts he had in the prison system with the killers.
Sotos's afterword is incredible writing, absolutely devastating, one of the best things he has ever written, and of course inspired hate mail from Brady.
totally agree on this.
he writes very well, but the whole world vs me thing becomes annoying after a while.
yet it stands as a very intriguing document written from once from the leading actor himself.
Sotos's part is the best part of the book, no more/no less.
Durch die Nacht mit Michel Houellebecq und Calixto Bieito. (http://media.cinergy.ch/t_tip/6017/still1.jpg)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ed7aQzBOSQ&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ed7aQzBOSQ&feature=related)
"Eating Giants: Hippo"- Animal Planet docu with a crew setting up cameras for 7 days near a bloated hippo carcass while insects, buzzards, crocs, & hyenas have a feast. Pretty fucking awesome. Blood and fluids dripping off its body, buzzards sticking their heads inside the asshole before hyenas rip into the hippo's two inch thick skin exposing the enttrails. You can almost smell it! Next episode next month will be an elephant being feasted on.
is there a stream online somewhere? I love watching stuff decompose
I bet it doesnt have time to decompose with all those hungry mouths waiting.
you can stream it on the website but its not available here.
Meant to post a link but closed it out before doing it:
http://animal.discovery.com/video-topics/wild-animals/eating-giants-hippo.htm
Quote from: Human Larvae on September 25, 2012, 01:03:14 AM
is there a stream online somewhere? I love watching stuff decompose
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgBOpzM2sLM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1CD6gNmhr0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_SiqND9bNA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IT_bNKBcalI&feature=related
The murder of an amarican nazi
Has anyone seen the docu about Irish gypsy bare-knuckle fighters called "Knuckle"? I found a site that allows free streaming but said 'for UK residents only'.
Yeah. I'll like it. It's a solid doc about the fights the different families put on to prevent full out war between them. They have pretty rigid rules as well. The younger brother bites his opponent in an early fight and have to live in shame for ten years before he can get a return fight which ends in a draw.
They also send videos between the families taunting the other family. The guy who shoot the film was a wedding photographer when he was a asked to film a fight. He then comes addicted to the rush and goes on just filming. A bit like a real Theirry in Exit through the gift shop.
DRAGONSLAYER
Diary of an American wastoid. Bleak at times, but some really good skating.
Yesterday I have seen a French documentary featuring an American radical Rabbi speaking of the English defence League. I was wondering if anybody knows what I am talking about and if there is an English version of this, or further information on this person. I know he is part of the tea parties. No title unfortunately.
Quote from: tiny_tove on October 03, 2012, 10:47:00 AM
Yesterday I have seen a French documentary featuring an American radical Rabbi speaking of the English defence League. I was wondering if anybody knows what I am talking about and if there is an English version of this, or further information on this person. I know he is part of the tea parties. No title unfortunately.
Relates to this?: http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/oct/10/english-defence-league-tea-party
BLACK METAL VEINS may be interesting:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNwInvJEkUA
word in action documentaries about combat 18 before the split:
1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsqqLIbPbeA
2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9s0nBkXLNw&feature=relmfu
el asesino de pedralbes (1978)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogLD_CSxdN0&noredirect=1
very good spanish docu about José Luis Cerveto interviewed in prison where he was serving a life sentence in barcelona's prison for murdering a rich couple for whom he worked, talks about the crime, his infancy, pedo exploits, obsessions...
unfortunately no subs so only in spanish.
the other side of jimmy saville - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nHDZfSl36g
my current obsession
Quote from: tiny_tove on October 23, 2012, 01:30:35 PM
the other side of jimmy saville - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nHDZfSl36g
my current obsession
mine now too. keep posting!
I am searching for the integral Thearoux program (who anyway is one of my favourite TV person... his visit at Prussian Blue's family was absolutely cult, second only to Jon Ronson's program about White aryan resistance with the whole "date a nazi" love affair thing).
Quote from: Strömkarlen on October 02, 2012, 10:25:30 AM
They also send videos between the families taunting the other family.
some of those videos are mindblowing ...
shite in a bucket: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wL6aDrzs3Fs
simey no-voice/squeak: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkAUc-vuFoE
more shite in a bucket: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azLlTKIxIP4
Jason Massot – My Sex Robot (2010)
(http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/1226/myrobot3.jpg)
TV documentary on three robot fetishists.
http://worldscinema.org/2012/10/jason-massot-my-sex-robot-2010/ (http://worldscinema.org/2012/10/jason-massot-my-sex-robot-2010/)
Totally Wired
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l9esfedONx1qz9li8o1_400.jpg)
A documentary film about Andreas Schneider's infamous 'Schneider's Buero', the boutique electronic musical instrument shop in Berlin.
'Totally Wired' explores one man's electric evangelism, and the interface he has built to connect analogue instrument inventors with their end-users.
The film features an informed selection of inventors and artists alike, including Dieter Doepfer, Junior Boys, Cassy, Ken MacBeth, Anthony Rother, Jessica Rylan, Daniel Miller, Wowa Cwejman, Per Salzwedel, Ricardo Villalobos, Magda, Marc Houle, Max Loderbauer and many more.
Trailer// http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4pMpTZgM5s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4pMpTZgM5s)
Documentary (with commercials)// http://www.snagfilms.com/films/title/totally_wired (http://www.snagfilms.com/films/title/totally_wired)
Quote from: ddmurph on October 24, 2012, 12:27:18 AM
Quote from: Strömkarlen on October 02, 2012, 10:25:30 AM
They also send videos between the families taunting the other family.
some of those videos are mindblowing ...
shite in a bucket: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wL6aDrzs3Fs
simey no-voice/squeak: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkAUc-vuFoE
more shite in a bucket: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azLlTKIxIP4
Those are great! Probably going to have to go through all of'em on youtube. Noticed there were some fight videos too. Thx for thelinks!
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on October 25, 2012, 09:51:01 PM
Those are great! Probably going to have to go through all of'em on youtube. Noticed there were some fight videos too. Thx for thelinks!
i've only watched a handful of the fights on youtube but didn't find anything too great. lots of moving about, few punches thrown every few minutes, usually pretty messy. i didn't delve too deep though. if you find any good ones, post em here!
Quote from: tiny_tove on October 23, 2012, 05:31:20 PM
I am searching for the integral Thearoux program (who anyway is one of my favourite TV person... his visit at Prussian Blue's family was absolutely cult, second only to Jon Ronson's program about White aryan resistance with the whole "date a nazi" love affair thing).
did you find the louis theroux documentary? i haven't seen it in years but i remember it being one of my favourite ones. in retrospect, how amazing is this segment ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvjWZFXWDac
Quote
Louis: So, why do you say in interviews that you hate children when I've seen you with kids and you clearly enjoy their company and you have a good rapport with them?
...
Savile: Because we live in a very funny world. And it's easier for me, as a single man, to say "I don't like children" because that puts a lot of salacious tabloid people off the hunt.
...
Louis: Has it worked?
Savile: A dream
ha!!! also, in fairness, would you let your child near this man ...
(http://cdn.theguardian.tv/brightcove/poster/2012/10/1/01102012Saville_6728881.jpg)
looked like an even bigger cartoon paedo than fr sean fortune (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Se%C3%A1n_Fortune) ...
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4WQHJCNFUIw/TS2Ul3vN2mI/AAAAAAAAJ3s/-85P2UIyHl0/s1600/sean-fortune.jpg)
Whenever I browse fight videos I end up returning to football hooligan stuff; are there any non-British factory/hooligan films around? UK efforts I've seen so far have been shit. Fucking Danny Dyer and Elijah Wood? Fuck off. I'd rather watch an ex-Eastenders actor interviewing pirates.
So yeh, non-UK football violence/hooligan violence films (or docs) would be appreciated. English subs essential.
there is an 80's docu-drama about Eastern European hooligans creating Havoc on a train between violence, rape, ecc.
The movie is part set during the happenings (apparently real) and the trial.
I remember it was shown in schools when hooligans were getting bigger in Italy.
I think the Italian title is Perchè? (why) but I am not sure if it was Czech, Polish or from the ex Yugoslavia.
I will try to see if I still have the vhs at my parents' this Sunday.
Quite a bad one is Italy "Ultrà", it has some nice scenes but the end is crappy and completely over the top.
Asylum (Peter Robinson, 1972): amazing footage inside an R.D.Laing inspired commune for people experiencing mental distress used as an alternative to hospital. Many unforgettable scenes including a frail young girl who regresses to infancy continually and a painfully shy young man wearing eyeliner whose problems are dwarfed by those of his father, who picks him up: a monstrous upper-middle-class, seriously fucked up and repressed Englishman who maybe passes as 'normal' but seems terrifying and deformed in the context of the film. But the main and most intense sequence is towards the end, when the ongoing psychosis of the most disruptive and annoying resident worsens to include violent outbreaks. We get to see this older guy in full and unexpurgated florid mode, with pressured speech, knight's move thinking, word salad, agitation...I've experienced this state myself and it's frightening to watch, frightening to be around and of course not great to live through. He is talked down and through it apparently without drugs and in the very final scene we find out about his earlier life story, and all our pre-conceptions and prejudices are exploded. Thought-provoking and voyeuristic in equal measures, great documentary.
American Movie (Chris Smith, 1999): continually watchable and at times hilarious film following a socially inept low budget horror film director's bumbling attempts to make movies in some godawful midwestern culturally sterile shithole, and his dysfunctional friends and family. You just hate the guy early on, he's as articulate as Beavis and Butthead and seems utterly talentless and deluded. Slowly you start to admire his perseverance against all odds, and what you see of his final cut looks like good fun, the sort of thing I'd love to watch over a drink - the guy in question seems a full-blown alcoholic too, which adds to both the humour and depression. Like Stevie, this showed aspects of life in the USA that are hidden from the rest of the world's eyes.
Quote from: tiny_tove on October 26, 2012, 04:02:13 PM
there is an 80's docu-drama about Eastern European hooligans creating Havoc on a train between violence, rape, ecc.
The movie is part set during the happenings (apparently real) and the trial.
I remember it was shown in schools when hooligans were getting bigger in Italy.
I think the Italian title is Perchè? (why) but I am not sure if it was Czech, Polish or from the ex Yugoslavia.
I will try to see if I still have the vhs at my parents' this Sunday.
Quite a bad one is Italy "Ultrà", it has some nice scenes but the end is crappy and completely over the top.
Only found a trailer so far for
Ultrà, nothing for
Perchè, but thanks.
On the docu side, found this site, haven't checked any of the content really yet just had a quick glance - http://www.football-hooligans.org/ultras-firms-documentaries.html.
I am watching Danny Dyer's docs.He is annoying most of the tiome, esp when he pretend to get into dangerous situations. Reminds me Raz Degan when he was acting in Italy's trash-porogram about mysteries and occult.
But some of the stuff is absolutely amazing!!! Many cult figures interviewed and shitload of old material.
I am now watching the Turkish episode and it is possibly the best (with Poland) although it has not mentioned yet the Grey Wolves and the strong political charges of the radical right in some of the matches.
Impressive images with the clashes with Leeds.
They should dump Dyer and just have a narrator.
Quote from: tiny_tove on October 27, 2012, 07:27:10 PM
I am watching Danny Dyer's docs.He is annoying most of the tiome, esp when he pretend to get into dangerous situations. Reminds me Raz Degan when he was acting in Italy's trash-porogram about mysteries and occult.
But some of the stuff is absolutely amazing!!! Many cult figures interviewed and shitload of old material.
I am now watching the Turkish episode and it is possibly the best (with Poland) although it has not mentioned yet the Grey Wolves and the strong political charges of the radical right in some of the matches.
Impressive images with the clashes with Leeds.
They should dump Dyer and just have a narrator.
Yeh, unfortunately as a "pretty" actor (go figure) who has been typecast via Nick Love "grit" flicks, he naturally walked into the hosting role for Bravo. Still, that aside, a lot of the shows he has presented have been interesting subject matter.
Quote from: HongKongGoolagong on October 27, 2012, 05:10:34 PM
Asylum (Peter Robinson, 1972): amazing footage inside an R.D.Laing inspired commune for people experiencing mental distress used as an alternative to hospital. Many unforgettable scenes including a frail young girl who regresses to infancy continually and a painfully shy young man wearing eyeliner whose problems are dwarfed by those of his father, who picks him up: a monstrous upper-middle-class, seriously fucked up and repressed Englishman who maybe passes as 'normal' but seems terrifying and deformed in the context of the film. But the main and most intense sequence is towards the end, when the ongoing psychosis of the most disruptive and annoying resident worsens to include violent outbreaks. We get to see this older guy in full and unexpurgated florid mode, with pressured speech, knight's move thinking, word salad, agitation...I've experienced this state myself and it's frightening to watch, frightening to be around and of course not great to live through. He is talked down and through it apparently without drugs and in the very final scene we find out about his earlier life story, and all our pre-conceptions and prejudices are exploded. Thought-provoking and voyeuristic in equal measures, great documentary.
Really must see this. I was very into Laing as a teenager, especially after dealing with the mental health system. Now I gravitate more towards Szasz, but still this documentary seems immensely interesting.
King of kong. Documentary about the masters of Donkey kong. Geek dysfunctionality at its best. A must see.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQZ9wXO8RVs
French documentary on the 90th commemoration of blackshirts'march on Rome.
http://www.lemonde.fr/laducevita/#/le-vent-noir
Here you will see both old time veterans, but also the Italian version of "Hillinois nazis".
BBC documentary on LAZIO supporters
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNdRLYqLz1Y&feature=related
Looking forward to this one //
The Act Of Killing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQhIRBxbchU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQhIRBxbchU)
http://www.pinkbike.com/news/SEA-OF-ROCK-video-2012.html
Holy shit. I'd love to see the out-takes as there had to be some really scary near death fuck-up's. It's amazing how SMOOTH these guys are riding.
There are interviews with the riders & some history so I'm sticking this in the docu. thread..
Quote from: tiny_tove on October 29, 2012, 10:48:32 AM
King of kong. Documentary about the masters of Donkey kong. Geek dysfunctionality at its best. A must see.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQZ9wXO8RVs
Thanks for the link, I just watched it. It's quite good, it's a little testing at times listening to so many nerds talking but they manage to make a good story about it. Superb ending as well!
I read about the new season of "Whisker Wars" starting on the Independent Film Channel:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfLiZup6PCY
Watch season 2, episode 1 of "Whisker Wars":
http://www.ifc.com/shows/whisker-wars
Buck Angel's
Sexing the transman.
A friend of mine recently showed me this doc (thanx!). Haven't seen it yet, but its on the list. From what I can understand there is a documentary version of this film - as well as an extended porn version.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ec5MTgKSRzs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ec5MTgKSRzs)
MANKIND: THE STORY OF ALL OF US
http://www.history.com/shows/mankind-the-story-of-all-of-us#fbid=VzDvTIgJVbw
Final show is on Tuesday night about modern man, the less interesting.. Fave bits were about The Mongols & flinging diseased cadavers over city walls.
I'm a big fan of this show on Animal Planet:
http://animal.discovery.com/tv-shows/monsters-inside-me
Definitely will make you want to wash your hands after handling EVERYTHING & never, ever travel to third world countries.
I didn't like Mankind much, but I have yet to see them all. All of the other stuff that production company had done, such as Planet Earth and the other one on Sci about the Solar System were really good.
Cave of Forgotten Dreams by Werner Herzog was interesting.
MARWENCOL (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marwencol)
On April 8, 2000, Mark Hogancamp was attacked outside of a bar by five men who beat him nearly to death. After nine days in a coma and forty days in the hospital, Mark was discharged with brain damage that left him little memory of his previous life.
Unable to afford therapy, Mark creates his own by building a 1/6-scale World War II-era Belgian town in his yard and populating it with dolls representing himself, his friends, and even his attackers. He calls that town "Marwencol," a portmanteau of the names "Mark," "Wendy" and "Colleen." He rehabilitates his physical wounds by manipulating the small dolls and props — and his mental ones by having the figures act out various battles and stories.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMWFhplFSEQ
this looks excellent
It's been rather boring for most of the time - too long and too much of nothing happening. Or my expectations were too high. talking for minutes about how he always wanted to wear high heels etc.
ARNOLD
-pumping iron-
informative and fun - HA!
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_8KRL-rxxPHU/TN61AyrFSYI/AAAAAAAABzE/ZOwVvOrCdG8/s1600/Arnold+Schwarzenegger+Pumping+Iron.jpg)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1-lIVHkfjA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1-lIVHkfjA)
Henry Darger
-The Realms of the Unreal-
(http://ohdeardesign.com/dearblog/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Henry-Darger.jpg)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRlvDKcDvsI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRlvDKcDvsI)
Does anyone know if Slow Southern Steel has yet been released, and where could I get Romua, ruiskeita, rutinaa?
"FrackNation"
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2013/01/21/fracknation-documentary-attacks-critics/1851609/
Debunks a lot of the documentary, "Gasland" & its director.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on January 23, 2013, 10:30:43 PM
"FrackNation"
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2013/01/21/fracknation-documentary-attacks-critics/1851609/
Debunks a lot of the documentary, "Gasland" & its director.
They started fracking near here just lately and suddenly we had earthquakes for the first time ever. The local critics and campaigners are not your usual ecowarrior types, they are elderly and conservative farmers who've never done anything like political campaigning before. Don't know enough about the possible water poisoning issues to say anything and think the whole discussion is none too fascinating, just think it's funny how people suddenly get enraged when something encroaches on their own back yard.
I don't know much about it either but GasLand makes it sound like the world is going to end (Some of the people in GL are really suspect intheir claims) & FrackNation makes it sound harmless. I'm sure the truth is in the middle- some places have issues, most do not. It's been going on in the US since the '40s- the process isn't new, just using it on shale is. The earthquake claims sound overblown; tremors would be more accurate & since fracking is all over the US, there doesn't seem to be much of them going on. I think natural gas sounds like the best bet over windmills, solar, or electric cars (both use rare earth minerals that are hardly enviromentally friendly considering they come from China).
One comment in the docu is that the fracking process is only about 3 days out of everything else that is done. It isn't like it goes on forever.
Mentions earthquakes:
http://www.ohio.com/editorial/robert-w-chase-five-myths-about-fracking-1.257129
BBC Radiophonic Workshop
Tape loop mayhem.
Via ubuweb: The BBC's Radiophonic Workshop was set up in 1958, born out of a desire to create 'new kinds of sounds'. The Alchemists of Sound looks at this creative group from its inception, through its golden age when it was supplying music and effects for cult classics like Doctor Who, Blake's Seven and Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy, and charts its fading away in 1995 when, due to budget cuts, it was no longer able to survive.
http://www.ubu.com/film/alchemists.html (http://www.ubu.com/film/alchemists.html)
Quote from: online prowler on January 28, 2013, 10:11:28 PM
BBC Radiophonic Workshop
Tape loop mayhem.
Via ubuweb: The BBC's Radiophonic Workshop was set up in 1958, born out of a desire to create 'new kinds of sounds'. The Alchemists of Sound looks at this creative group from its inception, through its golden age when it was supplying music and effects for cult classics like Doctor Who, Blake's Seven and Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy, and charts its fading away in 1995 when, due to budget cuts, it was no longer able to survive.
http://www.ubu.com/film/alchemists.html (http://www.ubu.com/film/alchemists.html)
Great documentary. Delia Derbyshire was quite the noise pioneer. Her incidental sound effect music which I have on various vinyl editions freaks out the cat like nothing else does but early Whitehouse.
The New Sound Of Music 1979 (Part 1)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MsyOe7xCqg
There's also this BBC documentary which is kind of related. It doesn't focus on any of the personalities of the Radiophonic Workshop, but rather the techniques employed there etc. Not nearly as interesting as The Alchemists of Sound, especially to people here who are familiar with the techniques employed, but a historical curiosity nonetheless.
Strangely enough, my cat, having been raised on a steady listening regiment of early Whitehouse and other high-pitched, feedback laden musics, only really has a problem with people playing guitar or singing in the same room as her. She'll put her paw over the fret board and plead-meow for the offender to stop. Or she'll just bite them. I can play with loud, amplified feedback to my hearts content, and it doesn't phase her in the least. Recorded sounds of people singing and playing guitar don't bother her either. Noise Cat.
http://www.guillaume-herbaut.com/en/russia-the-slavic-union/
MEA MAXIMA CULPA SILENCE IN THE HOUSE OF GOD
Sexual abuse and the church.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSstCtWl54w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSstCtWl54w)
Empire Of Noise
Radio Jamming Documentary
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXV4nTfGHuI
SOON OUT:
I am Divine (2013)
Trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUiX5Llrb58 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUiX5Llrb58)
Leviathan (2012)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vntC7OPDHs8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vntC7OPDHs8)
Just finished a docu-drama about Robert Pickton on the Biography channel. I always thought he fed the remains of whores to his pigs but he sent most of the remains to a rendering plant. Also just discovered there's one book on the Pickton case called "On the Farm" by Stevie Cameron; will have to order soon.
The trailer for "Leviathan" looks like all the same type of footage seen for the last few years on the Alaskan crab-fishing show on Discovery Channel. The show has gotten pretty cool with the use of small cameras they can mount on everything that's on the ship or is thrown off the ship.
I love the documentaries thread here, I've watched some cracking stuff.
Just thought I would add this to the list.
Docu about the band Crass, sorry if this has been posted before, I'm new here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LQ1CvwF7BQ&NR=1&feature=endscreen
@Potier
Thats a great docu (Jamming)
The Pervert's Guide To Cinema
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mL5McgLd-xw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mL5McgLd-xw)
One Man Metal
Xasthur, Leviathan and Striborg
On YouTube in three parts.
Part 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQl6PzXU4cQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQl6PzXU4cQ)
I had not heard about whole documentary. Being currently plagued by flu, and trying to figure out what to do what qualifies as "rest". As simply laying down doing nothing is pretty much impossible for me. Just can't be done. There's time for that when I'm dead.
Anyways, mr. Salamanauhat adviced this document yesterday and I decided to spend 45 minutes to see it.
When it's VICE production and only 3 guys interviewed, I had quite small expectations. But eventually, they actually get probably more out of less people than trying to include more perspectives / interview targets. Idea is to choose one man bands which represent the "outsider" element of (black)metal the best. And the natural choice is the Southern Lord roster bands: Xasthur, Leviathan ja Striborg.
Because there are only 3 guys and director/interviewer stay out quite well, it leaves about 15 mins of fame (hah) for each guy to deal with the project and their lives in general.
While document is fairly good as document itself, it is perhaps even better to indicate drastic difference of what is (or what I, and many others feel is) european black metal... visionary, grandioso, faustian, perhaps sometimes fascist, occasionally even semi-intellectual and if not as opposite, then at least very separated from those currents is the somewhat visible current of american BM embracing its own personal angst, social inadequacy, solitude within urban surroundings, and all sorts of... well. You know.
Of course the interviewers and the format has a lot to do with outcome, yet Striborg (from Tasmania) manages to come out as somewhat down to earth guy, but still with authentic link to solitude and nature mysticism.
While watching something like Xasthur, makes me think once in a while fuck what a crap this is. Inverted baseball cap guy in some palm tree park complaining that people don't understand him and leave me alone. Oh please, hand him a tissue already!
But it is still entertaining document to some extent. Even if you don't particularly worship or even know any of the bands. Idea of this self recorded one man metal bands is very appealing and one of the best things what happened for BM in many ways... Transformation from rock groups to something else.
There's a music video / documentary festival in town this weekend, and saw a few already. One interesting among others was Klaartje Quirijns' Anton Corbijn Inside Out. Tells the story of this photographer whose works everyone has seen, iconic photos of music stars and other celebrities. Consists mostly of some day-to-day stuff, his interviews, shows him taking photos of famous people etc. Shows also the results of the same pictures. Nice and mellow tempo. I really enjoy his style of photographing.
Trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmhdI655Dis
Uprising: Hip Hop & The LA Riots
Documentary about the massive LA riots of 1992, triggered by the brutal beating of Rodney King by the police, and hip hop music's relation to them. Attempts to reach the underlying racially motivated tensions of the city. Lots of first-hand videofootage, newsflashes, interviews, etc. Entertaining but in a way doesn't actually go too deep into the subject. Very one-dimensionally done. Everything the movie says is really shown in the trailer.
I'd recommend this still, it's very captivating at points. Several moments of total comedy in it also.
Trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYhsLj2QplE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYhsLj2QplE)
Tsurisaki Kiyotaka's
collection of short shockumentaries JUNK FILMS (2007).
FULL MOVIE:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0f7k3T6nDc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0f7k3T6nDc)
the colors of darkness
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2299219/The-colour-darkness-Vivid-pictures-Nazi-concentration-camps-chilling-insight-dawn-Holocaust.html
Quote from: online prowler on March 25, 2013, 12:58:53 PM
Tsurisaki Kiyotaka's
collection of short shockumentaries JUNK FILMS (2007).
FULL MOVIE:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0f7k3T6nDc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0f7k3T6nDc)
Thanks a ton!
Quote from: online prowler on March 25, 2013, 12:58:53 PM
Tsurisaki Kiyotaka's
collection of short shockumentaries JUNK FILMS (2007).
FULL MOVIE:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0f7k3T6nDc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0f7k3T6nDc)
complete classic!
There was mention a while back of a DVD coming out of a documentary about Finnish black metal and that there was going to be an extra documentary on the DVD with quite a few Finnish noise/PE people (Bizarre Uproar was one of them). Anyone know if this is still happening or if it's out yet? I can't remember the name of it.
Quote from: Si Clark on March 26, 2013, 07:42:35 PMI can't remember the name of it.
Loputon Gehennan Liekki: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWzlSeGR5bU
Thanks
Quote from: Eloy on March 26, 2013, 08:07:26 PM
Quote from: Si Clark on March 26, 2013, 07:42:35 PMI can't remember the name of it.
Loputon Gehennan Liekki: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWzlSeGR5bU
And if I remember correctly, the extra with quite a few Finnish noise/PE people was called "
Romua, ruiskeita, rutinaa".
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x27w45_enfants-de-salo_shortfilms#from=embediframe
Documentaire sur le film Salo de Pasolini avec Gaspard Noe, Catherine Breillat, Claire Denis et Bertrand Bonello.
Quote from: Si Clark on March 26, 2013, 07:42:35 PM
There was mention a while back of a DVD coming out of a documentary about Finnish black metal and that there was going to be an extra documentary on the DVD with quite a few Finnish noise/PE people (Bizarre Uproar was one of them). Anyone know if this is still happening or if it's out yet? I can't remember the name of it.
yeah, I guess slightly bigger film company is putting it out instead of the usual "UG labels".
Quote from: tiny_tove on April 05, 2013, 03:40:19 PM
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x27w45_enfants-de-salo_shortfilms#from=embediframe
Documentaire sur le film Salo de Pasolini avec Gaspard Noe, Catherine Breillat, Claire Denis et Bertrand Bonello.
Wow, thanks, I hadn't heard about that!
Bill Maher's
Religulous (http://youtu.be/bMDF3bGyFmo)
This is already quite old but stands the test of time very well. I just found out about this documentary today and I think it's quite brilliant. Bill Maher has very good points and as a stand-up comedian (and half-jew) he's, obviously, very smooth from his mouth. I love it when he asks about the facts of the bible and the religulous people completely shut down and start mumbling something completely out-of-point or just blame him for being judgemental.
Britain has a lot of pedo's:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vq8zqDPmQxE
I just watched amazing documentary about Himmler - Nazi Underworld! GREAT one!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5qhb-fYmvk
Blood in the Face
"A searing 1991 documentary on the history of Aryan Nations and other neo-nazi groups. Includes appearances by Don Black, Thom Robb, Jack Moher, Allen Poe, John Ross Taylor, Bruce Pierce, Alan Berg, David Duke, Glenn Miller, and George Lincoln Rockwell. Created by Kevin Rafferty, Anne Bohlen, James Ridgeway, and Michael Moore."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfPx-f5Mpo4
Cinemania
"CINEMANIA (2002) is a documentary about the culture of intense cinephilia in New York City that reveals the impassioned world of five wildly obsessed movie buffs. They spend their waking hours in darkened theaters, and now, these full-time audience members step from their seats onto the big screen in this entertaining documentary which celebrates their obsessions - from the grandiosity of their aesthetic dreams to the austerity of their domestic realities. In Cinemania, the Silver Screen's biggest fans become the true stars. This is the story of their lives, their memories, their unbending habits and the films they love.
Directed by Angela Christlieb & Stephen Kijak"
Now on Vimeo:
http://vimeo.com/65855103 (http://vimeo.com/65855103)
Mandatory docu
Crumb (1994)
Director: Terry Zwigoff.
Documentary fleshing comic artist Robert Crumb.
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Clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s65nqtHEOtg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s65nqtHEOtg)
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Awesome collection! Those must've cost a fortune. The VHS times pretty much ended in my late teens, but word has it that asian mondo tapes were kind of the holy grail for any VHS collector. I'll be getting 12 Death Files titles this week as a digital copy, never seen any of them before. I'm expecting something in the likes of Death Women, is that appropriate?
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!WORSHIP!
RIPS WANTED
Got lots of these on VHS dubs. Death Files, Dead Women series, true gore, etc... I recall reading article what mentioned that in Japan was big trend/boom of all sorts of violence and grotesque in early 90's. All those great magazines a'la TOO NEGATIVE and videos of all sorts of true gore. Accidents, deaths, autopsies, etc.. But I guess that was killed by internet. Why bother, when everything is out there, for free. I'm guessing that onyone looking for accidents, death, suicides, autopsies, just go to whatever atrocious video tube channels and click play....
Quote from: Scat-O-Logy on May 23, 2013, 03:14:29 PM
Quote from: online prowler on May 23, 2013, 03:04:20 PM
RIPS WANTED
Yeah, they are pretty much impossible to find online. I guess there are torrents somewhere, but they're most likely dead. I'm getting mine from a hardcore enthusiast who I "met" coincidentally. Been searching for these for years, originally I thought only DF Yellow, Red and Black existed, now I know that there are also DF 1-5, the New Death File series etc.
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on May 23, 2013, 04:12:03 PM
Got lots of these on VHS dubs. Death Files, Dead Women series, true gore, etc... I recall reading article what mentioned that in Japan was big trend/boom of all sorts of violence and grotesque in early 90's. All those great magazines a'la TOO NEGATIVE and videos of all sorts of true gore. Accidents, deaths, autopsies, etc.. But I guess that was killed by internet. Why bother, when everything is out there, for free. I'm guessing that onyone looking for accidents, death, suicides, autopsies, just go to whatever atrocious video tube channels and click play....
I'm not a walking encyclopedia on these matters but I also know of many japanese compilations, but I guess most of them are even harder to find than the DF series nowadays. The internet is "better" for these matters I guess, but it misses most of the obscurity of some of the old VHS tapes. I recall seeing some newer thing called "Gesichter des Sterbens" (meaning "Faces of Dying" in English - very creative) which sucked incredibly hard as well as a newer (?) "sequel" to "Executions" (which has nothing to do with the original of course), which sucked just as much. I don't know of any other post-internet compilations except "Most Disturbed Person on Planet Earth", which is nothing more than an assembly of some fetish JAV and basically all of the internet gross out clips. Never made it to DVD and the relevance is also quite questionable in my eyes. The decease of Real Death doesn't bother me as much as the death of the Mondo film though. Those were always a real treat. But I guess the times in which stuff like that was marketable are over since the 70ies, hehe.
I think the company that released Death Files has a branch in Brazil that has released the series on dvd. I remember looking at the site but didn't save the link. I'd love to have burns of all of those too!
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on May 24, 2013, 01:52:51 AM
I think the company that released Death Files has a branch in Brazil that has released the series on dvd. I remember looking at the site but didn't save the link. I'd love to have burns of all of those too!
Yup, the spanish alternate title for the series is "Arquivos da Morte". It seems as if the DF series was only a side project for the company MAD, as it was really productive back in the days, also marketing tons of bestiality, the Guinea Pig films, fetish porn etc. I guess some liberal country like the Netherlands could make a fortune by rereleasing some of their stuff, just like Alpha Blue started to do some time ago.
Holy shit, Coma Detox told me he scored the videos on eBay for cheap!
Unearthed Films should try to get some of the Death Files for release in the US or a Death Women I/II dual Blu-ray set sold in porn shops only., like they were sold in Japan. Has anyone seen Vol. 2? I think I still have a dub of the first one & some of the D.Files.
Quote from: vomitgore on May 24, 2013, 02:05:02 AM
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on May 24, 2013, 01:52:51 AM
I think the company that released Death Files has a branch in Brazil that has released the series on dvd. I remember looking at the site but didn't save the link. I'd love to have burns of all of those too!
Yup, the spanish alternate title for the series is "Arquivos da Morte". It seems as if the DF series was only a side project for the company MAD, as it was really productive back in the days, also marketing tons of bestiality, the Guinea Pig films, fetish porn etc.
Interesting! Thanks for posting about this.
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80 bux for this on ebay, tempting to go back on the internet, but you can only use the internet content for so long. The old vhs are a better mode of receiving the content.
The cover photo from this Death File Red video depicts a fetal alcohol or drug related birth defect, this same footage was included in one of the
Traces Of Death videos, that would also be a cool dvd set to track down, but some parts of those Traces Of Death videos are completely stupid when they replace actual death footage with race car crashes, ect.
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Even though it lacks a lot of on screen violence, I think this film works better than the original Faces Of Death, I found out about it in a film class in college, and was lucky enough to be given a bootleg copy of it on vhs.
There's currently Orozco The Embalmer (http://youtu.be/hO8jg27gs0w) for sale on Ebay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-LIMITED-SEALED-MASSACRE-VIDEO-OROZCO-THE-EMBALMER-HORROR-VHS-/161014585901?pt=VHS&hash=item257d379a2d). Maybe some of you have enough money and enthusiasm to buy it? I would love to but that's just too much for my budget. I have it on my computer and I kinda like it. It's exactly what the title says it is: 1h and 32 min of embalming action, hah.
Miker, would love to have a rip of that film!
I have the Japanese dvd release of Orozco that the director/artist released. Bought it from Xploited Cinema for around $69. Never, ever thought it'd get released in the U.S.! I also have the Japanese Junk Films dvd.
Look for the US dvds of both of those released by Massacre Video (DiabolikDVD has them). Much, much cheaper:
http://massacrevideo.com/site/product-category/dvds/
I think I saw on DiabolikDVD that they're cheaper but didn't notice if they were actually in stock.
I remember "Of the Dead"- same director as the infamous "Pig Fucking Movie". Wouldn't mind seeing both again...
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Hers is that tape, it's pretty good Ted Bundy interview, then after that you find out its an anti pornography propaganda film.
Quote from: Scat-O-Logy on May 24, 2013, 10:42:46 PM
There's currently Orozco The Embalmer (http://youtu.be/hO8jg27gs0w) for sale on Ebay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-LIMITED-SEALED-MASSACRE-VIDEO-OROZCO-THE-EMBALMER-HORROR-VHS-/161014585901?pt=VHS&hash=item257d379a2d). Maybe some of you have enough money and enthusiasm to buy it? I would love to but that's just too much for my budget. I have it on my computer and I kinda like it. It's exactly what the title says it is: 1h and 32 min of embalming action, hah.
It's good film in some ways. Orozco is so harsh in his attitude & looks. Especially in scene where he fills the small child with all sorts of fabrics to avoid body collapsing into unnatural look.
Last week I got "The Cambodian Room: Situations with Antoine D'Agata" DVD. I enjoyed it a lot but it felt like the possibilities of a documentary dealing with D'Agata was restrained by the limited and reserved nature of the journalist team. Still it had many good moments and is absolutely worth the money. Afterwards I watched his own feature film "Aka Ana".
Antoine D'Agata, a photographer from Magnum Agency, is in Phom Penh (Cambodia). Drugs, sex and errance are his autobiographical subjects, but in Cambodia his artistic trail seems to reach an utmost point.
After devoting his art to picture desolated landscapes and borderline realities all around the world, Antoine D'Agata focuses his art on body and flesh, in a narrow room.
In Cambodia he spends many weeks locked in Lee's room. Antoine lives a kind of desperate and paradoxal « love story » with Lee, a prostitute, smoking dope and trying to take pictures of his intimate relationship with her.
This film catches the hidden part of his art-life; his choice of living sex and drugs as both cure and conviction. An apocalyptic and sublime course, similar to the ones of other heretic artists of contemporary culture, from Kerouac to Artaud, from Bacon to Pasolini.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hBN_1YWyOs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hBN_1YWyOs)
"Afterwards I watched his own feature film "Aka Ana". "
I want to see "Aka Ana". Do you have the dvd or a link?
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on May 27, 2013, 08:08:44 PM
"Afterwards I watched his own feature film "Aka Ana". "
I want to see "Aka Ana". Do you have the dvd or a link?
YOU need to see this. If you remind me I'll make you a DVDR of it.
I'm reminding you now! Make me a dvd-r!
Laibach: A Film From Slovenia
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgQ3uW0R4wI
People Who Do Noise (2008)
Full Concert Movie Documentary
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGrN6PeIiOU
Beyond Ultra-Violence: Uneasy Listening by Merzbow (1998) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzxOLHqqS88
Oh! Moro Volume 5 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpKuE2rJt_s
Kingdom Of Noise - Japanese Noise Selection (Full Video) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtHGOYgSYc8
Just started watching this documentary in six parts
Rebels: A Journey Underground
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjsziYpdKy0
Quote from: Mikerdeath on May 26, 2013, 10:08:50 AM
Hers is that tape, it's pretty good Ted Bundy interview, then after that you find out its an anti pornography propaganda film.
hah, i bought that at a salvation army for about ten cents, but i knew full well it was an anti-porn thing... it was titled "PORNOGRAPHY: ADDICTIVE, DANGEROUS AND
DEADLY" or something like that, and it said in small letters "contains ted bundy's final interview" ... i remember being kinda pissed that bundy sorta falls right in line with the religious dude. granted, he was getting executed the next day, and i know a lot of people find god and stuff...
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Quote from: Mikerdeath on May 24, 2013, 09:26:40 PM
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Even though it lacks a lot of on screen violence, I think this film works better than the original Faces Of Death, I found out about it in a film class in college, and was lucky enough to be given a bootleg copy of it on vhs.
An incredible documentary and highly respectful in tackling its subject IMHO (there was even recently a dedicated article about it in an issue of the esteemed UK film magazine Sight and Sound). I had the pleasure to see Des Morts projected in a cinema from an original print during a film festival retrospective of Thierry Zero's work some years back, also got to see Vase de Noces there too. Unfortunately there were a couple of wankers who kept openly laughing all the way through Des Morts who must have thought they were watching Faces of Gore at a house party or something; not in an art house cinema with the director present...
Someone asked Thierry Zeno after the screening if he could sign his copy of the DVD edition attached above - he flat-out refused because the DVD is unauthorised by him and it contains an extra added scene that wasn't in the original screening, plus, just look at the fucking cover... would you sign that?! I've not seen the DVD version but it used to sell for mere dollars last time I checked - the same company also released all the Jacopetti mondo films too (in similarly awful DVD covers) before Blue Underground did them justice.
Love the face peeling scene in Orozco.
It looks like shit.... I used to have several of the bootleg releases from that label but sold them since the quality was awful. I can recommend the swedish edition of Des Morts (also of his other movie). They are 100% authorized releases and much cheaper than i.e. Camera Obscura. Heard something about it being a cut version but I don't really care...
http://www.njutafilms.com/en-studie-i-dod/ (http://www.njutafilms.com/en-studie-i-dod/)
http://www.njutafilms.com/svinet/ (http://www.njutafilms.com/svinet/)
Room 237
Directed by Rodney Ascher, 2012.
Kubrick's film The shining, individual obsessions and conspiracy theories; all under the microscope.
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Quote from: online prowler on June 07, 2013, 12:21:15 AM
Room 237
Directed by Rodney Ascher, 2012.
I love The Shining conspiracy theories and thus was very excited to see "Room 237" however I found it to be very poorly executed. Half the movie clips they use appear to be sourced from youtube they look so shitty, but moreover I can't stand documentaries like this that are edited to mock the subject of the documentary - in this case the use of unrelated clips and/or music is more often than not satirizing the sincere thoughts of the people being interviewed with the subtlety of an elementary schoolyard bully. Some of the ideas people in "Room 237" are definitely absurd to the point of comedic but the ham-fisted way the director tried to constantly broadcast "WOW ISN'T WHAT THIS GUY SAYING CRAAAZZY!?!?!?" as overtly as possible via editing felt really unnecessary, amateurish & regrettable to me. I would've much preferred if they actually showed the people being interviewed w/o any extraneous accompaniment rather than exclusively showing movie clips over the interview audio.
The most telling part of the whole thing is when they show a title card explaining that the MSTRMND blog guy (who has the most extreme in-depth Shining conspiracy theories I am aware of) declined to be interviewed so they just show his website and have the guy from Excepter sounding really stoned be like "yeah man, this shit is like..... craazzy, right?" I can only assume the MSTRMND guy could tell the people making this movie were jokers and wanted to save himself the embarrassment of involvement in this documentary.
If a Tree Falls: A Story of the Earth Liberation Front
THE SECRET GLORY (2001, documentary).
Richard Stanley (director of Dust Devil and Hardware) spins the real life story of SS officer Otto Rahn and his search for the Holy Grail.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1prqhIq4uc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1prqhIq4uc)
steve ignorant
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-23851982
a funny (yet sensationalistic) documentary of the "bizarre foods" series about my family's country of origin SARDINIA food tradition.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nokj66MaZAE
features amongts other things the notorious casu marzu (rotten cheese - with living maggots).
no sheperds fucking sheeps sorry.
Nollywood Babylon (2008?)
nigerian "film industry", lagos diy movie mania... full of dirty afro funk soundtrack!!
Beware of Mr. Baker (2012?)
interviews of this ultra angry drummer, also showing the low point of his life, which is actually putting an ad in some music mag lookin for a band in the 80's...
both recommended!!
http://dangerousminds.net/comments/surreal_1975_film_on_teaching_sex_ed_to_people_with_learning_disabilities
Quote from: tiny_tove on September 04, 2013, 02:46:33 PM
no sheperds fucking sheeps sorry.
Well everyday needs one those stories. http://www.odditycentral.com/animals/brazilian-man-to-marry-pet-goat-in-devils-curch.html
Finally watched Peter Wakins' The War Game. Really deadpan and depressing, smaller scope than Threads in that it doesn't go far into the aftermath of an attack and is fairly directly based on the reality of previous nuclear and non-nuclear attacks but really grim nonetheless with some moments of dark humour/irony. The mundane (and now quaint) locations/characters and the use of non actors gives it a different kind of impact to other similar films somehow.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dox_cmm4feE
Quote from: Cementimental on September 11, 2013, 11:03:57 AM
Finally watched Peter Wakins' The War Game. Really deadpan and depressing, smaller scope than Threads in that it doesn't go far into the aftermath of an attack and is fairly directly based on the reality of previous nuclear and non-nuclear attacks but really grim nonetheless with some moments of dark humour/irony. The mundane (and now quaint) locations/characters and the use of non actors gives it a different kind of impact to other similar films somehow.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dox_cmm4feE
Wakins is a brilliant filmmaker. Can co-sign as well on The War Game. Can also recommend his films: Edvard Munch (be sure to get the org extended version from Eureka) Punishment Park and La commune (Paris, 1871). He also made a Sci-fi in Denmark titled Aftenlandet. Would love to see it, but have been difficult to track down. Note: Punishment Park is a fiction film w influences from docu and a little bit of sci-fi.
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i usually stay miles away from anything Peta/animal rights etc-related, but this was rather good. Has been compared to Grizzly Man (wich imho was insanely boring) but much beter. Focus on Tilikum at SeaWorld (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tilikum_%28orca%29 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tilikum_%28orca%29)).
The essence (=>12000pound predators are not build to do flips in a pool) could also have been told without the tearjerker end....sigh.
Would love to see some real footage, considering the damage :
http://www.autopsyfiles.org/reports/Other/brancheau,%20dawn_report.pdf (http://www.autopsyfiles.org/reports/Other/brancheau,%20dawn_report.pdf)
SEA OF TREES docu
http://death2suicide.com/ (http://death2suicide.com/)
Quote from: tiny_tove on September 04, 2013, 02:46:33 PM
a funny (yet sensationalistic) documentary of the "bizarre foods" series about my family's country of origin SARDINIA food tradition.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nokj66MaZAE
features amongts other things the notorious casu marzu (rotten cheese - with living maggots).
no sheperds fucking sheeps sorry.
absolutely loved this , watched it even twice !
the casu marzu might be a bit too strong for my taste (i don't like blue cheeses either) but that butcher and his cellar full of spiced/salten/dried pigmeat looks like pure paradise !!! ...if/when possible (moneywise) my gal and me will def. visit Sardinia in the future , absolutely amazing food and great nature there , thanks a bunch for the heads-up !!!
since i usually don't watch TV (except for some docustuff uploaded on youtube and similar sites) , i wasn't familiar with this "Bizarre Foods" series , did find a bunch of them on youtube though and am now gradually watching them all , already seen a few , especially Ecuador stood out , another country to visit !
something else : yesterday i watched this one : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izsym4bxeGA "The Mystery Of The Cocaine Mummy" ....title sounds better than it is really imo. ...had expected some more insights and less speculation and filler but it was kinda nice to find out that the pharaos (supposedly) were "heads" too !
"When I see happy couples during Christmas, I wish they would die (http://youtu.be/TBLUKct85as)"
(I'll update this post when the full version is up)
FULL VERSION UP (http://youtu.be/qpZbu7J7UL4) <--clickclick
That brings the though to The Death Squad track DECAY.
Just watched Whores' Glory (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1327628/?ref_=nv_sr_1)
Quite vague take on whoring in three different parts of the world. No useless crap, all business. Really enjoyed it even though it seemed a little monotonous at times. Troubled Thai chicks looking for some affection, desperate Indians sold by their parents and addicted trainwrecks of Mexico. Highly recommended!
The Act of Killing (2012)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2375605/
I usually don't like to read about what I'm going to watch, but in this case I just read a brief description. My response was: WTF!?
Leaders and executioners of death squadrons and criminal organizations recreating and commenting in usually funny & bizarre ways the laughters they commited almost 50 years after they happened. Documentary spreads veracity, they are individuals speaking in total care free way, they have no fear of authorities or law since they are incarnated by themselves indeed. Truly interesting about murderers' psyche and social situation in actual country as a result of the facts they participated in.
"The Sound Of Belgium"....gets lots of attention over here (ofcourse), nice overview of the electronic dance scene in Belgium,
from http://youtu.be/EnmTtC7A_qc (http://youtu.be/EnmTtC7A_qc) to http://youtu.be/iDqkq9t3ovE (http://youtu.be/iDqkq9t3ovE) and http://youtu.be/200tmiDdht0 (http://youtu.be/200tmiDdht0), trip down memory lane, had a blast!
http://www.beforethey.com/
Impressive work about the current main victims of globalization and cultural massification.
Great photos TT. Highly skilled executed and beyond!!
Whores' Glory and The Act Of Killing are superb features. I recommend to try interested parties to get a hold of the extended version of TAOK.
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Potential:
DEATH METAL ANGOLA
Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kUsGB1nMpE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kUsGB1nMpE)
Site: http://www.deathmetalangola.org/ (http://www.deathmetalangola.org/)
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Saw this a while a go. Can highly recommend it.
Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0HdBVkBkrs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0HdBVkBkrs)
Full, might not work outside Norway: http://tv.nrk.no/program/koid29001211/sarnos-kjaerleik-i-sexfilmens-tid (http://tv.nrk.no/program/koid29001211/sarnos-kjaerleik-i-sexfilmens-tid)
Joe Sarno, who was, in the words of porn actress Annie Sprinkle, "the Ingmar Bergman of sex movies," made 75 films, all of which he wrote himself. He used his chosen genre of sexploitation to explore sexual and human relationships, centering mostly on women. He remained firm to keeping his films softcore, believing full explicitness wasn't necessary to get the sex across. But when hardcore movies became popular in the 70s, his genre, and his career along with it, was basically over. And there's a reason this film is called "The Sarnos": the other part of the story concerns Peggy, Joe's loving wife and better half, who nurtured Joe and made it possible to continue making movies even after the market, his audience, and the times had passed him by. The most touching scene of the film has Peggy proudly showing Joe's New York Times obit – Sarno died in 2010 – prominently featured at the top of the page. This was vindication for both of them, a "fuck you," as Peggy says, to all those who doubted Joe when he was alive, and who criticized Peggy for sticking by him. This film shows that Sarno, though he may have been in a disreputable genre, nevertheless was a true artist, who dedicated his life fully to his craft.
(http://www.impawards.com/intl/sweden/2013/posters/sarnos_a_life_in_dirty_movies.jpg)
Found on line one of the documents I stole many samples from for my first CD Memories from the pigsty. Tracing the life in early 2000 of some prime movers of the Blood & Honour scene. From one of the main guys of the skrewdriver security, to the guy who was actually releasing their records before the ISD records affair...
White trash culture a go-go, between council flats, rehab, jail, etc.
Interviews are VERY powerful.
One if my face samples ever:
"Former leader Neil, who describes stabbing someone as "too easy, like getting butter out of a tub" "
These guys in their youth became posterboys of the skinhead scare since they took part to a very famous photoshoot that is still used today.
"100% White is a powerful portrait of men trapped on the margins of society. Leo Regan's subjects, Colin, Neil and Nick, may have left their neo-Nazi gang behind, but shedding their own fear, hatred and violence is a far harder task.
Former leader Neil, who describes stabbing someone as "too easy, like getting butter out of a tub", now seeks counselling to control his violent tendencies. Colin left the gang because "you've got to look after your family before you can sort out your country", but demonstrates his paternalism by assaulting his wife and forbidding his children to have black schoolfriends. Nick has befriended a black man but still "can't get on with Asians." All three miss the camaraderie of the gang, the powerful identity and sense of belonging now so patently absent from their lives.
Like Alan Clarke's groundbreaking drama Made in Britain, Regan achieves the difficult task of humanising men whose views and actions are both reprehensible and frightening. At the same time, he never lets his subjects off the hook, challenging them even at personal risk. His only weapon, and best defence, is a disarming openness, which extends from subject to form.
Unlike traditional 'observational' documentaries, where the film-maker remains hidden behind a veil of so-called 'objectivity', Regan throws himself into the situation as an active participant, offering his opinions and leaving his questions on the soundtrack. As the effects of filming are foregrounded (particularly the way Regan's presence influences Colin's wife Karla, and Neil's girlfriend Charlene) 100% White becomes a video diary of the interaction between film-maker and subject - hand-held, messy, personal.. That these paranoid men reveal so much and that we, as viewers, care so much, is testament to Regan's skill and compassion."
Thanx Tiny Tove for the mention. Trailer for Made in Britain looks promising. Will make a note of this film to watch soon.
Saw the documentary "Body Without Soul" anno 1996 by Wiktor Grodecki yesterday. Thumbs up, can wholeheartedly recommend it. Film follows a group of adolescent male prostitutes, from ages 16 to around 18 in a harsh Prague reality during the mid '90s. Economic crisis and lack of parental / role model guidance lurks. I don't want to say to much, but the film gradually takes a twist when introducing their pornographer. A late '30 year old guy, who during the day time works as a pathologist. From there on everything is death. The film seem to be a free continuance of the director's '94 docu " Not angels, but angels". Some of the individuals also star in the '96 feature.
Body without soul, trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBpv9YS_pd4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBpv9YS_pd4)
Not Angels But Angels, trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThQS_Oyejj8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThQS_Oyejj8)
watch the movie version MANDRAGORA if you haven't already. perfection.
i remember watching "100% white" when it was on tv.
powerful stuff
this one, nay?
http://documentaryaddict.com/100+Percent+White-11485-documentary.html
Quote from: tiny_tove on November 29, 2013, 10:44:33 AM
watch the movie version MANDRAGORA if you haven't already. perfection.
Thanx! Never came across this one before. Potential.
I'm very surprised that no one's brought up "The Iceman Interviews", given the nature of this forum. Despite HBO's sensationalist narration, the interviews with Richard Kuklinski are pretty fucking mind-blowing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXgi72W2H7U
There was a followup doc called "The Iceman Tapes", which I seem to remember being slightly better.
Just watched "My Brother the Serial Killer" about Glen Rogers:
http://investigation.discovery.com/tv-shows/id-films/videos/glens-first-crime.htm
Rogers is, possibly, the killer of OJ Simpson's wife & her male friend:
http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/20/justice/o-j-simpson-film-claim/index.html
Rogers took up painting while on Florida death row but I can't find any of the work online that is shown in the documentary. According to the owner of the art in the docu., there's hidden details about murder victims.
This one I think have potential. Haven't seen the film. Just the trailer and read some articles.
Cousin Jules (1973)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiYz1Gc90kA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiYz1Gc90kA)
two good films about old school new york city gangs savage skulls and savage nomads:
80 Blocks From Tiffany's
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDb8Nr_gVcw
and
Flyin' Cut Sleeves
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKbqGNtkIsM
beautiful visions of the past. a vibrant city life that's dead now...
Quote from: l.b. on December 12, 2013, 03:16:16 AM
two good films about old school new york city gangs savage skulls and savage nomads:
80 Blocks From Tiffany's
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDb8Nr_gVcw
A friend just recommended this one to me. Looks very promising.
Just finished watching The Ballad of Genesis and Lady Jaye.
Hookers at the Point, prostitution in Hunt's Point in, as far as I can tell, late 80s/early 90s? Lots of good moments of them talking about cutting up cocks and stuff for money.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmoEXtCvXBM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmoEXtCvXBM)
Why isn't forum buzzing about how awesome Eternal Flame of Gehenna documentary about Finnish black metal scene and Noise of Finland about Finnish noise scene are? I've watched these just now in order to slightly lighten up my hangover, but had to get some whiskey to go with Azazel's talking and sipping from a nice mug. Bestial Burst, Freak Animal etc. should have copies. Don't miss this.
ps. I was not paid for this post.
Indeed, was just wondering this myself. Undoubtedly the best BM document for my taste. It's refreshing to hear unashamedly anti-Jew, Muslim and Antifa comments in a Black Metal documentary for once instead of just the usual safe anti-Christian spiel. Those Finns definitely "keep it real" in all regards. And Lord Satanachia certainly makes a memorable impression! Only disappointment was no Ride for Revenge, but perhaps that's modesty on director's behalf... Of course the accompanying Noise of Finland is obviously a must-see for any fan of Finnish noise/PE. Aside from the usual suspects, good to see acts like Golden Rain and Manic/Depression included as well.
The Olympics have started & no one but no one cares about Finland!
Industrial Soundtrack For The Urban DecayQuoteIndustrial Soundtrack For The Urban Decay traces the origins of Industrial music, taking you on a journey through the crumbling industrial cities of Europe to America's thriving avant-garde scene.
Release date: late 2014
Trailer: http://vimeo.com/86841887 (http://vimeo.com/86841887)
Quote from: ghoulson on May 27, 2013, 10:27:43 AM
Last week I got "The Cambodian Room: Situations with Antoine D'Agata" DVD. I enjoyed it a lot but it felt like the possibilities of a documentary dealing with D'Agata was restrained by the limited and reserved nature of the journalist team. Still it had many good moments and is absolutely worth the money.
Watched this one two days ago. Exactly my thoughts and impressions. Have to watch it again soon. I wish the film would be twice as long!
Is Aka Ana worth seeing without understanding French/Japanese? Are there any recommended books from D'Agata in English or is it not that important because it's mostly about the art/photography?
went to see an impressive exhibition of him (Anticorpi) in Milan last year in a gallery situated two blocks away from my gf's.
wall sized pictures of despair and debauchery... I felt like having an HIV test after I left the venue... Very intense and moving...
Aka Ana is one of the most powerful "art films" I've seen. If you manage to get your hands on this - see it. You will not regret it. For me it is the atmosphere / visuals that's important in his works. Few days ago I had discussion with a friend on this and we came to conclusion that problem is he is often trying to explain (and excuse) everything instead of just going head first into the filth and depravity. Extraordinary photographer however. I guess he needs to justify what he is doing in order to get funding for the projects. I don't know really...
Narco Cultura:
Last night I watched this documentary about drug cartel pop culture. Think many people on SI board would appreciate this.
"For Mexicans and Latinos in the Americas, there is no music more popular today than narcocorridos. These bloodthirsty and explicit odes to the exploits of narco traffickers and drug lords of Mexico openly glorify violence, narcotics and money. Like gangsta rap in the nineties, "Narco" is a movement threatening to burst into the mainstream.
Featuring powerful footage from the front lines of the drug wars and performances from some of the hottest Narcocorrido artists (including El Komander and Buknas de Culiacan) NARCO CULTURA takes viewers behind the scenes of the most explosive and violent music subculture in America."
BBC docu:
Shoreditch: Experimental Music School (1969)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsigOnPJTtA#t=1281 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsigOnPJTtA#t=1281)
Sketches of Frank Gehry (Sydney Pollack, 2005)
Docu on architect Gehry. More info: http://www.artificial-eye.com/film.php?dvd=ART356DVD&plugs&qt=true&wm=false (http://www.artificial-eye.com/film.php?dvd=ART356DVD&plugs&qt=true&wm=false)
Trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8jk9pCEtes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8jk9pCEtes)
Saw this on TV some years ago. Re-watch this weekend. Recommended.
discovered his work with his exhibition in Milan 3/4 years ago... impressive,
TERROR's ADVOCATE (L'avocat de la terreur) directed by Barbet Schroeder
interesting documentary about the life of Jacques Vergès
controversial figure close to various terrorist movements.
He was advocate and personal friend of Pol Pot , Klaus Barbie, Magdalena Kopp and clan Baader Meinhof and a lot of people considered "villains" by society
Quote from: ANDROPHILIA on March 23, 2014, 10:36:32 PM
TERROR's ADVOCATE (L'avocat de la terreur) directed by Barbet Schroeder
interesting documentary about the life of Jacques Vergès
controversial figure close to various terrorist movements.
He was advocate and personal friend of Pol Pot , Klaus Barbie, Magdalena Kopp and clan Baader Meinhof and a lot of people considered "villains" by society
Second this!
@ Tiny Tove. That is an exhib I would have loved to experience.
Quote from: hkso on March 06, 2014, 10:43:52 PM
Aka Ana is one of the most powerful "art films" I've seen. If you manage to get your hands on this - see it. You will not regret it. For me it is the atmosphere / visuals that's important in his works. Few days ago I had discussion with a friend on this and we came to conclusion that problem is he is often trying to explain (and excuse) everything instead of just going head first into the filth and depravity. Extraordinary photographer however. I guess he needs to justify what he is doing in order to get funding for the projects. I don't know really.[/i]
Finally managed to get Aka Ana on DVD via Amazon, and you're right, I definitely won't regret it! Sorry, I'm not good at describing or reviewing, but what comes to my mind is something like this: "Under your skin nakedness."
Any one seen the docu I AM DIVINE yet?
Trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUF3w0M_e7U (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUF3w0M_e7U)
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http://forestofthedancingspirits.com/ (http://forestofthedancingspirits.com/)
Docu about the yaka/mbendjele tribes in Congo. Interesting theme and lush executuion. Very good cinematography.
Andres Veiel – Black Box BRD (2001)
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http://worldscinema.org/2014/10/andres-veiel-black-box-brd-2001/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+CinemaOfTheWorld+%28Cinema+of+the+World%29 (http://worldscinema.org/2014/10/andres-veiel-black-box-brd-2001/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+CinemaOfTheWorld+%28Cinema+of+the+World%29)
"This documentary is highly recommended, as it somewhat manages to keep a neutral point of view on this most controversial issue of post war german history.
Quote:
This documentary by German filmmaker Andres Veiel takes a look back at German politics of the '70s and '80s, a troubled era when the government was engaged in a war against the leftist movement known as the Red Army Fraction. The conflict is addressed by focusing on the lives and deaths of two men whose fates became tragically intertwined in 1989. Alfred Herrenhausen was a high-ranking member of the Deutsche Bank who was killed by a Red Army Fraction bomb attack. Wolfgang Grams, a radical activist, was a major suspect in the attack. Four years later, he was tracked down by police and killed. Through interviews with relatives, friends, and colleagues of both men, a clear picture of the times emerges. While the film makes no attempts to place blame or assign guilt, it does raise many questions about German politics today. ~ Connor McMadden, All Movie Guide".
Nick Drake docu:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrmR_F5XgwQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrmR_F5XgwQ)
The Bridge
THE ACT OF KILLING
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2375605/
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Not only one of the sickest movies I ever watched, but one of the most bizarre experiences of watching a movie ... during the whole playtime you are in a position where you don`t know whether to laugh or to be in a state of shock. Is the absurd nature of the film relativising everything or are we simply insensitive since we consume violence on a daily basis? Reality and play in a constant rotation ... Directed by Joshua Oppenheimer, produced by Werner Herzog. Highly recommended!
This is one of the BEST documentaries ever.
One of the very few that gets far beyond the hype. And has a weird sense of entertainment that still chill my spine.
Everybody should watch this.
The ACT OF KILLING is a piece of work. Second TT recommendations. Mandatory watch. The level of reenactment (and enjoyment from involved parties) is at horrifying levels. Purely sickiening.
From here, let's go into another alleyway. Namely - Arakimentari. I guess many of you have already seen this film about the Japanese photographer Araki - born to fame for his mixture of art, history and pornography. A recommended and fun watch.
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Film: http://vimeo.com/88453989 (http://vimeo.com/88453989)
Get I feeling some you will want to see Rubble Kings http://www.docnyc.net/film/rubble-kings/#.VGTPkr52JZJ
NORTH AMERICAN PREMIERE Confronting a bankrupt, decaying city and the dashed hopes of the civil rights generation, African-American and Latino teenagers violently took over the streets of 1970s New York. The South Bronx became a war zone ruled by gangs like the Savage Skulls and the Ghetto Brothers. Hypnotic archival footage and present-day interviews with former gang members reveal how peace was brokered at the peak of the bloodshed in a most unlikely manner, laying the foundation for what ultimately became hip-hop culture.
https://vimeo.com/109054520
We have a free showing of our doc Test Site this weekend. 48 hours free stream.
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http://www.solarisfilm.se/portfolio/test-site/
It Came from Kuchar
Docu on filmmakers George and Mike Kuchar.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwZoUX3CxXE&list=PLkZups0OQn0YGx10tqMlW1WwJh-SHrGof&index=2 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwZoUX3CxXE&list=PLkZups0OQn0YGx10tqMlW1WwJh-SHrGof&index=2)
Quote from: Strömkarlen on November 13, 2014, 05:38:09 PM
Get I feeling some you will want to see Rubble Kings http://www.docnyc.net/film/rubble-kings/#.VGTPkr52JZJ
NORTH AMERICAN PREMIERE Confronting a bankrupt, decaying city and the dashed hopes of the civil rights generation, African-American and Latino teenagers violently took over the streets of 1970s New York. The South Bronx became a war zone ruled by gangs like the Savage Skulls and the Ghetto Brothers. Hypnotic archival footage and present-day interviews with former gang members reveal how peace was brokered at the peak of the bloodshed in a most unlikely manner, laying the foundation for what ultimately became hip-hop culture.
https://vimeo.com/109054520
Excellent
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Death Press IV. More Japanese mondo madness. Not as good as the Death File series but it has it's moments. Plenty of aftermath death's from auto accidents, murder, crashes etc. Got this one for cheap awhile ago and just got around to watching it.
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There's Something Wrong With Aunt Diane. Pretty decent documentary about the case of Diane Schuler driving the wrong way on the Taconic State Parkway killing a bunch of people including herself. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2011325/
The Shankill Butchers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gol0DWHN5kQ
The Troubles:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSb_XhN2L6s
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on March 22, 2015, 01:59:10 AM
The Shankill Butchers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gol0DWHN5kQ
VERY interesting case, discovered by chance reading about the limits between politics and serial murder.
I have a really nice book on the subject with plenty of pictures.
THE DECENT ONE (Der Anständige)
Heinrich Himmler has gone down in history as one of the most evil minds to have ever lived due to his role as the key architect of the 'Final Solution'.
Until now, little has been known about his personal life but using recently discovered letters between Himmler and his wife, this startling documentary peels back a layer of mystery from the infamous figure.
Vanessa Lapa reveals the stark contrast between the truth and its intentional shrouding by providing narration of Himmler's correspondence overlaid upon footage of the grim reality.
Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuqgHir41gk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuqgHir41gk)
http://nsmb.com/rider-wolf/
Documentary about an early pioneer of mountain biking who vanished into thin air. Possible true crime mixed with riding mountain bikes.
http://www.gritandthistle.com/films/the-rider-the-wolf/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVZi8zuJExo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVZi8zuJExo)
"Butoh is like a virus spreading across the world".
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on April 21, 2015, 01:34:06 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVZi8zuJExo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVZi8zuJExo)
"Butoh is like a virus spreading across the world".
Highly recommended feature !
There's a good 3 part BBC documentaries called 'The Detectives' which focuses on detectives specially trained for sexual offensive cases. It deals with some smaller crimes across the series but mainly focuses on the investigation, trial and conviction of Ray Teret.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b05wh973/the-detectives-1-manhunt
It's on iplayer now but I'm sure there are ways for non-UK people to watch it.
It's all on YouTube. Part three was particularly interesting.
I'm watching the Detectives series based on this thread suggestions. It's definitely rad. It creeps me out too because I lived in Manchester for two years and worked in most of the areas they show in the documentaries. I know exactly where the estate of the rapist they arrest in episode 2 is, I might even have delivered some stuff to his place or neighbours, hah. It's kind of weird. It's like the day I discovered that this odd place that always intrigued me on Wardle Brook Avenue in Hattersley (where I also went from time to time) was where Ian Brady's house (of the Moors Murders fame) was located. Definitely creepy.
Quote from: online prowler on April 21, 2015, 03:42:12 PM
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on April 21, 2015, 01:34:06 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVZi8zuJExo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVZi8zuJExo)
"Butoh is like a virus spreading across the world".
Highly recommended feature !
Although I love Classical Ballet I despise 99% of contemporary dance (I fucking hate Pina Bausch), but Butoh is something completely different, alien and amazing. Excellent documentary, thanks!
There are many pathetic attempts to imitate it from Occidental dancers where the only valuable element (nudity) is never enough to make it worth of attention. they should get a real job.
White punks on dope.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W41hqNa7874 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W41hqNa7874)
classic!
i used fragments of that for my live actions background video.
I love the part with the nerdy looking girl
The one who was in prison? Because she's been writing about her experiences and doing her own videos on YouTube and so forth.
yes!
please post address!
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDVY25frC92dFe4p2HE-Isw (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDVY25frC92dFe4p2HE-Isw)
http://www.traceyh415.blogspot.com.au/ (http://www.traceyh415.blogspot.com.au/)
QuoteMy father was pimp in New York City for quite some time. During this time, he also had a pretty good drug habit. He said his habit would cost 200-300 a day when he was shooting heroin, and cocaine was part of his daily cocktail. My father was a successful pimp because of his ability to con women into doing whatever he wanted. He had the gift of gab. He could talk a cat off the back of a fish truck. I'm sure he was able to sell his hoes dreams with ease, keeping them on the hook by keepin them hooked. Half dope dealer, half pimp, and 100% smooth talker...he maintained a stable of 3-5 women that always did as they were told.
As a young child I would hear the stories he would tell about New York, as if it was part of a movie he was recalling. I would be fascinated by my fathers stories and they way he would tell them....some kids got bedtime stories before bed, I would get drunken war stories of the pimpin and dope game told to me. Dad would let me stay up with him and he would replay memories to me in such detail while pouring drink after drink. These arent normal things to hear as a 5 year old, and it definitely made me grow up much faster than I should have. But if it wasnt for the game he passed on to me, I wouldnt be who i am today.
Andrew.
You really made my day with this. Many many thanks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZWuZHKXAzk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZWuZHKXAzk)
Apologies if this has already been posted. For me, one of the more disturbing doccos on pedophilia. I particularly was struck by the interview with one of the perpetrators towards the end.
Recently watched "Until The Light Takes Us". Nothing too controversial, can see why a lot of people don't like it. I'm a big fan of Fenriz anyway so it caters to my fanboyness ok.
Watched another BM doc via Vice that centered on Gaahl / Gorgoroth, was a shit doc made by shit people but quite funny.
Saw that "UTLTU" thing in a cinema with a mate of mine who had no idea about Black Metal. He kept banging on about how "amoral" they were. Personally I was bored, I've read "Lords Of Chaos" like anyone else. Darkthrone are a fucking joke.
The docco with Ghaal was better. I liked the bit where they were loosing their breath going up that mountain. Not that I'd do any better but it's funny seeing US hipsters suffer.
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on June 04, 2015, 12:13:09 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZWuZHKXAzk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZWuZHKXAzk)
Apologies if this has already been posted. For me, one of the more disturbing doccos on pedophilia. I particularly was struck by the interview with one of the perpetrators towards the end.
watched this while working yesterday and confirm a must see for anybody in true crime. all stereotypes on the subject are included. interesting when the two sick fucks are interviewed at the end of the documentary and claim to be victims of misguiding elderly men.
"This is making me really uncomfortable."
This is making him really uncomfortable.
This is making him really uncomfortable!
I bet he will be uncomfortable in any decent jail.
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on June 05, 2015, 04:25:26 PM
Saw that "UTLTU" thing in a cinema with a mate of mine who had no idea about Black Metal. He kept banging on about how "amoral" they were. Personally I was bored, I've read "Lords Of Chaos" like anyone else. Darkthrone are a fucking joke.
The docco with Ghaal was better. I liked the bit where they were loosing their breath going up that mountain. Not that I'd do any better but it's funny seeing US hipsters suffer.
Completely disagree about Darkthrone but definitely also enjoyed the toil of the Vice hipsters.
HOT GIRLS WANTED
Quite recent document about "pro-amateur" xxx models. Like always, it's sort of moralist study of young womens bad choices. Teen chicks smoking weed and dreaming to be famous. Being facefucked to point of mental trauma or family issues being dealt in front of camera crew like shittiest reality tv.
Fuck. I guess it is the attention whores and people plagued by problems who'll be in focus of media. Would be nicer to see interviews with people who matter. Not the fuckholes, but those who are creative force, not the dysfunctional cases of hired faces.
death is their destiny , the home movies of london punks
http://dangerousminds.net/comments/death_is_their_destiny_home_movies_of_london_punks_1978_81
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPRVBxPwJNg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPRVBxPwJNg)
Everyone comes to the Freak Show
To laugh at the Freaks and the Geeks
Everyone comes to the Freak Show
But nobody laughs when they leave
a must see on the subject:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwII2Pv7rAg
"But even though you are now a so-called 'normal person', in your own lifetime you could become a human oddity, a freak of nature. And if you doubt that statement go visit a veteran's hospital and see the men lying in those beds, without arms, without legs, without faces! Stranger human oddities than we dare present in this show! But you don't have to go to war to become a freak of nature, to become a human oddity. Because we manufacture human oddities every day and night across in automobile accidents across this great land. Ladies and gentlemen, it's show time right now. We're ready to start. So if you care to go, don't wait. Now is the time.
Let's go see what the world contains besides yourself."
I'm looking for a good documentary about the Haitian voodoo. Do you have any recommendations?
Quote from: ANDROPHILIA on June 10, 2015, 09:00:53 PM
I'm looking for a good documentary about the Haitian voodoo. Do you have any recommendations?
Maya Deren's Divine Horsemen.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YIO_dxyJio (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YIO_dxyJio)
super classic!
I'll check if I have something else on the subject. Did in depth research on the subject when writing my second story fo Martin Mystere, for sure try to look for the interviews to Wade Davis done in the 90's/ early 2000's. IT has a more ethno-botanologist (not sure it is written like this) approach, but very interesting.
for books on the subject you may wanna refer to Primordia bookshop in Italy.
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on June 06, 2015, 03:25:15 PM
HOT GIRLS WANTED
Quite recent document about "pro-amateur" xxx models. Like always, it's sort of moralist study of young womens bad choices. Teen chicks smoking weed and dreaming to be famous. Being facefucked to point of mental trauma or family issues being dealt in front of camera crew like shittiest reality tv.
Fuck. I guess it is the attention whores and people plagued by problems who'll be in focus of media. Would be nicer to see interviews with people who matter. Not the fuckholes, but those who are creative force, not the dysfunctional cases of hired faces.
I had some fun watching this documentary last weekend... Silly mentally underdeveloped 19 year olds hoping to do porn for years to come and be famous. Interesting to see footage of the house these girls stay at while shooting porn/'modeling'. Obviously loved the ties to facial abuse...
Other docs I've watched recently that I didn't think were a waste of my time:
Tricked - seemed to be a focus on the pimps of the sex industry
Whores' Glory - bangledesh prostitutes are bold bitches
Bridgend - high suicide rate via hanging in wales
Little Hope Was Arson - watched this twice! still wondering how/why it wasn't american bm kids doing the burnings instead...
Quote from: Felicia Gaggins on June 11, 2015, 10:58:02 PM
Little Hope Was Arson - watched this twice! still wondering how/why it wasn't american bm kids doing the burnings instead...
what a disappointing film. lots of build up and pathos-laden "a church is not just a building" blah blah blah and then the two guys that did it are either brain dead or too ashamed to say anything of substance about the actual burnings
Quote from: Felicia Gaggins on June 11, 2015, 10:58:02 PMInteresting to see footage of the house these girls stay at while shooting porn/'modeling'. Obviously loved the ties to facial abuse...
It's amusing that guy says he was bullied in school, but "look at me now, I got car, money and big house". Jeesus. Car appears expensive, but at least what we see from the house, is like 3 rooms, where one has beds for girls. One has couple couches and TV. All blank walls. Even random hotel room would display more personality. Guy appears equally interesting as his house and car. All one can see is utter blank.
This made my day
I was ronald mcdonald
http://www.theguardian.com/news/video/2015/jul/06/i-was-ronald-mcdonald-video
The Brain: A Secret History
This three part series is a fascinating look at the history of our understanding of the brain. I have just watched the third part which looks at people who have had the two hemispheres of their brains split (in one case it was to stop the patient's debilitating epilepsy. The two halves of her brain are at war with each other. One hand buttons up her shirt while the other hand unbuttons it. She picks up a phone to speak to someone and the other hand will hang up. It also looks at the real life Memento case of a man who had an accident which caused epilepsy and a fuck wit doctor of the time decided to remove a bit of his brain to see what happened which left he unable to create new memories. The history of surgery is a very dark place.
It's on BBC iplayer at the moment though I'm sure you can find it online somewhere else. There's also quite a good 5 part documentary about the Metropolitan police force called The Met: Policing London
Quote from: Si Clark on July 07, 2015, 02:27:41 AM
The Brain: A Secret History
Was impressed with it myself when I saw it. Rougue surgeons are always interesting...
Fucking BLEAK:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lY4eHaiVK9s
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0240641/
"Just, Melvin: Just Evil"
Silly title, but it's a hypnotizing example of affliction, along the lines of Capturing The Friedmans.
Quote from: Peterson on July 15, 2015, 09:03:38 AM
Fucking BLEAK:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lY4eHaiVK9s
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0240641/
"Just, Melvin: Just Evil"
Silly title, but it's a hypnotizing example of affliction, along the lines of Capturing The Friedmans.
never heard of this one, but looks like an... interesting watch. thanks. i absolutely loved "capturing the friedmans."
Quote from: Peterson on July 15, 2015, 09:03:38 AM
Fucking BLEAK:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lY4eHaiVK9s
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0240641/
"Just, Melvin: Just Evil"
Silly title, but it's a hypnotizing example of affliction, along the lines of Capturing The Friedmans.
Yeah, that's a good one. I first saw it with Sickness at the Self Abuse headquarters. I'd never heard of it before & later had S.A. dub a copy for me (I may still have it).
Quote from: Peterson on July 15, 2015, 09:03:38 AM
Fucking BLEAK:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lY4eHaiVK9s
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0240641/
"Just, Melvin: Just Evil"
Silly title, but it's a hypnotizing example of affliction, along the lines of Capturing The Friedmans.
absolutely killer film! one of my favorites. similar in bleakness (not sure if mentioned already) is
The Trouble With Evan https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2EU_2wK5LE
evan seems like a fuck up at first but then you get into the parents...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRObgttIyeg&feature=youtu.be
60 minutes Australia - Westminster UK - high level child abuse exposé
Kid Criminals, Season 1, Episode 1: "America's Youngest Sex Offenders."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fdf6O-qp_Ms
Not even 15m. in, and it's one of the better docs I've seen in quite a while. Did community service with a few juvie SOs as a kid.
Documentary about an obscure (at least for me) Indonesian noise scene + interview.
http://noisey.vice.com/blog/indonesias-insane-noise-scene (http://noisey.vice.com/blog/indonesias-insane-noise-scene)
'Cartel Land':
http://cartellandmovie.com/
It aired on the A&E channel last night.
The Nightmare anno 2015.
Sleep paralysis.
Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoPsjWqvwT4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoPsjWqvwT4)
Worth a watch:
Winter On Fire: Ukraine's Fight for Freedom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RibAQHeDia8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RibAQHeDia8)
Pervert Park:
http://weshare.me/251a9febae611738 (http://weshare.me/251a9febae611738)
Doc about sex offenders living in a group trailer park... for fans of this kind of material...
Quote from: totalabuse on January 15, 2016, 02:16:48 AM
Pervert Park:
http://weshare.me/251a9febae611738 (http://weshare.me/251a9febae611738)
Doc about sex offenders living in a group trailer park... for fans of this kind of material...
Excellent, thank you. Astute excerpt: "That's a testament to how desperate they are to keep the sex offender machine going. The real offenders are the families. They're not reporting anything."
Not to be a progressive warrior for SOs, but here's another interesting piece along the same lines:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebjD1r4e9-4
There's some good related programs also from Our America/Lisa Ling, including some follow-ups with interviewees:
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=lisa+ling+sex+offenders&page=&utm_source=opensearch
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Just watched the first in a four parts series on BBC iplayer called 'The Brain with David Eagleman'. Looking at how the brain functions, I find stuff like this fascinating. Also saw one on there about honey badgers which I had never heard of before but are now my favourite animal as they are about the size of a medium dog but start fights with rhinos and lions just for fun.
Short one on Peste Noire, fresh out of the oven.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zw-pIwRXNcw
Quote from: KMusselman on March 01, 2016, 09:27:02 PM
Just watched three Heroin documentaries:
Heroin: Cape Cod, USA
http://www.hbo.com/documentaries/heroin-cape-cod-usa
Chasing Heroin
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/chasing-heroin/
Heroin The Hardest Drug
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQX7bdR_mD0
A classic on the subject - you may already know this one:
Black Tar Heroin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XfP58clo1I
I'm surprised that Streetwise (1984) hasn't been mentioned.
It's about kids who hustle, prostitute and/or live on the streets of seattle.
There's a book with photographs of the same kids by Mary Ellen Mark, her husband made the documentary.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lTQgfXb87k&ab_channel=SecretCaskets
It's worth it to look for a better version than this.
Quote from: Peterson on May 18, 2016, 02:24:45 AM
"The Gift," a 2003 documentary about bug chasing, a.k.a., gays who actually desire HIV infection, is bleak, depressing, and amazing all at once. Goes great with Forza Albino! I think it's easily available to see in full on YouTube. I think FreakAnimal or someone once used the phrase "nihilistic deathfuck" once on this board, Nihilistic Deathfuck indeed! I really appreciate the total lack of positive resolution or conclusions, just increasingly desperate reflections of inner emptiness and waiting for the inevitable.
Thank you for information on this documentary. It was really interesting subject matter. The actual documentary is appallingly made, like the director just discovered the use of split screen technology but listening to the people talk is fine, visually it's terrible.
Interesting, I didn't know she was murdered by Gary Ridgeway.
Thanks for the link, i'll check it out.
As far as i remember there's a lot of material from Streetwise on Peter Sotos' Buyers Market.
This might interest some people here. I liked it well enough. The pursuit of fame and legacy almost always strikes me as more deviant and crude than anything else about a person, particularly when it comes to someone who succeeded at gaining those things through outside means. Strikes me as impure and convoluted...not sincere...or something.
http://www.hbo.com/documentaries/mapplethorpe-look-at-the-pictures
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M07r4WpKkAA
this document recently caused some stirs in the Uk
Not very edgy or industrial but the BBC Clash doc is excellent.
What is amazing is how they sew together scant amount of Clash footage with a bunch of BBC vault b roll footage of new years eve celebrations and talk shows. Along with some contemporary historical footage. The sum is greater than the whole.
It could be about hammers or 3 legged stools or anything really.
But if you are a Clash fan (or early punk fan) it's probably pretty good.
thought the amanda knox documentary was ok. not great. there's something really annoying about her that i can't quite pinpoint. i don't think she did any murders tho. the prosecutor guy was an idiot. and the daily mail journalist guy was dumb too.
"getting my foxy knoxy stories on the front page was better then sex!"
"it doesn't get any better than girl on girl murder!"
about to watch this documentary called Tickled about the apparently sinister world of competitive tickling.
yeah i liked it.
ultimately feel kind of sorry for the villain of the piece, in that there's something essentially harmless that they get their kicks from, but they've made some pretty poor decisions in how they pursue it.
Quote from: aububs on October 04, 2016, 10:25:13 PM
there's something really annoying about her that i can't quite pinpoint.
It's the cold face of a junkie slut who tries to introduce herself as virgin Mary. That's it.
no, that's not it.
it's more like she has a lack of empathy, and is unable to see herself from an outside perspective. something like that.
well she made her bed and died in it. and probably is she would have not been American she would be still rotting in Jail - although I don't know if she is guilty
I know that for a non-experienced criminal the pressure cops push on you can lead to different versions, BUT she really made up so many stories. before her conviction she framed another guy who had nothing to do with the murder and almost got his life ruined, to then change story several times.
I watched Holy Hell a couple of days ago and it has really stuck with me. Despite being very American and feel good in places it remains a very jolting portrait of a cult leader who is still out there. Very interesting to see the effects of 20+ years of psychological trickery discussed and presented candidly by the participants. worth a watch for sure. Loads of 1980s luminous speedos and haircuts too.
Quote from: tiny_tove on October 05, 2016, 01:59:14 PM
well she made her bed and died in it. and probably is she would have not been American she would be still rotting in Jail - although I don't know if she is guilty
I know that for a non-experienced criminal the pressure cops push on you can lead to different versions, BUT she really made up so many stories. before her conviction she framed another guy who had nothing to do with the murder and almost got his life ruined, to then change story several times.
does this relate to tickled or amandaknox?
funny that someone who seems so innocent, also seems so connected to something that broadcasted her guilt.
Knox was punished for not adhering to the cops' retarded view of womanhood. There is an incredible bit in the film where the lead investigator relates a completely speculative conversation in which Knox is taken to task for her loose morals before the murder takes place. There is no evidence that conversation happened - although it is a good metaphor for the media coverage during the trial.
I thought "Tickled" was an incredible film that had a lot of resonance with some of the psychological aspects of power electronics at its best.
The new Louis Theroux documentary about Jimmy Savile is worth a look. The main theme is basically him beating himself up for not figuring out Savile was a rapist when he was hanging out with him (but also trying to salve his conscience by talking to people who still defend Savile, like his former PA).
There are some upsetting interviews with some of Savile's victims, whose stoicism and articulacy is inspiring.
hah yeah that is very true about Tickled, hadn't thought of that.
and yeah the lead prosecutor in the Knox case was an absolute moron. very dangerous when you give morons positions of power like that (we'll never learn). and he's displayed his ineptitude in the past too, if you look up his invovlement in the Monster of Florence case. he basically comes up with these crazy unsubstantiated theories and ruins people's lives, as a policy.
Quote from: eraciator on October 08, 2016, 10:47:57 AM
The new Louis Theroux documentary about Jimmy Savile is worth a look. The main theme is basically him beating himself up for not figuring out Savile was a rapist when he was hanging out with him (but also trying to salve his conscience by talking to people who still defend Savile, like his former PA).
There are some upsetting interviews with some of Savile's victims, whose stoicism and articulacy is inspiring.
I like Louis Theroux, but thought this was a bit of a miss. Probably a good idea to re-visit, but it leaned a bit too much on the contemplative "interludes" for me. Felt very much like a conscience-easing exercise and his many reminders of "I didn't notice, honest" I found a little hard to swallow.
Quote from: martialgodmask on October 08, 2016, 11:09:23 AM
Quote from: eraciator on October 08, 2016, 10:47:57 AM
The new Louis Theroux documentary about Jimmy Savile is worth a look. The main theme is basically him beating himself up for not figuring out Savile was a rapist when he was hanging out with him (but also trying to salve his conscience by talking to people who still defend Savile, like his former PA).
There are some upsetting interviews with some of Savile's victims, whose stoicism and articulacy is inspiring.
I like Louis Theroux, but thought this was a bit of a miss. Probably a good idea to re-visit, but it leaned a bit too much on the contemplative "interludes" for me. Felt very much like a conscience-easing exercise and his many reminders of "I didn't notice, honest" I found a little hard to swallow.
this programme was a difficult one. either you accept Theroux's position or ignorance/innocence or not.
whatever, savile will become a UK bogeyman alongside Hindley, Brady, Sutcliffe, Nilsen etc.
despite all appearances on TV going missing , there will be appearances galore to excite/repulse.
Quote from: KMusselman on October 16, 2016, 02:51:00 AM
You Have Nothing to Worry About
documentary photography
http://www.melissaspitz.com/you-have-nothing-to-worry-about/3rsdgn5plspczwhdvnovwgvn2bujin
as a mental health professional, have seen this loads of times, but as advocate for reality, show it again for new people to see.
Quote from: KMusselman on November 15, 2016, 02:10:15 AM
just set up the DVR to record this
http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/mars/
as far as this shot goes, BBC rules...
Dunblane: Our Story
Twenty years ago Thomas Hamilton walked into Dunblane primary school, murdered 16 five-year-olds and their teacher, then killed himself.
Maybe interesting for those of you whom read Sotos' Predicate.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b072ww59 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b072ww59)
Quote from: online prowler on December 03, 2016, 01:07:34 PM
Dunblane: Our Story
Twenty years ago Thomas Hamilton walked into Dunblane primary school, murdered 16 five-year-olds and their teacher, then killed himself.
Maybe interesting for those of you whom read Sotos' Predicate.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b072ww59 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b072ww59)
possibly so but according to I player, not currently available
Quote from: david lloyd jones on December 03, 2016, 02:28:45 PM
Quote from: online prowler on December 03, 2016, 01:07:34 PM
Dunblane: Our Story
Twenty years ago Thomas Hamilton walked into Dunblane primary school, murdered 16 five-year-olds and their teacher, then killed himself.
Maybe interesting for those of you whom read Sotos' Predicate.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b072ww59 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b072ww59)
possibly so but according to I player, not currently available
Check for torrrents.
Yesterday evening I watched 'Jack London : American Original' on TV, I think it was related to the 100th anniversary of his death on Nov. 22.
Quite good and he was for sure an interesting character. Don't remember all of the details though, because John Barleycorn paid a visit since early afternoon...;)
Just watched "Nazi Pop Twins" from 2007. A doc about Prussian Blue.
When I downloaded the torrent, it also came with "Louis Theroux - Louis And The Nazis (2003)".
Both are exceptional. Apologies if these have been mentioned previously.
I'm a fan of most of Theroux's stuff so this was a real treat and the Prussian Blue doc gets creepy with the mom at points.
Recommended!
Quote from: .:Will:. on December 29, 2016, 09:26:53 AM
Just watched "Nazi Pop Twins" from 2007. A doc about Prussian Blue.
When I downloaded the torrent, it also came with "Louis Theroux - Louis And The Nazis (2003)".
Both are exceptional. Apologies if these have been mentioned previously.
I'm a fan of most of Theroux's stuff so this was a real treat and the Prussian Blue doc gets creepy with the mom at points.
Recommended!
Nice. Didn't know about the doc, need to see it. The Louis Theroux stuff is always interesting.
BBC iplayer has some good documentaries in their Storyville season including - 'Zero Days-Nuclear cyber sabotage' which is superb and about the Stuxnet cyber weapon that was sent out to destroy Iranian nuclear reactors.
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71UZsaVkzhL._SX342_.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sr_RaCM-1ug
Quote from: ANDROPHILIA on January 25, 2017, 10:10:06 PM
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71UZsaVkzhL._SX342_.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sr_RaCM-1ug
forgotten about this and never tracked it down originally.
likely DVD available.
ADAM CURTIS
HyperNormalisation (2016).
https://archive.org/details/HyperNormalisation (https://archive.org/details/HyperNormalisation)
assume this is both docu and butthurt thread
meant to actually post this link for the BBC Clash doc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_HszocRxSg
I think this is Julien Temple? IMDB disagrees, but there are other sources which say it is him.
http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-30641500
Tickled
Highly recommended!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRRJF_nkIBE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRRJF_nkIBE)
Quote from: online prowler on February 02, 2017, 09:53:09 PM
Tickled
Highly recommended!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRRJF_nkIBE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRRJF_nkIBE)
First documentary I've seen that really put me on the edge of seat. The ending sort of leaves you hanging. but I'm sure some internet research would answer some questions.
Quote from: a_2_g_2 on February 06, 2017, 04:59:32 PM
Quote from: online prowler on February 02, 2017, 09:53:09 PM
Tickled
Highly recommended!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRRJF_nkIBE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRRJF_nkIBE)
First documentary I've seen that really put me on the edge of seat. The ending sort of leaves you hanging. but I'm sure some internet research would answer some questions.
It plunges the depths of the web and the darker recesses of porn production for sure!
Several weeks ago I bought 'Encounters at the End of the World' and 'Happy People: A Year in the Taiga' by Werner Herzog. Wasn't in the right mood to watch them since. Maybe this evening I'll give them a chance.
Interesting little look into the world view of a very disturbed individual.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLVuu5AbII4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLVuu5AbII4)
Quote from: cr on April 09, 2017, 06:14:04 PM
Several weeks ago I bought 'Encounters at the End of the World' and 'Happy People: A Year in the Taiga' by Werner Herzog. Wasn't in the right mood to watch them since. Maybe this evening I'll give them a chance.
You need to get in the mood to watch Happy People ASAP! One of the best documentaries I can imagine, the conditions these folks live and thrive in are a testament against the modern world to say the least.
Quote from: Peterson on April 21, 2017, 09:07:01 PM
Quote from: cr on April 09, 2017, 06:14:04 PM
Several weeks ago I bought 'Encounters at the End of the World' and 'Happy People: A Year in the Taiga' by Werner Herzog. Wasn't in the right mood to watch them since. Maybe this evening I'll give them a chance.
You need to get in the mood to watch Happy People ASAP! One of the best documentaries I can imagine, the conditions these folks live and thrive in are a testament against the modern world to say the least.
Yeah, still haven't watched it. Thanks for reminding me!
Taking advantage of being a big city boy I went to the WORLD PREMIER of the new mentors movie.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OErUxNGwhtc&feature=youtu.be
Several laughs and good archival footage.
the festival this was held at is lady themed this year and I have to say GOOD JOB CUNT
LIVE NASA FROM THE ISS SPACE STATION:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtU_mdL2vBM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtU_mdL2vBM)
"The Allins". G.G. Allin documentary: https://www.dr.dk/tv/se/the-allins-dfi/-/en-helvedes-familie-punk-pis-og-overdoser#!
Quote from: KMusselman on May 23, 2017, 01:24:17 AM
could also be posted in the True Crime thread. started the Docuseries on Netflix, The Keepers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Khr7dbuBjuE
I made a note about The Keepers some days ago. Trailer is interesting. Will try a couple of episodes before I am convinced.
This have potential I think. Japan idol worship.
Tokyo Idols(http://cdn4.thr.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/landscape_928x523/2017/01/tokyo-idols---still-1_30460399204_o-h_2017.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2vfy6S6uiE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2vfy6S6uiE)
Quote from: online prowler on May 23, 2017, 03:37:51 AM
This have potential I think. Japan idol worship.
Tokyo Idols
This looks great, will have to try and track it down.
Quote from: KMusselman on May 23, 2017, 07:16:58 AM
Quote from: online prowler on May 23, 2017, 03:37:51 AM
I made a note about The Keepers some days ago. Trailer is interesting. Will try a couple of episodes before I am convinced.
sorry, i missed it and sorry for the double post...
Not sure if I misunderstand here.... KM... I was referring to a personal note, not a post here in SI.
Si... I agree... haven't found any dvds or torrents yet here. Seems like it's only screening at cinemas for now. Let me know if you find some game though!
Francis Bacon: A Brush with Violence (BBC, 2017)
(http://www.richardcanavan.com/media/Francis-Bacon-1.png)
A portrait about 'the loudest, rudest' drunk and artist, narrated by: intimates, colleagues and cultural vultures. A bit prone to art-world regeneration hype and over-dramatization, but recommended non-the-less. Visceral color quality on shots of works. Can dig his pimpy fashion sense during in his latter days. A bit decadent, yea? Could maybe pass as obnoxious power electronics vocalist?
full fortune:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgrO5za0lSY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgrO5za0lSY)
y-tube dwnlwd via link insertion here: http://keepvid.com/ (http://keepvid.com/)
Also recommended, via ubuweb (stream & dwnlwd ) is the Bacon docu The South Bank Show (1985) by now ITV. Most of you have most probably seen this. Nevertheless: Mandatory viewing and always worth at least an annual re-watch.
ubu:
http://www.ubu.com/film/bacon_south.html
http://www.pbs.org/show/american-epic/
Interesting docu. series about Victor Records venturing into the rest of America to record music from the mountains, farms, etc. in the '20s. There's lots of footage of how the recordings were made in one take straight to vinyl. The second episode is mostly about Charley Patton (the blues) & the first, is about the Carter Family (country music). The second is the best; seems the reason so many blues musicians had such rough singing voices was from yelling at mules in the field all day.
Watched the three first thrills of series THE KEEPERS. Quite good, can recommend it. It keeps getting denser and denser for each running episode.
FALLET KEVIN
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Swedish true crime 3-part 2017 docu. Four year old Kevin is found murdered. The police's investigation points out his two brothers of 5 and 7 years as suspects.
https://tv.nrk.no/serie/saken-kevin/KOID22006017/sesong-1/episode-1 (https://tv.nrk.no/serie/saken-kevin/KOID22006017/sesong-1/episode-1)
THE FAMILY.
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Anne Hamilton-Byrne was beautiful, charismatic and delusional. She was also incredibly dangerous. Convinced she was the reincarnation of Jesus Christ, Hamilton-Byrne headed an apocalyptic sect called The Family, which was prominent in Melbourne from the 1960s through to the 1990s. With her husband Bill, she acquired numerous children – some through adoption scams, some born to cult members – and raised them as her own. Isolated from the outside world, the children were dressed in matching outfits, had identical dyed blonde hair, and were allegedly beaten, starved and injected with LSD. Taught that Hamilton-Byrne was both their mother and the messiah, the children were eventually rescued during a police raid in 1987, but their trauma had only just begun.
https://www.thefamilysect.com/ (https://www.thefamilysect.com/)
I WILL TREASURE YOUR FRIENDSHIP.
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A Youtube singer, obsessed by fame, Photoshops himself into the lives of celebrities and an Australian murder victim.
http://www.swagmanfilms.com/iwilltreasureyourfriendship/ (http://www.swagmanfilms.com/iwilltreasureyourfriendship/)
this is one of the best doc ever done on British prostitution.
Thanx for the heads up.
Watched 2 docs on TV the last days. Tales Of The Grim Sleeper : Is he the biggest trash fucker ever ? 50-100 photos of whores he fucked and maybe killed and i doubt there were more than 2 with "acceptable" look. Trasher than trash ! What's interesting in the doc is how his friends at first tell "I don't believe it, no way, blah, blah" , and later the only thing they don't say is "Yes, i saw him killing them" ! A lot of interviews with whores too. "Yes, i was there but ... i am not a trash" . I have listened this again lately ! Was it in the Neurotic Force tape ? Don't remember. Anyway, best scene is a short, fat, black whore walking the street without pants. Disgusting. Release him now !
Beuys : I am confused about artists, performers like him and about "modern" , conceptual art in general. Some things i like, most i believe are bullshits. The worst is when the artists or critics try to explain those bullshits, saying bigger bullshits that noone understands haha. Well Beuys has a honest answer when he was told that when he speaks he tries to impress so much that it results to nonsense. "Yes, but my life and work shows i am not only that. I have to try to impress, otherwise noone will care" . Also, he has a good reply when asked what he would tell to someone who doesn't understand his sculpture. "To take a spoon and eat it" . At least seems he wasn't boring character.
Quote from: theotherjohn on July 04, 2017, 11:54:08 AM
Just found on YouTube this incredible BBC documentary series called Sex, Drugs and Murder about the UK's only legalised prostitution area in Holbeck, Leeds. Nine parts long and with a running time of 2 and 1/2 hours! The harsh Northern England accents of some of the subjects might be incomprehensible to some (and the autogenerated subtitles don't help either) but either way, this is definitely worth a watch!
Playlist here in correct running order:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLqrkC1T1nQdCQljLL03gPNuACHTaECity
just finished watching.
visually tough and true.
deeply empathic with it's subjects, which, to me reduces this to soap opera, like a lot of recent ' underclass' type documentary.
'benefit street', 'can't pay, we'll take it away', 'love on the dole' etc.
all look at struggle, for cash, for drugs, for dignity etc as fit for watch/comment in a not usually neutral senseto me they quickly go from dispassionate enquiry into value laden pseudo soap.
Yesterday I got DVDs of Tsurisaki Kiyotaka's Junk Films and The Wasteland.
Will possibly watch them during the weekend, if I'm in the right mood.
On the first glimpse Junk Films looks like moving pictures of the books I have.
Quote from: cr on July 14, 2017, 06:07:34 PM
Yesterday I got DVDs of Tsurisaki Kiyotaka's Junk Films and The Wasteland.
Will possibly watch them during the weekend, if I'm in the right mood.
On the first glimpse Junk Films looks like moving pictures of the books I have.
Nice one! Love those!!
Anyone seen The Red Pill ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HK7n_XA40V8
fentanyl seems like the new crack.
monster drug from hell.
difference is fentanyl is a Px med not cooked up
leading to questions re: prescribing etc.pharma companies and doc collusion.
and weak willed people.
Quote from: david lloyd jones on September 04, 2017, 08:17:21 PM
fentanyl seems like the new crack.
monster drug from hell.
difference is fentanyl is a Px med not cooked up
leading to questions re: prescribing etc.pharma companies and doc collusion.
and weak willed people.
I know this is the documentary thread, but still, one of the best books I've read on this topic is "Dreamland" by Sam Quinones. He pulls together how the mexicans from a small state revolutionized the selling of heroin into america which coupled with the rise of prescribing of pain meds has led to this crisis - and the fact the clampdown on abuse in pain med prescriptions pushes people into heroin use. This was written before the surge in use on fentanyl but is still worth a read to understand that this crisis cannot simply be blamed on one part.
I've been meaning to watch Palms / Ладони after i saw a clip of the film over a song by Grazhdanskaya Oborona on youtube. Looks extremely interesting.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0168845/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0168845/)
Hooker (1983)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPZIpUuiOyI
Waco: Madman or Messiah
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt7882076/?ref_=nv_sr_2
Came across this by accident last night - just one episode watched so far but may turn out to be interesting. Seems there is renewed interest in the subject matter.
Quote from: Potier on February 14, 2018, 10:39:55 PM
Waco: Madman or Messiah
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt7882076/?ref_=nv_sr_2
Came across this by accident last night - just one episode watched so far but may turn out to be interesting. Seems there is renewed interest in the subject matter.
Knew it was coming but didn't realize it was already airing. Will wait for the series to finish then binge it. Hope they do a decent job with it.
Nice little doc. about a psychopathic child. Fascinating to see how alive she looks in said state.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9GYExnh1yU&t=1s
Evil Genius on Netflix is a great wee 4-parter about a complicated bank heist from the early 2000s. Lots of great eccentric scumbag types make it a really compelling watch.
I wonder if anyone has any recommendations for GOOD documentaries about aliens- abductions, UFOs, theories, incidents, etc, preferably something with a bit of genuine interest rather than those "10 best UFO footage" affairs from the 90s with grainy blips on the horizon anyone could make with video editing software.
Got done watching Wild, Wild Country recently. 6 (or 7?) part doc on Netflix about the Ranjeeshpuram community. Pretty essential if you like well shot, in depth exposes on cults featuring loads of former members.
What strikes me about having seen it all is how eerily similar the intensity and character of lots of these people are to those you'd see in any other big cult documentary. They have wildly different beliefs but the same kind of neurotic, psychosis is on full display. And like so many other good cult docs you simply couldn't script the drama, violence and batshit internal lunacy that stems from this story.
i watched the first episode of that and then stopped. it seemed really...netflixy
not even sure what i mean by that but just the style and arc of it felt overly familiar and not something i wanted to commit to
but the subject matter is fascinating and sheila seems p righteous even if she is ultimately a deluded cult stooge
maybe i should try again
I know exactly what you mean and I can only say you're totally correct. It's worth watching most of all for the lengthy story but if the style bothers you it'll be something you have try and put up with cos it sure as hell doesn't go away. I didn't watch it especially deeply - was in and out of other stuff taking up focus while it was playing - but I still enjoyed it in spite of/because of the smaller details I missed.
yeah i might go back to it
apologies for the huge image but this tshirt of sheila flipping the bird warrants it i think
https://acidtestrecords.bandcamp.com/merch/acid-kiss-t-shirt (https://acidtestrecords.bandcamp.com/merch/acid-kiss-t-shirt)
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Quote from: NaturalOrthodoxy on May 17, 2018, 08:28:36 PM
Evil Genius on Netflix is a great wee 4-parter about a complicated bank heist from the early 2000s. Lots of great eccentric scumbag types make it a really compelling watch.
I wonder if anyone has any recommendations for GOOD documentaries about aliens- abductions, UFOs, theories, incidents, etc, preferably something with a bit of genuine interest rather than those "10 best UFO footage" affairs from the 90s with grainy blips on the horizon anyone could make with video editing software.
really enjoyed the Evil Genius Doc. I remember when all this happen, I only live an hour away from Erie and it was pretty big news even up here
Soldiers in Hiding - 1985, about vietnam combat vets who, upon returning to the US, decide to live alone in the wilderness instead of rejoining society
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LC4G-JUnMFc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LC4G-JUnMFc)
The Great War pts 1-3 from the American Experience series on PBS has been really good. 5.5 hours or so. It's almost as good as the massive Burns' Vietnam doc. Another war and period in history they didn't bother teaching in school.
Quote from: l.b. on July 13, 2018, 07:06:37 PM
Soldiers in Hiding - 1985, about vietnam combat vets who, upon returning to the US, decide to live alone in the wilderness instead of rejoining society
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LC4G-JUnMFc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LC4G-JUnMFc)
I saw this documentary when I was in my teens and a few flashes apart I had forgotten about it. It's really good to find this again. Thank you!
Turned Out: Sexual Assault Behind Bars (2004)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKbnWW-4K-A (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKbnWW-4K-A)
The Lynyrd Skynyrd doc recently aired is worth watching. I knew nothing about them but the radio hits and my own experience with country boys who worship them (not limited to the South).
zeno, what did you make of the recent greatful dead documentary? i know you ride hard for them and was wondering how it was received by rabid dead fans
i enjoyed it a lot as a document of a time but i'm not sure it explained the huge appeal of their music or the zeal they enjoy from their fanbase. i'm not sure a documentary would even be able to do that for a band like the dead
but it did make me dive into their catalogue and i'm glad for it
Quote from: aububs on August 24, 2018, 08:37:00 PM
zeno, what did you make of the recent greatful dead documentary? i know you ride hard for them and was wondering how it was received by rabid dead fans
i enjoyed it a lot as a document of a time but i'm not sure it explained the huge appeal of their music or the zeal they enjoy from their fanbase. i'm not sure a documentary would even be able to do that for a band like the dead
but it did make me dive into their catalogue and i'm glad for it
What's the title? I haven't been keeping up for a while.
If you, or anyone, is interested in some recommendations, don't hesitate to message me. There are several distinct eras.
it's called Long Strange Trip
it's about 4 hours long, split into episodes. exec produced by martin scorsese
so kind of a "prestige" documentary, as such, and i guess they deserve it
i'd recommend it to everyone but not sure how much seasoned deadheads would glean from it
Ah, right. I have not seen that yet. I haven't read anything disparaging in the GD sites I frequent, but then again, those communities are relatively forgiving. From the experience with the books, you need to read a bunch of them to get a good idea. That's a luxury, though. When there's only a book or two, like with many bands, the fans get real picky. When you have such a riches of documentation, you quickly realize perspective.
Carts of Darkness - 2008, homeless bottle pickers bomb giant fucking hills in Vancouver on shopping carts, its fucking gnarly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zi-f_J6hV-g (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zi-f_J6hV-g)
Quote from: l.b. on August 31, 2018, 06:52:33 AM
Carts of Darkness - 2008, homeless bottle pickers bomb giant fucking hills in Vancouver on shopping carts, its fucking gnarly
Came to know about this one just recently after watching the Icelandic 2002 documentary
Hlemmur, and some site pointed me in the direction of Carts of Darkness in the similar section. Have not yet seen Carts of Darkness, but Hlemmur is a really depressive film about miserably destituted alcoholics, drug addicts, homeless, and whathaveyou, circulating around the central bus station of Reykjavik. Great documentary with a soundtrack from Sigur Rós.
really looking for Sieg Heil Suomi (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-vYvvlGU4E (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-vYvvlGU4E)) with english subtitles. does such a thing exist??
The Color of Noise documentary about Tom Hazelmyer and Amphetamine Reptile Records is a blast to watch (at least if you are into noise rock I guess), lots of cool freaks that deserve their own docs (Cows, Lubricated Goat, God Bullies...). I missed some Helios Creed tho, he just pops up by the end briefly.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4532654/?ref_=nv_sr_1 (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4532654/?ref_=nv_sr_1)
The Godfathers of Hardcore - Agnostic Front - 6.5/10 - it might deserve a slightly better rating, but I felt it spent too much time on Roger's health and not enough time on NYC and possibly interviewing, in greater detail, some of the ex-members etc. Worth watching for sure, if not just for the Stigma time of both newer and old. They used a bunch of footage from a VHS-only release called Live In N.Y.C. '91. Worth watching.
GG Allin: All in the Family 3.5/10 - could have been more about the psychology and more in-depth history.
If I Leave Here Tomorrow: A Film About Lynyrd Skynyrd 8/10 - great. recommended.
American Dream / American Knightmare (about Suge Knight and Death Row Records) 5/10
Cannibal Corpse "Centuries of Torment"Even if I am not the biggest fan of Cannibal Corpse (tho I like 'em occasionally) I find their doc great. After being underwhelmed by something like the Gimme Danger doc on The Stooges that seems tame, shallow and just... flaccid(?), it's cool to see someone nail the band doc formula for me. It's 3 hours long focusing on all members and album by album, not having an agenda other than overview the whole career of the band up to that point with lots of funny/interesting talking heads. It doesn't go for some kind of arc narrative, it just keeps giving. I am not ashamed to say that I quickly jumped to watch the other two hours of bonuses that really add a lot to the experience by being focused on some aspects of the band like the artwork.
And it's funny that if you compare CC (up to that point, not counting the latest event from Pat) to The Stooges, even if the music and imagerie is taken as something more extreme, the lifestyle of Iggy and the guys was WAY wilder, you can get glimpses of that from other sources (the doc Danny Says, even if not focused on Iggy, is more satisfying in painting his picture than all of Gimme Shelter to me). Musical/band/artist documentaries can be tricky, they can be good and bad at the same time like "Lemmy" that wastes too much time licking his feet and putting him on a pedestal, dwelving into the image (myth?) more than the music - even if by the end I enjoyed it because the subject is interesting and charismatic enough (and his music resonates with me). But a lot of docs want to be "The Story of Anvil" without having the material to support that kind of narrative, and then fail on the music nerdiness aspect that I love so much. /endrant
Anyway, the CC doc is available legally on youtube as well as the extras:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGPot3rP53o (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGPot3rP53o)
Quote from: Zeno Marx on December 30, 2018, 10:51:45 PM
GG Allin: All in the Family 3.5/10 - could have been more about the psychology and more in-depth history.
Bummer, I was really looking forward to this one.
I'm about an hour in to the Cannibal Corpse documentary. Like you I couldn't call myself a fan although I've liked the odd thing I've heard. What I appreciate about this is how it avoids the pitfall of "look at all the famous cool people talking about our band" and instead leaves the floor for friends and other bands associated with the band from early on. This is a real grass roots documentary.
EDIT: Serious respect for having one of the band members mother in the documentary. "I told him he should never have left the band!". Mum is always right!
"basically it's about being trapped in your head and not being able to get out, and there's sort of psychic waves of fear keep towering over you and bringing you to your knees, almost to where you think you're going to vomit eternally..."
angry samoans: true documentary https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqCQreez58w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqCQreez58w)
not sure if Murder Mountain counts as a doc, but I started it yesterday - only watched 3 episodes so far and its pretty interesting so far. will post a better review when I complete it
saw some of the cannibal corpse doc.. couldn't help but respect the guys, especially alex webster - seemed like a no bullshit dude. and the love for the music seems to be the driving force.. + i can't really have anything against old geezers still doing their thing and not giving a fuck
The Aristocrats
"One hundred superstar comedians tell the same very, VERY dirty, filthy joke--one shared privately by comics since Vaudeville." And it is awesome on so many levels, I almost pissed my pants laughing. It's a fine and even deep study of comedy, what it is, how it's done, taking the most infamous joke and going berserk with it.
The joke is not even funny and yet, is the funniest ever.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxGD0rk547Y (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxGD0rk547Y)
Lets Get Lost (1988) concerning Jazz singer, trumpet player and hustler Chet Baker is the best music documentary I've seen in a long long time. Expertly directed and put to celluloid by photographer Bruce Weber. The monochrome cinematography is worth the watch alone. Stunning.
Full streaming: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PGeOZqvISk&t=328s
Really!? That is interesting. I am a big fan of Chet Baker (haven´t counted but have at the very least 70 different LPs of him...) and found that film very disappointing when i saw it some years ago. Were you also a fan before watching it?
Quote from: magnus on January 14, 2019, 09:09:02 PM
Really!? That is interesting. I am a big fan of Chet Baker (haven´t counted but have at the very least 70 different LPs of him...) and found that film very disappointing when i saw it some years ago. Were you also a fan before watching it?
HaHa! The last sentence made me laugh.
Autoluminescent: Rowland S. Howard
I've been obsessing over Rowland for the last year or so and it was a bitch to find this one but it is worth. It is effete as hell with moody lights, spoken word vignettes and stuff but so was Rowland, so it fits and doesn't feel forced. It is vague and at the same time doesn't seems shallow, much like the aura of the subject, and I wouldn't say it's a masterpiece but it is very good. I didn't found it depressing as people have said, even with the ending going very down with Rowland, I just found it celebratory and even if it paints him as an unquestionable genius (an approach I don't like) it didn't bothered me because it transpired a lot of care, sensibility and love for the subject. The people interviewed are interesting esp. Nick Cave (obviously) and I am in love with Rowland first wife.
I would love to have 3 hour docs on The Birthday Party, These Immortal Souls and Solo Rowland going deep in all the nerdy stuff but this 2 hour movie does a fine job at being a music biography of a ghost.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpP9iWupUo0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpP9iWupUo0)
Quote from: EXU on January 15, 2019, 03:41:18 AM
Autoluminescent: Rowland S. Howard
I've been obsessing over Rowland for the last year or so and it was a bitch to find this one but it is worth. It is effete as hell with moody lights, spoken word vignettes and stuff but so was Rowland, so it fits and doesn't feel forced. It is vague and at the same time doesn't seems shallow, much like the aura of the subject, and I wouldn't say it's a masterpiece but it is very good. I didn't found it depressing as people have said, even with the ending going very down with Rowland, I just found it celebratory and even if it paints him as an unquestionable genius (an approach I don't like) it didn't bothered me because it transpired a lot of care, sensibility and love for the subject. The people interviewed are interesting esp. Nick Cave (obviously) and I am in love with Rowland first wife.
I would love to have 3 hour docs on The Birthday Party, These Immortal Souls and Solo Rowland going deep in all the nerdy stuff but this 2 hour movie does a fine job at being a music biography of a ghost.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpP9iWupUo0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpP9iWupUo0)
Yeah, its a good and enjoyable doco - but sometimes the 'talking heads' like Henry Rollins feels a bit too much of posthumous arse-kissing.
Incidentally before his death I lived on the same street as Rowland in St Kilda (Melbourne, Australia). Despite being gravely ill (...a walking corpse in fact), he could be regularly spotted walking around the neighbourhood - and always in a full dapper suit regardless of the heat.
Then after his death they named an unnamed pedestrian lane in St Kilda after him - it is a lane often frequented by junkies, prostitutes and random acts of violence - so rather apt really! Prior to its renaming to Rowland S Howard Lane, my wife and I referred to it as 'Blood Alley' given the few occasions of us finding large random pools of blood!
Quote from: re:evolution on January 15, 2019, 04:18:27 AM
Yeah, its a good and enjoyable doco - but sometimes the 'talking heads' like Henry Rollins feels a bit too much of posthumous arse-kissing.
I agree. Henry Rollins I kind of block out of my memory to be honest because he always appears in docs doing this same thing...
Quote from: re:evolution on January 15, 2019, 04:18:27 AM
Incidentally before his death I lived on the same street as Rowland in St Kilda (Melbourne, Australia). Despite being gravely ill (...a walking corpse in fact), he could be regularly spotted walking around the neighbourhood - and always in a full dapper suit regardless of the heat.
Then after his death they named an unnamed pedestrian lane in St Kilda after him - it is a lane often frequented by junkies, prostitutes and random acts of violence - so rather apt really! Prior to its renaming to Rowland S Howard Lane, my wife and I referred to it as 'Blood Alley' given the few occasions of us finding large random pools of blood!
Hahahaha, that's great, thank you a lot for sharing.
Incapacitants - The Movie
Just Mikawa and Kosakai talking about noise interspersed by live clips.
What's not to like?
Genius, joyful, feel the fuckin' love.
Incaps themselves shared on FB:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASa80SyUCso (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASa80SyUCso)
Yeah very sick doc. The old footage is amazing.
Don't know how it compares to other documentaries but I just watched the first 2 episodes of the Ted Bundy Tapes on Netflix and liked it a lot..
i liked the incapacitants doc because it's the incapacitants but there not a huge amount of info there that most people on this forum wouldn't already be aware of from previous print interviews. the live footage is great of course
the Fyre Fest documentary was hilarious
that whole fyre fest mess is entirely down to cocaine
Just got done watching the Fyre doc on netflix. The obvious pull of it is watching spoiled rich cunts get fucked over and on that level it doesn't disappoint but I guess there is also a bit of an implied critique of millennial culture and marketing/branding bullshit which makes it more than just a netflix hatchet job doco. Couldn't have happened to a nicer bunch, of course.
On completely different ends of the spectrum we had a screening of Ludo Is Fantastic down here in Brighton at the weekend which was a nice watch. Much like the recent Milton Graves documentary Full Mantis it doesn't especially try to create a narrative or history of the guy and instead just hones in on his character and vibe. I really enjoyed it and recommend a view if you get the chance.
Quote from: Duncan on January 29, 2019, 12:26:02 AM
Just got done watching the Fyre doc on netflix. The obvious pull of it is watching spoiled rich cunts get fucked over and on that level it doesn't disappoint but I guess there is also a bit of an implied critique of millennial culture and marketing/branding bullshit which makes it more than just a netflix hatchet job doco. Couldn't have happened to a nicer bunch, of course.
pretty much what I was thinking while watching it
Quote from: impulse manslaughter on January 26, 2019, 09:21:24 PM
Don't know how it compares to other documentaries but I just watched the first 2 episodes of the Ted Bundy Tapes on Netflix and liked it a lot..
Real good one! Not like super awesome, but it was entertaining for the whole 4 episodes which I watched in row. And plenty of new footage of Bundy, footage of the crime scenes etc. For once a decent serial killer documentary on Netflix.
Quote from: impulse manslaughter on January 26, 2019, 09:21:24 PM
Don't know how it compares to other documentaries but I just watched the first 2 episodes of the Ted Bundy Tapes on Netflix and liked it a lot..
Yea i liked this docuseries a lot - good job with the editing of the bundy audio tapes, live footage and witness testimony. Loved the footage of the execution rally.
Quote from: EXU on January 21, 2019, 03:19:49 AM
Incapacitants - The Movie
Just Mikawa and Kosakai talking about noise interspersed by live clips.
What's not to like?
Genius, joyful, feel the fuckin' love.
Incaps themselves shared on FB:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASa80SyUCso (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASa80SyUCso)
major thanks for this!
Little Birds Sing - (a film about Jean-Louis Costes)
Very short (18 minutes) but very cool doc about Costes. Are there any other of this kind of mini doc (or just docs) about experimental artists? I welcome any recommendation.
https://vimeo.com/8256348 (https://vimeo.com/8256348)
A few days ago i watched Searching For Sugar Man on TV. Missed the first few minutes but still caught it at the start. It's about an american singer / songwriter named Rodriguez who released one or two records in the early 70s, he failed and he "disappeared" . Meanwhile and for almost two decades he was the most famous artist in South Africa and his records the best-selling ones, more than Rolling Stones etc. Still no info was known about him there, only a photo of him on a cover. The rest of the world didnt know anything as well, actualy they never had hear about him. In SA there were stories about him suicide on stage and similar urban legends. When apartheid ended two of his fans started a search about him ...
Interesting story, one of these with no chance to similarly happen ever again, see : internet. Unless we one day learn about a N.Korea deeper than underground party culture ! No, no chance. Though it's possible there are some guys with an industrial band there, never able to record, just play for their own fun, hidden !
Quote from: Theodore on February 04, 2019, 04:21:29 AM
A few days ago i watched Searching For Sugar Man on TV.
Brilliant documentary! Up there with A Band Called Death for films about passed over musical legends.
27 minute doc/portrait on Bruce Russell from The Dead C made by his daughter.
https://vimeo.com/73436706
Quote from: HongKongGoolagong on May 16, 2012, 04:46:01 PM
"Shut Up Little Man!"
Excellent documentary on audio verite tapes which were big in the 90s of drunk neighbours arguing. I heard this stuff maybe '93 from a Bananafish reading friend, Sotos wrote about it in Parasite around that time too. First half of documentary is all as funny as the tapes and recaps it all brilliantly for anyone unaware of them, second half shifts into ethical and moral considerations about exploitation. Eddie Lee Sausage seems a repugnant human being as do all the Hollywood people and Raymond, Peter and Tony come out of the film with extraordinary dignity compared to them. Very thought-provoking, highly recommended. Queers are not human. I am the human race. You crucified the dinner.
Agree with everything above, great documentary that was fun and ended quite sad. You just see all these vultures around human misery and even feel like you probably are one too for finding fun in any of that at the first place.
Photo-journalist and filmmaker Danny Lyon's social and political documentaries of the 70s-80s.
https://bleakbeauty.com/ (https://bleakbeauty.com/)
Visit his Vimeo channel to watch a selection of films:
https://vimeo.com/user65587177 (https://vimeo.com/user65587177)
Quote from: EXU on January 21, 2019, 03:19:49 AM
Incapacitants - The Movie
Just Mikawa and Kosakai talking about noise interspersed by live clips.
What's not to like?
Genius, joyful, feel the fuckin' love.
Incaps themselves shared on FB:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASa80SyUCso (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASa80SyUCso)
I haven't checked it yet but Mikawa shared this video yesterday:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8oEcl_0k8E (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8oEcl_0k8E)
QuoteThis video is Incapacitants' live performance at Liquidroom, Ebisu, Tokyo on 30th January, 2015. It was at the 20th anniversary event of record shop "Los Apson", titled " LOS APSON? 20TH ANNIVERSARY vs COMPUMA 7 HOURS LOFT presents 「GOLD DAMAGE 2015」Let's Go Crazy" Video by Taro Maruyama, who directed "INCAPACITANTS THE MOVIE". Splendid laser art by Yamachang. Enjoy!!!
This is probably a long shot but, I saw a documentary, probably on TV/not a film, about a Russian/Siberian witch/legend from hundreds of years ago. They buried her with her hands bound and the the grave was continuously disturbed etc. The natives/shaman got involved when the film makers wanted to exhume the grave to see if she was indeed inside or was still "active" or "haunting" the hillsides. The locals were not pleased and took legal action etc etc.
I remember seeing it several years back and have been looking for it recently.
I know that's pretty obscure and nearly impossible but thought I would ask.
Thanks.
Quote from: l.b. on August 31, 2018, 06:52:33 AM
Carts of Darkness - 2008, homeless bottle pickers bomb giant fucking hills in Vancouver on shopping carts, its fucking gnarly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zi-f_J6hV-g (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zi-f_J6hV-g)
It was good but I can't help thinking that a doc about the artsy guy living alone picking cans for a living would be even better.
Quote from: l.b. on January 06, 2019, 08:45:08 AM
"basically it's about being trapped in your head and not being able to get out, and there's sort of psychic waves of fear keep towering over you and bringing you to your knees, almost to where you think you're going to vomit eternally..."
angry samoans: true documentary https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqCQreez58w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqCQreez58w)
This one was very entertaining, it's worth for the Kinji Shibuya Incident alone but the rest is not too shabby. Nerd punk rock on video at it's finest (?).
I guess I got to watch more l.b. picks.
Quote from: Scat-O-Logy on October 17, 2013, 07:04:31 AM
"When I see happy couples during Christmas, I wish they would die (http://youtu.be/TBLUKct85as)"
(I'll update this post when the full version is up)
FULL VERSION UP (http://youtu.be/qpZbu7J7UL4) <--clickclick
So, yeah, I am digging thru old recommendations and got to this one that is very funny in a very sad way, I guess.
And then it led me to this mind blowing shit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwadpGdskCM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwadpGdskCM)
QuoteChannel 4 News meets the people living underground in tunnels beneath Romania's capital Bucharest, abandoned by society to a life of drug addiction and shocking conditions.
13 minutes long and i suggest you give it a watch.
Edit: 3 years old update:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJ5Xx22uFp4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJ5Xx22uFp4)
Iggy Pop's mini-series of Punk documentaries on Epix, Comcast's premium network. You'll have to pay for the other episodes, but the first episode is free. Hearing good things about it.
I watched the Agnostic Front documentary while listing records on discogs today. Talk about a ducking snoozefest. I don't know why I was expecting anything else.
Then I watched the Incapacitants doc, very well done - really enjoyed it.
Obviously I like Incapacitants way more than Agnostic Front - but thedocumentary was just so formulaic.
I saw the Slave to the Grind one recently too at a screening - very enjoyable especially as they're working with zero budget. Lots of cool interviews. The guy from Discordance Axis I wanted to slap upside the head after about 12 seconds.
Abducted in Plain Sight
Just a fucked up story about sex sick pervert called Robert "B" Berchtold. Highlights: The mother of the kidnapped child cheating on her husband with the kidnapper. Kidnapper making the father jack him off. Parents finally get their child back but as they have an "image" to maintain, they decide to drop all charges when the kidnapper threatens to reveal their dirty little secrets to the community. Then the kidnapper creeps back into their lives and snatches her again. The kidnapper ends up killing himself with a mixture of heart medication, milk and glue (that's a first).
Quote from: Scat-O-Logy on March 19, 2019, 02:13:46 AM
Abducted in Plain Sight
Just a fucked up story about sex sick pervert called Robert "B" Berchtold. Highlights: The mother of the kidnapped child cheating on her husband with the kidnapper. Kidnapper making the father jack him off. Parents finally get their child back but as they have an "image" to maintain, they decide to drop all charges when the kidnapper threatens to reveal their dirty little secrets to the community. Then the kidnapper creeps back into their lives and snatches her again. The kidnapper ends up killing himself with a mixture of heart medication, milk and glue (that's a first).
started this and got up to the part where the dad jacked him off in the car - going to finish it this weekend but holy fuck how infuriating are the god damn parents
dam, i had forgotten this part of the forum ;) thanx for all the gold.
i recently saw "Hit So Hard" bout douche-grunge band hole. well, like the music or not, some fucked up people here haha
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1796503/
music documentaries are often interesting, even without any interest for the music in case.... like karen carpenter, stevie nicks, ted nugent... some seriously messed up people... a bit like goin to a zoo, until you remember that you have shit to do and life gets shorter
My favourite music docs are the BBC ones - Genesis, Prog Rock, Krautrock, I would be totally down to see more of them in that vein....
Quote from: Scat-O-Logy on March 19, 2019, 02:13:46 AM
Abducted in Plain Sight
Just a fucked up story about sex sick pervert called Robert "B" Berchtold. Highlights: The mother of the kidnapped child cheating on her husband with the kidnapper. Kidnapper making the father jack him off. Parents finally get their child back but as they have an "image" to maintain, they decide to drop all charges when the kidnapper threatens to reveal their dirty little secrets to the community. Then the kidnapper creeps back into their lives and snatches her again. The kidnapper ends up killing himself with a mixture of heart medication, milk and glue (that's a first).
Thanks for the heads up on this one. Was new to me. A bit generic film production over all, but the story and its involved surpassed that w stellar points. Can recommend it to others as well. It is as crazy as it sounds.
Abducted in Plain Sight was interesting but I wish they had gone more into the current situation of the people interviewed about the case. Also her parents were so stupid I believe they should be in jail right now!! I mean this was 1974!!
Special Interests Documentary: ZSS
Not really familiar with the project and by the end of the video I didn't got many insight of it, seems like a missed opportunity and I hope with time SI does something more in depth and thoughful (both in content and technique). It's basically a long interview interspersed with some images and two or three live excerpts, the lack of any onscreen info about who is talking, what is being shown (album artwrk, cover, date, place) etc bothers me a little but the oldschool film video filter bothers even more, gives it a very (negative) amateur aspect to it all, the location of the interview doesn't helps (the beige wall background, maybe just make it b&w then?).
In the end what bugs me the most is that the interview is made of mostly "the guy from ZSS" kind of explaining/validating the imagery used on the project, something that was already said in the first two minutes of the video, then just dragged on an on, with the musical/audio aspects representing less than 5% of the content, and it's sad that by the end, in the final couple of minutes (after the interesting if shallow talking about the live act with the bike and video) things get way more interesting because he starts to talk about his project on a more personal take instead of trying to put it in perspective, and with some focus on more interesting questions it could be very nice because he seems articulated enough to say more than the blanket statements that the interviewer seemed to ask of him, like in parts when he mentions "detachment" with the material of some power electronic acts and other hints of deeper thoughts. As it is everything seems muddled. Here's for hoping this series of interviews get closer to the documentary "format" and add more background information as well as some editing of redundancy and more meaty interview questions.
DEATH - DEATH BY METAL - Doc about the death metal band Death (I hope this is clear enough now). It's good but I can't help putting band docs I see side to side with the Cannibal Corpse one. The CC is so well done and extensive that should serve as a model for other docs in the same vein, at least with bands that have more than a couple albums because you can't nerd enough in two hours, and this is stuff for nerds in the first place. I don't know if there is a longer edit or if there are tons of extras but as it is, it's ok, nice to watch, and I esp. like the fact that it doesn't try to create a myth out of Schuldiner, it talks about some of his flaws... Still, not enough! I mean, most people talking are ex band members, with only (from what I can remember) his mother and sister, a producer and an agent outside of that circle (there's two jornalists two I guess), you don't get to hear other metal artists and people in the "scene" or personal friends and that adds a lot. I also think that there's not info enough about the albums (moar nerding please) and you don't know much about Chuck the person, his personal life would be interesting... I know it is a doc about "the band", but you can't separate one from the other, he was the band in some way. If it was just a three albuns band without any grand happening at the end (the cancer shit) and with more or lesso common dudes or at least ones that doesn't have connections with hundreds of other interesting acts and activities, well, then two hours could tap that fine. This one left me unsatisfied even if I recommend it.
VICE has some cool little docs, I don't like the magazine a lot and some people who work for them are assholes, blablabla, but I liked Inside America's Most Violent Wrestling Deathmatch (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ps0NJ2Sq8D4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ps0NJ2Sq8D4)) and even more Heroin Holiday in the Czech Republic (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdYZj9vmfi0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdYZj9vmfi0)) and Takanakuy: Fistfighting in the Andes (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKjSyZhIIiw&t (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKjSyZhIIiw&t)) I was surprised that I did not despise Thomas Morton as the "host" of these two and actually enjoyed his work here. Will check out more of the Vice Fringes docs for sure, cool snapshots of interesting material.
I didn't know about the Death doc - is it streaming anywhere? I love all eras of Death (depending on my mood I like prog-tech-wank later stuff better or early raw-tech better) but I'd love to see this. Haven't seen the CC one either but as a casual fan I would like to.
Streaming platforms in Canada don't often pick these up and buying a DVD is sort of redundant since they just seem to sit around since I do t own a DVD player anymore. I would really only be doing it if it was the only means to "support" the filmmaker.
Sorry HG, I saw it thru less honorable "alternative" ways, so can't help you there.
Flint Town - Binge watched this one. It reminds me a lot of "The Wire", and some people here seems even too good (in a cinematic sense, as a character, etc) to be true. Loved the soundtrack too. The rating was like 1.5/5 stars and I don't know how it's calculated but I really wish it will have more episodes (porbably won't tho). It covers a lot of ground and gets better with every episode (there are 8 here in Brazil).
ReMastered: Devil at the Crossroads - Ok, short and ok. Seems like the ReMastered will be a series of docs. Cool.
Quote from: Scat-O-Logy on March 19, 2019, 02:13:46 AM
Abducted in Plain Sight
Just a fucked up story about sex sick pervert called Robert "B" Berchtold. Highlights: The mother of the kidnapped child cheating on her husband with the kidnapper. Kidnapper making the father jack him off. Parents finally get their child back but as they have an "image" to maintain, they decide to drop all charges when the kidnapper threatens to reveal their dirty little secrets to the community. Then the kidnapper creeps back into their lives and snatches her again. The kidnapper ends up killing himself with a mixture of heart medication, milk and glue (that's a first).
This was a late night in-bed watch with my wife. Turned into the two of us screaming at the TV for 90 minutes. Loved the taped phone calls between the mother and the abductor/her lover where they sound like old friends catching up.
The Devil and Father Amorth - Kind of ok doc by William Friedkin, I liked the beggining where they talk about The Exorcista and then comes a kinda boring real exorcism session and it ends with a lot of people going "oh, that's cool" about it and then things are left hanging by the end, unsatisfying in all fronts IMO.
The New God
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_2-FMgPHf0
Directed by Tsuchiya Yutaka, the film follows the daily life of Amemiya Karin, vocalist of the nationalist punk band The Revolutionary Truth, and focuses primarily on the reasons behind her having gotten involved in the far-right. Fun little doc!
Quote from: Eastern Embargo on June 17, 2019, 01:29:48 AM
The New God
this is good, thanks. that band sure is something! they set up a drum kit on stage but no real drummer??
The Smell of Paradisehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0Flrs66lH0&t=488s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0Flrs66lH0&t=488s)
tracing development of the radical armed jihadi movements from afghanistan and chechnya, pre-9/11 up thru a few years into US afghan war
The First Chechen War (Первая чеченская. На войне, как на войне.)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6y4sxoJ2A0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6y4sxoJ2A0)
russian soldier narrates and reflects on camcorder footage he shot in '96 near the end of first chechen war
Sex, Lies, and Sex Offenders
https://youtu.be/0sEqWlJbEX4
Straight to the point, no fluff or filler here. Not much more to be said, lengthy interviews with several different types of sex offenders. It's a two part documentary, I've linked the first part up there, the second part is on that channel.
Quote from: EXU on May 15, 2019, 03:06:55 AM
The Devil and Father Amorth - Kind of ok doc by William Friedkin, I liked the beggining where they talk about The Exorcista and then comes a kinda boring real exorcism session and it ends with a lot of people going "oh, that's cool" about it and then things are left hanging by the end, unsatisfying in all fronts IMO.
had high expectations, It starts well then turn lame and I can only feel pity for that suffering lady.
Art of Darkness - A documentary about Bryan Lewis Saunders that may be most known for his series of self portraits while using diferent kinds of drugs or by his ties with the experimental music scene as a performer and collaborator. In fact since "1995 artist Bryan Lewis Saunders decided to do a self portrait every day for the rest of his life." and he has a lot of interesting views on art, it is a very nice doc and could serve as a template of how to do a simple doc about a lesser known artist (like noise, PE, industrial, etc) without too much but entertaining none the less. It helps if the artist has interesting and intelligent things to say too instead of just trying to justify/make no big deal his own "provocative gimmicks" or something. This and the Incaps short doc show some different ways to approach wonderful results for people interested in the subject.
CON: Could have more time focused on his audiovisual exploitings that are as interesting as his self portraits (if not more on a personal level).
The documentary was uploaded by the creators and can be seen in full here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ld9tr2Tjyo0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ld9tr2Tjyo0)
Quote from: theworldisawarfilm on August 20, 2018, 03:09:56 AM
Turned Out: Sexual Assault Behind Bars (2004)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKbnWW-4K-A (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKbnWW-4K-A)
Classic, and highly recommended. One of the interviews in there is where Rectal Hygienics sourced the sample for the last track on "Even The Flies Won't Touch You."
Thanks for posting that Smell Of Paradise BBC documentary, really enjoyed it. Also enjoyed the Cannibal Corpse one, although I've always been a fan.
Thrash Altenessen (English Subtitles)German documentary from the 80s about thrash metal band Kreator. Kind of dry in parts, but overall worth a watch. It examines the sociopolitical climate of Germany in the late 70s and 80s, to give some context to Kreator's sound and lyrics. The live footage is good too, if you like Kreator.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MX-BhBdPCNo
Quote from: Frataxin on July 15, 2019, 08:00:25 PM
Thrash Altenessen (English Subtitles)
Nice, will check out. It made me remember of one that I don't think I talked about:
SODOM - LORDS OF DEPRAVITY - 3 hour doc about the band. Good if not great, let's say it's not as good as the Cannibal Corpse one but it is still enjoyable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVQm4rwpOAI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVQm4rwpOAI)
20 YEARS OBSCENE EXTREME FESTIVAL ANNIVERSARY - Calling it a documentary is very misleading, it is just a report from the 20th OE and quite a shallow one with random interviews of people in the audience and bands. It does give you some of the Festival vibe and the people are usually funny and nice but the lack of focus and more depth makes it a little lackluster... You see people talking about Napalm Death and Gutalax for example, but then the bands interviewed are Brainwash (ITA) and Asphyx. I mean, they are ok and cool interviews but it makes no sense, there's not much said about the origins of the festival itself and so on. But it's cool to watch if you just take it as less than a documentary, some very funny moments.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j42syfSnsTo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j42syfSnsTo)
MURAL - JACKSON POLLOCK - A short (40 minutes) doc about the painting of "Mural" and it's restoration. Half of it is interesting and half quite "meh", not essential and has the usual "art world" affectations.
THE REALMS OF THE UNREAL - A very well made doc about Henry Darger (from wikipedia: "He has become famous for his posthumously discovered 15,145-page, single-spaced fantasy manuscript called The Story of the Vivian Girls, in What Is Known as the Realms of the Unreal, of the Glandeco-Angelinian War Storm, Caused by the Child Slave Rebellion, along with several hundred drawings and watercolor paintings illustrating the story").
I was really interested in the subject, the director Jessica Yu handles it very nicely and there are tons of info and visuals of his art so I can't really explain why it felt to me as the more it progressed the less I was interested in it all. Maybe explaining too much and giving too much context expoiled the "magic" for me, that "air of mistery" that perhaps gives a lot of wheight to outsider art goes away when you can join the pieces and see how much he was influenced by this or that. But that may be a personal problem for me, I do recommend this documentary to all those interested in outsider/non conventional/weird art (and artists). I know some people will have a kick out of it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRlvDKcDvsI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRlvDKcDvsI)
TURNING THE ART WORLD INSIDE OUT - This doc actually lead me to watch the one about Hnery Darger ("
hosted by Alan Yentob, published by BBC broadcasted as part of BBC Imagine series in 2013"). It shows many different artists and the only problem is that I wanted to know more about some of them... But then again, I got more of Henry Darger and it actually didn't worked that much for me so I must be careful with what I wish for.
The darger one is better made and all but I recommend this one higher personally.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98RUUhVgLR0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98RUUhVgLR0)
Oh, just saw this one is on youtube:
Lovecraft: Fear of the Unknown. I saw it last year on a Lovecraft inspired movies DVD box and it is very cool ("
LOVECRAFT: FEAR OF THE UNKNOWN is a chronicle of the life, work and mind that created these weird tales as told by many of today's luminaries of dark fantasy including John Carpenter, Guillermo Del Toro, Neil Gaiman, Stuart Gordon , Caitlin Kiernan, and Peter Straub").
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jg9VCf5einY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jg9VCf5einY)
Quote from: EXU on July 15, 2019, 09:20:35 PM
SODOM - LORDS OF DEPRAVITY
Been meaning to check this one out.
EYEHATEGOD "Peace Through Addiction" Short Documentary 1993Very short piece only totaling 11:28, but it's amusing. Much better than the Slow Southern Steel documentary on YouTube about southern sludge metal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aobYYKSj9wo
Quote from: Frataxin on July 16, 2019, 04:13:06 AM
Quote from: EXU on July 15, 2019, 09:20:35 PM
SODOM - LORDS OF DEPRAVITY
Been meaning to check this one out.
It's enjoyable if you enjoy the band and esp. if you are a music nerd I must add.
That EYEHATEGOD is so good that it is criminal that the band doesn't have something lenghtier (to my knowledge) about them.
SSS is cool if you block the douchiness every now and then, still has some people I admire in it to make up for the worst parts so I can't be much objective about it.
FRANCIS BACON: A BRUSH WITH VOLENCE - This one is great, lots of interesting information about a very interesting (and troubled) artist and his wonderful art. A delightful dark ride.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgrO5za0lSY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgrO5za0lSY)
BBC JEAN MICHEL BASQUIAT - A more colourful ride, tho a quick one that ended in sudden death nonetheless, but most of the 1 hour and a half of this documentary echoes the art/life and times of Basquiat pretty well IMO, I didn't knew much about him to be honest and wasn't planning on watching but it started and I just went all the way with it, gotta watch the longer Warhol doc too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omqwxClsXKc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omqwxClsXKc)
Not sure if this has already been posted and I've forgotten, but anyway - "The New God" is an interesting and rather personal little documentary following two members of the Japanese punk (don't know if that's how they would characterise it but they sound pretty punk to me, especially the ridiculous vocals) band The Revolutionary Truth, a didactic-as-fuck Japanese nationalist project. The people featured come across as very likeable, albeit just young and confused, and, as is usual with political extremists, much closer to pessimist than they would dare admit (at least as my own biases interpret things).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_2-FMgPHf0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_2-FMgPHf0)
Yeah, it's a shame that there isn't something more in depth about EHG to my knowledge. It is really good, even though it's very short. Can't get past the bullshit in SSS, gave it a second try.
Nailing The Nail Bomber
Pretty decent documentary about the criminal investigation surrounding the London nailbomber David Copeland.
https://youtu.be/2K9WLAvI2to (https://youtu.be/2K9WLAvI2to)
Recent antinatalist documentary.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Acet7do7tKE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Acet7do7tKE)
Quote from: Frataxin on July 16, 2019, 04:13:06 AM
EYEHATEGOD "Peace Through Addiction" Short Documentary 1993
Very short piece only totaling 11:28, but it's amusing. Much better than the Slow Southern Steel documentary on YouTube about southern sludge metal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aobYYKSj9wo
Fantastic!
Watching XTC "This Is Pop" doc - fantastic stuff. I'm a recent convert to this band and really loving this. Very much a typical "rockumentary" about a totally non-typical band. Fantastic.
Quote from: holy ghost on July 25, 2019, 02:40:36 AM
Watching XTC "This Is Pop" doc - fantastic stuff. I'm a recent convert to this band and really loving this. Very much a typical "rockumentary" about a totally non-typical band. Fantastic.
Great watch, especially if you're a fan. Had some very pointless contributions from one or two interviewees not in the band but is mostly packed full of interesting stuff. Really enjoy how it charts their progress from a scrappy, choppy guitar group to a huge, overblown pop music factory. Even today they're just hugely under appreciated in terms of songwriting and the strength of all those albums. I think this was from quitting live shows in part but also because they are inescapably over the top in their execution. Love them.
Goodbye CP (1972)
https://vimeo.com/24199126
Kazuo Hara's essential DIY documentary portrait of adults with cerebral palsy in Japan. Hara later made The Emperor's Naked Army Marches On, which is arguably one of the best docs ever made (also available on youtube heh).
Quote from: Eastern Embargo on July 25, 2019, 11:02:09 PM
Goodbye CP (1972)
Will definitely check this out.
Orozco The Embalmer (2001)In 1996, Tsurisaki Kiyotaka, one of Japan's most infamous death photographers, ventured into the center of Hell itself- the Rue Morgue neighborhood of Bogota, Colombia. With death and murder rampant, the corpses eventually find their way to embalmer Froilan Orozco, who has been tending the dead for over 50 years. It only makes sense the two would become acquaintances. Over the next few years Kiyotaka filmed Orozco at work, embalming everyone from murder victims to the elderly. Orozco the Embalmer (Orozco el Embalsamador) is the result, a gut wrenching look at corpses and the man who prepares them.
https://archive.org/details/Orozco.el.embalsamadorViaZoo (https://archive.org/details/Orozco.el.embalsamadorViaZoo)
Quote from: Frataxin on July 28, 2019, 06:22:09 AM
Orozco The Embalmer (2001)
Damn, thanks a lot for reminding me of this one and for the link, I've read about it ages ago and totally forgot.
https://youtu.be/ga6ZwfsS1cA
Tokyo Noise
Rare doc featuring Tokyo creatives including noise musician Mayuko Hino, Araki, and others. Good watch!
Cripple Bastards 1988-1998 Documentary (from the 'Blackmails and Assoholism' DVD)
CB documentary, the other half is on the same channel. Interesting stories and whatnot from the early days of the band, lots of great VHS rips.
https://youtu.be/E_BQjKN0wZM (https://youtu.be/E_BQjKN0wZM)
Just today realised that the Tunnel Canary documentary finally saw the light of day, it's online here: https://thesmalls.com/video/tunnel-canary-a-brief-history-1978-83
Quote from: Frataxin on September 20, 2019, 07:42:34 PM
Cripple Bastards 1988-1998 Documentary (from the 'Blackmails and Assoholism' DVD)
CB documentary, the other half is on the same channel. Interesting stories and whatnot from the early days of the band, lots of great VHS rips.
https://youtu.be/E_BQjKN0wZM (https://youtu.be/E_BQjKN0wZM)
I didn't know this was a thing! I'll definitely check this out when I have a free evening.
Watched Cold Case Hammarskjöld last night. I didn't really like the presentation of the movie and the way the director tries to connect to the audience but it turned out to be an interesting movie with the mysterious death of Dag Hammarskjöld in 61 as a starting point, quickly turning into unexpected directions. Would recommend watching this.
This weekend I saw League of Exotique Dancers (2015) - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4870190/
Mostly a quick back and forth between old stars of the exotic dance, burlesque, porn etc. scenes. Some of these ladies in their 70s talking about their lives and careers - eventually participating in a Hall of Fame event. Great insights for the uninitiated, great to get to know these characters a bit more. Recommended.
The Devil Next Door on Netflix. Mini series documentary about the story of John Demjanjuk and his trial in Israel accussed to be the gas chamber operator "Ivan the Terrible" of Treblinka camp. Finished it in 2 days, very good, well made, and no matter if you already know the story it keeps your interest till the end.
I wont comment more to not spoil it. Only this, to me the real star of this documentary seems to be his jew lawyer. A fascinating and disgusting person, from those you better have no deals with at all, cause no matter if they are your enemy or your friend, they are capable for great good or great bad for you in any case. Nothing in between, they will make impact !
Quote from: Eastern Embargo on September 01, 2019, 04:58:32 AM
https://youtu.be/ga6ZwfsS1cA
Tokyo Noise
Rare doc featuring Tokyo creatives including noise musician Mayuko Hino, Araki, and others. Good watch!
In conjunction with this docu, I would also recommend folks to see the Nobuyoshi ARAKI photo documentary
'Arakimentari': https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20FeFMaPk1I&t=1674s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20FeFMaPk1I&t=1674s) Insigthful production about all facets of his practice.
Entertaining / good documentaries I recommend:
TURNED OUT : SEXUAL ASSAULT BEHIND BARS (2004)
https://vimeo.com/308469127
Good doc on rape culture in prison, if you want to see dirt poor people talking about being assaulted or how they toss the salad, this one's for you. Interesting and entertaining, also for a gritty look at the life and survival of the fittest in general in the prisons of america. I don't know if it's the same in every prisons as I'm not american and never done time, but here is a look at some of them.
HOOKERS, HUSTLERS, PIMPS & THEIR JOHNS (1993)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMFIbQSShYE
A dive into the 90s New York prostitution. A picture that looks almost amateurish, giving a very sleazy and gritty vibe to the whole thing. Man, some of them hookers, hustlers, pimps or johns have some fucking good lines sometimes, you could do more than 20 samples for a record based on this sole doc. The blonde mistress treating his sub like a piece of dirt or that fat piece of trash pimp in sweatpants, crackhead hooker talking about how she got threatened with a gun among other things, a lot of sad stories from a great gallery of characters... Must watch. Also HOOKERS AT THE POINT is a street life classic, produced by HBO https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-Ax6Fne9-M
THE MARK OF CAIN (2001)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_NS1ctv0_E (russian with eng subs)
Best doc on modern russian prisons, several of them including one for women. Alix Lambert did such an amazing job to show how rotting, decaying, cold and scary the prisons and inmates are. This is mostly based on the russian prison tattoos, their meaning, and how you can be beaten up or killed for wearing some you don't deserve. But you can see the life behind bars as well, it seems like they are sleeping at 62 in a 7m2 cell. Harsh and oppressive. Crushing. A. Lambert also released a book of photographs from the time she spent in those cells, and of the best / worst tattoos she's seen.
SEX FREAKS (1974)
https://fr.xhamster.com/videos/sex-freaks-1974-1180779
This one is a weird hippie mondo about sexual perversions of all kinds. From peeping tom to necrophilia, fetish for dolls, stealing and sniffing panties, 'homosexuality', piss, bondage etc etc
(https://66.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ktpiqyaZzA1qat9pso1_1280.jpg)
Thanks for the links. HOOKERS, HUSTLERS, PIMPS & THEIR JOHNS was great insomnia-fuel at 3am. Miserable as it is, I found it weirdly sex-positive. All the 'man-on-the-street' bits were revealing about a cross-section of attitudes. I also appreciated how broadly it covered sex-work. The gay hustler with a day job and a ledger was great and not the sort of person depicted really at all on screen. Same for the Dominatrix (that poor dog). Junior, too, is somehow a very sympathetic dude. There's a lot to unpack. I lived and worked in NYC 5 years after this was made and it's amazing how much changed in the interim.
Quote from: ashraf on November 25, 2019, 08:15:08 PM
Thanks for the links. HOOKERS, HUSTLERS, PIMPS & THEIR JOHNS was great insomnia-fuel at 3am. Miserable as it is, I found it weirdly sex-positive. All the 'man-on-the-street' bits were revealing about a cross-section of attitudes. I also appreciated how broadly it covered sex-work. The gay hustler with a day job and a ledger was great and not the sort of person depicted really at all on screen. Same for the Dominatrix (that poor dog). Junior, too, is somehow a very sympathetic dude. There's a lot to unpack. I lived and worked in NYC 5 years after this was made and it's amazing how much changed in the interim.
I agree! It is miserable because their lives are, but also very human as they care about the people they film and don't try anything sensationalistic.
If you care about documentaries on this topic, there is also Hookers on Davie, mostly interviews with prostitutes, from 1984. And Hookers at the Point, that I mentionned above. Both really good.
HOOKERS ON DAVIE : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWUm2AXEa-E
From Imdb:
"Filmmakers Holly Dale and Janis Cole explore the culture of Davie Street, located in the underbelly of Vancouver, where dozens of prostitutes work and live every day. Surprisingly, they find that the sex trade there is stable and largely non-violent, and that the women who work on Davie Street meet daily to discuss safety and health issues and don't use pimps. The film also includes candid interviews with the prostitutes and footage of negotiations with potential clients."
You should check this documentary "Chickenhawk" on the NAMBLA, from 1994.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ygrd29-_O3I
Members of the controversial group NAMBLA (North American Man/Boy Love Association) discuss why their organization supports "boys and men who have or desire engagements in sexual or emotional relationships."
Fun trivia, it was distributed by Stranger Than Fiction, Todd Philipps' company, who directed GG Allin : Hated In The Nation and would direct Hungover or more recently Joker
Quote from: Neons Fanzine on December 13, 2019, 05:31:11 AM
You should check this documentary "Chickenhawk" on the NAMBLA, from 1994.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ygrd29-_O3I
Members of the controversial group NAMBLA (North American Man/Boy Love Association) discuss why their organization supports "boys and men who have or desire engagements in sexual or emotional relationships."
Fun trivia, it was distributed by Stranger Than Fiction, Todd Philipps' company, who directed GG Allin : Hated In The Nation and would direct Hungover or more recently Joker
- Message approved.
Watched Animal Passions (2004) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pl9DdB75d2E the other day after seeing an article/post somewhere that mentioned it in regards to another one I had seen on the same subject years ago which is also worth seeing - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0874423/?ref_=fn_tt_tt_12.
Focus of Animal Passions is mainly on a small group of "animal lovers" in the rural US - some interesting interviews concerning sexual encounters with pets. One guy that married his pony is the main focus.
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if anyone has a copy of "Das langsame Sterben der Marianne Bachmeier" please hook me up
not much info here, but hey...
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5462588/
Hyena Men : Animal Gangs of Nigeria : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAbhQphEBeg
Quote from: Neons Fanzine on December 13, 2019, 05:31:11 AM
You should check this documentary "Chickenhawk" on the NAMBLA, from 1994.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ygrd29-_O3I
Always gives me the creeps whenever I'm in need of some depravity to shake up my dull existence!
Everybody here should watch this. It's legitimately truly eye-opening, and I can't say that about many things.
https://youtu.be/bv0njohm1kU
Sick: The Life and Death of Bob Flanagan, Supermasochist (1997, dir. Kirby Dick)
"In the film, Flanagan explains his use of BDSM for sexual gratification and also as a therapeutic device to take control over his body from cystic fibrosis. He discusses his conceptual, performance, and video art, which often relates to pain, illness, medicine, and sexuality."
Flanagan was quite the exhibitionist, a devastatingly compelling figure. He performed in the Nine Inch Nails video for "Happiness In Slavery."
https://ubu.com/film/flanagan_supermasochist.html?fbclid=IwAR2zgpfT73NDPVAlFg32ADlLJWpNyzGqrIhMEvcvQ-sfgA0RXObS-8zuYbw (https://ubu.com/film/flanagan_supermasochist.html?fbclid=IwAR2zgpfT73NDPVAlFg32ADlLJWpNyzGqrIhMEvcvQ-sfgA0RXObS-8zuYbw)
Quote from: Frataxin on December 04, 2020, 08:50:56 AM
Sick: The Life and Death of Bob Flanagan, Supermasochist (1997, dir. Kirby Dick)
"In the film, Flanagan explains his use of BDSM for sexual gratification and also as a therapeutic device to take control over his body from cystic fibrosis. He discusses his conceptual, performance, and video art, which often relates to pain, illness, medicine, and sexuality."
Flanagan was quite the exhibitionist, a devastatingly compelling figure. He performed in the Nine Inch Nails video for "Happiness In Slavery."
https://ubu.com/film/flanagan_supermasochist.html?fbclid=IwAR2zgpfT73NDPVAlFg32ADlLJWpNyzGqrIhMEvcvQ-sfgA0RXObS-8zuYbw (https://ubu.com/film/flanagan_supermasochist.html?fbclid=IwAR2zgpfT73NDPVAlFg32ADlLJWpNyzGqrIhMEvcvQ-sfgA0RXObS-8zuYbw)
Thanks for the share. I have been thinking of this gem and need to see it again. Classic docu.
hah, I watched that doc in middle school with my raver buds. Thanks for bringing that back! Happiness in Slavery video is incredible if you haven't seen it.
I really, really enjoyed the Enslaved "Heimvegen" docu series so far. In my opinion, that's how something like this should be made.
It's #7 out of 12 at the moment.
Here's the link to the first one, just go on from there, if you're interested:
https://youtu.be/mIGlN57sXqI (https://youtu.be/mIGlN57sXqI)
Sanpa : Limited series doc on Netflix about a rehab community in Italy and its controversial founder. Started with just a few, developed into a village hosting thousands, having a lot of support ... and funds. - Very good, i watched it in just two days. A lot of footage, and although i dont know the story i feel it's a 'fair' , balanced doc that let viewer decide for himself what to think, to form his own opinion.
Personaly i believe that 2-3 deaths [murders or 'suicides' i mean] only in many years with hundreds of addicts live and work together is an achievement, and not something they had to apologize for. Neither the harsh methods used and strict discipline annoys me much. What really annoys me is the saviour mentality, either that is plain "I will save you" or the more 'elegant' I will help you to save yourself. Not even doctors / surgeons have that mentality. - But I generaly dislike rehab communities, -both old-school 'arbeit macht frei' model and modern psychotherapy-based ones. Either them have saviour mentality or are just businness, it doesnt matter- , group-therapy, psychology related and all that shit ...
I think more appropriate is a medical , no-drama approach. Just reduce the addict to a reasonable but satisfying daily dose-s -heroin or substitute- and provide it to him to use in controlled enviroment, for lifetime if neccesary. Also have a person available if he wants to speak or ask for guidance.
Quote from: AnonMessAgeSage on August 15, 2020, 09:07:28 PM
Everybody here should watch this. It's legitimately truly eye-opening, and I can't say that about many things.
https://youtu.be/bv0njohm1kU
top-notch informative document of "counter-propaganda". Amazing, thank you for sharing it.
Quote from: Theodore on January 02, 2021, 12:44:57 AM
Sanpa : Limited series doc on Netflix about a rehab community in Italy and its controversial founder. Started with just a few, developed into a village hosting thousands, having a lot of support ... and funds. - Very good, i watched it in just two days. A lot of footage, and although i dont know the story i feel it's a 'fair' , balanced doc that let viewer decide for himself what to think, to form his own opinion.
Personaly i believe that 2-3 deaths [murders or 'suicides' i mean] only in many years with hundreds of addicts live and work together is an achievement, and not something they had to apologize for. Neither the harsh methods used and strict discipline annoys me much. What really annoys me is the saviour mentality, either that is plain "I will save you" or the more 'elegant' I will help you to save yourself. Not even doctors / surgeons have that mentality. - But I generaly dislike rehab communities, -both old-school 'arbeit macht frei' model and modern psychotherapy-based ones. Either them have saviour mentality or are just businness, it doesnt matter- , group-therapy, psychology related and all that shit ...
I think more appropriate is a medical , no-drama approach. Just reduce the addict to a reasonable but satisfying daily dose-s -heroin or substitute- and provide it to him to use in controlled enviroment, for lifetime if neccesary. Also have a person available if he wants to speak or ask for guidance.
I thought this was worth watching for its general insight into Italy in the 80's as well. Nice alternative to all the Poliziotteschi I keep watching. With regards to treatment of drug addicts - having worked with both voluntary options, and later years in mental institutions as well.. I'm skeptical of using force in treatment of addiction. If you don't wanna stop, you're not gonna stop.. And communes such as this always seems to degenerate into cults anyway.
regarding the Mucciolis and Sanpa, they were crooks and cunts. Surely they did excellent things and saved many kids, but they were a money making machine that used unorthodox methods and still work with this way of brainwashing kids workin a lot on the sense of guilt.
I worked for a social trust about 20 years ago and we had to interact with them in several occasions and they were scary to say the last.
Said this, killer documentary, shows very well how Italy was damaged by heroin and how it touched all areas of society, including political extremism.
I would mention here the new, amazing docu-serie "Rohwedder", that you can watch on Netflix. As the name suggests, the 4-episodes based documentation explains deeply the murder of Detlev K. Rohwedder, ex Treuhand chief murdered under mysterious circumstances in 1990. The documentation offers a lot of interesting witness from reporters, politicians and other personalities who took part to the case, everything enriched with beautiful video segments from the time and magistral editing.
'Playing in the Road' (1947)
This was on Talking Pictures TV channel tonight. A ten minute film about the dangers of playing in the road.Full of useful information along with old blokes playing darts.Despite being told the dangers of the road, the stout & defiant toddler Davey thinks 'fuck all of them' , breaks away & runs down the road anyway into the sunset at the end.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lu7XJAJEi0Q (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lu7XJAJEi0Q)
Quote from: Major Carew on April 13, 2021, 10:04:04 PM
'Playing in the Road' (1947)
This was on Talking Pictures TV channel tonight. A ten minute film about the dangers of playing in the road.Full of useful information along with old blokes playing darts.Despite being told the dangers of the road, the stout & defiant toddler Davey thinks 'fuck all of them' , breaks away & runs down the road anyway into the sunset at the end.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lu7XJAJEi0Q (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lu7XJAJEi0Q)
One has to like these old public safety videos. I have seen some on things as mundane as "the many poisons in your home" to the seemingly bizarre "what a child should do in the case they find blasting caps just lying around." They are almost always funny though - especially because there never fails to be a child that insists on doing everything wrong.
Broke. a Canadian doc from '09 regarding the pawn-broking business. Not sure if it has been posted.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTf0-bEaAFQ
I didnt know this exist. 30min doc about Mario Marzidovsek. People who knew him back then speak. In slovenian, but has english subs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51bbYHez0to
Amazing documentary off the ´70ies about Tibet, Tantra and Buddhism.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6Ymfsk_ZBk
i'm still looking for this:
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if anyone has a copy of "Das langsame Sterben der Marianne Bachmeier" get in touch --danke!!
The documentary filmmaker/record collector Alan Zweig has just now released a sequel of sorts to his 2000 cult classic Vinyl (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkCMSrvOTAo) that's aptly called Records (https://www.tvo.org/video/documentaries/records). I've just begun watching it now after reading an article (https://www.tvo.org/about/tvo-original-records-follows-cult-classic-from-acclaimed-documentarian-alan-zweig) and seeing the trailer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rzx4u0G0c8) - early impressions are that I'll expect lots of curated collections (and collectors) that are friendly on the eyes and Instagram, rather than neurotic misfits that shunned CDs in the 1990s and know the tracklists of every Ronco compilation. The link above might be geo-location locked to Canada only so ask me for a download link if you want to watch it - hopefully an official version will get added to YouTube soon though.
Quote from: theotherjohn on December 09, 2021, 12:52:41 AM
The documentary filmmaker/record collector Alan Zweig has just now released a sequel of sorts to his 2000 cult classic Vinyl (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkCMSrvOTAo) that's aptly called Records (https://www.tvo.org/video/documentaries/records). I've just begun watching it now after reading an article (https://www.tvo.org/about/tvo-original-records-follows-cult-classic-from-acclaimed-documentarian-alan-zweig) and seeing the trailer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rzx4u0G0c8) - early impressions are that I'll expect lots of curated collections (and collectors) that are friendly on the eyes and Instagram, rather than neurotic misfits that shunned CDs in the 1990s and know the tracklists of every Ronco compilation. The link above might be geo-location locked to Canada only so ask me for a download link if you want to watch it - hopefully an official version will get added to YouTube soon though.
Thanks for the link, will check it out in the near future.
Vinyl was a bit pitiful if I remember.
Quote from: absurdexposition on December 09, 2021, 01:56:24 AM
Quote from: theotherjohn on December 09, 2021, 12:52:41 AM
The documentary filmmaker/record collector Alan Zweig has just now released a sequel of sorts to his 2000 cult classic Vinyl (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkCMSrvOTAo) that's aptly called Records (https://www.tvo.org/video/documentaries/records). I've just begun watching it now after reading an article (https://www.tvo.org/about/tvo-original-records-follows-cult-classic-from-acclaimed-documentarian-alan-zweig) and seeing the trailer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rzx4u0G0c8) - early impressions are that I'll expect lots of curated collections (and collectors) that are friendly on the eyes and Instagram, rather than neurotic misfits that shunned CDs in the 1990s and know the tracklists of every Ronco compilation. The link above might be geo-location locked to Canada only so ask me for a download link if you want to watch it - hopefully an official version will get added to YouTube soon though.
Thanks for the link, will check it out in the near future. Vinyl was a bit pitiful if I remember.
Caught an interesting (I use the word lightly) bit of trivia during the end credits of
Videodrome which screened here in 35mm this evening: Alan Zweig is credited as one of the crew drivers.
Lost Boys (2020)
Decade later sequel to Reindeerspotting, which detailed the lives of a couple Finnish junkies. In this one we follow them to Cambodia, where they mostly smoke meth with bargirls, one eventually ending up dead. Shot POV on various consumer grade cameras with noir detective-style narration as the filmmaker hunts for clues on their whereabouts. Been meaning to watch this for awhile after having enjoyed Reindeerspotting but think I prefer the grit of that film, this is more arty and feels more staged. Setting and bad vibes kinda reminded of D'agata's work or a cut-rate Noé.