Quote from: HongKongGoolagong on May 04, 2013, 04:02:47 AM
look at the original 1980s crew, and there is Gary Ramleh doing arty Gothic/pop music in Breathless, Maurizio Bianchi making religious/New Age type music, Tim Gane from Un-Kommuniti attaining fame and success through Stereolab's intelligent and melodic work, and it's rather obscure but I have The Worried Well 12" made by Philip Best in the 80s which is a kind of indie techno-pop. I haven't heard them but Kevin Tomkins is making all sorts of peculiar homemade box sets of experiments nowadays, and of course he had a stint in a rock act too.
To me, SJ "Blue Rabbit" CD was best SJ since early days. Certainly very different, but good. Since that SJ recording is Kevin alone, it made me think has anyone heard these Kevins box sets he keeps putting out? This stuff has very little - or lets say - pretty much nothing to do with what is generally considered power electronics. Only dark narrative voice on top of sound textures hints towards such direction. It makes me wonder whether his solo works would be something in this way?
I think that "Between Silences" CDR from 2005 was awful. There was one another CDr, before in 2009 launched "Between Silences" label. From single CDRs up to 17 CDR box sets... Considering some are limited to 20, released in 2009 and still in stock, tells a bit about scale of sales.
All SJ and Between Silences stuff can be found:
http://www.unlabel.net/betweensilencesshop.htm (note that it lists things as CD even if all between silence stuff is cdr)
Which is basically reason why I have none. I've stopped buying cdr simply to spend money on more lasting formats.. But still little curious.
"Blue Rabbit" is amazing and somehow disturbing album! Artwork/paintings are truly great!
I didn't knew that mr Tomkins had that much solo albums. How is sounds?
Mikko, you should rename this thread at Sutcliffe Jügend / Kevin Tomkins solo.
Mikko, I think I was the victim who purchased the "Between Silences" CDR from you. It's so bad that I couldn't even make it to the end, hah! I would also be interested to know more about these solo works. YouTube has this great live performance of Kevin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKWQV5du7y8
In the vein of "Blue Rabbit", which was by the way, one of the best releases of 2012, but obviously more minimal and maybe even a little more "nightmarish". To those of you who haven't heard "Blue Rabbit", someone uploaded complete album on YT: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--9WYixhW24
EDIT: The awful release I was talking about is actually "Threnody For The Victims Of Ignorance" by SJ but I did indeed buy it used from Mikko and it fucking sucks, hah.
"Blue Rabbit" is better than expected. At least, the first 10 or so minutes that I was able to listen to. Definitely better than other other SJ material I've heard- I think the last thing I got was the 2LP(?) with Prurient & I'm not sure I ever made it past the first side before losing interest.
Where the hell is the reissue of "We Spit on Their Graves"?!? Maybe I.R. should ask to reissue those... or the unreleased full-length LP, "Six Perversions" or something?
I see that "Blue Rabbit" was released by a US label so the cd isn't pricey so will pick up a copy sooner or later.
I guess if Whitehouse were the Sex Pistols of PE, then Con-Dom or Genocide Organ would be The Clash, and Kevin Tomkins/SJ would be the GG Allin of the scene.
The very powerful earliest SJ recordings including the Graves set were also recorded by Tomkins alone to my knowledge.
I really like the three SJ albums recorded during the 1990s - they are very silly indeed yet manage to be as thoroughly obnoxious and offensive as anyone could hope for. Try getting that stuff co-opted by The Wire. Everything I have heard since then has not been to my taste but it's hard not to appreciate the madness of a seventeen disc set of autoharp experiments even if no-one wants to listen to it.
Interesting to read an interview where he talked about his disgust for literary references in music. In a world filled with people trying to market themselves he seems to stand against 'high culture' and for the authentic and autodidactic.
I agree that Blue Rabbit is the most peculiar, as well as my favorite, SJ release, and it's interesting to find out that album was just Tomkins. I'm particularly fond of The Bad Mannered Prophet, as some of the discernible lines are very intriguing, as opposed to the more tired and kind of silly lines from When Pornography... and Victim as Beauty. I'd say the aforementioned albums are more disturbing than Blue Rabbit in terms of lyrical fare alone, but whoever used "nightmarish" to describe Blue Rabbit is, in my opinion, spot on. I was always a Death Mask kind of guy until I listened to Blue Rabbit.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on May 06, 2013, 11:44:19 PM
Where the hell is the reissue of "We Spit on Their Graves"?!? Maybe I.R. should ask to reissue those...
There was a thread on Troniks where (I'm pretty sure) Tomkins was posting updates about his progress in mastering all of the recordings. However now that Troniks is gone I don't know where you might be able to get updates from? I really hope he's still working on it. I got tired of waiting and am currently going through a rip from the bootleg vinyl edition. Quality isn't amazing but it's still very good to hear. I'm through the first part and I think it hasn't aged badly at all, still sounds great.
You can find mr Tompkins on facebook so you can ask him about it.
I have rips from tapes. Not so good quality but still great material.
Just today got these pursuit of pleasures vinyls. Didn't have time to listen to those, but I guess not that many people had the possibility too because of exotic label and prices. And for those who are interested - I've got a few copies of Asian and European edition for sale.
Why that shit is so expensive?
Is it made of gold?
I have tape dubs of some of the WSOTG that, I think, came from originals & the sound quality isn't so great. I think I have rips of the entire set on a data disc somewhere too. The best thing is the collection on Susan Lawly.
The 10 volumes of WSOTG + Campaign (I have the bootleg LP) deserve proper releases, not cd-r's. A cd or lp comp of all of SJ's compilation tracks would be nice too.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on May 16, 2013, 07:30:42 PM
I have tape dubs of some of the WSOTG that, I think, came from originals & the sound quality isn't so great. I think I have rips of the entire set on a data disc somewhere too. The best thing is the collection on Susan Lawly.
The 10 volumes of WSOTG + Campaign (I have the bootleg LP) deserve proper releases, not cd-r's. A cd or lp comp of all of SJ's compilation tracks would be nice too.
Somebody should do proper WSOTG re-release from original tapes remastered on cds. That box set will be amazing!!
Quote from: Dr Alex on May 16, 2013, 07:25:10 PM
Why that shit is so expensive?
Is it made of gold?
Nah. One label releasing golden releases is enough most likely. Well, it's nicely released and as with quite a lot of stuff from Asia, the prices for European standards are quite high. Latest Hijokaidan CDs for example etc.
Quote from: Levas on May 16, 2013, 08:25:44 PM
Quote from: Dr Alex on May 16, 2013, 07:25:10 PM
Why that shit is so expensive?
Is it made of gold?
Nah. One label releasing golden releases is enough most likely. Well, it's nicely released and as with quite a lot of stuff from Asia, the prices for European standards are quite high. Latest Hijokaidan CDs for example etc.
Yes, last two Hijokaidan was too overpriced!
That was CD standard price in Japan. I don't think there really exists cheap Hijokaidan CD's? Also all Alchemy Records stuff used to be priced according to Japanese standard.
I'm guessing vinyl pressed in europe (?), shipped to asia, then back to europe - it will be expensive.
QuoteAlso all Alchemy Records stuff used to be priced according to Japanese standard.
Around 6 years ago I bought I think around 30 CDs from Alchemy Records for about $13 per CD including postage. Hijokaidan (all of them), Nihilist Spasm Band, some Incapacitants, Merzbow, Seiichi Yamamoto etc. That was the price they were selling all their releases for, including worldwide postage. I couldn't believe it.
Just spotted this:
SUTCLIFFE JUGEND and JUNKO (非常階段/Hijokaidan) - Sans Palatine Uvula (http://youtu.be/VhIkO3WiBys)
(4iB CD/0413/003) Out Soon On 4iB Records (www.4ibrecords.com)
4iB will also release SUTCLIFFE JUGEND "Live Actions Singapore" but there is no additional info/samples yet.
What happens with SJ = Tomkins + Taylor? Last SJ was Tomkins only and this will be collaboration...
Blue Rabbit was damn good but I miss blasting feedback and screaming of SJ.
Blue Rabbit the song was great story telling. A collection of Tomkin's fiction would be most welcome!
Quote from: Scat-O-Logy on May 23, 2013, 10:55:38 AM
Just spotted this:
SUTCLIFFE JUGEND and JUNKO (非常階段/Hijokaidan) - Sans Palatine Uvula (http://youtu.be/VhIkO3WiBys)
(4iB CD/0413/003) Out Soon On 4iB Records (www.4ibrecords.com)
Recently got this, and quite liked. Unlike other Junko collabos, Tomkins sounds like he actually makes a go of "working with the voice", providing a real dialog, and in some cases actually treats the voice- which is something I'd always thought should be done. At intervals the lungs sound as though they contain real power; something that does not always come through in other recordings. And the title track is great; rusted out shrieks vs rusted out shrieks.
Sorry for necroposting but I'm really curious what happened to the plans of re-releasing the "We Spit On Their Graves" boxset on CD ? The only news there were for the last couple of years is that Kevin is remastering the material but does anyone know if it will see the light of day somewhere in the near future ?
yeah it been a while they talk about it but nothing happen ?
I was tired of waiting for this and bought the WSOTG cd on Cold Spring. Nice selection!
I spoke to Kevin about it and he was up for doing a reissue in principle but didn't seem all that fussed. He stopped replying to messages about it eventually. A guy spoke to me at the recent Shift/IFOTS etc gig I put on in Glasgow and said he was a pal of them and they had asked him to approach me about putting them on live in Glasgow. I had to run away straight after that night to get home so never got the guy's name but well, they've got my email address!
Get the impression he's more interested in recent stuff he's doing and doesn't care too much about ten hours of music he fired out pretty rapid some 30 years ago.
Could have posted these album comments in "Playlist", but perhaps wouldn't be a bad idea to revive a specific thread.
Sutcliffe Jügend – Pigdaddy (2008, Cold Spring)
This work from the frequently criticized period of the project's activity actually grew to be one of my favourites in the discography. The filthiness & ugliness of the concept is perfectly presented in the material. Dense and muddy guitar feedback layering, surgically cold electronic pulsations, atonal autoharp convulsions, creepy «damaged tape» effects and filthy samples of choking & regurgitating sounds thrown in the overall sound cesspool... The result is not harsh and radical "ear punishment" at all, but a really enjoyable experience of stinking aural mudbath. Tomkins' vocal perfomance on this one is also very noteworthy of course, this "perverted old creep" style works really well with the concept, it's quite comical on the one hand, but in a quite an unhealthy way, sort of "John Waters movie"-style of intentionally bad taste humour. It also somewhat rhymes with my impressions from some of Marco Corbelli's vocal tricks for example, which can also sometimes seem to be a bit comical, but in the context of sickening atmosphere of Corbelli's music they somehow add more unhealthy craziness to the music, make it even more fucked-up. The same situation with this "dirty old fuck groping in the boy's pants" style of Tomkins' delivery on "Pigdaddy". Especially impressive are the moments, when the old fuck goes hysterical and starts to yell the same shit over and over until he probably gets a heart attack. "Defacer", the second track on the album, is a good example of this: "It's not enough! It's not enough!" and a fuckload of more repitition until it all grows into fucked-up mumbling senile dementia. I also really enjoy the cold, pulsating synthwork on this track, some kind of gloomy surgery-room electronics, reminds me of Corbelli again and his traditional style of gloomy rhythmic synth-throbbings with minimalistic structure. Paul Taylor's guitar freakout on this track is also really enjoyable, maybe a bit too laid-back in the mix, but the dense layered sound comfortably envelops you like warm mud. Probably, "Defacer" is my overall favourite on the album. "Pigdaddy", the title track, comes close with its' (dis)tastefully sampled "choke & spit" electronics, and more fucked-up silliness and bad taste humour in the concept and vocal/lyrical performance - this time the old fuck supposedly (judging by what I could make out from the lyrics) mumbles about his unfortunate impotence problems, while the falsetto voice probably impersonates his young "prey" making fun of him, and it all gives an impression of some kind of satirical take on Sotos' prose. "Dirty" is also interesting stuff - some twisted circus, carnival-ish rhythm and catchy vocal lines (sometimes even resembling a sort of "singalongs"), weird production with sampled grunts following the rhythm and something like turntable fuckery. Among the weaker sides of the album I would point only to the last overextended track "Nonce", a bit tiresome stuff, fails to keep me interested during the whole length. But as for the other 5 - really strong pieces to my opinion, with the 3 mentioned as the standing out. Old pervert electronics at its' best.
Sutcliffe Jügend – Offal (2016, Cold Spring)
My favourite among the heap of work which was released last year (haven't heard the giant "S L A V E S" release though). The main structure of the 1st track "Cleave" is constituted from extended high-pitched drones (sound like produced by electronic organ, but maybe I am mistaken), swelling mass of guitar sound by Taylor will be layered along the way. The introductory electrified-sounding tone strongly reminds me of Whitehouse's famous "Wriggle Like A Fuckin' Eel". Fierce vocal delivery by Tomkins is top notch, the way the vocal tracks are treated in the mix (high-pitched, compressed, razor sharp sounding) is also to my taste. My favourite track comes next though - fuck, "Howl" is really intense. Menacing sound loop of some destructive stuff which sounds like string orchestra getting absorbed in napalm-soaked distortion, even more aggressive vocal delivery with rhythmic precision and use of hysterical repitition of phrases in the manner close to some moments on "Pigdaddy". "Slice" is no less impressive with it's seismic pounding, quite Swans-reminding stuff, I love these rhythmically lined mini-explosions of sound going into non-stop ecstatic frenzy. The last track "Crawl" is in a more experimental vein, strange fragments of sound are organized into some warped rhythmic fuss, which definitely doesn't sound aggressive, crushing or powerful (like the rhythm on the previous track for example), but perhaps the "weirdness" factor may work for someone - the combination of this strange foolish rhythm with background sound madness and Tomkins' psycho ramblings results in something fucked-up and hallucinatory. The overall impression about the album is very similar to my opinion about "Pigdaddy" - very strong main body of work, but mixed feelings about the somewhat uninspiring ending, which unfortunately occupies quite a portion of the album's whole playtime (in this case it is the longest track on the album and lasts about 16 minutes).
Probably best to post this here, there has been a glut of SJ releases last year and wondered what people's thoughts were?
The S L A V E S boxset was the best, assuming you'd prefer the instrumental side of SJ. Of the six discs only one was a letdown, it is the one release I keep coming back to
The Muse was the other standout release, I liked the melancholy vibe running through some of the songs. some might call it melodic, I don't care.
Nude and Full of Wounds is a weirder one, far more vocal heavy from Matthew Soko, can't say I listen to it that much but do appreciate it is something different - as an aside the back cover is dreadful quality, not sure what happened there
Offal was okay, Masks I rarely listen to and is the weakest in my opinion
Not heard Shame yet but with so many releases not sure if will offer anything different from the above
I've come to seriously love Pigdaddy and I really wish someone would release it as an lp, my cd is already too scratched. Also, with the constant demand for a reissue of We spit on their graves I must wonder why nobody has undertaken the task (I mean there have also been rumours of such a repress for a long time but it doesn't seem to be happening?). Would be interested to hear any recommendations on early SJ...
Quote from: Thor on November 18, 2017, 07:45:57 PM
I've come to seriously love Pigdaddy and I really wish someone would release it as an lp, my cd is already too scratched. Also, with the constant demand for a reissue of We spit on their graves I must wonder why nobody has undertaken the task (I mean there have also been rumours of such a repress for a long time but it doesn't seem to be happening?). Would be interested to hear any recommendations on early SJ...
'we spit...' has already been subject to posts regarding dodgy bootleggers and tompkins' own efforts, resulting in loss of remaster data.
sometimes something remains mythical.
given his recent output, it seems likely that mr tompkins has this low on his list...
Any fans of Bodychoke? It was the noise rock project with SJ members. They are maybe not that obscure since "Cold River Songs" was re-released by Relapse Records (because Jonathan Canady from Deathpile worked for them?) and "Five Prostitutes" was produced by Steve Albini. But considering how great they were, not very many people talk about them these days.
Quote from: breidahl on November 24, 2017, 02:20:53 PM
Any fans of Bodychoke? It was the noise rock project with SJ members. They are maybe not that obscure since "Cold River Songs" was re-released by Relapse Records (because Jonathan Canady from Deathpile worked for them?) and "Five Prostitutes" was produced by Steve Albini. But considering how great they were, not very many people talk about them these days.
never heard of them til your post, checking out Skinflick from Five Prostitutes now, it's fucking great. The violin parts with the tense build up reminds me of Godspeed you Black Emperor weirdly. Excellent stuff
The Hunger 2CD is really great, a monumental release! Monolithic. I listened to it several times in the last couple weeks.
It's perfect when you are in that special mood, can't describe it any better.
I also think that all the records from the last years would deserve a mention in the melancholic noise/PE thread as well, at least for my tastes and how I perceive them.
Got the Relentless 4CD set this week and just finished the first CD. This seems to become a glorious farewell. Better than anything from the last 10 years. But then, I also really liked most of the other releases from 2007 onwards.
I believe Kevin was working on the definitive WSOTG re-release but had some sort of computer failure which resulted in him losing all his work. This then became history and he only concentrated on latest stuff.
The above was explained by Kevin on his FB page some years ago.
Don't be expecting any WSOTG set any time soon, or indeed, ever
Quote from: Max DeFrost on July 05, 2019, 07:43:00 PM
I believe Kevin was working on the definitive WSOTG re-release but had some sort of computer failure which resulted in him losing all his work. This then became history and he only concentrated on latest stuff.
The above was explained by Kevin on his FB page some years ago.
Don't be expecting any WSOTG set any time soon, or indeed, ever
I spoke to him about the reissue just a few months ago and he was still open to the idea.
Quote from: Thor on July 09, 2019, 10:13:29 AM
Quote from: Max DeFrost on July 05, 2019, 07:43:00 PM
I believe Kevin was working on the definitive WSOTG re-release but had some sort of computer failure which resulted in him losing all his work. This then became history and he only concentrated on latest stuff.
The above was explained by Kevin on his FB page some years ago.
Don't be expecting any WSOTG set any time soon, or indeed, ever
I spoke to him about the reissue just a few months ago and he was still open to the idea.
I remember this incident, too. I think the computer crashed and all the work they did on the remastering was gone, or something like that. Shame! I guess nobody can argue with the fact that WSOTG is one of the most rerelease-worthy works of the entire genre.
Quote from: Thor on July 09, 2019, 10:13:29 AM
Quote from: Max DeFrost on July 05, 2019, 07:43:00 PM
I believe Kevin was working on the definitive WSOTG re-release but had some sort of computer failure which resulted in him losing all his work. This then became history and he only concentrated on latest stuff.
The above was explained by Kevin on his FB page some years ago.
Don't be expecting any WSOTG set any time soon, or indeed, ever
I spoke to him about the reissue just a few months ago and he was still open to the idea.
I'm in close contact with Kevin for years now, WSOTG will NEVER be re-release.
And to close this subject here's Kevin Tomkins' point of vue:
"Hi Xavier, hope you're well. No plans ever to re-release WSOTG or any Sutcliffe Jugend recorded before year 2000. A different band as far as I'm concerned. Too busy making new music to even think about it. A large amount of it is unfit for release in my opinion. Embarrassing. So can't see it happening. Don't want to put my name to it anymore. I don't like PE. Especially the naive early era stuff. And the copyists. Can't stand any of it. I can't relate to all that Nazi shit. Not my thing. The opposite in fact. Same with Serial killers, lost interest over twenty years ago. I get asked about releasing the old stuff a lot. I always said maybe one day, just to put them off. Now I'm just saying no.
Did you know Sutcliffe Jugend only existed for about six months in the eighties? No gigs, just a few cassettes (maybe 20?) sold to Whitehouse fans in that time. I didn't even come up with the name. Or the wsotg title! I was very much under Williams wing and influence then. I don't really think I found my own voice until 'This Is The Truth'. Believe it or not, I think our music is very much against all the things people have associated us with, we use the violent imagery in the songs to illustrate our disgust at a vile world. The lyrics are all written that way.
Hope you're that answers your question. ;)
Kevin"
Sutcliffe Jugend "Relentless" 4CD (Death Continues Records)
After the announcement they are no more, the final Sutcliffe Jugend recording is 'Relentless'. Approximately four hours of ecstatic extreme expressionism. Do not file under easy listening. It's brutal, violent unforgiving and unapologetic art. It is definitely not for the average noise or industrial music listener. A brutal and violent unjust world makes for brutal, violent and some would say 'unjust' art. We say let the world see itself before it drowns in its on shit.
With the exception of two tracks 'Relentless' was recorded in five sessions primarily using analog synthesisers, guitar and vocals. Part written, part improvised the aim was to capture the relentless intensity of their incredible late period live shows.
These are the last scheduled studio recordings of Sutcliffe Jugend, testing the listeners and indeed their own endurance limits. After this release there is nowhere else left to go. Kevin pushes his voice to the limit one more time and Paul matches him every step of the way. Both using their standard live set up plus three analogue and one digital synthesiser, the musical interplay is as brutal and vicious as ever, perhaps even more so. This is the sound of a band not going quietly and collapsing in on itself, they clearly new they only had a short time left. You have been warned, 'Relentless' lives up to its name and it's intensity has no equal. 'Relentless' is clearly not for the faint hearted.
Do not miss out on this limited edition 4CD Digipak release. It's an experience like no other. As Kevin screams on the opening title track, 'THIS IS FUCKING RELENTLESS!'
The circle is closed.
Someone already listened to Sutcliffe No More - Domestic 2CD and can comment on it?
Thanks for any contributions!
QuoteKevin Tomkins of Sutcliffe Jugend is already cooking on the audio for the 2x10Lp Set. Anders Peterson (Audio-Mastering) has mastered already 11 of the 20 Lps. "Campaign Vol.1 & Vol.2 1979-2020" 2x10 Lp-Sets is scheduled for release in April/May 2023. This 2x10Lp Set will consist of 2 individual Box-Sets with 10 records and a booklet. Box 1 will be committed to very early material by Sutcliffe Jugend and pre Sutcliffe Jugend dating back to as far as 1979 until 1983 incl material that Kevin had sent to COME still being called DEATH SQUAD before William Bennett of COME actually suggested to use Sutcliffe Jugend as name and released the famous We Spit On Their Graves Box. Tracks from the WSOTG Box-Set will be on the Vol.1 Set but it will not be released as a whole entity. Box 2 will contain the second period from 1996 until its termination in 2020 and a "Best Off" Selection by Kevin Tomkins.
Taken from the VOD-Facebook page..
Quote from: cr on March 18, 2022, 05:28:26 PM
Someone already listened to Sutcliffe No More - Domestic 2CD and can comment on it?
Thanks for any contributions!
It's quite a subdued record, more drone than noise but very vocal heavy. The concept is more interesting than the execution but I would still recommend it
Quote from: impulse manslaughter on March 18, 2022, 11:01:01 PM
QuoteKevin Tomkins of Sutcliffe Jugend is already cooking on the audio for the 2x10Lp Set. Anders Peterson (Audio-Mastering) has mastered already 11 of the 20 Lps. "Campaign Vol.1 & Vol.2 1979-2020" 2x10 Lp-Sets is scheduled for release in April/May 2023. This 2x10Lp Set will consist of 2 individual Box-Sets with 10 records and a booklet. Box 1 will be committed to very early material by Sutcliffe Jugend and pre Sutcliffe Jugend dating back to as far as 1979 until 1983 incl material that Kevin had sent to COME still being called DEATH SQUAD before William Bennett of COME actually suggested to use Sutcliffe Jugend as name and released the famous We Spit On Their Graves Box. Tracks from the WSOTG Box-Set will be on the Vol.1 Set but it will not be released as a whole entity. Box 2 will contain the second period from 1996 until its termination in 2020 and a "Best Off" Selection by Kevin Tomkins.
Taken from the VOD-Facebook page..
I'd say the demand for the Vol 1 will be huge. And not so for Vol 2. At least for me.
Yes, vol. 1 looks like a killer box.
Quote from: Kayandah on March 19, 2022, 12:14:39 AM
Quote from: cr on March 18, 2022, 05:28:26 PM
Someone already listened to Sutcliffe No More - Domestic 2CD and can comment on it?
Thanks for any contributions!
It's quite a subdued record, more drone than noise but very vocal heavy. The concept is more interesting than the execution but I would still recommend it
Thanks for your comment. Got this some days ago and I think it's really good, if I'm in the mood for something like this (which I was in the last couple days)
Cheers!
Quote from: MT on March 19, 2022, 07:08:07 PMI'd say the demand for the Vol 1 will be huge. And not so for Vol 2.
Both sets will only be available as a bundle, not separately
I was just looking into all the post-Sutcliffe Jugend material. 5 releases already, all on 4iB records..
Sutcliffe No More - Domestic
Sutcliffe No More - Consenting Adult
Slaves No more - The Unravelling
Patient K - Piss Artist
Paul Taylor - Songs From A Hospital Bed
Listened to a few samples and not sure what to think and if I should buy these. Any opinions here?
Quote from: impulse manslaughter on December 15, 2022, 02:02:11 PM
I was just looking into all the post-Sutcliffe Jugend material. 5 releases already, all on 4iB records..
Sutcliffe No More - Domestic
Sutcliffe No More - Consenting Adult
Slaves No more - The Unravelling
Patient K - Piss Artist
Paul Taylor - Songs From A Hospital Bed
Listened to a few samples and not sure what to think and if I should buy these. Any opinions here?
The single(?) from Consenting Adult (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_6RiZlQ9Fc) sounds great.
I don't know if I'm alone with my opinion, but I would like to know the reasoning behind the fact that for example you can order the album Consenting Adult from the 4iB labels bandcamp page, but the digital download is only 30 second snippets of the songs. Why not make the whole album available for digital purchase if you make it that far that you have a bandcamp page for the album? I'm probably too millenial, but seems stupid that the only option to acquire the album is paying 30 euros to get the album shipped from Singapore.
Quote from: impulse manslaughter on December 15, 2022, 02:02:11 PM
I was just looking into all the post-Sutcliffe Jugend material. 5 releases already, all on 4iB records..
Sutcliffe No More - Domestic
Sutcliffe No More - Consenting Adult
Slaves No more - The Unravelling
Patient K - Piss Artist
Paul Taylor - Songs From A Hospital Bed
Listened to a few samples and not sure what to think and if I should buy these. Any opinions here?
I like all of them, in my opinion these are great!
The boxes are up for pre-order since April 01!
https://www.vod-records.com/RELEASES_2022_and_previous-1-432.htm (https://www.vod-records.com/RELEASES_2022_and_previous-1-432.htm)
Maybe these could also be of interest for some of you:
SUTCLIFFE NO MORE - Normal CD
https://www.klanggalerie.com/gg439 (https://www.klanggalerie.com/gg439)
4iB records:
PATIENT K (Kevin Tomkins) - Butterfly Drowned In Oil CD
I never look at the VOD website. But i like how you can announce a €400 release, and all you get is a tracklist when clicked "details". No sources or short text about where this stuff is from. Perhaps speaks of the customers who will eat it up regardless.
The boxset seems pretty sucky to me. No Campaign in it's entirety? Songs are scattered in strange way etc. I think that separate reissues of classic SJ releases would be better idea for all parties involved, especially for the fans.