Leafed through the forum and couldn't find any thread on the subject. Title of thread is self-explaniatory. I would add that also older analogue equip/portable stations that process sound can be included here.
Personal agenda: I am looking into to purchase a chorus pedal and wonder if any of you fanatics have suggestions. Off late I have been drooling on the first one made by BOSS - the CE-1, but it is a very pricy piece of equip. Any suggestions on other brands that can hold this quality - as well as an expression pedal that can be hooked up to it? New - and old are welcome.
CE-1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mU6mzcCKR1k (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mU6mzcCKR1k)
BINSON ECHOREC.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Du4xm2IG53I (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Du4xm2IG53I)
Quote from: online prowler on July 02, 2013, 09:20:17 PM
BINSON ECHOREC.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Du4xm2IG53I (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Du4xm2IG53I)
I found one at a thrift store a few years ago. It seems that it worked but i had never seen any jacks/inputs that was on it, and no one could help me either so i sold it.
Quote from: Mattias G on July 02, 2013, 09:46:18 PM
I found one at a thrift store a few years ago. It seems that it worked but i had never seen any jacks/inputs that was on it, and no one could help me either so i sold it.
Aaaa, that's too bad. Might have had to go to UK for the plugs/converters. Not sure, but there is a bigger probability to get ahold of it there since its English - if it exist. Found this now:http://www.effectrode.com/magnetic-delay/binson-echorec-servicing/ (http://www.effectrode.com/magnetic-delay/binson-echorec-servicing/)
Wow that looks/sounds pretty amazing!
I got this recently, one of my rare 'good' pedal purchases (most of my stuff is behringer or second hand DOD/Ibanez/danelectro etc)
(http://www.ehx.com/assets/png640h/lpb-2ube.png)
I felt like i needed some tube drive rather than just the classic behringer mixer channel clipping sound haha. I've been so far using it as a final extra overdrive on the whole mix when playing live, sounds good I think! But will use it for other stuff too no doubt.
CHEAP pedal recommendations:
Behringer Super Fuzz (two nice fuzz settings or a really loud boost. Guitar nerd comparison reviews indicate it sounds better than the pedal it's a clone of in that it's identical but with lower noise floor)
Ibanez FZ7 (who in noise can't find a good use for a fuzz with a 'DAMAGE' switch on it? Fairly easy to find on ebay.)
Danelectro Black Paisly (actually I think it's super rare in the USA but very easy to find here in the UK for reasonable prices. Fancier bigger version of the Black Licorice: metal distortion with octave down switch)
uhh i don't really use chorus much so I don't have any advice for that.
thanks for tip! Ordered. I haven't bought any new gear for years, but using some rack mounted tube pre-amp gives good final mastering for stuff, but in live situation would be impossible to carry such thing... Have tried to live with "simulating pre-amp" with mono line only, but now all the problems appear to be solved! Lets hope it will be worth the Finnish import price...
No problem, hope it works out for you! The reason I chose this over other tube preamp/drive pedals is it has two completely separate channels and no guitar-centric tone control stuff, just clean tube preamplification. Also it actually really uses the tubes at high voltage wheras in most similarly-priced mic/di preamp boxes the tube is pretty much a sales gimmick running at a low voltage and not really doing much good.
it looks very very interesting for me as well.
I really like all electro harmonix gear I own, something I got into in the past two years.
apart from the classic big muff, I really like the cathedral reverb that is definitely what I have been looking for for many years. and the little mole bass booster.
my current favourite pedal is the http://www.zoom.co.jp/products/ms-100bt/ , a very practical and small multi effect unit that allows you putting 6 different pedals in chain and actually give a physical feel, especially in heavily distorted situation.
for the rest I use some boss pedals, I am getiting rid after some years of the digital reverb and delay since they do not fit on my current sounds, yet I am in love with the overdrive.
then I am quite fixated with some dod boxes (corrosion, meat-box, trash master, buzz box, death metal, grunge, ecc)
That zoom thing looks very interesting! tho as with other of these latest digital pedals where you can load different effects onto it etc I half feel like maybe I'd sooner cut out the middleman and just use a laptop or a tablet computer, since I'm not playing guitar and don't really need things to be in pedal format per se. It does looks really cool tho.
I've used various old zoom multi-fx (B1, G1 etc) quite a lot, they can be found very cheap these days and some of them (especially the bass ones) have some pretty weird/noise-friendly/interestingly bad effects. :)
well. good thing about this is that, although digital, the sound becomes very harsh and physical and, more than anything, you can fiddle with each pedal while playing :))) and it is very small to carry around.
I never used laptop live, a bit concerned about breaking it while moving around like a retard, and I think that mini disk/ipod was enough for backing tracks
not my thing although If I will ever get back playing live I may use it to work with videos in real-time with Isadora, maybe with the help of somebody else...
I have another zoom multi effect (cannot recall name now), and it can be REALLY nasty, especially live... I saw cain arbour live using that at full potential some years ago.
I paid it appriox 40 euros
- Cementimental -
The E.H. LBP 2 is an interesting piece of equipment. Will check it out. Very good brand in my experience. Have a couple of pedals from them - an old flanger and the Holliest grail reverb pedal. In my opinion this is one of the best reverb pedals that have been made in small scale format. Out of production now, though it is possible to come by now and then online. Note, there is a flaw w the chip. It seems to burn out/melt quite fast on some items. Seems there might be a el-circuit/power issue w the pedal. Might be one of the reasons it is not in circulation, not sure. Not all pedal are inflicted, though it is a recurring issue in forums. Nevertheless, the sound the pedal emits is unique.
Test: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QB8kvSlcBIs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QB8kvSlcBIs)
(http://www.ehx.com/assets/jpg640h/holiest-grail.jpg)
I need phaser and flanger. I'm usually not looking further than DOD. any other recommendations? I was using Boss phaser for quite some time. Not bad.
Quote from: Levas on July 14, 2013, 11:10:57 AM
I need phaser and flanger. I'm usually not looking further than DOD. any other recommendations? I was using Boss phaser for quite some time. Not bad.
Very happy w my EH Electric Mistress. Quite cold sounding.
Youtube test, not the best, but an impression: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YV2nPvnUVZQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YV2nPvnUVZQ)
DOD have any good chorus pedals?
Hey Folks!
I am researching after a cold sounding Tremolo pedal. Anyone got any recommendations? New - or old models - all are welcome.
How do you mean "cold sounding"? A tremolo just makes the volume go up and down.
Quote from: online prowler on July 14, 2013, 02:38:03 PM
I need phaser and flanger. I'm usually not looking further than DOD. any other recommendations? I was using Boss phaser for quite some time. Not bad.
Behringer Super Phase Shifter is good and cheap with various different modes including ramps and sample + hold/random as well as more normal sounds.
Quote from: Cementimental on October 09, 2013, 10:20:24 AM
How do you mean "cold sounding"? A tremolo just makes the volume go up and down.
I am thinking about the signature sound - or the quality of the sound processed by the pedal, not the function. A pedal that have a "cold" sound quality as opposed to for instance the warmth of analogue gear. Hope my response clarifies your question a bit. So far in my experience EH pedals have some "cold" qualities, though not all. I never tried this sort of pedal myself. My only experience is from seeing it used live and on records.
I believe you'd have to have a pretty bad tremelo for it to colour the sound much at all since it's not really supposed to do that; any half decent/modern one should be fairly transparent. For more unmusical sounds one with a greater variety of types of LFO might be good, eg one that can do a squarewave (going from silent to full volume with sudden steps instead of a smooth sine or triangle.)
Quote from: Cementimental on October 10, 2013, 12:48:12 AM
I believe you'd have to have a pretty bad tremelo for it to colour the sound much at all since it's not really supposed to do that; any half decent/modern one should be fairly transparent. For more unmusical sounds one with a greater variety of types of LFO might be good, eg one that can do a squarewave (going from silent to full volume with sudden steps instead of a smooth sine or triangle.)
For some reason my EH Worm on tremolo mode is higher gain and hissy. Not very great pedal as I don't like how the range knob is also the volume, but maybe the pulsar.
As for OP, when you mean a cold tremolo, do you mean like a stutter effect aka fast hard square wave lfo?
Quote from: tinnitustimulus on October 10, 2013, 01:16:41 AM
Quote from: Cementimental on October 10, 2013, 12:48:12 AM
I believe you'd have to have a pretty bad tremelo for it to colour the sound much at all since it's not really supposed to do that; any half decent/modern one should be fairly transparent. For more unmusical sounds one with a greater variety of types of LFO might be good, eg one that can do a squarewave (going from silent to full volume with sudden steps instead of a smooth sine or triangle.)
For some reason my EH Worm on tremolo mode is higher gain and hissy. Not very great pedal as I don't like how the range knob is also the volume, but maybe the pulsar.
As for OP, when you mean a cold tremolo, do you mean like a stutter effect aka fast hard square wave lfo?
Thanx guys!
As I said I have never used A Tremolo properly. Though it came to mind I tested one in a music store. That had a warm feel to it. A bit Hawaiish. Think it was A MXR, I might be wrong about that. Couldn't find the model on their site.
No, I am not thinking about a stutter effect. It is the sound colour left by the pedal as the signals travels through its circuitry. I know I am being very particular here, but that's how it is. Maybe instead of colour, tonality is a better word. Maybe we are talking about different things, I don't know, but to my ears different pedals - lets say delay efx - for an example have each a unique tonality. This is also my experience with all the other pedals I have - be it distortion, flanger, overdrive, reverb, etc. Some are cold, others are warm, some are dry or wet for instance. Of course, there are brands on the market that have a more transparent sound as [C] mentioned. In my experience Boss (the new pedals) is a little bit like this, but then again if you are looking fro something that doesn't affect your produced sound this is perfect. In ending I have to add that I own mostly old second hand pedals. Like the sound of those better the the new once I have come across, but there are exceptions.
Interesting LFO / squarewave thought. Maybe I misunderstood. Is there a Trem pedal that have this function? Could be an interesting additon w that function. Use this a lot on my synth.
Someone try the "Electo-Harmonix 8 Step program" pedal?
Quote from: Leatherface on October 10, 2013, 11:34:19 AM
Someone try the "Electo-Harmonix 8 Step program" pedal?
What kind of solution is that? Have any links as to hear the qualities?
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on July 04, 2013, 11:38:23 AM
thanks for tip! Ordered. I haven't bought any new gear for years, but using some rack mounted tube pre-amp gives good final mastering for stuff, but in live situation would be impossible to carry such thing... Have tried to live with "simulating pre-amp" with mono line only, but now all the problems appear to be solved! Lets hope it will be worth the Finnish import price...
Did you receive it yet? If so, any thoughts on the attributes?
Quote from: online prowler on October 10, 2013, 12:10:38 PM
Quote from: Leatherface on October 10, 2013, 11:34:19 AM
Someone try the "Electo-Harmonix 8 Step program" pedal?
What kind of solution is that? Have any links as to hear the qualities?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puSk25-95H0
The danelectro tuna melt seems to be one of the cheaper tremelos with a squarewave lfo "hard" option as well as the usual triangle wave.
Quote from: Cementimental on October 12, 2013, 01:34:28 PM
The danelectro tuna melt seems to be one of the cheaper tremelos with a squarewave lfo "hard" option as well as the usual triangle wave.
Thanx C! I'll check it out. A friend recommended me the same brand. Said it was high quality if one looked past the horrible pedal design.
Quote from: online prowler on October 13, 2013, 09:33:15 PM
Quote from: Cementimental on October 12, 2013, 01:34:28 PM
The danelectro tuna melt seems to be one of the cheaper tremelos with a squarewave lfo "hard" option as well as the usual triangle wave.
Thanx C! I'll check it out. A friend recommended me the same brand. Said it was high quality if one looked past the horrible pedal design.
Or try the Electro-Harmonix Pulsar. Great tremolo for a ridiculous price...
That looks pretty great!
Quote from: Leatherface on October 13, 2013, 11:38:17 PM
Or try the Electro-Harmonix Pulsar. Great tremolo for a ridiculous price...
It is relatively cheap but from my experience I found it had a hard time dealing with hot signals.. since then I've been using the Alesis MODfx Ampliton which is stereo and has far more features but it's discontinued .
I was wondering if I could somehow run my mixer through an overdrive pedal before hooking it up to the actual PA. me and my partner in noise where discussing this. Anyone have any experience with it?
You can run anything through anything, just give it a go!
The Boss ODB would be good for this since it has a mix knob.
I currently run my whole mix thru the electroharmonix 2ube for a little extra loudness/drive/tube without colouring the sound
Another possibility is to fx send everything thru the overdrive, that way you could mix the overdriven and clean sound for more control.
For that matter I often just fx send my whole mix into a spare channel in the red for extra overall distortion/loudness.
Try things.
Quote from: Leatherface on October 10, 2013, 01:14:12 PM
Quote from: online prowler on October 10, 2013, 12:10:38 PM
Quote from: Leatherface on October 10, 2013, 11:34:19 AM
Someone try the "Electo-Harmonix 8 Step program" pedal?
What kind of solution is that? Have any links as to hear the qualities?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puSk25-95H0
I have it and I cannot really say is it good or bad since it really depends on the pedal it is attached to. It is not a sort of pedal which you can plug an instrument in and hear some sort of effected result. You can use it to control some parameters of your efx pedal if it has a foot switch or expression pedal input. I am using it with Boss ME-90 and EH Ravish Sitar with variable success. It has an CV output so you can also attach it to analog synth.
Quote from: Marko-V on December 08, 2013, 08:47:31 PM
Quote from: Leatherface on October 10, 2013, 01:14:12 PM
Quote from: online prowler on October 10, 2013, 12:10:38 PM
Quote from: Leatherface on October 10, 2013, 11:34:19 AM
Someone try the "Electo-Harmonix 8 Step program" pedal?
What kind of solution is that? Have any links as to hear the qualities?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puSk25-95H0
I have it and I cannot really say is it good or bad since it really depends on the pedal it is attached to. It is not a sort of pedal which you can plug an instrument in and hear some sort of effected result. You can use it to control some parameters of your efx pedal if it has a foot switch or expression pedal input. I am using it with Boss ME-90 and EH Ravish Sitar with variable success. It has an CV output so you can also attach it to analog synth.
how is that Ravish Sitar working out for noise? I am very interested in trying one out.
Well, in my opinion ANYTHING is good (or bad) for noise making... it is only a matter of the way you use it and the structure of efx chain. I just recently bought RS second hand from some guitar oriented player (blues... I think?) who probably didn't find it very fascinating. Ravish Sitar is basically made for guitar but I found it being more interesting when combined with synth and Weird Sound Generator. Some You Tube -videos suggest also that it has a potential with bass guitar. It is probably more useful in drone stuff than hard in-your-face PE noise. But as I said, I just recently got it, so haven't had too much time testing it.
I know for a fact Karlheinz used a sitar pedal for the song "Packing" can't remember what kind it was. He seemed to be very into the pedal.
Quote from: online prowler on October 10, 2013, 04:16:04 AM
Quote from: tinnitustimulus on October 10, 2013, 01:16:41 AM
Quote from: Cementimental on October 10, 2013, 12:48:12 AM
I believe you'd have to have a pretty bad tremelo for it to colour the sound much at all since it's not really supposed to do that; any half decent/modern one should be fairly transparent. For more unmusical sounds one with a greater variety of types of LFO might be good, eg one that can do a squarewave (going from silent to full volume with sudden steps instead of a smooth sine or triangle.)
For some reason my EH Worm on tremolo mode is higher gain and hissy. Not very great pedal as I don't like how the range knob is also the volume, but maybe the pulsar.
As for OP, when you mean a cold tremolo, do you mean like a stutter effect aka fast hard square wave lfo?
Thanx guys!
As I said I have never used A Tremolo properly. Though it came to mind I tested one in a music store. That had a warm feel to it. A bit Hawaiish. Think it was A MXR, I might be wrong about that. Couldn't find the model on their site.
No, I am not thinking about a stutter effect. It is the sound colour left by the pedal as the signals travels through its circuitry. I know I am being very particular here, but that's how it is. Maybe instead of colour, tonality is a better word. Maybe we are talking about different things, I don't know, but to my ears different pedals - lets say delay efx - for an example have each a unique tonality. This is also my experience with all the other pedals I have - be it distortion, flanger, overdrive, reverb, etc. Some are cold, others are warm, some are dry or wet for instance. Of course, there are brands on the market that have a more transparent sound as [C] mentioned. In my experience Boss (the new pedals) is a little bit like this, but then again if you are looking fro something that doesn't affect your produced sound this is perfect. In ending I have to add that I own mostly old second hand pedals. Like the sound of those better the the new once I have come across, but there are exceptions.
Interesting LFO / squarewave thought. Maybe I misunderstood. Is there a Trem pedal that have this function? Could be an interesting additon w that function. Use this a lot on my synth.
It's not cheap, but the Boss Slicer pedal can be harsh tremelo (very choppy) - but I've never had a chance to play with the pedal in a setting where I could put it through it's paces. It's kinda rare, but usually tops out at $100 because it's not particularly useful in most rock n roll settings.
Quote from: JoeTheStache on December 09, 2013, 08:10:21 AM
Quote from: Marko-V on December 08, 2013, 08:47:31 PM
Quote from: Leatherface on October 10, 2013, 01:14:12 PM
Quote from: online prowler on October 10, 2013, 12:10:38 PM
Quote from: Leatherface on October 10, 2013, 11:34:19 AM
Someone try the "Electo-Harmonix 8 Step program" pedal?
What kind of solution is that? Have any links as to hear the qualities?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puSk25-95H0
I have it and I cannot really say is it good or bad since it really depends on the pedal it is attached to. It is not a sort of pedal which you can plug an instrument in and hear some sort of effected result. You can use it to control some parameters of your efx pedal if it has a foot switch or expression pedal input. I am using it with Boss ME-90 and EH Ravish Sitar with variable success. It has an CV output so you can also attach it to analog synth.
how is that Ravish Sitar working out for noise? I am very interested in trying one out.
I just noticed that I can get some nice results when using Ravish Sitar with percussions. Not necessarily meant for that use but I found by accident that it adds some character to metallic percussion with certain settings. "Experimentation is the name of the game".
For working in Doctor Dark Disturbing Labratory ( i.e. not live)
the choices of distortion and time based fx's are this pair
The Jomox T-Resonator and the W.M.D. Geiger Counter.
Both are expensive and complex, I am very pleased with the results and find the investment worth it. I am also very happy with the Boss DD-20 Giga-Delay.
modified my already japanoise-classic FX25.
(https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/t1.0-9/10489825_10152541839973659_6227748265474697083_n.jpg)
Added a fixed filter frequency knob, made the envelope faster, increased the filter range, increased the resonance horribly. = amazing harsh noise tool worthy of a precious Takashi Murakami sticker.
In the interests of actually FINISH A THING for once I resisted the temptation to turn this thing into a poorman's Sherman Filterbank but it seems like there are a lot more mods one could do, or even just the ones I did could be usefully knob-controlled if the thing was rehoused.
Quote from: JoeTheStache on December 09, 2013, 08:10:21 AM
Quote from: Marko-V on December 08, 2013, 08:47:31 PM
Quote from: Leatherface on October 10, 2013, 01:14:12 PM
Quote from: online prowler on October 10, 2013, 12:10:38 PM
Quote from: Leatherface on October 10, 2013, 11:34:19 AM
Someone try the "Electo-Harmonix 8 Step program" pedal?
What kind of solution is that? Have any links as to hear the qualities?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puSk25-95H0
I have it and I cannot really say is it good or bad since it really depends on the pedal it is attached to. It is not a sort of pedal which you can plug an instrument in and hear some sort of effected result. You can use it to control some parameters of your efx pedal if it has a foot switch or expression pedal input. I am using it with Boss ME-90 and EH Ravish Sitar with variable success. It has an CV output so you can also attach it to analog synth.
how is that Ravish Sitar working out for noise? I am very interested in trying one out.
Here is a link to a test file I made by using Alesis drum machine and Ravish Sitar (scroll down to the bottom).
http://ikuinen-kaamos.blogspot.fi/2014/11/gear-holic-part-14.html
It is quite nice'droney when
not trying to get some basic sitar sounds out of it. But once you get those fake sitar sounds (as you can hear from the middle of the test file I made) it can get a little annoying.
SHERMAN FILTERBANK Compact cased FB2 ANNOUNCED.
(https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/17966280_1496708463694117_2603449684309086069_o.jpg?oh=226c67780b1abc4270271fedc9877fab&oe=599732CE)
Fuck yes
Quote from: online prowler on April 15, 2017, 09:14:48 PM
SHERMAN FILTERBANK Compact cased FB2 ANNOUNCED.
(https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/17966280_1496708463694117_2603449684309086069_o.jpg?oh=226c67780b1abc4270271fedc9877fab&oe=599732CE)
!!!
loved the first version, but never owned one
I reckon the twp previous versions will be avail on the second market more frequent as this is launching. Of the two, I would recommend the second unit. Powerful beast.