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Quote from: GEWALTMONOPOL on October 30, 2011, 03:08:00 PM
Only someone with a name like Kjerstin could write that shit. Every Kjerstin (or Kerstin) I've met have been the annoying kind who dwell in academic/bohemian circles where they talk about African dancing and how they find solace in Kieslowki's Three Colours trilogy. What it's really all about is to compensate for a fat unshapely ass. Find them working in any library near you. Unfucked. When they hit 50 they start going to the Caribbean for sex.
That reads lika a verbatim description of recently deceased author Kerstin Thorvall -- only substitute the Caribbean for Africa. But seriously, you need to meet my mother who also happens to bear this name, as she doesn't fulfil any of your prejudiced criteria (to my knowledge, at least).
Quote from: GEWALTMONOPOL on October 31, 2011, 01:27:48 PM
I was thinking of making a poster featuring a fat old fireman half asleep in a comfy chair with a beer in his hand and an image of those cliche calendar firemen with a sixpack and then the text This is NOT who I am, and this is NOT okay! You could have so much fun with this bullshit. The different stereotypes are endless.
Also, check out the editor of this shit pile. Imagine the poster of her:
http://bitchmagazine.org/profile/kelsey-wallace
A big butted latte sipping feminist with moderate left wing views (she grew up on the mean streets of Portland) typing away on her macbook in a café all day holding a picture of a big butted latte sipping feminist with moderate left wing views (who grew up on the mean streets of Portland) typing away on her macbook in a café all day and then the text This is NOT who I am, and this is NOT okay! to complete the image of self deception. These people are so fucking EASY!
Haha, that Kelsey looks like 50% of the female students at the Library & information studies programme... And I'm talking down to the hair and glasses. Seriously. Btw, I like the one with the blond long-haired guy & the horned viking helmets...
I'd forgotten about Kerstin Thorvall. For her all less savoury traits she at least seemed brutally honest about who she was and why. I found it hard to hate her. Don't know that much about her so I could be wrong though.
But that's the thing. A name like Kerstin is quite natural for lady of your mothers age. For a 20 something it's a curse which could only find them in the above explained predicament. I'd pity them if it weren't that so many of them have pissed me off so much.
Kelsey, a walking cliche of Portland. Now who'd have thought?
best one,
(http://i.somethingawful.com/u/garbageday/2011/Photoshop_Phriday/costumes_culture/HandsomeMrFooFoo_01.jpg)
never really got that fagolution .......
That's indeed the best one!!!
Henceforth a wanking session involving watching porn will be called a rape support session! :')
I always enjoy doing the "jew test" on these f**kers texts. Just put jew instead whatever they hate and see how it reads.
Saw a copy of the SCUM manifesto in a local bookshop the other day. I actually think it is a funny, deranged book but not the classic all these feminist wants it to be. It is a hell more hateful than playboy for instance.
Anyone thinks a book called Society for cutting up Jews would get wide exposure?
according to this global guilt ridden text I own 42 slaves
http://www.slaveryfootprint.org
One of the worst cases of PC faggotry might of course be the Canadian ban of the Dire Straits song Money for Nothing. Just because it has the word faggot in it, though it's not even about a gay guy...
I tried to use the slave engine to find out how many I'm owed but it won't work. I need at least one extra hand over here. Preferably one that can read, write and type.
What the people who got upset about the Dire Straits song failed to realise is that the sheer existence of Dire Straights is offensive.
Someone is upset over Anne Frank. A guy called Michael Arnold chews them up pretty well though.
http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2011/10/28/ann-skank-trivializing-and-sexualizing-the-holocaust-for-halloween/
Shame the picture was removed. It could have been used for a good Anne Frank.
i just shaved my head and covered my self in black and white paint and went as CON-DOM.
I saw a bunch of kids trick or treating and none of'em were dressed up as sexy injuns. I was fully planned to invite them in for a moral lecture on how un-pc they are.
They should just tell kids that there are no sexy Indians. They're all fat and drunk and pretty rough-lookin'.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on November 02, 2011, 08:10:15 PM
They should just tell kids that there are no sexy Indians. They're all fat and drunk and pretty rough-lookin'.
some sexies still exist but theyre deep in the amazon. saw a couple recent documentaries and I got a little hot and bothered at times. wouldnt mind going exploring but I dont do well in hot climates.
I always swore that there was no such thing as a hot Indian (native American type not Hindu type) but right now I am dating one and she's really hot, not at all like 99.9% of the others. The women in the culture are fucking ugly as shit. I remember watching this thing on Current TV about Rape on the Reservation and thinking "who would want to rape them?" Most I know are slow moving, drunk poor idiots who get Government issued help way too much.
(http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lfhoefrokR1qctlmho1_250.gif)
Quote from: kettu on November 03, 2011, 12:23:53 AM
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on November 02, 2011, 08:10:15 PM
They should just tell kids that there are no sexy Indians. They're all fat and drunk and pretty rough-lookin'.
some sexies still exist but theyre deep in the amazon. saw a couple recent documentaries and I got a little hot and bothered at times. wouldnt mind going exploring but I dont do well in hot climates.
People live in the Amazon? I thought that place was logged to the ground years ago.
it wasnt long ago,maybe last year or the year before when they discovered a brand new tribe of people,I bet theyre dead now but there still some tribes up there.
I want to paint a better picture of my injun sweetheart, she was the doctor of the village. titties out in full tribal paint but she had on reading glasses and was working a microscope. it was hot. I might have added the glasses in my fantasies but she was doing bloodtests etc. there were childbrides(pregnant 15-16 year olds, afghanistan dancing boys is much more hardcore) too but thats facinating only in a anthropoligical sense of course.
there was something in the news recently about stopping a highway going through the rainforrest, sounds exiting and a victory for the world right? in the end of the article it said the road was almost finished.
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ludb51dgCC1qkd7o0o1_500.jpg)
Huge witch-hunt in Finland right now against a woman who said in national tv, that she is worried that value of her house might drop because treatment center for retarted(sorry disabled :-)) children is moving next door.
Jeez.
Forced male rape is always a pleasurable story to hear/read. So rare on the outside especially because men almost never speak of it happening.
I suppose that these "Occupy" camps would be magnets for people who just want to camp out and party and then some shit happens and it goes too far in some of those tents. Frotteurists would probably have a fucking hell of a great time too.
fucking hell
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/mind-your-language/2011/nov/18/mind-your-language-word-homosexual
The words homosexual and heterosexual are both clinical psychiatric descriptions of people who in older days were called sodomites - perverts who were sexually active outside the Victorian married sex-for-procreation construction. Reasonably, both terms should be dropped and considered equally offensive. So what's the word you should use now? Or just drop the whole "I'm this and you are that" definition? We're all a bunch of fuckholes after all, I mean.
There is saying in Finland: "Ei nimi miestä pahenna, ellei mies nimeä."
Translation goes: "A name doesn't make a man worse, if the man doesn't make his name worse."
Translation doesn't appear to capture whole essence of this message, but I guess it's just enough. It always makes me think of something like Brethren "Hail Aids", which makes people always think of homosexuals when they read it. They could be thinking of junkies or whatever, but first thing of all, they associate terms like "spreading sickness", "aids", "immoral lifestyles" etc with homosexuals. And this always comes from more PC end of scenesters. They make the judgement based on their gut feeling, they made the conclusion without specific word appear in lyrics. And it tells all. No change of name/term will help. They want justice for gay people, drop the names with bad associations. But even in their own brain, bad association is focused to the group of people of specific type. Not just name/term.
It is sooooo fucking boring to see how some people think new name will simply solve issues. Like if calling yourself womyn instead of woMAN, will suddenly change the reality between sexes.
I guess over here, language is already much less gender biased. In Finnish language you have no "him", "her", "his", "hers", type of words specifying gender. It is one word for human, whatever the gender.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Womyn
I would have assumed it's old news, popularized probably before half of board users was born :D
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on November 21, 2011, 05:33:44 PM
There is saying in Finland: "Ei nimi miestä pahenna, ellei mies nimeä."
Translation goes: "A name doesn't make a man worse, if the man doesn't make his name worse."
It is sooooo fucking boring to see how some people think new name will simply solve issues. Like if calling yourself womyn instead of woMAN, will suddenly change the reality between sexes.
I guess over here, language is already much less gender biased. In Finnish language you have no "him", "her", "his", "hers", type of words specifying gender. It is one word for human, whatever the gender.
First: wise proverb.
Second: of course, changing certain words in the language changes everything. Without gender-specific pronouns, I suppose Finland is the most gender-equal country in Europe? As a rhetorical trick I guess it's a clever way of highlighting where one gender is taken for granted - for example, I know a lot of people (again the feminist librarians, haha) who are actively changing certain words in their everyday life. For example, the generic pronoun "you"/"one" - as in "you don't know what you got until it's gone" or "one should not do that" - is "man" in Swedish, and the persons mentioned have begun substituting this "man" for "en" (as in English "one"). Sounds pretty dialectal actually. Or the gender neutral "hen" instead of han/he and hon/she, trying to approach Finnish. Makes me think of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBFaYtp0g4M&feature=related
http://www.guardian.co.uk/culture/2011/nov/24/frank-miller-hollywood-fascism
Miller is a genious, Miller can be a twat, but this journalist is much more stupid than him.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on November 25, 2011, 08:10:22 PM
I read some posts somewhere complaining about Frank Miller's comments. I was thinking "the only Frank Miller I've heard of does comics"; I didn't do any research to read what he wrote...
He's directed and produced a few movies in the last ten years. He's better known for writing the graphic novels of Sin City, 300, Holy Terror (the one everyone is upset with), and The Dark Knight Returns (probably the greatest Batman graphic novel of all time).
Quote from: tiny_tove on November 21, 2011, 12:58:36 PM
fucking hell
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/mind-your-language/2011/nov/18/mind-your-language-word-homosexual
This is insane to me.
The word "homosexual" makes perfect sense as the appropriate word. The prefix "Homo-" simply means "same." There is nothing derogatory, it's part of the language we have agreed on.
"Gay," on the other hand, makes far less sense because it is considered slang. It originally meant "excitement" and wasn't until later that it was somehow appointed to homosexuality.
Quote from: tiny_tove on November 21, 2011, 12:58:36 PM
fucking hell
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/mind-your-language/2011/nov/18/mind-your-language-word-homosexual
I know at least one guy who likes referring to himself as a 'homo'. I think if I was of that persuasion I'd quite like to reclaim the word 'faggot'. Who the fuck is this creep who claims to speak for all poofs?
Political correctness in the sense of being aware of how language reinforces power imbalances can be a valuable thing. The problem comes when those in power start to use the terms as if that in some way corrects the fundamental inequality. If you are detained against your will in a nut ward and being injected daily with zombie-making chemicals, you're referred to as a 'mental health service user' by these bureaucrats.
When I was involved in the early days of the Mad Pride organisation I recall the horror of the 'caring professionals' when their charges started using the word 'mad' to describe themselves, when we released an album called 'Nutters With Attitude' etc. The bluntness drew attention to the realities behind the phoney words of concern.
Quote from: Si Clark on November 29, 2011, 07:17:31 PM
Quote from: HongKongGoolagong on November 29, 2011, 06:25:32 PM
...you're referred to as a 'mental health service user' by these bureaucrats.
I'm referred to as a 'service user' at the mental place I have to go to. It's a crock of shit, what's wrong with 'patient'. It's from idiots who have no idea what they are talking about trying to make everything nice and fluffy and inoffensive but failing miserably.
God damn, THAT is fucking retarded.
http://www.slate.com/articles/life/holidays/2011/12/zwarte_piet_holland_s_favorite_racist_christmas_tradition_.html
haha, good lord!
Political correctness gone mad, all right - someone held to the ground and pepper sprayed by the police for wearing a t-shirt.
They also sell golly wogs in the same days.
Haha. You don't mess with traditions! I wonder what they would do to him if he'd claimed santa claus was a pedophile.
Btw, some Swedish racist candy that's been debated the past months:
(http://femtioelftebloggen.myshowroom.se/files/2011/10/kinapuff_720.jpg)
Quote from: tiny_tove on December 16, 2011, 09:07:35 AMThey also sell golly wogs in the same days.
The Golliwog is still popular in Britain and can be found quite easily from online sellers. I think it was last year I bought one for my womans birthday. Sold by an awfully posh furniture store down the road from me.
This place does them in Tartan. http://www.gollydollies.co.uk/
For some it wasn't enough to have them removed from Robertson's jam jars. As this 65 year old grandmother found out. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/oct/24/golliwog-race-charges-dropped-jena-mason
Quote from: pestdemon on December 16, 2011, 12:58:30 PM
Btw, some Swedish racist candy that's been debated the past months:
(http://femtioelftebloggen.myshowroom.se/files/2011/10/kinapuff_720.jpg)
Fazer is actually finnish and they have other racially stereotypish candy's too.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/38/Fazer_lakupekka_lakritsipatukka.png/250px-Fazer_lakupekka_lakritsipatukka.png)
And don't forget Neekerin Suukko = Negro's Kiss(Name was changed few years ago though hah)
(http://marikamaasikas.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/img_45131.jpg)
Fazer is certainly Finnish and the Kinapuff is one of their most popular products in Sweden. It's something I enjoyed very much as a child and due to the recent upset over the happy Chinaman (or is it a Chinagirl) in the logo I reaquainted myself with it when I was back in September. It's alright.
I remember some 15 years ago when one album wonder Jakob Hellman walked the streets of Beijing with a camera and asked people to say "ching chong pling plong". All of them, albeit it a bit bewildered, did it with a giggle. That was on national Swedish TV and no one got upset. It was silly and funny.
Quote from: pestdemon on December 16, 2011, 12:58:30 PMI wonder what they would do to him if he'd claimed santa claus was a pedophile.
Paedo Santa would probably be alright in Belgium. In Holland maybe not.
I had several golly wog.
At least two of them were given me by Afro-Europeans who could take a joke.
Neekerin Suukko
Mikko sent me one of those a few years ago.
Seriously, I want the racist candy from Denmark!
I don't know if these are particularly racist, since they portray the in good light? Tasty, soft, sweet, kiss of the negro? Like said, nowadays they are simply called "suukko" = kiss. With two negroes still in image, though.
I guess one good case of "PC faggotry" would be heavy metal band Helvetes Port from sweden playing show in Kouvola/Finland, and story goes they made some racist jokes and some good old salutes, and suddenly there is local Blood & Honour crew and some utterly drunken metallers hailing on stage and off stage, haha! And THAT went not only to local newspaper, but also the tabloids sold in all newstands. I mean, drunk hailing? What's new? I guess it's merely "news" in climate as we have now.
As a good friend in Sweden once said to me: "Men herregud, det ar väl klart att man har heilat på fest!"
Quote from: pestdemon on December 16, 2011, 12:58:30 PM
Btw, some Swedish racist candy that's been debated the past months...
Which reminds me... all you Swedes will doubtlessly recall the public outrage (fuelled by the gov't sponsored organisation Centre against Racism) around five years ago, when the major icecream manufacturer here - GB - introduced Nogger Black, a licorice version of their popular Nogger (nougat) icecream. GB were accused of propagating racisist stereotypes by using that brand name (Nogger=Nigger), coupled with the fact that the logo used for advertising was done graffiti style (associations to black street culture are of course inevitable). They rallied for consumer boycott, and quite predictably Nogger Black went off the market soon enough. Too bad, since it quickly became a favorite of mine.
(http://gfx.aftonbladet-cdn.se/image/10154476/200/normal/fc559fdec17fb/nogger200)
(http://gfx.aftonbladet-cdn.se/image/10154477/200/normal/4ef9708e357fb/logga)
Around the same time some genius brought up the fact the another of GB's longstanding bestsellers is called 88:an (The 88), which supposedly was a covert appraisal of a certain fuehrer (H*** H*****). However, this claim fell on its own absurdity and media didn't pick up on this one, so to this day we can still enjoy an 88 in the sun.
Quote from: Peterson on December 19, 2011, 01:13:11 AM
Antique stores in my town are full of little figurines like that. There's a place called "Lost In Sports" that has a section totally dedicated to 1890s-1930s "Black Face" memorabilia. Pretty great. Same store also has a section revolving around nice selection of 3rd Reich items, kind of makes you wonder about the tastes of the owners.
No shit? I need to visit that place again. Haven't been in there for ages.
So there's sort of pie in here that could be translated as "nigger baby" and the same title is written in shops and so on and I hope that nobody cares..
http://www.gaspadine.lt/patiekalas/pyragas_negriukas.html (http://www.gaspadine.lt/patiekalas/pyragas_negriukas.html)
Swedish negerboll: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chokladboll
I just don't get what's the problem with not calling it negerboll. Are the connotations to happy kids chewing on subsaharan testicles that important to people?
In Switzerland there used to be the same Moretto (little moore), including stereotyped funny African kid on the envelope. Now turned into something different.
In Italy we have this Saffron brand:
(http://www.newsfood.com/data/iNodes/2009/09/21/20090921104859-a7fb83cc//Standards/250x.jpg)
Don Denis. Restaurant in Andorra:
(http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/9052/dondenis.jpg)
(http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/4316/dondenisandorra.jpg)
Spanish sweets:
(http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/678/1ae16fdc7f11f4934c8b304.jpg)
(http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/779/20080618conguitos.jpg)
Official site: http://www.conguitos.com
PC article: http://onafrica.org/2010/03/03/bgm1267614467
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on December 20, 2011, 08:12:11 PM
Brazil nuts were called "nigger toes."
They're still called Nigger Toes. One episode of Louis CK's show on FX, his aunt used the term. She handed him nut & said "crack this nigger toe for me".
every year for christmas we set out a dish and my family takes bets on which grandparent will call them Nigger Toes first.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on December 20, 2011, 08:12:11 PMThey're still called Nigger Toes. One episode of Louis CK's show on FX, his aunt used the term. She handed him nut & said "crack this nigger toe for me".
Off-topic, but that's a GREAT show. And I hate a majority of TV programming.
I guess it's kinda on-topic, because Louis CK is pretty un-PC haha
classic Italian ad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQ3GfgOla2M
this guy of the next spot is called Isaac George, an excellent actor who used to work in theatre with the likes of Carmelo Bene and became the Italian stereotype for the stupid black man working as a servant and talking with weird accent. modern day slave.
in person is a really nice/acculturate person, very active in social organisations. I filmed a short with him (where, guess what, he was playing the immigrant) and wrote some stuff for a little play he helped directing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98MxVG1XDOM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrYIZir5uz4
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7159/6640573905_58cf5b49ed_b.jpg)
god, that ad is fucking hilarious
Quote from: GEWALTMONOPOL on January 05, 2012, 01:50:22 PM
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7159/6640573905_58cf5b49ed_b.jpg)
Fuck me this really NEEDS photoshopping
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on December 16, 2011, 10:20:26 PM
I don't know if these are particularly racist, since they portray the in good light? Tasty, soft, sweet, kiss of the negro? Like said, nowadays they are simply called "suukko" = kiss. With two negroes still in image, though.
I guess one good case of "PC faggotry" would be heavy metal band Helvetes Port from sweden playing show in Kouvola/Finland, and story goes they made some racist jokes and some good old salutes, and suddenly there is local Blood & Honour crew and some utterly drunken metallers hailing on stage and off stage, haha! And THAT went not only to local newspaper, but also the tabloids sold in all newstands. I mean, drunk hailing? What's new? I guess it's merely "news" in climate as we have now.
In Germany were the same debatte. "Negerkuss" = Negro Kiss is now changed. Also "Mohrenkopf" = Negro Head is not anymore "good"
(http://blog.schoggo-tv.de/wp-content/uploads/2006.04.10.01.01_negerkuss_affengeil.jpg)
Hailing on Stage, drunk or not = Übernazi. Only if you have some Asslickers and "Fans" like Watain with German Zine RockHard, then you are not Nazi
Quote from: GEWALTMONOPOL on January 05, 2012, 01:50:22 PM
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7159/6640573905_58cf5b49ed_b.jpg)
Spot the male in this ad.......I can't
Those girls are probably safe from anything too over powering or challenging. Then again one never knows. I've heard some women mention that the men most absorbed by womens issues and equality bollocks have been the ones who've treated them the worst. What a paradox if in reality it turned out that the drooling cavemen who don't give a toss about equality are actually the ones who treat them more like equals. Perish the thought.
Good that they have the token interracial gay couple - the other three could just as well be siblings. Which would make the campaign much better if they were. Way to go reinforcing the gender structures! Now I'll definitely never rape anyone!
On the racist topic: they tried to make some headlines the other day when Norwegian BM band TAAKE was nominated for the Norwegian grammy, because their lyrics are supposedly islamophobic. Unfortunately they missed the part with Hoest painting a swastika on his chest as a joke in Germany, that would've caused much more indignation & outrage.
So when she changed her mind I stopped... and walked off never to be seen again. She sent me a few texts and tried to ring me once but I ignored her. I have no time for prick teasing cunts. Also, I wouldn't dream of doing something to give her the chance of accusing me of anything. Did I really look THAT gullible to you dear?
So when she was drunk I backed off... and missed out on potentially the dirtiest most mind and cockblowing fuck in existence. Drunk chicks are ten times better in bed than sober ones. Lesson learned there. I won't be that pious next time. And good luck accusing me of anything when you were pissed out of your skull darling.
"He" you said? That's your scene chief, not mine. Do what you like.
So when I paid for our date she didn't owe me... and I was the chump who fell for it but at least it didn't happen twice. See first paragraph. Cock tease, gold digger, both are much the same and to be avoided.
Quote from: GEWALTMONOPOL on January 09, 2012, 04:19:05 PMSo when I paid for our date she didn't owe me... and I was the chump who fell for it but at least it didn't happen twice. See first paragraph. Cock tease, gold digger, both are much the same and to be avoided.
So when he paid for our date I took him home and we fucked each other silly. He even respected me in the morning. A much nicer experience than the last guy who, when I fobbed him off, called me a gold digging cunt and then told everyone about it.
Quote from: GEWALTMONOPOL on January 09, 2012, 04:19:05 PM
So when she changed her mind I stopped... and walked off never to be seen again. She sent me a few texts and tried to ring me once but I ignored her. I have no time for prick teasing cunts. Also, I wouldn't dream of doing something to give her the chance of accusing me of anything. Did I really look THAT gullible to you dear?
So when she was drunk I backed off... and missed out on potentially the dirtiest most mind and cockblowing fuck in existence. Drunk chicks are ten times better in bed than sober ones. Lesson learned there. I won't be that pious next time. And good luck accusing me of anything when you were pissed out of your skull darling.
"He" you said? That's your scene chief, not mine. Do what you like.
So when I paid for our date she didn't owe me... and I was the chump who fell for it but at least it didn't happen twice. See first paragraph. Cock tease, gold digger, both are much the same and to be avoided.
LOL.
THANK YOU. If it isn't the truth most of the time!
Quote from: Human Larvae on January 09, 2012, 02:33:41 PM
Quote from: GEWALTMONOPOL on January 05, 2012, 01:50:22 PM
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Spot the male in this ad.......I can't
Easy! They are all, bar the bottom left pic, to the immediate right of the puppy eyed mangina on their arm. Probably aching to find a slobbering, hard drinking, smelly, no frills pile of misogynist trash for a bit of rough on the side.
lol
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7159/6640573905_58cf5b49ed_b.jpg)
Look at the chink slut top left. Her facial expression says "I got your balls motherfucker and I'm ready to squeeze if you don't cater to my every whim. You read me? Huh, motherfucker?" while the guys face is all "Yeah, she got my balls motherfuckers! You hear that? MY BALLS MOTHERFUCKAHS!!!" nostrils flaring.
Or the two benders at the bottom. Blondie: "He swears he didn't but my ring piece still aches. How could that be?" in Barney Gumble's voice. Darkie: "Don't fucking look at me! I had nothing to do with it.".
The guy in the top right corner looks like a cross between Peter Andre and Dane Bowers with sad eyes of a mentally neutered puppy that says "Just kill me, kill me PLEASE!!!". His owner has the smug smile of a woman who's just been sexually satisfied, but not by him. Probably one of the African refugees down at the volunteer centre where she likes to help out.
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_OMGD4B1ySno/TK955F8cLEI/AAAAAAAAAeo/VrBtNiiM460/s1600/D1.jpg)
...and escaped contracting junkie whore AIDS by the skin of my teeth.
Yesterday, guy arrives to school, stabs 18 year old (ex?)girlfriend, escapes with car, apparently commits suicide by collision with truck. Girl in hospital with potentially lethal upper torso wound.
I'm sure if he saw some of these images above, there's really no message what would have made bitchy chicks ok.
(http://dailydish.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451c45669e20162fdd35913970d-550wi)
kinda like this french anti amoking campaign though
(http://dublnr.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/anti_smoking.jpg)
fuck this last one is a masterpiece
Quote from: Human Larvae on January 10, 2012, 12:24:41 PM
(http://dublnr.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/anti_smoking.jpg)
For some reason, all this did was arouse me.
should've really grabbed her hair , oh and mascara-run-out !
oh you dirty boys
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_KNKNrrvs9Es/S4qxS6-JIKI/AAAAAAAAAjw/apgMT_7A8fM/s1600/attal-tabac1.jpg)
Quote from: GEWALTMONOPOL on January 09, 2012, 04:19:05 PM
So when she changed her mind I stopped... and walked off never to be seen again. She sent me a few texts and tried to ring me once but I ignored her. I have no time for prick teasing cunts. Also, I wouldn't dream of doing something to give her the chance of accusing me of anything. Did I really look THAT gullible to you dear?
So when she was drunk I backed off... and missed out on potentially the dirtiest most mind and cockblowing fuck in existence. Drunk chicks are ten times better in bed than sober ones. Lesson learned there. I won't be that pious next time. And good luck accusing me of anything when you were pissed out of your skull darling.
"He" you said? That's your scene chief, not mine. Do what you like.
So when I paid for our date she didn't owe me... and I was the chump who fell for it but at least it didn't happen twice. See first paragraph. Cock tease, gold digger, both are much the same and to be avoided.
[antithesis].....So when he paid for our date I took him home and we fucked each other silly. He even respected me in the morning. A much nicer experience than the last guy who, when I fobbed him off, called me a gold digging cunt and then told everyone about it.
Yep, these are seriously great and couldn't be more true.
this wins on everything we posted until now
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=XP4clbHc4Xg#!
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on January 24, 2012, 09:12:39 PM
I think all the bullies in the video are all white but when I was in school, eons ago, I remember bullies as being mostly hispanic & black- not people I had personal experiences with but watching fights, arguments,e tc.
In the 6th Grade I had a rather white trash guy picking on me. I finally had enough & punched him inthe face after getting shoved. Problem was he was a good bit taller than me + standing on steps above me so I ended up with a black eye AND one of my punches missed, hitting a handicapped kid! We all ended up in the principle's office; the trailer trash was suspended & I was sent home for the day.
Hah! Doesn't that constitute a hate crime in your part of the world?
We had about 4-5 non-Swedes at my school, half of them obnoxious jackasses, but way outnumbered by the rednecks with Viking t-shirts. Though I think the first guys to harass the guy in the cafeteria in the video were black; the offense even worse when he was attacked by "one of his own" the way I interpreted the minute of that song I could stand watching....
That happened a looooong time before hate crimes were invented.
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"Woman is not a punchbag" -> Sounds hilarious, hehe...
I wanted more naked women protesting.
http://youtu.be/Bmo4iFwAh4M (http://youtu.be/Bmo4iFwAh4M)
this is fucking genious ahahah
Quote from: P-K on January 30, 2012, 09:01:29 AM
http://youtu.be/Bmo4iFwAh4M (http://youtu.be/Bmo4iFwAh4M)
Good lord that is great!
brilliant!
When it's eastern europe, the activist girls look like models.
Just take the feminist rally to west and you got something else..
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on January 30, 2012, 10:06:36 PM
When it's eastern europe, the activist girls look like models.
Just take the feminist rally to west and you got something else..
Eastern women are naturally more beautiful, 9/10.
Unlike the fucking hogs and sows of the west, thats for sure.
Women in Africa are HOT AS HELL! Especially those missing limbs.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on January 31, 2012, 01:03:11 AM
Women in Africa are HOT AS HELL!
Goddamn right. White women have proven to be such a fucking bore. And by white women, I mean the plain janes of America.
Quote from: Ashmonger on January 27, 2012, 03:30:57 PM
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"Woman is not a punchbag" -> Sounds hilarious, hehe...
A hot tip to lessen the chances of rape, don't walk the streets with your tits hanging out.
I have a good one for school violence with a likely PC twist. I got in an argument over bullshit I don't even remember with a Greek girl at college and ended up calling her a whore or something to that effect. Not that she was totally undeserving but it was immature and stupid. I was 17. A week or so later I'm attacked by two arab brothers in the class room. Turns out she cried about her ordeal to a wannabe gangster friend with connections and he sent those two apes my way. As they cornered me I thumped one of them hard enough for him to go down. The other one tried to jump me but was held back by the guy in the desk next to me. They left like a couple of chumps. Still didn't make it less unsettling. A week passed and I stayed at home for fear of further attacks. Meanwhile the principal gave her enough of a third degree for her to admit she was behind it. She should have been expelled for that but she turned on the water works. "Please don't tell my parents, we're Greek, you have no idea how harsh the punishment would be" lalala and so forth. You probably think well tough shit little girl, should have thought of that before you decided to go gangsta. I do. Principal said "OK, don't do it again". For all his old school no nonsense man antics he didn't have the balls to expel her. He kindly offered me a different place of learning though which I respectfully told him to shove up his ass. I strongly suspect her status as an immigrant had plenty to do with it. It was fucking weak.
I saw a stand-up comedian not too long do a bit about Africians. He said Africians do not like American blacks; funniest part was that the women are so dark, "they'd step out of the shadows and scare the shit out of you".
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on January 31, 2012, 08:37:12 PM
I saw a stand-up comedian not too long do a bit about Africians. He said Africians do not like American blacks; funniest part was that the women are so dark, "they'd step out of the shadows and scare the shit out of you".
nick dipaolo? hes pretty funny. could be more offensive but hes getting older I guess.
definetly not pc to talk about but I think its funny that younger nonpales here immedietly adopt the hippidy hop lifestyle and fashion and get a bumb in streetcredibility even though in my mind thats an american thing before its a race thing. a product from the usa. its even funnier when non black non pales do it. on the other spectrum it must be amusing to almost everybody that metal guys dress like leather daddys.
I got to hand it to the turks, they made up their own style, turboshoes, tight shirts and 90s discohair.
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variations of these things. because they are short fuckers.
edit: recently I thought about the indian fashion thing thats been criticized from both angles. I think considering that they were wiped out, wearing their clothes as a hip thing is on the same line as going out in blackface but people woulf freak out if the young ladies of the world started doing that.
the fact that the injun paraphanelia was made by some big money grabbing company instead diy makes it even tastier.
yeah wagon burner is the title they played it live at a show i organized with my father rip in 96 along with involved patriots and aggravated assault 30$ beer open 300+ drunk skinhead in a litle village ste-gertrude , qc next mornig the show was in the newspaper frontpage and my father nearly lost is job because of it and our house was in the tv news ...
mr Bean vs PC TV host
Rowan Atkinson: BBC should have been allowed to drop Miriam O'Reilly
Actor says former Countryfile presenter's successful ageism case was an 'attack on creative free expression'
At odds over age: Rowan Atkinson and Miriam O'Reilly
The BBC should have been free to drop Miriam O'Reilly from Countryfile without attracting any accusations of age discrimination, according to comedian Rowan Atkinson, in a controversial intervention into the debate about the lack of older women on television.
The 57-year-old Blackadder, Mr Bean and Johnny English star said – in a letter to Radio 4's The Media Show – that O'Reilly's successful age discrimination case against the BBC amounted to an "attack on creative free expression" and that television was the wrong place to deal with anti-discrimination issues.
Atkinson wrote that he did not blame O'Reilly for taking legal action, but added that his argument "would be that the creative industries are completely inappropriate environments for anti-discrimination legislation and that the legal tools she used should never have been available to her".
In January 2011, O'Reilly won a landmark age discrimination case against the BBC after she was one of four women in their 40s or 50s who were dropped from a peaktime revamp of BBC1's Countryfile.
She never returned to the programme, but has since hosted a daytime spin-off of Crimewatch. O'Reilly quit the BBC in January, 12 months into a three-year BBC contract, to set up the Women's Equality Network with the lawyer who secured her tribunal victory, Camilla Palmer.
Atkinson said O'Reily's complaint was no more sensible than "Pierce Brosnan complaining that he was sacked from the role of James Bond for being too old" and that true creative freedom for both Bond films and Countryfile could only mean that producers should have complete artistic latitude.
"If either at the outset of a TV programme, or at any time during its screen life, you want to replace an old person with a young person, or a white person with a black person, or a disabled straight with an able-bodied gay, you should have as much creative freedom to do so as you have to change the colour of John Craven's anorak," Atkinson wrote.
O'Reilly, who was not invited to take part in the programme, told MediaGuardian: "I think very few people will agree with Mr Atkinson. At one time we didn't think black people should sit next to white people on a bus but fortunately we live in a fair and civilised society."
She added: "Television has an enormous influence on shaping society and how we see each other and we have got to have fair representation of everyone on TV. We can't leave it up to the whims of the so-called creatives.
"It was very unfortunate that I had to take legal action against the BBC for them to fairly represent women and older women. I would have liked them to have done so without me having to take action but it has already made a difference already. Mark Thompson has said it was a turning point in the representation of older women on screen."
Atkinson's intervention comes at a point when the BBC has finally admitted it has a problem with under representing older women on screen, after years of criticism.
Mark Thompson, the BBC director general, acknowledged earlier this month that the broadcaster does not have enough older female newsreaders and presenters.
Thompson said O'Reilly's age-discrimination tribunal win had been an important "wake-up call" for the BBC, adding that the corporation had a case to answer over the lack of older women in key news and current affairs presenting roles.
"First, that there is an underlying problem, that – whatever the individual success stories – there are manifestly too few older women broadcasting on the BBC, especially in iconic roles and on iconic topical programmes," he said.
"Second, that as the national broadcaster and one which is paid for by the public, the BBC is in a different class from everyone else, and that the public have every right to expect it to deliver to a higher standard of fairness and open-mindedness in its treatment both of its broadcasters and its audiences."
Thompson is due to meet with Nadine Dorries and other MPs on Monday, 27 February, to discuss the representation of women on and off screen.
The meeting was arranged by culture minister Ed Vaizey following a Commons debate on gender balance in broadcasting which was proposed by Dorries and supported by Lib Dem MP Tessa Munt.
http://www.youtube.com/embed/qfIktdmeIGU
Oh man, do you know who Nadine Dorries is? She's quite milfy and t h i c k a s s h i t!
Quote from: GEWALTMONOPOL on February 23, 2012, 02:24:35 PM
Oh man, do you know who Nadine Dorries is? She's quite milfy and t h i c k a s s h i t!
Are you talking about a different Nadine Dorries than I am thinking about because this bitch is not milfy at all, and her thickness is that boring, gross mom thickness...
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I
might fuck her
daughter if I was really drunk but I don't even know about that.
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That would be her. Not everyone likes the same thing and that's alright.
Quote from: RyanWreck on February 23, 2012, 08:01:44 PMI might fuck her daughter if I was really drunk but I don't even know about that.
Good for you and best of luck if you decide to have a go.
not really PC oriented, but definitely touches some nerves.
discussions about toddler muder considered simply as after-birth abortion
http://blogs.bmj.com/medical-ethics/2012/02/28/liberals-are-disgusting-in-defence-of-the-publication-of-after-birth-abortion/
Straight and narrow: how pop lost its gay edge
From the blues to the Beatles, from the Who to Nirvana, the biggest acts in pop have been hugely shaped by gay culture. Why has that spirit now disappeared?
Alexis Petridis
guardian.co.uk, Tuesday 28 February 2012 21.30 GMT
Brian Epstein
New job opportunities ... Beatles' manager Brian Epstein. Photograph: David Magnus/Rex Features
Nicky Wire laughs. "I'm not sure where we got the slogan from," he says, of the T-shirt the Manic Street Preachers produced in 1993 bearing the striking legend: "All rock'n'roll is homosexual." Wire, the band's bass-player and lyricist, goes on. "I'm sure it's slightly nicked. I remember Richey [Edwards, the band's late guitarist] talking about self-love being such an essential part of rock'n'roll. That seemed to be his twist. It fitted into a lot of what we believed in: narcissism, nihilism, self-love, self-delusion. All those things made for thrilling rock'n'roll."
To the artist Jeremy Deller, the slogan was "just the most offensive, brilliant thing you could put on a T-shirt regardless of whether it was true". Deller has borrowed it for the title of a discussion that takes place tonight as part of his new show, Joy in People, at London's Hayward gallery. "It's as much about pop's ability to provoke as it is about homosexuality in rock and pop," he says, although you could argue that those two things are linked.
As the critic Jon Savage points out, even rock'n'roll's very roots, the blues, contained a weird gay subculture. The genre was home to songs such as George Hannah's Freakish Man Blues, Luis Russell's The New Call of the Freaks, and Kokomo Arnold's Sissy Man Blues. "I woke up this morning with my pork grindin' business in my hand," offers Arnold, adding, "Lord, if you can't send me no woman, please send me some sissy man."
In Britain, rock's relationship with gay culture really began with the rise of the gay rock manager: first Larry Parnes, with his "stable of stars" (Billy Fury, Tommy Steele, Georgie Fame, Marty Wilde) then Brian Epstein (the Beatles), Simon Napier-Bell (the Yardbirds), Kit Lambert (the Who). Napier-Bell, who started out as a musician and went on to be Wham!'s manager, explains the job's attraction: "At a time when being gay was illegal, and the only way to live as an out gay man was to work in the theatre or as a hairdresser, pop management offered a new opportunity. So a lot of gays started to dabble in it."
And then there were the managers who, while not necessarily gay themselves, simply saw the promotional value of playing the gay card, encouraging campness and flamboyance in their charges: Andrew Loog Oldham, who was fascinated with gay culture, is credited with encouraging such qualities in the Stones. Ken Pitt did a similar thing with David Bowie, introducing the singer to the work of the Velvet Underground and the dancer Lindsay Kemp, whose troupe Bowie ended up joining.
Why the bands were drawn to gay managers is a moot point. The Who's Pete Townshend has claimed there was a confusion in sexual identity in the early 1960s. "The first manifestation of it was kids who were born in 1945 deciding they want to enter manhood using a different set of semiotics," he told Savage last year, in an interview for Mojo. On the mod scene from which the Who sprung, he explained, "it was seen to be incredibly cool – you had to be brave to be a rent boy".
Napier-Bell thinks the reasons were more prosaic. "All the young guys in those days could see that gay men were a lot more interesting than straight men. They had nicer cars, more disposable income, flats that young guys could only dream of having, and no family to hold them back. Most kids aspired to have such a life – but of course, without the gay sex."
Whatever the cause, the effect on the bands was dramatic. For one thing, Napier-Bell claims such managers encouraged their bands to be more confrontational, stoking the surly, anti-establishment attitude that was to become a definitive part of rock's makeup. "Faced with the absurdity of being a criminal just because your dick faced the wrong way," he says, "gays didn't have much respect for other aspects of the law, drugs included. And groups were encouraged to do outrageous things to publicise themselves."
The new breed of managers, he says, also created a new masculine archetype for musicians. "Andrew [Loog Oldham] was going through a very camp phase – he slung his fur coat around his shoulders and waved his hands a lot. Jagger never used those mannerisms before Andrew took them on. It was Mick falling in love with Andrew's campness."
By the early 1970s, following the rise of David Bowie, the influence of gay culture on rock music had become so pronounced that you could find Ian Hunter of Mott the Hoople grumbling, in his Diary of a Rock'n'Roll Star, about bands "who were hard-driving and straight" turning "poovy" to fit in. A decade later, the charts were full of gay rock and pop. In 1984, the biggest band of the year was Frankie Goes to Hollywood, the hot new pop act was Bronski Beat, the Smiths (whose frontman projected a deeply ambiguous sexuality) dominated indie music, and there was a plethora of explicitly gay-themed disco and hi-NRG hits, Divine's You Think You're a Man among them.
At the dawn of the 1990s, the biggest band in the world were Nirvana, who certainly weren't homosexual, but whose frontman was given to wearing a dress and writing lyrics suggesting "everyone is gay" (All Apologies). When Savage met Cobain in 1993, the singer said Nirvana had "the most pro-gay stance by a commercially successful rock band" and suggested that one of the effects of their success might be a loosening of attitudes in the US rock scene. "It's getting better now that alternative music is finally getting accepted," said Cobain.
It all rather poses the question: what happened? Twenty years on, rock seems more rigidly heterosexual than at any point in its history. Gay acts from Antony Hegarty to Rufus Wainwright to Perfume Genius exist on the commercial margins; and, while Lady Gaga's gay-friendly, high-camp dominates the pop charts, the really big rock stars are "straight in the widest sense", as Savage puts it. "I think the crucial point about contemporary pop culture," he adds, "is that people are scared to be different because they'll be called gay. How has that happened? It's a reversal of everything that made British rock music great."
One theory is that Cobain couldn't have been more wrong. You could argue that the mainstream success of putatively "alternative" rock in mid-1990s Britain actually saw a narrowing of attitudes, not merely because it coincided with the rise of lad culture, but because – in the wake of Oasis's stratospheric success – indie bands realised they could achieve hitherto-unimaginable commercial success if they toned their sexuality down to appeal to a mass market. We still live in a post-Britpop era, where rock music is prosaic and "honest" rather than glamorous and imaginative.
Savage thinks rock's ongoing prosaicness is symptomatic of a wider cultural shift. "There's a current mode of solipsism, where you don't want to be challenged, you just want to have your own life reflected back at you. It's down to the way the internet has grown up, the whole apparent democratisation of the idea of skill – that skill and experience don't matter and that you're as good as anyone else. There's the disastrous impact of reality shows, the whole impulse to be famous, the idea that fame is the way to go."
Wire echoes this notion: "It's like that Ballardian idea that ultimately everyone will be the star of their own movie. And if you are, you don't need to live through other people like rock stars. Your ego's being fed by yourself."
Most depressing of all, there might be a wider implication, in terms of the decline in tolerance of homosexuality among teenagers. A 2009 survey found that eight in 10 UK secondary-school teachers reported hearing such homophobic insults as "poof", "dyke", "queer" and "faggot"; while 90% had witnessed children being subjected to homophobic bullying.
But there is another way of looking at it, says Napier-Bell, who thinks the lack of gay influence on rock music is a sign of increasing tolerance. "There's not much gay influence to be seen in the music business these days because gays are accepted, nobody cares. Young people are so aware of all things gay that there's nothing new for them to take from it. Gays have gone normal. It's all rather boring."
On that last point at least, Savage agrees. Without the influence of gay culture, he says, rock music is somehow lacking. "What do you want to do? Do you want to open everything up or close everything down? When you open everything up, you get a surge of excitement. When you close everything down, it's just business as usual." He lets out an exasperated sigh. "It's all so dreary."
• All Rock'n'Roll is Homosexual, an evening hosted by Alexis Petridis with Jon Savage and Nicky Wire, is at the Queen Elizabeth Hall, London SE1, tonight. Details: southbankcentre.co.uk/deller
Would you even think about it...
Low IQ & Conservative Beliefs Linked to Prejudice
http://www.livescience.com/18132-intelligence-social-conservatism-racism.html (http://www.livescience.com/18132-intelligence-social-conservatism-racism.html)
Now I'm oficially practically retard.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on March 02, 2012, 08:09:33 PM
http://www.livescience.com/16746-conservatives-disgust-political-views.htm
"Most people would likely avert their eyes when passing by a man with a mouth full of writhing worms, or, say, the sight of a pile of excrement. But some are more disgusted than others, and new research suggests those individuals who respond with a more intense "yuck" are more likely to hold conservative political views and specifically are more likely to oppose same-sex marriage."
Science is awesome!
And from that quote it is obvious that people should be made to look at piles of shit to make them more liberal and support same-sex marriage.
European commission criticised for 'racist' ad
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/mar/06/european-commission-criticised-racist-ad
Retarded commercial:
http://newsone.com/entertainment/newsonestaff4/glee-rword-psa-retarded-nword-video/
this video has been considered racist LOOOL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQREDQjfzC4
here is the explanation of the video. pc cunts do not play videogames
http://ec.europa.eu/enlargement/press_corner/whatsnew/news/120306_en.htm
I think it's great that you can stop anything by jsut whippping up a anti-racist/whatever shitstorm. I think it's racist of the anti-racists to give away that kind of negative attitude towards foreign martial arts cultures. If it'd been a horde of africans with machetes or islamist towelheads on camels with swords drawn, then yeah maybe a bit racist. If you don't get the Tarantino-reference, you're just dumb and shouldn't watch youtube at all. Or maybe just too old...
it's an ugly spot though, this can't be denied.
also: why capoeira? are there that many brasilian immigrants in europe, apart from trannies?
maybe a transexual martial artist would have been more honest.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2110959/Does-listening-rock-make-racist-Five-minutes-Bruce-Springsteen-makes-students-favour-white-people-others.html#ixzz1oLUScluQ
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on March 14, 2012, 12:13:30 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2110959/Does-listening-rock-make-racist-Five-minutes-Bruce-Springsteen-makes-students-favour-white-people-others.html#ixzz1oLUScluQ
holy shit, this is beyond retarded
loool. this really made my day.
currently in Italy there is a lot of talking regarding an international committee who would like to force Italy to band from school Dante's Divine comedy since it feature explicit homophobic, antisemitic and anti-islamic rants.
They should ban the bible then, the Talmud, the Koran, Shakespeare, the list is endless..
Quote from: tiny_tove on March 14, 2012, 10:50:43 AM
currently in Italy there is a lot of talking regarding an international committee who would like to force Italy to band from school Dante's Divine comedy since it feature explicit homophobic, antisemitic and anti-islamic rants.
Wow, that really is retarded. But I guess a ban is much easier (cheaper!) than actually trying to teach kids to be able to read critically? Perhaps young generations with a critical mindset isn't what they want, easier just to shy away from the problems & go watch some innocuous idiocy on the tv I guess.
this is one point... but you know they are talking about the book that is considereng one of the founding texts of Italian modern language... even an idiot can understand that what people were thinking back in those days are not the thought of today and must be placed in context.
yesterday even the main left wing news programs laughed about it
France criminalizes citizens who visit terrorist and hate Web sites (http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57402958-93/france-criminalizes-citizens-who-visit-terrorist-and-hate-web-sites/?tag=mncol)
Is that a decision or just a suggestion? Sounds extreme, but not far from the contemporary reality I guess. This time they needed three dead soldiers & a mini-mass murder to enforce complete military control over the whole region (or how the French municipalities are governed) - how much will it take in a few years before they ring the terrorist alarm & seize complete control over the whole infrastructure? So far, no connections to Al-Qaeda whatsoever, except perhaps ideological. But of course, the common citizen needn't be alarmed, they do it for our safety...
I guess it's just a suggestion with a conspicuous headline. Either way, a ridiculous idea...
"The participants were then called in and told they had the opportunity to give feedback about how their tuition money should be distributed to four student groups - called the Centres of African American Studies, Latino American Studies, Arab American Studies, and Rural and Agricultural Studies."
This makes no sense because Rural and Agricultural Studies could potentially produce decent jobs in the farming industry. The other 3 are fairly meaningless even if you belong to those particular ethnic groups.
And, since when is farming only for white people? That question is bias as fuck and if ONLY 35% of those kids said distribution to to R&A was the proper choice, the question becomes "are American schools teaching kids to simply waste their money on stupid shit only to please minorities?".........oh, wait; yes, they are.
It should have been 100% for R&A Studies, regardless of race.
"Rural and Agricultural Studies"
They meant redneck and hillibilly studies probably.
Quote from: PTM Jim on April 05, 2012, 08:50:44 AM
This makes no sense because Rural and Agricultural Studies could potentially produce decent jobs in the farming industry. The other 3 are fairly meaningless even if you belong to those particular ethnic groups.
The idea that academic study is necessarily vocational is a relatively recent one, certainly not something I like. Fuck the work ethic!
Last time I was at a noise show at one of my favourite UK venues (a nice co-op kinda place) I noted with amusement that they had a notice up about how they need to formulate a safer space policy. Here is a link to one of my favourite passive-aggressive 'safer space policies' - http://sissycollective.org/safer-spaces/
This is no space for violence, for touching people without their consent, for being intolerant of someone's religious beliefs or lack thereof, for being creepy, sleazy, racist, ageist, sexist, hetero-sexist, trans-phobic, able-bodiest, classist, sizeist, or for using any other behavior or language that may perpetuate oppression.If you experience or witness any behavior that crosses your boundaries or makes you feel uncomfortable, or if you are feeling like you would like to talk to someone anonymously about anything, please ask our safer spaces representative.Priceless stuff. The New Direction Fest one (can't find it now) which they mostly got this from had extra straightedge anti-booze and drugs rhetoric which made it even funnier and more infuriating.
Gunther Grass seems to have causes some stir with a poem on Israel
http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2012/apr/05/gunter-grass-israel-poem-iran
Quote from: tiny_tove on April 06, 2012, 10:16:14 AM
Gunther Grass seems to have causes some stir with a poem on Israel
http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2012/apr/05/gunter-grass-israel-poem-iran
How sleazy of a supposedly respectable newspaper like The Guardian to print a heavily edited and misleading translation of what was already an outburst of senility in an attempt to make it seem even more ridiculous. The original is at http://www.sueddeutsche.de/kultur/gedicht-zum-konflikt-zwischen-israel-und-iran-was-gesagt-werden-muss-1.1325809 - shame on Luke Harding and Harriet Sherwood.
Not PC faggotry but a response to PC faggotry and it's beautiful!
http://takimag.com/article/torch_mobs_for_tolerance_jim_goad/print#axzz1rWyqv9qH
Quote from: GEWALTMONOPOL on April 09, 2012, 02:38:01 PM
Not PC faggotry but a response to PC faggotry and it's beautiful!
http://takimag.com/article/torch_mobs_for_tolerance_jim_goad/print#axzz1rWyqv9qH
great read!
Quote from: GEWALTMONOPOL on April 09, 2012, 02:38:01 PM
Not PC faggotry but a response to PC faggotry and it's beautiful!
http://takimag.com/article/torch_mobs_for_tolerance_jim_goad/print#axzz1rWyqv9qH
Thanks for posting this. I had no idea that Jim Goad was writing for Taki now. Taki Theodoracopulos could be seen as a kind of IRL troll, I remember first seeing his writing back in the 80s and feeling confused in my response. http://www.laweekly.com/2006-05-18/news/something-to-offend-everyone/ http://bfulk.tumblr.com/post/635173090/excerpts-from-vanity-fair-interview-with-taki
Goad has been writing for Taki at least a couple of years now. There's been a BIG hoohaa on Taki over this article by a John Derbyshire during the last few days.
http://takimag.com/article/the_talk_nonblack_version_john_derbyshire#axzz1rY8GTyhh
"Trayvonnosaurus Rex" lol
We haven't been spared the Trayvon Martin hysteria in Europe either. What I'm most baffled by is that Spike Lee posted Zimmerman's address on his Twitter (turned out it wasn't even the correct address) and not too much has been said about it. No marches, no protests, no outrage, nothing.
Listen to this righteous smug cunt wallowing in shame for being white and middleclass.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBRwiuJ8K7w
Quote from: GEWALTMONOPOL on April 09, 2012, 09:26:45 PM
Listen to this righteous smug cunt wallowing in shame for being white and middleclass.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBRwiuJ8K7w
I'm sure more than one of us here would like to have a robust political discussion involving a full and frank exchange of views with her if you know what I mean :D
How nice it would be to have enough money to absolve yourself with every time you fuck up. One might be forgiven for thinking that Spike perhaps isn't part of the oppressed group he claims to be.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on April 09, 2012, 10:41:22 PM
It'll be interesting if the Fed's do not find anything that points to a hate crime ('Hate' is a federal offense. If you kill someone because it's fun, that's ok but don't 'hate' them. That's SO much worse!) or if a Florida jury finds him not guilty b/c it was self-defense...
I really hope they find him not guilty just because of the bullshit "outrage" and hate everyone has for him. I was hoping the same for Casey Anthony, it was awesome when they said "not guilty", I was hoping Nancy Grace would die from a heart attack at that moment. It's a shame that never happened.
Quote from: GEWALTMONOPOL on April 09, 2012, 10:54:17 PM
How nice it would be to have enough money to absolve yourself with every time you fuck up. One might be forgiven for thinking that Spike perhaps isn't part of the oppressed group he claims to be.
He is oppressed. The camera men get in the way when he watches the NY Knicks, court side.
Quote from: RyanWreck on April 09, 2012, 11:37:55 PM
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on April 09, 2012, 10:41:22 PM
It'll be interesting if the Fed's do not find anything that points to a hate crime ('Hate' is a federal offense. If you kill someone because it's fun, that's ok but don't 'hate' them. That's SO much worse!) or if a Florida jury finds him not guilty b/c it was self-defense...
I really hope they find him not guilty just because of the bullshit "outrage" and hate everyone has for him. I was hoping the same for Casey Anthony, it was awesome when they said "not guilty", I was hoping Nancy Grace would die from a heart attack at that moment. It's a shame that never happened.
This is where I'm at, but honestly, I just wish it would contain itself. There's no reason this needs to be news in the Chicagoland. Considering all the unjust crime and death that occurs 30 minutes away from me, I still have to know every goddamn updating on what's going on in Florida. At least I live in an area where we take it all with a grain of salt. An old dude yelled at me at a bar calling me Trayvon because I was wearing a hoodie. We all had a dandy laugh.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on April 10, 2012, 08:50:47 PM
Selective outrage. All the people that were shot in Chicago over St. Patrick's Day weekend weren't good enough for the news. Plus they were shot by minorities. Not good enough to get'em foaming at the mouth.
EVERYONE should be armed. I'm all for going back to the days of the Wild West.
Even in a quite suburb 5 minutes from me (as a matter of fact, across the street from aforementioned bar), a bar patron was beaten to near death in the parking lot by the owner, to which (the patron) then crawled into the street and died. Never made the news. Owner was never even arrested. Still "under investigation". I should probably go protest in Florida about it.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/police-cruiser-shot-trayvon-martin-neighborhood/story?id=16103091
http://www.news4jax.com/news/Gainesville-man-beaten-after-men-shout-Trayvon/-/475880/10396944/-/wk1c9z/-/index.html
The Trayvon and Zimmerman thing hasn't really been big news in Europe but on reading about it my mind was boggled by the stupidity all round and I was reminded of Tom Wolfe's novels. This apparently genuine website has recently appeared: http://therealgeorgezimmerman.com/
It makes me glad that there is no automatic constitutional right to bear arms in the UK and that guns are much more rare. Anyone who has seen a bacchanalian British town centre at midnight every Friday and Saturday will understand that we are somewhat lacking on the impulse control front. Personally speaking I'd have shot all my girlfriends, numerous ex-bandmates plus of course myself countless times by now.
Cockney bastards can't handle the steel. I do like their military issue, I believe it is a L86A2 assault rifle if I'm not mistaken.
Stab intruders in the head in Russia with a knife and you face life in prison.
http://rt.com/news/man-stabs-invaders-tula-586/
That's some bullshit. But it happens in the States all the time. If you chase someone out of your house or business you have to end it right there, the second they step out of your home. You just have to let the asshole go you can't chase them a block from your house and shoot them or beat the shit out of them you have to let the cops take over from the second they pass your welcome mat. The law in some states goes even further saying that one cannot attack someone in their own home if the assailant is unarmed. That is 100% nonsense. If someone is in my house you better believe I'm going to take that grand opportunity to beat them as bad as I can without killing them. If they harm someone in my house I would do everything in my power to keep them in my home and kill them. When I first moved into my own apartment when I was 18 I used to sometimes hope that someone would break in just so I could get some aggression out. I think a lot of people feel that way.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on April 11, 2012, 07:03:25 PM
So what you're saying is people in the UK are generally idiots & can't be trusted, including yourself?
I wouldn't trust myself or some of the other lunatics I know if guns were around us, no. If you want the Wild West but with broken bottles as weapons of choice, try every weekend of every year in city centres like Liverpool or Glasgow. Always fun to see the reactions of foreigners to this long-established part of Brit culture (Germans are especially confused and outraged I've noticed - kein Ordnung!) but ultimately it's a fairly sad and pathetic thing.
I respect Europeans in that sense and I do wish there was more fists and knife fights in the states. Stupid "thugs" just shoot each other and can't fight worth a shit, they just put their nappy heads down and flail around with their hey-makers. Mexicans love to high kick like little smelly, dark and drunk Chuck Norris', it's hilarious. I was jumped back in high school at a Whataburger in my home town by 3 Mexicans who literally all jump kicked when they got out of their car. One connected with my chest and made me fall over but it was still funny.
I'm happy to avoid fights completely. I've witness bar fights in IL and they're boring as hell- couple dudes rolling around, hugging on the ground with no real final motive.
Quote from: WATERPOWER on April 11, 2012, 10:26:11 PM
I'm happy to avoid fights completely. I've witness bar fights in IL and they're boring as hell- couple dudes rolling around, hugging on the ground with no real final motive.
I used to love fighting by I tend to avoid it now-a-days unless I really need to do it, I'm older and it just seems pointless now. Plus I have a record which does include minor DC charges for fighting.
There was a fat bitch who managed the Taco Bell in the small town I grew up in who used to "surf" on the roof of her boyfriends car. Me and my friends were in the parking lot one night after we got done eating and we were watching her and the guy had to slam on his breaks so she flew off the front and smacked her head on the hood then toppled over the front of the car on to the ground lading on her knee, which was bent all weird, and it ended up snapping sideways. The head injury actually did some brain damage (she was already a dumb cunt) and she has a speech impediment and these weird twitchy ticks now. She tried to sue Taco Bell because she was still clocked in to work at the time and it happened in their parking lot but all that ended up happening was she lost her job, didn't win any money and is a fucking retard from the accident who now lives off of welfare. Not enough people get what they deserve for being stupid but I am happy to say that she did and I got to see it happen. Win/win.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on April 12, 2012, 02:00:35 AM
Zimmerman turned himself in & will be charged w/2nd Deg. Murder.
i heard manslaughter only.
Nope he got 2nd Degree murder:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/04/11/zimmerman-to-be-charged-by-florida-special-prosecutor-report-says/
...he should have got involuntary manslaughter though, and he probably would have if it wasn't for all the controversy surrounding the case. I always wonder how the hell they find jurors for big cases like this, they must look under rocks.
huh, when i heard they got him i assumed manslaughter was all he could get. burden of proof and all that shit.
2nd Degree is a little harsh but it fits, I suppose. Second Degree is when someone kills without premeditation or planning, an act of passion or an on the spot killing type of thing or the actions of the accused somehow led to the death of the victim. Manslaughter is generally "death due to negligence" or by creating a deadly situation on purpose like playing with a loaded gun, and has to include the knowledge that one's actions may result in death, where involuntary is the opposite, like when you accidentally kill somebody maybe hitting them with a car when you are on the phone or while DUI. If they find self-defense then it will be an excusable homicide but this can happen even in cases of first degree murder.
Russian fellow is off the hook, thankfully.
http://rt.com/news/sargsyan-cleared-murder-invaders-828/
Sorry for all the RT links. Anyone here a football fan? I find this subject interesting...
http://rt.com/art-and-culture/news/ukraine-ban-death-match-movie-892/
More back story from Wiki...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Death_Match
I also find this comment left on the RT article interesting...
QuoteWhat a stupid jew propaganda BS 70 years of lies against the Germans. When Germans enter USSR the Ukraine people welcomed them as saviors and same the Russian. The jewish communists murderers have starve to death 16,5 Ukraine man,women's and children's. The jewish communist swine murderers killed up to 150 millions Russian christians in gulags and with bullet to the head. The Russians, Lavians, Livanians, Estonians,Polaks,Fins,Romanians etc. knows that the real criminals were and are not Germans , but the Russian jewish communist murderers . Germans did one big mistake. They shouldn't transfer jews to work camps in Poland. They should just round up all jewish communists in Ukraine and Russia and kill them all with bullet, same as the jews killed the Russian christians or starve ALL jews to death. Germans were the saviors of Russian christians. After the fall of communism Russians christians should KILL every jew in Russia who was a live. Germans and Adolf Hitler were the saviors of Europe against the jewish communist murderers . The real holocaust coming and this time NO ONE JEWISH SURVIVOR LEFT.
Anyone have any more reputable articles on the "Death Match"?
Isn't Zimmerman hispanic? Minority against minority.
Anti-gay adverts pulled from bus campaign by Boris Johnson
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/apr/12/anti-gay-adverts-boris-johnson
I think, who does spend money for such a campaign O_O?
Quote from: ARKHE on April 13, 2012, 12:14:43 PM
Isn't Zimmerman hispanic? Minority against minority.
He definitely has some form of wetback in him, I think they said he is a Rican on one of the lefty shows on Current (young turks I think).
WHO NEEDS FEMINISM?
http://dukechronicle.com/article/who-needs-feminism
According to that article it was feminism that gave women the right to procreate. Some photos gleaned off the net:
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(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/562215_10150649396141400_653526399_9793693_1542911552_n.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/529826_3012485503412_1000740380_32473578_758865417_n.jpg)
(http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/1015/1334376862544.jpg)
(http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2fsxnY2XM1rtcur5o1_1280.jpg)
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(http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lw4nc8x2mq1r85a6qo1_1280.jpg)
minus the transgenders, it's probably less than 0.9
these feministic arguments are mind boggling
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on April 14, 2012, 10:50:41 PM
"About one in two people on Earth are women."
How much is "about"?
Isn't the ratio more like 98% men per 100% women, because the species has a higher chance of procreating if there are more females than males? Though I think that's shifted because backwards regions like India and China with their gazillions of children are getting rid of their daughters because their worth is mainly what European men are willing to buy them for.
"I need feminism because I can't think rationally and critically by myself and must have some kind of self-policing to not be a sexist douche-bag". But these guys are all american, aren't they? "I need Jesus because I don't want to be a big dumb meanie".
(http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/1015/1334376862544.jpg)
Because what feminism teaches you, is that the notion of "being a man" is THE most important thing in the world. This is why males can't be feminists; they - we - can only understand the rational concepts behind the patriarchy that we conserve in our actions and thoughts, but never the experience of being female.
sorry if I offended anyone with the might P-word.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on April 16, 2012, 01:30:21 AM
& women are slower b/c of weight.
lol
Feminism is just riddled with hypocrisy. Why is the "girl power" not considered chauvinism? If you say "Man Power" you'll be met with horrible reactions. Those cunts exploit everything to make men look bad. "Pro-Choice" until your choice is something they disagree with. And the Feminist's have effected a lot of shit that can effect anyone in their lifetime and probably will. Family court as one good example especially when the Judge is a Woman. My cousins wanted to stay with their Dad, who worked 6 days a week, was a really cool guy and cared about his kids. But the court were going to give the Mother custody simply because, and I quote, "she is their Mother", until my Uncle literally had to pay her, thousands of dollars in the settlement, to get his children. And she accepted and no one saw anything morally wrong with that. Another example is the public publishing of Rapists names before they are convicted, innocent or guilty doesn't matter to them. My best friend back in 2006 was convicted of Rape. I was there that night, the bitch tried to fuck me but luckily I was too drunk and passing out, so she walked into my friends room. I saw them fucking and she was totally into it. A week later, after he doesn't answer her hundred calls, she takes him to court. Apparently she was only 17 and he was 26 so he got fucked for that but no proof of rape. A few weeks later while looking up his name on the net to get his inmate ID # I saw a feminist website where they posted his name and had a comment section. If we did that to Women for doing crimes against Men that site would be labeled "dangerous" and taken down in a matter of days.
The national associations of afro-swedes are demanding that the Swedish minister of culture resigns after cutting a cake at a celebration of the World Art Day. The cake was shaped like an African woman (a caricature according to the afroswedes), made by an artist as a comment on female circumcision. The artist, Makode Aj Linde, looks pretty African to me. https://www.facebook.com/makode/photos. Pretty nifty art if you ask me, happy white art bourgeoisie munching away at the bloody carcass of a negro woman.
@Arkhe :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rCK6zvWEN_Q (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rCK6zvWEN_Q)
i think it's awesome lol
Mean wear heels for sexual violence awareness
http://news.yahoo.com/photos/men-wear-heels-for-sexual-violence-awareness-slideshow/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXOM-Yll_Lw&feature=player_embedded
stop the traffik
ricky gervais on twitter:
Happy St. George's Day. (That's the day that English people don't celebrate in case someone thinks they're racist)
Quote from: tiny_tove on April 23, 2012, 11:31:50 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXOM-Yll_Lw&feature=player_embedded
stop the traffik
I think it's terribly un-PC to belittle those girls after the obvious hard work they put into their dance routine. Just because they're whores doesn't make their work any less deserving of a fair review that isn't based on personal bias against their chosen profession.
(http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lw4nc8x2mq1r85a6qo1_1280.jpg)
If this guy isn't a Charlie Chester I promise to never mock feminsm again.
What's/who's a Charlie Chester?
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4280548/Ukraine-call-foul-over-sexy-Dutch-advert.html
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on April 27, 2012, 10:23:26 PM
How does European countries deal with Undocumented Workers?
Within the EU, borders came down and a few years ago there was a sudden and huge influx of Polish workers in the UK - legal but it caused some tensions, although personally I've had great times hanging out with Poles. Undocumented workers within Europe are usually Kurds - the diasporic Jews of Islam. They tend to run decent takeaway food places.
http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/ba132721d0/white-man-s-d-k-with-susan-sarandon - enough is enough!
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on April 28, 2012, 10:47:40 PM
Can a German just move to France, rent an apartment & get a job?
Pretty much so, no problem. It causes gripes and trouble when economically poorer EU nations move en masse to do shitwork in better off EU nations, and there are all sorts of troubles with unfair subsidies and the Euro not working out too well, and the politicians in charge of it all in Brussels are a typically corrupt buncha cunts, but on the whole the open borders and freedom aspect of it is great. No doubt someone here will disagree with me!
Lithuania is one of the poorer countries in the EU and it seems more and more of their population is working elsewhere in Europe. From my own lazy cheapskate perspective I love the fact that if I wanted to I could escape everything, move there with my meagre savings and do some part-time bar work and enjoy a very unusual and interesting culture for a couple of years for next to nothing. I love Lithuania.
As each year goes by I seem to get far more hostile and resentful towards illegal immigrants. Back when I didn't care about it either way I had went to Mexico and me and my friends were told like 4 separate times that we weren't welcome, one of my friends cousins got stabbed that weekend while walking to get cigarettes and the guy who stab him said (get this shit) "go back home!". I went back a few years later and the same shit happened, without the stabbing, I didn't get served by a bar tender at one place. While walking around there was so much shit that referenced America and going there and trying to get jobs, there were even billboards above the freeway. I've been to Mexico 8 times and have never had a good experience all that I have learned is that they don't want us in Mexico but expect that we should just allow them in with open arms and since the time they are born most of these wetbacks are taught to try and get to America for a better life instead of putting their efforts into fixing their own shit hole country. It's hilarious when you see them driving around your neighborhood blasting their polka music with a big Mexican flag on the back of their low-rider truck. If you are so proud then go the fuck back. I personally think the laws on immigration need to be harsher and it would be nice to see other countries take these people, like Canada, and see how they like it. I've always thought it was funny when I have been to states like Minnesota or Indiana and talked to liberals there who see no problem with it. Maybe they should move to where I live in Arizona and see what I have seen before making a call like that.
Mexicans listen to polka music in Arizona? In Texas, it's Tejano music.
Whatever the hell it is called it sounds like shit.
And shit, I'm fine laying concrete or being a server if I am out of a job, which millions of citizens are. Kristallnacht in AZ!
http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/georgias-new-immigration-law-leading-to-crops-rotting-in-farmers-fields
you're an idiot if you don't realize how much our economy is now reliant on illegals.
"Illegals" is racist & hurtful. They're Undocumented Workers.
Quote from: GWNBF on May 02, 2012, 10:23:22 PM
http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/georgias-new-immigration-law-leading-to-crops-rotting-in-farmers-fields
you're an idiot if you don't realize how much our economy is now reliant on illegals.
I don't know if you were talking to me or just saying that in general but I think most people are aware of that by now (wasn't there a documentary about this subject?). The custodial and cleaning business' (especially in Hotels) are really effected, my Mom used to be a commercial cleaner in the 80's and early 90's but couldn't find work that paid good because of the people who took the jobs for $4 less than my mother would. It is a shame that that type of work is now, in a sense, ruined because the illegals worked for so little and now these employers don't want to pay Americans what they should be paid. But fuck it, if I didn't have a job I would go there and work for the same price as they would/did.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on May 02, 2012, 11:06:35 PM
"Illegals" is racist & hurtful. They're Undocumented Workers.
now that is some PC faggotry. ha!
A Day without a Wetback:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8t8DCSP020
Yea it was something like that but funnier.
The term wetback, what does it mean, literally? I get it as a racial slur, but the etymology escapes me. I'm too liberal & PC because I like illegal immigrants working for nothing, it makes the falafel in my city cost nothing at all, available at any time of the day, and since it enhances my bohemian lifestyle I don't have to think about the moral issues behind some guy who can hardly speak Swedish fixing my 2,5€ falafel at 4.30 in the morning, for a few euros an hour.
Not that we have floods of Danes and Germans coming over the bridges & waters to work for free, it's more the other way around, ask anyone in Copenhagen & Oslo and the lazy fuckers won't do the shitty work, because there's always some 20-sth Swede in dire need of West Scandinavian paychecks. Hah, we're the wetbacks of Northern Europe...
it has to do with latinos crossing the US border over the Rio Grande River.
Really??? I fucking loathe the Occupy movement.
Why would they want to do that? Crush the commodification of art or what? Or they just generally dislike Norwegians because Munch was from the same town as Breivik?
Well, this action from Sotheby's is disgusting. I loathe this 'much profit is not enough' attitude that seems to be more and more shamelessly exposed by banks, big companies and so on.
I mean, I don't care if a painting like that is sold for a shitload of money (what would you expect?), but really, first sacking your workers, then making such a profit?! That's totally over the top.
Quote from: Ashmonger on May 07, 2012, 01:19:13 PM
Well, this action from Sotheby's is disgusting. I loathe this 'much profit is not enough' attitude that seems to be more and more shamelessly exposed by banks, big companies and so on.
I mean, I don't care if a painting like that is sold for a shitload of money (what would you expect?), but really, first sacking your workers, then making such a profit?! That's totally over the top.
Absolutely agree, the Occupy statement doesn't go far enough. The place needs to be destroyed. The scum of the fucking earth. Edvard Munch, co-opted by cunts!
Italian moviton records
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBP8uXz8AZU&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZDgcrEyYH0&feature=relmfu
wow. that's excellent.
http://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10341~2773306,00.html
Quote from: tiny_tove on May 15, 2012, 10:50:09 AM
Italian moviton records
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBP8uXz8AZU&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZDgcrEyYH0&feature=relmfu
Pure old italian PC ehehehhehe
prob staged, but funny http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_AwiOnPBPqg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_AwiOnPBPqg)
http://www.peta.de/web/waldmeister.5579.html (http://www.peta.de/web/waldmeister.5579.html)
PETA wants Jägermeister to change its name because it glamorizes hunting.
(Suomalaisille selkokielellä täällä: http://www.verkkouutiset.fi/index.php/ulkomaat/983-ulkomaat/101573-kuuluisan-likoorin-nimea-vaaditaan-muutettavaksi (http://www.verkkouutiset.fi/index.php/ulkomaat/983-ulkomaat/101573-kuuluisan-likoorin-nimea-vaaditaan-muutettavaksi))
Amazing!
Even if the anti Jagermeister campaign is a contender on steroids I would like to nominate the Drowned in Sound discussion for the PC Faggiest utterence of the week.
http://drownedinsound.com/community/boards/music/4346433
Quote from: GEWALTMONOPOL on May 21, 2012, 06:07:28 PM
Amazing!
Even if the anti Jagermeister campaign is a contender on steroids I would like to nominate the Drowned in Sound discussion for the PC Faggiest utterence of the week.
http://drownedinsound.com/community/boards/music/4346433
What the fuck?! And to answer their question, of course I condone it. I mean when someone listens to gangster rap they must condone killing niggas, or people who like Miley Cyrus must condone partying in the USA.
Quote from: RyanWreck on May 21, 2012, 06:25:06 PMI mean when someone listens to gangster rap they must condone killing niggas, or people who like Miley Cyrus must condone partying in the USA.
Reminded me of a great line on Funeral Mist - Devilry booklet, hehe:
"By supporting Black Metal you support the glorification of rape, incest, war, murder, drugs, oppression, fascism, and corruption etc! Think twice before buying this divine piece of art!!!"
Quote from: GEWALTMONOPOL on May 21, 2012, 06:07:28 PM
Amazing!
Even if the anti Jagermeister campaign is a contender on steroids I would like to nominate the Drowned in Sound discussion for the PC Faggiest utterence of the week.
http://drownedinsound.com/community/boards/music/4346433
This may be my first tattoo: "My girlfriend questioned whether I was morally comfortable with this and, having thought about it, I am. "
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/may/22/jacob-zuma-painting-vandalised-gallery
sooo saaad
The painting looks better now.
QuoteNgoako Selamolela, president of the South African Students' Congress, added: "This arrogance is ideological and an attack to the very value and moral systems of the majority African people and many other religious persuasions."
And rightly so!
QuoteZuma states in a legal affidavit: "The continued display of the portrait is manifestly serious and has the effect of impugning my dignity in the eyes of all who see it. In particular, the portrait depicts me in a manner that suggests that I am a philanderer, a womaniser and one with no respect. It is an undignified depiction of my personality and seeks to create doubt about my personality in the eyes of my fellow citizens, family and children."
...
Zuma is a polygamous Zulu who has married six times and has four wives. In 2010, he publicly apologised for fathering a child out of wedlock, said to be his 20th overall. In 2006, he was cleared of raping an HIV-positive friend but caused anger by saying he took a shower after having sex with her.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/may/21/jacob-zuma-court-painting-genitals
Lots of backstory to the Zuma painting at http://kaganof.com/kagablog/category/categories/censorship/
Thanks for that link, H-K.
Found this article rather interesting, esp. being close to me...
http://rt.com/usa/news/white-racist-park-tinley-006/
http://takimag.com/article/the_vegetarian_personality_jim_goad#axzz1wBzRDlZ9
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on May 28, 2012, 10:06:00 PM
http://takimag.com/article/the_vegetarian_personality_jim_goad#axzz1wBzRDlZ9
Sometimes I read a bit sloppy but I really thought it said "I Am a Privileged White
Whale...And honestly, sometimes I wish I wasn't."
Spanish artist faces prison over 'how to cook Christ' film
Javier Krahe prosecuted for 'offending religious feelings' after 1978 short film was broadcast on Spanish TV
http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2012/may/28/spanish-artist-cook-christ-film
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bTFn-T85Xw
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on May 28, 2012, 10:06:00 PM
http://takimag.com/article/the_vegetarian_personality_jim_goad#axzz1wBzRDlZ9
i really like jim goad but that article's piss weak ... tired old set of vegan keywords ... smug assholes with an obnoxious sense of moral superiority, baby killers, vitamin b12 deficient, blah blah blah
disclaimer: i'm vegan ... how d'you know if someone's vegan? don't worry, they'll tell you ... ha!
from my own experience, the vast majority of the obnoxious shouting comes from the carnivore side of the fence. contrary to what most meat eaters think, most vegans don't give a shit if you choose to eat meat or not. your life, your business. also, i don't see what veganism has to do with political correctness
the "we're white, we're male, and we suck!" article on the other hand is a blast ... http://takimag.com/article/were_white_were_male_and_we_suck_jim_goad#axzz1wGzLKQ8z
I get more 'offended' by the endless tracking cookies found by Ghostery on the takimag site than anything written about.
My girlfriend does occasional DJ gigs and got a booking recently for a set at one of the UK's largest vegan fairs, around 1000 attendees. She slipped Cock Sparrer 'Watch Your Back' and The Fall 'I've Been Duped' into her playlist then we went straight to McDonalds after she got paid - felt so great! Nothing against vegans, I know some OK ones, but staring at a miserable crusty fucker behind a stall with a T-shirt saying ON THE EIGHTH DAY GOD FIREBOMBED MCDONALDS made the golden arches seem really appealing.
Quote from: ddmurph on May 29, 2012, 10:15:25 PM
from my own experience, the vast majority of the obnoxious shouting comes from the carnivore side of the fence.
there you go, this is my typical experience with vegans, not all, but many ;-D for an omnivore that simply does not care what other eat (a i respect that) it's pretty frustrating to get blamed for the end of the world most of the time :-D
http://features.peta.org/silentscream/
Haha, fuck fish.
+
(http://images.4chan.org/b/src/1338438343016.jpg)
http://www.idieyoudie.com/2012/05/kinetik-update-2012-ad%C2%B7ver%C2%B7sarys-performance/
nobel prize for pcness
and nachtmar's answers -I have not read it yet
http://www.idieyoudie.com/2012/05/an-interview-with-thomas-rainer-of-nachtmahr/
Quote from: tiny_tove on June 08, 2012, 12:10:58 PM
http://www.idieyoudie.com/2012/05/kinetik-update-2012-ad%C2%B7ver%C2%B7sarys-performance/
nobel prize for pcness
and nachtmar's answers -I have not read it yet
http://www.idieyoudie.com/2012/05/an-interview-with-thomas-rainer-of-nachtmahr/
"What would Jello Biafra do?" - absolutely priceless! This Nachtmahr guy also seems like a halfwit. I really loathe this sort of music.
Quote from: HongKongGoolagong on June 08, 2012, 11:27:23 PM
Quote from: tiny_tove on June 08, 2012, 12:10:58 PM
http://www.idieyoudie.com/2012/05/kinetik-update-2012-ad%C2%B7ver%C2%B7sarys-performance/
nobel prize for pcness
and nachtmar's answers -I have not read it yet
http://www.idieyoudie.com/2012/05/an-interview-with-thomas-rainer-of-nachtmahr/
"What would Jello Biafra do?" - absolutely priceless! This Nachtmahr guy also seems like a halfwit. I really loathe this sort of music.
Nachtmahr seems to be the native industrial gentleman...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4W9pt4NRAa8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4W9pt4NRAa8)
"Become immortal..."
This one (moreover this form of "propaganda actions") scares the shit out of left-wing PC´s in Germany (with coverage in many PC-liberal media outlets, to warn the youth about the new tricks of the new nazis) - decent watch anway - a nazi flash-mob - isn´t it ?
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on May 28, 2012, 10:06:00 PM
http://takimag.com/article/the_vegetarian_personality_jim_goad#axzz1wBzRDlZ9
On a related note:
http://reason.com/archives/2012/05/26/do-organic-consumers-shop-exclusively-at
Also, Jim Goad has definitely lost some of his talent, or is just not that inspired working at Taki's Mag or something. When he blathers on about the Tides Toundation and George Soros, I find he sounds like an even less entertaining Glenn Beck.
about right wing flash mobs
hard bass... could watch these for days
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09o9Gs2OZSc
Quote from: tiny_tove on June 10, 2012, 09:26:18 PM
about right wing flash mobs
hard bass... could watch these for days
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09o9Gs2OZSc
we see a lot of dance-music trends come & go, i actually like this one, never heard of "hard bass"
(i see a lot of Lonsdale, Hooligan, Bulldogs Streetware, even Combat44 in one clip....pretty close to Dutch wp gabber? lol)
I'm going to Russia this summer. I'm gonna have to get in on one of these hard bass masses.
Quote from: tiny_tove on June 10, 2012, 09:26:18 PM
about right wing flash mobs
hard bass... could watch these for days
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09o9Gs2OZSc
What's the deal with the Santa Claus costumes?
Quote from: ConcreteMascara on June 11, 2012, 05:01:26 AM
I'm going to Russia this summer. I'm gonna have to get in on one of these hard bass masses.
don't forget your drugs! :-D
http://youtu.be/oowP4CefwOs (http://youtu.be/oowP4CefwOs)
http://thinkprogress.org/alyssa/2012/06/14/499759/the-guys-guide-to-being-a-feminist-ally-in-video-gaming/?mobile=nc
"prostitution is fascism"
http://www.nieuwsblad.be/article/detail.aspx?articleid=DMF20120612_141&pid=1747696#photoset (http://www.nieuwsblad.be/article/detail.aspx?articleid=DMF20120612_141&pid=1747696#photoset)
pffff
http://www.guardian.co.uk/fashion/2012/jun/19/adidas-slavery-shoe-withdrawn-shackles
http://www.chortle.co.uk/news/2012/06/20/15623/arrested_by_the_thought_police
http://unfaircampaign.org/
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-06-22/topless-feminist-disrupts-psychic-pigs-feeding-time/4085576 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-06-22/topless-feminist-disrupts-psychic-pigs-feeding-time/4085576)
(http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/4085582-3x2-700x467.jpg)
poor pig.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2165861/Teacher-Heather-Wolfson-56-hits-suspended-diving-stranded-pupil-home.html
Better safe than sorry, CP is of course a billion-dollar industry. (CP = Child Protection)
Quote from: HongKongGoolagong on June 28, 2012, 04:50:22 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2165861/Teacher-Heather-Wolfson-56-hits-suspended-diving-stranded-pupil-home.html
Better safe than sorry, CP is of course a billion-dollar industry. (CP = Child Protection)
Crazy. Fear of a paedo planet eh?
Chuck Norris attacked over anti-gay scouts article
Lesbian ex-scout leader slaps down 1980s action star after he claimed gay people have no place in the scouting movement
Chuck Norris
Chuck Norris is accused of being 'out of touch' by Jennifer Tyrrell, the former leader of her son's boy scouts troop in Bridgeport, Ohio. Photograph: Charles Dharapak/AP
A lesbian mother who was ousted as a American boy scout leader because of her sexual orientation has slapped down 1980s action star Chuck Norris after he claimed gay people have no place in the scouting movement.
Jennifer Tyrrell, the former leader of her son's boy scouts troop in Bridgeport, Ohio, accused Norris of being "out of touch" after he wrote a column that accused President Obama of encouraging attempts trying to impose a "pro-gay" stance on the Boy Scouts of America (BSA) by stealth.
In a column for AmmoLand.com, a site dedicated to shooting-sports news, Norris, a well known gun-rights activist, suggested that the recent announcement by James Turley, a BSA national board member, that he will work to overturn a policy that bans gay scouts and gay scout leaders was an attempt to win favour with the Obama administration.
But the BSA's rules have faced growing criticism in recent months after Tyrrell was removed form her post in April.
Scout chiefs decided her sexual orientation "did not meet the high standards" set by the group. Her son, Cruz, was subsequently asked to leave the organisation as well.
Tyrrell challenged Norris to meet with her family and supporters to debate the issue.
She said: "Since I was ousted as a scout leader I have been flooded with support from local parents, scouts and hundreds of thousands of Americans. Chuck Norris is clearly out of touch and I'd like for him to sit down with my family and fellow scouting families who support us.
"My orientation wasn't an issue in my son's pack until the Boy Scouts made parents tell their children why their favourite den leader was no longer able to participate. With the US military, the Girls Scouts of the USA, the 4-H Club and the Boys & Girls Club among organizations that allow gay Americans the time is now to end the ban."
Nearly 300,000 people have signed an online petition on left-leaning social campaigning website Change.org calling on the BSA to change its policy of discrimination against lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender scouts and leaders.
Tyrrell's case has also attracted support from the Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation (GLAAD) and celebrity activists including Julianne Moore and Ellen DeGeneres.
In his article, Norris implies that the Obama administration has offered Turley political favours to carry out what the martial arts actor describes as the White House's pro-gay agenda.
"Is Turley working on his own initiative, or has the White House prodded him with perks and favours? Is it a coincidence that Turley is in tight cahoots with the White House and that he is the only BSA national board member in 100 years to oppose its pro-traditional family stance?"
Turley's statement opposing the policy, issued last month, stated: "I support the meaningful work of the Boy Scouts in preparing young people for adventure, leadership, learning and service, however the membership policy is not one I would personally endorse."
Turley, the chief executive of accountancy firm Ernst & Young, added. "I intend to continue to work from within the BSA Board to actively encourage dialogue and sustainable progress."
Here is Chuck Norris' controversial article:
http://www.ammoland.com/2012/06/26/is-obama-creating-a-pro-gay-boy-scouts-of-america/#axzz1zOT1aeUf
I don't know should it be in PC faggotry, faggotry or anti-PC or what topic, but very amusing recent happening, FDL, the Finnish chapter of EDL, decided to take part of Tampere city Pride march. Their goal was to raise topic of how gays are mistreated in islamic countries.
Political Correctness is a broad church. Any dickhead is welcome.
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on July 01, 2012, 09:34:30 PM
I don't know should it be in PC faggotry, faggotry or anti-PC or what topic, but very amusing recent happening, FDL, the Finnish chapter of EDL, decided to take part of Tampere city Pride march. Their goal was to raise topic of how gays are mistreated in islamic countries.
(http://www.vincenzobrana.it/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/gay-destra.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8RHxv0bxzo&feature=related
O_O
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgWp-a0WuGQ&feature=fvwrel
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on July 01, 2012, 09:34:30 PM
I don't know should it be in PC faggotry, faggotry or anti-PC or what topic, but very amusing recent happening, FDL, the Finnish chapter of EDL, decided to take part of Tampere city Pride march. Their goal was to raise topic of how gays are mistreated in islamic countries.
I laughed when I first heard about this too. The postmodern world is one of strange allegiances...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpl3-q3VbWU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpl3-q3VbWU)
Some will, no doubt, make convincing arguments that this belongs more in the porn thread, but I honestly think it belongs here. Give it an SPK soundtrack and it'd be perfect.
"Right now, you're watching a video of me in California, interspersed with pictures of the effect Joseph Kony had on the people of Uganda. I put the two together because I know a spoonful of sugar helps the medicine go down."
"No stranger to backlash myself..."
Quote from: tiny_tove on July 06, 2012, 03:56:20 PM
O_O
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgWp-a0WuGQ&feature=fvwrel
The beginning of that is just a Dave Chappelle joke from his Killin' them Softly Stand Up on HBO. And a relatively old on at that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJ4B7G8Rw3Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDbGaY533Ow
Quite litterary PC faggotry...
something like this was just open near my place. it has the same style, but is in fact a mini fast food run by Indians.
shitty comedian tells a rape joke....
http://breakfastcookie.tumblr.com/post/26879625651/so-a-girl-walks-into-a-comedy-club (http://breakfastcookie.tumblr.com/post/26879625651/so-a-girl-walks-into-a-comedy-club)
Shitty because he told a rape joke or just a shitty comedian?
She's bitching up daniel tosh, whose stand up is quite hilarious in my opinion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FsfLPohZ_c (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FsfLPohZ_c)
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on July 12, 2012, 03:17:13 AM
Shitty because he told a rape joke or just a shitty comedian?
the latter. i can't help but see him as the flipside of the coin to Carlos Mencia, a low level comedian tapped by Comedy Central and paid big money to be "offensive". maybe i am wrong.
^ no you are absolutely right. Maybe worse than Mencia (if it is possible) simply because more people like him and his show has been on longer. DEE DEE DEE!!
http://blackwomenvalues.tumblr.com/blackidentity
This white guy "is" a black woman
Front National to sue Madonna.
http://www.theage.com.au/entertainment/music/french-political-party-to-sue-madonna-over-swastika-video-20120715-224h2.html (http://www.theage.com.au/entertainment/music/french-political-party-to-sue-madonna-over-swastika-video-20120715-224h2.html)
Quote from: hsv on July 12, 2012, 03:02:33 PM
http://blackwomenvalues.tumblr.com/blackidentity
This white guy "is" a black woman
This is THE funniest example of postmodern deconstruction gone amok I have seen.
Quote from: humanpulp on July 12, 2012, 01:35:01 AM
shitty comedian tells a rape joke....
http://breakfastcookie.tumblr.com/post/26879625651/so-a-girl-walks-into-a-comedy-club (http://breakfastcookie.tumblr.com/post/26879625651/so-a-girl-walks-into-a-comedy-club)
The best response to this whole thing so far came from Louis CK on the Daily Show, Monday night. Truly he spoke in the least PC terms possible.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7P8Jbll7tjs
It starts at 15:00. I seriously recommend watching it for a laugh.
Quote from: humanpulp on July 12, 2012, 01:35:01 AM
shitty comedian tells a rape joke....
http://breakfastcookie.tumblr.com/post/26879625651/so-a-girl-walks-into-a-comedy-club (http://breakfastcookie.tumblr.com/post/26879625651/so-a-girl-walks-into-a-comedy-club)
So you can joke that someone in the audience should get raped, but you can't tell a black man in the audience that he's a nigger without busting your career completely?
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on July 18, 2012, 11:11:59 PM
Holy crap, youtube needs a forward button. I hate the "Louie" show (and "The Daily Show"). Liked one of CKs standups where he bitches about his kids but more recent standup seems less 'edgy'/whatever. One of his good bits about relationships was that men will burn your house down but a woman will shit in your heart.
Theres some comedian I've seen a video for that does a standup bit about pedophilia that's pretty funny. The audience doesn't think the same.
Youtube doesn't need a forward button. There are 3 ways to get to different sections of a video. The one most everyone uses it to simply take your mouse and put it on the little circle thing that shows you at what point of the video you are currently at and drag it to wherever you want to put it (in this case at 15:00).
Alternatively, you can press the right button on your keyboard to FF and the left button to RWD (the whole video needs to load for this to work good).
The last way I know of to get to a particular section is to press 1, 2, 3, 4, etc. on your keyboard to put the video 10%, 20%, 30%, 40%, etc. and press 0 to go back to the beginning.
Quote from: Black_Angkar on July 18, 2012, 08:49:23 AM
Quote from: hsv on July 12, 2012, 03:02:33 PM
http://blackwomenvalues.tumblr.com/blackidentity
This white guy "is" a black woman
This is THE funniest example of postmodern deconstruction gone amok I have seen.
Reading it again I'm not sure wether he's serious or poking fun though.
Quote from: hsv on July 20, 2012, 08:04:15 PM
Quote from: Black_Angkar on July 18, 2012, 08:49:23 AM
Quote from: hsv on July 12, 2012, 03:02:33 PM
http://blackwomenvalues.tumblr.com/blackidentity
This white guy "is" a black woman
This is THE funniest example of postmodern deconstruction gone amok I have seen.
Reading it again I'm not sure wether he's serious or poking fun though.
O course- I've been pondering that one. But it doesn't really matter in the end, it is still quite spot on over the whole idea of endless deconstrucionism.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4445608/Promoting-neo-Nazi-band-was-not-the-Plan.html
Quote from: tiny_tove on July 24, 2012, 09:43:20 AM
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4445608/Promoting-neo-Nazi-band-was-not-the-Plan.html
Reminds me of a hoody that was hanging in the staff room at my old work place. Shitty printed hoody with lots of repeated "punk" logos/symbols etc. The kind of trash sold specifically to kids who feel like the "don't fit in". Funny thing was, in amongst all the "fuck da system" images, one of the idents featured on it was a small b&w repro of a Skrewdriver cover, complete with the band name in bold letters above it.
I took great delight in educating the owner of said hoody, much to her chagrin. She was black.
"I was ignorant to the existence of the band Skrewdriver."
That's possible in England?!
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on July 25, 2012, 03:15:32 AM
"I was ignorant to the existence of the band Skrewdriver."
That's possible in England?!
LOL. They're not a household name and Plan B isn't a punk or an antifa or a skinhead. Still stupid though.
They used to be bloody well known, not just in punk and skin circles. They got a hell of a lot of attention from the media and the police when they where active.
Quote from: tiny_tove on July 24, 2012, 09:43:20 AM
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4445608/Promoting-neo-Nazi-band-was-not-the-Plan.html
That is horrid, almost as bad as David Beckham wearing a Crass shirt made by fucking Jean Paul Gaultier. Statements like
"He said in a statement issued yesterday: "I don't listen to music like that so I wouldn't know the names of bands that make that music."" And
"In a heartfelt statement, he said: "I was ignorant to the existence of the band Skrewdriver. I don't listen to music like that..." is just so frustratingly lame.
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on July 25, 2012, 04:13:21 PM
They used to be bloody well known, not just in punk and skin circles. They got a hell of a lot of attention from the media and the police when they where active.
Jumpers for goalposts.
Quote from: Peterson on July 25, 2012, 10:04:11 PM
Talk about your head being up your ass. Rappers wearing Skrewdriver shirts! Next I would like to see NS/WP rap/hip-hop. Then we will live in a truly absurd world.
Not quite NS/WP ....yet, but certainly the insinuation is there, as highlighted by 'skip hop' (slang for oz hip hop) crew Def Wish Cast. See article below:
http://www.abc.net.au/triplej/musicnews/s3547637.htm#.UBBknI7NdJ0
Quote from: re:evolution on July 26, 2012, 12:32:39 AM
Quote from: Peterson on July 25, 2012, 10:04:11 PM
Talk about your head being up your ass. Rappers wearing Skrewdriver shirts! Next I would like to see NS/WP rap/hip-hop. Then we will live in a truly absurd world.
Not quite NS/WP ....yet, but certainly the insinuation is there, as highlighted by 'skip hop' (slang for oz hip hop) crew Def Wish Cast. See article below:
http://www.abc.net.au/triplej/musicnews/s3547637.htm#.UBBknI7NdJ0
NS Rap? The guy with the "DUN PRO PPA" shirt looks black to me...
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-WXqld6vfEEc/T7nRR7w_rQI/AAAAAAAABB8/SUfHT8OwX5M/s640/dwc_bw_web-590x392+crew.jpg)
Quote from: RyanWreck on July 26, 2012, 01:03:38 AM
Quote from: re:evolution on July 26, 2012, 12:32:39 AM
Quote from: Peterson on July 25, 2012, 10:04:11 PM
Talk about your head being up your ass. Rappers wearing Skrewdriver shirts! Next I would like to see NS/WP rap/hip-hop. Then we will live in a truly absurd world.
Not quite NS/WP ....yet, but certainly the insinuation is there, as highlighted by 'skip hop' (slang for oz hip hop) crew Def Wish Cast. See article below:
http://www.abc.net.au/triplej/musicnews/s3547637.htm#.UBBknI7NdJ0
NS Rap? The guy with the "DUN PRO PPA" shirt looks black to me...
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-WXqld6vfEEc/T7nRR7w_rQI/AAAAAAAABB8/SUfHT8OwX5M/s640/dwc_bw_web-590x392+crew.jpg)
Yes, that IS a picture of Def Wish Cast. However the point of the article was that they are highlighting that some sectors of the skip hop scene are focusing on a white audience only, leading to potential WP influence. This is what Def Wish Cast are pointing out - not advocating.
"Skip-hop" - the term "skip" was a derogatory slang term given by Greek and Italian immigrants during the 1960's/70's to white Australians. Short for Skippy. I've never been to a hip-hop gig in my life but it doesn't surprise me in the least that there'd be racist whites getting into it.
I could have sworn I read an article somewhere about European white nationalist hip-hop rappers but as I can't seem to find it it'll have to remain apocryphal. Suffice to say I'd be very surprised if there wasn't any such thing as white power hip-hop by now. When nazi skins started doing rock they copped flack from the older white supremacist crowd for doing "nigger" music. Certainly, there was plenty more ammunition for the skins to use in defence of doing rock music, it'd be harder to do hip-hop, but it would have to be happening by now.
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on July 26, 2012, 03:27:38 AM
I could have sworn I read an article somewhere about European white nationalist hip-hop rappers but as I can't seem to find it it'll have to remain apocryphal. Suffice to say I'd be very surprised if there wasn't any such thing as white power hip-hop by now. When nazi skins started doing rock they copped flack from the older white supremacist crowd for doing "nigger" music. Certainly, there was plenty more ammunition for the skins to use in defence of doing rock music, it'd be harder to do hip-hop, but it would have to be happening by now.
There was this http://www.arminius.se/szu-sprachgesang-zum-untergang.html from Swedens ex-National Socialist Front related (if I'm not incorrect) webshop. The text only states that this is an attempt at using a new forum to get the message through and that some probably won't like it.
There was also a swedish nationalist reggaetrack released some years ago. I'm not sure how serious it was in itself but the people behind it are an organisation of the far right.
there are several right wing hip hop singers around the world.
I remember in America this guy simply called WHITE in the 90's -totally unlistenable, plus several project in Germany and Russia.
I need to check for their names.
Not WP , but with links with radical right, In Italy there is THE HORRIBLE NIGHT, quite influenced by truceklan & co
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrmGPelvPKA
Voula Papachristou Expelled From Olympics: Greece Boots Track Star Over Racist Twitter Message
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/25/voula-papachristou-greek-olympic-racist-tweet_n_1701410.html
Racist jokes go against the "spirit" of the Olympics? Who knew.....
Have any far right Greek politicians defended him?
Greek far-right breakfast TV lulz: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjVsaEUM2Ws
apparently the blonde chick wasn't letting him talk. he was trying to talk about something different and she constantly kept insulting him because under trial for a robbery and he lost it.
that's her
(http://www.xryshaygh.com/resources/images/preview/1366/394644_248490928587154_959009329_n__article.jpg)
The main organizer behind the Swedish indiepop festival Emmaboda is getting a lot of slack these past few days for his comments on gender equality there's been a lot of debate about male organizers only booking male musicians and how that could/should be changed, and when confronted about the lack of women on his festival he replied that he didn't give a fuck, they book bands they like themselves and debates on equality isn't in their interest. He's receiving applause from anti-feminists and nationalists, and harsh criticism from just about everybody else. http://www.dn.se/kultur-noje/mest-man-som-bokar-artister-till-festivalerna
Just read also about the Pride festival last year, where gay military officers where taunted by pacifist activists. Even if you're gay you're still a murderer, more or less.
Quote from: ARKHE on July 27, 2012, 04:59:12 PM
The main organizer behind the Swedish indiepop festival Emmaboda is getting a lot of slack these past few days for his comments on gender equality there's been a lot of debate about male organizers only booking male musicians and how that could/should be changed, and when confronted about the lack of women on his festival he replied that he didn't give a fuck, they book bands they like themselves and debates on equality isn't in their interest.
One of my many jobs these days is to evaluate applications for state funding. All projects are suppose to be "cutting edge" and "new". I don't know how many applications I have rejected where the "new" and "cutting edge" have all been about giving women a "chance", creating all female festivals for music, dance, film, photography, petting whatever. They don't see the problem about lamenting against festivals for not having 50/50 gender and at the same time seeking state funding for 100% female festivals. It just so much bull.
Quote from: ARKHE on July 27, 2012, 04:59:12 PMJust read also about the Pride festival last year, where gay military officers where taunted by pacifist activists. Even if you're gay you're still a murderer, more or less.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Np6_b-72H3E (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Np6_b-72H3E)
I read an article about the Daniel Tosh 'rape joke' & this was posted in the comments section:
A rabbi, Obama, Santa Clause and a rapist are on the Titanic while it is sinking discussing what they should do with the last life raft.
The rabbi is the first to speak and says "Save the children!"
The rapist speaks next and says "remember the Alamo" and throws Santa Clause overboard.
Obama says "We cannot return to the failed polices of the past" then goes below deck and rapes all the children.
Maybe a joke thread should be started?
Italy outlaws 'you don't have the balls'
Highest appeals court rules it a crime to use phrase after case in which JP who had questioned existence of lawyer's testicles
John Hooper in Rome
guardian.co.uk, Thursday 2 August 2012 19.38 BST
Italy's court of cassation
Members of Italy's court of cassation which says the phrase 'you don't have the balls' should be outlawed because it implied a 'lack of determination, competence and consistency'. Photograph: Giorgio Cosulich/Getty Images
It took a trial and two appeals. But now Italians know where they stand.
They may think it. They may mutter it. But, on pain of a hefty fine, they must not say it.
With all the solemnity on which it can draw, Italy's highest appeals court has ruled it is a crime to utter the words: "You don't have the balls." And for reasons that are potentially as controversial as the judgment itself.
The court decided the phrase should be outlawed, not so much because it cast doubt on the offended party's virility, but because it implied a "lack of determination, competence and consistency – virtues which, rightly or wrongly, continue to be regarded as suggestive of the male sex'.
In this instance, the offended party was a lawyer from the southern city of Potenza. The existence of his procreative organs was called into question by his cousin, a justice of the peace, in a public courthouse row.
The judges at the trial ruled for the lawyer. But the justice of the peace took his case to appeal, where his counsel persuaded the court that the accusation levelled at him was a load of, well, nonsense.
The judges declared that the claim regarding their learned friend's allegedly missing testicles could not be regarded as offensive because it had been levelled "in the context of a family dispute". Undaunted, the offended party appealed to Rome where it was argued, on his behalf in a hearing on 26 June, that while it was acceptable to say, for example, "don't break my balls", it was unacceptable to claim that "you don't possess the attributes – in other words, you are worth less than other men."
It will be up to a lower court to decide on the size of the fine.
Quote from: tiny_tove on July 26, 2012, 06:00:15 PM
Voula Papachristou Expelled From Olympics: Greece Boots Track Star Over Racist Twitter Message
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/25/voula-papachristou-greek-olympic-racist-tweet_n_1701410.html
ANother one
http://news-ro.com/scandal-in-the-german-team-drygalla-rower-leaves-olympic-village/
Heard on the radio that NBC apologized for running a commerical that featured a monkey right after a woman won something in the Olympics. I'm assuming she was an African-American and the commercial was intentionally ran to show how the athlete & monkeys are related. Or, people are too fucking sensitive. And stupid.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on August 05, 2012, 09:00:30 PM
Heard on the radio that NBC apologized for running a commerical that featured a monkey right after a woman won something in the Olympics. I'm assuming she was an African-American and the commercial was intentionally ran to show how the athlete & monkeys are related. Or, people are too fucking sensitive. And stupid.
Wow, that is just ridiculous to have to apologize for that. There are so many things I can think of that Blacks would have to apologize for on BET and stuff.
So far the olympics have been great for being PC. There was also some controversy with this racially charged postage stamp!
(http://img.mtv3.fi/mn_kuvat/mtv3/urheilu/olympialaiset/971039.jpg)
It's not enough for them to be included anymore, they have to be winning as well.
Quote from: RyanWreck on August 06, 2012, 06:31:00 PMThere are so many things I can think of that Blacks would have to apologize for on BET and stuff.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMZSTMNccHM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMZSTMNccHM)
Uhhh oh, Boondocks... I will watch it, for you Andrew.
Ah, sorry man, just the first few minutes might do.
This might be of interest to some people here -
http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/08/08/facebook-page-vilifying-aborigines-breaks-australian-law/ (http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/08/08/facebook-page-vilifying-aborigines-breaks-australian-law/)
I've seen the page - http://www.facebook.com/pages/Abo-Memes/460998877251042 (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Abo-Memes/460998877251042) - and it's no big deal, but like many I would have happily gone about my existence without knowing about it if the media hadn't told me.
And - http://www.facebook.com/ThingsThatWillOffendPeople (http://www.facebook.com/ThingsThatWillOffendPeople).
Recently read John Pilger's pretty PC-friendly book on Australia ' A Secret Country'. Plenty of stuff on institutionalised aborigine hatred in there but what really stuck with me was a supposed drunken Bob Hawke quip to a newspaper tycoon's wife: "I bet this old bastard doesn't give your cunt much use" - what a star!
MYSTERY OF THE MISSING PARK RANGER
Borneo.
(http://billschannel.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/borneosnake1.png)(http://billschannel.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/illustrated.png)
http://billschannel.com/?p=36 (http://billschannel.com/?p=36)
Quote from: KMusselman on August 06, 2012, 10:17:36 PM
Protesters scream as James Brock pours "muriatic" acid into his "Whites Only" pool at the Monson Motor Lodge to get them out. June 18, 1964. St Augustine, Florida.
Man, that's føkked up. Breivik geofarm.
Oslo, Norway
MISSING
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/324976_185799214887084_145453936_o.jpg)
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Har-du-sett-Sigrid-Giskegjerde-Schjetne-16-/184837788316560 (https://www.facebook.com/pages/Har-du-sett-Sigrid-Giskegjerde-Schjetne-16-/184837788316560)
(http://www.vg.no/uploaded/image/bilderigg/2012/08/08/1344412573463_578.jpg)
Wanted by the Oslo police. Suspected sex offender.
http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/artikkel.php?artid=10052440 (http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/artikkel.php?artid=10052440)
Olympics spectator with Parkinson arrested for not smiling while watching byciclists!!
Link (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/aug/08/olympics-spectator-parkinsons-arrest-smiling)
Quote from: GEWALTMONOPOL on October 30, 2011, 03:08:00 PM
Only someone with a name like Kjerstin could write that shit. Every Kjerstin (or Kerstin) I've met have been the annoying kind who dwell in academic/bohemian circles where they talk about African dancing and how they find solace in Kieslowki's Three Colours trilogy. What it's really all about is to compensate for a fat unshapely ass. Find them working in any library near you. Unfucked. When they hit 50 they start going to the Caribbean for sex.
This thread wasn't started to get people here angrier than they already are (OK, maybe a little bit). I thought it a good place to have a laugh at the anemic PC weakling race Western society spawned over the last 20 years.
Come on people, share the bullshit and have a hearty old guffaw! Here another gem:
A man is a rape-supporter if...
http://evebitfirst.wordpress.com/2011/05/18/a-man-is-a-rape-supporter-if/
Just ridiculous. I agree, it's very stupid but I can't figure out for the life of me why my MRM views are criticized within noise "culture". It's quite funny and sad how over 40 years of feminism has crippled western society and made it anemic. I don't make too many friends over at chondritic sound with these views.
ah the olympics, what an amazing invention
Misandrists and misogynists need each others' extremist stupidity to bolster their own. God/dess bless them both, they do a wonderful job.
Not necessarily an issue of political correctness but http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2012/aug/11/devastated-by-my-sons-tattoo?commentpage=last#end-of-comments
Wow that is hilarious. Sounds like this person needs someone to really hurt her feelings, to put things in perspective. Though to be honest I'm almost hoping that article is a prank.
So, YLE (Finland's national public-broadcasting company) funded a movie about our national hero, Mannerheim. Apparently, Mannerheim is played by a kenyan actor and the movie was shot in Kenya. No one has seen the movie but there is going to be some kind of a press conference later on. But it's a HUGE PC Faggotry party over here now. Whole country is bananas with rage over some half-fictional movie.
And the best part being, the guy was swedish to start with.
Quote from: Salamanauhat on August 15, 2012, 12:54:49 PM
Michael Moynihan criticises Lonely Planet and Rough Guides,
Leftist Planet – Why do so many travel guides make excuses for dictators? (http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2012/08/13/leftist_planet?page=0,0)
That is a dull, moany and self-righteous piece of writing, he's no Jim Goad. Moynihan should remember that lots of us no longer wish to visit the US due to the TSA stuff in place at the borders. I think there is plenty of evidence that Gaddafi WAS framed for Pan Am Flight 103 but that's not to defend his memory. Slightly off-topic here but if anyone has been following the TrapWire/wikileaks story, this email is hilarious:
http://dazzlepod.com/gifiles/1230234/ - top ex-CIA analysts decide Andreas Breivik was a Libyan agent.
When I saw Michael Moynihan, I thought of Coup de Grace & Blood Axis...
What "TSA stuff at the borders"? Do you mean Customs?
Coming back from France, US Customs thought it was concerning that I didn't have 'enough' clothes with me but didn't bat an eye at a bodybag someone gave me. Canadian Customs told me, for no good reason, "Just because you buy a ticket to canada, doesn't mean we have to let you in". I have no clue what Europeans go through getting into the US. France barely looked at me going in but was very concerned with going trhough everythng leaving..
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on August 15, 2012, 07:58:51 PM
When I saw Michael Moynihan, I thought of Coup de Grace & Blood Axis...
So did I, turns out there are three different Michael Moynihans writing, all of whom cover politics - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Moynihan_(disambiguation) - I am as confused as a burka-wearing transexual at US customs.
http://undhimmi.com/2009/10/21/un-transexual-terror-suspects-have-rights-too/
Quote from: Brad on August 15, 2012, 09:09:20 PM
http://www.vice.com/en_ca/read/confessions-of-a-male-feminist-i-pee-sitting-down
What a total load of shit.
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on August 11, 2012, 02:02:38 PM
Misandrists and misogynists need each others' extremist stupidity to bolster their own. God/dess bless them both, they do a wonderful job.
Being reasonably critical of female behavior is not misogyny.
There is good factual evidence that not everything feminism created, literally or figuratively, has sprung forth positive results. That's why there is somewhat of a backlash.
Not being critical, no, but I'm standing by that statement as it's true.
I agree that there's a lot of bullshit as a result of feminism. I'm more critical of a lot of comfy-country feminists who think having a door opened for them is comparable with a smack in the face, or where their views cross over to simple wowserism (anti-pleasure)*. I don't see a lot of difference between them and blokes who complain that feminism wrecked their lives because they can't get an easy fuck or something. As I think I've written before, political correctness is a broad church and I'm happy to make fun of all aspects of it.
*Like this (https://www.facebook.com/targetaus/posts/510221122336863), for example.
Now really. peeing while sitting is relaxing. You can read a good book, have a beer, a wank or whatever. In a hurry DO stand up of course.
By the way. Isn't that Vice link quite sarcasti?
Quote from: NEHPF on August 15, 2012, 06:11:21 PM
So, YLE (Finland's national public-broadcasting company) funded a movie about our national hero, Mannerheim. Apparently, Mannerheim is played by a kenyan actor and the movie was shot in Kenya. No one has seen the movie but there is going to be some kind of a press conference later on. But it's a HUGE PC Faggotry party over here now. Whole country is bananas with rage over some half-fictional movie.
And the best part being, the guy was swedish to start with.
Trailer
here (http://areena.yle.fi/tv/1637310). Like the voice very insightfully points out, sometimes life is uphill, and sometimes downhill.
Quote from: Salamanauhat on August 16, 2012, 11:49:21 AM
Quote from: NEHPF on August 15, 2012, 06:11:21 PM
So, YLE (Finland's national public-broadcasting company) funded a movie about our national hero, Mannerheim. Apparently, Mannerheim is played by a kenyan actor and the movie was shot in Kenya. No one has seen the movie but there is going to be some kind of a press conference later on. But it's a HUGE PC Faggotry party over here now. Whole country is bananas with rage over some half-fictional movie.
And the best part being, the guy was swedish to start with.
Trailer here (http://areena.yle.fi/tv/1637310). Like the voice very insightfully points out, sometimes life is uphill, and sometimes downhill.
Oh boy, this is too fucking good to be true.
Quote from: Brad on August 15, 2012, 09:09:20 PM
http://www.vice.com/en_ca/read/confessions-of-a-male-feminist-i-pee-sitting-down
when I do I fart more.
totally useless
Not really about political correctness this either but still funny:
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/breaking-news/virgin-review-after-pedophile-complaint/story-fn3dxiwe-1226447810854
One for the MRM?
A bit of pc anti-faggotry -
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-08-18/russian-activists-sue-madonna/4207350 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-08-18/russian-activists-sue-madonna/4207350)
QuoteMaybe someone does not see the link but after Madonna's concert maybe some boy becomes gay, some girl becomes lesbian, fewer children are born as a result and this big country cannot defend its borders - for me it causes moral suffering.
A lesbian version of Tawana Brawley - http://www.theblaze.com/stories/police-woman-faked-gruesome-anti-gay-attack-to-spark-change-may-have-even-carved-gay-slurs-into-own-skin/
taped 'belgian police brutality' stirs some shit over here
http://youtu.be/5UnscdNhBC4 (http://youtu.be/5UnscdNhBC4)
...couldn't care less, should prob do it more imho....
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/13/sweden-left-party-toilet-stand_n_1590572.html
http://www.inquisitr.com/255241/urinating-standing-up-may-soon-be-illegal-in-europe/
http://www.thenakedscientists.com/HTML/articles/article/to-sit-or-not-to-sit/
Are most public restrooms around the EU unisex?
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on August 26, 2012, 11:18:15 PM
Are most public restrooms around the EU unisex?
Haha of course not and those are some seriously dumbass hysterical propaganda 'news' stories.
I do remember being at a gig billed as a 'Ladyfest' in Berlin in 2006 with some OK sounding Peaches style rappers performing (Angie Reed, Ester Louder), they had an experimental unisex toilet and I was stood next to butch dykes at the urinal practising their pissing standing up thing. Some kind of lecture on feminism was going on in the outside courtyard, no-one was listening and the compere got emotional. Everyone there was drunk and behaving badly. Great and funny night.
If there's not many unisex restrooms, who is pissing all over the ladies rooms?
I saw the comment about being illegal (or could become illegal) for men to piss standing up in Sweden & thought it had to be a joke...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/27/fifty-shades-of-grey-burning_n_1833457.html?utm_hp_ref=canada&ir=Canada
"I do not think I can put into words how vile I think this book is and how dangerous I think the idea is that you get a sophisticated but naive, young women and a much richer, abusive older man who beats her up and does some dreadful things to her sexually," Clare Phillipson of Wearside Women in Need told BBC.
To demonstrate just how opposed the organization is to a story that involves a domineering billionaire spanking and beating a young virgin with a belt, Phillipson has invited supporters to bring copies of "Fifty Shades" to her office to be scorched at a Nov. 5 bonfire.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on August 27, 2012, 08:15:02 PM
If there's not many unisex restrooms, who is pissing all over the ladies rooms?
I saw the comment about being illegal (or could become illegal) for men to piss standing up in Sweden & thought it had to be a joke...
I don't understand it either. The only possibility would be if it is about men standing to piss in private. But that's bullshit either, because the only thing that could be done, is that women file a complaint by the police, who should then investigate it. Never gonna happen for something as stupid as this...
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on August 27, 2012, 08:15:02 PM
If there's not many unisex restrooms, who is pissing all over the ladies rooms?
I saw the comment about being illegal (or could become illegal) for men to piss standing up in Sweden & thought it had to be a joke...
Nope never heard anything about it being illegal to stand and piss in Sweden. Although it seems like the sort of thing Swedish feminist of either gender would try to push down everyone's, well not throat perhaps, but something.
Quote from: Jordan on August 28, 2012, 06:42:25 AM
"I do not think I can put into words how vile I think this book is and how dangerous I think the idea is that you get a sophisticated but naive, young women and a much richer, abusive older man who beats her up and does some dreadful things to her sexually," Clare Phillipson of Wearside Women in Need told BBC.
See http://theulstermanreport.com/2012/08/16/50-shades-of-grey-pedophilia-hiding-in-plain-sight-letter-from-a-reader/ for another condemnation -
She is given the age of 21, but that age is itself a cover.
Quote from: Strömkarlen on August 28, 2012, 03:31:34 PMNope never heard anything about it being illegal to stand and piss in Sweden.
Quote from: HongKongGoolagong on August 27, 2012, 01:45:19 AM
Haha of course not and those are some seriously dumbass hysterical propaganda 'news' stories.
I tend to believe the "PC faggotry" what is going on, is hardly even that. Media and attention hungry people know that scandal sells, and that anti-PC troopers whatever their stand would be based on, jump on every shitty "news article".
It's simply daily news to see the headlines of disinformation, twisted words, twisted truths, and while many bark loudly about all the PC people out there, one needs simply few lines of utmost BS and "anti-PC" league gets all agitated over nothing, hah...
I guess soon we will just try to remember days when it was marginal thing about people trolling for fun - but turned into integral part of ALL communication in all types. What in the hell it's meant to achieve other than boost sales (of magazines/newspaper/online advertizing space), I don't have clear idea. Most likely simply the route to prevent anything have any real meaning or validity. Function what may be useful in some situations.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-19390785
Now I am really confused about this urination meme management.
Quote from: HongKongGoolagong on August 28, 2012, 05:17:20 PM
Quote from: Jordan on August 28, 2012, 06:42:25 AM
"I do not think I can put into words how vile I think this book is and how dangerous I think the idea is that you get a sophisticated but naive, young women and a much richer, abusive older man who beats her up and does some dreadful things to her sexually," Clare Phillipson of Wearside Women in Need told BBC.
See http://theulstermanreport.com/2012/08/16/50-shades-of-grey-pedophilia-hiding-in-plain-sight-letter-from-a-reader/ for another condemnation - She is given the age of 21, but that age is itself a cover.
That's pretty hilarious. I just read the the author of
50 Shades of Grey used to write twilight slash fiction, so maybe kiddie porn is her thing, although I think she would obviously be an ephebophile (because I imagine the sex scenes include a developed chest, and her twilight obsession), not a pedophile. Man, these battered-women-types and rape-dog-whistle-listen-dogs are kind of making me want to go and read the damned book.
Who says only men can have violent child-sex fantasies?
A funny comment from the link you posted:
QuoteR. J.
August 17, 2012 at 2:07 am
Everything being done to our culture is done to destroy it, from the removal of religion from the public square to "modern art". The debasement of society, destruction of the family and other traditional values (gay marriage) are all part of a grand scheme to make the state and government the end-all and be-all of society. Nothing must survive to compete with it. Read "1984″, sex is just a perfunctory act, no love, no intimacy, just animal baseness. It is all part of their plan...
I'm all with the destruction the poster describes until they get hung up on the state thing. You can be for those things and anti-state, too.
Quoterosie
August 17, 2012 at 4:30 pm
The emotional development of narcissists is usually described to be around 12 or 13 no matter the actual age....that analysis/diagnosis has been made re: Obama. And there is the suspicion that he too, by his own "fictional" description, was sexually abused by his so called "mentor", radical porn writer Davis!! Ties in too with his alleged (via WHI) addiction to the personal power of his use of drones which shows another complete divorce of connecting emotionally with reality! Narcissists have had some physical or existential reason for having their thinking connected to their arrested emotional/psychological maturity. They must continue to somehow rationalize such behavior or the real "cure" of having to deal with their personal reality becomes too scary to them to handle.
My mother's best friend, age 66 and a fruity old gal, has a copy of 50 Shades - I may ask for a borrow based on these insane reviews. It was originally purely a Twilight fanfic published online then slightly rewritten.
The comments sections of these kind of blogs are a route to madness.
Since they are change the name and not stick with their plan I guess this is the right thread :)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/29/hitler-clothing-store-india-outrage_n_1839804.html
Well done daddy-ho
http://www.buzzfeed.com/rsultan/this-dads-superhero-cape-is-a-skirt
Gilbert Gottfried reads 50 Shades of Grey
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5K1RcKJVbHA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5K1RcKJVbHA)
This should be in a thread about humour but some would consider it unPC. I caught a few minutes of a roast of Roseanne Barr on Comedy Central. Jeff Ross said "How many personalities do you have, 8 or 9? What are the odds they'd all be cunts?" He then went into a bit about her being molested as a child saying something about 'we feel sorry for the child molestor'. She laughed at the molestor jokes but for a second or so, she looked a little hurt over the multiple personality joke. The CC Roasts use to be pretty good but seem to have gone downhill since Greg Giraldo died. I missed Amy Schumar who's pretty funny (does rape jokes) & easy on the eyes.
Children's author Stina Wirsén has had a poster for a coming animated movie of hers removed, because one of the characters looked like a stereotypical African (http://www.brokiga.com//wp-content/uploads/2012/08/temp_logo.jpg - the one to the right). Which is ironical since Wirsén's work is generally very PC, pro-multiculture et c; accusing her work of racism is downright ignorant. How many African children doesn't look more or less like that character?
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on September 11, 2012, 12:43:59 AM
This should be in a thread about humour but some would consider it unPC.
i posted it here because of the ongoing 50 Shades of Grey Discussion
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/sep/11/channel-4-cancels-screening-islam
Paris magazine's Muhammad cartoons prompt fears for French embassies
Security boosted at French outposts as Charlie Hebdo publishes cartoons mocking the prophet Muhammad
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guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 19 September 2012 11.21 BST
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Charlie Hebdo's HQ
Police guard the building where Charlie Hebdo is based in Paris. Photograph: Fred Dufour/AFP/Getty Images
Security at French embassies around the world has been reinforced after the Paris-based satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo published cartoons mocking the prophet Muhammad.
Amid continuing protests by Muslims around the globe over a controversial anti-Islam film, French ministers and religious leaders called for restraint, and riot police were posted outside the magazine's offices.
French embassies and schools in 20 countries will be temporarily closed on Friday, as a precautionary measure in case of fresh protests after prayers, the foreign ministry said.
The offices of Charlie Hebdo were firebombed last November after it published an edition entitled Charia Hebdo, supposedly guest-edited by Muhammad.
France's prime minister, Jean-Marc Ayrault, said in a statement: "In the current climate, the prime minister wishes to stress his disapproval of all excesses and calls on everyone to behave responsibly."
Questioned on RTL radio, he added: "We are in a country where the freedom of expression is guaranteed, along with the freedom to caricature. If people really feel their beliefs are offended and think the law has been broken – and we are in a state where the law must be totally respected — they can go to the courts."
He was speaking amid calls for protests in the French capital on Saturday against the film Innocence of Muslims, which has sparked a wave of retaliatory attacks on US and other western embassies around the world.
An Afghan suicide bombing linked to protests about the film killed 12 people on Tuesday, bringing the death toll to more than 30.
Ayrault said a request had been made for police authorisation to hold the demonstration, but that it would be refused. On Sunday, police arrested more than 100 people who had gathered to protest near the US embassy in Paris.
The publication of the caricatures, on the inside and back page of Charlie Hebdo – whose website is blocked, for unknown reasons – brought widespread condemnation.
Essam Erian, the acting head of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood's Freedom and Justice Party, said the French judiciary should deal with the issue as firmly as it had handled the case against the magazine that published topless pictures of the Duchess of Cambridge.
"If the case of Kate (the duchess) is a matter of privacy, then the cartoons are an insult to a whole people. The beliefs of others must be respected," he told Reuters.
Mahmoud Ghozlan, a spokesman for the Muslim Brotherhood, said that French law should deal with insults against Islam in the same way as it deals with Holocaust denial.
"If anyone doubts the Holocaust happened, they are imprisoned, yet if anyone insults the prophet, his companions or Islam, the most (France) does is to apologise in two words. It is not fair or logical," he said.
Richard Prasquier, president of the Representative Council for Jewish Institutions, said he disapproved of the Charlie Hebdo cartoons after the killings in the row over the film.
"It is in consideration of those deaths that I disapprove of Charlie Hebdo's initiative," he said in a statement. "To publish caricatures of the prophet Muhammad in these times, in the name of freedom, is an irresponsible kind of panache."
Dalil Boubakeur, the senior imam at the Grande Mosquée de Paris, appealed for France's Muslim community, which is the largest in Europe, to remain calm and not "throw oil on the fire".
André Vingt-Trois, the Catholic Archbishop of Paris, told French radio the cartoons would "provoke revulsion among many Muslim believers, who will feel their faith has been insulted". He added: "You cannot say anything in the name of freedom of expression."
Laurent Fabius, the minister of foreign affairs, said he was "against all provocation".
However, Charlie Hebdo's editor, Stéphane Charbonnier, was unrepentant. He said the latest caricatures would shock "only those who will want to be shocked".
In September 2005, the Danish newspaper Jyllands-Posten caused an international storm after publishing 12 cartoons depicting Muhammad.
Protests across the world resulted in more than 100 reported deaths. The Danish embassy in Pakistan was bomb
http://www.viralviralvideos.com/2012/09/14/finnish-anti-drinking-psa-commercial/
Pretty cool! I like the creepy clown & Santa Claus.
that rules! Oh man I needed a good laugh
That kid at the end looked genuinely frightened.
maybe no one told him it was an ad
France wins the cup for PCness
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How prostitution became France's hottest social issue
The new Socialist government's determination to abolish prostitution has the whole country in debate. But what do the sex workers think of the plan?
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The Guardian, Monday 24 September 2012 20.00 BST
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prostitute in the bois de boulogne
A prostitute working from a campervan in the Bois de Boulogne. Photograph: Amy Toensing/Getty Images
In a parking bay on a deserted industrial estate in Lyon, Karen, in her late 40s, sat in the passenger seat of her second-hand Ford Transit van wearing only black underwear. It was 7.30pm on a Friday night. She lit a pink lantern on the dashboard. Soon, a steady flow of cars was circling the car park – Mercedes, jeeps, old bangers — their drivers slowing to peer at the women in corsets sitting alone in a dozen parked, white vans, arms folded, candlelight flickering across their faces. "Some men drive round for hours just staring," she said. "Then they'll stop, ask the price, and demand a discount. I'll say, 'What, for all that petrol you've wasted?'"
A silver car slowed. "20 euros for a blow job, 40 euros for 'love'," she smiled. "Too expensive," said the man, accelerating. A 60-year-old agreed to sex for 40 euros. Karen climbed into the back of the van, which she had decorated with a bed, a heater, purple curtains and a chest of drawers. Three minutes later the man walked out into the night. Karen laid out a clean sheet of paper-towel on the bed, spruced her blond hair. "See, it's all very quick," she said. Most of the evening was spent sitting waiting. Then in 15 minutes, three clients paid for sex, including a Spanish man in his 20s in designer clothes. Each took less than five minutes. She had made her daily quota of cash needed to pay her bills.
A former secretary from the southern naval city of Toulon, three times married, with two daughters, Karen first started selling sex in the 1980s: a brief stint on the street near a Lyon station, working mainly in clients' cars, "which is very uncomfortable". She quit and got married, but in 1992, divorced and with a young child she suddenly needed to "put food on the table". She returned to sex-work, first in a hostess bar, then meeting clients at her home via a newspaper small-ad. For seven years, she has worked on the street in her van, Monday to Saturday from 7pm to around 1am, paying tax as self-employed. "'No pimp, no boss' is my motto. I'd rather do this than an office job, getting shouted at by a boss for a pittance." Her strict rules include condoms for everything and no kissing clients. "You have to hit rock bottom to do this," she said. "It's not an easy job, but it's a job where you can make money quickly. People try to say we're victims, say that we're alienated, that there's a sex attack in our childhood history, but I've never been raped by anyone. This is my free choice." She never looks into a client's eyes in the moment of a sexual exchange – "I look anywhere but" – and they rarely tell her their names. But in her top drawer beside the condom supplies is a petition signed by several of them: in neat writing, stating their profession: such as "public works" or "driver". It's a protest against the new French government's war on prostitution.
Sex work was hardly a priority in the French election campaign, yet it has become one of the defining social issues of Francois Hollande's new Socialist government. In June, the women's minister, Najat Vallaud-Belkacem, made the bold announcement that she wanted to "abolish prostitution" in France and Europe. "My objective, like that of the Socialist party, is to see prostitution disappear," she said. The previous French parliament had already adopted a resolution aiming for a "society without prostitution". But can a government rid society of paid sex? The debate is raging among French intellectuals. Sex workers have taken to the streets, accusing the government of moralistic paternalism, saying Socialists are using the issue to distance themselves from the pariah Dominique Strauss-Kahn. DSK, once the Socialist hope for president, is under official investigation in France over complicity in a pimping operation after sex workers were allegedly procured for his orgies. He said he didn't pay and didn't know the women were sex workers. "I challenge you to distinguish a naked prostitute from any other naked woman," his lawyer told the press. The inquiry has been extended to examine alleged group rape over the question of whether one sex worker was forced. Strauss-Kahn denies any violence.
The "white van women" selling sex on Lyon's industrial estate in Gerland embody the French state's difficult attitudes to prostitution. As in the UK, prostitution itself – receiving money for sex, or paying for sex – is not a crime. But activities around it are. Laws prohibit pimping, human trafficking, buying sex from a minor and soliciting sex in public. Brothels were outlawed in 1946.
Lyon, France's third biggest city, which has around 600 street prostitutes, has always been at the heart of sex worker protests. In 1975, more than 100 prostitutes occupied a church in the city complaining about police harassment, sparking similar protests across France until riot police evicted them. Now the Lyon Transit vans are the new frontline. In 2003, Nicolas Sarkozy, then interior minister, introduced a controversial law against soliciting, making it illegal to stand in a public place known for prostitution dressed in revealing clothes. To get round this, women started working in private vans. Selling sex inside a vehicle was not breaking the law. But police are now using any means to crack down on the growing number of sex-work vans, namely parking tickets and tow-trucks. In Lyon, sex workers complain of constant parking fines and being towed to the pound. Some on the industrial estate owe thousands of euros in parking tickets and pound-release fines accrued each month. "You can get two parking tickets in 20 minutes, or be towed away on Tuesday, pay a fine, and be towed again on Thursday," said one. The women stand their ground. One drives 500km from Bordeaux each week, works and sleeps in her van for four days and nights, before going home. Others travel to the area from Burgundy or Paris.
sex workers take part in an anti-abolition demonstration takes part in a demo Sex-workers in Lyon protest against the government's plans to penalise their clients. Photograph: Jean-Philippe Ksiazek/AFP/Getty Images
The government is planning a major consultation on the abolition of prostitution. One idea under consideration is to criminalise the client, meaning anyone who buys sex from a sex worker would face prison and a fine. There are only a handful of European countries where clients of sex workers face prison. In 1999, Sweden became the first, followed by Norway and Iceland. But it is far from certain that France will put it on the statute books. The French Socialists would like their abolitionist stance to be mirrored in Europe, namely in the country they see as closest in its attitude to prostitution: the UK. Other neighbours have radically different approaches: in Germany, prostitution is legal and municipally regulated; in Spain, vast borderland brothels in places such as La Jonquera in Catalonia are frequented by French clients.
In a cafe near Place de Clichy, in northern Paris, Elizabeth, 49, and seven Algerian transgender sex workers were having coffee before going to work on the streets in the west of Paris. Elizabeth, originally from Cali in Colombia, had arrived in her blue Citroën people carrier, which with a mattress in the boot doubled as her workspace in Paris's Bois de Boulogne park, where she sells sex from 11am to 6pm each weekday, for ¤40. The Bois de Boulogne, a favourite daytime jogging spot of Sarkozy's, is a centre of the crackdown on prostitutes' vans. Elizabeth has had more than 60 parking tickets this year. "I'm considering a hunger strike against the idea of criminalising clients," she said. "If clients risk prison, sex work will be forced underground and into apartments, pimps will benefit, sex workers' security will be compromised. Already the mere talk of clients being criminalised means there are less customers on the street."
For Elizabeth, transsexual sex work is a reflection of daily discrimination. "As a transsexual, you can't find work, no one will rent you an apartment, it's a difficult existence. Often this seems the only option," she said. Two months ago, Jasmine, 30, started working on a road in the Bois de Boulogne after leaving Algiers. "I can't go back to Algeria because of the way I look. My parents think I'm waiting tables here. I just want a normal life as a transsexual, to run a shop or a hairdressers. But I have to pay ¤40 a night to live in a dire hotel room with no toilet. This is the only way I can get the money. I work a few hours a night, 11pm until 2am. I try to choose men in their 40s, who I think are safe. I'm really scared on the street, but I'm most scared of the police."
The government estimates there are 20,000 prostitutes in France, with between 5,000 and 8,000 in Paris. A parliamentary report last year by a rightwing and a Socialist MP who proposed criminalising clients said 90% of street prostitutes were foreign and 80% of sex workers in France were victims of sex trafficking. Where 20 years ago the majority of street prostitutes were French, most are now foreign and criminal networks are increasing, most recently involving Nigerian women or Romanians trafficking Albanians or Moldovans.
In July, six Romanians appeared in court outside Paris charged with pimping: accused of beating women, confiscating their passports and forcing them to work as prostitutes. Last November a similar Romanian network was dismantled, including minors made to work in the Bois de Boulogne. The paper Le Progrès reported that this summer in Lyon police discovered a Chinese woman in her 30s shut in an apartment she hadn't left for three weeks, forced to sell sex according to a "menu" of services translated into Chinese. Clients had replied to a small ad for "massages". But far from trusting the police to protect sex workers, the atmosphere is one of fear and hostility. Some sex workers complain of being insulted and assaulted: in Colmar in 2010, two police officers and a train-worker for the SNCF national rail were convicted of raping a Romanian sex worker. Other allegations of rape are going through the courts.
Meanwhile the state is under pressure to do more against trafficking and sexual slavery. Rights groups say not enough support and protection has been given to trafficked women who cooperate to denounce their abusers.
"Instead of grandstanding about abolishing all prostitution, why don't they immediately end the prostitution of minors and human trafficking? They've already got all the laws to stop that, yet it still exists," said a male sex worker in his 20s, who works nights in the forest of Fontainebleau outside Paris.
There is fierce debate in France over whether all sex workers should be considered victims, or whether "independents", without pimps and beginning to be unionised, should be viewed as separate. Pro-abolition feminists say the act of paying for sex is always an act of violence, forcing the sex worker to anaesthetise themselves and cut themselves off from their own body to endure it. "Slavery hasn't been eradicated, but it has been abolished. The same choice for prostitution would be an advance for civilisation," said the feminist Sylviane Agacinski. Another high-profile feminist, Elisabeth Badinter, co-wrote a counter-argument saying talk of abolishing prostitution was based on "two debatable assumptions: that charging for sex is an affront to women's dignity and that all prostitutes are victims of their bastard clients". She said a woman selling sex was "not necessarily a victim of male oppression". And not all clients were "horrible predators or sexual obsessives who treat the woman as disposable objects".
Cloé Navarro, 27, spokeswoman for the Strass, the French sex workers' union, studied as a nurse and now sells sex on the street in the west of Paris to pay for her postgraduate studies for work with autistic children. She says she feels safer on the street, working in clients' cars or hotels, rather than on the internet, where she can't see the man before accepting an encounter. "This is not a job everyone can do, but it's a real job. You need a lot of empathy. People come to us with problems. Sometimes I think I've got the word 'nurse' stamped on my forehead," she said. She described clients as "everyone", from 20s to 70s, widowers, men with disabilities, "a high percentage" of new fathers with babies and toddlers. "This government is stigmatising sex workers. I work one street away from a police station. The abolitionist approach would push sex work into a no-man's land where we are more likely be attacked," she said.
The new face of the union is its leader, Morgane Merteuil, 25, a postgraduate literature student. She started sex work as a student in a hostess bar in Grenoble, but now works exclusively on the internet as a self-employed escort. A one-time anarchist activist and rebel from a conservative provincial family, she has just published what she calls a feminist sex workers' manifesto. She balks at "media cliches" that sex work divides between low-class work on the street or high-class five-star luxury: "I don't think I've ever met a client in anything more than a cheap hotel costing ¤60 a night," she said. She rails at the new leftwing government for "morality politics" and "paternalism", describes sex-work as a job – "a necessity, like any other job" and demands the immediate scrapping of the law against soliciting.
In Lyon, Karen was preparing to lock up her van and go home to her boyfriend. "It's not possible to abolish prostitution," she said. "Look at the death penalty, did that stop murder?"
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Sexist stereotypes dominate front pages of British newspapers, research finds
Study reveals 78% of front-page articles are written by men, and 84% of those quoted or mentioned are male
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The Duchess of Cambridge and her sister Pippa Middleton were two of the women most likely to be pictured on newspaper front pages. Photograph: Reuters
Sexist stereotypes, humiliating photographs of women and male bylines dominate the front pages of British newspapers, according to research carried out by the industry body Women in Journalism (WiJ).
Male journalists wrote 78% of all front-page articles and men accounted for 84% of those mentioned or quoted in lead pieces, according to analysis of nine national newspapers, Monday to Saturday, over the course of four weeks.
The only females to be regularly pictured in the period were the Duchess of Cambridge; her sister, Pippa Middleton, and the crime victim Madeleine McCann. The three males most likely to be photographed were Simon Cowell, whose biography was published that month; Nicolas Sarkozy, who was fighting an election, and Prince William.
Women's groups, which complained about sexist stereotypes in the media in a presentation to the Leveson inquiry into media ethics, welcomed the research. Anna van Heeswijk, chief executive of Object, said: "With newspapers so male-dominated, is it any surprise that women are portrayed the way they are? Changing the number of female writers and the ways in which women are portrayed in the media is crucial if we are serious about wanting a socially responsible press."
Harriet Harman, the deputy leader of the Labour party, who has long campaigned against sexism, said: "The media is supposed to reflect the views of everybody. How much is it really reflecting the views of women in this country? In parliament, with men in the media reporting on men in parliament, there is a double whammy."
Women in Journalism's research reflects a malaise that George Entwistle, the BBC's new director general, admits is writ large in broadcasting. The BBC has faced pressure over its treatment of women on screen after a series of damaging rows over ageism and sexism involving the newsreader Moira Stuart, the former Strictly Come Dancing judge Arlene Phillips and the former Countryfile presenter Miriam O'Reilly. In recent years, figures such as Anna Ford, Selina Scott, Kate Adie, Dame Joan Bakewell and many others have spoken of their concerns about the treatment of older women by broadcasters.
Entwistle's predecessor, Mark Thompson, also admitted the broadcaster had a "case to answer" over the lack of female presenters, especially in "iconic roles". Entwistle recently went further, saying not enough had been done to promote female experts or ensure they took part in news programmes, including Radio 4's Today programme.
Entwistle said: "There's real headway with Amanda Vickery, Mary Beard and Lucy Worsley. We have made real progress in actively looking for, and finding, great female experts to front our big factual shows, but it's not enough.
"The Today programme struggles because we are dealing with party politics as it is, dealing with the world as it is, and that's a very male place. What the BBC often reflects is the way the world is."
Women in Journalism's study closely reflected research carried out by the Guardian last year, which revealed that in a typical month, 78% of newspaper articles are written by men, 72% of Question Time contributors are men and 84% of reporters and guests on Radio Four's Today programme are men.
The findings are also in line with US research by the 4th Estate earlier this year, which found that in media reports on women's issues, including abortion and birth control, men are quoted around five times more than women.
WiJ found that the most male-dominated title was the Independent newspaper, with 91% of its 70 front-page articles written by men in the period studied. In contrast, 50% of the 24 bylines leading the Express were female journalists.
Among the so-called quality press, the Financial Times had the biggest proportion – 34% – of female writers appearing on its front page. Male bylines are more prevalent at the Telegraph (89%), the Sun (86%) and the Times (82%). The Guardian had a 78% male skew.
Of the 668 people named in lead articles, 84% of those quoted or mentioned were men, most being quoted in their professional capacity. This compared with just 16% women, who were disproportionately likely to be quoted as victims and celebrities.
Although there was greater gender equality in the photographs used on front pages, there was not a single female politician or leader in the top 10 images used during the month in question.
Where powerful women were featured, the images were often unflattering. For instance, the home secretary, Theresa May, appeared as the main picture four times during the month, but three of those were the same image of her pulling her mouth down in an accentuated grimace.
The German chancellor, Angela Merkel, was pictured three times, but twice the shot was of her with her hands thrown up in the air, puffing her cheeks out. There were few pictures in which women looked powerful and serious.
In an interview after appearing before the Leveson inquiry, the singer Charlotte Church described the way women were portrayed in the UK media as despicable. It "erodes everything that women have been trying to build for years and years", she added.Object and three other women's groups, including End Violence Against Women, are monitoring the press for harmful portrayals of women – particularly victims of violence – to raise awareness of the issue during the Leveson inquiry. They are also talking separately to media regulators such as Ofcom about the issue.
Additional research by Rachel Cranshaw.
• This article was amended on 14 October 2012 to rephrase a reference to the abducted child Madeleine McCann being "regularly photographed" during the period in question. She was also referred to as a woman.
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• This article was amended on 14 October 2012 to rephrase a reference to the abducted child Madeleine McCann being "regularly photographed" during the period in question. She was also referred to as a woman.
Hah!
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-10-17/misogyny-redefined-after-gillard-speech/4317468 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-10-17/misogyny-redefined-after-gillard-speech/4317468)
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-10-14/russian-activists-gay-milk/4311912 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-10-14/russian-activists-gay-milk/4311912)
Political correctness - it's a cultural thing.
There are no rainbows in Russia, which is the primary reason they are offended. The gayness is just pretext.
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The milk company is promoting homosexuality because they have a rainbow on the carton? For fuck's sake... I was expecting at least some cartoon characters kissing or something.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0lVbMOMTi0&t=7m30s
Mali: no rhythm or reason as militants declare war on music
Islamist militants are banning music in northern Mali, a chilling proposition for a country where music is akin to mineral wealth
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guardian.co.uk, Tuesday 23 October 2012 17.29 BST
The pickup halted in Kidal, the far-flung Malian desert town that is home to members of the Grammy award-winning band Tinariwen. Seven AK47-toting militiamen got out and marched to the family home of one of the band members. He wasn't home, but the message delivered to his sister was chilling: "If you speak to him, tell him that if he ever shows his face in this town again, we'll cut off all the fingers he uses to play his guitar with."
The gang then removed guitars, amplifiers, speakers, microphones and a drum kit from the house, doused them with petrol, and set them ablaze. In northern Mali, religious war has been declared on music.
When a rabble of different Islamist groups took control of the region in April there were fears that its rich culture would suffer. But no one imagined that music would almost cease to exist – not in Mali, a country that has become internationally renowned for its sound.
Toumani Diabaté, Malian kora player in Bamako Toumani Diabaté, Malian kora player, in Bamako. Photograph: Karen Robinson/ Karen Robinson
"Culture is our petrol," says Toumani Diabaté, the Malian kora player who has collaborated with Damon Albarn and Björk, to name but a few. "Music is our mineral wealth. There isn't a single major music prize in the world today that hasn't been won by a Malian artist."
"Music regulates the life of every Malian," adds Cheich Tidiane Seck, a prolific Malian musician and producer. "From the cradle to the grave. From ancient times right up to today. A Mali without music? No ... I mean ... give me another one!"
And yet that is the bland reality dawning on this once joy-filled land. International observers claim the leaders of the three armed Islamic groups who now control the northern Malian cities of Timbuktu, Kidal and Gao are motivated by money and power rather the dream of a caliphate in the Sahel. There are strong ties between these groups and the less than holy interests of major drug-traffickers and arms smugglers.
But many of the mujahideen who have zoned in on the conflict from all over the Muslim world are fired by an unquestionable religious zeal. The same goes for Iyad Ag Ghaly, a Touareg strongman and born-again Salafist, who founded the Ansar-ud-Deen movement at the end of last year.
"He believes in what he's doing," says Manny Ansar, director of the Festival in the Desert that has been taking place every January in and around Timbuktu and Kidal since 2001. "And that's what frightens me. I'm not convinced that he wants to kill everyone who is not a Muslim, like the people in al-Qaida do, but I've seen him giving up the fruits of this life for God."
Back in the 1990s, before he succumbed to the preaching of the Pakistani proselytising movement Tablighi Jamaat, Ghaly liked to smoke cigarettes and hang out with musicians from Tinariwen. He even composed songs and poems of love, rebellion and the beauty of his desert home. Now music, and with it a major source of communal cohesion and well being, has either disappeared or gone underground throughout the territory under his control.
An official decree banning all western music was issued on 22 August by a heavily bearded Islamist spokesman in the city of Gao. "We don't want the music of Satan. Qur'anic verses must take its place. Sharia demands it," the decree says.
The ban comes in the context of a horrifically literal and gratuitous application of Sharia law in all aspects of daily life. Militiamen are cutting off the hands and feet of thieves or stoning adulterers. Smokers, alcohol drinkers and women who are not properly attired are being publicly whipped. As one well-known Touareg musician from Kidal tells me: "There's a lack of joy. No one is dancing. There are no parties. Everybody's under this kind of spell. It's strange."
Ansar adds: "People think that the problem is new. But the menace of al-Qaida started to have an effect on us in 2007. That's when al-Qaida people started to appear in the desert. They came to the nomad camps near Essakane [the beautiful dunes to the west of Timbuktu where the Festival in the Desert used to be held] and at first they were pleasant and said, 'Don't worry, we're Muslims like you.' Then they began to say, 'We have a common enemy, which is the west.' That's when I understood that things were going to get difficult."
The Kel Ansar
U2 singer Bono attends Mali's Festival in the Desert music festival in Timbuktu U2 singer Bono attends Mali's Festival in the Desert music festival in Timbuktu. Photograph: Serge Daniel/AFP/Getty Images
Remarkably, al-Qaida in the Islamic Maghreb (Aqim) never targeted the festival or any of the thousands of westerners who braved the journey to attend it. According to Ansar, some people put this down to the fact that his tribe, the Kel Ansar, are said to be descended directly from Muhammad and are highly revered. "Others even thought that we cast spells to block their route," he says with a wry laugh. In truth, Aqim knew that if they wanted to keep the locals sweet and compliant, they were well advised not to mess with the Kel Ansar.
Not all music events were so blessed. Returning from the Tamadacht festival near the eastern town of Anderamboukane in January 2009, a British tourist, Edwin Dyer, was kidnapped and sold to Aqim, who beheaded him four months later because the UK government refused to pay a ransom. It forced the Festival in the Desert to move into the safe confines of Timbuktu city limits in 2010.
This year in January, no doubt the last festival to be held in Timbuktu for a while occurred in an atmosphere of high alert after recent kidnappings and the murder of a German tourist by al-Qaida. The event was attended by Tinariwen, a host of other Touareg and Malian musicians and Bono.
"I was impressed by Bono's courage and that of his team," Manny says. "He asked the soldiers who were assigned to protect him to leave him be and let him roam around the town freely or go and drink tea out on the dunes. But I wondered if I wasn't a bit mad myself to let him do that. I mean, Bono, kidnapped! Imagine that." La Maison, the hotel in Timbuktu where Bono and his entourage stayed, is now the headquarters of the city's Islamic tribunal.
Manny felt like giving up when the rebellion erupted a few days after the end of the festival. But after talking to many musicians, as well as friends and international backers, he decided to organise a Caravan of Peace and Unity that will tour west Africa and visit refugee camps in February next year. He will also be promoting the Festival in the Desert in Exile in Europe, the Middle East, the US and elsewhere. "It's my way of fighting back," he says. "Before our music was heard in Essakane. Now it'll be heard in all the big festivals in the world. So it's the opposite of what the Islamists want. It's our victory and their defeat."
Tinariwen performing at the World Cup 2010 Kickoff concert in Soweto, South Africa Tinariwen, seen here performing at the World Cup 2010 Kickoff concert in Soweto, South Africa. Photograph: Jon Hrusa/EPA
Meanwhile, almost all the musicians in the north have fled the country like more than 500,000 of their fellow Malians, most of whom languish in refugee camps in Algeria, Mauritania, Niger or Burkina Faso. It is the biggest humanitarian crisis the Sahel has ever known. "There's no music up there any more," says Vieux Farka Touré, son of the king of the West African blues, the late Ali Farka Touré. "You can't switch on a radio or a TV, even at home."
The town of Niafunké just south west of Timbuktu, where Ali Farka Touré was mayor for many years, is now under Islamist control. "I know that if Ali were to awake from his tomb today," says Afel Bocoum, Tour´'s former sidekick and Albarn's partner on the 2002 Mali Music project, "he would just go straight back into it. He would die twice." Both Bocoum and Vieux Farka Touré have fled south to the safety of the Malian capital, Bamako, with their families.
But down south, music is also in crisis, for related reasons. The military coup that toppled President Amadou Toumani Touré on 23 March and kissed goodbye to one of Africa's most lauded democracies has left the capital, Bamako, fearful and economically depressed. "People just aren't used to meeting soldiers in the street, so they tend to stay at home," says Adam Thiam, one of Mali's leading journalists.
Many live music venues in Bamako, such as Le Diplomat, where Diabaté and his Symmetric Orchestra used to play every weekend, have closed. The same goes for hotels and restaurants, starved of their once plentiful foreign tourist clientele. Nightclubs and weddings are still thriving but the trend is to save money by hiring sound systems and DJs rather than live musicians. "People use what they earn to feed themselves, not to have fun," says Bassekou Kouyate.
But in west Africa, when the going gets tough, the rappers get going. Like Y'en A Marre, a collective that ignited nationwide debate during Senegal's election crisis last year, rappers in Mali have stepped up to denounce political skulduggery, Islamism and military rule.
Malian singer Rokia Traoré Malian singer Rokia Traoré. Photograph: Simon Grosset/Rex Features
"I don't give a fuck what they say," is Malian rapper Amkoullel's terse answer to a question about the Islamist music ban. "We won't let them get away with it. We don't need them to teach us how to be Muslims. We're a secular tolerant country, where everyone declares their religion according to their feeling. And in any case, they know that a Mali without music is an impossibility."
Amkoullel set up his own pressure group of rappers, activists and friends called Plus Jamais Ça (Never Again). So far he has released a couple of videos, including one called SOS, which has become a YouTube hit. It has also been censored by the state broadcaster ORTM, which is still under the heavy hand of the military.
"We had this feeling that a heavy blow had been dealt to democracy," Amkoullel says of the 23 March putsch. "And it had been done in a period of popular disillusion. It's as if in the collective consciousness, democracy was a failure in Mali." Like Les Sofas de la Republique, the other rap collective raising the standard in rhyme for unity, democracy, peace and good governance, Amkoullel and his team have been organising demonstrations, debates and gigs. He has also received three death threats.
"I knew that our phones were being bugged," he says. "Then I got this call that was like, 'Yeah ... we're watching you, so you'd better calm down or take the consequences.' The second message wasn't from the same person. 'You're talking too much,' they said. 'Shut up or you'll disappear and won't understand a thing.' That was much clearer!"
And yet, despite the twin-pronged threat to the culture they have made world famous, all the musicians of Mali agree it remains at the core of their identity. "I'm a Muslim, but Sharia isn't my thing," says Rokia Traoré, one of Mali's most famous international stars. "If I couldn't go up on stage anymore, I would cease to exist. And without music, Mali will cease to exist."
Not so much PC faggotry as PC bastadry.
religious bigotry is the terminal PCness
These types of protests are fine by me...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2134555/Lush-animal-testing-protest-Woman-subjected-experiments-horrified-shoppers.html
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Quote from: Strömkarlen on August 28, 2012, 03:31:34 PMNope never heard anything about it being illegal to stand and piss in Sweden.
Quote from: HongKongGoolagong on August 27, 2012, 01:45:19 AM
Haha of course not and those are some seriously dumbass hysterical propaganda 'news' stories.
I tend to believe the "PC faggotry" what is going on, is hardly even that. Media and attention hungry people know that scandal sells, and that anti-PC troopers whatever their stand would be based on, jump on every shitty "news article".
It's simply daily news to see the headlines of disinformation, twisted words, twisted truths, and while many bark loudly about all the PC people out there, one needs simply few lines of utmost BS and "anti-PC" league gets all agitated over nothing, hah...
I guess soon we will just try to remember days when it was marginal thing about people trolling for fun - but turned into integral part of ALL communication in all types. What in the hell it's meant to achieve other than boost sales (of magazines/newspaper/online advertizing space), I don't have clear idea. Most likely simply the route to prevent anything have any real meaning or validity. Function what may be useful in some situations.
Mikko, this is so true in The States. I consider myself left of the mark but so far from a PC trooper. These kinds of articles make it easy for slovenly, "traditional" Christian conservatives in my country to point to the "decline" of traditional family values and of our country as a whole. Just more bitching about "pussification", acceptance of homosexuality and "the brown man" getting rights.
Here in Los Angeles, the infamous KFI 640 talk radio channel is notorious for running half-truth stories to enrage born-again Christian police officer fathers.
"4th Grade Teacher at South Los Angeles School Teaches That Anal Sex Between Two Men is OK, Brings In Pictures to Demonstrate"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-20087742 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-20087742)
New York policeman 'in cannibal plot'
A New York City policeman has been arrested for an alleged plot to kidnap women, rape and torture them and then cook and eat their body parts. Authorities say Gilberto Valle kept files of more than 100 women on his computer.
Nam, nam.
Shouldn't that be in the "True Crimes" section?
He stalks the living to feed on the dead...
(http://www.dreadcentral.com/img/news/aug08/ManiacCop.jpg)
Quote from: hsv on October 26, 2012, 01:40:35 PM
He stalks the living to feed on the dead...
(http://www.dreadcentral.com/img/news/aug08/ManiacCop.jpg)
I always preferred his look in the original.
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_cNzqA2wbY5E/SYgf7CvBK5I/AAAAAAAACvQ/LCac6ZC0Hqo/s400/maniac%2520cop%25203.jpg)
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on October 26, 2012, 10:15:00 AM
Shouldn't that be in the "True Crimes" section?
Hei, was considering this as well. Though landed here. Fitting Maniac Cop images. Kudos for idea!
http://ghostbec.tumblr.com/post/34594300019/timeofthedecade-bigdaddyg-wil-this-guy
Looks like the guy is smiling.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on October 30, 2012, 12:46:05 AM
http://ghostbec.tumblr.com/post/34594300019/timeofthedecade-bigdaddyg-wil-this-guy
Looks like the guy is smiling.
This guy is on to something. Fetishizing feminism, feminists, red stockings, etc is an interesting form of radical politics. This I would like to see more often applied.
not really PC faggotry, but perhaps faggotry of some sort, haha..
NEW YORK - Orthodox Jewish groups sued New York City on Thursday to try to block a new rule requiring parental consent for a circumcision ritual in which the circumciser uses his mouth to draw blood from the baby's penis.
The lawsuit, filed in U.S. District Court, says the regulation is unconstitutional and violates religious freedom by targeting a Jewish ritual.
The rule, adopted unanimously by the New York City Board of Health last month, is aimed at reducing the risk that infants will contract herpes from the ancient ritual.
Using oral suction to take blood from the area of the circumcision wound is common in some of New York's ultra-Orthodox Jewish communities.
At least 11 boys caught herpes from the practice between 2004 and 2011, according to city health officials. Two of them died from the disease and two others suffered brain damage, they said.
Under the rule, parents must sign a consent form that says the health department advises that "direct oral suction should not be performed" because of the risk of contracting herpes.
The lawsuit says the city's conclusion that the ritual increases the risk of herpes is based on a flawed analysis and is not statistically sound.
"That opinion is based on limited study, inaccurate assumptions, and deficient data, all of which remain actively debated within medical and scientific communities," it says.
City Health Commissioner Thomas Farley defended the regulation.
"The city's highest obligation is to protect its children; therefore, it is important that parents know the risks associated with the practice," he said in a statement.
The plaintiffs include the Central Rabbinical Congress of the United States and Canada, the International Bris Association and several individual circumcisers, known as mohelim.
They want a judge to issue an injunction suspending the regulation.
The lawsuit says it violates the right to free speech because "the government cannot compel the transmission of messages that the speaker does not want to express."
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's just pedophiliac faggotry. How anyone could defend mutilating then sucking off the genitals screaming infants as a religious freedom is beyond me, although, it is pretty hilarious.
Sue-ing for the right to suck the blood from a baby's cock that's just been hacked on the grounds of free speech. Of course.
I went through the thread and didn't find this article, even though it's from the start of the year, so -
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2012/jan/13/norway-top-music-prize (http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2012/jan/13/norway-top-music-prize)
Not quite faggotry, more like PC totalitarianism: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/story/2012/11/07/sk-terry-tremaine-sentenced-1211.html
From the article:
"He is free to flout the order I am about to issue, but he must remember that freedom has its price."
How in the world could they possibly think that the use of the word 'freedom' in that sentence is at all justified?
Quote...Harrington ordered Tremaine to take steps to remove his posting from two websites — Stormfront.org and the National Socialist Party of Canada website.
Wait, what?! Are they just using this bloke as some kind of test case or something? Jailing someone for posting remarks from white supremist and white nationalist websites because the remarks are fucking racist? Am I reading this right?
Public expression of "racism" is illegal in many countries. They fall under hate crimes of some sort. There is no "free speech" in a way that one could say whatever without consequence. We have no censorship, meaning we can print basically whatever we want without asking big brother first, BUT it doesn't mean that there couldn't be consequence after you have done it.
So you have right and possibility to say and print things, but you will have to answer for it. This means people over here do end up in trials for "hate speech", "agitation against group of people", "disrupting religious sensibilities" or whatever you'd call these in english. Go to germany, and mere positive opinion about 3rd Reich is simply illegal.
Certainly it would be foolish to think free speech exists in any bigger extent than what it serves in prevailing social order. In some other system we'd have freedoms of different types and restrictions of other type.
Canada is notorious for their strict policy for "hate crimes", which includes mere personal opinions and artistic expression.
new anti dij campaign on the who makes the nazis website.
the columinists seems to get very excited to use the "F" word. I counted it at least 21 times.
I suspect Tremaine's been pinged for other reasons. You don't just single out someone for posting racist remarks on the website of the Canadian NSP or on Stormfront.
When looking who is the man in charge, you could imagine "who makes the nazis" site guys being lawyers, "fighting" with his own agenda.
He has admitted to be trolling on such websites to incite more hateful messages and be able to identify who are the people behind aliases. When forum operates in USA, you can't necessary shut them down. You could try identify people and when you do - file lawsuit against them.
"
Richard Warman is an Ottawa-based lawyer who is active in human rights law.
He is best known as the primary instigator of actions related to Internet content under Section 13(1) of the Canadian Human Rights Act against people including white supremacists and neo-Nazis.
Warman's libel lawsuits generally are "nuisance suits" that are part of Warman's "maximum disruption" policy.
"
We have neat case in Finland with one professor who is busy filing defamation & nuisance lawsuits against people he fights against.
Holy crap, if you could take people to court for saying/writing something that hurt someone's feelings in the US, the courts would be JAM-PACKED!
now where would we be if anybody could just say whatever they want :D
Brussels can not have it's christmas tree because it would offend other religions...
http://www.skynet.be/nieuws-sport/nieuws/artikel/926729/brussel-mag-geen-kerstboom-hebben?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=like&fb_action_ids=444697318920508&fb_action_types=og.recommends&fb_source=aggregation&fb_aggregation_id=288381481237582 (http://www.skynet.be/nieuws-sport/nieuws/artikel/926729/brussel-mag-geen-kerstboom-hebben?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=like&fb_action_ids=444697318920508&fb_action_types=og.recommends&fb_source=aggregation&fb_aggregation_id=288381481237582)
Belgium doing what is does best
Kent man arrested after picture of burning poppy posted on internet
Police say that the man from Aylesham had been arrested on suspicion of 'malicious telecommunications'
The Guardian, Monday 12 November 2012
Poppies at the Cenotaph, London
Remembrance Day is marked in London with poppies. Photograph: Paul Brown/ Paul Brown/Demotix/Corbis
Police in Kent have arrested a man after a picture of burning poppy was posted on a social networking site.
The force said in a short press release posted on its website that the man, from Aylesham, had been arrested on suspicion of "malicious telecommunications".
"This follows a posting on a social network site of a burning poppy," said the statement on Sunday, which added that he was in police custody awaiting interview. Police provided no other details of the incident, which comes as the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) is preparing to release interim guidelines for prosecution of offences on social media.
Padraig Reidy, of Index on Censorship, which campaigns on freedom of expression issues, said: "News of this arrest is very worrying. Index hopes that when the CPS issues its guidelines on free speech later this month, due regard will be given to free speech online."
The director of public prosecutions, Ken Starmer QC, announced in September that he was launching a public consultation and issue guidelines on how to deal with the daily avalanche of hundreds of millions of comments – some abusive, some potentially criminal – posted on social media sites.
According to the website of the CPS, the Malicious Communications Act 1988, section 1, "deals with the sending to another of any article which is indecent or grossly offensive, or which conveys a threat, or which is false, provided there is an intent to cause distress or anxiety to the recipient".
The CPS website states: "The offence covers letters, writing of all descriptions, electronic communications, photographs and other images in a material form, tape recordings, films and video recordings."
Last year, Police in Northern Ireland arrested a number of people after a picture of two youths burning a poppy was posted on Facebook.
In another case, also dating from 2011, a who burned replica poppies on Remembrance Day in London was fined £50 after being found guilty of a public order offence.
Emdadur Choudhury, a member of Muslims Against Crusades (MAC), was guilty of a "calculated and deliberate" insult to the dead and those who mourn them when he burned two large plastic poppies during a two-minute silence, according to the district judge in the case.
Malicious Telecommunications - the label. Coming soon.
Maybe I'm dumb but when the article talks about burning a poppy, they mean the flower? I don't understand how that's offensive. I think I must be lacking some cultural insight...
Lots of people wear poppies to symbolise Remembrance Day in the UK. Charity people collect money and give out poppies to people (plastic ones). Although it is quite a big thing here (any politician who wasn't wearing one when on tv would get a lot of shit in the papers) I find it a little strange someone was arrested for this.
let's say they went "a bit" too far...
I don't know how many know this "red nose day" what just happened... last week? I guess burning some red plastic noses would have been appropriate response for this foolishness invading so many countries already.
One day I will write a book entitled "I fucking hate Patch Addams" with my memories of my two years collaboration with Italian clown doctors.
Notice I was not one of them , I was working for a trust that organised some of their training and I was filming their documentaries, etc.
I hated their guts from day one, not for their job per se, but for the kind of specimen that tend to work in these sort of things.
The only good memory I have of them is the documentary "Clown in Kabul" that was quite intense. These people going in dreadful areas of Afghanistan in the worst days of the war.
The movie shows a lot of Patch Addams, but he was there just few hours and moved back to safer places to get some prices/cash.
I have found this old ones:
http://www.lastfm.it/group/Neofolk+Against+Racism/forum/38956/_/446773
It is very funny the Italian guy that claims that FORESTA DI FERRO are explicit/self-declared nazis and the proof is that we used the fascist (sic) "Eia! Eia! Eia! Alalà!" chant.
Fist we never self-declared ourselves anything.
Then we never used that chant, which instead was a battle slogan of Italian aviators who raided Pola in 1918. The poet/pervert/warrior D'annunzio was often using that.
This gentlemen probably confused us with Laibach. I am flattered, but this is how you spread lies.
The same lie was featured in who makes the n. website, but this time was attached to Ostara, who also never did anything like that.
Going back to the SUN,
I love these contraddictions:
Anger at 'politically correct' sex gangs report
Exclusive
By GRAEME WILSON, Deputy Political Editor
Published: 8 hrs ago
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A REPORT on Britain's child abuse epidemic will deny a problem with Pakistani men targeting white girls — for fear of being seen as racist.
England's deputy children's commissioner Sue Berelowitz is to publish the bombshell report next week saying kids are facing abuse in every town and city.
But, in an explosive move, she will not state there is a specific problem with Pakistani men grooming and abusing vulnerable white girls.
Instead, Ms Berelowitz will argue that young girls are abused by men from all ethnic backgrounds.
Police and social services have already been accused of turning a blind eye to sexual abuse by Pakistani gangs in Rochdale, Lancs, and Rotherham, South Yorkshire.
One Whitehall source said: "It's important we don't take a politically-correct approach and pretend there is not a real problem here.
"Obviously abuse has been carried out by men from all sorts of ethnic background.
"But that doesn't mean we cannot say there is an issue about groups of Pakistani men systematically targeting young white girls."
Ms Berelowitz's report is expected to paint a bleak picture of the scale of sex abuse across Britain.
Earlier this year she told a Commons committee how mobs of men and boys inflicted sickening attacks on young girls.
She revealed how one girl was repeatedly raped over several days by boys aged 14 and 15.
Her assailants used BlackBerry Messenger to tell pals to join in.
In many cases, the attackers bragged that they were trying to act out scenes they had watched in hardcore porn movies.
Girls as young as 11 were also forced to perform sex acts on large groups of boys for several hours.
And a group of men forced two boys to have sex and then used video footage to blackmail them into luring girls for them to rape.
Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/politics/4647347/Anger-at-politically-correct-sex-gangs-report.html#ixzz2CNPwQwyk
Quote from: tiny_tove on November 16, 2012, 10:30:04 AM"Eia! Eia! Eia! Alalà!" chant.
First I heard that chant was Laibach, second was from that LaVey album. I read later that it was supportively the "official" chant of the Italian fascists. Is that true? I quite like it, wouldn't mind knowing a bit more.
Alalà is a greek war cry, Eja was shouted by Alexander the great while riding his horse Bucefalo.
The origin is previous than fascism, as said D'annunzio used it at forst as a cherful war-cry that replaces anglo-saxon hip hip hurrà.
The original version was eja eja eja alalà. Apparently he got inspired and found it in some Pascoli's books (one of our main writers).
It was used during WWI during the fight against the Austrians.
At first during the raids on Pola in 1917.
It was featured in his poem song La canzone del carnaro:
http://pippopluto2.altervista.org/lettguerra/dannunzio.htm
There are some right wing rock versions of these, but none notable.
During the acclaimed Fiume invasion in 1919, it was shouted by D'annunzio's followers.
Some years later, probably due to the presence of many veterans of WWI in the ranks of fascist militias, the Eja eja alalà (with two ejas) became also their chant, but it was of common usage in military ranks.
Anyway It sounds quite a funny in Italian. One reason while I never enjoyed that much the Laibach tune (who anyway are still among my faves).
here the fascist song you mentioned,Giovinezza. (youth), but the same ryhme should be featured in several songs. I am not a big fan of that era marches, so I can't help more.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKMd9RYLqps
Quote from: tiny_tove on November 16, 2012, 02:51:47 PM
Alalà is a greek war cry, Eja was shouted by Alexander the great while riding his horse Bucefalo.
The origin is previous than fascism, as said D'annunzio used it at forst as a cherful war-cry that replaces anglo-saxon hip hip hurrà.
The original version was eja eja eja alalà. Apparently he got inspired and found it in some Pascoli's books (one of our main writers).
It was used during WWI during the fight against the Austrians.
At first during the raids on Pola in 1917.
It was featured in his poem song La canzone del carnaro:
http://pippopluto2.altervista.org/lettguerra/dannunzio.htm
There are some right wing rock versions of these, but none notable.
During the acclaimed Fiume invasion in 1919, it was shouted by D'annunzio's followers.
Some years later, probably due to the presence of many veterans of WWI in the ranks of fascist militias, the Eja eja alalà (with two ejas) became also their chant, but it was of common usage in military ranks.
Anyway It sounds quite a funny in Italian. One reason while I never enjoyed that much the Laibach tune (who anyway are still among my faves).
here the fascist song you mentioned,Giovinezza. (youth), but the same ryhme should be featured in several songs. I am not a big fan of that era marches, so I can't help more.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKMd9RYLqps
Best version here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ot_E1ytUOOc starting by 00:52
Thanks for that.
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on November 17, 2012, 01:25:38 AM
Thanks for that.
you are welcome!
I am not an expert in that field. I am a big fan of big-band music, but mostly funeral marches, especially Southerners, this jolly singalong tunes sounds terrible to me.
Changing subject:
THE EFFECTS OF HEAVY METAL MUSIC ON AGGRESSION
http://clearinghouse.missouriwestern.edu/manuscripts/209.php
Quote from: tiny_tove on November 20, 2012, 12:57:21 PM
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on November 17, 2012, 01:25:38 AM
Thanks for that.
you are welcome!
I am not an expert in that field. I am a big fan of big-band music, but mostly funeral marches, especially Southerners, this jolly singalong tunes sounds terrible to me.
Changing subject:
THE EFFECTS OF HEAVY METAL MUSIC ON AGGRESSION
http://clearinghouse.missouriwestern.edu/manuscripts/209.php
The song they used was "Jerk Off" by TOOL and the results showed no correlation between heavy metal and violence. Wonder why...
In other news... Indian woman arrested on Monday after making a political comment on Facebook, as well as her friend who "liked" the comment
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-20405457 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-20405457)
heavy metal, violence, dead animals, nazism.. almost week now been some talk of Goatmoon live gig in Helsinki. Covered in metro.fi (and their newspaper) couple of times, then Radio City, today biggest tabloid made almost full page feature. I was told there was talk in other radiochannels as well. Not very big deal, as band has played live plenty, and there has often been animal carcasses on stage for live gigs. Not very big deal, but of course plenty of discussion in various internet boards as well. Line-up, real names with all the "connections" (other bands etc) exposed in leftist activist forum.
Basically in short: journalists make story in paper, asks statements from venue and organizer. They will promise to do something about it. Newspaper prints front page headline story of "NAZI BAND CANCELLED IN LAST MINUTE", but nobody ever agreed about cancellation, just some small restrictions what can be done on stage. Gig happens, followed with "scandal". I guess it will be forgotten in couple of days, but seems quite good thing to see BM band appear in news for other things than nomination of cultural awards or whatever..
I read something on the NWN forum about Goatmoon- I was thinking it said GM cancelled but same members played in another band? Maybe that was another time. There was a big black metal fest there, right?
This is it. At this point it could be said "same members played in another band", but yeah...
On Misogyny in Industrial Music
http://coilhouse.net/2012/11/on-misogyny-in-industrial-music/
"Ultimately, we shouldn't be too worried about the future of "dark music." It doesn't belong to thse Confederate-flag-waving assholes. It may not even lie in the industrial genre, but with musicians such as Spoek Mathambo, Fever Ray, Light Asylum, HTRK, Chelsea Wolfe, Cat's Eyes, and Kate Stelmanis. Or, musicians in the industrial scene can rise up and continue to call bullshit on the misogyny as it happens, following Ad·ver·sary and Antigen Shift's lead. It would be great to see the scene's most lazy and pandering art replaced with more discourse, critical thinking (both about oneself and one's peers), compassion, inclusivity, and diversity. At its core, this is an issue of othering, of negation, and a lack of basic recognition of others' humanity. Modern incarnations/offspring of the industrial scene can still be angry, hard, heavy... but not hateful or abysmally ignorant."
http://www.theage.com.au/technology/technology-news/obscene-facebook-photo-at-us-cemetery-causes-outrage-20121122-29rex.html (http://www.theage.com.au/technology/technology-news/obscene-facebook-photo-at-us-cemetery-causes-outrage-20121122-29rex.html)
http://www.deredactie.be/cm/vrtnieuws.english/news/121126_HUB_drag (http://www.deredactie.be/cm/vrtnieuws.english/news/121126_HUB_drag)
...when talking about 'a group of youths' in Belgium we all know what their ethnic background is ....struggling with their homosexuality & frustration.
Anders B. Breivik - July 22nd, Oslo.
New released footage from the explosion in the government quarter.
Edited into a documentary on Norwegian Broadcasting Corporation (NRK).
http://www.nrk.no/fordypning/her-parkerer-breivik-bombebilen-1.8593408 (http://www.nrk.no/fordypning/her-parkerer-breivik-bombebilen-1.8593408)
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4639879/Hitler-road-safety-ad-slammed.html
This one is maybe a year old but I thought it was funny how a ton of animal loving, PETA types were up in arms about this, because of the animal of course, not because he is asking clearly under age girls for titsorgtfo..
(http://i.imgur.com/QvRrW.gif)
...i just like watching it.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/nov/27/women-fighting-sexism-media-page-3
horray for boobies
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on November 29, 2012, 08:49:33 PM
Is 'page 3' literally page 3 of the newspaper they're complaining about?!?
In the UK some tabloid papers have topless women everyday on page 3. I'm guessing you don't have that in the US.
Black Petes from Holland
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/dec/05/black-pete-race-netherlands
"Zwarte Piet character is about as funny as wearing a swastika.""
Pretty amusing news from couple days ago. Finnish politician Pertti Salolainen expressed in TV interview that influential jewish population of USA is among reasons why solutions for crisis of middle east won't happen. Internal issues prevents them to take more active and neutral role in middle-east.
Immediately in same day, Simon Wiesenthal center announces their statement, that mr. Salolainen "parroted the anti-Semitic canard that an evil cabal of Jews control the media and the US government....". And with same breath, they demanded "At this point, Finland must immediately act to show that it remains committed to these ideals," by officially condemning and repudiating Salolainen's remarks said Weitzman, who also urged that the government take steps to remove the parliamentarian from any official position.
So lets see... hmm... demand for neutral handling of middle east situation. Just because he said influential internal jewish lobby may have have effect to make foreign politics biased... follows declaration by one of leading jewish "human rights organization" demanding the man be removed from any official positions in politics... ? eheehehh... It's hard to say whether they realize that instead of proving assumption false, they proved it to be true? But of course, intention probably remains favorable anyways: To derail attention from original question somewhere else.
More on Zwarte Pete
http://www.thisisafrica.me/opinion/detail/19715/Black-Pete-the-slave:-Race-Power-and-Identity-in-the-Netherlands#comment-728248421
Swedish artist uses 'ashes from Holocaust victims'
"Artist Carl Michael von Hausswolff said that he stole the ashes from the Majdanek camp during a visit in 1989. The camp, now a museum in Poland, has called the alleged theft an "unimaginably barbaric act"."
"Salomon Schulman, a key figure in Sweden's Jewish community, told Swedish television that the art was "repulsive in the extreme", according to news website The Local."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-20622289 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-20622289)
Quote from: ConcreteMascara on December 06, 2012, 05:30:27 PM
Swedish artist uses 'ashes from Holocaust victims'
"Artist Carl Michael von Hausswolff said that he stole the ashes from the Majdanek camp during a visit in 1989. The camp, now a museum in Poland, has called the alleged theft an "unimaginably barbaric act"."
"Salomon Schulman, a key figure in Sweden's Jewish community, told Swedish television that the art was "repulsive in the extreme", according to news website The Local."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-20622289 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-20622289)
So Micky have had the ashes around for 23 years before using them? Sorry I don't buy this for a second.
The Daily Fail picked this up and have a great picture of him looking all PE and doomy plus a kinda Industrial/TG tribute stock photo of the camp - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2244547/Fury-artist-claims-used-ash-Nazi-concentration-camp-crematorium-painting.html
It's a nice little painting though. http://www.sydsvenskan.se/kultur--nojen/konst--form/konstrecensioner/stulen-aska-banaliserar-folkmord/
In his first response to the artwork, Schulman actually doesn't condemn the artist or the gallery, as I remember it.
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on December 06, 2012, 01:04:56 PM
Pretty amusing news from couple days ago. Finnish politician Pertti Salolainen expressed in TV interview that influential jewish population of USA is among reasons why solutions for crisis of middle east won't happen. Internal issues prevents them to take more active and neutral role in middle-east.
Immediately in same day, Simon Wiesenthal center announces their statement, that mr. Salolainen "parroted the anti-Semitic canard that an evil cabal of Jews control the media and the US government....". And with same breath, they demanded "At this point, Finland must immediately act to show that it remains committed to these ideals," by officially condemning and repudiating Salolainen's remarks said Weitzman, who also urged that the government take steps to remove the parliamentarian from any official position.
So lets see... hmm... demand for neutral handling of middle east situation. Just because he said influential internal jewish lobby may have have effect to make foreign politics biased... follows declaration by one of leading jewish "human rights organization" demanding the man be removed from any official positions in politics... ? eheehehh... It's hard to say whether they realize that instead of proving assumption false, they proved it to be true? But of course, intention probably remains favorable anyways: To derail attention from original question somewhere else.
On the subject, this is causing some stir:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=qHZi_9oUNhM
Expecting some controversy about kids dressing up as traditional "ginger bread men" coming up in Sweden in one, two.... (based in what seems to be a misunderstanding & local newspaper desperately wanting a scoop by highlighting a school's supposed attempt to not appear racist - no matter what the truth is about that particular, there will be a lot of fuss about the dress-up thing...
(http://elsklingen.se/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/091214_pepparkaksgubbe1.jpg)
definitely a stroke of racism & exoticism, no? nice swastikas, though)
How is a gingerbread man racist? Over here, a gingerbread man is a cookie. I can't remember having ever eaten one.
Swastikas are always good, but yea, I'm confused too. I see a cute kid in a cute costume, so that local newspaper you mention must really be scraping the bottom to conflate that with racism.
This is bullshit -
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-12-11/health-workers-told-not-to-use-mate/4420180 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-12-11/health-workers-told-not-to-use-mate/4420180)
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on December 11, 2012, 12:01:02 AM
This is bullshit -
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-12-11/health-workers-told-not-to-use-mate/4420180 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-12-11/health-workers-told-not-to-use-mate/4420180)
Well I got a kneejerk and furious IT'S PC GONE MAD reaction to that, then read through to the last lines - "I think this is more referring to cold-call situations where you're talking to someone on the phone for the first time." If that's true then fair enough.
Firstly - those last sentences where added just recently to the article. "Updated 37 minutes ago" according to the sub-header I'm reading at this time. They must have got some comment from someone to get some context. Thank you, twenty four hour news cycle.
When I read "the need for professional language within the workplace at all times" I assumed "all times" meant "all times". If that was the language of the memo, it would be a fair enough assumption.
But there's an important cultural context. In this country, "mate" is one of the most commonly used terms. You call people you've never met before "mate", even meeting them for the first time. It's instinct. The same for many of the other words. How such common courtesies can be referred to as "disrespectful" and even "disempowering" is absolutely beyond me.
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on December 11, 2012, 01:35:53 AM
In this country, "mate" is one of the most commonly used terms. You call people you've never met before "mate", even meeting them for the first time. It's instinct. The same for many of the other words. How such common courtesies can be referred to as "disrespectful" and even "disempowering" is absolutely beyond me.
Yeah, same in the north of England - it's simply being friendly to be called 'mate' by say a shop assistant you've never met before and something I welcome. But I'm picturing phoning for an ambulance and some fucking patronising idiot saying 'so is the pain in your chest mate' and haha I guess I'm thinking about this too much.
Sure, and I wouldn't put it past it happening every now and then, but of course I'd like to imagine in situations like that the great majority would be more interested in getting the info. The real issues there are, of course, getting an ambulance at all - there's been a lot of ambos getting sick of the job and leaving.
I've been thinking lately, perhaps too much myself, about the issue of "professionalism" within the workplace and how it tends towards a lack of genuine honesty in place of starchy ultra-politeness - a sort of corporate correctness. I haven't quite gotten those thoughts in order yet, but at the moment I'm thinking that the urge many middle-class corporate types feel for a sanitised language that doesn't address real emotions but tries to cover them with a restrictive gloss is becoming more regular for even workplaces that don't normally use such language. I'm sure there's been other people thinking and writing about this.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on December 09, 2012, 08:04:28 PM
How is a gingerbread man racist? Over here, a gingerbread man is a cookie. I can't remember having ever eaten one.
It's all really stupid, and kind of funny. The swedish S:t Lucia celebration on the 13th of december usually involves children doing a musical/theatre performance of some sort featuring Saint Lucia, elves and other christmassy things & characters. At some school somewhere, some kid was told he couldn't dress up as a gingerbread man for the performance because the school hadn't included the "Gingerbread man song" in the program and thought it would make more sense not to have any of those characters in the show.
Only the first half of the story was made known at first, so the anti-PC people went crazy about percieved PC-over-sensitivity, etc. (clearly the character was banned because some brown person objected!) and then the PC people replied that it was racist to regard the gingerbread man tradition as more important than the possible discomfort of brown skinned people, and so on and so forth. When it was made clear to both sides that there never were any racial-equality motives, the debate didn't even stop, it just went weirder.
That's the problem with context - one person's endearment is another's offence. Which is why control of culture is important. US blacks calling each other "nigger" - sounds stupid to me but to people involved in that context it makes sense. They have some control over their culture. People in workplaces define the culture of those places, for better or worse, but then management gets jumpy about someone taking offence and go running to a lawyer. That's usually the incentive for these kinds of things.
"Chief" in the UK is most certainly a double-edged word which lurches uneasily between friendly banter and outright disrespect. In one of Martin Amis's novels - 'The Information' I think - a character flips out violently at someone for 'chiefing him out' (calling him chief). I remember Matthew Bower calling me chief sixteen years ago, the bastard :D
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on December 11, 2012, 02:39:02 AM
Any backlash on brit's using the word 'cunt' all the time?
Cunt as an insult is almost exclusively used between men and men in the UK, and not always in a hugely insulting way - 'ah, you silly cunt' can be almost affectionately indulgent. Unlike what I understand of the American usage, women are largely exempt from being called cunts.
A great PC force in this country right now is Laurie Penny - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laurie_Penny - her newspaper columns infuriate just about everybody. She'll probably end up Prime Minister when I'm in the nursing home.
US judicial system on child support vs. procreation:
http://www.journaltimes.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/deadbeat-dad-sentenced-to-probation-ordered-not-to-procreate/article_50347514-3d80-11e2-9eee-0019bb2963f4.html (http://www.journaltimes.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/deadbeat-dad-sentenced-to-probation-ordered-not-to-procreate/article_50347514-3d80-11e2-9eee-0019bb2963f4.html)
Quote from: Strömkarlen on December 07, 2012, 03:28:25 PM
Quote from: ConcreteMascara on December 06, 2012, 05:30:27 PM
Swedish artist uses 'ashes from Holocaust victims'
"Artist Carl Michael von Hausswolff said that he stole the ashes from the Majdanek camp during a visit in 1989. The camp, now a museum in Poland, has called the alleged theft an "unimaginably barbaric act"."
"Salomon Schulman, a key figure in Sweden's Jewish community, told Swedish television that the art was "repulsive in the extreme", according to news website The Local."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-20622289 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-20622289)
So Micky have had the ashes around for 23 years before using them? Sorry I don't buy this for a second.
I don't know what to make out of this. Could be true, maybe not. Nevertheless it seems to me as a not too interesting art project. The starting point and point of view for the work seems a bit too easy, too obvious, with a blunt provocative edge to it. But the again ... here we are discussing it ... On and end point I have to give it to Carl (if true) that he is probably the first person on planet earth to make lye (water+ashes=a corrosive alkaline substance) from human ashes. That has to make up for something?
Quote from: online prowler on December 11, 2012, 03:11:37 AM
http://www.journaltimes.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/deadbeat-dad-sentenced-to-probation-ordered-not-to-procreate/article_50347514-3d80-11e2-9eee-0019bb2963f4.html (http://www.journaltimes.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/deadbeat-dad-sentenced-to-probation-ordered-not-to-procreate/article_50347514-3d80-11e2-9eee-0019bb2963f4.html)
This is a great idea. I'm all for it. There should be severe restrictions on certain people breeding.
Quote from: online prowler on December 11, 2012, 03:11:37 AM
Quote from: Strömkarlen on December 07, 2012, 03:28:25 PM
Quote from: ConcreteMascara on December 06, 2012, 05:30:27 PM
Swedish artist uses 'ashes from Holocaust victims'
"Artist Carl Michael von Hausswolff said that he stole the ashes from the Majdanek camp during a visit in 1989. The camp, now a museum in Poland, has called the alleged theft an "unimaginably barbaric act"."
"Salomon Schulman, a key figure in Sweden's Jewish community, told Swedish television that the art was "repulsive in the extreme", according to news website The Local."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-20622289 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-20622289)
So Micky have had the ashes around for 23 years before using them? Sorry I don't buy this for a second.
I don't know what to make out of this. Could be true, maybe not. Nevertheless it seems to me as a not too interesting art project. The starting point and point of view for the work seems a bit too easy, too obvious, with a blunt provocative edge to it. But the again ... here we are discussing it ... On and end point I have to give it to Carl (if true) that he is probably the first person on planet earth to make lye (water+ashes=a corrosive alkaline substance) from human ashes. That has to make up for something?
Either way the exhibit was closed down a few days ago - got a bit too much negative publicity, formal accusations of grave desecration (though it happened in another country, more than 20 years ago) etc... But the gallery will probably earn from it now.
I though it pretty funny about the recent shooting that many of american contrarians like bill mahr started yapping about gun control which is such a hot topic subject and immediatly has strong opposition but I dont remember reading anything about mental health care.
that doesnt seem to be a sexy issue even if these occurances clearly are manifestations of brain diseases. and I doubt anybody is strongly opposed to trying to help the sick.
what about this:
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4704738/Brainless-Corrie-star-Helen-Flanagan-poses-with-gun-to-her-headc-as-26-lie-dead-after-US-school-horror-in-Sandy-Hook.html
Quote from: KMusselman on December 19, 2012, 12:43:50 AM
Ok, while I'm not a fan of Ke$ha, this is ridiculous....
Totally off topic but I would hugely recommend a viewing of the video to that song with the volume turned off and some grim sounding instrumental PE or dark ambient playing instead - some great Satanic imagery in there. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOubzHCUt48
Tarantino VS John Ford
http://movieline.com/2012/12/26/quentin-tarantino-vs-john-ford-i-hate-him-django-unchained-birth-of-a-nation/
and Spike Lee Vs Tarantino
http://thegrio.com/2012/06/14/spike-lee-quentin-tarantino-jackie-brown-n-word-battle-revisted-15-years-later/
I caught QT on a PBS show last wk. He looks like an old man who needs to put his teeth in.
Quote from: HongKongGoolagong on December 27, 2012, 12:52:47 AM
Quote from: KMusselman on December 19, 2012, 12:43:50 AM
Ok, while I'm not a fan of Ke$ha, this is ridiculous....
Totally off topic but I would hugely recommend a viewing of the video to that song with the volume turned off and some grim sounding instrumental PE or dark ambient playing instead - some great Satanic imagery in there. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOubzHCUt48
Looked like a glossed-up version of Bewitched with some erotica thrown into it. Nice inverted crosses though, very pagan. But why was that video banned? Didn't see any guns or schoolkids in it.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on December 30, 2012, 09:55:49 PM
http://takimag.com/article/gunsville_usa_jim_goad#axzz2GYQktBF2
Good piece from Goad about school shootings & mentions the use of meds by the shooters which we've discussed before.
I don't get why he brought up that Holmes reportedly took "100mg" of Vicodin. Vicodin is a small amount of hydrocodone with a lot of Aspirin. I'm pretty sure that doesn't make any sense.
This must be the most ridiculous shit ever.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_uRIMUBnvw
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on January 03, 2013, 11:46:35 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/icelandic-girl-fights-her-own-name-074758814.html
Kind of weird to think a Gov. has to approve someone's name...
Every name needs to get approved in Finland. Meaning, basic names are approved by default. Special names, may be accepted or rejected. It's unfortunate that this policy has been sliding towards nonsense. Not long ago, names of Finnish people needed to be correct for nationality (finnish) and gender (girl or boy). Nowadays you can pretty much make up anything and it might pass. And they often do.
Quote from: tiny_tove on December 27, 2012, 04:42:40 PM
and Spike Lee Vs Tarantino
http://thegrio.com/2012/06/14/spike-lee-quentin-tarantino-jackie-brown-n-word-battle-revisted-15-years-later/
Surprisingly well-written and critical article. They both come out as the self-absorbed asswipes they probably are, + manages to highlight the actual dilemma. Applause for that, niggers.
My girlfriend told me about a seminar on Jewish culture & Holocaust memory she saw on TV, where some old woman actually claimed that since every German family bore a responsibility for the Holocaust back in the 40's, that meant that Jews (don't know if she only meant German Jews, those directly connected to the Shoah or literally ALL Jews) should receive financial reparations for the harm that were inflicted upon them. Sounded completely unreasonable, even more so than Afroamericans demanding money from former slave owners. Is that still a topic in the US, by the way?
On name-giving: there's been a few cases of parents trying to name their offspring completely idiotic things in Sweden. Metallica was not approved as a girl's name, neither was Brfxxccxxmnpcccclllmmnprxvclmnckssqlbb11116 (pronounced "Albin"). Seriously, they tried that - and now I realize they were from the same smalltown as I: http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lasse_Diding.
All this discussion of names reminds me of this story where parents in PA who named their kids Aryan Nation and Adolf Hitler lost custody of them.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2053799/Parents-Adolf-Hitler-Aryan-Nation-guilty-child-abuse--dont-kids-back.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2053799/Parents-Adolf-Hitler-Aryan-Nation-guilty-child-abuse--dont-kids-back.html)
Quote from: ARKHE on January 04, 2013, 07:32:37 PM
On name-giving: there's been a few cases of parents trying to name their offspring completely idiotic things in Sweden. Metallica was not approved as a girl's name, neither was Brfxxccxxmnpcccclllmmnprxvclmnckssqlbb11116 (pronounced "Albin"). Seriously, they tried that - and now I realize they were from the same smalltown as I: http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lasse_Diding.
I wanted to change my name to a random sequence of numbers and letters, but keep the pronunciation as "Jordan" when I was around 14-15.
Quote from: Jordan on January 05, 2013, 04:40:50 AM
Quote from: ARKHE on January 04, 2013, 07:32:37 PM
On name-giving: there's been a few cases of parents trying to name their offspring completely idiotic things in Sweden. Metallica was not approved as a girl's name, neither was Brfxxccxxmnpcccclllmmnprxvclmnckssqlbb11116 (pronounced "Albin"). Seriously, they tried that - and now I realize they were from the same smalltown as I: http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lasse_Diding.
I wanted to change my name to a random sequence of numbers and letters, but keep the pronunciation as "Jordan" when I was around 14-15.
As a legal adult I suppose it shouldn't be any problem to do whatever you want with your name. And you'd be entitled to a lot of indignation as everyone would judge you a moron or freak based on your name for the rest of your life.
Should also be added that the man, Diding, owns a small hotel in Varberg, where Lenin stayed a night travelling westwards whenever it was he left Soviet. He started a spa called the Lenin Bath, and wanted to change the name of an adjacent park (the biggest in that town) to Lenin Park. I respect that man and am proud to share at least geographical origin with him.
Luckily I wasn't an adult at the time I guess. On the changing name front, a guy on the street I grew up on named Dale had his last name changed to Dick so his mail would be addressed to Dick, Dale. At least here, mail doesn't seem to be addressed that way any more, so now he's just a big surf fan with the last name "Dick". No matter how much of a surf fan I was, I wouldn't really want the name Dick.
more Tarantino controversy
http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2013/jan/09/django-unchained-action-figures?CMP=twt_fd&CMP=SOCxx2I2
Quote from: tiny_tove on January 09, 2013, 02:22:03 PM
more Tarantino controversy
http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2013/jan/09/django-unchained-action-figures?CMP=twt_fd&CMP=SOCxx2I2
How the fuck are action figures of movie characters so offensive? I don't get it.
at some point,I dont know when this happened but slave was ditched and enslaved individuals or some bullshit was the substitute, so house slave moniker is offensive.
I think those dolls are for adults and I havent seen the movie yet but I heard its nigger this and nigger that so house slave doesnt seem THAT offensive.
"American Slavery Was Not A Sergio Leone Spaghetti Western. It Was A Holocaust. My Ancestors Are Slaves. Stolen From Africa. I Will Honor Them."
I don't think his "ancestors" were "stolen". They were sold to the Europeans from what I remember from World History.
Sold to Europeans by other acestors.
Tarantino IS offensive. Offensively bad.
Quote from: GEWALTMONOPOL on January 09, 2013, 08:30:06 PM
Tarantino IS offensive. Offensively bad.
Truth.
Still can't see why someone would be fine with the movie but outraged at the memorabilia.
"Holmies for James Holmes" facebook fan page: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Holmies-for-James-Holmes/337999472951364?fref=ts
Not exactly PC faggotry, but nevertheless, panties have definitely been caught in knots over this.
Trotskyist group exonerated official because it doesn't believe in 'bourgeois court system' to deliver justice
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/ranks-of-the-socialist-workers-party-are-split-over-handling-of-rape-allegation-8448429.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/jan/15/beyonce-photographed-underwear-feminism
LOOOL!
Yea, that was re-published on a regional news website down here. Feminism in the cosy countries is dead.
Re that article about the SWP - wasn't it the Swerps in London who where shopping rioters to the cops after the poll tax riot? Or was that another mob?
I don't remember what the SWP did with the rioters - no doubt disapproved of them because they weren't selling newspapers and holding SWP placards. I have no problem with many leftists - incidentally the latest issue of the excellent Datacide magazine come highly recommended - but the SWP are an unbelievable bunch of fuckwits who like to 'love-bomb' impressionable teenagers at university and then get them involved in what is basically a disturbed kind of cult rather than a political organisation.
Horrible, horrible people. With luck this rape stuff (which doesn't surprise me in the least) will finish them off.
Quote from: tiny_tove on January 17, 2013, 10:06:22 AM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/jan/15/beyonce-photographed-underwear-feminism
LOOOL!
"Esquire and GQ, and these covers are, to my eyes, becoming increasingly close to porn."
What!? If Cameron Diaz was getting her ass fucked on the cover of GQ I'd call it porn... other wise it's half naked nothing.
Quote from: HongKongGoolagong on January 17, 2013, 12:58:45 AM
Trotskyist group exonerated official because it doesn't believe in 'bourgeois court system' to deliver justice
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/ranks-of-the-socialist-workers-party-are-split-over-handling-of-rape-allegation-8448429.html
Dedicated to Comrade Delta: Rapist and revolutionary. And wannabe lad.
They also exonerated him because it was investigated by people who knew him. I'll take bourgeois justice over that any day.
It was the Militant Tendency lot who wanted poll tax rioters grassed up. I think Tommy Sheridan specifically, who was also embroiled in a sex scandal in recent years.
What IS it about these power crazed loons who reach the top positions of Trot sects?
I can't find Julie Burchill's article Transsexuals should cut it out that is causing some stir.
If anybody has it, please post it or send it to me, thanks.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2013/jan/17/transgender-protest-observer-offices-burchill
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/tobyyoung/100198116/here-is-julie-burchills-censored-observer-article/ (http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/tobyyoung/100198116/here-is-julie-burchills-censored-observer-article/)
I've been spending a couple of days looking at the controversy between feminists, particularly "radical" feminists, and transgenders. It's nothing more than a pure bitch fight. Seems the rad-fem mob don't want their "bodies colonised by men", or something. All it's done is shown the world what myopic power trippers some feminists are (and, for that matter, what whinging little bitches some trannies are).
This makes me think of how suspicious feminists were of gays in the 70's in Italy. I am quite sure there was something in Mario Mieli's writings, I have to check.
Damn... Julie Burchill has landed on the beach!!! what a picture lol
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on January 18, 2013, 11:33:10 AM
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/tobyyoung/100198116/here-is-julie-burchills-censored-observer-article/ (http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/tobyyoung/100198116/here-is-julie-burchills-censored-observer-article/)
I've been spending a couple of days looking at the controversy between feminists, particularly "radical" feminists, and transgenders. It's nothing more than a pure bitch fight. Seems the rad-fem mob don't want their "bodies colonised by men", or something. All it's done is shown the world what myopic power trippers some feminists are (and, for that matter, what whinging little bitches some trannies are).
Around ten years ago, Kathleen Hanna stopped Le Tigre shows and demanded that all drag queens in attendance leave the venue they wouldn't start playing again, but she doesn't have a problem with women playing at being stereotypical masculine men.
Quote from: HongKongGoolagong on January 17, 2013, 03:44:11 PM
I don't remember what the SWP did with the rioters - no doubt disapproved of them because they weren't selling newspapers and holding SWP placards. I have no problem with many leftists - incidentally the latest issue of the excellent Datacide magazine come highly recommended - but the SWP are an unbelievable bunch of fuckwits who like to 'love-bomb' impressionable teenagers at university and then get them involved in what is basically a disturbed kind of cult rather than a political organisation.
Horrible, horrible people. With luck this rape stuff (which doesn't surprise me in the least) will finish them off.
I once went went to a Socialist Worker affiliated bookstore a few times because they had the old stock of a defunct anarchist bookstore for sale there, and the owner kept telling me to bring all my friends and that we could use the internet for free and he'd make us coffee. He used to give me Spartacist League pamphlets that were designed to convert anarchist kids to Trotskyism and was generally an old creep.
He later moved his shop and rebranded it "Uprising Books" and put a bunch of anarchy signs and silly things around and all the anarchist kids started going there despite the fact that the stock they sold was a bunch of boring books on marxian economics and third-world (I think they call it the "global south" now) national liberation shit. Whenever I brought this up to anyone, I would be accused of all sorts of nasty things and people would try to shame me for questioning the old fucks anarchist credentials. After that, I was a persona non grata in Toronto anarchist circles, which suited me just fine because they were mostly too stupid to actually pick up a book and try to understand anything anyway.
Actually I guess there were a lot of reasons I was a persona non grata, but the main one was that I was not a communist.
Gotta love the left for their ability to fall out over bullshit with each other. There was probably never a need for the Freikorps to pound them into the ground like they did. Judean Peoples Front? We're the People's Front of Judea!!!
the best PC is a religious nutcase PC- http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2263905/Muslim-patrol-Hooded-vigilantes-walking-streets-London-telling-women-cover-taking-alcohol-hands-revellers-behave-Islamic-way.html
regarding the socialist worker party thing. sectarian groups works in the same way. no difference than scientology.
Could've been (might have been) posted in the porn thread but after all it fits better here... http://www.vice.com/en_se/read/why-is-the-guy-who-made-2-girls-one-cup-going-to-jail
welcome to the scum park
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/shortcuts/2012/dec/04/liberal-amsterdam-plans-scum-villages
Quote from: tiny_tove on January 23, 2013, 06:01:48 PM
welcome to the scum park
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/shortcuts/2012/dec/04/liberal-amsterdam-plans-scum-villages
Haha yes I saw that a while back. I've met and liked many Dutch people, no prejudice, but there is something in this story which could only have come from the confused Dutch approach to moral and ethical issues.
Although of course UK, USA and most other developed countries have these type of scheme run unofficially by housing charities and local government in the form of sink council estates, 'the projects' etc only the Netherlands could try to legally codify it.
Wolves in Oslo area.
Last days a debate in the public has raged weather or not they are to be put to death in a controlled action.
(http://gfx.nrk.no/X5RMpz-cY5SDESiPho8CXw6y8WuKWntio5oN_Tn2UCww.jpg)
http://nrk.no/nyheter/distrikt/ostlandssendingen/1.10884982 (http://nrk.no/nyheter/distrikt/ostlandssendingen/1.10884982)
Quote from: online prowler on January 24, 2013, 07:17:02 PM
Wolves in Oslo area.
Last days a debate in the public has raged weather or not they are to be put to death in a controlled action.
(http://gfx.nrk.no/X5RMpz-cY5SDESiPho8CXw6y8WuKWntio5oN_Tn2UCww.jpg)
http://nrk.no/nyheter/distrikt/ostlandssendingen/1.10884982 (http://nrk.no/nyheter/distrikt/ostlandssendingen/1.10884982)
Are the wolves near farmland or a city? How many wolves are estimated to be in the area- I'd assume they'd only allow a small # to be culled, right? Not a out n' out slaughter.
They've censored Fawlty Towers!
http://www.theage.com.au/entertainment/tv-and-radio/bbc-rewrites-tv-history-with-fawlty-towers-censorship-20130124-2d9ng.html (http://www.theage.com.au/entertainment/tv-and-radio/bbc-rewrites-tv-history-with-fawlty-towers-censorship-20130124-2d9ng.html)
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on January 25, 2013, 01:24:40 AM
They've censored Fawlty Towers!
http://www.theage.com.au/entertainment/tv-and-radio/bbc-rewrites-tv-history-with-fawlty-towers-censorship-20130124-2d9ng.html (http://www.theage.com.au/entertainment/tv-and-radio/bbc-rewrites-tv-history-with-fawlty-towers-censorship-20130124-2d9ng.html)
What's most ridiculous is that they compare the use of racial slurs against blacks & indians, to that against the Germans. Are Germans really upset by using the word "kraut"?
"Mary Jungenberg, 47, brought her children, 14-year-old Jamie and 17-year-old John, from the Chicago suburbs to watch the branding after the family of vegans had learned about the 269 movement on Facebook.
The performance reminded Mary Jungenberg of the strong maternal bond mother cows have for their calves, and how traumatic it is when they're separated, she said.
"I think that's where the just unbelievable waves of sadness hit me," she said. "It was really powerful. She's amazing, my god."
John Jungenberg agreed it was a very powerful and well-executed piece, and said he plans on getting a 269 tattoo when he turns 18 in December."
http://www.press-citizen.com/article/20130128/NEWS01/301280008/1079/ (http://www.press-citizen.com/article/20130128/NEWS01/301280008/1079/)
Quote from: ARKHE on January 25, 2013, 06:17:30 PM
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on January 25, 2013, 01:24:40 AM
They've censored Fawlty Towers!
http://www.theage.com.au/entertainment/tv-and-radio/bbc-rewrites-tv-history-with-fawlty-towers-censorship-20130124-2d9ng.html (http://www.theage.com.au/entertainment/tv-and-radio/bbc-rewrites-tv-history-with-fawlty-towers-censorship-20130124-2d9ng.html)
What's most ridiculous is that they compare the use of racial slurs against blacks & indians, to that against the Germans. Are Germans really upset by using the word "kraut"?
This is all kind of a non-story. It was a one-off censorship of the most serious potentially offensive racial epithets (not 'krauts') during one epidode in the whole two series just to get them shown during children's viewing hours for the first time. It has backfired for the BBC with all these PC GONE MAD!!! news stories. The show was re-released on DVD in 2012 entirely intact. And is still a very good and funny view of the most unfortunate aspects of the British character.
http://www.special-interests.net/forum/index.php?topic=3005.0 (http://www.special-interests.net/forum/index.php?topic=3005.0)
OH NO!! Please make it go away!!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2263127/Jumping-backwards-time-Nineties-One-hit-wonder-duo-Kris-Kross-reuniting-sensational-comeback.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2263127/Jumping-backwards-time-Nineties-One-hit-wonder-duo-Kris-Kross-reuniting-sensational-comeback.html)
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on January 24, 2013, 11:43:25 PM
Quote from: online prowler on January 24, 2013, 07:17:02 PM
Wolves in Oslo area.
Last days a debate in the public has raged weather or not they are to be put to death in a controlled action.
(http://gfx.nrk.no/X5RMpz-cY5SDESiPho8CXw6y8WuKWntio5oN_Tn2UCww.jpg)
http://nrk.no/nyheter/distrikt/ostlandssendingen/1.10884982 (http://nrk.no/nyheter/distrikt/ostlandssendingen/1.10884982)
Are the wolves near farmland or a city? How many wolves are estimated to be in the area- I'd assume they'd only allow a small # to be culled, right? Not a out n' out slaughter.
The two wolves, apparently hailing from Sweden are located in the woods - Østmarka - Oslo, and are probably crossing county boarders to-and-fro between Oslo and its neighbor Akershus county. There's been some talk in the public forums about having them put to death buy professional hunters, but so far (haven't bothered to follow this too close to be honest) the situation is at an halt. I will try to keep notice and report to the cadre any proceedings. Regards
http://www.svt.se/kultur/musik/a-2
Musician Anna von Hauswolff (yes, daughter of the jew-ash-painter above) gets slagged by the Swedish PC twitter mob for sporting a Burzum shirt.
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/c0.0.403.403/p403x403/387591_10151209528001050_121144981_n.jpg)
Quote from: ARKHE on January 31, 2013, 01:47:56 PM
http://www.svt.se/kultur/musik/a-2
Musician Anna von Hauswolff (yes, daughter of the jew-ash-painter above) gets slagged by the Swedish PC twitter mob for sporting a Burzum shirt.
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/c0.0.403.403/p403x403/387591_10151209528001050_121144981_n.jpg)
But I think that is part of the fun. I'm mean if any hipster (god bless them) can wear any t-shirt and nothing means anything ot anyone nomore at least they deserve a PC-bashing. Like people have always been getting. I mean it is a kind of weakness to be accepted by liberals.
Wolves.
Heard on the radio today that one of the wolves have been shot. Apparently the wildlife department as an extension of the Norwegian government had sanctioned an approval for termination. The decision was founded in a vote the government made earlier that Norway should not have a tribe of wolves. According to the radio a group of 70 - 100 professional hunters participated in the hunt, circling in the lone wolf a couple of days ago, before they got final clearance this afternoon - 4pm - to fire.
I have no wellgrounded opinion on th wolf issue only emotional ones so I try to stay a little carefull. But the feverish hatred agaonst the wolves considering the limited amount amount of damage they cause is quite baffling.
Quote from: Black_Angkar on February 02, 2013, 01:21:32 AM
I have no wellgrounded opinion on th wolf issue only emotional ones so I try to stay a little carefull. But the feverish hatred agaonst the wolves considering the limited amount amount of damage they cause is quite baffling.
True. I don't see myself as an advocate for issues concerning animals even though I sense to be an extension of the nature where I hail form in the north. What I find bizzaro is the need to control patterns of animals like this, and only weight their importance in cash value. It is quite sad a story the state of our country. May it all turn to waste and shit.
Justin Beiber, champion of feminism.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxqNbEzmNtk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxqNbEzmNtk)
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on February 18, 2013, 03:07:54 AM
Justin Beiber, champion of feminism.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxqNbEzmNtk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxqNbEzmNtk)
My god that was funny. Her use of ideology and rhetoric constrains any movement for oppositional thought. Straightjacket strategy.
I must admit, I wondered if she was in fact engaging in a simple philosophical exercise, but this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNxJitUpIbs) made me think yea, she actually does mean it. There's also a bunch of her writing online too, with stuff like, "(p)hilosophically, many of the aims and claims of feminist aesthetics are consistent with and indeed demonstrate the value of serious scholarship about popular music; as I argue in the third section of the paper, Kristeva's re-valuation of the feminine/feminized spectator provides a useful model for thinking about genres of music that are typically trivialized via feminization."
I have always been a fan of people who critique the 'canon' and point out how hierarchies and economics influence aesthetics, and that aesthetics and good taste don't exist in an eternal ivory tower vacuum. But then she defends instead one of the most 'patriarchal' form of mass-produced cultural trash around instead, on the grounds that "girls like it"?
I can only assume that she is indeed being slightly mischievous with this stuff, seeing what she can get away with within academia, and it's rooted in her own personal guilty pleasures. She's probably too interesting and strange for the PC faggotry thread.
Quote from: online prowler on February 02, 2013, 02:54:46 AM
Quote from: Black_Angkar on February 02, 2013, 01:21:32 AM
I have no wellgrounded opinion on th wolf issue only emotional ones so I try to stay a little carefull. But the feverish hatred agaonst the wolves considering the limited amount amount of damage they cause is quite baffling.
True. I don't see myself as an advocate for issues concerning animals even though I sense to be an extension of the nature where I hail form in the north. What I find bizzaro is the need to control patterns of animals like this, and only weight their importance in cash value. It is quite sad a story the state of our country. May it all turn to waste and shit.
I loved it when the chairman of hunter organization a couple of years ago made a big stink about the supposed fact that wolves kill the hunters dogs and that "protective hunting" of wolves was need to get rid of the "problem". One very sane person pointed out that more dogs are killed by their owner each year than by wolves and with that reasoning he was calling for "protective hunting" of hunters.
http://innerdepravity.com/ (http://innerdepravity.com/)
Following an anonymous complaint from Germany, the Sûreté du Quebec begins an investigation about suspicious images that were exposed online by a local website, after an alert from INTERPOL.
<...>
That night, while he is behind bars, Rémy learns that he is being charged with Moral Corruption through propagation of obscene material.
<...>
http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/Remy+Couture+found+guilty+corrupting+morals/7737731/story.html (http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/Remy+Couture+found+guilty+corrupting+morals/7737731/story.html)
A Quebec special effects artist charged with corrupting morals has been found not guilty in a case that tested the boundaries of creative expression and Canadian obscenity laws.
Don't know if this was mentioned here or not, but it's not the first time Canadian authorities are against gore and sfx. If I remember correctly, Voegel was also arrested on Canadian border while bringing dvds of August Underground to some movie festival or so. And Inner Depravity 1 and 2 by Remy Couture are nice little gory movies.
Quote from: Levas on February 21, 2013, 04:21:35 PM
http://innerdepravity.com/ (http://innerdepravity.com/)
Following an anonymous complaint from Germany, the Sûreté du Quebec begins an investigation about suspicious images that were exposed online by a local website, after an alert from INTERPOL.
<...>
That night, while he is behind bars, Rémy learns that he is being charged with Moral Corruption through propagation of obscene material.
<...>
http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/Remy+Couture+found+guilty+corrupting+morals/7737731/story.html (http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/Remy+Couture+found+guilty+corrupting+morals/7737731/story.html)
A Quebec special effects artist charged with corrupting morals has been found not guilty in a case that tested the boundaries of creative expression and Canadian obscenity laws.
Don't know if this was mentioned here or not, but it's not the first time Canadian authorities are against gore and sfx. If I remember correctly, Voegel was also arrested on Canadian border while bringing dvds of August Underground to some movie festival or so. And Inner Depravity 1 and 2 by Remy Couture are nice little gory movies.
David Cronenberg talks in some of his interviews about how hard it was to get the government "okay" to release his movies because of their violent/sexual/perverse content, especially early on.
http://stream.aljazeera.com/story/201302200020-0022558 (http://stream.aljazeera.com/story/201302200020-0022558)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1o68h4Usqs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1o68h4Usqs)
I love how no body can just come out and say nigger
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h--HR7PWfp0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h--HR7PWfp0)
As we know, PC faggotry comes in all the wonderful colours of the rainbow, and here's another example of that -
http://www.freep.com/article/20130218/NEWS06/130218038/Man-requests-No-African-American-nurse-care-for-baby-nurse-sues-hospital (http://www.freep.com/article/20130218/NEWS06/130218038/Man-requests-No-African-American-nurse-care-for-baby-nurse-sues-hospital)
Some delicate little white supremacist flower doesn't want his pure blooded offspring contaminated by people doing their job. PC faggot factor ten.
well, it's hard to say what exactly qualifies as "PC". Like many messages in topic, we're just dealing situations of butthurt of some sort, but not necessarily "PC".
Did I already comment it? I thought I may have, but perhaps the more suitable topic would be "This week butthurt"
according to "urban dictionary": Butthurt
QuoteAn inappropriately strong negative emotional response from a perceived personal insult. Characterized by strong feelings of shame. Frequently associated with a cessation of communication and overt hostility towards the "aggressor."
And what is "PC" by its standard definition?
QuotePolitical correctness (adjectivally, politically correct; both forms commonly abbreviated to PC) is a term which denotes language, ideas, policies, and behavior seen as seeking to minimize social and institutional offense in occupational, gender, racial, cultural, sexual orientation, certain other religions, beliefs or ideologies, disability, and age-related contexts, and, as purported by the term, doing so to an excessive extent
White Supremacist not wanting negro to touch baby isn't "PC", but exactly opposite. Actions of hospital was everything else but "PC". And whether the the nurses reaction could be stretched to be "PC" in any way, it highly questionable. It's not issue of methods of language seeking to minimize social / institutional offense. But just the racial butthurt from all sides.
Like the case of Burzum shirt wearing indie singer. It's just people showing inappropriately strong negative emotional response from a perceived personal insult. I.e. someone being so brute they wear "nazi shirt" and it personally offends viewer.
"Characterized by strong feelings of shame. "
(white guilt for example, being overtly ashamed for things that no black men would be shamed of)
"Frequently associated with a cessation of communication and overt hostility towards the "aggressor.""
a'la I will never listen this nazi supporting bitch. Lets flood the facebook with remarks and insults of her and her burzum shirt.
Hardly any "PC" in cases like this, although they probably are the supporters of such idea. Meaning, supporters of language seeking to minimize social / institutional offense. That there no more is words that in use create offenses - and in extreme cases perhaps even "hierarchies" or "inequalities".
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on February 24, 2013, 05:14:45 PM
Like the case of Burzum shirt wearing indie singer. It's just people showing inappropriately strong negative emotional response from a perceived personal insult. I.e. someone being so brute they wear "nazi shirt" and it personally offends viewer.
"Characterized by strong feelings of shame. "
(white guilt for example, being overtly ashamed for things that no black men would be shamed of)
"Frequently associated with a cessation of communication and overt hostility towards the "aggressor.""
a'la I will never listen this nazi supporting bitch. Lets flood the facebook with remarks and insults of her and her burzum shirt.
Hardly any "PC" in cases like this, although they probably are the supporters of such idea. Meaning, supporters of language seeking to minimize social / institutional offense. That there no more is words that in use create offenses - and in extreme cases perhaps even "hierarchies" or "inequalities".
Mikko/People of Sweden. I faintly remember some years ago a robbery or something like that involving neo-nazis is Sweden. Apparently one of the hard core guys involved was a a black guy/immigrant. Anyone - refresh my memory?
Quote from: online prowler on February 25, 2013, 04:48:11 PM
Mikko/People of Sweden. I faintly remember some years ago a robbery or something like that involving neo-nazis is Sweden. Apparently one of the hard core guys involved was a a black guy/immigrant. Anyone - refresh my memory?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackie_Arkl%C3%B6v
http://www.salon.com/2013/03/07/iconic_seattle_ceramicist_exposed_as_holocaust_denier_partner/
Quote[...]the 65-year-old hippie-turned-artist is at the center of a growing controversy following a published report detailing evidence — including his own words — that suggests he is a white nationalist who believes the Holocaust is a myth.
QuoteIn one white nationalist podcast, Krafft says Christianity is being replaced "by this new secular religion of the sacrifice of 6 million Jews. And the museums, memorials, monuments, study centers, Holocaust chairs at the universities — it's all part of the promotion of a new kind of, like I said, civil religion maybe. ... We're the heretics in a new religion that's being promoted and built up and being embraced by governments throughout the United States and Europe."
Quote from: Vigilante Ecstasy on February 26, 2013, 02:00:08 AM
Quote from: online prowler on February 25, 2013, 04:48:11 PM
Mikko/People of Sweden. I faintly remember some years ago a robbery or something like that involving neo-nazis is Sweden. Apparently one of the hard core guys involved was a a black guy/immigrant. Anyone - refresh my memory?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackie_Arkl%C3%B6v
Vigilante Ecstasy.
AIT, thanx! Cozy venture indeed.
here's where we're going little steps one by one.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2283777/Boy-9-hanged-bullied-white.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2283777/Boy-9-hanged-bullied-white.html)
They said Aaron was threatened with a plastic knife by one Asian pupil, who warned him: 'Next time it will be a real one.' Asian = muslim
He was also allegedly told by another pupil that 'all the white people should be dead'
The new fashion in power electronics?
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007699BEO/ref=tsm_1_fb_lk (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007699BEO/ref=tsm_1_fb_lk)
http://thisisthinprivilege.tumblr.com/
equalled in faggotry by
http://stop-titp.tumblr.com/
I found this witty and amusing:
Tackling Asian Privilege (http://takimag.com/article/tackling_asian_privilege_gavin_mcinnes/print)
both witty and amusing. It's labeled "zizek on racism", but I think it should be more "zizek on political correctness".
"What a nice food you have, what a nice culture you have... I'm not interested! I want dirty jokes!!"
3 minutes. Slovenian philosopher known from some Laibach documents as well..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4YJAs6Cv9I
Quote from: Levas on March 11, 2013, 10:05:49 AM
here's where we're going little steps one by one.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2283777/Boy-9-hanged-bullied-white.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2283777/Boy-9-hanged-bullied-white.html)
They said Aaron was threatened with a plastic knife by one Asian pupil, who warned him: 'Next time it will be a real one.' Asian = muslim
He was also allegedly told by another pupil that 'all the white people should be dead'
I only heard about this today, I guess although the original news broke late Feb(?) it has taken a week or two for the "cause" to be revealed, but there is not a single search result about it on the BBC website.
A quick google search for "Aaron Dugmore BBC" reveals that other people have noticed this also. Granted, a lot of them seem to be BNP websites and associated dross but it's an interesting observation as ordinarily there would be no major news corp that would pass up covering this kind of announcement.
Of course, I'm not suggesting the BBC is under any kind of "pressure" to keep a lid on coverage....... but it is curious.
When a fantasy crime become a reality? http://www.newstatesman.com/nelson-jones/2013/03/gilberto-valle-can-you-be-tried-having-fantasies-about-eating-your-wife
QuoteGilberto Valle has never actually eaten anyone, but he'll always be known as the Cannibal Cop. On trial in New York, he stands charged with what prosecutors describe as "a heinous plot to kidnap, rape, murder and cannibalize a number of very real women", including his own wife, who found the incriminating evidence on their shared computer. But while the women were real, did the plot exist outside his own head? His defence is that he was merely a fantasist who never intended to go through with any of it. The case turns on whether or not he crossed an invisible line separating fantasy from reality.
http://newsone.com/2282554/chris-christie-boy/ (http://newsone.com/2282554/chris-christie-boy/)
http://www.theage.com.au/sport/soccer/greek-soccer-player-banned-over-nazi-salute-20130318-2g9l0.html (http://www.theage.com.au/sport/soccer/greek-soccer-player-banned-over-nazi-salute-20130318-2g9l0.html)
This was the bit I liked -
Quote"...injures the deeply pacifist and human character of the game"
http://vimeo.com/45539176 (http://vimeo.com/45539176)
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on March 18, 2013, 02:32:19 AM
http://www.theage.com.au/sport/soccer/greek-soccer-player-banned-over-nazi-salute-20130318-2g9l0.html (http://www.theage.com.au/sport/soccer/greek-soccer-player-banned-over-nazi-salute-20130318-2g9l0.html)
This was the bit I liked -
Quote"...injures the deeply pacifist and human character of the game"
Your quote misses the best part.... Nazi bestiality!
CYPRUS nearly bankrupt
http://www.cyprus-mail.com/ (http://www.cyprus-mail.com/)
Quote from: martialgodmask on March 18, 2013, 02:51:13 PM
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on March 18, 2013, 02:32:19 AM
http://www.theage.com.au/sport/soccer/greek-soccer-player-banned-over-nazi-salute-20130318-2g9l0.html (http://www.theage.com.au/sport/soccer/greek-soccer-player-banned-over-nazi-salute-20130318-2g9l0.html)
This was the bit I liked -
Quote"...injures the deeply pacifist and human character of the game"
Your quote misses the best part.... Nazi bestiality!
Yes. But I thought it was amusing that people were defending soccer/football (depending on what part of the world you're in) as "pacifist and human". Like all those ultras and riots don't exist. Shit, one little up-raised hand compared to all that...
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on March 19, 2013, 01:08:50 AM
Quote from: martialgodmask on March 18, 2013, 02:51:13 PM
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on March 18, 2013, 02:32:19 AM
http://www.theage.com.au/sport/soccer/greek-soccer-player-banned-over-nazi-salute-20130318-2g9l0.html (http://www.theage.com.au/sport/soccer/greek-soccer-player-banned-over-nazi-salute-20130318-2g9l0.html)
This was the bit I liked -
Quote"...injures the deeply pacifist and human character of the game"
Your quote misses the best part.... Nazi bestiality!
Yes. But I thought it was amusing that people were defending soccer/football (depending on what part of the world you're in) as "pacifist and human". Like all those ultras and riots don't exist. Shit, one little up-raised hand compared to all that...
Yeh, you wonder either who they're trying to convince or who exactly does their research for them.
My sister sent me this link :
Heavy Metal Church
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVdGR3PtVT8&NR=1&feature=fvwp (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVdGR3PtVT8&NR=1&feature=fvwp)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/mar/20/naked-female-warrior-femen-topless-protesters
EMBALSAMO-PAGKATAY NG KATAWAN NG TAO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zilpCNoCd4k (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zilpCNoCd4k)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2294247/They-look-like-real-women-Images-fuller-figured-mannequins-lingerie-viral-ladies-praise-natural-proportions.html
QuoteThe photo was posted on Facebook page Women's Rights News earlier this week with the caption: 'Store mannequins in Sweden. They look like real women. The US should invest in some of these'
US should get A LITTLE fuller-figured mannequins if you ask me! :D
http://williambennett.blogspot.co.uk/2013/03/statement.html (http://williambennett.blogspot.co.uk/2013/03/statement.html)
I'm not Bennett fan but I'm feeling his palpable sense of indignation with this. To think he feels he has to list his likes and dislikes just to placate idiots who aren't going to give a shit anyway. Ridiculous.
Another high-cost propaganda film from North-Korea.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9VQ7NjGeIRw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9VQ7NjGeIRw)
http://www.dailydot.com/news/adria-richards-fired-sendgrid-violent-backlash/
This one kind of works both ways, so I guess "This week in PC bi/trans-sexuality"would be a better category.
Is this politically correct? Hard to know where this insane news story fits into the spectrum of attempted state control of individual's behaviour. The allegations surround the decision to give sterilised blade kits to a pupil at the school, in order to allow them to self-harm under specific and controlled conditions.
http://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/s/2131399_supervised_selfharm_was_allowed_at_special_school
Quote from: HongKongGoolagong on March 26, 2013, 11:55:12 PM
Is this politically correct? Hard to know where this insane news story fits into the spectrum of attempted state control of individual's behaviour. The allegations surround the decision to give sterilised blade kits to a pupil at the school, in order to allow them to self-harm under specific and controlled conditions.
http://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/s/2131399_supervised_selfharm_was_allowed_at_special_school
Ha! I guess their intentions were good or something, but that's just way over the top.
I guess that's better than forcing them on to pills though.
Do schools anywhere give out sterile needles?
Quote from: HongKongGoolagong on March 26, 2013, 11:55:12 PM
Is this politically correct? Hard to know where this insane news story fits into the spectrum of attempted state control of individual's behaviour. The allegations surround the decision to give sterilised blade kits to a pupil at the school, in order to allow them to self-harm under specific and controlled conditions.
http://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/s/2131399_supervised_selfharm_was_allowed_at_special_school
lol this is damage reduction lead to the most extreme consequence!
I can't wait the moment we will have "ethical suicide"
PC faggotry (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57576418/support-for-same-sex-marriage-gets-social-media-boost)
QuoteSupporters of same-sex marriage are not only taking to the streets to voice their opinion, but also online -- as a viral movement started by the organization Human Rights Campaign has spread rapidly on Facebook and Twitter.
Quote from: tiny_tove on March 27, 2013, 03:33:38 PM
I can't wait the moment we will have "ethical suicide"
Some kind of medical/ethical board in Canada tabled some recommendations on assisted suicide that included depression/psychological pain as an inclusion criteria for consideration in doling out doctor assisted death, so in Canada at least, perhaps something like that might be coming for depressed teens! Doubt it though, but it would be interesting if the government put the recommendations into action!
The best part of that story was the line at the end:
Quote"I'd be horrified if a school was trying to manage such a scheme, but open-minded to an appropriate residential facility implementing it as one of many care pathways."
Therapy through (self-inflicted) violence!
The new Europe?
Political motived violence at an increase, or mere outbursts between gangs? I've been half expecting this for some time now. Time will tell if we are stepping back to a political reality experienced in the 70s during Baader-Meinhof plus.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-43179/Woman-carrying-bomb-killed-Athens-blast.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-43179/Woman-carrying-bomb-killed-Athens-blast.html)
http://rt.com/news/bomb-central-athens-acropolis-949/ (http://rt.com/news/bomb-central-athens-acropolis-949/)
Tasty. I'm so bored of the new world.
Quote from: online prowler on March 28, 2013, 02:26:19 AM
The new Europe?
Political motived violence at an increase, or mere outbursts between gangs? I've been half expecting this for some time now. Time will tell if we are stepping back to a political reality experienced in the 70s during Baader-Meinhof plus.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-43179/Woman-carrying-bomb-killed-Athens-blast.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-43179/Woman-carrying-bomb-killed-Athens-blast.html)
http://rt.com/news/bomb-central-athens-acropolis-949/ (http://rt.com/news/bomb-central-athens-acropolis-949/)
which terrorist groups are active in Greece at the moment? I mean REAL terrorism, not golden dawn and anarchists.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2013/apr/02/brad-pitt-zombie-movie-re-edited-chinese?CMP=twt_gu
This is so dumb!
Quote from: tiny_tove on March 29, 2013, 12:24:57 PM
Quote from: online prowler on March 28, 2013, 02:26:19 AM
The new Europe?
Political motived violence at an increase, or mere outbursts between gangs? I've been half expecting this for some time now. Time will tell if we are stepping back to a political reality experienced in the 70s during Baader-Meinhof plus.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-43179/Woman-carrying-bomb-killed-Athens-blast.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-43179/Woman-carrying-bomb-killed-Athens-blast.html)
http://rt.com/news/bomb-central-athens-acropolis-949/ (http://rt.com/news/bomb-central-athens-acropolis-949/)
which terrorist groups are active in Greece at the moment? I mean REAL terrorism, not golden dawn and anarchists.
That is an interesting thought. It seems like small scale wannabe terror cells have been around Athens for ages but will they ever burst out and make a splash? I guess they need some funding and guidance from Gladio.
http://abcnews.go.com/ABC_Univision/ABC_Univision/afro-wigs-spark-controversy-brazil/story?id=18792493#.UVv9-FfmCco
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/apr/03/manchester-police-goths-punks-hate-crime
this reminds me when in some place in south/center america metalheads were attacking (and killing) emos.
Quote from: re:evolution on April 04, 2013, 12:07:53 AM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/apr/03/manchester-police-goths-punks-hate-crime
Was this kind of old news? Already years ago some goth stomped to death by black thugs.
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on April 04, 2013, 09:05:59 AM
Quote from: re:evolution on April 04, 2013, 12:07:53 AM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/apr/03/manchester-police-goths-punks-hate-crime
Was this kind of old news? Already years ago some goth stomped to death by black thugs.
White kids not black kids did the stomping (don't think I've ever seen a black person in Bacup), and it was based around subculture rivalries, the Goth appearance of her and her boyfriend and I guess an undercurrent of class hatred - Goths being perceived as middle-class, chavs being underclass. A really horrible depressing case. The kids who did it were like feral street rats. Too close to home for me to laugh at the PC Manchester police statement.
I think I wrote something about that case in the true crime forum months back after seeing a docu about it. She was stomped to death, right?
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on April 04, 2013, 09:16:39 PM
I think I wrote something about that case in the true crime forum months back after seeing a docu about it. She was stomped to death, right?
Essentially yes, he ended up in a coma but she died of her injuries before he came round... I think?
As a teeneager I took some beatings for dressing in black and wearing make up. Some of my friends took PROPER beatings for it. Sometimes we'd gang up on our tormentors and hit back. As I got older I learned to handle myself and it became less of a problem. If problem is the right word. The goth/synth/new romantic etc subculture generated a lot of hatred from those on the outside and though unpleasant at times it was also part of the thrill. For as faggy that me and my friends looked we literally took the violence on the chin. We'd made a choice and stuck by it even when under threat of bodily harm. As an old git I can look back and say it was character building. Rebranding it as a hate crime won't bring anything useful. Only more weak crybabies without the guts to stand their ground and who'll expect "daddy" to protect them on every difficult occasion in life. It's part of life. Fucking toughen up!
On a different note, we have this interview in Vice by a member of the Illuminati.
http://www.vice.com/read/swedish-feminists-are-so-bored-theyre-telling-men-how-to-sit-on-the-bus
Quote from: GEWALTMONOPOL on April 04, 2013, 10:48:33 PM
As a teeneager I took some beatings for dressing in black and wearing make up. Some of my friends took PROPER beatings for it. Sometimes we'd gang up on our tormentors and hit back. As I got older I learned to handle myself and it became less of a problem. If problem is the right word. The goth/synth/new romantic etc subculture generated a lot of hatred from those on the outside and though unpleasant at times it was also part of the thrill. For as faggy that me and my friends looked we literally took the violence on the chin. We'd made a choice and stuck by it even when under threat of bodily harm. As an old git I can look back and say it was character building. Rebranding it as a hate crime won't bring anything useful. Only more weak crybabies without the guts to stand their ground and who'll expect "daddy" to protect them on every difficult occasion in life. It's part of life. Fucking toughen up!
Well, since this case was about a twenty year old goth girl I don't think there is much to toughen up. How ever tough she would have been, a bunch of chavs would still had stomped her to death. Labeling it as a hate crime would at the best bring longer convictions, but who knows. Of course it doesn't change anything happening in the streets.
http://www.vice.com/read/swedish-feminists-are-so-bored-theyre-telling-men-how-to-sit-on-the-bus
You lazy-ass Swedes need to sit up straight so a Lady can have a seat! Were you guys born in a fucking barn or something?!? Jeez. Air out your stinking, nasty balls in the privacy of your home, not in public.
In Texas, where I assume traditional gender roles and therefore chivalry still exists, that is a perfecty reasonable request. In Sweden the average male is so fatigued by equality and feminism that he can't even sit up straight. Cut a tired brother some slack, will ya?
I've noticed how on public transport everyone wants every seat around them for themselves. Blokes, sheilas, old ladies putting their bags on the seats next to them, everyone. I get on the train and look around for a seat and see loads of empty seats, but I can't help notice the looks of disdain on people sitting next to them. The best fun is to find the most macho, agro looking bloke and sit right next to him. They tend to ball up pretty quick.
I grew up in a remote area in Northern Canada, so being a punk was a pretty outrageous thing to most people, as almost everyone grew up on country & western and hockey and stuff. There was like 50 or so weirdos, tops in a town of around 40,000, which was the biggest town in miles around. People in all the little adjacent places would talk about Timmins as a "big city", so I guess it could have been worse. I got my ass kicked at like 13 by 30 year old skids. I got my ass kicked constantly, but I thought it was kind of fun.
Nowadays, I guess because of the internet or something, there's lots of "emo" and whatever kind of kids there, and they seem to have no problem with it.
On the bus - Here as well, everyone puts their bags on the seats beside them, even on crowded bus. I'm usually pretty good for that, and always offer my seat to old people, but when middle aged women tell me I should get up and give them my seat, I usually say "I'm sorry, I didn't realize that your gender was a disability" and they don't want it anymore when I vacate it for them.That hasn't happened often, but 2-3 times at least.
Here it's a very serious offence to have your bag or what ever on the next seat. Absolutely no one does it. There's a few rules about public places in Helsinki and one is that and other is that you always stand on the right side of the escalator so busy people can run through them.
Quote from: NEHPF on April 05, 2013, 01:52:09 AM
other is that you always stand on the right side of the escalator so busy people can run through them.
FUCK. Nobody does that in the city I live in and it drives me crazy. Everyone stand beside each other and talks. It's a fucking escalator, not an elevator. When I used to live in Toronto, the escalators in the subway stations had signs saying "stand left, walk right" and almost everybody followed that and things worked perfectly. People here don't understand why I get mad at that.
As an alternative teenager in the mid/late 80's you could get shit from almost anybody for the way you looked, even if you were not THAT weird. never had too long hair, nor mowhak... I had spikes for something like two days, but both during the leather/denim period and the boots/braces times you had either what you could call jocks or white trash harrassing you, this until "alternative" became the norm.
Nothing THAT serious happened to me (I was almost invisible also due to size back then), but other people was hassled by so called paninari, members of an annoying fashion that turned many kids into Americans wanna-bees, completely clueless about life and bathing in what was called Reganian edhonism.
Some original paninaris then turned to skinheads, other to yuppies (that were seen as the adult brothers).
Most of them were not violent and just spent time dancing to 80s crappy British pop-music (I fucking can't stand that garbage due to that period apart from some gay oriented stuff), buying shitload of clothes to always look trendy and chasing girls (who can blame them on this?).
These people made other youth groups uncool and some of them turned violent and were hassling other kids.
There were massive retaliation on them, in Milan (where the whole thing begun) there were huge fights with metalheads and punks, there were no-go area for this and that.
I remember some of them hunting for goths (a friend of mine got assaulted by 4 of these with no reason).
I think it has a lot to do with jock mentality.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7l1gkwREiM
And now for something completely different.
I somehow find hilarious Bill Brag's statement "you fascists are going to loose". LOL!
I was expecting something more elaborated.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2013/apr/03/paolo-di-canio-ideology-fascism
Quote from: HongKongGoolagong on April 04, 2013, 06:15:11 PM
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on April 04, 2013, 09:05:59 AM
Quote from: re:evolution on April 04, 2013, 12:07:53 AM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/apr/03/manchester-police-goths-punks-hate-crime
Was this kind of old news? Already years ago some goth stomped to death by black thugs.
White kids not black kids did the stomping (don't think I've ever seen a black person in Bacup), and it was based around subculture rivalries, the Goth appearance of her and her boyfriend and I guess an undercurrent of class hatred - Goths being perceived as middle-class, chavs being underclass. A really horrible depressing case. The kids who did it were like feral street rats. Too close to home for me to laugh at the PC Manchester police statement.
Probably confused it with other case talked when driving around certain area in London. Probably was talk of those blocks having constant violent clash of black kids, and at same time talking of this incident.
Anyways, there was month ago or something case in Oulu city, where guys came from some gay event in bar, and dressed as women. One guy was member of local city politics and his boyfriend was dressed as woman. Some rednecks started to make insults, and eventually thing progressed to good old drunk rednecks slapping them a bit.
So, city of Oulu issues public announcement that it rejects all the violence and that city is openminded and free. Yeah, well, that's fine with me. But what about Oulu having like... is it several dozens of violent incidents
per weekend. And it's business as usual. One guy, dressed as woman, gets slapped after some sort of yelling-contest at street and suddenly it's like end of the world and city must start issuing statements.
Being "underground guy", is pretty much a choice. When I see the contemporary mall-goths, with their zipper trousers and eye-liner anime-haircuts, I feel like they need some fatherly slap, hahah... It's not like this would be violent extermination, but just...
come on losers. If you look like an idiot, then you get what's coming.
That said, there's this great Finnish guy (who some may remember for licking blood of Michael Nine from venue floors after he was cutting himself) who had this habit of dressing as woman, so he can provoke fights and then CRUSH the guys face who had no clue there was no sissy boy is drag, but pure muscle - trained ready for combat. This is kind of thing that also "jocks" need to remember. Not every odd locking guy is nerd. It's kind of gamble, how rude you should be towards people you don't know. Many times: not rude at all.
totally agree from first word to the last.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2304793/Two-babies-stricken-HERPES-ritual-oral-blood-sucking-circumcision-New-York-City.html?ito=feeds-newsxml
Quote from: nyarluna on April 07, 2013, 09:33:17 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2304793/Two-babies-stricken-HERPES-ritual-oral-blood-sucking-circumcision-New-York-City.html?ito=feeds-newsxml
This is more "Orthodox Jewish Faggotry", though, isn't it? That's okay though, I think I posted an article about this before here, or someone else did and I commented.
I had considered posting the link in the "True Crime" section.
'Sex trafficking' hysteria, career-building and human exploitation at its worst over young women who desperately wanted to get away from their families:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/07/raven-cassidy-furlong-missing-found-la_n_3033281.html
http://nwcave.org/pressroom/ravenfurlong.html
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on April 05, 2013, 12:24:54 AM
http://www.vice.com/read/swedish-feminists-are-so-bored-theyre-telling-men-how-to-sit-on-the-bus
Just read this now. The woman doesn't realize that lazily sitting men are also taking the places of other men?! Or do lazily sitting men sit straight for other men, but not for women?! I don't think so! (Would be the ultimate bro-love though, haha!)
She clearly should get her head out of her ass. (Or more probably: out of her girlfriends cunt.)
Not sure we already posted this:
http://nomorepage3.org/
sad
I suggest they get Femen (http://femen.org/en) involved.
And perhaps it is most of all sad, to think that worst thing in SUN would be page 3? That removing that, would somehow improve that newspaper?
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on April 10, 2013, 05:14:37 PM
And perhaps it is most of all sad, to think that worst thing in SUN would be page 3? That removing that, would somehow improve that newspaper?
Indeed. "Because boobs aren't news", but apparently sports, celebrity gossip and all the other tropes of tabloid papers ARE news.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/apr/11/emo-hate-crime-arrests-manchester
Quote from: yosef666 on April 11, 2013, 12:17:22 AM
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on April 10, 2013, 05:14:37 PM
And perhaps it is most of all sad, to think that worst thing in SUN would be page 3? That removing that, would somehow improve that newspaper?
Indeed. "Because boobs aren't news", but apparently sports, celebrity gossip and all the other tropes of tabloid papers ARE news.
I don't really get this modern usage of "trope". Really the word means "figurative use of language" but people seem to use it to mean convention, or something. I read a paper once that tracked the emergence of the new use on the internet, but really it means, for example, metaphor, or simile, or synecdoche, or irony, etc.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/the-womens-blog-with-jane-martinson/2013/apr/16/everyday-sexism-project-shouting-back?CMP=twt_gu
(Lame) Italian rapper blacklisted (because he *describes* a crime scene in a song): rough Google translation:
http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fassante.blogautore.repubblica.it%2F2013%2F04%2Ffibra-le-donne-e-il-primo-maggio%2F%3Fref%3DHREC1-10&act=url
o boy... hadnt checked here for ages, then i look around a few pages and find this swedish kollektivtraffik blog. made my day!! thanks for cheerin me up. wow, wtf.... my face hurts from laughter!!
yep
consider that he is some sort of pop guy with street credibility without posing as gansta.
he does nothing politically uncorrect like the "badguys" (and wannabees) who golorify sex and coke, he just describes stuff, has some beefs, etc.
never liked his stuff but not a moron, have no idea why they are making such a fuss...
may day concert is a nightmare anyway, conformism, good-doers, etc, ecc... there are some great performances of course, but it completely lost the feeling of the early days when it was something done by trade unionists for the workers...
"Gay" author Breat Eston Ellis banned from major gay event for unpc comments http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2013/apr/22/easton-ellis-tweets-gay-media-awards?CMP=twt_gu
LOL http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/10266529.Anti_racism_singer_in_court_over_racist_remarks/
Abused and exploited Asian au-pairs in Norway.
http://www.nrk.no/fordypning/sju-au-pair-historier-1.10992858 (http://www.nrk.no/fordypning/sju-au-pair-historier-1.10992858)
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on April 23, 2013, 08:53:05 PM
Wasn't sure where to put this. It's just funny:
http://www.upi.com/Odd_News/2013/04/22/Iceland-students-create-Incest-Spoiler-Android-app/UPI-52761366654236/
I thought fucking your cousin was okay, as long as she's hot right?
:p
this article doesn't really have a home but...
conjoined twins are people too!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-22181528 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-22181528)
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- "It is spring in El Corte Ingles" -
Dos trabajadores fallecidos en el derrumbe una fábrica de Bangladesh en la que cosían prendas para El Corte Inglés, Primark y Mango (entre otras) en condiciones infrahumanas y de total explotación.
Translator: Two workers died in a factory collapse in Bangladesh who sewed clothes for El Corte Ingles, Primark and Mango (among others) in all human conditions and exploitation.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-22343620 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-22343620)
We Norwegians love to eat whale.
But we also enjoy blowing them up.
http://nrk.no/nyheter/distrikt/troms_og_finnmark/1.11005879 (http://nrk.no/nyheter/distrikt/troms_og_finnmark/1.11005879)
I think 300-400 people died in that Factory collapse, not 2
My guess is that statement refers to the photo, not the overall situation.
People here will continue to ignore things like this for the convenience of their clothes buying no matter how many people die or are continually revealed to work in completely absurd conditions.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on April 30, 2013, 07:51:31 PM
What about the Bangladesh government? Is it not their responsibility to pass regulations to ensure buildings are up to code & workers are in working in safe conditions?
What the hell is the story on the whale?!? I thought I was going to see an explosion!
Apologies for the cock tease Bitewerks. No video available. Though the reading (at least via ggl translator) will prove entertainment. The whale, 18 meter long, was towed out to the great ocean, then blown to smithereens. If you check the bottom pix you can see the stomach (internal) sticking out of its mouth,probably overblown with gas. Apparently it was punctuated when the whale was washed ashore. The top pix seems to be from the towing towards the sea. This reminds me.. when I was a kid a huge whale floated up on a neighbor beach. Think this was before my schoolyears. Anyway.. remember we used to bike out there - this was the summer - and climb on top of it so e could run on it and jump like on trampolines.
Re. Bangladesh. I presume the government in Bangladesh as other countries have laws regulating the building sector. But as many other countries they also have contractors and real estate owners that are willing to cut corners for profit, as well as being a country where corruption is an issue. Remember there was a similar issue in Italy some years ago, though during/after an earthquake I believe. A lot of houses went to shambles due to trixing with building materials to earn more cash. What on earth was the name of this town again. Was during Berlo's reign. Help me out folks ...
I want to see the most racist commercial ever made!
http://reason.com/blog/2013/05/02/mountain-dew-pulls-ad-after-complaints-i
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on May 02, 2013, 12:02:52 AM
The collapse in Italy- was it during a wedding or something?
nope, that happened in Israel!
there were videos of people dancing and then disappearing in the mess
there have been many collapses in the past years in Italy... either shitty building built illegally in places where thery were not supposed to be, or massive earthquakes (like l'aquila) that was quite sad indeed and the town has been left as it was since years now....
Not that I know the band Graves At Sea, but this statement from Killtown Bookings (who organise amongst others the Kill-Town Death fest in Denmark) is interesting.
QuoteStatement from Killtown Bookings concerning the cancellation of GRAVES AT SEA at "Alerta Antifascista Death Fest" in Hannover:
After over a week of attempting to communicate with the promoter from "Alerta Antifascista Death Fest" and trying to work out a resolution to his concerns about a band member pictured (in 2005) wearing a shirt of the band "Nachtmystium"; It has today come to an unfortunate and drastic cancellation and public slandering of Graves at Sea.
We are shocked by this, and extremely upset about the way this has been handled! The promoter writes in his statement that Graves at Sea "... obviously support or like NSBM Bands". What the fuck?!?!?!? Where does this guy get his information, and who the fuck does he think he is making such unfounded and baseless accusations? On top of which, making them public?!
We have been trying to have constructive dialogue with this guy, but without any luck what so ever. The promoter asked for statements from the band and management, which were readily and willingly provided. After having received said statements from both parties, denouncing being a political band nor having any sympathies for rightwing or NSBM bands – He refuses to acknowledge this, or use those statements in the formation of his opinion. We cannot comprehend the absurdity of his accusations and his terribly unprofessional handling of this matter! It deeply offends and shocks us.
The fact that he chose to cancel 1 day before the band arrives in Europe, shows his complete lack of research into this matter. This is the first European Graves at Sea tour ever and after months and months of planning, it is clear that the promoter could have looked into the band´s lyrics, covers, record label etc. But apparently, a t-shirt found on an 8 year old photo was enough for this so called "1000% anti-fascist".
*Killtown Bookings does not work with fascist bands, or any bands affiliating with the rightwing in any way! We can 100% vouch for Graves at Sea, and we want to strongly underline that the members of this band are NOT fascist in any way.*
With the release of this statement, we are hoping to aid in the dismantling of the ridiculous accusations placed upon Graves At Sea by this promoter. We would like to encourage people to continue to support this band on their forthcoming European tour, and not to be persuaded by unfounded propaganda spit forth by this individual.
Daniel & Nikolaj // Killtown Bookings
There's no end to PC faggotry and I think the next step is boycotting any band with members wearing a Graves at Sea t-shirt, hahaha!
This is very normal situation around europe, I think?
I recall great story of band who did release on my friends label. Some organizers voiced concern because the band is associated with person, who knows me! And later on at their tour there was plans to cancel shows due rumors I may play drums in the band. And members try to tell, just check out damn ID's. That Mikko character is NOT playing, and never has been involved in band. HAH!
But yeah, if you want to play in "Alerta Antifascista Death Fest", I guess you can expect certain amount of nonsense?
Yeah, a lot of this happens, like Skyforger saying they're not nazi's, but still having to cancel concerts. Which resulted in changing their logo in the end (which I think is pity, but I understand).
This however seems so far fetched! Which is why I joked about boycotting bands with members who wear Graves At Sea t-shirts...
That's great too, about the discussion whether you were in that band or not.
Indeed, on the other hand, if a band is going to play at Alerta Antifascista, they're probably not nazi's?!
I know that Alerta Antifascista label is going to get copies of an LP I want, but I'll be damned if I order it from them. I don't mind ordering from leftist labels (otherwise I wouldn't listen to some Crust Punk), but this is just over the top. Or maybe I should do it and then afterwards send him an e-mail: "haha, a nazi just ordered from your label!" (which I'm not, but I'm certain this guy will think I am). And then he has to send my money to a charity organization in Africa, because he can't keep my evil nazi money. (Ok, got to stop here, my imagination is on a roll now.)
Yeah, I think that's normal... A few recent examples from here is a band Luctus, cancelling a few concerts in Spain because antifas from there found an interview with vocalist of the band when he was 15 years old and amongst answers about his favourite lessons in school and so on, he mentioned that from time to time he listened to NSBM. This is of course very dangerous and might build up fascism pretty quickly.
On the other hand, there is a guy, local activist, who is known to be ill with schizophrenia. Years ago he started B&H in Lithuania (or at least he claimed to start), then he became football fan and now he is a very big fighter against fascism. Few years because of his massive diarrhea of emails to Korpiklaani managers etc. they cancelled their show, also problems with Skyforger and countless other bands. The point is - because of the thing that he is medically confirmed retard, he lives with his mum who gives him money to buy vinyls and he has plenty of time to fight against threats of fascism that might appear on the internets.
QuoteGerman TV drops Derrick show over SS actor revelations
German broadcaster ZDF has dropped repeat showings of a popular detective series after it emerged its late star had hidden his Waffen SS past.
Archives released last month reveal Horst Tappert, who played Derrick in the show of the same name, had served in the Totenkopf panzer division.
Tappert, who died in 2008, had remained tight-lipped about his war record.
According to the archives, the 19-year-old panzer grenadier was wounded on the Eastern Front in 1943.
With its motto "My Honour Is Loyalty", the Totenkopf (skull) division became one of the most ruthless units of the Waffen SS - the combat arm of Hitler's SS paramilitary force.
'Shocked and troubled'
ZDF, the German public TV broadcaster, said it would not show any more repeats of the 281 episodes of Derrick, which were made between 1974 and 1998.
"ZDF is shocked and troubled by the news that Horst Tappert was a member of the Waffen SS," spokesman Peter Bogenschuetz told AFP news agency.
"We have no plans to broadcast any more reruns."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-22384143
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on May 02, 2013, 12:02:52 AMThe collapse in Italy- was it during a wedding or something?
According to my Italo-Norwegian friend it was as T-T mentioned, l'aquila.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2013/may/07/channel-4-joky-sex-ad
Channel 4 censured for airing jokey ad after 'disturbing' movie rape scene
Light-hearted Phones 4U ident featuring woman during sex ran after disturbing scene in The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo
Quote from: tiny_tove on May 07, 2013, 02:32:24 PM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2013/may/07/channel-4-joky-sex-ad
Channel 4 censured for airing jokey ad after 'disturbing' movie rape scene
Light-hearted Phones 4U ident featuring woman during sex ran after disturbing scene in The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo
I fucking despair of people, I really do.
I suggest to check Somali born Italian politician Sacia Valent... She is not politically correct, quite the contrary, a real hatemonger. Cannot stop loving her.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dacia_Valent
http://www.scriptavalent.com/
Quote from: tiny_tove on May 08, 2013, 03:06:02 PM
I suggest to check Somali born Italian politician Sacia Valent... She is not politically correct, quite the contrary, a real hatemonger. Cannot stop loving her.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dacia_Valent
http://www.scriptavalent.com/
Sounds like my dream girl, if only I was not a filthy homosexual
in Lithuania 9 people were arrested today because of the flag that hey held on some bridge in Vilnius that is offensive... The picture is below. Well, there are five people with Lithuanian flag, standing on the USSR flag that might not be seen very good in the picture. It's really very offensive stuff..
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PE meets beach season - chinese stylw
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http://www.amusingplanet.com/2012/08/the-latest-chinese-beach-craze-face-kini.html (http://www.amusingplanet.com/2012/08/the-latest-chinese-beach-craze-face-kini.html)
Quote from: Levas on May 09, 2013, 10:31:15 PM
in Lithuania 9 people were arrested today because of the flag that hey held on some bridge in Vilnius that is offensive... The picture is below. Well, there are five people with Lithuanian flag, standing on the USSR flag that might not be seen very good in the picture. It's really very offensive stuff..
But more to that story according to http://www.15min.lt/en/article/in-lithuania/nine-young-lithuanians-arrested-for-hanging-anti-soviet-banner-might-have-been-part-of-bigger-secret-police-operation-525-334304 - but who knows what to believe unless you were there, and who knows why the prosecutors, media and cops tried to initially frame it as absurd PC faggotry.
I have always loved Barbie although I am not a big fan of "real life" Barbies lookalike.
A confirmation that liberal people hates nice things.
http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/afp/130510/berlins-barbie-dreamhouse-pink-feminist-nightmare
I'm a stay at home dad. I'm a feminist. I have erotic thoughts about random women I pass on the street. How can I stop that?
http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2013/05/stay_at_home_dad_sexual_fantasies_why_i_d_like_to_stop.html (http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2013/05/stay_at_home_dad_sexual_fantasies_why_i_d_like_to_stop.html)
Pathetic. Absolutely pathetic.
http://www.crikey.com.au/2013/06/05/child-p-rn-or-art-censorship-by-wannabe-tory-pollies/ (http://www.crikey.com.au/2013/06/05/child-p-rn-or-art-censorship-by-wannabe-tory-pollies/)
Australia has a long, ignoble history of censorship, and, as this article shows, there are those maintaining the tradition today. Not so much faggotry as mean-minded bullshit.
Cold Cave / Boyd Rice show cancelled in Philly, here's the reason:
"Unfortunately the June 19th FREE show with Cold Cave has been canceled. Cold Cave invited artist, Boyd Rice (aka NON) to open all of the shows for their upcoming tour. In short, Mr. Rice has been associated with some questionable and offensive behavior in the past. We received some messages from upset patrons asking that he be removed from the show and felt their concerns were valid. We asked the members and representatives of Cold Cave if we could host the show without Boyd Rice. They decided that they did not want to play without Boyd Rice - so they have canceled their appearance in Philadelphia. We respect their decision to do so (and hopefully they respect our decision as well)"
"associated with some questionable and offensive behavior in the past" - cunts
I honestly don't care much about either artist but the whole thing just makes me laugh.
Wow! I thought that sort of thing didn't happen any more! Ridiculous.
Quote from: Salamanauhat on May 31, 2013, 05:59:55 PM
I'm a stay at home dad. I'm a feminist. I have erotic thoughts about random women I pass on the street. How can I stop that?
http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2013/05/stay_at_home_dad_sexual_fantasies_why_i_d_like_to_stop.html (http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2013/05/stay_at_home_dad_sexual_fantasies_why_i_d_like_to_stop.html)
castration.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sU1RkRH43Gs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sU1RkRH43Gs)
Quote from: andy vomit on June 12, 2013, 05:35:44 PM
Quote from: Salamanauhat on May 31, 2013, 05:59:55 PM
I'm a stay at home dad. I'm a feminist. I have erotic thoughts about random women I pass on the street. How can I stop that?
http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2013/05/stay_at_home_dad_sexual_fantasies_why_i_d_like_to_stop.html (http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2013/05/stay_at_home_dad_sexual_fantasies_why_i_d_like_to_stop.html)
castration.
Totally! It's a terrible idea actually. Say every man starts to think like that. Guess it won't take long before mankind gets rid of itself, haha. (Well, maybe it's not so bad an idea then, hehe.)
Stockholm Straight Edge cancelled Kickback gig and gave the following statement:
"We have chosen to cancel the concert with Kickback based upon their statements that go against our democratic foundation. Their statements are both over-the-top sexistic and glorify drug abuse. Stockholm Straight Edge is a feministic and drugfree organizing crew, which means we don't invite bands to perform at our events if they don't share our point of view."
I know, this happens all the time but I still find it quite irritating.
"...we don't invite bands to perform at our events if they don't share our point of view". Jeez!
Hopefully Kickback can perform in Finland at least.
swedish sxe have always been amongst the saddest
Old news but might not have been posted...
Guilty by association: http://killtownbookings.com/?p=525
Quote from: Scat-O-Logy on June 17, 2013, 02:16:26 PM
I know, this happens all the time but I still find it quite irritating.
"...we don't invite bands to perform at our events if they don't share our point of view". Jeez!
Actually, that's okay. I've thought for a long time that any organisation that puts in the hours and the bucks to do things, like host bands in this case, have the right to make calls regarding who they associate with and why. The UK anarcho-band Conflict had an Australian tour of theirs' cancelled when the promoters heard a song of theirs that was against Muslim refugees. The promoters took offence and dropped the tour. To their credit, the Conflict people understood, claiming on their site (this was a couple of years ago, I don't have a link right now and couldn't find the site today) that the promoters had the right to cancel tours for whatever reason. I thought that was a pretty mature approach, certainly since they would have known that song would have ruffled feathers.
Seems to me that these promoters need to go over every single song lyric & interview with a fine-tooth comb before booking any band.
Yeah, cancelling an entire tour over one song makes total sense.
Fritzl incest dungeon filled with concrete.
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/03/22/article-1163862-0000022000000CB2-648_468x286.jpg)
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/breaking-news/fritzl-incest-dungeon-filled-with-concrete/story-fni0xqlk-1226667098632 (http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/breaking-news/fritzl-incest-dungeon-filled-with-concrete/story-fni0xqlk-1226667098632)
(http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00479/SNN0205A_479945a.jpg)
sounds fake but I am laughing my ass off
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4978734/Vagina-monologues-man-dressed-as-willy-saved-by-vagina.html
Love this thread, got me to join the forum in fact.
How about all those boyd rice cancellations? and the most absurd comment sections currently online.
"One survey in the early 1920′s found only 36% of the respondents were willing to live next door to a Finn. Signs [in taverns] could be found declaring "No Indians or Finns allowed."
finns, what a dirty, stinky folk
http://mesaba.wordpress.com/history/
might have posted something similar but it still gives me a chuckle.
Quote from: Scat-O-Logy on June 17, 2013, 02:16:26 PM
Stockholm Straight Edge cancelled Kickback gig and gave the following statement:
"We have chosen to cancel the concert with Kickback based upon their statements that go against our democratic foundation. Their statements are both over-the-top sexistic and glorify drug abuse. Stockholm Straight Edge is a feministic and drugfree organizing crew, which means we don't invite bands to perform at our events if they don't share our point of view."
I know, this happens all the time but I still find it quite irritating.
"...we don't invite bands to perform at our events if they don't share our point of view". Jeez!
Hopefully Kickback can perform in Finland at least.
well straightedgers are usually faggots anyways so this comes as no surprise
here's a funny video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vayv1irm5Q
hallo, no offence but I have been straight edge since my early teens, I am 40 and I am no "faggot", whatever you mean with it, or at least I do not think I am ;).
so are not people I have been hanging around., there seems to ba a difference between people who just has a lifestyle, and those who follow an "underground religion" (like these Swedes) which seems to be a problem of most subcultures.
anyway, the video you posted made me crack.
(http://i42.tinypic.com/2je8dtw.png)
http://jihawg.com/index.php?route=common/home
This ammunition company apparently licenses bullets covered in pork meat on order to scare the shit our of Muslims. The whole thing is causing quite a stir.
"Put some HAM in MoHAMed!"
Quote from: tiny_tove on July 01, 2013, 10:40:31 AM
hallo, no offence but I have been straight edge since my early teens, I am 40 and I am no "faggot", whatever you mean with it, or at least I do not think I am ;).
so are not people I have been hanging around., there seems to ba a difference between people who just has a lifestyle, and those who follow an "underground religion" (like these Swedes) which seems to be a problem of most subcultures.
anyway, the video you posted made me crack.
I actually have a friend who is straight-edge but he does it for personal reasons, not anyone else's, to better himself. if you're doing it to live out a social justice thug lifestyle, just eat a bullet. I do realize there's a difference but where I live its too many of the latter and not enough of the former. SOSF thinks they own NE Ohio and anyone who opposes them (basically anyone who's against feminism, veganism, affirmative action) is the enemy and has no right to live. who's the real fascist now?? (that wasn't directed at you, just a rhetorical question)
it may be Ian Mackaye's fault for the shit, but even he distances himself from what its become. I gotta admit his integrity is still there. do what makes you happy, not what makes everyone else happy.
YUMMIE!
(http://gfx.nrk.no//A6M2g4alwNssYVbyxToWCgl-R04K-VNY8nd8zelxC0Ig)
http://www.nrk.no/nordland/slik-foregar-dagens-hvalfangst-1.11109755 (http://www.nrk.no/nordland/slik-foregar-dagens-hvalfangst-1.11109755)
Four years of conflict: Denied homemaker assistance from Vestby Municipality due to decorating home with pornography.
(http://www.oblad.no/polopoly_fs/tommy-catlover-1.7975297!/image/2384266003.jpg_gen/derivatives/derivative_article_980/2384266003.jpg)
http://www.oblad.no/nyheter/nektes-hjemmehjelp-fordi-han-har-porno-pa-veggene-1.7962420 (http://www.oblad.no/nyheter/nektes-hjemmehjelp-fordi-han-har-porno-pa-veggene-1.7962420)
no more Miss Italian on Italian state tv....
feminazi head of chamber hopes it will be removed also from other tvs
http://www.adnkronos.com/IGN/News/Politica/Boldrini-Niente-Miss-Italia-sulla-Rai-Una-scelta-moderna-e-civile_32398840345.html
"I love animals - bears and wolves, as is known, but when I see the pictures of Kyenge I cannot but think of the features of an orangutan, even if I'm not saying she is one." Senator Roberto Calderoli, deputy head of the Northern League in the Italian Senate
http://www.dw.de/italy-grapples-with-racial-slurs-against-minister/a-16898208
I am no fan of Kyenge, together with her friend Boldrini they are causing even more tension trying to turn Italy into a PC reich, but for once I think Calderoli has proved (once again) to be an idiot.
He is a figure in Italy for saying the wrong things at the wrong time.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on June 30, 2013, 10:47:39 PM
I didn't know there were any Finns in the U.S.
Sure are. My dad knew quite a few when he was growing up in western Minnesota. I bet you can still go into some small town cafes in that area and hear old people speaking Finnish. Euro immigrants tended to settle in places in North America that resembled their homelands and Minnesota has lots and lots of trees and lakes.
funny
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbpiq3HOLi1qdlh1io1_400.gif)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2013/jul/22/cameron-no-ban-sun-page-3
Quote from: tiny_tove on July 22, 2013, 04:30:39 PM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2013/jul/22/cameron-no-ban-sun-page-3
Fuck me he is an insufferable cunt.
It's probably fair to say this is not news to anyone now, but for those who do not know the background to this article, our 'Glorious Leader' has announced that anyone in the UK wishing to view "adult material" will need to opt in with their ISP.
QuotePressed to explain the distinction between his proactive position on online pornographic images and his laissez-faire stance on topless images in newspapers, he said that it was up to consumers whether or not they wanted to buy the Sun.
He knows who his boss is.
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on July 23, 2013, 02:31:00 AM
QuotePressed to explain the distinction between his proactive position on online pornographic images and his laissez-faire stance on topless images in newspapers, he said that it was up to consumers whether or not they wanted to buy the Sun.
He knows who his boss is.
Indeed.
The Page 3 topless photos, according to Wikipedia, has been around since 1970. Bet less people complained about it 43 years ago.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on July 23, 2013, 11:32:43 PM
The Page 3 topless photos, according to Wikipedia, has been around since 1970. Bet less people complained about it 43 years ago.
The photos bother me not, it's the stupidity of our Prime Minister that gets me!
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on July 23, 2013, 11:32:43 PM
The Page 3 topless photos, according to Wikipedia, has been around since 1970. Bet less people complained about it 43 years ago.
Growing up in 1970s UK there was always a copy of The Sun being passed around the classroom by dirty-minded little kids. The supposedly left-wing tabloid the Daily Mirror also had tits, they used page 5 and seem to have airbrushed it from their newspaper's history in recent years. Throughout the 70s and 80s around 50% of the page 3 girls were age 16 to 18 which would be illegal here nowadays apparently.
The most fun thing around these tedious cheesecake shots was always the blurb underneath which tied in somehow with the newspaper's editorial position. "Shapely Natalie, 19, has no time for terrorists. "I support our troops in Iraq, something needs to be done" she says" etc.
Not this week, but I've read that Haemorrhage album Apology for Pathology has been banned in Germany since 2007. Why?
Quote from: Levas on July 28, 2013, 04:36:01 PM
Not this week, but I've read that Haemorrhage album Apology for Pathology has been banned in Germany since 2007. Why?
One never knows, the reasons are never publically stated. When it comes to Grindcore/Death Metal and Black Metal the executives just sometimes ban albums randomly. Possibly they simply want to show that they don't approve of the messages, graphics etc? This may sound weird, but in Germany practically anything can get banned. One should take into account that "Apology for Pathology" is not banned per se but restricted, meaning that it's illegal to sell it openly on eBay, in webstores etc. You can however sell it to adults. It's pretty much the same as with pornography...
Quote from: vomitgore on July 28, 2013, 08:19:23 PM
Quote from: Levas on July 28, 2013, 04:36:01 PM
Not this week, but I've read that Haemorrhage album Apology for Pathology has been banned in Germany since 2007. Why?
One never knows, the reasons are never publically stated. When it comes to Grindcore/Death Metal and Black Metal the executives just sometimes ban albums randomly. Possibly they simply want to show that they don't approve of the messages, graphics etc? This may sound weird, but in Germany practically anything can get banned. One should take into account that "Apology for Pathology" is not banned per se but restricted, meaning that it's illegal to sell it openly on eBay, in webstores etc. You can however sell it to adults. It's pretty much the same as with pornography...
Gore and Perversion by Desecration suffered the same issue I think? My memory is hazy, I do remember they had problems with the original version though.
I just checked a german source for banned items and Descecration was nowhere to be found. That doesn't mean too much though, sometimes there can be other troubles with the law which can, for example, lead to merely the covers being confiscated (as was the case with a Spear of Longinus album).
You are right about Cannibal Corpse though. There is a pretty legendary female teacher involved in the censorship problems Cannibal Corpse have, I don't have her name handy though. She personally denounced all of their albums at the board of censorship and even went to their concerts and sued them for playing banned songs, like "Hammer Smashed Face". An old school friend of mine had been in her class before he came to my school. One time she freaked out because of his Rammstein (!) t-shirt and went completely berserk. In Germany, people like this can get their way really easily. So now every CC album is released in a special german edition with a non-offensive cover without lyrics. Some of them still get banned, ironically.
Although it's a pretty dire situation for many artists, it's kind of a gamble, at the end of the day. As far as I know, not one PE release has ever been banned here, simply because the albums never made it into the wrong hands. Running a label like FA or F&V in Germany would probably get you incarcerated though, heh
I think one of the earliest Deranged releases, the "Upon the Medical Slab" single (http://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Deranged/Upon_the_Medical_Slab/51780), was seized by the German border authorities & landed the label owner (Malodorous Mangled Innards Records) with a nasty fine back in 1994. Perhaps they didn't appreciate the artwork, though it's not very graphic.
Quote from: vomitgore on July 29, 2013, 11:10:26 PM
I just checked a german source for banned items and Descecration was nowhere to be found. That doesn't mean too much though, sometimes there can be other troubles with the law which can, for example, lead to merely the covers being confiscated (as was the case with a Spear of Longinus album).
It appears that it was a more localised banning and arresting:
"Formed in 1992,[1] and releasing their first demo in 1993, the band caused controversy in 1995 when their debut album Gore and Perversion (original version on Anoxic Records) was infamously seized and incinerated by the local police due to the album's offensive content, for what they deemed to be its obscene nature, and banned upon release.[2][3] The printers of the original artwork and lyrics, after taking the money for the pressing and without sending any copies to the band, sent the albums to the police authorities and were subsequently incinerated.[4] Band members were arrested.[5] The ensuing court case and media furore firmly established the name Desecration in the South Wales scene and beyond. The album was later released with a black cover featuring the statement "SORRY! Censored by the authorities. Original artwork can be obtained from Arctic Serenades. Send an IRC.", now out of print, by Arctic Serenades.[6]"So not quite the international infamy I had thought!
Quote from: vomitgore on July 29, 2013, 11:10:26 PM
As far as I know, not one PE release has ever been banned here, simply because the albums never made it into the wrong hands.
Con-Dom 'Colour Of A Man's Skin' - commissioned and I believe paid for by Tesco but released with no label named on the package as a result of fear and self-censorship - swastika partially visible on artwork, inflammatory 'hate crime' lyrics throughout taken from third party sources. Ironic that the album is quite obviously intended as a statement against bigotry and racism, just using provocative methods.
Obviously?
Well, I'm sure you know Mike Dando far better than I, but I'd always taken his stance as a bit more ambivalent. I mean, it's obviously not the first time he trod on this territory, and I realise he's not a Brevik-type nutter, but, y'know, he's probably not a "nigger-lover" either. As I say, you may know differently, but to say his stance is 'obvious' is a bit bewildering. I suppose you could view the record ("Colour of a Man's Skin") a number of ways:
- an 'obvious' and straight-forward anti-racist statement: I don't buy this, since a lot of the time (in industrial/ power electronics) these kind of things are presented in a deliberately cloudy and opaque way.
- an excuse to put forward a lot of pro-white imagery and content while 'balancing' it w/ comparatively impotent pro-black imagery. Again, I don't think this is really the case because some of it seems too 'over the top' to be true.
- an exercise in being provocative for it's own sake: there's probably a bit of this, and sure - what harm?!
Anyway, I think it's not as clear-cut as you suggest, but that it can be summed up in the words of the 'Ebony and Ivory' track printed on the 7": 'To stay alive; Ebony and Ivory; Side by side; Together Apart; Perfect'! This seems to imply an accepatance of the realities, but also a desire for seperation or for remaining seperate from it, no?
Also, Dando has worked w/ both declared racists (Control Resistance), and declared anti-racists (Militia), so you see, the stance is probably not so clear-cut as you suggest.
Not sure I would agree that the black power talk is 'comparatively impotent' on that album, there's some very powerful rhetoric (some of it is Bobby Seale as I remember - I really should have taken notes) and I love that superpimp imagery on the inserts.
It's great that the LP still causes discussion. It is an all-time classic of power electronics and controversial art. The greatest Con-Dom release and one for the PE canon.
Mike is a major league fan of black people's music who promoted many black jazz players over the years in Leeds and he's generally a Guardian reading pussycat, and just from knowing him personally I take the album as a statement against bigotry but hey, maybe I'm wrong. From the gossip I remember in the 90s he had little more than morbid fascination with the likes of Control Resistance. The "nigger-lovin' Texans of Psycodrama" get a thank you on the album if I remember correctly, that kind of taboo busting craziness seems to lie closer to the Con-Dom ethic than any kind of fixed political stance.
I confirm anything said by Hongkong...
It is a complex (and succesful) analysis of several aspects of white/black racism under different perspectives. Ideology, biology, fears, etc.
Of course when you do not tag a record under a political/propaganda flag it can fail to convince everybody... But I think it worked out and seeing that performance live was quite an experience. He's been perfectly describing the ambivalence of hate.
http://www.catherinebennett.so/ - investigate at leisure and piece together the story of this ultra-PC imaginary popstar project created by grant-grabbing, MP-cruising art careerist Bryony Kimmings. Words fail me. I look forward to her niece disowning this drivel, you know it will come.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-23063492 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-23063492)
Village for sex offenders.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfCYZ3pks48 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfCYZ3pks48)
dumbest Guardian article ever
http://www.theguardian.com/music/2013/aug/08/naked-women-pop-videos-justin-timberlake?CMP=twt_gu
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on August 25, 2013, 10:34:17 PM
"Nigger Oven" would be a good name for a band but then you wouldn't be able to sell the releases on Discogs:
http://dailycaller.com/2013/03/05/update-shockingly-the-hateful-vandalism-at-oberlin-was-perpetrated-by-students/
a note in the Multicultural Resource Center saying "Nigger + Faggot Center."Don't know or care if this is some drunken jocks or some kind of Tawana Brawley thing but that made my night and created audible mirth...'neither big nor clever' of course.
I cannot tell the difference. Does President Mugabe have a Hilter mustache or is it a shadow?
(http://gfx.nrk.no//RFeORgNnT_VfNt3Rn8NY0Ap4OzM7xczVOAYq1MQ1FBCA)
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on August 25, 2013, 10:34:17 PM
"Nigger Oven" would be a good name for a band but then you wouldn't be able to sell the releases on Discogs:
http://dailycaller.com/2013/03/05/update-shockingly-the-hateful-vandalism-at-oberlin-was-perpetrated-by-students/
The "we don't wanna believe that these guys were serious" response by the press is hilarious. "Racism is a thing of the past, y'all!!"
http://www.thescarproject.org/ (http://www.thescarproject.org/)
Quote from: Si Clark on August 27, 2013, 03:43:36 AM
I'm not sure what you call his moustache. Technically I guess it's not a Hitler moustache as it's too thin, it's not a shadow. The total arsehole that he is said this about Hitler when the international community was complaining about him -
"This Hitler has only one objective: justice for his people, sovereignty for his people, recognitition of the independence of his people and their rights over their resources, if that is Hitler, then let me be a Hitler tenfold."
I would categorize his upper hair lip as something in the confines of monsieur mustache. Though it is a disgrace. Notice. It is shaved askew. Look, it is tilting to his right - our left.
They call him The authoritarian Big Man in Africa now. The last of his breed. After taking the power in Zimbabwe as a rebel hero he have now reigned in 33 consecutive years. He must be doing something right!
Quote from: burdizzo on August 05, 2013, 01:32:51 AM
Brevik-type
After WW2 Norway spawned a new word for traitor. Quisling. After July 22nd, Breivik is synonymous in Norway of being totally fucked up, crazy/insane, beyond reach and help. You name it. Maybe I will make an own thread titled - Are you totally Breivik or what?!! - Where peeps can post the most fucked up and human waste basket they can find.
(http://media.web.britannica.com/eb-media/47/38547-004-0D8744F7.jpg)
(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01955/breivik6_1955639c.jpg)
Obama is praising MLK's speech while planning another useless war, this time against Syria.
Quote from: tiny_tove on August 28, 2013, 11:01:04 PM
Obama is praising MLK's speech while planning another useless war, this time against Syria.
It's ridiculous how americans think of their country as "good" and condemn other countries for war and violence and basically the same shit the united states government guilty of.
Neofolk or whatever band Rome rejected playing at the local folk/tribal/etc. festival after seeing this, stating that they don't play at nazi festivals. after long talks and persuasions they finally did. it was very weak though.
(http://events.sielojramu.org/albums/userpics/10001/MPU_0283~0.jpg)
That's pretty impressive. Was it set on fire at the end of the night?
Yes. there were more of such sculptures of hey that was burn at night. Here's a few photos of burning in progress
http://events.sielojramu.org/displayimage.php?album=206&pos=417 (http://events.sielojramu.org/displayimage.php?album=206&pos=417)
That is absolutely beautiful indeed!
And while I do understand that for some bands it might be quite extreme to see such a thing, I do like the fact that it seems possible over there. Or was there some media fuzz about it?
Well there were various provocations and you could see it named as "one of the most homophobic festival in Lithuania" as if Lithuania would have a special festival ranking according to homophobia or so. But the reason behind this "title" was someone asking on the festival's facebook page if "gay couples could get a family discount" heh. and the answer was somewhat smart and offensive - gay couples are not families and they are not welcomed in there. But apart from these small things, national tv had reports from there and so on. And this was the 16th time the fest was organized so it has its roots in here and more or less people know that this is not some sort of provocation etc. Or at least should know. But I think there will always be people who "suddenly discovered lurking nazi ghost" somewhere.
white chocolate ad removed from tv because considered racist
http://www.ilpost.it/2013/08/31/la-pubblicita-della-ferrero-accusata-di-razzismo/
this is causing some stir (although not official) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytVdBLMmRno
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/the-man-who-made-femen-new-film-outs-victor-svyatski-as-the-mastermind-behind-the-protest-group-and-its-breastbaring-stunts-8797042.html?utm_source=buffer&utm_campaign=Buffer&utm_content=buffer74f56&utm_medium=twitter (http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/the-man-who-made-femen-new-film-outs-victor-svyatski-as-the-mastermind-behind-the-protest-group-and-its-breastbaring-stunts-8797042.html?utm_source=buffer&utm_campaign=Buffer&utm_content=buffer74f56&utm_medium=twitter)
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/sep/04/femen-man-topless-protests-victor-vyatski?INTCMP=ILCNETTXT3487
more on our much discussed topless exhibitionists with a picture of my fave one!
Quote from: tiny_tove on September 06, 2013, 10:16:16 AM
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/sep/04/femen-man-topless-protests-victor-vyatski?INTCMP=ILCNETTXT3487
more on our much discussed topless exhibitionists with a picture of my fave one!
MMMM ... I wonder if he coach casts them?
SMILE !!!
http://stoptellingwomentosmile.com/About (http://stoptellingwomentosmile.com/About)
This is totally the end of the world.
(http://payload173.cargocollective.com/1/12/394137/5776979/DSC_7481.JPG)
??????
Quote from: online prowler on September 07, 2013, 04:11:51 AM
SMILE !!!
http://stoptellingwomentosmile.com/About (http://stoptellingwomentosmile.com/About)
This is totally the end of the world.
(http://payload173.cargocollective.com/1/12/394137/5776979/DSC_7481.JPG)
??????
Well if a woman is as fugly as she is I don't even want to see her face not to mention her smile.
(http://payload173.cargocollective.com/1/12/394137/5776979/DSC_0063.JPG)
"I am not a princess" - You got that right!
HE! HE! Its just sad how they project their confusion and down-rootedness in gender patterns. I think the first one was an extra in Lord of the rings - as an elf. I think we need to create a fetish for these girls as we did w the FEMEN chicks. What to name it though?
Apologies folks, a bit difficult to contain he hatered this weekend.
This has caused some ruffled feathers:
http://www.kwtx.com/home/headlines/Controversial-Tailgate-Stirs-Community-222620911.html
Long distance running is for retarded people
"Han dör bort totalt"!
"Killen kommer inte alls i mål"
Why is the commentator snickering ?
(http://gfx.nrk.no//5XibctkF_cW-ylr_4tjxwQqj9NXwqAdYD7bEyY5d6duA)
VID: http://www.nrk.no/sport/for-en-kollaps-av-svensken_-1.11227641 (http://www.nrk.no/sport/for-en-kollaps-av-svensken_-1.11227641)
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on September 07, 2013, 09:06:11 PM
http://stoptellingwomentosmile.tumblr.com/
I guess the photographer nor the woman being photographed didn't get the irony of holding a sign telling men how to validate her while standing in front of a poster that says "women do not need your validation".
He!He! Well its true. Also its not like we men have this in our heads constantly. To bless their feet. Far from it. To my eyes its a need from within themselves. A confirmation on being part of a group. So .. should they have the slogan "I don't seek your validation" over their own mirrors! Sad objects!
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/9eacba00d44a0282e7b734ce765fc5ee/tumblr_msis1hsirl1qzaos7o1_1280.jpg)
GIRL SELFIE:
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/0f7cac29a474056b6e39b012c00d0947/tumblr_mjz1ze5Sdn1qammqwo1_500.jpg)
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on September 07, 2013, 09:06:11 PM
http://stoptellingwomentosmile.tumblr.com/
http://au.news.yahoo.com/today-tonight/latest/article/-/18853698/bizarre-advertising-decision/ (http://au.news.yahoo.com/today-tonight/latest/article/-/18853698/bizarre-advertising-decision/)
QuoteAn advert for cosmetic company Ella Bache was deemed unsuitable for public display - not because the models are naked but because of the serious look on their faces.
Odd, sure, but no big deal, right?
Wait until you see the advert which was deemed ok to run in its place.
The one given the all-clear by the Outdoor Media Association to go on billboards was, apparently, because the models were smiling.
According to the OMS the smiling ladies are empowered, the serious ones are sexualised.
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on September 10, 2013, 02:41:00 AM
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on September 07, 2013, 09:06:11 PM
http://stoptellingwomentosmile.tumblr.com/
http://au.news.yahoo.com/today-tonight/latest/article/-/18853698/bizarre-advertising-decision/ (http://au.news.yahoo.com/today-tonight/latest/article/-/18853698/bizarre-advertising-decision/)
QuoteAn advert for cosmetic company Ella Bache was deemed unsuitable for public display - not because the models are naked but because of the serious look on their faces.
Odd, sure, but no big deal, right?
Wait until you see the advert which was deemed ok to run in its place.
The one given the all-clear by the Outdoor Media Association to go on billboards was, apparently, because the models were smiling.
According to the OMS the smiling ladies are empowered, the serious ones are sexualised.
I believe one have to have autism to read the womens expression as "serious". Is the press afraid to take a serious debate? Sexualized? Yes!! Of course!!! - And for the pleasure of my eyes only - smiling or looking
serious. HA! For the record I find them empowered and adorable in both poses. Are people worried that the sexualized/male chauvinism card is being drawn if one opposes this gender victim rhetoric? I find this news reel even worse than my sexualizing eyes. It presents the individuals as 2D paper dolls, and suggest that the viewer is an idiot.
The Yid Army may be no longer allowed to call themselves that - PC stupidity at its finest.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/tottenham-hotspur/10315105/David-Cameron-embroiled-in-race-row-over-Tottenham-Hotspur-Yid-chant.html
For non-UK residents, Tottenham Hotspur have long been associated with the Jewish community in North London, and their rivals Arsenal have a traditional chant to the tune of Singing The Blues: "I never felt more like gassing the Jews, when Arsenal win and Tottenham lose".
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/sep/26/tesco-withdraws-psycho-ward-costume-complaints
Quote from: tiny_tove on September 27, 2013, 10:56:06 AM
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/sep/26/tesco-withdraws-psycho-ward-costume-complaints
Funny I just saw this article yesterday:
Is it wrong to jokily call someone 'mental'?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-magazine-monitor-24282737 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-magazine-monitor-24282737)
smear campaigns for dummies. a Singer becomes a fascist sympathiser because of a t-shirt.
http://searchlightmagazine.com/news/domestic-news/fascist-sympathiser-anna-von-hausswolff-to-perform-in-bristol
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on September 30, 2013, 08:54:14 PM"crazier than a shithouse rat"
I have to remember that one.
"I don't like how in our society as soon as someone is offended we are supposed to be on their side. Obviously there are cases where actual offence has been caused but a lot of the time people who claim to be 'offended' have simply heard or read something that they don't like and then they start whining like the attention seeking little turds that they are."
That's right.It's what I call "The Cult Of The Victim". 'You can't say this & you can't say that..." It's always the wine sipping,Bi-sexual university art student,subhuman freak children that get offended. I couldn't speak for any other countries, but in the UK it's getting harder and harder to call a Spade a Spade, or a Spastic a Spastic....I'm guilty of all kinds of unspeakable slurs & couldn't care less.They've started taking those costumes off the shelves in ASDA & Tesco for fuck sake...if a costume offends you then you probably are a fucking spastic!
If the PC brigade were Kings for a day then the stuff i've shouted out of vans at all kinds of people (you name it i've shouted something at them...Muslims,morbidly obese people,etc) would have me locked up & never released....
However, you would be surprised at how many people you think would be offended just aren't! In fact, some people have thick skins!! Whatever happened to having a thick skin??.....I remember with one firm I used to work for, we used to have this gay bloke working for us.We would never insult him intentionally, but as anyone who has worked in an all male environment will know, sooner or later, everyone starts calling each other faggots.....He would turn up on site and hear all of us calling each other every name in the book....My boss would would shout something to me along the lines of : "OI HAL!, YOU CUM GUZZLING FAGGOT FUCK! WHERE'S MY FUCKING DRILL!?" and this gay guy would never bat an eyelid.Nice bloke & he gave back as good as he got.
In my opinion, the UK has become one of the worst places for PC Faggotry....
On Saturday some lefties in Malmö, who were demonstrating outside police HQ over the upset of a recently discovered unauthorised file on gypsies, beat up local artist Dan Park for taking the piss out of the event. He turned up, as per usual, with a placard with the text "ZIGENARBROTT ÄR GOTT" which translates to GYPSY CRIME IS GOOD. The commies didn't like it and about 5 of them beat him up and stole his ex girlfriends camera to prevent her documenting the assault. Police are charging two commies for ABH and Dan for good old "hets mot folkgrupp" which I guess is a Swedish version of hate crimes.
Hah, should've guessed it was DP who provoked the mob... though I thought it was gypsies who assaulted him. It's always the leftwingers, never the ones he's really assaulting...
Quote from: Jimmy Gestapo on October 01, 2013, 01:26:13 AMThey've started taking those costumes off the shelves in ASDA & Tesco for fuck sake...if a costume offends you then you probably are a fucking spastic!
QuoteNew tape on Unrest Productions!
CAULDHAME - Debris, C52
Cauldhame is an industrial/power electronics project from the UK, formed in 2008. "Debris" is the first in a series of works on the theme of mental illness; a portrayal of the damage inflicted by a failing, mismanaged healthcare system and a culture of wilful ignorance, delivered across 8 tracks in 50 minutes of densely detailed industrial/PE. An attack on the misappropriation of "Messianic Delusion" and other textbook tropes as comedic cliché, released within a week of UK supermarkets withdrawing "Mental Patient" Hallowe'en costumes from their shelves.
Quote from: ARKHE on October 01, 2013, 08:57:00 PM
Hah, should've guessed it was DP who provoked the mob... though I thought it was gypsies who assaulted him. It's always the leftwingers, never the ones he's really assaulting...
The perhaps funniest fall out from DP's latest prank was the commie website claiming that "an infamous nazi had attacked their peaceful manifestation". A ludicrous claim for anyone who knows the physical stature of Dan Park. My mother could probably beat him up. Since anyone who disagrees with the left is all horrible things rolled into one the nazi claim might be justified. At least if you're a commie.
QuoteIt's what I call "The Cult Of The Victim". 'You can't say this & you can't say that..."
I always thought that you can say pretty much anything in the free western civilization. Maybe things have changed then and now suddenly there is no more freedom of speech which is protected by constitutional laws? Just take responsibility for your words if you want to yell something stupid like "pakis get out" in the streets and stop playing the role of some oppressed white heterosexual man.
Even a Yid can't say "Yid"!
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/spurs-yid-race-row-police-2335137 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/spurs-yid-race-row-police-2335137)
Assad adoration:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5pWJCA1xJ0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5pWJCA1xJ0)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfajzvxZ374 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfajzvxZ374)
(http://shariaunveiled.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/bashar-al-assad-7-resized.jpg)
Quote from: Half Aborted on October 04, 2013, 04:57:46 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IYx4Bc6_eE
Well that's pretty much dead-on in my view, and the point about how taking offence to the more ridiculous forms of PC can be a cover for bigotry and old-fashioned attitudes is borne out by many of the posts in this increasingly embarrassing thread - This Week In PE Stupidity indeed. I for one like the idea of hanging out with these exotic sounding 'wine sipping Bi-sexual university art student subhuman freak children' rather than clinically depressed and insecure examples of humourless masculinity in crisis.
Quote from: GEWALTMONOPOL on October 01, 2013, 06:24:23 PM
On Saturday some lefties in Malmö, who were demonstrating outside police HQ over the upset of a recently discovered unauthorised file on gypsies, beat up local artist Dan Park for taking the piss out of the event. He turned up, as per usual, with a placard with the text "ZIGENARBROTT ÄR GOTT" which translates to GYPSY CRIME IS GOOD. The commies didn't like it and about 5 of them beat him up and stole his ex girlfriends camera to prevent her documenting the assault. Police are charging two commies for ABH and Dan for good old "hets mot folkgrupp" which I guess is a Swedish version of hate crimes.
Huge fun and just very sad. Why is it that todays left need an opposite dynamic to function? That is a neanderthal standpoint. Nothing works in opposition. Boiled down it is just affirmation of the so called enemy. Develop an own path, like Dan Park, even though that failed miserably he kept going.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on October 04, 2013, 09:31:58 PM
I like Stewart Lee had to go back to the '80s for his very extreme examples.
Of course he did because back then political correctness wasn't really a thing, going back to the past illustrated his point that since political correctness has come into being things like that are far less common which has massively improved the quality of life for many. He even admits there are problems with it, which I agree with, but that overall it is much better than what went on before.
Downton Abbey is my post-victorian guilty pleasure. Probably the price of aging, but I cannot resist this romantic drama based in England.
The most recent episode feature a non graphic/non out of context/non voyeuristic rape scene and here is the result.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/oct/08/downton-abbey-rape-scene-acceptable-tv
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on October 04, 2013, 10:40:55 PMIs there another video in which he gives actual evidence that
He's a political standup comedian, not wikipedia
Quote from: Jimmy Gestapo on October 01, 2013, 01:26:13 AMThey've started taking those costumes off the shelves in ASDA & Tesco for fuck sake...if a costume offends you then you probably are a fucking spastic!
The offensive thing about those costumes to me is who benefits; the businesses. There's obviously been people somewhere up the pecking order in each company who's realised the "scandal" it would cause and gauged it could only generate income for them. Same with the politicians, press, film studios, whatever, who reel out the caricatures when it suits to line their pockets. It's in their economic interests to perpetuate the misconceptions and slurs so they can wade through the resulting controversies, collecting their money and publicity as they go. The burden of the stigma for it all just gets passed down to the last people who deserve it.
Quote...released within a week of UK supermarkets withdrawing "Mental Patient" Hallowe'en costumes from their shelves.
I asked Unrest to quote this in their blurb as I was particularly riled about it that day, but on reflection it probably makes me look like a massive hypocrite. I live and learn!
I play in a band where four of us have done time in nut wards. We have dressed up onstage with things like I WIL KILL AGEN written on us - review from The Wire, 2008: "Some of Ceramic Hobs have spent time in mental institutions, apparently, but I had to roar out an un-PC laugh when they came on in dresses, clown masks and fright wigs like a kids' birthday party version of Slipknot" - this whole mental patient costume thing really is PC at its stupidest, and fuck Sinead O'Connor too.
The question of how much political correctness has improved the quality of life should not be answered by us straight white males who live our lives like a video game in permanent easy mode. I work on music occasionally with a black guy, we are too much like good friends to be uptight around each other and have laughed at Johnny Rebel (& Public Enemy) records together, but I am pretty sure that the enforced politeness of what some here would mock as political correctness has improved his life. Just down to simple things like a pub bouncer won't stop him from entering because of the colour of his skin anymore.
being politically uncorrect does not always mean to be smart. "lads" culture, white trash, gansta, robbers, and any kind of macho-street male is more politically uncorrect forbidden jokes or playing around with stereotypes as many of us do, yet the do not defintely represent nice examples...
pc annoys when causes hysteria on formal reasons that distract from far more iimportant subjects.
lefties creating monsters from nowhere to defend specific categories of people while most of these people do not need laws to defend themselves.
look at Italy. we have people in the parliament that while things are really turning to shit , waste time claiming that there should be no mothers serving at the table in advertisements or parents should no longer be called mother/father but parent 1 and parent 2.... I am not a conservative prick who loves the dream family ideal or think at family as a value and bla bla bla, but fucking hell, I know where I come from and I think it is disrespectful to those two person who had to deal with me for many decades with all the patience of the world having to depersonalise them and turn them from what they have always been to a different neutral gender.
and this happens while we are having a massive crisis, nothing is working, big companies are getting sold to foreign investors and the social state is burning...
this is the PC that annoys me most...
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on October 09, 2013, 03:36:37 AM
In order for something to be a stereotype, wouldn't the costumes need to be based on something that mental patients actually wear?
No of course not, what are you on about?
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on October 09, 2013, 07:06:32 PM
" The question of how much political correctness has improved the quality of life should not be answered by us straight white males who live our lives like a video game in permanent easy mode."
If it's true, then the evidence should be easy to find...
Lets assume there is guy, who is being called nigger all the time. Because he... well, is. But if for sake of some sort of manners, we'd choose not to call him nigger in every instance, I'm quite sure sure he'd be quite a bit happier?
It wouldn't probably change what people think of him, simply what they say and how they say it. This is of course the core of PC. Adjusting language, not adjusting the actual thought or cultural climate.
As there hardly is words that
really could insult white males (if there is some, and if it hurts ones feelings, I'm ready to question whether he
is white man).... well, see the quote.
I guess one could ask, do we really need evidence that bullying people results something negative?
Of course one could argue that in other hand, that this negative sometimes creates the unusually creative and innovative results.
For example, lets assume, if the white man was not there to oppress the black man, would we have the creative musical culture there is now? I'm pretty much confident that no. If one wants to thank the black for cultural contribution, we may as well applause the needed vital factors as oppression and slavery ;)
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on October 09, 2013, 09:15:39 PM
People not calling other people "nigger", etc. is a moral/cultural change rather than political. That's the way it should be rather than getting upset over Halloween costumes or stereotypes of movie characters.
People should be polite because it's the "right thing to do", not because government enforces it ("enforced politeness") or a special interest group is outraged over some minor bit of nonsense.
Should "forced politeness" be extended to music/books/film? Would someone be happier if Con-Dom wasn't allowed to jump on them & smear their face with paint (not a consensual act) or scream about "niggers still say, sir"? Censorship would improve the lives of people, right? Shutting down pornography would result in less sexual exploitation. No more Peter Sotos books; he uses the word "nigger" as much as the word "Cunt". There are lots of things people do not need to say or express.
Certainly not, but artists should at least be approaching their topic with a sense of personal responsibility for what they're saying, and to get their facts straight. Most of the time overall artistic merit can make a decent case for itself and, on balance, outweigh doubts but every now and again something completely ludicrous like these costumes will slip through the net and I think it's fair to call bullshit, especially when someone's in a position to make a large out of money from the fallout - to me, it's the "right thing to do" in this case. Kneejerk PC response is more of a hindrance than a help in these situations, just making meaningless noise and devaluing genuine views.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on October 09, 2013, 07:06:32 PM
ethical & moral correctness has made a bigger difference in the quality of lives rather than political correctness.
kudos - although I am only concerned about the use of both words - but I completely agree.
not calling your black neighbour nigger is not a political correct behaviour, is just being a reasonable civilised person I think - we should not even talking about this.
but once the "x" word (add any possible insult, feel free to use anti-Italian classics like bloody wop, fucking dago, etc.) comes out when you are describing a specific situation in a cultural concept, it is a completely different matter.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on October 09, 2013, 07:06:32 PM
So, anyone can just make up anything & it's a stereotype?
No that's not what I meant. Maybe you want stereotype to mean 'thing that's kind true but it's not PC to say it' but that's just not the case. It's very obvious in what sense these costumes were stereotypical 'psychopath' costumes and that doesn't really have to have any bearing on what any given real life mentally ill person wears or what real psychiatric hospital/prison garb is like to be stereotypical. That's the whole point.
No burglar ever dressed like this in the history of burgling but if you don't agree that it's a stereotypical image then I don't know what to say to you.
(http://www.abfab.co.uk/260x260/mens-burglar-fancy-dress-s38632.jpg)
Quotethink that ethical & moral correctness has made a bigger difference in the quality of lives rather than political correctness.
Prepare to have your mind blown:
the term 'Political Correctness' is, when used seriously, almost always a derogatory term for a given piece of ethical & moral correctness by those who are against it.QuoteCertainly not, but artists should at least be approaching their topic with a sense of personal responsibility for what they're saying, and to get their facts straight. Most of the time overall artistic merit can make a decent case for itself and, on balance, outweigh doubts but every now and again something completely ludicrous like these costumes will slip through the net and I think it's fair to call bullshit, especially when someone's in a position to make a large out of money from the fallout - to me, it's the "right thing to do" in this case. Kneejerk PC response is more of a hindrance than a help in these situations, just making meaningless noise and devaluing genuine views.
Very well said.
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on October 09, 2013, 07:49:53 PM
It wouldn't probably change what people think of him, simply what they say and how they say it. This is of course the core of PC. Adjusting language, not adjusting the actual thought or cultural climate.
This is beyond clueless, you are trying to attack political language without any idea what even makes it political or what effect it's intended to or does have. Tell Orwell and Burroughs that adjusting language doesn't adjust thought.
https://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/orwell46.htm - read that all of you.
Quote from: Cementimental on October 10, 2013, 01:10:56 AM
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on October 09, 2013, 07:49:53 PM
It wouldn't probably change what people think of him, simply what they say and how they say it. This is of course the core of PC. Adjusting language, not adjusting the actual thought or cultural climate.
This is beyond clueless, you are trying to attack political language without any idea what even makes it political or what effect it's intended to or does have.
I'm not trying to attack political language.
I'm showing my dislike and disgust to political correctness of modern western countries, and the politics what they represent.
Political correctness is a term that refers to language, ideas, or policies that address perceived or actual discrimination against or alienation of politically, socially or economically disadvantaged groups. The term usually implies that these social considerations are excessive or of a purely "political" nature. So what it means? In modern western world, judging people as persons stripped down from any cultural/gender/religious/... elements to be individual person, so they'd not be treated as... lets say "woman", but "person".
Yesterdays news: Some people have felt "old people" (vanhat ihmiset) can be offensive. Alternative offered for public use was "ikääntyneet ihmiset". Hard to say whether its literal translation to english ( "aged people" ) would be less offensive, hah.. perhaps "elderly people". Could be offensive to some? It's good example, that we know concept of young and old. We know the concept of man and woman. We know some may not want to fit and usage of language. We know it may be their disadvantage in some cases. To be known to be, what they are.
I rather believe in culture that evolves based on other ideals than this type of attempts to deconstruct or remove every characteristics in organic culture, as attempt to find imaginary harmony of "equal individuals".
So as mentioned before, I don't think one needs to praise and excessive use simply rude and distasteful language (i.e. Hal's example on previous page of "manly working environment", which could be seen less example of manly (heroic, sacrificial, conquering, creative,.. haha) than simply lowbrow common trash - no offense meant, haha!), but it seems utterly foolish to think near-criminalization of common words or ideas for sake of creating "equality" works out. If we see retards, it ain't going to be better by "mentally challenged". If we see inhumanly fat slob, it's not going to be any better by insisting to call that "weight challenged". In many cases the word is not changing what people think or see.
BUT overall, I certainly don't deny possibilities of language or political language to change world. Quite opposite!
To fit the true nature of topic, I could perhaps mention the good ol' RUMBA magazine what celebrated it's 30 years anniversary this month. Some issues ago when new Nick Cave album came out, there was long journalist writing about the album where writer had moral problems to accept the new Nick Cave album cover. ( here: http://www.nickcave.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Push-The-Sky-Away-PACKSHOT1-768x768.jpg )
He went on and on explaining how world has progressed so much, but these old disgusting pervs like mr. Cave insists the sexists woman abusing cover and writes songs about men lusting women, instead of talking about "persons". I mean, come on?! I thought I was reading Rock Magazine, not womens studies report? As if there something brutally incorrect about men having sexual feelings of WOMEN = Gender, instead of "persons" (that could be whatever gender, perhaps even moderately advanced other species if you fancy that..).
But then later on man explains the moment of revelation, when turns out the picture is just Cave's personal life. It's him, in his bedroom, with his wife on tiptoes walking to bathroom in morning. And suddenly it transformed to be warm, iconic and pleasant. And this author wrote about Cave in very similar way few times in magazine.
I recall another cultural magazine IMAGE has something quite similar. People being offended by "brute male interests" in album of this dinosaur of old times.
It's curious situation when men being sexually attracted to women, and expressing it through music, is offensive for writer of ROCK MAGAZINE ! In that IMAGE magazine I fully understand they would be insulted by such close minded bigotry.
"Political correctness is a term that refers to language, ideas, or policies that address perceived or actual discrimination against or alienation of politically, socially or economically disadvantaged groups. The term usually implies that these social considerations are excessive or of a purely "political" nature.
So what it means?"
Political Correctness is nothing more than the orthodoxy of the moment.It's purpose is to protect those views that are held sacrosanct.It's about as much use as a chocolate teapot.It's bollocks.
Fucking hell,you can't even have a laugh & make un-PC jokes in a part of the WWW specially designed for taking the piss out of PC Faggotry.....It's PC Faggotry gone mad!
You're all spastics....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5y-fKWIO7M (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5y-fKWIO7M)
Bernard Manning v Esther Rantzen:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0efKLMZmHVs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0efKLMZmHVs)
Quote from: Jimmy Gestapo on October 10, 2013, 11:37:01 AM
Fucking hell,you can't even have a laugh & make un-PC jokes in a part of the WWW specially designed for taking the piss out of PC Faggotry.....It's PC Faggotry gone mad!
Who says one can't? Can, and has. It just underlines one ugly fact:
It is the general view of many "anti-PC" people that there is some sort of birthright to able to be vulgar and that should be "defended" as most important qualities in man and necessity to behave is considered like violation of ones human rights.
While group of mens rights to talk trash about faggots hardly seems to be quality in men we need to applaud and support. Situation is very similar to the male-rights movements sobbing girliness.
Quote from: Jimmy Gestapo on October 10, 2013, 11:37:01 AM
Political Correctness is nothing more than the orthodoxy of the moment.It's purpose is to protect those views that are held sacrosanct
I don't believe real orthodoxy of moment need protection such as this PC faggotry often talked in this topic. It's not like there is a body of ideas that rightly thinking people think - problem is probably just the opposite:
People would like to hope there is one, but political correctness in modern form is here exactly because so vast amounts of people do not follow the "orthodoxy of moment" without
conscious efforts by all sorts of groups, organizations, media and state. To such extent that even if vast amount of people are indifferent or supportive of something, small group of soldiers of PC brigade know it better. And they will hammer the cause until it is firmly in place.
It is very much possible that this matter is seen differently in different countries. I recall Hitler concluding one of his responses towards British critic against totalitarian state politics, that despite seemingly more freedom in legislation, the British culture and habits were much more severely controlling each citizen. Of course this was said before shit hit the fan, so to say...
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on October 10, 2013, 09:20:00 AM
but it seems utterly foolish to think near-criminalization of common words or ideas for sake of creating "equality" works out. If we see retards, it ain't going to be better by "mentally challenged". If we see inhumanly fat slob, it's not going to be any better by insisting to call that "weight challenged". In many cases the word is not changing what people think or see.
There is a difference in using a word that has a heavy negative attachment to it and using a more "respectful" word. I can point your attention to the big guy in the corner and you will still know who I mean, without me degrading his physique. It doesn't change what you see, but it may change the way you perceive it.
Having said that, I am completely against all of this over the top forceful change of language that tries to create this unigender equality. It's unnecessary and just makes me listen the other way when I hear a debate coming along
That's what I said earlier. For sake on some manners, one doesn't need to be running his mouth constantly. And take pride of being all obnoxious just for sake of it. Most can behave and know where and how.
But again, I don't see need that someone would try to tell than morbidly fat people would be just "big". In case when needed, word fat really is suitable, not just "weight challenged". And even addressed directly to target what may need a wake up call or some kind of signal. I recall this one great Grunt youtube clip, where tag words were something like: "mikko", "grunt", "fat". HAHA!!!
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on October 10, 2013, 07:57:40 PM
I recall this one great Grunt youtube clip, where tag words were something like: "mikko", "grunt", "fat". HAHA!!!
Hahaha, and was it a wake up call?
I wish. Lifestyle changes only years later..
Someone should start a "PE Healthy Lifestyle" thread...
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on October 11, 2013, 09:20:53 PM
Someone should start a "PE Healthy Lifestyle" thread...
well there are all those veggie recipes in the cooking/food thread
noise is unhealty by definition :)
Quote from: ConcreteMascara on October 11, 2013, 10:57:54 PM
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on October 11, 2013, 09:20:53 PM
Someone should start a "PE Healthy Lifestyle" thread...
well there are all those veggie recipes in the cooking/food thread
I have a veggie/vegan cookbook called "Please Don't Feed The Bears" that pairs diy recipes with accompanying music suggestions, from punk to thrash to grindcore... a noise/PE equivalent could be interesting!
Some of that too, but I've eaten too many sausages, bacon and black pudding lately.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on October 12, 2013, 02:42:17 AM
I suck at healthy eating . I just end up being hungry & lacking energy so I just eat whatever I want in moderation. Eating more often is a pain in the ass, too. I'd rather just throw in an extra day of riding or something.
Back to PC crap:
http://reason.com/blog/2013/10/10/when-postage-stamps-are-too-dangerous-fo
Idiots think kids will not skateboard without safety gear if they don't see it depicted on a fucking stamp.
that shit is the worst I think, the playgrounds around here now have all super soft ground so if kids fall they don't get hurt. Children need to realize from a young age that life is pain or they will grow up too soft.
A week away and this place turns into troniks. Not that I'm overly active anymore but maybe a cull is in place? A PC fag cull! At least a humourless fag cull. At the very least.
Quote from: GEWALTMONOPOL on October 14, 2013, 03:52:30 PM
A week away and this place turns into troniks. Not that I'm overly active anymore but maybe a cull is in place? A PC fag cull! At least a humourless fag cull. At the very least.
A week away and all of us just absolutely got told by this industrial hero, who just appears to say some godlike one-liners with absolutely no relevant insight to anything.
Quote from: NEHPF on October 15, 2013, 06:35:01 PM
Quote from: GEWALTMONOPOL on October 14, 2013, 03:52:30 PM
A week away and this place turns into troniks. Not that I'm overly active anymore but maybe a cull is in place? A PC fag cull! At least a humourless fag cull. At the very least.
A week away and all of us just absolutely got told by this industrial hero, who just appears to say some godlike one-liners with absolutely no relevant insight to anything.
I agree that Mikko can be quite irritating with his incessant need to always be right but to say he has no insight is a tad unfair. He's not that bad.
Quote from: GEWALTMONOPOL on October 15, 2013, 07:02:44 PM
Quote from: NEHPF on October 15, 2013, 06:35:01 PM
Quote from: GEWALTMONOPOL on October 14, 2013, 03:52:30 PM
A week away and this place turns into troniks. Not that I'm overly active anymore but maybe a cull is in place? A PC fag cull! At least a humourless fag cull. At the very least.
A week away and all of us just absolutely got told by this industrial hero, who just appears to say some godlike one-liners with absolutely no relevant insight to anything.
I agree that Mikko can be quite irritating with his incessant need to always be right but to say he has no insight is a tad unfair. He's not that bad.
I was actually referring to you.
I know.
Quote from: GEWALTMONOPOL on October 15, 2013, 07:02:44 PM
Quote from: NEHPF on October 15, 2013, 06:35:01 PM
A week away and all of us just absolutely got told by this industrial hero, who just appears to say some godlike one-liners with absolutely no relevant insight to anything.
I agree that Mikko can be quite irritating with his incessant need to always be right but to say he has no insight is a tad unfair. He's not that bad.
I'm always semi-ready to be proven otherwise. Most often waiting relevant arguments, if none comes, then it's possible that I may have not been wrong.
Language barrier may be one thing. Not sure why Hal would "lose it", by me stating that workplace what he described wouldn't appear to me as much manly than simply lowbrow trash? It wouldn't comment him or his message, but nature of some semi-imaginary workplace he described.
I mean, as said, one can say and has said and laughed at "pc faggotry", but throughout thread of 55 pages, at some point, is perhaps necessary to remind what political correctness is according to it's usage other than similar way like commies use for "nazis". There is group of people who call everything they dislike or find repulsive under one term.
I think there is plenty of words if one just wants to talk about goofy, weird, amusing, etc.. I already suggested before maybe topic should be just "General butthurt" and I'm sure all messages will fit in just perfect, hah...
Anyways, back on topic perhaps? Either cases of general butthurt, or discussing of nature of PC...
I follow Mikko's suggestion with a cult:
Actress who posed for glamour shots and movies turns against Tesco for selling "sexist" magazine and wears a fantastic shirt that is already classic.
http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2013/oct/13/lads-mags-problem-romola-garai
"23 stitches in my vagina"
How industrial.
Jews and Chinese food :
http://streetcarnage.com/blog/jews-and-chinese-food/ (http://streetcarnage.com/blog/jews-and-chinese-food/)
GERMAN RAPE STATUE LEADS TO OUTRAGE, CONFUSION, LAUGHTER:
http://streetcarnage.com/blog/german-rape-statue-leads-to-outrage-confusion-laughter/
GERMANS: ARE THEY HUMAN?
http://streetcarnage.com/blog/open-season-on-germans/
School for pricesses opens door to men
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/25/swiss-finishing-school-men
Lou Reed Interview : "Interview With A Dead Asshole"
http://streetcarnage.com/blog/interview-with-a-dead-asshole/ (http://streetcarnage.com/blog/interview-with-a-dead-asshole/)
So yesterday I noticed a poster, inviting to film festival. The poster is below. It says Europeans suck Africans. The idea is how Europeans are using Africans almost as slaves and take all their money from these countries. What?? Of course there will be movies about Pussy Riot etc. (about these I still don't understand why are they so cool for most of the westerners.) Mainly human rights oriented stuff. I guess the only way to show how you are pro human rights is by bowing your head and self-indulgence. Anyways, gave me a thought or two.
(http://oi39.tinypic.com/28kkh3n.jpg)
Oh, there's nothing like a bit of self-flagellation to make one feel holier-than-thou.
Of course there is no question whether African is being abused - not only be "europeans", but just about everybody. Question would remain should one feel at all guilty of things. And if this feeling guilty transfer to actual lifestyle changes or changes in political beliefs. I believe not. Invite few immigrants and give little money to charity, but otherwise -> business as usual.
well, I'm not sure about Africans being abused by everyone, but I'm pretty sure about such safest possible new left methods of "propaganda" (??) perhaps? What can be safer than fat white middle age man in a suit against thin poor black man in the t-shirt.
Perhaps this was the movie that inspired the poster: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1U-RlVDT-Y (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1U-RlVDT-Y)
Well, the CEO of the company, being mentioned in this movie is born in South African-Australian-Israeli, who has his business in Switzerland. Would Jews suck Africans work? i doubt that. It would go straight to court. well, these are some nice stereotypes in action.
I'm not sure about this thing of Africans being 'abused', either. What exactly is this abuse? Or, perhaps, one of the biggest abuses perpetrated on them is the 'giving some money to charity'. For example, the likes of Live Aid in the '80s saves millions of Ethiopians from starving so as we 'rich-but-guilty' white people can feel better about ourselves. 'We' may sin and indulge in excess, but at least we also 'helped'. Trouble is, as millions of extra people are left to breed, an even bigger famine is occurs down the line. A new generation of starving Africans, for a new generation of 'rich-but-guilty' westerners to wring their hands over. It's fine to vaccinate the first one or two children in a family, but after that the line should be drawn: the rest may take their chance. Some projections say there will be double the amount of people on earth by 2100. I'd imagine, at the rate we're going, that this is not sustainable - like growing a tree in a flowerpot.
However, I digress. Africa is an easy outlet for our guilt, because 'they' are so helpless, and - as I say - there's nothing like prostrating oneself to purge that guilt!
Quote from: burdizzo on October 30, 2013, 04:20:13 PM
I'm not sure about this thing of Africans being 'abused', either. What exactly is this abuse?
What is abuse?
"bad or improper treatment; maltreatment"
"a corrupt or improper practice or custom"
Back to history lessons? It's up to definition of course, but lets say: Centuries of natural resources taken for benefit of west, what still continues today? Where little if anything benefits locally, and everything benefits the few abusers and consumerist needs of west.
That west needs few local house niggers doesn't changing a thing. Every underdeveloped country out there is subject of abuse by those who feel entitled to conquer and remove anything of value for much less than they're worth and then leave.
There are plenty who find this as issue worth of even glorification. I feel that in such moment it's merely honest to admit abuse and conclude not giving a fuck. For whatever reason.
But yes, it's guaranteed that many of the charity programs have abusive element. Even as simple things like collecting used clothes to export for people in Africa has resulted damages for local clothing industry who can not operate in environment where people can choose whether support local industry or take free scraps from west. And next thing is being step deeper, when charity prevents local economy to even properly function.
Nowadays it appears to be largest concern that China is invading Africa. Perhaps soon the time of euro-guilt will be over as we'll join to be among slave-labor of new rising powers, hah! Of course it's unnecessary to put blame on single "europeans" who are just as victims of existing system as anyone.
Yes, one would think, but we live in world were governments are not the ones with most power.
In Finland we have situation with mining industry, which makes Finland appear like 3rd world country.
Foreign companies can come to Finland, get mining permit, and collect whatever valuables there are, with zero royalties paid for country itself. Even most of the worst 3rd world countries claim certain small % of market price. Over here, nothing. State lives under mantra of "employment". That every measure taken is good, if it creates few "jobs".
We can look Sweden, where state makes fortune out of mining industry. State of Finland decided to step back, and allow free market to take over. Any company, could abuse the out-dated legislation, make mess, collect profit, move out. Leave locals with polluted environment. All promised taxes of profit that company should make, disappeared in tax paradises. It has been widely acknowledged as drastic mistake, but there is no action to change how things are. One job today, seems more crucial than anything else.
If sort of semi-civilized, perhaps only mildly corrupted country as Finland is unable to prevent abuse, what would do country where nothing ever worked out? All legal. All business as usual, but one can't say it would not be abuse.
If specific African countries would get paid what they deserved for resources that are now takes half-free, it wouldn't necessary solve a shit. But at least one could tell outsiders don't abuse the country, shit happens for other reasons.
There often appears to be thinking that incoming immigrants are the problem. I agree to certain point, but I rather would point out reason why their previous life in homeland is so unbearable they need to move out. I don't believe too many would absolutely insists moving in some shitty ghetto in western world, if one would have any sort of future in original country. To allow people have some sort of condition is not much of charity for them, but solving problem of ours (Of course, if you consider drastic changes in demographic as problem).
Well, yes, heh, heh!
Everyone knows there WAS abuse of Africa, but there's not so much NOW. At least, no more so that anywhere else, I'd say. In Ireland, today, foreign companies take natural resources and give little enough to the local community, but this is down to bad governance on the part of the Irish government.
As for the west needing a few 'house niggers' - well, I'm not so sure about that. Maybe, as I say, to assuage their guilt. But why feel guilty for something that went on yeas ago? Why not just enjoy what you have, and not make yourself unhappy about it!?
As for the last point, about China 'invading' Africa: isn't it funny that under these climate-change protocols, the 'developing countries' get to pollute more, on the grounds that, 'well, they didn't do it so much in the past, so now they get a chance to catch up'? By same logic, China ought to get a go at abusing Africa - after all, she didn't do it when we Europeans were at it?! Hah!
By the way, it seems a lot of Europeans would relish being slaves to the new rising powers - at least until it happens!!
I would think this forum perhaps only need "Rape Africa" topic?
I guess the usual "left" and "right" solutions are that left wants to aid people by systematic organization, right want to put people in position where they can help themselves. I consider both attempts to be failure if standard is measured how western they can become. Attempt to impose our culture, equality and human rights issues into place where they may not belong.
Aren't we the benchmark for civilisation?!
I jest.
But, isn't that one of humanity's age-old problems: everyone wants everyone else to be more like them!?
I think this only happened when the old style concept of us and them has been attempted to be discarded. Perhaps moment where discussion can be linked back to "political correctness" ;)
Moment when there are others, there hardly remains need to aim to be alike.
I suppose - political correctness is an attempt to equalise everyone. Fair enough.
article taken from linkedin
Politically Incorrect?
We took our youngest to Fort Collins to watch his brother play in the state marching band finals last Saturday. (They took third in the state: go Fairview Marching Knights!) It was a glorious fall day. On the way home we stopped for Mexican food and I said to my eleven-year-old, "They call this Indian summer."
No sooner had we arrived home than my daughter, twenty years old and a junior in college, texted me. "Story idea for you: Indian summer," said her text. "Evidently not PC."
I jumped on Google to do some research. I found a lot of questions: "Is 'Indian summer' an offensive term?" but no clear answers.
If "Indian summer" falls under the Political Correctness sword, I thought, it won't be long before Polish sausage, Chinese checkers and Russian roulette follow. And what about Greek yogurt? These would be very sad developments.
People are surprised when they learn that I'm an avid non-fan of the Political Correctness craze. "You're so pro-people," they say, "I figured you'd be all over that stuff." That's the problem with the buckets and categories we love to lump people, words and ideas into. They never capture the story.
I am horrified as an American to contemplate, much less tell my children about, the abysmal treatment of minorities in our country's history, from the native Americans the European settlers displaced and slaughtered to the national shame of legal slavery on American soil.
I'm saddened and disgusted by the treatment of Japanese-Americans during World War II and by the awful way other minority groups are treated in the US even today.
Banning words and ideas is not the way to right those old wrongs. Shaming people is the worst way to teach anything, and beyond that, updating a lexicon by force is not the path to enlightenment.
When we teach diversity workshops, we ask participants to send us questions they'd like answered in advance, so they don't have to ask them aloud in class. Their fear of saying or doing the wrong things is threaded through their questions. "What exactly constitutes sexual harassment?" men want to know. "I'm afraid to give a woman a compliment, in case I'm hauled into HR." Every time I hear that sentiment, I'm reminded that making people afraid to talk to one another is not the way to build community.
We should be digging into and dissecting human situations all the time, not telling people what horrible fate will befall them if they step across the invisible fault line we've never bothered to point out.
We need more conversation about race, gender and ethnicity at work, not less! We need more trust and less fear around these sticky human topics. Chastising people for choosing the wrong phrase or using an expression like Indian summer in the absence of any malice is the world's worst way to build bridges.
On Tuesday we got a call from an HR leader at a Human Workplace company who'd had a scrape with the Indian summer issue herself. Someone in one of the plants she looks after had sent out a memo that used the phrase "Indian summer" in the same manner I explained the concept to my son. Someone else had objected.
"The employee told me that she doesn't have Native American ancestry herself but that she was offended that we would use the term in a company newsletter," the HR chief explained. We put out the question to our panel of Human Workplace correspondents, none of whom had heard an objection to the term 'Indian summer' before.
"It doesn't surprise me that 'Indian summer' would go under the chopping block,' wrote one panelist. "Which term will be next?"
Here's what's next, evidently: a campaign that seeks to end the wearing of culturally-themed Halloween costumes, following the logic that reducing a national culture to a costume is demeaning. I wrote this article when the issue hit my radar screen, and this year I'm even more dismayed by the misguided and very un-human effort to get people to stop dressing up like Pocahontas and Madame Butterfly on Halloween or, I'm presuming, any other day of the year.
If it's de facto offensive to dress up as Pocahontas, is it likewise politically incorrect to spend a weekend in Santa Fe and while there, grab some Southwestern boots and a broomstick skirt? What about the custom of wearing something green on St. Patrick's day? Is that a cultural slur against the Irish?
If Irish-Americans decided to freak out because a sacred day borrowed from their heroic past (which is a Culture, not a Drunken Holiday) had been reduced to an excuse to wear green and get hammered, whole industries would implode.
In my long experience teaching people about diversity and inclusion, wagging a finger in their faces and telling them what NOT to do is the worst possible way to build understanding.
Tolerance grows when there are no bad guys or good guys in the mix, just ordinary people muddling through unfamiliar territory together and feeling comfortable asking "What's your take?" of one another.
Campaigns like "Culture, not a Costume" shame and castigate people for their transgressions instead of opening a dialog about our vast common ground as humans and expanding on it to build awareness and, over time, community.
If my daughter were seven instead of twenty, I'd love to buy her a Pocahontas costume and explain the history of Native Americans in the process. Should I be forbidden to buy the outfit? and if I am, how does that help my Native American brothers and sisters?
We know that shoving rules in people's faces never raises their consciousness. It does just the opposite. People given rules to follow begrudgingly oblige, learning nothing in the process. We get the phone calls every day.
"My Marketing Manager used an ice-breaker in our management retreat that caused mayhem," says a distressed HR VP. "What was the ice-breaker?" we asked. "Horoscopes," said the HR leader. "She had mini-horoscopes created for each of our leaders, a cute idea except that she read the horoscopes aloud in the meeting and included each executive's birth year. No one was pleased. Two VPs got up and walked out."
That Marketing manager surely knew the published rules in her company. Unfortunately no one had written up the rule "Don't mention your colleagues' ages or birth years," no doubt assuming that it went without saying. As a society we teach people at work to see tiny patches of tree bark when we should be teaching them to navigate the forest. Cultural awareness is forest-learning, not tree-bark, rule-based stuff. Banning words and costumes won't raise awareness, but it's guaranteed to arouse resentment. Will that resentment help build tolerance and community, or hinder it?
Find your employee handbook's Diversity Statement, which is likely to read like this: "At Acme Explosives, we are committed to diversity. Absolutely no discrimination of any kind will be tolerated and any discriminatory actions will get your ass fired in a New York minute."
We know better than to expect open communication, the kind that would build trust and minimize problems, in an environment whose standards are framed that way: Screw Up and You're Toast.
We could educate people about culture and acceptance instead of telling them which words we don't want to hear and which costumes we won't allow them to wear on Halloween, but that wouldn't give us the cozy holier-than-thou feeling we get when we stand in judgment on people who are less Politically Aware than we are. That's not a solution. It's just more Godzilla machinery, lefty-flavored but no less insidious and damaging than the rest of the strictures that keep us from bringing ourselves to work all the way.
Halloween, like any holiday, is special because we're lifted out of the humdrum everyday. The costumes we wear are part of the ritual and the theatre of this day. This is what culture is - the experience of sharing the everyday routines and the punctuating holidays and festivals that break the rhythm and lift us into the realm of myth. That's why people dress up as geishas and Native American warriors on Halloween.
Culture is what makes us human, and any effort to teach understanding must begin from the place "None of us is right or wrong on this topic, and every word and any action must be viewed in context."
We're all trying to get through the day, no little feat in these challenging times. Can we put aside the wagging finger and the "Don't you dare" memes and encourage more meaty conversation about sticky human topics like race, gender and national origin, remembering that unless the energy is positive and accepting of all who join the conversation, no progress is possible? I think we are capable of that. Political Correctness is no doubt well-intended, but it's not a human solution. Company policy and Don't You Dare campaigns are not the answer, but honest, open and non-judgmental conversation most surely is.
Our company is called Human Workplace. Our mission is to reinvent work for people.
http://www.linkedin.com/today/post/article/20131031064119-52594-politically-incorrect
'THE GREAT SATAN AT LARGE':
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IADb6kWjugI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IADb6kWjugI)
More Asda mental patient costume news: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/the-asda-nazi-man-kicked-out-of-supermarket-for-browsing-aisles-dressed-in-full-nazi-ss-uniform-8917517.html
http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/News/SLIDESHOW-Inside-the-home-of-Paul-Dutton-the-man-who-wore-a-Nazi-SS-uniform-to-go-shopping-at-Asda-in-Cambridge-20131101154707.htm
His very unusual website is http://www.operation-failsafe.com/
Quote from: HongKongGoolagong on November 01, 2013, 07:08:24 PM
His very unusual website is http://www.operation-failsafe.com/
now that, is a piece of work...
stupidest thing I have read in months
http://www.thelocal.no/20131104/norways-nrk-bans-newsreader-from-wearing-a-cross
Quote from: Si Clark on November 04, 2013, 01:02:51 AM
Wah, wah, wah, life's not fair
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/nov/01/heidi-klum-halloween-costume-old-woman
So fucking pathetic:
"No, the problem for me is that it feels frankly insulting to quick fix a look that most of us are working hard to achieve over several decades. I'm not joking – take pride in the battle scars life leaves. Lines, wrinkles, veins, scars are all badges of survival – signs of a life lived. How dare Heidi Klum make light of that."
A look that most of us are working hard to achieve? Yes, I am trying very hard in my youth to look like a weak, pathetic, brittle mess of flesh when I get older. Can anyone see a byline; who wrote this piece of shit? I want to see what this idiot looks like, if s/he looks anything close to the wasting corpse aesthetic they are championing. Let's face it, aged people are disgusting. They do not look good. They are DYING. They are the closest to death, and they show it. That is not something to be proud of, but this zealot makes it seem as though it is honorable to do nothing if not sit idly by and do nothing, so long as one ages since spider veins and loose flesh are signs of, uh, victory or something.
Quote from: simulacrum on November 15, 2013, 04:38:43 PM
Quote from: Si Clark on November 04, 2013, 01:02:51 AM
Wah, wah, wah, life's not fair
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/nov/01/heidi-klum-halloween-costume-old-woman
So fucking pathetic:
"No, the problem for me is that it feels frankly insulting to quick fix a look that most of us are working hard to achieve over several decades. I'm not joking – take pride in the battle scars life leaves. Lines, wrinkles, veins, scars are all badges of survival – signs of a life lived. How dare Heidi Klum make light of that."
A look that most of us are working hard to achieve? Yes, I am trying very hard in my youth to look like a weak, pathetic, brittle mess of flesh when I get older. Can anyone see a byline; who wrote this piece of shit? I want to see what this idiot looks like, if s/he looks anything close to the wasting corpse aesthetic they are championing. Let's face it, aged people are disgusting. They do not look good. They are DYING. They are the closest to death, and they show it. That is not something to be proud of, but this zealot makes it seem as though it is honorable to do nothing if not sit idly by and do nothing, so long as one ages since spider veins and loose flesh are signs of, uh, victory or something.
haha amazing ... I don't think I have ever met that many people that are really like working hard on turning into old bags of shit. It just sort of happens as far as I understand
Un-PC shenanigans on Instagram
http://www.vice.com/alps/read/25-hashtags-die-du-an-holocaust-gedenksttten-nicht-verwenden-solltest
#treblinka #swag
#yolocaust
Oh my god. Dying at #yolocaust and #instacaust.
#mauthausen #smile #girl #cool #look #follow4follow
I've really learned to stop getting upset at the steep downward trajectory of human progess/decline because of stuff like this. In the internet, everything is beautiful.
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/nov/21/croatia-josip-simunic-fined-pro-nazi-chants
BON APETIT!
Chinese eat human baby for health and sexual performance. Article is a bit misleading. It is actually stills from a art project / performance by the Chinese artists Zhu Yu and a supposed performance piece w cannibalistic frame.
http://demyx.com/blog/view/11140/chinese-eat-human-baby-for-health-and-sexual-performance#.UovYWNZZ-Z0.facebook (http://demyx.com/blog/view/11140/chinese-eat-human-baby-for-health-and-sexual-performance#.UovYWNZZ-Z0.facebook)
Here's some of the least PC humor I've seen in a while...
http://www.somethingawful.com/photoshop-phriday/star-wars-911/1/ (http://www.somethingawful.com/photoshop-phriday/star-wars-911/1/)
http://largelabiaproject.org/ (http://largelabiaproject.org/)
Quote from: ConcreteMascara on December 02, 2013, 05:45:08 PM
Here's some of the least PC humor I've seen in a while...
http://www.somethingawful.com/photoshop-phriday/star-wars-911/1/ (http://www.somethingawful.com/photoshop-phriday/star-wars-911/1/)
laughing out loud in my class right now, I had to close this link before any asked what was so funny
Some Croatians in France overreact to senile burblings from Bob Dylan - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-25195335 - ironically I think he meant to say Serbs.
http://entertainment.slashdot.org/story/13/12/04/1225209/app-detects-neo-nazis-using-their-music?utm_source=rss1.0moreanon&utm_medium=feed
This was posted in some finnish forums. One would guess if there are some standard old school RAC and it recognizes songs mainly by melody/riff patterns, the usual 3 chord "oi" would be kind of hard to really detect what band it exactly is when riffs of so many bands are the same?
Oh please!!!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2518194/Pro-Infirmis-advert-creates-mannequins-based-bodies-disabled-people.html
This has gotta be the dumbest thing I have seen for a long while... The level of faggotness is unbearable!
"Pro Infirmis, a Swiss organisation for people with disabilities, wanted to raise awareness that no one has a perfect body"
Fucking waaaaaaaah. The idea of a "perfect body" is, to the misfortune of their useless cause, altogether subjective. This is obvious, something no one needs to be told. We've all known for a very long fucking time that not every body at least has a unanimously good/desirable body. Get over it. Those people are born with genetic defects. Wow great now I can know how an outfit would look on me if I were 3' 10", hunchbacked and had my hands and arms curled by cerebral palsy.
I wouldn't give a shit either way, but it would not be as annoying if they came at it from the angle of, "Well, we just wanted to make some of these people feel a little empowered," because, you know, I'm sure they all feel sexually undesirable, unwanted and ugly. Instead they go about it like, "HEY GUESS WHAT, YOU OVERPRIVILEGED JUDGMENTAL IDIOTS?! NOT EVERYBODY HAS A PERFECT BODY!!!!! LOOK AT THIS MANNEQUIN WITH SCOLIOSIS. NOW YOU KNOW."
http://rabble.ca/columnists/2013/12/prostituted-words-time-new-style-guide
Here is the table of the new words we should all be using:
(http://rabble.ca/sites/rabble/files/resize/node-images/arthur_table-413x437.jpg)
so if I say I am a marketing manager people will think I am a pimp?
in the meantime
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/355062/Boy-suspended-from-school-for-firing-PRETEND-bow-and-arrow
http://comunicazionedigenere.wordpress.com/
Blog against homophobia, sexism and 'all' the discriminations, very PC oriented! Unofrtunately only in italian language.
Quote from: tiny_tove on December 10, 2013, 11:19:22 AM
so if I say I am a marketing manager people will think I am a pimp?
in the meantime
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/355062/Boy-suspended-from-school-for-firing-PRETEND-bow-and-arrow
I feel like the punishment was justified. The kid was obviously getting comfortable with the thought of coming to school with a real bow strapped on his back with a quiver of actual arrows with REAL tips on them. Who knows how close they all were to being victims of a school arching.
Quote from: Nil By Mouth on December 10, 2013, 06:50:50 PM
http://comunicazionedigenere.wordpress.com/
Blog against homophobia, sexism and 'all' the discriminations, very PC oriented! Unofrtunately only in italian language.
comments are impressive.
Thanks Aldo, these blogs are lke por nography to me. Perfect.
excellent piece:
http://www.ruthlessreviews.com/19628/fuck-liberal-puritans-ted-rall-racism-trial/
from the Balkans
http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/article/macedonia-albanians-sue-over-bronze-serbian-tsar
In reply to HongkKongGoolagong's post about mental patient Halloween costumes, have you ever checked out this blog: http://mrda.wordpress.com ???
It's one of my favorites, by a melanite, no less, and if the WP/WN contingent here can over look that little fact, it should be of much interest to them, especially in relation to this thread, as well.
I've not had a functional computer for months, and my phone sucks for forums. I'll comment on a bunch of things in a week or so. Specifically the NA thread, which has some relevance here.
It took me a really long time to write this.
it's really a pity that this can't be understandable by non italian readers. very social pornography!
http://espresso.repubblica.it/foto/2013/12/12/galleria/violenza-sulle-donne-la-campagna-shock-1.145988#1
http://mankindproject.org/ (http://mankindproject.org/)
I am very confused at the moment. These people are "the new macho". And this is their manifesto. At first it was funny to read, but then somehow it become quite sad. This is not new so maybe it was mentioned somewhere here before too
The New Macho
He cleans up after himself.
He cleans up the planet.
He is a role model for young men.
He is rigorously honest and fiercely optimistic.
He holds himself accountable.
He knows what he feels.
He knows how to cry and he lets it go.
He knows how to rage without hurting others.
He knows how to fear and how to keep moving.
He seeks self-mastery.
He's let go of childish shame.
He feels guilty when he's done something wrong.
He is kind to men, kind to women, kind to children.
He teaches others how to be kind.
He says he's sorry.
He stopped blaming women or his parents or men for his pain years ago.
He stopped letting his defenses ruin his relationships.
He stopped letting his penis run his life.
He has enough self respect to tell the truth.
He creates intimacy and trust with his actions.
He has men that he trusts and that he turns to for support.
He knows how to roll with it.
He knows how to make it happen.
He is disciplined when he needs to be.
He is flexible when he needs to be.
He knows how to listen from the core of his being.
He's not afraid to get dirty.
He's ready to confront his own limitations.
He has high expectations for himself and for those he connects with.
He looks for ways to serve others.
He knows he is an individual.
He knows that we are all one.
He knows he is an animal and a part of nature.
He knows his spirit and his connection to something greater.
He knows future generations are watching his actions.
He builds communities where people are respected and valued.
He takes responsibility for himself.
In times of need, he will be his brother's keeper.
He knows his higher purpose.
He loves with fierceness.
He laughs with abandon, because he gets the joke. <--maybe this line is the key??
This is a picture of mature masculine, of healthy masculinity - it is one redefinition of masculinity for the 21st century. By no means is this list complete. You are welcome to come and add your gifts to this community
sounds like a p. cool dude
A mountain cemetery.
Everest graveyard.
http://om911.com/a-mountain-cemetery.html (http://om911.com/a-mountain-cemetery.html)
for everybody into Italians (and expats) slanderings
http://streetcarnage.com/blog/wearing-wopface-pretending-to-be-italian-even-when-you-are/
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-10-17/old-jewish-men-have-valuable-advice-for-miley-cyrus.html?cmpid=taboola.articles
(http://i.imgur.com/5qRGZwW.jpg)
Some people didn't like the Martin Luther King Day tweet Pornhub sent out:
http://twitchy.com/2014/01/20/ugh-pornhub-honors-martin-luther-king-with-tweet/
I am in tears
Haha, this made my day! :D
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2547322/Stop-killing-doves-Pope-criticised-animal-rights-groups-outdated-tradition-two-birds-attacked-released-Vatican-window.html
I mean, the whole bird thing was completely retarded to begin with but once again activists proves that they can be even more retarded...
this has been the funniest moment of the past 12 months and made me think about cro.mags'world peace
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/01/26/article-2546218-1AF8A5E500000578-66_634x435.jpg)
Sometime the savagery of the jungle helps to enrich the cultures of the west.......I just haven't seen it yet
http://www.myfoxchicago.com/story/24549893/gary-woman-admits-selling-baby-for-sex
?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBgMeunuviE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBgMeunuviE)
Take On Me by a-ha, North Korean Style
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/364365/Feminists-fury-at-pub-s-bag-a-slag-Valentine-s-Day-dating-bash
lol
feminist separatism makes always make me crack
http://www.brooklynvegan.com/archives/2014/02/pussy_riot_memb_2.html
hey just 2 let u know everyone in this thread inc cool peoples i know IRL: DUMB AS IMAGINABLE YO
rewall aembarrasments
dont even kno first thing about power elventctironics
BABIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
alos
most embarrasing thread of all noiseboards which is sayinf someting
bet y'all bitcoiners
DUMBNBB
To clarify: you appear foolish because of the texts which you have submitted to a "message board" on the "internet" relating to nonsensical pseudo-political viewpoints expressed using substandard levels of logic and grammar in the context of 'noise' 'music'.
U INVEST IN BITCOIN AS DOES UR MUM
IDIOTS, KEYBOARD WARRIORS SO THEY CHAT STUFF
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5oUAU06zmY
Discounts on alcohol and drugs legalized in UK?
BROKEN BRITAIN :D
lol!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4UWxlVvT1A#t=564
more
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/norway/10630820/Scandinavian-media-flock-to-disarmament-of-fermented-herring-tin.html
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/8565bdf63836cd50de8217f09cf6ade1/tumblr_n0yc4s1AfE1tptz66o1_1280.jpg)
Femen militants thank Bomber harris for the Dresden massacre. Quite un-pc for being pc.
Probably some "Antideutsch" commos just getting their tits out? Femen usually don't mask up, do they?
We need more protests comprised of naked women refuting their commodification and designation as sexual objects by painting slogans over their curvy stomachs and stretching their arms overhead and perking their breasts to bring attention to signs held reading some hoo-hah about this or that important issue or, like, whatever.
Funny you should say that -
http://theconversation.com/protest-in-the-21st-century-is-naked-the-new-balaclava-22303 (http://theconversation.com/protest-in-the-21st-century-is-naked-the-new-balaclava-22303)
Quote from: simulacrum on February 17, 2014, 04:30:39 AM
We need more protests comprised of naked women refuting their commodification and designation as sexual objects by painting slogans over their curvy stomachs and stretching their arms overhead and perking their breasts to bring attention to signs held reading some hoo-hah about this or that important issue or, like, whatever.
A++
"Basic Finns" party in finnish parliament (one of the large ones, populist center) took box of liquorice as election candy. Leftwing party make fuzz about it calling the it racist. Box says something like: "you get what you paid for". Other side has the usual liquorice character in it.
It's kind of amusing to see that while there are quite important things happening in domestic politics, the climate is nowadays all about cheapest and most retarded openings & perhaps even more retarded comebacks.
(http://uutiset.perussuomalaiset.fi/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2014/02/lakritsa_2329_matias-640x320.jpg)
In situation like this, one could say basic finns that "yeah, really?", but when you see the media & political reaction, reaction would be even more annoyed.
last year in Italy has been the same... creating urgencies and asking for laws that are already existing while economy, work, etc was going down the drain.
Quote from: tiny_tove on February 16, 2014, 11:16:55 PM
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/8565bdf63836cd50de8217f09cf6ade1/tumblr_n0yc4s1AfE1tptz66o1_1280.jpg)
Femen militants thank Bomber harris for the Dresden massacre. Quite un-pc for being pc.
I'm usually okay with, and sometimes very pro-femen, especially their religious actions, but the Dresden bombing killed 25,000-100,000 civilians (David Irving has dug up some support for the higher number he included in later editions of his book on the subject) and I really don't see how bombing noncombatants and POWs can be possibly seen as an antifascist action. Those girls should read Vonnegut.
On the topic of the masks, I find them quite attractive, and though it is the typical facial adornment in the antifa movement, it could well be a move by hostile parties to discredit them. I'm probably wrong, and I'm sure that many people think that the firebombing of Dresden was some sort of heroic deed, but I'd like to think that people see it (and other allied bombing campaigns on non-military targets) for what it was: A travesty.
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on February 17, 2014, 01:57:14 PM
Funny you should say that -
http://theconversation.com/protest-in-the-21st-century-is-naked-the-new-balaclava-22303 (http://theconversation.com/protest-in-the-21st-century-is-naked-the-new-balaclava-22303)
Nude knitting???????????????????????????????????????????????
Goddammit, I just want to live in a police state where this kind of shit is not tolerated.
http://english.pravda.ru/society/stories/20-08-2013/125440-femen-0/ (http://english.pravda.ru/society/stories/20-08-2013/125440-femen-0/)
it's ok to show your tits for a few thousand bucks. Once I showed mine for a beer.
pussy riot vs cossacks 0 : 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivT-I-yxtdY#t=116
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/world-cup-2014-brazil-asks-3183805
http://noisemuzakreview.blog.com/2014/03/02/cementimental-a-snapshot-of-london-noise-2014/ :D
Quote from: Cementimental on March 02, 2014, 11:13:33 PM
http://noisemuzakreview.blog.com/2014/03/02/cementimental-a-snapshot-of-london-noise-2014/ :D
Oh the drama! Fuck em if they can't take a joke. Dignified response.
"What am I to do? Mother neglected. Women rejected. Men are just a thing to stand near. In my life all I have is the goof, the real is a colourful Nagasaki rainbow on the Cartoon Network . "
respect.
I wish I'd have written that perfect parody of his word-salad style but actually he just edited my comment. :D
amazing scenes.
What the fuck did I just read?! Haha. Had this shit not passed by? Doesn't seem to be anything "new" in his words, seems he wishes to perpetuate his own nonsense presumably because everyone forgot about it?
Indeed. I'd mostly been just ignoring him for months but apparently he was still stewing away.
Funny that most of the examples he posts of work by Tim Drage in the London noise scene in 2014 were done partly or entirely by other members of Cementimental, in South Wales, in 2002. :D
Jeez tim get over it. It's not even PC faggotry, it's London art faggotry. You are really trying to get this article out there aren't you? I haven't even spammed it yet :) like over a thousand hits and counting haha. Thank you.
It's nothing.
I think I'm friending you on every forum possible. :)
Friending is more of a Facebook thing
Forums are dead anyway
At the end of in a month filled for me with death, heartbreak, crisis and emotional turmoil the above spat came as light relief indeed. Thanks for the chuckles. (http://i57.tinypic.com/10shbmx.jpg)
Genuinely glad to bring some amusement.
The gift keeps on giving elsewhere: http://drownedinsound.com/community/boards/social/4444662
Louis Vuitton business all round, tho I wouldn't necessarily recommend anyone bother to wade thru all that to be honest.
Please don't bring more of this drama to forum. Every noise related forum apparently is used for it already.
If messages of derogatory manner are being seen, I'll deleted and perhaps kick out if needed. I know its funny and amusing, but enough is enough.
I thought this thread was mostly all about laughing at drama on other sites but I get the point, I'll try not to in future, can't promise Kris won't obviously. :)
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/73258510/sad-pictures-for-children/posts
Ummmmmmmm, why does this thread suddenly say it was started by Brad? And, hey, Brad, get in touch next weekend. I owe you some beers.
Good retitle for a thread which has a mix of funny stuff, idiotic stuff and general display of confused sausage fest issues and masculinity in crisis. Respect to both GEWALTMONOPOL for starting this and to the thread's subverters.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-03-08/liberal-mp-sharman-stone-tells-party-to-embrace-female-quotas/5307646 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-03-08/liberal-mp-sharman-stone-tells-party-to-embrace-female-quotas/5307646)
For perspective - the "Liberal" party, the current Aust. government, are the equivalent of the Conservatives in the UK or the Republicans in the US.
PS - Happy International Women's Day -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEtw3XJoJrE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEtw3XJoJrE)
Quote from: HongKongGoolagong on March 08, 2014, 03:26:56 AM
Good retitle for a thread which has a mix of funny stuff, idiotic stuff and general display of confused sausage fest issues and masculinity in crisis. Respect to both GEWALTMONOPOL for starting this and to the thread's subverters.
I think new title is more accurate for most posts. Feel free to post:
-Examples of PC faggotry
-Examples of idiocy & overt sensitiveness going absurd
-Sausagefest issues
-etc.
Try to avoid:
-Personal insults / slander / shit throwing
-Scene gossip
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on March 08, 2014, 02:17:22 AM
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/73258510/sad-pictures-for-children/posts
Hilarious drama in the comments/complaints.
John Campbell is brilliant, I'm a big fan of his comics. I can't tell if he's genuinely having a huge public breakdown or if it's all a massive piece of performance art.
Quote from: Jordan on March 08, 2014, 02:28:16 AM
Ummmmmmmm, why does this thread suddenly say it was started by Brad? And, hey, Brad, get in touch next weekend. I owe you some beers.
Because any posts prior to mine were deleted, I guess. Do you mean the weekend it currently is, or the one a week from now?
insane that you found a 'castanet' link. that's my old home town's local news site.
last time i hung out on there was for the news of my short lived messing around / high school prom date getting murdered:
http://www.castanet.net/news/Kelowna/34313/Arrest-in-Gagnon-murder
http://www.castanet.net/news/Kelowna/50007/Killer-says-drug-dealers-owned-him
http://www.openculture.com/2014/03/publisher-places-a-politically-correct-warning-label-on-kants-critiques.html
This is what is actually, really, really, bad, about PC-ism.
You've got the fucking right to hate! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCtyJBazQGg)
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-03-24/brandis-defends-right-to-be-a-bigot/5341552 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-03-24/brandis-defends-right-to-be-a-bigot/5341552)
The most interesting analysis and conversation on the changes to the Racial Discrimination Act are here (http://www.crikey.com.au/2014/03/25/racial-discrimination-act-brandis-moves-to-amend-not-repeal-18c/).
UK: Man chops of his own arm w homemade guillotine.
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/03/28/article-2591485-1CA596C800000578-930_634x370.jpg)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2591485/Father-builds-guillotine-chops-hand-bid-end-years-agony-accident-left-pain-doctors-did-not-help-hurts.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2591485/Father-builds-guillotine-chops-hand-bid-end-years-agony-accident-left-pain-doctors-did-not-help-hurts.html)
Quote from: online prowler on March 28, 2014, 11:15:12 PM
UK: Man chops of his own arm w homemade guillotine.
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/03/28/article-2591485-1CA596C800000578-930_634x370.jpg)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2591485/Father-builds-guillotine-chops-hand-bid-end-years-agony-accident-left-pain-doctors-did-not-help-hurts.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2591485/Father-builds-guillotine-chops-hand-bid-end-years-agony-accident-left-pain-doctors-did-not-help-hurts.html)
Ahhhh lovely
stupidest article ever
"I couldn't get this published anywhere, so I'm posting it here. I think it's really worrying that there are so few places in which we can talk about artists' politics, even when they are actively dangerous."
http://joshhall.net/post/81578386910/fascism-and-colonialism-in-the-work-of-cut-hands-and
I cant even begin to comprehend how miserable that guys life must be.
QuoteIt is a simple principle ... women can do this; men cannot.
Quote from: tiny_tove on April 04, 2014, 12:51:54 PM]
"I couldn't get this published anywhere, so I'm posting it here. I think it's really worrying that there are so few places in which we can talk about artists' politics, even when they are actively dangerous."[/i]
It would be good to see
where he tried to get that published.
Wow! What a sap!
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on April 04, 2014, 03:15:42 PM
Quote from: tiny_tove on April 04, 2014, 12:51:54 PM]
"I couldn't get this published anywhere, so I'm posting it here. I think it's really worrying that there are so few places in which we can talk about artists' politics, even when they are actively dangerous."[/i]
It would be good to see where he tried to get that published.
one of the orphans of whomakesthepanties
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/ca/Stuffed_ebola.jpg/328px-Stuffed_ebola.jpg)
cute
I got some of thes eat my gf's
"Far-right German porn star sacked as face of neo-Nazi party because she made film with a black man now banned by porn industry... because she is a neo-Nazi"
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2591438/Porn-star-Kitty-Blair-sacked-German-neo-Nazi-party-banned-porn-industry.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2591438/Porn-star-Kitty-Blair-sacked-German-neo-Nazi-party-banned-porn-industry.html)
The Guardian's punditry is a wellspring of the kind of wishy-washy "cultural" hand-wringing that has made turned the Left into the current, irrelevant joke it is. Nearly every issue contains some kind of sook over something so irrelevant even its readers can't believe it. This morning's edition had this right in the middle of the screen -
http://www.theguardian.com/film/2014/apr/06/repressed-brits-evil-mexicans-arab-villains-hollywood-animated-movies-stereotypes (http://www.theguardian.com/film/2014/apr/06/repressed-brits-evil-mexicans-arab-villains-hollywood-animated-movies-stereotypes)
"Photographer captures (sickening) portraits of interracial couples"
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2598343/Americas-melting-pot-pictures-Photographer-captures-heartwarming-portraits-interracial-couples.html
My reaction when I spotted this: http://youtu.be/insiC509HH0?t=5s
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/miami-woman-charged-animal-torture-porn-fetish-case-article-1.1748320
Quote from: hkso on April 08, 2014, 05:19:50 PM
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/miami-woman-charged-animal-torture-porn-fetish-case-article-1.1748320
lol damn
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on April 12, 2014, 12:05:54 AM
http://thelibertarianrepublic.com/feminists-steal-mens-cash-bait-hitting-vending-machine-call-violence-video/#axzz2yVbST2VZ
http://youtu.be/PDBZYCR0Xjk
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on April 08, 2014, 08:27:09 PM
I guess PETA patrols the dark net for "barnyard snuff porn"?
I remember reading about a previous similar case which was mentioned on here. In one of the articles it talked about PETA having a small division of hacker type people that look out for stuff like this an expose the people behind it. That case involved a black dominatrix, last I read the couple were going to get off because they were arguing they had a right of freedom of expression. No idea what the outcome was.
http://www.eutimes.net/2009/06/germany-and-eu-to-legalize-pedophilia-and-with-it-child-pornography-as-well/
QuoteAnother product of the BZgA is a song book aimed at children of four and slightly older which includes several songs espousing masturbation. The song-book entitled "Nose, belly and bum" includes one song with the following lyrics: "When I touch my body, I discover what I have. I have a vagina, because I am a girl. Vagina is not only for peeing. When I touch it, I feel a pleasant tingle."
1000 points for the 1st person to use this in a track.
Quote from: Leewar on April 14, 2014, 12:21:09 AM
http://www.eutimes.net/2009/06/germany-and-eu-to-legalize-pedophilia-and-with-it-child-pornography-as-well/
QuoteAnother product of the BZgA is a song book aimed at children of four and slightly older which includes several songs espousing masturbation. The song-book entitled "Nose, belly and bum" includes one song with the following lyrics: "When I touch my body, I discover what I have. I have a vagina, because I am a girl. Vagina is not only for peeing. When I touch it, I feel a pleasant tingle."
1000 points for the 1st person to use this in a track.
boy if only this were true. the "EU times" is a propaganda '"news" website run by the wife of a guy in volksfront.
Quote from: Scat-O-Logy on April 08, 2014, 08:16:34 AM
"Photographer captures (sickening) portraits of interracial couples"
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2598343/Americas-melting-pot-pictures-Photographer-captures-heartwarming-portraits-interracial-couples.html
My reaction when I spotted this: http://youtu.be/insiC509HH0?t=5s
I'm pretty sure this belongs in the General Bigotry & WN Faggotry thread, no? Taking photos of a rare-ish social group doesn't seem like PC totalitarianism to me, anyhow.
Really, until recently, those photos would have been 100% politically INCORRECT.
EDIT: I get it now, you're generally butthurt about the photos. Sorry, I misread that.
Quote from: l.b. on April 14, 2014, 09:24:17 PM
Quote from: Leewar on April 14, 2014, 12:21:09 AM
http://www.eutimes.net/2009/06/germany-and-eu-to-legalize-pedophilia-and-with-it-child-pornography-as-well/
QuoteAnother product of the BZgA is a song book aimed at children of four and slightly older which includes several songs espousing masturbation. The song-book entitled "Nose, belly and bum" includes one song with the following lyrics: "When I touch my body, I discover what I have. I have a vagina, because I am a girl. Vagina is not only for peeing. When I touch it, I feel a pleasant tingle."
1000 points for the 1st person to use this in a track.
boy if only this were true. the "EU times" is a propaganda '"news" website run by the wife of a guy in volksfront.
Thats felled my wood.
Finnish people have die hard guts and are crazy. The stereotype is confirmed here:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/18/toblerone-hijack_n_5171762.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/18/toblerone-hijack_n_5171762.html)
http://www.theguardian.com/music/musicblog/2014/apr/24/avril-lavignes-hello-kitty-and-other-terrible-music-videos
this crappy video from ex loli icon Avril Lavigne is causing a lot of stir
Vile stuff
I don't get it!
I know comic book fans are supposed to be anally retentive, but Christ...
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=52103 (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=52103)
Con-Dom cancelled @ Hamburg
https://www.facebook.com/events/259671324196249/?source=3&source_newsfeed_story_type=regular&fref=nf (https://www.facebook.com/events/259671324196249/?source=3&source_newsfeed_story_type=regular&fref=nf)
the reds saw the cover of a 1986 tape and shit their pants....
(maybe events like this a worth their own topic, it seems more relevants than ever)
http://womenreactingtoharshnoise.tumblr.com/ (http://womenreactingtoharshnoise.tumblr.com/)
QuoteHere's the deal: I'm a woman (in the avatar pic, on the left) and I think that women's presence at harsh noises shows is a. important and b. interesting given that noise is the most overwhelming male musical subculture I have ever experienced, not that that's inherently bad or anything—just sayin. I think it's important to show that there are women at noise shows both listening and performing and I think it's interesting to show a range of women's reactions from enjoyment to skepticism because really sometimes you dudes need some perspective. So, I decided to really do something good in the world and make an incredibly niche tumblr blog.
Anyway thanks for the backstory? I guess that is kind of interesting to know but atm I'm too distracted by your dickishness.
Combine that with comic related topic you had last time, and go for this:
http://ladydrawers.wordpress.com/
http://vimeo.com/71165867
It's quite amusing stuff.
I find all this contemporary "equality" stuff is ridiculous in first place. As much as I'd want to "get" why it is important that there is more gender equality in "noise" or comics for example, I don't see anyone explaining that.
It's utterly bizarre aim to make ALL the same. Where everything has mathematically accurate proportions represented. And in process how culture was, is transformed to something else in favor of reaching "equality". What equality? What does it mean? I don't know.
There was quite outrageous piece about Ladydrawers and feminist comic organization in new SARJAINFO (Finnish comic journal). They report the all details of Ladydrawers without much of critique. Just like Helsingin Sanomat. I'm sure one can do this "mans 1$ is womans 0,27$" math in work where people do the same job. In creative field, how can reduce matter as matter of necessity of equal paycheck? When job & product they do is often different. I mean, talking of things like Fantagraphics or Top Shelf. I'm assuming its not sweatshop of people drawing bulk pictures and one gets more than another. With those companies it's people who write and draw their own stories. Simply some artists do stuff that sells, and they earn more than the ones who creates stuff that didn't interest anyone. In Finland comic scene appears to be run and kept alive by women. Awards comic society has given since 1972 was basically men only. Few exceptions here and there. In 2000's more women. Since 2010 we see half women, half men. And women are all feminist artists. It seems like choices are now based on "equality". Not really whether achievements of artists would be exceptionally good comic artist, but "physically challenged" + "female"... hmm.. Equality? Maybe.
That "Lady Drawers" video is fucking ridiculous. Apart from an almost dada-ist disconnection, the actual drawings are appalling. How the hell do they expect parity with professional cartoonists with crap like that?
I don't think I could explain the concept of "equality" either, at least not in terms of Noise gigs or comics. Socially, I think it's a good idea, but if Ms. Righton expects her views on Noise gigs to be taken seriously just because she's got a cunt, that's not equality. It's the same old crap so many modern feminists have, wanting more "representation" in western culture while girls are being fucking kidnapped and enslaved in Africa, and somehow thinking it's the same problem. "Sexist" advertising is down there in the misery stakes with clitorectomies, some rich bitch not getting a job as chairman of the board telling her woes to her maid, and so on. I don't think a lot of feminists these days know what equality is either, and I don't think they want to know.
That "Voteman" video was funny, though.
Equality doesn't exist. It never did and it never will. It's just the current brand of an opium for the masses to keep them content and docile. If not prevented by nature it certainly won't be realised by those who rule us.
non-binary...
lol ahahah
I love to belong to a binary world.
Binary thinking is the ultimate weakness in an analog universe :D
lol you got me
I want an 8 bit society
Ha that would be the ideal society. :)
Some theories state we're living in a digital simulation of an analog universe, that'd be even more confusing. :D http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_physics
"Family values" Xtians and anti-smut fems - doesn't really need a punchline, does it?
BNP always amazes me how it looks extremely PC by attempting to be UNPC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oczj6thd4CY#t=116 (LOMBROSO was right!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v013nFjAu0M who the fuck did the soundtrack of the cartoon???
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCx2uGBhvEc
Perhaps the greatest minds of the modern age at work.
No cake for faggots: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2644136/Panel-Baker-make-cakes-gay-weddings.html
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on June 12, 2014, 11:27:34 PM
http://www.alternet.org/economy/trader-joes-nyc-store-defends-racist-sexist-and-misogynistic-songs-playlist
rock & roll hurt my feelings :'(
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuD4K60P16k (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuD4K60P16k)
"disabilist"
Quote from: Si Clark on June 23, 2014, 12:27:10 PM
I really hate the Guardian sometimes.....
You and me both, for so many reasons.
spme Fire & Ice gigs banned in Germany
http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/womens-blog/2014/jul/01/nudie-tee-sexism-golf-sport-female-bodies
genious
BBC article on hate speech/free speech in good old 'Murica
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-27448720 (http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-27448720)
http://imgur.com/gallery/1nIgP7Z
In a radio interview (I've still got the tape somewhere), Tolkien did compare the dwarves with the jews. He was an old-school anglo-saxon roman catholic ("very devout", from the same interview), he's going to have his prejudices.
http://www.campusreform.org/?ID=5735 (http://www.campusreform.org/?ID=5735)
Quote(B)y doing this kind of activist project I was no longer an armchair activist theorizing in the classroom.
Quote from: tiny_tove on July 02, 2014, 03:24:40 PM
spme Fire & Ice gigs banned in Germany
Both shows went ahead, though at changed 'secret' locations.
Actually, I went across to the one in London, and it was a fantastic performance. I really can't understand why there were barely 80 at it. Also, it's hard to understand why people want to get it banned. Was it Michael Moynihan's presence, or what?
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/15/vagina-selfie-for-3d-printers-lands-japanese-artist-in-trouble
hæ!hæ! idiot art!!
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on July 11, 2014, 08:04:40 PM
Do Not Laugh:
http://www.styleite.com/news/clothing-line-under-fire-after-putting-a-black-childs-face-on-monkey-shirt/ (http://www.styleite.com/news/clothing-line-under-fire-after-putting-a-black-childs-face-on-monkey-shirt/)
Oh my god, this is hilarious.
(http://38.media.tumblr.com/a5e14cabf251419af0d62e915ea76f22/tumblr_mwm7en0hlZ1syt3jko1_1280.jpg)
http://milano.corriere.it/notizie/cronaca/14_luglio_25/polemica-simboli-nazi-vetrina-solo-pubblicita-saldi-cbf9963c-1409-11e4-9950-e546b7448c47.shtml
Italian sisley shop advertise sales with SS AHH
The Guardian offers up serves like that daily to take advantage of the huge number of hits they know they'll get. Just today, there was an article on how Kim Kardishian's arse being represented in the media is racist, and an article on how women who don't like feminism are stupid because they take pictures of cats with signs.
By the way, the writer of that Thomas article claimed on Twitter she wasn't being too serious - the classic "get-out-of-responsibility-free" dodge.
Nothing wrong with some innocent "Lolita fantasies".
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2718720/American-Apparel-resorting-porn-sell-Back-School-range.html
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on August 07, 2014, 08:40:15 PM
Quote from: Scat-O-Logy on August 07, 2014, 07:01:04 PM
Nothing wrong with some innocent "Lolita fantasies".
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2718720/American-Apparel-resorting-porn-sell-Back-School-range.html
People bitch because clothes are not made in the U.S.A. & when they are made in the U.S.A., they still bitch.
people just love to bitch
I find this pretty funny...
http://lambgoat.com/features/177/confronting-Kim-Kelly-about-her-clients-racist-homophobic-past
HAHAHAHA!!! Gold:
(http://i.imgur.com/JHTSKcq.jpg)
That bitch is fucked in the head... :D
Apparently a stupid squirrel got kicked off a cliff (http://www.smh.com.au/travel/travel-planning/travel-news/15000-reward-offered-for-sadistic-grand-canyon-squirrel-kicker-20140807-3d9gn.html).
"...she was totally shocked and lost her appetite when she opened her food". Not necessarily a Nazi symbol but definitely a symbol that causes chronic butthurt.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2722290/Customer-finds-swastika-burned-butter-McDonald-s-McChicken-sandwich.html
So lets all start to "open food" before we eat it.
Mystieries of world may be revealed.
fucking Italians
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/21/naked-italians-protests-drunken-tourists-barcelona
http://www.repubblica.it/esteri/2014/08/27/foto/maglia_per_bimbi_con_stella_di_david_bufera_su_zara_che_la_ritira-94519762/1/?rss#1
Sheriff star shirt deleted from Zara's catalogue.
Quote from: tiny_tove on August 27, 2014, 03:39:32 PM
http://www.repubblica.it/esteri/2014/08/27/foto/maglia_per_bimbi_con_stella_di_david_bufera_su_zara_che_la_ritira-94519762/1/?rss#1
Sheriff star shirt deleted from Zara's catalogue.
Ha!
Huh -
[urlhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7002765.stm][/url]
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/amish-sect-members-who-cut-4121716
Amish hate crime
Ever wondered how to deal with all your privilege? Let this handy cartoon help.
http://www.robot-hugs.com/privilege/ (http://www.robot-hugs.com/privilege/)
That really does make me want to dismember myself.
I'm butthurt about the price of new Consumer Electronics album!
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on September 01, 2014, 04:48:17 AM
Ever wondered how to deal with all your privilege? Let this handy cartoon help.
http://www.robot-hugs.com/privilege/ (http://www.robot-hugs.com/privilege/)
What the fuck is cisgender?
It's what you get when people who do "gender studies" for a living explain biology to the rest of us. As Wikipedia helpfully explains -
QuoteCisgender and cissexual (often abbreviated to simply cis) describe related types of gender identity where individuals' experiences of their own gender match the sex they were assigned at birth. Sociologists Kristen Schilt and Laurel Westbrook define cisgender as a label for "individuals who have a match between the gender they were assigned at birth, their bodies, and their personal identity" as a complement to transgender.There are a number of derivatives of the terms in use, including cis male for "male assigned male at birth", cis female for "female assigned female at birth", analogically cis man and cis woman, as well as cissexism and cissexual assumption. In addition, certain scholars have begun to use the term cisnormativity, akin to sexual diversity studies' heteronormativity. A related adjective is gender-normative; Eli R. Green has written that "'cisgendered' is used [instead of the more popular 'gender normative'] to refer to people who do not identify with a gender diverse experience, without enforcing existence of a normative gender expression".
So, basically, the last million plus years of male and female gender has been made redundant by mesdames Schilt and Westbrook.
Ta for that- it's a new one on me....
", without enforcing existence of a normative gender expression"
I am too ignorant for gender(bender) studies
Jesus! Let me get this straight (excuse the pun!), a 'cis' is normal, no? So, what's a sissy?
Is it the French government that's funding research into surgery that'd let men give birth, and teaching in the schools that gender is a 'social construct'?
Interesting documentary on the subject:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUTcwqR4Q4Y
Tezenis removes 'crime scene' pants from Oxford Street store after backlash over 'rape' connotations
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/fashion/tezenis-removes-crime-scene-pants-from-oxford-street-store-after-backlash-over-rape-connotations-9738613.html
QuoteI will have an undergraduate class, let's say a young white male student, politically-correct, who will say: 'I am only a bourgeois white male, I can't speak.' ...I say to them: 'Why not develop a certain degree of rage against the history that has written such an abject script for you that you are silenced?' Then you begin to investigate what it is that silences you, rather than take this very determinist position - since my skin colour is this, since my sex is this, I cannot speak... From this position, then, I say you will of course not speak in the same way about the Third World material, but if you make it your task not only to learn what is going on there through language, through specific programmes of study, but also at the same time through a historical critique of your position as the investigating person, then you will have earned the right to criticize, to be heard. When you take the position of not doing your homework - 'I will not criticize because of my accident of birth, the historical accident' - that is the much more pernicious position.
- Gayatri Chakravorty Spivak
If conventional "gender studies" are correct, it's the white, male and hetero voice that's been the loudest for a while. Which I would of course agree with. Our "young white male student, politically-correct" may well feel a degree of guilt about being what he actually is, but he'd be better off admitting what he is and just getting on with his life and doing his best rather than chastising himself with any "lord I am not worthy" academic twaddle.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ukN2jovdpk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ukN2jovdpk)
The whole "cis" thing started off as kind of a joke on a trans usenet group, if what I've read is correct, and the fact that 99.7% of people (according to wiki) are now, in some quarters, at least, expected to identify themselves as such, and feel guilty about it, boggles my mind.
I'm 100% okay with people doing whatever they want with their bodies, but I kind of think the whole trans thing is weird when considered a medical issue that requires hormones and surgery to correct. We've been around for a couple of hundred thousand years, by some counts, and people have existed across the gender spectrum without hormones or surgery. Different cultures used to accommodate those people in different ways, not all the best ways, but there are plenty of examples of cultures that integrated what are now called "trans" people in healthy ways, seemingly, at least.
And if we're supposed to be against binary gender roles, doesn't "transitioning" kind of spit in the face of that?
I can't stand the term, but maybe it would be better if more people were "genderqueer", though, again, I'm 100% fine with people doing WHATEVER they want with their bodies. I guess it's the medicalization that makes me feel uneasy.
Cis seems like a successful meme that's not going anywhere so probably best to just live with it
Amusingly, there are prominent "second wave" feminists - the very people who invented the argument that gender is a "social construct" - who suddenly become "biological determinists" when it comes to trannies. The current meme for them is TERF - Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminists. There's been conflict between them and trans people and their supporters for a couple of years now. Look it up, it's great fun.
We are the memes. You will be assimilated. Your biological and technological distinctiveness will be added to our own. Resistance is futile.
Yeah, I've spent way too much time reading about the TERF stuff. On some issues, I side with the feminists, for example, I read about some feminist meeting where the trans participants got up in arms because the cis-women (ha) were talking about menstruation and child birth, deeming those topics "trans exclusionary", so, topics unfit for discussion at a feminist meeting, but most of the TERF crowd are just horrible people.
This (http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/paris-lees-terf-war-twitter-radical-feminists-088) article is about the best summation I've read of it all, from someone with some stake in it.
It's Not Rape - It's A Snuggle With A Struggle
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2767808/It-s-Not-Rape-It-s-A-Cuddle-With-A-Struggle-Outrage-T-Shirt-slogan-promotes-sexual-violence.html?ito=social-facebook
I understand the offensiveneSS but you can't possibly say that slogan isn't catchy as... HIV?
http://www.vice.com/read/this-is-what-a-real-woman-looks-like-austria-bigots-greedom-party-conchita-wurst-life-ball-poster-786?utm_source=Outbrain&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=mainrss
http://www.vice.com/en_au/read/exhibit-b-human-zoo-barbican-178 (http://www.vice.com/en_au/read/exhibit-b-human-zoo-barbican-178)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkg-KZ55SBQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkg-KZ55SBQ)
So like oh my god whatever....
http://www.france24.com/en/20140929-french-supermarket-auchan-islam-toy-machinegun/
Quote from: Bob on October 06, 2014, 01:57:57 AM
http://www.france24.com/en/20140929-french-supermarket-auchan-islam-toy-machinegun/
that's an MP5 not an AK-47.... what's the problem?
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on October 10, 2014, 03:09:51 AM"Did you notice the bow? I'm not comfortable with the sex I was assigned at birth so I'm exercising my right to identify with the gender of my choice. Now, get out my way, I got to take a shit"
I can just hear that being spoken in the Cartman voice.
Campus feminists are a breed apart. What I find interesting about them is that, for the most part, most of them have only just finished puberty and they think they've got everything worked out.
http://thoughtcatalog.com/marie-calloway/2013/06/how-two-young-feminists-are-using-radical-feminism-to-pave-a-new-way-forward/ (http://thoughtcatalog.com/marie-calloway/2013/06/how-two-young-feminists-are-using-radical-feminism-to-pave-a-new-way-forward/)
QuoteI first interviewed Alexandria Brown, who, at the age of 25, is well-versed in radical feminist theory and continental philosophy.
Who needs life experience when you've got the right books?
QuoteCampus feminists are a breed apart. What I find interesting about them is that, for the most part, most of them have only just finished puberty and they think they've got everything worked out.
After reading those interviews, all you can see are minds that are spiraling out of control. So desperate for identity and a personal 'scene' that they'll drive themselves mad trying to constantly stay in tune with that 'lifestyle'. I saw myself as a hardcore straight edger during the late 80 / early 90s and fell into some patterns that clearly marked myself chasing some sort of a 'scene', a gang mentality. I still don't drink and do drugs, but it's liberating knowing that you just do it for yourself.
It's like a moron that gets COVERED in tattoos that represent some specific scene they're in at the time - be it fucking horrorbilly, rollergirl, goth, etc. Watching them look at their own $1000s worth of tattoos and have to retain the interests and participate in the scene when they are clearly outgrowing it, driving themselves mad.
Fuck, it might sound shallow and 'uneducated', but I have known and involved myself with a number of women that work directly with inner city prostitutes, safe houses for women, etc.. and those girls that are actually NECK DEEP in the issues seem to be the most grounded ---- aka realistic about their lifestyles and fucking SEXUALLY CHARGED for men.
I wonder if it would helpful if gender and women's studies students had to do anatomy (full on dissection and everything) and some sort of 'primitive psychology' degrees as part of their curriculum. More of a heavy technical HUMAN and GROUNDING element to the directed studies.
Having to adopt and keep such torturous concepts and language either does you in in the end or you just become something else entirely. Having come from the anarchist pc scene, I've seen it and done it myself, and yea, it nearly did drive me mad, but that was my fault. There is a high turn-over rate - lots of young people discover these new ideas, run with them as if it's never been done before and either burn out, change their politics completely or become so ossified they turn into living caricatures. Some of the older activists I've known have been absolutely pathetic as human beings.
It's not that there are no people who are just balanced and strongly hold such views, but usually those people are more open minded and don't care too much about language and things like that. They also tend towards more small-scale, local kinds of activism that are a lot more mutually beneficial, rather than trying to re-create the world in their mind's image. Much like the women Sam mentions, I suppose. One of the people I'm thinking of also has worked in a women's refuge for some years now.
And re your suggestion, Sam, The Sisterhood is already onto it - http://nymag.com/thecut/2014/05/what-is-feminist-biology-and-why-do-we-need-it.html (http://nymag.com/thecut/2014/05/what-is-feminist-biology-and-why-do-we-need-it.html).
Horror genre is predominantly anti-feminist and Emmy's not havin' it... :-(
http://www.wewomen.ca/news-celebrities/tortured-slashed-raped-why-horror-films-are-completely-anti-femini-s1060705.html
Quote from: Scat-O-Logy on October 18, 2014, 08:17:36 PM
Horror genre is predominantly anti-feminist and Emmy's not havin' it... :-(
http://www.wewomen.ca/news-celebrities/tortured-slashed-raped-why-horror-films-are-completely-anti-femini-s1060705.html
oh no! an outrage!! call femen!!!
Jesus, talk about low hanging fruit.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2802057/mango-forced-apologize-anti-semitic-shirt-bearing-lightning-bolts-similar-insignia-worn-police-nazi-germany.html
http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2014/oct/22/breaking-bad-dolls-withdrawn
Disgusted by her daughters dating black men; I Hate Being A Black Man'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNnLMhBOU4A
My Niece Only Dates White Men!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYszz_2OsKU
Mixed Race Girl hates her Black side Funny Watch !!! MINUTE 6.00 when they talk about the mirror!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ezPXX1W2mk
Quote'The Spanish have a despicable way to promote brands. Antisemitism sells,'
That's what I love about racism, it's so versatile.
Apologies if this has already been posted here - http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2014/oct/22/goodfellas-actor-frank-sivero-lawsuit-the-simpsons
The best part is this
"Sivero says a "portion" of the profits from The Simpsons franchise should now end up in his pocket – especially because he was promised a film of his own, he alleges."
"He was promised that they would make a film together; but it never happened," the filing adds. "On one occasion, at a party in or around 1995/96, Sivero had another conversation with Mr. Brooks where Sivero stated, 'It's about time we do something together.' Mr. Brooks said yes, but this again never materialized."
I'm pretty sure saying 'yeah we should work together' at a party isn't legally binding. I always wonder how these cretins work out these stupid amounts of money.
Quote from: tiny_tove on October 22, 2014, 12:10:33 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2802057/mango-forced-apologize-anti-semitic-shirt-bearing-lightning-bolts-similar-insignia-worn-police-nazi-germany.html
My two objections to are are the price and it being a female shirt, otherwise I'd be happy to have one to wear for work.
It's all black and latino people. The director said that the footage of white people was either said in passing, off camera, or drowned out by sirens, etc. What a load of shit. There is very obviously cultural factors at work there. Shouldn't social justice warriors be cultural relativists?
My hometown has around 40,000 people; I don't think catcalls happen very often. Actually, I guy I grew up with catcalled old ladies all the time. Another guy I grew up with screwed old ladies all the time, but that's neither here nor there.
Im always intrigued by how people get to fuck old women,i wouldn't know where to find old women looking for a good time.
In all honesty, that video brought the politically correct faggot out in me when I first saw it. I couldn't help thinking how much it would shit me if I was just walking around minding my own business and people kept calling shit out to me. I've had the occasional bogan yell stupid shit at me from cars (which seems to be the only way they confront, from the safety of a passing car), and shrugged it off, but if I was subjected to that kind of nonsense all day, every time I went out, I'd be in prison by now.
Keep some loose change in your pocket, perfect for chipping car paint.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on October 30, 2014, 09:06:02 PM
Less than two minutes of a 10 hour walk around NYC, which, is full of awful, horrible, misogynisticness:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1XGPvbWn0A
Counter-strike: http://csfvideos.com/women-are-thirsty-too-guy-walks-through-new-york-to-see-how-many-times-he-would-get-harassed
Feminazis are going to get their panties in a twist over this one. Wankers.
The femileft will either ignore it or sledge it. Admittedly, a few bits look a bit staged to me ("Model Pranksters"? They divide their works between "pranks" and "social experiments" so I wonder if they know the difference). Anyway, you know they'll have the theory to justify not giving a shit.
I suppose that if you're insanely good looking you'll get attention. Maybe what we're seeing here is the harassment of sexually attractive people? Do they need their own pressure groups? "Hands Off Hotties" or something?
why should punk listen to hippies?
Nicki Minaj Still More PE Than Any of You Guys
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BU769XX_dIQ
Nicki Minaj is hot. Is she oriental black? She looks it. I saw her this morning in a mock golf outfit. Very hot! There's a Drage video where he walks around in a white suit and shoots things up. Crap music - great video. If I was a black gangster/rapper that's exactly what I would do.
And no Tim, Nicki is a pop product for hire with a fake ass and fake tits who also manages to be hot. She aint PE so fuck off.
She's from Trinidad and Tobago
QuoteThere's a Drage video where he walks around in a white suit and shoots things up.
That confused me for a moment till I realised it was a typo, I don't remember making that video yet :D
I meant Drake. I'm confused as well. It's been a hard night shift.
Quote from: Cementimental on November 10, 2014, 12:10:49 PM
Nicki Minaj Still More PE Than Any of You Guys
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BU769XX_dIQ
Ha!Ha! This is real perv breial (Scandinavians hear me) !!
http://www.theguardian.com/theguardian/shortcuts/2014/nov/10/nicki-minajs-video-isnt-nazi-shes-just-trying-arty (http://www.theguardian.com/theguardian/shortcuts/2014/nov/10/nicki-minajs-video-isnt-nazi-shes-just-trying-arty)
Best comment -
QuoteThis is my idea of hell... Nazis and shit hip hop.
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20141106/19035829074/student-facing-terroristic-threat-charges-after-decorating-high-school-bathroom-with-laughable-satanic-graffiti.shtml (https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20141106/19035829074/student-facing-terroristic-threat-charges-after-decorating-high-school-bathroom-with-laughable-satanic-graffiti.shtml)
I'll just leave this here
Quote from: first comment of the video"Ehhhhhhhhhh, I think that the video shouldn't have been parodied because it was meant to bring awareness to an issue. This video is like making a parody of a kid being bullied whilst going home from school and then putting it in a joking matter. It makes you seem like a dick :/ "
Wolf whistling a woman is bullying? Well at least it's not rape. Thanks God for small mercies, eh? As is often the case Jim Goad says it well.
http://takimag.com/article/for_whom_the_cat_calls_jim_goad#axzz3Ir9Odnak
Science says political correctness is good for business.
http://psychcentral.com/news/2014/11/12/politically-correct-workplace-can-boost-productivity/77243.html (http://psychcentral.com/news/2014/11/12/politically-correct-workplace-can-boost-productivity/77243.html)
I don't care if you landed a spacecraft on a comet, your shirt is sexist and ostracizing
http://www.theverge.com/2014/11/13/7213819/your-bowling-shirt-is-holding-back-progress (http://www.theverge.com/2014/11/13/7213819/your-bowling-shirt-is-holding-back-progress)
Obviously a popular piece.
Quote from: tiny_tove on November 14, 2014, 12:57:04 PM
http://www.theverge.com/2014/11/13/7213819/your-bowling-shirt-is-holding-back-progress
What?!!! Apologies for wearing that great shirt?!!! This can't be happening!! NNNNNNNOOOOOOOOO Matt!!!!!! Føkk... you should wear the shirt w pride!!! Have to say I have gotten a lot of negative reactions from women and pussy whipped boys from wearing my beloved Pamela Anderson T. heh! People are sooo sensitive.
Quote from: online prowler on November 15, 2014, 12:12:55 AM
Quote from: tiny_tove on November 14, 2014, 12:57:04 PM
http://www.theverge.com/2014/11/13/7213819/your-bowling-shirt-is-holding-back-progress
What?!!! Apologies for wearing that great shirt?!!! This can't be happening!! NNNNNNNOOOOOOOOO Matt!!!!!! Føkk... you should wear the shirt w pride!!! Have to say I have gotten a lot of negative reactions from women and pussy whipped boys from wearing my beloved Pamela Anderson T. heh! People are sooo sensitive.
CLASSIC post pics
Quote from: tiny_tove on November 15, 2014, 06:21:07 PM
Quote from: online prowler on November 15, 2014, 12:12:55 AM
Quote from: tiny_tove on November 14, 2014, 12:57:04 PM
http://www.theverge.com/2014/11/13/7213819/your-bowling-shirt-is-holding-back-progress
What?!!! Apologies for wearing that great shirt?!!! This can't be happening!! NNNNNNNOOOOOOOOO Matt!!!!!! Føkk... you should wear the shirt w pride!!! Have to say I have gotten a lot of negative reactions from women and pussy whipped boys from wearing my beloved Pamela Anderson T. heh! People are sooo sensitive.
CLASSIC post pics
It gets better though -
Rosetta mission scientist Dr Matt Taylor cries during apology over 'offensive' shirt (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/space/11231320/Rosetta-mission-scientist-Dr-Matt-Taylor-cries-during-apology-over-offensive-shirt.html)
Quote from: online prowler on November 15, 2014, 12:12:55 AM
Quote from: tiny_tove on November 14, 2014, 12:57:04 PM
http://www.theverge.com/2014/11/13/7213819/your-bowling-shirt-is-holding-back-progress
What?!!! Apologies for wearing that great shirt?!!! This can't be happening!! NNNNNNNOOOOOOOOO Matt!!!!!! Føkk... you should wear the shirt w pride!!! Have to say I have gotten a lot of negative reactions from women and pussy whipped boys from wearing my beloved Pamela Anderson T. heh! People are sooo sensitive.
Haha. That's funny because I distinctly remember complimenting you on that very shirt. It is a thing of beauty.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on November 15, 2014, 08:09:46 PM
Here's the bowling shirt that is holding all women back from science:
http://www.alohaland.com/whats-new/new-gunner-girls
(http://www.alohaland.com/images/new-gunner-girls.1381967955.1229558179.2.jpg)
Apparently BW its sold out, so it have to be a lot of men around who want to exclude women.
@Salamanauhat - This is just sad and overtly PC disgusting.
@TS - thanx buddy. I think you are the only one.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on November 16, 2014, 01:56:08 AM
http://www.thelocal.se/20141111/scandi-toy-firm-defends-too-white-catalogues
Quite funny to think that an important approach on marketing is "cultural related". Same product is sold with different shapes according to target market.
In Germany you have blonde waitress, in Italy more mediterranean, in Dubai you have man in with moustache... As simple as that.
And thank god for that so I get paid three times for the same job.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on November 16, 2014, 01:56:08 AM
http://www.thelocal.se/20141113/sweden-mulls-sexist-game-labels
Nothing new for sweden. I think there is similar thing for movies already? You can check out if movie qualifies for your gender-sensitivity, heh... Whenever I talk to swedes, they appear to be almost equally amazed of direction their country has taken. Or maybe I just talk to different kind of swedes?
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/julian-blanck-disturbing-checklist-picking-4641656
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on November 16, 2014, 01:56:08 AM
http://www.thelocal.se/20131211/snow-plowing-should-be-gender-equal-greens
I wouldn't catalogue this under butthurt, since if I understand it correctly, the first reason to do it was indeed gender equality, but the outcome proves to be more practical for a lot of people. After all, there's a lot of men who bring their children to daycare and school as well as women... And if you indeed see that a lot more walkers get hurt during snowfall than cardrives, that too has nothing to do with gender...
http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/11/14/fighting-the-trojan-horse-of-hipster-fascism/
Liberal Jews vs DIJ in the US. Highest level of retardness I have read in the long time on the subject. I could not make it until the end....
It went like this -
QuoteLate into the night, a surge from the back of the protest pushed us forward, and the marquee of the Alhambra was smashed. The letter E fluttered to the ground before me. "D..ath in June" displayed on the marquee stood out like a true Situationist dérive; a Dadaist mash-up. A cop car returned, and the stragglers of DIJ fans scudded into the theater. After a brief calm, I called it a night.
Quote from: tiny_tove on November 18, 2014, 04:53:12 PM
http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/11/14/fighting-the-trojan-horse-of-hipster-fascism/
Liberal Jews vs DIJ in the US. Highest level of retardness I have read in the long time on the subject. I could not make it until the end....
fuckkk me. i think i have cancer from reading the first paragraph...
QuoteHaving just finished reading that 3,500 page tome of Jewish scripture, the Babylonian Talmud, I felt like I had some extra time on my hands and needed to celebrate. As it happened, the protest took place the day before the anniversary of Kristallnacht. The following day was Armistice Day (Veterans Day), celebrating the end of World War I. It seemed like a good day to fight fascism, and Death in June is famous for their openly fascist approach.
HA !!
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/s526x395/10384108_586363921463912_6946924576253206920_n.jpg?oh=91cb672e99b5503128c026ea0a14d64a&oe=54DD7176&__gda__=1427932048_2a99e29802fd6035999626c7d5144038)
more femen fetish.
Quote from: tiny_tove on November 18, 2014, 04:53:12 PM
http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/11/14/fighting-the-trojan-horse-of-hipster-fascism/
Liberal Jews vs DIJ in the US. Highest level of retardness I have read in the long time on the subject. I could not make it until the end....
I read it all. It's almost semi-worth it. Perhaps because it shows that something like Earth First! appears to have online moderator guy, who certainly isn't earth
FIRST, but appears to set good set of humanism and political agenda before people qualify to movement of his desire.
Decent reading on subject matter may be also Unabombers old comments how enviromental movement became shit, when all sort of general good-doers infiltrated movement. Suddenly hierarchy of importance appears totally different.
Never seen protestors outside or inside live gigs.
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on November 19, 2014, 04:50:41 PM
Quote from: tiny_tove on November 18, 2014, 04:53:12 PM
http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/11/14/fighting-the-trojan-horse-of-hipster-fascism/
Liberal Jews vs DIJ in the US. Highest level of retardness I have read in the long time on the subject. I could not make it until the end....
Never seen protestors outside or inside live gigs.
Seen them in Germany, Switzerland and Italy. Most of the time for the wrong reasons.
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on November 19, 2014, 04:50:41 PMI read it all. It's almost semi-worth it. Perhaps because it shows that something like Earth First! appears to have online moderator guy, who certainly isn't earth FIRST, but appears to set good set of humanism and political agenda before people qualify to movement of his desire.
Decent reading on subject matter may be also Unabombers old comments how enviromental movement became shit, when all sort of general good-doers infiltrated movement. Suddenly hierarchy of importance appears totally different.
Never seen protestors outside or inside live gigs.
Read it all as well and when he started about ecology, I was like: what the fuck does that have to do with Death In June.
Then I started to see what he was getting at. For years already, I've been hearing people say things like: "how can you be pro-ecology and be right-wing at the same time?" (Rhetorical question in general, not directly to me.) And I never understood what the problem with it would be... I do know now why they say this (which has to do with colonies and multinationals etc...), but still, I don't see why it would be impossible to say that you want to preserve your own culture etc. while still wanting every nation on earth to take care of the planet...
So, yeah, they're not open minded enough to understand why it's fine for people to be pro-ecology and against immigration for example, hahaha...
Apologies for this ... couldn't help myself.
Cops getting a good Femen grope:
(http://www.returnofkings.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/femen-620x350.jpg)
Broken and cute:
(http://www.popularresistance.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Femen-protester-arrested-in-Russia-e1382459738245.jpg)
Hogtied is next:
(http://static.wixstatic.com/media/0754f8_482d8d87723a490d92699617c1946ef1.jpg_srz_910_448_85_22_0.50_1.20_0.00_jpg_srz)
Model at work:
(http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/b8/0b/09/b80b0929ecfeccffc12ad23b29a99194.jpg)
Fuck yes:
(https://postvirtual.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/131202-femen-piss-protest-in-paris-via-selcukkaracayir-babkfelccaa3blg-large.jpg)
Find three wrong things, win a price!
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2012/11/27/1354044050611/10150734-9fa3-42bd-ac66-5ddd59ed990f-620.jpeg)
As a sort of counterbalance to that article: http://anarchistnews.org/content/i-say-potato-you-say-dangerous-resurgence-fascist-ideology
EF! was originally against immigration, until what was called the redneck/hippie split in the late eighties, when the movement became thoroughly leftist, which was better in a few regards, and much worse in many more. On the redneck side, you had people like Foreman, and Abbey, whilst on the left there were people like Barri, who, in her efforts to unite environmentalists and loggers, was enough of a threat to scare the FBI enough to try to kill her.
Quote from: Jordan on November 20, 2014, 04:45:01 AM
As a sort of counterbalance to that article: http://anarchistnews.org/content/i-say-potato-you-say-dangerous-resurgence-fascist-ideology
Thank you for this charming article.
Quote from: Ashmonger on November 20, 2014, 12:49:46 AM
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on November 19, 2014, 04:50:41 PMI read it all. It's almost semi-worth it. Perhaps because it shows that something like Earth First! appears to have online moderator guy, who certainly isn't earth FIRST, but appears to set good set of humanism and political agenda before people qualify to movement of his desire.
Decent reading on subject matter may be also Unabombers old comments how enviromental movement became shit, when all sort of general good-doers infiltrated movement. Suddenly hierarchy of importance appears totally different.
Never seen protestors outside or inside live gigs.
Read it all as well and when he started about ecology, I was like: what the fuck does that have to do with Death In June.
Then I started to see what he was getting at. For years already, I've been hearing people say things like: "how can you be pro-ecology and be right-wing at the same time?" (Rhetorical question in general, not directly to me.) And I never understood what the problem with it would be... I do know now why they say this (which has to do with colonies and multinationals etc...), but still, I don't see why it would be impossible to say that you want to preserve your own culture etc. while still wanting every nation on earth to take care of the planet...
So, yeah, they're not open minded enough to understand why it's fine for people to be pro-ecology and against immigration for example, hahaha...
Quote from: Jordan on November 20, 2014, 04:50:34 AM
EF! was originally against immigration, until what was called the redneck/hippie split in the late eighties, when the movement became thoroughly leftist, which was better in a few regards, and much worse in many more. On the redneck side, you had people like Foreman, and Abbey, whilst on the left there were people like Barri, who, in her efforts to unite environmentalists and loggers, was enough of a threat to scare the FBI enough to try to kill her.
Certainly for most simple minded people logic remains: left represent all good, right represents all evil and selfish. And therefore latter couldn't be into environmental issues, as it may limit possibilities of business.
However, concept of what actually is included in such vague term as "left" or "right", seems to vary in many countries. But to take a look into history of environmental issues, over here - Finland that is - it was born purely from 1800's nationalism. Similarities in Britain. First ever laws to protect wildlife, punish for cruelty towards animals etc. was created by Germany with power of newborn state what would approach world beyond materialism. Even if one couldn't deny that from those days, things have progressed further by hard work from people in all sorts of political spectrum, it seems foolish to try to whitewash to real roots and claim as if we're facing some crisis when so called "right wing" is assumed to "infiltrate" and "misuse" the cause for benefit of their dubious political cause. Oh pleeease...
But certainly this type of confusion has lead that many people in right wing, in leeches in cold business and retards in the world of thugs and even "normal people" always sigh in displeasure when "green hippies" always create obstacles and whine about things. For us here in Finland, it's good that it's not all all just eco/gayrights/streetparty type of fusion, (where first appears to be forgotten while two others gain popularity), but also some high profile mainstream celebrities like Linkola is widely acknowledged figure, and his famous messages can be pretty damn cold and harsh.
Of course, even him stating the obvious, will generate butthurt. His famous quote about full lifeboat (and good-doers tendency to take few more than should, and therefore drown everybody) often resulted bitter remarks about who then qualifies to be in the boat. Who selects? On what basis? This humanist dilemma always reminds the true flaccid potential of "good-doer" to solve anything significant, as they'll run out of enemies, so called "bad guys" before problems are solved.
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on November 20, 2014, 10:30:27 AM
[...] high profile mainstream celebrities like Linkola is widely acknowledged figure, and his famous messages can be pretty damn cold and harsh.
Of course, even him stating the obvious, will generate butthurt. His famous quote about full lifeboat (and good-doers tendency to take few more than should, and therefore drown everybody) often resulted bitter remarks about who then qualifies to be in the boat. Who selects? On what basis? This humanist dilemma always reminds the true flaccid potential of "good-doer" to solve anything significant, as they'll run out of enemies, so called "bad guys" before problems are solved.
is Linkola really a celebrity and very well known in finland? I suppose that makes sense. Trying to write papers about him in school here in the U.S. was awful because you had to waste a bunch of time just explaining who he is.
Quote from: l.b. on November 20, 2014, 07:04:44 PM
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on November 20, 2014, 10:30:27 AM
[...] high profile mainstream celebrities like Linkola is widely acknowledged figure, and his famous messages can be pretty damn cold and harsh.
Of course, even him stating the obvious, will generate butthurt. His famous quote about full lifeboat (and good-doers tendency to take few more than should, and therefore drown everybody) often resulted bitter remarks about who then qualifies to be in the boat. Who selects? On what basis? This humanist dilemma always reminds the true flaccid potential of "good-doer" to solve anything significant, as they'll run out of enemies, so called "bad guys" before problems are solved.
is Linkola really a celebrity and very well known in finland?
Yes but these days mostly just featured in tv & radio talkshows, when they need some guests to say something shocking.
Besides radio, tv, newspaper things, he does still give lectures as well. Not long ago, in auditorium of library of Lahti for pretty big audience. But being old man, of course it sets some limits.
But it's not like some obscure fringe culture phenomena, but books come out on the biggest possible book publishers that exists in Finland (WSOY etc). Featured in mainstream channels in big media, not some weirdo-cult-underground networks.
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on November 20, 2014, 10:30:27 AM
Certainly for most simple minded people logic remains: left represent all good, right represents all evil and selfish. And therefore latter couldn't be into environmental issues, as it may limit possibilities of business.
However, concept of what actually is included in such vague term as "left" or "right", seems to vary in many countries. But to take a look into history of environmental issues, over here - Finland that is - it was born purely from 1800's nationalism. Similarities in Britain. First ever laws to protect wildlife, punish for cruelty towards animals etc. was created by Germany with power of newborn state what would approach world beyond materialism. Even if one couldn't deny that from those days, things have progressed further by hard work from people in all sorts of political spectrum, it seems foolish to try to whitewash to real roots and claim as if we're facing some crisis when so called "right wing" is assumed to "infiltrate" and "misuse" the cause for benefit of their dubious political cause. Oh pleeease...
But certainly this type of confusion has lead that many people in right wing, in leeches in cold business and retards in the world of thugs and even "normal people" always sigh in displeasure when "green hippies" always create obstacles and whine about things. For us here in Finland, it's good that it's not all all just eco/gayrights/streetparty type of fusion, (where first appears to be forgotten while two others gain popularity), but also some high profile mainstream celebrities like Linkola is widely acknowledged figure, and his famous messages can be pretty damn cold and harsh.
Of course, even him stating the obvious, will generate butthurt. His famous quote about full lifeboat (and good-doers tendency to take few more than should, and therefore drown everybody) often resulted bitter remarks about who then qualifies to be in the boat. Who selects? On what basis? This humanist dilemma always reminds the true flaccid potential of "good-doer" to solve anything significant, as they'll run out of enemies, so called "bad guys" before problems are solved.
I completely agree, but I do think a lot of the confusion is indeed also caused by right wing parties right now as well. They think being green is for hippies, so they're not interested in ecology at all. We can see that in Flanders with the N-VA party for example, who have a very limited interest in ecology and are very liberal/capitalist. So, yeah, obviously most left people think that's what the right stands for. At the same time over here the more extreme right wing party (Vlaams Belang) seems to have more interest in ecology/nature/... (Although I guess you shouldn't try to start a discussion about vegetarianism for example with most of their members, haha.)
So, yeah, I think the confusion is caused on both sides. Until you step out of the party system and start to decide for your own what is important and what not. (And you come to the conclusion there's no party that's good for you, haha.)
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/technology-science/technology/watch-men-painful-childbirth-simulations-4666100
this could fit also in the sexual curiosities thread as a the ultimate bdsm/preggo/cross-dressing mix
Good fuck face at 0:43.
Genesis Breyer P-orridge ... What a føkking pompous larva git out of touch with reality...
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=715805465176114&pnref=story (https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=715805465176114&pnref=story)
'Rape joke' optical illusion sparks outrag
https://niume.com/pages/post/?postID=16574
http://www.theguardian.com/education/2014/dec/02/uglygirlsclub-student-feminists-take-to-twitter-to-hit-back-at-critics?CMP=twt_gu
Jihadis Memes
http://motherboard.vice.com/read/western-jihadis-memes-are-a-real-thing
They're bloody terrible. Stupid fucking IS.
Take the pledge! Sign the hero wall! And pretend your kids don't have their own preferences for No Gender December!
http://www.nogenderdecember.com/ (http://www.nogenderdecember.com/)
retard of the year
https://uk.tv.yahoo.com/naturalist--eaten-alive-by-anaconda--escapes-from-creature-but-won-t-say-how-%E2%80%93-daily-tv-round-up-103214465.html?vp=1
Lots of things have now been banned in UK porn - http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/a-long-list-of-sex-acts-just-got-banned-in-uk-porn-9897174.html
Not sure how anyone thinks this will help anything as there are no restrictions when it comes to porn produced in other countries. Why is face sitting and female ejaculation on there? And 'verbal abuse', knee-jerk reaction to make them look good for the next election instead of doing anything positive.
Quote from: Si Clark on December 04, 2014, 11:40:47 AM
knee-jerk reaction to make them look good for the next election instead of doing anything positive.
British politics as usual then. Hardly a surprising turn of events?
A pity that despite the occasional lad found dead in a kimono with a wedge of lime in his mouth and polaroid of Aled Jones shoved up his arse that all our politicians are so straight and square. Give me a leader who isn't afraid to get menstrual blood on his face and I'll give you a vote.
Or is it just a straw man to divert attention from something much more real and relevant?
In the times of Geordie Shore et al we live in I would welcome a new moral crusader to clean up among the human trash.
Sometimes The Government gets it right. I think it kicked ass when the Russian government jailed those screaching cunts in Pussy Riot.
Urolagnia cant be good for you I think you are definitely asking for some sort disease doing that
^^^^
A heavenly way to die.
Quote from: Bob on December 08, 2014, 12:00:52 AM
Urolagnia cant be good for you I think you are definitely asking for some sort disease doing that
It is entirely harmless, urine is sterile. That list is a strange thing, surely even the most conventional of couples will have at least tried some of these things out? The 'consensual verbal abuse' bit was the most infuriatingly irrational. In bedrooms around the country people climax while calling their loving partner a filthy bastard, a fucking whore or whatever in the heat of the moment. That's mainstream suburban vanilla, not 'extreme'. The UK news makes less and less sense to me, the country is very morally confused right now.
http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/dec/11/wales-supporters-delilah-stop-singing (http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/dec/11/wales-supporters-delilah-stop-singing)
one of my fave songs ever... I could not be wrong.
I know hipsters are an easy target, but this takes the piss.... 'Angry, young & POOR' ? Yeah, sure you bunch of fucking retards :
https://www.angryyoungandpoor.com/store/pc/home.asp (https://www.angryyoungandpoor.com/store/pc/home.asp)
As Jim Goad once said: "The 'A' doesn't stand for 'Anarchy', the 'A' stands for 'ASSHOLE' ".
QuoteThe Clash was once called "The only band that matters".
Now you can get the only shower curtain that matters.
100% polyester shower curtain by Sourpuss, plastic shower rings included.]
Quote from: Major Carew on December 28, 2014, 05:07:31 PM
I know hipsters are an easy target, but this takes the piss.... 'Angry, young & POOR' ? Yeah, sure you bunch of fucking retards :
https://www.angryyoungandpoor.com/store/pc/home.asp (https://www.angryyoungandpoor.com/store/pc/home.asp)
As Jim Goad once said: "The 'A' doesn't stand for 'Anarchy', the 'A' stands for 'ASSHOLE' ".
Very strange... they used to be a small outfit selling Doc Martens and studs and spikes through the mail... you know, PUNK gear, none of this other shit. How times have changed.
My brother once attended a press conference for The Clash where the millionaire rockstar, the son of a diplomat who went to Westminster School, Joe Strummer called him yuppie scum for wearing a suit.
Quote from: GEWALTMONOPOL on December 29, 2014, 12:12:29 PM
My brother once attended a press conference for The Clash where the millionaire rockstar, the son of a diplomat who went to Westminster School, Joe Strummer called him yuppie scum for wearing a suit.
joe strummer's brother sounds way cooler than him
"[David] was a year older than me. Funnily enough, you know, he was a Nazi. He was a member of the National Front. He was into the occult and he used to have these deaths-heads and cross-bones all over everything. He didn't like to talk to anybody, and I think suicide was the only way out for him. What else could he have done[?]"
I remember I bought a shirt off AY&P in 2005.
Ten years ago.
It's 2015.
AY&P isn't new.
Lol
Double space, bitch.
http://youtu.be/CvYSPxvrq5s
Sums up these activist douche bags
Quote from: C601 on January 06, 2015, 03:44:46 PM
http://youtu.be/CvYSPxvrq5s
Sums up these activist douche bags
I had not heard of this "Atheism Plus" thing until looking at this. It reminds me of what C.S. Lewis wrote in The Screwtape Letters about "Christianity and..."; the idea of not just being a Christian but being a Christian "and" some personal bandwagon. When he wrote that, he was satirising the idea.
This was a sad happening.
I met Mr Wolinski several times back in the days and was definitely one of the most entertaining persons I ever met while working in comics.
A real horndog, completely unpc...
Of course if you provoke you can expect retribution, but the problem are not satirical writers, but these scumbags waving the banner of their peculiar perception of Islamism on European soil.
It was long expected that something like this would have happened in France. It is sad that they started striking some of the most gifted/daring artists I ever read/met.
Charlie Hebdo is a left-wing, weekly and highly satirical newspaper. It tackles issues concerning politics/politicians (both right AND left-wing), religion, culture, etc... It's a very important newspaper in France, has been around for 45 years, etc.
Quote from: Euro Trash Bazooka on January 09, 2015, 12:43:07 AM
Charlie Hebdo is a left-wing, weekly and highly satirical newspaper. It tackles issues concerning politics/politicians (both right AND left-wing), religion, culture, etc...
Exactly. The most recent edition, so I've read, had a cover making fun of Houellebecq, who's disdain for Islam in general is well known.
(http://publishingperspectives.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Charlie-Hebdo-236x300.jpg)
I wonder how much these "sex critical feminists" and other self-appointed guardians of morality know that Islamists
hate them and want them dead?
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on January 10, 2015, 02:20:21 AM
http://nymag.com/thecut/2015/01/manslamming-manspreading-microaggressions.html
This is actually true, about 10 years ago I also noticed that a lot of people just bump into you if you don't step aside. Might be mostly men indeed. However, obviously it's so typical to make it a feminist issue, while it's not. It's just that a lot of people often don't seem to think about where they are. Lost the count of how many people I've had nearly run into me because they just biking lanes without watching if someone is biking there...
Also, microagression, really?! Maybe the fact that a lot of people put so much importance on microagression seems that they actually should be happy. Or otherwise said, some people probably need more macroagression in their life so they wouldn't concentrate too much on trivial shit like this...
classic
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jan/13/charlie-hebdo-cover-right-image-prophet-muhammad-right
Too easy.
http://www.kirotv.com/ap/ap/washington/patronizing-prostitute-becomes-sex-exploitation-in/njm5H/
Dieudonné arrested over Facebook post on Paris gunman
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/14/dieudonne-arrest-facebook-post-charlie-coulibaly-paris-gunman
Saudi cleric issues fatwa on snowmen
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/12/saudi-arabia-snowmen-winter-fatwa
http://www.vice.com/en_au/read/snoppen-och-snippan-video-sweden-837 (http://www.vice.com/en_au/read/snoppen-och-snippan-video-sweden-837)
QuoteAfter all, "girls have vaginas, boys have penises" might be an upsetting thing to hear for a person born with a vagina who identifies as a boy. And in a country that had "gender-neutral" preschools all the way back in 2011, linking gender to genitals can come off as a fairly conservative message.
http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2015/01/12/kearns-trial-subsitute-teacher.html
Teacher shows ABC of Death to pupils and gets on trial.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/15/pope-francis-limits-to-freedom-of-expression
Has this been posted here? It's been making the rounds in the internet world.
http://imgur.com/a/94Jue
Butthurrrt?
Miami police use mugshots of black teens for target practice
(http://images.dazedcdn.com/786x700/dd/1100/4/1104726.jpg)
http://www.dazeddigital.com/artsandculture/article/23236/1/miami-police-use-mugshots-of-black-teens-for-target-practice (http://www.dazeddigital.com/artsandculture/article/23236/1/miami-police-use-mugshots-of-black-teens-for-target-practice)
- That's what I call equal rights mate .
Today's entertainment and study of dedication.
http://stopmasturbationnow.org/ (http://stopmasturbationnow.org/)
That's more religious than political. A bit of an easy target mate. But the article on Miley Cyrus was worth it.
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on January 23, 2015, 02:28:21 PM
That's more religious than political. A bit of an easy target mate. But the article on Miley Cyrus was worth it.
For sure, but I don't regard it as a target. This is a high and mighty blessed entertainment! heh! Well actually, there is some political explosive on the site as well. Read: Overtly racist and xenophobic, but in a dilluded and inbred form...
http://stopmasturbationnow.org/foreigners/who-is-more-disgusting-italians-or-brazilians/ (http://stopmasturbationnow.org/foreigners/who-is-more-disgusting-italians-or-brazilians/)
Though it is sooo out there I am beginning to think this is satire .... its impossible that people can be this daft.
And I only just found out the source for that Cyrus thing was a piss-take site. And I got sucked in! Fool me once...
...and so's that site. I've been drinking, that's my story and I'm sticking to it.
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on January 23, 2015, 02:43:37 PM
And I only just found out the source for that Cyrus thing was a piss-take site. And I got sucked in! Fool me once...
...and so's that site. I've been drinking, that's my story and I'm sticking to it.
hehe! That's the rule of the game mate!
We've been caught out, Mr Prowler. Best to admit it and move on, trying to avoid peoples' sneers.
Hæ!Hæ!!
The "Italian" in the picture is actually Bulgarian :)
Quote from: tiny_tove on January 23, 2015, 02:53:26 PM
The "Italian" in the picture is actually Bulgarian :)
I thought I had seen this guy surfing the web previously. Got to admire his confidence and trashy taste. Excellent.
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/01/not-a-very-pc-thing-to-say.html (http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/01/not-a-very-pc-thing-to-say.html)
Quote...political correctness is not a rigorous commitment to social equality so much as a system of left-wing ideological repression. Not only is it not a form of liberalism; it is antithetical to liberalism. Indeed, its most frequent victims turn out to be liberals themselves.
One of the former leaders of a very hardline communist party in Sweden recently handed in his membership card because he felt that political correctness had hi-jacked his party. In an open letter he denounced it as bourgeois. Very funny!
Everyday Self-Love Course; Turning Self-Love Into A Daily Habit.
http://everydayfeminism.com/everyday-self-love/?utm_source=website&utm_medium=link&utm_campaign=Courses-Page-to-Es (http://everydayfeminism.com/everyday-self-love/?utm_source=website&utm_medium=link&utm_campaign=Courses-Page-to-Es)
Quote(T)he truth is you do have inherent self-worth and you do deserve to be treated with love and compassion, especially by the most important person – YOU!
Identity politics turns new age money spinner...
(http://cdn.spectator.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/ste0.jpg)
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/feb/05/jihadist-girl-marry-liberation-failed-islamic-state
Quotehttp://www.nationalreview.com/article/398104/uc-berkeley-lecture-it-necessary-apply-transgender-studies-agriculture-katherine
Makes sense why gluten-free is so popular right now.
wiki-fucking-sexist-bygot-pedia: http://www.fastcompany.com/3041871/strong-female-lead/more-like-dude-ipedia-study-shows-wikipedias-sexist-bias
The definitive Australian dictionary, the Macquarie Dictionary, has awarded it's coveted Word Of The Year for 2014 to "mansplain".
https://www.macquariedictionary.com.au/resources/view/word/of/the/year/ (https://www.macquariedictionary.com.au/resources/view/word/of/the/year/)
Black Metal is racist and Finland Antifa have the proof.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl0Zfbxnb3M (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl0Zfbxnb3M)
QuoteAll of this slant toward social liberalism makes perfect sense to me, guys; a liberal society is good.
fixed :)
(http://40.media.tumblr.com/8ebd22f73496290ba745ec207f343848/tumblr_nhb1zw7Ak61rtcur5o1_500.png)
Quote from: THE RITA HN on February 09, 2015, 03:47:14 AM
Quotehttp://www.nationalreview.com/article/398104/uc-berkeley-lecture-it-necessary-apply-transgender-studies-agriculture-katherine
Makes sense why gluten-free is so popular right now.
Can you elaborate? I'm not seeing the connection between the linked article and your comment.
it was just a joke. gluten-free = no wheat (i always think of wheat being a classic poster child for agriculture).
Quote from: THE RITA HN on February 16, 2015, 07:31:34 AM
it was just a joke. gluten-free = no wheat (i always think of wheat being a classic poster child for agriculture).
Got you, sorry missed that altogether.
http://efukt.com/21217_Porn_Star_Goes_Ballistic_on_Modern_Feminists.html
Wah, wah, waaaah -
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/video/2015/feb/18/racial-preference-dating-racist-video
Is your Twitter account right-on enough?
http://twee-q.com/ (http://twee-q.com/)
Jiggaboo!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2965811/News-anchor-sparks-fury-accidentally-using-racial-slur-commenting-Lady-Gaga-s-Oscar-performance.html
http://youtu.be/U0YrG4pI004
Rather crazy:
How One Stupid Tweet Blew Up Justine Sacco's Life:
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/02/15/magazine/how-one-stupid-tweet-ruined-justine-saccos-life.html (http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/02/15/magazine/how-one-stupid-tweet-ruined-justine-saccos-life.html)
Quote from: Salamanauhat on February 24, 2015, 09:47:55 PM
Rather crazy:
How One Stupid Tweet Blew Up Justine Sacco's Life:
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/02/15/magazine/how-one-stupid-tweet-ruined-justine-saccos-life.html (http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/02/15/magazine/how-one-stupid-tweet-ruined-justine-saccos-life.html)
jon ronson, a sensible lefty!
How manly is the anthem of your beloved nation?
http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2015/feb/25/how-sexist-is-canadas-national-anthem-compared-with-others (http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2015/feb/25/how-sexist-is-canadas-national-anthem-compared-with-others)
Haha, come on! What a thing to even think about, let alone whine about...
http://pitchfork.com/thepitch/675-why-are-misogynist-lyrics-entertainment-in-2015/ (http://pitchfork.com/thepitch/675-why-are-misogynist-lyrics-entertainment-in-2015/)
QuoteInnovative provocateurs from Crass to Throbbing Gristle to Big Black to Whitehouse have served as templates for many bands that followed in their wake, though those bands' original, political contexts and critical voices have seemingly gotten lost in the replication. What we've wound up with are noise bands whose words rhetorically perpetuate violence, the element of satire no longer comprehensible.
Quote from: Si Clark on February 18, 2015, 03:08:43 PM
Wah, wah, waaaah -
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/video/2015/feb/18/racial-preference-dating-racist-video
what about preferences? personal obsessions? fetish?
If somebody likes fat chicks should he bang also pro-ana type for equal opportunity? Are these people even paid to write this?
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on February 21, 2015, 07:51:00 AM
Is your Twitter account right-on enough?
http://twee-q.com/ (http://twee-q.com/)
"Not bad. Still a few meters from an equal retweeting - but it's getting there!" do twitter robots7spammer count?
I have an expert in engeneering and industrial power electronics (the market not the lifestyle) retwitting everything I post with that tag
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on February 26, 2015, 11:30:58 PM
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on February 26, 2015, 12:11:08 PM
http://pitchfork.com/thepitch/675-why-are-misogynist-lyrics-entertainment-in-2015/ (http://pitchfork.com/thepitch/675-why-are-misogynist-lyrics-entertainment-in-2015/)
QuoteInnovative provocateurs from Crass to Throbbing Gristle to Big Black to Whitehouse have served as templates for many bands that followed in their wake, though those bands' original, political contexts and critical voices have seemingly gotten lost in the replication. What we've wound up with are noise bands whose words rhetorically perpetuate violence, the element of satire no longer comprehensible.
I listened to that Anal Hygienics record the other day. I didn't find it as interesting as the writer but I didn't have access to the lyrics.
I'm listening to the LP and enjoying the lyrical sheet as I type this...I don't understand her gripe with this release...if anything, "Even the Flies Won't Touch You" is far more "dangerous". The mood behind this effort is different, it is a liberating excursion into coming to terms with being a scumbag and not caring at all about the consequences. The track "When I'm Alone" is the only song that even references a female in a "negative" light (and I use that term very, very loosely...). I'm good friends with the RH boys and they're true to their art...most of the blog universe/crybabies that would even think to break down "Ultimate Purity" are just looking for another excuse to complain. I'm glad that these tourists want to stay away...keep it that way. There is more than enough safe music for them to gobble up.
I downloaded "Even The Flies..." from Bandcamp, the lyrics are there. I quite like it, I'm grateful to Ms. Skolnik for the introduction.
When you've got someone writing stuff like "As a person living in a genderfucked body that was assigned female identity at birth and has been mostly read as female by society since..." you know you're not dealing with someone who's very comfortable about being who they are and is blaming everyone else for that discomfort. She gives some "further clarification" on her blog (scroll down a bit).
http://themodernistwitch.tumblr.com/ (http://themodernistwitch.tumblr.com/)
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on February 27, 2015, 03:01:14 AM
I downloaded "Even The Flies..." from Bandcamp, the lyrics are there. I quite like it, I'm grateful to Ms. Skolnik for the introduction.
When you've got someone writing stuff like "As a person living in a genderfucked body that was assigned female identity at birth and has been mostly read as female by society since..." you know you're not dealing with someone who's very comfortable about being who they are and is blaming everyone else for that discomfort. She gives some "further clarification" on her blog (scroll down a bit).
http://themodernistwitch.tumblr.com/ (http://themodernistwitch.tumblr.com/)
It was difficult to even make it halfway down that page. Some of the questions she gets are almost as entertaining as her own posts. Where did all of these pussies come from? It looks to me that a lot of the younger crowd that have an issue with the social commentary within Power Electroncs are the same type of people that should be sporting Hardcore/Powerviolence merchandise, but by a hint of luck, re-blogged a photograph of a live Whitehouse set (punk isn't outsider enough for 'em anymore!) and became "gurus" of misguided information in their tourist fantasyland.
Disliking anything aggressive aurally (someone on her page had made a remark about the inherent white heterosexuality in the United States Power Electronics scene) for it's appeal towards straight males is like being interested in baseball and being offended by the shape of the field (a diamond). Do these morons not realize that the genres in which they are attempting to "recreate in their image of a perfect world" have existed since the early 80's (far longer than they've had their Tumblrs...) and highlighted taboo topics with the intent to be offensive, or rather, make the listener feel uncomfortable in a disturbing sonic environment? Do they even do research before slandering things or is it okay to be this stupid?
Quote from: Peterson on February 27, 2015, 05:57:59 PM
I've got to say, it's pretty odd to me how rape-obsessed/porn-obsessed/violence-obsessed/nazi-obsessed/general-butthurt-and-pc-faggotry-obsessed/wahwahwah-obsessed some of the posters on this board can be.
Quote from: Peterson on February 27, 2015, 05:57:59 PM
You've got to wonder what they're hiding. ;)
I missed that little message from "Altoidking". I suppose if he/she/it is "turned off" by a scene he/she/it is "weirdly" involved in, it would be best if he/she/it and his/her/it's jolly chums do a Wolf Eyes, decide that Noise is dead and go on to play alt. country on ukuleles, or whatever "the kids" these days are fucking doing.
Quote from: Peterson on February 27, 2015, 05:57:59 PMI've got to say, it's pretty odd to me how rape-obsessed some of these women can be. I've known a lot of people who've been assaulted sexually in various ways, men and women, and none of them are nearly as concerned within defining themselves by these experiences. I genuinely don't understand where it's coming from unless there's a...less easily explicable interest, so to speak.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFvkxt5ujxg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFvkxt5ujxg)
I
am a cassette recorder trapped in the body of a man, damn you! (Older article, but amusing).
http://gawker.com/5940947/from-otherkin-to-transethnicity-your-field-guide-to-the-weird-world-of-tumblr-identity-politics (http://gawker.com/5940947/from-otherkin-to-transethnicity-your-field-guide-to-the-weird-world-of-tumblr-identity-politics)
Quote"The relationship between legitimate social justice activists and delusional weirdos is ever-changing and gives fascinating insights into how activist communities work,"
As a lapsed anarchist, I can so testify. Some of the most delusional weirdies I've met have been drawn to the anarcho scene because that's pretty much where the political weirdies all go once they've done their dash everywhere else.
https://uk.lifestyle.yahoo.com/blogs/icymi/tripadvisor-removes--feminist--review-from-site-115141937.html
http://anarcutie.tumblr.com/post/108535888511 (http://anarcutie.tumblr.com/post/108535888511)
salute.
https://uk.celebrity.yahoo.com/gossip/omg/dolce-gabbana-hit-back-elton-john-boycott-music-icon-074931910.html
Quote from: Vermin Marvin on March 13, 2015, 05:00:02 PM
http://anarcutie.tumblr.com/post/108535888511 (http://anarcutie.tumblr.com/post/108535888511)
salute.
https://youtu.be/xwMOC5i2eRk
http://uproxx.com/webculture/2015/03/amber-rose-slut-walk/ (http://uproxx.com/webculture/2015/03/amber-rose-slut-walk/)
QuoteMy Slut Walk will be about every Woman Equality issue we deal with everyday. U can walk and make signs for the issues ur passionate about. I'm in the beginning stages of putting this together but with ur help this could be an amazing liberating experience for us women.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/mar/17/calling-out-one-racist-white-people-complicit-supremacy
great piece of journalism!
Arrested for a t-shirt
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/11434535/German-protester-who-wore-University-of-Auschwitz-1941-T-shirt-faces-prison.html
A few years ago I was at a art/science festival in Austria and I was speaking about robotics with the assistant of DR Hiroshi Ishiguro, creator of several androids and robots. After a few minutes I noticed that the young Japanese student was wearing a pink t-shirt with the fences of a concentration camp and auschwitz written in gothic... He bought this in Tokyo.
QuoteI am a person of colour and a journalist and so there are two conflicting voices inside my head.
?!
Quote from: tiny_tove on March 21, 2015, 11:02:13 PM
A few years ago I was at a art/science festival in Austria and I was speaking about robotics with the assistant of DR Hiroshi Ishiguro, creator of several androids and robots. After a few minutes I noticed that the young Japanese student was wearing a pink t-shirt with the fences of a concentration camp and auschwitz written in gothic... He bought this in Tokyo.
Cultural differences. Japan is a country in which bands such as Rommel, Harkenkreuz, Rosenfeld, etc can exist without it creating major issues.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/mar/27/im-not-a-nipple-nazi-im-a-breastfeeding-counsellor
always in love with the guardian
I wish you could all read Italian to laugh about this:
http://www.internazionale.it/opinione/chiara-lalli/2015/03/31/teoria-gender-diritti
Let's start paying for inmates sex changes just because it's the PC thing to do.
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/judge-orders-california-pay-inmates-sex-change-n334981
"The bottom line is no one should be denied the medical care they need." NEED?! Hah!
http://betanews.com/2015/03/16/mozilla-approves-nazi-themed-anti-feminism-firefox-extension/ (http://betanews.com/2015/03/16/mozilla-approves-nazi-themed-anti-feminism-firefox-extension/)
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/03/ellen-pao-and-the-sexism-you-cant-quite-prove.html?mid=twitter_cut (http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/03/ellen-pao-and-the-sexism-you-cant-quite-prove.html?mid=twitter_cut)
QuoteAnd the problem is that sexism today very often is not overt. It's subtle, and that makes it all the more difficult to identify and root out. It's not your boss hitting on you and then demoting you to secretary when you spurn his advances. It's your boss describing your assertiveness as too assertive, and suggesting you might be better suited for an operational role. It's not your being asked to fix the coffees at a client meeting. It's Cocktail Party Guy forcing you to return the conversation to business, so you have an opportunity to develop him as a source rather than talking about dogs for 20 minutes.
more tits
http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2015/apr/06/free-the-nipple-liberation-photos-breasts
The Beards (whoever they might be, I guess some band) felt that it was too mainstream to make noise that praises violence against women:
(https://scontent-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xta1/v/t1.0-9/11091142_10152794729138457_1787139480897971441_n.jpg?oh=a15b36389a218eb6fce7c5325dc93536&oe=55A7CBDB)
I had no idea bearded men were able to have a mangina but oh how wrong I was...
Feminists in Spain don't want men to meet women because patriarchy or rape culture or something.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/08/spains-caravans-of-women-come-under-attack (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/08/spains-caravans-of-women-come-under-attack)
QuoteEvery woman is free to do what they want, but this doesn't make it right to hold an event that is negative for women and an insult to everyone else.
https://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/world-of-sport/lewis-hamilton-caught-up-in-sexism-row-following-conduct-at-chinese-grand-prix-101912459.html
fucking hell
Heh. From my personal experience. Our workplace was asked to form a group of specialists to visit a seminar in USA embassy a week ago. And the group was rejected because... there were too many men (the field I work in is mostly men). And then the group was reformed from various companies to include mostly women in order to satisfy "gender equality" factor. It's not that I'm very offended by losing the possibility to have a cup of good american coffee tomorrow morning, but it's an interesting step.
Liverpool FC to 'take action' against fan who posted picture of two Muslim men praying at Anfield during half-time and labelled it a 'disgrace'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3040247/Liverpool-FC-action-against-fan-posted-picture-Muslims-praying-Anfield.html
And not only that but: "Campaigners have called for football clubs to install prayer rooms so Muslim fans can pray in peace and avoid the possibility of anti-Islamic abuse."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeW7xwxmXeE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeW7xwxmXeE)
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/11/were-lincoln-nixon-gay-history-book-divides-america (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/11/were-lincoln-nixon-gay-history-book-divides-america)
QuoteThe American People is likely to rankle with historians as there is no evidence many of historical figures were gay.
Quote"It may look like fiction, but to me, it's not,"
QuoteWhether it is absolutely accurate or not, The American People speaks to a need across gay and straight communities to revise historical accounts from which sexual orientation was absent.
(Emphasis mine).
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on April 22, 2015, 03:26:55 AM
QuoteWhether it is absolutely accurate or not, The American People speaks to a need across gay and straight communities to revise historical accounts from which sexual orientation was absent.
(Emphasis mine).
Good idea! And about time at that.
4:8 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.
(wasn't sure where to place the emphasis, and on second thought no revision needed)
QuoteThe phrase "trigger warning" may itself be triggering to some trauma survivors.
EDIT - bit of a treasure trove of made-up bullshit, that site. For example -
QuoteThe term grunch means the sensation a woman has when she was for a time free of conscious awareness of the male gaze and did not feel othered, but is then reminded in some way that she is a woman first and a geek (or colleague, or writer, etc) a distant second. - "Grunch" (and the verb "grunched") appear to have been coined by Dorothea Salo in 2002, who also used "grunchy" as an adjective for discussions about sexism. A woman can feel a grunch happening when she walks into a "glass door".
At this rate we'll all be talking Newspeak by the end of the year.
Golf player says he's a woman, world changes for the better.
http://www.vice.com/en_au/read/bruce-jenners-coming-out-is-the-millennial-moon-landing-253 (http://www.vice.com/en_au/read/bruce-jenners-coming-out-is-the-millennial-moon-landing-253)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71swxdSzY1w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71swxdSzY1w)
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on April 30, 2015, 10:00:21 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71swxdSzY1w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71swxdSzY1w)
I only listened to this song for a minute this morning but the god damn chorus keeps going round my head. I can't even begin to describe how amazingly terrible this is.
One of the most difficult songs to listen to.
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on April 30, 2015, 10:00:21 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71swxdSzY1w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71swxdSzY1w)
My inital reaction is: This must be a joke! No one can be this cheesy and utmost stupid. Video is awful, music is awful, lyrics is full of cliches, customes is awful, coregraphy is awful, the music video''s overstatements are awful, the people are awful - damn hippies! - and when that rasta glide set in I get enraged! HATE!
Edit: Had to kill the music at 0:49.
Have you tried reading the disclaimer? actual artists and free-thinking musicians.
(http://i.imgur.com/VZpAwqD.png)
I looked them up on discogs, they have been going for years.
Quote from: Levas on April 30, 2015, 07:28:23 PM
Have you tried reading the disclaimer? actual artists and free-thinking musicians.
(http://i.imgur.com/VZpAwqD.png)
HEHE! I watch the video in my own permitted way!! And yea B.W.... though they had one non-caucasian incl a woman I believe. So quota maxed out!
Hippy white-reggae is a fecal genre of it's own. I have no idea why hippies suddenly decided to play reggae other than the marijuana connection. Hippies used to have decent enough music when they were fucking around with psychedelic rock but they threw that away when they went from being urban junky pan-handlers to becoming tree-fucking ferals.
I've encountered similar bands down here, some years ago, so it's been going on for a while. They emanate an aura of smugness that is difficult to match. These are people who have utterly deluded themselves, like some weird cult. I admit that Oz ferals have been worth-while in on-site protests, so I'll give them that. I've never been out on such blockades but friends have and have told me there have been clashes between the so-called "non violent faction" and themselves (calling themselves the "ultra violent faction" at the time). But I respect that fact that some of them are prepared to put their bodies on the line for what they believe in, and if it means stopping a section of forest being logged to woodchip destruction I'll barrack for them.
Like Online Prowler my initial reaction was "surely you jest?!". It became funnier when I found out they meant it. I haven't listened to the whole song either, I don't think it's physically possible unless you're one of them. The production values of their videos tell me Omnia have some cash source. Hippies/ferals have always usually come from a fairly middle-class background. You don't just live the life of an "artist" and "do what you want" without the bucks to back it up, not unless you're okay with sleeping in sewers and not eating for days. I don't think it's just the social security system in The Netherlands that allows them to buy such fancy uniforms.
The chicks are hot, though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lZGhh41W9k (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lZGhh41W9k)
THIS:
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on May 01, 2015, 07:04:16 AM
I haven't listened to the whole song either, I don't think it's physically possible unless you're one of them.
I laughed so hard my eyeballs pop-ped out of their sockets !!!
Other than that.... well served Andrew! And btw... thanx for the pub-troubadour rockers link !
---- And more of this please:
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on May 01, 2015, 01:08:46 AM
They definitely need some Blacks, Asians, Transgender, etc. Basically one of every type of person real & made up.
.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on May 01, 2015, 01:08:46 AM
Diversity is great but only when everyone is different but believe the same thing.
Well spoken re hypocrisy B.W.!
No worries mate.
In the meantime - state sponsored punk.
http://www.theguardian.com/music/2015/apr/09/boston-declares-riot-grrrl-day-to-inspire-its-young-women (http://www.theguardian.com/music/2015/apr/09/boston-declares-riot-grrrl-day-to-inspire-its-young-women)
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on May 02, 2015, 04:09:06 AM
No worries mate.
In the meantime - state sponsored punk.
http://www.theguardian.com/music/2015/apr/09/boston-declares-riot-grrrl-day-to-inspire-its-young-women (http://www.theguardian.com/music/2015/apr/09/boston-declares-riot-grrrl-day-to-inspire-its-young-women)
so this guy is right http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/sex-pistols-were-financed-by-ussr-to-destabilize-western-world-admits-ex-kgb-agent/
well not completely wrong, but the them of the article is definitely butthurt
http://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/may/06/miu-miu-ad-banned-vogue-magazine-mia-goth
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-05-08/open-drum-why-i-chose-to-have-my-skin-branded/6454040 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-05-08/open-drum-why-i-chose-to-have-my-skin-branded/6454040)
QuoteI felt the hand holding me to the ground and I clenched my jaw and screwed my eyes shut tight awaiting the pain. No amount of preparation would have helped. The pain lanced through me, shocking me and causing me to cry out. I heard the hiss of my skin blistering. I saw the smoke rising from my shoulder and the smell of my own burning flesh filled my nostrils. I have a mark on my arm where I bit myself hard to stop from crying out again. The pain kept coming. My skin was burning from the inside now and it came in waves. When I opened my eyes, there was a man standing across the park watching. He looked horrified.
One day, though, I woke up. I now walk down the supermarket aisles and see the products for what they are. Shelves stacked with the corpses of innocent beings who wanted to live. Shelves full of the products of abused reproductive systems. I look at a steak and hear their screams. When I hear the splash of milk, I see a struggling bobby calf being ripped from his mother. I woke up. But only to find everyone else still sleeping.
most people I know who branded hismelf was for pure pleasure.
this person seem to be a latent bdsm slave in need of a cruel master. possible postergirl for clinic of torture
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3R6bqSzAsc8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3R6bqSzAsc8)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PZ7p37g3cE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PZ7p37g3cE)
Quote"Auschwitz begins whenever someone looks at a slaughterhouse and thinks: they are only animals". Adorno.
http://www.avclub.com/article/mad-men-mad-mad-max-having-mad-women-219391 :D
Don't worry Tim. Others have seen the new MM movie for the feminist utopia it is.
http://www.vice.com/en_au/read/the-new-mad-max-movie-is-both-badass-and-totally-feminist-944 (http://www.vice.com/en_au/read/the-new-mad-max-movie-is-both-badass-and-totally-feminist-944)
QuoteDirector George Miller asked Eve Ensler, author of the Vagina Monologues, to come meet with the cast and crew, and especially spend time with the women playing the escaped breeders. Miller wanted the actresses to learn about exploited women around the world, and work with Ensler to better replicate the characterizations and dynamics of such a group.
Because nothing says authenticity like a middle-class white woman telling other middle-class white women about how to be exploited.
I'm not worried, I'm laughing at idiots getting upset because a movie has a woman in it :D
I'll grant you this - anti-feminists are even more stupid than the people they oppose. It's one thing to be amused, bemused or even annoyed by some pundit complaining about an ad or an item of clothing being sexist, or declaring some element of pop culture being "empowering". It's another entirely to base a whole ideology on contradicting them. The whole thing ends up as a circle of whinging shit.
And anyone who calls himself "Captain Capitalism" is in dire need of a boot to the head.
http://captaincapitalism.blogspot.com.au/2015/05/my-response-to-fury-over-mad-max.html (http://captaincapitalism.blogspot.com.au/2015/05/my-response-to-fury-over-mad-max.html)
I'll definitely be watching Fury Road, I've been a fan of those movies for decades. I'm not interested in any "message", I want to see weird looking cars being shot out of a cannon and people in bizarre make-up killing each other with huge metal weapons. I want to see that giant sand-storm throwing vehicles around like paper. And if there's a few half-naked hot chicks involved I'm all for that. I find there's enough said about society, and humans as a whole, in those movies for me without anyone having to interpret it as "feminist" or not - no matter which side of the mass debate they're mass debating.
Terrible film, like a fast and furious trailer dragged out to film length.
Are others than white males still allowed to die in movies or is it already intolerant? i'm slightly behind all this fad of seeing messages
Pretty sure the token black guy dying first and other such cliches are still a meme however 'politically correct' some nerds on reddit think the media is :D
The bad guy will ALWAYS be an ambiguously gay white english man so we can always cry crocodile tears about that one regardless of how ridiculously underrepresented or not the rest of the world continues to be :D
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on May 15, 2015, 04:17:54 AM
And anyone who calls himself "Captain Capitalism" is in dire need of a boot to the head.
The ads on that site! I'm dying :D
(http://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7782/17386002636_f306d8971d_n.jpg)
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7317/12525850364_6b2e335a5d_o.jpg)
http://citizen.co.za/383598/i-love-hitler-as-he-starved-white-people-dlamini/
"Hitler took white people and killed them. Hitler took white people [and] starved them to death, the same way they did to black people. That's why they hate him. I love Adolf Hitler for that," Dlamini said during his address to the students who clapped and cheered."
symbolist sculpture representing hommage to mother-earth causes stirs among feminists
http://www.floptv.tv/flog/il-meglio-del-peggio/donna-carota-nuda-expo-polemiche/?utm_content=buffera55bb&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer
Bandidos are not a strictly "white only" group as others.
And the pictures of the arrested gentlemen are evident: http://www.ksat.com/content/pns/ksat/news/2015/05/19/-retired-sapd-officer-arrested-in-waco-biker-gang-shootout.html
This lady wrote a pile of garbage without knowing what she was talking about.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3090215/Retired-police-detective-arrested-Waco-shootout-fired-job-school-bus-driver-emerges-bikers-escape-toughest-charges-county-t-afford-prosecute-170-them.html
Well...
http://bossip.com/1144542/really-cnn-singles-out-only-black-biker-involved-in-waco-shooting/ (http://bossip.com/1144542/really-cnn-singles-out-only-black-biker-involved-in-waco-shooting/)
...you just can't win.
what about this Gentleman?
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/05/19/00/28D67AD600000578-3086950-image-a-188_1431991308413.jpg)
what about the several chicanos part of the fat Mexican crew?
This is what I mean. Mesdame Cooper of the exquisitely named "Salon" site tells us that because all bikers are white (even though they're not) the media and the public have a different attitude towards them than towards "people of colour" ("For many Americans, this is just good ole American fun, sort of like playing Cowboys-and-Indians in real life."!!) When it transpires that at least one person involved in the shooting isn't white, someone else comes up and says "that'd be right, pick on the one non white guy". It's a game. Who can be the most right-on without having anything to do with anything.
Like I state, you can't win.
indeed.
from what I have been reading in the past years nobody can say that MCs are privileged in the eyes of justice... sometime reasonably :)
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/may/29/abortion-video-tutorial-ads-shock-chile-amid-debate-on-easing-ban
http://theecosexuals.ucsc.edu/ (http://theecosexuals.ucsc.edu/)
http://theecosexuals.ucsc.edu/earthlove/ (http://theecosexuals.ucsc.edu/earthlove/)
That petition worked.
https://www.change.org/p/association-of-writers-and-writing-conferences-remove-vanessa-place-from-the-awp-los-angeles-conference-committee/u/10802081 (https://www.change.org/p/association-of-writers-and-writing-conferences-remove-vanessa-place-from-the-awp-los-angeles-conference-committee/u/10802081)
QuoteNever let anyone tell you that internet activism doesn't work!
Heaven forfend.
My favourite part osf the petition were this -
QuoteWe acknowledge Place's right to exercise her creativity...
- which is the limp-lefty version of "I'm not racist/sexist/whateverist but...". It's how you censor people without actually censoring them. And also this -
QuoteHer recent work with "Gone with the Wind" re-inscribes that text's racism--she does not abate it--in the flesh of every descendant of slaves.
Tweets carving words into peoples' bodies. Or maybe that's just a touch of poetic licence.
Incidentally, the individual who started the petition is also a "poet". You can find examples of his "work" here -
http://www.seveneightfive.com/785art/lit-film/top-city-poet-timothy-volpert/ (http://www.seveneightfive.com/785art/lit-film/top-city-poet-timothy-volpert/)
QuoteI had all this symbolic shit
I wanted to say to her
all this meaning I was desperate to impart
but I was just some guy, you know?
This was all just an academic bum fight.
I guess this got lost in the poet's mix?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7t4pTNZshA
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Remember seeing the page for that video a couple of days ago but the actual video didn't work for me. Just had a quick look.
Didn't realise it was Ms. Mattress Actress. It sure pays to accuse someone of "rape". A career is born.
EDIT - http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jun/09/emma-sulkowiczs-this-is-not-a-site-taken-down-by-cyberattack (http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jun/09/emma-sulkowiczs-this-is-not-a-site-taken-down-by-cyberattack)
QuoteThough Sulkowicz said her friends and family have been very supportive in private, she said it can hurt when friends don't support her in public and online. "The trolls don't upset me as much as when my friends don't support it," she said. "I expect the trolls but to see my friends not support it [vocally] is upsetting."
Personal favourites -
"This was tough to jerk off to. Still...".
"It took me five years to learn that I was raped as a teenager because nobody ever bothered to clearly define about what rape actually was, what it looked like, how nuanced its delivery could be."
"Good for Emma, even if I might not understand, her efforts seem sincere. I wish you much success in life."
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jun/10/tim-hunt-science-prejudice-against-women
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/lego-sorry-over-window-licker-toy-102309028.html#4wQAOdQ
today the Guardian seemed to be more nonsense than usual:
off we go
Sir Hunt resigns after comments on girls in class
http://www.theguardian.com/education/2015/jun/11/nobel-laureate-sir-tim-hunt-resigns-trouble-with-girls-comments
Game of thrones too nasty to be appreciated by liberals
http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/tvandradioblog/2015/jun/10/has-game-of-thrones-season-five-been-too-brutal-to-enjoy
Hands off the book cover
http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2015/jun/10/jilly-cooper-riders-makeover-and-the-end-of-innocence-sex
second version is better since it features boots!
update
just so great
http://www.theguardian.com/books/2015/jun/11/no-men-allowed-publisher-accepts-novelists-year-of-women-challenge
http://herself.com/ (http://herself.com/)
On the other hand -
http://www.reddit.com/r/NoFap/ (http://www.reddit.com/r/NoFap/)
Not according to them.
http://www.nofap.com/about (http://www.nofap.com/about)
QuoteNoFap is not a religious website. NoFap approaches the matter of porn addiction from a secular, science-based viewpoint. We do not take a stance on the morality of pornography use or masturbation. We think there is a growing body of both scientific and anecdotal evidence that pornography can be addictive and harm many users. We rely on that evidence to form our opinions rather than on religious scripture or doctrine. Alexander Rhodes, NoFap's founder, is openly non-religious. Others associated with the organization come from a wide variety of backgrounds and beliefs, and we encourage our users to practice spirituality to quit porn if they find it helpful. We recognize that we will help the most people by turning no one away based on their religious faith or lack thereof.
But they're not against wanking -
QuoteNoFap is not an anti-masturbation website. A clear majority of NoFap's users and administrators alike agree that there's nothing inherently wrong with masturbation. A small number of users may believe otherwise, perhaps due to their moral principles, but find NoFap's broad-minded approach works better for them than the moralistic focus of "chastity" websites that dot the Internet. NoFap does not encourage lifelong abstinence from masturbation or sexual behavior. Rather, we encourage our users to abstain for a period of time for the duration of their reboots—typically around ninety days. While some abstain for longer periods of time—even for life—most of our users then return to masturbation having freed themselves of the need to use pornography. Our users choose what is healthiest for them and best serves their goals.
They are against porn addiction. For SCIENCE! And MORALITY! That's not religion. Let's be absolutely clear about that.
"secular" is a word I love
hero
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3121061/Local-NAACP-leader-professor-African-studies-outed-WHITE-parents-convincing-community-black-years.html
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CHSN9teWIAAEzM4.jpg)
http://www.ibtimes.com/wrong-skin-hoax-real-godfrey-elfwick-rachel-dolezal-spark-heated-twitter-debate-1964814 (http://www.ibtimes.com/wrong-skin-hoax-real-godfrey-elfwick-rachel-dolezal-spark-heated-twitter-debate-1964814)
Our struggle is your struggle is definitely true. Even when things would probably start as basic internet prank, it will probably result horde of people who are awaken to issue at hand and it becomes struggle to try to ignore all this nonsense, hah...
Who's next? Men born with just one dick, but identify as man with two cocks.
http://www.experienceproject.com/groups/Am-A-Male-Lesbian/406470 (http://www.experienceproject.com/groups/Am-A-Male-Lesbian/406470)
http://amalelesbian.blogspot.com.au/ (http://amalelesbian.blogspot.com.au/)
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on June 15, 2015, 11:11:36 AM
Who's next? Men born with just one dick, but identify as man with two cocks.
Graham Chapman WAS RIGHT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebWQMP9dZiQ
I really amazed the level of dysmorphic pathologies are turning into political garbage and even taken into account.
http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/jun/15/women-cycling-race-apologise-bikini-models-belgium-lotto
epic fail
ah I think he is taking the piss
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/04/17/star-wars-reeks-of-misogyny-sjw-satirist-punks-bbc-world-service/
Quote from: tiny_tove on June 12, 2015, 05:56:21 PM
hero
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3121061/Local-NAACP-leader-professor-African-studies-outed-WHITE-parents-convincing-community-black-years.html
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basically this gal took the infamous ministrel show to a new level
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/44/25/7a/44257a073edd1e7f5c16d5fe36429764.jpg)
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/bizarre/rachel-dolezal-discrimination-lawsuit-786451 (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/bizarre/rachel-dolezal-discrimination-lawsuit-786451)
Thought this also might be a prank. Right now it's impossible to tell delusion from reality.
http://www.factmag.com/2015/06/18/pussy-riot-nadya-tolokonnikova-terry-richardson-photo-shoot/ (http://www.factmag.com/2015/06/18/pussy-riot-nadya-tolokonnikova-terry-richardson-photo-shoot/)
as much as I like Richardson, much better the pussy riot cockroach shoot of some years ago
The girls of PETA -
(http://resources3.news.com.au/images/2015/04/13/1227302/145391-bacc1f4c-e1a4-11e4-b60a-424ceb2f883c.jpg)
(http://resources3.news.com.au/images/2015/04/13/1227302/144959-b25d7ba8-e1a4-11e4-b60a-424ceb2f883c.jpg)
(http://knguyen.typepad.com/20091009_2dfp_3756327_goff_peta_protest_100709_small.jpg)
(http://hightechnocracy.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/nakedpeta012.jpg)
(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01496/protest-peta-reute_1496741c.jpg)
(http://plancksconstant.org/blog1/image3/sub4/peta-ads-007.jpg)
(http://www.inquisitr.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/PETA-665x385.jpg)
I would organize wrestling sessions betweeb peta girls and femen
Quote from: tiny_tove on June 18, 2015, 05:01:35 PM
I would organize wrestling sessions betweeb peta girls and femen
Total support in that. I would pay top dollar to experience it!
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Beware of the Pakisaurus
https://uk.yahoo.com/movies/is-one-of-the-jurassic-world-dinosaurs-racist-122157566891.html
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on June 21, 2015, 05:11:47 AM
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yeah pretty good summary :3
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/06/22/barack-obama-compared-to-weak-black-coffee-in-racist-joke-tweeted-israeli-ministers-wife-judy-mozes_n_7634906.html
Harrumph, it's time for more grumpy commentary on the latest politically correct issue. Harrumph I declaim! ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUk42TYdP0I (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUk42TYdP0I) )
http://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/jun/25/rose-mcgowan-i-was-fired-for-flagging-adam-sandler-casting-call-sexism (http://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/jun/25/rose-mcgowan-i-was-fired-for-flagging-adam-sandler-casting-call-sexism)
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on June 24, 2015, 09:30:04 PMThe author is a teacher & porn star
"Sex expert" according to his twitter. Hey, me too. Strictly extracurricular, mind.
I realise Pitchfork is like The Guardian for music, but this particular piece rates for me as a great example of right-on revisionism.
http://pitchfork.com/thepitch/813-the-comedic-gold-of-the-decline-of-western-civilization/ (http://pitchfork.com/thepitch/813-the-comedic-gold-of-the-decline-of-western-civilization/)
I don't know or care how accurate "DWC" is as a document of punk at the time (I know Jello Biafra complained that it was "slanted" due to the footage of Fear), but at least it has some spirit of punk before the right-on rot set in. Alas, our scribe Hazel Cills (who is also "a staff writer for the teen website, Rookie Mag") seems to think that punk began with Minor Threat or something. Wonder how she'd deal with bands like The Nihilistics or Anal Cunt. As far as she's concerned "the vision of punk that emerges is not as a threatening mass of rebellion and politics, but one that plays almost like a satire of itself".
But she does like Pharmakon. Pharmakon is "sound art (http://pitchfork.com/thepitch/556-pharmakon-sound-art-and-expressing-bodily-disturbance-through-noise/)".
lol
although I enjoyed Marina Abramovic's old days work, whenever I hear her name now I cannot stop thinking of the lady gaga connection and the dreadful figure she mada claiming Jay Z was somehow a crook:
http://pitchfork.com/news/59629-marina-abramovic-says-cruel-jay-z-completely-used-her-for-picasso-baby-stunt/
and then
http://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2015/may/20/jay-z-substantial-donation-maria-abramovic
Abramovic has been a bit of a media darling down here lately because she's had a recent gig at the MONA (https://www.mona.net.au/). I'm admitting that more and more I'm becoming a philistine when it comes to a lot of modern and post-modern art. For the moment I'll just draw a line after the abstract impressionists and say everything after them was a pile of fucking self-important shit. After Rothko, nothing, as it should have been.
EDIT - as if to prove my point -
http://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2015/jul/01/marina-abramovic-reveals-plans-for-her-funeral-the-artists-last-piece (http://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2015/jul/01/marina-abramovic-reveals-plans-for-her-funeral-the-artists-last-piece)
Maybe I should start a thread on artistic faggotry.
http://www.theguardian.com/culture/2015/jun/30/william-tell-gang-rape-scene-royal-opera-house
PC at the opera
Video for a song called "Bitch Better Have My Money" offends sixteen year old writer for the New Statesman.
http://www.newstatesman.com/june-eric-udorie/2015/07/rihannas-success-inspiring-her-new-video-violently-misogynist (http://www.newstatesman.com/june-eric-udorie/2015/07/rihannas-success-inspiring-her-new-video-violently-misogynist)
Quote from: Si Clark on July 04, 2015, 09:53:45 PM
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jul/04/barbecue-american-tradition-enslaved-africans-native-americans
QuoteBarbecue ... is intensely political
Jesus fucking christ.
But you're right about the comments. Personal favourite -
Quote"Startling new revelations in the field of revisionist history proves conclusively that Europeans did not eat food until roughly the 18th century, when they saw slaves doing it."
EDIT - and The Guardian is off the blocks a little late, but running with it anyway -
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jul/05/rihannas-video-bitch-better-have-my-money-misogynistic (http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jul/05/rihannas-video-bitch-better-have-my-money-misogynistic)
Good old Barbara Ellen. I often think these writers are all just taking the piss. It's just too fucking
easy.
Oh dear - I think Ms. Eric-Udorie from The New Statesman is in dire need of re-education by the black sisterhood.
http://www.blackgirldangerous.org/2015/07/this-is-what-rihannas-bbhmm-video-says-about-black-women-white-women-and-feminism/# (http://www.blackgirldangerous.org/2015/07/this-is-what-rihannas-bbhmm-video-says-about-black-women-white-women-and-feminism/#)
It's Sunday and I've got nothing better to do, so here's another one for you all. A poem this time -
http://www.thefeministwire.com/2015/07/3-poems-by-joshua-jennifer-espinoza/ (http://www.thefeministwire.com/2015/07/3-poems-by-joshua-jennifer-espinoza/)
THE MOON IS TRANS
The moon is trans.
From this moment forward, the moon is trans.
You don't get to write about the moon anymore unless you respect that.
You don't get to talk to the moon anymore unless you use her correct pronouns.
You don't get to send men to the moon anymore unless their job is
to bow down before her and apologize for the sins of the earth.
She is waiting for you, pulling at you softly,
telling you to shut the fuck up already please.
Scientists theorize the moon was once a part of the earth
that broke off when another planet struck it.
Eve came from Adam's rib.
Etc.
Do you believe in the power of not listening
to the inside of your own head?
I believe in the power of you not listening
to the inside of your own head.
This is all upside down.
We should be talking about the ways that blood
is similar to the part of outer space between the earth and the moon
but we're busy drawing it instead.
The moon is often described as dead, though she is very much alive.
The moon has not known the feeling of not wanting to be dead
for any extended period of time
in all of her existence, but
she is not delicate and she is not weak.
She is constantly moving away from you the only way she can.
She never turns her face from you because of what you might do.
She will outlive everything you know.
Peppa Pig, definitive UNPC icon.
Hated by Muslims, vegans and LGBT community.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3144964/It-s-time-LESBIAN-Peppa-Pig-Lib-Dem-leadership-hopeful-says-gay-children-s-TV-characters-not-bounds.html
There's something a bit Rule 34 about that.
http://southpark.wikia.com/wiki/Cartman_Joins_NAMBLA (http://southpark.wikia.com/wiki/Cartman_Joins_NAMBLA)
In fact, the over-thinkers are as much a part of pop culture as the videos. There's a whole industry of punditry devoted to "analysing" popcult that's so dependent on it it's virtually fused with it. And that's good for popcult because, basically, they are an arm of the advertising division. While the university courses and media pundits and bloggers were once basically preying on the latest video or book or movie or advertisement, they are now definitely kept in mind by at least the savvier popcult "creatives". How aware the pundits are of this is another matter.
EDIT - have to admit I wasn't aware of people writing to Ray Bradbury wanting him to re-write "The Martian Chronicles". Have to file that one away for future use.
Apologies seem to be big in the US at the moment. Ariana Grande had to apologise for licking doughnuts and saying "I hate America". Apparently the police are involved in investigating the licking part.
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jul/09/confederate-flag-south-carolina-approves-removal-of-contentious-symbol
What I found interesting was how defensive a lot of people were of their "selfies" in the comments section. Some people even tried to use Van Gough self portraits to make a point.
It's odd how people actually feel the need to justify their narcissism with clap-trap like "empowerment". There's plenty of feel-good, post self-help psuedo psychological mumbo where people feel they can actually declare they are "beautiful" no matter how much physical evidence there is to the contrary, but some feel the need to add "empowerment" to the mantra. Feminism is becoming a victim of it's own success.
Just about every woman I know well, from family to friends, call themselves feminist. It's the done thing. They take the idea that they don't want to be treated like shit and make it how they want to make it. Perfectly acceptable.
It's when you get those who make a career out of being feminists. Which, when you think about it for more than one second, is astonishing. We live in a world where you can make a living out of having opinions. They are, I think, a new breed of intellectuals who want to impose their power over everything in the name of the common good. In other words, business as fucking usual.
My contempt is for any type of aspirational ruling class who want to use words and concepts as their tools. My success rate is zero, but at least, here, I can have a good sneer at them. Wankers.
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this was funny
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/jul/15/donald-trump-butt-plug-3d-printing
Overall, a much more satisfactory performance than the Putin buttplug with its rather vanilla contours. It's all in the hair.
This bloke is ace...
"Black National Socialist Cab Driver Defends Wearing Swastika armband":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LR30ME4RMrg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LR30ME4RMrg)
That was superb.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jul/17/prince-philip-who-you-sponge-off
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Curious moment when story of power electronics unit visiting Finland is headlining as among top stories in mainstream media, hah!
http://nyt.fi/a1305972144055
story also reached all the way the higher media:
National broadcast YLE:
http://yle.fi/uutiset/helsinkilainen_hevibaari_perui_natsikeikan_somekritiikin_vuoksi/8175235
TV channel MTV3:
http://m.mtv.fi/uutiset/kotimaa/artikkeli/somekohu-sai-hevibaarin-perumaan-natsikeikan-helsingissa-kivahtaa-sensuurista/5235670
+ Metal music
http://www.inferno.fi/uutiset/somekohu-puri-helsinkilaisen-metallibaarin-natsikeikka-peruttu/
So if this is Deathkey one and only gig as advertized, it gets attention it deserves, hah...
mtv!
As an outsider it's always appeared that Finland was the one place where NSBM/RAC/PE gigs seem to go off without a hitch or any interventions from the Antifags but this was actually cancelled due to the pressure? Kramers presence must indeed be intimidating.
Only because it was high profile venue in middle of Helsinki, which stands out quite well.
If it was gig elsewhere, I don't think anyone would have noticed. Gig happens now elsewhere in Helsinki.
Briefing in English.
QuoteOver the week we have worked against a nsbm/noise/rac -concert in Helsinki. We have managed to cancel at least two nsbm/rac/industrial-gigs, and brought a nazi sympathizing heavymetal bar in trouble with people who hate nazis. For example the grindcore band Rotten Sound canceled their gig at PRKL Club because the bar had recently been involved in organizing multiple gigs with nazi bands. When fronted the bar didn't condemn the nazi bands political views, but tried to blame antifascists for making a fuss about it.
We also managed to reveal the connections between a finnish nsbm/noise/industrial front figure Mikko Aspa and hitlerists from Finnish Resistance Movement (FMR). Aspa has been runing record labels Northern Heritage (black metal) and Freak Animal (noise/powerelectronics/industrial) and he owns a record store (Sarvilevyt) in Lahti where he has sold FMR material. Aspa has also been running a RAC soloproject, where he sings about racial war and white pride. Now there is no question that the finnish nsbm-scene has connections with "real" political fascist groups, and they can not just claim to be a theater show for laughs.
Although facts remain nothing was
really cancelled and perhaps Vapaudenristi content reduced to merely those two topics shows people hardly listened the lyrics. As publicity stunt it was beyond anything seen for long long time.
File under:
General butthurt.
^ I had been away from Finland for a week, and only came back two days before the show. So, if it wasn't for the antifa and their fabricated outrage, I would have missed it. Thanks! :D
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/11764484/Satanic-statue-unveiled-in-Detroit.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/11764484/Satanic-statue-unveiled-in-Detroit.html)
"Christians protest after the Satanic Temple unveils bronze Baphomet statue featuring a human body, goat's head and wings."
Fucking brilliant, ' Holocaust survivors' grandchildren call for action over inherited trauma ' :
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/aug/03/holocaust-survivors-grandchildren-inherited-trauma (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/aug/03/holocaust-survivors-grandchildren-inherited-trauma)
Could I not say that i've got 'inherited trauma' about these cunts going on and fucking on about it?
There has been nice scientific proof of inherited trauma. Of course yet to fully to be proven on humans but proven on animals. But as testing humans is unethical as it would require isolation from parents and culture in general, so one could see its not merely social but beyond that
Not that I'm denying the existence of inherited trauma, but reading that article, it sounds like it's not so much inherited trauma in the genetic sense so much as their blood relatives inundating them with Holocaust documentaries, stories, and literature at ages when most kids are watching cartoons or playing outside or playing videogames. I'm sure 7-year-olds love photos of piles of skeletal-looking corpses. Wow.
yes, of course it is stupid. But it's curious that science can also proof inherited trauma, what isn't really genetic, but neither socially constructed.
In quite recent case in Finland when "illegal personnel register" was found at certain activists USB stick, there was hundreds of people who didn't really give a fuck, and didn't bother to file charges nor demand money. But all the jews wanted to be paid in full for "damages". And not only that, but also family and relatives who were not on the list filed applications to get some money. Very nice, indeed.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on August 07, 2015, 09:25:27 PM
Quote from: Peterson on August 06, 2015, 09:47:39 PM
This guy's a little over the top, but brilliant nonetheless.
http://stuffblackpeopledontlike.blogspot.com/?m=1
That site isn't what I thought it would be. I thought it would have lists of things black people do not like such as swimming, cold weather, work, getting shot... :-)
My inner black is offended by your comment, mister.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/aug/10/jokes-finally-funny-because-culture-at-the-butt-of-them
One of main PC organizations pisses feminists off for pr-sex worker stances
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2015/08/global-movement-votes-to-adopt-policy-to-protect-human-rights-of-sex-workers/
Been some interesting debate on this issue in our favourite news site and others I like to read. I've got to state it's pleasing that most people are opposed to the smug, middle-class, parochial attitudes of the radfems on this one.
http://www.newstatesman.com/culture/2015/08/i-read-100-best-fantasy-and-sci-fi-novels-and-they-were-shockingly-offensive (http://www.newstatesman.com/culture/2015/08/i-read-100-best-fantasy-and-sci-fi-novels-and-they-were-shockingly-offensive)
QuoteWe ... deserve to see ourselves reflected in the characters....
Sorry, but this Lauren Southern looks every bit as much a self-righteous dick as the people she's hassling. Libertarians are invariably another breed of whinger.
EDIT - Did a bit of looking around - she was kicked out of the Canadian Libbo party after the sluts complained about her, then was re-instated after the libbos complained about her being kicked out. She seems more a savvy politician than anything else.
QuoteHypocrisy has historically always been a central strand of liberal views on free speech. And it remains so today.
https://kenanmalik.wordpress.com/2015/08/13/free-speech-in-an-age-of-identity-politics/ (https://kenanmalik.wordpress.com/2015/08/13/free-speech-in-an-age-of-identity-politics/)
I'll stick with the girls of PETA. If you're going to be sexy on a soap box, do it properly I say.
(http://static2.demotix.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/a_scale_large/1100-6/photos/1335183804-peta-protest-against-animal-tested-products-staged-in-westminster_1171376.jpg)
All white and skinny and no black and fat makes PC crybabies dull boys & girls
http://www.today.com/news/university-alabama-alpha-phi-sorority-criticized-recruitment-video-t39016
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/aug/18/russia-activists-attack-moscow-art-religion
Christian dumbness
http://video.huffingtonpost.it/cronaca/la-donna-si-spogliaper-un-ottima-ragione/4820/4812
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/aug/28/pope-francis-sends-letter-praising-gay-childrens-book
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/virginia-tv-shooting-alison-parkers-6337751?ICID=FB_mirror_main
^Political correctness gone homicidal.
Recall some of the defenses some on the ultra-right-on left made after the Charlie Hebdo massacre? It'll be interesting to see how they spin this. "The shooting was a tragedy, but..."
Tom Lehrer declared that irony died when Henry Kissinger was awarded the Nobel Peace prize. Behold irony's corpse.
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(http://40.media.tumblr.com/5af404a7fbe61088a7059374f5741f54/tumblr_nba6qlt2Er1shrov7o1_1280.jpg)
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He should've just shot those bigoted watermelons instead...
I find this difficult to masturbate to...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3217067/Model-rare-genetic-disorder-left-bald-without-teeth-reveals-embracing-unique-appearance-helped-boost-fashion-career.html
A feast of fuckwittery.
http://bestofcuntryliving.tumblr.com/ (http://bestofcuntryliving.tumblr.com/)
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on September 04, 2015, 05:40:27 AM
A feast of fuckwittery.
http://bestofcuntryliving.tumblr.com/ (http://bestofcuntryliving.tumblr.com/)
This was good for a laugh, thank you. I'm tickled that "questioning" has been appended to that ever-expanding acronym. Finally someone's championing a hashtag Twitter campaign for people who are confused sexually. They don't know what they are, but they're sick of cis heteronormative sexual totalitarianism!
On my way to work yesterday I was reminded that a thing called SlutWalk exists. SlutWalk (that's how they spell it, with no gap between the words for some reason) is when sluts dress like sluts to slut about the streets sluttily chanting that sluts dressed as sluts have the right to be sluts. They had gathered, as demos in Melbourne often do, outside the city library to march to Federation Square. As it happens my tram managed to get away just as one of the organisers was telling the crowd (they had a pretty decent pa) how proud she was of all the sluts and how inclusive they all are and so on ("Let's thank the Christian group that came out to support us today, give 'em a hand!"), so I got to work on time before they started walking and holding up the traffic. Not sure how I could have explained it to work if I was late - "The tram was held up by a mob of sluts." I reflected it's rather a pity they don't march down to where I work to tell all the old ladies I look after, and my mostly female co-workers and coordinators, how they have the right to be sluts.
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Inclusive - as long as you're young, hip and narcissistic.
Mind you, it doesn't pay to be too inclusive.
http://junkee.com/why-men-should-keep-out-slutwalk/18594 (http://junkee.com/why-men-should-keep-out-slutwalk/18594)
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on September 06, 2015, 04:24:28 AMSlutWalk (that's how they spell it, with no gap between the words for some reason) is when sluts dress like sluts to slut about the streets sluttily chanting that sluts dressed as sluts have the right to be sluts.
You're winning
Aw thanks. But for now -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMucmRlPZK0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMucmRlPZK0)
http://thoughtcatalog.com/katie-mather/2015/07/15-women-describe-their-most-memorable-slut-shaming-experience/ (http://thoughtcatalog.com/katie-mather/2015/07/15-women-describe-their-most-memorable-slut-shaming-experience/)
Note that the article is headed "15 Women Describe Their Most Traumatic Slut-Shaming Experience (So Far)".
Traumatic...QuoteHe called me a slut in the limo ride home in front of all our friends.
Christine, 21.
QuoteI was at a house party and was pretty tipsy, but not drunk. I was dancing in sort of a silly way, trying to make some of my guy friends laugh, when I caught the end of this conversation these two girls in the corner were having. About me. Apparently I was acting like a slut by dancing around in front of my friends. I was incredibly embarrassed and it totally ruined my night. I seriously think about it every time I dance now.
Laura, 20.
QuoteI was at a Halloween party when I realized that I had several missed calls and texts from this guy I had casually slept with a couple of days ago. Only an hour had passed since he sent the first message, but the texts he had sent since then were getting angrier and angrier. When I called him back the next day, he called me a slut and hung up on me.
Mary, 22.
QuoteOne of my best friends called me a slut when I told her about my first one night stand.
Tessa, 22.
"In physical medicine, trauma (injury) is damage to a biological organism caused by physical harm from an external source. In psychology, psychological trauma is a type of damage to the psyche that occurs as a result of a severely distressing event. In sociology, sociological trauma is a type of damage to the social life of an individual as a result of stigma."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trauma (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trauma)
Damn, life's tough for these girls.
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QuoteI was at a Halloween party when I realized that I had several missed calls and texts from this guy I had casually slept with a couple of days ago. Only an hour had passed since he sent the first message, but the texts he had sent since then were getting angrier and angrier. When I called him back the next day, he called me a slut and hung up on me.
Wonder if that was my old housemate, Mick. Lady dropped him after a single date at which I believe he had made zero progress. Spent the evening buying drinks for the sad bastard as he struggled to compose a poem a expressing his true feelings for her, small pile of crumpled drafts gathering at his feet. Don't think he ever made it past the first line, "You fucking slut..."
"Sound Art" - it's not enough that it's pretentious, academic and boring as batshit, now it's got to be Right-On.
http://www.liquidarchitecture.org.au/program/feminist-methodology/ (http://www.liquidarchitecture.org.au/program/feminist-methodology/)
priests interrupting "Don Iphone" comedy show
http://temi.repubblica.it/micromega-online/%E2%80%9Cblasfemia%E2%80%9D-albano-laziale-preti-sul-palco-contro-la-satira-di-%E2%80%9Cdon-iphone%E2%80%9D/
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/sep/17/counter-extremism-bill-could-play-into-terrorist-hands-watchdog
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/call-dave-lord-ashcroft-cameron-013913724.html#AtQTwKr
Cameron alleged romp with a pig.
QuoteSo he and James would come round to my room and the three of us would listen to Supertramp albums...
Wonder what kind of shit you have to smoke to make them sound good.
Protestors want Anthony Bourdain to stop wallowing in suffering
http://www.avclub.com/article/protestors-want-anthony-bourdain-stop-wallowing-su-225884 (http://www.avclub.com/article/protestors-want-anthony-bourdain-stop-wallowing-su-225884)
let's organize a benefit for the museum
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/sep/28/cereal-killer-cafe-protestors-plan-target-jack-the-ripper-museum
http://www.timeout.com/london/blog/protest-against-the-new-jack-the-ripper-museum-in-whitechapel-080415
So, is the museum new? I would have thought it had been around for awhile. There a walking tour of the murder sites, right?
yes indeed.
what next? closing inquisition museums, concentration camps, old jails?
There are a lot of Jack the Ripper walking tours, pretty sure London Dungeon has a Jack the Ripper section. I'm so tired of all of these wanky campaigns to shut things down/ban things that really aren't that bad. Ban all bad things! I don't agree that this museum is anti-women, people are fascinated by famous crimes. Always have been.
I do like the name Cereal Killer though. The only time I would ever pay £3 for a bowl of cereal is if they had peanut butter Capn' Crunch. I haven't had that since I was a kid, I'm sure it probably tastes disgusting now.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/29/uea-student-union-bans-racist-sombreros
There are certain pundits writing for The Graunaid that I just wont read, like Jessica Valenti, who totally disgraced herself when she stood up for "Jackie", the individual who was interviewed in Rolling Stone about her "rape", only to completely stuff up the details of this apparent event. She totally places ideology over reality. But some of the others are just predictable.
In the meantime, Cracked seems to continue its downward spiral into wanting to be the next Vice or something.
http://www.cracked.com/article_22894_5-secret-racist-messages-buried-in-your-favorite-pop-culture.html (http://www.cracked.com/article_22894_5-secret-racist-messages-buried-in-your-favorite-pop-culture.html)
QuoteDepending on who you talk to, the world is either full of casual racism that pervades every aspect of our lives, or the world is full of a bunch of oversensitive PC types getting worked up about nothing. Well, here's what we can say for sure: If you go looking for hilariously terrible messages about race in pop culture, it is not hard to find them -- whether they're intentional or not. Tell us if we're wrong ...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3224056/Online-petition-calling-Amazon-ban-repugnant-books-pick-artist-Roosh-V-signed-200-000-people.html
http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/oct/01/melbourne-mural-depicting-sex-and-a-giant-hamburger-will-be-edited (http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/oct/01/melbourne-mural-depicting-sex-and-a-giant-hamburger-will-be-edited)
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/6670819/Doll-race-price-row-Black-dolls-cost-less.html?CMP=spklr-_-S9SunSocial-_-FBPAGE-_-TheSun-thesun-_-20151002-_-News-_-247986050-_-Imageandlink
Italian southerners wants to close one of the best crime museums in the world on Cesare Lombroso saying it criminalized people from the south...
no comment
http://www.nolombroso.org/it/
The latest pc craze - "misogynoir". "The term was coined in 2010 by gay black feminist American academic Moya Bailey, who defined it "to describe the particular brand of hatred directed at black women in American visual and popular culture"."
http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2015/oct/05/what-is-misogynoir (http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2015/oct/05/what-is-misogynoir)
Bonus outrage -
http://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/oct/05/meryl-streep-backlash-suffragette-t-shirt-slogan (http://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/oct/05/meryl-streep-backlash-suffragette-t-shirt-slogan)
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/oct/08/playmobil-racist-toy-pirate-slave?CMP=fb_gu
http://www.femmecult.com/news/fascism-in-ambient-music/
Quote from: tiny_tove on October 09, 2015, 11:48:42 AM
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/oct/08/playmobil-racist-toy-pirate-slave?CMP=fb_gu
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Quote from: tiny_tove on October 23, 2015, 04:54:23 PM
http://www.femmecult.com/news/fascism-in-ambient-music/
This was excellent. It reminded me about suspicion that perhaps some people don't have much idea what is "fascism"? Most amusingly after quoting the Bennett's lengthy defense, where he lists pro's and anti's, she goes "Bennett fails to declare that he is not a fascist". Well, I assume that mr. Bennett certainly thought that he wouldn't need to, as he just described long list of opinions what should make it more than clear. Perhaps people like author, just don't really
get it, unless he'd explain that like to little girl. "See, there ideas are pretty much the opposite of fascism, so therefore logical conclusion would be... ?". Perhaps we can see utter void in girls eyes staring this difficult riddle.
However, my absolute favorite is:
Quote(...)hyperbolic commentary on rather contemporary, too-soon circumstances, but also and conversely platitudes that are nonetheless patriarchal, ethnocentric, and displaced medievalist
To sound like some
meat-head from
Special Interest forum, I'd conclude there is way way too little fascism in ambient. Few displaced mediavalists barely make it enough.
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on October 23, 2015, 07:31:20 PM
This was excellent. It reminded me about suspicion that perhaps some people don't have much idea what is "fascism"? Most amusingly after quoting the Bennett's lengthy defense, where he lists pro's and anti's, she goes "Bennett fails to declare that he is not a fascist". Well, I assume that mr. Bennett certainly thought that he wouldn't need to, as he just described long list of opinions what should make it more than clear. Perhaps people like author, just don't really get it, unless he'd explain that like to little girl. "See, there ideas are pretty much the opposite of fascism, so therefore logical conclusion would be... ?". Perhaps we can see utter void in girls eyes staring this difficult riddle.
I could not comment due to technical problems but that was exatcly the first point I wanted to underline.
These people (liberal-fem-intellectual-antithis/antithat-ecc..) has the Gramscian convinction that whatever do not fit their interest is fascism. It is something we said hundreds of time.
But what is fascism? Fascism (and neofascism) is a well defined political doctrine that is done of many ideas, tendencies, beliefs, attitudes, ecc, but that stands for a certain idea of state, morals, etc. I repeat, with many shades.
But the black leather boots, the apparent glorification of violence itself and many other gimmicks that are part of underground culture do not necessary fit into that.
These people consider fascism whatever either hurt their sensitiveness, or secretly turn them on - but will not admit it.
Living their lives considering themselves as natural born victims of some injustice.
As you pointed out, William didn't need to claim he was not fascist because he is not... and the list of his beliefs evidently is saying "look, I am not the monster you think I am".
Anyway, I know my English is far to be perfect, but it took me three times to understand it. I may be stupid - very possible - but if you write in a way only your circle of artsy-fartsy academic friends can get the point, it becomes wasted space.
"Speak like you eat" we say here in Italy.
If I had hair, I'd get a "Hitler haircut" & make fascist ambient music.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on October 23, 2015, 10:17:36 PM
If I had hair, I'd get a "Hitler haircut" & make fascist ambient music.
Hah yeah, me too! But it would take me some years...and still then, I'd look more like Baldy Man.
"Weird, sad, and pathetic that Kim Kelly is promoting a band like Clandestine Blaze on her timeline today."
https://twitter.com/chipsandbeermag/status/656164930870210560
https://twitter.com/chipsandbeermag/status/656165000386621444
Quote from: Eloy on October 24, 2015, 12:16:01 AM
"Weird, sad, and pathetic that Kim Kelly is promoting a band like Clandestine Blaze on her timeline today."
https://twitter.com/chipsandbeermag/status/656164930870210560
https://twitter.com/chipsandbeermag/status/656165000386621444
People need to simply ignore this lame, disgusting wench.
Quote from: tiny_tove on October 23, 2015, 09:04:35 PM
"Speak like you eat" we say here in Italy.
I'm going to use that from now on.
Scroll to the bottom of the page. The holocaust gravy train is still rolling!
www.summiticeapparel.com (http://www.summiticeapparel.com)
"Summit Ice® is a not-for-profit company dedicated to producing quality outdoor apparel and raising awareness of the Holocaust. "
if they want to contrast thor stainer, they need to do their homeworks and get better designers.
Quote"Six million Jews died". Cameron, model.
Cameron, model, your true talents are wasted. A glittering career in academia or media punditry could be yours.
Quote from: Major Carew on October 26, 2015, 12:18:25 PM
Scroll to the bottom of the page. The holocaust gravy train is still rolling!
www.summiticeapparel.com (http://www.summiticeapparel.com)
"Summit Ice® is a not-for-profit company dedicated to producing quality outdoor apparel and raising awareness of the Holocaust."
This a prank by Nathan Fielder.
uh! can you tell me more about this guy`?
is he the guy of the starbucks prank?
Yeah, Dumb Starbucks. They're all episodes for his show, Nathan For You, where he tries to help struggling businesses with absurdist tactics. You can watch the Holocaust clothing episode here: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3aqer6
Quote from: Sadomaniac on October 30, 2015, 09:36:57 AM
Quote from: Major Carew on October 26, 2015, 12:18:25 PM
Scroll to the bottom of the page. The holocaust gravy train is still rolling!
www.summiticeapparel.com (http://www.summiticeapparel.com)
"Summit Ice® is a not-for-profit company dedicated to producing quality outdoor apparel and raising awareness of the Holocaust."
This a prank by Nathan Fielder.
Hah! I thought it was too good to be real.....
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/oct/29/binary-gender-feminism-transgender-womens-award?CMP=fb_gu
Helpful tips for Halloween you need to follow:
http://s1.r29static.com/bin/entry/def/x/1488433/image.png
Quote from: Si Clark on October 31, 2015, 03:26:15 AM
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on October 30, 2015, 11:12:18 PM
Helpful tips for Halloween you need to follow:
http://s1.r29static.com/bin/entry/def/x/1488433/image.png
Everyone involved in this bullshit wanky table should kill themselves, it would end their constant offensive they feel everyday. Everyone would be happy.
is this real?
At first glance I assumed those Halloween tips must be a joke too but judging from the logo at the bottom they originate from Refinery29, a "modern woman's destination for how to live a stylish, well-rounded life".
Quote from: ConcreteMascara on October 31, 2015, 07:39:14 AM
Quote from: Si Clark on October 31, 2015, 03:26:15 AM
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on October 30, 2015, 11:12:18 PM
Helpful tips for Halloween you need to follow:
http://s1.r29static.com/bin/entry/def/x/1488433/image.png
Everyone involved in this bullshit wanky table should kill themselves, it would end their constant offensive they feel everyday. Everyone would be happy.
is this real?
Why not? http://youtu.be/7sLKCSBWijM
Everything is sexist, everything racist, everything is homophobic etc...
Fucking MTV are jumping on the right-on band wagon now?
QuoteI think Colorado College should cancel the screening because the safety and well-being of queer and trans* students surpasses the importance of a critical discussion.
"Safety" - that's the new battle cry.
http://youtu.be/sXQkXXBqj_U
Yea, that's the one.
Some may have noticed the hoo-ha about Germain Greer being banned from some uni or other because she thinks a bloke in a dress is a bloke in a dress. It's interesting to see radfems and others reaping what they've sown. Generation Gutless.
http://www.theguardian.com/stage/2015/nov/03/margaret-cho-comedian-rape-song-psycho-tour-interview
"Plus", I've noticed, is a recent new right-on thing. I think I've mentioned "Atheism +" here before - the notion that atheism, on it's own, is no good, you have to also be in favour of various political notions as well.
Contrawise, I've heard of "Antinatalism +", or "Efilism" as it's sometimes called. It's not enough to not have children, it's better to commit suicide.
So, if your radicalism just isn't radical enough, ad a "+" to it. Like putting a donk on it.
Diss the Downs and down you go!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3303457/Star-BBC-reality-TV-Call-Centre-faces-jail-posting-sick-Facebook-message-born-s-Syndrome-down.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YTe5YNHBQA&feature=youtu.be
Haha, their faces were screaming "TRIGGERED"
so, we are demented
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/nov/10/darker-sense-of-humour-could-be-sign-of-dementia-says-study
QuoteThe University College London research, published in the Journal of Alzeheimer's disease, questioned the families and friends of 48 dementia patients, who had known them for more than 15 years before their disease took hold, many whom noted that their relatives' sense of humour had changed.
But this is what dementia does. It changes the personality. As far as I've seen it breaks down the usual social inhibitors that we all build up to function in this fucking world and thus brings out what we really are. You piss anywhere you feel like, you say whatever obscenity you want, you act out your basic instincts. Laughing at other peoples' accidents is the tip of the iceberg. When we get some form of dementia, everything changes.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on November 10, 2015, 09:18:28 PM
Man, fucking students are NUTS:
https://reason.com/blog/2015/11/09/yale-missouri-students-speech-college
Be sure to watch the 'Concernedstudent1950' video & check this link of another lunatic student: https://reason.com/blog/2015/11/06/watch-students-tell-yale-to-fire-a-staff
I sense a creeping brain aneurysm from reading this. There were many babies like this when I was in school, but this kinda widespread "organized" mentality was thankfully nowhere to be found. I feel sorry for the rare student with ambitions in 2015.
http://www.theguardian.com/books/2015/nov/18/transgender-activists-protest-germaine-greer-lecture-cardiff-university (http://www.theguardian.com/books/2015/nov/18/transgender-activists-protest-germaine-greer-lecture-cardiff-university)
It's easier to get butthurt than understand the real issue
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3324825/Former-presidential-candidate-sparks-outrage-posting-unedited-picture-bloodied-corpses-Paris-Facebook.html
To think, all those years I was yoga stretching I was being a genocidal colonialist. I feel so dirty.
More student hi-jinks.
http://news.yahoo.com/princeton-students-protest-presidents-office-change-194850789.html (http://news.yahoo.com/princeton-students-protest-presidents-office-change-194850789.html)
Quote"Having to walk by buildings that (have Wilson's name), having to walk by his mural, having to live in residential colleges that didn't want our presence on campus, that's marginalizing," said Asanni York, a black junior who is majoring in public policy. "People are hurt by that. All this matters because, at the end of the day, black people's feelings matter just as much as any other people's feelings matter."
The protesters also want the Ivy League university to institute cultural competency training for staff and faculty, and add a cultural space on campus dedicated to black students.
so Italy should stop using tomato sauce to not offend Mesoamericans?
How do you think I feel? I'm Australian,we haven't invented fucking anything.
(Well, apart from digital sampling (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairlight_CMI), I suppose. Something Afrika Bambaataa used, as well as samples of Kraftwerk and Yellow Magic Orchestra, to create "Planet Rock", a track said to have been one of the main inspirations of hip-hop.)
http://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/nov/23/zoolander-2-accused-of-transphobia-over-benedict-cumberbatch-character
QuoteReally wanted to like the Zoolander 2 trailer...
Do these twats even watch whole movies now? Next on The Guardian, "What Does The New Star Wars Movie Trailer Tell Us About Ourselves?".
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/nov/25/nazi-inspired-ads-for-the-man-in-the-high-castle-pulled-from-new-york-subway
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on November 23, 2015, 11:25:40 AM
More student hi-jinks.
http://news.yahoo.com/princeton-students-protest-presidents-office-change-194850789.html (http://news.yahoo.com/princeton-students-protest-presidents-office-change-194850789.html)
Quote"Having to walk by buildings that (have Wilson's name), having to walk by his mural, having to live in residential colleges that didn't want our presence on campus, that's marginalizing," said Asanni York, a black junior who is majoring in public policy. "People are hurt by that. All this matters because, at the end of the day, black people's feelings matter just as much as any other people's feelings matter."
The protesters also want the Ivy League university to institute cultural competency training for staff and faculty, and add a cultural space on campus dedicated to black students.
https://youtu.be/jC2yB2Zusyg
Funny how these protesters wanted to change the name of Woodrow Wilson School of Public and International Affairs because of the former US president's stance on segregation but yet demanded "black space" for black people so they can segregate themselves from whites.
lefty pc bans Christmas at school and Catholic pcs get pissed off http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/30/christmas-is-cancelled-italians-outraged-over-school-decision-to-ban-festivities
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOg7aPNLLG0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOg7aPNLLG0)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bj-gallagher/do-words-kill-is-politica_b_8673510.html
"Every time we yell at someone who cuts us off in traffic, we are being verbally violent. Each time we call someone an "idiot" or "moron," we are guilty of wrong speech. If in exasperation we blurt out, "If you do that I'll kill you!" to our spouses, our words are an attack. When we lose our tempers and drop the F-bomb on someone who angers us, that F-bomb really is a bomb. It does damage. Idle threats are not idle - they are seeds we plant in our psychic and cultural soil - seeds that take root and later blossom into violent acts. We reap as we sow."
"The f bomb really is a bomb".
There's our solution to the IS problem, then. Just yell "fuck" at them until they blow up.
http://www.dailylife.com.au/news-and-views/dl-opinion/clementine-ford-why-i-reported-hotel-supervisor-michael-nolans-abusive-comment-to-his-employer-20151201-glcf96.html (http://www.dailylife.com.au/news-and-views/dl-opinion/clementine-ford-why-i-reported-hotel-supervisor-michael-nolans-abusive-comment-to-his-employer-20151201-glcf96.html)
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/dec/02/dead-or-alive-xtreme-3-otaku-culture-sensitivity-censorship
http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-34967254
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Wheelchair black metal ist krieg!
(http://images.thegauntlet.com/pics/rideforrevenge_photo.jpg)
http://www.vice.com/en_au/read/auckland-residents-arent-laughing-over-a-companys-transphobic-caitlyn-jenner-billboard (http://www.vice.com/en_au/read/auckland-residents-arent-laughing-over-a-companys-transphobic-caitlyn-jenner-billboard)
(https://vice-images.vice.com/images/content-images/2015/12/03/auckland-residents-arent-laughing-over-a-companys-transphobic-caitlyn-jenner-billboard-body-image-1449114444.jpg?resize=*:*&output-quality=)
I got a laugh out of that.
http://www.theguardian.com/books/2015/dec/04/every-16-year-old-in-sweden-to-receive-copy-of-we-should-all-be-feminists (http://www.theguardian.com/books/2015/dec/04/every-16-year-old-in-sweden-to-receive-copy-of-we-should-all-be-feminists)
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-12-05/tyson-fury-blasted-for-women-belong-in-kitchen-slur/7004096 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-12-05/tyson-fury-blasted-for-women-belong-in-kitchen-slur/7004096)
(http://41.media.tumblr.com/2f7754f855671f80aeb85d084e5a3cfb/tumblr_nxpzruul5N1sq9zpoo1_500.jpg)
Further proof that the Right are just as moronic as the Left -
http://www.vice.com/en_au/read/gun-rights-advocates-planning-fake-mass-shooting-at-the-university-of-texas-vgtrn-129 (http://www.vice.com/en_au/read/gun-rights-advocates-planning-fake-mass-shooting-at-the-university-of-texas-vgtrn-129)
http://www.conservativeoutfitters.com/blogs/news/79845825-this-is-the-most-hateful-group-in-america-video
Some great sampling material there.
yes, so intense
http://foreignpolicy.com/2015/12/09/trump-may-be-a-loudmouthed-demagogue-but-is-he-a-fascist/?utm_content=bufferca28b&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer
royal canine retardness
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/dec/15/thai-man-faces-jail-insulting-kings-dog-sarcastic-internet-post
This thread: http://www.discogs.com/forum/thread/700939
German charged over 'tattoo of Nazi death camp'
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35113203
"The punishment for Mr Zech if he is convicted could be as much as five years in prison."
What a fucked up system
That had to happen some day. Colleges and universities will one day all be "safe spaces" for anyone with a chip on their shoulder and a bad fuck in their past.
Vice (The Guardian for hipsters) is pleased to see that Death Metal is getting more right-on.
http://noisey.vice.com/blog/state-of-death-metal-in-2015 (http://noisey.vice.com/blog/state-of-death-metal-in-2015)
QuoteOnce the go-to genre for tasteless gore and shock value, most younger bands seem to have cleaned up their image. The violent misogyny that frequently appeared in the genre's golden age is now passé if you're not a generic slam band. There just isn't any room for "Entrails Ripped From a Virgin's Cunt" or "Skin Her Alive" in today's metal scene, and more importantly fans have responded angrily when actual violence against women occurs, as blackened death band Deiphago learned when guitarist Sidalpa was accused of punching a woman in the face backstage.
QuoteDeath metal listeners are also clearly taking a stand against racism. Over the summer, Malevolent Creation were raked over the coals because of blatantly racist and xenophobic Facebook posts. In the fall, Disma were booted from multiple festivals due to frontman Craig Pillard's alleged Nazi associations. Netherlands Deathfest organizers said that "at least 10 bands" would have refused to play on the same bill as Disma had they not been removed.
QuoteWhile fans long ago realized that death metal is no novelty, the rest of the music world is finally taking notice, and under this newfound scrutiny, death metal will undoubtedly keep moving forward.
(Emphasis mine).
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on December 20, 2015, 03:50:32 AM
http://www.scribd.com/doc/293326897/Oberlin-College-Black-Student-Union-Institutional-Demands
"These are demands and not suggestions. If these demands are not taken seriously, immediate action from the Africana community will follow."
I wonder if they mean that they will move back to Africana?
Nah, I think they'll just have Black Student Demands Matter protests and they gonna loot the school of all their valuables... That'll teach em!
QuoteWe DEMAND that all Black prospective students be interviewed by admissions officers that are trained in race consciousness practices for undergraduate admissions.
Presumably any black prospective student not inclined to get with the programme will not be admitted. Some unity.
http://www.vice.com/en_au/read/the-year-in-male-tears (http://www.vice.com/en_au/read/the-year-in-male-tears)
QuoteMisandry, 2015's rich, bitchy, delicious evidence suggests, is not a fad. It's in your music and on your television; it's at the movies and in your Twitter stream. It's shaping culture and it's influencing women. If your #MasculinitySoFragile that you've got a problem with that, let me refer you to Hillary Clinton's near-audible eye-rolling at the Benghazi hearing, to Ex Machina's sweetly homicidal Ava, or to New York City's 2015 manspreading misdemeanor. Misandry's here to stay, boys. Get used to it.
Merry white Christmas for y'all!
http://www.thelocal.se/20151221/is-this-ad-for-diverse-stockholm-mall-just-too-white
well, considering that most of todays's vegans here are white upper class kids I can imagine the the sense of exclusion of lower economical-class minorities.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on December 27, 2015, 04:23:27 AM
http://mediadiversified.org/2015/12/16/veganism-has-a-serious-race-problem/
I didn't read the article but I'm guessing it's about how blacks are not vegan because they love BBQ and fried chicken.
Well they love watermelon and "grape drink" as well so all hope is not lost.
Quote from: Scat-O-Logy on December 23, 2015, 06:20:40 PM
Merry white Christmas for y'all!
http://www.thelocal.se/20151221/is-this-ad-for-diverse-stockholm-mall-just-too-white
No words. Really. No words.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on December 20, 2015, 03:50:32 AM
http://www.scribd.com/doc/293326897/Oberlin-College-Black-Student-Union-Institutional-Demands
"These are demands and not suggestions. If these demands are not taken seriously, immediate action from the Africana community will follow."
I wonder if they mean that they will move back to Africana?
"4. Exclusive Black safe spaces on campus"
hahaha yes perfect solution, give them their own separate (but equal) safe spaces ;)
Sometimes pc whinging doesn't always work.
http://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/jan/04/advertising-watchdog-dismisses-racist-complaint-about-7-eleven-slurpee-ad (http://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/jan/04/advertising-watchdog-dismisses-racist-complaint-about-7-eleven-slurpee-ad)
Although I wouldn't be surprised if there was a follow up.
Black Male Entertainer Lives Matter!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3381909/Cosby-rape-allegations-conspiracy-bring-successful-black-men-says-U-S-comedian.html
White people dating white people? Nope, that's racist!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3386444/Founder-WhiteWhitePeopleMeet-com-website-says-s-not-racist-dated-black-woman.html
I must say Russell's defense comes across as rather pathetic...
Is Finland having some issues?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3343066/Fights-fury-Ku-Klux-Klan-Finland-faces-wave-vigilante-mobs-targeting-migrants-arrest-Afghan-asylum-seeker-rape-14-year-old-schoolgirl-pushes-one-town-brink.html
Officially we have no problem and all refugees are integrating just fine. They are the hope of Finland.
But really, this is just tip of the iceberg. During new years 1000 irakis gather in Helsinki railway station with the idea of causing trouble. Rape, robberies... Like in Cologne.
http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/jan/11/operation-boomerang-lamb-ad-insults-indigenous-people-say-critics (http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/jan/11/operation-boomerang-lamb-ad-insults-indigenous-people-say-critics)
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/features/6853496/Amazon-slammed-for-sick-t-shirts-mocking-suicide.html?CMP=spklr-_-Editorial-_-FBPAGE-_-TheSun-thesun-_-20160111-_-News-_-327700520-_-Imageandlink
I want one!
http://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/jan/14/charlie-hebdo-cartoon-depicting-drowned-child-alan-kurdi-sparks-racism-debate (http://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/jan/14/charlie-hebdo-cartoon-depicting-drowned-child-alan-kurdi-sparks-racism-debate)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xat1/v/t1.0-9/12540809_1669891446613846_4880083842532476933_n.png?oh=95043785058266520ced1c51fcb6a04b&oe=573BB0FD&__gda__=1460041205_fe3e065516cec7c7ec3282110d622b56)
(http://i67.tinypic.com/k4ia0y.jpg)
Anyway, I can't see so much difference with the above image
Feminist brainfart of the day award goes to...
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http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2016/jan/19/couple-begin-court-fight-against-ban-heterosexual-civil-partnerships?CMP=fb_gu
Oscars=racist
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3405892/Oscar-host-Chris-Rock-facing-increased-pressure-wake-Academy-Awards-celebrity-boycott.html
"Vice" seems to be capable of being outraged that extreme Metal is extreme.
http://noisey.vice.com/blog/death-metal-misogyny (http://noisey.vice.com/blog/death-metal-misogyny)
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on January 24, 2016, 12:06:11 AM
True or not, I like it.
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/01/22/locals-fled-pool-after-migrants-masturbated-into-jacuzzi-defecated-into-kids-pool-molested-bathers/
Don´t know about Zwickau but there are two other places in Germany where this did happen and the pulbic bath houses didnt allow migrants
to enter for a while. Suprise, no negative voices anymore from any of the other visitors. Now they have to visit a 30 min. course about
correct behaviour and stuff before entering the public bath houses. Suprise again, they didnt come again.
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on January 25, 2016, 01:50:08 AM
"Vice" seems to be capable of being outraged that extreme Metal is extreme.
http://noisey.vice.com/blog/death-metal-misogyny (http://noisey.vice.com/blog/death-metal-misogyny)
"Would we tolerate singing Hitler's praises for his totally brutal extermination program?" --> Yes, actually I do. :D
Got to admit though that while it's probably not very interesting, but if you're violently reacting to Castrator while not having the slightest problem with all gore stuff with women as victims, there's probably something more than just fun about it. And of course the Myrkur death threats must be mentioned. Where they of course forget to notice that bands like Darkened Nocturn Slaughtercult, Derketa and so on never got death threats (as far as I know)...
Quotehttp://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2016/01/22/white-rapper-macklemore-torn-to-shreds-for-whitesplaining-white-privilege/
I'm afraid I don't get it anymore, this is getting confusing. So, when a white man feels guilty about white privilege, he can't say it, because that again is white privilege? So white people can't be happy with white privilege, but can't feel bad about it either?! I think I need a safe space against stuff like this!
Quote from: Ashmonger on January 27, 2016, 01:12:21 PM
Quotehttp://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2016/01/22/white-rapper-macklemore-torn-to-shreds-for-whitesplaining-white-privilege/
I'm afraid I don't get it anymore, this is getting confusing. So, when a white man feels guilty about white privilege, he can't say it, because that again is white privilege? So white people can't be happy with white privilege, but can't feel bad about it either?! I think I need a safe space against stuff like this!
I just kept on laughting and did fall off my chair. What stupidity is this ?? I cannot stand it any longer, really, it is enought with this shit.
Nothing new, but I first read about it today:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/netherlands/12046714/Dutch-gallery-removes-racist-artwork-titles.html
Be very interested to see how both the feminista punter society and the "send 'em back" bigot brigade try to spin this one.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/31/teenage-girl-made-up-migrant-claim-that-caused-uproar-in-germany (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/31/teenage-girl-made-up-migrant-claim-that-caused-uproar-in-germany)
Hm...people outside and inside the scene are having a "Metal is racist we must do something about it!" moment.
http://www.theguardian.com/music/2016/feb/01/metal-community-condemns-racism-phil-anselmo-nazi-salute-white-power (http://www.theguardian.com/music/2016/feb/01/metal-community-condemns-racism-phil-anselmo-nazi-salute-white-power)
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on February 01, 2016, 02:50:35 PM
http://www.theguardian.com/music/2016/feb/01/metal-community-condemns-racism-phil-anselmo-nazi-salute-white-power (http://www.theguardian.com/music/2016/feb/01/metal-community-condemns-racism-phil-anselmo-nazi-salute-white-power)
The worst part in such cases isn't the media / masses' attack, is when someone is forced to apologize and he does it. He totally lost.
https://uk.movies.yahoo.com/post/138664286081/lars-von-trier-movie-antichrist-banned-in-france
It's banned until it gets another rating. Probably 18+ or something. Just a glitch in the system, really, but does show that the Catholic church still has public sway in some things. Cunts.
It's a good movie. "Nature is Satan's church" and "Chaos reigns" are words to live by.
it is...
Chaos Reign... memorable moment
So sexist it's like being punched in the stomach:
http://globalnews.ca/news/2497056/sfu-apologizes-for-inappropriate-sexist-national-sweater-day-video/
Canucks are such terrible people!
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on February 05, 2016, 02:57:57 AM
So sexist it's like being punched in the stomach:
http://globalnews.ca/news/2497056/sfu-apologizes-for-inappropriate-sexist-national-sweater-day-video/
Canucks are such terrible people!
Hahahahaha, this is actually too funny. Complaining because a commercial doesn't reflect a real situation...
Brian Eno's and David Byrne's My Life in the Bush of Ghosts is "cultural appropriation". This is a bad thing apparently. At least for guilt ridden commie academics who may now have to get rid of their Eno/Byrne/Talking Heads albums.
http://www.getintothis.co.uk/2016/02/brian-eno-david-byrnes-cultural-appropriation-35-years-life-bush-ghosts/?doing_wp_cron=1454792811.7830910682678222656250
Inappropriate appropriation, or whatever... I'm out. Fuck 'em all!
Interesting, though, that after a lot of typically snarky take downs the writer seems to feel the need to hedge his bets by stating "...I'd say this album is a case of appropriation gone right" and "...I think this is one of the finest and most far-reachingly (sic) influential albums of the last few decades." Mainly because it was and is and he doesn't want to look like a total dick.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/features/6919410/It-feels-like-a-bald-cat-Straight-guys-touch-other-mens-penises-for-the-first-time.html?CMP=spklr-_-Editorial-_-FBPAGE-_-TheSun-thesun-_-20160209-_-Video-_-363536532-_-Imageandlink
I would call it "interlude to bro-job"
Salty bal... I mean tears of PC faggots
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-3448981/Manny-Pacquiao-reveals-shocking-views-homosexuality-boxing-champion-claims-gay-couples-worse-animals.html
Talking about real rape culture (for a change) is unacceptable and not politically correct
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3450963/Shocking-image-depicting-white-woman-Europe-grabbed-assaulted-dark-skinned-men-cover-Polish-magazine-sparks-fury.html
Quote from: Scat-O-Logy on February 16, 2016, 03:40:53 PM
Salty bal... I mean tears of PC faggots
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-3448981/Manny-Pacquiao-reveals-shocking-views-homosexuality-boxing-champion-claims-gay-couples-worse-animals.html
Yep...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-3451652/Nike-terminate-Manny-Pacquiao-contract-following-homophobic-comments.html
Quote from: Scat-O-Logy on February 18, 2016, 05:53:27 PM
Talking about real rape culture (for a change) is unacceptable and not politically correct
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3450963/Shocking-image-depicting-white-woman-Europe-grabbed-assaulted-dark-skinned-men-cover-Polish-magazine-sparks-fury.html
Once again I'm reminded that the left and the right are pretty much of one mind when it comes to manipulating peoples' emotions for their own ideological ends. Rape is a political football for them.
We used to call it "pineapple crushing".
Just a few months ago
https://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/22/eagles-of-death-metal-star-one-kid-survived-by-hiding-under-my-jacket&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwjLttm3zoTLAhUnYpoKHWh0AQ84ChAWCBQwBQ&client=internal-uds-cse&usg=AFQjCNGTZzZJ8YDa23X0LoMTn-J6t6aoXA
A few months later
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/feb/16/eagles-of-death-metal-frontman
Today
http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/lostinshowbiz/2016/feb/19/eagles-death-metal-wrong-place-wrong-time-wrong-opinions
fucking hilarious
Nothing says equality like a rich bitch taking a year off her high paying, high profile gig to read the right books to learn how to say the right stuff.
http://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/feb/19/emma-watson-year-off-acting-to-focus-on-feminism (http://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/feb/19/emma-watson-year-off-acting-to-focus-on-feminism)
Fair play to the girl. Being financially secure since before her teens must be a hard life.
Meanwhile some "metal" festival in Germany has dropped Caina for having done not just one, but two Death in June covers. TWO!!!
I guess that Halibut wasn't good enough for Jehovah.
Quote from: GEWALTMONOPOL on February 20, 2016, 02:44:18 PM
Meanwhile some "metal" festival in Germany has dropped Caina for having done not just one, but two Death in June covers. TWO!!!
Reminds me of the "Black Metal" festival that added Sargeist to their roster and removed them a few hours later, because the band didn't comment on a few whiny sissies bitching about them.
Quote from: GEWALTMONOPOL on February 20, 2016, 02:44:18 PMMeanwhile some "metal" festival in Germany has dropped Caina for having done not just one, but two Death in June covers. TWO!!!
I find it a bit funny that it happens to a guy/band who "has spent his entire career being ridiculed and castigated, often publicly, for trying to make metal a more inclusive and tolerant place".
And speaking of Black Metal faggotry, this certainly wins the jackpot!
https://www.facebook.com/blackmetaloftheamericas/photos/pb.479303962175994.-2207520000.1456312693./642444769195245/?type=3&theater (https://www.facebook.com/blackmetaloftheamericas/photos/pb.479303962175994.-2207520000.1456312693./642444769195245/?type=3&theater)
(Though to be honest, you hardly can call shit like this BM...)
Quote from: Ashmonger on February 24, 2016, 01:19:22 PMhttps://www.facebook.com/blackmetaloftheamericas/photos/pb.479303962175994.-2207520000.1456312693./642444769195245/?type=3&theater (https://www.facebook.com/blackmetaloftheamericas/photos/pb.479303962175994.-2207520000.1456312693./642444769195245/?type=3&theater)
What the rape?
QuoteThey are not a joke, but a sacred oath. Music should be about building connections, not building boundaries. Let's be friends.
QuoteHey, I know we all hate Pitchfork or whatever, but they're streaming the new Horseback album, and it's great. Jenks was kind enough to answer some of our questions when we were just started, and that's a really rad thing.
Quoteit'd be pretty fucking rad if people stopped using the "it's art" excuse to continue normalizing oppression. what's the point of making art that reinforces the shitty way our society treats people?
Someone who knows these cunts is going to come along and tell me I don't get their sense of humour, right?
That's pretty "rad" patch right there!
I'm very left wing, but shit like this pisses me off. Andrew Jackson Jihad is (or was) a decent folk punk band (their last album sucked), but they're changing their name to AJJ because it's "problematic" to offending Muslims. In my opinion, fuck all religion, but also it's just absurd that there's even morons who would get offended by such a name. https://www.facebook.com/ajjtheband/videos/1093989677300088/
I'm sick of hearing about Kesha. I don't give a fuck about her lawsuit, I wish she'd die.
This makes perfect sense. Tell a joke, end up in front of a humans rights tribunal.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/mike-ward-petit-jeremy-human-rights-tribunal-1.3461693
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on February 27, 2016, 08:20:20 PM
This makes perfect sense. Tell a joke, end up in front of a humans rights tribunal.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/mike-ward-petit-jeremy-human-rights-tribunal-1.3461693
"Gabriel, who is now 19, became well-known in Quebec after he was flown to Rome to sing for Pope Benedict in 2006."
bloody hell!
This gets on my fucking nerves. Michael Gira was accused of being raped by a former co-worker. I don't think he actually raped anyone at all, I hope the cunt who accused him of rape gets brought to her fucking knees and apologizes. Rape accusations are a really serious crime, which are disgustingly underrated. People jump to the conclusion that he raped someone just because they want to be some feel good bitch, scapegoating for someone who cried wolf. People don't even know for sure if he raped anyone, they're already fucking witch hunting Michael Gira, they should all get raped those fucking sanctimonious cunts. They're fucking blinded by their own desire to witch hunt and feel like a better person, absolute fucking self righteous scum. They'd sooner accuse him of rape than figure out if he actually did, fucking self righteous scum GO GET RAPED!
Even if it did turn out that he raped someone, that would not stop me from enjoying his music what so ever. His music is absolutely god tier, the human condition is much to complex to simply divide everyone into good/evil.
https://www.facebook.com/coveredwithstars/posts/10206691239732330?hc_location=ufi (https://www.facebook.com/coveredwithstars/posts/10206691239732330?hc_location=ufi)
QuoteI hope people do share this post. -and I hope Larkin sees it, and I hope she is wrecked with nerves, because I repeat, I have *PROOF in her own hand* that what she wrote today is false about my husband.
Not suggesting I know about it, or that this is the last word. Just interesting.
God this gives me so much anxiety. Like, my muscles are twitching. I already said all that needs to be said, but swans is a band that symbolizes so much for me. Now, they symbolize something by their association which gives people a reason to make judgments who don't even know me. If you wear a swans shirt, you're representing rapists by association (to some people), even if he never turned out to be guilty. Ugggh it makes me so disgusted. I don't support rape, it's awful if someone did get raped, but from what I've seen there's no evidence and she's making this up. Ugh to think that I'd even make such a CAPITULATING fucking sentement drives me out of my mind. It doesn't matter what I fucking enjoy, but now this crazy fucking witch hunt hysteria is going to damage this band's name. What the FUCK!
Your acting a little erratic about something you have no personal connection too. It's ok you love swans and I'm sure that even if you wore the shirt 99% of people have no idea about any of these bands or accusations. facebook is pretty stupid.
Ah, you're right. I get caught up in the anxiety of the moment, I tend to focus on only the negatives. I was pretty pissed off last night.
Quote from: oOoOoOo on February 28, 2016, 02:15:57 PMI tend to focus on only the negatives.
A sensible policy, to my mind, but indeed it doesn't help to take things that personally.
I share your frustration with the whole thing, though, not so much in connection with Gira but with the general problem of simply being accused of something like rape being enough for others to condemn you for it. I went through similar shit which I wont go into detail about but suffice to say I was unfairly accused of sexual harassment by a former work mate. That got ironed out fortunately but among other things it made me wonder just how prevalent false accusations are. Many feminists love to insist that it's a slim minority of such accusations but I don't think I'm all that special so I don't think it's all that slim a minority. Let's just say that in rape cases I'm a firm believer in the rule of law.
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on February 28, 2016, 02:26:11 PM
Quote from: oOoOoOo on February 28, 2016, 02:15:57 PMI tend to focus on only the negatives.
A sensible policy, to my mind, but indeed it doesn't help to take things that personally.
I share your frustration with the whole thing, though, not so much in connection with Gira but with the general problem of simply being accused of something like rape being enough for others to condemn you for it. I went through similar shit which I wont go into detail about but suffice to say I was unfairly accused of sexual harassment by a former work mate. That got ironed out fortunately but among other things it made me wonder just how prevalent false accusations are. Many feminists love to insist that it's a slim minority of such accusations but I don't think I'm all that special so I don't think it's all that slim a minority. Let's just say that in rape cases I'm a firm believer in the rule of law.
I believe that there's a lot of hostility to people who even get accused of rape. I think it is absolute (what's a verb for scum?) scummy behavior to accuse someone of rape without knowing all the facts. Feminists do like to get on the self righteous bandwagon with being crusaders against rape, as if there was a more blunt and stupid stance to take against something which is such an iceberg. I do believe that anyone who witch hunts someone for someone else's accusations without knowing all the facts is a scum bag, regardless of the eventual verdict. Rape accusation is a serious crime, which can put other people's livelihoods in jeopardy, which I believe is a woefully ignored some. Rape cases should be resolved in a court of law with all of the evidence critically analyzed, not by self righteous pigs in the court of public opinion. False rape accusations are just as serious a crime as actual rape.
I just need to relax today, for fuck sake. It's like what 9:04 in the morning? I'm gonna go make an entry into a dream journal or something.
https://medium.com/@jkellytwit/nintendo-s-public-relations-employee-alison-rapp-now-vocal-for-pedophiles-656f9965c6e9#.pzigz9tap
Quote from: Vermin Marvin on March 05, 2016, 12:03:24 AM
https://medium.com/@jkellytwit/nintendo-s-public-relations-employee-alison-rapp-now-vocal-for-pedophiles-656f9965c6e9#.pzigz9tap
Cool.
QuoteIf u wanna have intelligent convos about games, you need to educate yourself on life & intersectional social issues totally outside of games.
"Pterodactyl Princess", who's definition of intelligence seems to be a bit different from my own.
It's pretty cool that she's pro pedo, I just think it's dumb that she's one of those cunts who "critiques" games and manga. Fuck censorship. It's weird that on one hand she critiques media but then has this ultra subversive pro pedo view. I mean, maybe I'm guessing wrong, maybe she reads these manga and plays these games and is like "these aren't sexual and violent enough" hahahahaha. Oh, we could only hope that there's more people like that in the world.
And the Human Rights Campaign award for Visibility goes to....Kei$ha (http://www.theguardian.com/music/video/2016/mar/08/kesha-delivers-emotional-speech-while-accepting-human-rights-campaign-award-video).
http://genderfluidsupport.tumblr.com/gender/
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on March 09, 2016, 03:44:41 AM
http://genderfluidsupport.tumblr.com/gender/
Is there really any problem with this unless they expect us to remember all these definitions? I mean honestly, it's not harmful to society or anything.
I was a bit disappointed in the definition of "burstgender".
Ahhh, good ol' fashioned gender fluidity: modern-day vernacular for effeminate males with similar testosterone levels to women, and women with slightly higher aggression levels than in the past. I knew this fat sack of shit of a 'guy' who was very much on board with this modern-day Leftist fuckwad ideology who took birth control pills, because he wanted to become a woman, and apparently, they raise estrogen levels.
As the world becomes more Leftist, feminine, and culturally similar to one another, people will be more dependent on the government and more easily-controlled: therefore more powerless to governments/institutions/corporations. Thankfully, there will always be outliers, but the average person is becoming more and more dependent upon others for protection/survival.
People are obviously less physically-capable, as well because of obvious dependency, better quality of life, comfort and Leftist / Feminist ideology. And, the human brain continues to get smaller, just like brain of domesticated dog is much smaller to the brain of a wolf (compare that, with all domesticated vs wild species), yet some Leftist theorists under the facilitation of Leftist-based academia, have the balls (heheheh) to proclaim domestication is making humans more intelligent?
Quote from: oOoOoOo on March 09, 2016, 05:23:37 AM
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on March 09, 2016, 03:44:41 AM
http://genderfluidsupport.tumblr.com/gender/
Is there really any problem with this unless they expect us to remember all these definitions? I mean honestly, it's not harmful to society or anything.
I don't see it as harmful to society, it'll take something much more than that. The point of this thread is more to make fun of dickheads who think they're more right-on than the rest of us. You're free to take it as seriously or not as you feel.
For mine, this is a load of cobblers because the human race doesn't need this many definitions. Either abolish the notion of gender all together or stick with the sperm provider/ovum provider symmetry.
meanwhile in Germany
sex education for immigrants: http://www.zanzu.be/en
Quote from: tiny_tove on March 09, 2016, 10:29:15 PM
meanwhile in Germany
sex education for immigrants: http://www.zanzu.be/en
HAHAHAHHA!! Thanx for that one.
Quote from: tiny_tove on March 09, 2016, 10:29:15 PM
meanwhile in Germany
sex education for immigrants: http://www.zanzu.be/en
Belgium and more specifically Flanders.
Seems like a funny website, good for children too, I think.
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on March 09, 2016, 01:59:21 PM
Quote from: oOoOoOo on March 09, 2016, 05:23:37 AM
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on March 09, 2016, 03:44:41 AM
http://genderfluidsupport.tumblr.com/gender/
Is there really any problem with this unless they expect us to remember all these definitions? I mean honestly, it's not harmful to society or anything.
I don't see it as harmful to society, it'll take something much more than that. The point of this thread is more to make fun of dickheads who think they're more right-on than the rest of us. You're free to take it as seriously or not as you feel.
For mine, this is a load of cobblers because the human race doesn't need this many definitions. Either abolish the notion of gender all together or stick with the sperm provider/ovum provider symmetry.
Nah it's stupid to have so many definitions, I agree. I'm all for abolishing the notion of gender. I already think that way.
Here's something I wrote on the nature of the human condition that I wanted to share here. I tried to add spoilers, but I couldn't so sorry about that.
"I wonder if people really have the capacity to care about one another. Part of me wonders if what I'm about to write is creating a paradox in my own head, but if that's what this reveals then I'll leave that up for you to decide.
I was thinking about my immense sympathy for the mentally disturbed, the people who do things that are considered wrong in the eyes of others. Whether it be the things which people consider taboo, or whether the things that people do really harm another individual.
I was thinking about the self righteousness that people feel, over other people who they perceive to be less respectable than them. People feel that it's good to hate the bad guy, love the good guy, condemn those who do harm to others. That to me seems so flawed, such a damaging and skewed way of thinking, I can't even begin to describe how it troubles me.
You see it in religions, good vs evil, the ultimate archetype of bad, the fictional character satan. I have so much respect for satan, but that's beside the point. Looking at people as simply good and bad, it's so clear as day to me, I feel it in the core of my being; that is a flawed way of thinking, which I believe is the root of human ignorance and prejudice.
Put simply, if you don't understand the reason behind the way a person acts, yet you only condemn their bad deeds, you basically take blind onus in those who are perceived to be right and never understand those who you believe are wrong. This sort of thinking is wrong for so many reasons, but I feel like if why this troubles me is already lost on you, there may be no reason to even list the reasons in the first place.
I wonder what gives people such a myopic perspective. What takes away the compassion for others, gives people that bug eyed self righteous glazed look. When we encounter people who we have a distaste for, we're shocked, we're offended. This is the nature of human beings. Human beings stone, throw tomatoes, we have innate feelings like cringing at other human beings. I believe we're an inherently selfish race of people.
That is part of what i believe causes the problem. Human beings have an innate fight or flight response inside of them. Some human beings are unable to face the things that frighten them right in the face, they feel uncomfortable and afraid. To me, that cowardice and prejudice and ignorance is more disgusting than any crime committed by a serial killer, or any rapist, or any of the weirdest, most outcast people in all of the world.
People simply being people, there shouldn't be a bunch of people with picket signs protesting human nature."
^ Well, Humans are violent at the heart of the matter, even and especially pacifist types. Sex, whether BDSM or not, is about thrusting and gyrating, and penetrating, physical words that can be described as violent, some more than others. A more honest society about human nature would be great. It would probably look a lot like pre-Christian Rome.
But, I don't think it's entirely the issue. I think most problems are because of overpopulation, rather than honesty about human nature, albeit I can see how they go hand-in-hand: a smaller world, closer to Nature, would allow such a discourse on honesty.
Quote from: AMRadioWaveMessage on March 15, 2016, 12:44:19 AM
^ Well, Humans are violent at the heart of the matter, even and especially pacifist types. Sex, whether BDSM or not, is about thrusting and gyrating, and penetrating, physical words that can be described as violent, some more than others. A more honest society about human nature would be great. It would probably look a lot like pre-Christian Rome.
But, I don't think it's entirely the issue. I think most problems are because of overpopulation, rather than honesty about human nature, albeit I can see how they go hand-in-hand: a smaller world, closer to Nature, would allow such a discourse on honesty.
I believe we'll always be divided and fail to solve and real problems in the world if we don't try to understand each other. Looking at things as good or bad is probably not how one should look at human nature. It's neither good nor bad, it should be looked at for what it is and evaluated objectively. I see none of that in the world we live in, I see a society full of people that cannot sustain itself, which doesn't compensate for the nature of it's own people who built it. I am all for a fairer, freer, happier society. Our society doesn't work because human beings are unintelligent and not wired to act intelligently and cooperatively. I think of our society as, say, trying to find a comfortable position in bed if you're sick or have a broken bone. It is difficult and it hurts, and you never quite reach that comfortable position.
What spurred me to write all this is my immense sympathy for Ted Kaczynski. I refreshed my memory on his case when I read an article about him yesterday.
Quote from: oOoOoOo on March 15, 2016, 01:54:35 AMOur society doesn't work because human beings are unintelligent and not wired to act intelligently and cooperatively.
We can and do act intelligently and cooperatively, but not to the benefit of everyone or everything. We're tribal animals, we prefer our own family units, and within those units we're pretty much functional provided all the individuals stick with the programme. Anyone and anything outside of our immediate groups, though, can go to hell as far as we're concerned, and we're all eager to help each other to get there.
I was banned from a facebook group 2 days ago after I had a massive 120 reply argument with this feminist. I believe I won the argument, she was just a cunt who said that I hate rape victims, I'm what's wrong with society or whatever. All this because I was posting evidence that suggests Larkin Grimm isn't trustworthy. I fucking hate those "anti-rape" feminist cunts so much, they're so full of shit. No, I'm not pro-rape, or part of some stupid paranoid bullshit "rape culture", I just believe in guilty until proven innocent and fucking facts. But oh man, if there's anyone I wish I could just deck right in the fucking face, it would be that condescending as fuck feminist cunt. They just go out of their way to annoy you, someone really aught to put them the fuck in their place.
This thread is turning into the voice of butthurt instead of articles about upset and ridiculous shit. Hah.
May not seem the most fitting, but as an American viewing his "deplorable" cell and being knowledgeable of jails and prisons here I got quite a laugh! Poor guy couldn't even concentrate on his poli sci studies!
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35807961
"In a letter to prison authorities, he said his cell was poorly decorated and had no view. He also complained that his coffee was served cold, he did not have enough butter for his bread, and he was not allowed moisturiser."
Quote from: Johann on March 16, 2016, 03:18:42 AM
This thread is turning into the voice of butthurt instead of articles about upset and ridiculous shit. Hah.
yeah sorry lol! I hope it's not to big of a problem. It's like, my butthurt is related to other butthurt. I have brought shame to the zone of people who are too good for butthurt! Just kiddinggggggg~
http://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/mar/16/bbc-breakfast-countryfile-louise-minchin-sofa-dan-walker (http://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/mar/16/bbc-breakfast-countryfile-louise-minchin-sofa-dan-walker)
Quote from: Johann on March 16, 2016, 03:18:42 AM
This thread is turning into the voice of butthurt instead of articles about upset and ridiculous shit. Hah.
I believe that was, in fact, the intent.
http://www.theguardian.com/music/2016/mar/18/beyonce-casts-model-with-muscular-dystrophy-to-promote-new-products (http://www.theguardian.com/music/2016/mar/18/beyonce-casts-model-with-muscular-dystrophy-to-promote-new-products)
http://www.theverge.com/2016/3/24/11297050/tay-microsoft-chatbot-racist (http://www.theverge.com/2016/3/24/11297050/tay-microsoft-chatbot-racist)
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/mar/29/sexy-pose-removed-overwatch-game-fans-complain-blizzard (http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/mar/29/sexy-pose-removed-overwatch-game-fans-complain-blizzard)
'Cultural appropriation: Black San Francisco State University employee assaults hippy for wearing dreadlocks:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDlQ4H0Kdg8
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on March 30, 2016, 04:51:29 AM
'Cultural appropriation: Black San Francisco State University employee assaults hippy for wearing dreadlocks:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDlQ4H0Kdg8
Watched that four times straightaway, had to find out their names and everything. She should have given him a safe word but it looks like her and the er, flamboyant gentleman she's with might already understand a little more of the real scenario behind the dialogue than hippy boy. Incredible clip, should have gone in the porn appreciation thread.
"Assault"?!
I've been told that legally speaking, here in La Bas any form of physical contact is considered assault. Even pointing can be interpreted so. For a while I've thought "political correctness" means "legal correctness".
http://reason.com/blog/2016/03/30/black-student-assaults-white-teen-becaus
The female student in the video should take a look at the Wikipedia page about dreadlocks. It seems that 'her culture' isn't the only culture to grow the horrible things.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on March 30, 2016, 07:49:34 PM
http://reason.com/blog/2016/03/30/black-student-assaults-white-teen-becaus
The female student in the video should take a look at the Wikipedia page about dreadlocks. It seems that 'her culture' isn't the only culture to grow the horrible things.
She's a piece of garbage. It's pretty obvious that she was baiting him, probably in hopes that he would say something racist and then he would look like the asshole. He took it pretty well and I'm glad he did so it wouldn't have been turned around on him.
Quote from: PTM Jim on March 30, 2016, 11:31:21 PM
in hopes that he would say something racist and then he would look like the asshole
Or in the hopes that she could then switch? http://jezebel.com/5868600/when-prejudice-is-sexy-inside-the-kinky-world-of-race-play - can't be just me seeing this stuff. Look at the raging pervert she's with. Maybe it is just me.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on March 30, 2016, 04:51:29 AM
'Cultural appropriation: Black San Francisco State University employee assaults hippy for wearing dreadlocks:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDlQ4H0Kdg8
Now there's a girl who needs to be beaten senseless in the face.
Fortunately the response to that video seems to be overwhelming consensus that she's a cunt. So I don't think there's need to worry.
Being a liberal myself, a non social justice warrior, skeptical about feminism, liberal, I see shit like this and it makes me sick. I think just about any sane individual would.
Quote from: oOoOoOo on March 31, 2016, 04:29:08 AM
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on March 30, 2016, 04:51:29 AM
'Cultural appropriation: Black San Francisco State University employee assaults hippy for wearing dreadlocks:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDlQ4H0Kdg8
Now there's a girl who needs to be beaten senseless in the face.
Fortunately the response to that video seems to be overwhelming consensus that she's a cunt. So I don't think there's need to worry.
Being a liberal myself, a non social justice warrior, skeptical about feminism, liberal, I see shit like this and it makes me sick. I think just about any sane individual would.
Are you American 'liberal' or European 'liberal'?
hey-ohhhh!
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on April 01, 2016, 10:22:22 PM
Quote from: oOoOoOo on March 31, 2016, 04:29:08 AM
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on March 30, 2016, 04:51:29 AM
'Cultural appropriation: Black San Francisco State University employee assaults hippy for wearing dreadlocks:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDlQ4H0Kdg8
Now there's a girl who needs to be beaten senseless in the face.
Fortunately the response to that video seems to be overwhelming consensus that she's a cunt. So I don't think there's need to worry.
Being a liberal myself, a non social justice warrior, skeptical about feminism, liberal, I see shit like this and it makes me sick. I think just about any sane individual would.
Are you American 'liberal' or European 'liberal'?
I have no idea LOL. I try to inform myself from a really vast array of sources. I watch a lot of sargon of akkad videos, Pat Condell, I used to watch the amazing atheist a lot, I've watched some stefan molyneux, a tiny bit of conservative pundits like Milo Yiannopoulos (who I find sorta funny and cringeworthy) and a tiny bit of Ben Shapiro (who I'm split on stuff I agree and disagree with him over), a lot of vice magazine, national geographic, lots of ted talks, lgbt organization sources, a tiny bit of the young turks, I still like Rachael Maddow from when I used to watch msnbc in my early teens. My favorite politicians I can think of off the top of my head are barack obama and bernie sanders. I also follow a lot of scientists like richard dawkins, neil degrass tyson, bill nye the science guy (yes he is legit), nasa, and atheists in general like ricky gervais. Also a ton of news sources I didn't mention, which I get updates. This is honestly why I love facebook.
Idk if that answers your question, but I try to stay informed and I love opening myself up to new sources of information. I watched history and science channel mostly back before the recession when history actually an documentaries. I'm undercutting all the news sources I have too, because I read a lot of articles not from websites I mention, documentaries, conversations I have with innumerable people on the internet.
Another one of my favorite things to do is to research the benefits of food. I'm an extremely, viciously health conscious person.
Not sure what's the weight limit on UFO's.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3522431/The-aliens-coming-ll-FAT-ones-Gym-accused-offensive-advert-claiming-ET-invasion-best-reason-getting-shape.html
Butthurt:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3528236/Male-Norwegian-politician-raped-asylum-seeker-says-feels-GUILTY-attacker-deported-man-suffer-Somalia.html
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on April 07, 2016, 11:16:35 PM
Butthurt:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3528236/Male-Norwegian-politician-raped-asylum-seeker-says-feels-GUILTY-attacker-deported-man-suffer-Somalia.html
That's just fucking weird.
Not weird really. This is what i always believed about refugee / migrant supporters, "lovers" or lovers ! Sex or money is their motive. OK some are just insane, i agree.
Another example : a single 40 YO unknown actress [First time i see her, cause of that] has two 20 YO male refugees in her house and she's proud of it. "Hospitality". https://youtu.be/XdlKPXi44tc
Quote from: oOoOoOo on April 08, 2016, 04:00:58 PM
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on April 07, 2016, 11:16:35 PM
Butthurt:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3528236/Male-Norwegian-politician-raped-asylum-seeker-says-feels-GUILTY-attacker-deported-man-suffer-Somalia.html
That's just fucking weird.
I want to puke.
Maybe not the right place to post this, but I have been wondering, would you trust the pharmaceutical companies? I met with my mom today, I was talking to her about weed, how I'm interested in it. She doesn't like the idea, then points out my hypocrisy with being okay with weed, but not wanting to take anti anxiety medication. She said "you could have gone all those years without anxiety, if you just took anti anxiety medication". The thought of giving money to a pharmaceutical company so they can "fix" my anxiety, I don't trust any of that stuff. A lot of people seem to attest to anti depressants and anti anxiety medication, the stuff just creeps me out. It seems so Orwellian, in that we live in this society where such a thing is necessary, we create these problems for ourselves, then we fix them with drugs. It's unsettling.
I'm not worried about conspiracies as much as I am worried about side effects, changing the chemistry of my brain, pharmaceutical companies basically wanting to make money off of you so they can sell you their drugs. They do the same with schools. They put you in a rigid environment which isn't designed for creative people, then they put your mind on stimulants if you feel that it's too boring. Same with society. If you find this society too boring and too depressing, you'll become one of the millions of people on anti depressant and anti anxiety medications. It seems so fucked up, I don't want any of that stuff inside of me.
Quote from: PTM Jim on March 30, 2016, 11:31:21 PM
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on March 30, 2016, 07:49:34 PM
http://reason.com/blog/2016/03/30/black-student-assaults-white-teen-becaus
The female student in the video should take a look at the Wikipedia page about dreadlocks. It seems that 'her culture' isn't the only culture to grow the horrible things.
She's a piece of garbage. It's pretty obvious that she was baiting him, probably in hopes that he would say something racist and then he would look like the asshole. He took it pretty well and I'm glad he did so it wouldn't have been turned around on him.
yuuuuup
i love how they're all for filming confrontations with police and such (which im ok with) but when the camera's turned on them it's not ok? what a maroon
http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/27015/
More on the silly dreadlock video, which, I thought would turn out to be a hoax.
Germany is on the right track here:
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/660477/Germany-bans-sexy-women-adverts-Cologne-sex-assaults
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on April 13, 2016, 09:26:00 PM
http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/27015/
More on the silly dreadlock video, which, I thought would turn out to be a hoax.
hahaha....wow, it would have been incredibly hard for me to not punch this digusting nigger cunt in the face immediately if I were in this kid's shoes. In any case, this is what your transparently fake egalitarian, multicultural, melting pot/toilet bowl culture has earned you America and I'm always glad to see American citizens eatting each other alive like this.
http://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/apr/26/grayson-perry-bear-grylls-masculinity?CMP=fb_gu
aren't you all a bunch of edgy motherfuckers
Jim Goad often makes me laugh but this one about the Norwegian lefty who feels guilty over the Somalian man who raped him being deported back to Somalia caused such severe guffaws I nearly suffered an aneurysm.
http://takimag.com/article/grab_your_ankles_and_let_them_in_jim_goad#axzz46rEoHmaQ
England Banning Their Own Flag
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=mTlr0707vLU
Quote from: GEWALTMONOPOL on April 26, 2016, 04:31:24 PM
Jim Goad often makes me laugh but this one about the Norwegian lefty who feels guilty over the Somalian man who raped him being deported back to Somalia caused such severe guffaws I nearly suffered an aneurysm.
http://takimag.com/article/grab_your_ankles_and_let_them_in_jim_goad#axzz46rEoHmaQ
total classic
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https://imgur.com/a/pk5z5
Camp of finnish anti-nuclear power/pro-nature protesters after they left. Nature thanks.
Quote from: Scat-O-Logy on April 29, 2016, 03:58:16 PM
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Here is that lovely lady:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y69tkCbeC5o
She yells "this is free speech" and then immediately after yells "keep your free speech out of this campus".
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What a grotesque looking person. Even the way she flails her arms is annoying.
Quote from: Si Clark on May 02, 2016, 08:22:54 PM
Quote from: oOoOoOo on May 02, 2016, 05:29:46 AM
She yells "this is free speech" and then immediately after yells "keep your free speech out of this campus".
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What a grotesque looking person. Even the way she flails her arms is annoying.
I'm not sticking up or supporting that fuck wit in any way but she is screaming 'keep your hate speech out of this campus'.
Before that she said "this is free speech" when she was screaming "you're not welcome here" and then right afterwards yelling "get your free speech out of this campus".
The issue of political correctness boggles my mind so much, as a progressive. I, and I'm sure many others on this website, am against racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia, hell I don't even believe there's such thing as a good or bad person. That's just my philosophical point of view, that doesn't mean I don't think some people are pieces of shit who piss me off. Even though I've read so many articles and watched so many segments about what's going on in college campuses and with sjws, I still don't feel like I can adequately describe what these things are to someone who's never heard of these things.
I think it's a generational issue. I think that people who are around the same age group, growing up along side the people who this effects, are the ones who are involved in this issue. I saw my mom yesterday, she didn't have a fucking clue what any of the things I was talking about where, even though I've been following this issue and had this issue shoved into my face for years now in the news. To be quite honest, I'm not sure I really understand what's going on myself.
I'm generally a pretty open minded person. I feel that people should just be allowed to be themselves, we shouldn't be policing the way other people are. That's the sort of thing that the right wing does, is try to police the things that people do. It's like, two authoritarian parties clashing in the united states right now. On one hand you have assholes who want to keep things conservative and ban transgender people from bathrooms and instate laws allowing businesses to discriminate. On the other hand you have a younger generation who is extremely sensitive to these issues, who want to ban anything considered hate speech.
And you know? The more I think about it, the more confused I get, sometimes the more I'd rather just be on the side of social justice warriors. I don't know, I think that I'm okay with people wanting to have like 30 genders, or say that any hate speech against minorities is wrong, or say that everyone is inherently sexist and racist and homophobic. In a way there really are inherent societal structures of homophobia and sexism. I mean, just look at how gay people have to "come out of the closet" and we don't just expect everyone to like either sex. Or look at how men and women are perceived to be two separate categories, if someone born with male genitalia or vice versa wants to identify as a female and have a female name, why not just respect their decision? I see that as sexist and inconsiderate.
So, is it really a bad thing if the people who I guess are sensitive about the issue are gaining more power? I think it seems like alarmist culture to me. I don't really see exactly what is going to happen because of this new generation of social justice warrior youths. The only thing that I see as a bit of a problem are people abandoning the idea that being fit is healthier and more attractive. The body positive movement is disgraceful, unhealthy, and gives women a false notion that everyone who doesn't think they're attractive is just a bigoted asshole. I see that as damaging, but I don't know so much about the other stuff.
Maybe it's just the politics of it all that are messy. I've definitely seen some stuff that the social justice warriors will say that seems like bullshit. They'll say that there's a gender pay gap in between men and women, which I've heard is bullshit, but then a lot of people seem to think it's real. I have no fucking clue, who the hell can you trust for your news in this day and age. This is the age of misinformation. And the rhetoric against males being rapist and "teach men not to rape" seems so counter productive. You're not going to teach someone that sort of thing, people know it's wrong to rape but they do it anyways because they don't have empathy.
In the end, doesn't the whole issue just make you feel stupider? I actually feel less intelligent when I think of political correctness and the politics of race and gender and whatever else. It's just a new generation of people trying to define themselves, it's so massive and so beyond my grasp of comprehension, why even bother? This issue probably isn't even going to effect anyone, it's a waste of time.
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I heard something really great on secular talk radio today. There's a difference between being correct and politically correct. Being correct just means you have your facts checked, being politically correct means you can't say something because it's inappropriate and may offend people, basically just censorship. It can happen with democrats or republicans. I've always argued, look I don't like political correctness, but I get shut down by people saying that being politically correct is just being respectful. I fight so hard to try to get my fucking point across, but it never works. I think I've found a new way of explaining this to people that gives me an upper hand in an argument.
Well, there may also be the cynical read which says that in a world ruled by the high priests of the Word of Law, it is (politically) correct because it is (politically) expedient. Just ask any public figure forced, in part by his own lawyer or publicist, to backpedal. We may laugh at that Norwegian politician, but I'm sure his constituents love him.
Quote from: oOoOoOo on May 13, 2016, 08:03:06 AMI get shut down by people saying that being politically correct is just being respectful. I fight so hard to try to get my fucking point across, but it never works.
Then fuck respect. In the words of Foetus, "say what you mean and say it mean" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXsEnha9Q94 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXsEnha9Q94)). Or, make fun of them. But if you're not going to back your words up, say nothing.
If I may add to this that I think the term politically correct is long redundant. It's more complex and sinister today as the PC of the past has become more powerful and controlling. The result of playing along with those ideas in the first place is that the philosophy behind them was never going to settle for it being about politeness or respect to others, that's just the harmless introduction it made to get on the first rung of the ladder, and it's on a full blown power trip towards control over language and thoughts. Language is a BIG factor here. Those who control language ultimately have the powers to control everything.
PC is gone - we need new a terminology to pin down the ones who are trying to gain control over every facet of our existence.
Quote from: GEWALTMONOPOL on May 13, 2016, 05:23:23 PM
If I may add to this that I think the term politically correct is long redundant. It's more complex and sinister today as the PC of the past has become more powerful and controlling. The result of playing along with those ideas in the first place is that the philosophy behind them was never going to settle for it being about politeness or respect to others, that's just the harmless introduction it made to get on the first rung of the ladder, and it's on a full blown power trip towards control over language and thoughts. Language is a BIG factor here. Those who control language ultimately have the powers to control everything.
PC is gone - we need new a terminology to pin down the ones who are trying to gain control over every facet of our existence.
I think political correctness more and more embraces the usage of thought stopping cliches, which any form of political ideology uses, though prehaps not quite as blatantly as PC culture does. The right wing says that things are "degenerate" or "indecent" and the left says things are "offensive". If you buy into any of these concepts and want to remain on the good side of your brothers in political arms, you hear these words then think "I need to change my behavior so I don't become like
them" (them being the scapegoat of your chosen ideology eg. the Jews, racists, gays, men etc. )
Quote from: GEWALTMONOPOL on May 13, 2016, 05:23:23 PM
PC is gone - we need new a terminology to pin down the ones who are trying to gain control over every facet of our existence.
Agreed, a new terminology is absolutely necessary.
What both the protest left and whinging right have in common, among nearly everything else, is this sense of being oppressed and put upon. That's where the whole mentality comes from. That's why their language is all about "fighting back" against whoever or whatever it is that they feel is picking on them. That everyone is shat on, to some degree, doesn't matter compared to them being shat on. It's all about this myopic, self-obsessed view of the world as something that is against them because they have cunts, or are white, or whatever it is. There'll always be someone somewhere writing or talking about it to give there paranoia validity.
The trouble for the pc left is that their ideas are actually gaining ascendancy in mainstream culture and they don't know how to change gears. It's going to be "we're being oppressed for who we are!" even when a lot of them are in legitimate power positions. We're all "inclusive" now.
It's a weird scene, really. The right won the economic war, the class war, the only struggle that mattered. So the left are consoling themselves with power in the cultural field. The result is societies with brutal economic stratification but with quotas for more "minorities" on the board of directors and shit like that.
monsieur Ludo says:
05.13.16 at 11:27 am
I'm French, and God knows how right these men are.
We are raised to become pussies, if you try to be a man, you'll be humiliated or even sued.
Claim Islam is a problem? Sued;
You have a gun? Sued;
You're bullied and dared to fight back? Expelled, first, sued later.
Feminism-PC-LGBT-White Guilt-Socialist policy created all these issues. Americans are right to say that French people are cowards and pussies, because we truly are. After the Charlie Hebdo attack and the November 13th one, what did we do? We made demonstration pro-Peace and Love and "...That's not what Islam is"... I'm so ashamed. Now there's a fucking anti-white, anti-France, Muslim who said that French are "Kouffars" (Infidel) on LIVE televison, and he's going to sing at the 100th anniversary of the Battle of Verdun, where our ancestors died for us during WWI (another great socialist idea).
Seriously guys, I live in a socialist country, it's a nightmare, and we're going down. Don't believe the socialist lies of your clueless liberals. Yeah we get health care and cheap college degrees but these are mere "confetti" to dumb the people down and make them even more dependent on the State.
The PC policy is so high in France, that a famous journalist has been condemned for saying that there was no Celtic Black people. Dude! That's a fucking fact!!!
Look, Trump is an asshole, but I am currently begging my American wife to vote for him. I hold a green card so I won't be able to vote until I become a citizen. (I'll be ready when 2020 comes).
Still, between Trump and the socialists, my choice is made.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on May 14, 2016, 04:54:45 AM
monsieur Ludo says:
05.13.16 at 11:27 am
I'm French, and God knows how right these men are.
We are raised to become pussies, if you try to be a man, you'll be humiliated or even sued.
Claim Islam is a problem? Sued;
You have a gun? Sued;
You're bullied and dared to fight back? Expelled, first, sued later.
Feminism-PC-LGBT-White Guilt-Socialist policy created all these issues. Americans are right to say that French people are cowards and pussies, because we truly are. After the Charlie Hebdo attack and the November 13th one, what did we do? We made demonstration pro-Peace and Love and "...That's not what Islam is"... I'm so ashamed. Now there's a fucking anti-white, anti-France, Muslim who said that French are "Kouffars" (Infidel) on LIVE televison, and he's going to sing at the 100th anniversary of the Battle of Verdun, where our ancestors died for us during WWI (another great socialist idea).
Seriously guys, I live in a socialist country, it's a nightmare, and we're going down. Don't believe the socialist lies of your clueless liberals. Yeah we get health care and cheap college degrees but these are mere "confetti" to dumb the people down and make them even more dependent on the State.
The PC policy is so high in France, that a famous journalist has been condemned for saying that there was no Celtic Black people. Dude! That's a fucking fact!!!
Look, Trump is an asshole, but I am currently begging my American wife to vote for him. I hold a green card so I won't be able to vote until I become a citizen. (I'll be ready when 2020 comes).
Still, between Trump and the socialists, my choice is made.
if everyone had the courage to be a fucking pussy, the world would be a better place.
If everyone had the balls to be a pussy, the world would be a good place to download porn.
Quote from: Bloated Slutbag on May 14, 2016, 03:54:48 PM
If everyone had the balls to be a pussy, the world would be a good place to download porn.
Well, I do alright, so I must be a cunt.
If literally every single person lived by [INSERT POLITICAL, RELIGIOUS OR ETHICAL DOCTRINE HERE], then most things would probably be largely ok, if perhaps a tad uniform. Since that is not happening, ever, any idea that depends on the condition "if everone..." is about as useful as an instruction manual that begins with the phrase "since electricity is in fact a liquid..."
it's just something to aspire to.
the harder they come
http://gawker.com/eater-com-editor-placed-on-leave-after-apologizing-for-1776323349#replies
well. the whole situation is ridicolous, both for Nick getting crucified for something he claims to have taken a stand against, and the way he begged for mercy.
you can change idea, even radically, you can even try to explain yourself, but you never say sorry in that way.
Quote from: tiny_tove on May 17, 2016, 09:55:25 PM
well. the whole situation is ridicolous, both for Nick getting crucified for something he claims to have taken a stand against, and the way he begged for mercy.
you can change idea, even radically, you can even try to explain yourself, but you never say sorry in that way.
Well, it is his entire livelihood the revolting little sewer rats are trying to take from him. For absolutely no discernible reason, as far as I can tell. It would certainly be more satisfying if he told them to go fuck themselves, but I think it's understandable that he panics and tries to get away from the whole situation.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on May 14, 2016, 04:54:45 AM
monsieur Ludo says:
05.13.16 at 11:27 am
Look, Trump is an asshole, but I am currently begging my American wife to take it up the ass while I wear my Donald mask.
http://www.vice.com/en_au/read/this-is-why-a-transsexual-woman-burned-a-rainbow-pride-flag (http://www.vice.com/en_au/read/this-is-why-a-transsexual-woman-burned-a-rainbow-pride-flag)
Quote"I would like it if transsexual wasn't included in LGBT," she told VICE.
In case you need a refresher: transsexual is a term we've had for at least half a century, and refers to people whose gender doesn't match their assigned sex, many of whom pursue reassignment treatment and surgery. Transgender, on the other hand, is a relatively new umbrella term that includes all kinds of of expressions, including transsexual. Trouble is, Fink says her identity is much closer to "straight" than "queer."
The fucking "T" in LGBT stands for Transgender.
And Trannies are "queer" because queer means odd, strange, and/or unusual.
I should just sit back and enjoy this one though. I love when the Left fights the Left.
Quote from: Stoa on May 14, 2016, 10:41:09 PM
If literally every single person lived by [INSERT POLITICAL, RELIGIOUS OR ETHICAL DOCTRINE HERE], then most things would probably be largely ok, if perhaps a tad uniform. Since that is not happening, ever, any idea that depends on the condition "if everone..." is about as useful as an instruction manual that begins with the phrase "since electricity is in fact a liquid..."
you're not wrong, but isn't that kind of a moot point to be making in a thread consisting of almost 100 pages of bashing people and ideas DIFFERENT to yours or mine?
Wow, Sarah is pissed http://www.vice.com/en_ca/read/a-bc-dad-left-his-lesbian-daughter-zero-inheritance-and-now-shes-suing?utm_source=vicefbca
Quote from: Duncan on May 18, 2016, 08:52:16 PM...a thread consisting of almost 100 pages of bashing people and ideas DIFFERENT to yours or mine?
"Bashing", you say? Laughing at, sneering at, making fun of, being condescending towards, even complaining about - that's definitely why I'm here.
But bashing? Please. Some of us have standards.
http://boingboing.net/2016/05/19/second-lifes-trump-army-lays.html
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on May 19, 2016, 05:11:26 PM
Quote from: Duncan on May 18, 2016, 08:52:16 PM...a thread consisting of almost 100 pages of bashing people and ideas DIFFERENT to yours or mine?
"Bashing", you say? Laughing at, sneering at, making fun of, being condescending towards, even complaining about - that's definitely why I'm here.
But bashing? Please. Some of us have standards.
The crushing limitations of language and the written word. 'Bashing' is a flawed term but one, I think, that usefully encapsulates all of the things you mention here. Maybe it's a UK thing. I hope so. We love to bash things, see.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on May 21, 2016, 12:00:20 AM
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/05/20/eagles-of-death-metal-band-who-survived-bataclan-attack-unwelcome-at-french-rock-fests.html
The interview that got him in trouble: http://takimag.com/article/surrendering_to_death_gavin_mcinnes/print#axzz49Q8LUu54
Quote from: Stoa on May 22, 2016, 11:59:40 PM
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on May 21, 2016, 12:00:20 AM
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/05/20/eagles-of-death-metal-band-who-survived-bataclan-attack-unwelcome-at-french-rock-fests.html
The interview that got him in trouble: http://takimag.com/article/surrendering_to_death_gavin_mcinnes/print#axzz49Q8LUu54
The EODM vocalist has done a few interviews saying basically the same thing. He's kind of an interesting guy. There's one article that I read before the terrorist attack about how much drugs he does & that he has to get them from gay bars but he cleans up before going on tours.
I guess being a mega-conservative who buys all his drugs from gay bars is kinda interesting.
Quote from: aububs on May 23, 2016, 09:33:04 AM
I guess being a mega-conservative who buys all his drugs from gay bars is kinda interesting.
It's sort of a new generation, perhaps best exemplified by the likes of Gavin McInnes and Jim Goad. Circumstances like the fact that "PC" is now a big business and government doctrine (prone to engaging in more or less repressive censorship), the insistence on stuff like having men invading women's toilets, and of course actual social problems related to various minorities, but not to "white racism", have made people who probably would have been (or even have been) left wing punks a few decades ago turn "conservative". It has quite little to do with conservatism as an ideology, less to do with the more "traditional" US conservatism of the Bible Belt and nothing what so ever to do with the Beltway republican racket.
It is interesting, either way.
Quote from: Stoa on May 23, 2016, 12:11:45 PMIt has quite little to do with conservatism as an ideology, less to do with the more "traditional" US conservatism of the Bible Belt and nothing what so ever to do with the Beltway republican racket.
I think it has a lot to do with those things, and people like Gavin McInnes are like the poster boys.
Couch it in whatever terms you want, "new generation", "used to be left-wing punks", "PC gone mad", and...uh..."men invading women's toilets", but if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck it's probably a mega-conservative guy buying speed in a gay bar.
"...it's probably a mega-conservative guy buying speed in a gay bar."
You say that like it's a bad thing.
Here's that article:
http://grantland.com/hollywood-prospectus/the-devil-and-jesse-hughes-the-donald-trump-supporting-drug-hoovering-frontman-for-eagles-of-death-metal-will-not-apologize-for-anything/
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on May 24, 2016, 01:16:57 AM
"...it's probably a mega-conservative guy buying speed in a gay bar."
You say that like it's a bad thing.
nah, it's half good.
"Eating two strips of Rapley's award-winning bacon for breakfast reduces your chance of being a suicide bomber by 100 per cent"
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3604664/Narooma-butcher-tries-boost-bacon-sales-suicide-bomber-sign.html
http://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/apr/27/vice-uk-union-recognition-nuj (http://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/apr/27/vice-uk-union-recognition-nuj)
I missed this article and only read it today after it linked from this (http://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/may/24/vice-media-lays-off-20-staff-in-restructuring-plans) article about lay-offs. Vice - "progressive" in modern culture, same old shit in basic industrial relations.
I wonder if there is a way to pinpoint exactly the moment it swung from "I'm not a racist but..." to "I'm not against free speech but...".
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on May 25, 2016, 09:25:43 PM
"When [speech] is coming from a point of ignorance [..] You get Charleston. These are what you get as a result of his type of speech and rhetoric."
I do hate these Charleston. It's like the whole quote is caving in on itself as I read it, and it hurts my head. If there is ever a protest against protesters, I'll attend. The apparent logical problem would, as far as I understand protests, not be an issue.
Quote from: GEWALTMONOPOL on May 25, 2016, 10:03:42 PM
I wonder if there is a way to pinpoint exactly the moment it swung from "I'm not a racist but..." to "I'm not against free speech but...".
In all fairness, they very rarely claim not to be against free speech.
Good clean fun
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3611449/Race-row-Chinese-laundry-detergent-company-s-commercial-showing-woman-shoving-black-suitor-washing-machine-smiling-delight-emerges-Asian-man.html
I often wonder if the Outrage Brigade are that stupid that they just take whatever bait is laid before them, or if they are aware that they are being played and just cynically play along anyway.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1K4ccdzlvhk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1K4ccdzlvhk)
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/may/30/man-charged-t-shirt-mocking-hillsborough-tragedy (http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/may/30/man-charged-t-shirt-mocking-hillsborough-tragedy)
meh. PC shit is annoying. I used to go to a college (New College of California) where the dean was literally an Anarchist, Howard Zinn and Todd Gitlin where profs, and being a straight white guy was a death sentence.
But I survived.
But complaining about PC shit is 10 times worse than PC shit.
Can't say the word faggot in public? Oh life is so haarrrddd...
Quote from: calaverasgrande on June 02, 2016, 05:35:44 AM
Can't say the word faggot in public? Oh life is so haarrrddd...
The idea that you should only complain about things that make your own life "hard" is a strange one.
The point is not that it's important to say the word faggot in public, the point is that the people who are making it so that you can't should have no power over any aspect of public discourse, because they are idiots. And they do stop people from saying a lot more important things than faggot.
In principle I do agree. I do not think that the world should be so rounded off and safe that nobody can ever be hurt or offended. That is a recipe for an even blander world than the one in which we currently reside.
OTOH the people complaining about 'out of control PC' are usually straight white guys.
There are certainly people who are discriminated against because they are black or gay or whatever. But then there are also people who you know, want to change the spelling of women to womyn, and other such semantic foolishness.
Like anything else, there is a reasonable amount of common sense, and there is a point too far.
Talking about this aspect of modern society here is almost pointless.
Industrial and experimental acts for several decades have made a lot of work around acts of transgression which are easy to misinterpret as racist, nazi, pornographic or worse. This is not a subculture which has ever been very PC or made much effort to accommodate sensibilities.
Adding to that that it's a case of having a laugh at the insanity more than being outraged. At least on my behalf. Of course commies don't like being laughed at. Haven't you read The Joke?
Quote from: calaverasgrande on June 02, 2016, 05:35:44 AM
But complaining about PC shit is 10 times worse than PC shit.
Well, going by that logic and that maths...
Quote from: calaverasgrande on June 03, 2016, 12:40:02 AM
OTOH the people complaining about 'out of control PC' are usually straight white guys.
So are most people who develop new antibiotics. I'm pretty much to the right of the Ebola epidemic politically, but the notion that opinions can be disregarded on account of the race/sexuality of those who express them is absurd - both/all ways, all day. The only people who seriously believe that you can are tiny and possibly fictional groups of neonazis, and almost all of the Left.
If transsexual black muslim Laqueesha Thanner says that 5+5=10, it is. If straight white male Copper O'Racehatigan says the same, it
still is. And while politics, values and "the humanities" are not as straight-forward as that, the same principle still applies.
Quote from: Stoa on June 03, 2016, 04:44:10 PM
Quote from: calaverasgrande on June 03, 2016, 12:40:02 AM
OTOH the people complaining about 'out of control PC' are usually straight white guys.
So are most people who develop new antibiotics. I'm pretty much to the right of the Ebola epidemic politically, but the notion that opinions can be disregarded on account of the race/sexuality of those who express them is absurd - both/all ways, all day. The only people who seriously believe that you can are tiny and possibly fictional groups of neonazis, and almost all of the Left.
If transsexual black muslim Laqueesha Thanner says that 5+5=10, it is. If straight white male Copper O'Racehatigan says the same, it still is. And while politics, values and "the humanities" are not as straight-forward as that, the same principle still applies.
Not my point at all.
I am nominally white. At least white enough to get my ass kicked for it, and not non-white enough to get affirmative action for it.
I too think it is bullshit to say anyone's opinion is valid or invalid because of their race or gender or shoe size.
It is really crude when people play the victim card about PC, as if not saying faggot or nigger is huge burden.
Not saying that we all have to use/not use certain pronouns, call heteros 'cisgender' or apologize for being white. I just think it is disingenuous when a bunch of straight white guys band together and start bitching about how they THEY are the victims here.
Last I checked, us straight white guys are running shit on this planet. We have it pretty good to be honest considering we are a slim minority of the total population of Earth.
There are a bunch of idiots running around with this new idea about 'white privilege'. They read Franz Fanon and apply what he said about French Algeria to 21st century America. Of course they probably haven't read the same books that Fanon did so they don't understand the Marxist angle at all. They just like calling liberals 'white supremacists' because it is probably the only thing a black person can say to a white person that will actually make them upset.
I bring this up because to me that is out of control PC.
When you know, a bunch of liberal whatevers try and make common cause with some working class people and do something constructive like protest Monsanto or Wall St or whatever people that drive Subarus do. Then the red army faction of the local junior college show up and rain on their parade. "You can't do this thing about income inequality until you address 400 years of opression, and Native American genocide first. I'm waiting."
ps I'm like a post marxist libertarian militia anarchist or something. I resent leftists and rightists that think they should legislate us to not have abortions OR not drink high fructose corn syrup. I think a decentralized minimal government is best with just enough teeth to keep the global mega-corps from from becoming war lords.
But then I'd love to be one of those war lords.
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/jun/04/fox-apologises-for-x-men-billboards-showing-jennifer-lawrence-being-strangled (https://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/jun/04/fox-apologises-for-x-men-billboards-showing-jennifer-lawrence-being-strangled)
there's no way rose mcgowan is quoting that kid accurately.
Quote from: aububs on June 04, 2016, 12:27:35 PM
there's no way rose mcgowan is quoting that kid accurately.
My 5 year old nephew busts out with multsylabic words all the time.
I have no problem with that part of the story at all.
But yeah, getting butthurt over a billboard depicting two obviously fictional characters is kind of silly.
I also have a hard time taking McGowan seriously when she has made a career out of stuff like Doom Generation and Planet Terror.
You know, real feminist stuff that elevates the discourse on womens knockers.
(btw I like both of those movies and have unfeminist thoughts about McGowan).
it's not so much the words, it's the phrasing.
I'm quite prepared to believe the nine-year-old daughter of "a friend" of this McGowan would say that. In fact, I'm sure the full quote was, "Dad, like, oh my god, right? Like, why is that monster committing violence against a woman? Coz, like, perpetuation of misogynist stereotypes like that just re-enforced the actual violence we women just, like, go through every day, right? Like, I am sooo tweeting about this because, like, just, oh my god, is this like the twenty first century or not?", and then her eyes just rolled right out of her head. Happens all the time.
You people are just too cynical.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-06-05/deaf-party-goers-told-too-stupid-enter-adelaide-nightclub/7479000 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-06-05/deaf-party-goers-told-too-stupid-enter-adelaide-nightclub/7479000)
QuoteMs Tanner-cornish said the group complained to police who were patrolling nearby, but were told the venue had the right to refuse entry.
Complaining to the police about not getting into a nightclub tends to prove the bouncer's point, I would have thought.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uk-I85A5-hU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uk-I85A5-hU)
Quote from: GEWALTMONOPOL on June 03, 2016, 12:48:24 PM
Adding to that that it's a case of having a laugh at the insanity more than being outraged. At least on my behalf. Of course commies don't like being laughed at. Haven't you read The Joke?
This is the main reason I look at this thread. To laugh at the absurdity of it all. I'm never actually outraged by it.
Jim Goad collected all of Muhammad Ali's best quotes:
http://takimag.com/article/the_greatest_anti_white_boxer_of_all_time_jim_goad/print#axzz4ApREq1gn
I feel bad for brock turner. He'll have to spend his entire life hated, in the shadow of what he did, all because he is inextricably bound to society. I don't condone what he did, because ultimately I wouldn't want that sort of thing to happen to me or hurt the ones I know, but I feel bad for him none the less. He's widely hated, he's already been ostracized from competing in the olympics. His one life, ruined because he obeyed his biological urges, and is immersed in a society which decides everyone's fate. Society is disgusting, I feel for anyone who's caught in it's clutches.
There is no choice, I believe. We're all part of a giant cosmic clockwork. Everything that happens can't be controlled, it's all part of the fundamental laws of physics which govern matter and time. To say that someone chose to do something is only falling pray to the illusion of consciousness. Consciousness is convoluting, it creates these paradoxes and contradictions. As I'm typing this, it's because of the forces of the universe. If I we
were to stop, just right there, and hit the enter key a few times, that would be a
you see. It makes no difference.
Anything that happens is just part of the cosmic clockwork.
Quote from: oOoOoOo on June 10, 2016, 06:07:40 PM
There is no choice, I believe. We're all part of a giant cosmic clockwork.
Yes.
I also wanted to say, I understand the strife of the rape victim. Traumatic events leave impressions on the brain which can result in flashbacks, intrusive memories, lead to drug addiction and suicide, among other things. I even frequent a feminist community or two on the internet, because I enjoy the theories of social justice. What I don't enjoy though is the vindictiveness, the feeling of self righteousness abound by the paradox of consciousness and the ego. I find that disgusting, I find that anything but total moral subjectivity is a fool's errand. To say you're the one who determines one's morality, or to say your group determines one's morality, is an arbitrary mentality. Although, I choose no pet side with any of these groups, the rapists or the feminist. I find that they're all equal, all are victims of human consciousness.
It's unfortunate when I think about it, how I would probably be banned from that feminist group for saying any of this. It's nice that they're so liberal though, I suppose I could find a forum of humanists or egalitarians, but whatever company keeps me in good company, where I generally agree with people on a lot of issues is good, I suppose it doesn't matter. It's all only a distraction to keep me from being bored.
I just made a thread about it on that forum. We'll see what happens, this should be interesting. I think I can handle this, but I hope this doesn't end up with me feeling bad lol.
Yeah it didn't go over well. Complete outrage across the board. Expecting to be banned soon, but whatever. Acceptance of a group is only an arbitrary thing.
Yep, banned. Oh well, fuck people. Worthless slugs.
Consciousness is a disease.
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/05/preacher-carrying-you-deserve-to-be-raped-sign-hit-over-the-head-by-baseball-bat-wielding-woman/
Also the 10 minute video Vice made about him is hilarious too, probably one of the most charismatic and socially skilled people I've ever seen.
Deborah Orr says that if you want a fuckbot you should get permission from two doctors first. Or just ban fuckbots because feminism.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jun/10/feminism-sex-robots-women-technology-objectify (http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jun/10/feminism-sex-robots-women-technology-objectify)
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on June 11, 2016, 04:53:31 AM
Deborah Orr says that if you want a fuckbot you should get permission from two doctors first. Or just ban fuckbots because feminism.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jun/10/feminism-sex-robots-women-technology-objectify (http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jun/10/feminism-sex-robots-women-technology-objectify)
As an object I am deeply offended by this womanifying of fellow objects.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-06-12/mein-kampf-italian-newspaper-draws-criticism-hitler-memoir/7502922 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-06-12/mein-kampf-italian-newspaper-draws-criticism-hitler-memoir/7502922)
Feminism is just one of those things. Some days I fucking despise feminism and it's annoying followers who bitch about inane shit which isn't real, or other days I feel sympathy for feminism and I even call myself a feminist. It switches, but feminists surely don't like me, especially after that last thing I said. You know, if there's one thing that's really annoying, it's the sorts of things feminists bitch about. Whether it be "rape culture" (which fyi, we're human beings and that's something that happens, because we're animals and not all animals are programmed by the law. It's sad but true), or them fucking saying men are spreading their legs on the train taking up 2 seats, to not moving out of the way on the side walk when women walk by. Sometimes they really piss me off, with the endless spew of shit they come up with to blame on guys, and stuff.
Then other days, idk. I just feel like I like feminism, maybe because they support feminine guys and transgender people. You ever seen a cute feminine guy? If you thought they were as cute as I do you'd say fuck gender norms too, you know what I mean? I guess I am all for that part of feminism, the part of it where they say that you shouldn't judge people based on their birth sex, or say that all males should be masculine and stuff. That's cool with me, and I don't really mind the whole anti rape thing, or the whole thing where they're anal about not getting hit on at all. Yeah I can see why people think feminism sucks, maybe I think feminism sucks too. It's just... I'd be alienating myself automatically from the feminists if I said I like them, because I know I'm scum in their eyes just for thinking what I think. They'll kick you from their community if you think differently. I know that I'm much more different from most people too though. I always seem to be pissing people off, always seem to be banned from forums, making people in real life feel uncomfortable around me. I like people who are nice to me and try to be my friend and be cool with me, but in general just fuck people, you know what I mean? I'm a loving, caring person to people if they try to be nice to me.
Man... I know this isn't my blog or whatever, but I just can't stand people sometimes. Not as in I hate people like I think they all suck, but I just generally don't trust people in general, you know? People in general are so drunk off their own opinion and they'll literally judge you no matter what you do. It's inescapable, you will be judged by another human being and the judgment will be so totally fucking arbitrary, and there's nothing you can do. I'm trapped in this world, and there's only one way out, and that one way out will rob me of my opportunity to love and enjoy life. I don't wanna do that, but it's sad to me, you know? I know that I've gone on for long enough, but sometimes I just don't want to stop talking. I'll leave it there.
Yeah, I agree.
Quote from: oOoOoOo on June 13, 2016, 02:55:48 AM
Man... I know this isn't my blog or whatever, but I just can't stand people sometimes. Not as in I hate people like I think they all suck, but I just generally don't trust people in general, you know? People in general are so drunk off their own opinion and they'll literally judge you no matter what you do. It's inescapable, you will be judged by another human being and the judgment will be so totally fucking arbitrary, and there's nothing you can do. I'm trapped in this world, and there's only one way out, and that one way out will rob me of my opportunity to love and enjoy life. I don't wanna do that, but it's sad to me, you know? I know that I've gone on for long enough, but sometimes I just don't want to stop talking. I'll leave it there.
Agree with most of what you said there, but I love that last bit.
I feel like it has always been more or less this way in general. But in recent years there has been a concurrent lowering of both civil discourse and literacy in general. You can blame the internet, or 500 channels of cable, or viddy games. Whatever the cause, everyone thinks they are an unstoppable badass, and their casually held opinions, and vehicular right of way, are pre-eminent. Oh yeah and all that science stuff is just a hoax. Al Gore dont want you to know about the flat earth. And god.
I've had so many people online call me a sociopath and a rape apologist and rapist on facebook and some forum in the past couple days, it's ridiculous. I told my mom my opinions on Brock Turner and she said that it's a smart idea, but I just need to learn how to word stuff so it doesn't piss people off. She says I should try to be a leader of thought, and influence other people. Jesus Christ, me, influencing other people? What? At least not everyone's an asshole though, it's easy to get caught up in that mentality. I actually feel bad when people call me a sociopath and a rapist, except when I step back and realize that they're just some people on the internet who can't even see my god damn face and don't know anything about me, it's easier to feel better.
But no, I'm a real person, with real feelings, imagine that. What's it like to know people irl who don't judge you and make you feel respected and loved? I almost wanna contact that guy from a couple years ago who was coming onto me on facebook and see if he's still into me. Except you know, adding people on facebook can be a fucking disaster, I have to be ready to have my heart torn out of my chest emotionally.
Feminists, particularly career feminists who've been around a decade or so, can't handle the fact that their ideology is popular. The university enclave is no longer sacrosanct. Now every girl in school is expected to "identify" as a feminist, if only out of peer or social pressure. It's become very mainstream and a lot of the sisterhood are having a lot of difficulty knowing how to react.
The other thing is - I don't have national and international rape statistics in front of me right now but I dare suggest the fact they still exist shows that the real serious shit like rape is still going on. Yet we are expected to give a shit about the next James Bond having tits or not. You work out the disconnect, it's pretty obvious.
As far as feminism is concerned I'm more for people like Mujeres Libres (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mujeres_Libres) or RAWA (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolutionary_Association_of_the_Women_of_Afghanistan) than, for example, Jezabel or Broadly. Once again I invite you to compare and contrast.
What I hate is smug triumphalism and the forcing of opinions onto me. If it's coming from feminists, I'm happy to sneer at it. If it's coming from misogynist fuckwits, I'll treat them the same. I'm an egalitarian that way.
I see you have Cioran quotes on your tumblr. I love Cioran. I have 3 of his books next to my bed, I pick up and read a random page of On The Heights Of Despair a lot.
To put in my worthless two cents, at this point in my life to be honest I couldn't care less about equality, rights, feminism, rape, abortion, social justice warriors, bigotry, racism, other then I find it all fascinating and thought provoking, and I enjoy seeing it. Anything that causes social unrest, disruption, or instability is good in my opinion, and since it all usually makes me laugh it's all the better. I don't really care if this sounds pompous but I have a hard time weeping for humanity when everyone is just reaping what they've sewn and mostly getting EXACTLY what they deserve, I think Lovecraft has a quote that's basically: "Rather then weep for humanity from within it's limitations I prefer to laugh at humanity from outside of it's limitations." I don't think I'm superior or above all of these issues at all, they still affect me, but ultimately they actually don't really. I'm too focused on trying to achieve my personal/professional goals and just trying to FUCKING SURVIVE AND EAT every day, and besides, all is vanity anyway.
God fuck all this controversy. I've had trouble sleeping for the past couple nights, really shotty sleep where I keep waking up because it's so shallow. Sick of all the controversy. I need to stop arguing with people on different forums too. I got this one atheist forum with a bunch of people convinced that I'm a serial killer just because I'm saying morality is arbitrary and sometimes I cheer for serial killers and rapists. Gaaah fucking.... morons isn't a heavy enough word. Retarded seems a bit more precise.
Doesn't mean I'm happy that people die or don't care about victims or whatever, I just see the universe as ultimately indifferent and I can have sympathy for people who commit crimes. Why not? It's not like I'm condoning them or something. Sometimes it's just fun to see how far people can go before they get away with what they do. I feel bad for both the rape victims and the rapist, because ultimately they signed a social contract they never asked to sign, which is basically to be part of society as a whole. That's not to say that rapists suffer more than rape victims, maybe they do, maybe they don't. Maybe the rapist suffered rape as a child, which normalized raping other people in his or her head, or maybe he simply doesn't have the conscience to care about morality. All of those things are immaterial to me, it's just the way of the universe. I am allowed to make up how I see the universe, because ultimately the universe is absurd anyways and there's no ultimate right and wrong.
Like fuck, do I even have to go on any further? I'm fucking sick of trying to explain this to people. If people are too dumb to get my point of view and want to say "ohhhh this guy should have the fuck beaten out of him and restrained before he hurts someone" when I never said anything about hurting anyone and they have no reason to even believe that I am a sociopath or a psychopath... then fuck them. They're morons and they should seriously fuck off.
Everyone wants to have a clear cut good guy and bad guy, but the universe is more complex than their dumb shit minds can handle. There's no happy ending, there's no easy answers, the universe wasn't put here so you can fucking feel good about being a righteous pig.
And now I'm banned from the atheist forum too. There's hardly a forum I go to that I don't get banned from. I hope the worst to them in their lives, I hope they suffer, because they're stupid and worthless.
Reason for being banned "Posts purposely provocative things to get a rise". They should go fucking die.
I'd probably say that deep down I actually am a PC person in a way. I honestly believe that regardless of whether people are literally equal or not, they should not be given or denied rights based on anything other than whether they draw breath and metabolize.
I've been friends with people of pretty much every type over the years. Black white brown, gay, straight, both, neither etc. I really don't care about identity shit until, for example, someone starts beating up the guy next to me because he is brown and they are a nazi or something. It's just really uncalled for, and nobody likes to get blood on their clothes. (least of all nazi skinheads they are such vain bitches).
But then I have just gotten so jaded by the constant intractability of bigotry that I've long since retreated to an absurdist response.
I refuse to take fag bashers and racist nazis seriously. This actually pisses off a lot of people. They want to have a shouty 'discussion' about violence against whomtever. I want to sing a parody of a pop song with cursewords for the lyrics.
I agree that modern feminists and quite a lot of racial activists are pretty full of shit. They missed the boat on agitating against injustice, so they want to create some great big stink because, Scarlett Johanson is going to play a white character in an adaptation of a Japanese Anime/Mange instead of an Asian woman playing that white character.
I think a lot of these people to need to read more Voltaire. There is that one story about the people on the ship who all have a petty thing to complain about. And they do all have their travails. Nobody gets out alive, and everyone gets ground down a bit. The key is are you just going to complain or get off your ass?
Hate is probably responsible for a huge majority of everything wrong in the world.
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jun/14/latino-hispanic-orlando-shooting-victims (http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jun/14/latino-hispanic-orlando-shooting-victims)
In the words of the late, great Jimmy Durante - "everybody's gotta get into the act".
Quote from: oOoOoOo on June 15, 2016, 03:39:35 AM
Hate is probably responsible for a huge majority of everything wrong in the world.
I genuinely believe that human nature is malign.
Everyone acts in their self interest, and thinks they are on the 'good side'.
The Soviets thought they were the good guys, and the NATO pact thought they were the good guys. And many people suffered and died.
I think that viewed on a non individual scale, people are just a bunch of greedy grabbing fuckers. Kind of like any other creature in the animal kingdom really, but clever enough to be devious.
People talk about human nature as if it means the inevitable triumph of good over evil. They are buying into a false dichotomy and contributing to the problem. Believing that good will prevail just ...because it is good. It means postponing being proactive about bullshit you could be correcting, now.
But then you are back to what is right, and that really is a matter of opinion.
Quote from: calaverasgrande on June 15, 2016, 06:32:03 AM
Quote from: oOoOoOo on June 15, 2016, 03:39:35 AM
Hate is probably responsible for a huge majority of everything wrong in the world.
I genuinely believe that human nature is malign.
Everyone acts in their self interest, and thinks they are on the 'good side'.
The Soviets thought they were the good guys, and the NATO pact thought they were the good guys. And many people suffered and died.
I think that viewed on a non individual scale, people are just a bunch of greedy grabbing fuckers. Kind of like any other creature in the animal kingdom really, but clever enough to be devious.
People talk about human nature as if it means the inevitable triumph of good over evil. They are buying into a false dichotomy and contributing to the problem. Believing that good will prevail just ...because it is good. It means postponing being proactive about bullshit you could be correcting, now.
But then you are back to what is right, and that really is a matter of opinion.
Yes, I believe the good and bad dichotomy is ultimately what is screwing over human kind in terms of it's relationship with other human beings. First of all, human beings aren't even smart enough in the first place to realize what is best for ourselves, yet we have these moral codes. Second, the good and bad dichotomy is horrible, because human beings are ultimately very ignorant creatures. We're ignorant of each other, and when people are ignorant of something, they become angry at it and ultimately end up seeing it as an enemy. That's probably just some animal instinct, to see other things as a thread, which I suppose makes sense because the natural animal kingdom is a vicious place. No doubt an animal that wasn't evolved in those circumstances could adapt a passive and peaceful way of behavior. If you look at the good and bad dichotomy, even people like the Oregon shooter, you realize that he was raised in an extremely homophobic religious house hold, it's obvious that the hatred he bottled up towards himself because of his wife he was probably unfaithful to because he was gay, frequenting the gay night club, and his religious parents, ultimately boiled over in a sea of hatred. You see the pattern? Unjustified by any system of law, but there was a reason. This is what disturbs me so much about the human race. Even people who claim to be the good guys are self righteous pigs, and I believe if you are a self righteous pig you are by no means a good guy.
I think the amazing atheist said it much better than I could have. He's vehemently anti radical feminist, but also very liberal and in my opinion balanced and insightful on human rights perspectives. This is his video about what he thinks about the rapist Brock Turner and the response from people to the issue https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMAKkUO-HnA
He summed it up so much better than I could have. I agree with him 100% and it makes me feel confirmed that my point of view was indeed the most compassionate point of view the whole time. The criminal justice system in america is based on vengeance, not rehabilitation. This attitude is represented in through the reaction of the public, where the only thing the public reacts to is a sentence that is "too lenient" in lieu of overly harsh sentencing and a justice system that doesn't even care about rehabilitation, only concerned with punishment and retribution. Compassionately, I agree with the amazing atheist, I hope the rape victim can move on, and I hope the best for Brock Turner too. How can you claim to be the compassionate one, when you only show compassion for one camp? People who berate Brock Turner are no better than hitler, and they're certainly no better than rapists themselves.
I'd even go as far as saying the rape victim herself is no better than the rapist.
Quote from: oOoOoOo on June 15, 2016, 05:19:52 PM
Compassionately, I agree with the amazing atheist, I hope the rape victim can move on, and I hope the best for Brock Turner too. How can you claim to be the compassionate one, when you only show compassion for one camp? People who berate Brock Turner are no better than hitler, and they're certainly no better than rapists themselves.
I'd even go as far as saying the rape victim herself is no better than the rapist.
Sounds like you need to look up the word 'compassion' if that's what you're trying to get across in that rant... Didn't think it was possible but your defence of that scumbag comes across as some hideous mishmash of the worst rantings of the 'men's rights' dweebs and the ultra liberal pansies that perceive every possible individual as a victim. Guess I'm worse than Hitler eh!
Quote from: oOoOoOo on June 15, 2016, 05:19:52 PM
. The criminal justice system in america is based on vengeance, not rehabilitation.
.jails are built also for punishment and it is common sense that rehab is possible only with specific form if inmates. there are criminal types that will never change since their culture/education/background is compeletely fucked up and only 1 out of 1000 would fit in society again.
would you rehabilitate somebody who slaughtered your family for getting money for crack? would you rehabilitate corrupt bankers involved in major economical crimes (Soros anyone?), would you rehabilitate somebody who sold heroin to your cousin who overdosed? add an example etc.
surely jail situation can be improved and there are many "crimes" that cannot be considered as such (list is long) that should be managed without locking people up, but many inmates are paying for shit they are responsible for, and I am quite sure they are conscious about that.
jail is shit, but there are many ways to avoid it, like for example, avoiding useless troubles, control your greed, etc.
Quote from: oOoOoOo on June 15, 2016, 07:03:00 AM
Yes, I believe the good and bad dichotomy is ultimately what is screwing over human kind in terms of it's relationship with other human beings. First of all, human beings aren't even smart enough in the first place to realize what is best for ourselves, yet we have these moral codes.
It's pretty safe to assume that even the most primitive moral code is vastly superior to winging it. There's a lot of aggression towards Islam these days, perhaps rightly so, but so far as we know Islam was still an enormous improvement on the pre-islamic Arab culture in most respects, treatment of women included (which is not to say that today it's an improvement on, say, Orlando's club scene). And while I'm all for romanticizing Roman and otherwise pre-Christian culture, Christianity did reduce the tendency of Westerners to rape, beat and generally butcher virtual armies of slaves and subordinates. In fact, while certain abstract moral and political systems - egalitarianism and Communism being two of the most obvious ones - lead to absolute shit, because they are absolute shit, many of them have been immensely beneficial to mankind on both an individual and a collective level.
Especially systems which are based on the "good and bad dichotomy" on a personal plane, as opposed to just a set of externally enforced rules.
There is also a quite obvious problem with the claim that "saying that certain things are right or wrong is wrong".
People may be assholes, but under the right circumstances the vast majority of them have a tremendous capacity for controlling that and many other unpleasant features of themselves. Consider: almost all men are in situations where they would be able to, or even inclined to, rape, severely hurt or even kill other people thousands of times in their lives, yet most never do it. Furthermore there are lots of people who aren't particularly self-righteous or piggish. Don't get me wrong, I'm hardly a humanitarian, and I loathe almost all opinions of almost all people. But one shouldn't exaggerate, and especially not condemn mankind for its failure to live up to whatever ideal one has happened to inherit from silly French 18th century thinkers, even sillier 60s radicals or outright shitty rock/punk lyrics.
QuoteAnd while I'm all for romanticizing Roman and otherwise pre-Christian culture, Christianity did reduce the tendency of Westerners to rape, beat and generally butcher virtual armies of slaves and subordinates.
Um, what? Seriously? Come on now...
I've had this conversation with so many people already and pretty much everyone doesn't get what I'm saying. Basically, yes I get that there needs to be some sort of moral code to keep other people from hurting each other. That doesn't mean it's fundamentally right that some people should have control over another. Sure, by that logic it's wrong to be a criminal, but it goes both ways. In my perfect world, we'd just be thoughts floating around, in a vast sea, with all the rights to be free and not control other people, or whatever. Do you get what I'm saying right now?
Plus, there's always a story, someone has a story regardless of who they are. It could just be the state of mind they were in that day, or it could be that they became a rapist because they were raped as a child. We don't know, regardless of the fact that there's no standard of measuring the amount of suffering that someone can go through. So basically, a rapist could technically have suffered more than a rape victim, except it's irrelevant because there's no standard for measuring suffering, and since it's such an arbitrary tool of measurement you can't use that to indict or venerate rapists.
I just call for a broader point of view, I'm not saying anything about "in my society". I'm not a politician dude, I'm just here to evaluate the situation and offer some perspective, because in my opinion this society desperately needs some base line objective perspectives like this. I'm not saying that you all necessarily have to hear this, I but I just want to be clear about this. I know that this is a hot subject and everyone on earth who actually gives a shit about whether or not it's wrong to rape someone has something to say about it. I'm just trying to get my opinion across, but it's really difficult.
It's difficult, even though - well, I say that but I'm usually pretty cocky about my ability to write. That is one of my flaws, I suppose, is that I often don't weigh whether or not I'm saying things in a tactful way. I think that I am being pretty level headed in the discussion on this forum and I feel comfortable posting here, you all seem pretty reasonable. However, there's a lot of times when I post something and I don't add the tact, because I want to have a big victory, I want to say things in the most blunt way possible and then nail down the point like a fucking kung fu artist or something. It comes from so many years of being in debates, and spreading my opinion like it was some sort of fucking std. I rile people up. Not on purpose, but to be honest I've found over the years, one of the things that tires me out most is trying to figure out how I can say things so it doesn't make people upset. So, I often come off like I am trying to make people upset when I am just not concerned about whether I come off as if I am trying to upset people or not. And when you're online there's no way to tell anyways, but it's got me into some shit. I keep getting banned from forums and I get ostracized from people in real life from the shit I've posted, but let me just be clear about one thing; I feel like I have some points and I am not trying to fuck with anyone; if I did then maybe I am and in some fucked up psychological way I don't even know it, but fucking hell man. You know what I mean?
I'm sorry if you actually had to read all that that I just wrote, but god fucking damn. I've been going through so much hell the past couple days just trying to argue these points.
And yeah that last bit was very off the cuff, it applies more to me than it does the topic at hand.
Rape is apart of human animal nature, it's never going away, there's nothing anyone can do about it, to me it's similar to arguing over trying to stop murder or killing. It's never going to happen, it will never change, modern people seem to have a hard time dealing with that? Humans can't even accept themselves for their own animal urges let alone the world they live in. All the other factors, all the social and socio-economic, gender/racial issues are never going to change either and it's only going to get worse, way worse is my prediction. Until people in the West drastically change how they think, how they live, how they relate with each other, it's static and unchanging. And people are never going to do that since as far as they're concerned they're living in a egalitarian information based golden age with all their distractions, gadgets, and online battles to fight.
The ideals that came out of the Enlightenment and from the French Revolution are failing and are a joke, modern World Trade relies on a sci-fi dystopia level of class warfare and criminal economic exploitation (leading to a whole host of other problems) to sustain itself while maintaining a sociopathic facade of humanitarianism and free market capitalism(kind of like the health care/insurance system in the US), politics are nothing more then a puppet show for privatized interests and ultimately this system of neoliberalism and secular humanism is going to be the death of a lot of us it seems like, either directly or indirectly here in the coming days.
If you can't do the time, don't do the crime.
Alternatively, don't get caught.
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and if you get caught, don't complain, stick with those of your kind, don't grass, respect those like you, and hope time runs quick.
Here goes a TL;DR
Apart from PERHAPS the first paragraph, it is not meant to be seen as an attack on anything you may or may not believe in, since I have no clear idea of your opinions.
Quote from: Fluid Fetish on June 16, 2016, 01:39:08 AM
QuoteAnd while I'm all for romanticizing Roman and otherwise pre-Christian culture, Christianity did reduce the tendency of Westerners to rape, beat and generally butcher virtual armies of slaves and subordinates.
Um, what? Seriously? Come on now...
I was referring to the Roman games, mine slavery, gladiator games and so on. This was all very cool, but it also meant a bizarre cult of violence and humiliation that I frankly can't really defend. Even though it doesn't really correspond to any personal emotional needs, I think that to deny the massive beneficial effects of Christianity on Western culture is... Well, childish. And I did it myself for a decade, which is why I'm an asshole about it rather than make a cogent argument. I'm not sure where you're coming from with your "seriously", though. If it's about how Christian Whitey enslaved the world and are the worst people ever, I'm not even having the conversation. I am not interested in discussing how the White Monsters came to ruin loving, peaceful and harmonic societies using racism and penicillin. It is a view that requires a view of history so selective that it's not really a view of history at all. Virtually, nay literally, everything the "postcolonial" philosophers of the Left believe in is solely a product of Western culture, and completely unimaginable in any other cultural context. The whole idea of collective self-criticism is almost absent from any other historic civilization or culture - a generalization which is pretty much accurate even if you scratch "historic".
If it's about how Rome was actually great, it's a bit more interesting (and also something I partly agree with, despite what I said above).
As for your second post I just have a few remarks on the issue of the impending doom of the global system:
Things are almost certainly not going to fall apart in some refreshing reboot of the world. Consumer capitalism and liberal "democracy" are extremely sturdy systems, which can survive a lot. People sometimes forget that there are places in South America and Africa, where things are now shittier than they are likely to become in Western Europe and the US even after quite serious disasters. Usually, people don't even care to replace their local incompetent leaders, let alone the political system in place (until a major geopolitical player or two begins fomenting the "revolution", of course, but we've seen where that lands us with the "Arab Spring"). If this is to go away, it will have to be removed by people who want it gone.
However, most alternatives today seem unrealistic or even undesirable. Under capitalism, I can at least opt out of most stupid shit (albeit with massive work), and get a decent payoff from rather limited labour. If Bernie 2.0. and the Equal Solidarity Squat takes over, that would probably not be the case. I think lines of thinking similar to this make most people feel that liberal capitalism is the second best thing, right after their ideal, which means that most people stick with it. Some, like most of the Left, even embrace it with gusto, spending their time "fighting outdated ideas" by supporting censorship of "enemies" they have in common with the system, while also defending and supporting the Federal government of the US, the European Union, the UN and basically any bastions of the present power hierarchy they can find (though "really" they'd like an egalitarian fucktopia where everyone just smokes weed and is, like, an individual, dude). Either way, most people will opt to keep things as they are simply because they dislike all radical options except their own. Which ain't about to be realized.
Granted, places like Hungary are making some pretty massive shifts "to the Right", while places like Spain and Greece are moving "to the Left" through Podemos and Syriza, but they are all WELL within the confines of what can be accepted (albeit grudgingly) by the present global system. None have the first clue about how to tackle, for example, the all encompassing consumerist slavery which is one of the most bizarre and unpleasant features of this system. In a way, it is impressive: it used to be that you actually needed poverty, to get people to produce and hence keep the economy moving. Now poverty is a useless remnant as a motivator, used only in backward nations, and a bug more than a feature. People who live materially fulfilled lives, are still completely awash in anxiety and addiction to keep adding shit to their pile of shit. Which keeps them obedient, since really there is no serious alternative which could be expected to keep yielding all this stuff. It's pretty absurd, but these are chains that are extremely difficult to break.
The poor world has even less of an interest in abandoning global liberalism, which becomes glaringly obvious once one stops reading Naomi Klein and actually looks at some numbers. In large swathes of the globe, the "free market" and sort-of democratic structures still produce
vastly improved living conditions (the most obvious being the shift away from the constant threat of starvation) for massive amounts of people. Over a billion people have left poverty and benefited from the post-Cold War liberal order in the past ten or twenty years, and many if not most of them now completely share the average Westerner's interests in mobile phones and phony causes. This is very much likely to continue, unless it is halted by population explosion (as may happen in Africa), or some kind of global war (which is extremely unlikely, even though it is very popular to pretend otherwise to keep us on our toes). The fact that the West is losing some of its influence may have radical consequences in time, for instance countries which can rely on China for their trade are even less likely to give a flying fuck about Western ideas about "LGBT rights" or "human rights" at all than they were as US client states. However, if "we" can sell them enough Coke and show them enough gripping Hollywood dramas, then it's perfectly possible that enough of them will imitate the consumerist lifestyle, reach middle class status, and keep the dregs in order. I think you exaggerate the level of "class warfare" involved in all of this. It might be that the bizarre combination of Leftist utopians and neoliberal psychopaths that make up the Western establishment may create some absolute disaster in Western Europe and the US, which may then transform the global system in some fashion. The former's love of immigration for "humanitarian reasons" in tandem with the latter's love for the same due to its potential to undermine unions, dump salaries and procure brown people to do their dishes for them has created a mighty fine mess in the past twenty years or so, and perhaps these geniuses have other awesome ideas on how to make society more free, equal and brotherly. All in all, however, I think people will take virtually anything as long as they are kept reasonably safe, and unreasonably addicted to their stuff.
If it is not clear, these are not words of triumphant gloating, but rather depressed resignation. I agree fully that
QuoteThe ideals that came out of the Enlightenment and from the French Revolution are [..] are a joke.
But they aren't failing.
Well, to clarify at least somewhat, I'm definitely not asserting anything related to White guilt or that Christianity is entirely detrimental or beneficial, that's all subjective (if that's the right term?) and relative and not what I meant.
What I will say though is Christianity definitely did NOT reduce Western tendencies to rape, enslave, and butcher people only HOW these things were executed. Slavery and gladiatorial games were just apart of the whole bread and circuses thing, but even Jesus predicted that the outcome of his teachings would be bloodshed (Matthew 10:34). I find it odd that after looking at a history full of crusades, holy wars, enslavement, corruption, torture, sexual depravity and more that anyone could say that Christianity was a step forward in humanitariansim compared to something like Rome? Westerners are just as depraved after Christianity if not more so due to a vast array of reasons that I could type forever about here that relate to modernity. I'm not doubting that there were beneifical aspects to Christianity but to say that it reduced tendencies that existed before it's popularity I DEFINITELY disagree with.
Never said there was going to be a refreshing reboot to the world. I don't believe that just because people are complacent that things are going to stay stable because they want it to, especially since humanity cannot live in balance with itself nor it's ecosystem. Perhaps I misunderstood you?
That complacency and acceptance, this social unrest and instability that is largely within the safe perimeters of society is going to keep getting more and more intense as the world get's worse and worse I guess is what I'm theorizing.
Strongly disagree that free market capitalism is causing "vastly" improving living conditions across the world. Free market capitalism is an illusion anyway, if free market capitalism exists then why do less then six companies control ALL mass media in the world? I don't mean to sound like I'm preaching, as that's not my intention at all, but that is absurd. There are parts of Philadelphia and Baltimore currently that have a higher infant mortality rate then Syria and North Korea. Water purity and contamination issues are prominent. WAY more then half the United States population currently lives beneath the poverty line, has no savings, and is at constant serious risk of homelessness, the life expectancy rate in the U.S. recently dropped, jobs are impossible to find etc. The IMF purposely taxes African and other third world countries three to four times the amount other countries are charged in order to keep them at third world status. This distribution of wealth (which is more uneven then it was in Medieval Europe under manorialism), this enormous funneling of wealth to the corporate ruling class with NO economic growth, the dismantling of unions, healthcare literally costs a fortune and the west has the most corrupt health insurance system in the world (I just got ripped off for over 650$ that I'll NEVER get back this year from my healthcare provider in fact), the declining availability of employment/benefits/job security is DEFINITELY not exageratting the state of class warfare, at least speaking for the United States and having lived here my whole life. These are ALL things that ANYONE who lives in the United States knows, this to me says that the quality of life is doing the exact OPPOSITE of 'vastly improving', and living here I can tell you firsthand.
I'm not complaining or whining, nor do I have an agenda or stance on these matters other then to be honest I hope they get worse, but these are just simple facts of life in the West, or at least the United States speaking for myself on some of the prior examples.
Also I think there is confusion, I don't mean social/political neoliberalism but instead economic neo-liberalism or I think it's also known as free market fundamentalism or something. This: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoliberalism
I don't see how anyone could assert or believe that the ideals that came from the thinkers of the Enlightenment aren't failing given these circumstances.
Quote from: Fluid Fetish on June 17, 2016, 04:22:14 AM
That complacency and acceptance, this social unrest and instability that is largely within the safe perimeters of society is going to keep getting more and more intense as the world get's worse and worse I guess is what I'm theorizing.
Strongly disagree that free market capitalism is causing "vastly" improving living conditions across the world. Free market capitalism is an illusion anyway, if free market capitalism exists then why do less then six companies control ALL mass media in the world? I don't mean to sound like I'm preaching, as that's not my intention at all, but that is absurd. There are parts of Philadelphia and Baltimore currently that have a higher infant mortality rate then Syria and North Korea. Water purity and contamination issues are prominent. WAY more then half the United States population currently lives beneath the poverty line, has no savings, and is at constant serious risk of homelessness, the life expectancy rate in the U.S. recently dropped, jobs are impossible to find etc.
This could spiral beyond all control. To illustrate my point about massive benefits for poor countries:
https://ourworldindata.org/life-expectancy/
https://ourworldindata.org/literacy/
https://ourworldindata.org/infant-mortality/
That doesn't mean certain things aren't getting shittier for certain people. If I were you I would worry far more for the future of the working and middle classes in Europe and the US, since there are indeed signs that they may see their lives severely shittified in the coming years (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/20/health/life-expectancy-decline-mortality.html , for starters, other examples may be a little too obvious). I should also clarify that when I speak of "free market capitalism" I am not referring to some idealized model, I just mean the economic system as it stands, including the grotesque media monopolies, American and/or Chinese meddling, IMF manipulations and the whole shebang. For "the poorest people in the world" it is a fucking awesome system, far superior to any they've tried before, at least as far as material quality of life goes. Granted, technological developments may (or perhaps almost certainly are) more important than the precise economic and political system - Communist China with antibiotics, modern hygiene and modern statistical methods would of course beat any liberal democracy that lacked these things. Still, as the system stands it isn't the maelstrom of racist exploitation the Left makes it out to be. It may be partly absolute crap - I think it is - but not mainly for the reasons you state.
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I don't see how anyone could assert or believe that the ideals that came from the thinkers of the Enlightenment aren't failing given these circumstances.
They are certainly failing certain people, and they are largely stupid. But they aren't "failing" in the sense that they seem to be going anywhere any time soon.
Eating cake is cruel http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3643370/Activists-accuse-mother-two-cruelty-started-baking-cakes-look-like-real-animals.html
Quote from: Stoa on June 17, 2016, 09:50:18 PM
Quote from: Fluid Fetish on June 17, 2016, 04:22:14 AM
That complacency and acceptance, this social unrest and instability that is largely within the safe perimeters of society is going to keep getting more and more intense as the world get's worse and worse I guess is what I'm theorizing.
Strongly disagree that free market capitalism is causing "vastly" improving living conditions across the world. Free market capitalism is an illusion anyway, if free market capitalism exists then why do less then six companies control ALL mass media in the world? I don't mean to sound like I'm preaching, as that's not my intention at all, but that is absurd. There are parts of Philadelphia and Baltimore currently that have a higher infant mortality rate then Syria and North Korea. Water purity and contamination issues are prominent. WAY more then half the United States population currently lives beneath the poverty line, has no savings, and is at constant serious risk of homelessness, the life expectancy rate in the U.S. recently dropped, jobs are impossible to find etc.
Ah ok, I
This could spiral beyond all control. To illustrate my point about massive benefits for poor countries:
https://ourworldindata.org/life-expectancy/
https://ourworldindata.org/literacy/
https://ourworldindata.org/infant-mortality/
That doesn't mean certain things aren't getting shittier for certain people. If I were you I would worry far more for the future of the working and middle classes in Europe and the US, since there are indeed signs that they may see their lives severely shittified in the coming years (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/20/health/life-expectancy-decline-mortality.html , for starters, other examples may be a little too obvious). I should also clarify that when I speak of "free market capitalism" I am not referring to some idealized model, I just mean the economic system as it stands, including the grotesque media monopolies, American and/or Chinese meddling, IMF manipulations and the whole shebang. For "the poorest people in the world" it is a fucking awesome system, far superior to any they've tried before, at least as far as material quality of life goes. Granted, technological developments may (or perhaps almost certainly are) more important than the precise economic and political system - Communist China with antibiotics, modern hygiene and modern statistical methods would of course beat any liberal democracy that lacked these things. Still, as the system stands it isn't the maelstrom of racist exploitation the Left makes it out to be. It may be partly absolute crap - I think it is - but not mainly for the reasons you state.
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I don't see how anyone could assert or believe that the ideals that came from the thinkers of the Enlightenment aren't failing given these circumstances.
They are certainly failing certain people, and they are largely stupid. But they aren't "failing" in the sense that they seem to be going anywhere any time soon.
Wait, wasn't everything I said in relation to the working and the middle classes in the USA and Europe? Fret not either way as I have plenty to worry about anyway haha. The overall global life expectancy and quality of life statistically as you pointed out has risen, but I don't think that's exactly the result of globalization necessarily although it certainly does contribute I'll agree. A large part of the reason life expectancy has increased in the modern era for poor people at least are factors such as vastly improved nutrition in food compared to say the quality of food during the Roman empire, although once again I'm not denying that globalization and capitalism has been a factor in this too such as the dramatic increase in medical technologies/practices etc to use one obvious example.
This causing a subsequent decrease in the quality of life in the first world with no economic gain for the middle and lower classes while still causing rampant global poverty and other issues to you are not reasons to call this system ' partly absolute crap' (kind of confused what that even means to be honest)? I suppose it's a matter of opinion but I'd like to wonder reasons you DO have then?
And by saying these ideals aren't going anywhere any time soon? That's not what I was saying at all, just that they are failing and are illusory, just like neo-liberalism is actually a facade for corporate imperialism and class warfare, I didn't say this would be going away completely any time soon....although I believe and it seems like a lot of scientists and intellectuals seem to believe that some MAJOR changes are coming around the corner. So I think you're somewhat wrong in saying this isn't going anywhere any time soon....going somewhere maybe not, but changing and shifting for the worse seems very likely.
I hate religion so much.
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Quote from: oOoOoOo on June 15, 2016, 05:19:52 PM
. The criminal justice system in america is based on vengeance, not rehabilitation.
.jails are built also for punishment and it is common sense that rehab is possible only with specific form if inmates. there are criminal types that will never change since their culture/education/background is compeletely fucked up and only 1 out of 1000 would fit in society again.
would you rehabilitate somebody who slaughtered your family for getting money for crack? would you rehabilitate corrupt bankers involved in major economical crimes (Soros anyone?), would you rehabilitate somebody who sold heroin to your cousin who overdosed? add an example etc.
surely jail situation can be improved and there are many "crimes" that cannot be considered as such (list is long) that should be managed without locking people up, but many inmates are paying for shit they are responsible for, and I am quite sure they are conscious about that.
jail is shit, but there are many ways to avoid it, like for example, avoiding useless troubles, control your greed, etc.
The problem with prison is twofold.
It is intended to be a deterrent. Harsh sentences for violent and drug related offenses for example are supposed to scare people away from committing those crimes. Except they do not.
Then of course there is also that prisons do nothing to rehab inmates. They do the opposite, they introduce convicts to a subculture of crime. I personally know people who went away for a short amount of time and came back pill addicted gang bangers. Often indoctrinated into some ignorant racialist tribalism 'to survive'.
As far as 'would I want a criminal to be rehabbed if they did such and such to my family'. That is a pathetic attempt to push the debate into an emotional space. Where things can not be considered objectively and violent crimes should be reacted to with blood vengeance.
Look if someone molested my 5 year old nephew. I would probably stalk and murder them. Likewise if they raped either of my sisters. I am a man from the south that owns guns. There are certain cultural things that are hard to erase in that regard.
But I also have had very close friends killed by junkies and serial killers.
You might think that I would wish violence upon them, but I recognize that they are symptoms of a sick society we live in.
Beating the shit out of those people will not magically resurrect my dead friend. Or in the case of the serial killer, a friend her daughter and the daughters friend as well as the family dogs. (for some reason that last detail pisses me off the most).
It may sound macho, cool and Rand-ian to talk about vigilantism. "Crime won't exist if we have strong men with guns patrolling the street". But it just means a devolution into mob rule and lynching.
One again it is easy to see problems, hard to offer answers.
Quote from: Fluid Fetish on June 18, 2016, 12:55:34 AM
This causing a subsequent decrease in the quality of life in the first world with no economic gain for the middle and lower classes while still causing rampant global poverty and other issues to you are not reasons to call this system ' partly absolute crap' (kind of confused what that even means to be honest)? I suppose it's a matter of opinion but I'd like to wonder reasons you DO have then?
And by saying these ideals aren't going anywhere any time soon? That's not what I was saying at all, just that they are failing and are illusory, just like neo-liberalism is actually a facade for corporate imperialism and class warfare, I didn't say this would be going away completely any time soon....although I believe and it seems like a lot of scientists and intellectuals seem to believe that some MAJOR changes are coming around the corner. So I think you're somewhat wrong in saying this isn't going anywhere any time soon....going somewhere maybe not, but changing and shifting for the worse seems very likely.
I object to the notion that it is causing "rampant global poverty", as my previous post indicated. It's not like Africa or India have ever been (materially) better off than they are right now. For someone who is adamant that "rape is a part of human nature", you seem strangely unfamiliar with the equally obvious notion that poverty and inequality are also part of human nature, and perhaps also more functional than rape.
In the end this would actually be two discussions: the viability of the system and the desirability of the system. I believe these should be separated entirely, since they are very different things. Once again, people seem to forget that human beings have tolerated, or been forced to tolerate, conditions far worse than the very worst which now exist (statistically/collectively that is - obviously on an individual level these things mean fuck-all, since you can feel like two tons of death-poop regardless of your life expectancy or economic status). Since human beings are built to tolerate far more desperate conditions, there is nothing to indicate that things will become so awful that "the People" will react and do anything at all, at least not in a mechanistic fashion. Of course there may come an unstumpable Trump that just fucks shit up and makes everything comparatively awesome, but that takes will, and usually the status quo will tend to win.
Some things, such as "income disparity", are utterly and completely fucking irrelevant until they are made relevant by someone utilizing them to further a specific political cause. Other things, such as people of different colour/religion/language beating each other up in the street or just plain being uncomfortable around each other, are more "facts of life" which are prior to political interpretation. But perhaps they are not as readily translatable into sound policy as some of the far right crowd may believe. I feel a bit like this entire discussion could expand beyond all reason, so unless you'd like to focus it on a particular topic, I think I may withdraw.
I could add that in the end, a "regression" to sovereign nation states fundamentally representative of their inhabitants, or at least a number of mutually balanced, sovereign superstates (US - Europe - China - Russia - India, perhaps?) is probably the most desirable option if we want to avoid the "sci-fi dystopia" you alluded to earlier. A global state with common "values" and common jurisdiction should be viewed with absolute horror by all even remotely decent human beings. Either way, no arrangement will eradicate war, rape, poverty and misery (then again, nothing would), but at least the famed "multipolarity" or "world of many flags" could potentially end the march towards global totalitarianism, which felt like a distinct possibility just ten years ago or so. And perhaps sovereign entities which have some connection to their inhabitants could actually forge diplomatic ties between each other which at least kept the butchery to a minimum? This may be utopian, but it is a hell of a lot less utopian than the notion that various "rights" and ideals should be enforced on the whole world by some global entity. About which you have said nothing, but my tendency to drink in front of the computer has turned this into yet another OT rant.
Sheesh, I love ya Stoa but I don't have enough free time to keep going with these OT rants here haha. Historically there have been very prosperous and powerful kingdoms in Africa that were some of the most powerful ancient civilizations in history so to say that Africa has never been any better then it is now isn't true. To claim that I seem oddly unfamiliar with the fact that poverty and inequality are apart of human nature doesn't make any sense to me either as I never denied this or made any claims otherwise?
I never said that the people would react or do anything at all in a specific way, merely that the unrest, disorder, and upheavel and tensions would continue to intensify and worsen as time continued (theorizing). People will hate eachother, exploit each other, and so on regardless of political circumstances, I just think that in my opinion these declining conditions and intensifying problems in the West are supplementing and encouraging them in an unprecedented way, since Western civilization is global. I don't think we're headed towards a sci-fi dystopia level conditions, in some ways we are ALREADY THERE, like with the healthcare system in the U.S. was my main example from my personal experience..
Anyways, I'll stop causing the derailing of this thread, good discussing this with you and I appreciate actually being able to have a mature and intelligent discussion with someone on a forum for a change even if we don't agree or are looking at things differently. I'm usually typing quickly between doing other tasks so I don't have the proper time to probably get super indepth or even very clear about a lot of this stuff, and as you said we could go on forever here.
Not trying to wrap things up all neatly here but I have no agenda or am trying to push my views or anything on anyone, just discussing some theories/experiences/ideas, I have no loyalty to left/right/whatever nor does my heart bleed over the things we mentioned earlier as primarily the whole thing just fascinates me, which supercedes anything as far as my personal perceptions go or which ever.
Islamist storms record shop during Radiohead release party. Is the last CD that bad?
http://www.huffingtonpost.it/2016/06/18/aggressione-istanbul-radi_n_10545756.html?ncid=fcbklnkithpmg00000001
that is some ignorant shit there.
For example, do you think all of the mega-temple complexes in India were built during a period of economic stagnation?
India has had many prosperous epochs. The emperor Ashoka for example ruled over a large part of India, had vassals in neighboring countries and is largely responsible for the spread of Buddhism to countries in SE Asia.
Africa also has had many advanced, economically well off empires. Even when there weren't any white guys to show them how!
Egypt is in Africa you know. So is Tunis and Algeria. So was Carthage. It's not all just mud huts and zebras.
Both of those places were doing stuff like alphabets and math and chemistry when Northern Europeans were living in thatched huts with their livestock. Covered in fleas and excrement.
I say this as a nominally northern European guy myself. In the long lens of history we have mostly been shit streaked barbarians. Which I kind of think is funny.
Quote from: calaverasgrande on June 19, 2016, 10:55:43 PM
It's not all just mud huts and zebras.
True. There's famine, corruption, poverty, genocide and epidemics as well.
Quote from: calaverasgrande on June 19, 2016, 10:55:43 PM
that is some ignorant shit there.
For example, do you think all of the mega-temple complexes in India were built during a period of economic stagnation?
India has had many prosperous epochs. The emperor Ashoka for example ruled over a large part of India, had vassals in neighboring countries and is largely responsible for the spread of Buddhism to countries in SE Asia.
Africa also has had many advanced, economically well off empires. Even when there weren't any white guys to show them how!
Egypt is in Africa you know. So is Tunis and Algeria. So was Carthage. It's not all just mud huts and zebras.
Both of those places were doing stuff like alphabets and math and chemistry when Northern Europeans were living in thatched huts with their livestock. Covered in fleas and excrement.
I say this as a nominally northern European guy myself. In the long lens of history we have mostly been shit streaked barbarians. Which I kind of think is funny.
I was going to bring this up as well, but I'm not the most well versed in Indian history, but to say that African and India have never been better off then they are now is utterly preposterous. I think people often forget Egypt is in Africa for some reason...
Quote from: calaverasgrande on June 19, 2016, 10:55:43 PM
that is some ignorant shit there.
For example, do you think all of the mega-temple complexes in India were built during a period of economic stagnation?
India has had many prosperous epochs. The emperor Ashoka for example ruled over a large part of India, had vassals in neighboring countries and is largely responsible for the spread of Buddhism to countries in SE Asia.
Africa also has had many advanced, economically well off empires. Even when there weren't any white guys to show them how!
Egypt is in Africa you know. So is Tunis and Algeria. So was Carthage. It's not all just mud huts and zebras.
Both of those places were doing stuff like alphabets and math and chemistry when Northern Europeans were living in thatched huts with their livestock. Covered in fleas and excrement.
I say this as a nominally northern European guy myself. In the long lens of history we have mostly been shit streaked barbarians. Which I kind of think is funny.
I get the feeling you don't get what I'm saying. All these empires you are listing still had populations with an average life span of about 30-35 years, massive infant mortality and unheard of levels of violence. The quality of life in these areas NEVER matched even the crappiest states in Africa today.
Do you seriously entertain the notion that the places you discuss were "prosperous" in the sense that Western Europe and the US became prosperous from the 19th century onwards, and in the sense that most other portions of the world have become (slightly less) prosperous by adapting Western technology and social innovations? You do realize that fucking Liberia today has an over 20 years longer life expectancy than Egypt had during the heyday of its dynasties (https://blogs.ucl.ac.uk/researchers-in-museums/2015/03/02/old-age-in-ancient-egypt/ - http://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/liberia-life-expectancy), and that this is a direct product of Western influence and medical science? My point is not that white people have always been "better" than everyone else - that is a completely uninteresting discussion, much like the alleged superiority of the Carthaginian infant furnaces over Northern European "mud huts" two thousand years ago. The point is that Capitalism and "Western Dominance" have NOT made the Third World poor - people in these areas were always, even in times of empire, much poorer than they are today, and if you bothered to click on the links I provided on literacy, infant mortality and life expectancy you might have grasped my point. The improvement in the living conditions of people in general of the past 50-100 years are completely unmatched in history, and it is a function of the expansion through various forms of imperialism of Western technology, to a lesser extent of the market economy, and perhaps to some extent of "Western values" like democracy and egalitarianism (though I'm not really sure about that last part). This may prove to have numerous terrible consequences in the long run, but to seriously suggest that "white people" have somehow made the world poor and miserable demands a complete lack of historical knowledge. It is an opinion held by idiots and propagated by liars.
yeah had nothing to do with penicillin, anti-malarial drugs, polio vax or anything else of a medical nature.
I really dont give two shakes about Africa. It does seem like there are horrific places on that landmass.
I just don't like when people write off whole continents as shitty. Or propose that there is some inherent goodness in magic hand of capital.
BTW, this is not a college credit course here. Nobody is compelled to click links because they are provided.
Quote from: calaverasgrande on June 20, 2016, 01:37:37 AM
yeah had nothing to do with penicillin, anti-malarial drugs, polio vax or anything else of a medical nature.
Invented and distributed to the world largely by which civilization and sociopolitical system?
My point is not really to write off any particular continents. My point is that to the extent that life is about things like avoiding hunger and starvation, avoiding being randomly beaten or executed by Elephant and to be able to read and buy some stuff for yourself, Western dominance has been far more a good thing than a bad thing. This does not exclude various forms of radical criticism (overpopulation, the possibility that nationalism and the will to be autonomous as a collective is actually MORE important to people even than prosperity, the sneaking suspicion that once you have all this stuff you become so alienated and cynical that you're actually worse off... There's lots of takes). I'm basically not "defending Capitalism" either, it just disgusts me to see the the Left bitch about things which it should be ecstatic about, and pretend like white people invented or is even particularly prominent when it comes to historical or contemporary oppression.
If oppression and plunder by themselves made cultures prosper, the world would be ruled by Saudi Arabia and pirates.
Quote from: Stoa on June 20, 2016, 08:39:16 AM
If oppression and plunder by themselves made cultures prosper, the world would be ruled by Saudi Arabia and pirates.
Isn't it?
I've long been of the opinion that Marxism is an excellent critique of capitalism, but an awful idea about how to fix things. It seems there are a few Norse countries that have done a swell job of mixing capitalism and socialism. But they also have fucktons of some national resource to fund that. And a stable, generally docile society.
I do know that pax Romana, pax Germania and Pax Americus are all doomed to inevitable failure. Empires depend upon expansion and wars. They need to fuel the war industry. They need to steal, instead of negotiate for, resources. They need a populist mandate to justify their empire. I find it hard to think of any empire that was just, free and generally a good thing. All of them became horribly corrupt. In this you find a commonality with socialist nations like USSR, China and Cambodia. When you concentrate all of the power in one place, genocides, pogroms and other abuses happen.
The one thing that capitalism has over pure socialism is that the adversarial relationship between public and private keeps anyone from getting an upper hand for long.
I dont know maybe Jacque Fresco and his resource based model is the eventual way to go. Good luck getting there with the human nature of greed and avarice not getting in the way.
Quote from: calaverasgrande on June 20, 2016, 09:13:29 PM
I've long been of the opinion that Marxism is an excellent critique of capitalism, but an awful idea about how to fix things.
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Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on June 20, 2016, 10:36:46 AM
Quote from: Stoa on June 20, 2016, 08:39:16 AM
If oppression and plunder by themselves made cultures prosper, the world would be ruled by Saudi Arabia and pirates.
Isn't it?
My heart is surely ruled by that beautiful ne'er-do-well Jack Sparrow, so I guess you just closed the damn thread.
Even capitalists (the more thoughtful and honest ones) admit that Marx had their system worked out. If he was smart, he would have stopped short at analysing and critiquing. But, alas, he was that most horrible of humans, a humanist. He tried to come up with a "solution" and the rest is history. Bloody, oppressive, corpse-piled, gulag-stuffed history.
Quote from: Stoa on June 20, 2016, 11:58:46 PM
My heart is surely ruled by that beautiful ne'er-do-well Jack Sparrow, so I guess you just closed the damn thread.
By definition, anyone who has the cut-throat gumption, drive, will, desire and self-obsession to make themselves top maggot in the shit heap has the heart of a pirate. From African war lord to sheikh of Saudi Arabia to CEO of Money International to alpha dog of the biker or street or prison gang - pirates, the lot. Civilisation owes a great deal to the pirates of humanity. They are the do-ers, the go-getters, the achievers, the day-seizers, the ones who are out there making it while the rest of us just dream. It's only right we accept their rule.
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on June 21, 2016, 01:49:35 AM
But, alas, he was that most horrible of humans, a humanist. He tried to come up with a "solution" and the rest is history.
Any political philosopher who offers a solution to our problems is a humanist. From the extreme left all the way to the extreme right, people offer ways for humans to coexist. Even the most discriminatory dictator that murders people for the colour of their skin (or whatever), believes in a very specific form of humanism, that a certain type of human should be protected, and that certain type of human can coexist with others of his type. Sadly, it seems that humans can't coexist, not just because of the colour of their skin or religion or whatever, but because they are
human. It's probably a rather gloomy way of looking at it, but its the only true way to look at politics, I think.
This seems rather inaccurate. It would be foolish to say humanism covers any idea what comes from mans brain. There is rather clear meaning for the word. If someone offers solutions what exclude emphasis on the value and agency of human being, setting values and action with barely emphasis on traditional humanist values as freedom and rational progress, there is no reason to call it "humanism".
Perhaps this is simply the disappointment how every humanist agenda provides failure and every anti-humanist ideal provides uncomfort and misery for lesser men who seek comfort and happiness?
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on June 21, 2016, 04:11:55 PM
This seems rather inaccurate. It would be foolish to say humanism covers any idea what comes from mans brain. There is rather clear meaning for the word. If someone offers solutions what exclude emphasis on the value and agency of human being, setting values and action with barely emphasis on traditional humanist values as freedom and rational progress, there is no reason to call it "humanism".
Perhaps this is simply the disappointment how every humanist agenda provides failure and every anti-humanist ideal provides uncomfort and misery for lesser men who seek comfort and happiness?
What I meant, and perhaps didn't state clearly, is any ideology that places value on any human life, is humanism, at least by my definition. Even the elitist dictator places a value on his life, and maybe some of his countrymen. Not traditional humanism but still what I'd call humanism. Not every idea from a man's brain is humanism, but almost all political ideology has some form of humanism.
Of course humanist agendas fail, it's only natural that any ideology that propose good for all men ( and women, whatever) will be conquered by those ideologies that don't. The less moral an ideology, the more likely it is to succeed, which is why capitalism reigns supreme. And as for being disappointed with humanist agendas, that would imply I had any expectations for them in the first place.
Quote from: Duality on June 21, 2016, 05:22:58 PM
The less moral an ideology, the more likely it is to succeed
Hence the massive success of North Korean necrocratic Stalinism...
Seriously: no. The more
realistic an ideology, the more likely it is to succeed. Morality may enter into it, but is not essential. Modern welfare state capitalism, with its combination of state "public relations" (propaganda), free market production/consumption and huge leeway for personal and (in the case of the US) even collective quirks and nonsense are largely adapted to how human beings work, and hence very durable. And it's certainly not the worst, though equally certainly not the best possible (which is probably pretty terrible too, but that's another story).
Inventing an ideology based on a type of human being that never was and most likely never will be, and then blame everyone else for failing to conform to one's own fantasies, is stupid. Communism and its various cousins aren't "good theories that don't work in practice". They are shit theories, and that is why they don't work.
If people like to own their own stuff rather than share it with every other asshole on the planet, then they should. People not too fond of "diversity"? Let them live where they want, and fuck diversity. Is it good if people share part of their resources, so others don't starve? Is there a point to know at least something about the people on the other side of the bridge? Probably and probably, so let's work with that, then. While human egoism and shortsightedness is probably a source of much suffering, on a political level the human will to spread its fantastic ideas about how to make everything much nicer for everyone is certainly pretty close to the top of the evil chart.
We are never really "good" except in concrete interaction with people we actually interact with. Making up redistribution schemes and bitching about how human beings fail to live up to our own "ideals" has nothing to do with morals, or even being a relatively decent human being. Which is probably why so many left wing people are complete and utter assholes in every respect; because they think their opinions make them good people. No opinions make us any better or worse by themselves, our behavior (and, perhaps, our internal state of mind) does.
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/kenya-judge-upholds-anal-probes-define-sexuality-39898157
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on June 22, 2016, 08:21:12 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/kenya-judge-upholds-anal-probes-define-sexuality-39898157
Well this lives up to the thread title :)
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jun/24/nigel-farage-ugliness-bullet-fired?CMP=fb_gu
LOL!
Frankly I think the Brexit people are idiots.
The UK hasn't had a sustainable economic model since they were a legit empire. Everything since then, right or left, has been various flavors of crumbling. I mean, is there even a British car manufacturer that is actually still British and not owned by one of their former colonies?
Getting out of the EU is going to make things better for some folks in finance. But I think the blue collar guy will be worse off.
Sure they may no be paying VAT, but they need to have money to pay for something that requires VAT.
Should be cheap to fly to the UK for the next year or 5.
I don't think Norway suffers outside EU. If they took a right decision we ll see it in 5-7 years, not now, not next year. At least, they have a chance, to change things for good or bad, their own, even with their own shitty politicians but not Schauble and his yes-man puppets. In EU there isn't any chance. Shit it is, shit will remain. I hope this was just the beginning. You know some people prefer to be a little more poor than they are now, to not travel free to other countries - but to feel they rule their country, and if it's to be destroyed, let's be by their own mistakes / decisions.
The problems here in the UK are created almost exclusively by its own government and people. For all the critiques we could give of the EU, this vote was won off the back of major ignorance and fear, capitalised upon by career politicians. This was not, by and large, a decision arrived at through critical thought and weighing of the issues. The same gang of rich boy politicians have been running things into the ground during EU and will be what we are left with once we exit. Good luck everyone and well done. Let me know when the hyperbole about 'ruling your own country' and 'being the best we can be' stops being comforting.
(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/79832327939deefedf258bbf530c7a641a613895/0_146_3000_1800/master/3000.jpg?w=620&q=55&auto=format&usm=12&fit=max&s=dfcbc123d7281900fc58153600a915d1)
Quote from: Duncan on June 25, 2016, 01:23:27 PM
The problems here in the UK are created almost exclusively by its own government and people. For all the critiques we could give of the EU, this vote was won off the back of major ignorance and fear, capitalised upon by career politicians. This was not, by and large, a decision arrived at through critical thought and weighing of the issues. The same gang of rich boy politicians have been running things into the ground during EU and will be what we are left with once we exit. Good luck everyone and well done. Let me know when the hyperbole about 'ruling your own country' and 'being the best we can be' stops being comforting.
This sums up my opposition to 99% of things political. Both on the national and local level.
Whether it's Gavin Newsom's "care not cash" plan for dealing with homeless, or Donald Trump's wall, it's all a bunch of rich boys using other peoples lives as poker chips. In some cases I actually kind of agree with getting rid of certain programs or whatever, but the motives of the politicians involved are so nakedly self aggrandizing and callous I come down with a severe case of fuck this shit.
https://www.yahoo.com/music/justin-timberlake-apologizes-problematic-tweet-145501168.html (https://www.yahoo.com/music/justin-timberlake-apologizes-problematic-tweet-145501168.html)
The guy was on their side and they still felt the need to attack him for no real reason at all, and basically forced a PR apology out of him.
Appropriation of culture doesn't exist.
Quote from: Duncan on June 25, 2016, 01:23:27 PMThis was not, by and large, a decision arrived at through critical thought and weighing of the issues.
No decision decided by vote ever is. We do encounter the usual problem when people explain to us how stupid referendums are, though. That is that many of the folks now telling Europe that this is a horrible example of democracy run amok are:
a) democratically elected themselves, which may in fact prove their point. If Great Britain or other Europeans are too stupid to decide if they want to be part of the EU or not, obviously they are too stupid to elect representatives, and we should revert to monarchy. That statement is 51% sarcastic, if that.
b) assholes in general. The main argument for Brexit in retrospect, to me, is that it has been condemned by every asshole on the planet.
In my opinion, the European Union could be a good thing if it secured its borders and represented Europe's geopolitical interests, rather than those of the US. At this point it does neither, and the stupidity of its leaders is beyond belief. IF you want to create an "open market" and profit immensely off of the working classes + the intelligentia of Europe, giving a few I-phones back in return, then kindly don't ruin the places where we live. Many of these cunts now lecturing the "xenophobes" of Britain for ruining the economy have themselves spent tens of thousands of Euros to buy homes well away from the "diversity." Why the FUCK do they expect working class whites to care about a loss of a couple of hundred quids in their monthly family income (which, apocalyptic and masturbatory revenge-fantasies of the Guardian comment section aside, is likely to be the absolutely most extreme result for most poor Britons even in a worst case scenario) to achieve the same result?
I don't mean this in any overtly radical way (i.e. "everyone who won't pass my special blood test will be killed or shipped back"), but I also don't mean it in any overtly retarded way (i.e. "well, the problem is that we don't do enough to integrate them" or "the real problem is radical Islam and that some of these new citizens don't like gay pride").
Either way, since I think a discussion of the moral value of immigration would send the forum ballistic, I will limit myself to this observation: if Europe had kept its borders secure and limited immigration to a reasonable level, none of this would have happened. While some may have voted brexit because they believed the EU fee would go towards health care or whatever other completely uninteresting retard issue the media is now pretending was very relevant to people's decision, the vast majority voted because they don't want to go outside and be met by the "oppressed Other" scratching his crotch and staring at them in a hostile fashion.
And before anyone goes all "well in fact" on me, I am well aware that the forces behind Brexit most likely will not limit immigration, since the neoliberal right never wants to. Still, the campaign pretended to, and the worse the situation in Europe gets, the more that strategy will pay off.
I've been under the impression the Brexit campaign was partially cloaked xenophobia and racism, but more so, it was about anti-intellectualism, anti-reason, and anti-experts. People not caring about facts, or rather scoffing at them; as many in the USA don't care if Trump tells one lie after another during his speeches at such a clip that fact checkers can't keep up. Rather than picking out one or two lies in a speech, it's easier to pick out the lone truths because they so rarely happen. It's interesting how the "1%" has been so successful at pitting the working and lower classes against the middle-upper and white collar classes rather than against them. The anger and frustration that ultimately comes out in self-destructive behavior.
I encourage people to google the Trump response to Brexit he gave at his new golf course opening in Scotland the next day. It's golden. You want to see a person who has no idea what is happening in the world and whose policy is clearly not having policy? There you go. The guy can't stay consistent within a sentence. Crazy. Literally.
Intelligent and thought provoking post, Stoa, however, as one living on the ground of the madness that the Brexit vote has produced I want to just very simply pick up on two things
Quote from: Stoa on June 28, 2016, 12:22:34 AM
The main argument for Brexit in retrospect, to me, is that it has been condemned by every asshole on the planet.
For me at least, being stuck on an island with many of these assholes and their friends running the show is a more immediate issue. I think this referendum has been a frighteningly concrete example that throwing the baby out with the bathwater and not using your vote to veer - even slightly - away from making a bad situation worse is the kind of theoretical stance best reserved for teenagers or people who don't have to live the reality of what this kind of poison can produce.
Quote from: Stoa on June 28, 2016, 12:22:34 AMa loss of a couple of hundred quids in their monthly family income (which, apocalyptic and masturbatory revenge-fantasies of the Guardian comment section aside, is likely to be the absolutely most extreme result for most poor Britons even in a worst case scenario) to achieve the same result?
Perhaps it's just late and I haven't understood this properly, but are you positing that the loss of a couple hundred quid a month, even for the poorest Britons as a worse case scenario, is not something to be THAT worried about? Granted, it isn't the collapse of Western Civilization, but for many this would be a massive loss and one which would mark a major blow to an already worryingly unstable economic situation that most live under despite being in full time work. If it seems like something people shouldn't be concerned about or should suck up for the benefit of a long term gamble on an almost entirely unplanned, unprepared for new system, then I think the chasm between theory and practice that has effected the way so many voted and since reacted to this whole referendum has simply been illustrated yet again.
(If I've misread this I'll delete it.)
Quote from: Duncan on June 28, 2016, 12:49:08 AM
Perhaps it's just late and I haven't understood this properly, but are you positing that the loss of a couple hundred quid a month, even for the poorest Britons as a worse case scenario, is not something to be THAT worried about? Granted, it isn't the collapse of Western Civilization, but for an awful lot of people here that is a big loss and one which would mark a major blow to an already worryingly unstable economic situation. If it seems like something people shouldn't be concerned about or should suck up for the benefit of a long term gamble on an almost entirely unplanned, unprepared for new system, then I think the chasm between theory and practice that has effected the way so many voted and since reacted to this whole referendum has simply been illustrated yet again.
I should perhaps be a bit clearer: first of all, I don't think this will happen. In fact, unless there is some Vaster Conspiracy which really wants to fuck the UK over on account of you guys leaving the EU, there is no reason what so ever to think that the very poorest of the UK would lose a couple of 100 quids a month on account of brexit (at least not in some mechanistic fashion). When I said worst case scenario, I meant it.
However: most/many people, working class people included, who voted for brexit knew that their vote might entail economic hardship - at least I don't think they believed it would mean money in their pocket. And my opinion is that many were motivated by the issue of exaggerated "extra-European" immigration, and saw leaving the EU as the way to solve that issue. That may have been completely wrong, for one thing the Eastern European presence in the EU means there are FAR more politicians present there who are fucking serious about "Western Civilization", or at least "limits on immigration," than there are among the populist farts who may in fact just want to remake the UK into a Social Darwinist free trade zone deluxe, and could theoretically up immigration further (this is all a matter of Conspiracy vs. Populism - I think you should pray for the latter).
My point is just that poor/working class brexit voters prioritized other things than their own immediate
economic well being. And that the white/jewish/indian/whatever British middle class voters who spend tens of thousands to escape the ghettos of their own creation shouldn't call these people "stupid" when they have similar priorities, but express these through this referendum rather than through consumption patterns which are closed to them.
Quote from: Duncan on June 28, 2016, 12:49:08 AM
For me at least, being stuck on an island with many of these assholes and their friends running the show is a more immediate issue. I think this referendum has been a frighteningly concrete example that throwing the baby out with the bathwater and not using your vote to veer - even slightly - away from making a bad situation worse is the kind of theoretical stance best reserved for teenagers or people who don't have to live the reality of what this kind of poison can produce.
This. We could use more of this type of voice...everywhere. The
rebel without a cause voter. It indeed sounds like a bunch of angsty teenagers playing a dangerous game. The fact that it is mostly older, entitled folk who have been a definitive voice of selfishness since WWII, up to Korea, makes it not at all surprising, but very much frightening. This is their MO. Boomers strutting their assholishness once again.
The poor and uneducated people must not have a say in Britain's future. That's not democracy—democracy is the one where a country is run by midwives, teachers, NGO workers, semi-professional artists, and secondhand-book dealers. The elderly had voted Out, but then, the selfish bastards were going to die soon anyway. Once again, democracy had been betrayed because ultimately democracy is a system based on how many years you have left to live.
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/07/the-war-on-stupid-people/485618/ (http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/07/the-war-on-stupid-people/485618/)
QuoteWhen Michael Young, a British sociologist, coined the term meritocracy in 1958, it was in a dystopian satire. At the time, the world he imagined, in which intelligence fully determined who thrived and who languished, was understood to be predatory, pathological, far-fetched. Today, however, we've almost finished installing such a system, and we have embraced the idea of a meritocracy with few reservations, even treating it as virtuous. That can't be right. Smart people should feel entitled to make the most of their gift. But they should not be permitted to reshape society so as to instate giftedness as a universal yardstick of human worth.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on June 28, 2016, 04:04:59 AM
The poor and uneducated people must not have a say in Britain's future. That's not democracy—democracy is the one where a country is run by midwives, teachers, NGO workers, semi-professional artists, and secondhand-book dealers. The elderly had voted Out, but then, the selfish bastards were going to die soon anyway. Once again, democracy had been betrayed because ultimately democracy is a system based on how many years you have left to live.
I presume you're joking? I have no problem limiting the franchise, but to blame it all on 'the elderly' is just facile. The young also had the opportunity to vote, and didn't in droves. Anyway, when they'd grow up a bit and have their own families, they'd inevitably think differently, too.
I'm with Stoa on this: the ultimate deciding factor was massive and uncontrolled immigration coming from the Middle East and Africa. It serves them right, really. Also, I don't think the UK will actually end up leaving the EU. In a year or two there will be another referendum - it happened before w/ Ireland (twice), and Denmark.
So now democrats discovered that democracy sucks ! Well done ! Never too late !
You tell to someone "You got your country back" and he replies to you "But i will lost 100-200 euros per month" and "The stock markets have crashed".
When a prisoner is released / escapes, most of the times, at first at least, his life out is worse, more difficult than the life in. You can always return in, to be sure you will have a plate of food and a roof to sleep under. Your call. Tell EU you are not capable to live alone, ask for forgiveness, cry / beg to open you the door to enter again. Or tell them to fuck off, you will live your life.
Quote from: Theodore on June 28, 2016, 01:16:36 PM
So now democrats discovered that democracy sucks ! Well done ! Never too late !
This is the intrinsic contradiction of democracy itself. It is not justice governing, but an arbitrary group of people chosen by a mass of people that thinks alike in that specific moment, but may regret it in a few days.
And now that interests of pressure groups were touched, democracy is no longer valid.
It is always like this since that term was used.
You either have direct democracy like in Switzerland, where anyone can rise an issue and invest into changing thing, or it is fake.
quitter
http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/doctor-who-star-christopher-eccleston-8299115?ICID=FB_mirror_main
Quote from: tiny_tove on June 28, 2016, 04:35:39 PM
This is the intrinsic contradiction of democracy itself. It is not justice governing, but an arbitrary group of people chosen by a mass of people that thinks alike in that specific moment, but may regret it in a few days.
And now that interests of pressure groups were touched, democracy is no longer valid.
It is always like this since that term was used.
You either have direct democracy like in Switzerland, where anyone can rise an issue and invest into changing thing, or it is fake.
I agree, although i wouldn't call it "fake". It's just another type of democracy, based on Roman Res Publica, you vote someone to represent you. Far worse than direct Athenian type democracy indeed, but not fake. Either way democracy may work / worked good in small population communities / cities for some short period of time, but doesn't work in bigger scale. Do you know many societies where 50% + 1 are clever / reasonable / capable enough ? Nowadays, a 30% [If you count the non-voters is even less] is enough for a party to govern a country. I don't accept my vote count the same with a retarted's or genious' one. I don't accept to have to choose from a table with rotten vegetables.
Funny is that "democrats" politicians know that democracy sucks. They just pretend the democrats and praise democracy to take the vote of the democrats, who think "people have the power" and that their vote really matters !
Italian democracy is the stupidest. Last two governaments were not even elected by the public itself.
There were no elections, just a white coup d'etat led by technocrats and bankers.
Not that the opposition is better, but they even stopped giving the illusion.
The massive wave of corruption we are - once again -witnessing on all fronts was not enough to kick Renzi's ass back home. Said this, once again, the alternative is definitely not as exciting.
You know, I know what I'm about to bring up is stupid and not related to Brexit or whatever and is probably a waste of time, but I can't stand that fucking "rape culture" thing the feminists are always going on about. I mean, yeah, I have a tendency to get caught in arguments because I guess I just get bored and like to have something to worry about to make me feel like my life (or anyone else's life for that matter) means a shit, but it's just... I don't care when people get raped as much as when someone is religious and trying to pass religious laws, or say some bullshit religious stuff. Rape is just something that happens like meteors and lightning strikes, there's something different about the mind of a rapist than a "normal" human mind, because as a reflection of the chaotic order of the universe, there happens to be some people who will come and hit you like a bolt of lightning because that's just the sort of world we live in. Doesn't mean that I enjoy that that happens, or that I think that it's okay, but I actually have more sympathy for someone who does something like that, because at least I know that there's probably something fundamentally different about their brain, and people don't even know about that or care and they just wanna go and say that rapists are the problem and we need to teach society not to rape.
You wanna teach people to give a shit about whether or not they rape someone? That doesn't work, society is filled with vicious fucks who don't care, and you know who is really like that? Religious people, with their self righteousness and the fact that their minds are probably even more fucked up. But no one gives a fuck about that, people think that religious people are just a totally cool normal part of our society, NO. I mean, this is just me shouting at the empty void wishing that there was some element of power that could shift in the side of good, like an actual fucking good guy, but religion is a horrible illogical stupid concept that's perpetuated because people's minds are not capable of intelligent thinking. Yet some how, when I look at these people who are rapists and I don't see the epitome of evil, I see them for what they really are which is just a bunch of people who have much different ways of thinking and probably different biology from me, I get called a fucking rape apologist. What the fuck am I apologizing for? People are fucking morons and they can't realize jack fucking shit about this planet, which is why I fucking fantasize about suicide all the time and am always muttering under my breath "I can't fucking wait to die". PS I don't actually wanna die, because I wanna live for 1000 years and watch religion finally die out.
Then you get people trying to say that rapists are evil. WHAT THE FUCK IS "EVIL"? Can you explain that concept using science? NOOOOO. If you can't explain it with science, then it's not a part of our fucking universe. Everything in our universe exists on some sort of scientific level, because we observe absolutely everything in the universe with science. The reason that evil doesn't exist is because there's no level of importance in our universe, if an astroid came and wiped out our entire fucking planet, 0 fucks would be given, because no one would be around to give those fucks, because we'd all be dead! HAH! I say fucking good riddance, to this stupid fucking planet of empty headed simpletons, of which I am one of the sole bastions of intelligence and wisdom. FUCK EM! So sick of being one of the only smart people on this entire planet, it's like a fucking god send when I see anyone who can see the world intelligently, there's people who far surpass my intelligence and I fucking ENVY THEM. Soooooooo yeah fuck the human race, and yay rape, go rape that mother fucking cunt, bitch was probably a stupid feminist cunt anyways.
And yeah I'm sure a lot of people would think that last paragraph I wrote is "wrong". It's funny how they look at something like that and only take away that one little part of it and all of a sudden have full blown adhd for all the other good points I said. People are stupid that way, but whatever. Just what is "wrong" anyways? It's only wrong to you because the side of not hurting other human beings has been the historic winner, because the majority of people have empathy for other people, but the victor is the one who decides history, and if it were the other way around then people would be saying rape is good because it gets people off. I'm not condoning rape or whatever, I'm just saying that that's the nature of the reality we live in, so whenever I see that whole "it's morally wrong thing" I just cringe because it's such a one sided perspective. Yeah it's "wrong", but that doesn't mean that the universe itself sides with you, that doesn't mean that the nature of the universe itself isn't indifferent, and guess what we're made of the same molecules and properties of matter that fucking trees are made of, fucking trees and a 1 year old boy are just as "bad" as rapists and pedophiles. So do you see how that logic just sort of annoys me?
There is no god.
I can't wait til we have computers that have common sense and can hold a real conversation. I would spend so much fucking time just talking to the computer.
Btw, it looks pretty bad that Britain left the European Union, just from what I've heard. The only arguments I've seen so far (not from here, I haven't read the discussion here yet) is the whole libertarian "taxation is theft" thing which always seems to rear it's ugly head at absolutely every juncture, with no nuance or subtlety.
Quote from: oOoOoOo on June 29, 2016, 01:55:46 AM
You know, I know what I'm about to bring up is stupid and not related to Brexit or whatever and is probably a waste of time, but I can't stand that fucking "rape culture" thing the feminists are always going on about. I mean...
There is no god.
Yeah these days it's not enough to think everyone deserves the same basic human rights.
You have to believe that white people are guilty of the sins of the forebears, and all men are guilty of a universal conspiracy to perpetuate rape.
Sorry I never bought in to the white guilt thing, that is a disease of the middle class, and I grew up poor as fuck.
Quote from: calaverasgrande on June 29, 2016, 04:51:28 AM
Quote from: oOoOoOo on June 29, 2016, 01:55:46 AM
You know, I know what I'm about to bring up is stupid and not related to Brexit or whatever and is probably a waste of time, but I can't stand that fucking "rape culture" thing the feminists are always going on about. I mean...
There is no god.
Yeah these days it's not enough to think everyone deserves the same basic human rights.
You have to believe that white people are guilty of the sins of the forebears, and all men are guilty of a universal conspiracy to perpetuate rape.
Sorry I never bought in to the white guilt thing, that is a disease of the middle class, and I grew up poor as fuck.
I think there's racism, and then there's fake pseudo intellectual "systematic cultural rape supporting and white privilege racist supporting white heterosexual cis male culture toxic masculinity" or whatever buzz words you can slap onto it. It's complex though, it's not reducible to those simple ideas at all, it actually negates a lot of nuance to just about everything, which is why I don't like those sorts of liberal arguments. I'm very much a liberal though, for example I believe in social benefits for people because we shouldn't have society be a race to see who can trample over the weaker ones, I believe that people should be judged on the quality of their character and not who or what the were born as or identify as, I believe in freedom of speech and having open discussions and not censoring what people say, because the best way to get to better understandings of things is to have big discussions and tackle difficult questions, and if you censor one you open to the door to censoring any of them.
So you see, this is what I have a problem with, is that there's this good and bad dichotomy in the way that we see things now a days, things are
complex and not easily reducible at all. I mean, I think most people should just sit around and wonder to themselves how much they don't actually know, because I do and it's fucking astounding. I don't mean to say that to negate my points or put myself down, but I mean actually think about how much we don't know in general, we get most of our information second hand and a lot of the arguments that people make and even I make are just reiterated rhetoric.
But you see, I get the frustration over liberals to an extent, but I think that I also hear a lot of stuff that conservatives say and I just don't like it or agree with it. I can try to argue why I think that if you give me specific examples, but I think that human kind is fundamentally different on a basic level inside of our brains, which makes some people liberal and some people conservative. It's something which I would like to get to the core of understanding, but it's also something that I don't feel mainstream news media does a really good job with. I mean, if the average person just gets information from the news media, do you know how ignorant they're going to be? For every single real relevant news issue we have in our country like global warming, there's a million other distractions like the fucking transgender bathroom issue, which is absurd. Just let them go to the bathroom!
It's these issues though, regardless of what your stance on whether or not transgender people should be allowed to use the bathroom, which are distractions. Our society isn't concerned with news and competing philosophical ideas, they're concerned with controversy because the human brain is very bored and when people get all involved in some ineffectual political discussion, it works out well for them because they can just say something fired up, not give a shit about the bigger picture and go back to working their pointless job, and just wait until the next exciting waste of time distraction appears to make them feel like they're actually a living breathing human being, and not a hamster on a wheel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VY5uapAE-lk
Tom Araya on gun control
Tom Araya should stick with music.
Quote from: tiny_tove on June 29, 2016, 01:59:34 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VY5uapAE-lk
Tom Araya on gun control
Speaking as someone who has played in done sound for, recorded and generally hung out with a ton of metalheads. The metal scene has some of the least thought out, stupid and generally ignorant politics you can find. I blame meth and the fact that most metalheads have about an 8th grade education due to smoking dope starting about 9th grade.
I tend to agree that especially in America we do not have political debates. We have waves of sensationalism. After the recent Turkish airport bombings we watched a bunch of CNN and MSNBC because we are gluttons for punishment, and I used to work in broadcast news, so I like to yell technical shit at the TV.
I was kind of surprised that nobody mentioned the blatant symbolism of bombing the Kemal Ataturk International Airport. Not only is it a hub airport which connects the West to the East. It is named after the fricking George Washington of Turkey, who basically founded a modern,
secular muslim country.
Then I wasn't really surprised. That is the type of analysis you barely see in NYT, Washinton Post and the Guardian. It's all hysteria and celebs.
Concerning racism homophobia etc. I am pretty sure there is racism. I grew up in the deep south. I remember seeing a lot of very racist things. In California what passes for racism is fucking weak in comparison.
I like to say that there is prejudice and racism. You are free to be an ignorant shithead and be as prejudiced as you please inside your own head.
But when you start putting up whites only signs and stuff, that is actual racism.
Truth is most people who protest about racism and other identity politics are just frustrated in general. They may have encountered some injustice, but so have I in all my white straight boy-ness. We all do. They have tripped over some easy piece of logic that says it wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't for cisgenderism, white people or capitalism. But that kind of one size fits all logic is identical to white bigots from the deep south who blame everything on watermelon eating black people. Of course one class of people is 'speaking from a place of power'. Which is a cop out and total bullshit. This is not the occupied territories of Palestine. I can't as a white person go shoot up a black neighborhood and have the IDF come save my happy ass.
There are some economic disparities and some real jerks who are cops, but the thing is, if you try and make laws that fix every dumb thing, you make it much worse.
That is a large part of why I kind of hate liberals though in many regards I agree with the bullet points of their agenda. They actual think you can fix racial problems with tax credits and other such bureaucratic nonsense.
Quote from: calaverasgrande on June 30, 2016, 08:00:59 AM
I was kind of surprised that nobody mentioned the blatant symbolism of bombing the Kemal Ataturk International Airport. Not only is it a hub airport which connects the West to the East. It is named after the fricking George Washington of Turkey, who basically founded a modern, secular muslim country.
Then I wasn't really surprised. That is the type of analysis you barely see in NYT, Washinton Post and the Guardian. It's all hysteria and celebs.
what about the weird coincidence that the attack was done the day after Erdogan tried to lower the shields with Russia and become friendlier? if Turkey and Russia starts collaborating many balances will change, this would definitely be a danger for Isis, but also not be enjoyed by western plutocrats.
no more no less than when Italy attempted to start deals regarding energy with Putin and a wave of scandals started from nowhere.
@calaverasgrande
I agree with you on a lot of what you said, but there's just one point about the regulations. I can see how annoying regulations can get, although I specifically can't think of any besides airline security or diving boards at swimming pools. I concede to that frustration, and yeah I don't think that regulations will fix the problems with racism, I think that it would take a long time and new generations of fresh minds who aren't entrenched in what their ignorant parents taught them to make society less racist. So yeah, I don't see regulations as able to fix issues with prejudice.
I do, however, think that some things are just common sense. For example, we don't allow people to own tanks and missiles, this makes a huge amount of sense to me. We check airport security extremely heavily so that people don't hijack the planes, I don't see many people taking issue with that besides for how utterly annoying it is. Yet, we somehow don't extend the same respect to our general society in terms of guns. The facts are clear, we have the highest ownership of guns of almost any country in the world, and we have the most gun deaths. You could also argue against that point and say we also have the most suicides next to japan, and say that mental health is probably an issue too. I'd agree on both points.
I don't think we should take away guns, my point is, we should respect guns as a safety hazard, just as we do driving a car or going through airport security. I don't think that we should have the same amount of security over guns as say, airport security, but I think that about the level of car ownership is necessary, and I like what Hawaii did with it's gun owner registry. Everyone except anarchists will agree, society needs laws and regulations in order to operate, that's why we don't go around with tanks and missile launchers. I think that common sense regulations on guns just make sense, and I think the solution of more guns supposedly solving the problem is absurd.
Quote from: oOoOoOo on June 30, 2016, 02:16:54 PM
The facts are clear, we have the highest ownership of guns of almost any country in the world, and we have the most gun deaths.
I live 90% of my life in Switzerland. Most families own firearms. They are trained to defend themselves yet they have one of the lowest rates of murder in the world.
It is not weapon's fault. They serve the purpose when needed. In your country, it is evident that some people seem to have a big cultural issue with them.
In Italy weapons can be owned only for specific reasons (sport, dangerous jobs, etc.). Despite the fact I love anything that shots and explodes, I think if they would be as available as in the states we would be shooting our neighbors in the streets.
Said this we have an horrible sense of justice that tends to have social organizations and small lobbies considering whoever hold his ground against intruder/robbers getting the blame.
I may have already mentioned that gypsies broke in and psychically attacked two members of my family who backfired (no guns involved). It was 3 vs 2, result was one of these gentlemen with several blunt force traumas on his head and one with alleged broken leg. (Don't mess with a paratrooper). The three low-lives were able to escape like rats, and useless cops said my relatives should not have reacted and those gypos could have sued them for something like GBH.
Despite the damage and the - not so precious - stolen goods, you got the annoying feeling of having some dirty/stinky parasites violating something you work so hard for every day and anything you probably heard hundreds of time from anybody you know who had the same issue.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on June 30, 2016, 06:21:55 PM
"You could also argue against that point and say we also have the most suicides next to japan..."
The U.S. isn't in the top 10 or even the top 25 countries with the highest suicide rates. Japan is.
Well, I heard it from a source that I thought I could trust. It was in a casual conversation with someone who has a PHD in psychology, maybe I misquoted them, maybe they're wrong. I don't stand by that statement as 100% true, but it seems like if it is then it would be convincing.
Maybe too many guns are the problem, maybe mental health is the problem, maybe lack of gun control is the problem, my guess is as good as yours. Please remember, this is only my take on the issues and I can't say with 100% certainty what the problem is, because I don't think I have heard anyone say with 100% certainty some demonstrable facts about what the problem really is. This is just my take.
Quote from: oOoOoOo on June 30, 2016, 06:38:46 PM
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on June 30, 2016, 06:21:55 PM
"You could also argue against that point and say we also have the most suicides next to japan..."
The U.S. isn't in the top 10 or even the top 25 countries with the highest suicide rates. Japan is.
Well, I heard it from a source that I thought I could trust. It was in a casual conversation with someone who has a PHD in psychology, maybe I misquoted them, maybe they're wrong. I don't stand by that statement as 100% true, but it seems like if it is then it would be convincing.
Maybe too many guns are the problem, maybe mental health is the problem, maybe lack of gun control is the problem, my guess is as good as yours. Please remember, this is only my take on the issues and I can't say with 100% certainty what the problem is, because I don't think I have heard anyone say with 100% certainty some demonstrable facts about what the problem really is. This is just my take.
world health organization places usa around the 50th place... most suicidal countries are either from Eeastern Europe or Africa.
Quote from: calaverasgrande on June 30, 2016, 08:00:59 AM
Of course one class of people is 'speaking from a place of power'. Which is a cop out and total bullshit. This is not the occupied territories of Palestine. I can't as a white person go shoot up a black neighborhood and have the IDF come save my happy ass.
I'm with you up to here, and this isn't much of a scenario to prove otherwise. I don't think I have much white guilt, but admittedly, I might have more than I realize. Regardless, I do feel, as a white male in western culture, I'm afforded a lot of luxuries and securities that other demographics aren't privy to having. They might not have them at all, or they might have them to a lesser extent. Doesn't imply white males have a free ride or are living the high life, but comparatively, in most instances, being a white male is gravy. Then again, I'm in agreement with the general definition of racism and the element of power differentiating between racism and bigotry.
Quote from: tiny_tove on June 30, 2016, 04:14:17 PM
Quote from: oOoOoOo on June 30, 2016, 02:16:54 PM
The facts are clear, we have the highest ownership of guns of almost any country in the world, and we have the most gun deaths.
I may have already mentioned that gypsies broke in and psychically attacked two members of my family who backfired (no guns involved). It was 3 vs 2, result was one of these gentlemen with several blunt force traumas on his head and one with alleged broken leg. (Don't mess with a paratrooper). The three low-lives were able to escape like rats, and useless cops said my relatives should not have reacted and those gypos could have sued them for something like GBH.
Despite the damage and the - not so precious - stolen goods, you got the annoying feeling of having some dirty/stinky parasites violating something you work so hard for every day and anything you probably heard hundreds of time from anybody you know who had the same issue.
Wait, gypsies broke into your house and attacked your family, stole stuff and then when said gypsies got the shit beat out of them (by you or your paratrooper relative?) and when the cops showed up they informed you that you shouldn't have defended yourselves, and even more so the intruders/attackers could've sued you? WOW. Not only is this one of the best stories I've ever read on the internet but good work on taking matters into your own hands.
As I think a lot of people know, especially Americans on here I'd assume and gun owners like bitewerks, if you attempt a break and enter in someone's home here in the United States you actually can get away with killing the burglars or intruders in self defense. The 'Make My Day Law' as it's commonly known I believe? We name our laws after one liners from Dirty Harry movies. God Bless 'Merica.
To get back on topic or at least back on the topic at hand at this moment, it seems to me the major issue with the gun violence in the United States is the fact that I'm pretty sure literally a significant portion of the American population has mental health issues and not only is the healthcare system in shambles but mental health issues are blatantly swept under the rug, especially by the media and all the other morons with their typical blame game bullshit every time a shooting happens. I'm sure there is an official statistic out there to prove this right? Mental health issues and guns go together like peanut butter and jelly or like murder and rape. Especially mental health issues, guns and Americans.
As someone who was raised shooting guns and hunting, I was always taught to obviously treat firearms with utmost repsect, care and focus. Watching varieties of people handle guns who usually have no prior experience using a firearm is an extremely interesting affair unto itself. It's pretty fascinating the affect it has on people with the responses ranging from people being scared to others seeming almost sexually aroused and/or overstimulated.
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/06/30/wristbands-stop-sex-attacks/
"It is unclear how effective the wristbands, which read "don't touch me" in Swedish, will be in preventing attacks, as the majority of sex attack perpetrators are thought to be recent migrants who are unlikely to be able to read them."
True or not, that's funny!
Apparently the living is good in Sweden if you're an Islamic immigrant, rapist.
Quote from: oOoOoOo on June 30, 2016, 02:16:54 PM
We check airport security extremely heavily so that people don't hijack the planes, I don't see many people taking issue with that besides for how utterly annoying it is.
No, it's bullshit. It's to make people have a false sense of safety. Everything is ALWAYS hindsight when it comes to airport security 9/11 was an obvious big one and it made it out of control, but things like the shoe bomber are now responsible for taking shoes off through metal detectors. It would be way better if people could bring knives and, hell even guns, on planes because it would potentially halt any "hijacking."
It's totally out of control and really not much safer than it ever was.
Quote from: Fluid Fetish on July 01, 2016, 01:42:58 AM
Wait, gypsies broke into your house and attacked your family, stole stuff and then when said gypsies got the shit beat out of them (by you or your paratrooper relative?) and when the cops showed up they informed you that you shouldn't have defended yourselves, and even more so the intruders/attackers could've sued you? WOW. Not only is this one of the best stories I've ever read on the internet but good work on taking matters into your own hands.
I was not there, it happened to my sister and her husband. But that is exactly what happened.
Quote from: PTM Jim on July 01, 2016, 05:35:13 AM
Quote from: oOoOoOo on June 30, 2016, 02:16:54 PM
We check airport security extremely heavily so that people don't hijack the planes, I don't see many people taking issue with that besides for how utterly annoying it is.
No, it's bullshit. It's to make people have a false sense of safety. Everything is ALWAYS hindsight when it comes to airport security 9/11 was an obvious big one and it made it out of control, but things like the shoe bomber are now responsible for taking shoes off through metal detectors. It would be way better if people could bring knives and, hell even guns, on planes because it would potentially halt any "hijacking."
It's totally out of control and really not much safer than it ever was.
"It would be way better if people could bring knives and, hell even guns, on planes because it would potentially halt any "hijacking." I am face palming so hard right now.
That's why they have secret service agents on flights. Even if they didn't, I'm still face palming at that statement.
It's Federal Air Marshals that are on flights not the Secret Service.
Quote from: oOoOoOo on July 01, 2016, 01:03:41 PM
Quote from: PTM Jim on July 01, 2016, 05:35:13 AM
Quote from: oOoOoOo on June 30, 2016, 02:16:54 PM
We check airport security extremely heavily so that people don't hijack the planes, I don't see many people taking issue with that besides for how utterly annoying it is.
No, it's bullshit. It's to make people have a false sense of safety. Everything is ALWAYS hindsight when it comes to airport security 9/11 was an obvious big one and it made it out of control, but things like the shoe bomber are now responsible for taking shoes off through metal detectors. It would be way better if people could bring knives and, hell even guns, on planes because it would potentially halt any "hijacking."
It's totally out of control and really not much safer than it ever was.
"It would be way better if people could bring knives and, hell even guns, on planes because it would potentially halt any "hijacking." I am face palming so hard right now.
That's why they have secret service agents on flights. Even if they didn't, I'm still face palming at that statement.
As Keith said, it's Federal Air Marshals, and they aren't on every single flight, it's very randomized or they are placed on certain flights for a certain reason.
Face palm all you want, but people are going to do what they want (if there's a will, there's a way) and I'd much rather have armed citizens aboard to fuck them up when it happens.
recent Turkish events show that on board resistance is way beyond useless.
the airport itself is way softer a target than a plane.
clearly, yes, but as said, the terrorists seek soft targets (as again seen in Bangladesh) in order to push forward their programme (fucked as it is in order to , initially promote a fascist type resistance) and general unease(the likes of which we never see in Europe)
Airport security is a joke. I've done numerous installations in airports and other places that fall under TSA/DHS jursidiction.
I was all over one international airport a few years ago installing stuff and the only time we had a law officer with us was when we actually went into the master control for all the security cameras. But we were all over the tarmac, airside, landside areas with big od boxes of tech equipment that could have easily been something bad.
Security is just there to make you feel safe.
Compare US airport security to Israel or Iraq.
Quote from: calaverasgrande on July 03, 2016, 01:56:06 AM
Compare US airport security to Israel or Iraq.
I got fucked with a little bit on the way back from Israel having done a load of shows out there.
They asked me about 15mins worth of questions and had me demonstrate how my gear worked and even explain what experimental music was. Pretty minor stuff and being a polite, smiling boy of Anglo Celtic origin I was just able to answer honestly and move on, proud of having more or less played a short gig in Ben Gurion Airport security, but I can only imagine how difficult that would have been for someone of a different background. Every. Single. Person of any kind of colour or 'interesting' ethnicity was getting herded off to be asked questions by gun wielding youths fresh out of national service.
I was struck with how attractive many of them were though. One particularly sullen lady slapped on a rubber glove in true naughty nurse style, looking me dead in the eye as she rifled through my bag. I think it was meant to frighten me but had an altogether different effect which I took home with me forever.
Quote from: Duncan on July 04, 2016, 09:04:57 PM
Quote from: calaverasgrande on July 03, 2016, 01:56:06 AM
Compare US airport security to Israel or Iraq.
I got fucked with a little bit on the way back from Israel having done a load of shows out there.
They asked me about 15mins worth of questions and had me demonstrate how my gear worked and even explain what experimental music was. Pretty minor stuff and being a polite, smiling boy of Anglo Celtic origin I was just able to answer honestly and move on, proud of having more or less played a short gig in Ben Gurion Airport security, but I can only imagine how difficult that would have been for someone of a different background. Every. Single. Person of any kind of colour or 'interesting' ethnicity was getting herded off to be asked questions by gun wielding youths fresh out of national service.
I was struck with how attractive many of them were though. One particularly sullen lady slapped on a rubber glove in true naughty nurse style, looking me dead in the eye as she rifled through my bag. I think it was meant to frighten me but had an altogether different effect which I took home with me forever.
I love this forum.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on July 05, 2016, 09:15:22 PM
George Wallace (not the comedian).
those were the days!
I'm really butthurt that I don't have a boyfriend, it seems that there's almost nothing that I would want more in my entire life than that, or to be abducted by aliens from outer space, and be taken to a place far away where there's no misery. I mean, seriously! I wonder sometimes if I'm the only person in the world who feels like everything sucks if you have no one to love. Surely I'm not the only one, and my feelings are born out of naivete, and I know in a sort of perverse way how stupid I must sound right now, and for some reason want to say it anyways in spite of this. Why? I don't know, maybe because I'm just lonely and it seems that I want to validate my mundane thoughts with some sort of statement, instead of just the festering bloating waste of space that they take up inside of my head. Now they can become festering bloating wastes of space inside of your head, if that is the case then I have truly accomplished my goal.
However, I would like to get back to bitching about not having a boyfriend. I was just reading The Marble Swarm by Dennis Cooper, I only read the first 19 pages or so, because I get worn out from reading rather quickly. If I could digress, that's another things that I wonder a lot, is if people get worn out of reading or if I'm the only one. It's not that I'm tired of the book because it's boring, it is actually a good book which is relaxing to read, in the same way that reading story of the eye is relaxing to read; I take comfort in perverse stories, they're soothing to me, they probe the parts of your mind which are hiding around dark corners trying to conceal themselves, just waiting for the moment when they can creep from the shadows and make their day. Now, this has to do with boyfriends, because of course the novel has to do with cute guys, which is of course something that I relate to because it's something that I think about all the time.
I just imagine, what would it be like to live with a guy all the time? One who's cute and who I could fulfill my desires and fantasies, one who I could take comfort in and not feel so alone. I almost feel like if I didn't feel alone, and I felt that I could confide in someone else, that maybe I would feel relaxed, maybe my constant - seeming never ending stream of tension inside of me would finally go away. It's always something that I try to imagine, because it always seems as though in this world there is hardly any release, release from what can only be referred to as it. It, what is "it"? It... The thing which seems to keep me grasping for answers and meaning in the world, perhaps, perhaps the thing which keeps us all grasping for meaning. That special it, the wondrous thing which is beyond our grasp of articulation, so much so that we almost feel as though we're the only one who feels it, and by we I mean me (including you in IT would be sort of ironic now, wouldn't it).
It seems that there's always a frustrating limit to what we can do in this world, you can only jump so high. Whether or not these things are subtle, or whether or not they're self imposed, there can be a sort of pervasive limit to what you see in the world around you. There's always a standard, always a sort of common place factor which seems to repeat throughout everything in our world. Or, maybe it's just that we're all so used to seeing everything that nothing seems out of place. Except, it's hard to imagine looking at the world we live in and seeing it as an exotic, or perhaps what I should describe as an exciting place. Because, to tell you the truth, I think that I and probably many other people are simply bored, bored of the lives that they live. I am constantly grasping for what I think it may take to finally make my life more enjoyable, to escape that every pervasive mundane standard sameness that seems to cover every waking thing. I believe the IT, is desire to escape this, I believe.
Maybe I am simply falling into black and white thinking, the idea that there's a lot of people out there who are enjoying their life more than me. I am definitely under the impression that I lead a pretty miserable life. I think that most people besides me have some sort of social life, I know that I have said before that I don't really spend time with anyone. I know that I shouldn't fall into black and white thinking, but it seems that a lot of people have a lot of things to enjoy in their life, in terms of friends and having intimate encounters with other human beings. I wish that it was more apparent who the people are who haven't had these sorts of experiences, because sometimes it feels like I'm the only one who really speaks up about it; that's to say that maybe there is a bunch of other people who share the same experience as I, but they just don't speak up about it because they're too embarrassed about it. I know that I used to be very embarrassed about being a complete and utter loner when I was much younger.
Now, this is the sort of thing which I guess I repeat myself so much, that it just seems sort of routine by now. I think that a lot of the things that I have said in the past few paragraphs are pretty much what I have been saying almost every day for the past several years, just written differently. Although, perhaps what I am writing right now is simply another attempt to find some sort of meaning in it all. Although, I don't really think I like that word meaning, I digress. I always think that maybe if I write down all my thoughts, that somehow I will find a new thread, a new line that leads me somewhere that I haven't been before. That's what writing seems to be for me, my process if I may say. I always just write what is on my mind, and follow the threads of thought and see where they lead. To tell you the truth, I don't really know why I am writing all of this right now, but maybe that's also part of the appeal to me. I mean, I am obviously writing out my feelings, because I have a lot of them bottled up inside of me, but I don't really know what my goal is with you, the reader. Perhaps I just want to relieve some tension from my swelling brain, and hope that in my hasty writing, I've managed to say something insightful.
I just wish that there wasn't aging, and that I could just spend all the time in the world that I wanted on one thing. Could you imagine how nice being alone would be then? Imagine how it would rewire the brain, spending time on tasks wouldn't be weighted with the prospect of wasting time, imagine the patience that people would build up when they don't feel the pressure to not waste their time. I could just sit around all day reading enormous books, content in knowing that I could simply take as much time as I want, I could spend all the time I want alone and not have to worry about the things which I'm not doing and which I'm missing out on. I feel though, that because of the fact that I am growing older, I am missing out on things which I could be doing. This is one of the things which I believe makes me most upset. I feel this insatiable existentialism which seems to have never gone away since I was very young. I remember when I was a poor, feeble and naive young boy, how the pointlessness of life and the terrifying prospect of death would trouble me to no end. That, coupled with the world around that just doesn't seem to give a flying fuck, I believe saps the life out of what could be a perfectly happy person.
However, I do believe that it is possible to be happy in this world. I like to think of things in terms of what could be, rather than fall into the trap of thinking about what is. When you think about the universe, there is always the prospect of what could be. There's always a possibility that something "could exist", whether by coming forth by virtue of some factors that don't exist, or by what could exist where the circumstances to be right. For instance, I could lock eyes with a beautiful young man, with a gorgeous body who happens to be attracted to me and have the same interests as me and connect to me on a deeper level; that could happen. It could also happen, that by virtue of total randomness, the entire anatomy of the world changes, and it becomes a place which is nice to live in. That, is in the realm of imagination. It is nice to have an imagination, although I don't think that I would typically praise having an imagination as anything that important. Well, I would, but I don't make a big deal out of it. I think I heard it said on the science channel best; our atoms could disassemble and rearrange themselves perfectly on mars, then disassemble themselves and rearrange themselves back on earth, but the likelyhood of that happening is infinitely small.
The thoughts in the last paragraph admittedly may come as no surprise to some of you who read it. I'm not even quite sure if that's what I am really thinking. I think that I exist simply because I am awake, and I don't seem to protest my own existence. I simply exist, there is no serious contemplation that goes into my existence every second of it, unless I take the time to reflect on it (which I often do). So, to say that is the reason that I can find some comfort in the world, was simply a false assumption, which came about only because I thought at that moment that seemed like an interesting view of the world. I apologize to you, reader, for wasting some more of your time. I said that with the idea that it may be sort of a funny thing to say, I don't know why I found it funny to say something self deprecating right there, surely you wouldn't understand. That's something else that I believe is sort of interesting, if I may bide a bit more of your time to listen to my rambling. It's just funny to me, how sometimes the intention of how you mean to come off doesn't come off at all. I wonder sometimes, how conscious I really am of this.
I guess I always did have a sort of sophisticated sense of humor. At least, I was told that when I was young that my sense of humor was very good. Although I wonder if somehow it has morphed into something which is much more convoluted and abstract, too avant garde for the average person to pick up. You may be thinking that I have been trying to be funny in these preceding paragraphs. You would be mistaken, I was not trying to be funny at all. I don't think that there is really much that I could describe about how I am feeling right now, come to think of it. It's funny though, that I say my sense of humor may have evolved out of some overly avant garde development of my brain, to which the humor becomes so abstracted, that only I can appreciate it's greatness. It's a funny thought, no? It's funny because that's absolute bullshit, and I am simply saying it because it came to my head as a passing thought, which I thought that I would use in this paragraph. That may be sort of annoying, but you are the one to blame, you are the one who chose to read my swill. Ahh, but I shouldn't blame you. I have no animosity towards you. I welcome you, reader, warmly to my writing.
Ah that gave me a little bit of a giggle. Just a little bit, not too much of a giggle. It's a sort of sophomoric humor, to be honest. Not highly sophisticated at all. In fact, I'd say that it was rather sophomoric, a rather immature joke on my part. I shouldn't attempt to explain to you the nature of my sense of humor though, because really the nature of my sense of humor is of use to no one, really. At least, I don't think. We'll just say, my sense of humor isn't really very interesting, at least, I don't think. Well, I don't know... I don't really think I know what it is exactly that I'm trying to say. I think that um... yes to describe my sense of humor doesn't seem like a very good use of my time. Although, I wonder why I should feel silly for doing so. Ah, yes. That seems like a good place to describe my thoughts, I feel renewed at the revelation of that. Just now, I was feeling very sad, because I felt like I had used up the well of thoughts that I could possibly write about. I will use this thought now.
Yes, it is very interesting, to think why we have to feel silly about doing anything. It is something that has troubled my brain for a long time. It must have something to do with a deep psychology and neurology of the human mind. I suppose we'd all be a bunch of loonies if we didn't have a sense that told us when we are doing something which we aught not to be doing. I however, believe that I have grown to hate that sense inside of me. It's a sense that seems to obey authority, it's a servile sense that seems to be eager to please others. It's a shame to me, that we seem to live in a world where we are in a constant master and slave relationship with it, and I don't mean the kinky kind of master and slave relationship. I mean that there always seems to be some sort of governing factor, whether it be the way you dress, or people expecting you to be manly instead of girly. That one rather upsets me, people expect guys to be manly, to play the role of their sex. It's a shame though, and really a fallacy, because there's a so called opposite sex who embodies the thing in which it's "wrong" to have in a guy. So, really I think that to say that guys have to be a certain way, is really a sexist opinion. I think that sort of discrepancy can be found in almost everything though, and... oh gosh it just dawned on me, I think that this is also something that I have been talking about at great length for the past several months, and perhaps the past several years. In fact, I think that this is something that I never stop dwelling upon. You see, it seems to there's always a sort of repetition to things. Things feel the same, a lot.
However, I think that it's good to express these thoughts. I have so many thoughts like this all the time, and it seems like people around me follow the world's commands, so obediently, that I feel that expressing these concerns reminds me that I have some sort of voice in the world, that the thoughts inside of my head are real. That thought just made me feel a sort of sweeping melancholy over myself actually. I feel very oppressed by the world, I feel that it has too many rules. I lament these rules a lot, I resent the obedience of the people around me to this world. So, sometimes I feel that I do and say things that may seem embarrassing, but in the end I just wish that I didn't have to feel embarrassed about them. Yeah, I think that's a good note to summarize things on. I just wish that I didn't have to feel embarrassed about these things, I just wish that I could go about living my life never having been judged, never having felt that I needed to fulfill some sort of standard. I'm very hard on myself though, physically and mentally. I won't go too heavy into it, but I'll just say that I do care about myself, I take good care of myself and I eat health and I don't let myself get fat. That is one of the ways I take care of myself. I have counter all of my calories since I was in middle school, because I wanted to have a nice body. I guess it was a good habit to form, counting all my calories and scarcely eating a single unhealthy thing (I'm not anorexic, which you may be thinking, I eat a lot of healthy fat like avocados and olive oil). I'm just saying that I'm not just some slob who doesn't care, I just wish that I could find some happiness in this world, I wish that i didn't have to feel embarrassed.
Ah, I thought that I was going to end right there, but I guess that I'll just go on. I thought that when I brought up my diet that I would be making some sort of point, but I think I came off to myself as simply making a vain statement about my body. I think that it was somewhat sub conscious, bringing up my body to make a statement, perhaps to persuade you that I am in fact an attractive person. Very servile, very vain. I know that when I write this, it may even repel some of you, it may make some people regret that they'd read it, or make some people resent me as a person. You all seem like a rather nice bunch, so I don't necessarily expect that from you. Except I know that there's a lot of people in my life who I have made resent me, often they were just strangers. I leave a lot of bad impressions on people. I guess that is the one thing which I wish didn't have to happen. I wish that I could simply exist in this world without leaving a bad impression on anyone. I wish that everyone in the entire world didn't leave a bad impression on anyone, I wish that we all lived in a society filled with love where everyone was totally cool and comfortable with everyone else. It makes me sad to think that I have to worry about conducting myself, and making myself congenial, simply for the sake of not screwing over my day. On that front, I am wracked with guilt every day of my life, for how embarrassing of a person that I seem to myself, and how I perceive myself to be perceived (perhaps falsely) in the eyes of others. However, I know that this is a truth, which is unavoidable about this world. I wish that I didn't have to worry about feeling embarrassed.
Quote from: oOoOoOo on July 08, 2016, 03:53:18 AMI'm really butthurt that I don't have a boyfriend
I bet you'd be butthurt even if you did.
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LOL
Quote from: Ian B. on July 08, 2016, 06:51:55 AM
this isnt livejournal hombre....chill out.
That's a good point, but sadly I'm already dead.
not intimately acquainted with dead people, but wouldn't typing be beyond you?
or is the interweb more advanced than I thought?
I'm really butthurt that I didn't look after my teeth very well. Looking back on it is pretty disturbing, I remember thinking 'it's so far away being 30 [e.g.] that it doesn't matter' now looking back it's like my younger self hates me.
I have other things I am butthurt about but that's what sprung to mind ATM. I am very butthurt generally!!
Quote from: Duncan on July 04, 2016, 09:04:57 PM
Quote from: calaverasgrande on July 03, 2016, 01:56:06 AM
Compare US airport security to Israel or Iraq.
I got fucked with a little bit on the way back from Israel having done a load of shows out there.
They asked me about 15mins worth of questions and had me demonstrate how my gear worked and even explain what experimental music was. Pretty minor stuff and being a polite, smiling boy of Anglo Celtic origin I was just able to answer honestly and move on, proud of having more or less played a short gig in Ben Gurion Airport security, but I can only imagine how difficult that would have been for someone of a different background. Every. Single. Person of any kind of colour or 'interesting' ethnicity was getting herded off to be asked questions by gun wielding youths fresh out of national service.
I was struck with how attractive many of them were though. One particularly sullen lady slapped on a rubber glove in true naughty nurse style, looking me dead in the eye as she rifled through my bag. I think it was meant to frighten me but had an altogether different effect which I took home with me forever.
This is an awesome story.
Even MMA world isn't safe from PC faggotry (pun fucking intended)
http://www.lowkickmma.com/UFC/donald-cerrone-uses-homophobic-slur-to-describe-cormiers-ufc-200-performance
Truth be told DC fought like a pussy, was dry-humping Silva like a faggot on a red panty night so there you have it.
The Michael Jackson ubber fans are very butthurt by this:
http://now8news.com/insider-reveals-michael-jackson-was-chemically-castrated-as-a-young-boy/
And I in turn am butthurt by them for being such precious little shits, likewise Layne Staley fans (I despise both Jackson and Staley anyway I am butthurt by them not passing into obscurity)
Further butthurt: Staley wrote some of the most banal lyrics I've ever heard but is lauded for them.
Quote from: Deadpriest on July 12, 2016, 07:53:57 PMAnd I in turn am butthurt by them
I hope no one gets butthurt by this, but I must say I am rather butthurt by your butthurt over their butthurt.
my butt hurts.
"Rule one - nooooooo poofters!"
http://thequietus.com/articles/20416-australia-queer-captain-moonlite-marcus-whale (http://thequietus.com/articles/20416-australia-queer-captain-moonlite-marcus-whale)
you nerds have no idea how deep the butthurt goes.
https://medium.com/@We_Are_The_Left/an-open-letter-on-identity-politics-to-and-from-the-left-b927fe66d3a4#.xi1fkjby3
I've got a bit of experience in the left of the US, and it is precisely this type of identity politics which prevents any kind of genuine leftist work from being productive.
I'll never forget when I was watching the OWS stuff transpire, how it got totally co-opted by the identity politics train.
What started out as a lot of people from various backgrounds agitating against Wall st fraud, rapidly devolved into factionalism.
One event sticks out; when a young black woman was speaking from the little stage and said 'you white people are mad about your mortgages, well we never had no mortgages!'. She went on to say a bunch of really stupid stuff about how they were not going to let a bunch of white liberals get away with having their little revolution before they fixed everything else first.
Except about a month previous that same stage was filled with people from all over the community, black, brown, asian, white, testifying about how the banks were still stealing their houses and Obama's administration was doing nothing. Yeah, they had mortgages.
There was also that cute OWS thing 'step up, step back' where if you were a straight white person (esp male!) you were expected to cede your turn to comment to anyone who was less white, less straight or less male than you.
It was quite hilarious when they spent about an hour detailing which -isms trumped other -isms.
Like a black gay male should cede the podium to a white gay paraplegic muslim etc.
"I'm in a nearly airtight room with a bunch of sweaty, aggressive, drunk strangers, many or at least some of whom likely have extremely questionable views about women and minorities, and almost all of whom are significantly larger than I am. I'm in pain and being groped and I'm not getting any of the shots I need."
http://www.invisibleoranges.com/destroyer666-live-at-st-vitus/
well besides being annoyed that I missed that show(I'm in Brooklyn but I have zero luck at finding out about shows before they happen), I'm kind of sick of stories like this.
What does the writer want? nice safe heavy metal with nothing offensive, no violence and probably free range gluten free BBQ served as well?
I've noticed that out of the really great shows I've been to, and the really bad shows I have been to, there is a direct correlation between the 'safety' of the venue and the suckiness.
The underground shows at places that would not pass fire safety inspection are usually the best. That is where I have seen the best noise, metal, synth-punk, hip hop and hardcore shows.
The mainstream venues with great sound and lighting also come with stupid bouncers. And wussy clientele.
I prefer there to be some danger around the edges.
Anyone else go to punk shows in the 80's where every. single. show. someone broke the bathroom? Seemed like a couple times a month a good leg or arm breaking as well. That kind of violence and disregard for safety breeds a different kind of scene. Well, there were also a lot of hard drugs too.
One of the worst shows I ever attended was Babyland (and some other derivative goth band) at House of Usher in San Francisco. A huge venue in south of market with a massive club music oriented sound system. A reason Babyland was very enthusiastic about playing.
Well about halfway through their set the promoters put the kabosh on the performance. They had an oil drum on stage with stuff on fire in it, and they were banging on it. You know, early 90's industrial tropes. Stuff they were well known for doing. Then the promoters spray a fire extinguisher in the can, point blank. Which launches shit everywhere. Luckily it did not turn into a rapid conflagration and instead just ended up staining the acoustic treatment. Which they tried to blame the band for!
The ended up tossing the band and equipment out of the club. No pay.
Hilariously one of the promoter/booker people shouted something to the effect 'its not 77 anymore you punks!'.
When I saw the same band at some warehouse in Northridge a year or so earlier it was much better. Even with the shitty Peavey PA.
I'm so sick of being called a sociopath by feminists, it's like their favorite buzzword. They don't know what the word means, they base it off of whether or not your positions align with theirs, it makes me feel like trolling the everloving fuck out of them. Except what's really the difference between speaking honestly to a feminist or just trolling them? You can say honest things and it will have the same effect, there's not even a need to troll, so that's what I will do even more. It hurts my feelings when people say that I'm a "sociopath", which btw, seems insulting, because I bet there's a lot of so called sociopaths who don't even hurt anyone.
Honestly, I was trying to be friends with this person on a PC gaming network site, then they said they read a post from my tumblr, and they went on this big rant about how I'm a scum bag, should have been aborted, just all this horrible rude nasty shit. Honestly, it hurts my feelings, when I reach out to someone and want to be their friend, then they pull this nasty buzzword laden crap on me. I guess I'm glad that I didn't actually accept anyone's offer on that feminism forum when a few of them reached out and said they would be my friend. That's the last thing I want to be, is friends with a feminist.
You can't even say feminism is about rights for everyone, it has a gendered prefix in front of it. It's either about rights for women, which is fine, or it's about freedom from "the patriarchy" and oppression from men, who are like some omnipresent devil to some of them. Egalitarianism and humanism are really the only ideologies that make sense, in terms of progressive ideologies.
So, I'm going to try to go over this again, just because I want to make sure I am extra clear about it. I "feel bad" for "people like brock turner", "the rapist". I think it sucks that anyone was "born into this society", and I really don't dislike someone unless they're "really fucking stupid and obnoxious". Being a rapist doesn't automatically make you "really fucking stupid and obnoxious". I think we're all animals, I don't think there's good and bad animals, there's no ultimate good and bad in anything. Everything simply is what it is, and I also believe in determinism, which is to say that things are what they are because it's the order of the universe and it's physical laws. That is not fucking "condoning rape". I do not "condone rape". I am not some dirt bag who thinks it's really great that brock turner went and raped a girl, I just "don't fucking care". I think there's plenty of criminals who do bad things, but aren't unintelligent obnoxious pieces of shit like the guy who built that giant fucking Arc, a testament to human ignorance.
And I went over this with the feminist, at greater length than I'm going into right now. I could pull out verbatim what I said to her, but that would be a waste of time, I gave you the gist of it. I wanted to like feminists, I really did, because feminists and I agree on a lot of issues. I just can't get over how fucking stupid they are, but I know that not all of them are like that (at least, I'd imagine that they're not all like that, because you can't generalize an entire group of people).
Quote from: oOoOoOo on July 15, 2016, 03:24:13 PM
I'm so sick of being called a sociopath by feminists, it's like their favorite buzzword.
do you really care what these ladies have to say?
they are a disfunctional religious cult that has power only in specific underground ghettos.
just change scene, and avoid them and show them your genitalia whenever they hassle you. you'll give them one more reason to complain, but at least you will show them you have balls and you don't care.
That's a good point. I wasn't specifically looking for feminists on this gaming network, it was just this person who has good taste in music. I added her and she stalked my tumblr and decided she hates me.
suggest her to check for bbc on pornhub and she might get a life.
So, apparently google removed Dennis Cooper's blog. I wonder if it actually had anything illegal on it or if google is just taking away people's freedom of speech https://www.blogger.com/blogin.g?blogspotURL=http%3A%2F%2Fdenniscooper-theweaklings.blogspot.co.uk%2F&bpli=1&pli=1
And you know that no one's going to raise awareness of this, because Dennis Cooper is a subversive artist.
http://fusion.net/story/325231/google-deletes-dennis-cooper-blog/
This is fucking annoying.
Quote from: oOoOoOo on July 15, 2016, 05:15:57 PM
So, apparently google removed Dennis Cooper's blog. I wonder if it actually had anything illegal on it or if google is just taking away people's freedom of speech https://www.blogger.com/blogin.g?blogspotURL=http%3A%2F%2Fdenniscooper-theweaklings.blogspot.co.uk%2F&bpli=1&pli=1
And you know that no one's going to raise awareness of this, because Dennis Cooper is a subversive artist.
http://fusion.net/story/325231/google-deletes-dennis-cooper-blog/
This is fucking annoying.
no this is fucking annoying.
Google is a search engine that has a lot of other components such as blogging sites, cloud hosted office apps etc.
They aren't the fucking government. That they choose not to host content is not infringing on anyone's freedom of speech. It's just saying get the hell off of my front porch.
When I have been a webmaster or forum admin for various sites I've had to deal with this. People seem to think they are entitled to everything on the internet, forever. And if you turn off their account or restrict their access to the site which YOU pay the bills for, they freak the fuck out.
As far as Dennis Cooper specifically. Zero sympathy for someone who trusts over a decade of work to blogger and has zero backups. If he gives a damn about his own work he owes it to himself to get his house in order. Behaving the same as someone who blogs about stamp collecting or pictures of cats wearing hats belies a lack of seriousness, or just utter ineptitude.
If the art you present is even mildly offensive, do not trust all of it to one online presence. And certainly do not do so without any backups.
It is a well known behavior of corporations, especially internet corps, to play 'cover your ass'. They make employees and even potential employees sign NDAs. They trademark and copyright everything under the sun. And they overreact about sexual content.
Well, that's a good point. I concede to that point of view, but I still feel bad for Dennis Cooper, and I imagine that the reason they removed it was probably dumb. I don't fault Dennis Cooper for making such a careless mistake, I feel bad for him because I can't imagine how he must feel losing such a large amount of his life's work, which is also his livelyhood.
The coup in turkey failed :(
well
big powers need much more effort than those used with Arab spings to cange things...
Turkey is not like the middle east and Erdogan has far more supporters than slef-styled dictators that were thrown down in the past three years.
Quote from: tiny_tove on July 16, 2016, 04:51:19 PM
well
big powers need much more effort than those used with Arab spings to cange things...
Turkey is not like the middle east and Erdogan has far more supporters than slef-styled dictators that were thrown down in the past three years.
Indeed, a coup just for laughs. Did they expect to take the power in a such big state, with its leader having 50% support for a long time, by 2000 soldiers force, who most of them did not have clear orders to use violence or they were simply too scared to do so ?! A joke ! Still they were close ! If they had closed every TV channel down, they could have better luck ...
the fun part Erdogan using social networks to call for action :)))
ffs that Erdogan was able to land at Ataturk int'l demonstrates that the coup did not have very broad support even in the military. I certainly hope it does not devolve into a civil war. It seems to have blown over now, but that would have been the worst possible outcome.
QuoteMore than 1,800 women signed up to pose, and that's a testament to how they're brave art warriors.
total cmnf worship
One Hundred Women Took Off Their Clothes in Cleveland To Protest The RNC
*fatty warning
Whether or not the nude picture of women in Cleveland was a good protest, I believe it's good to capture expressions which are rare and unusual. It seems like one of the most delicate pleasures in life is experiencing aesthetics which are rare and unusual. I say, the more we break the monotony of the world around us, the better.
Oh what the hell, this thread is practically the off topic thread anyways. I wanted to post this somewhere, but I figure why not here. I saw a play last night, it was the play billy elliot. It was a fantastic play, it really tugged on my heart on numerous occasions. The beauty of the contrast between the young dancer and the civil unrest in britain was beautiful, it showed how a boy's pure self expression was more beautiful than the bigotry which surrounded him. I thought to myself, this shows the passion and beauty of dancing and the arts, the young boy's love of dancing when his father instead wanted him to do boxing, and all the homophobic ignorance surrounding him. It was inspirational to me, at times I almost wanted to cry, and wonder if I corrupt my own mind by not allowing myself, I didn't even once. There was also precious moments in the play, where the dancer boy's friend turned out to be gay and love cross dressing, and it was important that the lead character billy elliot not be gay himself, because it sent a message that you don't have to be gay to like things that others may seem to be gay and girly, and yet he still maintained his friendship with his gay friend, and it touched me so deeply when they would give each other a kiss as a sign of affectionate friendship.
It's not like me to feel so moved by a play, nor one that comes along that I bother seeing which has such issues about sexuality and art. The previous play I saw was absolutely ghastly. It was a play called In The Heights. It was in a poor town, where all the people seemed to me to be nothing more than ants, crawling around in their shabby insignificant town. The plot was deeply, severely contrived. The characters were dopey and had little redeeming values about them. There was this very disturbing overtone of belief in god, and the one thing that saved all of them from their poverty was one of the town members winner the lottery. What a fatally superficial twist of events, the lottery is as silly and shallow as they come. Yet, that's what it reflected of the character's lives. I felt as though I may as well have been reading Kafka, but in a very strange and un-self aware, ironic kafka, with an even more painful twist of tragic irony. Unware, tragic irony, is exactly how I would summarize that play, In The Heights. Not only was it absolutely ghastly, but there was one part of it which bothered me very much. A girl who's parents were trying to get her into college dropped out, and she came back and her parents were in such dismay, because college was the only way she could escape her poor town. They, of course, resolved that problem with another superficially and unsatisfying resolution; sending her back to college with the fucking lottery money, of course. She never liked college in the first place, and I don't like it either.
watching the GOP stiffs whine about political correctness. It is possibly more annoying than listening to an actual politically correct person.
At least the PC police have a grain of truth behind what they are bitching about.
Minority groups are usually disadvantaged or abused. Women and gay people do get a lot of stupid bullshit coming their way.
I just disagree with a lot of the PC 'solutions' to these problems.
Now these republicans whining about the bogeyman of political correctness, while they are the same people who are making a killing on Wall st, and are all living very comfortably with their children well provided for.
Yeah, PC is what bothers you. Not the specter of a non-white future.
Quote from: calaverasgrande on July 19, 2016, 05:59:15 AM
watching the GOP stiffs whine about political correctness. It is possibly more annoying than listening to an actual politically correct person.
At least the PC police have a grain of truth behind what they are bitching about.
Minority groups are usually disadvantaged or abused. Women and gay people do get a lot of stupid bullshit coming their way.
I just disagree with a lot of the PC 'solutions' to these problems.
Now these republicans whining about the bogeyman of political correctness, while they are the same people who are making a killing on Wall st, and are all living very comfortably with their children well provided for.
Yeah, PC is what bothers you. Not the specter of a non-white future.
some UNPC people are as annoying as PC.
my issue is not with the problem, but with minorities attempting to solve specific problems by blaming false targets with the "F" word.
the Church us very politically incorrect on many stances but I do not (always) agree with their approach.
Quote from: tiny_tove on July 19, 2016, 09:33:30 AM
Quote from: calaverasgrande on July 19, 2016, 05:59:15 AM
watching the GOP stiffs whine about political correctness. It is possibly more annoying than listening to an actual politically correct person.
At least the PC police have a grain of truth behind what they are bitching about.
Minority groups are usually disadvantaged or abused. Women and gay people do get a lot of stupid bullshit coming their way.
I just disagree with a lot of the PC 'solutions' to these problems.
Now these republicans whining about the bogeyman of political correctness, while they are the same people who are making a killing on Wall st, and are all living very comfortably with their children well provided for.
Yeah, PC is what bothers you. Not the specter of a non-white future.
some UNPC people are as annoying as PC.
my issue is not with the problem, but with minorities attempting to solve specific problems by blaming false targets with the "F" word.
the Church us very politically incorrect on many stances but I do not (always) agree with their approach.
I think the problem with a lot of the radically anti-PC people is that they're just as sensitive as the, admittedly fucking retarded, Politically correct movement that they criticise for being too sensitive.
For example: A mixed race couple on TV = OUTRAGE
Which is exactly the same reaction that the PC fucktards have when they DON'T see a mixed race couple on TV. Frankly I think the best solution is to just to have a good laugh at both sides.
Quote from: Duality on July 21, 2016, 10:05:11 PM
Frankly I think the best solution is to just to have a good laugh at both sides.
This is true, but it's hard to actually laugh when both sides are constantly everywhere and are becoming increasingly irritating.
It seems like everything has an agenda attached to it. Nothing can just be benign and left alone.
Quote from: PTM Jim on July 21, 2016, 10:42:35 PM
Quote from: Duality on July 21, 2016, 10:05:11 PM
Frankly I think the best solution is to just to have a good laugh at both sides.
This is true, but it's hard to actually laugh when both sides are constantly everywhere and are becoming increasingly irritating.
It seems like everything has an agenda attached to it. Nothing can just be benign and left alone.
Its an inevitability. If humans weren't fighting over political correctness, We'd be fighting over religion or shoes or something else.
As for your comment about everything having an agenda, do you think its possible for something to not have an agenda? I generally remain apolitical, but even that ends up being my agenda, because everything I say on certain subjects is clouded by the fact that I think all political ideologies are stupid. It's all rather silly to me, so I just take it with a grain of salt. Just keep in mind that the smallest minority tends to scream the loudest.
Some commentator on MSNBC just compared the GOP convention to a NF convention.
I think for a lot of Americans that comparison went right by them.
It was hilariously a reference to the Ted Cruz speech on Wednesday being 'an outbreak of conservatism at a National Front convention'.
I mean why not just say what you really mean?
Quote from: Duality on July 21, 2016, 10:05:11 PMFor example: A mixed race couple on TV = OUTRAGE
Lolita should be mandatory reading on every highschool curriculum.
Quote from: Duality on July 21, 2016, 11:03:18 PM
Quote from: PTM Jim on July 21, 2016, 10:42:35 PM
Quote from: Duality on July 21, 2016, 10:05:11 PM
Frankly I think the best solution is to just to have a good laugh at both sides.
This is true, but it's hard to actually laugh when both sides are constantly everywhere and are becoming increasingly irritating.
It seems like everything has an agenda attached to it. Nothing can just be benign and left alone.
Its an inevitability. If humans weren't fighting over political correctness, We'd be fighting over religion or shoes or something else.
As for your comment about everything having an agenda, do you think its possible for something to not have an agenda? I generally remain apolitical, but even that ends up being my agenda, because everything I say on certain subjects is clouded by the fact that I think all political ideologies are stupid. It's all rather silly to me, so I just take it with a grain of salt. Just keep in mind that the smallest minority tends to scream the loudest.
I kind of worded it wrong. By agenda I more or less meant forcing beliefs on others. As opposed to believing what you want and letting others do the same.
Haha, savage :D
http://youtu.be/WCfNGxZBB-M
(to be transparent and clear, I'm in agreement with Maher)
https://youtu.be/wzUd8YrFJCk
Descendents 'Spazz hazard'– boycott their new LP (http://stayuplate.org/descendents-spazz-hazard-boycott-new-lp/)
this is the problem with a lot of activist types. They see everything as a series of problems that need to be corrected. It's not your world to fix mr punk rocker. Pretty sure the Descendents were being ineefectually offensive when you werent even drinking age.
That and pilloring someone for simply using a word which might be offensive? I thought we were supposed to withhold such treatment except for people who not only said nigger or spic. But also 'hang all the...'.
Just goes to show you, you can be egalitarian, PC, pro choice and a really nice guy. But if you fuck up and use the new bad word you are dog shit.
BTW one of my more PC friends informed me that 'thug' is now a racial slur.
Like I am not supposed to use it, even when someone is acting like a thug.
"We're just trying to raise awareness."
"40 years of punk undone in one album cover??"
"I did take straight to Twitter and have yet to receive a reply from the band..."
"We're calling on the band to re-name their EP and LP and make a public apology"
That article is gold. Thanks.
"40 years of punk undone in one album cover??"
If only that was possible.
Quote from: calaverasgrande on July 24, 2016, 07:46:34 AM
BTW one of my more PC friends informed me that 'thug' is now a racial slur.
Like I am not supposed to use it, even when someone is acting like a thug.
That's interesting. Is it because the word stems from the Indian Thuggee? The Thuggees were an organised gang of highwaymen in India who plagued travellers and merchants alike for 600 years until the British Raj wiped them out by applying modern police methods. One of the Empires achievements surely.
I'm a sociopath (not a psychopath, thank you very much) which is butthurt for everybody because I'm very destructive or at best boring and pretentious sounding.
Actually I don't get it, people say y'know I hate psychopaths/sociopaths they're selfish blah blah blah, but what about the elephant that tramples a small village of some African tribe, how do people feel about that elephant? You think he gives a fuck? He's just being an elephant, doing something any elephant would do. People love elephants but they'd kill you in a second!! So love the elephant not the sociopath? I'm a person, I'm closer in nature to you than some monstrous elephant, most people don't hate mad animals.
Quote from: GEWALTMONOPOL on July 24, 2016, 02:19:28 PM
"40 years of punk undone in one album cover??"
If only that was possible.
Quote from: calaverasgrande on July 24, 2016, 07:46:34 AM
BTW one of my more PC friends informed me that 'thug' is now a racial slur.
Like I am not supposed to use it, even when someone is acting like a thug.
That's interesting. Is it because the word stems from the Indian Thuggee? The Thuggees were an organised gang of highwaymen in India who plagued travellers and merchants alike for 600 years until the British Raj wiped them out by applying modern police methods. One of the Empires achievements surely.
Apparently the word 'thug' now only means black teenagers.
Which is funny because in my minds eye the word thug conjures up something like Vin Diesel as a nazi skinhead.
This is one of the things I resent about PC prohibitions on words.
I generally agree that people should not be judged merely for their race, gender or who they bang.
I resent the idea of controlling ideology through language, which is the underlying theory behind why you should not say bitch, nigger or spic.
In their view, if they can make the use of such words completely unacceptable they will also make bigotry associated with those words unacceptable.
They will only achieve people saying "I would never work for a woman" instead of "I'd never work for a bitch".
Besides, I don't remember when we all voted on which words were good or bad.
Is there a central committee of newspeak? Is it the George Orwell Memorial Committee on Language and Ideology?
Quote from: calaverasgrande on July 24, 2016, 07:46:34 AM
this is the problem with a lot of activist types. They see everything as a series of problems that need to be corrected.
Exactly.
What really kills me is that most of my life I have been on the left. An anti-marxist, anarchist left, but left nonetheless. When I was kid my parents used to take us to demonstrations and such. I even went to New College of California. A now defunct college which had an Anarchist Dean when I attended, and a very progressive curriculum.
I'm not stranger to the left.
However I actually think for myself.
I also do not read whatever magazine all these people read to stay current on the latest and greatest new bad words.
I was recently called out for saying tranny instead of trans.
I do not bear any enmity to tranny or trans people. I used to work sound in a gay club called Trannyshack. I've performed as various punk, noise and electro-industrial acts at gay clubs like the End Up.
In college I worked at a phone bank which was managed and staffed by a large number of gay and transexual people.
But I said tranny not trans. I'm now a fagbashing bigot.
To be honest, I think that this kind of language correctness stems from the practice of applying such rigid standards to politicians. I do not think it is bad to question the ideology of political figures who use words like 'nigger' or 'bitch'. They are generally supposed to be held to a higher standard, and should be well aware of the intricacies of identity, culture and race in their country.
For this same policing and denouncing to be applied to private citizens is absurd. Take your marxist purge elsewhere.
I gave up on anarchism years ago. And once you've gone that far left, there's really only one other direction you can travel, even if it's only by comparison. It's funny, though, because a lot of people who I knew who also backslid from the faith all seemed to try to go in the other opposite extreme direction, not necessarily in politics but in their own lifestyles. People go through a kind of "anti-honeymoon" stage once they renounce once deeply held beliefs.
I noticed a lot of language policing in the anarchist scene. I recall being told by an American anarchist visiting the country that the word "guys" should not be used because it's sexist, even though every kid today calls everyone "guys". So much for that endeavor, but you never know, could be the next big thing any second now.
I also first read about "calling out" in Maximum Rocknroll. It was part of their interview policy. Something about if someone in a band is saying anything they consider dodgy, "call them out on it". That always stuck in my memory for some reason. A lot of the issues I saw in punk at that time seem to have become mainstream for the current Left. The Guardian is like MRR without the music.
Quote from: Peterson on July 26, 2016, 03:48:43 AM
I think this example highlights an issue that the "thought police" Orwellian (as you put it excellently) often overlook in their crusading for the rights of various groups they might perceive as "minorities" - by reducing them to the status of something that needs their protection, they're basically implying these "groups" don't have the wherewithal to look out for themselves, which in my opinion, is basically the same as any bigotry, stereotyping, or even chip-on-your-shoulder racism.
Yes, anti-racists of that insane level are racists in denial, in fight with their instinct / mind / feelings. Sick people. A lot of complexes. Example : You call someone "black" and they are ready to attack you. "I don't think being black is something bad - you think" , you could tell them, just to make their situation even worse. Here they say them something which translates to ... "colourful" haha ! Just to not call them blacks !
In order to not be "accused" of racism, they will make still racist choices, just anyone not of their race / nation / kind.
Edit : Not "colourful" , i googled the exact translation, it's "coloured" . Also writes "of color" means "non white" , so it's not only here. Universal bullshit.
Quote from: calaverasgrande on July 25, 2016, 06:12:33 PM
What really kills me is that most of my life I have been on the left. An anti-marxist, anarchist left, but left nonetheless. When I was kid my parents used to take us to demonstrations and such. I even went to New College of California. A now defunct college which had an Anarchist Dean when I attended, and a very progressive curriculum.
I'm not stranger to the left.
However I actually think for myself.
I also do not read whatever magazine all these people read to stay current on the latest and greatest new bad words.
I was recently called out for saying tranny instead of trans.
I do not bear any enmity to tranny or trans people. I used to work sound in a gay club called Trannyshack. I've performed as various punk, noise and electro-industrial acts at gay clubs like the End Up.
In college I worked at a phone bank which was managed and staffed by a large number of gay and transexual people.
But I said tranny not trans. I'm now a fagbashing bigot.
To be honest, I think that this kind of language correctness stems from the practice of applying such rigid standards to politicians. I do not think it is bad to question the ideology of political figures who use words like 'nigger' or 'bitch'. They are generally supposed to be held to a higher standard, and should be well aware of the intricacies of identity, culture and race in their country.
For this same policing and denouncing to be applied to private citizens is absurd. Take your marxist purge elsewhere.
I totally agree with you here on your point about language. A problem I have, and it's totally my problem and not having to do with you, is that when you say this stuff - which is right anyways- there's gonna be some actual right wing bigot who rears his face and says "hey, yeah I hate fucking political correctness too, and I wanna say tranny and fag all I want". So, my personal problem that I've had with this shit is that I don't even feel comfortable critiquing the left, because I almost start to feel like I'm turning into a right winger when I do it too much.
Now, there's a real problem though, of people being way too sensitive. It's almost like a complete trade off, unless you're somewhere real special with really smart people. On one hand you got people who are overly sensitive morons who take anything you say at face value, and act like they're the morality police and stuff- real conceited and sanctimonious self righteous attitude of you ask me- and they won't choose their battles, and they won't take subtlety and nuance into account at all, they're almost as bad as bigots. On the other hand, you get people who are so jaded to insensitivity, you may as well just punch yourself in the face, because there's a lot of assholes who really just don't care about how you feel. I can say that I'm actually an extremely sensitive person, and there's definitely been numerous occasions where people have really hurt my feelings, just from taking on the internet. It sorts of perplexes me that it can even happen to me, because sometimes I may even consider myself to be an intelligent person who's above shit like that.
So, basically I think what it boils down to, is that human beings really have no fucking clue how to treat each other right either way. It'd have to be filled with such intelligent, far sighted people, we are absolutely nowhere near that level of sophistication. And come to think of it, I think back on that thing you said about being so pro lgbt, but then being a fagbashing bigot as soon as you use the word tranny, you can prep yourself as much as you want, I can prep myself as much as I want, nothing will prepare you for the unpredictable stupidity of all the god damn morons who inhabit this earth. God damn it, sometimes I just wish that I could carry around a baseball bat with me, and just whack anyone upside the head who's a moron. Too bad I spend most of my time on the internet and that's not even a realistic portrayal of my life. Fuck.
Be careful what you say online, then.
Quote from: oOoOoOo on July 26, 2016, 07:26:27 AM
Hell, people are so fucking sensitive, you know what happened to me last month? I was on facebook and I made this comment on a whim that I totally forgot about, then like a week later the police arrived at my door. They asked me about the comment I made about respecting anyone that goes and shoots up a school, and saying I wished all schools were destroyed. They went and called my parents and shit, even though I'm in my 20s and live alone, they fucked came to my door and asked to come inside so they could question me, and called up my fucking parents. All because some dumb cunt from California or something decided that it was pretty fucking scary that someone expressed that they hate school and love school shooters. People are so fucking dumb and ignorant.
well. you have been lucky you live in a free country like America where cops politely knock at your door.
Quote from: oOoOoOo on July 26, 2016, 06:03:31 PM
But no, I don't really wanna talk about the police thing.
that was the most interesting bit.
I used to be a vociferous and zealous anti racist myself.
Growing up in the deep south I dealt with a lot of racism in society. I am not black myself, but most of my friends have been black since a very young age. It was just a result of being a white kid in a black part of town. I've been beat up by other white kids for being a 'nigger lover' and actually told by cops not to hang out with 'those people'.
When I started seeing nazi skins at punk shows I easily bought in to the Anti-Racist-Action thing. We used to go around confronting nazi skinheads and getting in brawls with them at punk and metal shows.
I got beat up pretty bad a few times. We beat them up pretty bad a few times.
On one hand this is a bit better than being a whiny PC word police piece of shit. It is actually putting your money where your mouth is and trying to do something. It certainly takes more courage to pick a fight with a nazi than it does to tell some guy at a show not to say 'insert uncool slur here'. But after a while I realized the ARA and the skinheads were self justifying. The nazi skins fed off of our confrontations. If we prevailed, they were martyrs. If they prevailed they could drink and stay up late gloating about it. Nobody was moving ideologically because they got their nose broken. And frankly, those nazi skins were fucking pussies when it came to fighting.
I've come to believe that problems like racism and gay bashing arise because people tend to clump in group of similar sorts. I've tried to avoid this, so I hang out with gay, black, latino, asian whatever. If I feel uncomfortable with something I confront it. I've hung out with Mexican gangbangers. I've played at gay clubs.
I also have friends that are in right wing militias and a few Muslim friends. Cum bay yah I'm the fucking UN.
My point is that you can't beat up racism, and you can't criticize it away.
That whole word police thing just makes the accuser feel good and accomplishes zero.
Quote from: calaverasgrande on July 27, 2016, 02:32:23 AM
most of my friends have been black since a very young age. It was just a result of being a white kid in a black part of town.
They started out white?
yeah, LeMarkian evolution.
:P
let's get back to good ol' pc butturt
http://decibelmagazine.com/blog/2016/6/16/9mzcuve2lxufa4wjsmziaqxz2f7ckl
Quote from: tiny_tove on July 27, 2016, 05:52:29 PM
let's get back to good ol' pc butturt
http://decibelmagazine.com/blog/2016/6/16/9mzcuve2lxufa4wjsmziaqxz2f7ckl
A bit old, but still gold! Anyways over the years it's been extremely amusing to see the change of Imperial from total black metal hatemonger to a leftist, antifa-asslicking, politically correct wimp.
Grim black metal still exists even in the age of niggerloving, life afirmation...
-Neill Jameson 2003
Antifa have done some good things, like exposing politicians for nationalist beliefs and working towards positive social change.
-Neill Jameson 2016
That's the Krieg fella, right? He who recruited Thurston Moore to play in his band. I don't think anything else needs to be said about him.
Woman alleges she was 'sexually assaulted' by Wee Wee toy in hibachi restaurant
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http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2016/07/28/woman-alleges-was-sexually-assaulted-by-peeing-toy-in-hibachi-restaurant/
yeah that is one of the things that turned me off to ARA or I guess they call themselves antifa now.
Pulling spectacular bonehead stunts like setting off teargas/pepper spray at shows?
God that is way too familiar.
BTW if this happens to you, baking soda is your friend. Yeah, I've had to deal with it that many times.
There is also this stupid revolving door of nazi/anti-nazi characters with colorful names (no pun intended) like 'Chunk' or 'Raven'.
Bunch of glory seeking vain bitches. If you solved all the problems causing conflict between people in the world the anti-fascists and skinheads would have nothing to do.
Oh and dont start on the "skinheads arent racist, real skinheads are two tone". Never met a skinhead that didnt love them some Skrewdriver, and had a few good nigger jokes.
BTW my favorite way to piss off anarchists and antifa dramaqueens is to go on their forums and write 'Black Block' instead of the hip trendy eurostyle 'Black Bloc'.
People will actually piss themselves over that.
Then you get to explain how, in English, we spell this word 'block'. You can roll right up to the edge of Donald Trump style xenophobia with this. It's funnier than hell. Then start into explaining how Socialism and Fascism are identical.
f000000m...
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/bikini-clad-undercover-officer-goes-viral-after-sharing-picture-of-unusual-arrest/ar-BBv1j2a?li=AA9SkIr&ocid=spartandhp
bet he still go a hard on
Quote from: Duncan on July 04, 2016, 09:04:57 PM
Quote from: calaverasgrande on July 03, 2016, 01:56:06 AM
Compare US airport security to Israel or Iraq.
I got fucked with a little bit on the way back from Israel having done a load of shows out there.
They asked me about 15mins worth of questions and had me demonstrate how my gear worked and even explain what experimental music was. Pretty minor stuff and being a polite, smiling boy of Anglo Celtic origin I was just able to answer honestly and move on, proud of having more or less played a short gig in Ben Gurion Airport security, but I can only imagine how difficult that would have been for someone of a different background. Every. Single. Person of any kind of colour or 'interesting' ethnicity was getting herded off to be asked questions by gun wielding youths fresh out of national service.
I was struck with how attractive many of them were though. One particularly sullen lady slapped on a rubber glove in true naughty nurse style, looking me dead in the eye as she rifled through my bag. I think it was meant to frighten me but had an altogether different effect which I took home with me forever.
this is some of the best shit i've read in a while, really. love it.
yeah those gingers sure are hot tempered.
True fact, most redheads dont feel anesthesia.
I read this somewhere and didnt believe it so I went and asked the two redheads I work with.
The cranky old jewish redhead and the huge boobed ginger assistant manager. They both confirmed it.
Plus, boooobs.
The last girl I fucked was a ginger and she was pretty hot tempered and stubborn but pretty good in bed, I'll have to ask her about the anesthesia thing.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-08-02/vegetarians-vegans-hated-bullied-australia-richard-cornish/7680900 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-08-02/vegetarians-vegans-hated-bullied-australia-richard-cornish/7680900)
Quote from: Fluid Fetish on August 02, 2016, 12:34:23 AM
The last girl I fucked was a ginger and she was pretty hot tempered and stubborn but pretty good in bed, I'll have to ask her about the anesthesia thing.
I was involved with the most ginger of ginger girls for years and have relatives that are also ginners.All of those things you hear about what their bodies do compared to others are bollocks. The thing about them needing 25% more anaesthesia is kind of a half truth. They are more receptive and respond faster to hot and cold temperatures,as does anyone with really pale skin.
The two things about them that are confirmed to be true by doctors and clergymen everywhere are that they indeed don't have souls, and that all ginger girls demand anal on a first date.
it is kind of funny how we assign arbitrary sexual stuff to hair color.
Redheads I've fooled around with did not have hotter vags or behave 'wild' in bed.
Most likely to starfish if anything.
Asians I've banged were not tighter or slanted or anything. And all gave shitty head.
Blondes I've humped did not have nicer pubes or anything like that.
Heck this one skinny girl who I used to fuck behind her boyfriends back had this narrow little waist and this tiny body. But her vag was like a tardis, bigger on the inside. My buddy who also fucked her said it wasn't like throwing a hot dog down a hallway. It was like throwing an actual dog off a cliff.
The only true generalizations I've come up with are that white and mexican girls are all fucking whores. Not only will they do anything in bed, they will fuck around on their main dude no problem.
Quote from: calaverasgrande on August 04, 2016, 07:09:01 AM
it is kind of funny how we assign arbitrary sexual stuff to hair color.
Redheads I've fooled around with did not have hotter vags or behave 'wild' in bed.
Most likely to starfish if anything.
Asians I've banged were not tighter or slanted or anything. And all gave shitty head.
Blondes I've humped did not have nicer pubes or anything like that.
Heck this one skinny girl who I used to fuck behind her boyfriends back had this narrow little waist and this tiny body. But her vag was like a tardis, bigger on the inside. My buddy who also fucked her said it wasn't like throwing a hot dog down a hallway. It was like throwing an actual dog off a cliff.
The only true generalizations I've come up with are that white and mexican girls are all fucking whores. Not only will they do anything in bed, they will fuck around on their main dude no problem.
This was the first red head/ginger I've ever slept with and she was really good at being on top but definitely was not wild or kinky at all in the least as most people describe red heads....just mentally and personality wise had a lot of piss and vinegar and also was more then willing to rampantly cheat on her trust fund boyfriend with me, sometimes flirting with me or grabbing my dick right in front of the guy when he wasn't looking even, although for a 22 year old slutty college girl not too unusual behavior. Unfortunately she did not demand anal on the first date nor did she like anal at all, she actually wouldn't even let me lick her asshole. Oh well, can't have it all.
Most wild and sexually insane girl I've ever been with was a young Lakota Sioux native girl who had raped by her own dad (go figure) when she was 9, this girl would do ANYTHING and was willing to do anything and was completely submissive. I got this girl to drink another girl's piss straight from the source in front of me in my bath tub while I was fucking her, she was more then willing to do analingus, she'd let me cut her over and over and over and lick the blood all off of her. The relationship was a joke but best sex ever. I've never believed in the whole hair color relating to sexual characteristics thing to be honest. Now race, ethnicity, and cultural background DOES seem to have an influence. Never slept with an Asian girl but Asian porn is typically SO fucking boring, it's almost always reminds me of watching what sex was like for me when I was 15 and had no idea what I was doing....
I'll tell you what really gets me butthurt; when people always try to get you to spend time chatting with them on skype. Why should I spend time just chatting aimlessly for hours, when there's nothing to even set out talking about? That's literally hours of my day, time I could be spending doing anything else, spent with them. And you know what the punchline is? It's not even that fun, it just leaves you with your brain feeling overworked for trying to think of things to say, or just wishing you could do other things.
Lemme tell you about this girl who just messaged me telling me she wants to chat. I have a way with people, I am really blunt in my honesty, because the way I see it being honest is one of the most transgressive things you can possible be in this society. I told this girl, "I'm not really in the mood for just chatting all the time, seriously no offense but I generally don't chat that often with people on skype. Every once and a while is okay either way." and she tells me "if your fine with me being less interested in you because of this". What the fuck is this coercive behavior? Last time I was this blunt with someone, it was telling this guy on steam who keeps hitting on me I don't like to be hit on, and he removed me, but why do I have to be all of a sudden accountable for how much time I spend with a person? You have no idea how much I hate it when people do this.
So, I'm sure I'm not alone in feeling this way. I know this isn't some delusional fantasy inside my head, there must be millions or possibly billions of other people who don't like to be bothered. Seriously, I could be discovering new art, listening to new music, reading a book (which I often do every single day), anything other than just idol chit chat with someone. Seriously seriously seriously seriously seriously, and you know what the worst part of it is? It's always online, the only place where people ever want to talk is online. Seriously, I don't want to spend time sitting around with my headset and microphone talking to my computer, for fuck sake. Maybe it would be worth while if I was, say, talking to some friends in person, I don't know. At least then it wouldn't feel like talking to a god damn computer. People in today's world have become much too dependent on the internet and it's disgusting, the internet and computer as we know it is disgusting. It has immeasurable benefits, but it's also disgusting, in the way it's effect us humans on an individual level. We've become a hybrid society of human and internet.
Quote from: oOoOoOo on August 05, 2016, 09:36:10 PM
I'll tell you what really gets me butthurt; when people always try to get you to spend time chatting with them on skype. Why should I spend time just chatting aimlessly for hours, when there's nothing to even set out talking about? That's literally hours of my day, time I could be spending doing anything else, spent with them. And you know what the punchline is? It's not even that fun, it just leaves you with your brain feeling overworked for trying to think of things to say, or just wishing you could do other things.
Lemme tell you about this girl who just messaged me telling me she wants to chat. I have a way with people, I am really blunt in my honesty, because the way I see it being honest is one of the most transgressive things you can possible be in this society. I told this girl, "I'm not really in the mood for just chatting all the time, seriously no offense but I generally don't chat that often with people on skype. Every once and a while is okay either way." and she tells me "if your fine with me being less interested in you because of this". What the fuck is this coercive behavior? Last time I was this blunt with someone, it was telling this guy on steam who keeps hitting on me I don't like to be hit on, and he removed me, but why do I have to be all of a sudden accountable for how much time I spend with a person? You have no idea how much I hate it when people do this.
So, I'm sure I'm not alone in feeling this way. I know this isn't some delusional fantasy inside my head, there must be millions or possibly billions of other people who don't like to be bothered. Seriously, I could be discovering new art, listening to new music, reading a book (which I often do every single day), anything other than just idol chit chat with someone. Seriously seriously seriously seriously seriously, and you know what the worst part of it is? It's always online, the only place where people ever want to talk is online. Seriously, I don't want to spend time sitting around with my headset and microphone talking to my computer, for fuck sake. Maybe it would be worth while if I was, say, talking to some friends in person, I don't know. At least then it wouldn't feel like talking to a god damn computer. People in today's world have become much too dependent on the internet and it's disgusting, the internet and computer as we know it is disgusting. It has immeasurable benefits, but it's also disgusting, in the way it's effect us humans on an individual level. We've become a hybrid society of human and internet.
Surely you are not serious with this post and are now choosing to subversively troll this forum with this drivel?! If by chanced you are not and this is somehow serious; for arguments sake if started your own blog to put this shit up on (as already suggested by others), a link to said blog would then be the perfect definition of an on topic post/ link for this thread. Get it now, or is that not clear enough?
This thread, or any others for that matter, are not for you to spam with every fucking thought in your head. You know the aimless small talk you so despise above - that is how I imagine most on the forum takes your posts.
Quote from: re:evolution on August 06, 2016, 12:47:58 AM
Quote from: oOoOoOo on August 05, 2016, 09:36:10 PM
I'll tell you what really gets me butthurt; when people always try to get you to spend time chatting with them on skype. Why should I spend time just chatting aimlessly for hours, when there's nothing to even set out talking about? That's literally hours of my day, time I could be spending doing anything else, spent with them. And you know what the punchline is? It's not even that fun, it just leaves you with your brain feeling overworked for trying to think of things to say, or just wishing you could do other things.
Lemme tell you about this girl who just messaged me telling me she wants to chat. I have a way with people, I am really blunt in my honesty, because the way I see it being honest is one of the most transgressive things you can possible be in this society. I told this girl, "I'm not really in the mood for just chatting all the time, seriously no offense but I generally don't chat that often with people on skype. Every once and a while is okay either way." and she tells me "if your fine with me being less interested in you because of this". What the fuck is this coercive behavior? Last time I was this blunt with someone, it was telling this guy on steam who keeps hitting on me I don't like to be hit on, and he removed me, but why do I have to be all of a sudden accountable for how much time I spend with a person? You have no idea how much I hate it when people do this.
So, I'm sure I'm not alone in feeling this way. I know this isn't some delusional fantasy inside my head, there must be millions or possibly billions of other people who don't like to be bothered. Seriously, I could be discovering new art, listening to new music, reading a book (which I often do every single day), anything other than just idol chit chat with someone. Seriously seriously seriously seriously seriously, and you know what the worst part of it is? It's always online, the only place where people ever want to talk is online. Seriously, I don't want to spend time sitting around with my headset and microphone talking to my computer, for fuck sake. Maybe it would be worth while if I was, say, talking to some friends in person, I don't know. At least then it wouldn't feel like talking to a god damn computer. People in today's world have become much too dependent on the internet and it's disgusting, the internet and computer as we know it is disgusting. It has immeasurable benefits, but it's also disgusting, in the way it's effect us humans on an individual level. We've become a hybrid society of human and internet.
Surely you are not serious with this post and are now choosing to subversively troll this forum with this drivel?! If by chanced you are not and this is somehow serious; for arguments sake if started your own blog to put this shit up on (as already suggested by others), a link to said blog would then be the perfect definition of an on topic post/ link for this thread. Get it now, or is that not clear enough?
This thread, or any others for that matter, are not for you to spam with every fucking thought in your head. You know the aimless small talk you so despise above - that is how I imagine most on the forum takes your posts.
People'll have a problem with you no matter what you do, no one actually likes anyone unless you pretend really hard to be likeable, even then it's not guaranteed. Being liked and respectable is a tenuous and exhaustive game. And I'd put it on my blog, but the friend I'm complaining about is possibly on that blog, and idk it makes me uncomfortable.
Quote from: oOoOoOo on August 05, 2016, 09:36:10 PMWe've become a hybrid society of human and internet.
Stop crying - get a life.
Quote from: anomalie on August 06, 2016, 01:16:11 AM
Quote from: oOoOoOo on August 05, 2016, 09:36:10 PMWe've become a hybrid society of human and internet.
Stop crying - get a life.
Were it so easy. It's clear to me though, that you're not talking to me on the grounds of whether or not I actually go and get a life, you're angry at me that I'm shitting up this forum with a lot of out of place thoughts that no one is interested to see. Well, a lot of times people aren't clear with the reasons that they're angry, but fortunately I can sense it on this forum almost as if it was a 6th sense. I'm aware that I'm bothering some of you, and to be honest I apologize for it. Sometimes, it just becomes such a depressing burden trying to care about norms though, so I tend to push the boundaries a bit. I suppose I could try to tone it down a bit, I'm sure that it's annoying to some people.
Quote from: oOoOoOo on August 06, 2016, 01:41:55 AM
Quote from: anomalie on August 06, 2016, 01:16:11 AM
Quote from: oOoOoOo on August 05, 2016, 09:36:10 PMWe've become a hybrid society of human and internet.
Stop crying - get a life.
Were it so easy. It's clear to me though, that you're not talking to me on the grounds of whether or not I actually go and get a life, you're angry at me that I'm shitting up this forum with a lot of out of place thoughts that no one is interested to see. Well, a lot of times people aren't clear with the reasons that they're angry, but fortunately I can sense it on this forum almost as if it was a 6th sense. I'm aware that I'm bothering some of you, and to be honest I apologize for it. Sometimes, it just becomes such a depressing burden trying to care about norms though, so I tend to push the boundaries a bit. I suppose I could try to tone it down a bit, I'm sure that it's annoying to some people.
The rules of this forum are simple. It is for specific discussion on specific genres and styles of music, and some discussion of related themes. Personal chit chat is kept to a minimum. How hard is this concept to get?! Stick to the rules and you are welcome here. Also, don't act the martyr and claim you are being chased out of another forum, like some of your other posts have indicated.
if we ignore him he might go away.
let's do that.
LOL. oh man, it hurts, life really fucking sucks.
Quote from: oOoOoOo on August 06, 2016, 01:41:55 AM
Were it so easy. It's clear to me though, that you're not talking to me on the grounds of whether or not I actually go and get a life, you're angry at me that I'm shitting up this forum with a lot of out of place thoughts that no one is interested to see. Well, a lot of times people aren't clear with the reasons that they're angry, but fortunately I can sense it on this forum almost as if it was a 6th sense. I'm aware that I'm bothering some of you, and to be honest I apologize for it. Sometimes, it just becomes such a depressing burden trying to care about norms though, so I tend to push the boundaries a bit. I suppose I could try to tone it down a bit, I'm sure that it's annoying to some people.
Do you buy any noise records at all?
Quote from: tiny_tove on August 06, 2016, 11:42:56 AM
Quote from: oOoOoOo on August 06, 2016, 01:41:55 AM
Were it so easy. It's clear to me though, that you're not talking to me on the grounds of whether or not I actually go and get a life, you're angry at me that I'm shitting up this forum with a lot of out of place thoughts that no one is interested to see. Well, a lot of times people aren't clear with the reasons that they're angry, but fortunately I can sense it on this forum almost as if it was a 6th sense. I'm aware that I'm bothering some of you, and to be honest I apologize for it. Sometimes, it just becomes such a depressing burden trying to care about norms though, so I tend to push the boundaries a bit. I suppose I could try to tone it down a bit, I'm sure that it's annoying to some people.
Do you buy any noise records at all?
Yeah lol. I'm a pretty big noise fan.
Others have told you this before, i ll tell you once again cause i think it's the best advice you could get and pretty easy to do. Close the fucking internet / PC / phone for a week and think about yourself with yourself. Write a book, do whatever you want to express your butthurtism, just not on this forum. Enough is enough, for me. Strangely enough seems you found enough tolerance here and you are exploiting it.
http://www.christiantoday.com/article/swedish.church.to.use.drones.to.drop.thousands.of.bibles.in.isis.controlled.iraq/92438.htm
(https://sharpiron.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/warrior-jesus.jpg)
If you cannot get Salafites towelheads with lead, get them by smashing their heads with bibles used as bricks.
Quote from: oOoOoOo on August 06, 2016, 03:11:39 PM
Do you buy any noise records at all?
Yeah lol. I'm a pretty big noise fan.
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why don't you never talk about it?
you write pretty well, and this is the right space for that.
He has been kicked out, for obvious reasons.
Wow, I'm guilty of the long winded-prattling on and the run on sentence thing as well admittedly but....as time has gone on I've also noticed the guy never talks about music/noise and every post usually is the running in circles thing. Oh well.
Quote from: tiny_tove on August 06, 2016, 09:07:53 PM
http://www.christiantoday.com/article/swedish.church.to.use.drones.to.drop.thousands.of.bibles.in.isis.controlled.iraq/92438.htm
IS scum will probably make having or even looking at one a capital offence and just kill more people.
Interesting site, that. I thought this was cute -
http://www.christiantoday.com/article/10.million.bibles.reach.china.ministry.says.its.a.miracle.jesus.himself.decided.to.be.our.fundraiser/92431.htm (http://www.christiantoday.com/article/10.million.bibles.reach.china.ministry.says.its.a.miracle.jesus.himself.decided.to.be.our.fundraiser/92431.htm)
QuoteThe Lord Jesus Himself decided to be our fundraiser.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXCh9OhDiCI
I'm surprised it's a bunch of Swedish Christians. I thouht us Americans had a patent on sticking our foot long christian dick where it doesnt belong.
I'm sure being the diligent fuckers they are, they probably actually had it printed in Arabic too.
Quote from: Fluid Fetish on August 07, 2016, 02:01:35 AM
Wow, I'm guilty of the long winded-prattling on and the run on sentence thing as well admittedly but....as time has gone on I've also noticed the guy never talks about music/noise and every post usually is the running in circles thing. Oh well.
To talk extensively about
noise is probably what some would file under "long winded-prattling" anyways. That is not the problem.
He has been told via private messages and on the forum more than once. He has been forwarded forum guidelines.
In history of forum, I guess 2 guys have been kicked out.
If someone wants to rant endlessly non-related off-topic, that's what they can do at blog, facebook or whatever.
It is not to be done in forum as it leads to same results we have seen in other forums before.
This forum is first and foremost for noise/experimental and lets say "cultural interests" loosely connected to it.
As funny as this "butthurt" topic can be sometimes, I'd rather see talk about what
good noise tape someone recommends or unusual book, movie or art than just another
b u l l s h i t n e w s l i n k of click hungry trash-media about
feminist saying stupid thing about chauvinist saying stupid thing being mad about feminist saying stupid thing about men or whatever other popular subjects we have in this current climate. I'm fine with being entertained, ....but fuck. There are so many things in life, that should be matters of utmost importance. Things that stimulate the.... hmm.. should I say special interests?
When spending time in posting yet another tabloid news bs link, I urge to consider if this is the direction one wants to go. I'd rather suggest to open NEW FORCES #5 and NOISE RECEPTOR #4 than click open some
quality british tabloid journalism.
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on August 07, 2016, 11:05:35 AMAs funny as this "butthurt" topic can be sometimes, I'd rather see talk about what good noise tape someone recommends or unusual book, movie or art than just another b u l l s h i t n e w s l i n k of click hungry trash-media about feminist saying stupid thing about chauvinist saying stupid thing being mad about feminist saying stupid thing about men or whatever other popular subjects we have in this current climate. I'm fine with being entertained, ....but fuck. There are so many things in life, that should be matters of utmost importance. Things that stimulate the.... hmm.. should I say special interests?
this is the butthurt thread, pal.
learn the rules.
I see another user with message history of clever one-liners and zero talk of noise.
Hip hop forums are elsewhere.
I have been recommended by many to clean up forum a bit, and I guess it could be started just about here.
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on August 07, 2016, 11:25:45 AM
I see another user with message history of clever one-liners and zero talk of noise.
Hip hop forums are elsewhere.
I have been recommended by many to clean up forum a bit, and I guess it could be started just about here.
ease up, big guy. by all means, ban me, it's your trigger to pull, and you should run this place how you see fit. it's your house. i definitely don't contribute on the level of some others here.
i think this thread is mostly dumb too, i agree with you. i was just making a lighthearted comment cos you seemed to be asking for noise talk in the butthurt thread.
i do get the general point you're making.
i just noticed that even tho this thread is longer, it has a rubbish view to post ratio in comparison to the porn and the true crime threads. so take heart!
I can see quite detailed statistics of forum as admin. So I can see that this topic, while being popular based on amount of messages & posting, this topic ain't that popular based on views.
It barely goes to top-10 topics based on views, but even that successful position is probably due fact that it's 2nd most popular topic to post - right there after "playlist". And therefore just about always on top of page.
So conclusion would be, that what we have here, is constant bombardment of silly news links what hardly anyone wants to see. But you do as it is here on top threads all the time and just happen to click it. Just like you hardly can escape them in social media, because it is being throw at your face restlessly. Of course I am not advocating we need safezone free of crap news (haha...!) but when topic ORIGINALLY was started to ridicule the political correctness of totalitarian level, than slowly shifting to post links of whatever butthurt someone had in world (and therefore topic name was changed). And little by little, it seems it wasn't really about laughing at someone butthurt, but posts themselves being whiney.
I'd assume, there are many levels between being moralist, judgmental, critical, ironic and butthurt whiney, etc. Some of these qualities are just fine, some even highly valued. But when you get guys, who are culmination of look-at-my feelings whiney butthurts -types, then I guess topic is just about closing the circle, ain't it?
But knowing that very few people views this, it's easy choice to just let it be there for amusement of those few.
Nevertheless, I assume it may be just relevant critical question if people choose to be whiney gossip dwelling girls, just reacting on world, or rather pick up maybe a notch more creative and inspiring outlet for little free time they may have?
Do people want me out?
Quote from: Deadpriest on August 07, 2016, 01:17:52 PM
Do people want me out?
I've received such suggestions, yes. So if posting less stupid stuff is possible, that'd always be better ;)
Yet, SI is not that stubbornly "serious business noise only", but if one wants to focus most of all on stupid stuff and useless one-liners, there are more suitable places for it.
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on August 07, 2016, 01:54:15 PM
Quote from: Deadpriest on August 07, 2016, 01:17:52 PM
Do people want me out?
I've received such suggestions, yes. So if posting less stupid stuff is possible, that'd always be better ;)
Yet, SI is not that stubbornly "serious business noise only", but if one wants to focus most of all on stupid stuff and useless one-liners, there are more suitable places for it.
Shit, ok, thanks dude, will do.
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on August 07, 2016, 12:39:53 PM...I assume it may be just relevant critical question if people choose to be whiney gossip dwelling girls, just reacting on world, or rather pick up maybe a notch more creative and inspiring outlet for little free time they may have?
Or even both? I don't think people posting here means anything other than they like to post here. Doesn't say a thing about what they do with the rest of their time, little or not.
If I get sick of anything here I wont be demanding Mikko "clean it up" to my liking, I'll just leave it alone like I've done with other forums. That ooOOetc kid was fucking annoying, yes, but he was a pretty extreme case - one of the most extreme cases I've seen on a forum in years, I think, and I didn't expect him to last (surprised he lasted as long as he did, actually. I got the measure of him after his first whinging long post or two. I think Mikko is pretty damn easy going with a lot of bullshit here, and I think it's good policy). He struck me as a messed up young individual who may very well get over a lot of his shit to the point where he's more bearable. Humans tend to be at their worst in their teens to early twenties, I've noticed.
Personally I can't think of a single person here I'd be so upset about that I'd message Mikko about them. If anyone pisses me off that much on a forum it's easy as pissing to just ignore them. I honestly think a lot of smart-arsery here is pretty minimal compared to, again, other forums. I don't see a lot to complain about at all.
https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/i-look-at-a-cloud-and-i-see-it-as-me-the-people-who-identify-as-objects (https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/i-look-at-a-cloud-and-i-see-it-as-me-the-people-who-identify-as-objects)
Quote"If I met someone who had spent three years of their life contemplating their identity, exploring their spirit and mental state, etc., and really, earnestly and sincerely believed that their internal truth was that they were somehow a chair," he said, "I would respect that, and believe them and their identity."
oh fucking god the otherkin.
I used to live and work in Berkely CA. That relatively small part of the bay area must be 50% full of people who think they are dragons or crows or cats. And will insist that you treat them as such. (and they are also 'chemically sensitive' so don't wear hygeine products near them!)
I remember being at some pagan something or other and this guy and his wife were insisting they were both dragons. I told them that if they are indeed dragons I should be going home to get my sword and putting it into his chest.
And I was 'the asshole'.
I was not literally threatening violence. I'm not like a martial arts bad ass. But I have been in a few fights and really hurt people. I very much regret every time I've done something that scars someones face or whatever. I'm just a bad combination of a coward and a psycho which strangely makes me effective at hurting other people. So I actually really do not like to fight or anything like that. But this guy. Mr Dragon and Dragonette were "oh no you didnt!. They literally wanted to pick a literal fight over my silly joke.
What really makes it funny though, and salient. Is that this person who I already knew, a trans person name Klin or something like that started sticking up for them and using it as a platform for how white male cisgender (straight people) have always oppressed whatever they dont understand. And I was fascist!
I could not stop laughing long enough to actually defend myself from the chick with beard or the dragons.
Ironically I fully support people to be whatever they want to be. Stick your fake dick in any consenting adult I dont care.
I used to get beat up a lot for being a weird teenager so I kind of identify.
But, nobody has to play along with you. Period.
That is the part of consenting adults people forget.
You want to be a big sexy dragon, that is between you and the fat cat lady that will agree that she is also a dragon if you touch her vagina.
I am neither touching vagina nor having my man thing touched, so I'm not playing this game.
oh shit, maybe they were hitting on me? Yikes.
I honestly was not aware there were so many people out there that identify as animals, objects, or mythological fantasy creatures. I understand the appeal of dragons to the modern new age era 'pagans' out there since like most people in the occidental world they're mentally ill and desperately seeking an escape from their own mundane lives and lack of metaphysical/spiritual fulfillment like almost everyone else...but a chair? Cat thing makes sense since human beings in the west also apparently have obsessions with felines. But why a chair? Rhetorical question.
A friend of mine and I were discussing this whole "identifying" thing, more in relation to young people being "fluid" with their sexuality, and we both agreed it's just a fashion, nothing more. All this kind of thing comes from certain people living in certain areas who have exposure to certain ideas. My friend's daughter is involved in anarchist activism so my friend meets these kids, boys who wear skirts and simple stuff like that. They're all in the same circles exposing each other to the same ideas and concepts. Anyone outside of it has to have it explained to them.
I dare say there may be one or two primative tribes left in the world in which, who knows, some old shaman turns into an animal at appropriate ceremonies. Maybe. You might find someone in a dirt poor village in Russia who thinks he's a goat. Maybe someone in a rural community in Africa or South America who believes they are an airplane or some such thing.
But all this "otherkin" shit is just a fashion, something groovy people in groovy suburbs who are in the same groovy circles talking the same groovy bullshit to each other are suddenly into. Odd that all these people who "identify" as dragons or lamp posts or teacups or whatever have suddenly cropped up right now, and haven't been around since whatever.
But, since all it takes is to "identify" as something these days and you're it, I identify as an arsehole. And as such, I reserve the right to shit on chairs and you have to recognise my right as an arsehole to shit on you.
Give it a generation or more and it'll be some other groovy bullshit. If I'm still alive I'll still be sneering at it. Fashion comes and go, cynicism remains.
(PS - I have to admit I'm a bit more open minded about people having phillias for inanimate objects. I posted a video here a while ago about people who have "relationships" with objects, "The Woman who Married the Eiffel Tower" or something. Someone's sexuality developing towards non living things is something I can at least sort-of understand. Wanting to fuck a car or a building seems strange to me but human lust knows no boundaries so I can accept it, and as romantic love is just lust plus obsession, someone wanting "a relationship" with a building, I suppose, makes a weird sense.
But "identifying" as a chair - that one needs to be explained to me. I have no idea).
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-08-09/peta-wants-tasmania-eggs-and-bacon-bay-name-change/7705166 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-08-09/peta-wants-tasmania-eggs-and-bacon-bay-name-change/7705166)
Hope they get some of their sexy naked ladies on the cause.
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The otherkin stuff to me represents the impossibillity of some folks on the left to ever call bullshit.
Mind so open your brain falls out as rednecks like to say.
esp in anarchist circles you really have to recognize and affirm everyones life choice no matter how stupid, inane, bad smelling, or just plain silly it is.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on August 11, 2016, 09:32:22 PM
She's getting the fuck out of Dubai, bitch, because they wouldn't let her in:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_gGZpPEB9Q
hahaha. Big surprise, an Islamic city in the UAE discriminates against transgender people! I can't believe it! How dare those evil, regressive muslims not accept the real rich, white, sexually confused but heavily surgically modified you!!! The world is so unfair :((((((
I wish it would have ended up going and then possibly it would've been tortured to death or beheaded, although that surgery that cost probably what most people make in the US in ten years is pretty convincing so maybe it would've gotten away with it.
Speaking of Muslims...
David Cole Stein:
"Shame dictates that Germany must imprison its own people for denying (or merely revising) aspects of Holocaust history, while at the exact same time shame dictates that Germany must import millions of "refugees" from countries (and cultures) in which Holocaust denial is the norm."
http://takimag.com/article/to_shame_the_white_man_david_cole/print#axzz4GjyfaGT1 (http://takimag.com/article/to_shame_the_white_man_david_cole/print#axzz4GjyfaGT1)
Quote from: Major Carew on August 11, 2016, 09:54:46 PM
Speaking of Muslims...
David Cole Stein:
"Shame dictates that Germany must imprison its own people for denying (or merely revising) aspects of Holocaust history, while at the exact same time shame dictates that Germany must import millions of "refugees" from countries (and cultures) in which Holocaust denial is the norm."
http://takimag.com/article/to_shame_the_white_man_david_cole/print#axzz4GjyfaGT1 (http://takimag.com/article/to_shame_the_white_man_david_cole/print#axzz4GjyfaGT1)
Similar approach to minorities (which besides the obvious black community, it especially applies also to Hispanic people and Native Americans) here in the United States in a lot of ways, although I don't think it's precisely shame that allows places like the US and Germany to allow and protect massive influxes of immigrants both legal and illegal, from what I've seen and read it seems to me that it's rather that the corporate ruling class/oligarchy actually through political and economic policy both directly and indirectly causes and encourages all of this legitimate and illegal immigration (i.e. = more cheap labor means the cost of labor plummets amongst numerous other factors) for reasons I won't ramble about further here.
Quote from: calaverasgrande on August 11, 2016, 09:14:55 AM
The otherkin stuff to me represents the impossibillity of some folks on the left to ever call bullshit.
Mind so open your brain falls out as rednecks like to say.
esp in anarchist circles you really have to recognize and affirm everyones life choice no matter how stupid, inane, bad smelling, or just plain silly it is.
(https://twistedsifter.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/spread-anarchy-dont-tell-me-what-to-do-graffiti-street-art.jpg)
mind so open your brain falls out-quoted from prior entry.
from a closed mind, why put up with these immigrants who don't have centuries old stake in our culture, and even without malice, will change for the worse? host cultures are always the losers here. immigrants change the host not vice versa.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on August 11, 2016, 09:32:22 PM
She's getting the fuck out of Dubai, bitch, because they wouldn't let her in:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_gGZpPEB9Q
I would love to spend a hot fucking night with her. In Dubai or elsewhere - i dont care.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on August 12, 2016, 09:05:54 PM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2016/08/11/debate-flares-after-black-college-students-seek-a-non-white-roommate/
The solution to racism is segregation.
too right. as a start
Burn down the suburbs to save our weaves:
http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/kristine-marsh/2016/08/15/cnn-selectively-edits-police-shooting-victims-sisters-words
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on August 16, 2016, 03:50:15 AM
Burn down the suburbs to save our weaves:
http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/kristine-marsh/2016/08/15/cnn-selectively-edits-police-shooting-victims-sisters-words
Actually made me laugh out loud.
Maybe it's just me, or this thread in all of its glory, but the world seems to be increasingly turning into a bad parody of itself.
#blackolivesmatter
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3742732/New-Mexico-restaurant-sells-black-olives-matter-shirts-hats-following-criticism-pun-playing-protest-slogan.html
stupid fucking yanks...
https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2016/aug/19/naked-donald-trump-statue-satire-ageist-body-shaming (https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2016/aug/19/naked-donald-trump-statue-satire-ageist-body-shaming)
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on August 20, 2016, 03:09:55 AM
https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2016/aug/19/naked-donald-trump-statue-satire-ageist-body-shaming (https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2016/aug/19/naked-donald-trump-statue-satire-ageist-body-shaming)
improves my body image no end!
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on August 20, 2016, 03:09:55 AM
https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2016/aug/19/naked-donald-trump-statue-satire-ageist-body-shaming (https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2016/aug/19/naked-donald-trump-statue-satire-ageist-body-shaming)
Didn't they get the memo that said that all the "-isms" are to be used only to shut up political opponents? If any grown human being actually takes any of that shit seriously, then the world is in a dire state indeed.
The only solid, bullet-proof reason to support Donald Trump is the massive aneurysms that will befall at least 65% of European journalists should he win. Since I don't get to vote in the US election, I don't have to draw the obvious conclusion that this is reason enough.
I'm sure there is some overlap of forum membership.
Nonetheless I am not sure how I missed this gem (https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=138427&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0).
Basically the young woman flipped out and called everyone a bunch of masturbating goons because of this (https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=138132l) thread. Where someone says that a picture of a bunch of vintage Roland gear with 4 Roland tape delays would be good fap material.
Oh yeah, there were two Japanese girls in the pic, but he obviously had a boner for the gear. I do too.
It brings up a recurring theme I see in hair trigger feminists. Men expressing sexual interest in a woman/women are automatically sexist. Which is catastrophically dumb. If sex only ever happens when men initiate it, and men are not supposed to express sexual interest, the species will die out.
Maybe the singularity is the solution.
Quote from: calaverasgrande on August 22, 2016, 06:21:19 PM
I'm sure there is some overlap of forum membership.
Nonetheless I am not sure how I missed this gem (https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=138427&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0).
Couldn't read it, I got asked for a user name and password.
Quote from: calaverasgrande on August 22, 2016, 06:21:19 PMIf sex only ever happens when men initiate it, and men are not supposed to express sexual interest, the species will die out.
Interesting plan, but too convoluted and unreliable for mine. Unfortunately feminists have no real interest in wiping humanity out. They all claim to love Solanas's "SCUM" but no interest in initiating her plans. Not only did she have more backbone then every modern feminist put together, she had excellent taste in victims (even though the cunt survived).
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on August 23, 2016, 12:54:13 AM
Quote from: calaverasgrande on August 22, 2016, 06:21:19 PM
I'm sure there is some overlap of forum membership.
Nonetheless I am not sure how I missed this gem (https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=138427&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0).
Couldn't read it, I got asked for a user name and password.
Aw shit I'm sorry. It's a truly beautiful forum meltdown.
Some young lady from Australia blows a gasket because the big wide world of the internet isn't as perfectly feminist as possible. Then she swears off modular synths and Eurorack format in particular because of the 'abuse' that she has suffered at Muffwiggler. (which is kind of hte defacto Eurorack/Modular synth forum these days).
The hilarious part is that aside from one or two people, most of Muffs is very PC. It's kind of a quiet, well lighted place for introverted dorks to talk about obscure gear.
If this young lady ever ended up on Gearsluts or dudepit she would probably report a rape to Interpol.
how weird.
Muffwiggler is generally a very polite website were noobs are treated pretty well.
This is where I get most of my technical know-how and nobody laughs at me whenever I post dumb questions.
there are several women writing there, including the girl that does video-modular system and nobody ever harassed her in public.
Quote from: tiny_tove on August 23, 2016, 09:40:50 AM
how weird.
Muffwiggler is generally a very polite website were noobs are treated pretty well.
This is where I get most of my technical know-how and nobody laughs at me whenever I post dumb questions.
there are several women writing there, including the girl that does video-modular system and nobody ever harassed her in public.
In a world where people are literally rampantly looking for things to feel victimized over or to get angry about, I'm not surprised.
If using the term "colored people" is considered offensive (dafuq?!) these days, then I'm fucked...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3753359/GMAs-Amy-Robach-apologizes-air-racial-slur.html
I've always hated the term "people of color". It's too close to the term "coloreds", which I always understood as racist, it assumes the great majority of the human race agree with each other, and it's just too damn hippy.
Can anyone tell us how we have to call them to be PC ? Or should we pretend that race doesn't exist ?
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on August 24, 2016, 03:10:46 AM
I've always hated the term "people of color". It's too close to the term "coloreds", which I always understood as racist, it assumes the great majority of the human race agree with each other, and it's just too damn hippy.
(http://i.imgur.com/4y4YTOq.jpg)
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on August 24, 2016, 03:10:46 AM
I've always hated the term "people of color". It's too close to the term "coloreds", which I always understood as racist, it assumes the great majority of the human race agree with each other, and it's just too damn hippy.
that are what you call them, but the feedback is for you if you get it wrong.
Instead of POC or Colored, call them by their first names: Leroy, Chicken Bone, Ray Ray, Turquoise, or Acqwon. Just whatever you do, don't call them late for dinner (fried chicken, collard greens, & watermelon). But one thing you can bet on, they'll show up late.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on August 24, 2016, 08:07:41 PM
Instead of POC or Colored, call them by their first names: Leroy, Chicken Bone, Ray Ray, Turquoise, or Acqwon. Just whatever you do, don't call them late for dinner (fried chicken, collard greens, & watermelon). But one thing you can bet on, they'll show up late.
ha ha. so true. but don't forget names like prince, precious, psychology etc
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on August 24, 2016, 08:07:41 PMChicken Bone
(http://hotdamncharlotteann.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/7332916-funny-cartoon-cannibal-with.jpg?w=300&h=300)
Quote from: Fluid Fetish on August 23, 2016, 09:10:54 PM
Quote from: tiny_tove on August 23, 2016, 09:40:50 AM
how weird.
Muffwiggler is generally a very polite website were noobs are treated pretty well.
This is where I get most of my technical know-how and nobody laughs at me whenever I post dumb questions.
there are several women writing there, including the girl that does video-modular system and nobody ever harassed her in public.
In a world where people are literally rampantly looking for things to feel victimized over or to get angry about, I'm not surprised.
I don't think it is a world of people looking to feel victimized. It's just some people. Though they do tend to clump in heaps, especially places like Berkeley CA.
berp
I'm not a Pc sjw, but come on are just going to devolve into juvenile stereotypes and giggles?
Tee hee, watermelon.
Totally
Yeah, olympiad stupidity going on throughout this forum to be honest. Makes you wonder how sincere all these laboured calls to understand PE discourse as something more than surface provocation really are when you consider how quickly the casual chat throughout this place so often descends into total bollocks.
Honestly, I grew up in a pretty PC environment. I also had a whole side of my family that was very right wing.
So I see the logical trap inherent to both in terms of claiming to be for 'liberty' or 'freedom'. But simultaneously being intolerant of the mere utterance of certain words.
I don't think anyone has ever switched from being a sexist or racist or socialist or whatever, simply because they were prohibited from using such words as nigger, bitch or socialism in public. I just reject that whole semantic of lexical totalitarianism (of the proletariat!).
But then sometimes I really do wonder about the PE/noise/industrial subculture. There are elements that have moved beyond being merely provocative with shocking imagery of racist tropes. To embracing racist tropes and ideologies.
Though I'm quite sure if such people were backed into a corner on it, in person, they would use the get out of jail free card "oh I'm just playing a character of a bigot that revels in the suffering of blacks and jews, I'm just trying really hard to provoke".
Yeah, or when pressed on it I guess people might pretend as though there isn't any kind of discussion around these things at all.
Quote from: Duncan on August 28, 2016, 12:21:24 AM
Yeah, or when pressed on it I guess people might pretend as though there isn't any kind of discussion around these things at all.
But it's such an old and boring discussion. Been going on since Throbbing Gristle. What good comes from going over the same arguments for the umpteenth time?
Quote from: Duncan on August 27, 2016, 06:06:50 PM
Yeah, olympiad stupidity going on throughout this forum to be honest. Makes you wonder how sincere all these laboured calls to understand PE discourse as something more than surface provocation really are when you consider how quickly the casual chat throughout this place so often descends into total bollocks.
Because this 'casual chat' that you lament 'so often descends into total bollocks' is reflective on 'the laboured calls to understand PE discourse as something beyond provocation' in what way? I don't understand your complaining at all or how trivial small talk related to immature internet memes/humor has any relation to PE and noise and it's depth or intention in any way?
Many bands are serious about these subjects while others are completely satirical/observational/whatever else and as Andrew mentioned it's been discussed over and over and over.
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on August 28, 2016, 04:03:16 AM
Quote from: Duncan on August 28, 2016, 12:21:24 AM
Yeah, or when pressed on it I guess people might pretend as though there isn't any kind of discussion around these things at all.
But it's such an old and boring discussion. Been going on since Throbbing Gristle. What good comes from going over the same arguments for the umpteenth time?
as many people weren't around for the debates around throbbing gristle et al-too young, not even born etc
also given that the various tropes keep returning through new bands etc, then so will the arguments, after all there is never any conclusion to this type of debate.
https://girlattherockshows.wordpress.com/2016/08/25/this-is-not-a-dream/
Sounds like it was the most tramautic experience of her life, Star of David tattoo and all.
Here's a better tattoo idea for her.
(http://americandigest.org/Holocaust_tattoo.jpg)
Quote from: david lloyd jones on August 28, 2016, 06:08:08 PM
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on August 28, 2016, 04:03:16 AM
Quote from: Duncan on August 28, 2016, 12:21:24 AM
Yeah, or when pressed on it I guess people might pretend as though there isn't any kind of discussion around these things at all.
But it's such an old and boring discussion. Been going on since Throbbing Gristle. What good comes from going over the same arguments for the umpteenth time?
as many people weren't around for the debates around throbbing gristle et al-too young, not even born etc
also given that the various tropes keep returning through new bands etc, then so will the arguments, after all there is never any conclusion to this type of debate.
I don't know how old some people are and I don't care. Young or old, expecting the rest of us to come to their "discussions" is pretentious.
The rest is my point exactly. Never any conclusion. Pointless point scoring. Enough!
Mind you, if you want a classic example of young people with no fucking sense of either history of the last few mere decades or basic context -
QuoteConcerts are my safe haven.
Yea, a concert with a Black Metal band renowned for their emphasis on depression, suicide, cutting. Really safe. Good to see she got the drubbing she asked for in the comments section. Jesus, who's giving birth to these idiots?
enough indeed or i'm just not joining in this time.
Quote from: david lloyd jones on August 28, 2016, 06:08:08 PM
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on August 28, 2016, 04:03:16 AM
Quote from: Duncan on August 28, 2016, 12:21:24 AM
Yeah, or when pressed on it I guess people might pretend as though there isn't any kind of discussion around these things at all.
But it's such an old and boring discussion. Been going on since Throbbing Gristle. What good comes from going over the same arguments for the umpteenth time?
as many people weren't around for the debates around throbbing gristle et al-too young, not even born etc
also given that the various tropes keep returning through new bands etc, then so will the arguments, after all there is never any conclusion to this type of debate.
I'm old enough to remember Boyd Rice, Throbbing Gristle, Monte Cazzaza etc.
While those artists are well known to have offensive material, and to engage in deliberately confrontational performance tactics. None of them were being jackasses.
I'd also say that most of those early Industrial/Noise acts were not picking sides. They were operating outside of the good/bad dichotomy. Either an examination of, reducto ad absurdiam, satire etc.
I'd also posit that most of these acts were essentially nihilists. Picking a side and actually being a nazi was just as bad as being a Democrat. However portraying a nazi in order to infuriate Democrats? Beautiful.
I object (artistically) to some of the newer acts which apparently profess nazism or somesuch not because of some SJW bullshit.
But because its a copout, and a classic example of 'looking at the finger when I'm pointing at the moon'.
Quote from: calaverasgrande on August 31, 2016, 05:57:51 AM
Quote from: david lloyd jones on August 28, 2016, 06:08:08 PM
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on August 28, 2016, 04:03:16 AM
Quote from: Duncan on August 28, 2016, 12:21:24 AM
Yeah, or when pressed on it I guess people might pretend as though there isn't any kind of discussion around these things at all.
But it's such an old and boring discussion. Been going on since Throbbing Gristle. What good comes from going over the same arguments for the umpteenth time?
as many people weren't around for the debates around throbbing gristle et al-too young, not even born etc
also given that the various tropes keep returning through new bands etc, then so will the arguments, after all there is never any conclusion to this type of debate.
I'm old enough to remember Boyd Rice, Throbbing Gristle, Monte Cazzaza etc.
While those artists are well known to have offensive material, and to engage in deliberately confrontational performance tactics. None of them were being jackasses.
I'd also say that most of those early Industrial/Noise acts were not picking sides. They were operating outside of the good/bad dichotomy. Either an examination of, reducto ad absurdiam, satire etc.
I'd also posit that most of these acts were essentially nihilists. Picking a side and actually being a nazi was just as bad as being a Democrat. However portraying a nazi in order to infuriate Democrats? Beautiful.
I object (artistically) to some of the newer acts which apparently profess nazism or somesuch not because of some SJW bullshit.
But because its a copout, and a classic example of 'looking at the finger when I'm pointing at the moon'.
in the uk, some did indeed choose sides and positioned themselves as liberal democrat and not nihilist at all.
non commenters were usually right wing-real or fancied. few, if any saw themselves as nihilist.
Quote from: calaverasgrande on August 31, 2016, 05:57:51 AM
I object (artistically) to some of the newer acts which apparently profess nazism or somesuch not because of some SJW bullshit.
But because its a copout, and a classic example of 'looking at the finger when I'm pointing at the moon'.
I've touched on this in the Black Metal-thread, but I think it is also relevant for other genres. Politics in music can, sometimes, be very effective in an artistic sense, even if you're not very fond of the actual opinions. It has to be done right, though, and it is very difficult to formulate a rule for what is "right". Personally I hate almost all political punk/oi music, for instance, regardless of the exact politics. It almost always has an air of Youth Center rehearsal space shitheads thinking they've figured the world out, while actually just being... Well, Youth Center rehearsal space shitheads. This would go for everything from terrible German RAC to Rage Against the Machine. Don't get me wrong, there is some great german RAC, and the "Bombtrack" video's tribute to the Shining Path is comedy gold, but from a purely aesthetic standpoint (which is becoming more and more important to me as I grow older and more cynical), most political music is garbage.
Gurka
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3768563/German-mayor-fire-posting-joke-picture-cucumber-looks-like-burka.html
Quote from: Stoa on September 04, 2016, 09:50:48 PM
Quote from: calaverasgrande on August 31, 2016, 05:57:51 AM
I object (artistically) to some of the newer acts which apparently profess nazism or somesuch not because of some SJW bullshit.
But because its a copout, and a classic example of 'looking at the finger when I'm pointing at the moon'.
I've touched on this in the Black Metal-thread, but I think it is also relevant for other genres. Politics in music can, sometimes, be very effective in an artistic sense, even if you're not very fond of the actual opinions. It has to be done right, though, and it is very difficult to formulate a rule for what is "right". Personally I hate almost all political punk/oi music, for instance, regardless of the exact politics. It almost always has an air of Youth Center rehearsal space shitheads thinking they've figured the world out, while actually just being... Well, Youth Center rehearsal space shitheads. This would go for everything from terrible German RAC to Rage Against the Machine. Don't get me wrong, there is some great german RAC, and the "Bombtrack" video's tribute to the Shining Path is comedy gold, but from a purely aesthetic standpoint (which is becoming more and more important to me as I grow older and more cynical), most political music is garbage.
Honestly as much as I love good Black Metal, as soon as any of those musicians starts talking during an interview it is, well how you put it. Pure comedy gold. But I suppose comin from such a country as Norway their experience of and reaction to social constucts like Christianity are going to be much different than for someone like me that grew up in a much more heterogeneous place like the Deep South of the US.
Still, can't hate on the guitar sounds.
As far as noise, PE, Industrial acts that are liberal democrat or leftist. I suppose Test Dept and SPK did some pro labor type stuff. I think I recall Coil as well had something of that nature in terms of aids activism? Maybe I am confusing them with someone else. I need another coffee.
I still think that there is a difference between artistically motivated political statements, and politically motivated artistic statements.
Just don't fucking talk to anyone:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/07/us/campuses-cautiously-train-freshmen-against-subtle-insults.html?smid=tw-share&_r=1
Quote from: theotherjohn on September 08, 2016, 11:19:12 AM
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on September 08, 2016, 01:09:42 AM
Just don't fucking talk to anyone:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/07/us/campuses-cautiously-train-freshmen-against-subtle-insults.html?smid=tw-share&_r=1
That article has got to be satire, right? I'm assuming those "microaggression" sample statements are fake and purposefully meant to be ignorant or humorous in their sly provocation - shouldn't they have learned societal abilities (or as I call it "common sense") through school, family, weekend jobs, or being alive for nearly 20 years? It's not hard - you make a mistake or faux pas, you get told that's not correct or proper, you don't do it again. I hate to think that an entire generation is being lumped in with this mollycoddled mentality for the sake of media frenzy, but maybe I'm wrong.
unfortunately, unlikely to be satire, but state os us colleges now and UK colleges soon if madness spreads
there was a pretty good magazine cover last week about that whole microagression thing.
Picture of a young woman (blonde, white) with her fists clasped to her ears and an angry look on her face.
In a crib.
I grew up in a highly racist part of the US. I used to get beat up for having 'nigger' friends.
That is what racism tastes like to me. This whole stupid thing about being a racist because your use of blah blah blah term implies blah blah blah. It's a bunch of middle class kids that are newly exposed to the concepts of race, class and gender and they are intent on being radical change agents. Except that things are actually pretty damn fair these days. So they have to make up imaginary problems.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/sep/10/as-lionel-shriver-made-light-of-identity-i-had-no-choice-but-to-walk-out-on-her#comments (https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/sep/10/as-lionel-shriver-made-light-of-identity-i-had-no-choice-but-to-walk-out-on-her#comments)
"I can't speak for the LGBTQI community, those who are neuro-different or people with disabilities, but that's also the point. I don't speak for them, and should allow for their voices and experiences to be heard and legitimised."
I when you said gay ebcause 'queer' was bad. Then in the 80's or 90's queer became the n word that gay people used to refer to each other. So it confuses me to see LGB and also Q? I assume the T is trans, but what on earth is I?
Interested?
Then the really good part, "neuro-different".
What. The. Fuck.
Is that for mentally ill people? Or mentally disabled?
Are ADHD/Dyslexic qualified as neuro-different?
I'm a certified, diagnosed ADHD/Dyslexic. Had the good speed prescribed for years for it.
Maybe I'm neuro-different too! Does that make me gay? Better learn to suck cock I guess.
LesbianGayBisexualTranssexualQuestioningIntersex
Nuerodifferent is the autistic spectrum
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2016/sep/12/teenagers-healthy-eating-rebellious (https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2016/sep/12/teenagers-healthy-eating-rebellious)
QuoteWhen I eat healthy, I am helping to make the world a better place.
QuoteWhen I eat healthy, I am helping to make the world a better place.
(http://www.learnnc.org/lp/media/uploads/2009/07/bibb115.jpg)
Quality journalism from a very triggered person.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/christian-gabriel/if-you-dont-vote-democrat_b_10425968.html
Quote from: cantle on September 11, 2016, 06:22:24 PM
LesbianGayBisexualTranssexualQuestioningIntersex
Nuerodifferent is the autistic spectrum
I totally forgot about that whole fashionably autistic thing. I even did a project with a young woman who was 'on the spectrum'. Funny she had zero problems relating to people in a social context, holding down a job or generally functioning.
Thank god that project never reached fruition. She was such a whiny hypochondriac trust fundy.
all this labelling stuff brings to mind insults that started off as medical/psychiatric diagnoses- cretin, retard, idiot,pinhead, mongol, and spazz (this shortened from spastic).
will we start seeing chromosomally challenged, reality divergent as correct terms?
from the post, surely, herpes still fucks...
"There is a war happening online every single day, and most are unaware it exists."
(https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/800/1*E00V4cmdxz_xt7T2GF9RYw.jpeg)
the original blog was long.
having any virus sucks.
this young lady's attempts to 'normalise' STD infection are praiseworthy but at cost to her and possibly of limited value.
proselytising can do that.
Quote from: david lloyd jones on September 17, 2016, 10:55:11 PM
this young lady's attempts to 'normalise' STD infection are praiseworthy
I should know this, having spent many years at a scandinavian university, but since I spent most of them drinking: why?
Her little campaign is just tailormade for the kind of pee pee poo poo humor that alt right trolls revel in.
To be fair, what she is a victim of is the semi-permeable anonymity of the internet.
Its a membrane which is provides enough of a cloak to provide cover for jackasses.
But not actually provide privacy for normal people who just want to scrapbook about their vaginas.
Re the "alt right". I think this Ella Dawson's description of them as "a hipster rebranding of white supremacy, misogyny and bigotry for the digital era" is dead right, at least from what I've bothered to look at. I can give the rest of her alt left posturing but there's no getting around it, the "alt right" is just the same old bullshit in a snarkier, groovier accent. Smug young cunts in general give me the shits anyway.
At the same time the self importance some people put on their own opinion is staggering and miss Herpes here is a good example.
"They hated me for having a voice and for striving to create a better world that didn't fit their bigoted utopia."
Maybe "they" just despise her for the verbal diarrhea thinly disguised as "striving to create a better world" so symptomatic of her ilk? I do.
Sure, like I've stated a few times here before, both wings of the political chook are stunted and worthless. As a lapsed humanist I tend to find the right more genuinely offensive and the left just offensively pointless. "(C)reating a better world" through documenting one's genital warts. Christ....
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on September 19, 2016, 01:22:07 PM
. "(C)reating a better world" through documenting one's genital warts. Christ....
ha!
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/sep/19/paul-gascoigne-pleads-guilty-to-racially-aggravated-offence (https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/sep/19/paul-gascoigne-pleads-guilty-to-racially-aggravated-offence)
the guy was always a twat, even before this.
anyone who thought a roast chicken and fishing equipment would seduce a psychopath killer is an arsenide at least.
Could also go in the porn thread:
http://everydayfeminism.com/2016/07/be-proud-tight-asian-pssy/
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on September 22, 2016, 03:48:24 AM
Could also go in the porn thread:
http://everydayfeminism.com/2016/07/be-proud-tight-asian-pssy/
Seems like they're getting troubles remembering all their terms themselves. "This article is written by a cisgender woman..." <--> "Anis Gisele is a queer immigrant writer" Eh? Doesn't go together does it?
That being said, never been into Asian girls myself, yeah, some are pretty, but that "smallness" that a lot of people seem to find attractive in Asian women indeed, doesn't interest me.
QuoteI think this is where my value lies: in my smallness, in my submission, and in my ability to provide pleasure.
Nail on the head.
Quote from: Ashmonger on September 22, 2016, 11:07:02 AM
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on September 22, 2016, 03:48:24 AM
Could also go in the porn thread:
http://everydayfeminism.com/2016/07/be-proud-tight-asian-pssy/
Seems like they're getting troubles remembering all their terms themselves. "This article is written by a cisgender woman..." <--> "Anis Gisele is a queer immigrant writer" Eh? Doesn't go together does it?
That being said, never been into Asian girls myself, yeah, some are pretty, but that "smallness" that a lot of people seem to find attractive in Asian women indeed, doesn't interest me.
If I should define myself : "bald, aging, bloody wop who is slowly getting fat and steal job to Swiss people on daily basis".
Socialite socialist periodical Huffington Post can help define you further. If you're not down with Black Lives Matter that is, because if you aren't you are a racist.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-halstead/dear-fellow-white-people-_b_11109842.html?
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/sep/21/right-to-sell-golliwogs-not-something-should-be-fighting-for-in-2016-suzanne-moore?CMP=fb_gu
conquest for golly
When all else fails go for the Golliwog. Someone in the comment section had her holiday ruined by one which is just awful. It apparently upset her to the point of almost seeing things that weren't there which seems to be a common disorder among lefties of our time.
I saw a golliwog in a village shop on a holiday and found it really unsettling. I'd been enjoying my holiday up till that point but it was almost like seeing a sign saying "you're welcome here, but your friends wouldn't be".
Quote from: tiny_tove on September 22, 2016, 11:53:37 AM
Quote from: Ashmonger on September 22, 2016, 11:07:02 AM
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on September 22, 2016, 03:48:24 AM
Could also go in the porn thread:
http://everydayfeminism.com/2016/07/be-proud-tight-asian-pssy/
Seems like they're getting troubles remembering all their terms themselves. "This article is written by a cisgender woman..." <--> "Anis Gisele is a queer immigrant writer" Eh? Doesn't go together does it?
That being said, never been into Asian girls myself, yeah, some are pretty, but that "smallness" that a lot of people seem to find attractive in Asian women indeed, doesn't interest me.
If I should define myself : "bald, aging, bloody wop who is slowly getting fat and steal job to Swiss people on daily basis".
I guess you are, but I'm not certain what that's got to do with this article (might be one of my retard-moments here).
Also great that she somewhere talks about whiteness and how that's the cause of the problems, all the while mentioning that there were also Japanese rapists etc. Yeah, the Japanese are obviously white...
Quote from: GEWALTMONOPOL on September 22, 2016, 02:04:44 PM
When all else fails go for the Golliwog. Someone in the comment section had her holiday ruined by one which is just awful. It apparently upset her to the point of almost seeing things that weren't there which seems to be a common disorder among lefties of our time.
I saw a golliwog in a village shop on a holiday and found it really unsettling. I'd been enjoying my holiday up till that point but it was almost like seeing a sign saying "you're welcome here, but your friends wouldn't be".
I have to confess I have a soft spot for stuffed animals and puppets in general... I have several around home.., and the weirdest, the most deranged, the better...
so I have been collecting some of them... I had to stop for space reasons...
anyway. one day I was out with 2 friends and another couple of their acquaintances. white liberal female with AfroAmerican guy (very funny and smart, manager of a company, etc.).
my friend and her husband just me a golly for birthday. when I opened the package, the white girl got hysterical, while her boyfriend said "cool, man it is very difficult to get these where I live" and took selfies (although they were not called selfies back them)...
so life goes
Based on some personal experience people of colour are much more relaxed about such things than so called progressive whites. Unless you are an oriental lesbian with a tight pussy. If Anis is representative they are a bit more, ahem, uptight.
yeah black guys and latino guys are way less uptight about all this PC nonsense than your average lesbian POC. And frankly black and latino dudes get fucked with way more than your average lesbian POC.
Though my one black friend of 20 years or so has recently started saying shit like 'check your privilege'. On which I had to remind him who lived in a fucking condo in the nice part of town, had a cool media job and banged hipster chicks doing coke, and who did not.
I'm still friends with the man, but I'm not going to kow tow to the latest ideological meme.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/christian-gabriel/if-you-dont-vote-democrat_b_10425968.html
This evening my dad spouted a particularly venomous & vitriolic rant on religion....
Some quotes from this evening's rant:
"I mean, who the FUCK thinks that the Holy Grail is a golden fucking cup,Hal? A Golden Fucking Cup?! Bollocks! The Holy Grail is Jesus' Fucking Foreskin! .... and THAT is what they keep inside the golden cup."
"All these women moaning about female genital mutilation, bollocks, what about all the jewish babies that get their fucking foreskins cut off? That's child abuse isn't it?......what happens to all those foreskins those fucking cunt Rabbis cut off? Do they compost them? Do they collect them? Do they turn them into a fucking necklace? Do they keep them on the dashboard of their Jew Canoe?" (Jew Canoe = Mercedes)
"....and all because of a fucking book, they all bow down to a fucking book,and even then they get punished.... I mean look at those cunts in Italy recently: *Imitates the voice of God*: "You haven't been grovelling hard enough! Here you go you fucking Cocksuckers! Have a fucking earthquake!"
"When you win the lottery, Hal, Just wait until the local priest comes around to ask if you can spare some money to fix the church roof. Then you turn the fucking pressure hose on the cunt."
"I'd happily give a buddhist 50p"
Also, for years now my dad has been claiming that he worships 'BAAL' (aka 'The Lottery God'). He did actually once make a clay effigy of BAAL, but it was destroyed years ago.
There were more quotes, but I forgot them...
Quote from: Major Carew on September 22, 2016, 11:09:18 PM
This evening my dad spouted a particularly venomous & vitriolic rant on religion....
Some quotes from this evening's rant:
"I mean, who the FUCK thinks that the Holy Grail is a golden fucking cup,Hal? A Golden Fucking Cup?! Bollocks! The Holy Grail is Jesus' Fucking Foreskin! .... and THAT is what they keep inside the golden cup."
"All these women moaning about female genital mutilation, bollocks, what about all the jewish babies that get their fucking foreskins cut off? That's child abuse isn't it?......what happens to all those foreskins those fucking cunt Rabbis cut off? Do they compost them? Do they collect them? Do they turn them into a fucking necklace? Do they keep them on the dashboard of their Jew Canoe?" (Jew Canoe = Mercedes)
"....and all because of a fucking book, they all bow down to a fucking book,and even then they get punished.... I mean look at those cunts in Italy recently: *Imitates the voice of God*: "You haven't been grovelling hard enough! Here you go you fucking Cocksuckers! Have a fucking earthquake!"
"When you win the lottery, Hal, Just wait until the local priest comes around to ask if you can spare some money to fix the church roof. Then you turn the fucking pressure hose on the cunt."
"I'd happily give a buddhist 50p"
Also, for years now my dad has been claiming that he worships 'BAAL' (aka 'The Lottery God'). He did actually once make a clay effigy of BAAL, but it was destroyed years ago.
There were more quotes, but I forgot them...
Get that man in the White House
For full effect, imagine it in the voice of Alf Garnett.
When he gets angry he doesn't sound too different from Alf Garnett!
Today whilst watching telly he got frustrated because of all the stupid commercials, so to vent his anger he just just shouted :"Be Born. Live. Consume. DIE!"
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/sep/24/judge-orders-client-of-teenage-prostitute-to-buy-her-books-on-womens-dignity (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/sep/24/judge-orders-client-of-teenage-prostitute-to-buy-her-books-on-womens-dignity)
I really appreciate when a judge dispenses with somewhat poetic solutions to crimes. Especially when they are not too abrahamic.
On the other hand, I really am getting sick of the extension of pedophilia to include teenagers. This has been an ongoing trend for a while now.
Until very recently, the last 50-100 years, people in the West were legally marrying teenagers 10 or 20 years their junior.
If you killed everyone in the world over 16 years old and only teenagers were left, they would have no problem carrying on the human race. Two 16 year olds can certainly make a baby. So they are sexually mature no doubt.
Before life expectancy became what it is now, you were expected to start behaving like a man at about 15 or 16. In many cultures this is still the case. Sex with people under 18 being rape is a legal construct only.
Where sex with a 5 or 6 year old is obviously fucked up.
I say this not because I want to have sex with teenage girls. Please, women under 30 are annoying and immature no matter how great their ass looks.
But because it dilutes the meaning of pedo. It spreads the enforcement ever thinner, meaning actual child fuckers are getting away with it.
Same as when you spend as much time busting pot dealers as heroin dealers, more people get hurt in the long run, than if you just went after the smack merchants.
(and frankly I think cops prefer to focus on pot busts, it's probably safer for them)
in Italy age of consent is pretty low, yet there are several aspects of that suggests to avoid intercourse with people below 18...
and NEVER and I say never, take pics or accept pics by somebody who looks younger than that age
Quote from: calaverasgrande on September 25, 2016, 11:14:00 PM
I really appreciate when a judge dispenses with somewhat poetic solutions to crimes. Especially when they are not too abrahamic.
On the other hand, I really am getting sick of the extension of pedophilia to include teenagers. This has been an ongoing trend for a while now.
Until very recently, the last 50-100 years, people in the West were legally marrying teenagers 10 or 20 years their junior.
If you killed everyone in the world over 16 years old and only teenagers were left, they would have no problem carrying on the human race. Two 16 year olds can certainly make a baby. So they are sexually mature no doubt.
Before life expectancy became what it is now, you were expected to start behaving like a man at about 15 or 16. In many cultures this is still the case. Sex with people under 18 being rape is a legal construct only.
Where sex with a 5 or 6 year old is obviously fucked up.
I say this not because I want to have sex with teenage girls. Please, women under 30 are annoying and immature no matter how great their ass looks.
But because it dilutes the meaning of pedo. It spreads the enforcement ever thinner, meaning actual child fuckers are getting away with it.
Same as when you spend as much time busting pot dealers as heroin dealers, more people get hurt in the long run, than if you just went after the smack merchants.
(and frankly I think cops prefer to focus on pot busts, it's probably safer for them)
agree here.
overheard a row between street junkies about the male having sex with a 16 yr old (legal) but adescribed in terms ao him being a nonce etc.
consenting legal sex is not the same as child rape, but boundaries do seem to be blurring.
http://www.skrewdriver.net/warriors.
have fun, if inclined.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/sep/28/embracing-the-ratbags-big-brands-but-bigger-ideas-at-junket-youth-unconference (https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/sep/28/embracing-the-ratbags-big-brands-but-bigger-ideas-at-junket-youth-unconference)
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on September 28, 2016, 02:13:41 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/sep/28/embracing-the-ratbags-big-brands-but-bigger-ideas-at-junket-youth-unconference (https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/sep/28/embracing-the-ratbags-big-brands-but-bigger-ideas-at-junket-youth-unconference)
must be getting old and curmudgeonly, reading this just got me irritated-attractive young people wanting the best for the world...
just wanted to tell them all to fuck off.
http://inotherwords.org/2016/09/28/fuck-portlandia/ (http://inotherwords.org/2016/09/28/fuck-portlandia/)
Bonus new word of the week - cisheteropatriachy (https://www.google.com.au/search?q=Cishetero-patriarchy&oq=Cishetero-patriarchy&aqs=chrome..69i57&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#q=Cisheteropatriarchy).
The usual guilty white middleclass nonsense but the paragraph at the end about gentrification leading to people being displaced is true. The reply from "Wally" leads to a hilarious exchange. One would think people are joking but I suspect they aren't.
pub conversation just heard: 'well there's no point me staying here as I won't get served'
'well you won't, dressed as a Chavy twelve year old'- response from her mother.
NWN board: GENOCIDE HATEFUCK - WOMEN ARE SUCH EASY PREY MC OUT NOW!
http://www.nwnprod.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=56194 (http://www.nwnprod.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=56194)
Guess there's some butthurt here too. Over the top presentation, yes, but to me it's not clear if this is really someone who thinks that way or it's another (admittedly far from original) attempt at using a controversial topic. Anyway, aside from those people who just seem to hate all Noise/PE anyway, it amazes me that there are so many reactions on this, on a forum where there's constant mention of bands with degenerate/distasteful/hateful/perverse/... imagery, lyrics and ideas...
bored by it all.
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on October 01, 2016, 05:38:23 AM
http://inotherwords.org/2016/09/28/fuck-portlandia/ (http://inotherwords.org/2016/09/28/fuck-portlandia/)
Bonus new word of the week - cisheteropatriachy (https://www.google.com.au/search?q=Cishetero-patriarchy&oq=Cishetero-patriarchy&aqs=chrome..69i57&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#q=Cisheteropatriarchy).
I actually have to agree that Portlandia is awful.
It is pretty easy to make fun of beardy hipsters and steam punk douchenozzles, but Portlandia is so bad it actually makes me want to stand up for people I generally think are a waste of air and say, "now wait a minute, that isn't even a joke, you are just making fun of people and it isn't even funny".
But then I remember that Portland is only remarkable for the really big houses you can rent much cheaper than the Bay Area.
Oh yeah and that rant was hilarious.
"deeply entrenched" was used a couple times to refer to racism or heteros so you know the author is righteous!
Also, I am confused, do we call gay people non-cis? Anti-cis? Cistern?
The end is near.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/business/wp/2016/09/29/is-your-dogs-halloween-costume-sexist/ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/business/wp/2016/09/29/is-your-dogs-halloween-costume-sexist/)
It irritates me a bit, that this is something to write or even think about, but what do I know...
QuoteYou see in the aisles the issue is clearly applicable to consumers across the country.
Consumers. There's the operative word. Left wing capitalism. Just what we need.
Quote from: cr on October 02, 2016, 03:27:11 PM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/business/wp/2016/09/29/is-your-dogs-halloween-costume-sexist/ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/business/wp/2016/09/29/is-your-dogs-halloween-costume-sexist/)
Am i too naive or "romantic" believe that every sane person reading such articles turns more "conservative" immediatelly ? No, the end is not near. Their end is, if they continue this way, i wish they do, but difficult to think something lower / better than this ! All time high ?
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/lifestyle/travel/haunting-pictures-of-disney-world-ghost-town-as-hurricane-matthew-shuts-theme-park-for-the-fourth-time-ever/ar-BBx7FCq?ocid=spartanntp
Disney loses money whilst 3rd world shitholes lose lives. sounds about equal.
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/landlords-offer-women-free-accommodation-in-london-flats-in-exchange-for-sexual-favours/ar-BBx7FOK?li=AA59G2&ocid=spartandhp
ugly chicks need not apply!
Quote from: david lloyd jones on October 07, 2016, 08:54:28 PM
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/lifestyle/travel/haunting-pictures-of-disney-world-ghost-town-as-hurricane-matthew-shuts-theme-park-for-the-fourth-time-ever/ar-BBx7FCq?ocid=spartanntp
Disney loses money whilst 3rd world shitholes lose lives. sounds about equal.
"The death toll in Haiti from Hurricane Matthew is 339. That's what environmental racism looks like. #BlackLivesMatter"
whenever there is a natural disaster, the news reminds us that lives are more valuable than property. Then they proceed to devote 99% of their coverage to the spectacle of property destruction.
Beware of making kissing noises:
http://www.campusreform.org/?ID=8243
As soon as you're handed one, say "Thanks, babe" and get another...
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on October 12, 2016, 11:00:17 PM
Beware of making kissing noises:
http://www.campusreform.org/?ID=8243
As soon as you're handed one, say "Thanks, babe" and get another...
or, indeed ask them to put their phone number on the back.
and in addition seek top trumps for various 'infringements'
Being able to strike someone with a bolt of lightning would solve a lot of problems!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9SiRNibD14
Quote from: david lloyd jones on October 07, 2016, 10:20:18 PM
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/landlords-offer-women-free-accommodation-in-london-flats-in-exchange-for-sexual-favours/ar-BBx7FOK?li=AA59G2&ocid=spartandhp
ugly chicks need not apply!
fair deals in my opinion...
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on October 15, 2016, 02:43:17 AMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9SiRNibD14
And I don't wanna talk to a scientist
Y'all motherfuckers lying, and getting me pissed...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLGFyxAP0QE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLGFyxAP0QE)
http://scarfolk.blogspot.co.uk/
d on't know what hour butthurt is but enjoy, esp if UK resident of certain age
glad I am not USA citizen.
this suit would stress me out, then oblige me to act irresponsibly.
honestly, yank universities ducking suck, and horribly, seem to be UK bound with this shit.
Seems so ironic given that years ago universities in the US considered themselves strongholds of free speech,students fought for it with protests, and now they've gone in the complete opposite direction, with students utilising 'safe spaces' etc to protect themselves from all matter of 'triggers' and bogey men. Now they fight for freedom from free speech.
There is an organisation (I forget the name) in the US working with Universities who's sole aim is to get public speakers that students find offensive disinvited if a certain number of people kick up a fuss.They also turn up at events and have people tick boxes on a card which lets them know if the lecture they just attended caused students 'Minimal', 'Moderate' or 'Maximum' offence. There is also another organisation (again, the name escapes me) that monitors this behaviour of afore mentioned organisation to figure out how many people are being 'offended', and to tally up what all this shit really means with regard to the current situation with free speech in universities.
To top it all off, at one US university, a speaker who came in to talk about the fact that if some students could have 'Safe Spaces', then other students should be able to have 'free speech spaces' was 'disinvited' after it was deemed he would have caused too much offence on campus.
Quote from: Major Carew on October 20, 2016, 11:46:13 PM
Seems so ironic given that years ago universities in the US considered themselves strongholds of free speech,students fought for it with protests, and now they've gone in the complete opposite direction, with students utilising 'safe spaces' etc to protect themselves from all matter of 'triggers' and bogey men. Now they fight for freedom from free speech.
There is an organisation (I forget the name) in the US working with Universities who's sole aim is to get public speakers that students find offensive disinvited if a certain number of people kick up a fuss.They also turn up at events and have people tick boxes on a card which lets them know if the lecture they just attended caused students 'Minimal', 'Moderate' or 'Maximum' offence. There is also another organisation (again, the name escapes me) that monitors this behaviour of afore mentioned organisation to figure out how many people are being 'offended', and to tally up what all this shit really means with regard to the current situation with free speech in universities.
To top it all off, at one US university, a speaker who came in to talk about the fact that if some students could have 'Safe Spaces', then other students should be able to have 'free speech spaces' was 'disinvited' after it was deemed he would have caused too much offence on campus.
these themes appear to be gaining control on universities all over the UK (based on oxford where I live)
as expressed before, university was a place to experience realities far from usual, abnormal, but safe
makes me nostalgic for 1983 etc
Quote from: Major Carew on October 20, 2016, 11:46:13 PM
Seems so ironic given that years ago universities in the US considered themselves strongholds of free speech,students fought for it with protests, and now they've gone in the complete opposite direction, with students utilising 'safe spaces' etc to protect themselves from all matter of 'triggers' and bogey men. Now they fight for freedom from free speech.
There is an organisation (I forget the name) in the US working with Universities who's sole aim is to get public speakers that students find offensive disinvited if a certain number of people kick up a fuss.They also turn up at events and have people tick boxes on a card which lets them know if the lecture they just attended caused students 'Minimal', 'Moderate' or 'Maximum' offence. There is also another organisation (again, the name escapes me) that monitors this behaviour of afore mentioned organisation to figure out how many people are being 'offended', and to tally up what all this shit really means with regard to the current situation with free speech in universities.
To top it all off, at one US university, a speaker who came in to talk about the fact that if some students could have 'Safe Spaces', then other students should be able to have 'free speech spaces' was 'disinvited' after it was deemed he would have caused too much offence on campus.
I'm offended at your continental spelling of offense.
Quote from: calaverasgrande on October 23, 2016, 02:40:36 AM
Quote from: Major Carew on October 20, 2016, 11:46:13 PM
Seems so ironic given that years ago universities in the US considered themselves strongholds of free speech,students fought for it with protests, and now they've gone in the complete opposite direction, with students utilising 'safe spaces' etc to protect themselves from all matter of 'triggers' and bogey men. Now they fight for freedom from free speech.
There is an organisation (I forget the name) in the US working with Universities who's sole aim is to get public speakers that students find offensive disinvited if a certain number of people kick up a fuss.They also turn up at events and have people tick boxes on a card which lets them know if the lecture they just attended caused students 'Minimal', 'Moderate' or 'Maximum' offence. There is also another organisation (again, the name escapes me) that monitors this behaviour of afore mentioned organisation to figure out how many people are being 'offended', and to tally up what all this shit really means with regard to the current situation with free speech in universities.
To top it all off, at one US university, a speaker who came in to talk about the fact that if some students could have 'Safe Spaces', then other students should be able to have 'free speech spaces' was 'disinvited' after it was deemed he would have caused too much offence on campus.
I'm offended at your continental spelling of offense.
please tick the relevant box on your card then.someone will be along shortly to offer counselling and a group hug
the prior interaction freaked me out to the max....
Newsflash: American women are fat
https://www.buzzfeed.com/chrissymahlmeister/anything-but-average?bffbhealth&utm_term=.rcgpgReG#.pfJPYv0j
The bigger the cushion
The sweeter the pushin'
That's what I said
The looser the waistband
The deeper the quicksand
Or so I have read...
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on October 25, 2016, 08:33:46 PM
Negan isn't emotional enough, the zombie apocalypse is joyless, and the writer had to "wait around" for twenty whole minutes.
http://www.revelist.com/tv/walking-dead-season-7-premiere/5403/others-bragged-that-they-made-that-decision-years-ago/10
I couldn't help but skim the comments section where I found this little quotable gem that I think sums it up perfectly:
QuoteJafin Lori • 19 hours ago
We watch TV to escape from reality, not to have a nasty idea of it shoved in our faces. And clearly I'm not the only one with problems with this.
At least people openly admit they desperately need an escape from the reality of their miserable lives and that's what they expect and demand from their safe little entertainment sources, making it all the more amusing haha...Ugh...
Quote from: Fluid Fetish on October 26, 2016, 12:20:51 AM
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on October 25, 2016, 08:33:46 PM
Negan isn't emotional enough, the zombie apocalypse is joyless, and the writer had to "wait around" for twenty whole minutes.
http://www.revelist.com/tv/walking-dead-season-7-premiere/5403/others-bragged-that-they-made-that-decision-years-ago/10
I couldn't help but skim the comments section where I found this little quotable gem that I think sums it up perfectly:
QuoteJafin Lori • 19 hours ago
We watch TV to escape from reality, not to have a nasty idea of it shoved in our faces. And clearly I'm not the only one with problems with this.
At least people openly admit they desperately need an escape from the reality of their miserable lives and that's what they expect and demand from their safe little entertainment sources, making it all the more amusing haha...Ugh...
semis that zombies, like vampires are neutered/ reduced to mirrors of society rather than threats to...
http://scarfolk.blogspot.co.uk/
always advocating this site to Anglo speakers and appreciators of this kind of humour.
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/oct/26/the-red-pill-melbourne-cinema-drops-mens-rights-film-after-feminist-backlash (https://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/oct/26/the-red-pill-melbourne-cinema-drops-mens-rights-film-after-feminist-backlash)
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on October 27, 2016, 03:46:55 AM
https://heatst.com/culture-wars/left-wing-berkeley-protesters-demand-spaces-of-color-harass-white-students-trying-to-pass/
After watching that protest video, I wanted to escape reality & bash brains in with a baseball bat wrapped in barb-wire...
Also:
https://heatst.com/culture-wars/rules-for-radicals-meet-the-extremist-berkeley-protesters-who-demand-spaces-of-color/
QuoteAnd, she added, "refrain yourself from trying to convince me that 'not all white people are bad'. I do not need you to, nor do they need you to. They have enough privilege already".
Lozano also said, "I am very well aware that not all 'white' people are bad", but added that she "tend to not feel safe or comfortable in spaces dominated by them – like this institution."
Not contradictory at all, makes perfect sense!
QuoteRegardless of what subject they teach, if a professor does not take the time to talk about the issues that directly affect their students, then the professor should not expect excellent student performance in their class. You need to CARE for your students.
"Mommy and Daddy and being raised with social networking have my entitled, sheltered millenial ass brainwashed into thinking the world owes me everything so teach me what I demand to be taught Professor otherwise don't expect me to care about my own education that my rich parents and the US government are paying for."
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on October 27, 2016, 03:46:55 AM
https://heatst.com/culture-wars/left-wing-berkeley-protesters-demand-spaces-of-color-harass-white-students-trying-to-pass/
After watching that protest video, I wanted to escape reality & bash brains in with a baseball bat wrapped in barb-wire... ********(This is a JOKE! I do not own a baseball bat or barb-wire! Nor do I harbor malice against Berkeley protestors or protestors anywhere!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)*********
Someone report this maniac. He clearly is a threat to my colored space.
Essex, may it go up in smoke
It's about as much fun as a tumour
Essex people can't take a joke
They've got absolutely no sense of humour....
haha my wife is from essex.
http://campusreform.org/?ID=8315
"This is happening right now in my school SUNY Potsdam college, this is extremely disgusting and sad that they would even find this funny. Imitating us BLACK people because clearly we are a joke ! I didn't find the humor in the video at all and me and my friends will be reporting them to the president of the school ... But be aware of your surroundings racism still exist � Every black person that seen this got offensive so I don't want to hear that "black faces" was them playing around."
"The school also assured the community that the University Police; the Division of Diversity, Equity and Inclusion; Residence Life; the Office of Student Conduct and Community Standards; and the Bias Response Team had all been alerted to the incident."
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on October 29, 2016, 10:00:43 PM
http://campusreform.org/?ID=8315
"This is happening right now in my school SUNY Potsdam college, this is extremely disgusting and sad that they would even find this funny. Imitating us BLACK people because clearly we are a joke ! I didn't find the humor in the video at all and me and my friends will be reporting them to the president of the school ... But be aware of your surroundings racism still exist � Every black person that seen this got offensive so I don't want to hear that "black faces" was them playing around."
"The school also assured the community that the University Police; the Division of Diversity, Equity and Inclusion; Residence Life; the Office of Student Conduct and Community Standards; and the Bias Response Team had all been alerted to the incident."
I know they won't read this but stupid fucking, touchy fucking, thin skinned fucking, humourless fucking retards
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on October 27, 2016, 03:39:17 PM
Essex, may it go up in smoke
It's about as much fun as a tumour
Essex people can't take a joke
They've got absolutely no sense of humour....
haha. your a poet and you don't know it!
these women ought to blame their older sisters and mothers
Essex may be aspirational and seemingly better, but the behaviours are all there in werthams 'memories from the pigsty'
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/panda-wrestles-man-who-sneaked-into-enclosure/ar-AAjCqiw?li=AA59G2&ocid=spartandhp
despite the poor overall quality, it looks like they have pixilated the panda for it's own security!
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on October 27, 2016, 03:46:55 AM
https://heatst.com/culture-wars/left-wing-berkeley-protesters-demand-spaces-of-color-harass-white-students-trying-to-pass/
After watching that protest video, I wanted to escape reality & bash brains in with a baseball bat wrapped in barb-wire... ********(This is a JOKE! I do not own a baseball bat or barb-wire! Nor do I harbor malice against Berkeley protestors or protestors anywhere!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)*********
Also:
https://heatst.com/culture-wars/rules-for-radicals-meet-the-extremist-berkeley-protesters-who-demand-spaces-of-color/
I didn't go to UCB, but used to work in that area. Cal students are universally reviled by service workers who have to interact with them. They are clueless, entitled and reflexively greedy.
I did go to another liberal college. I recall one class in which the local radical queer militia succeeded in steering every open discussion into a discussion about queer/feminist POC identity. It was a class on Nietzsche.
Quote from: Si Clark on October 27, 2016, 01:58:56 PM.
I'm sure there is an equivalent for Essex Girl in the US.
assumed this was valley girl (California specific) or mall rat(generic) given that Essex girl is both geospecific and an aspiration.
(https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/nintchdbpict000280981506-e1478667522778.jpg?w=760&strip=all)
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2146110/clinton-supporters-weep-as-trump-becomes-us-president/
Behold "The Left"!
(Hair by Florence of NY, makeup by D'narcy of NY, "Break The Glass Ceiling" tee $50.00 from You-Bitch-You of NY.)
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on November 09, 2016, 03:57:06 PM
Behold "The Left"!
(Hair by Florence of NY, makeup by D'narcy of NY, "Break The Glass Ceiling" tee $50.00 from You-Bitch-You of NY.)
Guffaw of the day! Thanks Andrew.
Meanwhile Kankle Mouth remains silent. Carrot Man sure put a sock in it good and proper. Not so smug now, is she?
So what do we learn? Don't patronise people and don't underestimate anyone! Nothing new really. Many, MANY liberal/lefty tears to be shed. Great times ahead!
The only post-election analysis I need was in fact created before the election:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1w4IxCXIxU
Today has been a day we shan't see the likes of soon.
Trump grabbed the people of US by the pussy
https://youtu.be/grD_IINiH9c
Quote from: Scat-O-Logy on November 10, 2016, 01:38:59 AM
Trump grabbed the people of US by the pussy
https://youtu.be/grD_IINiH9c
This is very accurate.
Quote from: BlackHole on November 10, 2016, 06:16:51 AM
Quote from: Scat-O-Logy on November 10, 2016, 01:38:59 AM
Trump grabbed the people of US by the pussy
https://youtu.be/grD_IINiH9c
This is very accurate.
#MakeAmericaGrabAgain
http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2016/11/09/white_women_sold_out_the_sisterhood_and_the_world_by_voting_for_trump.html (http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2016/11/09/white_women_sold_out_the_sisterhood_and_the_world_by_voting_for_trump.html)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/entry/dear-white-women-we-messed-this-up-election-2016_us_582341c9e4b0aac62488970e (http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/entry/dear-white-women-we-messed-this-up-election-2016_us_582341c9e4b0aac62488970e)
any of the americans here vote for trump?
Quote from: aububs on November 11, 2016, 11:07:53 PM
any of the americans here vote for trump?
If they did, they wouldn't say so, because they'd be... Oh wait, sorry, that was last week.:D:D:
Post-Mortem PC:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGDVp0IePFE
Sorry for this, but being Scandinavian I'm used to nothing but defeat, and being drunk I can't restrain my internet posting behaviour:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7I92r9GqUw&list=PLMQu74zA6R4tTJgJs8mBg4JpR_v9emN8Q&index=8
Quote from: BlackHole on November 10, 2016, 06:16:51 AM
Quote from: Scat-O-Logy on November 10, 2016, 01:38:59 AM
Trump grabbed the people of US by the pussy
https://youtu.be/grD_IINiH9c
This is very accurate.
given the male blue collar vote, surely this should be ' by the balls'
Quote from: Stoa on November 12, 2016, 12:41:16 AM
Sorry for this, but being Scandinavian I'm used to nothing but defeat, and being drunk I can't restrain my internet posting behaviour:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7I92r9GqUw&list=PLMQu74zA6R4tTJgJs8mBg4JpR_v9emN8Q&index=8
defeatist and drunk, my kind of attitude, and only an inch away from nihilistic and drunk.
go for it.
Quote from: aububs on November 11, 2016, 11:07:53 PM
any of the americans here vote for trump?
You did not ? How it feels ?
trump changes some policies like he never believed in the first place.
others he seems to check business rather than politics
Older article, only just found out about it -
https://metalmattersblog.wordpress.com/2016/07/27/the-shadow-over-metal-how-a-genres-inability-to-police-itself-has-reached-a-breaking-point/ (https://metalmattersblog.wordpress.com/2016/07/27/the-shadow-over-metal-how-a-genres-inability-to-police-itself-has-reached-a-breaking-point/)
From their "meet the team" page -
Quote...Nikki has been a fan of metal since 2015 but has yet to find her exact niche as most metal subgenres present as very exclusionary. Nikki is a meticulous researcher who has gone to great pains over the last 10 months to really understand metal by reading as much information as possible about different bands and scenes. While she does not listen to much metal, she is very well acquainted with the problematic nature of the genre and provides a much-needed and much-silenced perspective on the darker side of metal.
QuoteLance understands and accepts that he needs to broaden his horizons musically, and of course his current top 5 is subject to change.
And again from the article -
Quote...frankly metal needs more "scene tourists" to get involved and aggressively speak up.
Quote from: aububs on November 11, 2016, 11:07:53 PM
any of the americans here vote for trump?
I did not vote for Trump.
He is a fucking jackass.
Clinton was a disaster as well, but a status quo disaster.
Trump is going to fuck up so many things I don't have time to enumerate.
But to address the idea that he is a change agent, his transition staff is already chock full of industry lobbyists. His campaign financial advisers are all Wall st insiders. Nothing about DC power will be structurally changed by this guy. They are already elbow deep in his ass.
But the potential for social and economic fallout from his half baked ideas.
Hyuuuuuge.
I've already decided to call him Donald Turnip for the duration.
I'm part Estonian on my fathers side and I am really worried that an isolationist Trump could enable Russia to grab pieces of various Baltic states as it pleases. Not that Obama has done shit to stop Putin so far!
I personally don't think Trump is going to last 4 years in office. If he doesn't die of a heart attack or get assassinated, he will get impeached. I think he is just as scared as all the libs and SJW's crying about his victory. I doubt he really expected to get this far. Now he's laying in his bed going "fuck....that joke went to far"...
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on November 14, 2016, 02:25:35 AM
From their "meet the team" page -
Quote...Nikki has been a fan of metal since 2015 but has yet to find her exact niche as most metal subgenres present as very exclusionary. Nikki is a meticulous researcher who has gone to great pains over the last 10 months to really understand metal by reading as much information as possible about different bands and scenes. While she does not listen to much metal, she is very well acquainted with the problematic nature of the genre and provides a much-needed and much-silenced perspective on the darker side of metal.
QuoteLance understands and accepts that he needs to broaden his horizons musically, and of course his current top 5 is subject to change.
And again from the article -
Quote...frankly metal needs more "scene tourists" to get involved and aggressively speak up.
This has to be a joke...
(http://i1148.photobucket.com/albums/o580/bitewerks/CxFlxikXgAAWVBn.jpg%20large_zpsoumxsguf.jpg)
http://www.mediaite.com/online/dem-strategist-mocks-trump-supporter-beat-up-by-mob-oh-my-goodness-poor-white-people/
Whatever happens: any theories of a vast, intelligent Jewish/oligarch/Left-Wing conspiracy running the media is henceforth pretty much debunked. The so called "main stream media" and its owners couldn't conspire their way out of a donkey's rectum if their future credibility depended on it. Jesus tapdancing christ, do they suck. I can now make off-the-cuff comments ("Trump will quite probably win..", "The markets won't crash, since real capitalists always like republicans, and don't really need cheap migrant labour, nor ideological battles with Russia or Arab dictators...", etc) and beat any news outlet without even doing research. They just make shit up as they go along. Which is a problem, because I would love to read something about Trump and the future of the US that had any connection to reality and shit that could actually happen. And Russian world domination, economic collapse or new Jim Crow laws ain't it.
My predictions: NATO remains pretty much exactly the way it is (MAYBE the Trump administration will start up a friendlier relationship with Russia, but the American policy establishment would never allow a dismantling or severe weakening of NATO), something but not much is done about undocumented workerism, something more radical but not absolutely radical is done about "Obamacare", taxes are somewhat slashed, some kind of trade/tariff thing is done to keep a hold of those blue collar ex-democrats, and other than that, the world keeps on turning. To hope for something more extreme would be like hoping for Donald Trump winning the US presidential election or something.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on November 14, 2016, 08:39:19 PM
(http://i1148.photobucket.com/albums/o580/bitewerks/CxFlxikXgAAWVBn.jpg%20large_zpsoumxsguf.jpg)
http://www.mediaite.com/online/dem-strategist-mocks-trump-supporter-beat-up-by-mob-oh-my-goodness-poor-white-people/
Ist kvlt.
I can think of countless better ways to waste your time as a US citizen rather then actually investing energy, time or worst of all money into the political system over here. It's pretty clear who ACTUALLY runs this country, along with the entire occidental world, and it doesn't take a genius to realize it DEFINITELY isn't politicians and their rabid, insane flocks of followers and adherents who are so deluded that they actually believe that their leaders have their best interests in mind...I wouldn't be surprised if the Russians own most of Trump's debt hence him basically dropping to his knees in front of Putin every chance he gets. This guy has lost billions of dollars, currently has fraud charges against him, and hasn't filed his taxes in years, the list goes on. Utterly hilarious. Even more amusing is how people are attempting to cope with it...
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on November 14, 2016, 01:58:15 AM
Older article, only just found out about it -
https://metalmattersblog.wordpress.com/2016/07/27/the-shadow-over-metal-how-a-genres-inability-to-police-itself-has-reached-a-breaking-point/ (https://metalmattersblog.wordpress.com/2016/07/27/the-shadow-over-metal-how-a-genres-inability-to-police-itself-has-reached-a-breaking-point/)
https://metalmattersblog.wordpress.com/2016/07/23/the-voids-top-16-66666667-black-metal-albums/ (https://metalmattersblog.wordpress.com/2016/07/23/the-voids-top-16-66666667-black-metal-albums/)
This is great too. Because having a black member in a Metal band makes it a great album in itself, obviously!
Quote from: Si Clark on November 14, 2016, 02:14:50 AM
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on November 14, 2016, 01:58:15 AM
Older article, only just found out about it -
https://metalmattersblog.wordpress.com/2016/07/27/the-shadow-over-metal-how-a-genres-inability-to-police-itself-has-reached-a-breaking-point/ (https://metalmattersblog.wordpress.com/2016/07/27/the-shadow-over-metal-how-a-genres-inability-to-police-itself-has-reached-a-breaking-point/)
There's some crazy stuff on that blog. Re: Rob Halford not constantly talking about his sexuality - "he's literally living on the dead bodies of the youth who could have been saved if he had just said something."
This sentence is absolutely vomit inducing "There is no such thing as private sexuality anymore. It is more than just his business, it is everyone's business."
That article about Myrkur being the ultimate fulfillment of NSBM is also out of this world!
Metal blog is almost definitely fake or satirical, the Euronymous interview kind of gives it away...
But then again maybe I'm just mansplaining 'Nikki'.
yeah, didn't look until now but you can tell within 15 seconds it's a (pretty well done) joke. Looking forward to delving in more now.
Quote from: Petrificado on November 14, 2016, 12:28:00 PM
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on November 14, 2016, 02:25:35 AM
From their "meet the team" page -
Quote...Nikki has been a fan of metal since 2015 but has yet to find her exact niche as most metal subgenres present as very exclusionary. Nikki is a meticulous researcher who has gone to great pains over the last 10 months to really understand metal by reading as much information as possible about different bands and scenes. While she does not listen to much metal, she is very well acquainted with the problematic nature of the genre and provides a much-needed and much-silenced perspective on the darker side of metal.
QuoteLance understands and accepts that he needs to broaden his horizons musically, and of course his current top 5 is subject to change.
And again from the article -
Quote...frankly metal needs more "scene tourists" to get involved and aggressively speak up.
This has to be a joke...
This is very, very clearly a joke site making fun of SJW types and metal newcomers. Not particularly well done or funny, but obviously a parody site.
Oh, of course, Yosef thinks it's a parody site. He's in the pocket of the Black Metal Industrial Complex!
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on November 16, 2016, 04:32:58 AM
Oh, of course, Yosef thinks it's a parody site. He's in the pocket of the Black Metal Industrial Complex!
"We must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the black metal industrial complex."- Dwight D. Eisenhower.
Can anyone tell anymore? I thought the Euronymous "interview" was their attempt at being funny. Mind you, having someone who doesn't want anyone to contact "her" could be a giveaway too.
real or fake.
why would anyone care anymore?
mayhem were rubbish before third 'début' de mysterys...
everythiwngbelse is down to mythologyof bands/members that do not deserve the attention.
^agreed. I've always thought Mayhem were the worst out of all the 2nd wave Norwegian bands.
Fascist Trump Neo-Nazi's are taking over!
http://gothamist.com/2016/11/18/adam_yauch_park_swastikas.php
I hope this is real:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38037187
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on November 20, 2016, 02:56:45 AM
Fascist Trump Neo-Nazi's are taking over!
http://gothamist.com/2016/11/18/adam_yauch_park_swastikas.php
I hope this is real:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38037187
the fart thing clearly is. love the directness if it's originator in drawing attention to ignoring of their state/county
if that is all Canadians have to worry about...
Quote from: david lloyd jones on November 17, 2016, 07:53:20 PM
real or fake.
why would anyone care anymore?
mayhem were rubbish before third 'début' de mysterys...
everythiwngbelse is down to mythologyof bands/members that do not deserve the attention.
couldnt agree more. All Ive ever got from mayhem was the mythos around the members. The music itself wasnt my thing at all. I understand that they were influental but influnetal doesnt equal good, at least in my books.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/police-east-york-alt-right-posters-kindness-smiles-1.3851454
"The posters, of which there are at least a half dozen..."
I don't know how many a half dozen is in Canada but in Texas, it's six. Six, racist, hateful posters that stopped people in their tracks. Big trouble up there in The Great White North.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on November 26, 2016, 12:35:47 AM
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/police-east-york-alt-right-posters-kindness-smiles-1.3851454
"The posters, of which there are at least a half dozen..."
I don't know how many a half dozen is in Canada but in Texas, it's six. Six, racist, hateful posters that stopped people in their tracks. Big trouble up there in The Great White North.
alt right still seems up for discussion in uk-is it ukip, further right than that, is it important, or another far right splinter of no importance?
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/outrage-over-racist-pak%C3%A9mon-stickers-posted-at-tube-stations-targeting-dangerous-london-mayor-sadiq-khan/ar-AAkO2SK?li=AAdeCd7&ocid=spartandhp
The writer wasn't paid to write this:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/nov/28/alt-right-online-poison-racist-bigot-sam-harris-milo-yiannopoulos-islamophobia
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on November 28, 2016, 07:53:29 PM
The writer wasn't paid to write this:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/nov/28/alt-right-online-poison-racist-bigot-sam-harris-milo-yiannopoulos-islamophobia
funny as he'll, almost Chris morris
New five pound note: Not suitable for vegetarians
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-38144598
The comments on the wanky petition page are great to read - https://www.change.org/p/bank-of-england-remove-tallow-from-bank-notes/c
if porkmeat as well, then may exclude Jews and Muslims!
these folks may insist on magic beans as opposed to porky pounds!
I know FreakAnimalFinland was a bit annoyed earlier that this thread just focused on boring ass "click bait" type link mashing, with someone posting a link to some article headlined "Marxist professor says White People are Gay", and everyone agreeing that that's just plain false, and bemoaning PC. I think that's a valid point. I have another observation.
Has anyone noticed that "mainstream media" as well as the "PC Left" all of a sudden feel old and tired? There are similarities with something like American Evangelicals, in the sense that the values they hold dear are still pretty powerful (in certain circles) and they still have quite a bit of political clout, but all in all they feel somewhat out of touch and "on the wrong side of history". Their scandalizing articles feel more and more like some crap put out by Al Gore about the dangers of Rock and Roll and Rap, rather than politically relevant analysis. When the New York Times writes about the Donald Hitler, or when some boring homo writes an article accusing the far less boring homo Milo Yiannopoulos of islamophobia, isn't it obvious that the Donald Hitler and the Milo are far more fun than the New York Times? Does anyone buy into shit like "Black Lives Matter", and believe that Alabama Cops lynching black babies is a thing?
I'm not really making a case for hope, not at all, but it is kind of nice to see that the "progressive" crowd seems ever more out of touch. And the situation is actually far worse for them than it may seem, since you still have a huge pile of (older) people largely relying on the "MSM" for their information, and as they die, things will change (though they of course have replacements in the hysterical "not my president"-crowd, but I have a hunch these people are not as plentiful as it may seem). All that being said, there's still way too little quality stuff to replace the old media. While I, as someone standing slightly to the right of Tamerlane, would love to defend stuff like Breitbart without qualification, I still have to admit that they are superior only in a very limited sense (i.e. "white people are ok" and "immigration blows"), and otherwise pretty much tabloids. Being older now, I would have preferred a world in which the mainstream alternatives were flexible and decent enough to actually answer to the needs of... Well, anyone. There will be problems when this shit fails, I tells ya.
Still, it's all pretty dar'n exiting.
Quote from: Stoa on November 30, 2016, 11:33:11 PM
Has anyone noticed that "mainstream media" as well as the "PC Left" all of a sudden feel old and tired? There are similarities with something like American Evangelicals, in the sense that the values they hold dear are still pretty powerful (in certain circles) and they still have quite a bit of political clout, but all in all they feel somewhat out of touch and "on the wrong side of history".
They are pretty much the exact same thing. As far as music and film, their attitudes reflect exactly that of things like the Parental Advisory sticker and MPAA do's and don'ts. And within society they are kind of like the new Moral Majority. Guess it all kind of comes full circle. The left has just become a more extreme version of their hippy grandparents. The grandparents had something to actually fight for, but today they have to search for, and often make up, what they are fighting.
Stoa, do you not think the left became a stagnant establishment many years ago? Hardly a revelation, is it? What's changed is perhaps that there's an ever growing number of people mocking or simply not paying attention to them anymore. It's not that Trump signalled the beginning of the end of the left, it signalled the loudest declaration so far that the cultural marxist agenda is in decline. Like I said to a fellow traveller based in Australia regarding the protests after the US election, they are as square as a Bob Hope concert in the late 60's. That's what they've allowed themselves to become. Square and reactionary.
Having said that, and perhaps to the surprise to the kind who label anyone a right wing racist for simply not being left wing, I predict a very annoying right to become ever louder and as annoying as the left has been soon enough. But before that I think we will witness the left getting crazier and more aggressive. Call it an extinction burst.
Interesting times ahead.
Quote from: GEWALTMONOPOL on December 01, 2016, 03:03:08 AM
Having said that, and perhaps to the surprise to the kind who label anyone a right wing racist for simply not being left wing, I predict a very annoying right to become ever louder and as annoying as the left has been soon enough. But before that I think we will witness the left getting crazier and more aggressive. Call it an extinction burst.
Interesting times ahead.
I think the same exact thing. It's already somewhat happening really.
I caught up with a couple of old mates recently who I knew from the anarchist days who are still as left wing as they come, and I found talking to them remarkably easy because they also see the left in decline and recognise it. That might be, though, because they are older and more from a union-left kind of background. At least the oldest of them is and told me that he's been to union meetings with new, young types just out of university talking to groups of grizzled workers who have no idea what the hell they're saying. The past couple of decades has seen the left disappear up its own arse, leaving behind too many people who would normally accept its messages.
The right won the economic war, the only war that mattered. The cultural squabbling is just so much bullshit. Alt-right dickheads versus "progressives"? I don't give a shit, I'm gonna die starving in a gutter. I'll still post here for a good old smirk until then.
Fuck, I wish the times got boring.
"Like I said to a fellow traveller based in Australia regarding the protests after the US election, they are as square as a Bob Hope concert in the late 60's. That's what they've allowed themselves to become. Square and reactionary". quote from martin unrest
protesters also appear largely young/student and having seen footage on TV this am was wondering how much college 'safe space' and 'no
platforming' means that these people just cannot deal with anything contrary to their experience (and usually from the real world outside of college) similar to uk with those wishing the 'brevity' vote away.
Anyone for a snag?
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/dec/07/protesters-gatecrash-aacta-awards-red-carpet-chanting-end-the-sausage-party (https://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/dec/07/protesters-gatecrash-aacta-awards-red-carpet-chanting-end-the-sausage-party)
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on December 07, 2016, 11:48:58 AM
Anyone for a snag?
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/dec/07/protesters-gatecrash-aacta-awards-red-carpet-chanting-end-the-sausage-party (https://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/dec/07/protesters-gatecrash-aacta-awards-red-carpet-chanting-end-the-sausage-party)
What a bunch of turds
Quote from: Scat-O-Logy on December 08, 2016, 01:22:25 AM
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on December 07, 2016, 11:48:58 AM
Anyone for a snag?
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/dec/07/protesters-gatecrash-aacta-awards-red-carpet-chanting-end-the-sausage-party (https://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/dec/07/protesters-gatecrash-aacta-awards-red-carpet-chanting-end-the-sausage-party)
What a bunch of turds
sausage/turd humour is always great.
What is a "snag"?
http://reason.com/blog/2016/12/09/leftist-students-shouted-fck-you-bitch-a
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on December 09, 2016, 07:40:15 PM
What is a "snag"?
http://reason.com/blog/2016/12/09/leftist-students-shouted-fck-you-bitch-a
re reason.con
eventually spastic gaylords will protest against themselves and stay indoors afraid of their own thoughts.
I'm butthurt, I'm very lonely, I'm gay and I eat shit. :'(
QuoteReed College, by the way charges, $50,000 a year for tuition. The opportunity to scream insults at a queer film director whose perspective is mildly different from today's leftist students is certainly an expensive privilege
The irony of shouting "fuck your respectability politics" is pretty funny. LOVE that movie - bleak small-town atmosphere, sexual confusion, violence - and a really attractive lead actress. I think I'll watch it tonight. Shit, and how could I forget, Chloe Sevigny's tits?
"I teach at Reed. I am intimidated by these students. I am scared to teach courses on race, gender, or sexuality, or even texts that bring these issues up in any way—and I am a gay mixed-race woman. There is a serious problem here and at other [selective liberal arts colleges], and I'm at a loss as to how to begin to address it, especially since many of these students don't believe in either historicity or objective facts. (They denounce the latter as being a tool of the white cisheteropatriarchy.)"
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on December 09, 2016, 07:40:15 PM
http://reason.com/blog/2016/12/09/leftist-students-shouted-fck-you-bitch-a
Oh, the bigots from every side make this world so much more interesting place to live in.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on December 13, 2016, 09:38:49 PM
"I teach at Reed. I am intimidated by these students. I am scared to teach courses on race, gender, or sexuality, or even texts that bring these issues up in any way—and I am a gay mixed-race woman. There is a serious problem here and at other [selective liberal arts colleges], and I'm at a loss as to how to begin to address it, especially since many of these students don't believe in either historicity or objective facts. (They denounce the latter as being a tool of the white cisheteropatriarchy.)"
I believe you Yankees have a perfectly adequate response to this degree of over privilege involving firearms, resentment and deathwish
whilst your presence on site will be missed, think of the tribute releases!.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on December 18, 2016, 11:07:30 PM
http://www.feministcurrent.com/2016/12/16/national-geographic-gender-revolution-cover-fails-women/
This is difficult to believe but there are some very over the top, emotional responses in the comments section following the article.
bored before I began to scroll down, regretted scrolling down, ESP in remembering my last post regarding the 'lost Russian family' and true hardship.
transgender boys berated for liking pink is truly, why Isis and their ilk see us as degenerate and decadent, thus worth fighting.
No Whites Allowed.
http://mubzonline.com/
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on December 22, 2016, 10:50:53 PM
No Whites Allowed.
http://mubzonline.com/
I'm tempted to think that's a parody site...
Quote from: Peterson on December 22, 2016, 11:22:07 PM
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on December 22, 2016, 10:50:53 PM
No Whites Allowed.
http://mubzonline.com/
I'm tempted to think that's a parody site...
That's because you're a racist white man.
"HAVE YOU EVER WONDERED WHAT IT'S LIKE TO BE A BLACK GIRL?"
Story of my life girl!
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on December 22, 2016, 11:35:06 PM
Quote from: Peterson on December 22, 2016, 11:22:07 PM
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on December 22, 2016, 10:50:53 PM
No Whites Allowed.
http://mubzonline.com/
I'm tempted to think that's a parody site...
That's because you're a racist white man.
But I could've sworn I checked my privilege when I came in...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4071692/Gorilla-gang-leader-jail-son-wants-sing-hip-hop-Animated-kids-movie-Sing-social-media-users-outraged-racist-stereotypes.html
Rapping gorillas=racist
Yep
Quote from: Scat-O-Logy on December 29, 2016, 10:53:55 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4071692/Gorilla-gang-leader-jail-son-wants-sing-hip-hop-Animated-kids-movie-Sing-social-media-users-outraged-racist-stereotypes.html
Rapping gorillas=racist
Yep
but true
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GokdgkmBvmg
I like the piano music.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on January 03, 2017, 08:15:51 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GokdgkmBvmg
I like the piano music.
the music sucked-total rip off of the pianist oat
pics sucked too
remember hostel 2?
remember the needy nerd who got her throat etc scythe for a bathory bath?
her younger thinner cuter lookalike is in the seat opposite me in the pub and my thoughts are not pure.
Quote from: david lloyd jones on January 07, 2017, 09:12:49 PM
remember hostel 2?
remember the needy nerd who got her throat etc scythe for a bathory bath?
her younger thinner cuter lookalike is in the seat opposite me in the pub and my thoughts are not pure.
Careful with that scythe, David
or
Is that a scythe in your pocket or are you just glad to see me?
I'll get my coat.
I'll be yer reaper, baby
Yer lookin' ripe in my eyes
I'll be yer reaper, baby
I'll cut you down to size...
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on January 10, 2017, 01:57:58 AM
Why would anyone want a 'perturbed plumber' in their home?
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/818121919203594240
I thought all plumbers were perturbed, whenever I've hired one, they spend half the time they aren't down there berating you for not being able to fix everything yourself, as if you hadn't already tried!!
But seriously, many neurotic lefties love to mistreat the dirty underclass servicepeople: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDq48FU4NZg
"Thank you, delivery boy, now here's a lot of money, go away quickly."
"If my gynaecologist regularly hosted neo-Nazi rallies in the exam room, I would find someone else to swab my cervix."
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jan/03/ive-left-twitter-unusable-anyone-but-trolls-robots-dictators-lindy-west
Quote"The chance to vet your instincts against those of people much smarter and better informed than you."
A bit late to the party, but still - http://diversitymachtfrei.blogspot.com/2017/01/miss-helsinki-2017-ever-get-feeling.html (http://diversitymachtfrei.blogspot.com/2017/01/miss-helsinki-2017-ever-get-feeling.html) - what better way to promote XE's brand new album?
Quote from: 64 on January 13, 2017, 12:27:23 AM
A bit late to the party, but still - http://diversitymachtfrei.blogspot.com/2017/01/miss-helsinki-2017-ever-get-feeling.html (http://diversitymachtfrei.blogspot.com/2017/01/miss-helsinki-2017-ever-get-feeling.html) - what better way to promote XE's brand new album?
Everyone who voted her should spend a night with her as punishment. Are we sure she hasn't a dick ? Even better ! Surprise !
Maybe she could be the next Miss Auschwitz too? All in the name of progress of corpse!
(http://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15895424_10211002520400881_1952925826982474022_n.jpg?oh=f7dd50ccbe4b7fc1f4fd9534c3307cd8&oe=58DD574F)
Quote from: Scat-O-Logy on January 13, 2017, 03:04:12 AM
Maybe she could be the next Miss Auschwitz too? All in the name of progress of corpse!
(http://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15895424_10211002520400881_1952925826982474022_n.jpg?oh=f7dd50ccbe4b7fc1f4fd9534c3307cd8&oe=58DD574F)
woof woof!
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jan/13/school-under-fire-over-trip-for-five-year-olds-to-see-reindeer-slaughter (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jan/13/school-under-fire-over-trip-for-five-year-olds-to-see-reindeer-slaughter)
Quote...where some people accused the school of "making sure we get more psychopaths among us" and said "people who are killing animals are not far away [from] killing human beings".
Haha, yeah. Sure, that's the cause.
Quote from: Theodore on January 13, 2017, 02:29:40 AM
Quote from: 64 on January 13, 2017, 12:27:23 AM
A bit late to the party, but still - http://diversitymachtfrei.blogspot.com/2017/01/miss-helsinki-2017-ever-get-feeling.html (http://diversitymachtfrei.blogspot.com/2017/01/miss-helsinki-2017-ever-get-feeling.html) - what better way to promote XE's brand new album?
Everyone who voted her should spend a night with her as punishment. Are we sure she hasn't a dick ? Even better ! Surprise !
Given the recent developments in Scandinavian countries, I'm really not sure those who voted her would consider it punishment.
Miss Auschwitz by all means but the joint will only ever have one Queen...
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/d5/9b/30/d59b309bcf181ea32e8cb98c820faab0.jpg)
Quote from: GEWALTMONOPOL on January 15, 2017, 01:52:52 AM
Miss Auschwitz by all means but the joint will only ever have one Queen...
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/d5/9b/30/d59b309bcf181ea32e8cb98c820faab0.jpg)
woof woof again!
Quote from: GEWALTMONOPOL on January 15, 2017, 01:52:52 AM
Miss Auschwitz by all means but the joint will only ever have one Queen...
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/d5/9b/30/d59b309bcf181ea32e8cb98c820faab0.jpg)
^ Which film is the still from?
The Night Porter
Thanks- will add it to my list to watch.
Quote from: cantle on January 20, 2017, 05:30:50 AM
Thanks- will add it to my list to watch.
more arty and less exploitive than the image implies, but psychologically deeper (no contest there really) than other itallo Nazi films
Quote from: david lloyd jones on January 20, 2017, 06:46:02 PM
Quote from: cantle on January 20, 2017, 05:30:50 AM
Thanks- will add it to my list to watch.
more arty and less exploitive than the image implies, but psychologically deeper (no contest there really) than other itallo Nazi films
Sounds good then- my only contact with the genre is Ilsa She Wolf of the SS
Quote from: cantle on January 21, 2017, 02:40:49 AM
Quote from: david lloyd jones on January 20, 2017, 06:46:02 PM
Quote from: cantle on January 20, 2017, 05:30:50 AM
Thanks- will add it to my list to watch.
more arty and less exploitive than the image implies, but psychologically deeper (no contest there really) than other itallo Nazi films
Sounds good then- my only contact with the genre is Ilsa She Wolf of the SS
SS Experiment Camp is my favourite of all that lot, with the evil Nazi rapist getting his testicles transplant - camp is the operative word. The Night Porter had a great and probably life-changing effect on me as a teenager but it seemed a little overwrought and melodramatic when I re-watched last year despite the breathtaking performance strengths of Bogarde and Rampling. A wonderful scene - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZKkI3GxfD8
I found "The Night Porter" too slow and dragging, whereas "S.S. Experiment Camp" is one of the best films (of its' genre) that I've seen. I remember "The Night Porter" being on BBC 2 late one night whilst I was in my teens ....
Thanks very much to all the right-on women and "allies" who went to the anti Trump rally in Melbourne, Australia which is so very close to the USA and holding up the trams so I was late to get to work today. You're absolutely correct as always, looking after old and sick people is nowhere near as important as fucking over public transport so you can take selfies and feel good about yourselves.
but Andrew, you don't understand that the old and sick will die soon and selfies are forever.
as is posting on forums- hope you did this whilst at work
Quote from: Steve on January 21, 2017, 01:21:19 PM
I found "The Night Porter" too slow and dragging, whereas "S.S. Experiment Camp" is one of the best films (of its' genre) that I've seen. I remember "The Night Porter" being on BBC 2 late one night whilst I was in my teens ....
I'm butthurt because I can only find SS Experiment Camp on blueray and I only have a dvd player.
Quote from: Deadpriest on January 21, 2017, 06:18:30 PM
Quote from: Steve on January 21, 2017, 01:21:19 PM
I found "The Night Porter" too slow and dragging, whereas "S.S. Experiment Camp" is one of the best films (of its' genre) that I've seen. I remember "The Night Porter" being on BBC 2 late one night whilst I was in my teens ....
I'm butthurt because I can only find SS Experiment Camp on blueray and I only have a dvd player.
look again. my DVD copy is from another world entertainment (in a box of 4nazisploitation 'treats'- as also available individually, shouldn't be too hard to track
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look again. my DVD copy is from another world entertainment (in a box of 4nazisploitation 'treats'- as also available individually, shouldn't be too hard to track
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Thanks dude. ^-^
Quote from: david lloyd jones on January 21, 2017, 06:37:08 PM
look again. my DVD copy is from another world entertainment (in a box of 4nazisploitation 'treats'- as also available individually, shouldn't be too hard to track
\m/ Amazon.com thanks dude
I'm still generally butthurt (don't ask)
Quote from: Deadpriest on January 21, 2017, 06:56:30 PM
I'm still generally butthurt (don't ask)
seeing all that trapped wind in your profile photo, I'm not surprised
maybe you should swap the booze for chillie sauce
Quote from: david lloyd jones on January 21, 2017, 07:40:23 PM
Quote from: Deadpriest on January 21, 2017, 06:56:30 PM
I'm still generally butthurt (don't ask)
seeing all that trapped wind in your profile photo, I'm not surprised
maybe you should swap the booze for chillie sauce
I wouldn't want to hurt the baby.
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on January 21, 2017, 03:52:57 PM
Thanks very much to all the right-on women and "allies" who went to the anti Trump rally in Melbourne, Australia which is so very close to the USA and holding up the trams so I was late to get to work today. You're absolutely correct as always, looking after old and sick people is nowhere near as important as fucking over public transport so you can take selfies and feel good about yourselves.
They were going to work too. Soros pays.
Quote from: Deadpriest on January 21, 2017, 09:29:46 PM
Quote from: david lloyd jones on January 21, 2017, 07:40:23 PM
Quote from: Deadpriest on January 21, 2017, 06:56:30 PM
I'm still generally butthurt (don't ask)
seeing all that trapped wind in your profile photo, I'm not surprised
maybe you should swap the booze for chillie sauce
I wouldn't want to hurt the baby.
you sure there's a baby there?
seen so many constipated ladies that beat that bump.
Quote from: david lloyd jones on January 22, 2017, 09:12:14 PM
Quote from: Deadpriest on January 21, 2017, 09:29:46 PM
Quote from: david lloyd jones on January 21, 2017, 07:40:23 PM
Quote from: Deadpriest on January 21, 2017, 06:56:30 PM
I'm still generally butthurt (don't ask)
seeing all that trapped wind in your profile photo, I'm not surprised
maybe you should swap the booze for chillie sauce
I wouldn't want to hurt the baby.
you sure there's a baby there?
seen so many constipated ladies that beat that bump.
Nah I fucking live on those Activia yogurts.
Quote from: Deadpriest on January 22, 2017, 09:34:37 PM
Quote from: david lloyd jones on January 22, 2017, 09:12:14 PM
Quote from: Deadpriest on January 21, 2017, 09:29:46 PM
Quote from: david lloyd jones on January 21, 2017, 07:40:23 PM
Quote from: Deadpriest on January 21, 2017, 06:56:30 PM
I'm still generally butthurt (don't ask)
seeing all that trapped wind in your profile photo, I'm not surprised
maybe you should swap the booze for chillie sauce
I wouldn't want to hurt the baby.
you sure there's a baby there?
seen so many constipated ladies that beat that bump.
Nah I fucking live on those Activia yogurts.
then you are one fat batch-all that yoghurt would have pooped the little bastard out months ago.
Quote from: david lloyd jones on January 22, 2017, 10:03:42 PM
Quote from: Deadpriest on January 22, 2017, 09:34:37 PM
Quote from: david lloyd jones on January 22, 2017, 09:12:14 PM
Quote from: Deadpriest on January 21, 2017, 09:29:46 PM
Quote from: david lloyd jones on January 21, 2017, 07:40:23 PM
Quote from: Deadpriest on January 21, 2017, 06:56:30 PM
I'm still generally butthurt (don't ask)
seeing all that trapped wind in your profile photo, I'm not surprised
maybe you should swap the booze for chillie sauce
I wouldn't want to hurt the baby.
you sure there's a baby there?
seen so many constipated ladies that beat that bump.
Nah I fucking live on those Activia yogurts.
then you are one fat batch-all that yoghurt would have pooped the little bastard out months ago.
My shits are perfect and babyless sir!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vMxDSeqyq0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vMxDSeqyq0)
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on January 26, 2017, 03:12:23 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vMxDSeqyq0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vMxDSeqyq0)
as it should be
I'm butthurt at myself for being rude.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on January 30, 2017, 08:46:25 PM
https://ageofshitlords.com/why-do-feminists-always-draw-themselves-to-look-thinner/
(http://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/65/ca/ee/65caee454290c187d450821fb3daace2.jpg)
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on January 30, 2017, 08:46:25 PM
https://ageofshitlords.com/why-do-feminists-always-draw-themselves-to-look-thinner/
To be fair those look like generic button nosed avatars. Not like ones a person concocted themselves.
The real outrage is there are not more awkward thick legged generic avatars!
Won't someone stand up for awkward looking people?
Do you know how hard it is to find pants that
fit?
So this is silly...
http://www.peta.org.uk/blog/peta-warhammer-fur-free/
A new Trigglypuff has emerged! http://youtu.be/Qrwl2kdt3KE
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/feb/08/women-argentina-topless-protest-right-to-sunbathe-semi-nude (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/feb/08/women-argentina-topless-protest-right-to-sunbathe-semi-nude)
QuoteThe protest drew a large number of male gawkers, prompting chants of "Get out" from women demonstrators.
"Look at us!
Stop looking at us!"
Quote from: Scat-O-Logy on February 07, 2017, 06:55:54 PM
A new Trigglypuff has emerged! http://youtu.be/Qrwl2kdt3KE
don't know what trigglypuff means unless it is ugly fat leftie lesbian type.
Quote from: david lloyd jones on February 08, 2017, 08:02:20 PM
don't know what trigglypuff means unless it is ugly fat leftie lesbian type.
An easily triggered jigglypuff I believe
I like chocolate milk.
https://mic.com/articles/168188/milk-nazis-white-supremacists-creamy-pseudo-science-trump-shia-labeouf#.O2DYosQKe
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on February 11, 2017, 12:13:41 AM
I like chocolate milk.
https://mic.com/articles/168188/milk-nazis-white-supremacists-creamy-pseudo-science-trump-shia-labeouf#.O2DYosQKe
but where does this leave the modern cheese lover?
Horrifying and shocking, worst experience ever.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/tennis/article-4216772/US-apologise-Nazi-era-German-anthem-performed.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/tennis/article-4216772/US-apologise-Nazi-era-German-anthem-performed.html)
Shia LeBoef is a douche nozzle.
But so are the idiots that think there is a correlation between being white and lactase enzyme.
That video seemed more about homoeroticism than racialism.
Though I did watch all the way to the end, hoping to see some demonstration of white powers. At least levitation or telekinesis.
Quote from: cr on February 12, 2017, 02:10:06 PM
Horrifying and shocking, worst experience ever.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/tennis/article-4216772/US-apologise-Nazi-era-German-anthem-performed.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/tennis/article-4216772/US-apologise-Nazi-era-German-anthem-performed.html)
ironic considering god German tennis players are rare as hens teeth these days!
http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Nazi+Skinhead+Music&&view=detail&mid=66BE0DEF957A77D2E86A66BE0DEF957A77D2E86A&rvsmid=5273CC0735DB363884DB5273CC0735DB363884DB&fsscr=13&FORM=VDFSRV
this interested
http://www.video.mediaset.it/video/iene/puntata/roma-orge-e-prostituzione-e-palazzo-chigi-paga_692434.html
Italian antidiscrimination sector of the governament funds gay brothels, darkrooms, etc. classic
Quote from: tiny_tove on February 20, 2017, 10:22:02 PM
http://www.video.mediaset.it/video/iene/puntata/roma-orge-e-prostituzione-e-palazzo-chigi-paga_692434.html
Italian antidiscrimination sector of the governament funds gay brothels, darkrooms, etc. classic
I want to build a Noise Party. With the modified electoral law maybe we will make some (interesting) noise in the lower house.
about as radical as farting in the bath.
Quote from: david lloyd jones on February 24, 2017, 03:25:30 PM
about as radical as farting in the bath.
Farting in the bath would be illegal.
http://www.deathmetal.org/article/hipsters-fetishize-cassettes/#more-28344
I dont usually post to this topic (although, its quite rare that I even post here soooooooo). Anyway, I find this whining quite funny (although its still about as irritating about their non stop posts about antifa, cultural marxism, feminism and what the fuck ever.).
I've also noticed the term "black bodies" being used by various right-on types before. I'm sure it's got some academic origin. There seems to be an obssession with how people are represented, rather than how people actually are. Image is everything.
people are not individuals,
hence the phrase 'it's a black thing...'
then again...
Quote from: tiny_tove on February 20, 2017, 10:22:02 PM
http://www.video.mediaset.it/video/iene/puntata/roma-orge-e-prostituzione-e-palazzo-chigi-paga_692434.html
Italian antidiscrimination sector of the governament funds gay brothels, darkrooms, etc. classic
when you say darkrooms, do you mean somewhere that homes can develope their films?
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/mum-urged-son-to-kill-his-older-brother-before-he-was-attacked-on-sofa-with-knife/ar-AAo6Yen?li=AAmiR2Z&ocid=spartandhp
kkk still gets no, no, no, as reply
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on March 15, 2017, 08:18:08 PM
http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1363460716677484
Lesbians should be thanking ruling hetero's for making them who they are...
if lesbians can put up with reading this, they are better men than I...
So lesbian butch and femme style relationships are the result of patriarchal society and lesbians exist because of the constant threat of rape? Wow, makes perfect sense....
Quote from: Peterson on March 16, 2017, 02:11:41 AM
a very liberal friend once explained to me and an "exclusive top" gay friend that his unwillingness to get fucked in his ass was a result of internalized homophobia, and not his preferences.
So presumably this guy offers his own arse to gay cock so he can walk his own talk?
Oh dear, there's my inner patriarchy exposed for assuming someone telling a gay guy to take it up the arse for preference equality would be a man. I should have known feminists know more about gay men then gay men.
Yea, as long as they've got the "right" literature, they've got all the answers. I quite liked the "How to Become a Lesbian in 30 Minutes", actually. Reminded me that there were right-on chicks calling themselves "lesbians" even though they weren't. It was a "political statement", not how you swung. Changing the definitions of words is an old con trick.
re: current uk terror attack.
I am ashamed that our home grown terrorists have so few victims compared to our European allies
it's not difficult guys- a vehicle, a blade...
bad as our sports teams...
yes, I know people are dead, but how am I supposed to get home?
as ever the culprit is a minor criminal with loads of low level offences, foreign, etc, perfect suicide fodder for this kind of shit.
police should look more at the periferal riffraff for likely suspects not the smart, high profile types.
just as likely to die in drug feud as anything.
god knows I have seen several likeliest over the years with regard my work.
Sisters are doing it for themselves.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-05-29/islamic-state-why-women-join/7322266 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-05-29/islamic-state-why-women-join/7322266)
QuoteThese women are also seeking a sense of empowerment through the unrestrained ability to practice Islam, a right that is often curtailed in their respective countries. This facet of mobilisation is inextricably linked to growing societal polarisation, augmented by high levels of Islamophobia. These sentiments persist arguably due to the rise of anti-immigration policies and the growing number of hate crimes against women donning the hijab in European societies. In this way, the Muslim women joining IS, like the men, are seeking a society where they are not discriminated against for their faith — a stark contrast to the alienation and disenfranchisement they are exposed to in the West.
Would love to hide a recorder in a booth:
https://heatst.com/culture-wars/canadian-university-setting-up-booths-where-men-can-confess-sins-of-masculinity/
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on March 28, 2017, 08:14:17 PM
Would love to hide a recorder in a booth:
https://heatst.com/culture-wars/canadian-university-setting-up-booths-where-men-can-confess-sins-of-masculinity/
hahaha!
some potentially really good material for sampling to say the least.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on March 28, 2017, 08:14:17 PM
Would love to hide a recorder in a booth:
https://heatst.com/culture-wars/canadian-university-setting-up-booths-where-men-can-confess-sins-of-masculinity/
surely a shotgun in the booth to shoot the pussywhipped would be better than taping their confessions.
soft fascism incarnate.
as an old, politically incorrect reprobate, this whole new cultural paradigm of protective censorship is alien to me.
anyone care to explain?
this fungus seems to be taking hold in uk.
"Violence helped ensure safety of students."
https://www.wsj.com/articles/jonathan-haidt-on-the-cultural-roots-of-campus-rage-1491000676
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on April 02, 2017, 02:57:22 AM
"Violence helped ensure safety of students."
https://www.wsj.com/articles/jonathan-haidt-on-the-cultural-roots-of-campus-rage-1491000676
students help ensure safe violence.
Nearly half a year old news but I only found out today.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-10-12/toowoomba-leaders-push-for-city-free-of-porn/7923478?sf38645514=1 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-10-12/toowoomba-leaders-push-for-city-free-of-porn/7923478?sf38645514=1)
http://bloodlust.blogspot.com.au/2017/03/mark-solotroff-statement.html (http://bloodlust.blogspot.com.au/2017/03/mark-solotroff-statement.html)
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on April 04, 2017, 11:19:19 AM
http://bloodlust.blogspot.com.au/2017/03/mark-solotroff-statement.html (http://bloodlust.blogspot.com.au/2017/03/mark-solotroff-statement.html)
Even those antifa guys wouldn't dream of their move to be so "productive" . If they were not so dedicated to their stupidity, on their own, no matter what ... I would say statements like this, as a result of their actions, are what keeps them continue. So mr. Solotroff you may can perform "freely" now , but someone else, the next one, he won't. Untill he makes a statement like yours. And god help him if he is not jew !
Mr I Sell CD-r's As CD's will do anything to stay alive.
Seems he didn't grovel enough to satiate the antifags anyway: http://southsideantifa.blogspot.com/2017/03/mark-solotroff-of-forthieth-day-tries.html
Maybe I'm just in a crankier than usual mood but this kind of thing has been really shitting me lately. Whatever you think of Solotroff (I have no axe to grind, personally) it's fucking shitty that he feels he's been obliged to put out this kind of mea culpa only to have the cunts just knock it back. Hopefully he'll get the message that these cunts are not to be either trusted or respected. Fucking little dipshits.
Was discussing this on another forum yesterday -
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/apr/03/ayaan-hirsi-ali-cancels-australian-tour-citing-security-concerns (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/apr/03/ayaan-hirsi-ali-cancels-australian-tour-citing-security-concerns)
No mention of what the threats actually were, so could be a beat-up. But we were agreeing that Muslim women living in a secular democracy (and I know there's a lot of prejudice against Muslims down here, but it's not the same as being fucking bombed all the time is it?!) have a lot of hide to attack someone who's actually been through the Muslim genital grinder (clit cut off when she was five) and wants to warn others about it. I don't know or care about her actual politics but she's got something to say about actual Islamic terror.
It's amazing that PBK popped up in the comments of the antifa blog still going on about something from 20+ years ago.
Girls through the back door:
https://www.rt.com/news/383515-sweden-school-gender-segregation/
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on April 04, 2017, 11:27:12 PM
It's amazing that PBK popped up in the comments of the antifa blog still going on about something from 20+ years ago.
Girls through the back door:
https://www.rt.com/news/383515-sweden-school-gender-segregation/
been trying this on uk as well.
sketchy guy makes good.
good footage ESP for samples-whoosh!
Quotea concerned customer
A concerned customer. Not hundreds of concerned customers,
a concerned customer.
I want that kind of power.
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on April 10, 2017, 04:16:06 AM
Quotea concerned customer
A concerned customer. Not hundreds of concerned customers, a concerned customer.
I want that kind of power.
Try being a concerned customer.
https://noisey.vice.com/en_us/article/an-interview-with-war-on-women-the-only-band-that-matters-during-this-election
QuoteDid punk get too complacent during the Obama years?
QuoteDo you ever worry that merch like that will come off as opportunistic?
I've definitely had concerns like that. I definitely don't want anyone to take what we're doing the wrong way. But I also think if a band is going to survive, unfortunately, they have to sell merch. So if we have to do that, we are one of the bands that should have these particular slogans. The last thing I want is some male-dominated band to be doing this and making money off it, or some corporation making money off of it in the mall.
http://news.infoshop.org/opinion/things-anarchists-say (http://news.infoshop.org/opinion/things-anarchists-say)
Ha Ha
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/mother-bombs-video-death-porn-article-1.3055397
biggest bomb and 36 are dead. that doesnt sound very efficient. it said somewhere that the bomb cost 170 K in dollars. Im not sure I believe that but that is cheaper than I had thought.
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on April 13, 2017, 01:24:53 AM
http://news.infoshop.org/opinion/things-anarchists-say (http://news.infoshop.org/opinion/things-anarchists-say)
Funny list. Although this piece isn't by her I see that little miss raised in the home counties and went to a posh school with privilege coming out of her ears champagne socialist Guardian writer Laurie Penny writes for this infoshop malarkey. That means it's a periodical for arseholes.
Penny really is one of the worst examples of online feministas. She's never done a day's actual work in her life as far as I can tell. Privileged parents, fucking around at uni, popular blog, a book or two published, and she's set for fucking life - gigs with the Guardian, New Statesman, Vice, The Baffler, fellowship at Harvard uni, the fucking lot. She's had money and attention thrown at her and yet loves making a big deal about getting hassled for her views. Calls herself a "professional feminist", which means everyone doing it without getting paid and who has to actually work for a living is doing it wrong. She's had her privilege pointed out to her many times. A professional wastrel.
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on April 15, 2017, 05:22:15 PM
Penny really is one of the worst examples of online feministas. She's never done a day's actual work in her life as far as I can tell. Privileged parents, fucking around at uni, popular blog, a book or two published, and she's set for fucking life - gigs with the Guardian, New Statesman, Vice, The Baffler, fellowship at Harvard uni, the fucking lot. She's had money and attention thrown at her and yet loves making a big deal about getting hassled for her views. Calls herself a "professional feminist", which means everyone doing it without getting paid and who has to actually work for a living is doing it wrong. She's had her privilege pointed out to her many times. A professional wastrel.
It's funny reading the comments sections under her articles because they are scathing. And that's left, centre and right. Everyone hates her but I have a feeling the left hates her the most as she's one of the top persons for giving them a bad name.
I've probably posted this clip before but it's worth watching again. I thank the gods for preserving the moment where the self made tory poof that is David Starkey tore her to ribbons in front of a live audience. Little Miss full of her own importance and Piss didn't like it and tried the water works but the water workers went on strike in solidarity with all things decent and denied her a way out. She asked for that one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oj9dA6E3fJw
Quote from: GEWALTMONOPOL on April 15, 2017, 10:52:36 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oj9dA6E3fJw
Jesus fucking christ. It takes a special kind of shamelessness to want to live that down. And she even sounds like a fucking teenager when she talks.
The more I watch it the more details I see and the more I realise that not even a master director of cringe situations (Solondz et al) backed by the best actors and screenwriters could replicate how perfect this is. From the anxious body language of the moderator sitting behind her to how Starkey sips from his wine glass whilst psyching himself up for the final blow to the woman in the audience shooting Penny down in flames with a "you started it" followed by Penny realising no one's buying her bullshit but for the sake of all things bullshit she keeps the act going anyway and failing miserably.
As the saying goes, sometimes truth is better than fiction.
Quote from: GEWALTMONOPOL on April 16, 2017, 08:57:55 PM
The more I watch it the more details I see and the more I realise that not even a master director of cringe situations (Solondz et al) backed by the best actors and screenwriters could replicate how perfect this is. From the anxious body language of the moderator sitting behind her to how Starkey sips from his wine glass whilst psyching himself up for the final blow to the woman in the audience shooting Penny down in flames with a "you started it" followed by Penny realising no one's buying her bullshit but for the sake of all things bullshit she keeps the act going anyway and failing miserably.
As the saying goes, sometimes truth is better than fiction.
I felt the same about the black fella looking around incredulously when the "r word" came out of her mouth.
I'm firmly in the camp of disliking Laurie Penny for reasons relating to how poorly she actually represents the causes she makes money from writing about. In my view she is completely indistinguishable from your average Hopkins, Clarkson or Yiannopoulous save for the 'left wing' leanings. Complete and utter self obsessed, opportunistic shill who hijacks real, complicated topics into reduced soundbites toward a personal quest to not have to work at a supermarket. It is so clear that her being a well known writer is more important than the people who actually have to fucking suffer from the injustices she'll be pretending to give a fuck about for that week's deadline.
Nothing I've ever read of hers has had any more depth than a teenagers self obsessed blog yet she is often hailed as an important and controversial voice in media. Read her supposedly damning and incisive analysis on Milo Yiannopoulous and tell me if you can find anything above anecdotal self reference as the basis for her points. Pathetic. The fact she is able to sustain a career and minor celebrity status as professional mouth piece for left wing/feminist viewpoints off the back of these efforts is offensive and annoying for those of us who hate genuine injustice as much as we do weak, careerist, floppy narcissists so yeah, there is a more 'left' view point on it if you want it.
The starkey vid is a laugh for some basic schadenfraude/justice but he is in a similar boat in terms of being a professional opinion haver. The lot of them and so many more deserve a calm yet irreversible, critical arse kicking.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/woman-beaten-called-p-told-10246233
morrocan woman orders Italian food with English twist, gets abused by English women accusing her of racism...
Quote from: Duncan on April 18, 2017, 02:31:55 AM
I'm firmly in the camp of disliking Laurie Penny for reasons relating to how poorly she actually represents the causes she makes money from writing about. In my view she is completely indistinguishable from your average Hopkins, Clarkson or Yiannopoulous save for the 'left wing' leanings. Complete and utter self obsessed, opportunistic shill who hijacks real, complicated topics into reduced soundbites toward a personal quest to not have to work at a supermarket. It is so clear that her being a well known writer is more important than the people who actually have to fucking suffer from the injustices she'll be pretending to give a fuck about for that week's deadline.
Nothing I've ever read of hers has had any more depth than a teenagers self obsessed blog yet she is often hailed as an important and controversial voice in media. Read her supposedly damning and incisive analysis on Milo Yiannopoulous and tell me if you can find anything above anecdotal self reference as the basis for her points. Pathetic. The fact she is able to sustain a career and minor celebrity status as professional mouth piece for left wing/feminist viewpoints off the back of these efforts is offensive and annoying for those of us who hate genuine injustice as much as we do weak, careerist, floppy narcissists so yeah, there is a more 'left' view point on it if you want it.
The starkey vid is a laugh for some basic schadenfraude/justice but he is in a similar boat in terms of being a professional opinion haver. The lot of them and so many more deserve a calm yet irreversible, critical arse kicking.
Seems the worst vitriol against her comes from other lefties which is perfectly understandable as she embodies the cliché hypocritical champagne socialist as if she was the prototype. Although definitely not a lefty myself I sympathise with any serious person of that persuasion who has to witness the likes of her shitting all over the ideology.
Starkey is a horribly arrogant man but he is at least capable within his field as a historian. Her ticket into the media opinion glitterati is having the right school tie. It certainly wasn't her ability.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on April 15, 2017, 08:03:46 PM
Quote from: kettu on April 15, 2017, 01:36:41 PM
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/mother-bombs-video-death-porn-article-1.3055397
biggest bomb and 36 are dead. that doesnt sound very efficient. it said somewhere that the bomb cost 170 K in dollars. Im not sure I believe that but that is cheaper than I had thought.
The use of MOAB was to destroy the tunnels ISIS was using in the mountains. I'm guessing it did that; I was hoping for much higher quality video of the aftermath.
Death toll is up to 94. I'm curious about the damage done to the tunnels & caves...
quoting this as is more important than debating academic 'feminist' points of view on nothing in particular.
the woman, her views and responses to are worth nil.
Australians are turning into some of the most whingy, piss-weak, PC nancy-pants outside of the US.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-04-19/controversy-over-hermann-nitsch-dark-mofo-bloody-art-show/8452202 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-04-19/controversy-over-hermann-nitsch-dark-mofo-bloody-art-show/8452202)
Well, I see this fitting perfectly into the long line of 'art commentary' of the moral majority which shows itself to be out of step and at least 1-2 decades behind the 'moral compass' of Europe when similar matters courted controversy overseas long ago. By this I am referring to the Melbourne hammer attack on Serrano's Piss Christ, and to a lesser extent the more recent manufactured controversy of Bill Henson's 'paedo' photography (including the former PM digging the boot in!).
But apart from the ludicrous public comments about 'art' in the article, the controversy is hardly surprising. I am just hoping that the organisers of Dark MOFO stick to their guns and don't bow to pressure to cancel the show. Personally I don't eat meat by choice, but that decision in no way detracts from my interest in seeing this work and more broadly appreciating Hermann Nitsch's work, artistic approach and the means of creating it.
As a back story, I still vividly remember seeing a video of Nitsch's live actions in the National Gallery of Victoria when I was about 10 years old, and had absolutely no idea of what I was seeing or what the fuck was going on (...I perhaps thought it was a satanic ritual at the time?!). But experiencing that at a young age has absolutely stuck with me over the years and has influenced a great deal of my appreciation of 'difficult' music and art. So yes - I am beyond looking forward to seeing this performance 'in the flesh' (...providing it does not get cancelled...).
Good point. We can be atrocious philistines without a doubt, and the suggestion that he "just paint something like everyone else" or attach brushes to cows legs are just fucking smirkable.
Mind you, I've got a philistine streak. A lot of what passes for "art" these days I'd like to take a hammer to myself. The destruction of art is as important as art itself in a lot of ways.
From what I've seen of this piece/ritual of Nitsch's, it looks interesting and exciting on edited video but I imagine there'd be a lot of boring standing around waiting for your cue involved. Could be wrong, though. If people take part and get a thrill out of it, best of luck to them. Wonder who gets the trophies like the skull and the pelt?
MOFO had better stick to their guns about this. I'm sick of local events capitulating to whingy demands from self-righteous nobodies.
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on April 19, 2017, 05:58:15 AM
Mind you, I've got a philistine streak. A lot of what passes for "art" these days I'd like to take a hammer to myself.
I don't disagree with you their either, and the reductive nature of modern art is particularly galling, where it is all about the 'concept' and 'idea' and not in the actual skill of executing the finished work. So, fuck those 'contemporary artists' where the employ a team of workers to actually create the 'artwork'!!
But even then when skill is involved, sometimes it just makes for completely boring appreciation. Case in point is when at a local galley there was a display of a 'life jacket' and 'inflatable dingy' which had been carved out of solid marble. The skill to create the work was obviously extremely well honed, but the end rest was completely banal.
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on April 19, 2017, 05:58:15 AM
MOFO had better stick to their guns about this. I'm sick of local events capitulating to whingy demands from self-righteous nobodies.
Again I agree, but this also happened last year: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-06-15/artwork-commissioned-for-dark-mofo-censored-by-art-school/7512292
re-killing in France.
seems terror related.
at the end, these religious retards would kill us for this site, so fuck them all.
know where you stand.
euro liberal democracy is decadent but won't execute us.
maybe stop our dole money.
our losses are fewer than those caught up in these
our disagreements minimal.
end of sermon.
Quote from: david lloyd jones on April 20, 2017, 11:15:33 PM
euro liberal democracy is decadent but won't execute us.
Euro liberal democracy is exactly who let them come in, give birth to 4-5 childs per family, gave them nationality and they continue see them invading through the borders while they welcome them ! Cause "muslim doesn't mean terrorist" and similar bullshits. Are you muslim ? Get the fuck out of our countries, i say. No exceptions.
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/lifestyle/style/katie-prices-daughter-princess-9-launches-her-own-showbiz-career-with-a-book-deal/ar-BBAnThD?li=AA2FOLs&ocid=spartandhp
brings to mind echos of jonbenet's career, paedobait and all sorts of other...
When I saw that beach pic, this is what I thought immediately:
(http://i67.tinypic.com/2vtr482.jpg)
Quote from: Scat-O-Logy on April 26, 2017, 06:56:35 PM
When I saw that beach pic, this is what I thought immediately:
(http://i67.tinypic.com/2vtr482.jpg)
exactly
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/editorpicks/what-trump-still-doesnt-understand-about-the-holocaust/ar-BBAnGzL?li=AAmiR2Z&ocid=spartandhp
what trump doesn't understand is that jews hate sharing the holocaust, hate thinking that others at best see a holocaust, not the, and that post war history is full of examples contradicting their narrative of 'shoa'.
Quote from: david lloyd jones on April 26, 2017, 09:15:07 PM
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/editorpicks/what-trump-still-doesnt-understand-about-the-holocaust/ar-BBAnGzL?li=AAmiR2Z&ocid=spartandhp
what trump doesn't understand is that jews hate sharing the holocaust, hate thinking that others at best see a holocaust, not the, and that post war history is full of examples contradicting their narrative of 'shoa'.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZmHufNKRjQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZmHufNKRjQ)
he probably hates anal cunt as well.
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/05/transracialism-article-controversy.html (http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/05/transracialism-article-controversy.html)
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/bill-nye-the-science-guy-netflix-edit-removed-censored-gender-sex-chromosome-transgenderism-a7716881.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/bill-nye-the-science-guy-netflix-edit-removed-censored-gender-sex-chromosome-transgenderism-a7716881.html)
Cracked may seem like a bit of an obvious target but it's been getting worse and worse lately -
http://www.cracked.com/article_23708_5-iconic-parts-pop-culture-that-are-secretly-racist.html (http://www.cracked.com/article_23708_5-iconic-parts-pop-culture-that-are-secretly-racist.html)
Weirdly, this article was posted today or yesterday but it's dated to last month and doesn't seem to be on the list of current articles on the main page like it was this morning.
I like this comment -
Lynchmobs; hooked noses, and whiskey for paddies.
Hirarious accents and Arabic cabbies
Brown-painted white men who da-ance and sing.
Those are a few of my favourite things.
Cream coloured honkies and swastika doodles
Injuns and slave bells; Koreans sell noodles
Mexican housemaids who steal your wife's rings
These are a few of my favourite things.
Weed smoking rastas who eat watermelon
Indian tech guys who're awkward with women
Drunk aborigines judged by their skin
These are a few of my favourite things
On the far right, On the left wing
When I'm feeling sad
I simply remember my favourite things
And then I don't feel so bad.
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/05/15/arts/dance/no-more-gang-rape-scenes-in-ballets-please.html (https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/05/15/arts/dance/no-more-gang-rape-scenes-in-ballets-please.html)
Throwing someone in the air=rape
Like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8jZKAjwvLE
Quote from: GEWALTMONOPOL on May 16, 2017, 06:28:31 PM
Like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8jZKAjwvLE
it sure ain't ballet
Low cunts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g67z_xBe07Q
Quote from: Deadpriest on May 17, 2017, 11:08:57 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g67z_xBe07Q
well funny.
In my workplace, white "cis" men are the absolute minority and women "of colour" the majority. Most of them are "cis", though, so maybe they should all quit for men dressed as wom...sorry, transgendered bodies.
Quote from: KMusselman on May 27, 2017, 11:34:23 PM
Quote from: Deadpriest on May 17, 2017, 11:08:57 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g67z_xBe07Q
according to the logo on her shirt, must have had a bad day working at Burger King.
Hope my white male privilege kicks in soon.
https://www.yorkshirecoastradio.com/news/local-news/2286361/misogyny-recognised-as-a-hate-crime-in-north-yorkshire/
"In the criminal justice system, male gaze-based offenses are considered especially heinous. In North Yorkshire, the dedicated detectives who investigate these vicious felonies are members of an elite squad known as the Misogyny Victims Unit. These are their stories."
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on May 29, 2017, 08:11:34 PM
https://www.yorkshirecoastradio.com/news/local-news/2286361/misogyny-recognised-as-a-hate-crime-in-north-yorkshire/
"In the criminal justice system, male gaze-based offenses are considered especially heinous. In North Yorkshire, the dedicated detectives who investigate these vicious felonies are members of an elite squad known as the Misogyny Victims Unit. These are their stories."
!! *snicker*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5121VjLwqZM
We need a PE project called Misogynist Victimizer Unit
http://affinitymagazine.us/2017/05/21/you-dont-have-to-be-racist-to-be-racist/ (http://affinitymagazine.us/2017/05/21/you-dont-have-to-be-racist-to-be-racist/)
QuoteAmerican Sociologist and Professor of Sociology at Duke University, Eduardo Bonilla-Silva, has discussed his views on systemic racism in America even despite the lack of people doing or saying things that are not overly racist.
QuoteAffinity Magazine started from the idea of a sixteen year old girl, she noticed that there was a complete lack of journalistic publications written exclusively for teens by teens.
My breath is foul (which is butthurt for other people).
https://www.opendemocracy.net/transformation/josefin-hedlund/revolutionary-love (https://www.opendemocracy.net/transformation/josefin-hedlund/revolutionary-love)
QuoteIf you are only attracted to able, 'mentally well', successful (by society's standards), cisgender, normatively beautiful, slim people, from class privileged backgrounds, then you are also upholding violent norms. This means that you cannot just declare that who you are attracted to is a personal preference. You can't just get away with saying 'that's not my type' (unless your non-type is cis-white-hetero-male, they receive enough admiration in society anyway, so lets de-centre that!)
Patrice O neal makes woman he's arguing with laugh at one of the jokes she's complaining about!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjIuPSuYSOY
Patrice was brilliant. He and the regulars on Tough Crowd w/Colin Quinn would have been great right now concerning everything going on.
Man, these Evergreen students are NUTS!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cMYfxOFBBM&feature=youtu.be
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on June 18, 2017, 12:45:02 AM
Man, these Evergreen students are NUTS!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cMYfxOFBBM&feature=youtu.be
Damn, this is so confused and sad. The students pc left (?) world-view is thought provokingly distorted and polarizing from where I am sitting. The latter efx is quite funny as it is traditionally a political tool utilized by the right / conservative. Have they no clue or relation to the history that they are representing or flaunting? However, this would be quite an interesting social experiment (but maybe too much to hope?). It got me thinking about an old Israeli Educational Television film my class was forced to see during our first school years. Though the plot is not the same, there are similarities in the two cases when considering group belonging/mentality, "mono vision", etc. Eh! Student uprising for the wrong reasons according to this small clip... I just hope there is more depth to the action than the media presents...
The wave:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICng-KRxXJ8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICng-KRxXJ8)
On a small end comment... have to say that there is some parallels with the Norwegian public / media reality as well as the overall homogeneous music / art scene.
reading the recent posts re: students, begs the question, are students the new 'fascists'?
and is fascism devoid of it's historical meaning?
Quote from: david lloyd jones on June 18, 2017, 05:35:38 PMand is fascism devoid of it's historical meaning?
Yes. I had a debate with a friend about this in the 1990's because she insisted on calling Pauline Hanson and her party "fascist", and I made the mistake of trying to correct her. That did not end well. When people are just throwing words like "fascist" and "nazi" around because of emotional gusto we may as well chuck in meaning all together. The kids aren't new fascists, they're new Humpty Dumpty's, changing the meaning of words to fit whatever post-adolescent genetic rage their bodies are going through.
The problem is they're being taken seriously instead of being slapped down and told to shut up and stop disrupting classes for the students who want to learn. If the people running these institutions are too gutless to actually run these places properly for fear of being called "racist" they may as well quit and hand the unis over to these ratbags. Let them run these places. Let them create their little safe-space, people-of-colour utopias. See how long they last.
Feel the Wrath of Rickles!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqXoFFoqouM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqXoFFoqouM)
usual question - what do you mean by fascism?
to me Fascism is exactly a specific historical movement, with a specific (yet complex) ideology, different from national socialism (despite evident exchange), with a specific vision of the world and destiny
Donald Trump is not fascist, as Margaret Tatcher, Ronnie reagan, silvio berlusconi, stalin, ted nugent, peter steele, harley flanagan, the conservative party, etc. were not fascists.
Quote from: tiny_tove on June 19, 2017, 05:55:36 PM
Donald Trump is not fascist, as Margaret Tatcher, Ronnie reagan, silvio berlusconi, stalin, ted nugent, peter steele, harley flanagan, the conservative party, etc. were not fascists.
try to exlplain that to some pc-correct students and see what happens... i bet you know it already.
This is Fascism:
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/wjq99z/why-cant-my-famous-gender-nonconforming-friends-get-laid
Sexual fascism:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/an-open-letter-to-gay-white-men-no-youre-not-allowed_us_5947f0ffe4b0f7875b83e459
QuoteIn social psychology there is a theory called The Mere-Exposure Effect. Simply put, the more we are exposed to someone, the more attractive they become to us. See?
Yea, I see alright, you stupid, ignorant cunt.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/jun/27/sydney-opera-house-ditches-dangerous-ideas-for-festival-of-progressive-activism#comment-101064929 (https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/jun/27/sydney-opera-house-ditches-dangerous-ideas-for-festival-of-progressive-activism#comment-101064929)
WORLDSTAR!!!
Large fights on slippery floors should really happen more often.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=452329611801829&set=a.186123828422410.1073741829.100010743818931&type=3&theater (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=452329611801829&set=a.186123828422410.1073741829.100010743818931&type=3&theater)
https://www.buzzfeed.com/davidmack/chicago-dyke-march-jewish-pride?utm_term=.hulzB51m0P#.nobOgo847N (https://www.buzzfeed.com/davidmack/chicago-dyke-march-jewish-pride?utm_term=.hulzB51m0P#.nobOgo847N)
There's never anything on.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2017/07/10/jokes_about_trump_being_gay_draw_on_deep_rooted_stereotypes_about_gay_men.html (http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2017/07/10/jokes_about_trump_being_gay_draw_on_deep_rooted_stereotypes_about_gay_men.html)
I didn't read all of it either.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/the-game-of-thrones-creators-next-show-sounds-stupid-as-hell (http://www.thedailybeast.com/the-game-of-thrones-creators-next-show-sounds-stupid-as-hell)
You don't have to be white to be white.
http://battymamzelle.blogspot.com.au/2014/01/This-Is-What-I-Mean-When-I-Say-White-Feminism.html (http://battymamzelle.blogspot.com.au/2014/01/This-Is-What-I-Mean-When-I-Say-White-Feminism.html)
Now with graphs! -
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-DV2eLPFDemY/UsoUWIInYkI/AAAAAAAACq4/TQU5GyL_M68/s1600/ninjacates_guide_to_white_feminism_FINAL_A-01.png)
https://daily.bandcamp.com/2016/08/15/trnsgndr-vhs-interview/ (https://daily.bandcamp.com/2016/08/15/trnsgndr-vhs-interview/)
QuoteBefore the crowd dispersed, a lively young man named Leo Gray spoke up. "[The music] really brought out the angst in all the white dudes' eyes around the gallery," he said, almost feverishly.
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on July 29, 2017, 07:36:38 AM
You don't have to be white to be white.
http://battymamzelle.blogspot.com.au/2014/01/This-Is-What-I-Mean-When-I-Say-White-Feminism.html (http://battymamzelle.blogspot.com.au/2014/01/This-Is-What-I-Mean-When-I-Say-White-Feminism.html)
Or "How i went lunatic cause accepted the fact that no matter my desperate tries i won't ever find a man to fuck me. I devote my life to pseudo-science !" .
QuoteI am more than aware that this diagram does not accurately reflect every single theoretical possibility, and of its mathematically limitations.
http://pitchfork.com/features/photo-gallery/the-wearorange-campaign-against-gun-violence-at-the-pitchfork-music-festival/ (http://pitchfork.com/features/photo-gallery/the-wearorange-campaign-against-gun-violence-at-the-pitchfork-music-festival/)
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/aug/06/google-staffers-manifesto-against-affirmative-action-sparks-furious-backlash (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/aug/06/google-staffers-manifesto-against-affirmative-action-sparks-furious-backlash)
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on August 03, 2017, 09:50:33 PM
How the hell can a movie trailer "read" a room?:
http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2017/08/03/this-death-wish-trailer-needs-to-read-the-room
This is just, well, the worst of both worlds
https://youtu.be/zUPwG_CIfBM
Auschwitz poetry, for the most part, is pretty shit.
Andrea Dworkin fucking rules!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msuln-uBS00
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on August 03, 2017, 06:27:52 PM
http://pitchfork.com/features/photo-gallery/the-wearorange-campaign-against-gun-violence-at-the-pitchfork-music-festival/ (http://pitchfork.com/features/photo-gallery/the-wearorange-campaign-against-gun-violence-at-the-pitchfork-music-festival/)
Hare Krishna!
krishna krishna!
(http://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/20992613_1639572372719514_2029144199063730691_n.jpg?oh=7f599a340a78f2b1dd8e5004f90c9cc3&oe=5A3328AD)
Norwegian PC HYSTRERIA reaches new heights.
A cobble of parents flips out online over children's book.
(https://vertical.snd.no/images/1cf16705-1de4-4e81-8117-7502afd987e3?fit=crop&q=80&w=380)
Text in norwegian only.
https://www.aftenposten.no/familieogoppvekst/Barnebok-vekker-kraftige-reaksjoner--Det-er-provoserende-10499b.html (https://www.aftenposten.no/familieogoppvekst/Barnebok-vekker-kraftige-reaksjoner--Det-er-provoserende-10499b.html)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxlIjKBetUg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxlIjKBetUg)
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-09-02/melbourne-fringe-puts-vaginas-feminism-front-and-centre/8863204 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-09-02/melbourne-fringe-puts-vaginas-feminism-front-and-centre/8863204)
We're all in a hate group.
https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2017/09/01/heavy-rock-music-neo-nazi/
The rich have worked out that "social justice" not only doesn't threaten their wealth, status and power but can enhance those things if used correctly.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-09-11/nbl-owner-larry-kestelman-wants-league-to-stand-for-something/8886876 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-09-11/nbl-owner-larry-kestelman-wants-league-to-stand-for-something/8886876)
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on September 09, 2017, 03:21:34 AM
We're all in a hate group.
https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2017/09/01/heavy-rock-music-neo-nazi/
Damn, than I was a Nazi and belonged to a hate group, even before I knew what a Nazi is. That explains a lot...
In Switzerland, the youth branch of the Socialist party is currently trying to ban "Mohrenköpfe", a chocolate pastry which roughly translates to "moor heads" because they think it's a racist expression. We surely have no other problems.
I am sure some of you guys know these and have similar funny expressions in your country for them:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chocolate-coated_marshmallow_treats
(http://www.abload.de/img/negerkuessepack3t1i.jpg)
In Norway we have the same. We call it negro buns roughly translated. Chocolate buns rolled in coco drippings. Not very pc by name, but excellent in taste.
On another Norwegian note... Children raping children:
https://www.nrk.no/dokumentar/barnevoldtekter-oker-kraftig-1.13688941 (https://www.nrk.no/dokumentar/barnevoldtekter-oker-kraftig-1.13688941)
Norwegian text only, but use your go-to online translator.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9vKAvuxeHY
Quote from: Deadpriest on September 17, 2017, 12:01:06 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9vKAvuxeHY
despite his 'defence' of carnival, he did grab her tits in passing.
loved the beating he got, though.
dummy.
Quote from: david lloyd jones on September 17, 2017, 05:50:31 PM
Quote from: Deadpriest on September 17, 2017, 12:01:06 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9vKAvuxeHY
despite his 'defence' of carnival, he did grab her tits in passing.
loved the beating he got, though.
dummy.
Is this the same guy?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rW9422L-x1c
I normally hate this whole prankster culture on YT, but that clip above made me laugh.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/sep/18/georgia-tech-police-shoot-lgbtq-student-dead (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/sep/18/georgia-tech-police-shoot-lgbtq-student-dead)
Quotethe computer engineering student used the name Scout and preferred the pronouns "they" and "them" rather than "him" or "her".
QuoteThe GBI said officers tried repeatedly to get Schultz to drop the knife, but they refused to do so.
Quotethey had twice attempted suicide.
Quote"They always worried they were going to fail a test but got all As and only two Bs at Tech."
Fucking
what?!
PC commands to respect the wish of a mad if he is gay or whatever, no matter any grammar rules or logic.
http://reason.com/blog/2017/10/21/this-upenn-teacher-justifies-her-refusal
"Male voices are deeper and carry further in the room."
As if that's anything a person has control over...
Not entirely sure if this belongs here, but
http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-41829484
New allegations have emerged from a number of men accusing Kevin Spacey of sexual misconduct.
US filmmaker Tony Montana claims he was groped by the actor in a Los Angeles bar in 2003.
Montana says he was left with PTSD for six months after he claims Spacey "forcefully" grabbed his crotch.
PTSD from having your crotch grabbed????
https://www.thedailybeast.com/jenna-abrams-russias-clown-troll-princess-duped-the-mainstream-media-and-the-world
"... "dems repubs libertarians indies greens, black white yellow red-all religions" are "#PEDOPHILES.""
Thanks for sharing. What these people classify as being normal or not is totally vacuous and needs to be treated as such.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-11-22/statue-of-saint-and-child-creates-stir/9180724 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-11-22/statue-of-saint-and-child-creates-stir/9180724)
Sharing his bread like a true saint. Very realistic portrayal...
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/dec/01/arm-vagina-hollywood-female-self-flagellation-jennifer-lawrence?CMP=fb_gu (https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/dec/01/arm-vagina-hollywood-female-self-flagellation-jennifer-lawrence?CMP=fb_gu)
I was wondering when they'd get around to remembering Balthus.
https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2017/dec/06/new-york-metropolitan-museum-art-refuses-remove-girl-balthasar-klossowski-voyeurism-complaint (https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2017/dec/06/new-york-metropolitan-museum-art-refuses-remove-girl-balthasar-klossowski-voyeurism-complaint)
If the petitioners liked that one, they'll love this -
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/09/63/b6/0963b62dc28929e8613a7b19ff416be2--famous-art-guitar-lessons.jpg
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on December 06, 2017, 04:04:32 AM
I was wondering when they'd get around to remembering Balthus.
https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2017/dec/06/new-york-metropolitan-museum-art-refuses-remove-girl-balthasar-klossowski-voyeurism-complaint (https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2017/dec/06/new-york-metropolitan-museum-art-refuses-remove-girl-balthasar-klossowski-voyeurism-complaint)
Refuses to remove? Very refreshing! These days one lazy blog post is all it takes to get something "offensive" removed. But this one also kinda surprises me because most of his works are sexually charged and his fixation with young girls is quite obvious. Take into consideration the case of Graham Ovenden, which is by no means similar to this but his child abuse conviction resulted to his art and private collection being ordered to be destroyed by an actual judge and also some online museums removed many of his works. So in that sense, this time I can see where the controversy lies.
Yea, it's not like Balthus was hiding anything. But that's why it's even more important the gallery told the petitioners to stuff it.
I think it's also interesting the petition organiser suggested that it be replaced by a female artist. Because no woman has ever, in the entire history of the human race, ever hurt or sexually abused children.
Had a look at the petition and it's amazing how ignorant she is.
Artist Chuck Close is power electronics.
victim analogy:
"And he will have to sit and think about his disgusting choice of words toward me and my vagina. He is going to live with that. Not me".
https://hyperallergic.com/418322/chuck-closes-sexual-misconduct-response/?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=facebook_page&utm_medium=Hyperallergic&utm_content=%22Last+Time+I+Looked%2C+Discomfort+Was+Not+a+Major+Offense%22%3A+Chuck+Close+Addresses+Sexual+Misconduct+Allegations (https://hyperallergic.com/418322/chuck-closes-sexual-misconduct-response/?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=facebook_page&utm_medium=Hyperallergic&utm_content=%22Last+Time+I+Looked%2C+Discomfort+Was+Not+a+Major+Offense%22%3A+Chuck+Close+Addresses+Sexual+Misconduct+Allegations)
http://chuckclose.com/index.html (http://chuckclose.com/index.html)
Quote from: theotherjohn on December 22, 2017, 12:08:19 PM
...I stand corrected: https://youtu.be/IiRB4W0_c6I
- even better!!! Priceless. Shows her he can stand and think about what he's done as well.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-12-28/vanity-fair-apologises-for-mocking-hillary-clinton/9290560 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-12-28/vanity-fair-apologises-for-mocking-hillary-clinton/9290560)
QuoteMany Liberals claim they are burning Vanity Fair and purchasing online subscriptions, just so they can cancel them.
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/youtuber-logan-paul-apologizes-video-suicide-victim-article-1.3732320
Did anyone see the original video before it was either edited or taken down? I barely paid attention when it was on some news show a day or 2 ago.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on January 04, 2018, 02:38:49 AM
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/youtuber-logan-paul-apologizes-video-suicide-victim-article-1.3732320
Did anyone see the original video before it was either edited or taken down? I barely paid attention when it was on some news show a day or 2 ago.
honestly have to say the butt hurt is legit on this one. this toehead has many videos of his recent trip still up where he violates so many social rules of japan. what more to expect from someone who whores themselves for clicks & views.
I can't disagree - the whole culture of YT celebrity is disturbing to me and that guy seems to me like the "normal"/well-adjusted version of Luka Magnotta. IE, pathologically-intense need for attention etc. There are videos floating around of bodies in the suicide forest elsewhere, as far as I know, likely recorded with more honest intentions.
Quote from: Peterson on January 04, 2018, 08:29:04 PM
I can't disagree - the whole culture of YT celebrity is disturbing to me and that guy seems to me like the "normal"/well-adjusted version of Luka Magnotta. IE, pathologically-intense need for attention etc. There are videos floating around of bodies in the suicide forest elsewhere, as far as I know, likely recorded with more honest intentions.
It's really something else. At present there is an exceedingly shitty version of the American Culture Wars surrounding the Magic the Gathering online community which I deem more influenced by the Youtube-celeb thing than any actual concerns about politics, online harassment or whatever else the people participating fool themselves into believing. Without going into the details, a quasi-trolling bearded nerd running a channel called Unsleeved Media (with about 150.000 subscribers) has been ostracized by the "Magic community" as well as banned from official events after insulting some cosplayer and/or making some kind of Magic-card related "transphobic" joke (I think; I've watched hours of this shit and am still trying to get a handle on it). An endless stream of leaked conversations, bizarre confessions of mental instability from various parties involved and massive amounts of hate and threats have ensued. Watching the whole thing, it is obvious that a fundamental part of the whole circus is the fact that a number of people have become famous solely by posting videos about a card game, and now are both powerful and subject to the aggression of others in a completely disproportionate manner. They have become "celebrities" without the normal shields of income, agents and public acceptance that makes "normal" celebrity somewhat less destructive (even if those things sometimes aren't enough). The whole thing with deeply insecure misfits being worshipped, as well as attacked, as if they were NFL millionaires or politicians is really fucking bizarre - and the mutual combativeness and sensitivity is a sight to behold. From a very subtle Power Electronics/misery tourism perspective the whole thing is oddly entertaining, but on a human level it is obviously depressing.
And I'm sure this is just one of many, many examples.
Reminds me of that bit from "Decline of Western Civilisation" where I think it was Darby Crash's woman at the time bragging about how a worker who was cleaning her dad's house's windows fell and died, and her and her mates were taking photos of themselves lying next to his corpse.
So basically they entered the store and trashed it like bunch of coolest monkeys in the jungle? Cool.
The next level of getting down on your knees and taking it up the ass: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5308777/Logan-Paul-returns-suicide-prevention-video.html
(https://scontent.fsyd4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/fr/cp0/e15/q65/27021707_2001667216516692_3613062924829792576_o.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=b61abf9940d08f5a9c24d5a2b4b651a9&oe=5ADB6838)
Quote from: Scat-O-Logy on January 25, 2018, 08:04:45 PM
The next level of getting down on your knees and taking it up the ass
Have no fear, Scat-O-Logy. Where I'm from, there's no need to get down on your knees.
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on January 28, 2018, 04:28:46 PM
(https://scontent.fsyd4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/fr/cp0/e15/q65/27021707_2001667216516692_3613062924829792576_o.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=b61abf9940d08f5a9c24d5a2b4b651a9&oe=5ADB6838)
white woman pretends to be all of the above.
hey, i'm from central new york and those guys were just trying to make the best of a bad situation.... most of the women here are heavy, i dig it though. hell, fucking a bunch of fat chicks is about the only thing that could get me to step foot on a college campus.
no more father-daughter dances at this NY school as it may offend the tranny 9 yr-olds...
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article198797949.html
#powerful #inspiring #YesAllWomen
https://www.si.com/swim-daily/2018/02/07/in-her-own-words-sports-illustrated-swimsuit (https://www.si.com/swim-daily/2018/02/07/in-her-own-words-sports-illustrated-swimsuit)
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on February 11, 2018, 02:58:26 PM
https://www.si.com/swim-daily/2018/02/07/in-her-own-words-sports-illustrated-swimsuit (https://www.si.com/swim-daily/2018/02/07/in-her-own-words-sports-illustrated-swimsuit)
Very 'creative' (fucking dullards).
https://www.newstatesman.com/culture/2018/02/jk-rowling-created-army-liberals-now-they-are-turning-against-her
Quote"When the news broke that Dumbledore's sexuality would once again be kept out of canon, I was furious," says Ewing, who is a lesbian. "This is a series I have dedicated years of my life too, and one that has continually let me down."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJxU8iiyOS0
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-02-21/anti-retard-campaign-launched-by-wa-government/9470750 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-02-21/anti-retard-campaign-launched-by-wa-government/9470750)
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on February 19, 2018, 11:34:54 PM
"It's actually an ape grunt..."
https://verysmartbrothas.theroot.com/we-need-to-start-barking-at-white-people-who-speak-out-1823131315
The comment section on that one.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-08-24/university-chicago-tells-millennials-look-elsewhere-if-they-need-safe-space
University of Chicago distinguished itself quite a while ago by declaring how the foundation of higher education rests on open debate and the challenging of ideas therefore refusing to follow other unis down the SJW/pomo/Cult Marx route. As such they have become a beacon followed by other US universities because not all of them are in the hands of the SJW's. I've also heard how more and more cult marx unis are beginning to struggle with enrolment while the ones who aren't mired in that shite are becoming increasingly popular. Stands to reason that people don't want to indebt themselves with no possibility of paying it back due to having studied useless disciplines like women's studies et al. And that is good news!
There's a guy called Jonathan Haidt who talks a lot about this. He's a professor at NYU who've built quite a movement after having had enough of the Cult Marx dogma infestations on campuses. Watch him debate the young hottie sitting next to him whose poor brain is so riddled with SJW toxins she makes such an arse of herself it's almost, but only almost, worthy of pity.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTU3hxgr2Kc
https://goodmenproject.com/ethics-values/key-understanding-gun-violence-tiny-mirrors-mlyd/
"It's SCIENCE... When a little girl is forced to watch pornography with her predatory uncle, she cannot help but become engaged and aroused."
https://amp.theguardian.com/society/2018/feb/18/iceland-ban-male-circumcision-first-european-country?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Tweet&__twitter_impression=true
(What kind of freak would want to specialise in circumcising babies?)
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on February 26, 2018, 09:37:29 PM
https://goodmenproject.com/ethics-values/key-understanding-gun-violence-tiny-mirrors-mlyd/
"It's SCIENCE...
This "teacher, mother and grandmother" needs to be informed that SCIENCE has also clearly worked out there is no free will. If she's so impressed by minors being influenced by movies and video games she should take that logic to its conclusion, not to mention keep up with the SCIENCE and not some ideological bullshit left over from religion. Fucking ideologues of every stripe love SCIENCE as long as it confirms their stupid biases.
Butthurt herpetologists:
https://westhunt.wordpress.com/2018/02/15/plague-of-frogs/
Quote"anti-oppressive, queer, vegan doom,"
https://noisey.vice.com/en_au/article/9kzwj5/vile-creatures-confrontational-queer-doom-is-exactly-what-metal-needs-in-2018 (https://noisey.vice.com/en_au/article/9kzwj5/vile-creatures-confrontational-queer-doom-is-exactly-what-metal-needs-in-2018)
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on March 06, 2018, 04:03:10 AM
Quote"anti-oppressive, queer, vegan doom,"
https://noisey.vice.com/en_au/article/9kzwj5/vile-creatures-confrontational-queer-doom-is-exactly-what-metal-needs-in-2018 (https://noisey.vice.com/en_au/article/9kzwj5/vile-creatures-confrontational-queer-doom-is-exactly-what-metal-needs-in-2018)
(https://pics.me.me/how-about-no-14234605.png)
https://youtu.be/Xqwqjz4oX34
Please and thank you.
Nihilist memes are sexist.
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1599256456855974&id=583969258384704
Quote from: KMusselman on March 16, 2018, 12:17:48 AM
"My technique that will help wash away the ordinariness of your day (or for rare few, cap off a day of significance). Put me in your mouth. Make an *Mmm* sound. Swallow. Express appreciation & ask permission to do it again. Hint: Only wussies do the 'ask permission' part."
https://vinepair.com/articles/hop-take-brewers-not-misogynists/
https://youtu.be/spIrhYfwi5c
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-17/black-panther-too-politically-correct-for-china/9546206 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-17/black-panther-too-politically-correct-for-china/9546206)
Quote from: Force Neurotic on March 17, 2018, 04:45:57 PM
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on March 17, 2018, 03:29:36 PM
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-17/black-panther-too-politically-correct-for-china/9546206 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-17/black-panther-too-politically-correct-for-china/9546206)
To be fair, my friend did report after his China trip that lots of Chinese folks were pretty hostile to black folks. Can't imagine that one doing too well over there.
https://youtu.be/GjHHXbXc4z8
Count Dankula convicted of spreading grossly offensive content with his Nazi Pug video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_MxAXaKzOU
Quote from: Galactic Plagve on March 20, 2018, 06:56:08 PM
Count Dankula convicted of spreading grossly offensive content with his Nazi Pug video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_MxAXaKzOU
Unless the idea is to completely abolish public discourse, it is probably not a very good idea to force political opponents to be more careful and thought-out while allowing your ideological mates to behave any which way. I believe this will become increasingly self-evident in the coming years in most Western countries run by folks who think that think speech laws are the greatest thing since sliced bread. They're really not, even to serve the purpose for which they were intended.
The judge that found the Nazi pug so 'grossly offensive' did not have the same type of comments for a man with thousands of KP images on his computer that was before him last year.
Seems to me, the dog should be punished, too. He could have easily just left the room & refused to be indoctrinated but then again, pugs have a lot of issues (breathing, eyes)so, I guess, he is marginalized & oppressed by his slaver.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on March 21, 2018, 11:00:36 PM
The judge that found the Nazi pug so 'grossly offensive' did not have the same type of comments for a man with thousands of KP images on his computer that was before him last year.
Seems to me, the dog should be punished, too. He could have easily just left the room & refused to be indoctrinated but then again, pugs have a lot of issues (breathing, eyes)so, I guess, he is marginalized & oppressed by his slaver.
Nazi Pug Master!
I wish I was fifteen years younger and thus able to recognize that "Nazi Pug Master/Slave Relationship" would be the greatest power electronics title ever. The album would have been done after a two day drunken stupor, mark my words.
Nazi Pugs Fuck Off!
In other news, champagne socialist Nesrine Malik in anti free speech diatribe shocker:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/mar/22/hate-speech-violence-liberals-rightwing-extremists
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-24/adelaide-pub-hotel-longtime-backlash-over-name/9582278 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-24/adelaide-pub-hotel-longtime-backlash-over-name/9582278)
QuoteIt's important because a phrase like this is a gateway stereotype that leads to graver long-term consequences, including harassment, abuse, discrimination and an assumption of sexual subservience.
"...a gateway stereotype...".
https://noisey.vice.com/en_us/article/mb5m5v/with-killtheking-heavy-metal-is-having-its-metoo-moment (https://noisey.vice.com/en_us/article/mb5m5v/with-killtheking-heavy-metal-is-having-its-metoo-moment)
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on March 25, 2018, 02:08:07 AM
https://noisey.vice.com/en_us/article/mb5m5v/with-killtheking-heavy-metal-is-having-its-metoo-moment (https://noisey.vice.com/en_us/article/mb5m5v/with-killtheking-heavy-metal-is-having-its-metoo-moment)
Would love to have a discussion with someone who is actually able to take Kim Kelly seriously
Quote from: Vala on March 25, 2018, 04:06:57 AM
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on March 25, 2018, 02:08:07 AM
https://noisey.vice.com/en_us/article/mb5m5v/with-killtheking-heavy-metal-is-having-its-metoo-moment (https://noisey.vice.com/en_us/article/mb5m5v/with-killtheking-heavy-metal-is-having-its-metoo-moment)
Would love to have a discussion with someone who is actually able to take Kim Kelly seriously
Like this?
(https://www.consalud.es/uploads/s1/21/51/5/bullying_consalud.jpg)
Quote from: Vala on March 25, 2018, 04:06:57 AM
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on March 25, 2018, 02:08:07 AM
https://noisey.vice.com/en_us/article/mb5m5v/with-killtheking-heavy-metal-is-having-its-metoo-moment (https://noisey.vice.com/en_us/article/mb5m5v/with-killtheking-heavy-metal-is-having-its-metoo-moment)
Would love to have a discussion with someone who is actually able to take Kim Kelly seriously
That article was beyond funny. Got link elsewhere some days ago. When you think campaigns launched by
Dear Darkness, a feminist metal Instagram community and such things... You know that it is so far far away, in unknown realms, I have absolutely nothing to do with that world. If they want to keep
their community safe, by all means go ahead. I mean, it's not like metal brutes would be storming cause havoc and tears to
Hevisaurus gigs either.
Even beer, apparently -
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2018/mar/27/heineken-racist-advert-chance-the-rapper-tweet (https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2018/mar/27/heineken-racist-advert-chance-the-rapper-tweet)
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on March 27, 2018, 09:55:40 PM
Everything is too white.
http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-43541179
So fucking great. Keep eating your own, dummies.
Skinheads use to wear boots, now they're wearing running shoes:
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/59wjq8/learn-to-spot-the-secret-signals-of-far-right-fashion
The Alt-right has no culture & it's a mess but we'll write half a dozen articles promoting, I mean, exposing it:
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/evm7wm/the-alt-right-is-a-subculture-without-a-culture
https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/richard-spencer-depeche-mode-official-band-of-the-alt-right-response-donald-trump-a7596886.html (https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/richard-spencer-depeche-mode-official-band-of-the-alt-right-response-donald-trump-a7596886.html)
Richard Spencer says Depeche Mode(depressed mode) is the official band of the Alt-right
the Extreme Right
says
DeathKey
obviously
Two whites don't make a Wong
Not that there's anything wrong with a Wong
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on April 07, 2018, 09:14:44 PM
Skinheads use to wear boots, now they're wearing running shoes:
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/59wjq8/learn-to-spot-the-secret-signals-of-far-right-fashion
QuoteHow would a kid who wants to flirt with the far right find out what to wear if there are so many options?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLj30tUoRqY&t=2s
Quote from: theotherjohn on April 08, 2018, 01:46:12 PM"Disclaimer: At number 17 you'll find a cover with a picture of Hitler. While we understand this might seem inappropriate, this is the original artwork from the band and we have decided to show it as it appears in the Database. Just to make it completely clear, this band didn't support in any way this ideology."
Lets see how long it takes until Dis-Cocks starts to censor artwork and eventually delete releases. It's inevitable and bound to happen at some point.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-04-19/army-bans-troops-from-wearing-skulls-death-symbols/9673242 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-04-19/army-bans-troops-from-wearing-skulls-death-symbols/9673242)
QuoteAs soldiers our purpose is to serve the state, employing violence with humility always and compassion wherever possible.
https://jezebel.com/as-the-art-world-reckons-with-metoo-many-ask-what-abo-1825390940
I can't make heads or tails of this.
I suspect that's them trying to be The Onion.
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on April 21, 2018, 04:45:21 AM
I suspect that's them trying to be The Onion.
The Onion should start doing in-depth, balanced reporting on topics relevant to people. It's a niche virtually unfilled, and while it wouldn't be hilarious, it sure would be nice.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/music/celebrity/shania-twain-apologizes-for-saying-she-would-have-voted-for-donald-trump/ar-AAwc73O?OCID=ansmsnnews11 (https://www.msn.com/en-us/music/celebrity/shania-twain-apologizes-for-saying-she-would-have-voted-for-donald-trump/ar-AAwc73O?OCID=ansmsnnews11)
Apparently you have to publicly apologize for (even thinking of) voting for Trump now.
proper order, too
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5656411/German-music-award-scrapped-amid-row-rap-songs-anti-Semitic-lyrics.html
http://www.dw.com/en/2000-berliners-wear-kippas-to-protest-anti-semitism/a-43537545
http://www.dw.com/en/german-muslim-leader-says-anti-semitism-is-a-sin/a-43506121
http://www.dw.com/en/the-kippa-a-sign-of-respect-for-god/a-43454937
There was a country called Germany ...
Probably not the place, but clearly someone is offended because Koufar's "Lebanon for Lebanese has been banned for sale on discogs
However they only banned LP, not CD so go figure...
Quote from: Kayandah on May 15, 2018, 10:35:59 AM
However they only banned LP, not CD so go figure...
Bigger cover, bigger offence.
Quote from: Kayandah on May 15, 2018, 10:35:59 AM
Probably not the place, but clearly someone is offended because Koufar's "Lebanon for Lebanese has been banned for sale on discogs
It amazes me that someone would both know about a release like this and feel that reporting it would be a good idea. I've been on about this before, but having the urge to get EXTREMELY obscure and rare artistic projects "banned" from various places seems indicative of an unfathomable degree of shit-beingness.
having become increasingly fascinated by the incel community I found this article pretty interesting
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/18/style/jordan-peterson-12-rules-for-life.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/18/style/jordan-peterson-12-rules-for-life.html)
Quote from: ConcreteMascara on May 22, 2018, 08:04:02 AM
having become increasingly fascinated by the incel community I found this article pretty interesting
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/18/style/jordan-peterson-12-rules-for-life.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/18/style/jordan-peterson-12-rules-for-life.html)
Kind of related to this, his point about too many single young men without a partner causing violence, this is the exact problem China is going to have, or is already having. The one child policy and a strong preference for male vs female means too many men and not enough women. So the solution will probably be sham marriages with poor Asians from Laos, Cambodia, Vietnam etc just to keep the single young chinese happy. Que huge sex trafficking problems in the future
As for incels, they want pretty women rather than the overweight muffin top down the road. It's like people blaming immigrants for taking their jobs when actually the immigrants are doing the job they wouldn't do. All Jordan Peterson is doing is making a shitload of money off the whole thing, though i am sure he believes what he is saying.
Quote from: Kayandah on May 22, 2018, 02:25:58 PM
Quote from: ConcreteMascara on May 22, 2018, 08:04:02 AM
having become increasingly fascinated by the incel community I found this article pretty interesting
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/18/style/jordan-peterson-12-rules-for-life.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/18/style/jordan-peterson-12-rules-for-life.html)
Kind of related to this, his point about too many single young men without a partner causing violence, this is the exact problem China is going to have, or is already having. The one child policy and a strong preference for male vs female means too many men and not enough women. So the solution will probably be sham marriages with poor Asians from Laos, Cambodia, Vietnam etc just to keep the single young chinese happy. Que huge sex trafficking problems in the future
As for incels, they want pretty women rather than the overweight muffin top down the road. It's like people blaming immigrants for taking their jobs when actually the immigrants are doing the job they wouldn't do. All Jordan Peterson is doing is making a shitload of money off the whole thing, though i am sure he believes what he is saying.
Re China and angry, single young men. With my limited knowledge on the subject I'd agree on your point. I think somewhat related is the extreme shut-ins of Korea and Japan which are perhaps another avenue of "disorder" that single you men can go down. Though in Korea and Japan while there are certainly more women to men than in China, it seems like there are still a host of cultural quirks that allow for involuntary celibacy and general isolation from society at large.
Re Jordan Peterson, I guess what I find the most amazing, though why I'm amazed I don't know, is that so many people have such a strong desire to have someone tell them how things should be, how they should organize their life, and what they should believe in. Just because somebody agrees with your inner-monologue doesn't mean you need to deify them. Just because your opinion is unpopular it doesn't make you a martyr. this whole idea of queuing like fucking pigs in a slaughterhouse to have someone shake your hand and tell you you're right is so fucking disgusting.
Dystopia said it best, human=garbage
Quote from: ConcreteMascara on May 22, 2018, 04:13:51 PM
Re China and angry, single young men. With my limited knowledge on the subject I'd agree on your point. I think somewhat related is the extreme shut-ins of Korea and Japan which are perhaps another avenue of "disorder" that single you men can go down. Though in Korea and Japan while there are certainly more women to men than in China, it seems like there are still a host of cultural quirks that allow for involuntary celibacy and general isolation from society at large.
Japan and Korea are a completely different world, there was a great article about how japan is becoming sexless, ie the young people are no longer wanting to have sex. Of course its a retreat from the world and a defense position against rejection but how fucked up as a society do you have to be where young people are rejecting sex?
It's why i find AV so damn interesting, they have whole sub genres devoted to housewives doing porn because it is the only way they have sex because their husbands are working such long hours then going out drinking with the boss.
anyway, i am going off on a tangent, sorry.
Quote from: ConcreteMascara on May 22, 2018, 04:13:51 PM
Re Jordan Peterson, I guess what I find the most amazing, though why I'm amazed I don't know, is that so many people have such a strong desire to have someone tell them how things should be, how they should organize their life, and what they should believe in. Just because somebody agrees with your inner-monologue doesn't mean you need to deify them. Just because your opinion is unpopular it doesn't make you a martyr. this whole idea of queuing like fucking pigs in a slaughterhouse to have someone shake your hand and tell you you're right is so fucking disgusting.
Its the echo chamber effect isn't it? search out the voice that tells you you are right and then the world makes sense. Now they are throwing money at the guy because he has become their guru. It's a fucking sham.
However, i did like his comment about the emails over whether 'flipchart' was racist to filipinos. I hope its true...
Quote from: Kayandah on May 22, 2018, 04:47:19 PM
Quote from: ConcreteMascara on May 22, 2018, 04:13:51 PM
Re Jordan Peterson, I guess what I find the most amazing, though why I'm amazed I don't know, is that so many people have such a strong desire to have someone tell them how things should be, how they should organize their life, and what they should believe in. Just because somebody agrees with your inner-monologue doesn't mean you need to deify them. Just because your opinion is unpopular it doesn't make you a martyr. this whole idea of queuing like fucking pigs in a slaughterhouse to have someone shake your hand and tell you you're right is so fucking disgusting.
Its the echo chamber effect isn't it? search out the voice that tells you you are right and then the world makes sense. Now they are throwing money at the guy because he has become their guru. It's a fucking sham.
However, i did like his comment about the emails over whether 'flipchart' was racist to filipinos. I hope its true...
Yeah that one had me laughing out loud while I read it. Reminded me of when a girl I was with flipped out because I referred to a racoon as a coon and she thought I was being wildly racist when I was just talking about trash pandas.
Peterson has spoken out on a few taboo subjects and in doing so he's managed to upset the left. Obviously they don't tolerate any dissent so they've tried to smear and discredit him for at least a year now. It's the usual stuff. Racist, misogynist, transphobe etc. Plus traditional tactics like disrupting lectures, attempts at getting him fired, no platforming and none of it has worked. On the contrary, he just keeps growing.
There's a large section of people in the western hemisphere, mainly men, who are not perceptive to the left dogma anymore and where just waiting for the right man to come by. While Peterson's criticism of the left isn't anything new he somehow manages to communicate it to a larger audience than anyone before him.
The fact that he's making a killing from the sale of his book and his Patreon means the left can't touch him anymore and that is a good thing. I'm a fan of Peterson.
Quote from: GEWALTMONOPOL on May 22, 2018, 05:57:17 PM
making a killing
Quote from: Kayandah on May 22, 2018, 04:47:19 PM
search out the voice that tells you you are right and then the world makes sense. Now they are throwing money at the guy because he has become their guru.
Enough said.
https://windsor.ctvnews.ca/human-rights-application-launched-against-windsor-body-waxing-business-by-transgender-woman-1.3925911
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on May 23, 2018, 01:56:11 AM
https://windsor.ctvnews.ca/human-rights-application-launched-against-windsor-body-waxing-business-by-transgender-woman-1.3925911
"I'm sad. Give me $50,000 to make me feel better."
Frivolous lawsuits have ruined the country and judges awarding them should be hanged.
Quote from: GEWALTMONOPOL on May 22, 2018, 05:57:17 PM
Peterson has spoken out on a few taboo subjects and in doing so he's managed to upset the left. Obviously they don't tolerate any dissent so they've tried to smear and discredit him for at least a year now. It's the usual stuff. Racist, misogynist, transphobe etc. Plus traditional tactics like disrupting lectures, attempts at getting him fired, no platforming and none of it has worked. On the contrary, he just keeps growing.
There's a large section of people in the western hemisphere, mainly men, who are not perceptive to the left dogma anymore and where just waiting for the right man to come by. While Peterson's criticism of the left isn't anything new he somehow manages to communicate it to a larger audience than anyone before him.
The fact that he's making a killing from the sale of his book and his Patreon means the left can't touch him anymore and that is a good thing. I'm a fan of Peterson.
Nobody will give a shit about this guy a couple years give or take. I'll put money on it. Now I can't speak for any other country much less the whole of the Western Hemisphere, but I will say that as American living in a somewhat rural part of the south, I was completely unaware of him prior to reading the NYT article. As you mentioned this is nothing new; this is all same narcissistic far right rhetoric that's appeared to gain momentum in the last couple years. I hesitate to fully believe that this guy is substantially more popular than any of the inordinate celebrities of the alt right, but even so, their agenda doesn't hold a candle to collective interest or sympathies of the majority of the US population, and that's regardless of political association. Many conservative people I know may indeed agree with this man on several points, but I would bet that most of them don't have time or interest in reading his book, watching his YouTube channel, attending his lectures, etc. This is because this type of garbage philosophy doesn't provide any real value. The majority of conservative men don't live their day to day lives enraged at the fact that they can't get pussy or suffocated by the lefts alleged censorship and bullying campaign. This guy found a particular demographic of sad sexually frustrated white men who require a vindication from a pathological loser equal to them; Part of me believes that if this has gained any significant popularity it's because he's undoubtably more identifiable with his audience; it's easy to see Peterson is nerdy, white, single, weird, unattractive, educated, etc. He's also a psychologist and a good one it seems, so not only can he speak directly to these people's fears but his background (a social science) requires comprehension of social/behavioral norms & belief systems, shift of power, deviance, mysticism, etc. dating back to the dawn of western civilization. This provides him with an array of allegories he can casually pick and choose from to propagate his insipid ideas. It's no secret that alt right nerds love history lessons of events/civilizations/war that inadvertently heroize a specific group. However this is all regardless of the fact that Trump/far right movement is incredibly unpopular in America in general. We should not forget that basically nobody voted in 2016 US presidential election. Trump had significantly less votes than the prior two conservative presidential candidates who lost to Obama. The Democrats basically have the potential to completely demolish the right for good, however the cabinet are almost entirely made up of Clinton era career politician interventionists types who love to resort to playing the victim. In the next round or possibly thereafter another shithead Democrat (with a better reputation) will be in office and the bulk of the far right will dwindle from the discourse if it hadn't already by then. Just wait until Oprah confirms she's running, the alt right and it's paragons don't stand a fucking chance.
I think a massive problem with his popularity is that much of the deeper underlying context of his beliefs (i.e. dense clinical psychology) gets totally passed over by people on the left AND the right (or wherever else) who want him to be something more than he is. The above poster is absolutely right in saying typical conservatives are unlikely to bother reading his books properly and so likely get most of their ideas about him from edited youtube clips which makes it a lot easier to feel as though he is dog whistling or waving a flag for right wing politics. The exact same thing is true of the 'left wing' contingent who are convinced he is racist, transphobic, sexist etc from the same reduced, surface engagement with anything he may have written or spoken about in depth. Peterson says and does plenty of things that I think are stupid and badly argued, but he still comes from a field that would offer a lot to the current state of political and social discourse if people were prepared to interrogate their thinking a bit more than simply picking a side. It seems people are very quick to forget the PUBLIC part of public figure. When people are increasingly convinced of what they believe before engaging with the topics at hand then it doesn't matter who this year's big topic is or what they have to say. And that's the way of it regardless of where you find yourself within the spent and meaningless spectrum of 'left or right', 'liberal or conservative' we still find ourselves banging our heads against.
All this is, of course, why the above poster is exactly right in saying nobody will give a fuck about him in a few years and why, despite whatever he might be trying to achieve, he has now got himself caught in a game where he can say whatever he wants but people will only hear the parts of it that they want to. A game he probably should have known better than to have engaged with in the first place given that his whole bag and the context for most of what he says and thinks is an understanding of the psychology that gets us all playing.
Peterson also never backtracks or apologises. He goes on the attack by challenging claims and offering debate. The left don't know how to handle people who don't bend to their denouncements hence the hatred and smear keeps heating up but never amounts to any serious dismantling of his opinions. Only ineffectual hit piece after hit piece. Just look at Cathy Newman and what a laughing stock she's become.
Peterson is awesome!
jordan peterson is a fucking anus
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on May 26, 2018, 11:35:39 PM
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/7xm8na/these-women-are-taking-body-positivity-back-from-brands
LOL ! I was needing some comedy, thanks. Following a "nice wealthy white lady from the Southwest" for your pleasure :
(https://video-images.vice.com/_uncategorized/1527186100004-Screen-Shot-2018-05-23-at-55039-PM.png?resize=400:*)
The part about "a world that cannot accomodate their physical size" had me pretty giddy.
Quote from: aububs on May 26, 2018, 10:41:05 PMjordan peterson is a fucking anus
If he is then the left is allowing itself to have rings run round it by an anus. None of its attempts at shutting him down have worked. Not one.
it's admittedly very hard to shut down an anus when it just keeps relentlessly spewing out shite
I know what you mean.
I recently listened to an hour-long interview with Jordan Peterson. One of the things that struck me, up front, in his first 30 words, was his aversion to the idea of having to define a particular audience for one's message. That was interesting to me because it seems he conflates that notion with "the left" when I tend to associate that with plain old fashioned marketing, whether one is a politician trying to hawk a platform of so-called issues or a marketer trying to place a product. It struck me that an academic might have a somewhat insulated view of the way the world works... business works... has worked for the last fifty plus years (if not much much much longer).
Is "identity politics" just shorthand for "I'm sick of getting marketed to, you fucking asshole." If so, well, good luck. I'd say such shit has been going on at least since the Good News was first broadcast.
Quote from: Bloated Slutbag on June 01, 2018, 07:17:15 PMIs "identity politics" just shorthand for "I'm sick of getting marketed to, you fucking asshole." If so, well, good luck. I'd say such shit has been going on at least since the Good News was first broadcast.
Identity politics fits in pretty well with the whole consumerist mentality, as far as I can see. New identities, new markets, new opportunities, new commodities. It's the only way of thinking for a lot of younger people, no matter how they define themselves politically. When you're whole upbringing is about defining yourself on social media by what crap you buy and own, even if that crap is opinions (ideas and opinions are the current economy), there's really not a lot of other options. The Industrial scene is just another market, after all.
EDIT - as for Peterson, it appears pissing off "the left" isn't his only talent.
http://alt-right.com/2018/05/12/jordan-peterson-hand-selected-jewish-tv-producer-lead-dissent/ (http://alt-right.com/2018/05/12/jordan-peterson-hand-selected-jewish-tv-producer-lead-dissent/)
https://www.wsj.com/articles/would-you-like-some-strife-with-your-meal-1527807733
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on June 02, 2018, 03:07:40 AM
Quote from: Bloated Slutbag on June 01, 2018, 07:17:15 PMIs "identity politics" just shorthand for "I'm sick of getting marketed to, you fucking asshole." If so, well, good luck. I'd say such shit has been going on at least since the Good News was first broadcast.
Identity politics fits in pretty well with the whole consumerist mentality, as far as I can see. New identities, new markets, new opportunities, new commodities. It's the only way of thinking for a lot of younger people, no matter how they define themselves politically.
The interviewer actually tries to corner him on this point and his response is, well, "I'm a capitalist" (which is fair enough, and goes with his assertion, earlier on, that he is a "Classical Liberal", all caps included.) I was equally unimpressed by his equivocation with regard to apparent bogeymen like... Derrida.
I laughed. (no joke)
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/06/05/us/miss-america-swimsuit-trnd/index.html (https://edition.cnn.com/2018/06/05/us/miss-america-swimsuit-trnd/index.html)
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-09/craft-beer-makers-vale-bru-apologise-for-sexist-labels/9852970 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-09/craft-beer-makers-vale-bru-apologise-for-sexist-labels/9852970)
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on June 09, 2018, 05:03:57 AM
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-09/craft-beer-makers-vale-bru-apologise-for-sexist-labels/9852970 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-09/craft-beer-makers-vale-bru-apologise-for-sexist-labels/9852970)
Need to post this again because classics never die: https://youtu.be/spIrhYfwi5c
Leave no cross unturned.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-11/petition-against-dark-mofo-upside-down-crosses/9857252 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-11/petition-against-dark-mofo-upside-down-crosses/9857252)
https://metro.co.uk/2018/06/11/crybaby-tommy-robinson-supporter-wails-arrested-nazi-salutes-7621521/ \(;__;)
Quote from: Cementimental on June 11, 2018, 05:23:24 PM
https://metro.co.uk/2018/06/11/crybaby-tommy-robinson-supporter-wails-arrested-nazi-salutes-7621521/ \(;__;)
Cocaine is one hell of a drug.
Leave Tommy Robinstein in prison for all I fucking care.
One more racist is finally uncovered ! https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-44472277
QuoteIn them, he makes sweeping and negative generalisations, for example calling the Chinese "industrious, filthy, obtuse people".
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on June 02, 2018, 03:07:40 AMIdentity politics fits in pretty well with the whole consumerist mentality, as far as I can see. New identities, new markets, new opportunities, new commodities. It's the only way of thinking for a lot of younger people, no matter how they define themselves politically. When you're whole upbringing is about defining yourself on social media by what crap you buy and own, even if that crap is opinions (ideas and opinions are the current economy), there's really not a lot of other options.
This stuff is amazing [to me]. If someone is looking for how different things are from now and pre-internent, they needn't look any further. I attempt to say this with no judgment, either. As you said, not only do they know no differently, but since everything central to their lives is based on marketing and algorithm manipulations, it's literally difficult for them to even comprehend any ideas outside of these things. When asked about what a "sell out" is, the concept made zero sense to them. "Can you explain that again? We don't understand." Or asked if it is OK if every youtube video they watch is sponsored by a company or geared towards selling something? They see absolutely nothing
wrong with it. It isn't even just about capitalism, career/being successful, hustling, etc. It's much deeper and ingrained than any of that can explain. When you're being sold to, marketed, and manipulated every second of the day, it's a very different animal. Fucking phones. I personally find it difficult to relate because my entire being isn't inside that bubble. Brain scan studies are necessary for me to begin to wrap my head around it all.
Quote from: Zeno Marx on June 18, 2018, 11:06:22 PM
Fucking phones. I personally find it difficult to relate because my entire being isn't inside that bubble. Brain scan studies are necessary for me to begin to wrap my head around it all.
That's the major small thing i am proud of. I don't have mobile phone. Since 2007. Started as neccessity cause i wanted to go away from pretty much everyone of my circle of friends, then as a choice. Not for health reasons, just is annoying you can be found anytime by anyone. It's a trouble, from any point of view. Calls will interrupt something you do. If you have it closed then they will ask you why. Doing illegal business ? You will be ruined by it. Only if your job demands it or you have kids is really neccessary.
QuoteThat's the major small thing i am proud of. I don't have mobile phone.
I've never owned one, neither has my boss and a few old close friends.
Main excuse is usually the example, "Well, back in the 80s and 90s there were DIY punk/hardcore shows put on and SOMEHOW people know about them, how to get to them, and the crowds were usually huge."
It's not just phones, though. There's a whole system in place which has no genuine alternative, apart from, arguably, Islamism and even jihadists use mobile phones, Facebook and memes. And it's not just the technology, it's the consumerist mentality driving it all.
The last hold-out of hope I had was that when more home-recording technology became widely available there would be no need for a music industry and it would become weakened. I was extremely wrong. The music industry is bolstered by legions of hopefuls who could do it all themselves, even the business and promotional end, but instead use all that to get the beloved contract. It's an insanity I can't understand either. As much as they shit me I can't help but also pity the current younger generations who have no idea of anything beyond the system they're in to the point that even "anti-capitalists" are just conceiving of "inclusive" and "intersectional" capitalism.
Now the last hold-out of hope I have is that global warming really does kill all Life on Earth. I bet I'll be disappointed with that, too.
https://noisey.vice.com/en_us/article/vbqkmx/theres-no-room-in-metal-for-racists-abusers-and-bigots
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on June 24, 2018, 10:08:31 PM
https://noisey.vice.com/en_us/article/vbqkmx/theres-no-room-in-metal-for-racists-abusers-and-bigots
This must be a popular topic in art journalism. I don't have a problem with the conversation, but I do find it unsavory that it could be nothing more than a trend.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/this-music-critic-says-its-time-to-update-our-art-consumption-ethical-standards
QuoteThere are a lot of metal bands in the world; asking yourself, "are these riffs really worth it?" is a small step, but a crucial one.
I agree. Indeed, the only question worth asking.
Quote from: Zeno Marx on June 24, 2018, 11:58:16 PM
This must be a popular topic in art journalism. I don't have a problem with the conversation, but I do find it unsavory that it could be nothing more than a trend.
People with some kind of influence over a field of human endeavor trying to exclude others from that field, increasing their own status in the process? Reference to ethics, narrowly and hypocritically defined common sense and self-righteous sermonizing being used as tools in this effort? I don't think that type of behaviour will go the way of the Woolly Mammoth any time soon.
[quote author=Zeno Marx link=topic=4525.msg73611#msg73611 https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/this-music-critic-says-its-time-to-update-our-art-consumption-ethical-standards
"For decades, if not centuries, art critics have always repeated an odd dictum: always seperate the art from the artist".
Leaving aside the obvious fact that art criticism has only existed for the last century, if that, this is bullshit. And leaving aside the fact that this very issue has been discussed ad nauseam for years, the reasons for and context of art has changed so much over human pre/history that all we can talk about now is how it, as a stupid commodity, is perceived by stupid consumers like ourselves and these delightful art critics, the latter who have a vested interest in blowing chunks of bullshit like this.
Quote from: Zeno Marx on June 24, 2018, 11:58:16 PM
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on June 24, 2018, 10:08:31 PM
https://noisey.vice.com/en_us/article/vbqkmx/theres-no-room-in-metal-for-racists-abusers-and-bigots
This must be a popular topic in art journalism. I don't have a problem with the conversation, but I do find it unsavory that it could be nothing more than a trend.
I wonder if some good scans of Orcustus 'zines circulate online? Emperor's Faust edited that good old zine from beginning of 90's. Perhaps issue #2, page 14, "words of wisdom" should be scanned and tweeted to Kelly. Or why not metal-sucks.net, who could turn it to hilarious text of metal celebrity using "n-word" and advocating genocide.
I wonder if there is actually any Black Metal band in the world, who'd want to be
supported by sites such as Noisey? Her quest to not cover dubious BM bands is something I could fully appreciate.
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on June 25, 2018, 05:24:30 PM
[quote author=Zeno Marx link=topic=4525.msg73611#msg73611 https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/this-music-critic-says-its-time-to-update-our-art-consumption-ethical-standards
"For decades, if not centuries, art critics have always repeated an odd dictum: always seperate the art from the artist".
Leaving aside the obvious fact that art criticism has only existed for the last century[/quote]Is it really only that recent?
I would guess so, comparatively. Did the ancient Egyptians have art critics? Prehistoric cave wall painters? Chinese calligraphy masters? I don't doubt that there'd be a lot of fussing over what artisans produced during the medieval period for churches and cathedrals but I don't think it'd be in the same category as "do we really want William of Canterbury carving gargoyles for our church? His attitude towards women is problematic".
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on June 26, 2018, 03:35:23 AM
I would guess so, comparatively. Did the ancient Egyptians have art critics? Prehistoric cave wall painters? Chinese calligraphy masters? I don't doubt that there'd be a lot of fussing over what artisans produced during the medieval period for churches and cathedrals but I don't think it'd be in the same category as "do we really want William of Canterbury carving gargoyles for our church? His attitude towards women is problematic".
more like the last 3 centuries
art criticism as we know it today began around half way thru the 18th century with the royal academy shows in london. this is around when art really came into the public domain and there are records of newspaper reviews of art exhibitions and such from that time. and yes specifically there would have been criticism and comment around the representation of women in art and the taboos that go along with that. they probably got hung up on details that we wouldn't even consider nowadays.
most of the attitudes of the modern world would have germinated in the 18th century
Thanks, aububs. That makes sense. I'm very much surprised it is that youthful, but I was having a difficult time believing art criticism wasn't present specifically during The Enlightenment. I know almost nothing about art history. I'm one of those dullards for whom PBS makes all those art documentaries.
my wife is an 18th century art historian and curator so i'm cribbing from her...
Quotehttps://noisey.vice.com/en_us/article/vbqkmx/theres-no-room-in-metal-for-racists-abusers-and-bigots
I guess it comes down what kind of band you want to be a fan of? A band that is sincerely dangerous and sketchy in multiple ways in their private life for the complete package, or safer people referred to as 'hardcore' because they wear black clothes, socially drink, do drugs, come up with 'dark' riffs, and create various 'depressing' and 'nihilistic' album covers. I'm sure there were yacht rock artists in the 70s that led way gnarlier lifestyles than some contemporary black/death/grind band that plays the drums 'really fast'.
Quote from: aububs on June 26, 2018, 09:25:28 PMart criticism as we know it today began around half way thru the 18th century with the royal academy shows in london.
Fair enough. That would make it very much a product of modernism, I suppose. The whole liberal humanist notion that everything can be analysed and categorised in some kind of ultimately rational way. And since rationality is so malleable it's susceptible to current trends. In a couple of generations' time it'll be other quibbles.
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on June 25, 2018, 06:17:48 PM
Quote from: Zeno Marx on June 24, 2018, 11:58:16 PM
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on June 24, 2018, 10:08:31 PM
https://noisey.vice.com/en_us/article/vbqkmx/theres-no-room-in-metal-for-racists-abusers-and-bigots
This must be a popular topic in art journalism. I don't have a problem with the conversation, but I do find it unsavory that it could be nothing more than a trend.
I wonder if some good scans of Orcustus 'zines circulate online? Emperor's Faust edited that good old zine from beginning of 90's. Perhaps issue #2, page 14, "words of wisdom" should be scanned and tweeted to Kelly. Or why not metal-sucks.net, who could turn it to hilarious text of metal celebrity using "n-word" and advocating genocide.
I wonder if there is actually any Black Metal band in the world, who'd want to be supported by sites such as Noisey? Her quest to not cover dubious BM bands is something I could fully appreciate.
I still have the originals somewhere. If I find them I can try to scan these, but cannot promise.
Quote from: tiny_tove on June 27, 2018, 05:46:14 PM
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on June 25, 2018, 06:17:48 PM
Quote from: Zeno Marx on June 24, 2018, 11:58:16 PM
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on June 24, 2018, 10:08:31 PM
https://noisey.vice.com/en_us/article/vbqkmx/theres-no-room-in-metal-for-racists-abusers-and-bigots
This must be a popular topic in art journalism. I don't have a problem with the conversation, but I do find it unsavory that it could be nothing more than a trend.
I wonder if some good scans of Orcustus 'zines circulate online? Emperor's Faust edited that good old zine from beginning of 90's. Perhaps issue #2, page 14, "words of wisdom" should be scanned and tweeted to Kelly. Or why not metal-sucks.net, who could turn it to hilarious text of metal celebrity using "n-word" and advocating genocide.
I wonder if there is actually any Black Metal band in the world, who'd want to be supported by sites such as Noisey? Her quest to not cover dubious BM bands is something I could fully appreciate.
I have then here as well... just considering whether its good idea or not, haha..
I still have the originals somewhere. If I find them I can try to scan these, but cannot promise.
Black metal = Unsafe
Power electronics = non-consensual
face reality
QuoteThis article examines the symbolic whiteness associated with pumpkins in the contemporary United States. Starbucks' pumpkin spice latte, a widely circulated essay in McSweeney's on "Decorative Gourd Season," pumpkins in aspirational lifestyle magazines, and the reality television show Punkin Chunkin provide entry points into whiteness–pumpkin connections. Such analysis illuminates how class, gender, place, and especially race are employed in popular media and marketing of food and flavor; it suggests complicated interplay among food, leisure, labor, nostalgia, and race. Pumpkins in popular culture also reveal contemporary racial and class coding of rural versus urban places. Accumulation of critical, relational, and contextual analyses, including things seemingly as innocuous as pumpkins, points the way to a food studies of humanities and geography. When considered vis-à-vis violence and activism that incorporated pumpkins, these analyses point toward the perils of equating pumpkins and whiteness.
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/2373566X.2015.1099421?src=recsys (https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/2373566X.2015.1099421?src=recsys)
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on July 03, 2018, 02:14:38 PM
QuoteThis article examines the symbolic whiteness associated with pumpkins in the contemporary United States. Starbucks' pumpkin spice latte, a widely circulated essay in McSweeney's on "Decorative Gourd Season," pumpkins in aspirational lifestyle magazines, and the reality television show Punkin Chunkin provide entry points into whiteness–pumpkin connections. Such analysis illuminates how class, gender, place, and especially race are employed in popular media and marketing of food and flavor; it suggests complicated interplay among food, leisure, labor, nostalgia, and race. Pumpkins in popular culture also reveal contemporary racial and class coding of rural versus urban places. Accumulation of critical, relational, and contextual analyses, including things seemingly as innocuous as pumpkins, points the way to a food studies of humanities and geography. When considered vis-à-vis violence and activism that incorporated pumpkins, these analyses point toward the perils of equating pumpkins and whiteness.
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/2373566X.2015.1099421?src=recsys (https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/2373566X.2015.1099421?src=recsys)
If that much can be written about pumpkins, think about what could be written about watermelon or fried chicken.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on July 03, 2018, 07:14:40 PM
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on July 03, 2018, 02:14:38 PM
QuoteThis article examines the symbolic whiteness associated with pumpkins in the contemporary United States. Starbucks' pumpkin spice latte, a widely circulated essay in McSweeney's on "Decorative Gourd Season," pumpkins in aspirational lifestyle magazines, and the reality television show Punkin Chunkin provide entry points into whiteness–pumpkin connections. Such analysis illuminates how class, gender, place, and especially race are employed in popular media and marketing of food and flavor; it suggests complicated interplay among food, leisure, labor, nostalgia, and race. Pumpkins in popular culture also reveal contemporary racial and class coding of rural versus urban places. Accumulation of critical, relational, and contextual analyses, including things seemingly as innocuous as pumpkins, points the way to a food studies of humanities and geography. When considered vis-à-vis violence and activism that incorporated pumpkins, these analyses point toward the perils of equating pumpkins and whiteness.
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/2373566X.2015.1099421?src=recsys (https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/2373566X.2015.1099421?src=recsys)
If that much can be written about pumpkins, think about what could be written about watermelon or fried chicken.
D'oh!!
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jul/08/london-pride-organisers-say-sorry-after-anti-trans-group-leads-march (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jul/08/london-pride-organisers-say-sorry-after-anti-trans-group-leads-march)
Quote from: THE RITA HN on June 27, 2018, 01:42:59 AM
Quotehttps://noisey.vice.com/en_us/article/vbqkmx/theres-no-room-in-metal-for-racists-abusers-and-bigots
I guess it comes down what kind of band you want to be a fan of? A band that is sincerely dangerous and sketchy in multiple ways in their private life for the complete package, or safer people referred to as 'hardcore' because they wear black clothes, socially drink, do drugs, come up with 'dark' riffs, and create various 'depressing' and 'nihilistic' album covers. I'm sure there were yacht rock artists in the 70s that led way gnarlier lifestyles than some contemporary black/death/grind band that plays the drums 'really fast'.
Ding ding ding!
https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2018/jul/23/trevor-noah-responds-to-boycott-calls-over-racist-joke-about-aboriginal-women (https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2018/jul/23/trevor-noah-responds-to-boycott-calls-over-racist-joke-about-aboriginal-women)
QuoteIm Beautiful BECAUSE Im Aboriginal. Im Strong BECAUSE Im Aboriginal.
Im Loved BECAUSE Im Aboriginal.
Im Smart BECAUSE Im Aboriginal.
I am surrounded by Beautiful Aboriginal women who arent punchlines, theyre Warrior Goddesses
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/incels-cloudfare-online-content-protection_us_5b491632e4b022fdcc597327
I scanned incels.me; I did not see anything interesting & I couldn't find Incelocalypse. Reddit users write that it's been taken down a month or so ago.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on July 26, 2018, 08:20:03 PM
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/incels-cloudfare-online-content-protection_us_5b491632e4b022fdcc597327
I scanned incels.me & did not see anything interesting & I couldn't find Incelocalypse. Reddit users write that it's been taken down a month or so ago.
Article interesting.
(https://i.imgur.com/HhBpG5h.png)
Gulags were 'compassionate', 'educational' institutions, say trans rights campaigners...
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/09/11/soviet-labour-camps-compassionate-educational-institutions-say/ (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/09/11/soviet-labour-camps-compassionate-educational-institutions-say/)
https://www.theprp.com/2018/09/21/news/anti-fascist-black-metal-band-neckbeard-deathcamp-part-ways-with-guitarist-over-past-social-media-posts/
twitter thread is pretty over the top retarded from both the accused and accuser
https://twitter.com/MannyOWar/status/1042914292029419520
Quote from: sunandsteel on September 23, 2018, 08:23:20 AM
https://www.theprp.com/2018/09/21/news/anti-fascist-black-metal-band-neckbeard-deathcamp-part-ways-with-guitarist-over-past-social-media-posts/
twitter thread is pretty over the top retarded from both the accused and accuser
https://twitter.com/MannyOWar/status/1042914292029419520
Anti what-what what metal?
Quote from: sunandsteel on September 23, 2018, 08:23:20 AM
https://www.theprp.com/2018/09/21/news/anti-fascist-black-metal-band-neckbeard-deathcamp-part-ways-with-guitarist-over-past-social-media-posts/
Im dying right now and wished there was a laughing and crying emoticon for this.
Maybe opportunity to popularize his Whitephosphorous noise project?
"What causes aggressive parts of me to force or manipulate unwilling parts of me to do things? What causes me to deny myself rest and connection? Where and how can I allow freer flow of both active and receptive energies to promote balance?"
https://www.vox.com/identities/2018/10/10/17952388/magic-ritual-spells-self-care-feminism-brett-kavanaugh
"I call on Deer Woman to aid in these times," Foisy says, "I call on my ancestors to rise up and expose the truth."
Quite angry to see PC faggotry - in "noise" / experimental music - win on this but i have to thank the faggots that kicked me out FB for just politely saying an opinion of mine. And fuck me, it wasn't even "extreme" ! No need for much details / names, the usual story, once they felt i am on "the other side" they started talking shit and one asked my real name to "take the responsibility" of my expressed opinion "you son of a bitch" blah blah, when answered him if he continues like this it's him who will be the hunted at the end cause i already know who he is, he started crying on his wall for help cause i am threatening his life, and he was behaving like terrified [!] , really, i actually felt i had to tell him to calm down and that i wont visit him. - The digital army of sensitives was gathered, starting threatening and reporting me. Result is FB asked me for ID picture. I wont send them anything ofcource so, i actually sent them the photo of a local psycho killer ... Like it's difficult to open a new one !
It was sometime now i wanted to leave it but since i was slightly using it and wasn't hurting me anyway, it was hard to decide it. If you read this, thanks for giving me the chance to try without it. I ll see how it will go ...
BTW I am still waiting you, you didn't find me yet ? Fucking cheap mouths. Who the fuck threats online unknowns using his real name and store known, in any case, meaning it or not ? Big mouths-only talking, idiots, both !
Anyone here going?
https://www.eventbrite.com/e/ritual-to-hex-brett-kavanaugh-tickets-51031211728
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on October 16, 2018, 02:21:46 AM
Anyone here going?
https://www.eventbrite.com/e/ritual-to-hex-brett-kavanaugh-tickets-51031211728
I willing to bet there are going to be a lot of unshaved arm pits at this event
https://kotaku.com/how-the-npc-meme-tries-to-dehumanize-sjws-1829552261
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/16/us/politics/npc-twitter-ban.html
https://www.wgrz.com/article/news/nation-world/kleenex-to-rebrand-mansize-tissues-after-complaints/605587266
QuoteOut there in the world, there are literal NPCs—the term for non-playable characters in video games—who have no internality whatsoever. There are some giveaways, of course. They spit out canned lines—"Good weather today, huh?"—and flock to normie trends (are Ugg boots still a thing?) and, for the most part, share the same uncritical worldview.
QuoteWhat makes this marginal, stale meme built on edgelord logic worth half a thought is what the idea of an NPC speaks to. NPCs have no agency; NPCs don't think for themselves; NPCs don't perceive, process, or understand; NPCs arrive at the same worldview not because it's authentic to their experiences, but automatically. As a descriptor, it suggests that those to whom it applies aren't even human, but are rather, functionally, robots, or clusters of computer code.
This looks a bit like a re-telling of the old "philosophical zombie" notion.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophical_zombie (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophical_zombie)
(And it seems "NPC" is a major insult, but "edgelord" is okay.)
https://www.10news.com/news/peta-cow-s-milk-a-symbol-of-white-supremacy
Make black metal safe
https://amp.northjersey.com/amp/1723085002#click=https://t.co/t2fYkRUkFP
https://noisey.vice.com/amp/en_us/article/598xdb/fuck-nazi-metal-sympathy?__twitter_impression=true
Quote...those fighting for a better scene.
Quote from: sunandsteel on October 26, 2018, 01:43:58 AM
https://noisey.vice.com/amp/en_us/article/598xdb/fuck-nazi-metal-sympathy?__twitter_impression=true
QuoteBy now, "free speech" has become a right-wing dog-whistle for "I want to be an asshole without suffering any consequences for my actions,"
I wish for a dictatorship that will fuck them using their own -god make them- arguments against them !
Good thing is that the more they speak the more people gets radicalized against them and their views and policies, making the cleansing comes closer and closer.
Quote"Music is expression, and we are allowed free speech in this country," Watson said. "However, I feel hate has no place in music or public forum in general. It will be a while before I feel comfortable ever going in there again."
AKA I support freedom of speech as long as it doesn't go against anything I believe.
So stupid. Music and public forum are PERFECT platforms for hate.
From the Vice article:
" ...Stop being pathetic little babies, accept that most people don't want anything to do with you or your mediocre riffs, and go jerk off together somewhere poorly heated, you fascist shitbags.
Metalheads who aren't complete racist dumpster sludge aren't "offended" by how cool and edgy and "dangerous" these bands are; they're sick of their temper tantrums and aren't interested in watching them vomit out a somehow even shittier version of Richard Spencer's lamest fever dream."
If that piece was spoken manifest, I can somewhat imagine how the voice of narrator would be, hah...
Hypocrisy of the author is quite outstanding. Looking at her "metal recommendations", and mediocre tends to be huge understatement. Even if subject matter of recommended bands would be exact opposite, a lot of those bands wouldn't get praised even among NSBM crowd where standard is pretty low. This is good example when approaching art with "politics first" -angle, how shitty it can get. Even the bands she criticizes, aren't political in a way word is generally understood.
It would be good to see metal journalist who grew up reading Answer Me and Apocalypse Culture, rather than... I don't know.. Cosmopolitan?
That article, see passages quoted above, is pure hysteria. Would be good if she has a meltdown.
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on October 28, 2018, 03:25:01 PM
Looking at her "metal recommendations", and mediocre tends to be huge understatement. Even if subject matter of recommended bands would be exact opposite, a lot of those bands wouldn't get praised even among NSBM crowd where standard is pretty low. This is good example when approaching art with "politics first" -angle, how shitty it can get. Even the bands she criticizes, aren't political in a way word is generally understood.
Very, very true. There are PLENTY of absolutely awful NSBM bands that, thankfully, don't get any respect. Any actual music where the theme take precedent over the sound is usually garbage. I, for one, welcome any truly hateful left-leaning band that can present itself intelligently and with good musicality.
Quote from: PTM Jim on October 29, 2018, 06:37:53 AM
I, for one, welcome any truly hateful left-leaning band that can present itself intelligently and with good musicality.
In Metal, I haven't heard of any such band. Punkwise, Conflict comes to mind immediately. If Black Metal could produce a band like Conflict I'd listen but I doubt very much that would happen. BM's politics, like it or not, usually lean to the right, just as punk usually leans to the left.
BM is at it's best when it is nihilist and anti-humanist in general. Just pure hate and resignation. Not fitting into any political agenda, despite every effort from all sorts of people to fit BM into their agendas, "fighting for a better scene".
some blackened crust/d-beat is pretty good though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcZB_PfldZ0
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on October 29, 2018, 08:13:44 AM
In Metal, I haven't heard of any such band.
Neither have I, but I welcome it. Dystopia maybe might fit, but they are more misanthropic. I have little hope for BM on that angle though.
Punk also used to be against the norm and mean something. Now they are all just preaching to the choir and are mundane at best.
Quote from: PTM Jim on October 29, 2018, 09:57:46 PM
Punk also used to be against the norm and mean something. Now they are all just preaching to the choir and are mundane at best.
Well-said. Pretty hard to live up to Discharge, in all fairness. They had the whole lyrics = left slogan thing down to a T and nobody really did it better.
Quote from: Force Neurotic on October 29, 2018, 10:59:19 PM
Quote from: PTM Jim on October 29, 2018, 09:57:46 PM
Punk also used to be against the norm and mean something. Now they are all just preaching to the choir and are mundane at best.
Well-said. Pretty hard to live up to Discharge, in all fairness. They had the whole lyrics = left slogan thing down to a T and nobody really did it better.
There has been several studies about this matter. Recently was listening lecture of couple leftwing academics who did a study based on "does right wing have best parties now". Party - not as political party, but party as having fun.
Several decades ago, right was associated with conservative, lame choir boys, all the strict rules and oppressive moralism. While anything associated with left, offered freedom, good time, great music, sex, drugs and rock'n'roll type of revolution so to say.
While the old moralist and conservative right still exists, there has been drastic move, where formerly good parties of left are now ruined by moralists and dogmatic rules gone so specific, and any violation is approached with such a mob uproar, quite normal man is utterly alienated.
While the two academics had critical analysis of why left fails, they didn't have guts to identify the cause or classify it as problem. They were circulating around the subject constantly, wary of what they could say. Always starting sentences in a style like "we don't mean that there is something wrong with ehmm.. to stand for rights of.. ehmm... It is important, hmm, but we just observe the side effect what it causes..". You know, it doesn't matter if you are educated, civilized, good mannered leftist academic, but you know damn well you better not piss off for example twitter feminists and wide variety of contemporary sexual-abominations. That's about that if you're thinking about career in public politics or scientific study or whatever.
The academic argued the modern right, is the rebellion what current youth as well as big part of society in general seems to need. Reckless middle finger lifted hight, revolt against wide variety of dogmatic rules. Demands of swift response to social problems they deal in their daily lives, while left presents same situation as if it was page cut out of Watchtower magazine. Instead of approving even relevant criticism, they'd act with ways of perhaps authoritarian, but most of all with utmost
moralism. Something that was abomination for old left. Contemporary left embraces moralism. That's the biggest change.
I may question is it really "right wing" we're talking about here? Or rather more of semi-nihilists & angry liberals? Of course spectrum of types of people is so huge with conflicting ideas, that it seems quite dull to talk about "left" and "right".
Several anarchists have concluded that what should be division is not left/right, but authoritarian and non-authoritarian.
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on October 29, 2018, 08:13:44 AM
In Metal, I haven't heard of any such band. Punkwise, Conflict comes to mind immediately. If Black Metal could produce a band like Conflict I'd listen but I doubt very much that would happen. BM's politics, like it or not, usually lean to the right, just as punk usually leans to the left.
BM is at it's best when it is nihilist and anti-humanist in general. Just pure hate and resignation. Not fitting into any political agenda, despite every effort from all sorts of people to fit BM into their agendas, "fighting for a better scene".
To me, division of metal and punk is not so much of left and right, but rather horizontal and vertical. The other is about expansion on one flat level, trying to avoid hierarchies, preferably ripping down anyone going up, where less abled can't follow. Equality über alles, so to say. Other aims higher. Elitist, noble and even arrogant. Acceptance and even glorification of hierarchies - most definitely.
Some years back I visited one Helsinki punk record store, asking for few foreign bands. Guy told me they don't have those. They stock single copy once in a while and basically nobody is interested. This is what most guys associated with punk have told. People go to visit what locally happens (although not necessary watch the bands), and buy random mediocre release of band they know. It's not like they'd be interested in hunting the best and most inspiring hc-punk band out there. While Black Metal crowd, they will gladly skip gig of mediocre band, they will hunt for inspiring release of band who proves itself good. It may be about worshipping the known icons, or it may be esoteric - small and unknown to masses yet personally crucial.
Of course this is broad generalization. Nevertheless, one could observe such traits within "experimental scene" as well. If two easy examples would be for example group in type of "lets jam some racket, anyone can join, lets give some cdr's to friends" vs "I'd want to create monolithic album that survives decades, stands tall in front of this swamp of useless waste of time". You may not find blatant left/right, but you could will find certain state of mind and worldview which tends to manifest itself in the way things are done.
That said, cross-over exists. Often one can see strength of both approaches are don't feel necessity to go just one way. In generalization most should see good observations, and if someone would hate the generalization, his leaning is pretty much clear, hah...
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on October 30, 2018, 09:49:31 AM
To me, division of metal and punk is not so much of left and right, but rather horizontal and vertical. The other is about expansion on one flat level, trying to avoid hierarchies, preferably ripping down anyone going up, where less abled can't follow. Equality über alles, so to say. Other aims higher. Elitist, noble and even arrogant. Acceptance and even glorification of hierarchies - most definitely.
Very true. Lots of arrogant elitism in punk and lots of "sound the same or die!" egalitarianism in Black Metal.
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on October 30, 2018, 02:11:06 PM
lots of "sound the same or die!" egalitarianism.
Isn't that rather fascist notion than egalitarian? :P
https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/30/sport/shaun-white-apologizes-halloween-costume-special-olympics-spt-intl/index.html?utm_term=link&utm_source=twCNN&utm_content=2018-10-30T20%3A40%3A09&utm_medium=social
This chap blacked up as Samuel Jackson & got on the tube...
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/7603636/video-tube-passenger-blackface-halloween-costume/ (https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/7603636/video-tube-passenger-blackface-halloween-costume/)
no more vegan jokes
https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/31/uk/william-sitwell-waitrose-vegans-intl/index.html?utm_term=image&utm_source=twCNN&utm_content=2018-10-31T19%3A15%3A03&utm_medium=social
Quote from: DSOL on October 31, 2018, 09:16:34 PM
no more vegan jokes
https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/31/uk/william-sitwell-waitrose-vegans-intl/index.html?utm_term=image&utm_source=twCNN&utm_content=2018-10-31T19%3A15%3A03&utm_medium=social
This doesn't hit me as butthurt so much as it is news of a huge supermarket chain sacking someone who said something alienation to a gigantic portion of their customer base. Capitalism, not PC moral policing.
Quote from: Duncan on October 31, 2018, 09:46:47 PM
Quote from: DSOL on October 31, 2018, 09:16:34 PM
no more vegan jokes
https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/31/uk/william-sitwell-waitrose-vegans-intl/index.html?utm_term=image&utm_source=twCNN&utm_content=2018-10-31T19%3A15%3A03&utm_medium=social
This doesn't hit me as butthurt so much as it is news of a huge supermarket chain sacking someone who said something alienation to a gigantic portion of their customer base. Capitalism, not PC moral policing.
Yes and another good reason to join a union.
Quote from: eraciator on October 31, 2018, 10:06:12 PM
Quote from: Duncan on October 31, 2018, 09:46:47 PM
Quote from: DSOL on October 31, 2018, 09:16:34 PM
no more vegan jokes
https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/31/uk/william-sitwell-waitrose-vegans-intl/index.html?utm_term=image&utm_source=twCNN&utm_content=2018-10-31T19%3A15%3A03&utm_medium=social
This doesn't hit me as butthurt so much as it is news of a huge supermarket chain sacking someone who said something alienation to a gigantic portion of their customer base. Capitalism, not PC moral policing.
Yes and another good reason to join a union.
I'm not so sure I follow the union comment? My point here is that while it's easy for some to see anything attached to veganism as part of a culture of whining moral crusading (yawwwnnn btw) this is a case of a posh cunt journalist working for a posh cunt supermarket making a posh cunt comment that seriously clashes with what a major and growing source of his employer's income. I doubt the atmosphere that led him to quit had anything to do with Waitrose saying 'oh fuck, loads of vegans are complaining' and more 'dude, what the fuck...we've just spent millions on this new vegan campaign'. Lots of press has predictably spun the thing to be either about the lamentable increase of moral censorship in PC Britain or why it's an important lesson on not speaking nastily about a group of people but I've yet to read anything that comes at it from the profit/loss angle that so obviously dictates everything.
Well I agree. It is an issue of profits and reputation. Waitrose have identified veganism as a key area for growth.
I think it's unlikely that any of us here will become posh journalists soon though. So in the event that we get caught making a joke at the expense of our employer's target audience we won't be able to whine in the national press about freedom of speech. Or make much money selling our stories.
If we are pressurised into "resigning" we need other ways of defending ourselves.
Sure enough, but it wasn't the case that this was some shelf stacker who made a glib comment on their facebook profile. This was the head of one of their major publication/PR endeavors making those comments in a professional setting while representing his employer in that capacity. ANYONE would get the boot for something like that for no reason other than not towing company line though most of us wouldn't get to 'resign' - we'd be fucked off the payroll without a reference to fall back on. The fact this was a vegan related drama makes it an easy bit of weekly grist for the 'free speech' screeching children who simply wear a different brand of blinkers to the snowflakes they spend their time moaning about but in no way does this come close to some Orwellian nightmare of business strictures. If there is a union which protects its members from writing shitty emails back to potential clients then sign me up!
QuoteThere are lots of tourists to Cairns from overseas and what do they think, that we're all a bunch of rednecks?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-11-02/its-so-vile-wicked-campers-exploit-obvious-legal-loophole/10458054 (https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-11-02/its-so-vile-wicked-campers-exploit-obvious-legal-loophole/10458054)
https://www.facebook.com/MetalheadsSupportingFeminism/?__tn__=kCH-R&eid=ARBGiqr8aWCk3GJ3T0qeT9ZCQdoNSL2dvvKn1HjS0tbYb6uqVsv-d0wkeG06MscrJn_IVUW7fJv1toJr&hc_ref=ARTqvZibnVYhWZu5r3J_5r2jLnVJeRG_-iuHkW0P8zc1HR8niQdpXVG6GiDPCSSx-sY&fref=nf (https://www.facebook.com/MetalheadsSupportingFeminism/?__tn__=kCH-R&eid=ARBGiqr8aWCk3GJ3T0qeT9ZCQdoNSL2dvvKn1HjS0tbYb6uqVsv-d0wkeG06MscrJn_IVUW7fJv1toJr&hc_ref=ARTqvZibnVYhWZu5r3J_5r2jLnVJeRG_-iuHkW0P8zc1HR8niQdpXVG6GiDPCSSx-sY&fref=nf)
EDIT - Bonus site - because witchcraft is so effective against patriarchy -
https://pussychurchofmodernwitchcraft.com/ (https://pussychurchofmodernwitchcraft.com/)
Quote from: Duncan on November 01, 2018, 07:55:56 PM
I'm not so sure I follow the union comment? My point here is that while it's easy for some to see anything attached to veganism as part of a culture of whining moral crusading (yawwwnnn btw) this is a case of a posh cunt journalist working for a posh cunt supermarket making a posh cunt comment that seriously clashes with what a major and growing source of his employer's income. I doubt the atmosphere that led him to quit had anything to do with Waitrose saying 'oh fuck, loads of vegans are complaining' and more 'dude, what the fuck...we've just spent millions on this new vegan campaign'. Lots of press has predictably spun the thing to be either about the lamentable increase of moral censorship in PC Britain or why it's an important lesson on not speaking nastily about a group of people but I've yet to read anything that comes at it from the profit/loss angle that so obviously dictates everything.
Completely agree. Bad timing on his part! Pretty sure he will walk into another job elsewhere though, reference or not
Well being in a union isn't a get out of jail free card... but I have defended people who have done some pretty wild things. It doesn't always work but can often have more of an impact than people expect.
As comrade Crow says: "If you fight, you won't always win. If you don't fight, you'll always lose".
https://twitter.com/RealKyleMorris/status/1058033905079672838/video/1
I like the way she kicks the sign when leaving.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on November 04, 2018, 04:24:50 AM
https://twitter.com/RealKyleMorris/status/1058033905079672838/video/1
I like the way she kicks the sign when leaving.
Hysterical bitch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzvduxWzuZg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzvduxWzuZg)
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on October 30, 2018, 09:49:31 AM
Something that was abomination for old left. Contemporary left embraces moralism. That's the biggest change.
i remember reading once that during the Iranian revolution the left-wing students and communists were willing to join up with islamists and religious people because the left wing students were even
more morally strict than the islamists!
https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/meet-the-woman-bringing-social-justice-to-astrology-629153/
Ingeniously capitalist combination of bullshit and more bullshit
https://www.discogs.com/Various-Anti-Mikko-Aspa-Co-Split/release/12617934
Probably missed the thread about this, still find it funny.
Quote from: CosmicWeaponOfThule on December 01, 2018, 11:49:37 PM
https://www.discogs.com/Various-Anti-Mikko-Aspa-Co-Split/release/12617934
Probably missed the thread about this, still find it funny.
Surely most of the language and imagery on that release based on song titles alone is spectacularly un-pc?
Despite the stellar band name Sperm of Freddie Mercury (+1), yeah, dunno about anything PC there, but butthurt? In spades. You have to wonder what someone's daily life and mental health is like when they devote that much time to sniping at folks they've never met (-1). The phrase "envious consternation" comes to mind. So I guess it sort of evens out at zero.
getting butthurt to make music to get butthurt to
Great literature causes men to hate and kill women.
https://electricliterature.com/the-literary-roots-of-the-incel-movement-4ba183b9c9c5 (https://electricliterature.com/the-literary-roots-of-the-incel-movement-4ba183b9c9c5)
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/former-snl-writer-nimesh-patel-kicked-off-stage-columbia-university-inappropriate-standup-set-181726667.html
The joke wasn't "problematic", I would say it even fits the college sjw narrative of certain identities having a harder time. Can't imagine these students sitting through a standup set 10 years ago (let alone stuff from the 70s and 80s).
Quote from: sunandsteel on December 06, 2018, 07:39:33 AM
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/former-snl-writer-nimesh-patel-kicked-off-stage-columbia-university-inappropriate-standup-set-181726667.html
The joke wasn't "problematic", I would say it even fits the college sjw narrative of certain identities having a harder time. Can't imagine these students sitting through a standup set 10 years ago (let alone stuff from the 70s and 80s).
Lenny Bruce would have given them a heart attack
"Sperm of Freddie Mercury"
I wish Freddie Mercury was actually in this band...
THAT would be amazing and would really put these guys over the top!!
Here's an article about Freddie Mercury's sperm...
http://www.unz.com/article/liberals-vs-mother-nature-freddie-mercury-aids-and-minority-worship/ (http://www.unz.com/article/liberals-vs-mother-nature-freddie-mercury-aids-and-minority-worship/)
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on December 04, 2018, 07:40:38 AM
Great literature causes men to hate and kill women.
https://electricliterature.com/the-literary-roots-of-the-incel-movement-4ba183b9c9c5 (https://electricliterature.com/the-literary-roots-of-the-incel-movement-4ba183b9c9c5)
Oh well more deaths less humans sucking up my air supply
Air Supply is very relaxing btw. Musical ASMR.
Quote from: eraciator on November 02, 2018, 08:52:51 PM
Well being in a union isn't a get out of jail free card... but I have defended people who have done some pretty wild things. It doesn't always work but can often have more of an impact than people expect.
As comrade Crow says: "If you fight, you won't always win. If you don't fight, you'll always lose".
Self managed workplaces without bosses that report their earnings to the state once every couple of months would be fine. Fuck bosses.
Quote from: PTM Jim on October 29, 2018, 06:37:53 AM
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on October 28, 2018, 03:25:01 PM
Looking at her "metal recommendations", and mediocre tends to be huge understatement. Even if subject matter of recommended bands would be exact opposite, a lot of those bands wouldn't get praised even among NSBM crowd where standard is pretty low. This is good example when approaching art with "politics first" -angle, how shitty it can get. Even the bands she criticizes, aren't political in a way word is generally understood.
Very, very true. There are PLENTY of absolutely awful NSBM bands that, thankfully, don't get any respect. Any actual music where the theme take precedent over the sound is usually garbage. I, for one, welcome any truly hateful left-leaning band that can present itself intelligently and with good musicality.
So would I but Nazbol metal is a bit of a pipe dream at the moment with only me under the Gaskeri moniker and Maleficar taking is seriously. I don't think NKVD is genuine but nice imagery. Sort of a Sex Pistols start off that branch. It's just beginning.
"Porn is not acting. The overwhelming majority of contemporary pornography is literally filmed violence against women -- violence somehow rendered invisible by the context."
http://reason.com/blog/2019/01/05/porn-censor-notre-dame-male-college-stud
I've been following this story the past few weeks. It was obvious this was fake all along, yet the left jumped behind it immediately. Really joyous watching this unfold.
https://nypost.com/2019/02/18/the-smollett-hoax-and-the-2020-democrats-shame/
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on December 04, 2018, 07:40:38 AM
Great literature causes men to hate and kill women.
https://electricliterature.com/the-literary-roots-of-the-incel-movement-4ba183b9c9c5 (https://electricliterature.com/the-literary-roots-of-the-incel-movement-4ba183b9c9c5)
Lmaooooooo holy fuck
I didn't research in detail, but in the last days there were lots of alarming and angry reports, that Will Smith is not black enough to act as the tennis coach/father of the Williams' sisters in a new biopic.
Really funny world we live in.
Quote from: CosmicWeaponOfThule on December 01, 2018, 11:49:37 PM
https://www.discogs.com/Various-Anti-Mikko-Aspa-Co-Split/release/12617934
Hahahahahahahaha
What is the point of this thread?
Quote from: Thor on March 14, 2019, 07:57:00 PMWhat is the point of this thread?
You post here when you get butthurt about someone else getting butthurt... Then someone like you gets butthurt about that. So in essence, this is a thread about butthurt.
Chelsea Clinton & those like her caused the Christchurch massacre:
http://reason.com/blog/2019/03/16/chelsea-clinton-nyu-new-zealand-islam
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on March 16, 2019, 06:48:07 PM
Chelsea Clinton & those like her caused the Christchurch massacre:
http://reason.com/blog/2019/03/16/chelsea-clinton-nyu-new-zealand-islam
Haha, pure comedy. But somehow I always knew Chelsea is the root of all evil...
QuoteThe young woman's friends—most of whom are not visible in the video footage of the encounter—snap their fingers in solidarity.
Why?
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on March 22, 2019, 02:47:16 PM
QuoteThe young woman's friends—most of whom are not visible in the video footage of the encounter—snap their fingers in solidarity.
Why?
From what I understand, people snap their fingers instead of clapping now because clapping is too loud of a sound and it triggers them for whatever reason.
If clapping is too much for you to handle, you probably shouldn't be alive.
Quote from: PTM Jim on March 22, 2019, 03:52:01 PM
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on March 22, 2019, 02:47:16 PM
QuoteThe young woman's friends—most of whom are not visible in the video footage of the encounter—snap their fingers in solidarity.
Why?
From what I understand, people snap their fingers instead of clapping now because clapping is too loud of a sound and it triggers them for whatever reason.
If clapping is too much for you to handle, you probably shouldn't be alive.
Yes I recall this being a student thing from last year
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/uk-news/university-discourages-clapping-avoid-triggering-15225428
Doing "Jazz Hands" sign language is fine if you want to include those hard of hearing into an applause, but finger snapping just seems weird.
Hand clapping causes right-on uni students distress, aye? Hmmm....
https://www.kerrang.com/the-news/tau-cross-dropped-by-relapse-records-for-thanking-holocaust-denier/
Rob Miller of Amebix thanks Gerard Menuhin (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/27810799-tell-the-truth-shame-the-devil) in liner notes, butthurt & pc faggotry ensues
https://www.kerrang.com/the-news/corey-taylor-slams-holocaust-deniers/
"Slams"= a tweet.
Quote from: A-Z on July 10, 2019, 07:01:05 PM
https://www.kerrang.com/the-news/tau-cross-dropped-by-relapse-records-for-thanking-holocaust-denier/
Rob Miller of Amebix thanks Gerard Menuhin (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/27810799-tell-the-truth-shame-the-devil) in liner notes, butthurt & pc faggotry ensues
I feel like the only person truly butthurt in this is the guy from Hellbastard.....
Washington Post writer says the remake of The Lion King is fascist. The article is behind a paywall so:
https://www.frontpagemag.com/point/274280/angry-washington-post-white-man-says-lion-king-daniel-greenfield
I've never seen T.L.K. so maybe he's correct.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on July 14, 2019, 02:13:18 AM
Washington Post writer says the remake of The Lion King is fascist. The article is behind a paywall so:
https://www.frontpagemag.com/point/274280/angry-washington-post-white-man-says-lion-king-daniel-greenfield
I've never seen T.L.K. so maybe he's correct.
I can't tell what's real anymore.
All Disney films are fascist, how is this news?
the real controversy is that they are basically pretending it isn't animation https://www.cartoonbrew.com/ideas-commentary/jon-favreau-made-an-animated-lion-king-but-he-still-doesnt-want-you-to-call-it-an-animated-film-175028.html
QuoteAs for the Sheryl Crow-Morrissey mashup, he said nearly as little thought went into the coverup as did the initial tattoo. "I was trying to find someone who hopefully wasn't going to say something terrible – now I have to sit around and hope she doesn't blow it in the next 30 years or so," he said. "I don't want to have to cross out another name."
https://www.theguardian.com/fashion/2019/jul/24/morrissey-tattoo-sheryl-crow-coverup
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on July 14, 2019, 02:13:18 AM
Washington Post writer says the remake of The Lion King is fascist. The article is behind a paywall so:
https://www.frontpagemag.com/point/274280/angry-washington-post-white-man-says-lion-king-daniel-greenfield
I've never seen T.L.K. so maybe he's correct.
Late on the ball here, but I love this quote about Scar:
"Simultaneously, his effeminate gestures and lack of interest in heterosexual reproduction mark him as queer, like the vast majority of other villains in Disney's exclusively heterosexual world."The
vast majority of villains are queer in an
exclusively heterosexual world. The people who write these things do not use language the way real people do. Words to them are not meant to describe reality, nor any meaningful interpretation of reality. I'm not even sure they are trying to say anything at all.
I've had a few interview requests in my email inbox after the Iro n March forums got hacked and everyones information was revealed, mine included, by anti-fa. Not going to respond to any of them. It's funny how no one has a problem with hacked messages, addresses, names, IP's, etc being revealed publicly like that as long as it's just "right wingers", local law enforcement in the States are supposedly even using the info from the hacks to track people down, people are getting fired from their jobs, members who were in the military are getting articles by vice and the Guardian written about them, it's a bit over the top.
oh no that's terrible are all the white supremacists going to be ok?
Right? You can accuse guys like that of many things, but flippancy with regards to online privacy has never been one of them. Sickening.
Quote from: aububs on January 03, 2020, 12:52:15 AM
oh no that's terrible are all the white supremacists going to be ok?
Alhumdulilah, just fine.
Behringer accused of antisemitism for obvious Pinocchio caricature.
http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2020/03/02/behringer-dismisses-critics-as-haters-launches-hate-attack-on-journalist/?fbclid=IwAR0Sbmlt1sZtIe8T_r4uXfbMkhl-TeFsSK0C6ODQots9ZbtFliLBmlonoUI
Quote from: tiny_tove on March 03, 2020, 02:16:33 PM
Behringer accused of antisemitism for obvious Pinocchio caricature.
http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2020/03/02/behringer-dismisses-critics-as-haters-launches-hate-attack-on-journalist/?fbclid=IwAR0Sbmlt1sZtIe8T_r4uXfbMkhl-TeFsSK0C6ODQots9ZbtFliLBmlonoUI
huh? its pretty obvious the picture was inspired by that jewish caricature, even if it has a long nose. i mean it has nothing esle in common with pinocchio than the long nose and everything else is directly lifted from that jewish caricature. i'm sure uli didn't tell his art team to actually go for straight up antisemitism, but whoever did the art surely knew what they were referencing there. a funny way to conduct business for sure and they deserve all the shit they can get for it, intentional or not.
I don't think it's that obvious that it was derived from the caricature, but even if it was I don't know if I would see it as problematic.
The joke is supposed to be him sniffing knobs in reviews with a long pinocchio nose? (=lying? about ...what?) Not that funny imo, would blame their heritage but then again maybe I just don't get it due to mine.
Quote from: deutscheasphalt on March 03, 2020, 06:47:21 PM
I don't think it's that obvious that it was derived from the caricature, but even if it was I don't know if I would see it as problematic.
if this was some edgelord on twitter i would agree, who cares but it's one of the biggest music gear brands in the world, attacking a journalist who outed their shady business practises. the fact that their smear campaign was based on an old antisemitic caricature is just icing on the cake.
Some people at Behringer must've gotten real mad at him to plan the campaign for that long and even trademarking the journalist's name. I find that cringeworthy however, the article linked does not view the potential caricature inspiration as icing on the cake, for them that's the real issue which I don't agree with. Jews aren't exactly the most oppressed minority either.
Behringer are the 100% butthurt ones here. Truly pathetic a massive corporation going after an independent journalist for criticising them on some synth blog, let alone doing so with childish 4chan-style shitposts and - more to the point -
actually spite-trademarking the guy's name!! then deleting said posts, sorry-not-sorry apologising, deleting the apology and censoring any comments referring to the sad affair on their other FB posts :D
and yeah of course plenty of 'apolitical' synth nerds are all like "WOKE SJW VIRTUE SIGNALLERS WHY EVERYTHINGS ABOUT NAZIS THESE DAYS WAAH ;__:" but it's a fact that the caricature very obviously was a blatant reference to the notorious cartoon by one of Boyd Rice's mates 'A Wyatt Mann', itself originally done as some nihilistic 'free speech' 'satire' provocation or whatever but of course now used unironically by actual antisemites and 4chan trolls to the point where it's now one of the most famous antisemitic symbols in the world. I doubt anyone at behringer sat down and said 'put an antisemitic cartoon on this render plz' but their social media team* are obviously so steeped in babyish 'edgy' 4chan culture they didn't even realise it would be an issue.
*pretty much just one person, I have it on good authority.
QuoteJews aren't exactly the most oppressed minority either.
It's not a competition, and anyway that doesn't make antisemitism not antisemitic, nor does it mean a company who make cheap mixers needn't bother to make sure they don't accidentally parody the most famous antisemitic cartoon of our times on their cringeworthy 'joke' synth render
AND THEN there's the true punchline to all this....
THEY.... CLONED THE JOKE?!?!?!! https://reverb.com/item/21514392-the-cork-sniffer-preamp-dirtyboost-from-blammo?fbclid=IwAR3YyTcSPEg4dZGtgPzqxmhe2jXZzJjIMgSBNz64-lbaztEP6Ivb3MMysUM
Quote from: Cementimental on March 03, 2020, 11:05:44 PM
Behringer are the 100% butthurt ones here. Truly pathetic a massive corporation going after an independent journalist for criticising them on some synth blog, let alone doing so with childish 4chan-style shitposts and - more to the point - actually spite-trademarking the guy's name!! then deleting said posts, sorry-not-sorry apologising, deleting the apology and censoring any comments referring to the sad affair on their other FB posts :D
and yeah of course plenty of 'apolitical' synth nerds are all like "WOKE SJW VIRTUE SIGNALLERS WHY EVERYTHINGS ABOUT NAZIS THESE DAYS WAAH ;__:" but it's a fact that the caricature very obviously was a blatant reference to the notorious cartoon by one of Boyd Rice's mates 'A Wyatt Mann', itself originally done as some nihilistic 'free speech' 'satire' provocation or whatever but of course now used unironically by actual antisemites and 4chan trolls to the point where it's now one of the most famous antisemitic symbols in the world. I doubt anyone at behringer sat down and said 'put an antisemitic cartoon on this render plz' but their social media team* are obviously so steeped in babyish 'edgy' 4chan culture they didn't even realise it would be an issue.
*pretty much just one person, I have it on good authority.
QuoteJews aren't exactly the most oppressed minority either.
It's not a competition, and anyway that doesn't make antisemitism not antisemitic, nor does it mean a company who make cheap mixers needn't bother to make sure they don't accidentally parody the most famous antisemitic cartoon of our times on their cringeworthy 'joke' synth render
Exactly! Couldn't agree more. Fuck behringer.
Quote from: Cementimental on March 03, 2020, 11:05:44 PMQuoteJews aren't exactly the most oppressed minority either.
It's not a competition, and anyway that doesn't make antisemitism not antisemitic, nor does it mean a company who make cheap mixers needn't bother to make sure they don't accidentally parody the most famous antisemitic cartoon of our times on their cringeworthy 'joke' synth render
I didn't say that, what I meant was that jews are not as negatively affected by antisemitism nowadays than for instance black people by racism, because the former are pretty well off in society nowadays.
If Behringer really did take the rubbing hands meme as source for the illustration then of course it's antisemitic. My point is 1. that the outcome of that would not be that bad (given that it's not that bad to be a jew in today's society anymore, as established above) and 2. that even though the drawings look similar, it's conjecture to say they definitely copied the meme.
either way they are idiots.
ha the apology mentions 'semitism' not 'anti-semitism', they can't even get that right :D
Quote from: host body on March 03, 2020, 06:16:33 PM
Quote from: tiny_tove on March 03, 2020, 02:16:33 PM
Behringer accused of antisemitism for obvious Pinocchio caricature.
http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2020/03/02/behringer-dismisses-critics-as-haters-launches-hate-attack-on-journalist/?fbclid=IwAR0Sbmlt1sZtIe8T_r4uXfbMkhl-TeFsSK0C6ODQots9ZbtFliLBmlonoUI
huh? its pretty obvious the picture was inspired by that jewish caricature
are you for real?
(https://i0.wp.com/www.synthtopia.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/behringer-cork-e1583213913650.jpg)
OBVIOUS
(https://as2.ftcdn.net/jpg/00/34/72/69/500_F_34726901_bv2WIhES4BqgKYfs4xhNufH80Uj0JV1l.jpg)
(https://staticr1.blastingcdn.com/media/photogallery/2016/8/4/660x290/b_502x220/pinocchio-e-il-celebre-personaggio-inventato-dalla-penna-di-carlo-collodi_815491.jpg)
NOT OBVIOUS
(https://i1.wp.com/www.synthtopia.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/jewish-stereotype.jpg)
they do not look the same at all to me. No kippa, different hands position, baldness, hooked nose, forehead, drooping eyelids
guy in the pedal could be me, I look the same when I have beard, just grey bearded
Behringer does shit pedals, weak mixers , but the recent line of lo-budget is cool. The wasp and the Neutron are very good (ask terror cell unit bros). Surely they over reacted on this but I do not see antisemite caricature. That is pinocchio who sniff cork and is a liar for them.
Personally I love the site and I would have debated criticism, but it made me laugh anyway.
Also people complaining about the apology being a non-apology are fucking stupid. There's never anything else to apologize for other than hurting someone else's feelings, otherwise why would you apologize? So useless to even demand it.
to me the only mystery is how behringer doesn't understand they are not in the same category as the vintage synths they try to emulate, but as a cheap alternative both in price and sound. why be upset that a reviewer pointed out what we've all known for years?
don't care what anyone says, if you asked me to draw that antisemitic meme character from memory in MS paint you'd basically get what behringer put on there :D That's their problem, not mine or anyone else pointing out the similarity
I suppose I can see a couple of similarities, if I were looking for similarities. But I'm as familiar as anyone else with that Jewish caricature, and if I'd seen the Behringer thing before reading about this affair, I would not have picked it as a copy, intentional or not. Doesn't even look like the chap they're trying to take the piss out of, either. It's petty, but it's hardly offensive.
Overreactions from everyone, really.
Quote from: Cementimental on March 04, 2020, 01:25:40 AM
don't care what anyone says, if you asked me to draw that antisemitic meme character from memory in MS paint you'd basically get what behringer put on there :D That's their problem, not mine or anyone else pointing out the similarity
I love you my friend ah ah
this is the most complete article on the Behringer affair. Even motherboard attempted to draw the attention on the subject. I contacted the journalist of motherboard and she did not reply.
https://www.musictech.net/news/11-things-need-know-history-behringer-peter-kirn/?utm_source=hootsuite&utm_medium=&utm_term=&utm_content=&utm_campaign=
I'd take a balanced position here, after making at least quick-google sure that Kirn isn't an obvious disgusting shill. His criticism in the original articles weren't that aggressive, and didn't say anything new as far as I can tell. Considering that Behringer doesn't exactly hide their cloning habits, I can't even see why they took notice to begin with. Behringer could simply have ignored it, or perhaps made a curt reply. At the very worst they could have done the hilarious pedal meme without the copyright bullshit.
In total, my opinion is that any talk of the dangers of anti-semitic pedal decorations is too stupid to even be discussed, but trying to copyright someone's name - "spite-copyrighting" seems to sum it up - is not legit behavior coming from a major company towards a single dude. I say this despite the fact that I am quite sure that the entire mob ganging up on Behringer (at least the parts of it that are concerned with the artwork of the peda memel) is completely fine with any sort of harassment against people they dislike, and can all go fornicate themselves with whatever pedals they prefer to this one. Despite that, I think it's a sound principle to limit the power of companies to exert pressure on single individuals, and that Behringer went overboard here. Not that "journalists" have or should have any claim what so ever to special protection , but despite all evidence to the contrary I believe they can still be classified as individuals.
in fact. we have two separate issues:
- this poor guy saying things that many think and getting attacked in a creative way
- the antisemitic farce used as an excuse to damage Berhinger. As said, Pinocchio is no Shylock. It's easy to call a Kraut a Nazi if you want to hurt him. The whole world will confirm.
it is a loose lose situation
Don't worry, the whole thing has gone down the memory hole and everyone's moved on to posting handwashing guides with 'hilarious' inappropriate song lyrics added
Quote from: aububs on January 03, 2020, 12:52:15 AM
oh no that's terrible are all the white supremacists going to be ok?
slippery slopes. I hope a chinaman coughs in your mouth
QuoteA slippery slope argument (SSA), in logic, critical thinking, political rhetoric, and caselaw, is often viewed as a logical fallacy[1] in which a party asserts that a relatively small first step leads to a chain of related events culminating in some significant (usually negative) effect.[2] The core of the slippery slope argument is that a specific decision under debate is likely to result in unintended consequences. The strength of such an argument depends on the warrant, i.e. whether or not one can demonstrate a process that leads to the significant effect. This type of argument is sometimes used as a form of fearmongering, in which the probable consequences of a given action are exaggerated in an attempt to scare the audience.
not giving a shit about white supremacists is a slippery slope to drinking diseased phlegm
Quote from: PuddysJacket on March 19, 2020, 09:29:46 PM
Quote from: aububs on January 03, 2020, 12:52:15 AM
oh no that's terrible are all the white supremacists going to be ok?
slippery slopes. I hope a chinaman coughs in your mouth
china pretty much has the epidemic under control. europe or america, not so much.
Also, Dude, Chinaman is not the preferred nomenclature.
Virtually every political and social change (violent revolutions included) has been begun with, often even fully accomplished through, a "slippery slope". The assertion that it is a logical fallacy makes no sense.
It is by definition a logical fallacy since the assumed consequence cannot be established in a logical argument.
However this other dude just used it as a buzzword to make himself look intelligent for something that doesn't contain a slippery slope argument at all.
When people point out logical fallacies it is almost always an expression of hypocrisy, but many logical fallacies (straw man, ad hominem, even reductio ad hitlerum), can theoretically be avoided by all parties. You don't HAVE to call your leftie buddie a communist, you CAN argue all relevant points with a MAGA hat dude without bringing up Hitler. If you're discussing concrete political or social predictions, I'm not so sure you can avoid the slippery slope argument as comfortably. At least no-one ever does.
"Slippery slope" arguments can certainly be discarded as fallacies in philosophy class or Rhetoric 101, but how would you discuss the relationship between current decisions and events and the future without them? One of the more famous arguments against Trump from the Left is that he will, or at least wants to, create a White Supremacist 50's America, much like the boomer argument against Obama was that he would make America more Islamic (or something, I don't care about these things). These are indeed stupid arguments, but only because we know that Trump isn't much of a "white racist", and that Obama was a secular capitalist shill with a bit of Scandinavian polish on him. The arguments, however, are not "illogical" or "fallacious" in any politically meaningful sense, and we can well formulate adult and even rational alternatives to them. Say "If Trump Tweets and says that NATO and the US will not defend the Baltic states unless they pay their full NATO dues, this will strengthen the geopolitical position of Russia". This is clearly "slippery slope" stuff - perhaps Putin will resign and personally head up the next Moscow Pride Parade out of sheer gratitude simply because Trump said he wouldn't back up Estonia, who knows? It's still a potentially relevant argument in a political discussion on Trump's public statements, and must be refuted with something else than wikipedia references.
To put it simpler:
"If you shoot heroin ten times a week there's a real possibility you will become a heroin addict and live in a shoe."
"SLIPPERY SLOPE ARGUMENT!"
Indeed it is - almost nothing in the realm of manifest reality and time follows logically from anything else - but the argument is still a very pertinent to the question of whether you should be shooting heroin regularly or not. Pure logic doesn't always interact well with reality, even if I agree that it is clearly the superior realm of those two.
Sorry I don't wanna dissect this too much but I feel there's a lot mixed up in what you said.
Quote from: Yrjö-Koskinen on March 21, 2020, 12:31:42 AM"If you shoot heroin ten times a week there's a real possibility you will become a heroin addict and live in a shoe."
"SLIPPERY SLOPE ARGUMENT!"
Not a great example for potential slippery slope. You could back that claim up with actual data to put a number to that "real" possibility. To me it's just a fancy sounding way of stating the invalidity of an argument whereas many people fail to present the actual flaw and just leave it with saying "SlIpPeRy SlOpE dUuDe".
Quote from: Yrjö-Koskinen on March 21, 2020, 12:31:42 AM- almost nothing in the realm of manifest reality and time follows logically from anything else -
that's why we have probabilistic logic
Quote from: Yrjö-Koskinen on March 21, 2020, 12:31:42 AMbut the argument is still a very pertinent to the question of whether you should be shooting heroin regularly or not.
If you introduce a premise that leads the argument towards heroin addiction being bad within a deontic system sure. But I can just reject that premise and all your normative claims with it.
Quote from: deutscheasphalt on March 21, 2020, 03:00:59 AM
Not a great example for potential slippery slope. You could back that claim up with actual data to put a number to that "real" possibility. To me it's just a fancy sounding way of stating the invalidity of an argument whereas many people fail to present the actual flaw and just leave it with saying "SlIpPeRy SlOpE dUuDe".
I used an exaggerated example to illustrate my claim, but the possibility of data and additional arguments was exactly what I was trying to get across. Lazy and useless slippery slope accusations are most commonly leveled against claims which can be supported/disproved by empirical information, or at least made more or less likely through additional arguments.
Statements such as "Cannabis is a gateway drug", "Accepting censorship of Nazis opens the possibility of censoring anyone opposing the status quo, and will increase censorship", "Advocating child rape may lead to an increase of actual child rape", etc may be true or untrue, but none of them can be discredited on their inherent structure alone. And leveling a charge of "slippery slope" in any real world argument is basically an attempt to pretend that they can. Once again: most political change take place through "slippery slope" processes. That is at least one of a few reasons why American public discourse is so preoccupied with Socialism, White Nationalism and Islamism, rather than any of the political currents that actually run American society.
If it was unclear, the heroin example included an unstated "deontic" context. It would be rather senseless to argue that multiple heroin injections are negative because of their addictive qualities in a discussion with, say, an addict who rejected the premise that heroin addiction is bad at all. Point taken, though.
Today I have read in various places that Facebook are combatting the prescence of hate on their platform by indiscriminately removing thousands of profiles belonging to skinheads (and seemingly also those who just like skinhead related pages).
This purge has included black ska musicians such as Neville Staples, and the page for Skinheads Against Racial Prejudice.
"Crucified" indeed!
Here's an interesting, clearly written article discussing George Floyd's toxicology report. The writer provides evidence showing Mr. Floyd was overdosing from Fentanyl and in the throes of Excited Delirium Syndrome when he was being arrested and detained...
https://www.unz.com/article/or-did-george-floyd-die-of-a-drug-overdose/ (https://www.unz.com/article/or-did-george-floyd-die-of-a-drug-overdose/)
Quote from: APPLE on June 09, 2020, 08:37:31 PM
Today I have read in various places that Facebook are combatting the prescence of hate on their platform by indiscriminately removing thousands of profiles belonging to skinheads (and seemingly also those who just like skinhead related pages).
This purge has included black ska musicians such as Neville Staples, and the page for Skinheads Against Racial Prejudice.
"Crucified" indeed!
I think a lot of profiles are back now.
Lots of people who were barely posting anything "offensive", or ever voicing opinions of anything. Just somehow linked to skinheads. Temporarily just about anything was (temporarily) suspended.
Does it matter that he, or anyone for that matter, who dies in that fashion was on drugs or had a syndrome? Red herrings. He died from asphyxiation, after nearly 9 minutes of having upwards of 100LBs of pressure on his neck. It's not as if he tapped out in a time frame that is abnormal. Can anyone live through that? I don't ask that rhetorically. I mean, scientifically, wouldn't most, if not all, humans asphyxiate in that physical situation? Maybe some free divers. I think the record for holding their breath is like 22 minutes or something. We have to ask ourselves as a culture, is being on drugs, or being on drugs with health issues (physiological or mental), a justified death sentence. As far as I know, neither is. If you want to have that discussion, then we should have it. Same for disobeying the police or running from them. Not on the books as death sentences. Not to get too sidetracked, but I feel similar about sex offenders. If you want to give them a life sentence, then let's have that specific discussion. It's unjust to make them register, making them unable to get jobs, rent homes, etc and give them a passive-aggressive life sentence that makes it impossible for them to live a normal life. Hand down a sentence. Serve it. Now, you're free. If you want to forever punish them, that's another discussion about things other than sentencing. Let's have that discussion. Let's not tag all this bullshit onto issues and avoid the real questions.
discussion!
Quote from: death persuader on July 07, 2020, 10:34:43 PMDo you mean the entirety of the U.S. or what? Is the U.S. completely culturally homogeneous?
a national discussion and then through voting. I hope I didn't imply in some way any expectation of total agreement on a subject. Some clearly have endorsed being tougher and tougher on crime, which I hope is coming to an end, but even in that direction, I feel we've missed key questions that could still be asked and answered.
*I forgot to answer you about reading the article. I did. I didn't read it as cold hard facty as maybe some have. I found a fair bit of conjecture and loosely worded. In a nutshell, it didn't convince me of anything, other than a jury is going to have a good time, and I'm grateful I'm not going to be on it.
Quote from: death persuader on July 07, 2020, 05:10:25 PMQuote from: EID/MAR on June 20, 2020, 06:42:46 PMHere's an interesting, clearly written article discussing George Floyd's toxicology report. The writer provides evidence showing Mr. Floyd was overdosing from Fentanyl and in the throes of Excited Delirium Syndrome when he was being arrested and detained...
https://www.unz.com/article/or-did-george-floyd-die-of-a-drug-overdose/ (https://www.unz.com/article/or-did-george-floyd-die-of-a-drug-overdose/)
Unfortunate that this article isn't more popular, I'd love to see/hear someone(s) dispute some of what's presented here.
Very suspicious about the claim that Floyd was on a lethal dose of Fentanyl. I haven't found a 100% confident source that claims that a dose of >4.6ng/mL in plasma is lethal (only things like "2mg dose is lethal"), however the study referenced in the article is NOT a valid source either IMO: just because people in that study died from 4.6ng/mL does not make it the official lethal dose nor the reason Floyd died. Also calling 53ng/mL "super lethal" later on sounds quite anti-scientific and it is admitted people have survived similiar doses.
The article's use of this study thus seems like a straw-man to push some political agenda. If something this doubtful is used to make such a huge claim I'm having a hard time believing the author's weren't biased.
"Would Floyd have died from a Fentanyl overdose if the officer didn't kneel on his neck?" <- hard to answer?
"do people die from being kneeled on the neck for 9 minutes?" <- YUP!
If you're interested in another article and interpretation of the situation, here you go. They're endless, and I've never heard of this site. Seemed like a decently fair analysis though.
https://www.medpagetoday.com/blogs/working-stiff/86913
Quote from: death persuader on July 07, 2020, 10:34:43 PMQuote from: Zeno Marx on July 07, 2020, 08:18:17 PMDoes it matter that he, or anyone for that matter, who dies in that fashion was on drugs or had a syndrome?
Yes
why?
Quote from: Zeno Marx on July 07, 2020, 08:18:17 PM
Does it matter that he, or anyone for that matter, who dies in that fashion was on drugs or had a syndrome? Red herrings. He died from asphyxiation, after nearly 9 minutes of having upwards of 100LBs of pressure on his neck. It's not as if he tapped out in a time frame that is abnormal. Can anyone live through that? I don't ask that rhetorically. I mean, scientifically, wouldn't most, if not all, humans asphyxiate in that physical situation? Maybe some free divers. I think the record for holding their breath is like 22 minutes or something. We have to ask ourselves as a culture, is being on drugs, or being on drugs with health issues (physiological or mental), a justified death sentence. As far as I know, neither is. If you want to have that discussion, then we should have it. Same for disobeying the police or running from them. Not on the books as death sentences.
Thing is that if you are on drugs, and depending the drug, you may have different reactions than normal. For example, panic ! With unpredictable results for your body. Heart attack, difficulty to breath, whatever. So i guess the question in the court wont be if he died by overdose but if drugs played a role to his death ...
I havent ever been in US but i, from the other side of the planet, know if i resist arrest there or run away, it's very likely to get shot on my back ! And the fact that policemen get away with this tells me that they are allowed to do so. Here for policeman to shoot he has to be shooted first ! So that's the rules, you know them, i know them, wanna risk ? Fine. - Do americans wanna change these police rules / practice ? Try it. I am afraid then you will complain about crime increase and lack of policemen. No sane would like to wait to get shooted first in order to be able to defend himself, in US specificaly where it's very likely the person you deal with he carries a gun.
You are policeman. You arrest mostly black guys. You know it's more likely to be shooted by black than white. That's not stats only, it's their experience, their life. So yes, naturaly they have different treatment for black people, and be more suspicious with them indeed. Before anyone accuses them easily, it's better to think yourself in their shoes for a moment. You are dealing with a giant like Floyd, what you do ? You do what they have trained you for such cases. The knee ! For sure the policeman in this case kept it for very long, wasnt necessary for that long. - But it's obvious he didnt have murder intentions [in front of camera ? Come on !] , he made a mistake [he stubbornly kept doing the knee, like he was sure nothing bad will happen] , under pressure , while he was applying the most suitable / light practice for the case. That mistake, helped by Floyd's drug use or not , led to death . Obviously he is not capable / suitable to serve anymore. I believe he has to do some prison time, cause a life is lost and he was involved, but he doesnt deserve to be treated like cold blood murderer cause he is not !
Quote from: death persuader on July 09, 2020, 02:28:13 AMEntering a high stress situation/altercation and getting a knee on your neck for a while certainly doesn't sound like much of a remedy for that disastrous cocktail either
agreed
Nearly everyone over the age of 35, maybe 40, has some sort of chronic disease or health-related predisposition of some sort, be it genetic and/or via eating and living like shit. Then you get into things like grocery store deserts, economics, etc and health. It's difficult to factor, and they're often entered as red hearrings into court cases. Like with rape, "Was she drinking?" It's a tactic that works (no shit, Sherlock), but it's also bullshit...social bullshit, playing with jurors' stiff and feeble minds.
Quote from: death persuader on July 09, 2020, 02:28:13 AM
Quote from: Zeno Marx on July 07, 2020, 11:41:24 PM
If you're interested in another article and interpretation of the situation, here you go. They're endless, and I've never heard of this site. Seemed like a decently fair analysis though.
https://www.medpagetoday.com/blogs/working-stiff/86913
I'm interested in any article that doesn't exist for the sole purpose of sucking any one group's cock, I'm not so rigid about this particular situation but we live in bizarro-world where getting authentic information is becoming increasingly tough, I will give this a look at some point.
Perhaps trusting information from the Unz Review isn't the best idea... it's pure lunatic fringe nuttery. Some recent top articles:
"Is Jeffrey Epstein's Boss Ghislaine Maxwell Helping Mossad Run Pedophile Rings for Prince Andrew and the Ruling Elite"
"Are the Democrats a Political Party or a CIA-Backed Fifth Column?"
"American Pravda: John McCain, Jeffrey Epstein, and Pizzagate"
"Top 3 Reasons to Doubt the Ahmaud "Just a Jogger" Arbery Narrative"
Quote from: yosef666 on July 10, 2020, 09:53:09 AM
Perhaps trusting information from the Unz Review isn't the best idea... it's pure lunatic fringe nuttery. Some recent top articles:
"Is Jeffrey Epstein's Boss Ghislaine Maxwell Helping Mossad Run Pedophile Rings for Prince Andrew and the Ruling Elite"
Say what you will about the Unz, but ever since they hired
this guy (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbAJivTHPoQ&feature=youtu.be&t=56) to fact check their lead articles the quality of reporting has drastically improved.
Quote from: yosef666 on July 10, 2020, 09:53:09 AM
"Is Jeffrey Epstein's Boss Ghislaine Maxwell Helping Mossad Run Pedophile Rings for Prince Andrew and the Ruling Elite"
"Are the Democrats a Political Party or a CIA-Backed Fifth Column?"
"American Pravda: John McCain, Jeffrey Epstein, and Pizzagate"
"Top 3 Reasons to Doubt the Ahmaud "Just a Jogger" Arbery Narrative"
and what exactly seems to be the problem with any of those?
Quote from: death persuader on July 11, 2020, 12:11:35 AM
Quote from: yosef666 on July 10, 2020, 09:53:09 AM
Quote from: death persuader on July 09, 2020, 02:28:13 AM
Quote from: Zeno Marx on July 07, 2020, 11:41:24 PM
If you're interested in another article and interpretation of the situation, here you go. They're endless, and I've never heard of this site. Seemed like a decently fair analysis though.
https://www.medpagetoday.com/blogs/working-stiff/86913
I'm interested in any article that doesn't exist for the sole purpose of sucking any one group's cock, I'm not so rigid about this particular situation but we live in bizarro-world where getting authentic information is becoming increasingly tough, I will give this a look at some point.
Perhaps trusting information from the Unz Review isn't the best idea... it's pure lunatic fringe nuttery. Some recent top articles:
"Is Jeffrey Epstein's Boss Ghislaine Maxwell Helping Mossad Run Pedophile Rings for Prince Andrew and the Ruling Elite"
"Are the Democrats a Political Party or a CIA-Backed Fifth Column?"
"American Pravda: John McCain, Jeffrey Epstein, and Pizzagate"
"Top 3 Reasons to Doubt the Ahmaud "Just a Jogger" Arbery Narrative"
Never heard of the Unz before this article but if you want to pick a bunch of (fringe) click-bait article titles/headlines with intent to discredit entire outlets/websites/etc. we could do it for days with even more well known, "trusted" outlets... Whatever that means in 2020.
"Joe Biden blames sexual assaults on 'white man's culture'"
"Classical Opera has a racism problem"
""It's all white people": Allegations of white supremacy are tearing apart a prestigious medieval studies group"
"London cyclists too white, male and middle class, says capital's cycling chief in vow to tackle diversity 'problem'"
"Black Lives Matter protests may have slowed overall spread of coronavirus"
But it's not about the outlet, it's about information, and if you navigate correctly you can get information from a lot of outlets. The official autopsy report is in the list of sources in that Unz article, that's something I was interested in seeing.
Unz is a fringe consipracy theory website. If you choose to consider it a reliable news source... well, that's your call. Generally I look for reporting done by reporters on the ground, interviewing involved parties for the story they're writing. A good reporter follows a story wherever it leads without predetermined answers. That's not Unz by a long shot. I'm not saying there's no liberal/left bias in modern mainstream journalis, but comparing "Classical Opera has a racism problem" to "Is Jeffrey Epstein's Boss Ghislaine Maxwell Helping Mossad Run Pedophile Rings for Prince Andrew and the Ruling Elite" is ridiculous. The first is an example of PC culture running amok, the second is batshit crazy.
And the "Joe Biden blames sexual assaults on 'white man's culture'" is from the NY Post. That paper is basically a half-step up from a tabloid with a strong pseudo-populist bent.
Quote from: yosef666 on July 11, 2020, 02:12:01 AMIf you choose to consider it a reliable news source... well, that's your call.
I don't think I implied I did, but the actual information I was after (again, the official Hennepin county medical examiner's autopsy report) was linked there. My point earlier was that regardless of the outlet, website, article, writer, journalist, etc., unless the entire article(s) is filled with absolute bullshit (genuine lies) and lacking sources, you can glean information for your own further research from these places.
Quote from: yosef666 on July 11, 2020, 02:12:01 AMThe first is an example of PC culture running amok, the second is batshit crazy.
I didn't realize the two were separable.
Quote from: yosef666 on July 10, 2020, 09:53:09 AM
Perhaps trusting information from the Unz Review isn't the best idea... it's pure lunatic fringe nuttery. Some recent top articles:
"Is Jeffrey Epstein's Boss Ghislaine Maxwell Helping Mossad Run Pedophile Rings for Prince Andrew and the Ruling Elite"
"Are the Democrats a Political Party or a CIA-Backed Fifth Column?"
"American Pravda: John McCain, Jeffrey Epstein, and Pizzagate"
"Top 3 Reasons to Doubt the Ahmaud "Just a Jogger" Arbery Narrative"
Folks at The Onion must be jealous of some of these.
Quote from: yosef666 on July 10, 2020, 09:53:09 AM
Quote from: death persuader on July 09, 2020, 02:28:13 AM
Quote from: Zeno Marx on July 07, 2020, 11:41:24 PM
If you're interested in another article and interpretation of the situation, here you go. They're endless, and I've never heard of this site. Seemed like a decently fair analysis though.
https://www.medpagetoday.com/blogs/working-stiff/86913
I'm interested in any article that doesn't exist for the sole purpose of sucking any one group's cock, I'm not so rigid about this particular situation but we live in bizarro-world where getting authentic information is becoming increasingly tough, I will give this a look at some point.
Perhaps trusting information from the Unz Review isn't the best idea... it's pure lunatic fringe nuttery. Some recent top articles:
"Is Jeffrey Epstein's Boss Ghislaine Maxwell Helping Mossad Run Pedophile Rings for Prince Andrew and the Ruling Elite"
"Are the Democrats a Political Party or a CIA-Backed Fifth Column?"
"American Pravda: John McCain, Jeffrey Epstein, and Pizzagate"
"Top 3 Reasons to Doubt the Ahmaud "Just a Jogger" Arbery Narrative"
In a public discourse where ideas such as "Donald Trump is secretly controlled by Russia" or "American police officers are targeting innocent black males for murder (or why not 'genocide')" is not considered lunatic fringe, it's not exactly strange that people believe stuff like this. Why not? It's not dumber in any way what so ever. Furthermore: it is not lunatic fringe websites providing pseudointellectual fodder for rioters and idiots in the US today, it is CNN and their various buddies. The fact of the matter is that American mainstream media is now the exact same shit as UNZ, except it is far more influential and far more dangerous.
That being said, I don't think Prince Andrew is running any pedophile ring. As a general rule, as soon as European royalty is involved in an article, it's usually a safe bet to sort it in the loonie bin.
Quote from: Yrjö-Koskinen on July 11, 2020, 10:13:44 PM
As a general rule, as soon as European royalty is involved in an article, it's usually a safe bet to sort it in the loonie bin.
I wouldn't be so sure.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/belgian-royal-family-dismisses-paedophile-claims-over-king-9180652.html
https://nltimes.nl/2016/04/18/forced-child-prostitution-case-netherlands-elite-royalty-microscope
https://time.com/2974381/england-land-of-royals-tea-and-horrific-pedophilia-coverups/
Always easier & safer for one's mental health to scrub stuf under the rug as "lunatic conspiracy theories", no question about that.
Quote from: A-Z on July 12, 2020, 05:35:45 PM
Quote from: Yrjö-Koskinen on July 11, 2020, 10:13:44 PM
As a general rule, as soon as European royalty is involved in an article, it's usually a safe bet to sort it in the loonie bin.
I wouldn't be so sure.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/belgian-royal-family-dismisses-paedophile-claims-over-king-9180652.html
https://nltimes.nl/2016/04/18/forced-child-prostitution-case-netherlands-elite-royalty-microscope
https://time.com/2974381/england-land-of-royals-tea-and-horrific-pedophilia-coverups/
Always easier & safer for one's mental health to scrub stuf under the rug as "lunatic conspiracy theories", no question about that.
Pedophilia was largely romanticized and accepted by large portions of the radical shit culture of the 70s and 80s, yes (https://newrepublic.com/article/120379/german-green-party-pedophilia-scandal, https://c-fam.org/turtle_bay/daniel-cohn-bendit-and-the-1968-revolution-paedophilia-as-part-of-their-political-agenda/) and it is highly likely that this gross perversion influenced/coincided with the habits of some influential people. Most likely, the aftermath of this is what we're still seeing. It still doesn't add up to the "lizard people run the world for their own sexual purposes" vibe that most conspiracy sites peddle.
Quote from: Yrjö-Koskinen on July 12, 2020, 11:49:02 PM
"lizard people run the world for their own sexual purposes"
this is how it works, this whole "conspiracy theory" deal, it was invented specifically for this exact purpose
https://projectunspeakable.com/conspiracy-theory-invention-of-cia/
make up some obvious nonsense, ie space lizards, flat earth, Hitler's flying saucers and whatnot
lump it together with whatever information you want to discredit
job done, no need for expensive coverups, things get hidden in plain sight
and if somebody tries to point something out to an average joe, all he sees is LIZADRS LIARDS LIZARDS
it's not lizards, it's rich and powerful people being extraordinary dicks and average joe subconsciously playing an ostrich
(and maybe playing an ostrich is the sanest thing to do, because you can't change jack shit anyway)
I think Alan Moore had said he doesnt believe in conspiracy theories cause there are so many conspiracies in progress, fighting against each other, that trying to explain what's happening by use of conspiracy theories is way too simple and wrong for the chaotic world we lived in. - I think it was in 'The Mindscape of Alan Moore' documentary, watched it many years ago but that's what stayed with me, in my own words. I totally share this view.
Also he said that the world gonna 'explode' by information overload. Then i thought 'bullshits' , now i am not sure about the world, but me i feel so close many times.
Edit : Just rewatched it. It's on YouTube : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFHn-HzacxY . Excellent !!
"The truth is more terrifying. Noone is in charge."
Quote from: Theodore on July 13, 2020, 03:12:37 AM
"The truth is more terrifying. Noone is in charge."
Excatly this. In some ways it's comforting to imagine that there's someone out there (Illuminati, Reptilians, Elders of Zion, Trilaterals, Freemasons) who know exactly what they're doing, & that no matter how insane the world seems, it's actually all under control & in accordance with a master plan. Plus our brains evolved to recognize patterns, which has helped us enormously in an evolutionary sense, but often leads to seeing patterns where none are there, or pareidolia. In extreme cases, like schizophrenia, this can lead an individual down some really dark paths, but even someone who would be considered cognitively "normal" or non-neurodivergent can easily begin to experience pareidolia when presented with specious arguments. Most QAnon believers are "normal" people who habve come to believe something that is so disconnected from reality that to anyone outside the bubble it looks crazy, but it's very comforting to those inside who feel like they know "what's really going on in the world". The same could be said for any religion.
I have two conspiracy theories about conspiracy theories. The first rhymes with some of the above. Yes the big bad world is a scary place and no you will never control your circumstances to the extent that you can ever feel completely safe and secure. But the conspiracy theory is a good safety valve to depress in lieu of taking responsibility for your lot in life. That's my first conspiracy theory.
The other one goes roughly like, get three people in a room for a certain amount of time and before long a conspiracy will emerge. It could simply be the two holding back the knowledge of
who farted from the one.
But seriously, I'm sure I know who that fucker is!Quote from: yosef666 on July 11, 2020, 02:12:01 AM
the NY Post. That paper is basically a half-step up from a tabloid with a strong pseudo-populist bent.
On matters of NY Post I defer to Chuck D-
QuoteHere's a letter to the New York Post
Ain't worth the paper it's printed on
Founded in 1801 by Alexander Hamilton
That's a hundred-ninety years of continuous fucked up news
what if the rich and powerful made plans to increase their wealth and power and invested all kinds of resources to see those plans come to fruition?
nah, don't be silly, it's just your pattern seeking mind playing tricks on you
stuff just happens all of a sudden for no good reason at all
only assholes and nutjobs say otherwise
I've spent over 20 years studying conspiracy theory, perceptual psychology and the ways our cognitive systems function and process sensory data. Alan Moore's suggestion regarding information overload appears to be largely correct, and I would suggest that the surge in mental health issues we're seeing in civilized society may be related to this.
For all of our evolution, we are still primates and still run the same 'operating system', so to speak, as our ancestors. The human nervous system hasn't been configured to deal with this new influx of information, which has occurred exponentially faster than at any time in recorded history, and it shows no signs of stopping.
Whether we like it or not, our cognitive faculties are based on pattern recognition; intuition also depends on those same systems.
I could go deep on this, but it's not relevant to the thread and I have no wish to derail it.
Suffice it to say, I've explored this avenue extensively and without turning into David Icke (who is at least 96.531% full of shit).
Perhaps another thread, another time.
http://www.special-interests.net/forum/index.php?topic=2391.0
we do have a thread for conspiracy theory.
Quote from: A-Z on July 14, 2020, 04:31:26 PM
what if the rich and powerful made plans to increase their wealth and power and invested all kinds of resources to see those plans come to fruition?
nah, don't be silly, it's just your pattern seeking mind playing tricks on you
stuff just happens all of a sudden for no good reason at all
only assholes and nutjobs say otherwise
The issue with conspiracies is that it requires lots and lots of individuals involved on various levels to pull something off. Mass manipulation of society can't be done by a few people in a back room somewhere; they could come up with a plan, but to put it in motion asuccessfully requires a lot of other people in on that plan. The more people who are in on a conspiracy, the more difficult it is to keep it secret.
https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0147905 (https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0147905)
Quote from: yosef666 on July 15, 2020, 04:03:01 AM
The more people who are in on a conspiracy, the more difficult it is to keep it secret.
this is why ''conspiracy theories'' exist
(i'll shut up now to stop derailing the thread)
Quote from: piss soaked receipt on July 18, 2020, 04:58:32 PM
Quote from: yosef666 on July 14, 2020, 03:38:34 AM
Quote from: Theodore on July 13, 2020, 03:12:37 AM
"The truth is more terrifying. Noone is in charge."
Excatly this. In some ways it's comforting to imagine that there's someone out there (Illuminati, Reptilians, Elders of Zion, Trilaterals, Freemasons) who know exactly what they're doing, & that no matter how insane the world seems, it's actually all under control & in accordance with a master plan.
I think this is just a juvenile way of looking at (and an oversimplification and a generalization of) conspiracy theories, a subject area which is not really that uniform.. Unless we're talking strictly about the more obviously overboard conspiracy theories birthed by or mutated at the hands of near schizophrenics, but I don't see a point in that discussion. I agree with this Alan Moore quote but I can't understand this discrediting of anything deemed to be a conspiracy theory or linked with conspiracy theories/theorists as if there's no merit in any conspiracy theory ever, this constant broad generalizing is what breeds fatuity.
I'm sorry if you were so butthurt by the generalizations, of which I'm certainly guilty. But in my partial defense I'd like to distinguish between conspiracies, which certainly exist- per my previous comment would almost appear to be intrinsic to our being- and conspiracy theories, which are, well, theories. By definition unproven, untested, inconclusive. So a necessary distance from the adamant insistence on the supposed facts of the matter. I think The Life Of Brian riffs on this quite nicely. Not the alien abduction scene, the one where he trails off in the middle of the soapbox oration...and inadvertently becomes "The Messiah!"
Varg's very attack on Italian DNA is the funniest thing I read in ages.
Quote from: tiny_tove on July 27, 2020, 02:47:38 PM
Varg's very attack on Italian DNA is the funniest thing I read in ages.
The butthurt is still going on there, people are angry about it, hehe.
Well couple pics from the family and daily life, things move on.
Until new attack on southern europeans, americans, and here we go again.
butthurt has to be one of the stupidest terms internet culture has produced. actually most of 4chan edgelord terms are, like soyboy etc.
Quote from: host body on July 29, 2020, 03:14:30 PM
butthurt has to be one of the stupidest terms internet culture has produced. actually most of 4chan edgelord terms are, like soyboy etc.
I am no expert but I have a hinch butthurt term was there before the "internet culture".
Quote from: evilxskin on July 30, 2020, 07:07:12 AM
Quote from: host body on July 29, 2020, 03:14:30 PM
butthurt has to be one of the stupidest terms internet culture has produced. actually most of 4chan edgelord terms are, like soyboy etc.
I am no expert but I have a hinch butthurt term was there before the "internet culture".
you're right, you are no expert
"Butthurt" was apparently first used online in 1998, so technically you're both right if we use "internet culture" to refer to post-2000's internet usage.
Unless you want to get really anal about it and trace the roots of "cyberculture" to the late 1960's...
[FYI: I'm taking the piss, obviously.]
Full bodycam footage of George Floyds arrest has been released:
https://youtu.be/XkEGGLu_fNU
Sooooooo....seems like George Floyd died from a drug-induced cardiac arrest after all........
Quote from: evilxskin on July 28, 2020, 08:01:45 AM
Quote from: tiny_tove on July 27, 2020, 02:47:38 PM
Varg's very attack on Italian DNA is the funniest thing I read in ages.
The butthurt is still going on there, people are angry about it, hehe.
Well couple pics from the family and daily life, things move on.
Until new attack on southern europeans, americans, and here we go again.
what is funnier he even used Northern League moron as an example of middle eastern influence ah ah
Quote from: W.K. on August 11, 2020, 04:08:31 PM
Full bodycam footage of George Floyds arrest has been released:
https://youtu.be/XkEGGLu_fNU
Sooooooo....seems like George Floyd died from a drug-induced cardiac arrest after all........
This was established already by the autopsy. Half the planet went insane over something that verifiably did not happen.
yeah he just hallucinated the cop kneeling on his neck for 9 minutes
Quote from: Cementimental on August 14, 2020, 04:49:49 PM
yeah he just hallucinated the cop kneeling on his neck for 9 minutes
This is a perfect example of how dangerously polarized we have become. Nuance is thrown out of the window. The facts are overlooked in favour of self-righteous posturing and it does nothing to help anyone. I'm not having a go at Tim here, it's just that this post exemplifies an issue I see constantly on both 'sides' where information is neglected in favour of narrative.
Yes, Floyd shouldn't have had a kneel on his neck for
any length of time. On the other hand, the officer employed a restraint technique that was used by the force in question.
Yes, Floyd should have been given medical assistance as he was overdosing right in front of them. On the other hand, he didn't mention that he was on drugs because he was driving and would end up back in jail due to his extensive criminal history. To an officer unaware of the amount of drugs involved - a more than substantial cocktail - it looks like Floyd was just throwing a bitch fit to avoid arrest.
No, Floyd didn't just say "I can't breathe" once the officer had him on the ground. He was saying it for at least six minutes before he was put on the ground, which he explicitly asked the police officers to do. He was saying he couldn't breathe due to overdosing on fentanyl, a synthetic opiate that's exponentially stronger than diamorphine, and has an LD50 in the microgram range. One of the main symptoms of an opiate OD is respiratory failure. Combine this with the methamphetamine in his body and you've got a recipe for disaster in any circumstances: Elevated heart-rate, perceptual disturbance, psychological crisis and failing respiratory system.
The methamphetamine part seems to get overlooked too. Floyd was clearly a big fan of his drugs, so it's not unreasonable to assume that he'd been smoking/shooting meth prior to the day of his death. Meth, and amphetamines in general, when used over a prolonged period of time, makes you go a bit crazy. I know because I ended up with 'speed psychosis' when I was younger due to the ridiculous amounts of amphetamine sulphate I used to do. Combine the perceptual and psychological perturbations with the elevated heart rate, and his body going into shock...it ain't a pretty picture being painted.
We have been presented with a blatantly false, manipulated narrative and told to believe it or be smeared as a racist. No human being should have to die like that and be denied their dignity in death, but that's not the whole story. The problem is that riots and racial hatred have been stoked by a media who have told us a tale that simply doesn't align with reality.
There are other aspects to the story that have been either ignored, obscured or hidden entirely, e.g. the two individuals who knew Floyd and the cop, both of whom said that the two of them worked together doing security and that they have a personal beef. They both changed their stories as soon as the media got involved. We could go Alex Jones on that and suggest that they were 'silenced', or we could look at it rationally and assume that they likely didn't want a far-left mob burning down their houses for going against the narrative. After all, if they were just trying to cash in by fabricating a story then they would easily have hit n' run by the time the cheque cleared and the lie was revealed.
Instead, they told a story that suggested a deeper and more personal grievance at play between Chauvin and Floyd; a story that ran contrary to the desired narrative, and threatened to undermine the apparent 'racial hatred' the media wanted to emphasize.
We could also, for balance to Floyd's criminal past, look at Chauvin's own record. By all accounts, he wasn't a 'good cop' and was known for being heavy handed, and generally being a prick. With this in mind, his behaviour with the belligerent Floyd seems pretty typical. It doesn't justify his actions, but it points to it being 'normal' for him rather than some sort of racially motivated attack.
If this whole thing was down to 'racist cops', then why were Chauvin and his partners so courteous, polite and calm with the other two black individual who were in the car with Floyd? Why weren't they subjected to this apparently horrendous racist abuse from this apparently horrendously racist abuser?
Furthermore, only one of the cops was white; the others were of other races, and I thought it was only white people who could be racist nowadays...
Now, we have elected officials and media outlets holding up a career criminal, drug addict scumfuck as a martyr. It's insane. Look at NYC and DeBlasio right now: He isn't allowing the 9/11 memorial, but he'll let a bunch of commie trash and trust fund tankies storm the streets, and all in honour of a criminal who did
nothing for his fellow man.
There are so many glaring inconsistencies in the reality of the story, but we are all being lied to by media. This isn't a conspiracy or some wild theory; it's something you can see every single day. The double-standards are glaringly obvious and if you're unable to see that, then you're likely too absorbed in your reality tunnel and will continue to believe what you're told for the sake of a simple life.
If you want a good, recent example of the double-standards in media, and in particular with regards to race then look at the story of a five-year old white child called Cannon Hinnant. Shot in the head at point blank range by his black neighbour for, apparently, no reason whatsoever. None of the big media outlets covered this until around 48 hours later. If the races were reversed, there would have been non-stop coverage. Why was a story like this not front page news for every single outlet? Why did only so-called 'right wing media' (i.e. anyone to the left of Stalin) pick it up immediately? Why did black Conservatives, and even the hardcore black guys from prison and gang channels on YouTube talk more about this than CNN?
Does this not strike you as odd? Why did mainstream, liberal media outlets not have this story at the top of every hour? An innocent child. Murdered by a black man. Switch the races and you'd have a very, very different story happening right now.
What about Tony Timpa? A white guy who, in 2016, was murdered by cops and held on the ground in a similar manner to Floyd for
13 minutes? Where was the media frenzy there? Where were the 'peaceful protests' and burning buildings? Where were the nationwide calls for police reform?
Or how about a friend of mine who was murdered by cops in the UK: Stephen Craigon. Died in custody after the police kicked him to death. The investigation is still ongoing.
How about Daniel Saenz? A deaf,
handcuffed hispanic man who the police shot dead in 2013.
As far as the Floyd case goes, it's going to be almost impossible to make the 1st degree murder charge stick. They would need to prove premeditation and intent, for which no evidence appears to exist. What do you think is going to happen when the case gets thrown out?
We've already seen something like 38 deaths directly related to these riots, and that's not counting the 260% increase in crime in places like Chicago. Do you think these fucking retards will accept the outcome when Chauvin either ends up free, or faces maybe a manslaughter charge at worst?
You ain't seen nothin' yet...sadly.
P.S. To be clear, I fucking loathe and despise racial or identity politics in any form. It doesn't lead anywhere good. I mention race here purely to point out the double-standards involved, and the way in which racial identity is being used to create division. I see more and more white people taking on identitarian beliefs and becoming racially aware, and it's got nothing to do with the boogeyman of the "far right" or "alt-right" or whatever the fuck Buzzfeed is wanking off to nowadays. It's down to BLM. It's down to a media who, for the last several years have been supporting and spouting increasingly anti-white rhetoric, mocking the working class and talking down to anyone outside of their metropolitan media bubble. You think the rise in things like Black Supremacy movements (e.g. Nation of Islam, Black Israeli's, etc) doesn't create an equal and opposite reaction? Think again.
My personal favorite example of Butthurt faggotry is when the guys of Numinous went after the the guy who posted a bad review. It was pretty hilarious.
Or when they deleted Antichrist Kramer's interview on Brooklyn fucking Vegan.
That's happened to me too, before, several times.
Deleted interviews.
It's so cowardly.
Anyway, I don't necessarily play the same role those guys do, but I'm not trying to draw attention to myself.
Those guys are pure misanthropy, unilaterally.
Whereas I blatantly contradict myself, because sowing chaos and confusion is actually worthwhile.
I don't view life as a matter of societal achievement or recognition.
I view life as a means of expressing totality of one's being.
Everything under the sun accounts for what we do in this life.
So living in the wilderness could potentially count more for your DESTINY of purposes, in life as a whole, than mere views on a YouTube page, or anything else.
I digress.
Quote from: Japsi on August 15, 2020, 05:06:05 PM
You ain't seen nothin' yet...sadly.
P.S. To be clear, I fucking loathe and despise racial or identity politics in any form. It doesn't lead anywhere good. I mention race here purely to point out the double-standards involved, and the way in which racial identity is being used to create division. I see more and more white people taking on identitarian beliefs and becoming racially aware, and it's got nothing to do with the boogeyman of the "far right" or "alt-right" or whatever the fuck Buzzfeed is wanking off to nowadays. It's down to BLM. It's down to a media who, for the last several years have been supporting and spouting increasingly anti-white rhetoric, mocking the working class and talking down to anyone outside of their metropolitan media bubble. You think the rise in things like Black Supremacy movements (e.g. Nation of Islam, Black Israeli's, etc) doesn't create an equal and opposite reaction? Think again.
Haha, you're a smart guy. Yeah, that's my theory too: that ACTUAL Nazi politics are on the rise. And yeah, it's a consequence of most people despising the narrative. It is what it is.
"You think the rise in things like Black Supremacy movements (e.g. Nation of Islam, Black Israeli's, etc) doesn't create an equal and opposite reaction? Think again."
Throughout history...not just US history...there's been a reaction to majority shifts. It's nature. It's primal. Both the shift and the resistance to the shift. People don't readily hand over their power without force. I don't mean physical force, though that was the predominant way for most of human existence. Now that we're in a time of proliferating peace (as in non-physical war), that push and pull is cultural and political. Now, one of the more successful ways to skirt that shift is to constantly move the goal posts. You could have bet all the money you had, have, and will have that there was going to be a reaction to the Obama era. On some level, it was a minority push. The majority reacted. In nature, it stems from survival and fear, so that part of this is confusing to me. Nobody is threatening the survival of the majority as it becomes less so. That's beside my point. I find it suspect that anytime a minority group establishes some of its own power and looks to shift the balance, if for no other reason than the natural tendency for any being to be less dominated, and then the majority group takes offense to it and justifies a reaction to that minority action. It isn't all that different than the bully finally getting smacked back and then losing their shit because their power gets challenged. So in this context, and throughout US history, every time minorities take a little more ground, there is this reaction to it. My point mostly being that they're every bit as justified in nature to take that ground as the majority reaction to it. In the end, though, there will indeed be a shift, and in a time like we're living, the present majority will be on the losing end.
Sorry for the rant. That type of sentence irritates me a lot. It reads, at least to me, like a "How dare they? We'll teach 'em." While I was never bullied, watching them in action always disgusted me.
Quote from: Zeno Marx on August 15, 2020, 11:25:31 PM
"You think the rise in things like Black Supremacy movements (e.g. Nation of Islam, Black Israeli's, etc) doesn't create an equal and opposite reaction? Think again."
Throughout history...not just US history...there's been a reaction to majority shifts. It's nature. It's primal. Both the shift and the resistance to the shift. People don't readily hand over their power without force. I don't mean physical force, though that was the predominant way for most of human existence. Now that we're in a time of proliferating peace (as in non-physical war), that push and pull is cultural and political. Now, one of the more successful ways to skirt that shift is to constantly move the goal posts. You could have bet all the money you had, have, and will have that there was going to be a reaction to the Obama era. On some level, it was a minority push. The majority reacted. In nature, it stems from survival and fear, so that part of this is confusing to me. Nobody is threatening the survival of the majority as it becomes less so. That's beside my point. I find it suspect that anytime a minority group establishes some of its own power and looks to shift the balance, if for no other reason than the natural tendency for any being to be less dominated, and then the majority group takes offense to it and justifies a reaction to that minority action. It isn't all that different than the bully finally getting smacked back and then losing their shit because their power gets challenged. So in this context, and throughout US history, every time minorities take a little more ground, there is this reaction to it. My point mostly being that they're every bit as justified in nature to take that ground as the majority reaction to it. In the end, though, there will indeed be a shift, and in a time like we're living, the present majority will be on the losing end.
Sorry for the rant. That type of sentence irritates me a lot. It reads, at least to me, like a "How dare they? We'll teach 'em." While I was never bullied, watching them in action always disgusted me.
I know I am an extreme dick, and I try to afford people common courtesy and respect.
Problem is, sometimes human nature is just cunty and evil. I've been in and out of mental institutions and prison. And I've lived off the grid.
People are literally dicks for no reason.
I'll treat you with respect, for example, and everything is fine.
But I don't believe in any social justice or any slight ponsibility of GOOD in this world at ALL.
I try to be civil with people; and some people, usually those who have LEARNED tough life lessons, will be respectable individuals.
The multitude, however, are cunty, for no good reason either.
So, I unfortunately do not share the same attitude as you.
People only respect POWER. And they have an unconscious need to worship someone or something.
I don't care if I'm liked. Very, very very few people are actually intelligent. They literally demonstrate that on a daily basis.
That's my cold, asshole opinion.
Quote from: Cementimental on August 14, 2020, 04:49:49 PM
yeah he just hallucinated the cop kneeling on his neck for 9 minutes
I suppose so.
I wont quote the excellent Japsi post above, but its the kind of thing precisely lacking in the contemporary media, that is an attempt to portray the truth of the news, rather than make and provoke the news. My opinion is perhaps contemporary media people no longer have worked through local news, weddings etc., or been message boys, but are graduates of university media schools...
"People only respect POWER. And they have an unconscious need to worship someone or something."
Maybe, but in the UK recently we had the famous referendum in which all political parties, trade unions and industry campaigned for remain. Leavers were painted as old, bigoted uneducated racists. Economists and ministers said on a leave vote the UK economy would crash, hospitals would run out of drugs, there would be food shortages and massive unemployment. OK you can criticise the leave campaign. But "people" voted leave. One reason given was to punish the establishment, in particular for its ignoring the "people". People allow power structures so they can get on with life, - Hobbes.
"I don't care if I'm liked. Very, very very few people are actually intelligent. They literally demonstrate that on a daily basis."
It's not about intelligence IMO, its about instinct And people are quite good at that, maybe that is a mistake the media make and those using spreadsheets. The Herd may 'seem' unintelligent, and no doubt Nietzsche was smart. The herd survived, he went mad. People seem to just want to get on with their lives, not conquer the world. Again the herd just chewing the grass, but when provoked it acts with maybe an ignorant response, but nevertheless devastating result.
I'll give a final example, the Famous Lady Diana death. From outside the UK it might seem a nation mourned. It was not the case, at first hand.
"I'm saying humans shouldn't be total naive dumb asses, and I'm genuinely surprised people act as of they were born yesterday."
I think they just don't want the be "the overman", great artist, dictator etc. cant be bothered with 'the novels of Wordsworth' or quantum mechanics, or Deleuze et al. The English read the first few pages of a Brief History of Time, the French do similar with What is Philosophy...
"Unfortunately, most humans are apathetic dumb ass slaves to a corrupted sick society. Such is always exploited using social policing as it's main control method. "
But not in places like North Korea. Even if true, it falls victim to the Master Slave narrative. Or the fox and the dog conversation.
plus
' a live dog is better off than a dead lion. '.
and
"All is vanity"
Quote from: JLIAT on August 16, 2020, 11:20:49 AM
I think they just don't want the be "the overman", great artist, dictator etc. cant be bothered with 'the novels of Wordsworth' or quantum mechanics, or Deleuze et al. The English read the first few pages of a Brief History of Time, the French do similar with What is Philosophy...
"Unfortunately, most humans are apathetic dumb ass slaves to a corrupted sick society. Such is always exploited using social policing as it's main control method. "
But not in places like North Korea. Even if true, it falls victim to the Master Slave narrative. Or the fox and the dog conversation.
plus
' a live dog is better off than a dead lion. '.
and
"All is vanity"
You know what, that's actually spot-on. My personal honour code (and it almost seems funny saying that, given how one defines virtue in the 21st-century) is very strong. I always have to force myself out of my comfort zone, sometimes in a very backwards way. I'd love to write a book on just what I'm talking about, but it'd be too out there, it'd be pointless.
I always liked music interviews for a better medium of this kind of discussion. Or talking personally with a respected confidante.
But yeah, what I'm getting at, is like I'm almost possessed by this strong-willed desire to choose the tougher path, in a way that ultimately builds my character.
It influences every part of my life, creative and mundane.
I understand, that most people settle for a more predictable routine. I see every situation as an opportunity to get stronger.
So, in short, it makes all of my behavior pretty extreme: whether extremely noble, or extremely psychotic.
You can learn a lot about yourself with the fights you get into.
I honestly try to avoid fights with people, but I'm terrible at it, because online and offline, my life is constant action. I make sure to voice my opinion in all circumstances, that way preventing oneself from being a mere keyboard warrior.
Almost got into a fist fight just yesterday.
I've been shot at, in more than 50 fist fights, and too many close-calls with death to count.
I don't say this act tough or whatever; for me it's a consequence of having an inhuman drive: it's not gonna be a smooth road, no matter HOW refined one's manners are.
I figure, we are born in this hell-hole, with no direct choice. One must aim for the highest ideal; everything else seems less than satisfactory: a wasted life.
Quote from: AnonMessAgeSage on August 18, 2020, 03:22:37 AM
I figure, we are born in this hell-hole, with no direct choice. One must aim for the highest ideal; everything else seems less than satisfactory: a wasted life.
You value life too much. You will be disappointed. Highest ideal, is ? Define 'wasted' . We are all nothing but wasted. Embrace it. Do nothing. Live like you dont exist. Noone will stop their life once you are gone. Noone will remember you -not even as a name- after short period of time. That said, everyone has his own windmills to fight against, just to spend his time, it's OK. Dont think you do more than that. - Sample session free. Next $50.
Quote from: Theodore on August 19, 2020, 02:27:47 AM
Quote from: AnonMessAgeSage on August 18, 2020, 03:22:37 AM
I figure, we are born in this hell-hole, with no direct choice. One must aim for the highest ideal; everything else seems less than satisfactory: a wasted life.
You value life too much. You will be disappointed. Highest ideal, is ? Define 'wasted' . We are all nothing but wasted. Embrace it. Do nothing. Live like you dont exist. Noone will stop their life once you are gone. Noone will remember you -not even as a name- after short period of time. That said, everyone has his own windmills to fight against, just to spend his time, it's OK. Dont think you do more than that. - Sample session free. Next $50.
I wasn't looking for advice. I value MY life, how selfish of me. I was born to do some godly fucking shit. Not the Christ kind of shit.
More like, enjoy fucking life to its fullest, go balls to the fucking wall, no matter how hopeless the world is.
You can do what you want, but I'm not seeking validation for my existence.
I don't really give a fuck.
I love him whose soul is so overfull that he forgetteth himself, and all
things are in him: thus all things become his down-going.
I love him who is of a free spirit and a free heart: thus is his
head only the bowels of his heart; his heart, however, causeth his
down-going.
I love all who are like heavy drops falling one by one out of the dark
cloud that lowereth over man: they herald the coming of the lightning,
and succumb as heralds.
Lo, I am a herald of the lightning, and a heavy drop out of the cloud:
the lightning, however, is the SUPERMAN.--
When Zarathustra had spoken these words, he again looked at the people,
and was silent. "There they stand," said he to his heart; "there they
laugh: they understand me not; I am not the mouth for these ears.
...
They dislike, therefore, to hear of 'contempt' of themselves. So I will
appeal to their pride.
....
Alas! there cometh the time when man will no longer launch the arrow of
his longing beyond man--and the string of his bow will have unlearned to
whizz!
I tell you: one must still have chaos in one, to give birth to a dancing
star. I tell you: ye have still chaos in you.
Alas! There cometh the time when man will no longer give birth to any
star. Alas! There cometh the time of the most despicable man, who can no
longer despise himself.
Lo! I show you THE LAST MAN.
"What is love? What is creation? What is longing? What is a star?"--so
asketh the last man and blinketh.
The earth hath then become small, and on it there hoppeth the last man
who maketh everything small. His species is ineradicable like that of
the ground-flea; the last man liveth longest.
"We have discovered happiness"--say the last men, and blink thereby.
They have left the regions where it is hard to live; for they need
warmth. One still loveth one's neighbour and rubbeth against him; for
one needeth warmth.
Turning ill and being distrustful, they consider sinful: they walk
warily. He is a fool who still stumbleth over stones or men!
A little poison now and then: that maketh pleasant dreams. And much
poison at last for a pleasant death.
One still worketh, for work is a pastime. But one is careful lest the
pastime should hurt one.
One no longer becometh poor or rich; both are too burdensome. Who still
wanteth to rule? Who still wanteth to obey? Both are too burdensome.
No shepherd, and one herd! Every one wanteth the same; every one is
equal: he who hath other sentiments goeth voluntarily into the madhouse.
"Formerly all the world was insane,"--say the subtlest of them, and
blink thereby.
They are clever and know all that hath happened: so there is
no end to their raillery. People still fall out, but are soon
reconciled--otherwise it spoileth their stomachs.
They have their little pleasures for the day, and their little pleasures
for the night, but they have a regard for health.
"We have discovered happiness,"--say the last men, and blink thereby.--
...
at this point the shouting and mirth of the
multitude interrupted him. "Give us this last man, O Zarathustra,"--they
called out--"make us into these last men! Then will we make thee a
present of the Superman!" And all the people exulted and smacked their
lips. Zarathustra, however, turned sad, and said to his heart:
"They understand me not: I am not the mouth for these ears."
Quote from: AnonMessAgeSage on August 18, 2020, 03:22:37 AM
So, in short, it makes all of my behavior pretty extreme: whether extremely noble, or extremely psychotic.
You can learn a lot about yourself with the fights you get into.
or not get into
Quote from: AnonMessAgeSage on August 18, 2020, 03:22:37 AM
I honestly try to avoid fights with people, but I'm terrible at it, because online and offline, my life is constant action. I make sure to voice my opinion in all circumstances, that way preventing oneself from being a mere keyboard warrior.
Almost got into a fist fight just yesterday.
I've been shot at, in more than 50 fist fights, and too many close-calls with death to count.
I don't say this act tough or whatever; for me it's a consequence of having an inhuman drive: it's not gonna be a smooth road, no matter HOW refined one's manners are.
This reminded me of a guy I knew by proxy. A friend of a friend. We couldn't go anywhere without the likeliness of a fight, or at least a physical altercation or an act of intimidation, as if nature was always requiring a conflict. For instance, we'd stop for gasoline. I'd go inside to pay, and within that 30 seconds, I'd walk out the door and to the car, only to find he was in someone's face because he somehow took it as a personal assault how person X was washing their windows too close to him, or person Y had grabbed the hose handle within 15 feet of him without saying "excuse me", or just about any unimaginable, unpredictable thing that required him to challenge someone else. He had 40 reasons, and another 40 justifications, as to why he was like this. When you were around him, the air was always tense and stressful. On top of all this, he also had this unreasonable penchant for loyalty, so while he was constantly creating situations for battle, he also expected you to take up the cause and fight along with him. As if his twisted sense of reality was somehow going to become the responsibility of everyone else; the people with him and the people who just might unfortunately cross his path. He thought of himself as strongly independent, but in truth, he was co-dependent and demanded everyone else to suffer along with him. Quite intrusive. It's been quite a while since I thought of him.
Quote from: Cementimental on August 14, 2020, 04:49:49 PM
yeah he just hallucinated the cop kneeling on his neck for 9 minutes
Hey I'm on your side but going for revenge rather than looking at the real issue isn't helping anyone. Sure the knee-in-neck when the man needed help wasn't the best that could be done and they could have offered CPR earlier, but Floyd was also acting unpredictable and unmanageable at that point, and with a guy of his posture and strength you don't want to mess around. Or should they have offered a lollypop and a pet on the back? They are police officers for fuck sake, not therapists or nannies.
I don't have much else to say about it. Racism is obviously bad, but if you want to straighten things up over there there is a very long road ahead of you. Fixing the economy, drug crisis, homeless epidemic, mental health issues, have affordable public health and forgo for-profit prisons will do more good than any protest will. Also as long as BLM and ANTIFA are the 'front for justice' it will only incite anger from both sides. Good for the news outlets and twitter fanatics, but as long as there isn't any real political power, it's just public display and little is going to change. Anyway, I just stay here and watch how the US is dealing with their shit. Gotta love those public freakout videos though. USA! USA!
Quote from: W.K. on August 20, 2020, 02:34:47 AM
Sure the knee-in-neck when the man needed help wasn't the best that could be done
this message right here
Quote from: Zeno Marx on August 19, 2020, 10:12:56 PM
Quote from: AnonMessAgeSage on August 18, 2020, 03:22:37 AM
So, in short, it makes all of my behavior pretty extreme: whether extremely noble, or extremely psychotic.
You can learn a lot about yourself with the fights you get into.
or not get into
Quote from: AnonMessAgeSage on August 18, 2020, 03:22:37 AM
I honestly try to avoid fights with people, but I'm terrible at it, because online and offline, my life is constant action. I make sure to voice my opinion in all circumstances, that way preventing oneself from being a mere keyboard warrior.
Almost got into a fist fight just yesterday.
I've been shot at, in more than 50 fist fights, and too many close-calls with death to count.
I don't say this act tough or whatever; for me it's a consequence of having an inhuman drive: it's not gonna be a smooth road, no matter HOW refined one's manners are.
This reminded me of a guy I knew by proxy. A friend of a friend. We couldn't go anywhere without the likeliness of a fight, or at least a physical altercation or an act of intimidation, as if nature was always requiring a conflict. For instance, we'd stop for gasoline. I'd go inside to pay, and within that 30 seconds, I'd walk out the door and to the car, only to find he was in someone's face because he somehow took it as a personal assault how person X was washing their windows too close to him, or person Y had grabbed the hose handle within 15 feet of him without saying "excuse me", or just about any unimaginable, unpredictable thing that required him to challenge someone else. He had 40 reasons, and another 40 justifications, as to why he was like this. When you were around him, the air was always tense and stressful. On top of all this, he also had this unreasonable penchant for loyalty, so while he was constantly creating situations for battle, he also expected you to take up the cause and fight along with him. As if his twisted sense of reality was somehow going to become the responsibility of everyone else; the people with him and the people who just might unfortunately cross his path. He thought of himself as strongly independent, but in truth, he was co-dependent and demanded everyone else to suffer along with him. Quite intrusive. It's been quite a while since I thought of him.
Life is hell. You're not as free as you think you are. Get up and go to Antarctica. Right now.
We just respond to it in different ways.
And honestly, that guy sounds hilarious. But still, there's quite a big difference between me and him.
I highly doubt that dumb ass was motivated by one's higher potential.
If you are motivated for higher potential, expect lots of confrontation.
People are fucking assholes. You are too. Everyone is trying to control you at all moments in your life. Very rarely will you come across someone like me who spells out the game for you. And it IS a game. There are tons of checks and balances in this world to keep you in line.
You either fight against them, or accept them.
That simple.
In short, it's no different than the psychos in extreme music. It's something you're interested in, or else you wouldn't be on a forum dedicated to insane music made by questionable characters.
Quote from: W.K. on August 20, 2020, 02:34:47 AM
Quote from: Cementimental on August 14, 2020, 04:49:49 PM
yeah he just hallucinated the cop kneeling on his neck for 9 minutes
Hey I'm on your side but going for revenge rather than looking at the real issue isn't helping anyone. Sure the knee-in-neck when the man needed help wasn't the best that could be done and they could have offered CPR earlier, but Floyd was also acting unpredictable and unmanageable at that point, and with a guy of his posture and strength you don't want to mess around. Or should they have offered a lollypop and a pet on the back? They are police officers for fuck sake, not therapists or nannies.
I don't have much else to say about it. Racism is obviously bad, but if you want to straighten things up over there there is a very long road ahead of you. Fixing the economy, drug crisis, homeless epidemic, mental health issues, have affordable public health and forgo for-profit prisons will do more good than any protest will. Also as long as BLM and ANTIFA are the 'front for justice' it will only incite anger from both sides. Good for the news outlets and twitter fanatics, but as long as there isn't any real political power, it's just public display and little is going to change. Anyway, I just stay here and watch how the US is dealing with their shit. Gotta love those public freakout videos though. USA! USA!
I'm American, but national pride never made sense to me.
Literally, I just want to live in a fucking cave at this point. So utterly sick of human civilization; I won't even pretend to give a shit.
Quote from: AnonMessAgeSage on August 20, 2020, 09:27:04 PM
I'm American, but national pride never made sense to me.
In general,
pride is a shit disease.
Quote from: Zeno Marx on August 20, 2020, 10:14:38 PM
Quote from: AnonMessAgeSage on August 20, 2020, 09:27:04 PM
I'm American, but national pride never made sense to me.
In general, pride is a shit disease.
I agree, and disagree.
It depends how one defines a term such as that.
My point, simply, was that we are born as fucking SLAVES in this world. Not necessarily chattel slaves, but debt slaves. Most people can not just go or do anything at any time.
So, I could never delude myself that life was anything other than what it was.
And I am fucking pissed.
In short, pride is like the FREEDOM. Freedom has become a fucking American slogan; it doesn't mean anything any more. It's like "Just do it," or "I'm loving it."
IN ACTUAL FACT, true freedom, not the slogan, is all I fucking care about.
And I highly doubt that idiot you mentioned, was thinking like this.
Quote from: AnonMessAgeSage on August 21, 2020, 12:31:02 AM
And I highly doubt that idiot you mentioned, was thinking like this.
I bet he wasnt. He probably was just following his impulses without making up bullshit 'ideology' to excuse him.
"I am on a mission. Not like christ's. True freedom. I value my life but i go against the wall to save humanity from slavery etc." - Continuously ... - Get a doctor. Or talk to someone who loves you, not in forums. Cause at the end, 'they are watching us' , muhaha. You dont want your mission fail cause of your forum posts.
Quote from: Theodore on August 21, 2020, 02:13:47 AM
Quote from: AnonMessAgeSage on August 21, 2020, 12:31:02 AM
And I highly doubt that idiot you mentioned, was thinking like this.
I bet he wasnt. He probably was just following his impulses without making up bullshit 'ideology' to excuse him.
"I am on a mission. Not like christ's. True freedom. I value my life but i go against the wall to save humanity from slavery etc." - Continuously ... - Get a doctor. Or talk to someone who loves you, not in forums. Cause at the end, 'they are watching us' , muhaha. You dont want your mission fail cause of your forum posts.
Save humanity? Why would I care about such a fucking thing?
What you said is absolutely fucking ridiculous and of a fear-based mentality.
People always deny "The Illuminati" (misnomer) like one just screamed NIGGER in a Baptist Church. It's the giant pink elephant in the room everyone sheepishly tip toes around for PERCEIVED (whether real or not social brownie points.)
I have tons of self-love, so go fuck yourself. Obviously I do, or I wouldn't have such a strong will. Unlike you. You fucking cretin.
YOU, Theredore, don't understand the first thing about human psychology, so in order to cope with your own inferiority, you must deliberately take someone out of context, for as simply mentioning their strong will.
You see, CHRIST wanted to appeal to people like you. I, through my learned life, know that, truly, such a feat is impossible, and a total waste of time. I wouldn't care if you, liked me, hated me, or if you even liked me.
Christ was a softie. Christ would've been jumped on to whatever mainstream hashtag was trending. You are, Christ, Theo. Have you even read the Bible, you buffoon? If you read the Bible, in other languages, you'd be HORRIFIED at what it actually says. The original language gets lost through multiple translations into an profane, mundane language, like English.
Because your kind where never even supposed to read it. Fact.
I have. In Ancient Greek, Latin, AND English.
They deny it as conspiracy, but then the same stupid people make these same arguments, sheepishly giving lip service to MEN.
My allegiance is to the dark Occultic spirits that govern the world. So your sheepish fear-mongering doesn't work on me. You just seem like a coward to me.
I don't care about the human species. I only respect the intelligent, and the bold, among men.
NEWSFLASH: Your slave mentality is your own doing.
And that's why you're a slave.
Fuck love, and fuck Christ.
You're way more of a Christian slave mentality than I'll ever be.
Quote from: AnonMessAgeSage on August 21, 2020, 02:24:47 AM
Save humanity? Why would I care about such a fucking thing?
True freedom only for yourself then. Fine ! Why do we have to know then ? Why do you feel the need to share the knowledge to freedom ?
Sorry to shock you. I am Greek ! Do you speak greek ? - I havent read the bible. I dont care about jewish history / legends / religion / 'knowledge' . Sorry.
Quote from: Theodore on August 21, 2020, 03:03:52 AM
Quote from: AnonMessAgeSage on August 21, 2020, 02:24:47 AM
Save humanity? Why would I care about such a fucking thing?
True freedom only for yourself then. Fine ! Why do we have to know then ? Why do you feel the need to share the knowledge to freedom ?
Sorry to shock you. I am Greek ! Do you speak greek ? - I havent read the bible. I dont care about jewish history / legends / religion / 'knowledge' . Sorry.
Read it in KOINE, Latin, and Ancient Hebrew.
Then get back to me.
Might as well learn Arabic while you're at it.
To answer your question (which you don't even deserve), is because it separates the wheat from the chaff.
The weak will believe what they want anyway, and the wise will seek it out.
Since you read it in koine and you understood its 'deeper' meanings i am sure you are capable to speak the language too. Right ? Go ahead, reply me in koine greek, your next rant in my language please.
Quote from: Theodore on August 21, 2020, 03:36:33 AM
Since you read it in koine and you understood its 'deeper' meanings i am sure you are capable to speak the language too. Right ? Go ahead, reply me in koine greek, your next rant in my language please.
ερρε ες κορακας.
Go fuck yourself, you fucking scum. Even speaking to someone in French is annoying as fuck, so go to fucking hell, you subhuman.
άδης.
Learn ALL languages, dumb fuck.
Quote from: AnonMessAgeSage on August 21, 2020, 03:56:51 AM
Quote from: Theodore on August 21, 2020, 03:36:33 AM
Since you read it in koine and you understood its 'deeper' meanings i am sure you are capable to speak the language too. Right ? Go ahead, reply me in koine greek, your next rant in my language please.
ερρε ες κορακας.
Go fuck yourself, you fucking scum. Even speaking to someone in French is annoying as fuck, so go to fucking hell, you subhuman.
άδης.
A honest or a smart guy would say i dont have the language fonts and i wont waste my time to set them. But you are so dumb ! LOL
Bye, thanks for the fun.
Quote from: Theodore on August 21, 2020, 04:04:53 AM
Quote from: AnonMessAgeSage on August 21, 2020, 03:56:51 AM
Quote from: Theodore on August 21, 2020, 03:36:33 AM
Since you read it in koine and you understood its 'deeper' meanings i am sure you are capable to speak the language too. Right ? Go ahead, reply me in koine greek, your next rant in my language please.
ερρε ες κορακας.
Go fuck yourself, you fucking scum. Even speaking to someone in French is annoying as fuck, so go to fucking hell, you subhuman.
άδης.
A honest or a smart guy would say i dont have the language fonts and i wont waste my time to set them. But you are so dumb ! LOL
Bye, thanks for the fun.
Good, go, you dumb as fuck buffoon. Go crawl back up your mommy's cunt.
It should GO WITHOUT SAYING, I don't have the fonts.
I still know Koine. So what's your fucking point?
And it's obvious you are just looking for me to reply to you, which I already knew, because it's obvious you have an inferior slave conditioning.
Whatever helps you sleep at night, peasant.
What the hell happened to this forum in recent weeks/months??!! My daily check in to look for actual news and information has become tedious as fuck with all this constant shit-posting.
Quote from: re:evolution on August 21, 2020, 05:26:16 AM
What the hell happened to this forum in recent weeks/months??!! My daily check in to look for actual news and information has become tedious as fuck with all this constant shit-posting.
Indeed. The quality level has take a nosedive. I've noticed many long-time regulars post less & less. A pity.
If looking at MAIN section, I guess first page is pretty regular. Same goes for the advertizement section.
Even this section is pretty much the "same", except the non-stop popularity of couple topics barely related to noise or industrial culture, is taking a lot of attention.
I have considered few options. One being easiest:
-People learn: NOT TO READ.
Ignoring even annoying message without reacting on it, is possible.
However, 2nd option would be very easy also to: DELETE.
To remove stuff which has no reason to be there and serves no other purpose than guys regurgitating same old over and over again, with little to do with noise.
Third option, open "MISC TALK" section, which most likely soon equals "GARBAGE SECTION". While this in theory would be doable, just matter of few clicks, it changes the nature of forum. Whether you'd tell people to stay away, unless they can handle it, it would still be something forum is known of. The place where people mostly talk useless shit. Even if it would be tiny restricted area of forum.
Fourth, taking slightly more active mode: Lock the derailing and nonsense topics. Kick out the repeated offenders, who simply do not get the very very simple rules of forum?
"No nonsense. Less drama more noise."
If you don't come here to post about noise, and noise related, then politely just fuck off somewhere else. Whole internet is out there for any types of "misc bullshit". That's about it.
So I guess, with recommendations of various users, less used fourth category will be activated in use for a while. Topics may be re-opened if there is reason.