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Title: Gear used on classic PE recordings
Post by: 13 on November 29, 2014, 04:29:26 PM
There's recently been a trend to publicize lists of the gear used on classic Techno/EBM recordings, including those of Skinny Puppy and Front 242. Has this ever been done with any of the classic PE artists like Whitehouse and MB? I'd love to know what synths and outboard gear they used. 
Title: Re: Gear used on classic PE recordings
Post by: Bleak Existence on November 29, 2014, 05:26:00 PM
edp wasp and korg ms synth
Title: Re: Gear used on classic PE recordings
Post by: 13 on November 30, 2014, 04:54:37 PM
That was the primary synths of Whitehouse right?
Title: Re: Gear used on classic PE recordings
Post by: GEWALTMONOPOL on November 30, 2014, 10:38:17 PM
The myth has it that Whitehouse used a broken Wasp. True or not I suspect they also used other gear than that. The MS10 and MS20 features on every German project you can think of. It's easier naming the very few Germans who don't use the MS machines. I can only think of two.
Title: Re: Gear used on classic PE recordings
Post by: tiny_tove on December 01, 2014, 09:59:42 AM
Quote from: GEWALTMONOPOL on November 30, 2014, 10:38:17 PM
The myth has it that Whitehouse used a broken Wasp. True or not I suspect they also used other gear than that. The MS10 and MS20 features on every German project you can think of. It's easier naming the very few Germans who don't use the MS machines. I can only think of two.

apparently is very easy that the wasp was broken since they seemed to break very easily, especially where used live.
the cheap plastic chassis and pots were very very weak apparently.
Title: Re: Gear used on classic PE recordings
Post by: Baglady on December 01, 2014, 11:59:28 AM
Let's not forget the Vox phasers. I believe they were used by pretty much "everyone" back then?

On Cog Dominance from 1986, Putrefier used Korg MS10, Jen SX1000, Ibanez DDL, Vox phaser, Coloursound distortion, a Peavey amp with spring reverb and various metals and mic.
Title: Re: Gear used on classic PE recordings
Post by: tiny_tove on December 01, 2014, 04:38:16 PM
Chris Carter on WASP synth http://throbbing-gristle.com/CHRISCARTER/content/sos/edp_wasp.html
Title: Re: Gear used on classic PE recordings
Post by: GEWALTMONOPOL on December 01, 2014, 11:35:09 PM
I have no problem believing that the Wasp was broken since it's widely considered to be a cheap piece of shit but I doubt it was the only thing they used. Considering how absolutely kick ass brutal their sound was back then it's safe to assume they used other better bits of equipment as well. Either way...boring.

How about the number of bands that used the MS10? Anenzephalia and GO in the early days at least. Bar the samples it was more or less the exclusive machine for Altamont Rising. Same for recent STAB and ZSS recordings. I believe Taint/Mania used one for a long time as do STROM.ec. I own a ton of gear now but the MS10 continues to hold a very special place.
Title: Re: Gear used on classic PE recordings
Post by: FreakAnimalFinland on December 02, 2014, 09:09:31 AM
Especially MS-20 is great. It can be used for "known PE sounds", but much much... much further than that. Complexity of it isn't like modular, but still, almost endless possibilities and endless learning process what exactly does what and why.  I think many other synths you learn way easier.
Title: Re: Gear used on classic PE recordings
Post by: tiny_tove on December 02, 2014, 10:29:47 AM
MS20 is my fave piece of gear.
Classing droning sound, very rich  of features, not to mention endless filter possibilities.
Title: Re: Gear used on classic PE recordings
Post by: GEWALTMONOPOL on December 02, 2014, 11:49:00 AM
No question of the MS20 being superior in terms of ability and complexity but for earsplitting rawness the MS10 is hard to beat.

I expect many of the coming classics over the next 5-10 years will feature the MS20 Mini.
Title: Re: Gear used on classic PE recordings
Post by: tiny_tove on December 02, 2014, 12:30:51 PM
I second that!

don't know if I will ever do a classic, but got my hand on the min as soon it was out and worth every penny...
Title: Re: Gear used on classic PE recordings
Post by: E.D.K.W.A.R. on December 12, 2014, 10:08:20 PM
I've always wondered what kind of gear Marco Corbelli used to get such ghastly sounds. Most pictures/video dont give a very clear view....any clues?
Title: Re: Gear used on classic PE recordings
Post by: cosmonaut on December 12, 2014, 10:13:31 PM
Most sounds came from a crumar synth. Rare Italian machine. And probably one of the best fixed architecture monosynths ever made.
Title: Re: Gear used on classic PE recordings
Post by: online prowler on December 13, 2014, 04:11:35 PM
Quote from: cosmonaut on December 12, 2014, 10:13:31 PM
Most sounds came from a crumar synth. Rare Italian machine. And probably one of the best fixed architecture monosynths ever made.

CRUMAR. Ace synth. Very rare to get hold of these. Was looking for a specific type last time I was dwn there, but without luck. Search on youtube for samples.
Title: Re: Gear used on classic PE recordings
Post by: Cold Sharp Knives on December 13, 2014, 07:06:49 PM
Crumar Spirits:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Crumar-Spirit-Vintage-Analog-Synth-Synthesizer-CLEAN-SERVICED-/291236034780?pt=Keyboards_MIDI&hash=item43cf0538dc
Title: Re: Gear used on classic PE recordings
Post by: Pax Chetyorka on December 27, 2014, 03:55:19 AM
Quote from: GEWALTMONOPOL on November 30, 2014, 10:38:17 PM
The myth has it that Whitehouse used a broken Wasp. True or not I suspect they also used other gear than that.
Total Sex has a gear list:

"Equipment used:
2 EDP Wasp Synthesizers
ElectroHarmonix Memory Man
ElectroHarmonix Flanger
Tone Generator"
Title: Re: Gear used on classic PE recordings
Post by: sick on August 29, 2015, 09:34:55 PM
Brighter Death Now "INNERWAR"(CD )
Technical Data: Fostex X-15,Yamaha EMP-100,Yamaha Flanger FL-01,BOSS Dr Rhythm DR55, Tokai Analog Delay,Tapes And Vocals

Atrax Morgue "Cut My Throat" CD (Not a classic release but certainly a classic artists and I'm pretty sure he used this set up on most recordings"

CRUMAR SPIRIT analogue synthesizer and Yamaha multi-effect(I'm guessing he used an SPX-90 because I used to get those weird panning sounds that are on some of his vocals out of it before mine broke)

Title: Re: Gear used on classic PE recordings
Post by: softmachine on September 15, 2015, 01:48:35 PM
Quote from: tiny_tove on December 01, 2014, 04:38:16 PM
Chris Carter on WASP synth http://throbbing-gristle.com/CHRISCARTER/content/sos/edp_wasp.html

that's a brilliant article

love the idea of the performer falling arse over tit, sending the 'flying WASp (still droning)' into the crowd *lol

mouth-watering stuff... i can only dream about finding that in a car-boot sale!
Title: Re: Gear used on classic PE recordings
Post by: SUBKLINIK on October 31, 2015, 10:20:17 PM
Marco did indeed use then Crumar Spirit. I believe he also told me once he had one of the Siel synths, which makes sense as they morphed from an Italian company that I forget the name of.
Title: Re: Gear used on classic PE recordings
Post by: PSYWAR LTD on June 25, 2022, 12:18:54 PM
Just listening to Atrax Morgue regularly as of late, is there any modern equivalent to the Crumar Spirit?

Title: Re: Gear used on classic PE recordings
Post by: U235 on July 02, 2022, 02:36:22 AM
I am very surprised about Atrax Morgue. I was sure that Corbelli was using a Six-Trak. But then, I also read somewhere that he used... a korg wavestation! If that was really the case, he would have had fun with the programming of the device... But that doesn't really correspond to the sound of Atrax Morgue. On the other hand, what about the Six-Trak, is it true or is it a myth?