Is anyone aware of any interviews with this person/project? I like what very little I've heard, and the description "revisionist power electronics" is quite interesting. Since there's so little information out there, anything helps. Thanks.
All that juicy gossip aside, he's been pretty active the past couple years with playing shows around the Northeast. Don't really have any other information, hopefully some new material surfaces soon.
Recent live video from July, you can't see anything but the sound is pretty good-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxIc5APAc78
Last time I saw him he was in the Baltimore supergroup MECCCA with Crumer, Gene Pick and Trogpite. He is indeed the quiet type and can't imagine there would be a lot of interviews of him, though I think it would interesting if someone did a good one, he has seen a lot.
I don't like the direction he's gone in: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URFt8ceATRs
Did anyone complain about FFH playing KKK songs at Summer Scum?
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on April 24, 2015, 08:31:30 PM
I don't like the direction he's gone in: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URFt8ceATRs
Did anyone complain about FFH playing KKK songs at Summer Scum?
No, surprisingly. People even cheered.
That's awesome.
Would you attribute this to blissful ignorance, or does dude just get a pass from certain people?
I think using Johnny Reb songs in noise is just, you know, ironic.
Could an owner of the LP please post the lyrics for "Hitler Jugend Dagger"? I'm curious about the lyrics as the title is odd & the opening is about a guy with a shotgun.
It's too bad the LP wasn't a larger pressing as it's his best work, so far. I just have a download of it.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on April 24, 2015, 11:11:02 PM
I think using Johnny Reb songs in noise is just, you know, ironic.
Could an owner of the LP please post the lyrics for "Hitler Jugend Dagger"? I'm curious about the lyrics as the title is odd & the opening is about a guy with a shotgun.
It's too bad the LP wasn't a larger pressing as it's his best work, so far. I just have a download of it.
That's a tough one.. Most likely it was executed w a wiiide grin, yea? If not... the use of "hate symbolics" could be understood as showing utter contempt / hatred for the contemporary. Mere speculations here ...
Leci n'est pas une KKK. Je suis FFH.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URFt8ceATRs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URFt8ceATRs) Last FFH album was a bit too popy for me, but I enjoyed the crunchy sub-end electronics. I recommend it to the hardcore fanatics. Very controverisal lyrics on this one. Its about sucking corporate semen while saying no to the man.
Lp needs a repress.
If no one posts the lyrics before I get back into town on Tuesday, I'll post them.
"Make Them Understand" - probably the best PE Hospital ever released, really a great record.
I think all the old tapes are short enough for vinyl re-release....someone should get on that.
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sorry, so huge.
as you can see, the intro really has nothing to do with the lyrics.
agreed on the sentiment of this being the best PE release that hospital has ever touched, aside from a couple of choice re-issues.
i absolutely cannot wait for an LP (2xLP???) re-issue of all of the other material. it has to happen, right?
Oh, I wouldn't say the intro. has nothing to do with the lyrics. Perhaps you meant the title has nothing to do with the lyrics?
Seriously?
No, my perception is the exact opposite of yours. The intro sample is very obviously from modern times and is focusing on someone running from the police.
The lyrics have an old time, militaristic feel. To me, they are like a descriptive "stat sheet" on what could be the owner of the titular hitler youth dagger. Documentation from a file for a rising star in the ranks, if you will.
Sorry, yes, you're right - don't know what I was thinking. The intro sample, of course, has nothing to do w/ the rest of it. I thought you meant the first lines of the lyrics. I was out late last night...
Actually, I always imagine he's on about an I.R.A. quartermaster, or somesuch, in the lyrics - especially considering he had a 7" about the I.R.A., as well. But who knows?!
Quote from: collapsedhole on April 25, 2015, 02:57:55 PM
"Make Them Understand" - probably the best PE Hospital ever released, really a great record.
ive heard "stories" about richard but wasnt there so i wouldnt know.
lol, I guess mikko erased my gossip post detailng the conversation that I had with an acquaintance of dunn's.
I came back to say that using that juicy info, I now know that the song "greenpoint" on prurient's recent "frozen niagra falls" album is about Dunn. What clued me in is that there is a particular line in the song that references some of the details as well as the gentleman that I spoke with.
I guess they aren't good friends anymore.
Was just listening to Make Them Understand yesterday. A damn-near perfect album. There's a remarkably personal touch to it, especially considering that usually this sort of PE indebted to the old school doesn't amount to much more than trite comfort food.
Gotta agree with everyone about the need for reissues/collections of the LP and earlier material, though looking at the very particular quantities in which the original tapes and vinyl came out makes me think he has a thing for keeping things limited.
Symbol To Be Forgotten - what a release. Nobody could ever mistake this for music or for entertainment.
Sound-wise it's signature FFH but does have some new elements to it, and feels like material that he could not have produced at any time other than after the LP.
Familiar use of samples, strained vocals with no histrionics or bombast to them, having all the more impact for how naked and upfront they are. Primitive and palpable noise, no attempts at forcing it to take upon a more structured shape, deliberate avoidance of even the most basic conventional musical rules. Slight elements of musique concrète creeping in, which I don't remember from any other FFH I have heard, and what I think(?) is the use of a modular synth on the first track.
In terms of atmosphere, this might be the most dismal and unforgiving material he has made so far. No catharsis, no PE used as substitute for metal or punk, nothing there to inspire headbanging or fist-pumping, just pure misery. I'm hesitant to say that this is what power electronics should be, but it's close to the ideal.
I'm seeking To Find Men if anyone has a copy, cheers.
New FFH tape came out on No Rent this morning. Looks like it's almost sold out already.
https://norentrecords.bandcamp.com/album/zyklon-and-leather-nrr79
$18 for a tape, which isn't even a special edition...yeah, no thanks
Quote from: DSOL on June 26, 2018, 07:36:49 PM
$18 for a tape, which isn't even a special edition...yeah, no thanks
I mean I guess it came with "trading cards" and a poster. But with shipping to the EU made for a cost of 28 euro for a single tape with 14 minutes of music on it. Gonna have to pass as well
Yeah, the price and shipping to Asia made this a no-go. I don't normally complain about prices, ultimately you either pay it or you don't, but I didn't see anything there to justify the cost, so it seems purely charging because they can. We're talking noise tapes here, not Louis Vuitton handbags.
Definitely agree it was overpriced. Mostly just happy to see new music from this project as it's one of my favorites in PE. Especially love the track 'Redundancy'.
Quote from: vegasfountain on June 27, 2018, 09:34:03 PM
overpriced
I'll just be "that guy" and say that a C16 for $18 before shipping amounts to more than $1 per 1 minute of music, trading cards included or otherwise. Also - trading cards? This is the point where any accusations of being "manchildren" just won't withstand any defense.
OK, I'm gonna eat my previous words and say that now that the reissue without extras is available, I hope I can grab one. After listening on Bandcamp, it's not one to miss.
Hopefully it is acceptable to revive this thread. I just started listening to this project today, and am intrigued by it. Does anyone know of any new interviews that have been conducted with FFH since this thread has last been updated. Also, I suspect that the name FFH is some sort of acronym - any idea what it means?
I think 'For Future Holocausts' was used once. I saw he had a show booked in Philly this month (assuming its canceled now)
Quote from: Eigen Bast on March 16, 2020, 11:19:37 PM
I think 'For Future Holocausts' was used once. I saw he had a show booked in Philly this month (assuming its canceled now)
Interesting. Any idea where that name was used? Also, where are you hearing about his live shows?
The name was used for an unreleased tape on No Rent from 2015, and I found out about the show via an acquaintance that was playing with him. Unfortunately I can't find the flier now! I was surprised to see his name on there - had assumed he wasn't doing much these days.
I listened to Make Them Understand a while ago and was pretty underwhelmed. recently downloaded a lot of digital stuff and that included Zyklon & Leather and Document (both on No Rent). Really enjoyed Zyklon & Leather. Document was boring in my opinion. Z&L prompted me to relisten to Make Them Understand and it was better than I remembered but still not something I see myself listening to a lot. So far FFH has been very hit or miss for me, but I'd like to hear some more stuff if anyone has any suggestions. I know a lot of people really like this project, and I'm trying to give it a chance, but so far it just isn't doing much for me
Quote from: doll on March 17, 2020, 01:02:50 AM
I listened to Make Them Understand a while ago and was pretty underwhelmed. recently downloaded a lot of digital stuff and that included Zyklon & Leather and Document (both on No Rent). Really enjoyed Zyklon & Leather. Document was boring in my opinion. Z&L prompted me to relisten to Make Them Understand and it was better than I remembered but still not something I see myself listening to a lot. So far FFH has been very hit or miss for me, but I'd like to hear some more stuff if anyone has any suggestions. I know a lot of people really like this project, and I'm trying to give it a chance, but so far it just isn't doing much for me
I would recommend 'Symbol To Be Forgotten' and 'To Find Men', both great tapes. I always heard how great 'What's The Difference' is and was pretty let down when I finally tracked down a copy, but a lot of people say that's their favorite of his discography, so maybe check that as well.
Quote from: Seeping Disembowelment on March 17, 2020, 07:23:31 AM
I would recommend 'Symbol To Be Forgotten'
Absolutely. Some of the most intense and vivid atmospheres on a PE release ever. Not to get too Noisextra* about it and imposing my own subjective narrative, but it makes me think of some horribly violent crime resulting from decades of tension happening on a hot summer day in a bad neighbourhood. I think because you have these police scanner samples, but also (what i previously assumed were documentary samples, but actually is Richard) spoken passages about an oppressed people, and samples of a black preacher or protest leader speaking at a rally. Really rousing inspirational words but in this atmosphere of total dread and despair.
*I actually love when Noisextra do that
FFH played the most powerful live set I have ever heard. If you get a chance I recommend to go see them.
Richard Dunn was also a member of Vegas Martyrs and performed as part of Nihilist Assault Group at the No Fun festival in New York (2005.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXVw8no8Y70 (starts at 8:45.)
A favourite of mine. Have to agree Dunn seems to have a knack for creating an actual atmosphere with his tracks, utilizing a limited (and sometimes quite primitive) palette of sounds. Highly unique and effective approach to PE style unlike basically anything I have heard. Honestly, characterizing it as Power Electronics seems a little cheap to me. Make Them Understand, Symbol to be Forgotten and the collaboration with Prurient, Central Park Jogger are all gold-star releases in my opinion, and I think I will pass this afternoon listening to all three of them.
EDIT: I think what I am trying to get at in regards to the 'effectiveness' of a 'limited sound palette' is that he manages to get a breadth and depth out of these elements that others rarely do.
The collaboration with Prurient "Central Park Jogger" is super intense, some of my favorite material from both projects
favorite FFH would be Symbol To Be Forgotten followed by Zyklon And Leather
For those posting about reissues earlier in the thread, I am really not holding my breath on seeing anything from FFH on Hospital reissued in the future, solely based on the two simple facts that A) It hasn't been done yet: There are no Hospital reissues of any FFH material ever, other than the Silenced Whore tape which appears to have been his very first release, and just been a simple case of "oh we should have made more copies a few months ago, here are a few more C-10s in a vinyl clasp case" and that was 15 years ago... B) Richard and Dom seem to not be friends anymore from what I am gathering, not sure they would want to work together again on something like that. I see FFH as a Hospital artist through and through... I know he has put out work on other labels so that might sound dumb but I think about that project as part of the classic Hospital roster. Over 70% of his output is on that label. Reissues would look strange in my eyes on another label without that Dom touch on the art and shit.
That said, I am not the most well versed when it comes to how labels / artists operate in the noise scene where everything is an operation of a much smaller magnitude than say some big label with 80,000 copies of a record. Doesn't some sort of licensing still have to take place? Like where a label has to agree and sign off on different label releasing music that they originally put out? Or does the artist have complete control? Or maybe it varies with each artist-label relationship? Like I said, I don't really have a frame of reference for this stuff when it comes to noise, can anyone offer me any insight?
Make Them Understand is a monolith and I cherish my physical copy dearly. Gonna give it a spin this evening.
Quote from: XXX on March 21, 2020, 08:31:27 PMDoesn't some sort of licensing still have to take place? Like where a label has to agree and sign off on different label releasing music that they originally put out?
Depends on the agreement/contract but usually no.
Quote from: XXX on March 21, 2020, 08:31:27 PMOr does the artist have complete control?
If the copyright is not handed to the label exclusively via agreement/contract, the artist always owns their own material thus having complete control.
He's finally back.
https://norentrecords.bandcamp.com/album/a-step-ahead-nrr156 (https://norentrecords.bandcamp.com/album/a-step-ahead-nrr156)
Quote from: Woundfucker on August 30, 2022, 10:40:17 AM
He's finally back.
https://norentrecords.bandcamp.com/album/a-step-ahead-nrr156 (https://norentrecords.bandcamp.com/album/a-step-ahead-nrr156)
Also this : https://www.discogs.com/release/23019626-Nothing-But-Death-Nothing-But-Death . It is collaboration with Crumer. Have the tape, but havent listened yet, so cant comment on the material.
His set at this year's Summer Scum was one of the highlights of the fest. Great to see some old school PE live on a stage.