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GENERAL VISUAL ART / LITERATURE DISCUSSION => GENERAL VISUAL ART / LITERATURE DISCUSSION => Topic started by: FreakAnimalFinland on December 20, 2009, 07:31:39 PM

Title: CINEMA OF TRANSGRESSION
Post by: FreakAnimalFinland on December 20, 2009, 07:31:39 PM
One of my teen years favorite short movies remains "Thrust in me" (1984). Nick Zedd/Richard Kern, black&white.. 6 mins? It's so perfect, one should not even describe the plot.

I remember when opportinity rose to purchase complete The Underground Film Bulletin -magazine set I was nearly pissing my pants. It's the magazine Zedd used to write under pseudonym between 1984-1990. I wonder if anyone here knows, is the complete set just 9 issues? I see that #9 is dated 1990, but I can't find any reference online for actual amount of zines put out.
In this magazine, Cinema of Transgression Manifesto was first time published. It's so great to see it obsessively typed with non-electric typewriter.. starting with such a grandioso lines a'la "A new movement is born, and it is my destiny to make world aware of its existence".

These golden years are just pure gold. Old VHS compilations, later days DVD's... but when you look where some of these guys made in their career, I can only shake my head in dissappointment...
Title: Re: CINEMA OF TRANSGRESSION
Post by: FreakAnimalFinland on December 20, 2009, 08:31:47 PM
ah, the days of youtube..........
Thrust in me, 8 minutes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wD_pQiQTVms
Title: Re: CINEMA OF TRANSGRESSION
Post by: FreakAnimalFinland on December 20, 2009, 08:36:20 PM
The Right Side of my brain
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wd0IwH8l1PQ&NR=1

and simply proceed from there by yourself.
Some of the good clips are just girls with machineguns for few seconds.
Title: Re: CINEMA OF TRANSGRESSION
Post by: Andrew McIntosh on December 20, 2009, 11:55:31 PM
http://www.ubu.com/film/transgression.html (http://www.ubu.com/film/transgression.html)

You can download and keep these ones too.
Title: Re: CINEMA OF TRANSGRESSION
Post by: XE on December 21, 2009, 12:38:41 AM
Deathtrip films. Got bunch of these from a (vhs)tape trade friend early 90´s. Have to re-watch em. I do remember one scene mom/son phonesex. very nice. "mommy" was getting bored w whole thing "yes yes mommy is here ...yes yes." hah. brilliant.
Title: Re: CINEMA OF TRANSGRESSION
Post by: bitewerksMTB on December 23, 2009, 09:13:55 PM
I remember getting a letter from Richard Kern that was mailed from LA but his addr was NYC. Said he was 'in hiding'.

I had one of Zedd's videos that was horrible. Not sure if it's still packed away. Kern was way better than Zedd's films. I think I sent Mikko one of the Kern dvd's? Nice to see them but they're not as cool now as they were back in the early '90s getting dub's in trade from a biker n' film collector in Kansas (he was a gun nut too).
Title: Re: CINEMA OF TRANSGRESSION
Post by: FreakAnimalFinland on December 23, 2009, 10:20:56 PM
It's possible I got 2xDVD collection from you? Don't remember, it was so long ago. I had my copy about 7  or more years ago. I remember this well, since it's probably my ONLY item ever to get damaged due use of alcohol. Very rare occasion of having some art girls and comic artists over, and I decided to "warm up" with some b/w art films before proceeding to full on beastiality & s/m, eh eh,... in morning I wake up somewhere and find Richard Kern dvd cover marinating in beer & vodka flooding on table.

Not at the films are great. Some are just things to build up atmopshere while others are total success.

There is some "charm" in the mythical late 70's/80's NYC. And these films are basically reason why I have collected about everything from Lydia L what I have been able to find. Who are the charismatic females of 2000's? Thinking of old days, and girls I'd like to read, Lydia, Zeena LaVey, Cosey, hmmm...
Title: Re: CINEMA OF TRANSGRESSION
Post by: bitewerksMTB on December 24, 2009, 01:06:38 AM
I think I have one issue of Zedd's magazine. I still have a *HUGE* pile of exploitation/horror fanzines!

Kern's films are still cool just not rewatchable for me so no reason to have'em anymore. You have to love watching those slutty n' probably junkie women spinning AK47's around on hardwooden floors, right? Some of them have some pretty cool imagery that is completely unmatched today.

Maybe I do need to see'em again...
Title: Re: CINEMA OF TRANSGRESSION
Post by: tiny_tove on January 20, 2010, 09:59:41 PM
Great stuff at the time. I loved the two longer pieces of Kern you mentioned (especially "The right side of my brain" ), but my favurite of all the time is Zedd's "War is menstrual envy" with Kendra Pfhaler playing with tentacles and miss Sprinkle kissing the burnt sod.

A couple of years ago I have talked about it with Annabel Lee (now in Blood Axis) who used to be in Nazi, Bitches and others. Apparently they were living quite wild days indeed.

I remember this weird Danish female director -can't recall her name at the moment - shooting shorts mixing  "cinema of transgression"'s , surf/garage music with humans in stop-motion. Her funniest effort was the blasphemous "Prayjob" where the director herself sucks a weird Jesus/Devil lookalike.
Title: Re: CINEMA OF TRANSGRESSION
Post by: Strömkarlen on January 20, 2010, 11:06:16 PM
Quote from: tiny_tove on January 20, 2010, 09:59:41 PM
Great stuff at the time. I loved the two longer pieces of Kern you mentioned (especially "The right side of my brain" ), but my favurite of all the time is Zedd's "War is menstrual envy" with Kendra Pfhaler playing with tentacles and miss Sprinkle kissing the burnt sod.

A couple of years ago I have talked about it with Annabel Lee (now in Blood Axis) who used to be in Nazi, Bitches and others. Apparently they were living quite wild days indeed.

I remember this weird Danish female director -can't recall her name at the moment - shooting shorts mixing  "cinema of transgression"'s , surf/garage music with humans in stop-motion. Her funniest effort was the blasphemous "Prayjob" where the director herself sucks a weird Jesus/Devil lookalike.

Is it Beatrice Eggers you mean? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NED8PpXu_yI and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxqJPuwdmIY

I think she was pretty involved with TOPY Scan at the time. At least Carl Abrahamsson who was the head honcho of TOPY Scan used to show her films.

Ask Annabel about her modelling for Charles Gatewood. I have only seen one of those pictures... She said she changed her hair colour not be recognised. I guess it didn't work.
Title: Re: CINEMA OF TRANSGRESSION
Post by: tiny_tove on January 20, 2010, 11:27:38 PM
Nope.
I meant Bynke Maibøll http://www.bynke.dk/
I like Beatrice Eggers though.

I didn't know about Gatewood photographin' Annabel, will check into that.
Title: Re: CINEMA OF TRANSGRESSION
Post by: online prowler on October 30, 2013, 08:54:54 PM
Good thread. Thanx. Should get some new attention.

Title: Re: CINEMA OF TRANSGRESSION
Post by: FreakAnimalFinland on March 03, 2022, 04:47:12 PM
In deaths topic mentioned Nick Zedd.
His works was real inspiration, especially back in the day.

Some good articles:
https://www.artforum.com/news/nick-zedd-1958-2022-88031
Title: Re: CINEMA OF TRANSGRESSION
Post by: FreakAnimalFinland on March 03, 2022, 04:48:46 PM
Intereview:
http://portable-infinite.blogspot.com/2018/06/interview-with-nick-zedd.html
Title: Re: CINEMA OF TRANSGRESSION
Post by: AdamLehrerImageMaker on March 03, 2022, 10:51:41 PM
I recently did an episode of my podcast on CoT. Not sure if anyone knows this but Zedd passed away this year. I was lucky enough to spend time with him in New York working on a project related to no wave art as a curatorial assistant at the Museum of Sex. He was brilliant, weird, subversive.

https://soundcloud.com/systemofsystems/unlocked-cinema-of-transgression-w-michael-m-bilandic
Title: Re: CINEMA OF TRANSGRESSION
Post by: FreakAnimalFinland on March 04, 2022, 08:33:22 AM
Quote from: AdamLehrerImageMaker on March 03, 2022, 10:51:41 PM
Not sure if anyone knows this but Zedd passed away this year.

Yeah, like mentioned above, it was first mentioned in Deaths topic, by singer of Contortus. Curiously he was the guy who sent me the Thrust In Me VHS copy back in the mid 90's. It was VHS tape with couple XXX flicks or mondo-gore kind of stuff, and as there was few minutes blank in the end, this short film was dubbed there without prior request. In in 90's, when you lived in small town Finland, it was rare that anyone would have extensive video collections. All K-18 films were still illegal to sell back then (until turn to 00's, which now seems ridiculous). I don't know if the youngsters even really remember that horror, gore, even regular hardcore porn was illegal to sell, therefore pricy and harder to get.
Then getting surprised with Nick Zedd film, which was like all misfits engaging into sex, death and blasphemy with neat punk soundtrack and very much DIY ethos, it had big impact. There is something in use of FILM that makes a lot of things work. Often with later days independent movies, I just dislike the typical look of digital video, that can't really rate it as... movie. As a FILM. The early cinema of transgression, the film itself makes a lot of short bits work that are nothing that unusual when compared to what has been published since mid 80's.

Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on March 03, 2022, 04:47:12 PM
In deaths topic mentioned Nick Zedd.
His works was real inspiration, especially back in the day.

Some good articles:
https://www.artforum.com/news/nick-zedd-1958-2022-88031
Title: Re: CINEMA OF TRANSGRESSION
Post by: AdamLehrerImageMaker on March 04, 2022, 07:26:14 PM
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on March 04, 2022, 08:33:22 AM
Quote from: AdamLehrerImageMaker on March 03, 2022, 10:51:41 PM
Not sure if anyone knows this but Zedd passed away this year.

Yeah, like mentioned above, it was first mentioned in Deaths topic, by singer of Contortus. Curiously he was the guy who sent me the Thrust In Me VHS copy back in the mid 90's. It was VHS tape with couple XXX flicks or mondo-gore kind of stuff, and as there was few minutes blank in the end, this short film was dubbed there without prior request. In in 90's, when you lived in small town Finland, it was rare that anyone would have extensive video collections. All K-18 films were still illegal to sell back then (until turn to 00's, which now seems ridiculous). I don't know if the youngsters even really remember that horror, gore, even regular hardcore porn was illegal to sell, therefore pricy and harder to get.
Then getting surprised with Nick Zedd film, which was like all misfits engaging into sex, death and blasphemy with neat punk soundtrack and very much DIY ethos, it had big impact. There is something in use of FILM that makes a lot of things work. Often with later days independent movies, I just dislike the typical look of digital video, that can't really rate it as... movie. As a FILM. The early cinema of transgression, the film itself makes a lot of short bits work that are nothing that unusual when compared to what has been published since mid 80's.

Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on March 03, 2022, 04:47:12 PM
In deaths topic mentioned Nick Zedd.
His works was real inspiration, especially back in the day.

Some good articles:
https://www.artforum.com/news/nick-zedd-1958-2022-88031

That filmmaker I interviewed Michael Bilandic, talented guy in his own right, told me that he was at an Oliver Stone talk and out of nowhere Zedd barged in to lambast Stone for his uncritical support of the Iraq WMDs NatSec plot line and then accused Stone of ripping Zedd's aesthetic off with Natural Born Killers. Zedd said he wanted royalties. LOL.