Lets separate topic from "movies", "sleaze", "horror" and whatever into art film.
I know this early 80's film is something probably many have seen, and perhaps doesn't need huge presentation, but if someone has yet to see it:
KOYAANISQATSI
Godfrey Reggio experimental documentary about life out of balance. Slowed down film of spectacular natural visions, fast paced film of factories, city life. Such a massive difference in amazing landscapes shot with perfection of film. Towards massive scale urban decay, perhaps captured in nut-shell when showing the demolition of world famous architechtural/social monolith Pruitt–Igoe. Pace of this c. 80 minute film is ever increasing, finally returning to first scene of rocket launch. And the infamous desaster of this technological achievement is pictured in the painfully artistic manner.
Phillip Glass is composer who can sound either utmost genious, or man with mere couple ideas. If you have handful of his albums, you can pretty much rely on knowledge what kind of soundtrack he will provide. I would dare to say that his music works well for soundtrack. The oppressive and hectic style in end, with strange tempo changes are very very "traditional" Glass, yet I fits well into dysfunctional technological hell.
His more relaxing pieces in beginning of film suit my taste the best. Just couple weeks ago, I was driving to trip in forest with my friend, to this natural preserve area, and had P.Glass CD in car. And came into conclusion, that driving narrow sand road in middle of forest, his music did get into role it deserved! Much better than sitting on chair at your hope. And this movie proves it as well. It is cinematic / visual music.
If you have chances to experience this with proper PA, prober screening, do it. Some dull youtube link with tiny image and laptop speakers of mp3 level sound probably doesn't do the justice.
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on October 16, 2010, 10:46:51 AM
Lets separate topic from "movies", "sleaze", "horror" and whatever into art film.
maybe off-topic but this reminds me of Isolation, a movie usually referred to as a artmovie in the press, but basically it's just Cronenbergian 80ies bodyhorror about a mutated cow infecting people lol.....never kinda got the artmovie label :-) ....the same happened to Calvaire to some extend, weird!
I saw millionn years ago Teemu Mäkis video-installations in Ateneum (http://www.ateneum.fi/), "Good Friday" was really striking, fuck that hassle about his cat-killing video, most of people don´t even know his work (just that one)
Even if things obviously crosses over, I think people can separate the usual sleaze/cult/slasher and so on.
This topic to focus on experimental film making / art film. Be it documentary, what doesn't perhaps fit among talk or regular documentaries (like my opening message) or fictive/art-visual, which isn't exactly the normal movie in the usual tradition.
I think there should be done Teemu Mäki dvd collection, heh! Guaranteed success in the media.
Ubuweb (http://www.ubu.com/film/index.html) is the best source for art movies. Lots of hits and misses. Personal favourites -
Yukoku aka Patriotism aka Rite Of Love And Death (http://www.ubu.com/film/mishima_rite.html) - didn't know Mishima made a movie until I saw this. If you want sex and blood, you've got it.
Lot In Sodom (http://www.ubu.com/film/watson_sodom.html) - I love Biblical features but, as usual, forgoes the incest, sadly.
Quote from: theotherjohn on October 18, 2010, 01:09:42 AMIncidentally, I'm interested to know if noise or power electronics had music videos, what would the images be?
Genocide Lolita (http://www.youtube.com/user/Wolvesofculture) spring to mind.
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on October 18, 2010, 01:28:47 AM
Ubuweb (http://www.ubu.com/film/index.html) is the best source for art movies. Lots of hits and misses. Personal favourites -
Yukoku aka Patriotism aka Rite Of Love And Death (http://www.ubu.com/film/mishima_rite.html) - didn't know Mishima made a movie until I saw this. If you want sex and blood, you've got it.
Lot In Sodom (http://www.ubu.com/film/watson_sodom.html) - I love Biblical features but, as usual, forgoes the incest, sadly.
I didn't know Mishima did a film either. I'll have to check that out!
Quote from: theotherjohn on October 18, 2010, 01:09:42 AMIncidentally, I'm interested to know if noise or power electronics had music videos, what would the images be?
Like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAwO_ySJCf4
and perhpas like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2cUpidEY_w
A great source is Amos Vogels book Film as a Subversive Art.
(http://www.adlibris.com/se/covers/M/1/93/1933045272.jpg)
I sometimes just think about the fact that he wrote it before dowload, before vhs. That he actually had to hunt down prints to be able to see all these films. It is just amazing.
one of the last amazing feature 'art films' i saw at the theatre was Abbas Kiarostami's FIVE DEDICATED TO OZU (2003). it was part of the Vancouver International Film Festival. ALOT of walk-outs as they were expecting a regular kiarostami tour de force of yes, amazing drawn-out landscape shots, etc. but also storyline and drama. I personally loved it as his epic shots of meandering life after powerful realist escapades in his more 'popular' films are magnificent; and FIVE was simply a collection of those with no narrative.
description:
"Five sequences : 1) A piece of driftwood on the seashore, carried about by the waves 2) People walking on the seashore. The oldest ones stop by, look at the sea, then go away 3) Blurry shapes on a winter beach. A herd of dogs. A love story 4) A group of loud ducks cross the image, in one direction then the other 5) A pond, at night. Frogs improvising a concert. A storm, then the sunrise."
interesting imdb review:
"Five is by far Kiarostami's most perfected film. His art has reached a level of maturity that very few directors can ever dream of reaching. This is what minimalism really is : saying nothing yet expressing everything.
In a nutshell, Five is an experience for the sight. There is a strong narrative in every shots. Suspense is created from these Deleuzian pure optical/aural situations, you watch every wave hit the shore and suddenly your mind awakes. All of the elements of narrative films is right there, albeit being in their most absolute minimal form : suspense, tension, relief.
Five, unlike Hollywood films, works only if the viewer submits himself entirely to the experience. It takes cinema back to its very beginning : unipunctual "views", like Lumière films. One might argued that it's a film about cinema in many ways."
that was a HEAVY year at the VIFF as i also got to see Bruno Dumont's TWENTYNINE PALMS in a theater setting... a real audience fist fight halfway through and everything.
Quote from: ConcreteMascara on October 18, 2010, 02:06:08 AM
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on October 18, 2010, 01:28:47 AM
Ubuweb (http://www.ubu.com/film/index.html) is the best source for art movies. Lots of hits and misses. Personal favourites -
Yukoku aka Patriotism aka Rite Of Love And Death (http://www.ubu.com/film/mishima_rite.html) - didn't know Mishima made a movie until I saw this. If you want sex and blood, you've got it.
Lot In Sodom (http://www.ubu.com/film/watson_sodom.html) - I love Biblical features but, as usual, forgoes the incest, sadly.
I didn't know Mishima did a film either. I'll have to check that out!
I picked up the criterion collection DVD about a year ago. I've watched it at least 9-10 times. The interviews great. I like the mix of humour and suicidal ideation.
In response to the topic of PE videos, I'd like to extend an offer of my work to artists. I have lots of bizarre odds and ends video that I'd like to put to good use, and a desire to edit.
SINGAPORE SLING ?
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on October 23, 2010, 02:53:34 AM
SINGAPORE SLING ?
Would not call it art film, more like comedy
Quote from: halthan on October 23, 2010, 08:02:56 AM
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on October 23, 2010, 02:53:34 AM
SINGAPORE SLING ?
Would not call it art film, more like comedy
Parts are humourous but not sure if that is intentional. Compared to what I generally like, it's an art film. Most intersting thing about it is that NO ONE involved with that movie wants to admit it or talk about it!
Some time ago bought 2xDVD box of avantgarde films from 20's to early 50's. Damn. I must say, it may be art, but it has been also tough struggle to go through. And I'm still in pretty early stages. Sometimes merely the fact that it is old grainy FILM, makes it worthy. Worthy of what, one could ask? Not sure, but lets say that if these were shot on video, I wouldn't even try.
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on February 10, 2011, 09:53:54 PM
Some time ago bought 2xDVD box of avantgarde films from 20's to early 50's. Damn. I must say, it may be art, but it has been also tough struggle to go through. And I'm still in pretty early stages. Sometimes merely the fact that it is old grainy FILM, makes it worthy. Worthy of what, one could ask? Not sure, but lets say that if these were shot on video, I wouldn't even try.
That Kino box thing?
Which one?
yeah. Kino international, Avantgarde vol 2 - Films from the Raymond Rohauer collection. 2007 release. There was 4 parts, I think, but somehow this looked the most interesting.
Yeah. I picked it up a few years ago for Traite de Bave et D'Eternite by Isidore Isou , which might be more of a historical curiosity for those interested in the Lettrists and Situationists.
A couple of the Brakhage films were okay, If my memory serves.
The added "modern" soundtracks for the silent features are terrible. Line in recordings of a sampler or something.
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on October 23, 2010, 02:53:34 AM
SINGAPORE SLING ?
I must admit a big disappointment, although with some interesting parts.
KOYAANISQATSI- great film Mikko and i love the demolition of the underprivleged living buildings, A local theatre here in Melbourne plays this film along with its sequels, which is apparantly the ultimate way to see the film, big sound and big screen