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GENERAL SOUND DISCUSSION => GENERAL SOUND DISCUSSION => Topic started by: a_2_g_2 on September 26, 2016, 03:24:36 AM

Title: Ideal P.E. Vocals
Post by: a_2_g_2 on September 26, 2016, 03:24:36 AM
I'm curious to know what is everybody's favorite "style" of vocals in power electronics is

Dirty distorted vocals like some early prurient (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7dpgYO251M=url)

"synth-y" type vocals like Genocide organ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzsPAVo4np4=url)

Vocals covered in delay effects like Anenzephalia (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMCF0R32ODU=url)

Or even vocals that sound there's no effects whatsoever like Brethren (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2J6GkrmliOs=url)

I'm sure there are plenty of other styles, which should be posted and discussed..
So, any favorites? Any type of vocal that you absolutely hate?
Of course the kind of noise totally affects the vocals behind it, but personally I like a the "synth-y" type mentioned above.
Title: Re: Ideal P.E. Vocals
Post by: ritualabuser on September 26, 2016, 05:48:17 AM
I think the absolute pinnacle of PE vox is Pasi's work in his various projects, absolutely savage. The "bubbling" vocals in a lot of Con-Dom work are great, too.
Title: Re: Ideal P.E. Vocals
Post by: BlackHole on September 26, 2016, 06:40:33 AM
I like vocals to be harsh, buried, and drenched in affects. Control is a good example. Bizarre Uproar's "Vihameditaatio" & "Amputaatio" are other fine examples.

I also like violent and in your face vocals, best exemplified on Deathpile's "G.R." LP. Brethren is a good example of this as well.

Roger's vocals in BDN are also great. So demented and deranged sounding. My favorite vocal performances by Roger are on the tracks "No Tomorrow" from the Innerwar LP and "Humans" from the Very Little Fun box set.
Title: Re: Ideal P.E. Vocals
Post by: F_c_O on September 26, 2016, 07:31:41 AM
I don't know what I would count as perfect but I know what I dislike greatly and that is vocals filtered through (too many) effects. I can enjoy some tasteful reverb/echo but when you go with shit phaser and flanger and shit turns all bubbly and sounds more like a fucking fish tank than vocals they just lose all power to me. This is a thing that diminishes some con-dom tracks a lot for me, for example. I know mike can do amazing vocals when theyre not filtered through effects but when he uses effects on them its just. . .Fuck that, why does he have to basically ruin his voice cause in the end, the clean vocals he does are so powerful? This is basically same thing with everyone who uses a lot of effects on vocals. Good thing that some people enjoy them, though.
Title: Re: Ideal P.E. Vocals
Post by: Kim V on September 26, 2016, 08:20:38 AM
To me the way Human Larvae does his vocals is the absolute best. Grunt too.
Title: Re: Ideal P.E. Vocals
Post by: tiny_tove on September 26, 2016, 10:18:35 AM
Mike Dando
Title: Re: Ideal P.E. Vocals
Post by: Dr Alex on September 26, 2016, 11:16:14 AM
Michael Nine (Death Squad, MK9)
Mike Dando (Con-Dom)
Kevin Tomkins (Sutcliffe Jügend)
Marco Corbelli (Atrax Morgue)
William Bennet and Philip Best (Whitehouse)
David Rodgers (Brethren, Organized Resistance)
Martin Bladh (IRM, Skin Area)
Leonardas Marozas (Pogrom, Budrūs)

I like a lot projects with vocals buried in mix but I prefer louder vocals, not just "vocal as another instrument".
Title: Re: Ideal P.E. Vocals
Post by: cutter on September 26, 2016, 01:47:42 PM
I have a few favorites:

Without much effects but screamed like in "Black Flag" from Grunt
Normal speech also without much fx in example "Nevada Lights" from FFH
And I absolutely adore female vocals which sounds like commands i can say, just like on the "Purification" cassette from Bizzare Uproar
Title: Re: Ideal P.E. Vocals
Post by: Scat-O-Logy on September 27, 2016, 01:46:45 AM
BU Pasi vox are the ultimate but I also worship Levas' brute force delivery. Also have to mention manic/frantic/creepy old man style of Taint/Strict.

Can't forget the classic Final Solution/Whitehouse style. The early Ramleh PE vox were great and rather unique.

Bladh's vocals are more atmospheric and fits perfectly to his projects.
Title: Re: Ideal P.E. Vocals
Post by: cantle on September 27, 2016, 04:30:56 AM
Delay- the Grey Wolves/ Con Dom live CD from Heavy Electronics II style
Title: Re: Ideal P.E. Vocals
Post by: a_2_g_2 on September 27, 2016, 05:48:42 AM
Quote from: BlackHole on September 26, 2016, 06:40:33 AM
I like vocals to be harsh, buried, and drenched in affects. Control is a good example. Bizarre Uproar's "Vihameditaatio" & "Amputaatio" are other fine examples.

I also like violent and in your face vocals, best exemplified on Deathpile's "G.R." LP. Brethren is a good example of this as well.

Roger's vocals in BDN are also great. So demented and deranged sounding. My favorite vocal performances by Roger are on the tracks "No Tomorrow" from the Innerwar LP and "Humans" from the Very Little Fun box set.
Never realized how much Brethren's vocals were similar to Deathpile. Only reason I mentioned Brethren in my op was because I was listening to him recently

Quote from: ritualabuser on September 26, 2016, 05:48:17 AM
I think the absolute pinnacle of PE vox is Pasi's
Quote from: Scat-O-Logy on September 27, 2016, 01:46:45 AM
BU Pasi vox are the ultimate
I too have always loved BU's vocals, especially in a live setting like so
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtE0mXF3A4Q
Title: Re: Ideal P.E. Vocals
Post by: yosef666 on September 27, 2016, 11:44:12 AM
Whitehouse 's "Wriggle Like an Eel" has some of my favorite vocals ever.
Title: Re: Ideal P.E. Vocals
Post by: david lloyd jones on September 27, 2016, 03:16:04 PM
Quote from: yosef666 on September 27, 2016, 11:44:12 AM
Whitehouse 's "Wriggle Like an Eel" has some of my favorite vocals ever.

yes, I do like this, but to me this is comedy, like two uncles who have been slipped some ecstasy at a wedding reception by the grooms brother- live shows of this time exemplify this for me.
Title: Re: Ideal P.E. Vocals
Post by: tiny_tove on September 27, 2016, 03:16:25 PM
Quote from: yosef666 on September 27, 2016, 11:44:12 AM
Whitehouse 's "Wriggle Like an Eel" has some of my favorite vocals ever.

agreed!
Title: Re: Ideal P.E. Vocals
Post by: david lloyd jones on September 27, 2016, 03:51:46 PM
mostly enjoy vocals as they come, but don't like preachy vocals, brethren, that Zionist project whose name I can't remember, crass etc
Title: Re: Ideal P.E. Vocals
Post by: tisbor on September 28, 2016, 02:31:10 AM
early Whitehouse, Ramleh, Atrax Morgue and related, old Teatro Satanico, Murder Corporation, Bloodyminded, Deathpile, Slogun, Dando, BDN, Sutcliffe Jugend, Final Solution/Hydra, Blood Ov Thee Christ, Grunt, Bizarre Uproar (especially Tiina I must say), Deviated Sister Tv.
Fuck, too many.
Title: Re: Ideal P.E. Vocals
Post by: tiny_tove on September 28, 2016, 01:31:58 PM
Quote from: david lloyd jones on September 27, 2016, 03:51:46 PM
that Zionist project whose name I can't remember,

Barzel!

Title: Re: Ideal P.E. Vocals
Post by: Fluid Fetish on September 29, 2016, 01:30:11 AM
Most already mentioned but  never the less...all Whitehouse (Birdseed and Mummy/Daddy especially), Taint/Mania, BU/XE of course, BU/Gelsomnia- love the alternating shouted screams on Side A, agonized death howls of SS/SSRI,  STAB Electronics just perfect, Atrax Morgue for bizarre and very uniquely personal sounding, Deathpile, Concrete Mascara, Control, Grunt and Nicole 12 (Mikko sounds like an animal roaring at times to me), Deathkey, Strict, the various Genocide Organ approaches, the detached and hallucinatory monotony of Anenzephalia, the many ranges and subdued or frantic styles of BDN, rabid rage of Brethren and Organized Resistance...MANY MANY MORE
Title: Re: Ideal P.E. Vocals
Post by: david lloyd jones on September 29, 2016, 09:50:50 PM
ideal vocals for me are, delayed voices, 'dale' style vocals, and anything 'buried' in the mix.
'punk' style vocals don't attract, whatever the message.
Title: Re: Ideal P.E. Vocals
Post by: david lloyd jones on September 29, 2016, 11:36:41 PM
Quote from: Peterson on September 29, 2016, 11:21:57 PM
People have already mentioned inarguable greats, but what about:

E.J. Vodka/Eddie from Final Solution? The high pitch, the throaty hoarseness, the NY accent all add to the overall "feel" of the project, which I think might not be there had anyone but E.J. handled the vocals. Just sounds altogether porno-sleazier, angrier, and all that. Kinda like William Bennett without the intentionally funny delivery thrown in.

John from Slogun? Always thought the yelling delivery, NY accent, and nasal pitch of his voice always perfectly complimented the electronics so that in his case, the vocals deliver the lyrics, but also act as another instrument on top of the staccato harsh noise walls. I also would find some of his lyrics a little hard to take seriously from another vocalist, hard to explain why - it's just the "feeling." Although I like Deathpile, maybe some would see what I mean when comparing "G.R." to "Chronicle of Serial Murder."

Keith Bitewerks from Taint/Mania?? While I tend to get tired of the vocal delivery on at least half of all Taint tracks (they just never "hit me" except a few passages from Whoredom), Mania basically hits the spot with every single track. Not even sure whether or not there are any lyrics, I'm guessing there aren't. I like this approach to vocals-as-an-instrument, there's a good amount of variation and always well-chosen effects that help blend the roaring, screaming, and agonized wails into the rest of the sounds. I like how the vocalizations sort of erupt out of the background, then fade away in a wash of echo.

Pekka SS Offizier!! I don't care, his style is perhaps simplistic, just talking, shouting, and yelling...but there is COMMAND and PRESENCE. Not simple PE vocals, but more like narrative oration! What little effects he uses really just help the voice to coexist with the sounds, which is admirable, as they don't add or subtract much of anything to his actual voice. Listen to "The Snow Fell," "Verbranntes Land," or pretty much anything from the Shift split, and tell me you don't like it, I challenge you.

slogun vocals used to be part of the USA style that held me in rapture for a while-aggressive, honestly delivered, real.
will promote all UK artists here.
ifots  are wholly unique in their approach, and all the better for that.
shift and stab electronics,  pure UK style power electronics style.
Title: Re: Ideal P.E. Vocals
Post by: V.T.R on September 29, 2016, 11:41:11 PM
Lot of good ones mentioned already, but my faves are Mikko's delivery in Grunt. Especially in 'Petturien rooli' album. Sektor 304's André Coelho's vocals are also top notch! Powerful shouting and rage works best for me. But of course heavily effected vocals has their time and place too. Mike Dando, Genocide Organ etc.

Quote from: Peterson on September 29, 2016, 11:21:57 PM
Pekka SS Offizier!!

Pekka is the MAN.
Title: Re: Ideal P.E. Vocals
Post by: a_2_g_2 on September 30, 2016, 04:37:24 AM
Quote from: Peterson on September 29, 2016, 11:21:57 PM
People have already mentioned inarguable greats, but what about:
E.J. Vodka/Eddie from Final Solution?
E.J.'s vocals are one of my favorite vocals in PE. Some of the best vocal work could be heard on the new FS/Trucido split. His new york italian accent is what really packs a punch. I could never get enough of it
Title: Re: Ideal P.E. Vocals
Post by: deathcamp on September 30, 2016, 10:43:46 PM
Can add Wertham and STROM.ec to those already mentioned.
Title: Re: Ideal P.E. Vocals
Post by: Dr Alex on October 01, 2016, 12:46:13 AM
Quote from: deathcamp on September 30, 2016, 10:43:46 PM
Can add Wertham and STROM.ec to those already mentioned.

Yes!! Marco's vocals are amazing but I would like it louder in mix in some tracks of C031.
Title: Re: Ideal P.E. Vocals
Post by: cr on October 01, 2016, 10:35:05 AM
Agree with most names already mentioned.

Would like to add:

Ulex Xane/STREICHER
Martin Willford/SHIFT
Pierpaolo Zoppo/MAUTHAUSEN ORCHESTRA

Title: Re: Ideal P.E. Vocals
Post by: monotome on October 01, 2016, 11:54:36 PM
Me.
Title: Re: Ideal P.E. Vocals
Post by: tisbor on October 03, 2016, 01:12:31 AM
Fuck yes, Sick Seed's cover of "The snow fell" is amazing
Title: Re: Ideal P.E. Vocals
Post by: Max DeFrost on October 05, 2016, 03:56:20 PM
Kevin Tomkins.    I like the way he phrases sentences. Even the narrated pieces Sutcliffe Jugend do have a good edge - almost sarcastic then leaping into the raging screams
Title: Re: Ideal P.E. Vocals
Post by: ANDROPHILIA on October 05, 2016, 05:40:46 PM
Quote from: Max DeFrost on October 05, 2016, 03:56:20 PM
Kevin Tomkins.    I like the way he phrases sentences. Even the narrated pieces Sutcliffe Jugend do have a good edge - almost sarcastic then leaping into the raging screams

someone tells me in some moments looks like James Hetfield
LOL
Title: Re: Ideal P.E. Vocals
Post by: Deadpriest on January 19, 2017, 08:13:06 PM
There's something very special about Phillip Best's rage, there's a level of normality in it that makes it feel very real to me. John Balistreri also (of Slogun) is very believable or rather characterful, the bragging, hollow man that he's projecting perfectly speaks his lyrics.
Title: Re: Ideal P.E. Vocals
Post by: VelvetCurtain on January 20, 2017, 04:24:49 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkMMCmURBQw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EB3DiOesXN0

OF COURSE
Indian Burial Ground. Hidden Midwestern power electronics. And truly underground cult shit.
Title: Re: Ideal P.E. Vocals
Post by: NaturalOrthodoxy on May 12, 2017, 01:52:48 PM
Quote from: Deadpriest on January 19, 2017, 08:13:06 PM
There's something very special about Phillip Best's rage, there's a level of normality in it that makes it feel very real to me. John Balistreri also (of Slogun) is very believable or rather characterful, the bragging, hollow man that he's projecting perfectly speaks his lyrics.


yeah, certainly a very obvious choice but undeniable. His vocals on Consumer Electronics - Dollhouse Songs are just dripping with a very believable hate that you feel comes from a lived experience of the lowest of the low. especially the quiet spoken vocals towards the end of the album. Sarah's vocals are brilliant on that album too.