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GENERAL SOUND DISCUSSION => GENERAL SOUND DISCUSSION => Topic started by: F_c_O on October 21, 2016, 01:17:06 PM

Title: Your pet peevees about records
Post by: F_c_O on October 21, 2016, 01:17:06 PM
I cant be the only one here who has these little things that just annoy endlessly when it comes to releases. For example, I cant stand single sided vinyls. It feels just lopsided to me, like something is missing and I really cant stand it. Even worse is 2xlp's with one single sided vinyl. Drives me absolutely crazy.

Other thing is not marking rpm or side a/b. Maybe thats not necessary for some records but to me its just something I feel as necessary. Even if not a/b side markings, at least the rpm. I dont want to guess the speed the record is meant to be played at, at all. Fuck that. As for the a/b thing, maybe its just my personal need to have tracks in the 'intended order' so the album flows with the intended structure, although I have a feeling that this might not be even a consideration to some artists.

Either way, what kind of things really annoy other people here?
Title: Re: Your pet peevees about records
Post by: SiClark on October 21, 2016, 01:23:53 PM
I agree about notifying about RPM, of course you can work it out but have certainly had some records I have listened to at certain speed and then heard actual samples and realised I had it at the wrong speed. Again, not the end of the world but prefer when it's noted.

With one sided Lps I don't really see the point but 2xLPs where one is one sided I don't mind if the album clearly won't on two sides. Better than having everything spaced out to fit four sides, or having tracks edited to fit the space or cramming everything on one vinyl which would effect sound quality. With regards to A & B it's normally pretty easy to work it out, if there is nothing on the labels it's normally written on the actual vinyl.
Title: Re: Your pet peevees about records
Post by: Ashmonger on October 21, 2016, 03:47:07 PM
Mentioning RPM is mostly only important with Noise/PE/... 7"s where it's sometimes hard to figure it out by only judging the music. With other music you can hear it and when it's an album you most often know that it'll be 33rpm anyway.

And indeed, A & B side are most often etched on the vinyl anyway, though that's sometimes hard to see, especially with colored or transparent vinyl, so I like it when it's on the center label.

On a sidenote: I recently noticed that some of my LPs and CDs have lost some colored due to being in a room where the sun can shine on them. There's white curtain before the window, but it doesn't take much light away. Not getting really pissed over it, I find it disappointing, never thought about this before. Wouldn't know where to store my music to prevent this from happening at the moment either...
Title: Re: Your pet peevees about records
Post by: F_c_O on October 21, 2016, 03:50:34 PM
Quote from: Si Clark on October 21, 2016, 01:23:53 PM
With one sided Lps I don't really see the point but 2xLPs where one is one sided I don't mind if the album clearly won't on two sides. Better than having everything spaced out to fit four sides
I'd rather have it spaced out like than than have empty side. I dunno, having one empty side, it just makes me feel really weird. Not like annoyed but physically it just feels wrong. I guess its more on me than anyone else, hehe.

as for the a/b side being etched, well, yeah but on other hand, i dont live in a fucking museum so i have to try and find the spot in my apartment where i can make it out without having to deal with glare or other bullshit.
Title: Re: Your pet peevees about records
Post by: collapsedhole on October 21, 2016, 04:28:04 PM
they're easily damaged when my drunk ass is incapable of delicately placing the tone arm
Title: Re: Your pet peevees about records
Post by: Baglady on October 21, 2016, 05:05:31 PM
Text turned upside down on the spines (running upwards instead of downwards as is the standard). Such an unnecessary thing. It bothers me to the degree that I sometimes design a new j-card if it's a tape.
Title: Re: Your pet peevees about records
Post by: SiClark on October 21, 2016, 05:13:46 PM
Quote from: Baglady on October 21, 2016, 05:05:31 PM
Text turned upside down on the spines (running upwards instead of downwards as is the standard). Such an unnecessary thing. It bothers me to the degree that I sometimes design a new j-card if it's a tape.
Ha, yeah that bugs me too (pretty sure I've never done that on any of my designs, mistake if I did).
Title: Re: Your pet peevees about records
Post by: F_c_O on October 21, 2016, 05:25:39 PM
Quote from: collapsedhole on October 21, 2016, 04:28:04 PM
they're easily damaged when my drunk ass is incapable of delicately placing the tone arm
Some of my fathers 7"s are completely fucked due to this. Sad thing cause some of them would be really nice to listen to too.
Title: Re: Your pet peevees about records
Post by: Theodore on October 21, 2016, 07:02:45 PM
Type of paper you can easily leave your fingerprints on ! Especially if it's black haha. I guess that's not a problem in northern countries, but try to read a booklet etc. in a 30C in-the-house enviroment and tell me how it looks after.
Title: Re: Your pet peevees about records
Post by: F_c_O on October 21, 2016, 07:37:28 PM
Quote from: Theodore on October 21, 2016, 07:02:45 PM
Type of paper you can easily leave your fingerprints on ! Especially if it's black haha. I guess that's not a problem in northern countries, but try to read a booklet etc. in a 30C in-the-house enviroment and tell me how it looks after.
digipacks are amazing for that!
Title: Re: Your pet peevees about records
Post by: Steve on October 21, 2016, 09:06:01 PM
Is this a comedy thread?
Title: Re: Your pet peevees about records
Post by: holy ghost on October 22, 2016, 04:02:49 AM
Quote from: Steve on October 21, 2016, 09:06:01 PM
Is this a comedy thread?


Backwards writing on the spines is no joke mate!! HUGE pet peeve.
Title: Re: Your pet peevees about records
Post by: Ritual on October 22, 2016, 10:10:29 AM
Shrink wrapped vinyl records, so when you buy them NEW they have split seams when you receive them due to the vinyl cutting through the cover during shipping!
Title: Re: Your pet peevees about records
Post by: Duncan on October 22, 2016, 03:57:40 PM
Single sided lps

Duff live recordings pressed to vinyl

Expensive reissues of easily found originals and the shops that sell only them.

Anything that has been pressed to vinyl for the sake of being on vinyl rather than working well over two sides.

Coloured vinyl for no reason.
Title: Re: Your pet peevees about records
Post by: collapsedhole on October 22, 2016, 04:42:25 PM
when one side is 33 and the other 45
Title: Re: Your pet peevees about records
Post by: Bleak Existence on October 22, 2016, 05:44:12 PM
i remember when i used to buy lp i liked when fucking rpm was writen on them suck to listen to a noise vinyl at wrong speed
Title: Re: Your pet peevees about records
Post by: cantle on October 22, 2016, 07:20:57 PM
Quote from: Duncan on October 22, 2016, 03:57:40 PM

Coloured vinyl for no reason.

Coloured vinyls 'cos they wrap.
Title: Re: Your pet peevees about records
Post by: holy ghost on October 23, 2016, 12:47:18 AM
That I can't find a fucking vinyl copy of Diamond Head "Lighting to the Nations" but you can buy every dumb reissue under the sun. Like with all these reissues why not reissue something crucial?
Title: Re: Your pet peevees about records
Post by: Steve on October 23, 2016, 11:26:30 AM
I can't find a fucking vinyl copy of Diamond Head "Lighting to the Nations"
https://www.discogs.com/sell/release/2129343?ev=rb
Title: Re: Your pet peevees about records
Post by: david lloyd jones on October 24, 2016, 09:38:52 PM
clicks, scratches, hiss, expense as per cd's.,
cheap euro pressing vs bespoke uk ones.
the worse sound of coloured or pic disks.
their shortness as compared to cd's when sitting down (a purely lazy observation)
blah blah, blah.
will still buy vynil whatever the drawbacks.
Title: Re: Your pet peevees about records
Post by: SinkSlopProcessing on October 30, 2016, 03:55:05 AM
- Picture discs and lathe cuts (both objectively sound terrible, and serve no purpose other than as an object d'art to hang on your wall). Kind of a bummer to have to re-purchase an album just to get a decent-sounding copy.

- Taking the same master used to create the CD, making little or no changes, not altering the track order for density, and then just slapping it onto vinyl. Lost count of how many records I purchased that clearly sound worse than the CD because of this.

- For older albums: Not breaking out the original master tapes for a remaster. Unless they specifically state otherwise, you can bet your arse they just used the CD.
Title: Re: Your pet peevees about records
Post by: holy ghost on October 30, 2016, 08:24:02 PM
Quote from: Steve on October 23, 2016, 11:26:30 AM
I can't find a fucking vinyl copy of Diamond Head "Lighting to the Nations"
https://www.discogs.com/sell/release/2129343?ev=rb

I assumed "for a reasonable price" was implied yet here we are....
Title: Re: Your pet peevees about records
Post by: F_c_O on November 06, 2016, 01:07:40 PM
The Vetala/Mons Veneris split 12" has so small middle hole in it that when i try to fucking lift it, the whole vinyl bends. I have no idea how to get it out now that I have listened to one side without breaking or bending it too much. For fucks sake.

https://imgur.com/a/5EIxf

Thanks Altare Productions for this! Before anyone says anything, you should be able to see that the other side of the vinyl is of the slipmat so it isnt leaning against it or anything or i am not otherwise deliberaly bending it. The center hole is just so fucking small on it. As you can imagine, now the lp is lopsided but at least its listenable.

The mons veneris side slays though.
Title: Re: Your pet peevees about records
Post by: holy ghost on November 06, 2016, 05:03:48 PM
Ugh when the middle hole is too small, very obnoxious! I also constantly loose that thing for "large hole" 45s, like come on!!! Why are you still making these?!?!
Title: Re: Your pet peevees about records
Post by: david lloyd jones on November 07, 2016, 05:14:59 PM
Quote from: F_c_O on November 06, 2016, 01:07:40 PM
The Vetala/Mons Veneris split 12" has so small middle hole in it that when i try to fucking lift it, the whole vinyl bends. I have no idea how to get it out now that I have listened to one side without breaking or bending it too much. For fucks sake.

https://imgur.com/a/5EIxf

Thanks Altare Productions for this! Before anyone says anything, you should be able to see that the other side of the vinyl is of the slipmat so it isnt leaning against it or anything or i am not otherwise deliberaly bending it. The center hole is just so fucking small on it. As you can imagine, now the lp is lopsided but at least its listenable.

The mons veneris side slays though.

why did you force it in the first place?
any vinyl that seems to snug gets a shave from me.
Title: Re: Your pet peevees about records
Post by: F_c_O on November 07, 2016, 05:30:05 PM
Quote from: david lloyd jones on November 07, 2016, 05:14:59 PM
Quote from: F_c_O on November 06, 2016, 01:07:40 PM
The Vetala/Mons Veneris split 12" has so small middle hole in it that when i try to fucking lift it, the whole vinyl bends. I have no idea how to get it out now that I have listened to one side without breaking or bending it too much. For fucks sake.

https://imgur.com/a/5EIxf

Thanks Altare Productions for this! Before anyone says anything, you should be able to see that the other side of the vinyl is of the slipmat so it isnt leaning against it or anything or i am not otherwise deliberaly bending it. The center hole is just so fucking small on it. As you can imagine, now the lp is lopsided but at least its listenable.

The mons veneris side slays though.
why did you force it in the first place?
any vinyl that seems to snug gets a shave from me.

cause i paid for it and wanted to listen to it. duh.
Title: Re: Your pet peevees about records
Post by: david lloyd jones on November 07, 2016, 06:18:16 PM
Quote from: F_c_O on November 07, 2016, 05:30:05 PM
Quote from: david lloyd jones on November 07, 2016, 05:14:59 PM
Quote from: F_c_O on November 06, 2016, 01:07:40 PM
The Vetala/Mons Veneris split 12" has so small middle hole in it that when i try to fucking lift it, the whole vinyl bends. I have no idea how to get it out now that I have listened to one side without breaking or bending it too much. For fucks sake.

https://imgur.com/a/5EIxf

Thanks Altare Productions for this! Before anyone says anything, you should be able to see that the other side of the vinyl is of the slipmat so it isnt leaning against it or anything or i am not otherwise deliberaly bending it. The center hole is just so fucking small on it. As you can imagine, now the lp is lopsided but at least its listenable.

The mons veneris side slays though.
why did you force it in the first place?
any vinyl that seems to snug gets a shave from me.

cause i paid for it and wanted to listen to it. duh.
well, yes, but why try and force it and not accept its' tightness and seek to remedy-this has been my standard practice for years, as some pressing are too small for the turntable spindle
Title: Re: Your pet peevees about records
Post by: impulse manslaughter on November 07, 2016, 11:49:53 PM
I use a pair of scissors to make the hole a bit larger. Push the scissors in and twist/turn to scrape off a thin layer of vinyl..
Title: Re: Your pet peevees about records
Post by: F_c_O on November 08, 2016, 12:46:46 PM
Quote from: david lloyd jones on November 07, 2016, 06:18:16 PM
Quote from: F_c_O on November 07, 2016, 05:30:05 PM
Quote from: david lloyd jones on November 07, 2016, 05:14:59 PM
Quote from: F_c_O on November 06, 2016, 01:07:40 PM
The Vetala/Mons Veneris split 12" has so small middle hole in it that when i try to fucking lift it, the whole vinyl bends. I have no idea how to get it out now that I have listened to one side without breaking or bending it too much. For fucks sake.

https://imgur.com/a/5EIxf

Thanks Altare Productions for this! Before anyone says anything, you should be able to see that the other side of the vinyl is of the slipmat so it isnt leaning against it or anything or i am not otherwise deliberaly bending it. The center hole is just so fucking small on it. As you can imagine, now the lp is lopsided but at least its listenable.

The mons veneris side slays though.
why did you force it in the first place?
any vinyl that seems to snug gets a shave from me.

cause i paid for it and wanted to listen to it. duh.
well, yes, but why try and force it and not accept its' tightness and seek to remedy-this has been my standard practice for years, as some pressing are too small for the turntable spindle
hasnt happened in past so i thought it wouldnt happen this time either. guess lesson learned.
Title: Re: Your pet peevees about records
Post by: GEWALTMONOPOL on November 08, 2016, 06:20:31 PM
Unfair perhaps but I see a few people here who would be - to paraphrase Henry Rollins - far too easy to kill in an Urban Environment. Some urgent toughening up and reprioritising of priorities are in order. This genre is for killers, not damsels in distress because "the hole is too small". Go away and return to base in 4 weeks as Born Again Hards!
Title: Re: Your pet peevees about records
Post by: david lloyd jones on November 17, 2016, 08:06:36 PM
paraphrasing Henry Rollins in this day and age s like paraphrasing sergeant pepper it is all fucked in all departments