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GENERAL SOUND DISCUSSION => GENERAL SOUND DISCUSSION => Topic started by: Deadpriest on May 21, 2018, 11:00:05 PM

Title: Favourite Prurient release?
Post by: Deadpriest on May 21, 2018, 11:00:05 PM
Mine would be Troubled Sleep...
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Post by: DSOL on May 21, 2018, 11:22:17 PM
Cocaine Death
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Post by: SiClark on May 21, 2018, 11:42:44 PM
Pleasure Ground and Black Vase are two of my favourite albums that I listen to the most.
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Post by: Cauldhame on May 22, 2018, 12:25:57 AM
"A History of Aids" all the way.
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Post by: Strangecross on May 22, 2018, 02:06:16 AM
African Division
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Post by: Eigen Bast on May 22, 2018, 04:40:17 PM
atypical, but I love Rose Pillar.
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Post by: Kayandah on May 22, 2018, 04:50:05 PM
Troubled Sleep, History of AIDS and Shipwreckers Diary are the ones I find myself returning to. Couldn't choose between them.
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Post by: DSOL on May 22, 2018, 04:59:57 PM
A History of Aids is right behind Cocaine Death for me
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Post by: Kayandah on May 22, 2018, 05:23:01 PM
Quote from: DSOL on May 22, 2018, 04:59:57 PM
A History of Aids is right behind Cocaine Death for me

See, i could never get on with Cocaine Death. I know a lot of people rate it but it does nothing for me
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Post by: ConcreteMascara on May 22, 2018, 05:30:01 PM
History of AIDS and Pleasure Ground probably had the biggest impact on me when I was first starting Concrete Mascara, in the sense that I wanted to make things sound like Pleasure Ground but they came out way closer to the blown-out, hyper aggressive insanity of History of AIDS. the track "Vertigo" from History of AIDS is my favorite Prurient track.

My other two favorites, which I honestly listen to the most often are The Baron's Chamber CD on Nihilist and the Time Began in a Garden 2xcassette. The Baron's Chamber is an extremely well executed mash-up of several live sets which basically combine the sounds and vibes of Troubled Sleep, Fossil and The History of AIDS into something dense and feverish. The repetitive bass-y synth ending that's like the last 7 minutes of the 30 minute track is just a giant fuck off while being ear candy at the same time.

As for Time Began in A Garden the combination of theme, packaging and sounds makes this the best of all mellower Prurient releases. and for my taste, some of the best short tracks Prurient has ever done. really just perfectly executed all the way around. can't help but listen and think that this one had to have a huge influence on all of the "romantic" and mellow PE that's come out over the past 5 years.

But Prurient has many other great releases too! With a discography as big as his, not everything is a winner, and some just suck, but on the whole most things are pretty fucking good.
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Post by: DSOL on May 22, 2018, 05:36:11 PM
Quote from: Kayandah on May 22, 2018, 05:23:01 PM
Quote from: DSOL on May 22, 2018, 04:59:57 PM
A History of Aids is right behind Cocaine Death for me

See, i could never get on with Cocaine Death. I know a lot of people rate it but it does nothing for me

it took awhile for me to really appreciate the output
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Post by: a_2_g_2 on May 22, 2018, 06:41:53 PM
The Black Post Society was one of the first noise cds I ever bought, so it's one of my favorites. I'd like to say I love Rose Pillar, but I really only like one or two tracks. Cocaine Death, History of Aids, Black Vase, Fossil, Pleasure Ground are all great. Really love the high-pitched feedback PE style he sort of developed.
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Post by: Major Carew on May 22, 2018, 07:19:34 PM

Fossil.
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Post by: andy vomit on May 22, 2018, 08:06:36 PM
Pleasure Ground is unmatched in my book.
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Post by: NaturalOrthodoxy on May 22, 2018, 09:15:22 PM
Frozen Niagara Falls / Black Vase / Bermuda Drain / Arrowhead
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Post by: Frataxin on May 22, 2018, 09:28:09 PM
Colonialist Nature and Misanthropy
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Post by: Duncan on May 22, 2018, 09:37:58 PM
This thread reminds me that I'm insanely overdue a Prurient revisit.

History of AIDS
Cocaine Death
Arrowhead


probably more but I don't remember right now.

The great thing about this project was that things could really take a different turn from release to release.  I mean, sure, these albums are probably the nearest you can get to 'objective' faves in that they had higher runs, longer running lengths and thus seem more like proper albums and therefore stronger statements but conceptually and aesthetically some of smaller tapes and 7"s are so important and amazing as part of the project.  I love Whip Enthusiasts from the Bloodlust! series, for example, because it really encompasses that mucky, emotional synth style which - though present on Cocaine Death - works so completely differently in the form of a short, abstract blast on 7"

Prurient is still such an interesting case because you have such an enormous and varied though artistically consistent back catalogue right up until the point we started getting all that garbage EBM which basically (and only IMHO) completely destroyed the project.  You often get told that you're a narrow minded, noise conservative and don't like it just because it has beats, or that you miss the point of how varied Prurient has always been when criticising the later output.....but I will never buy into the idea that all the more recent stuff was anything more than a shittily executed tragedy of poor judgement. YET EVEN SO Prurient before all that shit still remains such a vital and exemplary instance of a true noise artist that still bares many years of listening and exploration.
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Post by: impulse manslaughter on May 22, 2018, 11:43:10 PM
And still, wanting
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Post by: PedestrianOrgans on May 22, 2018, 11:59:49 PM
I'm glad nobody's mentioned Dracula Syndrome yet so now I seem cool

But for real, nobody talks about this release and it's some of Dom's best stuff imo
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Post by: ricjaff on May 23, 2018, 01:32:25 AM
not my favorite overall (which would be pleasure ground), but i'm surprised no one seems to dig "through the window" very much for his EBM-style
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Post by: PTM Jim on May 23, 2018, 07:42:33 AM
In order:
White Plains Leather : Black River Falls
Great tape cut-up and vocals. Will always be hard to top for me. One of the weirdest packages in his discography on the special edition as well.

The Golden Chamber
Heavy ambient industrial at its finest. Romantic period orchestral music I feel has always been present in his work and this tape makes it obvious with the small passage sampling of Dvorak's New World Symphony looped throughout "... Dying From The Wound." Love the booklet that comes with as well

Colonialist Nature And Misanthropy
Heaviest of all releases. Listening loud as possible on a huge PA is recommended. The bass pulsation is crushing.
Art and packaging is fantastic.

Lily Of The Valley / Return Of Happiness
Restrained, distant power electronics. "I Have A Message For You" is one of my all time favorite single tracks in his discography. Great package and cover art.

Worm In The Apple
Best of all the 7"s. Primitive perfection.

I'm surprised no one has mentioned the artwork on anything yet. It is half the battle with Prurient after all.
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Post by: Soloman Tump on May 23, 2018, 07:29:57 PM
I have never heard "The History of AIDS" until just now (thanks Youtube), and I have instantly connected to the sound palette.  Think I need this one.
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Post by: ekastaka on May 24, 2018, 08:47:22 AM
The ones I spend the most time with are Oxidation, Annihilationist, and Palm Tree Corpse. I like Cocaine Death just as much as those, but I suppose its not a "proper" album.
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Post by: NaturalOrthodoxy on May 24, 2018, 02:28:50 PM
Quote from: Duncan on May 22, 2018, 09:37:58 PM
all that garbage EBM which basically (and only IMHO) completely destroyed the project

I feel that I might also have this point of view if it wasn't for the fact that Greenpoint from Frozen Niagara Falls was the first Prurient track I heard.  As a young gun I came late to PE with Prurient being one of the gateway artists for me so this style of track with harsh elements intertwined with melody and rhythm shaped how I look at the genre (and is probably why I love the detailed/composed sound of newer Grunt stuff, Puce Mary, Con-Dom's 8th Pillar, etc). That said, it certainly wasn't long for me before discovering Arrowhead and falling in love with the absolute sonic violence of his purely feedback-based work.

I can see why an artist so relevant and diverse within the realm of harsh noise/PE would seem to have lost their touch when branching out into essentially synthpop in the eyes of a longtime follower.
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Post by: impulse manslaughter on May 24, 2018, 10:34:28 PM
Just played the collaboration with Sutcliffe Jugend. Obviously not the best material of both artists but still a nice mixture of their styles.
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Post by: Duncan on May 24, 2018, 10:42:13 PM
Quote from: NaturalOrthodoxy on May 24, 2018, 02:28:50 PM
Quote from: Duncan on May 22, 2018, 09:37:58 PM
all that garbage EBM which basically (and only IMHO) completely destroyed the project

I feel that I might also have this point of view if it wasn't for the fact that Greenpoint from Frozen Niagara Falls was the first Prurient track I heard.  As a young gun I came late to PE with Prurient being one of the gateway artists for me so this style of track with harsh elements intertwined with melody and rhythm shaped how I look at the genre (and is probably why I love the detailed/composed sound of newer Grunt stuff, Puce Mary, Con-Dom's 8th Pillar, etc). That said, it certainly wasn't long for me before discovering Arrowhead and falling in love with the absolute sonic violence of his purely feedback-based work.

I can see why an artist so relevant and diverse within the realm of harsh noise/PE would seem to have lost their touch when branching out into essentially synthpop in the eyes of a longtime follower.


Well everyone has their starting points, it's fair enough. Has got me thinking about whether or not I'd feel the way I do was I not into a different style of Prurient beforehand.  The honest truth is that I possibly wouldn't so I admit to having a biased, loaded take on things but even so I remember my main issue with Bermuda Drain being with how poorly executed it all seemed more than the stylistic change.  You know when you hear something an artist does and you can tell how much of a product it is of wanting to do certain musical things rather than how necessary it might be to do so? It seemed like for the first time ever that this enigmatic and complicated project had a really telling, naive thought process hanging over it which is why I say it got ruined for me.  Of course I don't mind what anyone likes or dislikes in his catalogue mind you, it's all about ones own take on it.
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Post by: andy vomit on May 24, 2018, 11:35:24 PM
Quote from: PTM Jim on May 23, 2018, 07:42:33 AM
Worm In The Apple
Best of all the 7"s. Primitive perfection.

100% agreed.
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Post by: impulse manslaughter on May 25, 2018, 12:17:04 AM
I think i have all the Prurient 7"s. From what i remember i like them all except Crossbow on Dotdotdot. Women Pissing w/ The Rita is my favorite collab.
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Post by: absurdexposition on May 25, 2018, 01:00:55 AM
Quote from: impulse manslaughter on May 25, 2018, 12:17:04 AM
Women Pissing w/ The Rita is my favorite collab.

Ditto. Total ripper.
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Post by: PTM Jim on May 25, 2018, 01:24:17 AM
Quote from: impulse manslaughter on May 25, 2018, 12:17:04 AM
Women Pissing w/ The Rita is my favorite collab.
Proud to have that one on Fusty. That is my 2nd favorite 7" after Worm In The Apple.
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Post by: totalblack on May 25, 2018, 01:37:56 PM
Quote from: absurdexposition on May 25, 2018, 01:00:55 AM
Quote from: impulse manslaughter on May 25, 2018, 12:17:04 AM
Women Pissing w/ The Rita is my favorite collab.

Ditto. Total ripper.

Of course, incredible collab record.

I don't know if there's really much that I haven't been able to get into from this project, aside from "Bermuda Drain" and the surrounding releases. First ones I owned were "Black Vase" and the "Church Of Ammunition" 7". Obviously "History Of Aids", and "Pleasure Ground" are both great although I really feel like I overplayed Pleasure Ground to the point that I don't know if I will need to play it ever again, really.

"Frozen Niagra Falls" has some tracks on it that are good, but it could benefit from being condensed. The new one I've played only once and it works conceptually, but I haven't felt like going back to it yet. The Zaetraom tape is great as well, although sounds a lot different from most of his other works but in a good way. One thing that I will also say is the material on the "BDSM Atlantic Partnership" LP is top notch, and I hope to hear more stuff like this in the near future.
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Post by: Zeno Marx on May 28, 2018, 11:41:40 PM
Someone recorded, and is now sharing, the Oslo show from May 18th on the Dime a Dozen tracker.

*sorry, but I'm not converting it to MP3 and uploading it to a host.
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Post by: totalabuse on May 29, 2018, 10:14:51 AM
Black Vase, Cocaine Death, Black Post Society, Bermuda Drain
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Post by: Peterson on May 29, 2018, 08:07:32 PM
I like the simplicity of Point & Void a lot. Surprised nobody's mentioned it.
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Post by: xdementia on May 31, 2018, 11:39:40 AM
Quote from: PTM Jim on May 25, 2018, 01:24:17 AM
Quote from: impulse manslaughter on May 25, 2018, 12:17:04 AM
Women Pissing w/ The Rita is my favorite collab.
Proud to have that one on Fusty. That is my 2nd favorite 7" after Worm In The Apple.

I prefer Sutcliffe Jugend/Prurient - The End of Autumn
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Post by: collapsedhole on May 31, 2018, 03:55:39 PM
while 'women pissing' epitomizes a perfect noise 7", personal favorite collaborative work would be the 'snail on a razor' collab cd w/ Hototogisu... love the long droning distant sound of that album, the ferocity of the noise takes on a trance-like quality with the blunted nature of the recording. on the flip side of the sound spectrum i return to the collab CD with Richard Ramirez + Flatline Construct more than any of his other cut-up focused stuff. wish the 'sick silent summer slum' collab tape with Sickness was longer - had a great thing going there.

'fossil' immediately comes to mind as my favorite album though that is kinda like a collaboration as well with all the vocal + sound contribution from j.vibg/viodre & jeff plummer/immaculate:grotesque. other favorite releases would be 'oxidation', 'sexual magic', 'time began in a garden', and the track on the new engand 5-lp box on RRR has gotta be one of my top favorite stand-alone tracks. once the arpeggiated electro sounds started working its way into the project he lost me.
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Post by: DSOL on May 31, 2018, 05:10:27 PM
Hospital Productions just put up some Prurient shirts for anyone interested
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Post by: eyestrain on June 11, 2018, 08:12:09 PM
Worthy of a mention might be "Outside The World". Always enjoyed the brooding nature of this release. And was the first I had heard of him going this route. B-side is still one of my favorite Prurient tracks ever.
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Post by: PedestrianOrgans on June 12, 2018, 07:07:58 PM
Ok I'm bringing up "Dracula Syndrome" again because it's a solid 70+ minutes and some of my favorite Dom harsh cut-up and it is criminally underrepresented here lol
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Post by: DSOL on June 12, 2018, 07:35:33 PM
Quote from: PedestrianOrgans on June 12, 2018, 07:07:58 PM
Ok I'm bringing up "Dracula Syndrome" again because it's a solid 70+ minutes and some of my favorite Dom harsh cut-up and it is criminally underrepresented here lol

because of his vast catalog, I finally checked this one out based on this thread. based upon my 1st couple of listens I would say this has moved into a top 3 Prurient releases for me
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Post by: SiClark on June 12, 2018, 08:21:27 PM
I've been meaning to buy this release for ages, will have to purchase soon.
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Post by: collapsedhole on June 12, 2018, 10:00:42 PM
yeah if i had to pick a solo cut-up style work fav it would definitely be 'dracula syndrome' but the collab with RR+FC seems to nail that best for me.
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Post by: Aether on August 14, 2018, 11:38:51 PM
Maybe I won't sound like a true noise fan for this, but my favorites are Frozen Niagara Falls, Bermuda Drain and Through the Window. As far as an underrated one that hasn't been mentioned here yet, Adam Tied to Stone is amazing.