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GENERAL VISUAL ART / LITERATURE DISCUSSION => GENERAL VISUAL ART / LITERATURE DISCUSSION => Topic started by: FreakAnimalFinland on January 02, 2010, 11:55:25 AM

Title: morbid art sculpture & dolls. Original / books of it
Post by: FreakAnimalFinland on January 02, 2010, 11:55:25 AM
Another stupid topic name. Can't just say "dolls", since people will associate with them automatically with children/girl toys.
No, we are not talking about toys, but pieces of art. Hand crafted sculptures/dolls, and the photographic art made based on them.
Lets use some examples first.

(http://pygmalion.mda.or.jp/yosida/img/yosida8.jpg)

(http://www.emd.pl/muzyka/z/zorn_john/jzch_2.jpg)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_mLJFj_fbUbw/Sxv2Ec-AUNI/AAAAAAAAAaY/3iGbcXYzeHI/s400/Igeta+Hiroko+pileup.com.jpg)

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_mvmKuNyyG_g/SeCHzsdp6AI/AAAAAAAAATo/XgLcT5bXqzo/s400/koitsukihime6.jpg)

(http://dolly.vivian.jp/gsn_doll/ins/img/kn-04.jpg)

(http://www.eyedia.com/gallery/doll/images/etsuko02.jpg)

and so on.

All the "major" artists seems to have very unique style of crafting them. Be it Ryo Yoshida, Etsuko Miura, Mahoko Akiyama, Amano Katan etc. and when you buy their art books, their approach to ball-jointed doll is very diverse. Facial expression, shapes, etc. Some do very vivid and realistic, others go for morbid and obscure looks. Some go for malformations and grotesque, some for simply aim for utmost innocense and beauty.

Editions Treville is good publisher to look into. Big full color books where it's not just about exhibiting dolls, but they are part of bigger thing, where professional photography, best lights, set ups etc. all play role.

When you see these things in real life (was lucky to be guided into small basement exhibition somewhere in Tokyo), it's really nice. You don't often realise how big some of these are. Almost like real size, hand crafted from clay. It's not a plastic factory toys. It's really a sculpture, which you can simply place on different poses due ball-joint technic.

Many of the artists seem to have strange fascination on western looking little girls. And perhaps even more to Alice themed works. One can't underestimate the influenced of Lewis Carroll's tale on culture. Him, and his photography, riddles and storytelling in all it's bizarre nature would be worth of topic of it's own. Nevertheless, these doll making japanese artists often have very Alice like themes. For example Amano Katan's work, there often appears very morbid and sinister looking rabbit head. It looks simply devilish. Often placed near by the actual doll target, standing in suit & tie like human, or simply the rabbit face somewhere. The level of abnormal surrealism is something, that perhaps can't be captured with human targets. These sculpures are used as models to create highly bizarre works. I may take look on selected book on the field later on.
Title: Re: morbid art sculpture & dolls. Original / books of it
Post by: LR on January 02, 2010, 12:30:38 PM
who made the first picture in the top ?  very tasty!
Title: Re: morbid art sculpture & dolls. Original / books of it
Post by: FreakAnimalFinland on January 02, 2010, 01:56:13 PM
I think the doll is by Ryo Yoshida, but I don't know who is the photographer.
Most often, at least on my experience, all these books are 1 doll maker & 1 photographer -style team work. I don't know does doll maker take part in settings and other ideas.


For less artistic and more just bizarre, is the magazine "i-doloid". I have 3 issues of it. B5, full color, around 150 pages each I think. It's all about sex dolls. Some small figures just for decoration. Other action dolls. They publish sets of "real doll" type child dolls being molested with doldo's, collectable figures, teenage maid dolls, guides & tools for making them, links to shops, also photographic art with them. So anything from "pornography", to nerdy figure collecting. But all about sex dolls. Only in Japan. I would recommend to buy any issue you happen to come across, even if it doesn't really fall into category what I meant this topic to be...
Title: Re: morbid art sculpture & dolls. Original / books of it
Post by: Andrew McIntosh on January 02, 2010, 02:08:52 PM
Has to be done -

(http://voidmanufacturing.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/hans-bellmer.jpg)
(http://photographyhistory.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/hans_bellmer_la_poupee_1935sized.jpg)
(http://www.thenewyorkoptimist.com/images/BellPou2.jpg)
(http://www.undergroundvoices.com/HansBellmer.jpg)

Title: Re: morbid art sculpture & dolls. Original / books of it
Post by: FreakAnimalFinland on January 02, 2010, 02:13:39 PM
There are shops in Japan selling photo-print style of postcards, most likely very small editions made by artists for specialist shops. Bought lots of those cards, and many of them framed on my walls looking like original photos.
When visiting Modern Music shop (of PSF label), they had original photos scattered around the shop, I asked why they were there, and seems like some female artists of PSF is also doll maker. You were browsing piles of LP's and suddenly stack of photos would be in middle, thrown in like garbage. Those dolls were more primitive ones. Not like the ones made by some of these professionals who have spent their lifetime to practise skills.

Title: Re: morbid art sculpture & dolls. Original / books of it
Post by: Strömkarlen on January 02, 2010, 03:56:32 PM
Although quite goth in appearance I think Joachim Luetkes Posthuman is worth a mention. Austrian guy that sculptures with doll heads and chicken pawn and still make them look almost saintly.

(http://www.luetke.com/sources/images/sculptures/dark_karma/sculpt_karma.jpg)

http://www.luetke.com/
Title: Re: morbid art sculpture & dolls. Original / books of it
Post by: Strömkarlen on January 02, 2010, 05:36:52 PM
I guess you all know about Körperwelten. http://www.bodyworlds.com/en.html

More of a Wunderkammer than art in my opinion.

(http://www.berlinreport.com/1004/00/yi/9-koer/4chess-f.jpg)

An Anatomical Opus by Dr. Gunther von Hagens.

Inspired by the latest advances in neuroscience, cardiology, biology, genetics, gerontology, psychiatry, and physiology.

Developed in cooperation with specialists across disciplines including the humanities and arts.

"We want to present to the public a comprehensive, multidisciplinary view of the various systems of the body," Dr. von Hagens said. "The Human Saga will show the workings of the brain, the heart, and other findings and phenomena about the human body," Dr. Whalley, Director of the Institute for Plastination in Heidelberg.

BODY WORLDS & The Mirror of Time is the third and latest instalment of the groundbreaking anatomical exhibitions by trailblazing scientist, Dr. Gunther von Hagens, and will feature a special presentation on the human life cycle and ageing. The exhibit shows the complexity, resilience, and vulnerability of the human body through anatomical studies of the body in distress, disease, and optimal health.
Visitors to The Mirror of Time will witness the arc of ageing-the body living through time from the spark of conception to old age refracted through the latest findings in longevity and ageing science. "The older I get, the more I realize that death is normal and that it is life that is exceptional," said Dr. von Hagens. "I hope this exhibition will encourage people to strive to live with inspiration every day throughout their lives."

BODY WORLDS & The Brain - Our Three Pound Gem features the latest neuroscience findings on brain development and function; brain disease and disorders; and brain performance and improvement In keeping with his mission of educating lay people, Dr. Gunther von Hagens and his wife, Dr. Angelina Whalley, have created a holistic meditation on the brain that merges anatomy, neuroscience, and philosophy that resonates with everyone. "The brain is an incredible marvel of engineering. I wanted people to recognize what is known about this amazing gem inside our heads, and be awed by its possibilities and capacities," said Dr. von Hagens. "We wanted to present this most complex organ in a way that was accessible to the general public, and in the most elegant way," said Dr. Whalley, a physician who planned the BODY WORLDS exhibitions that have been seen so far by more than 29 million people worldwide.

BODY WORLDS & The Story of the Heart is organized according to the major systems of the body. This includes: the locomotive system, nervous system, reproductive system, digestive system and cardiovascular system. The exhibit also features a special presentation on the heart, revealing through the lens of anatomy, cardiology, psychology and culture how this four-chambered muscle nourishes, regulates and sustains life. Through the life-like and dramatic poses of full-body specimens and detailed presentation of organs and body parts, guests gain profound insights into the structure and function of healthy and unhealthy bodies.
Title: Re: morbid art sculpture & dolls. Original / books of it
Post by: LR on January 03, 2010, 11:20:44 PM
i think Paul McCarthy is worthy of a mention aswell, although i am not sure he really fits in to category
he had a big show in city of aarhus in denmark a few years back, very entertaining stuff. 
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_x_awAKkZ1o0/SrJWI1MnvbI/AAAAAAAAIn0/e2KIDWO9qAg/%5BUNSET%5D.jpg)
(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1090/565486732_22c2219a01.jpg)
(http://greg.org/archive/koons_michael_bubbles.jpg)
(http://www.freefoto.com/images/31/30/31_30_65---Blockhead-2003-by-Paul-McCarthy--Tate-Modern--London--England_web.jpg?&amp%3Bk=Blockhead+2003+by+Paul+McCarthy%2C+Tate+Modern%2C+London%2C+England)
(http://aros.ziteman.com/archive/BilledeArkiv/BOERN_OG_UNGE/Saerudstillinger%E2%80%8E%20Boern%20og%20unge/Paul%20McCarthy_Head%20Shop%20Shop%20Head/McCarthy_The-garden.gif)
Title: Re: morbid art sculpture & dolls. Original / books of it
Post by: tiny_tove on January 20, 2010, 11:36:46 PM
Quote from: Strömkarlen on January 02, 2010, 05:36:52 PM
I guess you all know about Körperwelten. http://www.bodyworlds.com/en.html


I have seen two exhibs, got all videos available and I am still amazed. I am trying to go and see the latest one in Zurich, where there should be two corpses fucking.
I must admit that Von Hagen's work is more interesting and fascinating than disturbing, which is fine by me.


anyway, Timeless is selling Shintaro Kago's action figures:

(http://www.timeless-shop.com/im/articles/Matasaki2.jpg)

(http://www.timeless-shop.com/im/articles/shintarokago2_2.jpg)

(http://www.timeless-shop.com/im/articles/shintarokago1_2.jpg)



http://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=bsp&ver=1qygpcgurkovy

Title: Re: morbid art sculpture & dolls. Original / books of it
Post by: FreakAnimalFinland on January 21, 2010, 11:03:33 AM
Kago's comics are utmost bizarre. I have few of those. All I've seen in blogs I've been forwarded, are nowhere close to genious level of the books I have. No idea what they are about, but it's just visual cascade of sickening bizarro world.
His figures are more of clumsy and amusing, than rough. Last time I was in Japan, I did get some "collectibles" like little lolita figures from 500Jpy wending machines and anatomy study human body parts from 200Jpy wending machines.
I don't consider these "sculptures", more like pop art plastic toys.
Title: Re: morbid art sculpture & dolls. Original / books of it
Post by: Plague Haus on February 02, 2010, 12:42:33 AM
No idea where I saw these but I remember downloading the pics several years ago:

(http://www.plaguehaus.com/img/scatdoll.jpg)

(http://www.plaguehaus.com/img/scatdoll2.jpg)

(http://www.plaguehaus.com/img/scatdoll4.jpg)
Title: Re: morbid art sculpture & dolls. Original / books of it
Post by: FreakAnimalFinland on June 24, 2010, 09:33:41 PM
ANATOMIA BAROCCA

QuoteAnatomia Barocca is a gorgeous collection of stunning color photos of very old wax anatomical models from the Museo Zoologico "La Specola" in Florence.

(http://img03.shop-pro.jp/PA01003/402/product/248882.jpg)

(http://img03.shop-pro.jp/PA01003/402/product/248882_o2.jpg)

I think the Taschen book about this is quite similar. But when you compare the price and presentation, surely this Pan Exotica/Editions Treville has certain elegance what Taschen cheapo icons book series thing doesn't.
It also has decent introduction of the topic, it has introduction to how the proceeded making the photographs (museum didn't allow any studio lights, sunlight or such used! Due fragility of was sculptures). They are amazing detailed, sharp,... and grotesque!
In the text it tells about the cut open female figure bringing lustful emotions for people of the time. Rarely you could see close-up of female anatomy. And perhaps didn't bother that she was cut open and all the intestine bursting out.
At the same time there is life-like detail and obsessively accurate replicas of blood vessels and nerve systems, but also certain charming eerie atmosphere of lifelessness. It is just statues. Or models. Often posing as living, yet being like hellish nightmare.
Recommended!

In USA one can find these from Last Gasp for example, but to go to the source will be cheaper.
Title: Re: morbid art sculpture & dolls. Original / books of it
Post by: yog on June 25, 2010, 01:39:17 PM
Comic LO small gashapon figures

(http://static.hlj.com/images/tpn/tpnno-043.jpg)
Title: Re: morbid art sculpture & dolls. Original / books of it
Post by: ConcreteMascara on June 25, 2010, 04:21:50 PM
I want to know what that secret one is...
Title: Re: morbid art sculpture & dolls. Original / books of it
Post by: Unheard on June 25, 2010, 04:42:47 PM
Tari  Nakagawa

(http://blog-imgs-27-origin.fc2.com/k/o/s/kostnice/20081129002635.jpg)

(http://blog-imgs-27-origin.fc2.com/k/o/s/kostnice/IMGP3206.jpg)
Title: Re: morbid art sculpture & dolls. Original / books of it
Post by: Unheard on June 25, 2010, 04:49:03 PM
worth to be also mentioned the collaboration between the doll artist Koitsukihime and the photographer Hiroshi Nonami, which led to a postcards set named "Misericordia"

(http://garlic-doll.tumblr.com/photo/1280/614343330/1/tumblr_l2ej4uCLlz1qzhcj3)
Title: Re: morbid art sculpture & dolls. Original / books of it
Post by: FreakAnimalFinland on June 25, 2010, 05:36:19 PM
I have these on book and postcards.
There seems to be endless amount of good books of this type. Most recent reading:

ASTRAL DOLL by Ryo Yoshida. Less life-life compared to Koitsukihime. Pale and sinister looking lifeless girls.

ALICE IN THE TWINS WORLD by Mari Shimizu. Perhaps even more eerie. Nice small A5 size hardcover with hole in front so you see the first page faces. Style of doll is perhaps something between Yoshida and Koitsuhikime, but with own characteristics, such as oversizer strong eyes. Seems like focus on eyes, which are wide open and that tend to always look straight forward. Often made to look wet, and also faded in color. Very light blue, like eyes of old persons corpse. And needless to remind, the Alice theme. Found this one for 4$ in 2nd hand bookstore focused on japanese pop culture singers, in pile of junior idol dvd's.
Title: Re: morbid art sculpture & dolls. Original / books of it
Post by: Unheard on June 25, 2010, 07:24:56 PM
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on June 25, 2010, 05:36:19 PM
I have these on book and postcards.
There seems to be endless amount of good books of this type. Most recent reading:

ASTRAL DOLL by Ryo Yoshida. Less life-life compared to Koitsukihime. Pale and sinister looking lifeless girls.

ALICE IN THE TWINS WORLD by Mari Shimizu. Perhaps even more eerie. Nice small A5 size hardcover with hole in front so you see the first page faces. Style of doll is perhaps something between Yoshida and Koitsuhikime, but with own characteristics, such as oversizer strong eyes. Seems like focus on eyes, which are wide open and that tend to always look straight forward. Often made to look wet, and also faded in color. Very light blue, like eyes of old persons corpse. And needless to remind, the Alice theme. Found this one for 4$ in 2nd hand bookstore focused on japanese pop culture singers, in pile of junior idol dvd's.

Mari Shimizu did some excellent work for the mentioned Too Negative (and Ultra Negative) mag
Title: Re: morbid art sculpture & dolls. Original / books of it
Post by: RG on June 27, 2010, 11:48:15 AM
Quote from: LR on January 03, 2010, 11:20:44 PM
(http://greg.org/archive/koons_michael_bubbles.jpg)

That is by Jeff Koons, not Paul McCarthy.

Title: Re: morbid art sculpture & dolls. Original / books of it
Post by: Scale on July 05, 2010, 04:18:55 AM
Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on January 02, 2010, 02:08:52 PM
Has to be done -

(http://voidmanufacturing.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/hans-bellmer.jpg)
(http://photographyhistory.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/hans_bellmer_la_poupee_1935sized.jpg)
(http://www.thenewyorkoptimist.com/images/BellPou2.jpg)
(http://www.undergroundvoices.com/HansBellmer.jpg)



Yes. Bellmer is the Ur artist here. Fascinating stuff.

I always thought The Chapman Brothers owed a huge amount to him.

Title: Re: morbid art sculpture & dolls. Original / books of it
Post by: A.R.GH on July 27, 2010, 08:31:30 PM
Not 100% sure if it fits this topic, but Ron Mueck's hyperrealist sculptures comes to my mind. I came across his art some months ago, when I borrowed the book Art Now! Vol. 2(Taschen)... his work blew my mind

(http://www.tremendotaller.cl/vico/archivos/2008/08/1144912_mu7.jpg)

sculpture of his dead father ("Dead Dad")

(http://www.artnet.com/Magazine/features/cohen/Images/cohen97-10-24-12.jpg)

(http://www.saatchi-gallery.co.uk/blogon/upload/2009/07/deaddad.jpg)


Title: Re: morbid art sculpture & dolls. Original / books of it
Post by: Voûte on July 29, 2010, 03:27:01 AM
I've seen a Mueck exhibition few years ago. It was fascinating. The bodies/sculpture are very well done, nearly alive. The way he play with the proportions are a big part of the effect of surprise felt by the visitors.
(http://www.nickomargolies.com/big/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/Ron-Muecks-Big-Man.jpg)
(http://www.amyreaddesigns.com:/mablog/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/mueck2.jpg)
(http://www.egodesign.ca/_files/articles/blocks/6598_ron_mueck_oldwoman_vieille_femme_au_lit_2000.jpg)

The sculpture on the last picture is particularly disturbing if you have already experienced the close presence of a dying member of your family.
Title: Re: morbid art sculpture & dolls. Original / books of it
Post by: Niko on October 11, 2010, 03:47:51 PM
(http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/4978/97614966.jpg)
Title: Re: morbid art sculpture & dolls. Original / books of it
Post by: Voûte on June 06, 2011, 11:15:15 PM
There's an artist i appreciate a lot: Ludovic Levasseur and his wonderful flesh dolls.

(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/95/222107471_ef84b67ac7.jpg)
(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1329/1448968443_5f075f4abb.jpg)
(http://randomindex.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/ludovic-levasseur-poupee-3.jpg)
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_maY3zQK3k2k/S5YQSCSqgMI/AAAAAAAABNg/P3E70vCoII8/s400/photo9.jpg)
(http://randomindex.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/ludovic-levasseur-poupee-4.jpg)
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_NiFFQuiS-AU/StS8y3VSqKI/AAAAAAAAAJY/kcyyXNKzYBs/s400/ludovic.jpg)
(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/137/345460984_f3dc1a5e18.jpg)

http://e-l-i-s-e.blogspot.com/2008/12/poupees-viandes-de-ludovic-levasseur.html (http://e-l-i-s-e.blogspot.com/2008/12/poupees-viandes-de-ludovic-levasseur.html)
Title: Re: morbid art sculpture & dolls. Original / books of it
Post by: icepick method on December 01, 2011, 02:17:17 AM
Just got Bellmer - The Doll in the mail, along with a signed copy of Etsuko Miura's The Doll Bride of Frankenstein and Yaso: Doll & Body. Great stuff. I'm very interested in doing something like this but instead of using porcelain balljoints and springs for articulation  i want to cast fx silicone over machined stopmotion armatures. That's really my only problem with these doll artists, the static nature of their creations. Some of the photographs look straight out of a Quay brothers film. As wonderfully disturbing as they are, the slightly jerky unsettling nature of stopmotion would make them even more so.

(http://i.imgur.com/tYGS0.jpg)
Title: Re: morbid art sculpture & dolls. Original / books of it
Post by: Mme Deficit on May 08, 2012, 07:19:39 AM
(http://thenonist.com/images/uploads/almadll1.jpg)

No discussion of morbid dolls would be complete without the Alma Mahler doll, basically an old-school Real Doll. In 1918, artist Oskar Kokoschka was so obsessed with ex-lover Alma Mahler that he ordered a life-sized doll fashioned in her image. The results were less than satisfactory (as you can see above). After a few years, Kokoschka "gave a big champagne Party with chamber music, during which my maid Hulda exhibited the doll in all its beautiful clothes for the last time. When dawn broke - I was quite drunk, as was everyone else - I beheaded it out in the garden and broke a bottle of red wine over its head." (More information here: http://www.alma-mahler.at/engl/almas_life/puppet.html (http://www.alma-mahler.at/engl/almas_life/puppet.html))


(http://www.angelfire.com/magic/scotlass/images/vc3a.jpg)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/41/Tanzer_031.jpg/220px-Tanzer_031.jpg)

And there's also radiologist Carl Tanzler's pathetic attempt to preserve the corpse of a dead female patient whom he'd become infatuated with. He funded her mausoleum, which he visited constantly, and eventually just stole the corpse and attempted to patch all the rot together in doll form so he could sleep with it every night. He kept the body for seven years before being discovered. (More info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Tanzler (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Tanzler))
Title: Re: morbid art sculpture & dolls. Original / books of it
Post by: tiny_tove on November 12, 2012, 10:01:44 AM
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4639080/Doll-designed-to-look-just-like-ill-premature-baby-causes-outrage.html
Title: Re: morbid art sculpture & dolls. Original / books of it
Post by: tiny_tove on November 22, 2012, 12:23:41 PM
Cabbage patch hospital

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/woman/4658497/Cabbage-Patch-Kids-hospital.html
Title: Re: morbid art sculpture & dolls. Original / books of it
Post by: Human Larvae on November 22, 2012, 02:13:35 PM
Quote from: tiny_tove on November 22, 2012, 12:23:41 PM
Cabbage patch hospital

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/woman/4658497/Cabbage-Patch-Kids-hospital.html

does anyone remember the garbage pail kids?

(http://www.gelaskins.com/images/artworkImages/max-800x800/941.jpg)
(http://www.retroland.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/garbage_pail_kids_650x300_a.jpg)

Think I even saw the movie when I was a kid. This should belong in the comic section, but since it was a parody of the cabage patch kids....
Title: Re: morbid art sculpture & dolls. Original / books of it
Post by: tiny_tove on November 22, 2012, 02:28:31 PM
My parents never wanted to buy these for me :( but they looked impressive.
do you know the title of the movie?

Title: Re: morbid art sculpture & dolls. Original / books of it
Post by: Human Larvae on November 22, 2012, 03:02:51 PM
Quote from: tiny_tove on November 22, 2012, 02:28:31 PM
My parents never wanted to buy these for me :( but they looked impressive.
do you know the title of the movie?



http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0093072/

and it looks like it really sucks, ha.

there is a stream on 1channel.ch
Title: Re: morbid art sculpture & dolls. Original / books of it
Post by: online prowler on March 04, 2013, 07:59:24 PM
The Empire of Death (2011)

by Paul Koudounaris.

(http://boingboing.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/DrPaul_Cover.jpg)

Highly recommend this book. Reasonable prices on amazon.

http://www.thamesandhudson.com/The_Empire_of_Death/9780500251782 (http://www.thamesandhudson.com/The_Empire_of_Death/9780500251782)
Title: Re: morbid art sculpture & dolls. Original / books of it
Post by: Vigilante Ecstasy on March 05, 2013, 01:43:19 AM
Maybe a little bit off-topic, but I think that Anatoly Moskvina deserves a honorable mention.

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/11/09/world/europe/russia-corpses
http://news.yahoo.com/police-russian-man-kept-29-mummified-bodies-153721134.html

He said he drank from puddles, spent nights in haystacks or at abandoned farms and once even slept in a coffin readied for a funeral. He said he was repeatedly questioned by police, who then always let him go.

Just last month, he wrote a piece for a publication on necrology to explain his interest in the dead. He said that when he was 12, he came across a funeral procession whose participants forced him to kiss the face of a dead 11-year-old girl.

"An adult pushed my face down to the waxy forehead of the girl in an embroidered cap, and there was nothing I could do but kiss her as ordered," Moskvin wrote in Nekrolog.

He said he later grew interested in the occult.
Title: Re: morbid art sculpture & dolls. Original / books of it
Post by: online prowler on March 05, 2013, 11:46:12 AM
Quote from: Vigilante Ecstasy on March 05, 2013, 01:43:19 AM
Maybe a little bit off-topic, but I think that Anatoly Moskvina deserves a honorable mention.

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/11/09/world/europe/russia-corpses
http://news.yahoo.com/police-russian-man-kept-29-mummified-bodies-153721134.html

He said he drank from puddles, spent nights in haystacks or at abandoned farms and once even slept in a coffin readied for a funeral. He said he was repeatedly questioned by police, who then always let him go.

Just last month, he wrote a piece for a publication on necrology to explain his interest in the dead. He said that when he was 12, he came across a funeral procession whose participants forced him to kiss the face of a dead 11-year-old girl.

"An adult pushed my face down to the waxy forehead of the girl in an embroidered cap, and there was nothing I could do but kiss her as ordered," Moskvin wrote in Nekrolog.

He said he later grew interested in the occult.


Anatoly Moskvina fits into the topic. Quite interesting case. Would there by any chance be possible to get hold of an English translation of the nekrolog you mention -or a scanning from the newspaper/publication?
Title: Re: morbid art sculpture & dolls. Original / books of it
Post by: tiny_tove on May 05, 2015, 10:58:43 PM
Thomas Edison's talking dolls
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/05/science/thomas-edison-talking-dolls-recordings.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&smid=tw-nytimesscience&_r=1
Title: Re: morbid art sculpture & dolls. Original / books of it
Post by: tiny_tove on May 27, 2015, 09:31:22 AM
very interestintg exhibition and catalogue

http://www.bourdelle.paris.fr/en/exhibition/mannequins-dartiste-mannequins-fetiches
Title: Re: morbid art sculpture & dolls. Original / books of it
Post by: tiny_tove on June 05, 2015, 02:53:05 PM
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/dead-creepy-synthetic-bodies-medical-5827855
Title: Re: morbid art sculpture & dolls. Original / books of it
Post by: tiny_tove on July 01, 2015, 09:54:54 AM
not creepy but funny

http://fontsinuse.com/uses/4279/gay-bob-doll-ad-come-out-of-the-closet-with-g
Title: Re: morbid art sculpture & dolls. Original / books of it
Post by: Andrew McIntosh on July 25, 2015, 03:43:40 AM
Fantastic (except for the bullshit editing).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoF6lvh3Rus (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoF6lvh3Rus)
Title: Re: morbid art sculpture & dolls. Original / books of it
Post by: tiny_tove on August 24, 2015, 10:58:03 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=19&v=E8umFV69fNg
Title: Re: morbid art sculpture & dolls. Original / books of it
Post by: martialgodmask on August 24, 2015, 02:51:13 PM
Quote from: online prowler on March 04, 2013, 07:59:24 PM
The Empire of Death (2011)

by Paul Koudounaris.

(http://boingboing.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/DrPaul_Cover.jpg)

Highly recommend this book. Reasonable prices on amazon.

http://www.thamesandhudson.com/The_Empire_of_Death/9780500251782 (http://www.thamesandhudson.com/The_Empire_of_Death/9780500251782)


Still need to pick this up, just had a look and is still available on Amazon for a good price as you say.

What's his Heavenly Bodies book like? Looks interesting, loosely similar subject:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Heavenly-Bodies-Treasures-Spectacular-Catacombs/dp/0500251959/ref=wl_mb_wl_huc_mrai_1_dp
Title: Re: morbid art sculpture & dolls. Original / books of it
Post by: tiny_tove on August 24, 2015, 03:42:43 PM
any book by Koudounaris is a must have!
especially at these prices...
Title: Re: morbid art sculpture & dolls. Original / books of it
Post by: martialgodmask on August 24, 2015, 04:29:33 PM
Quote from: tiny_tove on August 24, 2015, 03:42:43 PM
any book by Koudounaris is a must have!
especially at these prices...

Thanks, will look at grabbing both I think.
Title: Re: morbid art sculpture & dolls. Original / books of it
Post by: tiny_tove on August 24, 2015, 05:29:32 PM
I am waiting to get memento mori, his third book, more devoted to funeral rites
Title: Re: morbid art sculpture & dolls. Original / books of it
Post by: ANDROPHILIA on August 25, 2015, 12:11:16 AM
Quote from: tiny_tove on August 24, 2015, 05:29:32 PM
I am waiting to get memento mori, his third book, more devoted to funeral rites
related to this you can get the two books edited by BizzarroBazar
La veglia eterna
De profundis

http://bizzarrobazar.com/collana-bb/
Title: Re: morbid art sculpture & dolls. Original / books of it
Post by: tiny_tove on August 25, 2015, 08:58:30 AM
both excellent books. a third one is in the making, let's hope it is about the Cappuccini father's cemetery in Rome!
Title: Re: morbid art sculpture & dolls. Original / books of it
Post by: cr on September 06, 2015, 01:39:26 PM
Quote from: tiny_tove link=topic=93.msg49231#msg 49231 date=1440420163
any book by Koudounaris is a must have!
especially at these prices...

Thanks a lot for the recommendations! These are great books. Did you already get Memento Mori?
Title: Re: morbid art sculpture & dolls. Original / books of it
Post by: martialgodmask on September 27, 2015, 02:25:03 PM
I think this qualifies here....

http://dangerousminds.net/comments/knick-knacks_of_the_damned_infernal_ceramic_children
Title: Re: morbid art sculpture & dolls. Original / books of it
Post by: tiny_tove on October 29, 2015, 12:50:39 PM
http://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2015/oct/28/mark-hogancamp-marwencol-jon-ronson-miniature-town-horrors-of-war?CMP=fb_gu
Title: Re: morbid art sculpture & dolls. Original / books of it
Post by: martialgodmask on November 04, 2015, 11:30:17 PM
Quote from: tiny_tove on October 29, 2015, 12:50:39 PM
http://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2015/oct/28/mark-hogancamp-marwencol-jon-ronson-miniature-town-horrors-of-war?CMP=fb_gu

The Guardian with their finger on the pulse here.......

Regardless, it's a good doc and an interesting story!
Title: Re: morbid art sculpture & dolls. Original / books of it
Post by: tiny_tove on November 07, 2015, 07:33:52 PM


http://morbidanatomy.blogspot.it/2009/05/japanese-pregnancy-dolls-19th-century.html
Title: Re: morbid art sculpture & dolls. Original / books of it
Post by: tiny_tove on February 02, 2016, 06:16:23 PM
(http://dangerousminds.net/content/uploads/images/family2010qp9oufoasjdofjasldjfpaoijsfljasdflasdoipads.jpg)

(http://dangerousminds.net/content/uploads/images/mothsdrinktears2014pouefpaueofuildkjfalsjdf.jpg)

http://dangerousminds.net/comments/super_strange_sculptures_only_the_dark_and_demented_could_love
Title: Re: morbid art sculpture & dolls. Original / books of it
Post by: urall on February 03, 2016, 03:50:51 PM
Went to an exhibition of Berlinde De Bruyckere once, pretty impressive

(https://utopiaparkway.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/berlindedebruyckere_invisiblebeauty.jpg)
(http://storage.surfingbird.ru/l/14/7/18/14/r2_38.media.tumblr.com_tumblr_n8sxudGxGF1qaqz2jo5_1280_4a11fa1e.jpg)
(http://cloud.hauserwirth.com/documents/vn23cYv1qu2AW3Td41H83QeJCfaaW76Fo8UFoGR5VBAsN4lHAv/large/de-br41605_mb_hwl09view5-5ihhnE.jpg)
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-pTFeTB5ocO8/UTyNUOho3GI/AAAAAAAAAOs/S4g_jsB9eCw/s1600/Berlinde+De+Bruyckere.jpg)
Title: Re: morbid art sculpture & dolls. Original / books of it
Post by: tiny_tove on February 04, 2016, 12:34:19 AM
quality
Title: Re: morbid art sculpture & dolls. Original / books of it
Post by: oOoOoOo on February 24, 2016, 07:07:59 PM
It's fascinating that there's a thread about dolls on this forum, I find them strangely captivating too. I have reblogged a few of them onto my tumblr blog, this one is my favorite

(http://56.media.tumblr.com/fa00f6088d9f6a1c524f9772e7632ab4/tumblr_nwgups4Ds41qznnmeo1_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: morbid art sculpture & dolls. Original / books of it
Post by: tiny_tove on July 13, 2016, 09:40:40 AM
Not really morbid, but very nice: http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/07/11/dan-hurlin-recovers-futurist-puppet-shows?mbid=social_facebook
inspired by Depero's classic futurist puppet theater.
would love to see this in action.
Title: Re: morbid art sculpture & dolls. Original / books of it
Post by: tiny_tove on August 13, 2016, 12:26:51 AM
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/537455/Creepiest-clip-internet-weird-mother-monster-puppet-snuff-puppets-show
Title: Re: morbid art sculpture & dolls. Original / books of it
Post by: david lloyd jones on August 15, 2016, 07:04:51 PM
can recommend 'the anatomical venus' by Joanna Edelstein pub as hardback on Thames and Hudson.
similar in style and quality to their other books like memento mori etc, this covers the life-size wax models used in medicine to illustrate organs, nerves, pregnancy, venereal disease and other delights. even touches on more arty/fetishistic aspects of dolls such as real doll, Chapman bros dolls etc.
Title: Re: morbid art sculpture & dolls. Original / books of it
Post by: tiny_tove on August 15, 2016, 09:27:44 PM
On top of my current want-list.
I have seen live many of those venuses she talks about. Impressive models.
Title: Re: morbid art sculpture & dolls. Original / books of it
Post by: david lloyd jones on August 15, 2016, 09:38:38 PM
recall trying to see an exhibition in Rouen back in my topy days that was  part of my whatever, at the time. hope it is still there.