TRUE CRIME & RELATED

[tiny_tove]

Some guy is on Fox right now reading lyrics by Youngland, another of the shooter's past bands. End Apathy's myspace page looks like typical 'tough guy' hardcore, not white power. MSNBC will have a field day with this: gun control & racism. 2 for 1!

youngland, wow. that is definitely not an unknown band in the ranks

[tiny_tove]

south african murder/rape/boiling water

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2179171/Walkerville-family-murders-Horrific-death-boy-12-drowned-boiling-water-robbers-raped-mother.html

[Mikerdeath]

south african murder/rape/boiling water

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2179171/Walkerville-family-murders-Horrific-death-boy-12-drowned-boiling-water-robbers-raped-mother.html

"Women are raped and people are shot every day,'  'But the fact that a 12-year-old was killed is horrific. There will be shock.' Despite a recent improvement in crime statistics' "According to one report they [the killers] were led back to their cells smiling"

Saw this back in may 2011... seems like a good time to post.
"DR Congo: 48 rapes every hour, US study finds"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-13367277

[Ashley Choke]

Wisconsin Sikh temple gunman named as Wade Michael Page. Here is his old band's myspace -http://www.myspace.com/endapathyband - the lyrics to 'Self Destruct' are now sorta amusing.

Dude probably thought he was shooting Muslims, Christ the right is so stupid

[HONOR_IS_KING!]

Wisconsin Sikh temple gunman named as Wade Michael Page. Here is his old band's myspace -http://www.myspace.com/endapathyband - the lyrics to 'Self Destruct' are now sorta amusing.

Dude probably thought he was shooting Muslims, Christ the right is so stupid

Pretty much. It's what I was thinking.

Reminds me of the time while riding the bus in Chicago, where some Pollock kept bitching to the Sikh bus driver about how all of "them" were going back to Afghanistan.

I don't think I've laughed harder in public.

[bitewerksMTB]

They were brown so still half right. The left isn't much smarter: Occupiers protesting in Chicago against Rush Limbaugh who hasn't lived or worked in Chicago for years. Granted no one was killed but you get my point. Always Do Your Research First!

I've never heard of Youngland but I don't keep up with WP music anymore (since Tri-State Terror died). The name is familiar- is there  band called Youngblood?

Last night CNN talked to the Southern Poverty Law Center who claim to have been 'tracking' the shooter for 12 years after they found out he was in contact or ordered material from The National Alliance. How they 'track' a civilian, I have no idea. Shows they what they do, doesn't make a fuck of a difference. Is keeping track of hate groups the only thing the SPLC does?

[HongKongGoolagong]

Last night CNN talked to the Southern Poverty Law Center who claim to have been 'tracking' the shooter for 12 years after they found out he was in contact or ordered material from The National Alliance. How they 'track' a civilian, I have no idea.

So many far-right groups are thoroughly infiltrated and in some cases outright controlled by LE and intelligence agencies. I don't know how anyone could be so stupid as to think say, Stormfront is actually a 'white nationalist community' rather than an information-gathering project but these political cranks aren't known for their brightness. Same goes of course for the other side - Indymedia was almost entirely taken over by IP-logging cops some years ago in most territories.

Seems this big crybaby did it because his girlfriend threw him out and he couldn't handle his drink.

[bitewerksMTB]

I haven't heard anything about the shooter being involved with any specific group other than the white power heavy metal bands (The WP Music Industry brings in millions according to the SPLC person I saw on CNN).

Listening to the SPLC, it sounds like they're real-life detectives instead of  logging user names, what they post, etc. on forums. It would be funny if they were following people, taking surveillance photos, shaving their heads, getting 1488 tattoos, arranging bomb & machine gun sells...

[HONOR_IS_KING!]

They were brown so still half right

What on earth does this mean?

[tiny_tove]

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/07/us-usa-wisconsin-shooting-idUSBRE8740FP20120807

[tiny_tove]

Label 56 issue a statement:

"Label 56 is very sorry to hear about the tragedy in Wisconsin and our thoughts are with the families and friends of those who are affected. We have worked hard over the years to promote a positive image and have posted many articles encouraging people to take a positive path in life, to abstain from drugs, alcohol, and just general behavior that can affect ones life negatively.  Likewise we have never sought attention by using "shock value"/ symbols and ideology that are generally labeled as such. With that being said, all images and products related to End Apathy have been removed from our site. We do not wish to profit from this tragedy financially or with publicity.

In closing please do not take what Wade did as honorable or respectable and please do not think we are all like that.

Thank you, Label 56"

[Ashmonger]

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/07/us-usa-wisconsin-shooting-idUSBRE8740FP20120807

I found this sentence "In recent days, Page turned from his guitar to a gun." rather amusing.
What I think is interesting is that you see that over a long period of time he remained active with WP music, even with sometimes some years inbetween and then he goes to shooting people, whereas a lot of other WP bands (as far as I know, I'm not too much into this) seem to run only for a couple of years and then disappear and you'll never know whether they turned away from the ideas or just stopped making music. I think of Hate Society for example, whose album 'Sounds of Racial Hatred' I like a lot, really nice music and the lyrics always make me crack.

[bitewerksMTB]

They were brown so still half right

What on earth does this mean?

"If it ain't white, it ain't right" so getting the religion wrong is a moot point. If he thought they were Muslim which doesn't seem to be the case- I'm guessing he went for the brown skin.

Local paper has an article about hate rock & mentions he was in Intimidation One which is a band I am familiar with. Seems I had their cd or a comp they were on. I think they had the boring RAC sound.

[tiny_tove]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4498292/Suspects-hunted-over-rape-of-terrified-boy-in-shop-toilet.html

[tiny_tove]

more male rape

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2012/feb/21/us-more-men-raped-than-women